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mhm
soon 
@tropic summit
those were blue packs 
10-15 with x15 blue, i'm gonna die tomorrow 
how much luck did i just burn
show teams of ch1, ch2 and ch3 and show us yours
can't see S**t but looks like ch3 might be doable
chal 3
looks like with a bit of effort you could be in range
chal 4
and their t2 and t3 look very scar-jackable
cp deficit
wait that's ch2?
i don't think I can beat Chal 3
20 lvl above me and has more pvp units
I have to go, maybe after reset I will check and wait 10 h
I have smt to do rn
@keen vapor
she's here
I need more cp for chal 3, IG my peak rn is chal 4 xd
you can run campaign team with defender in p1 + biscuit and 4RL against T1, T2 has a lot of feed and non-indom scarlet, could do a 3RL indom B3, ignore T3
record the match if you try
10-15 on blue packs please can you pat my head for luck? π
something like the above
unbelivable was ready to spend purple and gold on that
is that for Helm + are you getting her skin? π
oh stage 3 isn't even too far
once I get 100 blue + 20 purple I'm going to gun for Cindy SR-15
maybe today if bulletins treat me alright π
working on it also will be a few days ahead
oh would you look at that
π€¨
yeah do that
remainers from the lappy days
I was dumb and opened them as I went
the treasure item boxes, think if I had saved them I'd have more materials
Helm skin is a must get for me 
yeah treasuring her but then still looking like a normal skin is kinda sad 
guess that's my fate as f2p anyway
almost there
send me some when you done yeah π
now for the last savings π€¨
gl 
nah it's not as important for pvp but still want it done π
soon TM
3 days practically with reset basically now
Helm?
Nice
game was actually kind to me on dolls side, just x10 blue from SR10 to SR15
24 CS soon 
unlike SBS that i've still PTSD recovering from
π
Now the game will brick you for a month or two
hi munchie 
I got helm treasure and have got bad luck ever since
possibly, hell i gotta watch out if i step on the street tomorrow
might get run over to balance this luck
someone ban this guy
nah 10 blue kits
yeah 10x10kits
yup
eh that one is still ok
but still very low % to get great success no?
if u got it with 1 attempt of blue i might have done the job myself
nah that'd be downright broken 
Thatβs like pulling a ssr if Iβm not mistaken 
my Red Hood got from SR10 to SR15 just via exp, never procced
my cindy also...
you kidding me 
i'm not sure i could physically recover from that
Me with lap+ 
I couldn't believe when I was losing the 2 50/50 or whatever it was at the end

640 pulls no cindy + that
i was so tempted to chargeback all my transactions during 2anni lmao
@shell hazel did he atk in the end?
wrong hippo sir π
someone send help, 3rd is going to waste my attacks tomorrow and I'm going to end up being 3rd and he is going to end up being 8th
not yet, I just swapped a couple of teams about (same teams diff position) in case they had atk planned and ready to go
the f is 4th place doing tho
should be 3rd or 2nd
just spank them
blending in
uhh
he is running 2 pve teams as defense
I smell deficit penality
well yeah
how the f is your scar-jack team so weak on CP
please put rocks on core pvp/pvx units
and damn rumani biscuit alice cindy are weak af
yeah you've no chance there @whole pawn , stick to ch4 
told u
invest in those poor units 
2 mins to go
you should be able to contest 20 level difference
blanc isn't full ol, centi is half ol, blanc and centi no doll, scarlet doll is 5, her burst is 7
mmmm I can't , remember I need to push mc?

if I invest on these it might be a loos since I have to push campaign, I m currently using rocks for Cindy ol, and I only have 2 rocks rn
heal me from this physical pain 
I need like 3 RL dolls 
oh wow its already been 5 months since i was actively cooking here
so yeah best I can do is chal 4
man time flies
we used to be Dorothy gang
show us your progress and progress of that ch3 (hard mode)
just click on their profile and SS
if you're ahead in campaign you're excused
I'd watch an anime about a bunch of doros tearing stuff up
A cartoon*
it's reset time
my 4th might be a whale tho, idk
nah, that's clearly f2p, look at all those maxed core
and just 44 costumes
surely f2p
10/10 f2p
not 70+ costumes, small fish
safu for now
that's f2p you can tell by the lack of cores
we're at the same exact spot
why is bro Crownless?
nor mine
ye that's the ch3, what's your @whole pawn
fk I closed the game
I m stuck at chapter 14-21 hard mode
well I'm at the same spot as your chal 3 then π
at what sync are you again Hippo? 
@tropic summit
239 and commander level 271
may get 240 today thanks to event core dusts
Rail! 
241 powerspike
I'm rich Rail!
yeah I want it to move hard mode on a bit not sure on MC yet
behind of 2 hard chapters uh, so you doing worse on both pve and pvp 
......
why you talking about me
the lad is also on only 7 costumes, likely f2p (they're mostly core-less)
are we getting the next two chapters next update? I'm sick or hoarding core boxes
we are yes
hi, im your friendly f2p
aye in like 2 days
the parallel you maybe 
if im cringier about it i could be kamui
ugh ofc I am , crownless and I cant push with my current situation
actually f2p 
aye, well that's not much you can do about it, ch4 is still a decent result
stick to our original plan and keep reclaiming, no worries 
not opening core boxes is so not worth, delayed my 461 powerspike by like a month to get 4k more core dust
he probably started before me and he has higher synchro lvl than I do anyway and has more pvp units, it's not my fault, it's just luck diff

