pvp-arena

[misty valve]

Quantum on jackal, centi, and rumani?

[tropic summit]

correct

[swift mango]

Yeah, I'm chasing the CN dude 10 level above me since early days. Using gem claim and reroll dispatch and more campaign clear. About to caught up now after a year.

[tropic summit]

wew, he's gonna be in for a surprise soon then

[misty valve]

Wait I just realized no sanis?

[swift mango]

He lower level than me now. But he stack up to x1 so it it's not that.

Dude always unbox when he could x1 and hoard still he could again.

[tropic summit]

yeah you can use her instead of SBS, ideally alternate whenever you lose a def

keep in mind this:

-sanis will lose to scar-jack
-sbs will lose to taunter def + biscuit

see whatever the opponent seems less likely to run

[misty valve]

Great advice! Tysm

[swift mango]

Nothing to surprise for him. He knows how my level look like because on same bracket lol

[tropic summit]

ye but some people tend to not check until it's too late

one of my bracket lads thought he could remain ch2-ch3 forever, until suddenly he's out cp'ed because he slacked on campaign

silly mistakes happen when they assume ppl behind them think alike

[swift mango]

This guy is chilling in c4-6 now, he stopped bother trying to c1-3 haha

My bracket is with 2 whales, couldn't be helped.

Dude only log in 1-2 times at best a day now.

He buy skins so could pay some money if he ever pressed for level.

[whole pawn]

[wet coyote]

Hello im looking for a new sp teams if possible

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[tropic summit]

a few questions and i should've everything:

-laplace and helmT treasured? helmT has skill 1 to lvl 10 and stage 2 treasure?
-rosanna investiment? skills and OL's
-since she's not there, no noah and no rumani correct?

[quick lake]

Rosanna in last row means uninvested

[wet coyote]

No, I only have Drake's Treasure for now. I haven't managed to get Noah yet, but I can build Rosanna and Rumani. Could you give me teams without them for now and other teams including them that I can use once I level them up please?

[tropic summit]

oh ok so no laplace and no helm either

gonna work with these let's see

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind sodaTB noise
scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
bay sbs rapu biscuit drakeT

cubes

quantum on jackal, centi
vigor on rapu, biscuit, noise, blanc
temperance on bay
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

wishlist/build: noah, rumani, get helmT, can consider la+ and rosanna late game investiment

note: for T2 in "aim toward" table, beware that scarlet needs to be 1st or 2nd highest atk%, else don't use drakeT (would risk stealing jackal link)

[wet coyote]

Thanks you so much !

[shadow pagoda]

whats the best generic pvp teams

just 3x SP teams assume i have all units

defense teams i should say

[tropic summit]

i've gotcha

[shadow pagoda]

goat

[tropic summit]

found it

#pvp-arena message

[shadow pagoda]

goat

[kindred delta]

I am missing Rumani (and Trony + Flora, but haven't seen them recommended) and don't have Rosanna or Emilia build at all. How could I substitute those 3 slots? Can I use the same teams for def and atk?

[shadow pagoda]

completely nuked ny CP but not like theyre beating 80-100 levels anyway lmao

[tropic summit]

yeah probably have some unbuilt ones among those, if they tank your CP too much just leave CP padding, it is still a form of defense

[shadow pagoda]

nah they cant beat me even if my CP was lower just due to sheer stats diff lmao

[tropic summit]

too stronk

[tropic summit]

you won't need flora or trony for pvp

rosanna and emilia are also not strictly a must have, although they'd help

especially on later synchs

[tropic summit]

what teams are you going for? share them here so we can suggest alternatives

[south panther]

@keen vapor I just unlocked SP arena... can I do anything there?

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor lemme ping him too just to annoy him

[south panther]

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

[south panther]

pvp team....... plez

I don't think there's any way I could possibly build my team to be able to deal with these guys tho

[swift mango]

Difference isn't that large. Open you wallet to catch up shouldn't be too much money.

[swift mango]

@keen vapor

[south panther]

nuh uh, my money my money my money,,,,,

[swift mango]

Could just reroll

[tropic summit]

150 lvl difference, did you take a break?

[south panther]

Yep, I took a 6-12 month break i think, i wasn't counting

[tropic summit]

scarlet viper miranda drake jackal
anis privatyn102 biscuit tia
auto

wishlist: noah, noise, rumani, rapunzel, centi

[south panther]

thank you thank you, I didn't know the position order mattered!!

[kindred delta]

Honestly I have no idea what I should be doing .-. Currently I have a team with Scarlet, W.Anne, Centi, RRH Jackal
Second team is Rogue, Alice, RH, Laplace (with treasure), Biscuit
Third team is Rapunzel, Blanc, SBS, Cindy, Noah

[crystal flicker]

that's questionable choice for pvp

[south panther]

auto chose these for my 3rd pvp team

[crystal flicker]

You want to avoid using MG and majority of SR for PvP, as they have very slow burst gen

[south panther]

So Mast would be a better pick than Diesel for this?

lowkey wanting to pick Sakura instead of D...

[south panther]

Is shotgun bad in pvp??? or is it good? idk how hitrate works in pvp-

[crystal flicker]

Shotgun pretty good

I forgot what mast weapon, but probably yeah

[south panther]

smg !

[crystal flicker]

Even SR Neon is a good choice if your cp isn't too low

and R unit Product 23

but again it's a flex team, usually just to CP pad

[tropic summit]

post your box here with nikke ordered by strength, someone can arrange teams for you

once i'm back i can do it myself in a few hours

[kindred delta]

I was following a guide like a year ago but then changed for higher cp Nikke along the way ;-;

That's my build roster, thanks for looking into it

[south panther]

dang I lost to this person, all 3 times,,, 😔

ig I really am entirely locked out of pvp on this account.. shiftup fix ur game please

[crystal flicker]

My returnee account also stuck at Platinum lol

[south panther]

i was stuck at uhhhh, I don't remember, but someone told me to just spam every day even if I lost, for some reason i don't think they even explained why...

So I deranked on purpose ig? which kinda sucked and i don't even see the point of it, but its whatever ig

[crystal flicker]

Is your helm treasured? you can try generic meta comp

[crystal flicker]

your cp diff is too big, keep playing and you might starting to catch up after 6months+

sync 250 is like 6 months of progress

[south panther]

curses !!!!

[shell hazel]

you're 68 and they're +100 levels on you, not sure how you thought you had a chance here 😄

what were the team combat powers like?

[south panther]

I didn't think I had a chance !!! I literally said in my original message that this was probably not possible at all 💔

[kindred delta]

Yes, but only at base stage and 7/7/4 skills

[south panther]

over 4:1 advantage

[shell hazel]

85% is probably a loss let alone 25%

you may as well use your tries if you haven't but yeah no chance there 😄

[south panther]

and that was the weakest I could find too, yeah i'm just burning tries to slowly get SP arena progress

[shell hazel]

re-roll?

you'll be fighting people in pvp who are well ahead of you forever otherwise

[south panther]

hell no... I'd rather give up on pvp entirely than reroll

[shell hazel]

if you care about the pvp side a re-roll now will at least give you a chance

[south panther]

I do care, but I care about Not rerolling more >.<

[shell hazel]

fair enough well you can only do what you can do

but I'd not bother attacking someone so much higher it's not worth trying, closer to 75% maybe, but not 25%

[kindred delta]

What is the standard meta comb?

