pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

finally, got to 36-37

[shell hazel]

blue cp

been a while for me in campaign 😄

[tropic summit]

finally got to play that stage, 4 MGs made it fairly easy

freebird was playing in the background

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/lynyrd-skynyrd-gif-17467036326403791114

classic 🙂

finally got last 2 gloves for main team units that I can OL

i'll run those teams soon Railtracer 🙂

team 1 = deadge
team 2 = won (and RH jesus move)

I forgot to reset the RH targetting thing - I'll send the video let me know if you want me to science more

@tropic summit @unkempt kestrel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfeSZkjh8V0

• ft surprise for Railtracer 😄

[tropic summit]

oh wow lemme see

lmao the freebird

[shell hazel]

haha

[tropic summit]

lmao RH did exactly what needed even without shooting range, perma stuck on p5

[shell hazel]

so team 1 lost pretty badly but team 2 looked OK

any changes/improvements I could make?

or is it just that team 2 was just a better matchup here?

[tropic summit]

T2 still left cindy alive uh 🤔

[shell hazel]

yeah

[tropic summit]

good thing we threw in a rapu for safe measure

[shell hazel]

also spent a while shooting into invuln but guess that is expected

[tropic summit]

yeah that was part of it

if you had s.anis she'd bypass that

[shell hazel]

a win is a win, I can re-try that if you want, see if it's a fluke

RH jesus move OP

[tropic summit]

hmm

i'm thinking adding splash might make it slightly better, but we'd need to remove rapu

oh but you don't have la+ treasured right?

[shell hazel]

right

only Helm

and we had Rapi ofc

[tropic summit]

eh this might be the most ideal team as a counter, especially since cindy nerf (noah will catch most of ur cindy 2RL dmg)

[shell hazel]

shall I re-run and record t2?

[tropic summit]

for science

[shell hazel]

science is a worthy cause

[tropic summit]

knowing it's consistent is an added value

[eager mountain]

[shell hazel]

clearer win this time tbf

[tropic summit]

oh really?

[shell hazel]

posting now

[tropic summit]

[shell hazel]

yeah maybe I ate a crit last time

no one died

[tropic summit]

oh wut

now that's quite curious

[shell hazel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdb0b5A86c8&feature=youtu.be&themeRefresh=1

[tropic summit]

oh wow

what in the world, biscuit procs on the enemy did what it did to you on the previous match

so incosistent application

gonna rewatch it slowly but maybe one of your biscuit procs got "eaten" in the first attempt

[runic moon]

I'm full for today I ate 2kg noodles

[shell hazel]

inconsistent but seems relatively in my favour

as in both times won at least rather than a 50:50

if fails rapu res + finish off type deal

[tropic summit]

yep

looks fairly solid team against that kind of archetype

consider it your alternative s.anis

[eager mountain]

rail still running cindy def or nah

consider cindy against even 1rl slower rl is an unlikely lottery

[tropic summit]

actually haven't changed mine yet tbh

2.5RL cindy without noah

it's meant to just waste an enemy noah on it hopefully

[eager mountain]

well it used to force noah + lotta batteries, now its mostly just noah

[tropic summit]

being 2.5RL also forces the hand a bit to throw some batteries in it, increasing ideally win rate on the other 2 teams

but eh, a smart opponent would probably beat that

i'm gonna need rosanna soon most likely

to level up my def

[eager mountain]

to level up ur gamble

[tropic summit]

good ol' gacha within gacha

[eager mountain]

kinda needed the elem on helm for pve so i rerolled all those 1st line atk on helm, tho i dont think it contributed to rng loss

[shell hazel]

gamba time

[jagged sedge]

Helm is now on the SSS teir in pvp

[shell hazel]

and SSS on the waifu tier

[eager mountain]

while i was self debating whether helm or noah is the best non carry

they buffed noah again

[shell hazel]

I need to build my noah more just man, so much to do :S

I'll get to it though she's too good to leave the gremlin out in the cold (she's not in my def teams atm due to investment / last unit I got)

[eager mountain]

building her is mostly cp pad, unless u run unprotected 2rl noah, or stall team

[shell hazel]

1/1/4 skills, no doll (hope to get another RL one this upcoming solo raid) and no gear OL yet - lot to do 😦

[eager mountain]

but yeah simply getting the ol for cp pad is def good, shes one of the very few thats guranteed in every pvp setup

[shell hazel]

yep on my list! need more full burst weekends

luckily we got a couple more to come

[eager mountain]

but tbh faster cs 2rl noah + a defensive b1, she live unless enemy running whole sg team

yes, its s1, the chart is wrong

[unkempt kestrel]

Do u guys use rapenzel for tower? Thinking if I should build her for heal and pvp

[eager mountain]

and obviously a meta character even in pve

situationally better then naga as offburst is crazy enough, also best water carry, best pvp battery
i suspect they just copied normal helm investment for thelm

[tropic summit]

used her until RRH came along

but ye rapu has niche usage in pve, good usage in pvp

[eager mountain]

pilgrim tower is free climb as long as u have burst chain, due to only 6 stages per week and pilgrim powercreep

shes not that oftenly used in pvp, but if u dont have enough chara u can def use her

[unkempt kestrel]

Yeh I have burst chain,I just keep dying to floor 210

[eager mountain]

dying is usually not a healing issue but just dmg optimize issue

[oblique magnet]

dorthy and rapipi is going to be better B1s for tower, but you do what you must, lol

[eager mountain]

i expected su to know better to release stronger treasure units

but tbh i didnt expect it to be thelm level of broken

shes doesnt seem pilgrim level of broken but honestly its pretty close enough

[shell hazel]

I need to finish getting her stats higher but her healing without burst feels a bit weak still

where Naga is a fairly decent sustain more of the time without bursting

might be just due to sync level / not OL all gear etc

[eager mountain]

its just additional bonus that consistently triggers crown s2

and most of the time thats honestly enough healing consider nikke's gameplay, since u usually dont need any

[shell hazel]

it's not enough to keep me alive under sustained pressure atm, where I can full heal back up with Naga pretty well

but under burst it's good

I play a lot at deficit etc, and hard UR mode kicks me about a bit, maybe when stronger I won't need it as much 😄

[eager mountain]

yeah ur isnt an issue cuz of my lvl

tho honestly ur reward diff is low enough

optimizing personal contribution get a slight higher chance to get 1 extra bettery

if its for glory and honor then its already high lv union malding and timing nor struggling with nikke living in ur

[shell hazel]

oh I just wanted to contribute what I could 🙂

and to do that meant not dying

[eager mountain]

ya, there are options, helm just doesnt solo carry the heal as offburst

[shell hazel]

I made a video of 2nd boss in hard mode (Mace) I had to bring rapunzel here or I died even with Helm healing 😄
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXtMf6p2gPk

[eager mountain]

but tbh, helm3 burst is solid enough to toss in once even in elem neutral boss

and ur is mostly about building 5 elem teams where helm should be in water team that she bursts anyway

[shell hazel]

the inc damage between Helm bursts would be enough to nix someone

I'm keen to see how she does with treasure unlocked

[tropic summit]

@fathom rock

[vapid lake]

530k cp for mald-free nihilister, noted

[tropic summit]

what horrors await me in the next one?

[vapid lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1162985219830329374.webp?size=128&animated=true

i should be 530k cp when new chapter out

[tropic summit]

yeah was this 1

#questions message

although i used helmT

rh crown liter alice helmt

[vapid lake]

surely i will have helmT by the time new chapter out

surely one more solo raid of materials is enough

[valid fern]

Triple farters. And snipers

[tropic summit]

oh boy, what happy times ahead...