regardless, ch4 is gud enough for the current you, keep it up
he needs ch1
thank you, lets pray I won't be below chal 5 or 6
probably the one I took his chal 4 is going for revenge
try and stay 4-6 is a good goal for now I think yeah
I can't
you'll be deranked likely after reset, remember the plan to play around the same time as today and you'll have a positive points score
keep reclaiming ch4-ch6
definitely f2p, no costumes
let's wait 10 h then
s.anis and emilia core 0, yeah f2p
no max core Cinderella, not even worth looking at
few days ago I got my 2nd max core char
640 no pull cindy should be suable (no pun intended)
it's funny, because I also pulled 640 on the Cindy banner (4 copies)
meh its ok
considering i got c7 crown as an actual f2p at the time
i just consider it my luck balancing out, + actually everything in my life was going well for me at the time so i just took it as the world balancing itself
arena bros too
280 to get 1 x rapi here
it was painful I can't imagine going twice that distance for 0 π
ok need naga gloves today MC
my worst was 240 for Mari
winnable ?
this aight for drunk Scarlet OL right?
would be nice if u had atk in line2 but yeah this is fine
not bad for a first roll I think π
yeah definitely not bad at all
awesome happy with that π
Hello :3 can anyone help me with my teams? Got some new pulls (SBS/Jackal) and would appreciate any advice
@tropic summit bro didn't wait, he took my chal 4 xd
I will wait after 10 h and check
yeah that's normal
just keep repeating what you did past 2 days and you should get a positive enough gain in score to earn ch4-ch6 reward in best case scenario, else you still get ch7-ch10 (2.4k or 2.1k)
taking a look π€
1 more week until SP reshuffle 
better keep my fodder gear to see if I have to OL more pvp units or if I can get away with going more for pve 
yeah if they whale more than me that's fine, if they buy more than skins they can beat me. As long as I can keep C1-C3 
alice blanc sbs noir jackal
maiden privaty anis rh noise
dkw crown liter bay rrh (cp padded temp team)
wishlist: noah, biscuit, rapunzel, centi, rumani, cindy, scarlet (get teams reviewed once any of these are found)
push toward helmT once available
what's your quantum cube lvl?
rookie reshuffle time 
best part about rookie is testing teams anyway 
5 whales incoming to my bracket trust
and baiting ppl with bad teams so they don't know how to beat my SP teams 
my rookie arena team is just my campaign team
might change it next reset we'll see π
hippos gonna magically poof into my bracket and bully 
guess you could do this, pick the one with the better CP distribution π€
@umbral belfry can I ask you something out of curiosity? π€
curious what that discord hero is doing with his bio
π€
LMAOOOOOOI I got u

lmao what a chad
w rizz

i'm on my way
is that guy same bracket?
yeah
he's c2
1 more week before he maybe disappears from your bracket (or rather you disappear from his) forever 
someone added me on friend list after failed to hit me 2 months ago, now that he's on friendlist we have the silent non aggression pact 

maybe he just wants to check campaign clears 
leviathan vs rizzler 
he got ahead of me in campaign pretty quickly, mostly bc I've been slacking off 
you are just biding your time to strike 

