pvp-arena

[glad meteor]

But i wanted her to be aoe + rapi

[swift mango]

I don't think Asuka or her being AoE.

Asuka has 3 target hit trigger. And maybe AoE A.T field....

Rei looks like 2 single target trigger at 7 and 18 bullets.

One needs Asuka, one doesn't.

[glad meteor]

I wanted rei to aoi and do likes 11 7 hit triggers

But with ele she can kill iron confirm with single buffer i guess

[swift mango]

Zero buffer even

80-100% Ele is pretty much 2 buffer.

[glad meteor]

True, my boda has like 60ish. And her multiplier weak

[swift mango]

B.Soda with 60 ele won't need any buffer to nukke scarlet, that's certain

[limber rampart]

bro did i do anything wrong with u?

bro waste more than 2k gems on me

[swift mango]

After the first 300 he passed the point of no return. the rest just come naturally.

[shell hazel]

that is evil anchor pfp at it again

guy in 2nd nicked 1 off me about an hour before reset I nabbed it back, think I kept it after maintenance triggered we'll see

[glad meteor]

Moran bisc sanis is the problem

[swift mango]

This looks like the only good use for Asuka in Arena... It will trigger before B3 of 2rl team and before B2 of 2.5rl team.

So Buffable in 2.5 RL team .

[lapis field]

Feels good sniping for c2 spot before maintenance

[swift mango]

Did it maintain 47 minutes ago?

[upper grove]

Rat gaming

[swift mango]

I'm waiting to see what Keripo writing

[lapis field]

Yes. Monitored it til before maintenance starts

[lapis field]

I remembered he rat me before so I'm gonna rat him back. Hehe

[upper grove]

Yup that's fine

[swift mango]

Asuka's essay was so long, not only was it double the text length of Rei.A, she also borrowed half of Rei.A texts for it.

[glad meteor]

If i don’t get asuka from pulls today. Im cooked

not enough mileage, i’d like to chargeback my rapi dupes

[swift mango]

Unless more units released with Annihilation stage. Half of Rei.A texts would be dedicated to buffing Asuka's execlusive skill.

[swift mango]

I would like to charge back 2 fire rei.A I bought with ticket to MLB this wind rei.A.

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

I have to wait a week to collect resources to do pulls (+ gems from sp-arena end of season)

gonna be hurting seeing asuka banner there 😄

[swift mango]

I only have about 300+ pulls.

Maybe could make it to 400 tickets at end of event clearing some Emergency stage.

Barely enough

[glad meteor]

only

[shell hazel]

want tickets from shop I guess and some of the daily sign in ones

yay

steam eeeee gift

[upper grove]

Mast anchor drained pulls, eva as well. No skill books is the worst though

[glad meteor]

Can I get jims with steam voucher

[shell hazel]

<@&946725432554836008>

[swift mango]

<@&946725432554836008>

[keen vapor]

@moder oh, too slow

[shell hazel]

@Modernia

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Time to do 5 resets

[upper grove]

Only unit I can reset is Noir I think. Rest is still frequently used

Maybe fire Asuka

[keen vapor]

~~Modernia and SG team ~~

[swift mango]

My noir is already 555, can't go lower.

[spiral onyx]

Some quick Rei.A2 math assuming her self buffs apply to her AoE nuke:

Rei.A2 + XAnne

990.2% x (100% + 63.36% + 77.2%) x (100% + 35.9%) = 3,237.17%

Rei.A2 + Blanc

990.2% x (100% + 63.36%) x (100% + 35.9%) x (100% + 39.26%) = 3,061.36%

Rei.A1 + XAnne

990.2% x (100% + 25.03% + 77.2%) x (100% + 48.02%) = 2,964.07%

Cinderella
HP/ATK ratio: ~4400%
Defender/Attacker ratio: 65%

1365.92% x (100% + 2.71% x 4400%) x 2 x 65% = 3,893.03%

Conclusion:
She is slightly stronger than the first Rei.A, but still needs at least 1 buffer to guarantee a wipe (2 to be safe in today's world of dolls and Tempering cube). Unless her burst gen is crazy good though, she's just an upgrade to if you're still using 2 buffer AoE nukers (Maiden, MPrivaty, Harran, BSoda) but she still falls short from Cinderella who doesn't even need a buffer (but can use one for safe measures). She does offer a decent team wide 11% atk buff though similar to Noir, so that's a bonus. I would put her at A tier, slightly above her predecessor but not special enough to break into the A+s

[upper grove]

Never had SG team

[keen vapor]

My Cindy needs 2 buffers bc of deficit

[swift mango]

Glad Rei.A1 only a bit weaker.

[upper grove]

7/5/4. Idk if it's even worth to reset

[swift mango]

If you want that s6+7 back

[upper grove]

I could reset modernia 10/7/4

[swift mango]

She just needs 80% Ele to one shot Iron units. Which are 1/3 of Arena at least for average players.

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[upper grove]

Oneshot jackal

[swift mango]

-links

[shell hazel]

think drunk scarlet is still ahead?

[spiral onyx]

If you mean normal Scarlet, she's always been the premium for PvP. No other unit other than Ein has two stack angles, aka both AoE nuke and continual damage post-nuke

[swift mango]

Drunk Scarlet at best getting 3 stack at 2-2.5rl, which are 60% ATK buff.

Rei.A wind already 60%. Plus 30% dmg

Then Scarlet only 880% wipe, Rei.A, 990% wipe.

[glad meteor]

Normal scar even has damage pre aoe, depending on weapon choice

Still no scar on main, oh well

[swift mango]

She has good normal attack dmg before bursting sure +counter. But worse wipe.

[glad meteor]

Yeah, sanis is cooked

[shell hazel]

I kind of don't want her to be crept in power as I like my normal scarlet and was investing in her 😄

so glad to hear she's still top tier

[glad meteor]

They can’t powercreep that s2

[swift mango]

This new Rei.A has 200+% small nuke every 7 bullet post nuke. It's just not AoE like Scarlet RNG counter.

She still hit hard against non biscuit wall team.

Against biscuit+Noah wall+2healers, even Scarlet would lose anyway.

[spiral onyx]

A bit, but not really. There's a lot of iron units used in PvP but they're mainly all supports, not tanks. The units that matter that you want elemental advantage against would be SAnis (electric), Cinderella (electric), Zwei (electric) , Noise (electric), Moran (electric) and Noah (wind).

[shell hazel]

all in on trHelm

[swift mango]

But the tanky Defender and supporter who more likely to survive a nuke are almost all Iron.

[spiral onyx]

Why do they matter whether they survive the wipe

[swift mango]

Most the time a nuke team would kill attacker just fine.

[spiral onyx]

If the threat is dead

[swift mango]

A survived Rapu would rev

And nuke you back.

[spiral onyx]

After a full burst gen rotation

[swift mango]

That's the biggest threat of enemies face tanking you.

[spiral onyx]

If you lose to that, then you were gambling in the first place

[swift mango]

Rapu.

[spiral onyx]

That's why I say even Cinderella wants a buffer these days

She can technically 1 shot... If the opponent is a lame duck

Who doesn't invest in dolls or tempering cube or is generally better invested than you

Dolls and tempering cube were the biggest game changers to PvP

[swift mango]

Well, even with SR15 attacker, defender with just sr0 is still tankier than them...

People often lose to defender surviving the nuke rather than Attacker lol...

