pvp-arena

[random tundra]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

[quick lake]

That’s so weird maybe he’s jist testing teams

[upper grove]

seems to have stopped attacking for the time being

[umbral crown]

yeah, Helmt with S1 max can give more gen than anis

[swift mango]

That would be the day I stop using my biscuit as lv60 I guess.

[unborn crystal]

thank you sir , love u

[unborn crystal]

can i see ur 3 defense team sir ?

[umbral crown]

i onced tried biscuit with max doll against S.anis and she lived to burst

[umbral crown]

its a normal defense

Moran-Viper+ (phase 3 ) S.Anis-Biscuit-Cindy
Scarlet-Noah-Laplace+ - Rosanna-Jackal
Blanc-Ein-Emi-Rapu-Centi

1 year and no RH still

[unborn crystal]

ah scarlet brust and blanc + emi team that same with me

[umbral crown]

but in your case you have more units so you can do better teams

[umbral crown]

Scarlet does not burst

she is not linked so she dies fast

thats the trick

you can use emi as battery instead and burst wit another unit to make them thing how to beat you

[unborn crystal]

i like emi bcs OTK

[umbral crown]

but if it works for you then its nice, that teams practically kills anything

but the more weird teams you make, the more chances to keep your spot

cuz people are not used to fight those kinda of teams, usually not many people burst with ein

[unborn crystal]

i think gap CP gap lvl is my problem

[umbral crown]

[unborn crystal]

my enemy is rank 7 guy , i beat him 100% everyday with same team same comp

but today him upgrade favorite items gap cp

i loose lol~

[umbral crown]

thats because you do not make atk teams depending of the enemy

most of the time you can focus on 2 teams and skip 1

the problem using defense for atk is that when people realizes that , they can just put in defense the teams that counter yours and then you will always lose

[tulip quest]

When pvp player goes SOLO Raid, my Emilia stronger than my Cindy dps even with Rouge and S.Anis XD

[strong hull]

The boss is water weak....

[tulip quest]

Yea but even in COOP water weak Cindy out dps EMILIA Normally

not to mention this is Rouge and S.anis mainly cindy buffers

[strong hull]

technically emilia not a bossing unit

[tulip quest]

You just said my point man

[strong hull]

[strong hull]

So your point is emilia can out cp cinderella in water weak boss right

[limber rampart]

can rumani survive before burst?

[eager mountain]

water weak + emi aoe has some use + consistent core + adds killing cindy's relative dmg in comparsion

[tulip quest]

Bro the point is a pvp unit, which is not a raid unit cause most top rankers don't even use her OUTDPS Cindy you already answered my point already.

[swift mango]

Hard choice

[eager mountain]

she would live, and thus bursting instead of rh lol

[strong hull]

So its basically water weak

Nothing special

[eager mountain]

ideally cindy would wanna burst right before mobs spawn for the boss dmg, assuming u can clear stun mobs later on

[tulip quest]

just emi normal attack can wipe mobs

[strong hull]

the funny part is those mobs can tank all cinderella burst into 1 if we slow open burst make her lose dmg

[tulip quest]

charged emi splash

[strong hull]

[tulip quest]

Just normal attack with emi the mobs man

[eager mountain]

its really funny the see cindy team being the lowest dmg team in top rankers lmfao

[strong hull]

Soooo trolling lol

[tulip quest]

ya

I burst with Emi = wipe mobs

then burst with Cindy all her BURST hits

BOSS

[eager mountain]

the da*ned MW machanic but at least this recolor raid isnt as boring

[tulip quest]

I just watched Sky video and raid become easier

[eager mountain]

another thing is this boss is pretty much "designed for" phantom, her most ideal raid boss, and yet using her or not doesnt really change total dmg much, doesnt worth the investment at all lol

rip phantom

[tulip quest]

When you have Red hood and Crown MW becomes easier I finished my hard MW faily lower leveled was 320 or 340

HC MW

Phantom is kinda meh

[eager mountain]

yeah i saw a guy finished MW at 317 sync, prob wasnt possible at all back then

[tulip quest]

only crazy people finish MW level like 320 without red hood or Crown

the rapture mechanic where MW wipes you out

tho that time I just sacrifice my red hood her taunt ability she died but we killed whale

[eager mountain]

his practiced more then enough to time crown invluning elite mob phase just that the missile phase requires rng for his team to live at low sync

[tulip quest]

Yea it was nicely done

1 sec late ur dead

1 sec advance your dead

Perfectly timed

[eager mountain]

theres half second ish of timing window for that (assuming s2 lv10), just that mg windup makes it harder then it looks

[coarse lake]

your cindy is weak

even if my emilia had 100% ele she wouldn't beat my cindy dmg

[eager mountain]

hes clearing mobs with emi burst so thats a lot of excessive nuke splash dmg

[tulip quest]

My Cindy is about 170k CP ATK ELE4X +1 MAX AMMO My Emi 180k CP ATK ELE Charge speed 4x Except gloves which is AMMO ATK ELE

[tulip quest]

My emi about 90% Ele

[coarse lake]

yeah prob excess nuke splash dmg then

[tulip quest]

if you don't really care bout dps here you can also use snow white innocent days

I also used her on MW mechanic HC

[swift mango]

Most of Emi dmg is on the mobs, not the boss.

In other water boss, Emi can't beat Cindy at all.

Don't try to trick people who knows.

Emi is an okay bossing unit when there are add included.

[covert lintel]

did someone try SW x emilia with Tmiranda?

for bossing of course

[eager mountain]

SW for this sr? prob not

[coarse lake]

ppl have run sw teams, actually not that bad

[eager mountain]

for this sr, the issue comes with wanting to s3 helm first
SW can do decent boss dmg yeah, tho 5 sec charge doesnt help with mobs
but on top of having s2 treasure tmiranda somehow, they would wanna run it with another b3 thats good at dealing with mobs and benefits from crit rate

[tulip quest]

my Cindy is core 5 Emilia only MLB'd you can do the math yourself but Rouge and S.Anis specifically buffs cindy the most

For reference im gonna try Liter this time and not rouge

[swift mango]

Yeah, like I said, this boss has add and Emi dmg is from attacking the adds. That's why she is good in campaign and shit in solo boss...

[eager mountain]

2.5b total but 1.8b actual boss damage, thats where the splash dmg went
well and also cindy burst

[swift mango]

I'm using Emi everywhere since I got her. While I don't have the resources to get 4 ATK lines for her it's not much a difference in her overall performance.

She is meta in Arena. Good in campaign and boss that has adds. Pretty bad in boss without adds.

But she is built so I bring her everytime I could.

[coarse lake]

your emi only did 617mil actual dmg lol

[eager mountain]

anti cindy and emi friendly boss

[coarse lake]

cindy shouldn't be doing any "fake numbers", even if hitting mobs

unless the mobs have a lot less def than boss

[eager mountain]

cindy burst does some fake number cuz it should be quite overkilling if hitting mobs

[coarse lake]

if it's the same dmg number then it won't matter, just pretend those numbers are on boss

[eager mountain]

but yeah pretty much the reason why cindy team sux so bad in this sr, and does less dmg then elem neutral boss that doesnt have core

[coarse lake]

just don't cindy burst into mobs

[tulip quest]

Yea i use Emi

[eager mountain]

meanwhile mfs can pretend water dps doesnt suxsuxsux when this raids gonna have the highest sr dmg not cuz water dps but having consistent core is quite a rare thing now

[coarse lake]

this raid was my highest dmg yeah

meh quency, all other niche raid water dps unbuilt and unused

maids played a big factor here for me, and also core yeah

[eager mountain]

the last sr boss with consistent core was like... indivilia?
kraken consistent enough ig

gd's only works for piercer i think, tho iron dps was pretty much all piercers

[tulip quest]

Yea like Water Raid has so few water CARRY

[wintry viper]

hi all, what's a good team against this?