hime playing the long game, giving ppl chances before crushing their dreams
not everyone is a campaign malder though, I like doing it but sometimes I question my own sanity 
25-30% deficit and you become a man with beard 
ty for reminding me to watch that anime 
i love momo, one of the most fun characters made so far
I heard it's really good
aye, simple and fun
this was "only" 19% but I barely managed to kill it, even the game thought I died 
behemoth and MC are huge walls though
dandadan good manga&anime 
true maldin' life
@keen vapor have you watched dan da dan
if rest of bracket is stuck it's worth it 
Yes, I have watched Dandadan
and what mark/score? 
8 - Very Good
What a cliffhanger 
manga is also great, artist has some insane double spreads
second season this summer, gotta hang in there
Gonna read Anchor episodes before they go away 
I don't want it
I wasn't sold on base anchor design but her bond story is nice 
be careful that rapipi doesn't screw you over, happened to me 
Not even Free skin with new voice lines? 
less slacking, more movin'
that's just... holy f 29% deficit 
after MC it's smooth sailing until ch34 boss though
I was going to wait for 241 prob tbh
MC is kinda special though
yeah I can see that π
wasn't wanting to mald it too hard I'll just try it at new power levels
cindy SR-15 doll + burst 10 skill + 241 will help
I killed MC with ~24%? deficit and the first slipper is the benchmark for killing it
sync was 245 afaik, cindy with lots of ele % carried
you can just test vs MC with a full burst B1 RH -> B3 and if it's enough to kill 1st slipper you are usually fine
mine isn't perfectly built need more rocks (rock gods aren't listening atm)
send them to the mines
need gear still as well though still missing gloves for Naga
my cindy has some ammo lines and 0 ATK, but 97% ele
she had to carry vs all those crystal chambers, MC and behemoth
not been lucky enough to get any, trying to get those first
more cp = helpful here I think
yeah less deficit is required for MC because of stat penalty
the DEF increase of slippers makes ATK and ATK buffs more important than usual
I could push skills on main team a bit more but it's at the cost of some other units
crown is 7's, as is naga, and rapi isn't all 10's yet
rapipi worth the most
crown S1 reload is huge quality of life though
I had to actually replace rapipi with Liter for MC because rapi atk buff was not enough. you have RH B1 though so that should not be an issue, I only had Alice
may see how the sp-arena reshuffle looks as to whether I can chill on pvp units a bit
no whales 
no whales 
they hear your fears
tadpoles incoming
that probably triggers someone's phobia
imagine living in australia and being scared of spiders 
......... 
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^ really good btw rec trying if you slept on it
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dayum that's pretty high score
it's a really unique watch
this
This is giving me Planetes vibes
it's good for all ages
dayum
I could tell
Planetes vibes 
oh ye watched it years ago
masterpiece
looking back at what i scored with 9 or 10 makes me feel like i wouldn't score them again as such if i watched them again 
who was this?
cindy SR-15
oh dayum

i'll save now until next SR
very happy with that and oranges are the hardest ones to renew so glad I didn't have to burn them all π
yet
oh I've had the opposite before
RH was SR-13 almost SR-14 before I got a jump
I should probably bump up Rapi from SR-5 tbh
Some cp
oh relatable, i'm also about to strike le ch1
soon...
record it when you do and post here I want to see annihilation
where can i find the latest pvp meta teams? I have every Nikke, synchro level 465, most meta units are OL. Prydwen and other sites I've gone to always seem out of date.
Nixe, thats the way
Thank you!
Can't crack challenger on my own
you can post here their lineup and we can suggest what to run against them if you want
does ur noise just explode in variation 2 i consider it once but i think mine might just straight die 
mine can survive on 10% deficit a 2RL even on rosanna pressure
although as Eon suggested, she might die if specifically targeted with elem weak SG spam
but at my synch lvl i don't expect anyone to pull it off as of yet
vigor cube, SR10 doll, maxed OL body, C1 π€
mines like 777 with no cube 
should probably consider getting her boots and head too tho
more HP helps on sustain too afterall
noise doll 
theres also 2 centis there i think
oh ye that's an anis, nice pointing it out π€
Challenger 8, I was able to beat this guy a few weeks ago but it seems like he woke up and started actually playing the game
updated for reference
you posted 1 twice there
uhuh let's see
oh wow
2 very scarlatable teams... 
let's go with this for starters
(your teams are on the left)
put them against those teams on the right, send screen with CP, if you good we can then run
the teams above assume you've helm treasured and laplace treasured, send box in case
(nikke ordered by strength, first 4 lines are enough)
let me know if i set it up right
is laplace + helm treasured?
yes
helm s1 on lvl 10 and stage 2 treasure? π€
yeah both teams around 10% deficit, should be doable
oh oke
well it's not a big issue for scarlet team
do scarlet blanc rh centi jackal instead, let's re-confirm CP afterward
yeah ok we in deficit here of 16,5%
let's rotate centi over and switch with la+
so it becomes
scarlet blanc rh laplace jackal
noah biscuit rapu s.anis centi
gonna need to ensure scarlet is higher atk% than laplace tho, overloaded gear counts toward that too
i'm checking but in worst case scenario centi still tanks CP, we could actually run helm on s1 lvl 5 π€
Scarlet is about 2k higher attack than Laplace
after OL calc?
any OL on gear isn't shown for ATK %
yeah, like atk% lines in total for each
example: if laplace has 20% atk lines and scarlet has 10%, chances are laplace steals jackal link
not the correct behaviour for our hero
do you want to see the gear?
as above add the ATK % lines up on both and see who has more works here
they are pretty close so if Scarlet has more ATK% or it's the same she'll have more
lad is living on the edge, atleast the other comp has rumani incase
i have no atk% lines on scarlet and only one on laplace for 6.18% is that what you were looking for?
my helm t steals link
@worthy cave just post your box, probably easier 
yeah so you take the atk value and mutlipy that think she'll win π
my helm t has like 3 atk rolls and 2 ele 
sorry what do you mean by box?
along with max core and lvl 15 doll
175604 * 1.0618 = 186,456
example:
first 4 lines is usually enough
ok
so Laplace would have more atk than Scarlet for certain in battle
we can roughly tell investiment from that 
just check link on shooting range 
it's probably stolen by helmT and laplace
scarlet with no atk% 
and centi tanks CP
I didn't get lucky enough to get any ATK % on scarlet yet 
yeah there we go
can run ice maiden though like I do?
scarlet on 2nd line and behind helmT and lappy
lower attack still burst gens
at least unlike centi xmaiden is on 3rd line π€
@worthy cave try scarlet blanc rh xmaiden jackal and we doublecheck CP
or noir or another gen that has less atk maybe
noir steals link
she's right behind helm 
close to scratch the idea of indom scarlet to just go 2RL cindy 
oof yeah that is close lol
holy
going from 220 to 221 gave me like a 20k+ cp increase on sp arena 
record it and leggo 
now i attempt to mald ch27 again 
go get em
wat if u just booty blast that noise with laplace bsoda ele dmg
and then aoe wipe ein
yeah that's an option
just need to kill noise and team falls apart
C7 noise not enough to prevent that?
no good lol
too much faith into bricked scarlet i guess 
oh you got bugged out tho
blanc failed to land indom, you stepped on a bug 
what are the odds
you probably need more investment in the core pvp units in general here
it's fine, do the same exact thing but on the other team, you just got unlucky
run same scarlet team against rrh, they've less early DPS
you'll hit indom and wipe
ok let me set it up
damn what unluck tho, i've seen it maybe 3 times happening
the other team lost as well though?
there's an open thread about it
oh yeah wtf is this
is the lad fighting an hacker? 
am i being victimized?
i'm honestly confused
there's no reason to why biscuit should be immune
especially when dead
and dead but they still target them
what in the world is poor ol' alex fighting 
can people even hack this surely this is all server side stuff run by shift up?
might be some weird interaction with anis and biscuit but i've never seen this b4
do u think a c7 noise will stop my 70 ele soda?

