pvp-arena

[tulip quest]

Even skyjlv is 549 level

and he is whale

681 is just insane

[tender valve]

don't worry you're not alone

https://tenor.com/view/friends-gif-21470334

[upper grove]

afaik this was keripo's xmica

[quartz prawn]

When his one unit has almost double the cp of ur entire team 😔

[upper grove]

I think he can just put in a mass produced unit on each team and win

[spiral onyx]

Probably

[upper grove]

what's your sync cap with all units MLB?

[tender valve]

3 years annive nikke level 1000

[spiral onyx]

Mine is 836 cause I skipped MLBing a couple units. If I did, should be 84x. If you bricked your account and went for MLBing all libration units, your max would be 85x

[upper grove]

I totally forgot about that MLB liberation units uses cube mats

[limber rampart]

bro have no enemies

[jagged sedge]

Finally defended against this guy. Hes been taking my spot forever.

[tulip quest]

Wait whats Keripo gonna use Xmica for?

[swift mango]

Let everyone on this chat join @upper grove bracket and kick him out of top 20.

[keen vapor]

Nothing

[tulip quest]

okay

[crystal flicker]

that's pretty weak bracket ngl

[swift mango]

Probably used more than your xMica.

[swift mango]

That whale double CP rank 4 so should be at least 80+ level gapped.

[crystal flicker]

yeah, the whale unbeatable

the rest up to contest

This mf tryin to cp gap me lmao

K I win that one, but lose to Cindy comp

[swift mango]

22% deficit win, pretty good.

[crystal flicker]

3 MG vs Scarlet Jackal, obvious

[swift mango]

If those were SG it would be harder.

Divination is told, your current bracket will remain peaceful after reshuffle.

But only you, will get isekai'ed into another bracket with 10 whales that are all 69+ lv above you.

[tulip quest]

stoppp Nandeee

[spiral onyx]

It's +5 levels per new unit I think, so we'd need 30 new units before then. Maybe but would be wild, that's like 1 new unit every 2 weeks

[tulip quest]

But the Limited Chara forever gone sadge me late player

Bye permanent levels forever

[spiral onyx]

Unless you've been hard swiping for core dust boxes since you started playing, the level cap is irrelevant to you lol

[tulip quest]

yea I guess

by estimation

[spiral onyx]

I only stopped buying core dust around November last year and I've been playing since launch

I have enough core dust boxes atm for +20 levels, but I'm only 4 levels from my cap

[tender valve]

Your fans hope to see you in the Champions Arena final

https://tenor.com/view/friends-gif-21470334

[spiral onyx]

Tbh that'll really depend on the format of Champion Arena

Specifically:

• Is it's unlimited attempts or limited attempts
• Is it synchro locked or free synchro
• Is it 3/5 wins or 4/5 wins
• Does more wins grant more points or not
• Are attacking/defending teams shown in battle log history or not

They could easily implement a dumb system like synchro locked at lvl 200 with 3/5 wins and unlimited attempts with no battle logs. In a system like that, literally anyone could become rank 1

[umbral crown]

@keen vapor some people have sus names

[lunar dirge]

what if the amount of wins and the amount of points opponent has applies to the amount of said amount of points you get ?

[spiral onyx]

If it's unlimited attempts, even this would be meaningless. You just swipe endlessly for +1 points with an easy 3 win team setup that is impossible to defend against

[lunar dirge]

Ain't no way they're doing it

Both rookie and champ has limits

[spiral onyx]

Lemme be very clear here. With the current roster of units available right now, if we are level synched and the win condition is 3/5 wins and there's no bonus from 4/5 or 5/5 wins, then defence is useless, just like it is in SP Arena, assuming equal investment and knowledge

[lunar dirge]

true

[spiral onyx]

You can investment gap and knowledge gap people, but only to a certain extent

Investment gap is highly dependent on synchro level

Due to different scalings of different investment sources (cores, cubes, dolls, gear, OL, recycling)

There's just so many variables involved that it's impossible to make any guarantees atm for predicted winners

I've been cooking for over a year now and the best 5 team comp I have is very solid atm (especially with the addition of Helm+ and Mana) but is still not strong enough to beat your standard SAnis and Scarlet-Jackal teams. Then it becomes a knowledge test for the attacker to creatively build a 3rd team for a 3/5 win.

[lunar dirge]

I'm sure 4/5 wins will actually be fair for a defender

[tender valve]

maybe

[spiral onyx]

4/5? Good luck, I have high confidence in my cook. But 3/5, gg when the attacker has 2 almost guarantee win teams and just have to cook one more team using the huge roster of available choices

[spiral onyx]

This is the old system, anything can last minute change

Once upon a time, rocks were in the UR token exchange shop for example, until the patch UR was introduced

[lunar dirge]

wait, really?

[keen vapor]

[spiral onyx]

At least rocks are no longer an issue now, but for the longest time they were the bottleneck

[lunar dirge]

I want it back already although I never was there during those timed

[spiral onyx]

It was never active

They last minute changed it right before UR1

[tender valve]

https://tenor.com/view/sora-cooking-food-wars-shokugeki-no-soma-fire-gif-17443420

[lunar dirge]

Oh the cruelty

[spiral onyx]

Yes, it was quite a sad day

But my point is anything could change last minute, so don't count on anything, including me. But that shouldn't stop people from cooking regardless in prep for various different possibilities.

Prepping for the wrong thing is still better than no prep at all

[lunar dirge]

Already did

🫡

[swift mango]

Just level up to 341 and checked the 75 lv gap whale... His 2nd strongest team is now with Full OL lol. So 750k and my campaign team 600k

Really need to upgrade my biscuit CP...

[tender valve]

https://tenor.com/view/nichijou-anime-handshake-bros-shake-hands-gif-12270042

[modest summit]

how do i learn how to make teams?

[swift mango]

Tried 29% deficit Red hood and it didn't work out. Gonna do Cindy wipe tomorrow with higher CP.

[tender valve]

can chek pin

[swift mango]

Darn I should tried my 25% deficit Red hood buff Cindy wipe since the begin... No way 30% deficit Red hood would work...

Unless I add Blanc and make it 35-40% deficit.

That's even worse.

Low CP biscuit is useless...

Red without protection also useless.

Oh well, tomorrow then.

Would be much easier if he didn't have Naga

[glad meteor]

Does anyone invest frima

[bleak shale]

there was a true damage coper

[lunar dirge]

True damage pilgrim in 2030 trust

[glad meteor]

Noah centi cindy frima helmt

Is 2RL

[bleak shale]

they even had flora+clay invested iirc

[tropic summit]

noise centi cind alice rumani
scarlet blanc liter xmaiden jackal
sbs ein rrh pmaid grave (cp padded temp team)

cubes

quantum on rumani, centi, jackal
vigor on blanc, noise

wishlist/build : check attached table for priority, 1 is higher priority than 2
wishlist : noah, biscuit, rapunzel, consider getting helmT asap, these double down as priority 1 to invest toward

[swift mango]

What does frima do in this team?

[glad meteor]

Budget noise

[tropic summit]

buffs cindy nuke decently 🤔

also since you don't need to worry about her taunting allows to be used in p2 p3 p4 and not just ideal p1 or p5

[glad meteor]

I think noise taunt prio is good though. Take some damage off of p1 noah

[tropic summit]

i don't like using noah with cindy tho, feels like a waste

[glad meteor]

Which b2 better. I think it’s either bay or noah

[tropic summit]

i assume enemy will waste noah on cindy anyway, so my own noah would be just mirroring

[glad meteor]

Or else get insta nuked or need blanc cindy. Unless invested in sasuga DR units

Cindy is tanky though.

