pvp-arena

[limber patrol]

but I want to burst with Red Hood B1 only...

this team simply don't work?

it's for Rookie Arena

[hazy shore]

put redhood before cindy and maiden

[limber patrol]

B3 Cinderella

B2 Noah

[hazy shore]

If you have a biscuit that would be much better to replace cinderella

[limber patrol]

B1 RH

[hazy shore]

oh

[hazy shore]

yeah it works

[limber patrol]

how big is Cinderella feed on p2?

[hazy shore]

if enemy has a lot of rl thats even more

[umbral belfry]

#pvp-arena message

big oof

[limber patrol]

if the enemy is like 3RL, will they burst before me?

[hazy shore]

yeah

[swift mango]

Sorry that I didn't use Noise in the end...

[hazy shore]

I see it, thank you for cooking

[coral orbit]

@tropic summit
Hey, thanks for before 👋

i have recently gotten Rapunzel/Mana, and have been testing new teams
gotta learn myself
would love to hear your feedback

whatcha think about the 2 teams below??

[swift mango]

Time to upgrade you crownless campaign team to maid duo... They should be only worse than crown a little....

Especially with SBS

Skipping Maid duo was like the easiest decision to me. Since the little accident last month I deleted more than half of my T9M. Not gonna farm 2 set from crash.

[umbral belfry]

you did what

[quick lake]

[oak gale]

brother ur 10 days late 💀

[whole pawn]

@tropic summit @fathom rock 2.4 gems acquired

[grand plaza]

Me with 1.6k gems

[quick lake]

[crystal flicker]

I re read my message, you can slot Helm in T2 to replace Noir / Anis(SR) or T3 to replace MPriv

[swift mango]

How to counter HelmT Regen?

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit

[whole pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-handshake-arnold-schwarzenegger-carl-weathers-gif-17765053

[glad meteor]

Xanne

Or biscuit defender

Can’t lifesteal if you deal no damage

[tropic summit]

the results of your hard work

[tropic summit]

both are ok teams:

T1: not a fan of stacking noise with rapu without a noah, rather just use rapu in another team, just don't put noise on 3RL as the only B1 in p1 in that case though. For the rest it's a good team, buffed cindy nuke on 3RL is decent
T2: good, just that SBS can get hard countered by invulnerable taunters, weaker compared to a Scarlet or an Emilia. Replace viper with a non feeding battery when you can (any non SG clip burst gen)

[shell hazel]

I'm going to OL my Noise once more to beef her up some as I noticed on my rookie matches she could die before I could burst 😄

although helm etc isn't ready fully yet, she's p1 slot so best to have her a bit tankier than most

[umbral crown]

Rosanna
Shw will be gone as soon as she burst

[modest summit]

Could any well-versed pvp guru guide me in making atk and def teams for SP arena please? 🙏🏻

[tropic summit]

noah centi cind laplace(non treasured) liter
sbs blanc alice xmaiden jackal
naga rrh pmaid anis noir

cubes (when available)

quantum on anis, jackal, centi
vigor on blanc
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

notes: wishlist/build asap: biscuit, rapunzel, scarlet, noise, rumani

get teams reviewed once these are found/built

[modest summit]

Thank you @tropic summit ! I really appreciate it! I do have Noise, does that change anything?

[tropic summit]

she's way too unbuilt, would tank your CP, she'd fit in T1 instead of liter once built

[modest summit]

Noted, thank you so much!

[vapid lake]

last season before reshuffle

[tropic summit]

last season before CA is released

[lone sequoia]

+2

[gaunt viper]

How'd you end up beating it?

[lone sequoia]

if they say* that CA is in march, probably at the end or another delay

[tropic summit]

this time it might really happen, who knows

either that or the intern accidentaly presses the push to production button

[molten yarrow]

New player on day 30 here, would someone be so kind as to help me build 2 teams for SP arena?
One is my PvE Team: Liter/Crown/Rapapi/Naga/RH

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[covert lintel]

CA is a gathering of challenger rank in spec arena right?
how will diamond rank and below do in champion arena?
betting who is 1st rank?

[tropic summit]

nero poli maiden noir noise
bay privaty neon anis laplace

wishlist: noah, biscuit, rapu, jackal, centi, rumani, scarlet, cindy, sbs

[molten yarrow]

Amazing, need to get back to challenger 5 I hope this will help me, Thank you ❤️

[tropic summit]

you're actually pretty screwed, you're missing most PvP core units...

better hope you find some batteries

your best bet is probably just 4RL cp padded teams until then, but these will do if you're not facing only CP padded lineups

[molten yarrow]

will change wishlist as soon as I break 160 barrier, only need one body from the shop and I am good

[tropic summit]

fingers crossed

[molten yarrow]

thanks again, appreciate it!!

[tropic summit]

no problemo, get your teams reviewed if you find some of the above

[lapis field]

Hello! Can anyone help me build a 3 new lineup for sp arena?

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[umbral belfry]

the same dude that asked fro my discord

knew i was right about not giving it

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind xmaiden noise
noah biscuit rrh rh anis
pmaid blanc alice rumani jackal

cubes (if available)

quantum on rumani, jackal, centi, anis
vigor on biscuit, blanc, noise
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

wishlist/build asap: aim for HelmT, build SBS as non feeding B3 for T2 (likely replace RRH), consider laplace treasure after helm

[tropic summit]

the rizz game on the lad

[umbral belfry]

[lapis field]

Right now, I'm one copy away for laplace since her doll is at 15 and maintenance materials is over 160!

Thank you kind sir!! Also, wdym any other nikke run hoghest lvl cube?

[tropic summit]

bastion/resil, just for stats

[lapis field]

I see I see. Thank you again!!

[valid fern]

he'll find you soon enough

[lapis field]

I forgot to ask awhile ago. If I acquired both treasures of laplace and helm, also, fully built SBS, they'll possibly replace the lineup list given?

[valid fern]

How reliable is 2RL nuke vs a 2.5RL Noah?

[tropic summit]

uh guess you could go for this

(rumani and anis are interchangable, although anis being lower max HP due to SR unit can mess with indom, so beware of balancing teams)

pmaid should be replaced with scarlet ideally at some point, so don't go too ham on her investiment

[tropic summit]

in fact that person might be already in this chat, reading all of hime's messages

it could be you, it could be hime, it could be me?!

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-gif-9320359

[valid fern]

i managed to cook two 2RL teams and one 2.5RL for spa. Problem is I need nine quantum cubes.

[tropic summit]

oh forgot to reply btw, depends on who you nuking with, scarlet/pmaid (instant nukes) would bypass, cindy would only get part of her nuke through

as 0,5RL difference is generally you on B3 while opponent hits B1

[swift mango]

It's depending on if that 2.5rl is actually 2.5rl. Sometime they could get to near 2.2 RL and block 2rl.

There is also Cindy, who maybe not finish all her nuke before Noah activate.

But generally, you could beat it.

Noise and Moran could make their team tanky enough to tank a 2rl wipe though. Still, Scarlet can Crit.

[brazen ledge]

is there a way to know which teams my opponent beats ?

in def

bc i keep losing to the same guy and he keeps losing to me

[strange linden]

damn, the top 5 of my bracket have their Helm now 💀

[tropic summit]

you can probably guess it on your 2 worst teams, post your current ones

[brazen ledge]

1sec

don't ask why maiden i don't remember

still no thelm

@tropic summit

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/get-ready-ready-to-fight-wwe-lets-get-ready-to-rumble-gif-13911866

[shell hazel]

helm skill 1 at 8 today

[umbral belfry]

[vapid lake]

[eager mountain]

is there a chart of burst activation delay?