[spiral onyx]

Again, this sounds like gambling to me

You can calculate how much HP your opponents units probably have

You can calculate how much damage your attacker can deal

[shell hazel]

imagine having dolls and resources for dolls on pvp units

[spiral onyx]

If you are going in with insufficient buffers for your AoE nuker and hoping you kill enough targets to win, you're a gambling man

[swift mango]

Yeah, most people don't calculate this I think.

Must be pretty hardcore to do this every attack.

[spiral onyx]

I think we did the estimates earlier though, somewhere around my Cinderella post-nerf calculations

3000-3500% atk damage is needed to guarantee wipe an opposing team that has no Noise/Moran/etc

Add in either of those and the requirement goes up to 3500-4000% or something

Add in dolls/cube and you're looking at 4500-5000%

Cinderella unbuffed as you saw above is just under 4000%

[swift mango]

You often only to wipe attackers though. So actually don't need that much.

Only against some specific teams you need to wipe the supporter and defender.

[spiral onyx]

So if your opponent is equal level but fully invested in dolls and tempering cube, you will need 1 buffer on Cinderella to guarantee the kill. Or pray that there's sufficient splash damage before the burst. Or enough post-burst damage to clean up

That's why Scarlet in my mind continues being the premium main carry. She has it all... Pre-burst chip damage, AoE nuke, and post burst cleanup damage

Even if her AoE nuke is "weaker", she makes up for it via the other two

[shell hazel]

plus she has a fantastic hat

[swift mango]

Fantastic Parasol*

[shell hazel]

it's a hat, but also a parasol! 😄

[swift mango]

Yeah, her counter is still pretty OP.

Noah+Biscuit needs healers to block Indom Scarlet.

I don't think they would need a healer to block Indom Wind REI.A

[umbral crown]

close your eyes

[spiral onyx]

Actually, looking at this, I realize that we don't actually have any PvP main DPS carries that are iron and advantageous against electric

[swift mango]

Sugar module would have a 3000% wipe. Trust.

[quick lake]

BSoda is the best so far ig

[spiral onyx]

Probably one of the main reasons why SAnis is still so strong, only Scarlet and a really fat Cinderella nuke really kills her

[coarse lake]

I stopped using scar on atk bc she wasn't doing enough with double buff to be reliable

[swift mango]

Build her Crit rate

[coarse lake]

Meanwhile noise buffed Cindy vs enemy with noise still kills, if I use any other buffer very clean kill

[quick lake]

No crit rate cube this time

[coarse lake]

She can't get to 100%

[spiral onyx]

Volume needs a favorite item

[swift mango]

70-75% is good enough chance.

[spiral onyx]

Like a Hitachi "microphone"

[coarse lake]

Losing half my attacks is not good chance

[swift mango]

ATK is just copium

A crit and your dmg would double.

Get more Crit dmg line

[coarse lake]

When I got ways to win 100% of the time without cp deficit, I'm not using a team that even has 90% win rate

[upper grove]

new lost sector fun

[coarse lake]

Cindy, emi, Bscar are the only dps I use on atk these days

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Cindy is honestly very slow. While she is snap shot. Rapu heal and rev would still mess with it.

[upper grove]

you use bscar like you would use regular scar?

[umbral crown]

Do not think so

[coarse lake]

Cindy speed is not major issue, teammates make up for it

[coarse lake]

Only against no defense comps or indom scar

[coarse lake]

If they got even Noah I don't use Bscar (unbuffed)

[spiral onyx]

Also, blast from the past. My Scarlet dealing a 2.6mil crit. This was back when we were 240 synchro or something like that lol

[swift mango]

Speed is still something to strive for... A 2rl Cindy could lose against 3rl Rapu. 2.5RL Scarlet would often having no problem.

[coarse lake]

I just need a liter tier buffer and that's no issue

Cindy first hit kills target, second hit kills target again

[shell hazel]

I love my steam gift cards

[umbral crown]

@oak rivet

<@&946725432554836008>

[spiral onyx]

@oak rivet @narrow obsidian @zinc lion

Oh it was Moderator not Mod derp

[umbral crown]

I also tried mod and saw nothing appearee

[swift mango]

I wish the next Harmony cube would boost Crit Rate. 30% would be idea.

[coarse lake]

Other problem with scar is reliance on Jackal to stand out

[wicked horizon]

Whoever wrote that link had an absolute stronk.

[coarse lake]

Cindy literally can run with centi b2 and some buffing b1, don't need defense if enemy ded

[glad meteor]

[shell hazel]

they started out with urls that looked very similar, they had to get creative once they got taken down

[glad meteor]

You don’t want to know what it is

[swift mango]

Sometime you could use her with Rapu or Rossanna(+Mana) if you have the right team.

[shell hazel]

it's hit rate isn't it? 😄

[glad meteor]

I no leak

[umbral crown]

Leek

[coarse lake]

There are better options than some sort of sac scarlet

[glad meteor]

I’m a law abiding citizen

[umbral crown]

Me saccing scar uwu

[swift mango]

You could Rev her with Mana then Blanc her immediately too.

[coarse lake]

Ok and rely on counters to kill, no thx

[shell hazel]

sac scar, res with mana

sac her again. res with rapu

[umbral crown]

Eon goes with the safe way

[umbral crown]

Scar without stacks

[shell hazel]

no stacks, just sacs

[glad meteor]

Give me your scar

[umbral crown]

I would

[coarse lake]

Revived unbuffed scar cannot kill anyone, I know bc whale with cored scar revived by xanne cannot kill even with crit

[shell hazel]

the leeks are here

[glad meteor]

[coarse lake]

Wow we getting raided

[umbral crown]

<@&946725432554836008>

[swift mango]

Kill with Counter.

[shell hazel]

I do wonder what kind of people would actually click those dodgy links in discord 😄

[coarse lake]

They bring rapu or noise, insta lose

[swift mango]

Buff with blanc

[oak rivet]

Annoying

[umbral crown]

Doro them

[swift mango]

Maybe need both Rapu and Noise.

[shell hazel]

setup bot to prevent people posting links unless they successfully pick out doro from a captcha image gallery 3 times

[swift mango]

Scarlet could self buff to 5 stack after revive and counter still stronk

[coarse lake]

If scar team can get fast enough to outspeed and nuke, 95/100 times I'd rather do the same but Cindy team, more reliable, more flexible comps

[spiral onyx]

That's the point, some people will fail to look closely and click it

[swift mango]

I'm scared of recommending Cindy team just to make them lose against 1 RL slower Rapu.

[spiral onyx]

She actually does. Cindy's burst is slightly delayed. She will lose to an instant AoE nuke if it's strong enough to kill her and both burst at the same time

[wicked horizon]

I mean, I clicked it.
I trust my cybersecurity knowledge (and my browser) enough.

It's an interesting view into how they design these traps, and what to look out for.

[coarse lake]

Well I would just use Noah or bay in such a case

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

Or outspeed by 1rl and win anyway

[swift mango]

Personal, experience.

[coarse lake]

The only scar nuke I can tank is revived scar

[swift mango]

[umbral crown]

Not skill issues?

[spiral onyx]

Remember, all they need to do is convince one old grandma that her grandson needs a loan of $10k in this "bitcoin" thing

[wicked horizon]

I was briefly confused by it seemingly opening an actual browser window with the correct Steam URL and everything.
Alas, it was an iframe inside the tab.

[swift mango]

Well, we need to account for the requester having weaker roster than the one they want to attack.

