pvp-arena

[tropic summit]

and T1 we can noah s.anis it

ignore T3, he's padding it

[brazen ledge]

it works like that for t1 ?

[rustic sandal]

I see

[brazen ledge]

@keen vapor

[tropic summit]

let's try these 2, CP wise i think you should be in range

[keen vapor]

I also tried Rumani and anis

[tropic summit]

p.s. we using emi as a battery, so don't worry about her being weaker, she only needs to help us reach burst

[brazen ledge]

rumani and anis instead of who ?

[keen vapor]

Emilia and Jackal

[brazen ledge]

emi is just for fast burst

[keen vapor]

Yes

[brazen ledge]

jackal is for t2, many shotguns, links are going hard

[keen vapor]

That's why

[brazen ledge]

so how do i put that ?

[rustic sandal]

@tropic summit what do ya think

[tropic summit]

aww yes, we in range

time to strike, record if you can

[keen vapor]

Put them in jackal and Emi positions?

Maybe Rumani P3

[glad meteor]

SG feed

They look slow though hopefully

[brazen ledge]

huh i have a cp problem

[keen vapor]

Oh no

[tropic summit]

they're both theoretically 3RL, but yeah there is a bit of concern there

[keen vapor]

You didn't overloaded them

[tropic summit]

oh he won @glad meteor

[brazen ledge]

everyones overloaded

[glad meteor]

[keen vapor]

Then dolls

[glad meteor]

Got scared for a second

[brazen ledge]

dolls are still not the best

[tropic summit]

good job @rustic sandal , next step we take this guy out once you've invested a bit more on your scarlet-jackal team

[brazen ledge]

i try to do helm at the same time its harddddd

[keen vapor]

I R15 them

[keen vapor]

me too

[tropic summit]

although it was probably close that noah hit B2 before they hit B3

[brazen ledge]

they aren't even r15 yet

[rustic sandal]

aye aye captain

[tropic summit]

did you happen to record it? we were curious if your s.anis managed to feed their jackal enough to hit B3 before your B2, but we thinking it didn't happen

[rustic sandal]

Yeah it's uploading rn

[glad meteor]

C5 union

New emote

[tropic summit]

i want my ladder mate to beat china guy in ch2 together, the dream is coming

[glad meteor]

@rich quail

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

surprised an emoji of trony does not involve 🦶 🤔

[keen vapor]

[rustic sandal]

I donno what happened but I got timed out for some reason

[tropic summit]

ohoh let's see

[tropic summit]

@glad meteor mother of god it was close af

B2 (noah) and B3 (cindy) went off near same time

either way good job @rustic sandal , thank you for sharing

[rustic sandal]

Thank you for the help ! very kind of you

@brazen ledge Thank you also

[brazen ledge]

Did I help at all in the end ?

[rustic sandal]

Yeah absolutely

[fathom rock]

@tropic summit remember taya in rookie ?
Im having flashbacks

Aso the last 2 atk teams we cooked kinda just smoke everyone in sp

But i became a bigger target now

[tropic summit]

yep those are pretty good overall in fact

shame that most likely you're getting CP padded to oblivion

just pray next reshuffle puts you against less whale-ish and you find a scarlet

[fathom rock]

[keen vapor]

I already got that it can only become worse for me

[tropic summit]

best I can do is give you a morale boosting hug + thoughts & prayers

[eager mountain]

shouldve photoshop'd it with this emote

i kinda wanna do it and request that as emote but that might be considered inappropriate

[tropic summit]

we live in fragile times, god forbid showing a bit of skin, but heads getting detached is normal business

||totally not hinting to liliweiss||

[eager mountain]

i didnt expect the ||liliweiss|| reference coming

[eager mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/mami-tomoe-mami-madoka-magica-mami-tomoe-madoka-magica-madoka-magica-pmmm-gif-2074691840321769514

[tropic summit]

ah yes, another PTSD that i wasn't prepared for back then

i remember i watched that on my PSP in the middle of the evening before having to sleep

[eager mountain]

sadly i got spoiled before watching it, too wideknown meme

[tropic summit]

i went in expecting something a-la card captor sakura

i came out as a grown man with beard and PTSD

[eager mountain]

its not that bad as long that didnt make u bald

[tropic summit]

nah hair i still got em

on the head

[eager mountain]

they couldve made nikke final boss look really funny u know...