[eager mountain]

2rl nuke or any biscuit+p1 defender

[swift mango]

Blanc+non defender b1/2 flex+Emi+RH+Biscuit

100% win rate....

[tight gorge]

what team can I use for rookie arena, cause I'm not too sure

[eager mountain]

highest 2 cp + dolla/grave + rrh + emilia for now

tho sync 160 with emilia, ur arenas bricked

[tight gorge]

my base cp is around 100k

[swift mango]

Hit auto button

[wintry viper]

Thank you

[swift mango]

Make sure RH and Biscuit have higher HP than Emi if you want to be sure

But should still win without Blanc hitting Emi ecause their whole team got stuck on Blanc.

[tulip quest]

I tested With Liter Maxwell calculating the +5core of Cindy as well yea she still Out dps Emilia by about 50M Demn I didn't made a mistake of Doing a core 5 of my CINDY Highest dps

Like you know a character is broke when SHE Outdps a water weak specialist character with 90element even adding Emi really good at this certain boss

[eager mountain]

ugh, while cindy is broken, this type of boss simply making cindy team a team 5

[tulip quest]

yea so many mobs

[eager mountain]

having crazy sr dmg isnt really that crazy to me personally, cindy's best point is that shes also meta in pvp, that makes her highest priority tier

if she sux in pvp and only broken in sr, i'd argue sbs is better to invest due to mining, among other meta campaign units

[tulip quest]

Also shift up said Anchor skill didn't work well and gave compensation just now so if you raid using anchor, and wanna mald mode you can retry again for more dps

I'll just SR tommorow was just testing stuff today

[swift mango]

Please SU, give Sugar as much burst gen as HelmT.

[eager mountain]

i dont mald sr until last day, usually just testing mechanics first few days

[swift mango]

I'm praying to you RNG god.

Or make her Normal attack hit all like Rapipi

[tulip quest]

How about SOLINE?

Yea some top rankers actually did use SOLINE AND Sugar on a solo raid specifically Shinonon

[eager mountain]

if trasure sugar stonks, cool
if she sux anyway, we acquire the final puzzle of the doomed cafe sweety treasure
either senario is a win

[swift mango]

Sugar will be in next treasure batch if they follow schedule. And she is one of my favorites in this game. Please do her justice as the strongest Tetra Nikke.

[tulip quest]

yea Milk is kinda underwhelming compared to Helm and other treasures like drake

[tulip quest]

Let us HOPE For Cope my friend

[swift mango]

Imagine if Sugar Normal attack could hit all 5 nikkes...

[swift mango]

Even sequencely would do.

[eager mountain]

[vapid lake]

U cant say the name of US president banned word

[swift mango]

You just said the forbidden T word bro

[eager mountain]

jesus christ

joe biden

barack obama

[grand plaza]

Putting Cinderella to pos 2 would help enemies burst gen? Should I avoid it or it is all good?

[eager mountain]

whats the fu*king deal, if they dont want politics might as well block every single major politicans name

[eager mountain]

avoid

[swift mango]

Jesus Christ for next president

[vapid lake]

Average discord mods only enforce thing that they dont like

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/peace-sign-we-can-do-this-here-for-you-believe-in-you-we-got-you-gif-14392536696858876853

[eager mountain]

u dare to complain mods?

https://tenor.com/view/1984-movie-projector-gif-19435282

[vapid lake]

No its not worth losing iq talking to discord mods

[eager mountain]

safe space for everyone btw

[tulip quest]

lol what is this?

[eager mountain]

except for certain ppl

[vapid lake]

Just be glad mods dont actually bother looking at this channel

[eager mountain]

type the curr US presidents name

[swift mango]

We have a T fanatic amongst us!
69
.

[tulip quest]

Tramp

[eager mountain]

u coward

[tulip quest]

XD

I can't help i love chatting in this discord

[vapid lake]

Bro im not from freedomland i dun care who the president is

[eager mountain]

im pretty sure the chinese knows and cares about americans politics way more then chinese politics

[swift mango]

I think most Asian people know who their next term president be without voting, much more easily than US current term.

At least there are drama to watch on the US

[eager mountain]

its gold, and those who cant even talk about politics in their own country can assume US has the worst gov cuz of all the stu*id dramas

[raven plover]

when sp arena shuffle again

[eager mountain]

end of feb

[raven plover]

thanks king

[vapid lake]

Add more whale into bracket shuffle

[eager mountain]

blood summarized his paragraph into

btw we can bring back the spamming day, the day when we toxicized blood into spamming

[swift mango]

Wake me up when they make Elegg's treasure.

[vapid lake]

?

[eager mountain]

u turned blue and i turned white

[ancient rune]

[swift mango]

I don't pull for maid, help!

[tulip quest]

can use dolla for burst 2 n others

some raids I even use Jackal LOL

[swift mango]

Well, it's fine I just call agent for help

/jk

[tulip quest]

Raid is usually more pay2win and pvp is more doable if you focus raid first your gem generation on pvp rankings will suffer

Old players focus more pve, New players pvp but at same time build your main team, most whales live in older generation, newer generation players = less whale

[swift mango]

Tell that to @lunar dirge

And his lv700 c1 and he around 400

[tulip quest]

hahahaha yea that sometimes happen

[lunar dirge]

695 vs 371*

[swift mango]

He will be 700 when you hit 400 alright

His limiter should be not enough dupes rather than resources.

Man I'm chatting here when too tired to even finish the current sim ex ..

[tulip quest]

Go sleep man

[swift mango]

Maybe no hope for frame II this raid, maybe.

[wicked horizon]

Never seen this before...
Blanc missed her indom

So anyways I sunk all potential gains from attacking with gems and might take the loss of falling to 11th place anyways.

How the hell does Blanc miss her indom?

Do I submit a bug report?

[brazen ledge]

maybe ? ive never seen that either

[tulip quest]

if you have recording they prolly will take care of that

just probably tho

[tulip quest]

you have recording?

can put here?

[wicked horizon]

I do not record all of my PvP battles, no.

Wish they had replays. 🤷

[glad meteor]

There’s a small cast time for indom to take effect. During that short period of time the unit can die. They’ll be left with 25% hp but ko’d

Like here

[wicked horizon]

Cursed

[swift mango]

Tried out this solo raid, I'm so weak for it I guess. My nikkes all do 1 dmg to the mobs lol.... It's good that your Emilia could deal hundreds thousands of DMG to the mobs somehow.

My bad

[summer copper]

You can kill the mobs before they activate their 1 damage per bullet thing

[swift mango]

How?

[summer copper]

By killing them quickly

[swift mango]

I hit them as soon as they appeared but still 1 dmg...

[summer copper]

I guess you are just simply too weak for it then

[swift mango]

They ded to distribute dmg real quick but otherwise....

[glad meteor]

Not fast enough. Need screen wipe like mari, dist damage, or pause scum. Rapi timed bomb can work

[brazen ledge]

@swift mango trying to work on the sr ?

[swift mango]

Yeah, I guess this SR is too phone unfriendly then. Gonna sleep on this one. My SBS team dealing 2m is enough.

I didn't know this game was this much designed to be PC main game. Had I known I would have reconsidered installing this in the first place. Oh well, glad I was never sweaty on raid at all.