[brazen ledge]

not bronze anymore !

[eager mountain]

im still a bronze bozo in some random's heart, its a hierarchy society

[brazen ledge]

same

(im rly a bozo though)

idk what that means

and pls use words instead of reactions

[tropic summit]

hmm if i had to guess your opponent is focusing t2 and t3

[vapid lake]

lv 301 today

[tropic summit]

you're probably dealing with this:

-T2 has SBS as B3 which makes her vulnerabile to p1 defender + biscuit
-T3 is weak to 4RL noah + s.anis

[vapid lake]

Pvp cp somehow jump so little

[tropic summit]

dealing with noah is difficult, but fixing your SBS team might be doable

[eager mountain]

3.3%ish cp gain huh

[tropic summit]

perhaps turn your T2 into indom emi instead of indom SBS

can throw a rapunzel if they're running fast burst/rosanna

[raven plover]

40k

[vapid lake]

But it 15 units right? I thought 15 units gaining a spike would be higher number

[tropic summit]

do you've s.anis built and on burst lvl 9? (or higher)

[brazen ledge]

synchro 405 that'd be a shame if not

[eager mountain]

i would guess the spikes are the same, % wise

[raven plover]

well you see your main team gets like 13k, so 13k x 3

[vapid lake]

7 day until new chapter

hope box hoard was worth it

[raven plover]

cant wait to have no credit boxes

[vapid lake]

im concerned how much resources i will lose from lvling 30 times in a row

because now its lv 301 costs

[eager mountain]

its minimal worth imo consider the cd lost when u couldve pushed campaign further without hoarding at all

[vapid lake]

I dont think i lost much because i would've reached lv 321 i think a week ago

Not lv 321 = stuck at nihilister cant progress

[eager mountain]

tho if ur already have max cd income, then hoard, i shouldve hoard for longer cuz of that

[vapid lake]

[tropic summit]

i'd try this:

[vapid lake]

I lose about 21 days of higher outpost level but i've been hoarding way longer

[eager mountain]

since getting 521 and beating behemoth didnt change income, i didnt need to get 521 but simply hoard

[vapid lake]

I should come out with higher gain

[tropic summit]

don't have a house, don't have credits, life is harsh

[eager mountain]

tho another reason i 521'd anyway is to see if that spike would make that mf having trouble attacking me

the result is... well... made it more rng for him ig

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/ogli-gif-17468683305861986751

[keen vapor]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956169657939820625/1311497074927468606/screen-20240509-095442.mp4?ex=675792d5&is=67564155&hm=525f8440502faac8c4849a575b3fcdb72940037be0b56ac85824f8b3483f71ff&

[swift mango]

Just realized Drake treasure s1 give max ammo. It means she can't be used with ASS anymore.

[gaunt viper]

do you remember what sync lvl and CP you had?

[keen vapor]

25..... Lower than 260

Maybe even lower than 240

CP I don't have a clue

[swift mango]

Now Idk if I should get Drake treasure.

[keen vapor]

RH was the most invested one with 3 attack, 2-3 ele

[keen vapor]

I'll get Miranda treasure

[swift mango]

100% Crit rate Emi nuke is a serious consideration

[keen vapor]

Correct

[swift mango]

But would you?

[keen vapor]

I need to get Snow White soon

Surely next Pilgrim mold

[swift mango]

Now, back to the topic, would you get Miranda treasure?

[tropic summit]

oh @keen vapor

[keen vapor]

affects that decision

[tropic summit]

this is Helm

soon TM

[keen vapor]

™

[tropic summit]

i'm just too scared of getting screwed by RNG before going to bed so i'll do it tomorrow

[vapid lake]

🤝 except i'm phase 14

[swift mango]

My drake is sr5 now. And 30/30 affection. And 4OL.

My Miranda is no doll. 19/30 affection (could be filled in one click if I wanted). And 0OL.

[tropic summit]

oh good lord no, don't let it happen

[naive crown]

Hello, can anyone please help me build teams for competitive pvp?

[tropic summit]

would add to the PTSD's

[vapid lake]

Better start praying to whatever god u believe in 🙏

[eager mountain]

waifu god

[tropic summit]

i'll pray to all of them just in case

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[tropic summit]

laplace treasured btw?

[raven plover]

moran c1

[swift mango]

Kinda serious about Miranda Treasure guys. Anyone getting it?

[naive crown]

nah, no treasures

[swift mango]

[naive crown]

only dolls

[eager mountain]

drake is prob better but I don’t think neither matters for u, it’s mostly pve

unless u using drake in ca

[keen vapor]

I'm out of mats at the moment

And I need to be sure to be able to max out Chime

So I have to hoard for now

But I'll farm Miranda treasure mats

[swift mango]

Emilia with 100% Crit and +90% Crit dmg is very huge...

[raven plover]

c7 kisama?

[swift mango]

No more missing one shot

[keen vapor]

I mean, 6k from Pilgrim will hurt, so MLB only

[tropic summit]

when is chime possibly coming? do you know something that I don't

[keen vapor]

I just hope that they follow up events like they have been doing so

First it was RH/Crown
↓ ↓
Now is Cindy/???
↓
||@tropic summit ||

We don't talk about Doro

Surely I don't get robbed by Indivillia

[eager mountain]

sounds too niche to me

But could be valuable

[vapid lake]

Half-anni release support pilgrim so maybe 2.5 is chime and that's it

[swift mango]

With that much DMG she should be able to once shit Cindy!!

[vapid lake]

But now overspec exists so they can bamboozle and release someone else

[eager mountain]

Chances are we gonna be forced use sg battery and tdrake would be a premium choice outside of sanis team

[eager mountain]

I don’t think double buffed emi nuke did it for me nor this will…

[tropic summit]

noise centi cind sbs pepper
scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
noah biscuit rapu s.anis pepper

cubes

quantum on jackal, centi
vigor on blanc, biscuit, rapu, noise
resil on s.anis, s.anis must be lvl 9 burst or higher, no ammo OLs
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube available

wishlist/build asap: rumani, helmT, consider la+ treasured

[naive crown]

OH THANKS!

[keen vapor]

[naive crown]

thank you so much 😭

[naive crown]

is that for attack or defense?

[eager mountain]

Oh it’s fb buff

[keen vapor]

Always defense

[tropic summit]

alright, that's interesting

[tropic summit]

can be used for offense aswell, although you need to know what you doing

as a general rule:

#pvp-arena message

[naive crown]

oki doki!

[swift mango]

Normal Crit is x1.5. with Miranda it's x2.4. This alone is more than a non crit double buffed.

Then add in x1.4 from Blanc.

X 1.4 from Miranda.

This is like 2 times stronger than double buff with RH.

[tropic summit]

Blood is cooking an atomic bomb there

[keen vapor]

Hydrogen bomb

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[tropic summit]

although on higher sync lvl we could actually use that for the tanky SR15 support/defenders 🤔

can say bye bye to rapu on p4

[keen vapor]

I need more purple dolls

[eager mountain]

huh maybe it hits this hard, since pve don’t have too many modifiers like core hit sharing multiplier with crit

[umbral crown]

But does echo has SR15 Support/Defender?

[keen vapor]

I did SR10 support

2 SR 15 defender

[tropic summit]

here is a purple doll

[naive crown]

I noticed you put pepper twice, is there anything better I can swap?