[coarse lake]

Single buff scar reliably wipes my defenders btw, 40 sync diff and core diff, anything that isn't Cindy Bscar emi isn't doing reliable dmg hitting up

[spiral onyx]

Or one horni teen on this server who wants to see lewd Nikke pics

[coarse lake]

And Bscar is close to losing to just Blanc, their unlinked defender lives longer than scar indom

Cindy also has benefit of being easier to invest in, less required lines, no pve brick worry going full send

[leaden canyon]

reporting in that this has been working. seems like some rng happens because he can beat it once and then start losing to it. most successful defense I've had against this guy in months.

[coarse lake]

If you just want strong nuke, esp outspeeding, Cindy almost always better. If win-con actually relies on counters, that's when scar can be better, like against no-biscuit dr comps

[swift mango]

We should already have a whole lewd subreddit for that.

Totally free.

[spiral onyx]

Relying on Reddit for your lewds

[swift mango]

Well, for gacha game those are where most lewd pic of characters stored.

NSFW has about as much member as main subreddit

[swift mango]

https://www.reddit.com/r/NikkeNSFW/s/1LO7dP8347

[glad meteor]

Nikkemobile

[swift mango]

If you want h*ntai rather than single pics better go for specific web and search Nikke

[swift mango]

This one is clearly the superior sub.

I mean the one I showed.

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-hmm-pepehmm-table-council-gif-16396395487368552941

[glad meteor]

I saw some sasuga admi once, I don’t use reddit much now

[swift mango]

An example of the sub.

[glad meteor]

I’ve seen the source

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-hmm-pepehmm-table-council-gif-16396395487368552941

[glad meteor]

Did blood get modded

[swift mango]

Didn't know that link isn't allowed.

Oh well, at least now I know.

[tropic summit]

oh wow, he's rizzing anything on sight, a player

careful, some may feel even more motivated after knowing that

who the heck is this XP, go beat em back

[shell hazel]

not even in a union, bricked cube batteries

[swift mango]

Man, I thought nikke community was Nsfw allowed and joined. Looks like it's also not.

[coarse lake]

they do have nsfw section tho

[swift mango]

Where?

[glad meteor]

Need to be degen

[swift mango]

I saw mod channel there.

[coarse lake]

not sure actually, they got a whole category, prob needs special invite or something

[swift mango]

Not Nsfw one.

[glad meteor]

You need the tag

[swift mango]

Did you delete it or the mod delete it?

[glad meteor]

I was never here

[bleak shale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/940187606124224563/1192404247300542535/RDT_20231231_125103918584534370232921.gif

[umbral belfry]

it's a sacrifice to be made

[modest summit]

Any way I can beat this guy’s teams? Been trying for days

[brazen ledge]

Fight t1 and t3

T1 is free

T3 you put noah biscuit sbs centi noise

Should be fast enough, check before

How much cp does that give you ? To see if you can just cp diff t1

@modest summit

Oh it’s rookie arena

[modest summit]

I’ll have to check once I can get in game…

No no it’s SP arena

[tropic summit]

(your teams on the left, enemy on the right)

1st team campaign team
2nd team check CP, if not enough can downgrade to 4RL but throw in some CP padding (instead of noir)

[umbral belfry]

Also is anyone gonna be testing the new units when they're out bc or any first impressions?

[umbral belfry]

oh nvm, looked up and read potential explanations

[modest summit]

Thank you Railtracer -san, thanks @brazen ledge 🙏🏻

[coarse lake]

bscar god comp

[tropic summit]

against indom scarlet you want this (stall oriented)

[glad meteor]

I was thinking noah bisc emi scar team
Scalter blanc xmaido team

[tropic summit]

needs low feed to avoid 2.5RL scarlet tho

i'd avoid blanc/scar

(self experience )

[glad meteor]

I’d avoid emi to be honest, biscuit teams are generally more difficult in my experience. Since I’m scarless

[subtle pilot]

if that doesnt work any advice against the other team (sc in what I replied to)

[tropic summit]

oof that's right, damn hopefully soon to find scarlet maybe during collab banner? 🤔

[glad meteor]

She not coming, I’ll cook without her

[tropic summit]

what a chad

[tropic summit]

alternative would be this, keep in mind it has conditions:

-scarlet must be linked (2nd or 1st highest atk%, OL included), else replace emi with centi
-s.anis must be burst lvl 9 and have no ammo OLs, must be running resil cube

4RL s.anis showcase:

[swift mango]

Noah could beat Emi easily though ....

[swift mango]

Just use wind Rei.A as cope.

[glad meteor]

I don’t like 4rl emi

[tropic summit]

we already cooking with Rei.A

[glad meteor]

I feel like I’m going to brick because of cs

Black line on Noah

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

Then again i have Rosanna

So i eep when noah biscuit emi

[tropic summit]

emi gets blown to pieces with rosanna

[eager mountain]

maintenance delay

[vapid lake]

Better compensate 3000 gems

[tropic summit]

just give everyone the 3 2 collab units for free and we can move on

[vapid lake]

It just struck me that wind rei.A can be countered by og sakura, but realistically how many normal people have a built OG sak with lv7 in burst to just whip out at any moment

[jagged sedge]

Are we accumilating pvp points while logged out?

[brazen ledge]

Yes

[summer copper]

if you're not full, sure

[eager mountain]

give us skill reset and we can move on

[brazen ledge]

Fr

[glad meteor]

PvP points don’t cap, just tickets

[coarse lake]

oh it's so over boys

ggs cindy

[vapid lake]

[coarse lake]

vids of cindy outspeeding noah or bay needed, also when enemy is using biscuit, ping me

[worthy knoll]

There is actually a plus side to this

Those running slow Cindy, will be able to partially hit now instead of completely blocked if they are faster by some milliseconds before Noah shields goes down

[coarse lake]

eh

super niche, unless it completely does not snapshot bay

then maybe usable against faster bay

really depends on how far they fixed it

[eager mountain]

[chilly urchin]

I have noah and biscuit is now synchro'd! how should i change my teams now? or wait until scarlet as well?

[fast relic]

Just got my first copy of OG Scarlet. What skill investment does she want in order to be pvp viable?

[vapid lake]

7/4/7 i believe

Need to be strong enough to one shot entire enemy team

[eager mountain]

their higher s1/b the more likely to one shot

[vapid lake]

Depend on a lot of factors

[eager mountain]

still no campaign quick battle

[vapid lake]

small indie company need another year to work on big feature like that

[fast relic]

Thanks - figured it was a balance between skills and gear. No resources to do it now anyway but this a good starting point!

[vapid lake]

Need to do some testing on ur own

[upper grove]

S2 is good for pvp though so I'd rather go 7/7/7

[vapid lake]

Tibi dp changed to anchor too

[vapid lake]

Very good suggestion, give skill books 👍

[eager mountain]

theres prioritization, s2 wont be equal to s1 or burst unless 10/10/10
thats for pvp, and shes still used in elec weak where s1 matters more as well

and ppl aiming for 3rl blanc one shot anyway instead of focuing on faster indom that cant one shot

[upper grove]

fair point

[eager mountain]

tho yeah the more the merrier... pvp is resource intensive

just that even my hoarded skill book got wiped

[vapid lake]

Buy me $99 skill book pack ?

[eager mountain]

ask rail

[upper grove]

rail secret whale?

[eager mountain]

he used railBlush thats why

[vapid lake]

rail is alice fanboy?

[eager mountain]

i only see him using this emote

[vapid lake]

maybe it time to join him

[eager mountain]

but dev is indeed a alice fan

[brittle hill]

oh good no pvp units, are you guys skipping collab?