ESC button for more dmg is a thing but making it impossible for mobile player to play without ESC button or distribution dmg is a tad bit too much on the dev here.

I should have built my Elegg so I had a second team I guess. Too late now

Oh well, my Elegg will be built later regardless.

[glad meteor]

Elegg user

[brazen ledge]

It works fine on phone, even for pve

[swift mango]

Not this raid

[summer copper]

This raid is one of the easier ones

[swift mango]

Most PvE need PC to clear at higher deficit and need PC to macro Alice to clear in highest deficit as well.

But well, it's just a matter of deficit so it's fine.

[swift mango]

For PC user that is

Can't do dmg to mob = team wiped in half a min

Welp, I should have pulled doro.

[summer copper]

Just time bursts to mobs

Screen wipe bursts

[swift mango]

My Cindy ulti deal 1 dmg to the mobs.

[summer copper]

And my maid priv kills them

[swift mango]

if I could pause at exactly when the mobs appear, at unpause > activate skill > pause.

[summer copper]

You don’t need to pause

[swift mango]

God finger and 2000$ phone I guess. Maybe a retro gaming kits.

[summer copper]

Only fingerin i’m doing here is tapping bursts and moving for qtes, everything else is auto

This phone is just an iphone 14 plus too so not that good

Of course, i’m not doing anything competitive on a phone, but it’s enough

[swift mango]

Guess I will try with Scarlet to see how it goes.

[glad meteor]

Cindy can’t wipe all mobs too

[swift mango]

Okay, it work, but after half the fight the mob summoning too fast I need 2 wipe in one team.

I just don't have that many wiper

[swift mango]

Does Mari unbuilt wipe work?

[kindred tinsel]

please give me better placement this time game

[keen vapor]

Go higher

[kindred tinsel]

i cant

[glad meteor]

Need buffer

[keen vapor]

You could if you didn't brick every event

[glad meteor]

I use rh buffer

[kindred tinsel]

know what ill try

diamond 5 seems possible

unbricking time

now @keen vapor help me beat this guy

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Have you tried that already?

[kindred tinsel]

yeah lost 0-3 ssanis blanc wiped before burst

biscuit wiped b4 burst too

[keen vapor]

Ah, I see the problem, don't use Laplace or Anis won't be linked

[keen vapor]

Swap position with Noise, she has highest HP

[kindred tinsel]

i was thinking jackal isnt needed here against this team

but she does have higher cp for pvp

[swift mango]

So I guess I have 3 team.

SBS

Red buffed Mari

Emi and Cindy switcheroo.

Good enough.

Thank you

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

However, I'm unsure whether anis will get Indom, will RH HP be higher?

[swift mango]

Okay, thanks, I guess I could build 3 teams for this solo raid.

[keen vapor]

Overload biscuit pls

Don't tell me you didn't overloaded Noah and Noise

[kindred tinsel]

@keen vapor see

[keen vapor]

Overload

[keen vapor]

Wait, why Noah is same CP

Reroll her and give her a cube

[kindred tinsel]

which one

[keen vapor]

every line is phase 11

Let's go with cube then....

[swift mango]

This is good enough for CP padding. Reroll need lots of rock to be more CP.

[kindred tinsel]

my brain feels small here

[swift mango]

Your luck is good

Not super good but good enough.

[kindred tinsel]

[swift mango]

Unless you want CS on Noah. Then oh well.

[kindred tinsel]

no spending im still saving

@keen vapor

still no tempering cube can this work

[brazen ledge]

Macroers are just bad at the game

[keen vapor]

In the meantime....

[swift mango]

Well, I would assume 90% of people who clear everything at 35% deficit use macro.

Maybe more.

[brazen ledge]

At least i don’t, and for mobile, look at Tessa’s mw run (burnedpigeon on yt)

[kindred tinsel]

should do i the match

[keen vapor]

I'm genuinely surprised, how noah team is getting behind in CP

[kindred tinsel]

she doesnt have doll lv

[keen vapor]

[kindred tinsel]

and its purple phase 0

[keen vapor]

Seems good

[keen vapor]

inefficient

[umbral crown]

Ez....

Lack of investment

[keen vapor]

Wait

[keen vapor]

You never answered

[kindred tinsel]

havent checked stats yet but rh should have the most hp

she did manage to burst but still lost

[keen vapor]

:deadge: Emi nuke it is

[kindred tinsel]

switch posit?

also look

still bricked and think noah wants to keep def but cp is cp right

[keen vapor]

Who ....

[keen vapor]

We both told you it was alright already now press blue blue line good

Def bad

[kindred tinsel]

wait huh

[keen vapor]

Defense is bad

[kindred tinsel]

oh nvm read that wrong

luckily i quit the game

[swift mango]

He gonna get CP down thanks to you .

[kindred tinsel]

it show up as this now

[keen vapor]

The trusty alt f4

[kindred tinsel]

@vapid lake thanks bro

[swift mango]

Just ignore that gear for now

[keen vapor]

He only needs to reroll attack % again

[quasi prism]

Nah, just keep rerolling for atk, ele dmg, and ammo

[strong hull]

Say bye bye to 11% def

I think cs still ok

[tulip quest]

They get buffed, after few sec so kill them before they do or only machine gun can damage them HAVING 100HIT damage basically hit them x100 KILL THEM before they get buffed

[tulip quest]

Eeeee I did clear about 35% or more when I was malding, did gave me ganglion cyst tho

For Noah Defence or Cs are good enuf

Atk Ele are mostly for pve or when U want taunter to get hit by S.Anis burst

[brazen ledge]

You got a cyst from malding ?

(Im starting to feel the drawbacks of micro firing multiple hours a day)

[tulip quest]

part of that not all but big part ya

[brazen ledge]

But I’m at 37% deficit atm

Not easy, but doable

[tulip quest]

lol im too lazy to push

When it gets smaller i push when it hurts

i stop

[brazen ledge]

Im stopping, got gold frame 5 with that, that’s enough for me

1 more won’t make any difference now

[brazen ledge]

Go see a doctor ???

[tulip quest]

nah small 1, when you use it less becomes smaller

when you mald like crazy it slowly becomes bigger just a reminder not to play too much

otherwise no one's stopping me to waste too much time

[brazen ledge]

As a f2p I won’t ever get gold frame 6 anyways

So I’ll stop there

[tulip quest]

NIGHTS

I SLEEP

[random tundra]

@final wedge wake up

[final wedge]

Yea dw...using 2nd set now

If he hits he spend gems

[dim escarp]

going to switch Naga with Xlud and Rapipi by Centi (just doing their OL rn)
Helm and Laplace got their treasure, quantum is lvl7 and Adjutant lvl5 (leveling this one to 7 currently)
Is there any way to make the team better regarding to the futur change ?

[lunar pawn]

anyone cooked any helm comps in rookie/sp arena? mine's p3

[runic spear]

need help making a SP Arena Defense

[tropic summit]

pick your poison

[lunar pawn]

what does it say there? s2 +?

[tropic summit]

T1 has anis in p2 and is still 3RL, wasted potential
T2 has naga as SG feed, ruins you against mirror scarlet (scarlet + blanc + naga feed)
T3 4RL, weak B3 (can be hard countered by several options), consider a different team altogether (gotta remove RRH)

[tropic summit]

just need s10 and stage 2 to be maxed in terms of battery

[dim escarp]

as I said naga and rapipi are going to be switch tho haha

but ty for the p1 answer

[tropic summit]

yeah as screenshot above, consider those changes (on the right), T3 you'll need to get it reviewed

[dim escarp]

alright thanks

[tropic summit]

noah + biscuit can stay, moran is kinda meh, SBS is ok but you gotta consider better options

[dim escarp]

why does moran is meh ? I did invest moran for pvp so

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[tropic summit]

scarlet eats her alive unless she's very invested (SR15, max skills)

temperance on high lvl would make also a difference

[dim escarp]

I see..