[tropic summit]

he's hoarding anything, surely he must've some hidden

[keen vapor]

UN FUNKO POP

[umbral crown]

Kinda sus

[eager mountain]

any SW simp getting the tMiranda ready for testing with emi nuke

[tropic summit]

teams on the left are those you can run right now, teams on the right those you can run with helmT, rumani and laplace+

pepper is needed because you lack an alternative non feeding battery on clip SG burst gen (xmaiden, emilia are a few examples)

[umbral crown]

Hnnnn

[eager mountain]

Tho at the end still sounds like a offense niche to me

[naive crown]

wb regular anis?

is she not used anymore?

[tropic summit]

she works too, just tanks CP harder than SRR do

[keen vapor]

I have to cuz she got the charge speed :deadge:

[tropic summit]

anis on 17% CS

@swift mango so with mirandaT a scarlet could non crit kill anything on even 500 synch+ ? 🤔 (let's assume maxed doll maxed OL maxed skill moran)

[swift mango]

Rapu p4 is no problem for Emi tbh even right now...

I'm thinking

Emi+Blanc+Miranda+Crown+Jackal

60% ATK of Crown.
20%Dmg from crown.
1.4x atK from Miranda
1.4x dmg taken from Blanc
2.4x dmg from Miranda guaranteed crit.

This should be able to nuke Defenders from full HP at high synch.

[naive crown]

I noticed you guys talk alot about laplace

what's her use?

[tropic summit]

-good off-burst splash dmg (iron, hits hard on elec code nikke, which are the most in number in pvp meta)
-decent burst gen (clip SG level, non feeder due to RL)
-hero

[keen vapor]

With Adjutant

[keen vapor]

Almost* clip SG level

[naive crown]

how do you guys recommend going about getting treasure to max'd for laplace?

starting from blue doll

[tropic summit]

start with R doll

use only blue up to SR5

[brazen ledge]

First for PvP, did you do helm’s treasure ?

[tropic summit]

after SR5 opinions may differ

[naive crown]

not yet

[brazen ledge]

So do that first

[naive crown]

helm better than laplace?

[eager mountain]

if they add like a 10 sec timer for auto def win to encourage stall then yeah this nuke would be essentially good for atk
Nvm indom is a thing thus can’t be this timer

[tropic summit]

in terms of priority yes, helm can kick a team into 2RL quite easily, laplace is a bit less as useful

[naive crown]

this is the regular helm we're talkinga bout right?

[tropic summit]

nope, only treasured helm

regular helm is kinda trash

[swift mango]

I don't think Miranda 1 crit strike buff Scarlet Nuke.

Maybe her first normal attack after full burst or if you are lucky a counter.

But she could make Scarlet Nuke crit much harder I guess.

[tropic summit]

specifically, helm treasured with s1 on lvl 10 and reached stage 2

[naive crown]

oh sorry, lemme be more specific.
This is the non-alter version of helm right?

the base version, not the summer was the one that recently got the treasure?

[tropic summit]

ye correct

regular version, not the acquamarine

[keen vapor]

Uwoh

[eager mountain]

that’s why he said non crit scar, but at that point why bother miranda with scar

[tropic summit]

oh i see, it needs timing afterall

[naive crown]

whats the strat once you get SR5?

[swift mango]

Yeah

[tropic summit]

some push it to SR6 or SR7 before using purple/gold, it increases the % a bit

some may just go straight into purple/gold at SR5

correct me if im mistaken @keen vapor on that ^

[swift mango]

Scarlet only has like 55% crit rate even if you build crit rate on her. Need soothing like double Mast buff to guarantee a crit.

[keen vapor]

I push to SR6/11 to use gold, yes

[keen vapor]

You factored base crit right?

[tropic summit]

well, it was nice talkin' it's now 1:30AM, better go to le bed, cya lads

[keen vapor]

Goodnight

[eager mountain]

He did

[keen vapor]

Good

[swift mango]

G9

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Base crit

How much is it? 15%? 20%?

[keen vapor]

what

[eager mountain]

15

[swift mango]

[eager mountain]

and tMiranda’s 85 one bullet guarante 100 without any other crit rate buff
Tho SW herself has crit rate buff lol I think

[keen vapor]

SW's cool
~~But where big self attack buff ~~

[swift mango]

Then I would have nothing to justify Crit rate on my Emi with Miranda.

[eager mountain]

Treasure SW 2030

[keen vapor]

at least Isabel treasure will come sooner

[glad meteor]

Pre burst hits

[eager mountain]

as much as I would like to think of it this way, chances are pioneers getting treasure before both Isabel and harren getting it

[glad meteor]

Imagine pilgrim treasure

[shell hazel]

marciana treasure next

[keen vapor]

That's the reason I must hoard silver mileage

[eager mountain]

all my old pilgrims are mlb already

[keen vapor]

I only get 2 lb

[swift mango]

Or I could keep Miranda at s2lv8 to save mats.

[eager mountain]

getting that would be a nightmare for non starter account cuz they need mlb not lb2 + bad pull rate
And now pilgrim wishlist is a thing they ain’t coping for pilgrim treasure and wishlist them instead of Cindy rrh etc

that’s the main reason why I don’t think they gonna be treasured anytime soon

[keen vapor]

Yeah, not soon

[quick pivot]

Just got Helm Treasure T2, any place for her in a team comp rearrangement, or do I need the damage as well her burst gen?

[swift mango]

We have Miranda this batch. Next should be Quiry.

[keen vapor]

Then where's Soline/Brid treasure where you hide it

[keen vapor]

Replace Naga, then switch positions with Anis ...... Uh, maybe Liter P1

[eager mountain]

hoarding pilgrim molds for rrh, feb still not a thing, might as well wait for 2.5 anni... nah f it i dont wanna wait longer

[naive crown]

How do you guys go about fighting noah teams?

[eager mountain]

maid banner doesnt end when next patch is out to next patch wont have them in wishlist neither, f it
elysion wishlist is UNPULLABLE without them

[keen vapor]

We use Emilia or Summer Anis, I sincerely apologize

[swift mango]

Nuke it with Emi

[naive crown]

don't have emi

[quick pivot]

Like so?

[eager mountain]

or just go 2rl nuke if they are 3rl noah somehow

[naive crown]

sucks she won't rerun either

[keen vapor]

Huh, Cinderella might get outlinked, cool

[eager mountain]

did u join after emi? if u cant have emi, neither should ur arena groups have, u dont lose in that case

[naive crown]

yeah during crown

[eager mountain]

then ya fair game

[swift mango]

If they are 3rl, nuke them with 2.5-2rl.

If they are 2rl, stall and nuke with 4rl Cindy.

[naive crown]

I don't see anyone use emi either

[eager mountain]

cuz grouping is based on acc creation

[naive crown]

oh I see, I didn't know that

good, that's one less character to worry about lol

So how would you guys counter something like this?

[keen vapor]

Rosanna

[eager mountain]

one single rosa

[naive crown]

???

wait she's used? Should I be investing into her?

[swift mango]

Mirror but replace Liter with Rumani or Anis SR

[naive crown]

also how does shecounter?

[keen vapor]

That's a good question

Maybe

For me it's a no

[keen vapor]

so true

[eager mountain]

rosa is still a premium atk b1 choice tho i also use her in def with crit rolls lol

not the highest priority to invest tho, takes a lot of burst book

[naive crown]

as a general rule of thumb, in terms of power.
How much deficit is not worth chasing?

[eager mountain]

she rips off jackel dmg linking buff, and then b1 nukes 2 attackers before b2 can do sh*t

[swift mango]

I'm still wondering if I want to build MirandaT, Idk if I need that much oneshotting power. And II don't think it would help for defense at all.