https://tenor.com/view/aot-attack-on-titan-shingeki-no-kyojin-snk-attack-gif-25304424

oh wait thats kinda what the rapture queen already feel like

[tropic summit]

i dunno i would've been much more happy with this kind of vibes on the normal maps

that really makes you feel how scary raptures should be

[eager mountain]

dev mentioned harvester was supposed to be more spooky then the curr ver

[tropic summit]

oh well... we get what we can get

[eager mountain]

i liked his dying animation ngl, shotting his one shot beam right before he dies

he couldve kill the whole team if he couldve simply aim it

[tropic summit]

eh true, failing QTE is instant wipe afterall

[eager mountain]

we getting the "user friendly" version

[rich quail]

[eager mountain]

[unkempt kestrel]

do u guys use gems every event to get more core dust? I havnet been and i think thats one of the reason why my lvl is so low

[eager mountain]

yes

worth every gem, best way to lv up

[grand plaza]

I don't understand why Folkwang considered "decent" in PVP

Aren't passive skills activated after their cooldown? That would make her pretty much useless considering that PvP matches doesn't last 20 sec

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/characters/folkwang

[unkempt kestrel]

rip me havent been doing it since i started playing 😭

[eager mountain]

outdated

[unkempt kestrel]

i guess its never too late to start now

[eager mountain]

you should check this page to see if the review is outdated or not

[grand plaza]

What I said is correct tho, right?

Skills with cooldown doesn't activate until their cooldown is done.

(was it different back then?)

[eager mountain]

yes those type of second passive typically wont have anyuse in pvp
one rare instance would be centi's in a stall match, nothing major but a shield

she was decent cuz of burst

[grand plaza]

I just realized, thought it is because of taunt as usual (every character with taunt has good PVP point) but that burst is decent

[glad meteor]

That lifesteal ain’t bad

Would i invest though? If i had resources maybe

[eager mountain]

id hope the best of her treasure

[glad meteor]

Milk 2.0

[eager mountain]

even if milk2.0 she might have use in CA tho

[glad meteor]

Maybe

[eager mountain]

tho 4 treasure per 6 month lol

better hope for isabel doro harren treasure

[glad meteor]

@rich quail lurker

Respect trony

[rich quail]

No

[glad meteor]

[rich quail]

That filthy feet girl must get the reverse of treasure

[glad meteor]

Hmm, i don’t like how that sounds

[eager mountain]

i wish

[glad meteor]

ET probably bullied her into depression

[eager mountain]

but seems like they are not treasuring any newer nik yet

[rich quail]

You all are GARBAGE

[glad meteor]

[eager mountain]

i pulled cuz of f.... you know what i mean

[glad meteor]

Trust, trony going to invite to the maiden, elegg and exia party

[rich quail]

🤢

[umbral crown]

When we cooking with trony?

She has potential for pvp?

[eager mountain]

c7'd nero from mold, guess time to build her a yr after

[eager mountain]

i wish one day we can

[umbral crown]

Her face bought me

[eager mountain]

also boda's face

[keen vapor]

La boba

[umbral crown]

Massive object... not really

[eager mountain]

the face she make is more addictive then the massive objects

[rich quail]

[umbral crown]

[eager mountain]

did they just name this "Soda C*m Drip"

[rich quail]

They sure did

[vapid lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1335090614231896198.webp?size=128

[keen vapor]

[eager mountain]

[rich quail]

I was not responsible

You are just killing the messenger

[eager mountain]

u'd gladly be if u were

[rich quail]

This emote is the favorite emote of a certain individual called “Mister International”

[eager mountain]

cultured man

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-moderation-ban-mod-ban-gif-9351874248631360646

[unkempt kestrel]

I just got Noah, Noah team needs to be +1 RL above enemy team right?

[keen vapor]

Uh, no?

[pale sage]

Sorry to bother anyone. But can somone explain what RL means ?

[unkempt kestrel]

ohh I was under the impression if enemy is 3RL noah should be +1 so 4RL.

[glad glade]

Rocket launcher

[keen vapor]

No

[unkempt kestrel]

is there any general rule i can use when having noah against enemy team?

[pale sage]

With Noah. Sometimes you want to delay her burst. Or speed up her burst. Depending on the team your facing

[keen vapor]

Either same speed or faster (-1 RL)

[keen vapor]

#1153017654332883055

[eager mountain]

only true if ur trying to tank emi nuke (or some rare stall vs stall senario), but depending ur deck there should've alternative solutions to emi b3

[unkempt kestrel]

ohh the chat I must had read while searching this channel might had been related to emi.

