pvp-arena

[whole shell]

second one went to maiden and made her immune

killed rouge and biscuit, and cindy decoy shielded her from your own cindy nuke

[sleek root]

Mana S2 burst gen, how good is it? Where is she at in the chart?

[tropic summit]

think of her as an SBS

[limber rampart]

someone tell me that she is AR not good at burst gen just dont use her

[shell hazel]

not miles off need more power yet. Had to run Alice / RH / Cindy no Naga

[silver siren]

Hi guys, deck 1 or deck 2 is better? All fully build

[shell hazel]

this QTE 30 secs before the end wipes you out don't know if you can even break it 😄

[whole pawn]

@tropic summit @fathom rock @tight thistle oh look, he came from behind and almost cleared mc
it's over

it didn't even took 24 h

[tight thistle]

You need to kill before qte

[tropic summit]

make a new account and play nikke new game + ?

[tight thistle]

This one is pretty tanky + mc summons the shield back even if you break it

[shell hazel]

I need more power and it's done

[tropic summit]

Hippo maldin'

[shell hazel]

have been for a while lol

[tight thistle]

Investment diff

[shell hazel]

been at 30-40% deficit in campaign since like chapter 23 or so

[tropic summit]

both look good, my only observations:

• running high feed team + 2 water code B3 is not gonna end up well against scar-jack (that'd be the nero team)
• noise as the only B1 in p1 might be risky, can consider centi in p1 and noise in p5, noise will taunt p1 and p2 so centi will not have to tank too much anyway, even more so on a fast 2RL, ensure both are running at least SR5 doll and noise is on vigor

[shell hazel]

had to wait for MC to catch up you can't do it too early

[shell hazel]

honestly you learn so much the first time around this is what a lot of people do I think 😄

[raven plover]

the bottom one must be from ibuki channel, bro pretty much pvp only guy, expect noise, noah, rapun, nero, moran at sr15 dolls

[tropic summit]

well i speak from self experience, my first account was dropped because i had burned out, but also because i realized i didn't optimize enough and also had bad RNG early game

second account finding RH within 2 weeks was drastically different experience

[shell hazel]

cindy anni was such a good time to re-roll we had like 60 pulls on a starter account with a couple of codes - I started with 2 x Cindy + 1 x RH

was my first account haven't re-made any but it was a huge initial gain

[silver siren]

Noise is on temper cube and mlb 5, but opposite sg can still take down my noise if i put at p5 with same cp

[silver siren]

Yeah i tried nero moran can winstand scar jackal but without rh

[raven plover]

yea with thelm nero moran looks promising but Im waiting CA to see if its level sync or not. if its not, not gonna invest on nero

[fathom rock]

Has crown and more cp than you

[whole pawn]

not possible

[tropic summit]

opposite SG won't attack p5 when you defending, only on attack

[whole pawn]

🧱

[fathom rock]

Also more fps

[whole pawn]

🧱 🧱

[tropic summit]

Also better min/maxing rocks usage

[whole pawn]

I don't think that was relevant

[tropic summit]

your CP is related to the lack of rock investiment on PvP unit aswell

[whole pawn]

I don't I use my rocks, unless I ask retro for help
it's just that I didn't farm kraken earlier

[tropic summit]

3 lines even with useless stats are better CP than 1 or 2 lines

[silver siren]

If put noise at p5 then will be centi cindy Emilia thelm noise, then cindy p2 will feed enemy burst gen

[whole pawn]

mmmm maybe by the time I clear mc, I might have gotten crown

[tropic summit]

it's 1.25x extra burst gen, kinda hard to benefit from it on purpose

if you prefer the risk of single B1 in p1 than that, go ahead

[fathom rock]

Believe

[whole pawn]

my last chance is this rei banner

either rei comes with crown, or none comes

[tropic summit]

last chance? you going to quit?

[silver siren]

Thanks for the input, i will try and see how it goes

[fathom rock]

Last chance to get crown before 261

[tropic summit]

yeah no problem, lineups are good regardless, this is just nitpicking

[whole pawn]

give me the xmaiden scenario again and I might actually quit gacha games, might as well get rid of my other gachas

[tropic summit]

well but you're f2p right? 🤔

if you're not wasting money on gachas, you could just keep playing them, albeit casually

[whole pawn]

what's the point of being f2p or p2w it these games gives u headache and anger issues

[tropic summit]

oh i see now

[fathom rock]

Time to become casual gamer

[tropic summit]

it's your mindset that is wrong @whole pawn

don't take them SO seriously

at the end of the day, you can't control RNG

[whole pawn]

the only reason I kept playing gacha games is because I spent money, nikke is an exception because I liked it(even tho I didn't spend ), but still it gave more hard time

[whole pawn]

probably yes, I think I am the problem

[tropic summit]

hmm, well at the end of the day it is up to you, on a personal opinion:

-if you're doing something that just upsets/angers/bothers you, drop it, it's toxic
-if you're just taking it too personally/overthinking it, try taking a break and re-think your approach/mindset

maybe you just need to cool off

[silver siren]

Nero need 101010 only can shine, i tried 7 7 7 still can't tank

[tropic summit]

yeah that's one hell of an expensive unit, although she's probably one of the core late game units especially on late synchs

i think she probably starts shining the most past synch lvl 400

once nuke oriented lineups starts falling off due to scaling

[silver siren]

Anyhow mostly need to build her for champions arena though

[tropic summit]

oh ye, she could easily fit in top 5 teams of your lineup

enemy will have only 1 jackal and 1 scarlet to use

[fathom rock]

Champ arena is either next month like annouced or next century
Nero definitely worth for CA

[shell hazel]

I barely touched kraken to be fair

in the just under 4 months I've been playing I've probably farmed kraken for about a week tops

bridge too far still but some RNG is getting me closer...

level 242 all I need

[tropic summit]

ohhh very close

[shell hazel]

not easy ways to get power beyond levels though, I think I can just bump up gear xp a bit to help 😄

crown is on 7/7/7 though. I think her skill 1 might be a good target to bump up a bit

adds atk to whole team which here might be a few extra bars off that 50 at least

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit time to help fren

[umbral belfry]

@tropic summit #pvp-arena message whatcha think? might reply slow bc about to clock into work

[fathom rock]

A whale spawned in his bracket overnight

Other enemy teams
Just cook has everything but ros/moran/bay/mana/manchor

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[fathom rock]

Lets be real that scar comp is 400% 2rl

[tropic summit]

yeah it's realistic

[fathom rock]

Jackal eating a 10 star meal that she dies from obesity

[tropic summit]

might be even 1.8RL or lower

the issue is 17% CP deficit

that's gonna hurt a lot

[fathom rock]

Was yesterday 1.1m with alice padded

[tropic summit]

if he's allowed to use biscuit it might be easier

scarlet la xanne biscuit jackal

[fathom rock]

Sync diff also maing this insane

[tropic summit]

91 levels diff

[shell hazel]

[fathom rock]

Cook here then t2 90% not winnable

[shell hazel]

problem: whale 91 levels ++
prescription: 💳 💸

[tropic summit]

oh but he's not in deficit there at least 🤔

what's the 3rd team then?