@worthy cave since weird stuff is happening, let's do this instead:
laplace prob also would have ele no?
ignore the blanc failing to indom, of that we know, but what in the world is the biscuit dead while immune with taunt?
@glad meteor @coarse lake @worthy knoll @quick lake 
what about the cubes?
temperance on noah, vigor on biscuit rapu, resil on s.anis, resil/bastion on cind
quantum on xmaiden and jackal, vigor on blanc, resil/bastion on scarlet and RH
good thing he recorded, that stuff with biscuit is some weird stuff 
The vid is not loading on my side
it loads OK for me but you can't skip ahead π
yeah took me a while to buffer too
Me too 
Download it and reupload it in YT or something, you know where to show it 
Too good quality
Even if mine has 4 black def lines, SR15 and vigor +15? 
Maybe its not mobile friendly
at least i got one round
What happened, where did biscuit get immune from?
I clipped it here
Is it this @tropic summit ?
I don't see anything wrong on it
it's also uploaded in the other cord
take a look at that biscuit π€¨
Enemy or ally?
Itβs just the formatting, itβs anis whoβs getting hit
Yeah she is getting damaged
The immune is on top Anis chibi
yeah but where's s.anis burst skill going?
priority wise should've been at least ein due to atk%
makes no sense what we're seeing
Holy max ammo on sanis
oh so bricked s.anis