[keen vapor]

Over 30%

[keen vapor]

In PVP, over 15.4%

[eager mountain]

rosa can also be a... battery, if u run sacc

[keen vapor]

Then what, Drake won't do any good either

[swift mango]

Add in, 20% is beatable. 30% is where you should stop. 40% is impossible.

[swift mango]

Max out Scarlet doll?

[keen vapor]

I'm getting CPed

[eager mountain]

deficit level depends on what type of team u running

stall team is stronger when in deficit favor

[keen vapor]

SR 10 is enough, trust

[eager mountain]

how yall still have blue kits left if yall keep sr5ing

[keen vapor]

That's the neat part, I didn't had any for Helm release

[eager mountain]

should always hoard a bit before treasure waves yeah

[rich quail]

She’s very high invest
She’s not a priority and can be countered most times on def

But against certain comps she’s very effective… but that is changing because of dolls and temperance cubes changing her attack effectiveness

[eager mountain]

i been boarding a lot, waiting for ca before tossing more in arena

[keen vapor]

We got robbed without treasure Drake for mod raid

[swift mango]

I r10-15 with 1 gold.

[keen vapor]

I couldn't take it anymore and just used it up

Now I'm stuck with Bay SR5 on standby

[eager mountain]

bold of u to assume

[keen vapor]

[eager mountain]

i assumed as well just didnt decide before theres a date for sr and priortized helm cuz of broken battery

[swift mango]

My Rossana as lone b1, got countered to death by Scarlet s2

[eager mountain]

said the sacc abuser

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

My RNG is bad, hope my opponent RNG is bad when they ATK as well.

[eager mountain]

maybe thats a skill issue that can be fixed by more waifu worshipping

[swift mango]

Mordenia raid when?

[keen vapor]

January

[swift mango]

[eager mountain]

u didnt do wind mod raid?

[keen vapor]

Were you hibernating?

[swift mango]

I think I did

[eager mountain]

maxxed drake sg team is surprsingly not compelely unuseable in mat h raid tho, but who tf have drake maxxed

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-drake-meme-anita-max-wynn-anitamaxwynn-drake-sus-gif-5732123501067394224

[umbral crown]

To have SR10 you better go for SR15

Or just SR5

[eager mountain]

mentality bait

[keen vapor]

No oh

[umbral crown]

max doll and cubes issues

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

We had modernia like 1 month ago or so

My rosanna has never fallen against scar S2

Even against the whale

[swift mango]

Maybe she is linked with Jackal

[mild lion]

Is SBS a decent battery? Tryin to get some more speed on my Emilia team but I dont really have Rumani or Bay built.

[eager mountain]

No

[umbral crown]

Of course she is

[eager mountain]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11KWYeyvef91A-vfFuqglJJ8-OhR90TcKFVpJ6Ny_5h4/edit?usp=sharing

[mild lion]

Would be better to just run an unbuilt Rumani then?

[umbral crown]

The one who is not linked is scarlet despite being 3rd on cp

[eager mountain]

unbuilt ramani is just cp loss nothing else

[keen vapor]

Uh Huh

Bay isn't a battery

[eager mountain]

i think i have just barely enough ol to hit stage9 mc, wish me luck
f i used all attempts

[swift mango]

That's why she survived.

[umbral crown]

Even in a team where she is not link, she does

[umbral crown]

[eager mountain]

mock run ig

i desprately hate how off sync resets aim upon switching nikke

[mild lion]

Does this make sense for attack? I am kinda tryin to let my Cindy team slouch to keep two teams really strong.

[eager mountain]

p1 cindy again

[umbral crown]

Im just sad i missed the chance to check my sp teams on SR lock level

[mild lion]

Does it matter if Rapunzel just rezzes her anyway?

[umbral crown]

I just checked one of my rookies there and was 667k cp

[eager mountain]

no, cindy decoy target skips, their team will attack rh first, while rl can still hit decoy and cindy for extra burst gen

[swift mango]

Rapu will ded without able to rezz anyone.

[eager mountain]

so 1.75x burst gen for each rl for ur opponent

[mild lion]

Can I just flip flop Rapunzel and Cindy and then bank on the stall from rapunzel's stun if she gets low?

[eager mountain]

rapun stun is when u know what ur doing, basically depending on enemy rl dps

but as usual, atk is def dependent

[mild lion]

I only fight one person in my arena so I basically always know what i am up against

[eager mountain]

thats still not the reason to run rh sanis there if u want rapun atk stun + cindy nuke

that team has 0 burst gen, she will def die

[mild lion]

How do folks normally run Cindy then? I can prolly do it assuming it doesnt mess up my two main teams too much

I suppose I could also pick a different main B3 all together as well

[eager mountain]

2rl cindy is pretty good, noise + thelm + cindy + 2 batteries for example

[swift mango]

Just swap Rapu and Cindy position for starter. At least you team improved that way.

[eager mountain]

your t1 also doesnt have meanful streak, 0 buffed scar wont nuke anyway so if u wanna stall with noah noise, sanis or emi or even cindy would all be a better choice

[mild lion]

Only buff for Scarlet besides Blanc is xAnne right? I was using xAnne before but there wasnt enough burst gen on the Scar team with Noise xAnne Centi Jackal

[eager mountain]

any, usually rh blanc xanne, as long as scar can live

[mild lion]

Id gladly run a buff Scarlet nuke again if I can find a way to get it fast enough. Issue is Blanc works so well for zombie Emilia that I cant use her on the scarlet nuke anymore.

[eager mountain]

xanne 1 attacker scar setup can rez scar if rosa sniped her, tho scar will still lose her s1 buff

[mild lion]

Well since RH is coming off T1 I can try her with xAnne again on Scar's team. And then I can run the taunters you mentioned on Cindy's team.

[eager mountain]

ur zombie emilia team is easily beatable with 5rl with elec elem ol but this is atk so its fine

usual streak to run 3rl emi team rn is to have a backup b3, but that b3 ideally shouldnt be just there for b3ing

so rh could be a choice that fills the b1 spot as well, while her b3 is very counterable

[mild lion]

It used to be RH as my backup b3 on zombie Emi but my opponent started using a new Noah team that was skipping over Emilia for dmg and causing the zombie buff to go to RH at bad times.

[eager mountain]

or running 2rl sr15 emi and cope, tho that would burn some batteries, and lose to 2.5+rl indom anyway
or emi + tLapalace to pressure their p2

u dont have helm treasured yet?

[mild lion]

I will have T-Helm soon so I am happy to team build based off the assumption she is already.

Does this look better then for ATK? Or is there still obvious issues/improves?

[eager mountain]

its indeed better now

[mild lion]

Appreciate the help and fixes. Always end up learning some new elements of the arena when I come asking. Next time that guy knocks me out of position I will have to see how it does.

His T-Helm is what actually screwed up the setup I had going the last few months that was keeping him down. The comp I posted worked today but it was janky af so I figured it had issues and I should come ask

[eager mountain]

its not the best setup but im usually not cooking full teams here
just point out stuff and at least u can learn a bit... or blood can cook, but if u want that u should post his def

[swift mango]

You mean you enemy CP right?

321 can't have 667k

[upper grove]

has anyone done burst gen calcs with helm S1 at lvl 7? I only see max lvl or lvl 4

just out of mats

[swift mango]

Just use the lv10 and minus 2% per RL.