[fathom rock]

He didnt even try lmao

[tropic summit]

yeah reasonable

[fathom rock]

1.3m at 572 is mad low anyway

[bleak latch]

getting rid of my jackal link is no problem i'll give them stunt instead

[shell hazel]

fun fact I did see in the api stuff from bla bla that cindy has these base stats at level 1000

            "level_hp": 27648172,
            "level_attack": 670257,
            "level_defence": 179818

[fathom rock]

Is that not against tos

[shell hazel]

it's in their api

[tropic summit]

the idea with rapunzel is on point tho

it's just the CP that is concerning

how about noise instead of rapu?

[shell hazel]

they have stats for all levels but they don't go beyond 1000

[bleak latch]

my 1.2m vs 1.1m it work because my rapu is at below30% at burst

[tropic summit]

995 vs 1169 is...

14,9% out of deficit

it's gonna be a bit weird because noise will taunt p1 and p2

but since it's poli and pepper it won't matter

no splash involved, looks doable

yolo? record it as i'm quite curious

[fathom rock]

Make him shoot the shot?

And we wait

[shell hazel]

poli is a weird choice to run in a def team...

[tropic summit]

man is a chad tho, fighting 91 lvls ahead

[tropic summit]

not as weird as it sounds, is tanky, gives partial dmg share, gives a shield, gives niche atk% buff

the downside is being a normal SG (not even clip)

[shell hazel]

maybe they'll treasure poli sometime

still want marciana first 😄

[tropic summit]

i used poli for a long time in my scar-jack team until i realized it was too bad for mirror scarlets

[fathom rock]

Lol nice

[tropic summit]

oh lemme c

oh i remember the point of that team, padded with extra 1 life for RRH to get lucky and get indommed, but it's a 7RL or so

you could put crown for the sake of CP instead of naga i suppose

[spiral onyx]

Nero is in a weird position for CA. Like she's usable with proper support, but she can be easily replaced with a new unit

Ludmilla had that same issue before

[fathom rock]

Next in line

[fathom rock]

Discord has humor too

[tropic summit]

he wants to hit that?

looks realisticly out of range haha

[fathom rock]

Emi comp 2rl?

[bleak latch]

with s.anis no

[tropic summit]

only if emi is on 21%CS

else it's a 3RL, albeit fast one

that one would be doable with 3RL scar-jack tho

emi will die regardless due to elem. weak, s.anis will die to counters

leaves them with bay noise and rumani in best case scenario, unable to B3

[fathom rock]

And scar comp looking 2rl

Sbs comp 2.5rl?

[tropic summit]

generally no... although at that synch with a decently invested PvP player, could be 2.5RL

[fathom rock]

Yeah he is doomed

[tropic summit]

i'd still think it is a 3RL

but ofc it would still be a gamble of sort

[tropic summit]

he took a break or is it just whales?

[fathom rock]

How about someone his size

[fathom rock]

Bro name a f2p at 524 sync or 571 sync lmao

[tropic summit]

oh these seem very doable

does he have helmT and most of pvp core units?

[fathom rock]

Btw i tried my gambit
Rrh shoots 10 bombs her burst
Ggs
We are so back

[fathom rock]

All built but ros/moran/manchor/bay

Im thinking 2rl cindy vs t2 and 2rl scar vs t3

[tropic summit]

yeah 2RL cindy is also fine for T1

[fathom rock]

Eaay enuff

[worthy zodiac]

Bro, me need intake for the pvp asuka wille

How her performance?

[fathom rock]

🚮

[worthy zodiac]

Ah shiet. Am I screwed, not even pvp help her

[fathom rock]

?

[spiral onyx]

Er, there's nothing in her kit that seems interesting for PvP unless I missed something?

[worthy zodiac]

I dunno, thats why im asking here. Im kinda invest on her on impulse

[spiral onyx]

She's top tier for wind PvE though

[worthy zodiac]

Dang it

[modest summit]

Are there any units which are recommended to go all in on because of pve and pvp overlap?

[spiral onyx]

Huge impact during UR and probably SR

[worthy zodiac]

Dunno about that. Im just ok with her on pve. Since it pve afterall

[spiral onyx]

Probably Red Hood. B1 buffer in PvP, Be DPS carry in PvE

Cinderella is a common PvP and PvE B3 pick as well

[worthy zodiac]

Like the og unit from nikke will eventually got tresaured unless they are have some niche like boosting element like og asukas

[spiral onyx]

Helm+ is also strong in both

But not a core unit

[tropic summit]

fully: RH, SBS, Cindy, HelmT, s.anis, blanc

partially: naga, liter, xmaiden, alice, scarlet, noir, anchor:IM, grave, crown

Fully: has meta spot
Partially: niche usage or padding

e.g.

-scarlet can be used for pve but there are better choices, while being one of the core picks for pvp
-naga, liter, alice, noir can be used as temporary options instead of others you may lack (be it buffing, padding or alternatives)
-anchor:IM could be invested for pve while also serving as a non feeding non clip RL B2 buffer

[umbral belfry]

gonna hafta wait then bc naga has more cp but ty!

[lunar pawn]

the dude's using his chips already

[modest summit]

Thank you as always Railtracer

[fathom rock]

Peak comedy @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

lmao, all that preparation and then game decides it's too late to let you play

maybe new opponent is actually weaker

[fathom rock]

You know the funny part?

Opponent lineup didnt change

Meaning only 1 thing could've possibly happened

[tropic summit]

these people are copying each others

[lunar pawn]

Helm wants quantum in pvp?

[strange linden]

how should I beat this? I tried the same teams but lose on the second one

[spiral onyx]

Not really. Quantum doesn't apply to her treasured burst gain effect

[tropic summit]

1st team 3RL scar-jack + indom
2nd team 2RL noah+biscuit+SBS
3rd team 2RL noah + DPS B3 (s.anis, SBS...)

[glad meteor]

I wonder what 3RL teams can work against Cindy that are consistent regardless of cindy hit order

Would be kind of nice to have makima

[spiral onyx]

Literally any 3RL AoE nuke team that doesn't have a delayed hit lol

Cindy's damage is delayed. So any AoE nuke that is able to kill her will win

[glad meteor]

feel like it can be rng, since crit can kill on first round. Was thinking something like a moran cindy team

3RL as in bursting 1RL slower against 2RL Cindy, so we get to use our b1 such as noise or Moran

[strange linden]

Do you have a full team for the 2RL noah? stuggling to form one

[lunar pawn]

aw

CS worth it or stick to the higher leveled resilience cube?

[dim sapphire]

anyone figure out how to stalk people

blablalink

[glad meteor]

on blabla

I tried finding someone, no luck

[umbral crown]

🧱

[glad meteor]

Emi rerun would probably have a community outrage

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

People do not like rezero collab

[umbral crown]

If the rerun includes gacha skij, im in

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[umbral crown]

Mid people

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

i skipped the story but in overall was a good collab

[glad meteor]

I enjoyed it too

Not that I read the story, i liked the event, once I got past the fact that I got screwed on pulls

Had to mileage rem and buy campaign gem packs

[umbral crown]

I got rem skin to get more tries for emi, no luck

[strange linden]

I'm a bit lost, who should I use them against? they are not the same teams as my opponent

[strange linden]

worked with this comp, thanks !