[oblique magnet]

what sync / CP is this at? i'm stuck on the chapter 20 boss

[tropic summit]

synch 337, cp around 530k

[oblique magnet]

oh dang, i just suck at the game, lol

[tropic summit]

27% deficit, i'd say you're a pretty good malder on your own

[oblique magnet]

the whale hasn't beaten the boss yet. (i'm 3)

[shell hazel]

that's too bright in the middle 😄

[tropic summit]

whales generally don't like playing on deficit

you can expect them to clear campaign slower than any malder

[oblique magnet]

the whale is at 653k CP atm, lol

[shell hazel]

they can buy themselves out a deficit pretty quickly though

[oblique magnet]

second place is a dolphin, spends about half as much as first place, lol

[tropic summit]

wouldn't be sure calling them dolphin is accurate then

[shell hazel]

baby whale

[oblique magnet]

i'm worried about 3 ~ he's been creeping up, lol

[tropic summit]

isn't your brightness a tad too high?

[oblique magnet]

game is in HDR; taking screenshots in windows with HDR is... a challenge

i deleted them to save everyone's eyes, lol

[tropic summit]

eh that's fine, as long as we didn't look at them for too long

could probably illuminate my room at night with that SS alone

[oblique magnet]

[solemn matrix]

Do attack %+ when 'entering Full Burst' affect Scarlet/Cinderella's Burst III damage?

[tropic summit]

buffs like liter or RH do, buffs like s.anis apply only to everything after entering full burst

[solemn matrix]

The question is how specific is the condition requirement for the Skill 1/2 of some Nikke.

[sleek root]

Anyone has the newest burst gen speed chart? One with HelmT

[tropic summit]

yes, DL any of the updated burst gen calcs

#pvp-arena message

[sleek root]

Wow! Jackal got dethrone?!

[tropic summit]

as standalone burst gen yes, when feeding involved she'd still be unique

[sleek root]

Ah yea that make sense. She has her link share thingy

[jagged sedge]

wait Helm has good burst gen?

[upper grove]

with treasure and maxed skill 1, yes

best in the game

[jagged sedge]

Wow. I did not know that. I will have to invest her.

[eager mountain]

yes

[jagged sedge]

I knew shes badass since she 1 hits the highest attacker and does the best healing, but damn now fastest burst

[eager mountain]

that 1 shot attacker and heal doesnt justify sss tier at all, its mostly just the burst gen

[jagged sedge]

ah I see

[tropic summit]

also water code, a spit from rosanna or any elec burst and she's dead without even needing to be buffed

while she's a very good unit, she's not without any flaw

[eager mountain]

to enhance rosa's rng experience by adding more 100% scenarios

[jagged sedge]

ture

[eager mountain]

takes 0.18 sec travel time for standard rl like centi's to land

in that sense 3 lines of cs would be enough for helm unless helm solo carry gen in a team without other battery

[bleak shale]

"entering full burst" is after scarlet/cindy

it has to be buffed and existing before b3 snapshot

so "entering burst stage 3" text should be the last chance you get to buff your b3 aside from your b3 buffing itself like bsoda's burst having its own atk buff(if your coin skill is leveled up)

[solemn matrix]

Alright that was the answer I needed, thanks.

[strange linden]

is there a way to find player on the blabla site? just to check my opponents of my bracket in case they didn't hide their infos

[bleak shale]

try searching their name at the top

[vapid lake]

see i told u guys to hide ur info!!!

we have example of a stalker here!!

[bleak shale]

i have no need to hide my units all of mine are pve investments but i did hide it anyways

[upper grove]

just used boxes for 281

[wise horizon]

amazing! thanks xD sorry i fell asleep at the time

[tropic summit]

oh second attempt worked?

ah nvm it was the def teams, no problem

[wise horizon]

havent tried yet. will try later in the day

@tropic summit thought this would work but I guess not

[tropic summit]

what's doll on SBS?

rosanna 1hitko her

if you wanna do that you'll need noah noise cindy biscuit centi but you won't hit 2RL

[strange linden]

I wouldn't even thought about it if I didn't see someone worried about it here

[eager mountain]

win11 is so awfully buggy that built in recording simply stop working based on its mood

[vapid lake]

use OBS

[eager mountain]

one step closer to malding linux

win11 just complete piece of garbage

[strange linden]

I actually want to see if they have helm treasure cause it seems to me they didn't, they burst too slowly when I fought one of them

[bleak shale]

see even my pve investments have to be hidden now

didnt even think about that

[eager mountain]

question is gl for them findiing ur li ID

as if they would know, ppl assume that they know ur li id without doing anything

[strange linden]

that's easy since it show on their game profile, but you can't use it to find them on the blabla

[eager mountain]

li id is not uid

[strange linden]

oh

[wise horizon]

SR15

[tropic summit]

oh wow wonder if you got critted

[valid fern]

even i dont know what my li id is

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

it is done

slowly going up

[umbral crown]

me still at 17 boss

[wise horizon]

Think I should go again with the same team?

[tropic summit]

hmmmm

this is their team

[tropic summit]

im thinking you could actually face tank scarlet nuke

not even biscuit died to it, your only real issue is rosanna

at that point we could go for 3RL tanky comp

maybe:

expecting noah and rumani to eat biscuit s2, cind should facetank easily, biscuit will survive if not critted, centi seems to be fine

[eager mountain]

garbage rolls from la+ OL

[crystal flicker]

yeah, their Scarlet has no buff

I started to think maybe I need to build Noise for PvP defense

just to make 3rd team that can tank just about every nuke lol

[eager mountain]

u cant

if its not noah then its pretty much just the matter of buff or nik

[crystal flicker]

you see, I have 3 team

• Scarlet Nuke
• Cindy Noah
• SAnis leftover (Crown SAnis Anis Pepper BSoda)

I think the way to beat this is using very fast Cindy Nuke to SAnis, and Scarlet Nuke to Cindy team

[tropic summit]

where is your biscuit? in cindy noah team?

[crystal flicker]

Guess I really need Treasured Helm

yes, Biscuit in Cindy team

[tropic summit]

hmm ok your scarlet is probably getting either of these counters, the s.anis team gets killed by scar-jack

(depending if you running her indom or with rosanna/faster RL)

your priority should try and make a 3rd team that is not feed oriented

teams like this one are scary, for example

#pvp-arena message

[crystal flicker]

oh ye I can see the 2nd team on my bracket

[crystal flicker]

yeah, I need Helm treasure then

and I assume I can replace Emi with SBS

[tropic summit]

the extra CS% on those teams help a lot too though

17% CS on some of those nikke so keep it in mind

[crystal flicker]

grinding rocks

[umbral belfry]

thank god this whale in my bracket is so boo boo ka ka at making teams or else I'd get cp capped

good thing reshuffle is soon

[umbral crown]

to keep 3 more months with him

[umbral belfry]

literally anyone but the creeper in my bracket rn

[tropic summit]

you gonna break his heart if you isekai in another bracket

[umbral belfry]

good

[solid flare]

4.92 4.04 4.63.4.33 what is my charge speed?

17.92? 16?

[upper grove]

does he still have that weird msg in his profile

[umbral crown]

use calculator

[umbral belfry]

yeah

'do you fw with me or no' 😭 GET ME OUT

[upper grove]

few more days

[glad meteor]

18
5 + 4 + 5 + 4

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/headache-dizzy-math-studying-study-gif-12016285

[solid flare]

round first then sum. ok

[glad meteor]

If you have more than one of the same CS Tier then it’s added together then rounded

E.G.
4.92 4.04 4.63.4.63

= 5 + 4 + (4.63+4.63)
= 5 + 4 + 9.26
= 5 + 4 + 9

[quartz prawn]

@quick lake @graceful grotto

[quick lake]

u bought the dupes!

[quartz prawn]

bricked my acct, but worth

[solid flare]

exactly same tier, so only really applies to 4.33 x 2 =8.66= 9
and 4.63x3 =13.89 =14

[upper grove]

now get that S1 maxed and S2 for pve

[quartz prawn]

ill prob leave her at 10/7/4 for now

[upper grove]

10/7/7 for me, will use her on nihil HM I guess once I hit that 19-6

[quartz prawn]

thelm woulda saved so much malding on 19-6

[solid flare]

5.51 Charge speed rounds up to 6?

[glad meteor]

Yeah

[pseudo gate]

Anyone got a suggestion for this helm+ team? Rookie arena. I don’t have a helm+ myself yet

[quick lake]

cs% calc might have changed maybe

[keen vapor]

2RL Noah might have problems....