[eager mountain]

every offgame event has alice in diff skin

[brittle hill]

the same unit is ridiculous

[vapid lake]

Rei has pvp potential dont write her off yet

[upper grove]

still going for 1 copy

[vapid lake]

Shes a wind ele screenwipe with AR

[eager mountain]

offense use in case mf build their sakura

no books from to do so

[vapid lake]

My eva units going into next sr as 4/4/4

Maids ate all my skill books

[limber rampart]

I need help! Im surely that my 1st should win but 2nd I dont know. Can scarlet clear the whole op team before be wiped out?

[eager mountain]

should be able to kill blanc before she burst

[vapid lake]

Yes because ur opponent put cindy p1

extra feed for jackal and centi

While his team looks like 4 or 4.5rl

Yours will be 2rl from cindy p1 mistake

[eager mountain]

just ur daily dose of p1p2 cindy

[raven plover]

nice app

[eager mountain]

and yet.... the identical line round up thing....

[vapid lake]

Meanwhile me dont wanna dl another app

[quartz prawn]

[thin perch]

What team comp counters this rookie arena team?

[upper grove]

helm gacha took everything

the burst animation/lobby though

[eager mountain]

whole game worth of $ tho

[eager mountain]

well...pretty much anything

[upper grove]

not buying any games atm, maybe new monster hunter that's it

[vapid lake]

The power of man thinking with his lower head, not the top head

[upper grove]

[thin perch]

Yeah I beat it now I realized the only reason I was losing was I was using Emilia burst against a 4rl Noah

[upper grove]

the 10 tickets from gacha gave me asuka

[eager mountain]

oh, better then i thought, guess imma get it then

[upper grove]

ez 10 pull

[upper grove]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-dark-kermit-gif-13921433

[eager mountain]

yeah faster emi against slower noah does that

[quick lake]

Swipe for that helm gacha!

[coarse lake]

oh they simply misindommed bc you did so little dmg kek

[upper grove]

helm gacha gave me wind asuka

saved all my gems

[eager mountain]

but i already got asuka2

[quartz prawn]

if sbs was the one indommed, then am i understanding this right?
biscuit gives invincible to noah -> noah burst -> biscuit gives invincible to noah again to hopefully outlast the blanc indom on sbs

[coarse lake]

you didn't burst as slow as I thought, but you're probably still fine

[limber rampart]

yeh but there is little bit more my scarlet not strong enough 😭

may i change sbs to cindy make any sense?

[eager mountain]

sure, still 2rl thx to p1 cindy

[upper grove]

helm S1 lvl 10, just in time

[eager mountain]

c7 her

[upper grove]

I have enough silver mileage for MLB, saving blue tickets until anchor also joins regular pool

[eager mountain]

good, everyone should, ely wishlist still a*s

[upper grove]

ingrid been cooking since new years though

[eager mountain]

id mlb anchor already if not for the shit*y burst lobby

[eager mountain]

cuz neither maiden nor rapi in ely wishlist

[pastel owl]

pvp became next level if you can find out opponent's data in community

[eager mountain]

[limber rampart]

dmn I realize that op redhood not weak and he got jackal and centi in that position that should be 3rl i have no chance at the start my op too strong i fully defeated

[quick lake]

Dont thinkk u can couldnt see any stats

[limber rampart]

[upper grove]

whale vs whale stat checking otherwise

[eager mountain]

U can see random's stat tho

[quick lake]

or really?

[eager mountain]

yeah, but for u to see pvp opponent's u will need to know their li username

searching for their nik username wont do

[quick lake]

I tried looking at ppl that I follow, cant see anything

[eager mountain]

the li username search seems buggy

[quick lake]

oh u;re right! U can see the random nikkes they put

and also:
How many SP attempts they have left

[eager mountain]

[quick lake]

oh no wtf. U can see all their nikkes and all their relevant OLs

[upper grove]

just updated nikke on pc after mobile, still dropping fps sometimes for no reason

[eager mountain]

i would just say dont rename ur blabla username into ur nik username

they can only search by li and/or blabla username i think

[vapid lake]

Wtf u can see opponent arena attempt?

Stalking ppl on separate app gonna be new thing?

[quick lake]

[upper grove]

taking nolife nikke to the next lvl

[eager mountain]

and well dont make ur nik username same as li username

[vapid lake]

I actually dont want ppl to stalk me like that, are my stats hidden if i dont dl the app

Or must i dl it to turn on some settings to hide them

[eager mountain]

again they cant really have a reliable way to stalk u unless ur have same li username

tho u can hide info

[eager mountain]

i mean they can data mine all profile to find the same uid as urs, but yeah
cyber pvp

[quick lake]

Can just turn off

[vapid lake]

need to dl the app to turn off?

[eager mountain]

u dont

[quick lake]

Got no app

[vapid lake]

My opponent shall not see my arena counts

[eager mountain]

i mean whats the deal with the panic there isnt any realible way to see thru ur stat anyway
and alrady said u can hide those

panik

[quick lake]

I want to stalk Keripo’s investments

[limber rampart]

It call strategy not stalk

[vapid lake]

It call no life

[eager mountain]

if they care enough to mine ur uid they might as well get a way to figure out ur stat stored in database without having u to login to blabla at all, i would imagine their security measure isnt all that great

[umbral crown]

nobody will stalk me uwu

[thorn tulip]

I might lose

[coarse lake]

if those are turned on can anyone who finds your profile see everything

or can you still hide some nikkes

[limber rampart]

I need blabla app have the chat box or something like messenger to saysth to him dont waste gems more 😭

[vapid lake]

it's his gems why do u care

[eager mountain]

everything on they can see every stat
if they found out ur profile likely cuz of having same li and nik username anyway

[vapid lake]

Let him waste them

[coarse lake]

what hides sp tokens? resources?

[quick lake]

everything can be turned off. U get to choose what u want to show

[eager mountain]

daily mission...?

knowing ur nik thus cs is still quite an advantage anyway

[plucky charm]

does this lineup win? mine is on top
highest defecit is 23% on team 2 lineup

[eager mountain]

their leftmost team is 2rl

[plucky charm]

will t2 and t3 win? i dont think t1 wins cause no def there

[eager mountain]

rightmost wins, t2, not sure if cindy nuke will do it with deficit

[plucky charm]

what if i swap t1 and t3 do i just lose both

[eager mountain]

both team lose to their noah

[plucky charm]

will my t2 catch their noah in their t1? idk if that works

[glad meteor]

I expext t2/3 to lose tbh

Oh

Your’s is on top

[plucky charm]

yes

i think my t3 is fine since they have moran, right?

[glad meteor]

Yeah, i expect you to win unless they have cs and kill you link early somehow

[plucky charm]

i have a 21% defecit on t2, is that still winnable? i could upgrade some more equip thats kind of it

[glad meteor]

i can’t confirm to be honest, 2rl cindy so indom can go to anyone on enemy team as well

No buffer as well

If deficit going to need a buffer

Unless indom goes to like naga

Oh

[plucky charm]

his sbs is in 1st place so it might go to her

[glad meteor]

Naga will trigger invul on rumani early, so you’ll have less noah biscuit uptime after burst

[glad meteor]

Cindy hits are random and they burst later

[plucky charm]

should i just send it idk if i should just make a new comp

[glad meteor]

[glad meteor]

Did you send it

[plucky charm]

no im leveling equips for the defecit
he lost to me once before he tried again and won so some combo works

[glad meteor]

Someone could maybe help even though there’s deficit in team 2

[plucky charm]

wym like swap the lineup?