You can beat indom scalter if team is invested I think

Because of cindy decoy interaction

Can punish people without helmt

I underestimated cindy auto’s. She can hit hard. Even though most of her damage comes from nuke

[tropic summit]

i'm talking about these mirrors, since my bracket loves running those though, so it might just be specific 🤔

[glad meteor]

Noah biscuit jackal in one team

[tropic summit]

it's just an example of how noah vs noah with a cindy kills her damage output

compared to running a different non nuke based B3

[glad meteor]

Second one was bad placement on enemy imo, if there laplace was higher attack. They would have better chance

[tropic summit]

since i already know a noah can probably deal with my cindy team, i prefer spreading her to a different team

[tropic summit]

yeah opponent here isn't the smartest either

although i've yet to lose a noah + noah cindy vs non cindy duel

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

that's just my reason for not liking running noah with cindy tho

might still not work because they're able to deal with both, even if spread

the other risk is that they just skip that team entirely

"oh, noah and cindy together? alrighty next."

[glad meteor]

Noise rumani sbs bay biscuit
Scar blanc rh emi jackal
Noah centi cindy frima helmt

This was what I was thinking

[tropic summit]

oh that'd be interesting 🤔

[shell hazel]

other than Blanc and Noah who wants temperance cube? I unlocked it yesterday but I don't use Blanc/Noir atm (uninvested mostly)

[swift mango]

Noise is already budget enough.

[coarse lake]

Blanc biscuit kills bay setup ez

Honestly even by accident when they try to emi nuke

[tropic summit]

in fact bay linking the entire team would leave p1 as the hole to deal dmg with 🤔

[glad meteor]

Just build strong biscuit

[coarse lake]

No biscuit is surviving stickied rh

[tropic summit]

but that has to be one of the best defs you can offer, it's essentially 3 teams that are nuke resistant, the second is just fast enough to force hand at least

[coarse lake]

And Bscar will die before biscuit, so Bscar prob won't even kill team in time

[glad meteor]

As for third teams go. That’s one of the best comps regardless

[swift mango]

Noah already p1 in the team so Noise could be anywhere.

[tropic summit]

you missed the point, it free's up noise to be used in another team 🤔

[swift mango]

I would rather free up someone else ..

[tropic summit]

i think you need to see it as "what's the def team that pushes it to the limit for the attacker" instead of "what's the def team that cannot lose", since in this game no def can absolutely win

in Kara's case, that's one hell of a def because it's pushing the buttons quite well

any non expert would probably struggle, at least on first attempts

[coarse lake]

Standard emi going into it is always winning if they sticky by accident

Emi lives and nukes, emi dies and rh still kills

[tropic summit]

you mean RH shooting an indom target then dying?

[glad meteor]

emi nuke beats most noah cindy comps anyway

[coarse lake]

Rh shooting biscuit until dead, then killing the rest

[tropic summit]

oh you mean against that bay team

yeah B1 + B3 RH will hurt

[swift mango]

3 x lv60 p2 3rl team if you could effort.

[tropic summit]

lv60 you mean on CP padding?

[swift mango]

I couldn't though

[swift mango]

I mean they would ded and reduce enemies team to 4rl below.

[tropic summit]

oh that's 4D chess alright

but i dunno, risk of CP padding is there

gonna need to survive autos

[swift mango]

That's why I said "if you could afford"

It's easier to do than gapping by 30%+

[coarse lake]

You also only get 4 units to burst with, limits your comp options since they can just p1 pressure and now you got 3 units to burst with

[tropic summit]

I like how Blood always thinks out of the box

that's actually possibly smart, just tricky to put in place 🤨

[swift mango]

Well, one team with biscuit and one team with Jackal.

The last team could be with Max out Moran

[tropic summit]

or if you had makima

[coarse lake]

Speed of your own teams also concern, need to be at least 3rl each

Rosa fixes one, still got 2

[swift mango]

I really wish I have her. Would trade my Emi for her even.

[swift mango]

Yeah, it's hard, there is also the fact that you need to have 3 strong wiper burst 3. So I could only do 2 team.

Solved everything else but the last b3.

[coarse lake]

I don't see a reason to run all 3 teams like that tbh, 1 or 2 is fine

Third team just make strong enough

Makes it easier to avoid cp too if you can just funnel high cp pvp units to just 1 or 2 teams

[swift mango]

Yeah.

HelmT also new threat to that strategy. Thank God only 2 guys in my bracket had her.

Maybe a whale will make 3 teams like that one day. Just to laugh at me.

[glad meteor]

Imagine a whale making 2 teams and putting level 1 unit on third team

[coarse lake]

it's a strat that ca will likely kill anyway, so don't sweat about it much

[tropic summit]

don't give them ideas

[swift mango]

It's kinda Rossana bait if only 1 team tbh. At least no one else in my bracket built her.

[shell hazel]

solo raid opens in 8 hours?

[swift mango]

Maybe I could finally have HelmT in 7 days...

[coarse lake]

you can actually make a 2rl sg comp but using noah and helm+ now..... even if p2 dies in 1 noah hit

[shell hazel]

pray for RL dolls

[coarse lake]

will be hard to stop unless your p2 sac comp is noah biscuit one

this seems busted, blocks p1 pressure, p2 is a sac unit that dies insta, guaranteed 3rl, most can't block in time to stop cindy

but you can just do this and probably win

esp since they can still lifesteal off indom

[swift mango]

Yeah, it's very bracket dependant. If your bracket is full of people with everything Arena relevance built you will be screwed...

Only a temporary solution DEF for people below synch 401, in a sweaty enough bracket, I guess.

But then again, if they have almost everything Arena relevance built then you will be screwed regardless of synch level.... Only Charge speed investment difference matter then.

Oh and 3 line OL CP, and skill level

[coarse lake]

even that might not be enough if they just run 2rl noah and 2rl blanc

since 2rl nuke with cs isn't gonna outspeed 2rl noah/blanc b2

[swift mango]

They do. 18% CS higher overall mean 0.36 RL higher, enough for A scarlet to burst before Blanc or Noah.

If you got to 25% CS higher that would be 0.5RL faster.

[coarse lake]

gap between b2 and b3 is about 0.42rl

with noah it's 0.34

so maybe can barely outspeed noah

well it's a pretty easy fix anyway, just build like a single cs line on all your units and now you're fast enough anyway

[swift mango]

0.32 and +0.06 for Noah/Blanc to apply last I checked.

So 0.38RL.

0.36RL faster should be enough.

Idk, maybe round up or down would make it not enough. Better 20% CS to be safe.

[coarse lake]

hmm... not sure if you can realistically reach it since none of the nuker b3 dps work like typical rls

2rl scar is just barely 2rl, scar not utilizing it could be enough to be a tad bit slower for example

and you won't be able to utilize the feed at 2rl since if you do, you're actually slower than them now due to travel time

[swift mango]

Nothing you can't account for with some calculation.

[swift mango]

Yeah.

[coarse lake]

cindy is the only nuker that can do this properly I think, but we also dunno exact snapshot timing

not sure scar is even insta either

[swift mango]

Travel time doesn't really matter though...