[glad meteor]

I asked in coomcord, snake said they changed it back to normal

[glad meteor]

? i would maybe try this

[pseudo gate]

I don’t have a helm+ yet 🤣

[glad meteor]

Don’t know if this will work need quantum on rumani and jackal.

• And noah may need more CS

@quick lake what do you think

[quick lake]

Oh, the original round then add tgt?

[glad meteor]

Yeah

Scar blanc ros feed noise 3x so don’t need taunt prio change maybe

[quick lake]

Should work I think. Average pellets is ~20

[glad meteor]

Combat power might be a problem, core 7 helm

[pseudo gate]

Can I use emilia or centi to replace rumani?

[pseudo gate]

Cp wise we are quite similar. ~50k difference

[glad meteor]

hmm, no RLs in p1/2

noise jackal cindy noah centi ?

Don’t want to use emilia, feed + water unit

[pseudo gate]

Hmm let me give it a try

[pseudo gate]

Perfect, it worked

[glad meteor]

Nice

Your cindy didn’t get unlinked

Their ros invest is interesting…

[pseudo gate]

Meaning my cindy was tanking with jackal?
And what about their ros?

[glad meteor]

Your cindy and jackal was still jackal linked, their rosanna s1 might not be 7

[pseudo gate]

I see. Could it be because my cubes for noise and Noah are quantum as well?

[glad meteor]

Could be, but I can’t confirm

[pseudo gate]

What’s the linkage requirement?

[glad meteor]

Jackal links with 2 highest attack.

Rosanna dispels 2 highest attack, if I’m not mistaken.

5 buffs altogether, not 5 buffs each,

she could maybe dispel the noise buff from s2 if she shoots fast enough. I forgot the priority and what buffs she dispels. I think it was

Personal > Cubes > ally skills [(noir/jackal s1) I think the order of the nikkes also changes the order the buffs show up, e.g, buffs that activate at the start of the fight

[pseudo gate]

I see. That’s interesting 🤔 Thanks for the suggestion as well as the explanation

[glad meteor]

Doesn’t need any, but as much as possible is appreciated.

Can aim for 13-17% I guess

[eager mountain]

3 lines on her is good

shes sr so no bullet travel time

[fathom rock]

23-19 and 23-21 awaits you

[eager mountain]

assuming a max 3frame delay then 12 is enough for 3rl into 2.5rl

[glad meteor]

Get 24 CS, 3RL b2 before 2RL B3

[fathom rock]

Yes

[eager mountain]

yes

[fathom rock]

24 cs is basically 3 black lines, 1 blue line and cs cube

[eager mountain]

bascially giving up any pve content and toss all rocks for cs

[upper grove]

1st OL on jackal already with CS

[vapid lake]

raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[fathom rock]

Nah mine has the 47% hitrate special

[vapid lake]

im free

[fathom rock]

Hi free im retro

[vapid lake]

60 gold kits, a phase 8 SR doll and a dream i have 0 doll kits now but i got it

[fathom rock]

i had to sr14

[quick lake]

I think SR being instant, no projectile travel time means much faster

[vapid lake]

i make miranda fav item next

[quick lake]

Maybe +3-4% cs tbh

[upbeat oriole]

is poli a good s2 for rosanna comp?

[quick lake]

She’s a mid buffer

I dont think she buffs rosanna’s burst as well

[glad meteor]

S2 as in sac poli ?

[eager mountain]

8-9% cs for 2rl and 5-6% cs for 3rl thats why 17-5=12 is fine
travel time also varies, i used centi's standard rl bullet, need to test others

[quick lake]

Even though projectile time is instant, reloading animation takes the same amount of time

[eager mountain]

if its inconsistent then its another thing to worry

[quick lake]

I think I was at 12% CS,THelm but at 2.7RL

[eager mountain]

its dependent on other cs, and rl is not second anyway

basically just one less cs line to worry for helm when u also want her ol lines to function in pve

[quick lake]

Helm was the determining shot for burst. But not fast enough

[eager mountain]

if shes the last shot to gen then either there isnt other batteries or another bettery has really high cs line

rl is a smart yet weird time measure anyway

[fathom rock]

[signal turret]

Hello recenty I saw that I was hovering quite low on my arena so I was thinking about redoing my 1V1 adn 3V3 teams, cloud anyone help me?

[swift mango]

Done with HelmT too?

I wished I had focus on LapT mission before so I had more to exchange for HelmT

Couldn't have her s3 finished today for union raid.

[fathom rock]

Yes

[shell hazel]

I think I'll have exactly enough batteries from UR to quantum 4 and bastion 7/resi 7

[eager mountain]

rarely using bastion for once now, who i have it on, oh yes scar

[coarse lake]

My bastion ain't going higher than 8 for a while

[eager mountain]

if crown didnt rip bastion enough, here comes maids

[shell hazel]

yeah it's more of a stat stick for my dps as I only have a few cubes to share out 🙂

I'll park them at 7 and look at doing more for the pvp cubes next UR instead - quantum to 7, and a bit on vigor/temperance

guessing they don't need to be as high? would 5 be a good target for vigor/temp?

[eager mountain]

kinda want 7
but ur sync should focus on 11 resil first not pvp cubes

[final wedge]

Damn...i just realize somethin...turns out my 17+% chargespeed jackal benefit quite a lot against same opp team despite both team are 2 RL...idk why but I burst first

I tried it 4 times this morning in rookie

Got annoyed since some is using blanc jackal scarlet redhood helm

So I decided to use the same after so many losses....turns out I burst first

Idk how 2RL calculated if one is higher now

[coarse lake]

Jackal prob the finishing gen hit with all the feed going around

[shell hazel]

oh yeah 100%, though I can spare a bit for pvp ones I think!

[eager mountain]

do whatever pleases u, resil pve investment is also pvp investment

[final wedge]

Srsly I didn't xpect it...i thought same team 2RL won't be affected by chargespeed...turns out it's not

I also double test my opp whether it is 2RL or not and yet it is 2RL

Still don't get how chargespeed affect higher than 2RL

[coarse lake]

Compare team heal tick times of your Blancs

You reach 2rl faster

Also is their p1 blanc

[final wedge]

So we do able to reach faster than 2RL..demm

I'm glad I'm investing 3 RL unit to get 17% charge speed lol

[shell hazel]

resil 8 is an extra cube which is nice

[final wedge]

His blanc is on p2

[coarse lake]

Oh ok

[whole pawn]

@tropic summit after reset, I attacked chal 8 and slept, woke up find myself at dia 1, I attacked the chal 8 again and I closed the game, 50 mn before now I am dia 1
it's joever xd

[final wedge]

Cant believe after so many PvP I've done...i still learn somethin today

Can't imagine what's champ arena gonna be like....if it will exist

[spiral onyx]

#PvPCubesLife

[lament girder]

Why is the beginner sp arena so scary everyone has so much more cp than me

[shell hazel]

when did you start playing?