[shell hazel]

#pvp-arena message if you got everyone

[kindred delta]

I don't have Rumani, Rosanna or Emilia

[shell hazel]

if you can't run the meta comp you'd need a proper cooking session basically

tailored to the nikkes you have and their investment levels

[kindred delta]

I posted my build roster here

[shell hazel]

ah nice one, I am not really able to come up with teams for you but with the nikkes you posted hopefully someone can!

what are you currently running?

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit help my friend getting his jackal link wiped

[kindred delta]

Scarlet, W.Anne, Centi, RRH Jackal
Second team is Rogue, Alice, RH, Laplace (with treasure), Biscuit
Third team is Rapunzel, Blanc, SBS, Cindy, Noah
It's a bit of a mess ;-;

[tropic summit]

what in the world

CP is fine right? might be a doll issue (SR5 minimun on jackal)

could actually consider temperance on jackal

will be overkill, but if that's a rookie team can actually run biscuit aswell, jackal will become invulnerable, still get feed and still allow scarlet to counter

[fathom rock]

That was sp and no deficit

[tropic summit]

oof

what are the other 2 teams in case? might wanna change approach and scar-jack something else, run biscuit and p5 defender here instead

[fathom rock]

Tommorow he gon check
Jackal sr0

[tropic summit]

oh there we go

squishy jackal

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind xmaiden noise
scarlet blanc rh noir jackal - linked nikke must be higher max HP than scarlet, scarlet must be 2nd or 1st highest atk% (OL included) in this team
noah biscuit rapu sbs la+

cubes

quantum on centi, jackal
vigor on biscuit, rapu, blanc, noise
temperance on noah
other nikke run highest lvl cube available

todo/wishlist: get helmT (s1 lvl 10, stage 2) and rumani, can then upgrade T1 and T2

invest in dolls for noah and jackal, ideally SR5

[shell hazel]

check jackal link on t2 as well

jackal links to 2 highest atk (on screen atk isn't accurate you need to account for atk OL lines)

[tropic summit]

probably fine in this case, scarlet is pretty high up, even more than RH

[shell hazel]

ideally jackal links to RH + Scarlet, if Noir has a lot of ATK she can nick the link 🙂

[tropic summit]

it's more concerning his indom chance, jackal might be lowest max HP

at least it still serves as a 2.5RL-3RL scar-jack nuke

[shell hazel]

I haven't invested in my Noir for ages but she still steals the link if I use her 😄

[tropic summit]

lemme add those in the notes on the safe side

[shell hazel]

scarlet has no OL ATK lines Noir has 6% or so, but she steals atk even without em

this despite my Scarlet having more investment really

[tropic summit]

yeah OL doing it's job there

[swift mango]

Add biscuit or Rapunzel.

[tropic summit]

sneaky

[shell hazel]

not sure, Scarlet has 4 pieces OL

Noir has 2

Scarlet has SR-5 doll Noir R-15

still Noir has higher ATK stat

[tropic summit]

wait... why is your noir so invested?

[shell hazel]

I haven't touched her in ages lol

[tropic summit]

dayum

[shell hazel]

maybe 3 months?

[tropic summit]

my noir is bare minimun

[shell hazel]

I was using her in main team for a bit

but I swapped out at some point

[swift mango]

Unlinked Mana could also work.

But harder

[shell hazel]

yeah I mean she's useful as burst gen type deal in my pvp teams with this investment I guess 😄

just gotta be wary of how high her atk is

I do have more cores on Noir, just got a lot of copies

[lunar pawn]

what can I use here? haven't pvp'd since forever

[coarse lake]

has anyone experienced weirdness with relying on vigor cube to get proper indom target

[lunar pawn]

anyone got the latest pvp calculator?

[oblique magnet]

a little late in the season to make a difference, but treasure helm has allowed me to take spot 3

[swift mango]

What's weird about that? My biscuit need vigor to out HP my Emi.

[tropic summit]

any of these
#pvp-arena message

or
https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[lunar pawn]

man

this channel lost all cooks

[tropic summit]

helm and lappy treasured?

i'm currently looking tho

[lunar pawn]

ofc

tried with this but all 3 lost

hella rusty

[tropic summit]

yeah i can see

helm s1 lvl 10 and stage 2?

[lunar pawn]

lvl 7 stage 3

no mats to push it further than that

[tropic summit]

uh ok 4RL will have to do

[swift mango]

If it's rookie you gain some point everytime you attack. Could find someone you could win and hit them.

If it's SpA it doesn't matter if you attack or not. Rank stay the same.

[tropic summit]

we've a bunch of choices, let's start with this one, attached is what we expecting to happen

[lunar pawn]

moran isn't built so that's out the window for now

[swift mango]

If you are only 100 level and has nothing you want to keep I would recommend reroll to get all these Collab characters. And not falling behind in progression.

[tropic summit]

do you've a rumani in there?

[lunar pawn]

nope, got a ssr selector, might get her in the future, but will be unbuilt even if I got her now

[kindred delta]

Thanks you!

[swift mango]

Is their Scarlet linked or not?

[lunar pawn]

how can I tell

[desert tundra]

Hi @tropic summit , using the 3 teams you built for me I've had great success in sp arena. I've picked up some of the nikke's mentioned in the wishlist since then, and I was wondering how to modify those teams with the nikkes.

[swift mango]

If you hit Scarlet and 3 character flash red same time getting same dmg number including P5 Jackal.

[lunar pawn]

aha, rosanna and scarlet are linked, yea

thinking emi team vs t3 at least, Idk the other 1

[swift mango]

Did their Scarlet died or able to burst?

[tropic summit]

check CP and record, just in case we missing funny CS% OL's on enemy side

if rosanna can 1hitko noise might be in trouble tho

would be nice having rumani available

[lunar pawn]

maybe?

[tropic summit]

no benefit from feed on T1, unless you know rapunzel is linked

[lunar pawn]

just want the gen, ik it's not linked

[tropic summit]

rosanna will hit noise and SBS, you expecting to burst with noise or rapu?

[lunar pawn]

gonna copy the teams you sent me first

[tropic summit]

yeah check CP like you did above

T2 from your side is interesting, although it depends on rosanna 1hitko RH, else you gonna have an indom RH wipe from enemy

T3 should be ok

emi will die 100%, elem weak

the real question is just RH living or not

[swift mango]

I could see team 1 lose to Indom on Centi. Or some sacc happened.

Team 2 lose because their Indom hit right on Emi or RH and your Rossana couldn't one shot them both.

Team 3 lose simple because ASS deal much least dmg than SBS.

[swift mango]

Emi won't die if Rossana having no Ele line.

[tropic summit]

it's x2 dmg on a hit that is generally half hp alone without crit and barely investiment 🤨

that'd have to be one hell of a bricked rosanna

[lunar pawn]

[tropic summit]

no CP deficit

teams look good, my only concern is T1 noise survivng

does she have doll SR15 and running vigor?

[swift mango]

? Ele base is only +10% dmg. They need Ele lines to kill Waters. Their team only have Jackal that could hit p2. If no counter happened from scarlet Emi would be pretty much 80-90% HP.

[lunar pawn]

SR15 doll on noise? do I look like a whale or pvp oriented player?

[tropic summit]

alright lemme phrase it better, what's ur doll lvl on noise and vigor cube lvl

[lunar pawn]

lvl 1 blue doll + vigor cube

[tropic summit]

jesus le christ

[lunar pawn]

lvl 8 vigor

[swift mango]

Did you lose?