You get Burst gen as you hit. But maybe Jackal s1 gen has some delay.

[coarse lake]

you get feed at their 1rl shots

you won't get feed at their 2rl shots, bc you should have already bursted there if you plan to be faster

oh yeah they also get gen on impact, so if you get 2rl feed you're same speed

which isn't fast enough still

[swift mango]

Yeah, Ik.

[coarse lake]

eh still too expensive to be worth whatever possible benefit it could bring, plus it's a lot cheaper to counter than it is to build it, 1 good cs line on all rls is prob fine, max 2

meanwhile opponent needs 4 lines

[swift mango]

Just p2 lv60 to counter.

Building CS is meaningless when you couldn't even hit

[coarse lake]

that's cheaper yeah, but that only really applies to SP anyway, so eh, unless you actually climb tiers with it, not very impactful

well also resource cost, how much core dust is it to lvl 60 a unit

only 140, eh negligible

[swift mango]

In CA there will be P2 without any equipment or doll.

[coarse lake]

is that squishy enough to benefit much tho

[swift mango]

Depend on which synch level they put us to

[coarse lake]

nah still need to be dealing with high splash units to kill

no doll no dupe no cube no gear phantom is 207k hp at 383

my decent invest attackers with sr5 doll is about 257k ish

[swift mango]

They could put us to synch 60.

[tropic summit]

the day they release a nikke that fills burst charge on entry...

[coarse lake]

then you prob brick yourself for this strat if you've played for a long time (high console lvls)

[swift mango]

Newer player win in something finally.

[coarse lake]

also I don't think the sustain diff is that much at low lvls to prevent a 2rl hit

[coarse lake]

need nikke that cuts own hp in half or less at start of fight

doesn't even need to offer a positive in return

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

unbuilt scarlet real winners

[coarse lake]

that alone will make p2 sac teams much much more viable

if you wanna make it an actual pvp kit, make them lose 80% of their max hp at start of fight, when they die they buff team or do dmg or something, supporter clip rl (so no biscuit or xanne issues and for 1rl of gen), innately gets +20% cs at start of fight so can always provide 1rl gen

[tropic summit]

gonna need a very drunk intern to release that

[coarse lake]

if they kept with whatever direction they had when they made jackal and rosa something like this might have already happened

[tropic summit]

eh yeah

until their focus shifted too much toward SR anyway

[lusty gull]

do you like deck versus deck on nikke deck ?
i like it but i think there's a lot of improvements to do about it

[pastel owl]

d/elegg treasure to allow insta brust fill work in arena

[tropic summit]

hmm an improvement that comes to mind is that it shouldn't require necessarely to have a deck saved before composing the team, at least especially the enemy team (since it could be anything)

the GUI seems good enough on the other hand

[lusty gull]

i'm agree with you but that's not easy to find the good way to do for desktop and mobile

[tropic summit]

a minor detail perhaps that your own teams should be below, opponent on top (just to replicate layout from SP arena matchup)

[lusty gull]

i try to find a good way to create, edit deck on mobile and desktop

[tropic summit]

for PC it's pretty straight forward

but yeah can't imagine how hard it is to fit for mobile instead

[lusty gull]

yes and no, i can't know how people think, i did it like i would like

i think my next step will be to add drag and drop on pX to pX on deck page
but i hope i will find something to improve deck versus deck after that

[tropic summit]

thank you for your hard work, keep it up

[lusty gull]

i only do this when i want, that's not a work but thanks for your cheers

[tender valve]

Big thanks bro

https://tenor.com/view/anime-good-job-great-job-fantastic-otsukaresama-desu-gif-26527182

[lusty gull]

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit what would be a def team if you had absolutely all units
Even helm treasure maxed and rossana mana built

I think one of these centis are supposed to be anis

[tropic summit]

ye it is

lemme mess around with CS% tho

can probably push it further 🤔

[tropic summit]

as for rosanna variant you'd trade speed for threat on p1 or attacker/s

CS% on noah and biscuit is kinda overkill tho, while on la+ would make more sense since you'd increase her DPS

realistically speaking

T1 rosanna on 2.5RL with 2RL depending on feed
T2 on 3RL
T3 on 2RL

[fathom rock]

Hmm thanks

[tropic summit]

once i've rocks to spare i'm honestly considering jackal on 17%CS though, since my centi is already on 17%CS+

thanks to that i can get 2.5RL cindy instead of 3RL

which is enough to mess with indom and noah

(on 3RL)

[umbral belfry]

@tropic summit psttt does crown have any use in arena?

[tropic summit]

she does but mostly on attack, on very specific scenarios

[umbral belfry]

okay dok!

in the meantime I will build her up for campaign and wish my tia goodbye

[tropic summit]

one of the usage examples:

#pvp-arena message

[umbral belfry]

looks like to soak up sg dmg unless I'm mistaken?

[tropic summit]

can also be useful against emi on 3RL

[tropic summit]

that's actually biscuit, although crown works there to both slow down the team on purpose but also provided atk% buff when she gets healed

[umbral belfry]

guess I won't have to worry about that bc i joined too late for emi

okay dok! I'll build her regardless anywho. ty ty!

[tropic summit]

on attack it can work since you know when you don't fight scar/jack and when you know you can afford a slower team

on defense, it's a free scar-jack for enemy

[umbral belfry]

bc the feed?

[tropic summit]

yup, you learned

[umbral belfry]

learning in the kitchen

[tropic summit]

btw how did it end up with that guy who wanted to add you on discord? 🤔

made a friend? or just a creep?

[glad meteor]

Emi 2.0 when eva

Trust

[tropic summit]

don't give me hope now

[glad meteor]

Trust

[umbral belfry]

im too much of a weenie so i just ignored

and it's still his intro msg

[eager mountain]

eva prob wind, so emi 2.0 is just emi identical but wind code, already superior

[tropic summit]

understandable, safe choice

[umbral belfry]

please no

[eager mountain]

the very much expected choice

[eager mountain]

i'll simply pretend other players are males cuz most of them are, no good reason for them to pretend ur female or not lol

[umbral belfry]

I played enough mmos to know how this goes

[eager mountain]

🤔 because u have mic on?

[umbral belfry]

that and mostly bad experiences

[eager mountain]

well yeah having mic on does that

[strange rain]

winnable ?

[glad meteor]

I need eva meta

[eager mountain]

prob not winnable

both random pve teams but theirs higher cp better burst gen better buffs

[glad meteor]

3 meta pilgrims 140 sync

[strange rain]

i have 2 i 120 lol

[glad meteor]

Not helm+

[eager mountain]

oh right, i pretended when i see her in pvp lmfao, not even lb2
they prob still wins regardless

60+ pulls no anchor yet

but got ||qeq|| so i can use selector for bay in case i want her in CA

[strange rain]

well i won lol

i brust faster

[eager mountain]

ur p1p2 not dead yet before burst???

[strange rain]

p1 is dead

but full burst red hood

[eager mountain]

woah so low sync 5rl p2 can live since they dont have real rls, good data ig

[strange rain]

damn i can actually get to first

[eager mountain]

technically in those pve vs pve teams senario u wanna put ur bursts p3p4p5, so swap rh with liter

[strange rain]

if liter stays alive she will burst 1 i dont want her burst tbh i want rh buff and if p1 stays alive i want her burst 2 to rh burst 3 ig

tbh ein nuke kinda goes hard

when u dont have anything else to use

[desert tundra]

How much investment do I need to put into pvp units

[pseudo arch]

How is anchor looking for burst gen?