[lament girder]

I actually played since launch but quit after a while. I just came back like almost a week

[shell hazel]

ok so your PVP will be bricked if this is the same account

it pits you against people who started near you

[lament girder]

Ye they’re all lv300+ wth

[shell hazel]

if this is a new account it should be relatively free of whales and stuff but if you're seeing people 300+ and it's an old one, you can't compete in pvp really

[lament girder]

Oops o7

[shell hazel]

you're not that far in, you could roll a new account

[lament girder]

How much gems do i lose btw

[shell hazel]

at least you can compete

[lament girder]

I think i’ll keep playing on this acc. Kinda like it

[shell hazel]

depends how good you can compete, this is gems every 2 weeks

[lament girder]

I see

[shell hazel]

if you're focused say top 30 - 2000 gems every 2 weeks seems feasible

but you still need to outplay people near you and push the campaign more than most to get there

[lament girder]

Okay I will just keep pushing campaign for now. Gotta finish chap 11 to get alice

[shell hazel]

good thing about not worrying about it, is you can freely take breaks without worrying about it

if I stop playing even for 3-6 months I'll brick myself 😄

[ancient tangle]

i do wish theyd find a solution for that 😌 not that its a huge issue but it kinda sucks that i cant push into challenger for pvp

my teams are really good just cant compete w a huge power gap

[shell hazel]

I am not sure how they'd do it fairly, if they reshuffle you based on power etc then you'll just be fighting relatively even people and whilst it will be closer, it removes the benefits of good planning (and hell even whaling)

people who spend to whale up some will just be matched up against other people who do the same, it would be funny but it will stop people from doing it 😄

I guess only thing you can do is keep playing, if people quit you'll move up

[swift mango]

I would imagine you already have resilience lv9 just from solo raid.

[spiral onyx]

Solo raid raised my resilience from 6 to 8

[ancient tangle]

true i was brainstorming and i think youre right, theres no solid way theyd be able to “balance” everything out and its better to just leave it

[spiral onyx]

Proper shuffling actually encourages whaling because the difference between each rank will be smaller and so whales are more incentived to whale more for that extra edge

This game does not have real shuffling

[ancient tangle]

people that play every day benefit from how it is currently

[shell hazel]

and people that buy cd and things

f2p can't compete with a proper whale

[ancient tangle]

im just tired of going back and forth between diamond 1-5 every day lol

i wanna go fight in the big leagues

i like crafting teams, mostly cause some of the pvp units that are really good dont see any other use outside of the arena

[shell hazel]

yeah it's an area that I'm enjoying more than I thought I would, but a lot of that is down to this channel tbh

I can build stronger/better teams thanks to the advice and guidance here

[ancient tangle]

thats good to know, i just joined yesterday lol. wanted to find a lil community to talk about the game w

[shell hazel]

helped me to set better def teams up (though still not perfect I need more resources!)

[ancient tangle]

feel free to dm me if you wanna share cause im always looking for better teams… especially cause i usually punch outta my weight class

[shell hazel]

Railtracer if he's about later is certainly the one to ask

[ancient tangle]

howd you get the thing next to your name?

[shell hazel]

yapping (not joking)

[eager mountain]

[ancient tangle]

oh nice 😂

so many discord features idk how to use

[eager mountain]

discord as an app has good designs

changed my def again, no cindy this time

[shell hazel]

who are you using instead?

[eager mountain]

[ancient tangle]

lol nice sticker

[vapid lake]

no king reigns forever, i have caused chaos in the bracket and many people started attacking different ppl and usurped his position

[tropic summit]

well it's not over yet, from dia1 tomorrow you can climb again, aim for ch4-ch5-c6 just like before, wait 7-8 hours after reset

[ancient tangle]

no way!

[shell hazel]

my cindy is 70k CP I can't easily drop her 😄

[tropic summit]

post your box with nikke ordered by strength and we can arrange teams

[ancient tangle]

in here?

[eager mountain]

emi

[shell hazel]

a wild Railtracer appears

you cast fireball

*it's ineffective *

[eager mountain]

rail is elec type

fire is neutral to elec

[shell hazel]

damn need re-spec

[shell hazel]

being the king means ruling by fear

[eager mountain]

bring the queen means ___

[shell hazel]

i'm still holding 1st as of this morning guy has given up taking it back for now, I don't think it's last I'll see of em

[shell hazel]

moving in any direction any distance

[eager mountain]

i expected a weeby answer

[ancient tangle]

i understood that 😇

[shell hazel]

I thought it was a pretty good on the spot response 😄

[vapid lake]

if i were really a king i would run a kingdom into the ground within days

[ancient tangle]

real

[vapid lake]

getting helmT is lifechanging

[shell hazel]

these days monarchs just hand over the boring stuff to parliament and they swan about in their fancy mansions and private jets

[shell hazel]

don't got, maybe new rei will be a viable option

[summer copper]

being CEO of a business lets you do that

[shell hazel]

but a long way to go for her to even be a viable option really

[shell hazel]

true but you also need to run a business, monarchs just have staff and don't have to really consider it 😄

[eager mountain]

lv5 sakura burst should be enough

[ancient tangle]

sakura for pvp?

[eager mountain]

for tanking rei2.0 in pvp, niche

[tropic summit]

scarlet liter anchor:IM xmaiden jackal
naga centi cind alice rumani
sbs blanc s.anis noir pepper

cubes

quantum on jackal, centi, rumani
vigor on pepper, blanc, anchor:IM
resil on s.anis, s.anis must've no ammo OL and must be burst lvl 9

wishlist/build asap:

-noah, biscuit are core units, get them asap
-throw noise and helm in synchro, aim for helmT stage 2, skill 1 then needs to be lvl 9 or 10

check table on the right for teams/builds you can aim toward to

[ancient tangle]

oh interesting ill try it

woah

[tropic summit]

oh god no

[hollow anchor]

Yo @tropic summit why did I loose?

[ancient tangle]

everybody… im green

[vapid lake]

no more mpriv sticker

[fathom rock]

Im actually in 23-21 rn

[eager mountain]

not recommanded unless u know what ur doing

[ancient tangle]

scar nuked you lol

[vapid lake]

u sent shotgun against scar jackal, the comp that counters ur comp

[tropic summit]

yeah here is fine, see example above for another player

[ancient tangle]

noted hehe

[eager mountain]

there was a mpriv sticker?

[vapid lake]

half ur team probably committed sudoku to scarlet skill 2before she even bursted

[eager mountain]

u mean drunk scar? shes elec, sakura only tanks wind carry, and there isnt a meta wind carry in pvp, else sakura wont be this niche

[tropic summit]

@hollow anchor

1. you're slower than enemy team (4RL vs 2RL), means enemy gets to burst sooner than you, in particular scarlet will nuke you, noah will cast a shield and make enemy units invulnerable 2RL earlier than you
2. you're feeding linked units with crown and s.anis
3. scarlet will kill via counters both s.anis and crown
4. bad matchup overall

[shell hazel]

post your nikkes and your team JM so Railtracer can advise your best comps

[tropic summit]

oh wow i'm catching up yay

[vapid lake]

yes let's overwork railtracer

[hollow anchor]

What team to beat him?

[shell hazel]

that will vary based on what you have and what you invested, you can't copy other people really for teams unless you invested everything

[vapid lake]

1 man army

[tropic summit]

can you send me ahead of time your clears? i can ask you in question channel so we don't spam pvp channel @fathom rock

[eager mountain]

[fathom rock]

There is a universe where im not lazy and push ch27 rn

[shell hazel]

lets! but also he asked for em already 😄

I wouldn't just volunteer he has to haha

[vapid lake]

new chapter coming out in april just start hoarding

[tropic summit]

it's fine just throw them here

let's see how much ~~bricked ~~potential the lad has

[tropic summit]

it's a rookie team right?

[fathom rock]

Ill push when im back home

If i record something its on my yt channel, everything below 23-21 was easy so didnt record

[ancient tangle]

ok i will i just feel bad if i flood chat w a bunch of pics lol

[tropic summit]

no you don't, just go ahead

[fathom rock]

Do it

[tropic summit]

4 first lines of nikke is enough btw, no need for full entire box

[shell hazel]

it's what it's here for also you limited to 4 pics anyway - put into landscape mode if you can

[fathom rock]

I dont hold responsability for a lv1 emi

[tropic summit]

well, at that point it's natural selection

[ancient tangle]

holy cow

horizontal on iphone is not fun

😂

here i think this covers everything, im sorry if this is spam

[eager mountain]

it’s not a spam

[tropic summit]

oh now i know why that number sounded familiar...