[tropic summit]

once you reach that, she can become a threat

[dim escarp]

from now I constantly top 2 since 4 month so nothing urge atm but

I'll consider to change yeah

I m going to do it anyway

[tropic summit]

la+ and helm treasured btw? helm needs s1 on lvl 10 and stage 2

[dim escarp]

this account is mostly pvp focus

[runic spear]

La+ Max, Helm just started Doll Leveling

[tropic summit]

oki thx, lets c

[lunar pawn]

what's s10

you mean s1 maxed?

[tropic summit]

probably last question, rosanna investiment? (need skill lvls and OL's)

[runic spear]

All S4 | OL 4 PC (no effect opti)

[dim escarp]

btw how did you take a screen so wide lmao

[lunar pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/large-putin-gif-18014173

[runic spear]

that was done with Photoshop, but really if you're on PC you just go Windowed → Horizontal → 21:9

[dim escarp]

ohhh I could photoshop too lol

ty

[runic spear]

from there though you can just Win + Shift + S to use the snipping tool to pull what you want

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc rh xmaiden jackal
noise centi cind sbs rumani
noah biscuit rapu s.anis la+

cubes

quantum on centi, jackal
vigor on noise, biscuit, rapu, blanc
resil on s.anis
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest lvl cube

notes: once HelmT is ready, can promote cindy team into 2RL
considerations: can decide to invest into rosanna to turn T1 into higher threat with more pressure on attackers/p1, needs heavy investiment (7/10/10, max doll, 4 OLs on 30-40%atk, crit is extra value)

[runic spear]

all right I'll screen shot this for later considering there's only an hr till reset

gem penality is truly a pain

I will have to do a bit of investment in X Maiden and Rumani though that in itself is no issue

[tropic summit]

can consider running a padded version of the same teams until they're built, try to hit the same RL thresholds till then (3RL is generally a good target)

[dim escarp]

god like answer man @tropic summit fast and efficient

[runic spear]

this is what my current SP Def looks like...feels quite...old

maintain top 5 though

[tropic summit]

oof, yeah you better change those

t2 and t3 are kinda on the bad side, t1 is overcommited and likely skipped most of the time

[runic spear]

it has managed to keep me #2 in my bracket, all I can really ask for

[tropic summit]

opponents being bad is a good plus

maybe you're better off not changing them, else you risk enemy copying them

[runic spear]

I have someone annoying me, so they're trying to figure out my comp

[tropic summit]

they need to skip t1, noah against t3, p1 taunter defender + biscuit against t2

[dim escarp]

wait railtracer maybe you'll save me on rookie

[runic spear]

doable for sure

[dim escarp]

one sec booting

can't beat this

his cinderella stay alive whaterver I do

cuz I burst too early prob

idk

[tropic summit]

seems like a job for either 4RL emi or 4RL s.anis + crown, can you run this?

your team is on the left

check CP agaisnt them before running, ensure you're not on deficit

[dim escarp]

s.anis I don't have sadly

I started after

crown for sure

[tropic summit]

hmm

the next best option is probably RH

[dim escarp]

at reset will try with crown

I'll record any try

[tropic summit]

check with this team:

[dim escarp]

then let you know

[tropic summit]

if CP is good, hit shooting range once (you can enter and exit it, from union) then run the match (record it)

[dim escarp]

sadly rapuz is not OL

[tropic summit]

doesn't need to be, only need her to hit healing procc on crown

[dim escarp]

otherwise I can do these team

what is the website you use for this tho?

and thank you for your answer, big help

[tropic summit]

can use the pinned burst gen calculators:

#pvp-arena message

or webapp:

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[dim escarp]

Yeah I use the nikke deck

not the one you refering to everytime

it seems better

[tropic summit]

they're the same actually, i just downloaded it and use it locally

i'm using Kosmiu's version

[dim escarp]

I had big bug on nikke deck but works fine otherwise

just one time it just stoped showing me RL until I did delet everything

[swift mango]

This team of yours can't even burst

[umbral belfry]

does p1 cindy give more burst to enemy team even when attacking? or is it only defending?

[tropic summit]

on both sides

[umbral belfry]

[dim escarp]

they do it way faster buuuuuut trust you

I mean way faster than my oponent

[tropic summit]

nah blood meant you don't have a B1

4 B3, 1 B2, 0 B1

also cindy on p1 generates 1.75x extra burst gen for the enemy

[dim escarp]

whay the

I was timed out

was my offense team

changed recently

[swift mango]

It doesn't matter. In this case. Noah x1.5 and their team still 4rl.

Dude just played a no burst team and wonder why he lost

[dim escarp]

let me clip the good one

[tropic summit]

webapp actually tells you if you missing B1, that's pretty neat

[dim escarp]

that was the team, sorry I feel dumb lol

[tropic summit]

still need to move cindy from p1, you getting closer to a decent team then

[dim escarp]

alice for xp

cp

[swift mango]

Likely in this team your Noise got killed off by S.Anis too.

[dim escarp]

from what I shared sometimes the b1 get cooked

[dim escarp]

like he said

so what should I do

[tropic summit]

noise survives 3RL unless they're bricked i think 🤔

[dim escarp]

could try like that in 20 min tho

or rn

[tropic summit]

you can run any 3RL nuke, enemy is 4RL, you can absorb it with noah on 3RL

[dim escarp]

can you please give me order?

[swift mango]

Noah+Noise+Cindy+HelmT+Alice

Is your Helm even treasured?

[dim escarp]

ok let's go

[swift mango]

Rearrange like I told you

[dim escarp]

done and I record, going to share in few min

[tropic summit]

i mean you can wait reset if it's rookie anyway

don't spend gems just because you in a hurry

[dim escarp]

man I won

I did fast battle

[tropic summit]

[dim escarp]

sheeesh

OK

[swift mango]

If you won then fine. later.

[dim escarp]

let me upload this

[umbral belfry]

shoulda watched to see how it happened

[dim escarp]

ya'll godlike

love ya

[tropic summit]

if anything i'm glad the lad seems very happy

[umbral belfry]

he's popping off

[dim escarp]

big big thx

[vapid lake]

opponent running what looks like 3.5rl/4rl in rookie arena

insanity

[dim escarp]

he destroyed me with that team lmao

[tropic summit]

ye it was 4RL

[vapid lake]

such a slow team ez win

[dim escarp]

honestly guys tysm

[vapid lake]

https://tenor.com/view/my-job-here-is-done-bye-done-gif-14879937

[dim escarp]

this channel is the best fr

me trying against mr whale

[tropic summit]

should beat rank 1 aswell at this point unless you're CP gapped 🤔

[dim escarp]

le me show you

there u go

I did try few time

[keen vapor]

I am

[vapid lake]

you're not winning don't bother

[dim escarp]

(with the change I told ya)

[vapid lake]

cp gap too big

[dim escarp]

ofc I won't

wasn't the point

[tropic summit]

77 levels difference, very much CP gapped, no chance

[dim escarp]

haha yeah ofc

is the shuffle tonight btw?

or it already appened?