[eager mountain]

if, but thats idealized senario cuz ur team wont burst like 5 sec, prioritize being able ot burst instead of the better b1

[strange rain]

gotch

[dim escarp]

quick question, I just upgraded helm with the treasure, so her burst gen change insantly or do I need to up any skills?

[vapid lake]

Skill 1

Every level increase %

[dim escarp]

alright ty 🙏

[eager mountain]

ein is quite good, she should be around far more often in champion arena

[eager mountain]

not tested yet but technically regular rl since no add-on dmg no duel wield no clip reload animation but could be diff

[bleak latch]

anyone testing her yet

how her burst gen like

[vapid lake]

Should be normal rl

[eager mountain]

I can run a quick test in union ig

lol game crashed while launching

yep standard rl burst gen

[upper grove]

@quick lake it worked

[quick lake]

[upper grove]

can't cp gap my teams when I cp gap them myself

[naive goblet]

hey guys i recently got some new units, wondering what 3 pvp teams i should use. and which best 1 team for normal pvp

[swift mango]

Wdym better burst gen? Enemy Helm is not Treasure. And Noir is on this side.

[eager mountain]

read below didnt saw lb1 no trasure

[swift mango]

This is like 100% win rate thanks to Noir alone.

[eager mountain]

and i thought p1 p2 would die and no b2 no fullburst but rh lived 5rl and almost hitting deficit

[strange rain]

Whats noir doing here

[eager mountain]

noir burst gen

[strange rain]

Oh i thought smkinda bufflol

[swift mango]

Noir Burst gen and buff your normal attack.

You have 2SG and they have none. You win the normal attack game by defaults.

[strange rain]

Ye i just came up with the best comp i could pull off seems like it worked lmfao i have no idea what im doing but ok

[swift mango]

4 Attachments per comment

[brazen ledge]

against this guy,

[eager mountain]

do u remember if ur rh is close to dying before bursting or nah

[brazen ledge]

i made these teams, do they work ?

[strange rain]

She was 65% hp smthlike that

Burst heal her up tho

If this guy will be above me again ill record ig

[swift mango]

He should have killed Crown and SBS by the time RH burst.

[strange rain]

Yep i did

[brazen ledge]

@swift mango

[strange rain]

I killed crown then right before i burst killed sbs

[swift mango]

Could probably swap RH and Rossanna.

[eager mountain]

Their team sux so

[swift mango]

Wait wait, attacking team? Which one against which?

[brazen ledge]

i specifically showed the top to show to order

round 1 for t1

[eager mountain]

U should win

Their teams are messed up

[brazen ledge]

ok, ill go for it then

[swift mango]

So you understand which team he wanted to hit with those?

Your job to cook then, Tibi

[brazen ledge]

Noise team is t1, liter team is t3

I won btw

[eager mountain]

First pic t1 second t3 he said oppo in order so

Phone dying rip

[swift mango]

[eager mountain]

but I cooked nothing, his opponent got himself cooked with that def

[swift mango]

[brazen ledge]

Ye I figured he was the easiest one I could fight

[bleak shale]

i forgot i didnt upload but it was normal rl burst gen

should be up now

[oak gale]

currently i lose this , any idea what should i do to win here?

[bleak shale]

bump ur cp up

to 15% deficit

[oak gale]

like dis

*wait i forgot to add burst II 💀 *

wins , thanks

[umbral crown]

Imagine

[keen vapor]

Ancla o Anchoa

[umbral crown]

[naive goblet]

What teams are good for me

[umbral crown]

The ones @keen vapor will suggest you

[naive goblet]

Pretty sure I used their suggestion last time and it worked great, held chal1-2 since. I got a lot of new units now and wanna push T1

[naive goblet]

.

[keen vapor]

Which are new

[half grail]

Is any of these 2 characters worth for pvp?

[keen vapor]

Maybe Anchor

[raven plover]

anchor is.. something

[keen vapor]

Yeah, not an instant key unit, just an option

[vapid lake]

UOHHHHHH

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/chief-wiggum-come-out-with-your-hands-up-police-hold-up-the-simpsons-gif-20417502

[umbral crown]

She is

I would

Just imagine the posibilities

[naive goblet]

Centi redhood crown anchor mast uhh idk some other ssr

[naive goblet]

Also helm Alice bunny uhhh

Idk. I'm losing to rank 1 guy rn so I am looking for more team options

[umbral crown]

[nocturne arrow]

i just realized that rookie arena doesnt give gems
gonna focus on special arena

[crystal flicker]

So, hows MAnhor for PvP

[eager mountain]

[eager mountain]

who even have skill books to build and test at this point

[lunar pawn]

so is anchor a clip rl? how's her burst gen

[upper grove]

she's regular RL

[half grail]

So they not that great then just meh?

Gonna save for Collab or limited then

[leaden canyon]

That worked btw

blanc sbs hood emilia biscuit worked for defence. For the cindy team I changed noah and noise spots so its noah noise cindy helm centi, so that noise doesn't die in p1

even if they kill noah, full burst can still go off to nuke, seems like this worked

[glad meteor]

Anchor has potential

[raven plover]

max core anchor

[half grail]

So like she’s takes a main slot for pvp like Jackal, Noah, Centi, etc them?

[lone sequoia]

no

a filler

[glad meteor]

No

she creates some fake hp to tank a nuke

Noah blanc bay are better imo

[wise owl]

PvP chat, what do we feel about Anchor?

I'm thinking her burst could help, with the healing and atk buff

[lone sequoia]

decent values, depends in the team

40% caster hp (support stats) for a heal+ shield maybe not enough to tank some nukes

probably p1 or p2 die

[wise owl]

stuck in a position where I don't have biscuit and Noah, and jackal + bay are assigned to other teams

[lone sequoia]

then just use her+noise+speed as anti-nuke combo

or go with speed+buff+nuke

[wise owl]

nice nice

thanks

[umbral crown]

Cute

But you need to wait few days for people to test her

[umbral crown]

[celest pulsar]

Am I able to get Helm dupes with Silver tickets?

[upper grove]

yes

it's favorite item season 3 selector (not the gold ticket one)

[celest pulsar]

Ok, thank you

[eager mountain]

anti nuke setup and yet she gets nuked anyway cuz of water code

double fast anti nuke + trigger s1 heal might means helm but that means double water code getting nuked

we will see if the survivors can make it work somehow
also another reason to not run emi in def, at least single buffed emi

[umbral belfry]

RLs dolls from SR incoming trust

[upper grove]

too many RL units not enough RL dolls

[eager mountain]

5 selection box flex

[upper grove]

I'm still missing 2 blue RL dolls for pvp units, 4 if I include Bay and purple Anis. I have too many MG and SG dolls

[umbral crown]

Convert them

[upper grove]

I still have 5 SR selectors don't wanna use them until I can convert from R15

[umbral crown]

give them SR0 and hope for the best

[upper grove]

could consider that yeah

[eager mountain]

not like u can sr15 all those pvp rls anyway, can only choose for now, so really shouldnt be out of r rl doll unless u converted them all

[upper grove]

my solo raid drop luck with dolls is really bad. I've already converted so many blue SG and MG dolls after all usable units got one

[wet crystal]

how's anchor's burst gen in pvp?