[umbral crown]

nope, just checking the cp of my teams with lock sync from SR, the lv400

[umbral crown]

but could be if whale

but we just f2p friendy here

its to have an idea of how my teams would be at lv400

[upper grove]

used OL for chest/helm on Noah, boots and gloves less worth right? I could OL another chest/helm instead on batteries, Noise and Jackal. I guess Jackal > Noise > batteries?

[swift mango]

Did you do SR?

[umbral crown]

last moment i did

mee score

[swift mango]

I only had 3 teams for this SR. But still got 10%

Good enough

[keen vapor]

~~I did 4 teams ~~

[umbral crown]

i got 17% or so

did like 1.2b

[swift mango]

Gem wise you lose nothing much. So it's fine.

[umbral crown]

yeah, i only care SR for the doll kits

any gem from there is a plus

that helped to me get helm tresha

[swift mango]

Probably still 3.1-10% range.

[keen vapor]

Yes

[glad meteor]

Max core emi

[umbral crown]

i care more for her gacha skin

[floral kiln]

this team been farming me for months hilarious actually

[umbral crown]

if invested...

Noah-Moran-Biscuit-S.Anis-Rapunzel

[keen vapor]

[floral kiln]

imma try that real quick

[keen vapor]

One buff Emilia could never

[floral kiln]

IT WORKED HOLY MOLY IMMA FARM THIS DUDE FOR THE MONTHS HE'S BEEN HUNTING ME

[umbral crown]

its all about sending a message

[floral kiln]

you are so right about that

this dude been knocking me from top 5 by just targeting me

[graceful grotto]

Thelm 8 -> 10, how big is the difference in burst gen?

[floral kiln]

ok now to be a nonce and nuke my post so he cant find out lol

this is my maliciousness

[umbral crown]

now you can send a message: no more knocking me down

[floral kiln]

I will be sending him that message daily im dumping my fights on him

[umbral belfry]

revenge

[floral kiln]

Its a gift of love from me to him happy valentines day 🙂

[eager mountain]

now i need to run it tomorrow

[raven plover]

that sounds ga-

[slim sparrow]

Is blanc bugged atm? Im landing ult with her but nobody got indominabilty 🤔

[eager mountain]

whale? my cindy is lb1

[graceful grotto]

maybe she die too early

[slim sparrow]

No no

[graceful grotto]

[slim sparrow]

My burst is landing before she die

[raven plover]

it has slight delay, maybe the target dies in the process

[graceful grotto]

[slim sparrow]

Hummm OK ok

[raven plover]

#pvp-arena message

it happened

[eager mountain]

yeah i think there was a issue/feedback thread for that blanc issue

[vapid lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1162985219830329374.webp?size=128&animated=true

[slim sparrow]

Got that like 3 or 4 days in a row

I dont understand

[eager mountain]

if a rl hits right when ur blanc burst, might be it

[glad meteor]

There’s a short cast time for indom to take effect

[slim sparrow]

Yeah maybe unlucky timing multiple times lol

[keen vapor]

It happens to me all the time with Emilia SR5

[eager mountain]

delay ur rl a bit or get cs

[covert lintel]

opponent's auto atk is faster than ur blanc's burst

[eager mountain]

ur team is 2.5-2.8ish rl depending on ur emi cs, emi will land the last hit before burst , so changing emi cs might do

[slim sparrow]

Im 2.5

Emi 21 and jackal 17

[covert lintel]

i honestly won't atk a team like that, especially with a huge cp
waste time

[slim sparrow]

I beat him with that multiple times

But since 3 4 days no indom

[eager mountain]

jackal's cs doesnt matter here since the emi shot will trigger fb cuz they have a bit of feed

but lol 17 clip rl... wish i can get those soon enough

[raven plover]

can noah biskit cindy beat it

[slim sparrow]

And hes trolling honnestly, cindy p1

[eager mountain]

most dont know it, ive seen wayy to many p1p2 cindy

[covert lintel]

u just lucky S1 scar trigger more so blanc can cast faster

[eager mountain]

i doubt, scar would need mega rng to get his team to 2rl

3+5+1+2+35 shots

if his emi and jackel has quantum 7, he need 28 of those shots to trigger scar s2 for it to be 2rl

hardly possible

[umbral crown]

[eager mountain]

man lb1 cindy im broke asf

[worthy knoll]

Or maybe it was fine prior coz they were 540 and below, and it started failing at the moment they got to 541 sync tier

[slim sparrow]

Maybe 🙃

[eager mountain]

yeah that

[umbral crown]

mine lb0 till EoS

[eager mountain]

whole team lb0 still possible with curr nikke if u mald hard enough tho
unlike other AI, dont think its possible

that attempt took almost an hour cuz i cant hit offsync snipes

[umbral crown]

owo

[eager mountain]

tho if its for 2.4rl for indom to work then its 28 shots out of 60ish, thats quite possible, still quite unlikely

[vapid lake]

I think im going to treat my solo raid gems as ammo for sp arena learning now

Seems like a good limit to set

At least until new chapter out

So for this season i have 1400 gem to spend on sp arena testing/learning things

[umbral crown]

sounds good to me

[vapid lake]

I actually need to learn because i'm getting attacked by new people now

not the same guy every day

[umbral crown]

and shuffle has not happened yet

[vapid lake]

I'm facing the consequences of hoarding boxes

[umbral crown]

why pullung an echo

[vapid lake]

Fast forward 7 days

I destroy ch36 in one day and open all my boxes

[umbral crown]

the amount of people in this server bricking themselves is amazing

[fast harness]

getting cp gapped by whales is one thing

[umbral crown]

[vapid lake]

I did the math, hoarding is the correct move in my situation

[umbral crown]

[vapid lake]

I'll come out a head with 2 levels

[umbral crown]

hoarding is never the answer

2 levels...

[fast harness]

dam

[vapid lake]

Worth

[umbral crown]

unless 2 levels of boost meaning 42 then we might be talking but just 2 singles levels? nah

[vapid lake]

Adds up over a long period of time

[fast harness]

he gonna hit the 21 power spike before the other guys

[vapid lake]

I dont plan to quit nikke any time soon

[umbral crown]

2 levels.. thats like 8k cp

[keen vapor]

I have to clear mother whale in 7 days?

[umbral crown]

does not matter, bricked

[vapid lake]

What if that 8k cp is the diff between gap and not

[umbral crown]

just make 2 teams and you are down

thats 8k in your overall cp, not per team

[vapid lake]

Who knows maybe they don't know how to do that

[umbral crown]

[vapid lake]

I've gotten away with being a hoarder and still getting 3k gems for way, way, way too long

Without getting punished

[umbral crown]

are you c1? or c3?

[vapid lake]

C3

[fast harness]

I wish my brackets were that lax

[umbral crown]

sync?

[vapid lake]

301

[umbral crown]

[vapid lake]

The guys above me are 32x and the people who used to be behind me are now same level as me

[umbral crown]

just beat the bois

trust your investments

[vapid lake]

I need her -->

[eager mountain]

trust anchor

[umbral crown]

pull

and be lucky

[eager mountain]

maybe next normal will be her

[vapid lake]

I dead ass will reset modernia in a heartbeat to gear scar

On next skill reset

She's getting less and less useful in raid and campaign

[eager mountain]

[umbral crown]

I did reset modernia long ago

Do not even use her

[eager mountain]

i donno if imma do that to a daughter if im the commander man

[umbral crown]

She is just there... existing and getting dust

Good thing she has no investment, doll.and ol

[vapid lake]

She grown up dont need us anymore

[umbral crown]

[eager mountain]

bad parenting excuses

[vapid lake]

I think retire her from combat and keep her safe at home is good

[eager mountain]

babysitting results in insufferable lazyass individuals

[covert lintel]

so many character release but we don't know when skill reset available

[keen vapor]

Goodbye SG team, I'll never miss you .... Except for you Bunny Alice, you can stay

[eager mountain]

u sure

any noncore or any wind any elec, or any close range sr, sg team stonks

[vapid lake]

I mean we got cindy team, 3 support duo and crown team now for SR no? If boss not good for shotgun then shotgun go byebye
That also the reason why modernia getting harder to fit into team, realistically she can only go on cindy or crown team as 5th slot but surely theres better options

[eager mountain]

dont use balice now outside of water sr anyway

[swift mango]

Can SG team work without Tove? Because I'm reseting her.