[clever fox]

Time to get into pvp
Where do I start
Pt 2

[umbral crown]

Always summon an expert, @keen vapor

[keen vapor]

I'm spending time with Noir

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Mica higher investment than Emilia

[coarse lake]

Mica higher investment than Emilia

[keen vapor]

The server with the Hu Tao Why emote

[limber patrol]

for defending team I have to reverse the team order?

[crystal flicker]

no

[swift mango]

Echo could only wish it was him

[swift mango]

Up to which character you have OL on?

...Elegg higher CP than Scarlet.

You are at least 60 level behind your bracket.

Likely 80.

[keen vapor]

Ok, this is worrying

[coarse lake]

everything past the first line is probably 0 invest or nearly there

I hope that's the case

otherwise it means your account is bricked with how many trash units you got built

[clever fox]

Oh jeez lemme check :)

Alice is full ol
Bs scarlet 1/2
Ein full (she's cute I had to)
Cindy full ol
Rosanna 3/4
Lewdmil 2/4
Liter 1/4
Rapi none
Blanc 2/4
No OL or the rest

[keen vapor]

Just 3 complete?

[clever fox]

I'm a kinda casual and waifu collector:)

[keen vapor]

Sir, you can't go gaming with barely few overloads

[clever fox]

Gotcha who am I prioritizing then for OL

[keen vapor]

Even then, starting AI (Anomaly Interception) then immediately ending the fight is not that hard

[clever fox]

Ikwym

[quartz parcel]

Can someone help me out set an ATK team for SP arena im getting cooked really appreciate it

[keen vapor]

But attack depends on the target

[deft pelican]

Counter for this ?

[keen vapor]

That should be 4 RL

I'm guessing Noah, Jackal and Cinderella survive your nukes?

[swift mango]

He account is already lv bricked... If he got more units built at least we know he farmed interception lots.

[swift mango]

3rl

Could be faster with enough feed or cs

[tender valve]

https://tenor.com/view/emi-emilia-re-zero-emilia-best-girl-gif-19427204

[valid fern]

did they announce an official date yet for Champion Arena or is just "March" still

[swift mango]

March 7th 2030

[rich quail]

2035

It’s 2035

[swift mango]

2037

[rich quail]

I have proof

#pvp-arena message

Even Keripo said it

And we all love Keripo

[swift mango]

My proof is prettier

[rich quail]

So it had to be true

ARE YOU SAYING KERIPO ISN’T PRETTY?!!!!

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message

[rich quail]

Keripo > HSR girl

[spiral onyx]

I'm 17/F/Japan, uwu

[grand plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/freindo-kevin-theoffice-kevin-the-office-ate-too-much-gif-13442938

[eager mountain]

does 17 yr old type moon fan even exist

mostly at best gonna be only fgo fan somehow

[raven plover]

[wicked horizon]

No shot mans didn't get at least a couple of DMs from that message.

Is there hope for this somehow?

'cause I lost to them 3 days ago, and I think it might have been the same matchup.

[coarse lake]

I see 0 good defense teams there, should be ez

[wicked horizon]

Well, I lost last time, so evidently not ez.

The 450k team just CP gaps me, I'm afraid.

What do I do against Emilia?

[coarse lake]

make a 2rl nuke or a 4rl noah biscuit

[brazen ledge]

4rl easier imo

But dkw is still a questionnable choice

Same for modernia

[wicked horizon]

CP padding

[umbral belfry]

t1 jackal eating good with all that feed i fear

[wicked horizon]

T1 is lost anyways, I can't go against a 450k team.

[umbral belfry]

you can skip that one i guess?

[brazen ledge]

You can get to 300k without having to do cp padding against t4

[brazen ledge]

Not even eating good on t1, team has bad burst gen besides jackal

[umbral belfry]

yeah.

[wicked horizon]

And Jackal won't bind to P1 nor P2 so not much feed for her.

I still lose it though.

[umbral belfry]

I'm still too new to cook anything but hopefully you'll get help

[brazen ledge]

Ill be in the bus, if someone can send the burst gen spreadsheet so I can cook pls

And @wicked horizon send your box pls

[umbral belfry]

https://tinyurl.com/kosmiu-burst-gen-calc this?

[wicked horizon]

I win team 2 right now btw

[coarse lake]

literally just replace laplace with someone lower gen

[wicked horizon]

I think that's everyone of relevance.

But yeah, what Eon said, it's perhaps not that complicated that things need to be built from the ground up.

[brazen ledge]

Where’s your emilia ?

[coarse lake]

also stop running 3 teams if you know your first team loses due to cp diff

[wicked horizon]

I don't have an Emilia.