[tropic summit]

oh nice you ended up cooking on your own, good job Aki

sorry was busy maldin'

yeah that's a good example of 2RL noah

[strange linden]

I had a problem having 2 RL and a good buffer for SBS but I guess she doesn't need one

[tropic summit]

SBS and s.anis are one of the few B3s that are fine without

since you're dealing with scarlet, s.anis is out of question, SBS works fine as long as they don't have p1 taunter defender and biscuit

[spiral onyx]

Charge speed is situational, just like quantum. Burst happens when the burst gauge hits 100%. Unless the cube affects the bottlenecking unit, nothing will change

[strange linden]

is there a bug on SP arena? I'm stuck at 4 coins even after I attacked twice

[lunar pawn]

Is there? Did it consume gems instead?

[strange linden]

the same on rookie, used three attacks, didn't go down
maybe we had compensation at one point?

[spiral onyx]

Free attacks each day get consumed first before coins

[lunar pawn]

I thought he had already used his free attacks lol

[shell hazel]

we did have 4 sp-arena chips + 10 rookie ones but if you didn't go past the free ones each day they don't get used

was freebies from a bug a while back, I still got 2 of the sp-arena ones

I will keep them for a rainy day

[keen vapor]

Free attempts ≠ tokens (paid attempts, yes we got compensation months ago)

[magic marsh]

nvm, its bricked already

its 100k or more lol

[whole shell]

As a copium option to increase cp, you could use your liter instead of rh

[keen vapor]

No

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

or

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[keen vapor]

https://tenor.com/view/meet-the-robinsons-disney-wilbur-robinson-that-is-an-excellent-question-gif-16014909

Individual charge speed lines on the same unit can get rounded up or down
But if 2 or more have the same value they'll summ up and after that round

[umbral crown]

@keen vapor

361?

[keen vapor]

17% charge speed is the breakpoint we can identify easily (and it can be calculated on Nikke deck

[keen vapor]

Just wait a little longer I'm malding Modernia

[umbral crown]

?modernia when? hard

[keen vapor]

Elysion tower

[umbral crown]

elysion can wait

you already finished normal story, why delaying the boxes?

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

do not change the to´pic

[keen vapor]

It can potentially speed up teams by 0.5 RL

But more often than not is needed in multiple RL units rather than just one

Is why we use nikke deck

[tropic summit]

for most batteries it's 17%CS, for emilia 21% and 38%. There's B1 break point at 15% CS aswell, but you might aswell just go 17%CS to get the correct threshold

[glad meteor]

It depends who needs the last hit to fill the burst gen to 100%. Take this team for example. Helm needs the 17% CS to make the team 2.5RL

17% on bay and xmaiden wouldn’t even be enough

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/see-you-when-i-see-you-tania-raymonde-brittany-gold-goliath-see-you-around-gif-23204714

[tropic summit]

that's some insane stalling team

[glad meteor]

I doubt it

But we can hope

[tropic summit]

remove scarlet from the equation, as you'd be forced into xmaiden B3, the rest of the teams may struggle 🤔

[glad meteor]

Laplace was supposed to be in xmaido place

[tropic summit]

interesting idea tbh

[glad meteor]

Bay not even 20s b2

[tropic summit]

Bay treasure when

[glad meteor]

I can’t sr15

Shift up don’t want to do pvp only treasures

[digital whale]

💀

[glad meteor]

Emi indom , oh no ros burst

[tropic summit]

rosanna maybe died to scarlet s2

too little dmg to have bursted

[digital whale]

haha

[swift mango]

RL 1 shot = 100% time.

With 17% reduction, each shot is 17% faster.

The 3rd shoot will be 249% instead of 300% the time.

It's elementary school math.

[tropic summit]

I was about to say you forgot your

[glad meteor]

Gotta make the team first to know fully. But you can use the burst gen spreadsheets and learn what the high burst gen units are and invest in them such as

• ClipRL (Jackal Centi Rumani)
• HelmT
• Noah
• LaplaceT Xmaiden

[tropic summit]

@spare brook if you planning to invest into batteries, go for centi and rumani first into 17%, they're the most easy to apply

emilia 21% is also very handy

after that perhaps jackal, i'd be careful instead on noah if you want to keep a specific 4RL available

[digital whale]

Probably need to new 2nd team 💀

[crystal flicker]

Even Okayu plays Nikke

[tropic summit]

well it's not that difficulty, it's a non-indom scarlet

[digital whale]

oh

[swift mango]

Modernia

[tropic summit]

also unbuffed now that i look at it 🤔

[swift mango]

Not even MW...

[keen vapor]

Elysion tower got in the way

[tropic summit]

reshuffle soon, don't speak too early

[swift mango]

Nothing to do with anything.

[tropic summit]

nah SP arena is at the end of this season

rookie i personally don't rly care, reshuffle is limited there and pointless for the most part

[swift mango]

Yeah, for Rockie... My bracket with a guy actually did their def time is over. Now only a bunch of Scarlet.

[tropic summit]

not much else to run on rookie, also because generally you shouldn't reveal your hand

[swift mango]

I was 2 days without hitting.

[tropic summit]

might save you the headache from having to change ur def team

[swift mango]

I wanted that Cindy+Jackal+Noah+Biscuit rookie team to test.

[tropic summit]

either run a well known def team or just something that doesn't reveal ur best cards

2RL cindy or 2-3RL scarlet def teams generally work good enough

[swift mango]

No one run Cindy+Jackal in my bracket

The guy C1 last bracket spirited away.

Now I'm back to the bracket with 2 CN dudes.

[tropic summit]

check CP and go

[gaunt viper]

huh, well that's interesting. both these people were able to beat me before no problem so it was a constant back and forth. I wonder what happened 🤔 . I haven't changed my defense in at least 2 months or so too

[swift mango]

Currently I could beat everyone in my rookie with Scarlet+Blanc+RH+HelmT+Jackal.

[tropic summit]

any OL or perhaps you levelled up

[gaunt viper]

nope, i didn't change anything

[tropic summit]

[gaunt viper]

I mean i keep up with their sync lvl increase but other than that nothing

[tropic summit]

opponents commiting sudoku for you, all gud

[swift mango]

I think I could put this team on DEF and watch everyone else struggling.

[tropic summit]

then they copy you and you find them on sp arena

[gaunt viper]

I agree with you there

both of them have HelmT too, mines still only at SR lvl 8, RNG hasn't been kind to me

[swift mango]

I doubt anyone else in my bracket has 4 CS line on HelmT and Jackal.

[crystal flicker]

3 cs lines enough for 17%?

[tropic summit]

blue line is 5.05%, you need 4 anyway

[crystal flicker]

I've been rerolling % stat but I haven't get any black line

[tropic summit]

oh actually 5.51% my bad

still need 4 though

[crystal flicker]

doable

[tropic summit]

@quick lake would 16,53% be rounded up to 17?