[tropic summit]

he didn't even start yet

[shell hazel]

record em if you do them again

[lunar pawn]

why would I attack now, gotta snipe him

rapunzel has no doll, let me slap a blue one

[tropic summit]

ok let's run it safe

noah cind liter biscuit centi

other team unchanged

[swift mango]

I'm more interested with how team 2 goes.

[lunar pawn]

alright

wait, won't liter just feed his scar/jack much faster

[tropic summit]

you're face tanking it dw

it's unbuffed scar nuke, will tickle

also, rosanna should hit p1 and p2 which will receive biscuit s2

[lunar pawn]

only concern here is liter surviving to b1 lol

[tropic summit]

liter won't get hit, it's p1 and p2 getting hit by rosanna, since we running no attackers

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/boop-annie-murphy-alexis-alexis-rose-schitts-creek-gif-20853665

[swift mango]

Why liter though and Cindy p2...

If you wanted non taunter, just Rapu...

[tropic summit]

oh ok lemme take a look

[random tundra]

@final wedge check pvp

[lunar pawn]

[tropic summit]

you really wanna run without buffs?

he just said his rapu is also doll-less

[swift mango]

His scarlet team has absolutely zero defense.

And full of attacker.

[lunar pawn]

my rapu has lvl 0 blue doll I'll have you know

[tropic summit]

but the CP

[swift mango]

Would die with just a touch.

[tropic summit]

and that's what we doing

[whole pawn]

rail
I think as soon as reset comes, I should go for chal 8 and wait 11 h and monitor it, or maybe I should climb to chal 7 using all attempts

[tropic summit]

why'd you need healing from rapu

[final wedge]

Lmao i just about to inform u

[tropic summit]

attacking too soon ch7-ch8 is gonna get you ninjaed, hit ch9 or ch10 remember

[final wedge]

He manage to break thru

[swift mango]

No need buffer...

You would need to check if Cindy p2 and liter would feed them to 0.5rl faster than Doppel team. I rather not went through the Hassel.

[whole pawn]

mmmm ok I will hit chal 9 after reset and save the 1 attempt for later

[lunar pawn]

I also gotta update my defense later

[swift mango]

Liter could also suicide to Scarlet counter.

It suck.

[tropic summit]

they already hitting 2.5RL regardless, look at that amount of SGS

[tropic summit]

yeah that T3 is concerning

[swift mango]

That's not natural 2.5rl....

[tropic summit]

@lunar pawn do me a favour so blood gives it a rest

noah cind rapu biscuit centi, feedless, buffless full tanky

[lunar pawn]

why rapu over noise?

[tropic summit]

noise can taunt p1 and p2, if she's squishy af say bye bye to your only b1

[shell hazel]

heal + jesus res

[lunar pawn]

only 1 I'm concerned that might die is b1, so pointless

[swift mango]

Need to check your CS...

[shell hazel]

with rapunzel in the middle she shouldn't die

[swift mango]

If noise equal to or faster CS than Noah then she won't taunt.

[tropic summit]

doll-less rapu surely can tank an unbuffed scarlet nuke with a vigor cube

[shell hazel]

we pray for her

[lunar pawn]

noah 12.63% CS
noise 6.9% CS

[tropic summit]

ok noise gets taunt priority

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

That's bad

[tropic summit]

blue doll noise massive yolo

yeah go noah cind rapu biscuit centi

there's enough RNG as is already in that

[lunar pawn]

so stick to liter and hopium she gets her b1 off before enemy gets his b3?

[keen vapor]

Help, I need more RL purple dolls

[tropic summit]

liter has more RNG due to counters

[swift mango]

It could be good if run a def team without Biscuit and want Noah survive....

[tropic summit]

albeit better CP and stats

[lunar pawn]

mm then rapu

[tropic summit]

aye

[swift mango]

But need 2rl speed to be safe.

[tropic summit]

look at where noah is in their nikke box

[lunar pawn]

no deficit at least

[tropic summit]

2nd page, near anis

[random tundra]

man's on a mission LMAO

[lunar pawn]

yea

[swift mango]

You may want Cindy to p3 or 4, even 5.

P2 is pretty bad.

[tropic summit]

yep, you want biscuit there, absolutely

[lunar pawn]

I'm a pve player

[tropic summit]

that's alright don't worry

[swift mango]

Only 5 minutes left to reset, move Cindy to p3 and push the button

[shell hazel]

and record it :p

[lunar pawn]

why move cindy

[tropic summit]

i'd say stick with those teams for now, once scarlet and jackal are a bit more invested we could put them to good use

[swift mango]

Cindy p2 give them more burst gen

[tropic summit]

cindy in p1 gives enemy 1.75x burst gen, cindy in p2 gives enemy 1.25x burst gen

but your choice would be to drop either biscuit or rapu in p2

[desert tundra]

tyvm

[umbral belfry]

incoming

[lunar pawn]

so like this? I only need biscuit to protect noah once

[swift mango]

Like I said, only their Jackal hit p2. If they could kill anyone, that jackal must be god.

[tropic summit]

for once, we're the ones doing the snipe

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

yeah looks good

wait

@swift mango you want biscuit to be hit by rosanna?

that was the whole reason of cindy in p2

[swift mango]

Rossana hit 2 highest attack. Nothing to do with position

She is MG...

[glad meteor]

That’s s1

[lunar pawn]

going in soon

[swift mango]

Her normal attack hit p1.

[glad meteor]

Burst hit 2 attackers. Or position / taunt orientated

[tropic summit]

that's s.anis, rosanna is based on class type

[swift mango]

Only 2 minutes left wtf why not hitting?

[umbral belfry]

2 mins

[tropic summit]

noah cind rapu biscuit centi

record and go

it is time for judgement.

[umbral belfry]

[random tundra]

I cant even hit him back in rookie cuz he fed me too many points

[swift mango]

Even if she hit Biscuit it would be fine.

[tropic summit]

probably

[swift mango]

Come just hit it.

[tropic summit]

would've already triggered s2 on noah i guess

[keen vapor]

Reset

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

Maybe dude didn't have any attack left so he keeps asking.

[tropic summit]

now for the 🍿

[swift mango]

[lunar pawn]

t1 and t3 won

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

ez

where's video tho, i wanna see the facetank

[lunar pawn]

I did kill emilia in t2 but then rh cooked my entire team

[umbral belfry]

successful

[swift mango]

Yeah that's the normal case.

[tropic summit]

for T2 you need an indom p1 or a stall p1 + biscuit

which we had already used in T1 and T3

nice try although

[swift mango]

Sacc could win but need to die fast enough and a clip RL to make it 2rl team.

[tropic summit]

@lunar pawn didn't record? what am I gonna do with my 🍿

[lunar pawn]

sponsor me

[swift mango]

Pretty sure Doppel used today attempt rather than yesterday.

[tropic summit]

OBS + video converter to reduce size, but oh well, we'll never get to see it

[swift mango]

And scarlet not died fast enough in team 2.

[tropic summit]

nah match result is published the moment you click on launching it

if you click at 1 min prior to reset, even if video hasn't stopped playing, result is already uploaded

[tropic summit]

oh shiet it's here

[swift mango]

Nah man, it result when you finished loading. I did hit at :59 the other day and 1 minutes load made it the next day attempt.

[tropic summit]

@swift mango what I tell ya

[lunar pawn]

rapunzel was never touched lol

[tropic summit]

biscuit was sacrificed to the blood gods

[swift mango]

It fine even if she died. She served her purpose

[tropic summit]

so cruel

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

we could've spared her that sad fate

on the other hand, the indom was fairly close 🤨

[swift mango]

Could be worse, Blanc could have died.