Day 1 knowledge diff.
I literally started playing mid-Re:Zero event so I had a week to figure out Emilia was needed. I didn't.

[coarse lake]

literally replace laplace with almost anyone else and you're at proper speed, not that complicated, only way you would lose is if biscuit can't live 4rl time

[wicked horizon]

Mhm, I'm working on finding substitutes.

And I'm not really running 3 teams. The first team is just auto-picked.

[coarse lake]

[wicked horizon]

Is it better if it's literally empty?

Off chance I somehow win with it, idk.

[coarse lake]

t1? currently it makes no difference

residual isn't a thing atm

[wicked horizon]

I don't see the problem then?

Residual?

[brazen ledge]

You could put ein instead of laplace

[coarse lake]

do you know how to use the burst gen calc?

this isn't really rocket science

[wicked horizon]

Yes, it's open right now, all my teams are already there.

[brazen ledge]

A bit of rocket still

[umbral belfry]

they're trying to say if you know you can't beat a team that's cp padded for example, put a random nikke there to 'skip' so you can focus on other 2 teams

[coarse lake]

if your biscuit can live to burst at 4rl time, just make the team 4rl and you'll be fine

[wicked horizon]

I figure as much, but I don't understand the idea behind "skipping".

[brazen ledge]

I put a nikke that I find good looking

[coarse lake]

I put lvl 1 crow

[brazen ledge]

I won’t say who it is

[wicked horizon]

Why not make a team that's as good as possible without compromising the 2 main teams?

[coarse lake]

what's the point

[brazen ledge]

It’s just useless

[wicked horizon]

I've had at least 1 occasion where somehow that team won, and one of the two other teams lost.

So that's at least 1 match I've won by "accident".

[coarse lake]

if you're trusting blind luck, then you gotta get better at cooking

[wicked horizon]

It's strictly not worse?

[brazen ledge]

Ig what you could do is put dkw in p5 and burst with liter in p3 where you have dkw

Should be around 4rl burst, check again

[coarse lake]

liter could brick his sanis enough to lose

[brazen ledge]

How ?

[coarse lake]

ammo

[wicked horizon]

Max ammo

[brazen ledge]

Oh I forgot this b**** gave max ammo

How’s the investment on your Sanis btw ?

[wicked horizon]

My highest CP unit

[brazen ledge]

Skills

[coarse lake]

Are you still considering what to do with t3 or something

[brazen ledge]

No

It’s pretty easy, he just has to see for his 4rl noah team, not much more to cook

[wicked horizon]

10/10/10, SR 15, OL gear, rolls not done

[brazen ledge]

Just asking bc I’m curious

[wicked horizon]

Nope, 4 RL didn't work.
Biscuit and DKW died between DKW's burst and Noah's burst. While I survived the big hit, Noah died shortly after and I couldn't finish them off.

[coarse lake]

Ok biscuit too squishy then, here's a question, what can you do to fix that

No one else answer, this is learning moment

[wicked horizon]

I can have Biscuit not be in P2

[coarse lake]

Correct

[wicked horizon]

Why'd D die?

[coarse lake]

Fire element, Emilia is water

[wicked horizon]

Why's Emilia hitting P3?

[coarse lake]

If d survival is issue, what can you do

Emi splash hits 3 nikkes

[wicked horizon]

Why's she special, wtf

[swift mango]

Wdym no good def? Try to use your 2RL Cindy against their T2.

[coarse lake]

That slow Moran comp? Gonna get deleted

[swift mango]

Try it

[wicked horizon]

Ye, I'mma be real, I don't know. I don't exactly have P6 and P7 to move everoyne out of the way, even if I can put someone expendable in the front.

Still, why is Emilia special? Rockets were supposed to hit only the target and 1 on each side?

[coarse lake]

Ig there's chance they double invuln and can burst, but Blanc Cindy still cleans that up ez

[wicked horizon]

I can... not use D

[coarse lake]

Your p5 is flex

[wicked horizon]

Yeah, but if they're going on P2, then...

[brazen ledge]

Check keripos tier list

Full explanation there

[coarse lake]

Nothing stopping you from using 2 b1s

Or simply put your b1 in p5 and a filler b2 non defender in p2

[wicked horizon]

I mean, D got her burst off, that wasn't the problem.

[wicked horizon]

Just says she has a bigger explosion radius, doesn't elaborate on it?

[coarse lake]

Nah that t2 can't even live no defense 2rl Cindy

Losing biscuit Sanis to nuke guarantees game will eos before they even b1

Invuln runs out long before

[swift mango]

So what do you think about

Scarlet+Blanc+Liter+Crown+Jackal to hit team 2?