[vapid lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1162985219830329374.webp?size=128&animated=true

[dim escarp]

alr tysm

[summer copper]

ugh, more shuffling

[cedar orbit]

can't wait to make arena group even worse

[summer copper]

first i was top 3, last shuffle put me in top 4, where'll the next shuffle take me?

[cedar orbit]

top 11

[dim escarp]

u seriously did a lot of help tonight, big thx to you

[summer copper]

probably have to make myself stop caring about arenas

[vapid lake]

Top 1, shuffle the whales out of ur bracket its possible

[summer copper]

last shuffle added 2

[tropic summit]

i'm aiming to steal ch1 prior to reshuffle, ensures you don't have a ch1 whale most of the time...

[summer copper]

and the original whale has been whaling harder recently

2 attempts just ain't enough

[random tundra]

Otsukare.

[tropic summit]

although it's just pure RNG for the most part

[swift mango]

Damn, my 2buff Scarlet hit like an old lady without crit... Still win though.

[shell hazel]

safu

[cedar orbit]

rat hit me 10 secs before reset, servers too slow to hit back

[shell hazel]

they really need to add something to prevent last second snipers

it won't matter in the long term but you start down a bit and have to spend tries to get back to where you were

[swift mango]

You just can't hit back to a 20 sec quick battle lol...

[glad meteor]

Sniping is a feature of pvp

[shell hazel]

[cedar orbit]

make defense actually possible in the game

[summer copper]

it was possible

but then people started helping others make teams and counters

so it's really the community's own fault

[swift mango]

CP is best defense. If you don't have the CP you just lose.

A whale can random bs go with a 30% deficit gap team.

[gaunt cypress]

its your fault guys, dont teach anymore

[shell hazel]

💳 best defence

[vapid lake]

i wont be able to get this next season anymore

[keen vapor]

Guys, I forgot to snipe

[glad meteor]

innovation is limited anyway. It’ll always get to a point where both opponents know the counters and it’s a matter of timing hits unless they add new nikkes which change the meta

[vapid lake]

down to 2700 next season

[tropic summit]

you were not gonna snipe anyway

[keen vapor]

In theory snipes doesn't affect anything

[keen vapor]

[glad meteor]

All it is is calclulating RL and investing in dps / stall counters

[tropic summit]

harsh reality

[bleak latch]

man i really hate last minute attacking

he always waiting to attack at 59 eveydamn day

[swift mango]

Just know your bracket and what work best for you.

Like my bracket doesn't have Rossanna built and mostly lower level than myself.

[bleak latch]

coward

[cedar orbit]

I hate noobs using all of their attacks on 1st and not getting punished by lower ranked ppl

[vapid lake]

https://cdn.betterttv.net/emote/5dd1e881e579cd5efad75f46/2x.webp

[tropic summit]

if it's people who never got ch1 in their entire nikke account lifetime, it's still ok

the people you should've a problem with is those that can get ch1 every single season

[cedar orbit]

I'm the furthest in hard campaign, also highest lvl, I deserve ch1

[swift mango]

@lunar dirge

[wicked horizon]

Bleh, not even 11th place, why bother...

[umbral belfry]

yummy yummy yummy

[wicked horizon]

When are they reshuffling the arena?

[tropic summit]

ye but every season? surely some poor lad wants to at least experience it once

or at least i can understand their "goal" of at least getting it once, if anything

[swift mango]

Wait still a wild 60 level gapped whale Isekai into your bracket 2 week later.

[gaunt cypress]

yeah this one, no one attacking this mfs and getting easy reward with no effort even basic knowledge from pvp , smh...

[cedar orbit]

there was one like a year ago, he quit the game, but I was the only person who attacked him, so I had to take his dead body to the lower ranks myself

[lunar dirge]

[umbral belfry]

tomorrow's new sp arena is the last one before reshuffle i think

and rookie's last is this one?

[wicked horizon]

Oh, what a coincidence.

[umbral belfry]

maybe now i can build an actual rookie team lmao

[wicked horizon]

Can't be worse than the previous SPA. Hopefully gonna be better than this one too.

[swift mango]

The only time I saw a whale quitted in my bracket was when 2 months into the game.

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[umbral belfry]

thanks venom

[tropic summit]

that's a red flag if i saw any

[lone sequoia]

i remember one guy asking 2 days ago if he should spend gems to get top10, did he get it?

[wicked horizon]

No

[wicked horizon]

wdym

[tropic summit]

because one of the most important lessons in life is: it will always get worse

[wicked horizon]

No, actually, my server was the newest server out of all the servers merged for the arena.

[tropic summit]

reshuffle should be renamed into whale isekaing event

[lone sequoia]

ff

[umbral belfry]

my first reshuffle and i get moved down to diamond

[wicked horizon]

So everyone else had more time played, which was hardly fair.

[lone sequoia]

remember that people quit the game and only whales-casuals or competitive players remains

[wicked horizon]

Currently in the newest 1/3 of servers, so it's about average, but could be better.

[lone sequoia]

every reshuffle get active accounts in a new bracket A, B, C depending in range

[swift mango]

Idk man, even the big whale in my bracket was 30 server earlier than me.

[bleak shale]

my reshuffles aside from the very first one they did hasnt done much

[unkempt kestrel]

Top 10 for the first time

[bleak shale]

when can we get a full shuffle so other people can fight my whales instead of me

[gaunt cypress]

so if i not active 1week before reshuffle , will I be moved to another less active bracket ?

[cedar orbit]

right now my SP Arena is dead. I'm sitting at 1st, checking special arena 20 times a day. There is a clown sitting on 3rd, he lacks some knowledge and takes like 10 tries to realise that he can't run unprotected P1 against Helm+XMaiden, but he has like a 60% attack OL Scarlet, so he insta wins an attack of his choice. We have clown jr on 6th who instead of fighting for 3rd place, he hits into 3rd and runs an attempt into me, losing 90% of the time, he also pushed story early via a max core 2B, but he refuses to buy stamina from event shops, so he is missing 25 lvls. The thing is, if these clowns attacked anyone else but me and eachother, maybe they both would be able to get 3000 gems/2 weeks.

[umbral belfry]

clown jr 😭

[lone sequoia]

that is what people used to believe, i don't if that still happen, could be that SU send you to the same bracket as a dead spot

[bleak shale]

do the science and find out how it works for us

[lone sequoia]

but 1week resources are better than a bit more gems from sp rewards

[wicked horizon]

I see no logical reason they would send you to a different bracket.

[cedar orbit]

don't you have to skip the entire 2 weeks a season lasts to be taken out?

[wicked horizon]

You're together with your server.

[swift mango]

How about not open arena for a week?

[wicked horizon]

If your server becomes less active, they'll put more servers into a single bracket.

But I don't see there existing an "inactive bracket", since you're with your server.

[cedar orbit]

imagine starting after Emilia, then the game suddenly starts to match you into players who own her

[lone sequoia]

active account, everything works the same

[wicked horizon]

Literally me, execpt I started during Emilia, so I've had this forever.

[tropic summit]

put yourself in their pants, if you were lower and wanted a challange, would you fight opponents you can easily defeat or aim for the top? I don't think those ppl want gems...

[swift mango]

I saw one guy came and complained 10 whales got to his bracket last reshuffle. Turned out his old bracket was full of level bricked people and no whale was even there.

[cedar orbit]

All of us cares about gems, wouldn't use their attacks otherwise. I'm sure this is just the free 4 tokens we got

[tropic summit]

exact example of someone who clearly isn't doing that for gems

that's ego

[covert lintel]

they are just reshuffle between 2 brackets after all
not based on average level

[swift mango]

If we care about gem that much, just buy the monthly and leave Sp Arena alone.