[tropic summit]

yeah that was an option

blanc could use a SR15 dollerino asap

[lunar pawn]

not really close, emilia by default has less hp than rh so even if it might look close it's not that much

[tropic summit]

oh alrighty you already knew

[lunar pawn]

and even in the offcase rh gets indom, t3 didn't have biscuit

[tropic summit]

all gud then

[swift mango]

Or just equip her with tempering...

[lunar pawn]

oh emi had lvl 15 blue doll

let me upgrade to sr5 real quick

[swift mango]

Well, if RH got Indom and Emi burst then you would lose.

RH normal attack wouldn't clear their teams.

[lunar pawn]

rh could only get indom if emi died, so that wouldn't happen

[swift mango]

Well, if your Hp already calculated then it's the case. Blanc is more prompt to ded though.

[lunar pawn]

yea I usually run her with biscuit only

lvl 0 blue doll

[tropic summit]

makes sense, you'd never bother then

[lunar pawn]

now, I just need to remake my defense

it's the same since like 6 months ago or smth

[tropic summit]

fix that T3 if anything, T1 is fine, T2 could get tuned

[lunar pawn]

think I only switched 1 nikke when xmaiden came out

[swift mango]

My Crown got one shoot by Alice at 30% deficit and 65 lv gapped.

Biscuit? What's that?

[tropic summit]

oh i gave this to susy earlier, you can also use it as you've got most of everything

#pvp-arena message

should make decent reference

[tropic summit]

65 lvls ahead leviathan

[lunar pawn]

I see, will update it when I get rumani and finish maxing helm

will prob use the selector if I don't get her during my rei rolls

what's helm burst gen like at s1 lvl 10?

clip rl?

[swift mango]

1.5 a clip RL.

[tropic summit]

even better than any clip RL in fact, her own tier

[swift mango]

So she is worse than a clip RL vs Cindy p1.

[lunar pawn]

how does that work?

[swift mango]

And 3 times better and clip RL vs Empty p2.

[lunar pawn]

thought cindy p1/p2 gave the enemy more gen?

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

yeah but she's a sniper rifle, won't splash hence won't hit decoy and p2

SR don't benefit from p1 cindy due to that

@lunar pawn for reference you can hit 1RL because of enemy cindy in p1

[lunar pawn]

so basically cindy in p1 or p2 is almost a free win

[whole pawn]

@tropic summit I took chal 9 but IG he will take it xd , I think of he does I will go for chal 10 instead maybe

[swift mango]

P1/2 give RL more burst gen... x1.75/1.25 to normal RL. And x1.50/1.133 to Emi.

[tropic summit]

yeah sounds good wait it out now

[lunar pawn]

oh I see your point now, you're comparing burst gen

[swift mango]

There is also SR named Nihister... Who could hit p1-2 like a RL ...

[lunar pawn]

who even uses her nowadays

maybe niichan with his mlb nihilister

[swift mango]

I used her as Sacc once.

But using SR Anis now... Because she Regen much more...

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

[eager mountain]

New def got a win, gonna see how it rolls

[swift mango]

But SR Anis with full OL and being a defender is much harder to be killed though...

[eager mountain]

technically, helm is attacker battery, tho comes with sr15 dmg reduction

[whole pawn]

quick question because i forgor, when I attack a def, the burst ligne of the defender starts from right to left ?

[tropic summit]

from left to right yes

[whole pawn]

mmm

[swift mango]

Left to right of preparation screen. When you go into the fight the enemy will burst from right to left.

[eager mountain]

p7 noah

[tropic summit]

@whole pawn

[whole pawn]

I see... I think I misunderstood it with the fact that the unit from right attacks the left somehow,

[tropic summit]

oh come on that's clearly a 5

[swift mango]

But you prepare for the fight in the preparation screen so it's meaningless to care about the flip effect of the actual fight.

[whole pawn]

oh... so the changes is only when u start mmm

[whole pawn]

the flip confused me a bit

[swift mango]

Just when you look at another standing face to face in front of you. Their left hand is on your right.

Enemies still burst from left to right but their left is not yours.

[eager mountain]

p5 taunting p1p2 should make their rl travel path shorter

[swift mango]

P5 taunting same CS Noah+Noise would make Noise steal taunt from Noah.

[eager mountain]

rail still pushing hard?

[swift mango]

@tropic summit

I'm waiting 361... 351 now.

Almost there

[eager mountain]

i have the temptation to hack ur acc just to clear it and then log out

[tropic summit]

eh i've hit a wall, considering even Retro is still at just 2 stages ahead in same hard mode chapter it gives me reassurance if anything

i'm 341 and he's on 361

[eager mountain]

23-19 is that hard?

[tropic summit]

hmm i've gotten very close to beat it, but timing seems off

gotta land better my MGs on glasses

[eager mountain]

i only remember 23-21 being BS, forgor about 23-19 completely

[swift mango]

I remember you started 1 month before me... Why you still 341

Maybe Echo symptoms is spreading.

[tropic summit]

well technically i could be around 356

holding off just to get those 2 extra stages in, but might aswell use em

still got these leftovers

i don't think i'll wait another 30+ days just for the next 2 chapters 🤔

[swift mango]

Yeah, Echo symptom is spreading.

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor what have you done

[eager mountain]

ch23-27 silly chapters that pretty much all walls are mobs
and this extends to ch30 since cindy is now a thing

[keen vapor]

Finished campaign

[tropic summit]

oh today?

did you open already le boxes?

[keen vapor]

Yeh

I think I like Levi

[eager mountain]

🤔 its prob mid-late april so 2 months

[tropic summit]

safe to say i can open them then

[keen vapor]

I want to protect her

[eager mountain]

tho earliest could be 3 weeks before 2.5 anni

[eager mountain]

which can become early april

but i dont think thats a good scheduling for them

thus i suspect mid april the most

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Bet you still have 1000 boxes at least.

[keen vapor]

Mother Whale

[swift mango]

I will take a go at mother whale when my HelmT maxed out or lv361.

[tropic summit]

why helmT for whale tho? 🤔

[eager mountain]

helm burst does nothing there

and stages doesnt change ur cp

[swift mango]

Max out mean 101010 skill... Her burst still deal good dmg.

[eager mountain]

it deals good elem dmg against non core non part bosses

[swift mango]

Still good even with core, not like her dmg went anywherr

Idk if my Emi could help there.... But wait to 361 first

[eager mountain]

helm is simply not a MW b3

[swift mango]

Not like I depend on her DPS to beat MW just could try. Main point is CP from skill upgrade.

[eager mountain]

yeah just dont bother bursting as her against MW

[random tundra]

@final wedge check pvp

[swift mango]

Your MLB is sad Xmica because you protected her and locked her to the bench.

[swift mango]

Try to see if you could hit 361

Look at those battle data too

[tropic summit]

oh bd and credits are fine, it's red dust that is concerning

then again from 350+ it costs even more iirc, so probably can't hit 361

[swift mango]

I mean you could exchange BD for Core.