[shell hazel]

nah you're good

[tropic summit]

ok taking a look let's see wht you can do

[shell hazel]

guessing your atk and def teams are the same?

[ancient tangle]

atm yes

got lazy 😇

[shell hazel]

is laplace treasured?

[ancient tangle]

yes laplace has fav

[shell hazel]

are you working on Helm treasure? she is really good in pvp

[ancient tangle]

helm has fav except final upgrade 😒

[shell hazel]

ah nice, skill 1 10?

[ancient tangle]

im close but item exchange is wack so i calculated wrong

[shell hazel]

skill 1 at 10 and fav item p2 is decent start if you have it, she is a bit less effective if skill 1 is less

[ancient tangle]

no should i max it out

[shell hazel]

skill 1 for pvp, the others are more pve

[tropic summit]

can you get helmT to skill 1 lvl 10?

[shell hazel]

I'm 10/4/4 currently (but less sync than you)

[ancient tangle]

ok sounds good thanks!

yes i think i can max it out rn

[tropic summit]

then we can use her

btw for reference ur current teams are like this:

[ancient tangle]

ok i maxed it lol

[shell hazel]

at least none are more than 4 RL

[tropic summit]

yeah it's "good" in a sense

[shell hazel]

what is your quantum cube at?

[ancient tangle]

im good w constructive criticism give it to me straight 🤣

RL stands for?

[shell hazel]

speed of burst

[tropic summit]

your real problem atm is that you've forsaken core battery units and 1 core stall unit:

-biscuit, centi and rumani are all out of synchro

[shell hazel]

lower is better

[eager mountain]

he just need to sync and ol his batteries

[shell hazel]

2 RL is very fast

[ancient tangle]

yes ive got them more recently, synchro is expensive after a while 🥲

[shell hazel]

4 RL kind of slow

[tropic summit]

give this a 5 min read while we making ur teams

https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

[ancient tangle]

ok so mines high as the sky

not great 🤣

[shell hazel]

probably some units you can remove from synchro tbh, you'll find anyway

I had a clear out on mine and found about 10 spots

[tropic summit]

most players not familiar with arena mechanics end up that way, not too unusual

[ancient tangle]

ik but waifu 😔

[ancient tangle]

not worried tho im a quick learner!

[shell hazel]

3 RL is kind of typical, it can go beyond 4 RL 😄

[eager mountain]

half of his sync can be gone

[ancient tangle]

they might get angry tho

[eager mountain]

It’d be like that

[shell hazel]

just give em dolls keep em happy

[ancient tangle]

ima hear ab it all day

true they love those dolls

[shell hazel]

idea of good def teams is simply to make your opponent have a hard time, anyone who knows their stuff can counter most things, so it's a puzzle of sorts

you may need to OL some of the pvp units a bit and give them dolls to stop CP hurting you too badly

[ancient tangle]

ideally youll be switching team comps every time you attack right?

[shell hazel]

yes for attacks

[ancient tangle]

to counter all their teams

[eager mountain]

def is general, atk is specific

[shell hazel]

if you can get to a good place to just def though you don't have to go super attack mode all the time necessarily, it's kind of chill if you can def where you want to be 😄

just counter 2 easiest teams, skip 1

[whole pawn]

ok , next I will wait 8 h and climb from dia 1, although not sure I can reach chal 6 ever again, even at chal 8 I m being attacked

[left sun]

anyone got a good team for arena

[tropic summit]

did you ever lose in ch9?

[tropic summit]

post your box with nikke ordered by strength, first 4 lines are enough, we can take it from there

[shell hazel]

wonder if you can get 3 x 2 RL teams

gotta be possible right?

[left sun]

got almost all nikkes in the game but not sure what team never really build a good pvp team

[shell hazel]

even without like CS 17% and such

[eager mountain]

u can’t unless they feed

or u can it won’t be optimal teams but pieces of sh*ts

[left sun]

i got all fav items too if that changes anything

[ancient tangle]

i cant wait to buy that helm gacha hehe

[left sun]

its awesome i love the animation

[shell hazel]

I have it think the burst ani was a bit weak though

glad they fixed whatever that was on the launch

[ancient tangle]

man of taste, seeing your collection is like a fine painting

[shell hazel]

Helm is SSS waifu so I had to get the skin, and the Naga one

[left sun]

if you want more details i can send them here

[tropic summit]

a current improve of your team meta wise.
any of these teams that is not on par with your average CP, just scratch them for any CP padded team instead until you've built those core units

scarlet mari rh noir jackal
blanc sbs rapu emi la+
noah cind helm emilia noise (noah needs to have SR15 doll, temperance)

cubes

quantum on jackal
vigor on rapu, noise, blanc
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube available

note: scarlet must be higher atk% than noir and either 1st or 2nd highest atk% in the team

wishlist/build: biscuit, rumani, centi you're extremely starved of batteries

once you've those batteries/meta picks built, can get your teams further reviewed (we want especially to give a bit extra safety to noah in T3 and remake teams with biscuit in mind)

[left sun]

yeee ❤️

[eager mountain]

for instance u use maiden for b3 nuke instead of scar, all b3 are betteries, ignore biscuit, then u can easily have 3 2rl teams

[left sun]

thank youuu

[eager mountain]

just that those teams will sux

[tropic summit]

i'd advise these then

any of the 3 variations above

[shell hazel]

was for JM based on their nikkes

[tropic summit]

that was for another player tho

[left sun]

a

xD mbad

[tropic summit]

yeah you lost from ch8

against some chinese bot

[shell hazel]

fiend

[shell hazel]

this was for you #pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

@whole pawn you've 2 choices imo

-keep struggling like this but focus on PvE then get back to PvP at a later point
-fix your bricked PvP CP and investiment, particularly your 2 main teams (scarlet and cindy teams)

a nice lucky find would be for you to hit noah

[ancient tangle]

thank you sm! i really appreciate this ill start getting to work 😌

[shell hazel]

you can mock the teams in rookie arena team selection

helps to see the CP without adjusting stuff in sp-arena by mistake

[ancient tangle]

great idea thanks for the call out

[shell hazel]

biggest issue with adjusting will be unit investment. Less invested units in positions 2-4 are a bit safer from insta-death but units like Noah need to be toughened up a bit

if CP is low then OL them and skill up/add cubes/dolls etc to get a bit higher CP

[whole pawn]

not sure wdym by fix pvp, its not like i can increqse their lvl fast, and i m still trying to find ol stats
@fathom rock

[tropic summit]

you can start by stopping giving rocks to brick yourself further away from pvp

[whole pawn]

i m currently trying to lvl up blanc gear, but i wont ol it now, and also i can lvl up their skills but not burst

[whole pawn]

giving rocks for who? cindy ol?

[tropic summit]

i'm not going to go over it again, we've talked extensively of what you've done with xmaiden

[ancient tangle]

good to know. i do have OL on noah not sure if its completely maxed yet tho. CP is gonna be the biggest problem i see myself having trying to move up now

[whole pawn]

i am trying to find ol stats for cindy, not maiden, thats why i cncant ol my pvp right now

[ancient tangle]

but for my other weak units ill start to get OL on them too

[tropic summit]

@whole pawn just keep contesting lower challanger, they can't kick you away from dia1 at least

[ancient tangle]

its not exactly expensive anymore lol

[shell hazel]

if so see if you can fix one team at a time assuming it's not borrowing units from a diff one

[eager mountain]

it’s a human nature for repeating

[whole pawn]

once i find good stats on my pve team then i can go ol pvp

[whole pawn]

2.4k gems gone

[tropic summit]

they're not, claim your points and post your top 10-20 in that bracket

(point ranking)

[ancient tangle]

ok i will. one at a time. pvp is a slower process than i expected lol but i do enjoy the strategy

[shell hazel]

gl! I am still working on my stuff 🙂

long process indeed

[ancient tangle]

we got this 🥳

[shell hazel]

I do basic OL first just anything, stat boost 😄

[tropic summit]

post it like this (10 - 15 / 15 - 20) @whole pawn

[ancient tangle]

pvp teams and replaying event stories can keep me busy till new chapters 😂

[ancient tangle]

frr and dolls prolly helps pad a bit

[tropic summit]

you're 6th correct?