[eager mountain]

regular rl

[graceful grotto]

i don't even care for dolls drop at this point, i just want the box

[keen vapor]

Noise level

[graceful grotto]

is noise even any different than other RL burst gen? hahaha

[keen vapor]

Exactly

[umbral crown]

but noise is not cute as Anchor is

[graceful grotto]

anchor burst is adorable lol

[quick lake]

⚓

[eager mountain]

Much better if they lock first part of her burst animation as wallpaper…

[upper grove]

complaining worked, immediately 2 blue RL dolls dropped

[umbral belfry]

you took mine

[umbral crown]

always complain

Za Warudo

besto advice of the day

[viral spoke]

i don't get it what's the point of report system in PvP if there's no way to see replay

so SU expects you to spot and report immediately with just one look at the match?

[swift mango]

If you do quick battle you could replay as many time at you want in the result screen afterward. Also, record the fight.

[swift mango]

Try n102

[keen vapor]

Try Yuni

[coral orbit]

which team is better in defence ?

[keen vapor]

I have my doubts for the first one so I recommend to run a lot of tests on rookie arena

Second is solid, maybe too "barely 3 RL" but it's okay

Also, I don't think Rapunzel makes sense there, not more than a Noise instead

[coral orbit]

on the other sheet it is 3.3 RL

[coral orbit]

i am trying to fit rapunzel in a team, thought double revive makes sense

[keen vapor]

i knew it

[keen vapor]

In order to use Rapunzel revive you need one unit to die before you burst

But surprise, Mana revive her first

So basically you'll never be able to use Rapunzel revive

[swift mango]

Try whole team getting wipe but Rapu.

[keen vapor]

Nuh huh
Then that's skill issue.... Or CP diff

[covert lintel]

should i change to credit farm in every event now?

[swift mango]

That's one mfk tanky Rapu.

[keen vapor]

I've been buying credits only with leftovers from event currency

[eager mountain]

exp to credit, raw credit from event store instead of cd, most govn't box for credit. 1:1 senario still cd

[covert lintel]

i did too but it's not covering

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

You have been bricking yourselves.

[keen vapor]

No

[eager mountain]

[keen vapor]

Uwoh

[coral orbit]

gotcha

thanks

[keen vapor]

My Helm stuck on R11

Even after opening kit cases

At least got super success before phase 8

[crystal flicker]

fr, this doll gacha is bs

[swift mango]

Anchor+Nero+HelmT+Mana+Rapu

Should work somehow.

Everyone getting that dmg reduction from Nero. Then if Anchor DED, Mana would revive her. Even if not, Nero would hard block at p2.

The team needs max doll for all of 5 though. Because it focus on tanking

[eager mountain]

yeah the tank team sr15 wonder......

[brittle hill]

Oho. Goodbye Centi

[crystal flicker]

Terrible

[swift mango]

I guess, Noise should also work somehow.

[eager mountain]

kits mostly used for hard meta pve chara and few treasure, still have some savings but thats far from enough

[swift mango]

That's why I don't pull for Anchor right now. I could still get her from next year selector when I have enough spare mats to build that kind of team.

[brittle hill]

This one I want to attempt for helm actually. It would be such a waste for scarlet team. I don't have Bay yet #pvp-arena message

[eager mountain]

i usually use selector for banner skipped after summer (less time unavailable, qeq for last yr), so i tend to pull more before summer

[umbral belfry]

@tropic summit jackal's (finally) home? cooking time again?

[swift mango]

That's assuming there were better PVP units in the first place.

If there were better PvP units then no reason to coming back for Anchor.

Nah, I don't build PvE only units anymore unless waifu.

[umbral belfry]

but also another RL doll needed

[eager mountain]

i wanted to stop giving f about joke uselss dps thats almost only used in elem advantage sr but its always a bit tempting to get those

[crystal flicker]

I mean yeah, but XMaiden did nothing there and don't compare yourself to Keripo fr

He's Leviathan

[graceful grotto]

guys

should MRM busrt first or AIM first?

[eager mountain]

U don’t use mmast at all in PvP but mast first in pve

[graceful grotto]

oops i was supposed to ask for pve, wrong chat haahahaah

[keen vapor]

Well, I managed to beat Tsubasa today

But he changed his recipe from last time so

In essence it was the same

But not really

For some reason Rapi NOW decided to nuke the whole enemy team

Maybe it's a bug

Stonks

Surely it's not bc game is on low graphics now

[swift mango]

Whole team got linked. And it could be a crit.

[keen vapor]

It wasn't happening before

[swift mango]

Bad luck

[keen vapor]

Yeah, you're right, it seems to be a crit

[swift mango]

Also, Noise p1 link make whole team take element bonus.

[keen vapor]

It wasn't happening before

[swift mango]

I mean, if Noise ded before you burst or Rumani getting immunity before you burst you would actually deal less DMG.

If both happened then your nuke would deal zero dmg.

[keen vapor]

He has 2 extra levels since the last time

Maybe Miranda treasure is the secret to successful snipes

[swift mango]

Emotional support

[keen vapor]

Surely burst doesn't loses crit against a Rapi bullet

[swift mango]

Well, Rapipi only do 9000% once, it's 10-20% Crit rate base, you will need to fight him 10-5 times for it to Crit once.

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

And we don't know what happened to your other match's or if they used this same line up and same charge speed on both side.

[keen vapor]

Tomorrow I'll see if I can send vid... And cook

Too sleepy

But I have to, he got centi and RH

[swift mango]

Biscuit p5 could also get sniped by RH before Rapipi and bay burst.

[keen vapor]

Rumani got immune

[swift mango]

Noise alive right? So a crit it is.

[keen vapor]

Goodnight

[keen vapor]

Miranda treasure

[swift mango]

The could also not putting SBS p3 before so not getting hit and chipped by Emi.

[swift mango]

Also, their Bay cover could be intact when your Rapipi burst other times. But not this time.

[keen vapor]

How do you know SBS died

[keen vapor]

Never intact

[swift mango]

You said your Rapipi wiped.

[keen vapor]

I meant my SBS from your cooking for Noah Cindy team

[swift mango]

I don't even remember what that is.

[keen vapor]

Ok, checked and it was intact both times

[keen vapor]

2.5

[swift mango]

Yeah, you need cover down to one shot over Bay.

They could have invested in CS and lose thanks to it.

[keen vapor]

That makes it sound as if team was vulnerable to scar jack

[swift mango]

But for their team to be faster they need CS on all of them.

Including Bay, Noise, Biscuit, Rumani. Maybe even SBS.

So maybe not.

[swift mango]

2.5RL scarjack would normally wipe that team.

Unless they have 10% CS on all of their RL.

[keen vapor]

[quick lake]

[umbral belfry]

does anyone have vids of a noise/cindy/jackal team by any chance?

[limber rampart]

bro @tropic summit last week u asked me did i have scarlet? and i got scarlet with 10 roll in ordinary recruit
Yesterday u cook me a route toward but i ask myself how can i have redhood
omg i have redhood now

@tropic summit i luv u so much

[tender valve]

like this ?