As for team 3... Maybe

Noah+Naga+Biscuit+Alice+Rapipi

[coarse lake]

Technically yeah, but what if they get lucky with crit

[wicked horizon]

Maybe they did. 🤷

[coarse lake]

His t2 already wins, don't change

[wicked horizon]

It's over for today anyways, I'm out of tries.

[coarse lake]

Here's my advice on learning to cook for yourself: record all of your pvp fights, at least ones you haven't repeated already. Watch over recording, if win, figure out why, and if there is any rng factor that could result in loss. If loss, figure out why, and how to fix, then actually fix it.

[wicked horizon]

Weak team innit.

[coarse lake]

That's the fastest way to learn to cook, other methods aren't remotely close

If all you do is ask for help, and nothing else, you'll never be able to cook

Applies to everyone asking for help in this channel

[swift mango]

Noah+Crown+Biscuit+ASS+Rapipi

Should be fine vs team 3.

[coarse lake]

If you got questions on a fight, why you win, why you lose, that's a great time to ask for advice and learn, plus the vid let's ppl help you much more easily

[wicked horizon]

If they're still there tomorrow, I can try.

[coarse lake]

Use naga instead of crown to be safe, so Noah gets double invuln

[wicked horizon]

I used Naga on the losing fight just now btw

[coarse lake]

The one where biscuit died?

[wicked horizon]

Yes

[coarse lake]

Naga in p2 is to die in her place without using invuln

[swift mango]

Crown is better because she help wipe Emi team faster

Biscuit high chance to just ded before 2 proc on Noah anyway.

[coarse lake]

Yeah, but already wasting time from Noah invuln

[swift mango]

Like I said, you assuming too much on his p2-3 biscuit to survive against 40 lv gap Emi.

She wont

[coarse lake]

P2 died in about 4.5, p3 will be fine

Long enough for double

[wicked horizon]

I can put Biscuit on P5.
RRH is tankier and can probably survive.

[swift mango]

Rapipi is fire and Emi is Water

[coarse lake]

Rapipi sub dps also very useful

Esp against noise

[swift mango]

That's why I put Crown to buff both Rapi and Anis

[coarse lake]

Well it'll depend on if his Sanis can kill them fast enough

[wicked horizon]

I didn't get particularly close to killing them last time.

They all lived, some with not much HP, but still.

[coarse lake]

This is why I never use Sanis in atk smh, gotta worry about dmg output

[wicked horizon]

I'm still working on my Cindy team. 🤷

[coarse lake]

Emi, Bscar, Cindy, pick 2, deals with every situation

This is also why you should have recorded, so we know your Sanis output

[wicked horizon]

Speaking of SBS, how many targets does the 2nd hit of her skill hit?

Or the first? 🤔
Since it's not really a rocket launcher?

[coarse lake]

First combo is 1, second is also 1 I think, third is all

[valid fern]

what does "enemies within attack range" mean here? like drakes burst and sr anis burst

[coarse lake]

Not that it matters really

[wicked horizon]

Damn, can't even hit regular RL splash range with 2nd skill hit.

[coarse lake]

Usually means the enemy they're targeting in pvp

Drake burst is basically ST

[valid fern]

i c

[swift mango]

S.Anis is his highest CP unit

If not CP gapped, Alice will be better...

With Naga instead of crown, it's 4tl.

With Crown+ASS, it's 4.5rl

With Crown+Alice, it's 5rl.

@wicked horizon pick whichever work for you.

[coarse lake]

I don't trust Alice dps, esp low sync unbuffed

Not that I trust Sanis that much either

[swift mango]

Well, depending on his investment on Alice.

Could use SBS easily but you said, don't change

[wicked horizon]

They might not be there tomorrow, y'know, no use thinking too hard about it anymore.

[coarse lake]

Sbs won't work without buffer

Noise noah Rapunzel is too much stall

Sanis at least should kill emi decently fast

After that... Who knows

[swift mango]

If ASS isn't at least 8/x/9, Crown could help her reach 100% reload speed.
.
And according to some guides, she benefit from Reload % up to 109%-111% something. Which she can't reach with skill and resilience alone. But need unit like crown anyway.

[wicked horizon]

Very cool.
I will try the team if I have to fight them again.

[swift mango]

Real saviors of Elysion town are Mast and Anchor, not Rapipi

[coarse lake]

B in pvp....