[eager mountain]

for the team rail made up, Rapun noir Mari are rather niche so u don’t need to ol them imo

[shell hazel]

need doll materials most of my units still missing or r-0 D:

[tropic summit]

you need to contest that chinese guy with anchor:IM pfp and you could ensure ch6, where's that guy in ranking atm?

[whole pawn]

rank 5, the unbeatble one

[tropic summit]

that's 2.4k gems, the dream is still there for you

[tropic summit]

oh, maybe the dream is over

[whole pawn]

he doesnt move from chal 5, we cant

[shell hazel]

that was a quick dream over 😄

[ancient tangle]

ok ill either do them last or ignore the OL unless i really need the CP, thanks for letting me know tho!

[tropic summit]

well 2.1k gems it is, pretty good tho

[whole pawn]

[shell hazel]

in general is Mari a good pick up for pvp? I wanted to get one of each eva unit if I can, but doubt I can invest in them fully for a while

[whole pawn]

do i still wait 10 h as usual and push as much as i can ? or straight up after reset

[tropic summit]

hmmmmmmmm

[eager mountain]

Mari is just anoooother b2 buff but she doesn’t feed

[ancient tangle]

ngl i save those selection boxes they give from solo raid so i have a bunch 🤣

[tropic summit]

considering we know you'll be in ch7-ch10 range, you could get defensive and just stick to ch7?

[shell hazel]

not a bad idea if you don't need anything specific at the time - I always need something

for now anyway

[tropic summit]

if you see opponents you can beat on ch4-ch5-ch6 take them tho

[whole pawn]

apparently if they still have attepts even after 12 h they might shove me from chal 7, or 8, u saw my battle history

[tropic summit]

she's feedless B2 buff that scales well, so i'd say yeah

[whole pawn]

apparenlt i cannot beat them anymore, the strongest ones claim their rank

[tropic summit]

they gemmed on you? then nothing to do

[eager mountain]

you will need a lot of rl dolls for pvp
And as per usual, for ur sync, focus on kraken

[shell hazel]

hope my pulls can survive it then haha. I got new Asuka in 30 so off to a good start

you could SR-0 some units maybe as well... it's not normally recommended, especially if they want SR-5 to SR-15 later

but I guess some lesser important ones you could

[ancient tangle]

i could always use more core dust 🥲

[tropic summit]

@whole pawn claw your way to that ch7-ch10 range, try to ignore opponents you know will fight back and reclaim it, stick to the ppl you're in range with, just try to avoid being dia1 for too long as it kills your points intake

[whole pawn]

those impossible for me to beat their def

apparently if do atatck one of them, they can take my place, especially if no one attacked them besides me so they will take it

i think i should try sticking with chal 10 idk

[whole pawn]

they can all fight back kekw

[tropic summit]

hmm you could try monitor for some hours, if you can retain 10 that's an option, keep in mind ch10 is exposed to dia2 aswell

[whole pawn]

their attack cp is higher than my def cp

[tropic summit]

that's one of your main problems indeed

[whole pawn]

oh yeah i m diamond 1 for too long

12 h of dia 1 today

[tropic summit]

you lose roughly 5 times more points if you're in dia1 @whole pawn

considering your large margin with the top ch7-ch10 anyway, you'd be fine, just avoid it whenever possible tho

[whole pawn]

i think i stayed chal 8 for ugh 9h today? the rest of today gonna be dia

[tropic summit]

ok fix that asap on reset, go ch8-ch9-ch10, maybe ch9 as it seemed you held it for the longest time

[whole pawn]

everyone at chal 9 to 7 can take my place

[tropic summit]

ch10 it is then and pray

[whole pawn]

mmmm

do i attack after reset right?

[tropic summit]

at least 1 attempt ye

keep the second for the later part of the day

[whole pawn]

directly to chal 8?

[tropic summit]

depends on whoever is in that spot

and if they already attacked

the logic is the same as before, attack those who already used an attempt or ideally 2 and you've better chances at retaining it

[whole pawn]

propably same ppl, it doesnt matter they can take my place anyway

[tropic summit]

ye that's why you gotta attack after they moved

you're the underdog, don't get exposed

they skin you alive

[whole pawn]

not sure if i can know, since they dont move from their rank so they dont use attempts

my acc sucks for pvp

i think i belong to diamond 1, my days on chal didnt last longer

[tropic summit]

this season aim for challanger, next season you'll be reshuffled anyway

[whole pawn]

lets just cope that my chips gonna be enough for stay in chal, propably no

[shell hazel]

if you can camp at chal 9 or 10 it's still fine

[ancient tangle]

hey i dont wanna spam but i just wanted to know if im at a wall in pvp

these are just some pics of the competition i get the CP seems a lot higher than mine

[shell hazel]

maybe you can eventually top 30 but you'd need to keep investing and pushing some

[ancient tangle]

so i was just wondering if in theory i could still win or if im basically cooked till CP is high enough which might never happen

[shell hazel]

you can win with right comps vs higher cp though

[tropic summit]

you're not gonna hit challanger most likely, can dia1 or dia2 perhaps

[shell hazel]

85% cp for stat deficit to kick in

[tropic summit]

start from there if anything, then you can see

[ancient tangle]

so basically where im at 😂

[shell hazel]

so if you're attacking a team with at least 85% of their CP there is no stat penalty, best team wins

that is per team not overall

[ancient tangle]

ok thats HUGE thank you

i can prolly manage that if i dump mats into my teams

[shell hazel]

whenever you attack just take that opponent team CP * 0.85 = your lower limit of what you can use

[whole pawn]

not sure if I can lurk in chal 10, I m still exposed to diamond 1 and 2, chal 9 is an option but it's risky, same for 8, the thing is I can try hold at chal 8

[shell hazel]

and you just need to aim for 2 wins out of the 3

[ancient tangle]

still prolly wont get far but oh well thats just what i gotta deal w 🤣

yea i usually go for 2/3

[shell hazel]

problem is if you can't hold chal 9 or 10 you can't hold 4-8 either

[ancient tangle]

hard to find people i can 3/3 now

[shell hazel]

the opponents lower down are there generally as they are weaker

[whole pawn]

maybe I will try attacking chal 10 and wait, if it doesn't work I will go straight up chal 8

[shell hazel]

this is an equilibrium game somewhat, your best move is to sit in the spot you hold the best

[tropic summit]

that's good and all, but remember to attack ppl you know already used their attempts

no point climbing for only losing it right after

[shell hazel]

if you're near reset (just before) and you didn't use your tries yet you can push a bit higher sometimes

[tropic summit]

take a screenshot now for example and check later

[whole pawn]

neither 7-9 do, we are all exposed , but I am more because they can just wait me to attack
I m the victim there

[tropic summit]

not victim, underdog

= free food

they don't care much about you, but your free position

it's actually logical, as you're doing the same

[whole pawn]

probably after reset, I will try to push until chal 8 and wait 12 h and check, if I find myself at dia 1 after the first attempt، then I find myself at diamond 1 again after the second attempt, I might try to lurk in chal 9-10 and see

[tropic summit]

yeah sounds good, your objective is just to keep any ch position for as long as possible daily

[whole pawn]

they don't care about other positions, whenever they see me, they straight up attacks me

they know I don't have Noah or noise or even crown so I m a free food

[ancient tangle]

they got a crush on you

[whole pawn]

luck in this game sucks

[ancient tangle]

crownless 😔 id give you one of mine fr

[whole pawn]

[tropic summit]

crown doesn't matter, noise and noah sure

[ancient tangle]

your pfp kinda scares me

[shell hazel]

Crown isn't top tier in pvp for sure, she is MG feed as well

[ancient tangle]

maybe but crown is wifey tho

but ig so is everybody

[whole pawn]

drown scares u

[ancient tangle]

the most unhinged fusion possible fr 😭

[whole pawn]

maybe I will get Noah and noise and crown in rei banner

[ancient tangle]

i believe 🙏🏽

[swift mango]

My DEF finally broke yesterday. Just in time to add Noah in and it's walled again.