[umbral belfry]

close enough! not exactly the main team i was hoping for (for myself) but the context helps a bunch

[tropic summit]

haha you've been blessed with good RNG on pilgrim, now take your time and build them

[tropic summit]

yeah we probably should see if we can fit her already
post your box and ping me when you want 🤔

[umbral belfry]

I can still post my full box if you want but, bc my def is working rn, I don't really see a reason to change my team fully for the time being? I was assuming the only change would be switch anis for jackal simply for cp purposes (and change some positions?) can't take alice out or my cp takes a nosedive

altho my highest attacks on that team is alice and noise

[tropic summit]

well we could also just wait for your def to be broke first while you can build jackal for the time being

[umbral belfry]

trueeee

[tropic summit]

keep her hidden for now

[umbral belfry]

heheheh

okay dok, ty!

[tropic summit]

no problemo

[tender valve]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-ok-great-good-thumbs-up-gif-16351183

[coarse lake]

what do you wanna know? I've faced a lot of variations of those

also btw anyone tried out anchor in pvp yet, and had her actually do something important

bit of advice on jackal cindy, sometimes using jackal can hurt your comp

makes cindy weak to other cindies is the main problem

[eager mountain]

i want to try her with noise but no way i have any more spare books for her

[coarse lake]

I could try it but I got a feeling imma just die

[eager mountain]

oh i dont even have s10 nosie burst

[coarse lake]

me neither

[eager mountain]

and the maids being b2 on-burst duo burning twice the books

wtf SU

https://tenor.com/view/fire-flame-burning-paper-gif-17794892

[swift mango]

Just tried mother whale at 341... Look like I'm gonna will stuck here until 361 and blue it.

No reason to try hard for 1 core dust an hour

[coarse lake]

what comp

[crystal flicker]

1cd/hour * 1000 boxes

[coarse lake]

I did it with this comp at 545k

although I did tribe tower whale much easier with cindy raw dmg, basically raw dpsing it instead of focusing on parts

idk if that works on campaign whale

had to sweat for mod timing and crown invuln timing

[swift mango]

I'm phone only player and also don't have such PvE units built

[coarse lake]

try out cindy if she has high ele, prob easier than trying to alice

[swift mango]

Less than 500 gem

[crystal flicker]

I mean the more boxes, the more difference

[swift mango]

Only until I blue it.

[swift mango]

You also did it at 343... I only need 361+ to blue it.

Not much difference

[coarse lake]

how far off are you to blue

[swift mango]

Try did it at 301 to flex.

[coarse lake]

I was only at 20% deficit, I basically didn't wanna bother malding it

[swift mango]

601k now, need 80k more.

[coarse lake]

I mean I did that fight with 55 sec spare lol

[swift mango]

20 level should be enough

[coarse lake]

if I malded earlier maybe I could do it pre 341

hmm

what comp tho

[shell hazel]

dolls let's go!

[coarse lake]

incoming 4x smg

[swift mango]

If I were blue, RH-Crown-RH should get the job done

[coarse lake]

can you try it with crown rh cindy

don't break core, I wanna see how much cindy does relative to rh

[crystal flicker]

I got plenty R RL dolls from SR, seems like one of the Eva gonna be RL

[swift mango]

Need 20 levels more to blue

Right now it's not working

[coarse lake]

how much did cindy do relative to rh

[coarse lake]

so now I know who's been taking all of mine

[swift mango]

More dmg ofc

[fathom rock]

[coarse lake]

how much roughly, and what ele is your cindy

[swift mango]

My Cindy has 44% Ele I think.

[shell hazel]

no RL so far booo. SMG/SR/MG/SG 1 of each

[coarse lake]

[fathom rock]

You guys speaking mw?

[eager mountain]

🤔 341 cant snipe MW core with crown rh naga?

[coarse lake]

hmm actually I can prob figure it out by comparing relative whale hp bars + dps dmg + bars lost on part break

[fathom rock]

Nopers
341 is a the average clear lvl if you follow mecahnics

[swift mango]

I don't have Naga built.

[eager mountain]

i dont even remember the levels

[fathom rock]

90 bars per port, boss has around 1114 bars

[swift mango]

Average CP for 341 team is 560k I guess.

Not many have 600k like me. I would be down to 550k below if I add my unbuilt Naga.

[fathom rock]

@swift mango youre almost blue right?

[eager mountain]

[swift mango]

600k/680k

[fathom rock]

Yoi can get away with a lot

[swift mango]

Still far for that

Need 20 lv more.

[shell hazel]

OK my first fav item mission for helm is a thing!

[fathom rock]

I know you main pvp
Hows rrh and scar

[fathom rock]

I think she isnt 30 bond?

[swift mango]

RRH 555, SBS 10710, Scarlet 101010. Sr5 only though.

[coarse lake]

how much total team dmg dealt at end of fight

[shell hazel]

right bit below but working on it 🙂

I got a single RL doll so far, who should get it out of biscuit/rapu/centi?

[swift mango]

You burst with Modernia to clear the add right?

[fathom rock]

Yes
#1309250601493860362 there are lots of vid there on how to beat it and full rundown of mechanics

[shell hazel]

I can get her to 26

need more gifts 🙂

[fathom rock]

Probably biscuit if i had to pick but you should doll them all

[eager mountain]

how u ran out of gifts do u whale for dups

[shell hazel]

I normally just use them as they come in

but since I decided to get helm I've been giving most to her

[swift mango]

I don't have Naga, I don't have Rapipi maxed, I don't have Liter, I don't have Modernia. So nah, I will wait for blue or at least skill reset

And HelmT built

[fathom rock]

bonus recruit exists tf

[eager mountain]

stacking more and more tickets cuz nowhere to really use them, a majority of niks already full bond
will only need those if i roll for dups

[coarse lake]

1310 bars 108 bars/part 540mil total dmg | 1114 bars 90 bars/part 251mil total dmg
hmm, left is tribe tower approximations from my own vid

[valid fern]

no liter is rough. wow

[swift mango]

Don't have as in, no OL and max skill them.

[fathom rock]

Not 390 im actually walled there

[coarse lake]

breaking a bar doesn't count as dmg dealt right

[fathom rock]

What cdr do you have built then

[shell hazel]

my highest bond is like Cindy 35 but I've only been playing since anni

[coarse lake]

I need to factor that out, do you know how many bars you broke in your fight

[eager mountain]

oh thats why

[swift mango]

DKW sr15 101010, 11-12 lines

[shell hazel]

I could buy this

do I still need doll mats for fav item or can I go back to getting doll upgrades on my other units? 😄

[eager mountain]

if u spend all ur coop attempts then there should be more then enough red balls for u to use for some gift after u trade every other resources

[coarse lake]

ok I broke 4 bars in my tribe attempt, how many did you break retro?

[shell hazel]

yeah I've already bought most of the shop, I'll do it help get to 30 quicker

[eager mountain]

didnt do the math, donno if u can get all gifts, just ignore the abnormal gifts
tetra gifts usually have more use cuz of tetra having more niks

[coarse lake]

ok checked someone else's vid, ratio of actual bars you had to go through (excluding bars from part break) to total dmg is fairly similar ratio

which means tribe and campaign whales should be very similar

so a well built cindy should work great for campaign whale

you don't have to break as many parts, cindy carries through raw dmg

[fathom rock]

8

[coarse lake]

ok yeah that lines up too

[swift mango]

Kinda hate how Rapipi almost outshine DKW in everything.