The immune you are seeing is SAnis normal SG attack on Anis not S2 
You need to take max ammo off of sanis
I get the feeling it's investment into the units that is making the difference here as well
like the opponent has more invested in each one in general
oh for a second I thought I had locked in the ammo on SAnis. so i should just lose it altogether for her?
His SAnis bricked, need to have not a single speck of max ammo line/cube and need burst skill lvl 9 for her to do her job
Max ammo brick sanis s2, so need to remove it
ok got it
might be worth reviewing overloads on your pvp units in general as well
if that is wrong some others could maybe be improved also
here is everyone on the last suggested teams, let me know if there are other units you want to see
@polar echo send a dm when you have some time , wanna ask you something
for support units OL matters less but still want some OK ones if you can - for DPS and core attack units it matters more
looks like you're locking lines kind of randomly to me - never lock line 1 if you can avoid it, unless it's super high value like black line/blue line awesome stats
Black and blue line 1st slot donβt perma lock
you can use temp locks more to save on rocks
your scarlet only really has ammo lines and it's all line 1 stuff more or less
You wanna get 1 good stat on 2nd or 3rd line to lock and get smth good on 1st
2 good lines per gear isn't too bad - 3 is amazing
I got 2 ele lines on ein today, Iβll try to build her a bit for mirror container
I wouldn't perm lock this low ammo roll on line 3 here for example
I stay with 2, 1 on units that I rarely ever use
Who tf did that
was looking at OL lines on this #pvp-arena message
can dl the video but yeah it's buggy
check here for some idea on what to get on good OL lines per unit
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1SGm58euwr0KntlWU4SEJrhNFTFNkKp7h41HiSKMF2QQ/edit?gid=668853492#gid=668853492
I go on prydwen or use my brain
that helps as well but I like the guides for some idea on units I don't use often π
rather than blindly rolling em
most common dps are obvious but some have skills that don't want ammo, or don't mind crit etc
atk / ele / ammo is a typical dps want, but some don't want ammo like s.anis
for scarlet re-roll the helm to get something better than def, you locked line 3 may as well leave it locked for now and hope for a decent line 1/2
DEF is pretty useless for her, you want ele / atk % ideally along with the ammo rolls
the other 3 pieces on her need full re-roll and try to get better stats on lines 2/3 again
your RH has way too much ammo rolls
re-roll this as a priority
this probably has all the ammo you'll ever need more or less for her
1 decent max ammo line for RH is plenty really
I'd leave that helm alone the other stats are OK and it's good cp padding
this also needs full re-roll as you simply don't need the ammo here either
Thank you this is really helpful. I tried doing it little over time based on recommended lines but I should probably just focus on one character at a time. I have some rocks so I can try to reset the priority ones.
feel free to post your rolls here
we can help decide what to roll/lock etc
and what piece you are working on to roll
ok I will post here when I have time to work on it tonight
i'm off to bed but I'd work on your core dps as mentioned, scarlet, RH, probably s.Anis
I see you rolled ammo off her but some questionable ones left π
for s.anis this piece is actually decent enough I think but I'd re-roll attributes those rolls are low
basically bottom stage rolls, anything should beat them
reset attributes option to chance improving the stats
I don't pretend to know what I'm doing with OL so this will all be put to use lol
this one - it re-rolls the values
anything locked isn't changed
don't lock these both are low, just hit that and it will re-roll them, you can get up to 30% ele and like 12% ATK
so 12-13% and 4.77 is low
re-roll this
that is pretty junk atm π
but yeah gather your rocks and focus on one at a time, doesn't have to have everything perfect just improve the worst stuff
your cindy rolls aren't amazing but everything has 3 lines on and it's cp padding nicely, I'd leave her alone for now
yeah I'd focus scarlet / RH / s.anis a bit those can be improved
ok got it. i got 100 rocks saved up, I will just work on those units first
wow lol
do check your rolls with someone here though it will help save you wasting too many rocks
i will, thanks i appreciate all the advice
@quick lake save me plis 
These had been my spa def teams for some time already
I also have bay and rumani but they are uninvested
Can I improve this def team more?
Sync 270 yet still under 300K 
ive just begun my journey of OLing pvp units 
4x black def lines sounds like troll to begin with cuz if the enemy has 4x black ele or atk theyre gaining more 
prob better off saying u tinkered with cspeed so noah taunt overrides, probably would reduce more damage 

Unbuffed ein kinda sus, maybe when you get helmt you can run fast cindy
Hello guys! There are some kind of meta teams for def now? 3 best teams for def. Considering that I have every girl.
Scarlet Jackal
Cindy 2RL with Treasured Helm
CP Pad / SAnis/Emi comp
Scarlet not linked
Cindy against Blanc is usually a bad idea
Rumani/crown/biscuit/centi/Cindy setup might barely work 
Main concern being crown stealing an invuln maybe
With 17% damage reduction?
no way
I actually wanna see that p1 Rumani vid, should work about as well as most other Bscar counters
First vid a few sec of crown invuln wasted bc Rumani invuln overlap, if Rumani gets both, you get more invuln time
will try 
didnt work 
you might have that if cindy didnt reload tbh
maybe switch to resilence π
out of attempts, but i can try tmr if able 
looks like a very close draw duel even with resilence. but u can at least have ammo when her indom is over.
why skip t1 though, isnt she feeding with her cindy
hmm
yeah still not enough
indom bscar too stronk
ppl tell you there are hard counters to it, but not really
true 
i just saw sbs and was like hurr durr biscuit + def easy counter lol
wheres ur sanis?
sakura debuff gets offset by blanc, noah biscuit or taunter biscuit runs into last few hits issues, when you don't have invuln left, can still get wiped
rumani p1 is basically the taunter biscuit "hard counter" already
Generally 2.5RL Cindy nuke vs 3RL Blanc might not win. Blanc can still proc her indom so not reliable counter
unless cp diff forcing you to fight this, just don't bother imo, or run a slower blanc comp
my cp compared to opponents are pretty low. itll be hard slottin in s.anis maybe π€
them being linked and you killing biscuit in 1 hit makes it very unreliable
probably bordering on impossible without going faster, you're not killing the linked units without several hits
unfortunate. that was the only dude i could attack to get top 6.
why are you using noah in t3
it was close
idk im not good at pvp 
Yeah. Even 2RL Cindy vs 3RL blanc, blanc might still proc indom
don't try to outspeed that imo, jackal hit gets wasted, need both alice and bscar to get hit early, one of them prob needs to be crit
... or
you got blanc? I got a hilarious setup for you
Sakura is a buff right?
wait why is that?
dmg taken debuff, opposite of blanc
Affects all allies 
yeah i got her
here's the thing
you don't need to burst fast at all, as long as rumani stays p1
so just run a slower comp using blanc as b2 (to outstall)
wait no
you need noah p1, forgot rumani doesn't work like that
bring noah over from t3, noah useless there
wait lemme just check my old vid
Because Cindy's nuke is delayed, she can kill the other units first, meanwhile Blanc procs and Indom SBS (or SAnis)
oh I do have idea, using noah invuln to extend duration of invuln
seems like 2rl cindy burst at 3.16 seconds.
3rl - blanc will burst at 3.74 seconds.
cindy burst takes that long?
Against Indom Blanc, can do a delayed +0.5RL Indom SBS counter. Otherwise it would be faster by 0.5RL scar nuke
hmm not built rapu tho. their cp very high
Idk. I rmb K said before, that even 1RL faster Cindy might not always be safe
the jackal scares me. it shows its 4rl team but im not sure how much jackal will affect that 
U standard attack teams should be ur current Scar Noah Jackal
and then Cindy team
i can also just hit their t1, but if u want to experiment with teams, im ok to try tmr
Exploit that P1 Cindy 
noah/biscuit/liter/naga/cindy 5rl comp, no quantums on anyone
sure can try tmr. want me to ping u vid?
well actually idk if he gonna drop down anyway lol
oh nah i cant make a fast team with high cp
Stop playing P1 Cindy 
yup
oh bruh, enemy team is base 4rl, that's why
.... I was gonna suggest p2 cindy, but that isn't making them fast enough
p1 cindy time
cindy/noah/liter/biscuit/rapunzel, is that enough cp