[tropic summit]

oh wow 3 black lines would do

[whole pawn]

@tropic summit apparently after attacking the chal 8 in the morning, he probably used all his attempts, I stayed on chal 8 for 7 h and this guy took my place

[tropic summit]

oh that's better than dia1 whole day, not bad

[whole pawn]

IG I will attack after 2 h from reset and save attempt for tomorrow morning

[tropic summit]

yep sounds good

[glad meteor]

How did you get 16.53

[digital whale]

thank you

[crystal flicker]

tier 14 also reach 17

[tropic summit]

hypothetically, i personally didn't

that'd be 3 blue lines

[eager mountain]

2 black lines and 1 highest blue line will do

[tropic summit]

totally doable considering the very kind RNG of this game

[glad meteor]

5.51 x2 rounds to 11
5.51x3 rounds to 17

[tropic summit]

oh cool, so either 2 black lines 1 blue, or 3 blue

would allow you to save up on 1 line of CS%

[eager mountain]

the top top sr rankers competition has a lot to do with rock rng

[tropic summit]

oh i can imagine, i've seen those crazy numbers on elem atk and atk%

[crystal flicker]

fr

[proud relic]

which units should I focus arena wise:

[eager mountain]

u should focus on campaign and kraken at ur sync
but units to invest that u didnt would be jackel noah noise

[proud relic]

just not getting them xd

[tropic summit]

well you do have some materials tho

[shell hazel]

this would work for me but my Jackal links with RH and Helm in this comp 😄

[eager mountain]

wishlist rumani instead of noir, unless u simp noir

[proud relic]

okay

[eager mountain]

cp pad ur jackel noah and maybe noise a bit, come to think about it ur roster is decent for sync 209

[shell hazel]

<@&946725432554836008> some good old fashioned NSFW leaks

and ... gone! 🙂

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind liter jackal (replace anis with jackal since we not using her yet)
noah rapu sbs xmaiden tia
auto

wishlist/build asap: get helmT, stage 2 skill 1 lvl 10 and rumani, get teams reviewed then

Units to focus on:

SBS, Cindy, Blanc, Centi, Jackal, Noah, Rapunzel, Noise, HelmT, rumani

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-gauntlet-snap-finger-snap-gif-12502580

[eager mountain]

those who dont have helm lb but have blk ticket would feel good

best use of blk ticket ever, outside of breaking 160 wall

[proud relic]

helmT?

[tropic summit]

helm treasured

[eager mountain]

other than that they just be like lbing noah since shes the hardest for getting dups in terms of non-limited arena meta from the dup shop

[shell hazel]

noah dupes is legit

[tropic summit]

the lad keeps trying for ch3, but he can't even defend ch6

[shell hazel]

he doesn't know who he's messing with

[eager mountain]

he prob just doesnt know what hes doing

[tropic summit]

random BS go 🤔

[shell hazel]

cp higher = should win right?

[tropic summit]

omg why is RH in p5 i just noticed

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

[eager mountain]

did rail just failed cooking twice a row, impossible

[tropic summit]

do the same but either rumani in p5 or cindy in p5 and rh in p4

[crystal flicker]

Sometimes I win against Cindy Noah comp with ScarletBS, and sometimes I lost

[wise horizon]

got it. i will try that later, thanks anyway

[tropic summit]

on the safe side just remove RH, we dunno how stacked that rosanna is, rumani instead of RH and you should be fine (check CP)

[eager mountain]

post-cindy fix or

[lone hill]

good days fellas I want to ask something
I saw this today in prydwen page, this is legit? can helm with the fav item be one of the best pvp units and if is true which team I should use, before anything thanks for any recomendation

[eager mountain]

yes and yes
any team thats not already 2rl
best battery, dont use her as burst
also really good for pve

[crystal flicker]

after fix

[tropic summit]

yeah i'm just stupid, soon:

[lone hill]

may I ask what team you use?

[eager mountain]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1333630505270382593/1026322546934698004.gif

[tropic summit]

any team that is starved for batteries, cindy being one of the most

[crystal flicker]

or go 1.5RL with Scarlet

[lone hill]

cindy teams? I think I maybe outdate for the new meta un pvp

[tropic summit]

here you go, 2 variations with helmT

[lone hill]

guess I have to lvl up rumani

[tropic summit]

you can live even without rumani if you want

[eager mountain]

rumani:

[tropic summit]

alternative as rumani-less

having her does save you the need of using anis or jackal

or a SG feed

[lone hill]

so let me test this in realtime

[tropic summit]

well reset just came in, makes sense

[crystal flicker]

Rumani still good

[glad meteor]

:forgpat:

[tropic summit]

always

[eager mountain]

whats both team's setup

[lone hill]

ok so this is me before the test

[eager mountain]

win11 sufferer detected

[tropic summit]

why do i see ppl over 70-80 levels ahead

[lone hill]

theres a guy who nikkes are lvl 500 in this server or even more

[tropic summit]

you took breaks or didn't play or skipped events?

[eager mountain]

100lv gap usually indicate break instead of omega whale

[lone hill]

I took break the first month of the game

at the moment the wasnt too much appeling for me

[shell hazel]

a month isn't enough to explain 100 level gap 😄

[lone hill]

whales my friend

Indeed I think was less than 3 weeks

[eager mountain]

omega whale and unoptimized resource use

[lone hill]

yeah I play more casual put every nikke rocks and call the day

[tropic summit]

PvP and casual don't get along very well in this game

but i guess you can still try

[lone hill]

I just want to get top 10 to claim the 1600 crystals

[glad meteor]

Top 10 in sp or rookie?

[lone hill]

rookie

[shell hazel]

you sure you been playing since day 1 almost? 😄

[glad meteor]

Don’t get gems from rookie

Only arena tickets

[lone hill]

more casuals than anything I focus more in other games

[crystal flicker]

Need more reward for rookie fr

[lone hill]

even till this day I dont know how to made a proper team

just put everything under red hood and modernia hands and complete almost 90% of the content

[eager mountain]

pvp will take quite some learning and effort for the slight more gem

getting the basics isnt hard but if ur just autoing pve, pvp basics is a lot more then that

[lone hill]

well sometimes I just lose the interest when I have to face this guy

[crystal flicker]

tbf some people just send their box to this channel w/o knowing what the comps do

[eager mountain]

this guys whales and yet doesnt even do solo raid or even like any event frames at all

maybe he retired or something

or hes just having fun pouring cash

[lone hill]

well I got I ass beating by the guys I usually beat before the helm team so I guess need more investment

now that you guys mentioned sp arena what are the meta teams_

???

[eager mountain]

thats where it gets complex

the cindy one he mentioned could be one

and other would be scarlet jackel team

and the other could be anis or emi team

and thats the pre-cindy bugfix meta

[lone hill]

but we can use black scarlet instead of cindy?

[tropic summit]

not enough with my

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

sir post your box with nikke ordered by strength and we can make you teams

[eager mountain]

getting a bit tired of be like that

[lone hill]

ok

give me a moment

Im doing dailies right now while chatting with you guys

[tropic summit]

take ur time

i'm making dinner while doing dailies

[eager mountain]

omelette?

[tropic summit]

probably pasta with some tuna and tomato

i say probably because i'm leaning toward a more lazy dinner with just fries and meat

[eager mountain]

lol its indeed a very casual investment

[lone hill]

I almost have every nikke just missing a few ones so if is neccesary I can lvl up one of those girls

[whole shell]

Yikes

X.maiden, crown, and cindy so low

And s.anis too

Emi uninvested

[tropic summit]

helm and laplace treasured? helm stage 2 with skill 1 lvl 10?