Benched LapT so lost about 40k power.

[crystal flicker]

why even you bench her

[swift mango]

No slot to add her.

[crystal flicker]

I'm started to think SAnis will be benched from PvP

[shell hazel]

a hero doesn't need a slot

they make their own 😄

[swift mango]

Benched her long ago

[swift mango]

Dunno if I should treasure my Drake or Miranda next.

With Drake+Noir I could try 2 SG DEF but it's barely more than CP pad treasure in arena. With Miranda, Emi nuke will be stronk but not ever useful for defense.

[shell hazel]

feel like Drake is the better one and useful for pve/SG comp

personally I will probably wait to see who the next fav item units are after Helm

and hope it's Marciana

[swift mango]

If I built Miranda I could go for Snow white-maxwell bossing team.

Maxwell will be a treasure next anyway.

[shell hazel]

think we'll get a new more powerful iron code attacker at some point as well

[swift mango]

Sugar will also get a treasure though.

[shell hazel]

it's sort of forgotten lately

[swift mango]

Sugar is Iron. Iron time will come next batch of treasure. Like Water time now.

I mean just before. Now is wind time.

[shell hazel]

yeah we do have to get some iron buffs

[swift mango]

Maxwell is also Iron.

Next batch of treasure is guaranteed to have them.

[shell hazel]

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

why is it true

[south panther]

I can't play pvp

[keen vapor]

I told you already

[keen vapor]

No

[south panther]

[tropic summit]

you can, just believe in yourself

believe you can fight those 50+ levels ahead whales

@keen vapor send help

[swift mango]

Maxwell treasure will make her burst hit 5, trust

[tropic summit]

maxwell treasure make her burst instantly on hitting B3, max charge, whole screen

[south panther]

I quit playing for a year and now every option I get to play against has all level 250+ while I aint even got level 100's yet

[keen vapor]

You're above me

[tropic summit]

i'd reroll

[south panther]

I DON'T WANNA

[keen vapor]

You know you really want to

[swift mango]

Then you will lose out on your cope Emi.

[tropic summit]

also her burst gen is just like helmT one

[swift mango]

I know you really want to as well.

[crystal flicker]

This banner is one of the best time for reroll

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor here, you may need this 🧯 for that burn

[swift mango]

Well, you could end up with a Kraken who came because of Eva and stayed.

[tropic summit]

i think the actual best time for reroll is when people are less likely to start a new account

then you'll get brackets with higher odds of casuals, either whale dolphin or f2p

i mean my account was made near the end of moran banner, for example

[keen vapor]

I'll be 381 by the end of Eva Collab

Whales will be over me for 18 levels or so

[tropic summit]

harsh times ahead

[keen vapor]

THIS

[swift mango]

Idk, few days before Elegg banner ended but still stuck with 2 whale and an active bracket.

[tropic summit]

there's also something you can't control, RNGesus

[crystal flicker]

This guy just add me today, he's sync 50

[tropic summit]

a baby

[swift mango]

Maybe just max rerolled

This kinda of starter account usually sold for 200$ guess.

[crystal flicker]

It has Chinese name

[swift mango]

At least you aren't in his bracket.

[crystal flicker]

That's true

Wonder what my next bracket will be

[swift mango]

Sometime people save reroll account with tons of gem and sell them too.

So rerolled during Crown banner. Stacked 60k gem from login and sell for 10$ a pop. Then you can buy it and do 200 pull, could core 7 if lucky. But can't compete in arena.

[crystal flicker]

that's the problem, unless he's very lucky

It took me 576 pulls to get a freakin rate up characters

[swift mango]

Maybe with 10 gemmers, maybe not.

[crystal flicker]

maybe with someone from this channel

[swift mango]

Maybe Elegg was very attractive after all.

[wise horizon]

no chance of winning if im Noahless?

[tropic summit]

oof that's an ugly one, your attackers will get murdered

and in your specific case, since also linked, entire link will get murdered

the alternative way would be a tanky comp

alternatively, with bay ideally linked

jackal can be p1 in that second team to earn extra feed and ensure you hit same speed as enemy

[valid fern]

wouldnt his link get rossana'd tho

[tropic summit]

as long as bay hits B2, whole scarlet nuke is absorbed, rosanna will hit invulnerable units

(biscuit)

since no attacker present, her priority goes to p1 and p2

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

merry did a very good analysis on priority, read in case you curious

in case of no attacker, which would be the team above (not the one with helm)

[keen vapor]

Oh thank you, I forgot to save it every single time

[fathom rock]

Just ol on cindy and fight for challenger

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-9186020

[whole pawn]

Cindy is already ol, u mean her stats?

[fathom rock]

Yeah

[shell hazel]

what are you cindy OL's?

[whole pawn]

u know how bad my luck is

[shell hazel]

mine isn't perfect by any means, need ammo

more ele, need rocks most of all to make the dream come true lol

once I get boots for helm I'm probably heading back to Kraken for a bit

[whole pawn]

wait a bit

[shell hazel]

I got this from the blabla app thing

I think eventually i'm going to have to lock line 3 here and re-roll and hope for a decent line 2 to appear

but need to save up some rocks to attempt it, the ele roll is low and it's only line 1

I'm trying to boost campaign team CP some so I can tackle MC and the hard chapters a bit more, so more OL on Cindy for CP is good

[keen vapor]

Charge speed % will lie?

[shell hazel]

I don't have any charge speed on Cindy atm

I feel like ammo is better on her as you don't need to charge up every shot

[shell hazel]

those line 3 DEF oof lol

[tropic summit]

ye but the elem. dmg is somethng else, that's gonna hurt in pve

[shell hazel]

hit rate pointless for her I think

[tropic summit]

if he could get some atk% lines in there that'd be a stronk cindy 🤔

[shell hazel]

does she benefit much from charge speed?

I didn't think she did

don't run off and do anything yet but I'd be tempted to do a couple of things if you had rocks

see what others think first

as an idea you could temp lock middle here and re-roll

def is OK on cindy but she is mostly a killing machine - with middle temp locked you could wind up with ammo or ATK % on line 1 or 3

[whole pawn]

glove should be the priority of locking and rzroling

[shell hazel]

you're malding for a good line 1 on gloves though

you can't lock lines 2/3 here with perm they're both low rolls

that could do with a single rock reset attribute attempt maybe you're likely to improve all 3 rolls with 1 - 2 rocks

[whole pawn]

roll for attack then roll %

[shell hazel]

line 1 long term wants a better roll but it's low odds, 1/8 roughly to get ATK

if you have plenty of temp locks you can

if not then perm locking those lines at those rolls is a mistake

[whole pawn]

either ways

[shell hazel]

she's not terribly rolled, bit like mine not perfect either

[whole pawn]

it's not like I m gonna benefit from doing all this, but if I get attack on that then its gonna be worth it, I will just keep doing kraken for rocks and maybe once I reach 261 then I will try to roll stats again

[shell hazel]

if you can spare the resources

+1 or +2 the levels on your core units

it's relatively cheap

i'm going to zoom over to my campaign team in the near future and do that myself

[whole pawn]

mmmmm

[shell hazel]

slow boost to CP as well

[whole pawn]

idk, I should use these ressources to lvl up pvp gears

some pvp units like rumani and blanc still have one lvl 5 gear

[shell hazel]

ready for rock/OL you mean?