[eager mountain]

no, it wont work

[keen vapor]

That

[keen vapor]

She's cute, that's my point

[keen vapor]

Modernia no longer works as off burst on bunny team

[swift mango]

B.Alice can health. My non OL raid roster need her. My B.Alice also no OL.

[vapid lake]

That y i feel its time to reset modernia

I got her to 10/10/7 to push campaign.. i need all of those back

[eager mountain]

for any of those senarios, sg team is generally the best t5, or even t4 if any of the conditions overlaps

[vapid lake]

I basically never use her anymore in campaign even so she just collecting dust

[keen vapor]

A year ago she was perfect partner with Crown bc of buff duration

[vapid lake]

not anymore

Now campaign team can run double mg without modernia shouldnt have trouble with dagger and glasses

[eager mountain]

mod competes for offburst spot not team spot, those are diff
maids killed mod cuz they occupy offburst spot, there are too many competitors

[vapid lake]

I know i just lazy to type offburst

That what i meant by 5th slot

[eager mountain]

sg team is good because its highly isolated team and allow resources to be used for other teams, outdated bunnies also works there pretty well
was about to wear out a bit but drake saved it pretty sure

just this sg team sux this sr

[swift mango]

Wake up when Tove can be used in Arena

[vapid lake]

Maybe when they remove rng and she can always get max stack very fast then sg can shoot faster before first burst

[swift mango]

That's good biscuit bait

[dim sapphire]

whats that one defense team very hard to counter right now

nero/moran?

nero,moran, quiry?

[swift mango]

Cindy Biscuit built right

[umbral crown]

thats if you really invest in the units

that team require max doll, max skill and good lines to work properly

[dim sapphire]

2rl?

[swift mango]

Oftenly 3rl.

[dim sapphire]

[swift mango]

2.5 RL is best range anyway.

[dim sapphire]

ill do it for the sake of CA

[umbral crown]

Chses sounds like a name with high sync

¨a whale

[dim sapphire]

high sync in my bracket obV

[umbral crown]

i felt it

[dim sapphire]

but im doing this for my free to play

[umbral crown]

481?

oh nice

you can start working in the doll of those units and skills

[vapid lake]

New chapter in 7 day resist

[umbral crown]

once you build them you will see the difference

[umbral crown]

does not matter

thats what hoarder says and never use their boxes

echo saying he will open boxes and its been a year

[vapid lake]

Same leggo

[umbral crown]

🧱

[vapid lake]

Echo is echo

Im not echo

[umbral crown]

echo 2.0?

[vapid lake]

I will actually open everything

Once i up my outpost level

[swift mango]

I have 2 level ready but will wait. Others lower peeps in my bracket still not pass 341 and I'm 343. No reason to rush.

[umbral crown]

too many bricks

[umbral crown]

you will repeat it x100 and boxes getting dust. trust

[vapid lake]

[dim sapphire]

what is the rest comp for nero,quiry,moran

[swift mango]

Oh wait, I'm 344 now.

[vapid lake]

What if i dont? U buy me starbucks?

[umbral crown]

rapunzel and biscuit or helm treasure

[dim sapphire]

helmtr, sbs? or rapunzel, any dbs

[umbral crown]

but you can change for a dps instead helm treasure

sbs, laplace+, cindy

you can be creative there for a better experience

since quiry does not have damage at all

[swift mango]

Star up your butts.

[umbral crown]

maybe

[dim sapphire]

Any more videos showcasing moran,nero with helmtr?

[umbral crown]

probably nope i know but maybe someone with invested units can show

[swift mango]

Keripo tested it and said not as good as he thought it would be.

[dim sapphire]

i know blood have them built, show

[swift mango]

So maybe @ him

[umbral crown]

oh, Chses knows, go blood

[swift mango]

I don't have

[umbral crown]

sus

[swift mango]

Just don't have the resources and no Rapunzel.

[umbral crown]

Pull issues

[dim sapphire]

oh wait i mistaken blood as merry, merry has them built 😂

[umbral crown]

@keen vapor

[swift mango]

I really want to build Nero though but I deleted most of my T9M gear.

[swift mango]

Merry is definitely has that team.

[umbral crown]

Oh he does

[swift mango]

He Max out Nero and Moran. Idk about Helm though

Doubt

[dim sapphire]

already working on helm cause of burst gen

[swift mango]

Phase 3 is hard

[umbral crown]

Maybe no yet but once phase 3 is unlocked then new posibilities will be on the way

I will get phase 3 in less than a week

But burst lv10 its another story

[swift mango]

Only whale like Keripo who can exchange treasures mats get Drake and HelmT phase 3 now.

Common peeps won't

[umbral crown]

still not a big deal since soon many people will get phase 3, people rushed because SR

but SR is over, now everything will come eventually

[swift mango]

The problem with HelmT as solo burst 3 is that she is WATER and will just get one shot by high Ele Cindy, Rossana or Scarlet

So your team can't burst anyway.

[umbral crown]

just make a team that she can survive, ez

no need to think hard, if so your emilia would never burst

[swift mango]

Even Keripo can't I would assume.

[umbral crown]

we can not compare with keripo

[vapid lake]

He did

[umbral crown]

do not be scared of water units, everyone uses emi and she is water

[vapid lake]

Need to find his post here or on commcord but he used mana to revive helm

[dim sapphire]

rapunzel then

[swift mango]

Well, he said it's weaker than he thought so it's definitely loses a lot.

[vapid lake]

But obviously normal ppl no mats to build that many stall units

[umbral crown]

but emi is water

[swift mango]

Especially those stall unit need high level bracket to even work properly

My noise is eating dust at the moment

[umbral crown]

Same

[vapid lake]

Mine i left her at 7/4/7 i don't think i will ever get her to 10

no enough skill books

[swift mango]

Me 577
Maybe I will revisit her after I get more units that could combo with her.

[vapid lake]

There will be new units out to eat the skill books

[swift mango]

Even Moran I only use her for Attack now... Also 577...

[vapid lake]

Wont go back to feed older units unless have skill reset

[swift mango]

There aren't much PvP units release. Even new Anchor is just inferior Noise. Functionally wise.

[eager mountain]

b2 skill just more competitive in general + shes water

[swift mango]

Water is a debuff in Arena

[eager mountain]

curse

[valid fern]

but she's cute 😭

[swift mango]

Imagine Nero with Water attributes. Merry won't be so merry anymore.

[valid fern]

i wanna build Nero for funny cat sounds

[eager mountain]

thoguht cindy would be water

[vapid lake]

🚔

[swift mango]

That would make being water less miserable than now.

[valid fern]

yabai

[swift mango]

???

[eager mountain]

yabe-

[vapid lake]

https://tenor.com/view/jujutsu-kaisen-discord-kaisen-ryomen-sukuna-i-saw-what-you-deleted-l-kid-gif-13817497167184742675

Yabai

[eager mountain]

twit is just a good place since japanese artist all there

[valid fern]

lol. do you have the Alice version too

[eager mountain]

no worry if shes water her burst wont be bugged and thus sux in arena

[swift mango]

That's why I don't use her as main burst 3 in defense.