[whole shell]

Looks like it

[lone hill]

lvl 8

[whole shell]

Helm wouldn't be so high otherwise

8 is fine, she's pretty much a clip rl

[eager mountain]

u have pretty much everyone. put rumani in sync

[whole shell]

That emi needs to go up stat though

[lone hill]

I dont know why cindy is so low maybe I need to lvl up more the skills bc she is 7/7/7

[eager mountain]

bad ol rng ig

[whole shell]

I don't see x.anne?

Unless I'm blind

[eager mountain]

he didnt list all so not sync'd

[whole shell]

Because he could prob do scarjack core/cindy noise/emi blanc and be pretty set on defense teams

[lone hill]

I posted before the ones I use more and them the ones I don't have

if is need it I can lvl up x.anne but off course it will take time

[eager mountain]

he can make really solid defense teams

[whole shell]

Yeah

Just investment issues

[eager mountain]

just that in order to do well on attack he would wanna learn a lot

[tropic summit]

for reference, can you post your current 3 def teams?

also surprised that diesel is that far high in the list

[whole shell]

Honestly?

He could make some zaza strats with diesel

[eager mountain]

its quite casual spread

[lone hill]

bc diesel and is my favorite and I tried to used as much as possible

[whole shell]

Treasure Diesel is practically unkillable and if you make the team fast enough then jackal can't counter properly

[lone hill]

however I know she is that good

[whole shell]

iirc treasure diesel can survive enraged alteisen turrets

[tropic summit]

maybe we should actually use this diesel 🤔

[lone hill]

about the defense teams you are going to laugh

[whole shell]

Which is absolutely no joke

[tropic summit]

oh that's fine dw

we've seen all kind weird stuff in here already

[whole shell]

[eager mountain]

🤔 ugh 2rl diesel would either be emilia or thelm

[tropic summit]

let's get this 2RL diesel shall we

[lone hill]

disclaimer I never change the sp team before I use the same since I was abel to play sp

[tropic summit]

who'd be the best B3 with her, perhaps ultra stall with helm afterall 🤔

[eager mountain]

🤔 no emilia would burn another bettery that could potentially contribute stall

[tropic summit]

honestly, i'm considering just 2 meta teams and 1 padded until he has emi and rumani up to speed

[whole shell]

I mean, I think this is a pretty good example of tdiesel strength

[whole shell]

Literally outhealing rapipi burst

[eager mountain]

2mg 1ar be like that

[tropic summit]

what in the world

so essentially an emma 2.0

[lone hill]

@_@ Im stared to getting confuse

[tropic summit]

fascinating

ultra stall teams really are the late game

[lone hill]

give me 3 possible team and them explain me why I should use it

[eager mountain]

but jackel isnt a bad idea if his diesel has high enough atk

[tropic summit]

dafuq she's actually even a defender, can combo with biscuit to prevent early death by scar

a whole new world of cookin' possible

[whole shell]

Lemme see if I can pull up anything else on tdiesel before we actually try cooking with it

[eager mountain]

im not gonna treasure her just to test it

[tropic summit]

where is his rapunzel again

[lone hill]

that is good she is my treasure too hahaha

[eager mountain]

moran is also unkillable anyway

[tropic summit]

oh wow top of list, ok we gud on 3 teams

[tropic summit]

arrange these 3 teams then show CP

(added a noise in that diesel, cuz more HP)

T3 is gonna be stacked af of CP, T1 and T2 let's see what comes out of it

[shell hazel]

damn an extra level and crown skill 1 is about 10 bars off this

[lone hill]

so I already made the change I going to fight agains this guy lvl 371

[tropic summit]

soon TM

[shell hazel]

these are your def teams afaik

[shell hazel]

not attack, for attack you need to change team based on who you face

and what team they have

[lone hill]

I gonna recorder so you guys can watch my ass beating in 480 p

I cant see it

[tropic summit]

ye that's fine but first show teams

we need to pick the right team for their matchup

[whole shell]

From zixk:

Noise + Diesel can counter:
RH B1 + B3, Alice, unbuffed nuker

Diesel + S.Sakura can counter:
Scalter

Diesel + Moran can counter:
S.Anis

[tropic summit]

dayum

[whole shell]

Alice is surprising

Elemental advantage and can't kill with noise

[glad meteor]

S.Sakura or OG sakura?

[shell hazel]

so diesel is OP?!

[whole shell]

She has to burst for that to happen tho

[whole shell]

Zixk prob made an error and meant og sakura

[whole shell]

Man the enemy team sucks balls

[whole shell]

That's such an easy win

[lone hill]

theres other guy lvl 448 so

[tropic summit]

perfect to test that juicy diesel

[eager mountain]

u should be hitting dia6 instead
also duplicate screenshot

[lone hill]

I confuse the screenshot

[tropic summit]

only missing 1 more team

[lone hill]

but I gonna fight against the low lvl

[glad meteor]

Guillotine

[eager mountain]

this is overkill, u should be able to hit dia6

[tropic summit]

i kinda wanna test diesel tanking RH B3 🤔

[tropic summit]

who's their 3rd team and we ready

[lone hill]

ok let me reduce the quality of the video so I can upload or the server have nitro bost? so I can post it without do that?

[tropic summit]

i think up to 50-100MB? dun remember

worst case upload on YT and send link

[lone hill]

112 mb

but Is 1080 I think in 720 I can upload give me a second

nah, will be 480 sorry guys

here

[glad meteor]

The lower the quality, the faster it loads

[tropic summit]

oh alrighty let's see 🍿

[eager mountain]

well bis invlun tanked all rh shots ig

[whole shell]

Invuln did run out however

[glad meteor]

During tail end of burst can see rh wasn’t doing anything vs diesel

[lone hill]

so approve?

[eager mountain]

like i said dia 7 is cakewalk there

[tropic summit]

yeah we need better opponents

[tropic summit]

although the test we could say was succesfull, looked like diesel outhealed RH B3

[whole shell]

Diesel taking the full brunt and basically not even a sliver or health gone lul

[tropic summit]

(once out of invulnerb)

[glad meteor]

Imagine if diesel can survive scar s2

[tropic summit]

yeah i kinda wanna test that

[whole shell]

Don't think it's possible but would be funny

[tropic summit]

we'll be safe as diesel is on biscuit should give her time to reach B2 regardless

[whole shell]

Maybe Moran + Diesel + Quiry shenanigans?

[tropic summit]

that's expensive on RL side tho

[whole shell]

True

[glad meteor]

Probably need helm for gen

Would say immune

[eager mountain]

oh

[tropic summit]

biscuit is 5s, i doubt she procced biscuit twice on full HP

[whole shell]

Noise would make it faster but noise healing prob not enough

[tropic summit]

that said, interesting

i'll keep my eye out on diesel 🤔

[eager mountain]

yeah rh still hitting her for like 1 sec after invlun

[shell hazel]

helm burst there healing as well

[eager mountain]

honestly thats still just anti-non nuke measure against feeds
offensive use mostly

simply nuke her def

[tropic summit]

so much potential tho, this is already 3RL so easy 2RL

[eager mountain]

so similar to moran issue

[tropic summit]

you sacrifice taunt for sustain

[eager mountain]

if she dont need to burst to taunt their team she would be broken

[shell hazel]

diesel has a treasure as well right? is that needed to make her useful

problem with diesel is she feeds

[eager mountain]

no

[tropic summit]

feed is ok on 2RL

[lone hill]

what feed means?

a lot of investment?