[glad meteor]

I was thinking

scar blanc liter helmt jackal vs scalter team if no deficit
Noah biscuit cindy rh emi vs xmaiden

But idk

Depends on investment, if can tank long enough to burst

[plucky charm]

i'd have to sub anis or rumani for emi since i dont have her

i sent the original team i lost t2

[glad meteor]

Deficit with noah bisc rumani?

[plucky charm]

yea too much deficit i think

rumani isnt built as much

[glad meteor]

Probably. Emi + naga already hurts when not on deficit

Emiless in an emi bracket is tough

[plucky charm]

if i swap out helm with rh i dont go up by that much

the only thing i could see is i use my t2 on his t1 and just match noah at the same time so i dont get scarlet bursted, this way no deficit but idk

[glad meteor]

Cindy got nerfed so may need another dps. I don’t know how well Cindy autos do against jackal linked scarlet with noise noah sustain. Don’t know if it’s possible to get s2’d to death

[plucky charm]

my next best dps is sbs i think

[dire root]

Crown should go in first slot of any PVP team right?

since first slot is hit the most

or hit first

[glad meteor]

I’ve had a sbs die to jackal linked noise noah scarlet before, i think it depends on investment diff

[glad meteor]

Not really, naga helps proc crown s2, but a team with crown naga may be pretty slow

Rapunzel would heal p1,2,3 if all at max HP, but i would assume p1,2,5 gets heal

[dire root]

Cool my team is less about combat power cope now, I could also exchange for naga if I want to, I have tia so they would make a good PVE pair too.

[glad meteor]

Looks rough. RH may have to carry for a while, doubt priv with. When rei.a comes out next week. You can maybe run

Rei.a crown rh anis jackal

[plucky charm]

idk what comp i can do then otherwise, i get gapped by t2 by too much

[glad meteor]

All the cooks are eep

i don’t have much experience fighting God scar

[glad meteor]

Sbs is the most optimal dps then

[plucky charm]

could do this, i meet the tap by 80k diff lol

i would burst first plus rh buff on scar for t2

[glad meteor]

They switched to Moran bisc sanis

[plucky charm]

it was s anis before i clicked the wrong one on nikkedeck

[dire root]

Maybe cronw should be in slot 2 to give her a better chance of living to use her burst.

[umbral belfry]

cindy got what

[plucky charm]

does that setup possibly win?

[glad meteor]

If you cindy has the damage

Moran biscuit is tanky, don’t think cindy nuke snapshots anymore as well

[glad meteor]

Her nuke no longer goes through Noah

[plucky charm]

only deficit is on t2 with 10%

[glad meteor]

I see t2 winning since you burst faster, just need to kill blanc. And make sure they don’t have a faster emi

[plucky charm]

idk i gave everyone on their team a cube and gave her 21% charge just to be sure lol

[glad meteor]

I think it’s like 28% for 4 hits in 3rl

[plucky charm]

i figured itd be faster since blanc + naga on scarlet helps me gen

[glad meteor]

True, that’s like 6 feed triggers in 2rl with just them

[plucky charm]

10% deficit but i have rh to buff and xmaiden doing whatever there
lineup3 might win since i 2rl them hopefully since no deficit there

[glad meteor]

10% cp diff is no stat penalty

15.41% is where the nerf begins

[plucky charm]

should i roll it?

i dont wanna be stuck at d1 for 15 hours lol

[glad meteor]

I’m just worried about t3 damage.

Is upto you,

They won’t have heals from noah which is good

[plucky charm]

only other thing would be swapping cindy with sbs

[glad meteor]

Record

Sbs get’s cooked against moran bisc

[plucky charm]

fugg

[glad meteor]

Cindy should work at similar level imvestment, 2RL and you can maybe snapshot and MAYBE outspeed moran, 3 RL and you add a buffer but definitely need to deal with moran

[plucky charm]

changing out rumani messes up the 2rl

i cant really stick a buffer in without messing something up

[glad meteor]

Yeah

[glad meteor]

You can probably switch mast for anchor

[swift mango]

Since when? Just after this patch?

[glad meteor]

Yeah

[swift mango]

What nerf?

[glad meteor]

She no longer goes through noah

[rich quail]

I do

It’s downright terrifying

[trail inlet]

imagine losing then copying my comp

and then i lose against my own comp once

[swift mango]

Wdym she no longer goes through Noah?

You mean slower Noah?

Is there a patch note for it?

[glad meteor]

Yeah

[plucky charm]

i just attacked someone else so i could get a spot. ill try attacking the comp again when i get 2 free atks tomrrow but thanks for your help

[swift mango]

T1... Kinda win.

T2... 23% deficit? You would lose even without deficit so no.

T3.... Eh lose.

[plucky charm]

t3 won when i tried it, the others lost

[glad meteor]

They’re at the top

[swift mango]

Team 1 also in deficit?

[plucky charm]

no just t2
my team is the top row

[swift mango]

Guess your team 3 had some CS and made it 2.5-2.65rl?

And Noah stole Noise taunt making their team 1 2RL?

[quick lake]

We still dk how Cindy is affected

[plucky charm]

they had moran on t3 so i put normal scarlet there to beat them to burst

t2 i think died from atk deficit and t1 was prob gonna lose anyways

[swift mango]

Okay MB, their team is the bottom row lol... Guess just my initial analysis was right, just reverse it.

[plucky charm]

yea p much lol

[swift mango]

T2 pretty much lose because deficit... Their RH could pierce cover and make it 3rl. Or Emi could have around 16% CS and made it 3rl... And Emi without buffer is weak in deficit. Couldn't kill RH or SBS... And let them burst... Maybe focus on beating team 1 and ignore team 2.

[plucky charm]

thats what i was thinking too

i was thinking to move my cindy team to their t1 and noah invuln their scarlet and my scar-jackal to their t3 since that worked

[swift mango]

Replace Cindy with SBS if you aren't sure about their speed, and maybe Rumani with Noise.

[plucky charm]

i cant change rumani to noise since that puts me down to 3rl even with t helm

for their speed i gave everyone a quantum cube just cause

[swift mango]

It's the CS that we don't know.

Their team is barely 3rl but could change with some CS. 3RL SBS+Noah is fine to deal with that 3rl Scarlet team.

You could also have some CS and your SBS team faster than 3rl...

You could add your units with CS as 17%. And see if your team becomes 2.5rl... Then take the CS of the unit that made your team 2.5rl and count your team real speed.

You could record the fight as well to be sure of your opponent's speed in the next fight.

[plucky charm]

i need more stones to roll cs, rn im trying to get t10 equips on everyone i need

i could get this to be 2.5rl if i get cs on one but idk how thatll mess with the combat power overall just getting to it

[quick lake]

Unbuffed SBS can be hard to take down opponent at times

[plucky charm]

this still gets to 2.5rl but puts me in a weird spot to place units

[frank ingot]

did you attack that commander? how do you win against that team?

[swift mango]

Well, There is actually a small buff with HelmT.

[quick lake]

Yeah, just realised

Might be barely enough

[swift mango]

The buff from RH is nice and all but SBS already has like 130% self atk buff.

Provide his SBS is 10-7-10

Still won't hurt to add another 75%

[swift mango]

I remember RH is in your team 3

Maybe you could use Liter instead for team 3?