[shell hazel]

guy in 2nd was sync 250 yesterday, today 255

[tropic summit]

lawl he comin'

[shell hazel]

haha at 261 I dare say he can - I still have more CP in the teams than him

[tropic summit]

as long as he doesn't unleash le wallet

[shell hazel]

he's been getting levels quicker than me for a while suspect buying CD

[vapid lake]

i have become a wall sorta

the people who have been relying on cp gap to beat me have been exposed

[tropic summit]

that's a lot of ppl that want your ch2

[vapid lake]

now i'm higher level than them can't gap me anymore

[shell hazel]

my cindy OL are looking a bit better, I need more rocks to mald it some more (still missing ammo)

I got 2 line 1 DEF to roll off at some point

is that all your nikke or are any hidden after the last row?

[umbral crown]

You too

I did it

[shell hazel]

best to show anyway in case

[tropic summit]

you wanna take this chance cooking this @shell hazel ? feel free to ask me questions/tips

[shell hazel]

I do not think I know enough here still, and to be honest some units I don't actually even have 😄

[tropic summit]

oki

[shell hazel]

s.anis, laplace treasure, for example, it's hard to cook up a team for that kind of thing

[tropic summit]

hmm cuz you lack self experience i guess

(by not owning them)

[shell hazel]

I guess you'd go usual scar/jack for 1 team and noah/cindy for another?

[tropic summit]

yeah he can definitely run that

he has most core pvp units too

t1 and t3 are fine, t2 could use an update

helm and laplace treasured? helmT is stage 2 and skill 1 is lvl 10?

you'd need 17%, but it does help in part

any other nikke you've 17%CS total on? especially rumani, centi, jackal or anis

probably last question, s.anis burst skill is lvl 9 and she has no ammo OL correct? @faint sphinx

oke doke, looks good

noah biscuit rapu**(rouge)** s.anis laplace - until you've rapunzel ready, can use rouge instead
noise centi cind helm rumani
scarlet blanc rh xmaiden jackal

cubes

quantum on rumani, jackal, centi
temperance on noah
vigor on biscuit, rapu(rouge), blanc, noise
resil on s.anis
any other nikke run highest lvl cube available

notes: try to reach teams in the table to the right

[whole pawn]

I lost chal 9 and now I m dia 1 xd

[tropic summit]

wow

what's ur 3 def teams atm?

[whole pawn]

I think it's one of those that used to be in chal and dropped

I should put Alice elsewhere maybe

[tropic summit]

oh right T3 cp gap and 2 meta teams, well dayum they're not even bad minus lack of cindy buff perhaps (noise)

i guess you're just cooked, nothing else to do

reclaim ch8-ch9-ch10 in around a few hours imo then pray

[shell hazel]

cp is veering on the low side on those teams

[whole pawn]

how many hours I should wait? not sur ei can even stay long

[tropic summit]

yeah we talked about that extensively yesterday

[tropic summit]

hmm risky would be in 1-2hrs, a bit safer in perhaps 8-10hrs

[shell hazel]

yeah 🙂

[whole pawn]

for centi , rumani , blanc , what are their skill lvl priority?

[tropic summit]

let's just finger cross next reshuffle is kind on you

[whole pawn]

2k gems I think

[lunar dirge]

far from mine wall

[shell hazel]

I hope it yeets the mini-whale out of my group as I think he just wants to buy victory 😄

[tropic summit]

centi 4/4/4
rumani 4/4/4
blanc 4/4/7 or 4/4/10, in your case stick to 4/4/4

what you need the most is CP and that's mostly coming from OL

[tropic summit]

yours is not a wall, that's a full fledged titan

[whole pawn]

biscuit?

[tropic summit]

same, 4/4/4, they're all fairly good on budget in terms of skills

[whole pawn]

nvm 4 4 4

[shell hazel]

I got Scarlet to 7/4/7 btw

[whole pawn]

well not sure if I should ol them , I only have 8 rocks and I m trying to save them so I can look for ol stats on pve

[shell hazel]

basic OL trust

[tropic summit]

yeah focus on PvE, dia1 on his own is not too bad, 2.1k gems

[whole pawn]

as for jackal?

[shell hazel]

1 rock per piece - worth it

[tropic summit]

same as the others

arguably you could raise jackal s3 to get more dmg output on very specific nikke, like xmaiden burst

but i wouldn't, you're already tight on resources

[shell hazel]

my CP at 241 so a few levels lower

[whole pawn]

i barely have ressources for s3

[shell hazel]

because I OL noise/centi etc a bit

naga and cindy not really wasted there either as part of my PVE crew

[whole pawn]

mmmm bro has less syncro than me and his team has more cp

[tropic summit]

yep...

[shell hazel]

my centi is 37k cp and noise 40k

not really gone into the dolls on them either, mostly 4/4/4 skills

you get a lot of value out of OL chests on the pvp units in particular

I split focus a bit so in general I am getting my campaign units with OL as well I'm not ignoring them, but if they're all at least on basic OL gear I'll OL some alt units especially the pvp ones atm

for dolls I pushed cindy and RH to SR-15 recently and will do the same for Rapi when I can, but I can equip pvp units with basic dolls at least

getting units in my teams to 4/4/4 skills isn't too insane either, some want more but I deal with them as they come up

you can see where my investments went but all the dolls need attention really - I try and keep this relatively up to date helps me see what I need to OL next and what AI boss to farm

orange = OL is done (and rock applied). blue = can be OL

[whole pawn]

mmmm so u are saying ur cp mostly comes from u dps, show me ur Cindy and noir cp, along with naga

[shell hazel]

working on Naga gloves atm, will be OL those next, day or two away need fodder

I mentioned it earlier but I haven't actually touched Noir in a bit, months even, I used to run her in main team but stopped a while ago. I just run her here because I had already invested into her and she's decent enough to use as is

[whole pawn]

mmm

I m 247 yet my Cindy cp is lower by +13 k

[shell hazel]

it's because my OL lines and doll prob

doll added a lot when I maxed it

[whole pawn]

max doll?

yeah I m so bricked xd

[shell hazel]

plus mine is MLB (I went for this specifically as I liked her and I started on her banner)

yeah it's max doll - SR-15 on cindy and RH

I figure they are my main DPS in campaign and main DPS in pvp as well

all my pvp units don't have more than R-0 dolls really except for Scarlet (who I focused on a bit) and Helm who I wanted for both pvp / pve + fav item

[umbral crown]

Hola.amigo

[shell hazel]

:DorothyRatDance:

[whole pawn]

I need a lot of work, bricked me

[shell hazel]

once your team comps are fixed just upgrade your weakest team a bit with OL each time, that's what I've done

I didn't start with even alright teams they had garbage CP to begin with 😄

[whole pawn]

where are u now in story?

[whole pawn]

I lack a lot of units, including noise

[shell hazel]

prob similar to you - sec

I do have crown which obv helps here

[whole pawn]

u still pissed hard, I m still at 14 hard boss

[shell hazel]

crown carry some of it though for sure

you probably already are but wishlist the missing pvp units for certain as well

[whole pawn]

u probably gonna overrun me

[shell hazel]

where are you up to?

in normal campaign

[whole pawn]

32 boss, don't have crown, and u probably gonna have more cp than I do

[shell hazel]

320K~

OL Naga closer to 325K maybe

[tired blade]

Wsp I'm for asking wht good unit for PVP

[whole pawn]

mine is 285k

33% deficit

[shell hazel]

[whole pawn]

u see how bricked I am

[shell hazel]

yeah it's not possible, I need more as well

MC doesn't mess about

[whole pawn]

but still u will clear it before me

[whole shell]

huh?