[eager mountain]

rapid fire

[tropic summit]

real issue is lack of DPS tho 🤔

[eager mountain]

nikke with skills that activated based on hit taken like diasel and jackel, u avoid hitting them with rapid fire weapons

[tropic summit]

assuming she hits 2RL, she'll live, but the rest of the team likely won't

[shell hazel]

helm at phase 3 might actually do some damage at least

[tropic summit]

you'd need noah but you can't since she's B2

shame on that

[eager mountain]

moran issue

i still think moran is more partical then diesel

[tropic summit]

moran nero combo is definitly more practical

diesel is more of a niche alternative

[lone hill]

ok I need to go guys tomorrow I will test again at same hour

[tropic summit]

although definitely an improved emma

[eager mountain]

ye

[lone hill]

meanwhile should I level up moran?

[eager mountain]

no

[tropic summit]

nah don't touch anything yet

we need to see your opponents on higher up

get emi and rumani up to speed

[eager mountain]

both moran and diesel are niche
we using diesel cuz shes already heavily invested

[lone hill]

well I need to remove nikkes from the exp share or whatever is called to put emilia and rumani

[eager mountain]

theres a lot u can get rid off easily

[lone hill]

and check their skills lvl in anycase tomorrow

https://tenor.com/view/goodbye-chat-good-bye-bye-good-night-goodbye-chat-f-18-goodbye-chat-takeoff-gif-1927975380438168234

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-chat-hello-hi-chat-cat-cat-meme-gif-14113031897149679466

[shell hazel]

i'm convinced that cat came from another dimension

[whole shell]

I feel tempted to build diesel treasure so I can test zaza with her

But doll mats scarcity

[eager mountain]

imma go for def Moran once im done with pve units and 17cs

[shell hazel]

we have to be patient

still holding for now...

[tropic summit]

he's gonna hit you before season reset, i guarantee

[shell hazel]

yeah I think you're right

[whole shell]

My def finally got cracked after 3 days

[tropic summit]

that'd be a good time to put a sneaky helmT

[shell hazel]

though I could swap up def a bit right before the end

[whole shell]

Now I need to cook something new

[shell hazel]

to which team should I add sneaky helm?

[tropic summit]

1-2 hours before reset, make an helmT team @shell hazel

show ur current 3 teams i forgot

[eager mountain]

Maybe he can cook one

[shell hazel]

it's a good idea though if I don't get shuffled out of the bracket they'll see it

[unkempt kestrel]

do u guys think its worth to max blanc burst?

[shell hazel]

only line 1 is really that invested at all

gets ropey by doro/SBS

[whole pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-hello-chat-chat-gif-11854988458409488653

[tropic summit]

aww it won't benefit you much unfortunately

we'd need a rumani

oh.

there might be a choice

[shell hazel]

going to hope I get her still at some point

you mean anchor maid?

[shell hazel]

naga and helm have similar cp so won't tank me

[tropic summit]

alright, if anything you'll find out if he's skipping or attacking that team

if it suddenly works, he's not skipping it

[shell hazel]

they could break def sometimes anyway not sure it concludes a lot hehe

[tropic summit]

ah true they've been inconsistent afterall

[eager mountain]

not the highest priority but a good burst to max

[shell hazel]

ah I do lose a bit of cp swapping Noah in due to Noah being a bit under-invested atm

15k less not necessarily critical

[tropic summit]

hmm

maybe we should update your teams with a noah team afterall

[shell hazel]

I want to OL her a bit as well tbh, but I can't do it yet

[upper grove]

why cindy P2 though

[shell hazel]

MC chapter 32 is sorta my priority once I kill that I'll sort out Noah some

cindy is already p2 I guess it's position oversight 😄

[tropic summit]

check CP for curiosity with this one (ignore the teams above i was just messing with them)

[tropic summit]

well dayum looks doable

use this card on the last 2hrs of tuesday (should be reshuffle day)

[shell hazel]

yeah no worries will do 🙂

puts me at this right?

[tropic summit]

yep looks good, until blanc is ready to replace grave

these may aswell be your best teams atm

could replace alice with SBS as better B3 option

[shell hazel]

my alice is far more built atm

[tropic summit]

yeah makes sense

once SBS is near her CP opt for her instead

[shell hazel]

yep 🙂

thanks Railtracer!

should I set my teams back to the dopey ones before once new sp-arena comes about?

allows me to hide Helm for more time

[tropic summit]

i'd keep your hand hidden as long as possible

say until you hold ch1-ch3 comfortably

if you ever drop lower, then start using it

[shell hazel]

I think I could set that just in last 30 mins or so tbh, I doubt they'll hit me before then

as I can then hit back in time

[tropic summit]

ye that's fine

tbh most non-sweaty won't be checking 1-2 hours before reset

but your rival sure will

[shell hazel]

also I've basically secured spot 1 now been here most of the season, not sure they'd have enough time even if they took it back today and I couldn't take it back for some reason

if I got forced back to 2 it probably wouldn't matter

[tropic summit]

it won't point wise

starting position it might

if you start as ch2 after a reshuffle, chances a ch1 is a whale is fairly high

if you already cover that spot, on the other hand, you may secure at least 1 non-whale spot in ch1-ch2-ch3 range

[shell hazel]

yeah I'll do my best to hold chal 1 at the end for sure!

[upper grove]

oh so if ppl are C1 they'll most likely reenter next shuffle as C1 without other whales?

[shell hazel]

trick is to become the whale it seems

heh my rival knocked down from 2nd to 5th maybe they aren't burning tries on me as they need them to def 2nd

they could probably cp gap most with dumb auto teams tbh - looks like they had pretty built up units for main campaign dps

[tropic summit]

what I know is that in-season position is retained based on the last one, but after reshuffle i never paid attention but iirc it keeps your last actual position pre season end and not the point based position

this season I'm planning to test that theory as i'll be ch3 based on points but i'll be ch1 based on rank

[eager mountain]

maybe i should just go 6th tbh, might have less chance dealing with whales...?

[tropic summit]

i think the safer option is securing ch1

that way if ch2 and ch3 are whales, you can fall back to ch3

if you're ch6, you might be stealing a casual's spot instead

[upper grove]

okay I see, let's hope that C2-C3 next season doesn't introduce whales in my new bracket

[tropic summit]

fingers crossed indeed

[upper grove]

I wasn't attacked regularly for 16 days, last attack was a random single attempt 3 days ago

[gaunt viper]

Finally . now I'll have to figure out what teams to use her in

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/desultor-wgmis-wagmi-wgmi-frog-gif-26447653

treasure time!