as long as cindy doesn't invuln, you got no problems
rapu is there to make sure that doesn't happen
they burst probably 2-3rl speed, they trigger noah invuln pretty quick, but all of bscar's dmg get neutered by it anyway
when it's about to run out, you burst and noah invuln, giving you few extra seconds of team invuln
enough with cubes 
when that's over, you got another dose of noah invuln, and enemy blanc runs out well before you run out
if your cindy doesn't have enough dmg to kill their biscuit and alice it could be a slight issue
but probably fine, single invuln blanc
thats pretty ingenious 
if i can ill try and fight them tmr
They have alice to buff as well
never had i thought p1 cindy would be viable
@tropic summit naw...I'm staying so hidden
Damn, T.Helm alr? 
T1: Skip
T2: Rumani Noah Cindy Emilia Biscuit
T3: Scar Centi RH THelm Jackal
Ur attack teams are bad 
oh really? any advice on what to invest in for attack?
I think u have all the units and investments, it mostly a skill building issue
Standard attack teams are:
Blanc Emilia RH Biscuit flex
Scar Blanc RH flex Jackal
Noah Centi Cindy Biscuit flex
Blanc SBS/SAnis Biscuit flex flex
Ur pvp units all quite high cp 
Yep! Should work
My standard attack teams 
nope π¦
at the end it was only my indom scarlet vs his indom scarlet and I lost
Can try swapping Blanc out for Centi 
I'm definitely done for
@tropic summit @swift mango
He is 363 level
My bracket not only has whales but people with PVP knowledge
It's so over 
My Scarlet Blanc team no longer can keep up :hu tao why:
My Moran Biscuit Summer Anis team is my worst weakness
No one cares if my Noah Cindy 2RL with double buffs wins
CP pad 3rd team 
SGs just generally bad in SPA
Summer Anis future is doomed
Wth
he's dumb yet!
Moran x/10/10 has failed me 
Now I have to
I have to Nero gaming 
There's no skill reset announcement
So I have to go full in
If it doesn't work I'm done for
Noah Cindy this 

Does taunt work on Cindy burst ? Or everyone get hit by Cindy burst even with taunt ?
Nice
Its aoe iirc
So everyone
Wow first time, my app forced closed during pvp fight 
It was cause of nikke update lol
Rip my attempt
Attempt should still go through because its server-side. Likely u lost that match instead
Rlly ? Need to check I'm still updating
I win yes
π₯ 