[vapid lake]

The moran one not hidden enough to be funny

[swift mango]

Moran is being moron as always.

No Mari rerun?

[eager mountain]

those are new banners

[vapid lake]

never underestimate gacha greed, maybe just not announced yet

5 banner at once sounds like good idea to some greedy suit

[eager mountain]

i think they announced there will be reruns initially?

[swift mango]

Doubt. Maybe Mari because skin.

[valid fern]

Shifty 😭

my only true regret starting as a late player. missing out on playable shifty

[vapid lake]

It was just for april fool

[eager mountain]

doro nuked the ark, shiftea injured and become overspec nik

[swift mango]

Can I use MirandaT instead of Tove for shotgun team.

[lapis field]

Thank you again!!

[eager mountain]

no, mirandaT doesnt have bullet speed buff

shotgun teams strictly having well invested tove and decently invested boda

[swift mango]

But Crit dmg good for sg ?

[eager mountain]

some crit good for sg but her one shot buff doesnt do much

i mean shes def not bad for sg team

just that tove is essentially a core

[swift mango]

Can anyone confirm if Miranda guarantees Crit work with Ein/B Soda nuke or no?

[eager mountain]

if u replace tove might as well run non-sg team 5

[vapid lake]

Tove give ammo to sg unit too not just speed

[swift mango]

But what non SG team use Miranda? Maxwell+Snowwhite?

[eager mountain]

pretty much that, sw still need some skills investment

[swift mango]

Drake give more than Tove already

[eager mountain]

or they can release new water carry thats weapon swap one shot

[vapid lake]

No tove keep crafting ammo in combat and constantly refund +1 shot to sg unit

But need luck

[eager mountain]

ye, but the speed goes brrrrrrrrrr broken

even giving sg team infinite reload wont do much but the brrrrrrr speeed

[vapid lake]

If tove no rng she double the dps of shotgun team

[eager mountain]

it goes brrrrrr and hardcarrys sg

[vapid lake]

The ammo help them shoot longer at that fast speed so they reload less

[eager mountain]

so yeah at least lv9 s1 for decent rng

expensive

some argue that lv6 is enough... i mean... good luck with rng

[vapid lake]

Tove burst also need high lvl its ridiculous dps buff for sg

[eager mountain]

that burst doesnt do much number tho

so high investment isnt as crucial
9, 7-10, 4-7-10, something like that

[steady zenith]

Whats the best line up for sp arena?

[eager mountain]

the "best" line up would be depending on ur investment and how well ur opponent is

[steady zenith]

I have the rss

I want to build the team right now

[rich quail]

What’s rss?

[steady zenith]

Okay what about s.anis team

Resources

[vapid lake]

ET cooking?

[eager mountain]

well we can tell u what to do, but whether someone would built u a team or not

[rich quail]

No

I just wanted to know what rss was

[valid fern]

for a sec I thought he meant to type "I have the ass"

[dim sapphire]

truthful speaking, anyone actually oled anis for people who is in the top 10 in their pvp bracket? Cp difference is nuts

[steady zenith]

Currently i have shotgun team : tove, b.alice, leona, maid privaty, b.soda

[vapid lake]

I havent yet but plan to at some point

[eager mountain]

pve team isnt and wont be pvp team

[rich quail]

my s.anis is decent

[steady zenith]

2nd team got : sbs, emilia, noah, jackal, and biscuit

[eager mountain]

even without thinking of cp, u want the CS ol lines for clip rl so

[steady zenith]

Currently stuck at diamond 1

[valid fern]

I got insanely lucky with my sanis ol and dolls. she is my second most cp padded character despite only having one merge.

[steady zenith]

So what nikke do you guys usually pair with s.anis?

[vapid lake]

I dont use her

[eager mountain]

noah noise if for stalling

[steady zenith]

Scarlet still good in pvp?

[eager mountain]

good

[swift mango]

I OL SR Anis and even fished CS for her.

Only non pvp evade OL Anis.

[dim sapphire]

is cs sharing bug the reason for cs fishing on clip rl?

why look for cs again

[eager mountain]

faster burst gen

[swift mango]

Clip RL need CS so you could make 2.5rl teams

Your bracket doesn't have that guy with 3rl team who always beat your 3rl team?

[dim sapphire]

probably

[valid fern]

the real potential is 1.5rl team

[eager mountain]

gl tossing all ur rocks there

[dim sapphire]

is 2 line enough for 2.5 rl?

[eager mountain]

17% total

[dim sapphire]

haha , no.

[eager mountain]

so 4 lines usually

[dim sapphire]

no thanks.

[eager mountain]

or 3 good ones + adju, its expensive lol

[dim sapphire]

fishing for cs and losing on cp

for first time ol

and u have people just overpower u

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message

Look at how 3rl Blanc caught 2RL scarlet with enough CS on LapT.

[dim sapphire]

lapt not clip?

[eager mountain]

lapt is offdps and still have some burstgen so cs on lapt still good

just that usually its prioritzed for clip rl, for usual best burst gen return

[swift mango]

All RL need CS

[dim sapphire]

so all clip rl need 4 lines?

[swift mango]

At least 3

[eager mountain]

if u care enough to toss rocks in pvp, thats where the rocks go outside of ur carries

[swift mango]

And 3 line OL for CP pad

[eager mountain]

anis, jackel, rumani, centi, eHelm, emilia, and maybe noah and so on

[dim sapphire]

is one unit with 3 line cs enough to make a difference or is better with another nikke with 3 line cs in a team?

[eager mountain]

depends on what team

usuaslly u want 2 of them in a team to work

[dim sapphire]

is that 21% emilia

[swift mango]

21% Emi but it doesn't matter in this case because Jackal has 0 CS.

So the team is down to Jackal CS

2rl exactly

Not my PvP but the one I credited to.

LapT looks like her bullet doesn't have flying time. That's how that team was so fast I guess.

It's 501-521 bracket.

So similar to Tibi's

[dim sapphire]

noted cs for rl.

[eager mountain]

as weird as it sounds, tHelm cs is highest priority

[valid fern]

wait what? Is that true? no travel time?

[eager mountain]

since she has the most burstgen even tho shes not even an rl

[solemn matrix]

👀 You waging war in Rookie Arena or something Chses?

[swift mango]

Just me guess. Take it with a grain of salt

[eager mountain]

laplace weapn is a bit unique so

[swift mango]

Anyway, should be much faster than normal RL bullet

[valid fern]

no travel time sort of gives a fake CS buff. Helm also benefits from this.

[eager mountain]

laplace's normal hit does have travel time

just that it looks smaller, and might be faster as well

more like, ppl dont account rl travel time often enough

yeah its a bit faster

irregular rls like emi might have a chance to behave differently from standard rl bullets as well

when burst gen spamming in pve using rl, if u know the bullets u need, u wouldnt spam til the gauge fills cuz other niks will fill it before u fire another rl and hits after travel time

for instance maiden team against mc would take 9 spams to fill burst gauge, u can spam 10th but it doesnt matter, just burning her ammo when her s1s2 requires full charge
first rotation will be 10 shots instead cuz mc doesnt spawn and other niks have windup

lil dmg optimization bs if u wanna max mc dmg
technically spamming with xmaiden then spam last 2 bullets with rouge is faster, but 1st phase doesnt need that
and second phase can mess up rouge stack when dealing with slippers
can still reach max 3-n s speed with xmaiden spam alone anyway

[valid fern]

i still dont understand how ppl generate so much burst by spamming. whenever I spam with red hood it generates barely anything.