[vapid lake]

i actually dk who to doll next so i'm just gonna hoard lots of kits

[shell hazel]

crown and rapi on my end I guess

sr-5 atm, so prob rapi first

[gaunt viper]

Shame I won't get 3 star for a while tho, 21/110 materials needed still

[vapid lake]

don't need 3 star for pvp

just s1 and s2

[umbral belfry]

spare 1 helm so mine can be 2 stars

[shell hazel]

you just need to visit silver mileage shop

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

i'm trying and failing to get boots for her atm! got elysion defender + supporter boots today

[umbral belfry]

[shell hazel]

but I need attacker ones

[quartz prawn]

nero sr 15

[umbral belfry]

no way did i get an elysion attacking top after reading this

ty

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/congrats-nice-happy-for-you-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-1927193140186872022

[umbral belfry]

but in other news

the time is soon

[shell hazel]

haha kidding ofc really congrats, I'm sure I'll get my boots sometime 😄

[umbral belfry]

rng will bless you

[modest summit]

What is this "SP arena info has been updated. update to confirm" message when I try to attack?

[gaunt viper]

I take it best lines for OL is Ele, Atk, and CS? btw should skill lvls be 10/10/4 or something?

[vapid lake]

the person you were attacking got attacked before you could click OK or he changed his team while you were looking at him

[shell hazel]

10/4/4 is fine for pvp for now

[vapid lake]

10/4/4 for pvp, 10/10/10 for pve

4 ele 4 atk 4 cs

helm is that good

[shell hazel]

1 ammo roll won't kill you, but don't add too much ammo

[gaunt viper]

gotcha that's what I thought, got a 68% ammo line but figured. it needs to be rerolled.

[shell hazel]

her skill triggers when clip is emptied

[gaunt viper]

rn she's 10/7/4

[shell hazel]

but I think 1 ammo roll is OK personally

I dunno if anyone ran the numbers but I suspect a single ammo line roll on her might actually be good

[gaunt viper]

hmmm maybe, i thought that would be better for PVE with her s3

[shell hazel]

I want to use her for both

I think you start bricking her a bit at 2 ammo rolls though

I'd probably keep 1 🙂

or at the very least don't let an ammo roll force you to re-roll an otherwise great piece of gear

[gaunt viper]

alright, as of rn I have decent lines but not the best

[shell hazel]

I need to roll mine but will OL all 4 slots first

and then somehow get the rocks to do it 😄

[gaunt viper]

my first roll of them 3/4 pieces had only 4.92% CS and that was it

[gaunt viper]

well I rolled quite a bit, this is my 1 ammo line

[shell hazel]

haha

her clip is 6, does that make it 11?

[gaunt viper]

I would think prob so

[shell hazel]

man black line ammo though

with that roll ele or atk on line 1 would be decent....

can I have some rocks?

[gaunt viper]

yeah i was shocked, I'm really hoping it's good tho cause it brought me up 6k CP

almost 7k

[shell hazel]

I'd prob run with it - but others I guess may have other opinions

you could leave it for now see if anyone disagrees 😄

[gaunt viper]

yeah I could definitely be better. I have so few rocks tho

[shell hazel]

17 > my 1 rock

[gaunt viper]

I used to have a few hundred but I joined a new guild a few weeks ago that helped me allocate them

so from then it feels so little

it was 40 before I put some in helm

[shell hazel]

few hundred!

[gaunt viper]

yeah I hoarded them for a while cause I never went for each line to be useful, just 1 or 2 so it took a lot of rocks

Xlud was the worst of em, took like 110, for some reason she would just not give good rolls

[shell hazel]

@desert sphinx we found the guy with all the rocks! 😮

[desert sphinx]

where

[shell hazel]

[gaunt viper]

btw now that I have Helm built would i be able to improve this rookie def squad better you think?

[shell hazel]

is it usual to run both scarlet and emilia?

figure scarlet is your nuke here

[gaunt viper]

I mean it was for me, it was what I was advised to use for a long while

[shell hazel]

one thing to bear in mind - rookie arena doesn't matter where you rank, I set a derp defence (somewhat) on purpose

[gaunt viper]

but I haven't updated it for quite a few months

well rookie I have 1 person just targeting me only

[shell hazel]

you don't want to set a really good def it lets people test your units/defences and they may share your sp-arena bracket

[gaunt viper]

all 5 attempts just on me

I lose them so I wanted to improve the def

[gaunt viper]

I don't see that person in SP luckily. tho I do have others I've been dealing with. hopefully throwing Helm in there makes it better

[shell hazel]

just a general tip I think

[gaunt viper]

so u think take out Emilia for Helm then?

[shell hazel]

like don't set your arena def to exactly or nearly match your sp-def teams

if you do they can test your comps out more freely

[gaunt viper]

nah my SP is slightly different

[shell hazel]

ah for me a lot of crossover lol

for jackal you know how the link works right?

[gaunt viper]

little more similar than i thought

yeah 2 highest atk

[shell hazel]

assuming your scarlet is linked here for certain? at least in the emi comp

rumani one she would be

[gaunt viper]

oh, didn't realize Helm has just barely more Atk than my RH

[shell hazel]

it's final ATK value not on screen ones, if any unit has ATK % on OL lines you have to work it out

so if RH has 100000 ATK and Helm has 105000 ATK, but RH has 10% ATK and Helm has 0% ATK

[gaunt viper]

actually nvm Helm as the highest of them all

[shell hazel]

then RH ATK would be (100000 * 1.10) = 110000 and Helm would just be 105000

[gaunt viper]

Scarlet is 3rd

in emi comp, emi was 3rd highest

[shell hazel]

yeah but again check it if they have OL lines if it looks even slightly close

as it doesn't show on the page

but would impact in reality

I think you'd want someone else there than Emilia though either way

[gaunt viper]

ah yeah RH has 37% Atk from OL lines

[shell hazel]

unless you making derp on purpose comp 😄

my rookie def is my campaign team

in my bracket I wind up anywhere from 1st to 10th but it depends, and I won't get 1st this shuffle

but it gives me easier attacks to do when it resets so I just do the easier ones

[keen vapor]

@coarse lake

[keen vapor]

Ah, I haven't checked whale count current season

[half grail]

Okay I got Helms fav item where do I put her in my Attacks teams idk positioning yet I know she has one of the highest Burst Gen

[gaunt viper]

makes sense

[shell hazel]

it depends how much you mind losing lol

but doesn't bother me like I said, just set derp campaign team and it's highish CP so stops the minnows from attacking anyway

you can use a proper attack team ofc

[shell hazel]

and yeah you have to calc it, so for this it would be on-screen RH ATK figure * 1.37

[gaunt viper]

ah, gotcha. whelp it'll be really close between Helm and Scarlet then

[shell hazel]

you can test it in an encounter somewhere

see who takes damage for the link that way

[gaunt viper]

twins, couldn't get another Atk line

[shell hazel]

1/1 rocks same as me now lol

[half grail]

What’s Treasure Helm skill investment for PvP?

From Prydwen says 7/10/10 is that worth?

[shell hazel]

#pvp-arena message

[half grail]

Alright ty

[shell hazel]

skill 1 is imperative

others are more pve (but I'll do them later on more)

[gaunt viper]

Helm 21% atk to Scarlet 25%

[shell hazel]

yeah just double check it 🙂

[gaunt viper]

but 4k difference off basic numbers

[shell hazel]

I wouldn't set Helm on your rookie def either btw, again don't want people testing it

I'm keeping mine for a secret weapon for now

[half grail]

Damn so I realized she’s good for both now since her treasure came out huh?