You now have another strong brick amongst you.
Look like 1 RL Scarlet from rail could win.
I farmed Individual today.
Exactly one rock and zero tortoise. 
I got 2 rocks, drained 3, leaves
You should try to not buff Cindy she can wipe without buffers, make her bait for enemy Noah for your other 2 teams to work better, tho not sure if you can win if they are whales
I could do phase 6 Kraken now but it depends on how hot my phone is at the time.
Maybe as well farm gear until lv361.
I think I realized why my bracket is PEACEFUL
it was after I wasted about 1000gems in 1 SEASON lol no one wanna try getting 1st place after that
you gotta spend gems to earn gems
Also my bracket was really intense
we Change teams EVERYTIME WE LOSE
it was kinda like love triangle, except every1 below you wants a piece of that triangle
idek which of these teams I shouldn't try to beat...
Think my team 2 and 3 can win?
Can anyone suggest the best team I can use in the special arena? Need 3 teams for defense and 2-3 strong teams for attack. I can invest, sync, or get treasured item for any character if needed. Thank you in advance. π
No guarantee of best, but this is what I'm working towards. Knock yourself out.
Well, try @mighty haven, always ready to gem but people gem him too anyway. 
Hey, @swift mango, think I have a chance here?
Enemy teams are like, 2.5RL, 7RL, 4RL.
You got almost no chance against team 1 so might as well use units there to boost your team 2-3

Kinda already did. Who's left there that's worth putting elsewhere?
Cindy burst instead of Ass for example.
What teams could I make to beat this guyβs teams? Iβm stuck π¦
And use some that's actually useful in team 3 instead of Mordenia
I guess if I think about, yeah, Cindy should do more damage..
But I need her for CP padding
Use other strong CP in team 1 to CP padding... Even ASS is better for CP padding
That team is already at 13% deficit, I can't afford to go much lower.
Team 1 is a lose. You can't win it. 
Any unit in team 1 is better than Modernia
No but like, Modernia is the highest CP unit that's not currently in team 2.
I guess I can replace with Alice and not yet go into deficit, or with SAnis if I use Cinderella there (even though that puts me at an even bigger deficit).
Also, make sure your Scarlet is linked.
Yes, SBS is not as high. π
Is your Laplace treasure? Anyway, ASS is better than Modernia sure.
Yup.
And, I'm afraid I can't replace SAnis with Cinderella unless I want to go from 20% deficit to 22%...
Is Naga or DKW higher CP than Rapipi, crown or Noah?
Yeah, Noah and Biscuit are pretty weak.
What about the other 2?
No
Crown+Naga+Biscuit+Rapipi+Cindy to hit team 2 then. 
Then move ASS to team 3 and throw Modernia out

No invuln. π°
Biscuit is the invul
I guess I gotta kill them during Cindy burst anyways.
Check CP first
There is also a the problem with SBS hitting lowest DEF.
So need to be not too low
I can't not be at deficit, but it's fine. My SAnis team has been able to just about win at 20% deficit. This one has more buffs and damage and is at... 17% deficit.
Is your Laplace treasure?
Yes, still is
Scarlet+Blanc+ASS+LapT+Jackal.
Check CP. If not deficit then use it. 
Why is my SBS not fine there?
LapT make your team faster
It's fast enough to hit before Noah.
So did it win?
I didn't go yet.
Bad news about team 2. It's slower than theirs now.
Your didn't even go
I mean, I can see it from the calculator.
Also, just get one level up.
And you will be out of deficit.
1000 core dust short. π
Open your boxes.
Yeah, it's 1000 short after opening all the boxes.
π³
did you buy out the core dust from the co-op store?
trade battle data for core dust?
It's fiiiine. I'll get it literally tomorrow.
I'm putting Noah back on team 2. 
Ah well, if I lose I lose.
Thanks for the help. 
Replace Rapipi with DKW.
What not enough?
Not enough speed to be faster than them with DKW either.
I have like 0 burst gen units if I take Noah out, it's not gonna work. =(
Crown's buff that important?
Both team are 7 RL with DKW. Same speed. Better with CS on Biscuit.
With Rapipi your team are 7.5 RL not that much difference.
Do whichever suit your taste.
I didn't actually accurately measure their team 2 speed. I just noted it was slow.
But I messed up, teehee.
Oh well, I'll win tomorrow.
Might as well go with Noah for Regen... But check the CP.
Always at a deficit.
fwiw, I won fight 2, wasn't too close.
I guess I mismeasured team speeds in fight 3, and Noah did indeed block Scarlet, so I lost.
I told you to bring LapT.
Do you have record?
So did you record it?
Y'know, after how long we discussed this for, I did, for the first time ever.
3 GB file. 
My replays are like 30mb.
Depends on recording quality. 
Use compressor like videopanda to compress it to 5mb and post it here.

I'm on wifi now I surely could but it would be bad for someone like @keen vapor to click on it I guess...
It's not the 3GB file. Discord wouldn't accept that.
This server has a 100MB upload limit.
Just replace SBS with LapT. 