[whole pawn]

with lower syncro lvl obviously

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[tired blade]

Guys some help her wht is the unit you use in PVP

[tropic summit]

check above, click on it, it has 3 variations you can try copying

[shell hazel]

when did you start playing?

you should see what I did to my crown to get her more CP 😄

[whole pawn]

mmmm

18 august 2024

[shell hazel]

3 line OL supremacy, black line CS that does nothing

[whole pawn]

once u do mc tell me

[shell hazel]

that's actually quite a bit before me, I started start of Nov

was it Nov? when we had Cindy banner

[whole pawn]

yeah..but u have MLB Cindy and crown

[shell hazel]

or was that earlier

[whole pawn]

not sure what I did wrong, probably shouldn't play on this acc tho

[whole pawn]

November 1

[shell hazel]

yeah I started then

I started with RH and Cindy (re-rolled a few times we had like 60 pulls for free to do) and didn't get Crown until chapter 20 odd

[whole pawn]

started after me yet gonna overrun me, how tables turns

[shell hazel]

malded campaign that much harder maybe

I haven't been buying up CD for levels

[whole pawn]

sigh

I should stop malding again and just do my dailies and log off,doesn't seem worth it

[shell hazel]

so within a month I was at MW 😄

ah so yeah I was still running Noir then

didn't get Crown until later it seems

[whole pawn]

mmmm

I don't think I was malding campain

I reached mother whale on November too

so it took me 3 months to reach mw, which is because I didn't mald it

[shell hazel]

[whole pawn]

2 months just wasted, probably because I didn't take it seriously, was waiting for it to be easy

bricked indeed

[shell hazel]

it got a lot harder after that

[whole pawn]

my life is full of bad decisions

[shell hazel]

22 was easy enough, 25 onwards really ramped up the difficulty I had to wait quite a bit as well

tbh it doesn't matter - it's an idle game, you can fix your pvp up some, chapter 32 will eventually die (and there aren't that many chapters after it)

if you put some effort into the pvp side and OL your core units and things I think you could safely sit at chal 10 and just take home 2k gems at least, and maybe push higher from there if you want

for MC you might need 261 so you got time to do stuff

what is the chapter 14 boss again? for hard mode

[whole pawn]

investing on pvp might brick my PvE, investing on pve might brick my pvp

take ur drug

[whole pawn]

I forgor, I can't beat it now

might wait for 15% deficit

or crown

[shell hazel]

there was a stupid one - is it the frame thing?

[whole pawn]

idk, and idc, because I m gonna take a break from campaign for at least a month

once I have 20% deficit I will try again

[shell hazel]

alright, if it's the one I was thinking of

you could cheese it a bit by not shooting the ground tower and then it does barely any damage

material H

[whole pawn]

probably not the same boss, but ok

[lunar pawn]

@tropic summit dude attacked me again, beat him again, same defense

I tweaked mine a bit though

[tropic summit]

wanna share it?

(if you'd like feedback)

[lunar pawn]

sure, let me just finish up ai

[tropic summit]

single buff scarlet might be too little pressure, other 2 teams are decent

your rosanna wasn't built enough?

[umbral belfry]

no biters for a while

surely I don't get jumped on the last day

[tropic summit]

wouldn't matter much

you've survived this season flawlessly

[umbral belfry]

points wise, but for reshuffle

[tropic summit]

mhm

keep your eyes peeled

[umbral belfry]

or maybe I get c2 and the other guy gets isekaid

[tropic summit]

the dream

[umbral belfry]

it's a win win

freedom

[shell hazel]

how do the reshuffles usually work?

[lunar pawn]

she's decent I guess, she can 1 shot emilia

[tropic summit]

7/10/10 with 20-30atk% and she can threaten p1 and attackers in general

could consider her if your def fails

[lunar pawn]

yea not sure how to move what I currently have to improve the 2nd team....but scarlet has 2 buffs, anne+maiden

[tropic summit]

the buff is applied only to damage after burst, not the nuke itself

it's the same with s.anis buff to elec code nikke

[lunar pawn]

maiden buffs when entering b1

not FB

and yea, might build rosanna in the future a lil bit

[white compass]

Is Treasure Helm worth optimizing OL or just OL once?

[lunar pawn]

she's full OL lvl 2-3 or something, and I think 4/7/7

[white compass]

Any easy bench marks like charge speed % or nah

[tropic summit]

CP helps regardless, 4 OL lvl0 works

[tropic summit]

oh curious, ima go test it I never actually paid attention to that 🤔

[eager mountain]

she’s also pretty good for pve so rolling for 2nd line first isn’t a bad idea

[white compass]

Charge speed ele atk?

Team benefits from Helm reloading often so no ammo right

Or is ammo outweighing those benefits

[eager mountain]

Ye 3 cs, 5+ of ele atk, ele better for pvp, atk better for pvp cuz water

[eager mountain]

That’s the tricky part, it depends on team and other reload buffs

[shell hazel]

I'd say 1 ammo roll isn't bricking her

she has a bigger clip she can do more damage in bursts and such

[white compass]

Hmm guess I won't specifically hunt for ammo then

[shell hazel]

if you get a roll it's fine I think, 1 roll may even be better than 0

2 rolls is probably too many 😛

[eager mountain]

Ammo mainly benefits her as elem dps b3

As an off-burst, she’s likely better off without ammo if there any other reload speed buff present

[tropic summit]

@lunar pawn it doesn't seem like it buffs nuke dmg (especially the second row, exactly same damage)

test was: start shooting range, hit burst with jackal alone, go straight into nuke, record damage

the sample bias on the top row left is probably due to counter RNG

the second row seems pretty conclusive 🤔

[eager mountain]

🤔

[lunar pawn]

is your maiden built? seems weird, since she would buff ele dmg + atk right after b1 goes off, so scarlet should be buffed when she bursts

[tropic summit]

she's budget built but any skill level would influence the damage output

if anything it shouldn't be exactly equal

[lunar pawn]

then it's a bug

[tropic summit]

we've got 2 exact scores with and without xmaiden, it's safe to assume she doesn't

i mean you can test it on your own if you want to, but it really looks like it doesn't matter 🤔

[eager mountain]

its FB buff not B1 buff

[lunar pawn]

unless there's a different wording in the original KR or JP text

[raven plover]

isnt it FB buff

[lunar pawn]

read her skills

[raven plover]

[eager mountain]

entering B1 doesnt "replenishes" her mp but "recovers".
and only the former triggers s2 buff, tecnically

they use 2 different terminology for that

[tropic summit]

text aside, the test seems pretty conclusive unless i'm missing something

[eager mountain]

they just made it unnecessary complex

even if she gives 20% caster buff during first b1 it wont make her broken in pvp

[tropic summit]

well agreed, reading nikke skills is giving me headaches

[eager mountain]

thats 14% atk caster buff equivlent, 1/5-1/6 of RH burst buff

[tropic summit]

on a defender instead of an attacker

so probably even worse 🤔

(attack stat is lower)

[eager mountain]

attacker has 150% of defender atk so 20% to 14%ish from there

[eager mountain]

tho there are flat attack stats like cube, doll and recycle room, so its higher then 13.3333%, but no major diff

🤔 gear stats are role dependent but i didnt check if it scales exactly like their base stat

[whole pawn]

I m gonna sleep , knowing that I m dia 1 and challengers above me waiting me to strike so they can strike back

[eager mountain]

yeah the atk part scales identically, same applies to affinity

base atk stat ratio would be 4:5:6 def:sup:atk

hp diff isnt as nearly big, and def is character dependent not role dependent, for instance crown has low def thus low base cp

[hollow lagoon]

Question, if I use Cinderella and helm, does Cinderella’s burst take into account of helm’s skill2?