[shell hazel]

what did you wind up getting in the end Torn?

[bleak shale]

if i was lower i would be smart enough to buy core dust packages and cp gap win

[cedar orbit]

I woke up 1 hour early just because I knew he would hit me

[bleak shale]

instead of ticket

[tropic summit]

as a dolphin you mean?

yeah that'd be efficient

[wicked horizon]

scammed, that's what

[umbral belfry]

they're driven by ego not gems

[shell hazel]

where did it end up? I don't think I saw you say

[bleak shale]

if mean i asume the whales are buying the package with or without pvp and wont need to fight regardless

[tropic summit]

you're losing a different kind of game there, but i won't judge.

arena shouldn't dictate your sleeping/life schedule

[wicked horizon]

My Blanc missed her indom so I sat in Diamond 2 for the last 10 hours or so.

[shell hazel]

my RH SR doll went from 10 - 15 on blue materials before 11!

[wicked horizon]

I got 12th place. =|

[cedar orbit]

I've lost control a long time ago

[wicked horizon]

So I lost both my gems and my rank.

[shell hazel]

unlucky sir

[tropic summit]

amen brother, just don't let it get too bad

[wicked horizon]

Treasure Helm soon™️

If I don't get unlucky with the doll rolls.

[cedar orbit]

not bad enough for me to buy an attempt

[shell hazel]

i'm going to see if I can get cindy to SR-15 next from SR-10 then I guess I'll consider what dolls to do next

[tropic summit]

oh that's already a good sign then

[shell hazel]

maybe SBS/Alice for longer term dps but it's hard to spread investments on dolls

[umbral belfry]

must be nice having a helm

[shell hazel]

gold mileage 😄

[tropic summit]

you've her too, just go to bed, sleep and dream about her

[umbral belfry]

I'm saving my gold tix for collab and pilgrims but man I'm tempted

[umbral belfry]

[wicked horizon]

Well, Helm's been on my wishlist since the start because... what other Elysion unit?

[swift mango]

[wicked horizon]

Still only 1 Helm, gotta silver mileage twice.

[cedar orbit]

stuck on S2 Helm, because Shift Up doesn't let me exchange treasure pieces of units they intentionally made bad

[umbral belfry]

i swear I got every other elysion unit but her

[tropic summit]

@umbral belfry #gacha-rolls message

🏃‍♂️ ☁️

[wicked horizon]

The wishlist is a fickle mistress.

[umbral belfry]

my gold tix, i must stay strong

[shell hazel]

tbh I'd save and see if you get her whilst you're pulling for collab etc

[tropic summit]

yeah that has to be one of the dumbest systems

[shell hazel]

also you need 160 fav item materials to max treasure

[cedar orbit]

show me jank defense teams that win

[shell hazel]

so you can also use that as a sort of benchmark for when you may want to hit the trigger

[swift mango]

Just wait one month. Easy

[umbral belfry]

I doubt I'm pulling for collab unless they put the first collab's units too

I'm just sitting at 1k tix waiting

[wicked horizon]

I'm not pulling for collab unless they got a broken PvP unit or they're English-voiced this time around.

[shell hazel]

I think they just may do

also we haven't seen the kits for the others so wait and see approach we should see soon

[umbral belfry]

well don't jinx it

[bleak shale]

u dont want to treasure ur milk?

[wicked horizon]

Milk's such a good character.

[umbral belfry]

nice number

[bleak shale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003718778258980944/1329481540807168093/C.png?ex=67acc6ab&is=67ab752b&hm=84ae63eade061e5a68a617284033b1dc86ecae26d74e59aca805bbbd060cb7aa&

[swift mango]

No strawberry for you for 420 years.

[cedar orbit]

you can run Milk with Dorothy to help out her CDR

[bleak shale]

or hear me out, i can run neither in a non water weak sr

[shell hazel]

should just let you swap if you have more than the max required for treasure

so anything above 160 should be swappable

[keen vapor]

Where's Spanish dub

[wicked horizon]

Spanish?

[keen vapor]

I want to treasure Miranda

[shell hazel]

they didn't eng voice them last time?

so what do people with eng audio get when they use them? just nothing?

[wicked horizon]

Nope. English got the Japanese voices.

[keen vapor]

Is an anime after all, is normal for it to get JP dub

[shell hazel]

kinda wild

they did get an eng dub for the anime though lol

[keen vapor]

Again, where's Spanish dub

[wicked horizon]

What's with you and Spanish?

[keen vapor]

I'm Mexican

[wicked horizon]

Well I'm never gonna get anything international dubbed into my language.

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

There's one thing though

[cedar orbit]

Shouldn't you be speaking Mexican then?

[keen vapor]

No me gusta ser grosero honestamente

[keen vapor]

[strange linden]

finally have THelm, what team should I use with her in SP Arena? this is my roster

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[strange linden]

oh shiet, can't change it today anyway lol

[tropic summit]

btw:
helm s1 on lvl 10 and reached stage 2?
laplace treasured?

[strange linden]

that's the teams I was using I believe

[strange linden]

yeah she's 10/10/10 and phase 2, phase 3 won't come before a while (76/110)

[tropic summit]

not bad teams as is, we can improve cindy team most likely

[keen vapor]

Observa

[tropic summit]

oh that's all we need, looks good

[strange linden]

cindy team has the highest CP and 2RL btw

[keen vapor]

Wait, I just checked that quote is not there

[tropic summit]

although it's still the language of the gods

[vapid lake]

The extent of my understanding of spanish comes from RE4

[keen vapor]

Detrás de ti

[vapid lake]

imbecil

[keen vapor]

é

[tropic summit]

yeah it is, but you've anis in p2, which doubles down as the single b2

it's like having a castle, but the fundations are built on wood

[vapid lake]

Surely u're as big of an enthusiast as i am i've never met a spanish guy who doesn't like this game

[tropic summit]

solid 10/10, FORESTEROOOOOO

[keen vapor]

I played Dead Space first so

[bleak shale]

Miranda only needs treasure 2 anyways

Unless ur desperate for that SMG supporter selfish ATK up

[keen vapor]

Why stop when we have all the time in the world

[bleak shale]

Cuz I have Drake to treasure

[keen vapor]

Better is better

[bleak shale]

[keen vapor]

Mine is lb1

[bleak shale]

Buy another body from black ticket ez

[leaden gull]

What are 3 good general use def teams for SP? I have every pvp nikke other than xanne and nier/chainsaw man
Laplace and Helm are my 2 treasured units

[keen vapor]

I honestly want to reset SG team

[tropic summit]

these are what i'd do

1. anis and rumani are interchangable (anis moved from p2 to safer p4)
2. emilia and laplace aswell, beware that scarlet although needs to be either 1st or 2nd highest atk% (OL's included)
3. noise is better off in cindy team to boost her nuke, T3 already has rapu as sustain and revive (you were bursting with noise instead, which does not revive)

[bleak shale]

i want to reset alot of teams, including my doro for the 3rd time before my sg team goes

[strange linden]

thx, I'll put that tomorrow

[dim escarp]

I'm going to be more active here

[dim escarp]

Man I got so much meme from my union lol

[keen vapor]

With Helm treasure I rather give personalized option, post your box

[dim escarp]

btw helm s1 lvl9 is how much burst gen ?