Too late now
Their team has basically zero feed.
I said it but you don't listen
I thought it was fast enough. π
I will now go to the store to scavenge for food before I pass out from hunger.
It has been enlightening, thank you. 
You did hit them before Noah but got caught by Rapunzel burst and couldn't kill anyone. 
What does this mean?
Investment issue. A bit of speed issue. But mainly investment.
Do you have Liter or Red hood invested?
How invested is your Scarlet and Blanc?
Bro chill, I'm out of tries.
What's Treasure Drake's optimal skills investment?
I have no RH.
Liter exists and is kind of invested, but by the sin of being Liter is just low CP.
Even DKW or Crown is better than Modernia for dmg. 
Well, try to up your team 3 speed or dmg
I'm done with it.
Anyway, Drunk Scarlet finally powercrept. 
Maybe Original Sakura, Rapipi with Ele and Alice will finally have some use in attack.
Bigger Nuke, better self buff. No counter but Normal attacks during burst could trigger small nukes.
Kinda regret MLB her original version with gold tick now.... Could MLB this version instead.
In a sense, she is more like SBS power creep. Since she is Wind. 
Ofc arena only

Could also try ScarFlexCPBlancFlexCPJack on team 2 (boost it's CP). And Noah+Biscuit+ASS+Crown on team 3.
team 2 looks like mega feed
Their team 2 has lots of feeds and no sustain so you just need to burst with any B3 + Blanc and you would win.
Yeah.
they got the kit out for rei before new asuka? or are both out?
Both out. I'm having a headache and Asuka skill doesn't help... Could be usable in Arena to normal attack shotting at unprotected p1 but that's it.
will have to see how viable they are for pve as well ofc
guess wind weak they could be strong here, not sure if SBS/alice etc strong on kraken will need a whale or two to test π
she is Drunk Scarlet powercreep
I can finally run triple screenwipe in pvp

Wind nuke too so it will kill iron units 
Good bye tanky Rapunzel players

Gotta be hard for Merry.
Without much analysis, Asuka is Wind xLud. Her Anti field is basically what Xlud s1 does but only during her burst 3 and hit 2 (maybe create a small AoE? Who knows).
The rest of her skills are just for her personal dmg.
SBS+Asuka+Mana gonna deal so much dmg during burst... But no burst gen though...
Can't use any SR or RL in Mana team
Could use Grave to buff burst gen.
ah I didn't look at her kit too much I still haven't built mine
And defending on how much burst gen the extra attack from Asuka every 50 shots.
guess could be interesting with all the options and helm instead of mana here maybe?
If Asuka extra shot at 50 hits give like 10% burst gauge her team would be fine in pvE.
someone with pretty well built versions of all could certainly test some combos out

boda sacc getting better 
i wait for actual testers
Im hoping she's good
She can fill the void drunklet let in my pvp heart
drunk scarlet does have the benefit of auto counter attacking though right?
Yes but the power of an instantenous screenwipe with no delay is more important
Other screenwipers like ein and cindy have weird delays before dmg goes in
also because she's wind there's more likely to be units on the enemy team that's ele weak so she can one shot them more reliably
But this is all just speculation for now
multi MG team sounds fun though
Is s1, unconditional 590% atk at 18 shots? 
not so much for pvp π
yea Im gonna snipe your ass
Are we sure Rei doesn't?
I literally said its all speculation u dumdum
Rei has some potential if her self buffs apply to her AoE burst
If it does, she's effective a 1 buffer AoE nuke, which is really nice
If not, she's a Noir alternative I guess with the team atk buff
wow keripo! first time i see him talk here
im the goat ikik
I seen'd him here before
we waiting you showcase rei

Finally! THelm you're next
man it never ends 
Should be, just like her Fire version.
I haven't seen anyone whose unconditional self buff on B3 not applied to their B3 nuke.
Only happened under the A.T field status applied by Wind Asuka.
Yeah, seemed like it 
AR do 20 shot per RL at 60 fps? 18 shots should be per second then.
Game is too fps heavy...

21 shots at 2RL according to calc
That is 30fps arena speed.
yeah arena 
60 fps is double the bullet rate.
That's why phone user often deal much less dmg, especially when their device overheated.
When skills trigger are gated by bullets, the one play at 60fps would trigger 6 times more than someone playing at 10fps I guess. 
Man, I thought this was OP SR B1 until I saw that 40s burst 1.... Oh well, she is a free Xlud so can't ask for much.
Yes. It helps make 3rl team 2.5rl speed.
Clip rocket launcher and HelmT
LaplaceT and XMaiden.
Biscuit, Rapu.
Redhood
She has some cs on s1 too and snipers have instant shot so itβll be less then 17
idk. You can just go 17 
I still donβt know breakpoints for snipers relative to rl times, would be helpful now we have helmt
just a faster last hit (?
Iβve seen high cs helm block 2rl Cindy
Every single of her skills applied after bursting. So before you burst she is pretty much vanilla AR. 
Would like to know how well the attack range increase affects her s2
What attack range increase?
I meant on the s1 
That's annihilation stage affect of Asuka s1.
Nothing to do with Rei.A
Attack stage is not Annihilation stage.
She have very strong dmg alone. 
With Asuka even better.