Oh sad

[quick lake]

xmaiden doesnt buff nuke dmg

nor does SAnis for cindy

[wise horizon]

Unfortunate outcome

[lunar pawn]

mm I see the wording is different, man

but yea, my options are limited for my 2nd team, so maybe I'll hold off on an update until rei rolls in a few days

[eager mountain]

ran a test to be certain, tho made a mistake, but same conclusion, it still wont buff cindy burst

[tropic summit]

oh didn't even hit B1 🤔

[lunar pawn]

then I'll just select rumani if I don't roll her

[hollow lagoon]

Thanks

[eager mountain]

nikke skill description be like that

[lunar pawn]

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

looks like this should do the job

for the emilia it can also be laplace+ if she's higher CP, we broke link in that last matchup because RH and laplace+ have higher atk% than scarlet

using liter should fix that

as for the T2 it will hit them before they hit you, should win the trade afterward

[whole shell]

rough that rumani ate ros nuke

[eager mountain]

btw for omega buffed nuke atk set up, helm + crown can be a thing, dont think other batteries does that

[tropic summit]

overestimated it myself tbh, should've ran cindy in p2 afterall

[eager mountain]

since helm triggers crown s2, and s2 is half of a major buff

[whole shell]

wouldn't emi instead of rh be better?

maintains 3RL speed while baiting ros nuke away

[tropic summit]

yeah that's another option for T1

with no attackers ross in p3 will hit p1 and p2, as long as it's either bait or a tanky p2 it would work

rumani just wasn't tanky enough or lucky crit 🤔

[whole shell]

oof that rosy is linked

so emi splash won't get rid of concealment

[tropic summit]

yeah it's a properly thought-over team

it's actually less expensive just leaving it alone at this point

[whole shell]

I mean, I'd much rather use a buffer B2 to ensure that scarlet actually does her job properly which is to nuke...

[quick lake]

Time to replace scarlet

[whole shell]

real

[vapid lake]

give me ur scarlet i'll take good care of her

[whole shell]

sure I'll just remove one of my limit breaks on scarlet and give it to you

[raven plover]

give me harran dupe just incase her treasure coming in the future

[tropic summit]

wow, rumani on steroids

black line + blue line and the blue line is even CS%

[quick lake]

super cp padded

[tropic summit]

4.92% + 4.92% + 5.51%

[quick lake]

15%

[tropic summit]

damn gotta still get 1 more CS OL 🤔

[quick lake]

15% is bare minimum to enter B1 before enemy B3

[tropic summit]

gonna have to touch this piece

maybe lock 3rd line and yolo 1st and 2nd line

got the wrong kind of charge

oh wow

what a beauty

alright rumani is done

4.92 + 4.92 + 4.04 + 5.51 = 19%

took me a total of 14 rocks, damn lucky

[quick lake]

That’s pretty crazy

[tropic summit]

burned out on a lot of luck here i fear

next up i should try to get jackal to 17%

[quick lake]

Slow and steady

[tropic summit]

yep... although too much emotion for today, will keep going tomorrow

[dire root]

That's strange, did something on their team give stun immunity? Prvi activated her burst and was alive at the end of the animation. She lived for like 5 seconds after animation done but no stun.

Missiles blocked I guess

[tropic summit]

i've little exprience with Ade, but might be this

debuf immunity

[dire root]

Yeah sucks I may have won if the stun worked.

[tropic summit]

if i'm reading it right, that'd be a direct counter to privaty which relies on stunning

[dire root]

blocking a stun is a pretty amazing skill\

[tropic summit]

well privaty usage gets limited the more you'll climb in synch

she's good early while ppl don't have access to noah and scarlet

[whole shell]

Mhm

[dire root]

I just put her in the 3rd team since she is a good burst III for PVP assuming it goes off and isn't blocked.

[whole shell]

Honestly, you could probably make a way better team than what you used here

[tropic summit]

yep, just beware of noah and ade i guess (and avoid using her against scarlet)

[dire root]

Probably? Yeah I just wish I had more meta pvp units.

[whole shell]

Was this sp or rookie?

Oh its sp

Red arena

[dire root]

SP. Rookie is a joke, I guess they put me in a bracket of much weaker players or no one even bothers with rooke since I just effortlessly smash through everyone in rookie.

I either have combat power advantage or were matched and my nikkes smash their worse Nikkes.

[dire root]

Now that I look at my rooster idk about that.

May be best for Anis to just replace someone in team 3 for the extra burst generation.

[upper grove]

rookie is w/e, it's actually better to put throw away teams there so they cannot practice beating a team in SP

[whole shell]

Team 3 can be D:KW/Neon/Bay/Privaty/Anis

Team is 3RL and should work fine against most teams except for that ade team

In which case, just swap the team order around to use it against a different team

Meta is important, but so is knowing how to teambuild with what you have and how to counter specific comps

[brazen nova]

pls help me build a pvp team pls 😭

im from top 1 rookie to 10 real quick because my team suck

[whole shell]

What was your previous team?

[brazen nova]

on rookie arena i just press auto 😦

[whole shell]

Mmmm, no wonder

[brazen nova]

other arena i manage to get to diamond 1

[whole shell]

Noise/Rapunzel/Maid Anchor/Cinderella/Anis

Can swap Cinderella for SBS as well

Do not use that team, too slow

[keen vapor]

Classic

[whole shell]

Noise/Maid Anchor/Cinderella/Anis/Maiden

Alt team: Noise/Rapunzel/Maid Anchor/SBS/Anis(this one is fine)

[brazen nova]

nice thanks

[brazen nova]

cp from 130 to 91, is that ok?

[umbral belfry]

this is just a cp pad team, but crown's p high higher than some of these units here. but does liter or mana go in replace of her?

[umbral belfry]

i assume liter since mana can be insurance?

[whole shell]

Whichever one gives you more cp is the one you should use

[umbral belfry]

oh wait it can't be liter, no b3 then

[keen vapor]

~~Rapi ~~

[umbral belfry]

my mana burst isn't leveled at all

[limber rampart]

Can i win this?

[fathom rock]

Helm treasured?

[keen vapor]

Must be

[fathom rock]

Not that it matters enemy in deficit rapunzel and moran ded

But t2

[fathom rock]

I think it would be hilarious if t2 managed to cindy burst just from biscuit invul alone, would be safe and make that team faster

Their t1 wont burst thats for sure

Is 3rl best scenario and you if helm treasure you 2rl

While id say sbs wont kill fast enough and would die enemy is at a stat deficit

[hot birch]

how to win this?

[quick lake]

Whale vs whale

[fathom rock]

2rl scar nuke is the easiest win there is
You can also go for 3.5rl-4rl noah biscuit

[brazen nova]

i mean auto team are 130k and Noise/Rapunzel/Maid Anchor/SBS/Anis are 90k

btw do rookie pvp give me anything?
i just need more gem

otherwise i dont really care

[fathom rock]

Rookie give you vouchers only

[whole shell]

Rookie gives you more arena tickets, which you can use to buy elemental skill books

[brazen nova]

oh i see

[hot birch]

peanut size brain here. please explain

[fathom rock]

Use scar/xanne/emilia or a built helm treasure lv10 s1/centi/jackal

Faster than their team, scar wipe emilia and rh before they even burst

[hot birch]

thanks i will try 🫡

[fathom rock]

Make sure ypu are in cp range first

[hot birch]

what the closes i can get a shot in?