What crown's tier

[swift mango]

A, ma bad

[coarse lake]

... That's a fair rating ig

[swift mango]

ASS is SSS though.

[coarse lake]

Imo that's too high, but I'm quite biased against Sanis

[swift mango]

Cindy and ASS should be at least same tier.

[coarse lake]

Ig they rate having good followup dmg quite high

[swift mango]

Well, Arena is very bracket dependant

Rheax said the CN rate S.Sakura quite high, only worse than Scarlet. At least equivalent to SS on Prydwen.

[coarse lake]

[swift mango]

She could snipe RH before she burst with enough investment I guess.

[coarse lake]

On atk sure, on def... Idk, but then again we basically see no ssakura in EN servers

[swift mango]

I have her 577, but haven't used her since I got Cindy

+SR lv5 doll

[coarse lake]

I used her on debut raid, that it

[swift mango]

I could try

Scarlet+S.Sakura+RH+Rossanna+Jackal for funsie.

Guess who is the B3 in this team.?

[coarse lake]

Your ssakura higher atk? That's cursed

Ig both could be unlinked

[covert lintel]

is this real

[swift mango]

Certainly

Mast+Anchor are Saviors of Elysion Town. With Rapipi as well, Elysion Town is basically easy mode comparing to Missilis and Tetra then.

[covert lintel]

isn't Thelm the savior

[swift mango]

The other savior

The smallest one.

I would rate

Mast+Anchor > Rapipi > DKW > HelmT > The rest of Ely Town.

[covert lintel]

mpriv still in my heart

[coarse lake]

Ingrid learned to cook

[eager mountain]

xmaiden kinda saved it, both burst gen and snipe

[swift mango]

Just to be power crept by HelmT

[eager mountain]

thelm was good as offburst but maids will take that spot so maybe only as b3 when full trasured against boss

[eager mountain]

helmt is off burst so theres no power crept

[swift mango]

Helm burst deal like 10000%

[eager mountain]

rapi is just so much better then dkw consider ely has no piercer so shes mostly better off as b1 there

[swift mango]

Good snipe.

[eager mountain]

and thus only bossing stages

[coarse lake]

Doesn't always target boss afaik

[swift mango]

Rapi is best burst 3 in Elysion by like 10 heavens above.

No reason to use her as B1.

[eager mountain]

personally ely tower will be rapi + maids + xmaiden + mpriv for mob clear or thelm for bossing, subject to change

[coarse lake]

[eager mountain]

she does like half of the dmg even as b1, and her cdr is much better, shes surprusingly optimal as b1 there, tho b3 def works well as well

[swift mango]

Until they released more good B3 Elysion at less.

[swift mango]

Well, if you don't like DKW Rapipi could work.

[eager mountain]

dkw contribute pretty much nothing but raw cdr thats worse then rapi's cdr so

[swift mango]

But they provide about the same buffs for others as B1.

[eager mountain]

mpriv still good for mob wipe, xmaiden can snipe target, all u need for mob stages, rapi b3 without an optimal b1 might do less then double dmg then when shes b1

[swift mango]

Rapipi raw dmg as B1 isn't that high, unless 4 other units are all buffer

Could work in Elysion I guess

[eager mountain]

its really high lol.... high enough to run her as b1 in AI indivilia instead of b3

and actually somehow better off as b1 there

[swift mango]

We have much better Fire B3 then Elysion B3.

That's no argument.

[eager mountain]

but AI indivilia also has better b1 option to start with, it was still liter if u can live as her, but dkw is much better there compared to ely tower since since both fire b3 before rapi are piercers

[swift mango]

The pierce buff from DKW is minimal anyway. And only buff Alice and herself. Not Grave or Asuka.

Rapipi buff is a little better plus MG combo well with Grave bonus burst gen.

Grave+Asuka+Rei.A are also hyper Fire buffer.

You don't even need Alice if you want to semi auto.

[eager mountain]

but yeah i mostly thinking of using rapi b3 in ely tower when bossing, the part id doubt using her as b1 there
mob stages, her b1 value is quite high, tho maybe b3 is better in some base defense stages

i cant s7 if i auto

having better b3 options also doesnt really puts her as a better off as b1 neither, since she has relatively low buff to make b3 carry hard but made up every buff lost with insane damage as b1, tho for ely tower the major thing is that neither dkw nor pre-maid b2 does any real buff to rapipi

so maybe maids can change that so that running dkw no longer means theres barely any buff

[swift mango]

Anyway, I guess Helm would need 20%+ CS the most out of all Nikke right now.