[swift mango]

Theorically speaking, Rossana has the most burst gen in one RL.

[eager mountain]

fastest when u hit cover and pierces as many mobs as possible, thats how some campaign get instant burst gen for 1st rotation

other then that its just spamming speed practice

[valid fern]

im aware of pierce, thats the only way I was able to get the initial fast burst on MW by piercing the missiles. but looking at other clear videos they just spammed at the boss itself lol.

[eager mountain]

charge it if boss doesnt appear frame 1, extra charge has extra gen, hitting parts also extra gen

so for instance leaving parts that u can multihit alive can help with piercer burst gen

[valid fern]

oh i didnt know about parts giving extra gen. they all aimed for the mw core. that makes sense

[eager mountain]

they dont give extra gen

just that some parts u can pierce thru with main body, gives extra

[valid fern]

o. important distinction.

[eager mountain]

or simply hitting multiple parts at once alongside main body

and its a case for MW turrets

especially obvious when u hit it with rl

[swift mango]

Maybe it's a sign that SU tell me to not getting Miranda treasure.

[valid fern]

My rapipi is like that. Shit OLs and shit doll luck. I gave up on her, honestly might even skill reset her lmao. Ill just continue using the real Red Hood.

[eager mountain]

my rapi has pretty good ol luck so far

also 4 ammo rapi is another bs they made up of, unless they strictly talking about b1 rrh

resil + reload speed like most of the team she want to be in eliminates wind up except forcing pure fire sr team, ~750 ammo is the sweetspot not 4 ammo lines, only explosion doesnt crit so crit but most of the proj dmg comes from attachment not explosion, 4 lines will force her to reload in random fullburst, ~750 is the sweetspot for pc + proper burst gen to reload only outside of fullburst for max proj stack as b3, never bad to have extra ammo for mg, but 4 ammo lines shouldnt be the minmax goal, its 3 or even 2

[sleek ginkgo]

Need help beat him pls

Here is My box

[eager mountain]

t1 4RLs (with b1 b2 perferablly has wind elem line, no sbs)+ tLaplace might as well snipes his rapun before he burst (more like i wanna see if its possible here) or 2rl cindy
t2 slower indom
t3 3-rl cindy/nuke

[sleek ginkgo]

Ty, I'm a still a novice in pvp, can't understand half of it.
T1, how can I snipe his Rapunzel if Noah takes the agro? I don't have tlaplace.
T2 slower indom, I don't know how I can achieve that

[eager mountain]

rl splash hits p2 equally, but u dont have tLaplace dont think its possible at all then, just 2rl cindy
t2 slower indom takes rng cuz scar s2 can make rl speed inconsistent, without rosa this will be the toughest team so id just ignore this and go for t1 t3

[sleek ginkgo]

My scarlet team doesn't work against his T1 ?

[eager mountain]

no, his team1 should be 3rl, just 2rl cindy nuke her, ur scar team isnt 2rl
also his emi and tlaplace might have slight chance killing ur p1p2, make sure u can burst

[sleek ginkgo]

So 2 RL Cindy T1, and scarlet T3 ?

[eager mountain]

pretty much

cindy must be p4 or p5, else he prob become 2.5rl, emi hits p3 and cindy decoy gives emi gen

[tulip quest]

Oh yes Nikke EVANGELION But... i duo pulled already IT WAS BAIT NOOOOOOOO//////

/(>.>) / /__/

why duo when next banner was collab NANDE!!!!

And duo also

[eager mountain]

we all know its eva after this, u didnt saw the pre-newyear news?

[tulip quest]

yea I didn't

was my bad I guess

[eager mountain]

the maids are pretty good tho

look at how cute anchor is

[tulip quest]

yes they are

I don't really regret it this will be a longshot but at least 1 copy each

PLEASE RNG MAN

[eager mountain]

getting dups is easily the reason why ppl running out of gems

[tulip quest]

Like I already pulled for some1 to waste 100 pulls having nothing this is gonna be trauma again if it happens

[eager mountain]

im literally sitting with more and more gem, average pull luck, not going for dups, and occassionally ignoreing some banners

[tulip quest]

My friend wasted 200pulls no copy of banner

[eager mountain]

recent worse was rumani costing 150 ish pulls i think

[sleek ginkgo]

Does this work ?
Noah, anis, noise, Cinderella, thelm skill 1,2 lvl 10

[tulip quest]

Noah Noise

2 taunter must be side by side or Farthest left or right

[eager mountain]

no, noise will taunt and turn them into 2rl

[eager mountain]

the thing is that if he noise p5, cindy decoy also making enemy team 2.5 rl

[tulip quest]

taunt 3rd position = 3 x 2 hits 3 for character and 3 for cover

[sleek ginkgo]

Pepper ?

[tulip quest]

No no I mean

Noah and noise by each other

Noah, Noise Anis Cindy Thelm

cause if noise taunts a rocket launcher at pos 3 Enemy RL will hit 3 characters including their cover

[eager mountain]

yes but dependending on his and their cs

honestly most b1 will still get u 2rl if u toss 3 quantum

but if anis will get u deficit then

[sleek ginkgo]

Got it gonna try it

[eager mountain]

tho ur cindy might want good investment without noise or real buffer, unless helm s2 already buffs her nuke

946k is ur lowest cp before hitting deficit

[tropic summit]

check CP deficit and go

[eager mountain]

he dont have tLaplace

[sleek ginkgo]

And Rapunzel either

[tropic summit]

dafuq

sync lvl 484

well that's fine tho, can run emi instead of laplace

[eager mountain]

its old prigrim

[sleek ginkgo]

Got 500 pilgrim mold

[tropic summit]

and can run 2nd defender in p2

either that or just 2RL cindy nuke, other team can be scar-jack

no rumani either now that i see

[sleek ginkgo]

2 RL Cindy, 918 k cp , his T1 1.117 k cp is it still fine ?

[eager mountain]

u dont need rapun, but u have cp issue, so running centi instead of anis will force u to use rl/ar/sr/sg b1, tho any should work

[eager mountain]

not fine

[tropic summit]

this unless in deficit

get helmT and wishlist rumani and rapu asap tho

[eager mountain]

he has helmT

just that his roster screenshot is old

[sleek ginkgo]

I have helmT

[eager mountain]

u both in same level interval hes not yet 501 why most of ur niks already hitting deficit

[sleek ginkgo]

T1, 915 k cp

I think I Should I just leave him alone and hit another guy

[eager mountain]

which t1 tho

with liter?

[sleek ginkgo]

Yes

Can I slot rapi red, she has huge cp, like 50 k over liter

[eager mountain]

even liter among ur highest cp b1 hitting deficit

rrh doesnt have enough gen

u need 946k

[sleek ginkgo]

I can hit 501 but new chapter coming soon

[eager mountain]

ur units are pretty underinvested

shouldnt hit deficit there when most of the units from that p1 are already among ur invested ones

no dolls?

[sleek ginkgo]

True no dolls on liter

I got lots of dolls

Gonna put it

[eager mountain]

if u have excessive smg doll, yeah ig

rrh benched granny so u wont really need her doll's cp in campaign anymore

but his units are indeed quite invested 1100k+ at 500
prob has ol lines rolled for pvp cp padding

[sleek ginkgo]

Read it wrong 980 k cp
2 RL Cindy/liter

Go ?

[eager mountain]

yolo