[whole pawn]

and +1 lvl for these ol doesn't really change smt

[whole pawn]

I will just make them 5 for now, I don't have rocks to ol them
they are gonna stay without ol until I find a good stats on pve

[shell hazel]

I just add a single rock for OL if they're on an active pvp team

and take whatever it starts with

it's something I prioritise, if I put the gear XP to get them to +5 I will add a rock asap

if I wasn't going to spend the rocks I'd have been better to up the gear XP on my already OL units

[whole pawn]

I used to ol them as soon as their gear is 5, but now I should use rocks for stats, so yeah, centi rumani and blanc might stay no ol for now, lvl 5 gear is fine for now

it's not like I can reach top 3 anyway

[shell hazel]

I guess it's a matter of opinion there as I can throw rocks at stats and not get what I want

I'll generally go for low hanging fruit i.e. the less risky / definitely benefits me option

adding 1-3 OL lines adds quite a bit of CP

for me this could be the difference between being CP gapped to deficit or not 🙂

[wise horizon]

Hmmm think I forgot to put quantum on helm

[whole pawn]

as a matter of fact, I will stop looking for that attack, and I will roll for gears with bad stats, but still, I won't use rocks to ol pvp because I m bricked anyway, I will 5 them and thatss it

[shell hazel]

suffering from success 😄

hey honestly if I am rank 1 forever and no one ever wants to attack me again as teams too strong - I'm perfectly fine with that 😄

[shell hazel]

I've also graduated from the school of Railtracer

[tropic summit]

but when are you going to cook for others

surely soon enough

[shell hazel]

I do not know enough yet sir

[tropic summit]

lies, but i'll let it go

[shell hazel]

I am like the fledging bird who tries to fly but instead I sudoku myself into the ground

I mean I know a bit more than I did but I don't really know enough 😄

you can't really practice a lot especially at 1st place haha

yeah 2 days for me though the guy in 2nd could win some

they probably got bored of trying as I'd take it back quickly

and I think I invested more here than they have so far

I don't think it's last I'll see of them...

[tropic summit]

reshuffle soon, don't speak too early

[shell hazel]

we got champion arena I guess

2035

[swift mango]

Just OL lv0, no reroll.

[shell hazel]

yeah that is what I do every time

[swift mango]

4 rock per nikke for at least 20k more CP.

[shell hazel]

1 rock away from other rolls every like 3-4 days isn't a big deal, I still get in more rocks then I can spend on OL

[whole pawn]

for support pvp? I should use these rocks for stats on pve instead

[shell hazel]

yup, basic pvp investment

[whole pawn]

ok u know what, once I finish lvl 5 on blanc and rumani, I will ol them at once with centi

[swift mango]

Are you really bricking? I saw you clear campaign pretty well matching your level. Did you not buy event tries for dust boxes for a month or forgot to log in for awhile after creating the account?

[shell hazel]

do people buy dust boxes for a month? 😮

[swift mango]

A month is about 2 events.

[tropic summit]

he means event shop

[shell hazel]

ohhh

I thought it was like a head start strat where you buy the core dust daily packs for a month and you wind up +40 levels ahead 😄

[whole pawn]

I m playing since day 1, so no never quit, maybe because I don't really mald campain, I just started malding it a month ago, before that even 10% was too much for me

but for event shops, I buy everything, including attempts

but yeah, I m bricked on mc, believe it or not

[tropic summit]

for a f2p who was for most part casual on progress, hitting ch ranks is already good enough

you're only bricked if we assuming you could've done better, but that's talking of ifs

there's ppl who will never see challanger and are stuck in upper dia2 or worse

[lucid wave]

Guys can you help me improve this team

[swift mango]

But hey Rosy is currently 20lv behind their bracket but still highest CP amongst the F2P.... Could just invest.

[shell hazel]

i'm there as well but feels like just need more power, and it could take a bit of time

[lucid wave]

This is my team based on power

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[lucid wave]

Thank you

[keen vapor]

Step 1 is never use MG

[whole pawn]

investment probably, but that's all drops down id he has crown, cuz crown buff along with survivability and reload speed is smt I cannot experience

[tropic summit]

la+ treasured btw?

[swift mango]

Step 2: is forget step 1 and use Rossana instead

[keen vapor]

Step 2 is pressing auto once so you use MG

[swift mango]

[keen vapor]

[lucid wave]

Yes Laplace with treasure

[keen vapor]

Treasure early

[swift mango]

Maybe level bricked

[swift mango]

You don't need crown in Arena.

[lucid wave]

Max treasure, and do I need to work on my viper i already have enough mats to max her treasure?

[whole pawn]

I need her In pve

[swift mango]

Treasure Helm first

[swift mango]

Just copium with Maid Duo like everyone else.

[lucid wave]

Yeah im working on it but I don't have enough copy of helm

[swift mango]

When next skill reset come

[keen vapor]

Viper with maxed treasure has less use on PVP than untreasured

[tropic summit]

grave cind la+ anis noise
scarlet blanc rh centi jackal
noah biscuit rapu s.anis sbs

cubes:

quantum on jackal, centi, anis
vigor on noise, biscuit, rapu
resil on s.anis, s.anis must be burst lvl 9 and have no ammo OL, else use SBS as main B3
temperance on noah

wishlist/notes: get rumani can replace then anis, get helmT to get your teams reviewed

[lucid wave]

Thanks alot!! I still need to build my skills on sbs but I will be following this for my future build

[vapid barn]

I’d also like some help for sp arena pls

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[tropic summit]

oh that's a lot of potential, let's get a few questions away

-helmT and laplaceT? If yes, HelmT s1 is lvl 10 and phase 2?
-rosanna investiment? (skills an OLs)
-any battery with 17 CS% ? (rumani, centi, jackal, emi21% etc)

[vapid barn]

-Yes, yes
-Rosanna 7/10/10, 35% atk
-Only Emilia 21%

[tropic summit]

wew that's good enough

[vapid barn]

I’m sure the other batteries have charge speed but I never bothered to count

[shell hazel]

the new blabla app thing can sum up your OL stats which is very handy

[vapid barn]

Oh true

Forgot about that xd

Rosanna 38.80% atk

[tropic summit]

i put centi twice hold on

[swift mango]

Centwo

[tropic summit]

cubes:

quantum on centi, jackal, rumani
vigor on biscuit, rapu, noise, blanc
resil on s.anis, s.anis must be burst lvl 9 and no ammo OL
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

use variation 1 first, if it fails rotate to variation 2

[vapid barn]

Thanks

[keen vapor]

4 max

[misty valve]

Any changes I should make? Recently got Helm treasure

[whole pawn]

I don't think they are used for PvE, mostly crown or grave

[tropic summit]

s1 lvl 10 and stage 2?

[misty valve]

Are you saying helms first skill should be level 10 and have the treasure effect?

[tropic summit]

yep, reached stage 2 of treasure progress and skill 1 should be lvl 10

[misty valve]

It can be lol

Level 7 right now but I have the mats to get it to 10

Treasure is fully maintained

[swift mango]

Mob stage it's depend but boss stage they are certainly better than anything but Crown.

But well, you could always Grave+Helm copium.

And hope the best

[whole pawn]

does he know I don't have helm?

[swift mango]

You could ticket her if you want.

Or use maid duo if you want.

[whole pawn]

you ticket dupes, not the actual unit

[swift mango]

It's an option

You could also just wait for level.

[tropic summit]

you can upgrade to this:

[swift mango]

Reroll dispatch for dust box.

50-70 gem claim everyday

[misty valve]

Thank you! Gonna have to put some mats into maiden as well I suppose

[tropic summit]

@swift mango he's on 33% cp deficit on pve, on pvp he's fighting opponents with 280-300k CP average while he's on 220-240K CP average

that's mostly around 15-20% deficit on PvP

not sure why we still talking about this, it's a done deal: idle and wait to grow stronger

[swift mango]

That's why I said wait for level, could fasten it a bit with reroll dispatch and gem claim.

His problem should be behind on interception farming in earlier days.

[tropic summit]

yeah doesn't help the weird rock investiment and the little malding on early campaign, but again, it's a done deal