[tropic summit]

i want to see Echo's cooking with helm actually, don't think i've seen one yet

[kindred tinsel]

[keen vapor]

Something close to this

[dim escarp]

That's her max bg

[leaden gull]

Helm has treasure at lvl 2 atm

[keen vapor]

And skill 9 is almost max

[dim escarp]

but anyway she's going to be max in 1/2 week so

[dim escarp]

Indeed man

[bleak shale]

subtract the difference and multiply by shots

[brazen ledge]

How’s helm s1 lvl4 + s2?

[leaden gull]

If you don’t see a unit it’s just because they’re not invested in at all

[bleak shale]

                          (on sheet)  + (Skill level diff) * (scaling) * (rl shot)

Example skill 7
   39.82 + (7-10) * 0.65 * 2
   =39.82 + (-3) * 0.65 * 2
   =39.82 + (-3.9)
   =35.92 ```

[dim escarp]

oh I see it now

thx math

[bleak shale]

also this

or add an extra instance of helm's base gen to helm s1 lvl 4

[dim escarp]

Didn't know crown was that big

fr

[bleak shale]

the morning i woke up and read crown treasure

[shell hazel]

helm skill 1 should get to 8 tomorrow

[dim escarp]

Same

[steady patio]

trying to make less terrible pvp teams at my level that aren't just auto teams, any advice? i'm aware that noah+blanc is a tried and true combo, just not how to build out the rest of the teams with what i have

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[tropic summit]

rookie: sbs noah rh anis rrh

sp arena:

noah sbs bay rh neon
naga liter privaty anis n102
auto team

wishlist: biscuit, jackal, centi, rumani, rapunzel, noise, cindy, scarlet

get teams reviewed once either of the first 5 are found

[leaden gull]

@tropic summit Could you give me a hand with mine here?

[tropic summit]

oh echo didn't cook in the end

[tropic summit]

so skill 1 lvl 10 and phase 2 treasure helm?
is laplace treasured?

[eager mountain]

got la+ now, might as well waiting for eva news before i get a new def setup

[tropic summit]

revealing her too early might be detrimental, keep her for the rainy days that def doesn't hold

[vapid lake]

should have eva news starting tomorrow

if next update is collab

[eager mountain]

whether it hold or not is pure rng now and i like it

[tropic summit]

oh right your rosanna crits

gonna have ppl playing gacha on attacking you

[eager mountain]

new upd is collab unless they delay it, if they have another 2 wk event then it'll be march, when they said its feb

[eager mountain]

honestly i think its both that and that guy running some instable indom atk, so like random crits would cause him getting the wrong indom

but thats also weird since he obviously knows what hes doing

[steady patio]

Will do, huge thanks

[shell hazel]

gotta imagine next up we get collab

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc rh xmaiden jackal
naga centi cind emi liter
noah biscuit rapu s.anis la+ (assuming laplace is treasured, else replace with SBS)

cubes

quantum on jackal, centi
vigor on blanc, biscuit, rapu
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis, s.anis must've burst lvl 9, no ammo OL's
other nikke run highest lvl cube available

notes: finish helmT (s1 lvl 10, stage 2), invest in noise to reduce feed (liter) and slightly better buff for cindy nuke
notes2: invest noise, emi, rumani, blanc, scarlet
notes3: consider rosanna 7/10/10 SR15 30-40%atk on the very long term

[eager mountain]

hi doro

[leaden gull]

Yup Laplace is treasured
SAnis does have Burst lvl 9
Helm is currently s1 lvl 7 stage 2

Skill wise Scarlet is 10/4/10, would you suggest just better OL lines or also putting into s2

[tropic summit]

i'm personally running scarlet 10/10/10, the s2 is the least needed skill but may help on counter extra dmg

[tropic summit]

good on s.anis, helm is essentially almost usable

your main issue is gonna be getting noise to fit, keep liter for the time being

[leaden gull]

I might have enough atm to get her s1 to level 10 today tbh

[shell hazel]

I need more books

https://tenor.com/view/ascendence-of-a-bookworm-bookworm-anime-bookworm-main-anime-main-gif-25431751

[leaden gull]

K my biggest problem is I have quantum 5

[tropic summit]

oh wow, if that's the case you could use this transitory team

[leaden gull]

I have enough currency to get to quantum 6 straight away but will need one more union raid before quantum 7

[tropic summit]

yep you need lvl 7

although you can at least hit 2.5RL

that's enough to bypass noah on 3RL

although it might not be lethal, as noah can block the second part of the nuke dmg

[keen vapor]

Centi will need SR5 doll to survive tho

I finally eat

[leaden gull]

I can do that

Now I just need to learn matchups for attacks 😂

[shell hazel]

ugh I need to level up dolls for all the pvp units it's going to be painful

[tropic summit]

you see SG/AR/MG/SMG, you use 3RL scarlet
you see nuke oriented 3RL? you use noah 3RL
you see emilia on 3RL? you use noah on 4RL
anything else that is 4RL? if it has feed, scarlet, if it doesn't, cindy on 2RL or 3RL (ideally at least 1 buff)

[eager mountain]

mostly just carries and p1 and maybe p2

[valid fern]

does laplaceT require a specific phase for the gen boost?

[eager mountain]

no

[valid fern]

cool

[keen vapor]

well, it increases further at phase 2

[tropic summit]

12AM, time to hit the sack, tomorrow i'm gonna smartwork cuz my throat aches, damn colleagues infected me

better not be flu

[eager mountain]

hotwater helps

[tropic summit]

yeah eating also some clementine and took some honey

hopefully they do their magic

[shell hazel]

on the upside

if you're sick, you don't have to work at all

day off sick!

[tropic summit]

nah i'll still work, just less (from home), probably will from the bed

[vapid lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1162985219830329374.webp?size=128&animated=true

||this does not help me because i don't have scarlet||

[leaden gull]

Ty for all the help @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

you quite welcome, good huntin'

[brazen ledge]

You have nukers right ?

Even ein maybe ? Cinderella ?

[shell hazel]

will bear in mind, I have only limited things I can use and main campaign team aren't dolled to the max yet either 😦

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/freindo-kevin-theoffice-kevin-the-office-ate-too-much-gif-13442938

SGs and she dead

[drifting schooner]

question, does reverse element get damage penalty? for example if i use water units to atk electric

[raven plover]

no

[drifting schooner]

thx

[keen vapor]

Only if you're on Anomaly Interception... And PVP as well

[glacial hound]

has anyone noticed if arena chips (the red thing that determines placement) cap now? theres a guy who claims he was C1 the entire season (no one attacked him) but ended C3 in placement

[keen vapor]

They don't cap

[half grail]

Do you need only to level up Helms fav item one time?

[brazen ledge]

It doesn’t change anything for him anyways

[keen vapor]

He better proofs that he wasn't attacked

[brazen ledge]

Get her item to lvl 3 its best

[keen vapor]

I'm maxing it

[half grail]

For PvP?

[brazen ledge]

Can be useful sometimes

[keen vapor]

Like, what reason you'll have to stop

[brazen ledge]

Against jackal it’s fun

Like : BOOM

[half grail]

Alrighty ty

[raven plover]

ask him to send battle history

livestream it

[hazy shore]

Hello its been a while and I'm still in the top 5 of sp arena but I struggle with the whale and 2 teamers in my bracket

teams are: blanc/rh/noir/biscuit/jackal
noah/noise/cinderella/centi/xmaiden
third team cp pad (asking for recommendations)
and new teams

I got resillience, quantum, bastion, vigor cubes all at level 7

• still no rapunzel no scarlet. thx

[eager mountain]

oh my, quency helm keeps giving only atk lines

[shell hazel]

you're not much above my sync, when did you start?