[plucky charm]

i could do this
t2 with cindy and rh instead of rumani still depends entirely if i can get cs on noah. doing cs on biscuit doesnt work

[crystal flicker]

what Liter doin there

even XMaiden did nothing

[quick lake]

Liter for buff, xmaid for burst gen

[limber rampart]

Can anyone make me 3 new team def for rotation in pvp? This is my old lineup

[crystal flicker]

I'd choose Centi anyday if he only want the burst gen

[eager mountain]

hes not hitting 2rl with centi instead of maiden unless feed

yall done with campaign?

[crystal flicker]

just fight that SAnis with Scarlet feed, and Cindy for T2

SAnis will always feed ScarDrunk and die, assuming ScarDrunk has the most attack

[plucky charm]

thats what i did, t2 lost b/c of deficit, ~20%

[crystal flicker]

and skip that T1 cancer

[plucky charm]

i was thinking do this since deficit doesnt >10% this way and hopefully noah at the same time
but cant do tn anyways no tix

[crystal flicker]

I think your issue is more about investment, you should have like ~220K CP/team at that sync

yeah, need to be faster than Noah to beat T1

[plucky charm]

i think its slightly faster or equal but idk how it works with his scarlet position

[eager mountain]

basically expect it to be 2rl if u have any ar/smg/sg/mg, rng varies

[crystal flicker]

This also an option

Scarlet shouldn't feed as much with Noise and Noah taunt there

[plucky charm]

yea just rl on the team for that matchup so it might be faster, but idk if itll wipe in time
i can swap centi with biscuit but shes there for noah/rumani to stay up

[crystal flicker]

I think Noah should be able to clutch it, and even if she doesn't you still have Centi to fill the burst order

In the end it depends on whether your Cindy can Nuke them or not

[plucky charm]

oh so move centi to get the team to 2rl regardless of cindy rng

then team looking like this? biscuit not doing anything with her s2 there

[onyx scaffold]

Cindy nerf

[crystal flicker]

That's an issue too for Cindy comp

[plucky charm]

is that team cooked then? shouldnt be too bad as long as b3 goes off before their b2

[quick lake]

Will probably do some testing later to see if Cindy is nerfed

[final wedge]

GG RIP Cindy burst lmao

oh wait...im using her on 2RL team...so it shud be safe

[umbral belfry]

2RL cindy team for me one day

[coarse lake]

half your dmg is gonna get blocked by 3rl noah

if anyone got cindy nukes hitting into a noah or bay team, or even a team with biscuit + defenders, ping me

need to test all 3

[final wedge]

yea i think ur right...i need to test it later once i got bak home

[eager mountain]

her burst hit 5 shots if its 1rl faster by exact?

[coarse lake]

approx yes

before shield goes up

[swift mango]

Well, it's whether his Centi has more CP or not... Also, XMaiden give some attack to indom Scarlet after bursting whatever little it is.

It's attacking team and the other team is 3rl with just Moran as protection.

[torpid crest]

best sp arena team i could build?

wait not sp

rookie arena*

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Jackal with Cp pad

or Noah

[swift mango]

What does XMaiden burst has anything to do with Cindy and SSakura?

Isn't it instantly? Or maybe the extra shot needs another frame to hit.

[crystal flicker]

maybe this

[swift mango]

That's still too vague.

Noah Shield being 1 frame slow than XMaiden burst is just comical.

[swift mango]

That's the extra shot

Only one extra when you burst in arena though

[crystal flicker]

still a part of her burst

[swift mango]

So only one frame.

#pvp-arena message

[crystal flicker]

probably

[swift mango]

They spent time to fix this but not the Cindy decoy's target skip.

[swift mango]

Well, need like 0.33 seconds before their burst 2 I think. Or else They could catch it. Meaning exactly 2.5RL Noah should catch half of excaactly 2RL Cindy burst now, without needing Jackal.

[coarse lake]

3rl noah should be enough

[swift mango]

That's just too slow.

Implying Cindy need more than 0.6RL to get off all her hit.

[coarse lake]

here they b1 later than my b3, at least 3 hits would have gotten blocked

[swift mango]

Well, B1 later still not sure to be 1rl slower. Could be 0.73RL slower and still later.

[plucky charm]

i was thinking since noise is in his 1st spot and i only have rl and snipers it wouldnt feed too badly and i would be able to just barely get it

or just do this since blanc or naga might feed my scarlet in team2 and if i do cindy -> sbs i get gapped

[coarse lake]

shield was on biscuit especially for quite a while

cindy easily takes over 0.6rl to do all her hits

takes 8 ammo of blanc and her full (no resil) reload from cindy start to finish

so that's like 0.8rl from 8 ammo + 1 sec reload (approx 1.1-1.2rl I think)

that's at least 1.8rl low estimates

[swift mango]

Well, this video also prove nothing.... As this was before the nerf and all hits went through anyway.

[coarse lake]

shield = invuln

[swift mango]

Making me waste time to watch

[coarse lake]

all hits went through bc snapshot, if I do it now I maybe get 6-7 hits in at best

[swift mango]

Need new video to be sure.

[swift mango]

Then do it.

[coarse lake]

I can't he doesn't run those anymore

[swift mango]

Then we have no example.

[coarse lake]

if they truly fix snapshotting invuln, 1rl slower noah is easily enough to block second hit for several nikkes, if not all

if they botch a fix then maybe there's still chance extras go through

[swift mango]

It's just theoricrafting.

[coarse lake]

shield effect = invuln, multiple shielded units die on second hit due to snapshot, if shield effect worked properly said units wouldn't die

[swift mango]

Just theoricrafting

There units could easily have random 5% charge speed in your video. Which make it not 1 RL slower.

ASS SG 4rl shot also faster than a RL 4rl shot.

A little

ASS also have reload after 5th shot so it's even more irregular

[coarse lake]

using cindy taking ~1.8rl to get all dmg in, 2rl slower noah might even get to block a single hit

[swift mango]

This look like a miss info.

[coarse lake]

8 ammo from blanc + entire reload without resil

[swift mango]

That's like 0.77rl

[coarse lake]

blanc reload is 1 sec

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Resilience matters

[coarse lake]

what resil

[swift mango]

You know what I'm talking about

The cube

[coarse lake]

the one that I said she doesn't have?

[swift mango]

How do you know? You're her?

[coarse lake]

that's my vid

and I just checked a vid I did today with blanc, exact same reload speed, vigor

[quick lake]

No more snapshot cindy alr

[swift mango]

My bad I didn't realized your team 3 is on the left and team 2 is on the right. Team 1 middle.

Forget what I said before then. I thought the team order was from left to right

[pastel owl]

so how many hits can 2RL cindy land vs 3RL noah?

[quick lake]

First wave blocked i think

[swift mango]

Agent said 7.

[quick lake]

Only 2.5RL Cindy can get pass 4RL Noah from my testing (which is flawed)

[swift mango]

Take it and go test.

[quick lake]

I dont have good test subjects

[plucky charm]

its cool ive been using the same picture and just moving the team over
i just dont know what will really work out

[pastel owl]

will see and test later

[quick lake]

Update really nerfed Cindy

[coarse lake]

still need to see bay interaction

most likely they didn't fix bay, but we'll see

[quick lake]

Oh yes, lemme test

[swift mango]

Well, if they fixed snap shot it means Bay cover will only block 1/10 of the hit.

[coarse lake]

need a vid of cindy bursting before bay can burst, then another where cindy bursts after bay bursts, but bay cover is there when cindy bursts

depends if they fully fixed snapshot or just invuln snapshot

[swift mango]

No matter burst before or afterm

[coarse lake]

cindy snapshotted the defensive state, including any links

[swift mango]

The fixed that

[coarse lake]

they said they fixed invuln, need testing on other defensives

[swift mango]

If they fixed snapshot, they fixed all snap shot.