[eager mountain]

yep else her 5sec last bullet buff will drop even with max reload buff if running auto

[swift mango]

Otherwise, you would have to manual her to keep s1 up.

And lose some full charge dmg.

[eager mountain]

u kinda wanna manual her a bit during burst to get that buff stacking the whole time

assuming shes not bursting

[swift mango]

with mast+Anchor+Resilience she should have 100% reload speed.

So all she would need is that 20-25% CS to fly.

And zero Ammo ofc...

[eager mountain]

expensive

17% is already expensive unless ignoring atk elem rolled in the middle of rolling cs

[grand plaza]

This won't last long but feels good

[swift mango]

Maybe

HelmT+Privaty+Mast+Anchor+Rapipi would be cheaper.

You would need to roll CS for her in Arena anyway.

Watch Keripo to be the first have 25% CS HelmT

[eager mountain]

ah, the 1.5rl

[quick lake]

I think need ele on THelm, cause THelm actually good water dps

[strong hull]

[swift mango]

I think I need Ele on THelm, because CP pad in Arena need Ele.

[eager mountain]

im rolling elem for mc s9, and might need more rocks on rapipi if im stuck in feb hard ch, is my thelm bricked

[valid fern]

im just realizing, Viper is kinda lit.

better version of Noir in most cases.

[eager mountain]

what did noir do to u

[swift mango]

Noir broke his Pelvis.

Viper gonna break it again, though. 😭

Such is life

[swift mango]

Man... This is tough...

Such is the story of my reroll life.

Want CS, get the perfect line for DPS and slot 1 CS instead.

10 rock gone just like that.

[crystal flicker]

always has been

[strange quail]

Any tips to beat 1 of those 2 teams ?
I tried 2RL Cindy for team 1 but their Blanc bursted -> lose
I tried to set up Emilia + RH delayed burst for T2 but she can't kill the tanky Noah

I don't have Noah

their 3rd team I can use CP decifit to win

[swift mango]

I'm going to need to lock CS and waste another 20 rock to fish 3 lines for her.

Gonna waste around 50-100 rock on Jackal just to get her to decently good, when others can just 20% CS 12 lines her with 4 rock.

[crystal flicker]

just reroll, L1 isn't worth it

[tropic summit]

oh no, don't tell me i've to get them afterall, i wanted to skip

[swift mango]

Then waste another 20 rock for line 1 CS again.

No thanks.

[swift mango]

Just don't do Ely town

[swift mango]

I have more chance to get random line 2-3 wasting 2 rock per roll, than rolling 1 rock fishing for line2-3 CS

Then reroll for 3 line anyway.

[crystal flicker]

tbh I don't understand how 2RL Cindy lose from that team (If it's really 2RL), and isn't you just beat the similar team with T2 few days ago with Emi Blanc RH?

[strange quail]

Hmm I will recheck if it is really 2RL or not

[glad meteor]

Cindy hits are slow

And jackal link

[strange quail]

And I also don't understand how my RH buffed Emi can't kill their Noah

I guess it is time to get Emi burst to 10 then

currently 4 7 7

[glad meteor]

I usually emi blanc rh crown jackal. Haven’t lost yet

Triple buffer

Oh wait

They’re 4rl

[tropic summit]

@rustic sandal we probably need to review your def if this guy is beating you, p.s. you can likely beat him back later after reset

if you're fine with it (don't wanna be meddlesome), post your box with nikke ordered by strength and ping me, let's see what we can improve 🤔

[strange quail]

Yeah turn out my team was 2.5RL all along 😭

needs 3 quantum cube on that team ftw

[rustic sandal]

Alright! I'll do that as soon as am home, also yeah my defense is not great I should have adjusted it

[frank ingot]

To anyone using NIKKE Deck, is the 17% for noah here means that the rl charge speed % should be at 17 from OL equipments?

[swift mango]

Yeah. If you got to 17% with Adjustant cube then just don't equip cube on her.

[swift mango]

Did you use SG in your 2RL Cindy? It would make Jackal team 2.5RL. If you Cindy isn't strong enough to one shot their team in her first 5 attacks Blanc could somehow trigger and screw you... There is also a chance your team isn't exactly 2rl. Or Either Centi/Jackal has 20% Charge speed or more.

For that tanky Cindy team it's normal that your Cindy lose to it...

Especially if they out level, CP gap you.

[swift mango]

Okay, 2.5RL mean you likely used Shotgun in your team. That make it pretty much 2.5rl vs 2.5rl.

[swift mango]

U sure it's just Noah left on the field when you lose?