[coarse lake]

looking for vids of cindy nuke vs 1rl slower bay post-eva patch

[fathom rock]

1,216,531 is safe

[whole shell]

Make sure you aren't under 1210808 cp

You can just do opponent cp * 84.6% to find out the minimum you need to hit to avoid deficit penalty

[grim nymph]

Hello Commanders, it's been a bit since I've come here and I've filled out more of my roster and would love some advice optimizing my teams.

[mighty haven]

@limber patrol can't win against the whales

[livid rover]

https://fixvx.com/ibukiyoru/status/1893237602825748913?t=ki-3QKdvFFYKqDgnWZYMQg&s=19

Is it legit

[tulip quest]

Will Champion Arena come? what if shift up Realized champions Arena = more gems for the poor what happens

[quick lake]

I dont think there’s a strongest team

[tulip quest]

OKAY Now he started Gemming for first when he ridiculed me for gemming for top 3 also LOL Ironic

okay 1 question can you taunt S.Anis burst?

never really used her in pvp

[swift mango]

Look good but still very beatable.

[rich quail]

It’s possible with 2 taunters

Like Noise and Noah

[tulip quest]

Alright

[rich quail]

With one, one of the sparklies will target the taunter

I forgot what the other sparkly will target

[tulip quest]

highest dps maybe

[rich quail]

2 taunters against S.Anis is a recommended counter

[tulip quest]

Thanks

[swift mango]

Or just ScarJack it

[eager mountain]

no real reason to not run scar def

[tulip quest]

Anis Sparkling Summer - Did shiftup just name her AS S?

[eager mountain]

some ppl call her ASS

[swift mango]

I call her ASS

[swift mango]

Well, Rossanna attack

[eager mountain]

...

but shes not ass

[swift mango]

She is.

[tulip quest]

Yea she's a good character Just dunno if shiftup was cooking on Acronyms or Meme or something

[eager mountain]

whatever u say

[tulip quest]

Even the translation was deliberately translated as Butt Ugly as a joke to Anis

chap 35-36

[eager mountain]

new ch seems to have more translation issues

[tulip quest]

I watch too much anime that almost anything japanese they say auto translated in my head already

[bleak shale]

I called her ass from the start cuz I thought it was funny, some other people were saying sanis but I think I converted a bunch of people

There was another one I saw summer helm as HAM

[tulip quest]

Ham means?

[bleak shale]

Helm aqua marine = ham

[tulip quest]

oH

[swift mango]

I won't use this

[outer grail]

does anyone knows which nikkes between anchor innocent and maiden ice rose who has more burst generation?

with quantum cube

[vapid lake]

xmaiden

[swift mango]

My preservation paid off.

Good bye hit rate, welcome CS!

[outer grail]

congrats, you are really lucky getting best lines

[swift mango]

You made yourself blue but I won't keep you, hit rate.

[swift mango]

Thx

[oblique magnet]

woo, finally got anchor maid ~ but building new nikkes is suffering

[wild badge]

preservation?

[coarse lake]

If anyone is interested

I was right on cindy fix, they only fixed snapshot ignoring invuln

Both bay snapshots still work as before

Still need to test if biscuit s2 can proc in-between nuke hits to save defender, ping me if vid

But my assumption is yes

[tropic summit]

taking a look

can you confirm if your helm is treasured and has reached stage 2, with skill 1 lvl 10?

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc rh xmaiden jackal
naga centi cind noir noise
noah biscuit liter sbs rumani

cubes:

quantum on jackal, centi, rumani
vigor on biscuit, blanc, noise
temperance on noah
other nikke run highest lvl cube available

notes: check SS attached to see how you can update your teams once your helmT is ready (if she isn't already)

[shell hazel]

I got 120 ordinary tickets do you think Rumani will arrive?

[tropic summit]

considering i've wishlisted rouge for over 3-4 months and she still hasn't, i wouldn't be too sure

[shell hazel]

meanwhile

(I didn't even pull on her banner I wasn't here for it lol)

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

luck is one of those things I guess, I keep getting dupes when I want new units I'm missing, I think I MLB poli as well

[swift mango]

Maybe wait still Anchor come to the pool if you didn't pull for Anchor.

I got Rumani dupe from friend pull when I pulled for Asuka though.

[swift mango]

Some game admin accounts got beaten by Cindy in Arena and butthurted I guess.

[shell hazel]

I do have anchor

absolutely no materials whatsoever for her, but I got her 😄

[brazen ledge]

Who’s that for ?

[brazen ledge]

Ye ok 100% ele

[radiant storm]

Cindy Lines

S. Anis Line

[valid fern]

either a shitton of rocks spent or really lucky. gratz

[radiant storm]

S. Anis only 70+ rocks
Cindy, can't recall how many

[limber rampart]

What wrong with my cindy or my opponent too strong? I thought 3rl should win 4rl

[tropic summit]

biscuit is mostly carrying that fight for the enemy, as it denies you part of the damage, while on your side jackal is actually sharing the multiple nukes

either you noah or skip that team

alternative would be to indom it with someone

a dps B3 (minus SBS), in your case you could use RH indommed 🤔

[whole shell]

rh indom suffers the same fate against taunting defender + biscuit

wait

[shell hazel]

damn great lines, I have only 3 x ele and 3 x atk lines so far, I need to roll a bit more to add ammo and things just out of rocks for now

[sleek root]

Noise/Drunk Scarlet/Blanc/Rapunzel/Jackal can easily win against his Cindy. Just need to win 2, so focus on making 2 strong counter team over spreading your nikke on 3 teams.
Drunk Scarlet easily burst 1st over Cindy teams

[tropic summit]

there's no taunting def there, she'll hit p5 then p4 then p3 and so on

[whole shell]

I saw you said no sbs and assumed so

x.maiden is defender though

[tropic summit]

ye but not taunter

he'll proc biscuit s2 on both xmaiden and centi early

then 10s indom RH on B3, he'll have time to DPS

RH will shoot p5 even pre burst

[whole shell]

comp could work but it'll have rng from target switching

[tropic summit]

union shooting range exist

although calling it an intended feature is a stretch

[whole shell]

that's just to lock snipers to p5 and ignore noah most of the time

[tropic summit]

yep, target switching will stick to p5 then p4 then p3 etc

i mean even if it doesn't, xmaiden biscuit s2 will fade after 5s

what we expect to happen is this:

-round starts
-p1 and p5 trigger biscuit s2 around if not before 3RL
-RH indommed starts B3ing on p5
-RH wipes p5 then p4/p1 (depending on target switching)
-10s of that

it will come out to how long their cindy lasts with decoy, but i doubt more than 4-5 shots

[whole shell]

now that I look at it

[whole shell]

is your helm treasured?

[limber rampart]

of course and max s1 too

[limber rampart]

omg i didnt know that how strong is biscuit but i sure can not stronger than jackal
I thought that only noah or faster burst can counter cindy aoe
my bad

[whole shell]

tbh I don't exactly think biscuit was the key factor in that fight, your cindy nuke actually missed several people

[tropic summit]

well you actually learn the most from these kind of scenarios, making mistakes is a good chance to improve yourself

[limber rampart]

Im lower cp than him and i havent fully built her yet

[whole shell]

nevermind, it didn't

very unfortunate timeline of events

first proc of biscuit s2 went to centi