Not one snap shot and leave another.

[coarse lake]

then she doing full burst bonus dmg on 9 hits?

[swift mango]

They even fixed XMaiden snapshot

[coarse lake]

someone should test that in pve just to be safe

[swift mango]

[quick lake]

Bay cover still works

[coarse lake]

vid?

[swift mango]

Take all 10 hit?

[pastel owl]

any other know burst that is nuke but not instant

[swift mango]

Video?

[coarse lake]

knowing SU they didn't fix snapshot, just made it so snapshot couldn't bypass invuln

ok bay cover snapshot still works (bleh)

[swift mango]

So you just do the fight asap?

[coarse lake]

still need vid of cindy bursting before bay link could happen (but bay still links mid-nuke)

[quick lake]

As in, just tested this team against cindy

[swift mango]

Now we need to know if later Bay could block 1 hit.

[quick lake]

Opponeny is 4RL. Idk whether I can go 4.5RL

[coarse lake]

someone should test noah just in case, non-zero chance they didn't fix squat

[coarse lake]

cover blocked all hits there

so working as before

[swift mango]

That's earlier bay

[coarse lake]

? that's shown in the vid

bay cover keeps taking huge dmg when cover is already destroyed

that's bay cover snapshot working

[swift mango]

Yes, that's Earlier bay

[coarse lake]

ohh earlier as in bay bursting earlier

I thought you meant pre-patch bay

yeah still need a bay that bursts late, midway through burst

see if link applies at all

[swift mango]

I mean later Bay.

[coarse lake]

1rl slower bay is usually fine to test

[quick lake]

My bay died just nice when it was her turn to burst

[coarse lake]

throw in biscuit

[tender valve]

https://tenor.com/view/sora-cooking-food-wars-shokugeki-no-soma-fire-gif-17443420

[quick lake]

Done with today's attempt. Tmr will try again

[coarse lake]

just need to see linkage on other 3 units, biscuit or bay cover doesn't matter for this test

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

if cindy is nerfed here wonder if new Rei could be a valid nuker?

[swift mango]

Yeah, get Cindy is Still stonk against 1rl slower.

[shell hazel]

then you focus on new Rei + Scarlet for wipe instead

[swift mango]

My 2rl Cindy team in SP make my enemies 3rl the fastest.

Should be fine.

[swift mango]

She is stronger nuke than Scarlet.

[shell hazel]

though scarlet has other stuff going for her as well like her counter

[swift mango]

Well, Rei.A also deal 230% every 7 bullet after she burst so not like she is sitting duck after bursting.

[shell hazel]

no they both seem good

[swift mango]

[shell hazel]

but if cindy gets unreliable it's an option

[swift mango]

Rather than Cindy, it's S.Sakura being out of meta for good.

[shell hazel]

ah she was before I started playing

[swift mango]

She served me well before Cindy but and my first non campaign units to get SR5. But now she gonna be reset.

[swift mango]

This is why SR5 is a waste on units that's not your favorite or treasure or meta.

[shell hazel]

cindy is still good in campaign so it's fine even if I wound up not using her in pvp as much

[swift mango]

It's not fine.

[quick lake]

I demand they give us compensation for the nerf

[swift mango]

At least make my Cindy 4 Ele line if they gonna nerf her arena.

[shell hazel]

doubt they'll give us anything 😄

[coarse lake]

also need test of cindy nuke hitting near full hp defender while biscuit is on team

with a single hit doing more than 50% hp, but not killing

I wanna see if they fixed biscuit s2 triggering in time to invuln for second

[swift mango]

Just give her 4 buffers before test and it would be fine.

[coarse lake]

that would 1 tap

I wanna see it not 1 tap to test

[eager mountain]

her point was tanky nuke that doesnt need buffer to get the job done... well...

battery cs more important now if u run cindy ig

[coarse lake]

I hate how this further hurts hitting up

Big whale hitting down with single buff Cindy is enough to kill anything 1 hit no crit

Hitting up gl, need 2 hits, now get half of it blocked

If you're punching down and whale, this nerf basically only benefits you

Cs won't matter unless you play rng game, can't get a 2rl Cindy fast enough in normal circumstances to get through all hits in 3rl noah

[swift mango]

Game is good fun guys.

I'm sure it would be 2/2 before tomorrow

[eager mountain]

thats kinda the point, shes already made with rng anyway
kinda a def thing

[coarse lake]

Now more rng when dealing with Noah, basically no rng previously

[eager mountain]

game takes 0.5s longer to boot each day

[coarse lake]

God why couldn't she be iron

1 tapping water is nearly worthless

[swift mango]

0.5 hours longer?

[coarse lake]

It's prob stuck, close game and reopen

[pastel owl]

worst than before it seems

[whole pawn]

@tropic summit my guy also waited until 12 passed after reset and he didnt let it slide, he even swapped his t2 and t1 and added noise to his t2, this daevos guy is boiling

[swift mango]

First pull of the banner. I'm losing motivation.

[coarse lake]

Yeah they fixed Noah invuln snapshot

Still need slower bay and defender biscuit tests

[vapid lake]

no ein drone fix

I'll continue never sending ein against cindy

[coarse lake]

Got new vid?

Need more data on that situation to find cause

[vapid lake]

No because that one incident was enough to convince me to never do it again

Someone else go be the sacrifice

[coarse lake]

Gotta wait for decoy target skip most likely

Isn't it nice of them to fix the bugs that benefit Cindy and not the ones that harm her

[vapid lake]

[coarse lake]

They doing what they can to keep pvp status quo

Trying to make pvpers die out from boredom

If they had same approach for pve, scarlet would still be top pve dps

[frank ingot]

how to beat this in rookie?

[coarse lake]

Emi/Blanc/rh/helm+/jackal assuming emi is linked

[tender valve]

@spiral onyx this old pick & still 2035 plan

[coarse lake]

If you run that do record and post vid

[frank ingot]

my rh and helm+ will get the link sadly, I don't have multiple copies of emi

[coarse lake]

Then replace helm+ with your highest gen left, and pray that's fast enough

[covert lintel]

rosanna still good at motherwhale 580 tetra tower

[swift mango]

The team u are running not win?

[frank ingot]

Here's the vid. I put centi instead of helm+ . Both runs win

[swift mango]

Use the Jackal version then

[frank ingot]

didn't win sadly, because the noise + rapunzel heals were strong and not enough for b1 of rh

[swift mango]

You won. Nvm

[swift mango]

Just blue it

[coarse lake]

Yeah need double buff emi, triple to be safe, but your helmt atk too high

She doesn't do enough pve dmg to warrant high atk ol imo, better to keep low for this specific counter, that Cindy setup very popular now

[frank ingot]

yeah, 3 people run it here in my group

with the ols also for helm+, truly a disadvantage in my end, she'll get the link together with rh

[coarse lake]

If some more lines on emi gets her linked, work on that

[frank ingot]

already lv5 all emi's ol vs helm with all lv0 ols has a large atk gap

[coarse lake]

How much atk% ol each

[frank ingot]

there's not much I can do except get more copies of emi, sadly that would be impossible

[coarse lake]

Atk lines are the easiest way to fix it

[frank ingot]

I'll try to get more

I just realized that I focus on cs for emi

I only have one line of atk% for her

that one is black lined atk%, 14.63%

[covert lintel]

increasing rh's core will also increase her buff

[coarse lake]

Do some math to figure out how many needed, if it's even doable without nerfing helm lines