[coarse lake]

I had to do 2x the raw dmg breaking 4 parts

[swift mango]

Kinda force me to skill reset DKW

[coarse lake]

which does line up more or less

[eager mountain]

didnt u built dkw for waifu

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

means that breaking parts is approx same value in both whales

[fathom rock]

Dont lmao

[coarse lake]

as in, not that much value if you just use cindy

[fathom rock]

@swift mango crown/dkw/redhood/scar/1 1 1 mod?

Hows doro?

[eager mountain]

dkw isnt even 10/10/10 worth to begin with and now shes benched by rapi so technically he should

[swift mango]

I don't have Doro and Mordenia. My luck with Pligrim is pretty terrible.

[fathom rock]

Yeah maybw to 7/10/7 but she is used enough in raids to not care

[fathom rock]

Smol whit?

[eager mountain]

dkw would be like 7/10/4-7 ye

[swift mango]

Nah I'm not building that shit.

[eager mountain]

so reset and still some books back

[fathom rock]

just 4/4/4 no ol

[eager mountain]

doubt he'd care much about sr

[swift mango]

101010 currently

[eager mountain]

mines 101010

but will reset next time

was the best b1 cdr campaign but lol rapi
liter delay make dkw slight more universal

[fathom rock]

4/7/4 here

[coarse lake]

7/10/4

raid only, got the s2 to 10 bc in tiga comps with rh, she would run into cd every time by a little bit

[fathom rock]

I can test shit

[swift mango]

DKW is like my best CP flex for Arena right now. Doesn't feed, alright burst gen, very high CP... Rapipi would be almost useless for Arena when I reset DKW for her...

[eager mountain]

avergae stages its rh b1 2 burst cycle, base defense it was dkw, rarely use liter

[coarse lake]

see whether high invest cindy is easier than the old comps

[fathom rock]

For his cp cindy is a lot easier lol

Im just trying to figure out his mob clear strat

Blood you should try swid just put her in sync
Crown/dkw/rh/cindy/swid 💀

How much cp would that be

[coarse lake]

yeah mob clear strat can get messy

honestly mod is best if you can figure it out

[whole pawn]

is that
......mw?

[coarse lake]

really about timing mod burst at right time and targeting the right areas of the screen

[fathom rock]

Yes

[fathom rock]

Poor bro dont have mod or doro
His only option is swid

[coarse lake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aT_fN9S1M2c

first wave targeting took a while to get right

second wave is a lot easier and more consistent

[whole pawn]

the pain

[fathom rock]

Kill 1st wave no burst
2nd and 3rd wave mod burst

[fathom rock]

But he doesnt have mod

[coarse lake]

oh..

hmm, some ppl use priv

rapipi + crown + priv might be enough?

[eager mountain]

i ran screenwipe b3 the time i did hard MW

[fathom rock]

Rrh not built
This is deadge rn
Im still thinking swid

[coarse lake]

no chance his swid is built

and building swid is bricking his account

[eager mountain]

and tbh, mari might have a niche there

[fathom rock]

Just put her in sync enough
No ol needed

[coarse lake]

drops cp too low

[swift mango]

Just wait and blue it, easy.

[fathom rock]

He has 600k no way he drops below 500k

[coarse lake]

did he try the core break strat

[eager mountain]

mod isnt really needed anyway

[coarse lake]

that's the usual strat for comps basically at blue

[fathom rock]

No built naga he cant kill core

[coarse lake]

bricked acc

[fathom rock]

Are you 60 fps enjoyer?

[eager mountain]

pvp acc

[swift mango]

I will kill core when I'm 361

[eager mountain]

but bricking campaign is also bricking pvp level lol

[fathom rock]

Are you 60 fps or no and does crown have max ammo lines

[swift mango]

When I pass 21 I won't be bricked any more.

[fathom rock]

24-34

[eager mountain]

oh no, there are always more walls behind, MW isnt nearly as bad as it was since crown

[swift mango]

Well, MW is bad for my roster. But 34 doesn't use Naga.

I won't be slower than anyone in my bracket.

[eager mountain]

not ch 34 tho

but those farter sliencer spam stages in 23-24ch, quite annoying

[swift mango]

With HelmT built my roster will be ready to clear up to ch34 without handicapped.

And Rapipi skill stolen from DKW ofc

Phone playing is still a handicap ofc

[eager mountain]

helmt not as good as naga in campaign since usually perm core but ig solid enough to run here then unbuild naga

[fathom rock]

@swift mango crown/dkw/rh/cindy/scarlet
Start with dkw crown rh hit right port iframe balls
Follow it uo with dkw crown cindy for dmg and keep iframing balls
Reload crown befire mobs spawn and Use crown to kill wave 1 mobs
Time scarlet burst for wave 2
Use crown to kill wave 3
In wave 3 attack the 3 on very left and right to kill while descending and iframe the other pea shooters

This will only work if 60 fps

[swift mango]

Boss is the only thing that hard stop me in campaign and later boss don't have core.

[eager mountain]

it will be mobs for a bit trust

later bosses lowest clear still has some naga btw, despite temp/no core

[swift mango]

Yeah some

[fathom rock]

Nezt thing he gon tell me cindy isnt built

[eager mountain]

cindy is pvp unit so i think shes built

[swift mango]

10/10/10 12 line sr15. Highest CP now above DKW a bit

[eager mountain]

25 cs cindy

[swift mango]

Typo

[fathom rock]

Yup you can run that

Id give you vid example but im so scarletless and 20 fps

[umbral belfry]

I was moreso curious about how that comp goes really. I don't have scarlet yet for jackal, and I'm just working with what I have rn (team would be noise cindy centi alice jackal)

[swift mango]

I will just wait 1 month to blue it

[fathom rock]

[whole pawn]

chat can i win?

[swift mango]

Will lose at most 1000k worth of gem anyway.

Np at all

[fathom rock]

T1 win blindfolded
T2 you lose on regen

[swift mango]

Not even one level

[eager mountain]

is sbs+alice that common in low sync sp

[whole pawn]

mmmm do i swap alice to rummani?

[eager mountain]

rh

[swift mango]

Everyone and their mother advise newbie to build SBs-Alice now.

[fathom rock]

That makes you both have same regen you wanna be faster or use biscuit

[eager mountain]

i would as well, miner team too important

[swift mango]

Little did they know they still need 361+ to farm stage 6.

[valid fern]

back when I was starting, I was being blown up by bsodas

[coarse lake]

Depends on the b2

Unless using Noah biscuit there, generally you wanna be 2rl

[eager mountain]

no not really its just having high lv skills and sbs alice ols
361 can even s7

[umbral belfry]

yeah I figured unfortunately both are used on my sbs team currently

[coarse lake]

Jackal is useful if noah biscuit, otherwise a liability unless needed for gen

[whole pawn]

maybe i m trolling

[swift mango]

And mald for half an hour everytime if you are not 361+

No thanks

[umbral belfry]

Anis was originally in jackals spot. if I were to switch rn it would only be for cp gain

[fathom rock]

Swap biscuit to alice for cp pad, order :
Cindy/xmaid/centi/rapi rh/alice (cindy o1 bc his comp has no rl lmao)
Make t2 jackal/anis/sbs/biscuit/rumani
Hows cp looking?