[shell hazel]

yeah she has the highest burst gen of all

but looks good for pve as well

[half grail]

Even for pve I didn’t expect she’ll be good too

Nice I’ll invest into her for sure some more

[agile hornet]

How should I counter Noise Noah SAnis Rapunzel Jackal?

[gaunt viper]

the 2nd is Scarlet

[shell hazel]

haha that is close!

do a rookie arena attack to check it as well

[gaunt viper]

the thing is it's not a secret weapon in mine, im seeing THelm all over the place

[shell hazel]

as in reality want to confirm it works and links RH + Scarlet

[shell hazel]

ah is for me but you see my sync, I haven't seen anyone else mad enough to invest in her yet at my brackets

[gaunt viper]

ah that makes sense then

it does take a lot of resources

[shell hazel]

indeed but need my helm 😄

[shell hazel]

not glossing over your question btw but short answer is I don't know 😄

I'm too new and no one I match up against even has s.anis - looks like all from cindy era

maybe someone who knows more can help!

[gaunt viper]

Can confirm. Scarlet and RH get the link

[shell hazel]

am not sure she is best used with scar/jack though, probably better for speed tuning cindy maybe

[gaunt viper]

you could run the god comp

this is courtesy of Agent_Eon

the Key thing about this squad is you need to make sure Noise and Noah have no Ammo or CS lines. I've run this comp against everything since and never lost, thank you @coarse lake

[gaunt viper]

Probably so but I'm interested in seeing if I can change up the statistics with it. get Scarlet Burst off before they can perhaps

[shell hazel]

my jackal would link with helm and RH for sure 😄

[agile hornet]

Hmm my defence is noise rapunzel sbs jackal Noah and assuming he uses his defence as attack team, my defence didn’t work haha

[modest summit]

What’s this? I tried to attack and now I have some cool-down to attack that doesn’t go away

[gaunt viper]

well that's a bit harder to say, I haven't used that team as a Defense team before. I considered it but I didn't wanna give away what I used so they could counter me

[keen vapor]

Restarting doesn't solves?

[modest summit]

Nothing does

[keen vapor]

Deleting cache neither?

I might call custom service at this point

[modest summit]

Gonna try reinstalling app

[dapper blade]

Help pls. How to beat this team?

[upper grove]

SP or rookie? if SP what are the other teams

[dapper blade]

Rookie actually

Blanc, Emilia, RH not working

[upper grove]

makes sense, because wasting scar jack and biscuit noah would be insane on 1 team for SP

echo cook something, MA time to shine

[glad meteor]

Do you know if noah is jackal linked?

Imagine noise more CS than noah + noah second highest attack

We could sanis this if noah isn’t jackal linked. or else noah biscuit emi 3RL

Sanis would need to be positioned properly

[crystal flicker]

Blanc Emi should work if Emi get Indom from Blanc though

[glad meteor]

It’s inconsistent because of biscuit s2 and jackal link

Defender can just survive till full burst ends

[crystal flicker]

I assume they don't have enough damage to proc Biscuit's passive early enough

[glad meteor]

I think jackal could survive with 50% post emt, but can’t confirm

[dire root]

So using all your meta units on team 1 is a bad idea? I always just put the strongest team in first slot assuming that the other player would do the same. Afraid I wouldn't be able to win round 1 if I didn't.

[glacial lion]

[glad meteor]

Jackal and biscuit help enable teams to succeed, almost guaranteeing a team to function as intended by protecting the burst units

They’re used separately to help enable two teams

[crystal flicker]

in PvP, as long as your CP is not below 15.4% deficit against the other player, optimal team > high cp team

[eager mountain]

i think they were told this for few times already

[crystal flicker]

yeah, some people just don't believe mechanism

[eager mountain]

oh, hes really low sync, lack of chara and sometimes cp matters a lot there cuz of more polarized cp spread, thats why he mightve been told both ways

but yeah even tho now ur team should have a mix of pvp teams and cp teams, eventually there wont be cp teams

[crystal flicker]

Exception for those whale

and Leviathan

[eager mountain]

sync 152 and barely any lb... oh no... the wall is gonna hit really hard for him

tho now u can just go 1 mlb + alice/liter/naga + anniversity free mlb

[coarse lake]

Standard banner skipping syndrome

[eager mountain]

tho no reason to mlb liter now, and not enough selector to mlb all
so 2 mlb + naga/alice + 1 anni free mlb

[crystal flicker]

He could go all in in limited banner to MLB them tbh

[eager mountain]

he only have 30k gems

other wise i would say mlb both new eva good for future kraken farming as well

[crystal flicker]

just need to farm those stages

I don't remember how but I MLB Ein and SAnis on my 2nd week or something

[eager mountain]

[dire root]

WellI was told to save my gems for the event pulls.

I will probably be stuck on wall for few months.

[eager mountain]

you will have to priortize getting 2 mlb from wishlist or banner to get over the wall

getting stuck there bricks progression, thats a lot of cd and rock loss

[dire root]

Hope is I can fully limit break fire Asuka.

I doubt I can though

I only have like 80 pulls in gems.

[eager mountain]

ugh... doubt shes mlb worth

[crystal flicker]

don't forget to push tower

[dire root]

Tribe tower? I'm floor 125. I can also do all the EX stages I skipped.

[crystal flicker]

tower, lost sector, early PvP, basically gems income for pulls

[eager mountain]

we still need to test rei, so u might get to know whether its a good idea to mlb wind eva or not soon enough

[dire root]

Current lost sector is a pain in the neck, I need 2 teams which I don't have.

[final wedge]

guys....help......why Blanc heal become so decent now dat i reach lv500+

[eager mountain]

asuka would be considered great pick for mlb back then
now powercreep'd a bit, and her campaign use also bricked by volleyballs

[vapid lake]

maybe the guy u fought got x/10/10 blanc

[final wedge]

[crystal flicker]

volley balls introduced in wind weak tough

[eager mountain]

asuka doesnt contribute volleyball break is pain

u either sbs distribute dmg bs thru it or go snipe + naga

[crystal flicker]

that being said, WAsuka might be a decent choice

or he can save for 2.5 at end of April/early May

[eager mountain]

if he can get 800 gold tickets, then he can get mlb form 2.5 pilgrim, or 600 if he got lucky from free daily
and then just mlb a banner, or doing so in advance, or wishlist luck

[crystal flicker]

I mean there's no way he's as bricked as me

[vapid lake]

pilgrim better

[crystal flicker]

I forgot how many pulls you get every month

[eager mountain]

he cant give pilgrim banner a single non-free pull if he wanna break wall

[eager mountain]

800-1200 gems-ish equivalent per day for old acc

[umbral crown]

no emi?

[umbral crown]

context

[eager mountain]

pilgrim banner ig

3 out of thousand

[crystal flicker]

Hd to mileage every limited banner

found this from Suisei's simp

[vapid lake]

this channel is so blue

[raven plover]

[quick lake]

Me not blue

[quartz prawn]

yap more

[quick lake]

[umbral crown]

go the blue way

[vapid lake]

U must be very close to blue go check

[raven plover]

[umbral crown]

i should be red but things happened

im not as active as i used to be

[eager mountain]

[raven plover]