[frank ingot]

I'll take note of this. Thank you

[coarse lake]

Atk used for link is just nikke page atk multiplied by 1+total atk% OL lines

[spiral onyx]

There's new frames, but apart from that, nothing we know for certain, anything can last minute change

[tender valve]

we hope you go to FINAL C.A 🍻 🔥

[spiral onyx]

Id be very disappointed in myself if I didn't, but anything could happen, we wont know how the scoring/ranking mechanism will work

[tropic summit]

yeah he's playing the "tracking when you play" game, just keep that in mind and attack 1h later than him, change your time schedule from time to time (e.g. attack after reset after 10h, sometimes 13h, etc)

the main point for you is to ideally avoid getting hit by people you cannot defend as easily against

[whole pawn]

i waited 10 after reset, nothing happend, then after 1 h , he attcked, and i attacked him after, then later he attacked and i attakced him, i think he noticed the 10 h delay, ig i have to check every hour after 10 h from reset

[tropic summit]

hmm yeah he's playing that kind of game

although you don't need to every 1h, make it every 4h or 5h, losing on 4-5h of points isn't gonna kick you out of ch7-ch10 range, although it could cost you ch4-ch5 with barely ch6 range

[whole pawn]

ok i will folow the same plan but i will check more in case he is doing smt

but when i saw him changing one team looks suspucious

btw rail i need to change this team on rookie @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

uh team is pretty good tho

guess you could try a 2RL variation

[tropic summit]

this will be kicked into 2RL with barely any feed

if that still fails try these next

[whole pawn]

kinda weak

[tropic summit]

yeah we already found out the other day that your scarlet team is very low on CP

[tropic summit]

what about the SBS team

[whole pawn]

no sanis xd let me try sbs

no noah

[tropic summit]

so bricked

then go for CP padded team with biscuit

[whole pawn]

i got dorothy today

[tropic summit]

post your first 1 or 2 lines of your box 🤔

[vapid lake]

If u have blabla profile remember to hide ur nikkes and sp arena attempts

In case someone from ur bracket actually stalk u

[tropic summit]

oh even that is shown?

[vapid lake]

Yea other ppl can see if u did ur dailies (including arena) and all ur individual units ol and ol lines

[frank ingot]

how to hide it?

[tropic summit]

did they even think this through when they made that app...

[tropic summit]

try this

[quick lake]

Can disable the setting

[vapid lake]

One of the button at the top right

Opens the privacy settings

Hide ur dailies and ol

[whole pawn]

ig this would work maybe

[tropic summit]

thanks for sharing penguin, i probably have it on by default

[tropic summit]

ye go with this, looks better

[frank ingot]

thanks

[tropic summit]

section is a tad different from browser

[vapid lake]

Go 2 ur shiftypad

[tropic summit]

oh there they are

thank you

[raven plover]

I wanna see your resources

[swift mango]

Well, there haven't been any complain thus far from actual players who lost their arena due to Cindy nerf. Only theoricrafting.

I guess the nerf wasn't that bad.

[shell hazel]

ah nice one I set those 🙂

[tardy canopy]

This player is insane, only one Nikke at lv 200 and already this powerful

He probably have almost 100% built all of them.
Mines are around 50% built, but damn he's still super

[covert lintel]

your team is slower burst, change asuka and naga to RL

[wind kelp]

Oh wow, last night got to challenger 1, today woke up to diamond. Got a quad smack of folks just hitting at right time 😄

[tardy canopy]

I don't care much about PvP (only to get enough tickets for shoo), but thanks for the advice.
Just wanted to show how powerful that player is. When he breaches lv 160 he's gonna blast up in the ranks.

[raven plover]

dps diff, your side almost have no dps

[shell hazel]

wow 1st to 19th is brutal

I reckon guy in 2nd hit me whilst I was at work again, we'll see in a couple of hours when I get home

[umbral belfry]

actually bullied and jumped 😭

[fathom rock]

..........

[swift mango]

Try VPN if you didn't

[fathom rock]

Thats the pvp disconnect bug i thought it got patched

[swift mango]

Partially resolved.

[glad meteor]

Just spent 0.89 to get rs and sr’s

Where helm

[fathom rock]

Atleast me not brick

[wind kelp]

And i was so nice at start of season, just sitting at chal5 and not attacking anyone XD

[nocturne hull]

chat can someone help me out with rookie arena teambuilding ? i have no idea how to do it

[radiant storm]

Finally done, no retries

[tropic summit]

post your box with nikke ordered by strength and we can come up with a few variations

[vapid lake]

rail remember this i finally did it

[radiant storm]

Just blitz through today 32-1/32-33

[tropic summit]

where's the juicy video

[nocturne hull]

this + both asuka

[vapid lake]

wait a while

[tropic summit]

think we gonna find out soon, lad been trying to break it and that's a 2.5RL cindy nuke

this is their chance

[vapid lake]

actually i'll dm the vid to u

[nocturne hull]

@tropic summit

[shell hazel]

does Cindy hold or not!

also skill 10 finally!

[umbral belfry]

@tropic summit is home and it's only a matter of time (a long time)

[tropic summit]

ohoh noice

[tropic summit]

yeah indeed we'll see

[oak gale]

hilp @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

oki taking a look

[tropic summit]

you really sure about liter + s.anis against a jackal in p1?

single buff scarlet also won't kill

[oak gale]

what should i do then?

back then i used to use liter since she was high in power and bc my scarlet was burst lvl 6 , tho rn its lvl 10

as for sanis its bc shes the highest one i have

[tropic summit]

@drifting jasper FYI, use this as sample

[tropic summit]

against that specific lineup, i'd rather go for a slower 4RL noah with dps B3

[oak gale]

so many magical words

[tropic summit]

although i guess you could go for 3RL noah either way, considering feed

[tropic summit]

curious if that promotes to 3.5RL with minimun feed tho, if you wanna try for science go for variation 2 (the team below), else go for variation 1

[shell hazel]

Railtracer a while back we came up with some teams and investments and things

I boosted some units and am not far off getting Scarlet ready, wondering who I should move to next

let's see if I can find it (let me do the leg work here a sec) 😄

[umbral belfry]

should be winnable bc big deficit buuut just in case maybe i should make an actual team with noah right?

[tropic summit]

hmm

that's roughly a 5RL

but it has biscuit so you'll be stuck shooting blanc for a while, while alice backstabs against xmaiden then rrh

i'd still rather opt for a meta team on the safe side 🤔

[umbral belfry]

I beat him in sp arena so I'm not too worried, I'm mostly just trying out teams anyway

[tropic summit]

since it has high feed you can do usual scar-jack or any lineup with jackal linked nikke in p1

[umbral belfry]

no more meme team mere noah

lemme borrow your scarlet mine is trapped behind wishlist

[tropic summit]

yeah it's good you putting some thinking, you never know maybe next reshuffle you get actual opponents

post your box @umbral belfry let's see what's next best option, but it's probably cindy

[umbral belfry]

i got isekai'd here and i just

[umbral belfry]

mostly my main ones

[shell hazel]

dunno if I can find it haha

[umbral belfry]

ignore the order of units

[tropic summit]

could search for @mention or @from

[copper creek]

uwu whats this

[shell hazel]

erm maybe if I post my current teams and what units I have we can make plan b for adding helm again somewhat? 😄

[tropic summit]

give me a taste of your RRH shall we

oof wait no RH? 🤔

[copper creek]

you could fart on him and you'd win

[umbral belfry]

no