[coarse lake]

If no noah or biscuit, you need to make it 2rl

[eager mountain]

worth the 4 min of mald, rock enslaved
even tho its 3min now for me

[fathom rock]

Your regen is slower you risk tanking a shot or 2

[swift mango]

Not 4 mins, that's for lv401 like you

[whole pawn]

cindy 2 times?

[fathom rock]

Lol confused her for centi

[umbral belfry]

I would assume (if Noah and bisc are on another team) noise cindy centi anis jackal? as an example?

[coarse lake]

Put Cindy p4 or p5

[whole pawn]

good question

[coarse lake]

Not sure if that team is 2rl

[eager mountain]

i doubt mf actually rerunning for half an hour everyday just to hit s6

[fathom rock]

Deficit

Have noah?

[umbral belfry]

I'd have to check at another time. I can't change my team to make it 2RL rn bc I don't have enough units + cp loss would be too great but ill keep that in mind. ty for your tips!

[coarse lake]

Eh should be with quantums and feed

[whole pawn]

can i use rh instead of rumani?

[fathom rock]

You are praying their sbs doesnt slip if you do that

[swift mango]

I won't either. Naga isn't doing too well at low level. I need 361 durability or HelmT so I won't ded to tentacle.

[tender valve]

team cindy need 2,5 RL

[valid fern]

I'm like 1/10th of a bar away from reaching kraken stage 6 with liter/crown/cindy/sbs/tHelm at level 331.

[whole pawn]

do we cope

[eager mountain]

good news then maid mast just benched naga there, no babysitting naga

[whole pawn]

if i win i will do a 10 pull on anchor

[umbral belfry]

is that lap+?

[fathom rock]

Wait a bit

[whole pawn]

ok

[swift mango]

I almost have HelmT built and you tell me to pull Maid duo just to farm rock? I would rather wait 20 level

[coarse lake]

Crown helm is fine for kraken

[fathom rock]

Does cento have ol?

[eager mountain]

either way u wont need built naga its just sbs alice ol

[coarse lake]

Although sustain could be issue

[whole pawn]

not full

[fathom rock]

Guys would that 3rl

[tender valve]

you can test lap basic, can also swap anis sr or maybe alice

[coarse lake]

Can always helm burst instead of alice occasionally, assuming auto Alice

[fathom rock]

Check cp for jackal/centi/sbs/biscuit/xmaid

[whole pawn]

i wonder can i use scarllet even tho she has less cp than sbs?

[fathom rock]

Youre lacking cp ypull need that

[umbral belfry]

taking out alice makes my cp dive so hard (also I have no lap ) I'll just wait and see for when I lose def to redo teams

[fathom rock]

How much with scar instead of sbs?

[umbral belfry]

for now I wait

[fathom rock]

I hope you invested in your scar burst
Go for it

[whole pawn]

[eager mountain]

doubt 0 buff burst gonna wipe anyway

[swift mango]

I tried to manual and got to stage 5 today just for 0 rock x3.

Auto to stage 4 and I get at least 1 everyday.

[fathom rock]

Xmaid buff and centi debuff

[swift mango]

0x3=0

[whole pawn]

do i gamble?

[eager mountain]

ik but thats like half of xanne's

[fathom rock]

Yep

[eager mountain]

yolo

[whole pawn]

this ok?

[fathom rock]

But low sync sp should be fine

[eager mountain]

this team is free

[fathom rock]

Swap order to cindy/blanc/rh/rumani/alice

[whole pawn]

I did

[fathom rock]

Yolo

[whole pawn]

ok we cope

[eager mountain]

should clears anyway

[fathom rock]

Bro he has no rl why would i care

[eager mountain]

not u
there should be a lil guide pointing out those stuff tbh

[upper grove]

That's enough feed for whole village

[whole pawn]

i lost...µ

@fathom rock i should go for smt lower

[eager mountain]

so scar didnt wipe or

[valid fern]

so close to the 1RL dream. HelmT could probably let me reach it lol but I need her on another team.

[fathom rock]

Yup scar didnt wipe

[whole pawn]

[eager mountain]

theres no 1rl team as for now unless enemy runs 5 sgs

[whole pawn]

ig chal 9 is impssoble to take

[fathom rock]

Time to try making you run 2rl cindy

Try jackal/centi/cindy/biscuit/anis

[whole pawn]

deficit

[fathom rock]

[valid fern]

I mean I saw the bar go up to like 90% at 1RL. I just have to believe

[fathom rock]

Just show enemy 3rd team

[fathom rock]

Not this
The other ones

[whole pawn]

this is where i loose

this is t2

[fathom rock]

What about t1

[whole pawn]

[fathom rock]

[whole pawn]

seems not winnable against this foe

[coarse lake]

No bay or Noah?

[fathom rock]

Nope
Nah we can try rh scar lemme cook

[whole pawn]

[fathom rock]

@whole pawn scar/centi/anis/rh/jackal cp?

[coarse lake]

Use bay biscuit with bscar

[whole pawn]

lvl 1 skills and no ol, i got her reecently

[fathom rock]

Yup this wins

[whole pawn]

if i win i pull a 10

T2?

[tender valve]

3 team meta 1 RL coming soon

[whole pawn]

blanc biscuit Cindy rumani Alice?
@fathom rock

[fathom rock]

Swap rumani and biscuit placement then go for it

[whole pawn]

[fathom rock]

Waiting in #gacha-rolls

[eager mountain]

giga rh buff diff yeah

[fathom rock]

Im so bad at cooking with scar
Maybe cuz im used to not using her

[eager mountain]

i wont know how much buffs needed for each sync neither

[whole pawn]

not sure if i should use biscuit

[fathom rock]

Free win you worry too much

[eager mountain]

they dont have burst gen

[umbral belfry]

wait im dumb. how was lap getting attacked? their lap?

[eager mountain]

link

[umbral belfry]

ty ty!

[fathom rock]

Jackal shares hp pool with cindy and laplace
Defender sg attacks p5

[whole pawn]

i did win ty

[crystal flicker]

All team deficit

T3 lose bcoz 4RL Crown vs 3RL Cindy

Though, their P1 survived Cindy Nuke, but die from basic attack

[ruby iris]

Is there a way to buff the OGscarlet team without weakening the others?

[crystal flicker]

RH fit better in Scarlet comp

[swift mango]

First, move Scarlet to p1...

Secondly, don't use Noir with ASS B3.

[lunar dirge]

noir has no ass

[swift mango]

What is this? 3 second before you lose?

[crystal flicker]

there's no way hes losing that

[swift mango]

Joking aside, Anchor basically serves no purpose here.

[crystal flicker]

Flex

C7 probably

[lunar dirge]

Styling for the love of the game? Respect

[quick lake]

Anyone tested Anchor?

[crystal flicker]

Your top has MAnchor for PvP

[ruby iris]

It's the team I use to counter one shotters with Noah

[swift mango]

The problem with Noir is that she reduces ASS's burst dmg by 4 times just by existing in the same squad.

[ruby iris]

Yeah that's true

[ruby iris]

Oh really?

[dim escarp]

All raw ol are done for my 3 pvp teams
So I start to think about optimizing the lines, except for my main dps unit I m a bit lost.
Like is it really worth to roll for charge speed on fast burst gen unit ? if yes how much I need ?

[glad meteor]

People usually go 17%.
17% CS = 3RL hits in 2.5RL

You may need to stat pad. Depending on your competition

[strong hull]

Blood kun

3 new def pls

For my bricked account