I'm still trying to get Bastion + Resi to 7 let alone having quantum and vigor anywhere near 😄

[copper creek]

their electric unit gets elemental damage to ur water (electric-weak) unit

your water units will not deal less dmg

[hazy shore]

eva collab but ive been on and off. my union carries me hard

[shell hazel]

I was quite surprised no one has taken top 5 off you then as that is august, was just wondering how many more cycles of union raid you had lol

[celest pulsar]

Sorry to keep on asking questions but who should I replace with Helm now that I have her treasure?

[dim escarp]

wow he did try

thank again

[raven plover]

chef blood cooking

[swift mango]

Replace Scarlet with S.Sakura in Jackal team.

You lose the counter but that's that

[dim escarp]

thank to @tropic summit too, you gave many tips that I won't forget

[swift mango]

Yeah, thanks Rail more, I only rearranged your team.

[dim escarp]

y'all are godlike for real

was confortable in sp Arena but always top 2 in rookie before the change

there was few big win but Mikal always adapted the next day

you guys fixed it in one team suggestions

which is crazy and tells a lot about my lack of experience in pvp even if this account is mostly pvp oriented

[graceful grotto]

my SPA ranked shows i'm ranked 2, but rewards i got rank 4

whyyyyyyy 😦

hahaha, being sniped?

[swift mango]

Well, it count overall points. You should have spent most of this season in lower rank rather than C2.

Contemplating between lv10 my Rossanna s2 and lv8+ my Helm s1 first.

[graceful grotto]

arh welp

guess i should start sniping earlier kewk

made a mistake of not swapping my cube back after raid and ended up fail attacks

[graceful grotto]

why lvl8?

lvl10 no?

[autumn owl]

Guys one question

[keen vapor]

Go on

[autumn owl]

I was wondering why if I was in the top 15th all the two weeks till the reset(so arena) why when is reward time I get a lower rank and lower gems?

[keen vapor]

To put a simple example ...

[keen vapor]

Let's say I was the 16th in rank

But I was getting challenger 10/9 positions occasionally

In the end, I didn't managed to get in top 10 but 15, you get out of 15 as a trade off

That's how it happened

[autumn owl]

But why? No matter if I rank up cuz at the end will I have a lower rank? That have no sense

[keen vapor]

Point is, others did go to higher positions than you, more than the 4 in your same rank

It makes total sense

Others try harder

[autumn owl]

But if I keep my rank and try to increase it and defend it , why does someone else who was in a lower rank than at the end get a higher rank than me, if he never was able to steal my position ?

[keen vapor]

Are you aware of the red tokens?

[fast harness]

It's not about stealing your specific position, if someone below you spent enough time above you to get more points, then they will rank higher

[autumn owl]

About the gems also

[autumn owl]

But how do I get that points ? If I do all my attacks and keep my rank and once in a while I rank up to 15-11 , what else do I need to do to keep my rank at the end of the weeks

[fast harness]

You get the points passively depending on your rank, higher rank more points, if your opponents are moving into higher positions you need to do the same, either take their spots or move yourself even higher

[autumn owl]

I do, but well it's kinda sad but thanks for your help

I'm going to leave to try to improve my rank, it is really hard and no matter what I will get a lower rank

[fast harness]

Yea best you can do is be more proactive, try to see who's moving up a lot so you know who you need to pay attention to

[autumn owl]

Okis ty so much dude

[swift mango]

Because she's 7 currently

[hazy shore]

Could anyone kindly cook for me? I feel that next bracket would threaten my position badly

[swift mango]

Type down your RL with more than 9% Charge speed. And their charge speed.

[hazy shore]

do I remove the 1 cs roll on noah?

does it matter to any other rl or just taunt units?

[swift mango]

No, unless your Noise has zero and you need to use them together with Noah p1

[swift mango]

Any RL. And RH CS as well...

[hazy shore]

oh then no problem on that. I don't have any cs rolls above 9% except alice

[swift mango]

How much is your Noise CS?

[hazy shore]

0

[swift mango]

That's a problem. You won't be able to use Noah+Noise without giving enemy p1+2 RL more burst gen.

Could use Noise+Noah instead if you have Rapu.

Or you could solve it with either adding 1 CS line to Noise or roll off CS on Noah.

[hazy shore]

ohk this seems easier then whats my lineup gonna be when I do this

[keen vapor]

I got one charge speed

[hazy shore]

my glorious savior

pvp now is tough, just rock paper scissors and whoever is more active

[keen vapor]

Pistol is the CP pad option that whales can use

[swift mango]

So what did you do? With your Noah CS problem? Unchanged? Or?

[hazy shore]

the top 1 in my bracket only has that privilege thats why

[hazy shore]

no more cs with noah then 1 cs rol on noise

[swift mango]

No need for both...

Just need either.

Do both is a waste

[keen vapor]

There's 4 of them in my bracket now, it will be 9 if the old ones come back

[swift mango]

Don't

[hazy shore]

ah it does not concern me much, ive been hoarding hard

[keen vapor]

I don't have control over shuffles

[swift mango]

I mean just don't

[keen vapor]

[hazy shore]

oh wdym

[swift mango]

Ideally I would want 15% CS on both of them.

[keen vapor]

Pog

[hazy shore]

oh you shoulda said so then no problem

[swift mango]

I mean, if they both have 0% CS then you could use both Noise+Noah and Noah+Noise variant.

If one have more than another that CS cube can't fix then you could only use one variant.

[hazy shore]

i see does it affect burst gen the more cs you have?

I'll just have 0 on both

[swift mango]

You burst faster.

You often want around 15% on Clip RL

So you have 2.5RL teams.

[hazy shore]

does quantum cube 7 solve this

[swift mango]

No

[hazy shore]

I do have a problem where noah isn't doing her job with that team

is cs just the case

[swift mango]

2.5RL team has advantage over 3RL team in that your B3 burst before their B2. So 2.5rl Scarlet could kill 3rl Noah for example.

[hazy shore]

okay, just somehow my bracket does not use scarlet but they still thrive

do you have a third team to use when blanc biscuit noah noise is occupied in the other two?

[swift mango]

Your bracket is still young. Investment on Charge speed only becoming apparent in older bracket. You should be fine without.

[hazy shore]

Yeah I really can beat anyone with those teams its just that they can use paper on my rock and easily deal with my third team

[swift mango]

People often advising on rolling off CS on Noise and Noah but it's counter intuitive to me who roll for CS. You only need to make their CS even. Noise have more CS is also no problem if you want to keep it for now.

[hazy shore]

oh thats fine I'll try to have my cs high when that starts to become a problem

[swift mango]

You sure others in your bracket doesn't have scarlet?

[hazy shore]

Yes yes yes 100%

not even scarlet black shadow

my bracket's routine is just shuffling between 2-5

[swift mango]

To which unit you have OL on?

[hazy shore]

everyone on the first pic have atleast 3 ol

[limber patrol]

will Red Hood burst B1 once only?.

how does Red Hood burst work on pvp?

[hazy shore]

if redhood is first she will do all burst 1 2 and 3. if someone is before her then that burst will be prioritized

[limber patrol]

can I put Noah p1, Cinderella p2 and RH P3?

[hazy shore]

if you put it that way, rh will burst 1, noah will burst 2, cindy will burst 3

[limber patrol]

or something like this

will Cinderella feed the enemy on p2?

[hazy shore]

yes its most advisable to put her p3 or p4