[strange quail]

Yes that is the case

I also make sure my Emi big bomb hit them after Noah skill ended

[swift mango]

What team did you use?

[strange quail]

classic Blanc Emi RH Biscuit Razpunzel

[swift mango]

Could ur Emi survive without Rapunzel?

Until Blanc? If she could, replace rapu with Crown.

[strange quail]

I am not sure tho, she is geared 3-2-2-2 with lv5 purple doll

maybe I will try again tmr

[swift mango]

Also, you could use a buffed 3rl Cindy team to wipe their Cindy team.

Sth like this...

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/let-him-cook-cook-cookin-big-wok-gif-83777501272147017

[tender valve]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-mechanic-meha-boom-gif-20969602

[crystal flicker]

dang, now I want fried rice

[rustic sandal]

@tropic summit I'm starting to invest on my Centi and Jackal also

[crystal flicker]

Invest to Rumani and Anis(SR) too

[lilac pier]

What site/tool is this?

[frank ingot]

It's in the pins

#pvp-arena message

[lilac pier]

Oh its pretty new i guess, always used those spreadsheets

[frank ingot]

around november 2024 iirc

[glad meteor]

Gib Scar

[glad meteor]

Can’t use noir and sanis together

Xmaiden probably good there

[glad meteor]

What if noah invul and noise b1 goes off, cindy decoy will tank nuke

[frank ingot]

ohh yeah mb

still building xmaiden, thanks

[swift mango]

Well, if both team are really 1rl apart Rapunzel and Noise would die before they burst.

[glad meteor]

true

[swift mango]

Could vary with CS on both team.

[glad meteor]

Yeah, wonder if opp has cs

Also there’s an order of hits

[swift mango]

Guess better to not use Crown then

[rustic sandal]

[brazen ledge]

uh i think theres a problem with my def teams because i can climb to c5, i think i could even go to c3, but i go back to diamond 1 until next reset, help

[glad meteor]

No blanc

[brazen ledge]

ye the teams are strange, last one was for cp padding and ppl here told me to do these teams before

[glad meteor]

Understandable. 2 Good teams and auto

[brazen ledge]

like i can't do better than that ?

[glad meteor]

You can

I don’t usually cook defence

Maybe someone can make a spreadsheet of def teams and create filters and stuff one day for sp

[keen vapor]

Why this true

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

[tender valve]

step by step we belive you can

[dusk kayak]

I need help building a special arena team. I've been coasting on rank 4 and 5 attacking the same guy every time he attacks me but now I can't beat his team

Is there like a spreadsheet or something I can use

[dusk kayak]

What are these from? Is it for pvp team building

Oh I found the nikke deck website but idk what all these numbers mean

[brazen ledge]

I have everyone

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc sbs noir jackal
naga centi cind emi liter
noah biscuit s.anis rh laplace+

cubes

quantum on jackal, centi
vigor on biscuit
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis. s.anis must be lvl 9 burst
any other nikke run highest available lvl cube

notes1: build up your centi and jackal, followed by emilia, noise and rumani
notes2: as for picture provided, aim for the team in the table on the right, your ultimate goal is going to aim for the teams provided in the table in the bottom, although it will take you time to get there

[tropic summit]

are laplace/helm treasured?

[tropic summit]

T1: unbuffed indomless scarlet
T2: noise is sort of wasted here
T3: high feed, indomless sbs (although it looks like you just wanted to CP pad)

[brazen ledge]

Laplace is treasured, helm not yet

[tropic summit]

question was for ziir though, the other one was for you

[brazen ledge]

Oh yes

And so what are better def teams I could do ?

[tropic summit]

need your box for that

although i think i made ur teams b4? 🤔

[hollow summit]

is shotgun mayhem as T3 def okay

i put Noise, BSoda, Naga, Drake (not treasured), Noir

[rustic sandal]

Thank you

[hollow summit]

i just want CP padding

[tropic summit]

to get scarlett'ed yes, just do that when desperate

[hollow summit]

hmm as scarlet team bait

[tropic summit]

well opponent gonna need to beat then just 1 team, not sure it's a solid plan

if i were you i'd avoid a full SG team

keep in mind full SG is also weak to defender + biscuit

[hollow summit]

my rests are

• noah-biscuit-sanis-helm-rumani
• scarlet-blanc-centi-redhood-jackal

i guess i need fix my 2nd team because prone against noah 2rl team

put emilia in 2nd then

[tropic summit]

hmm i feel like helm is kind of wasted with s.anis tho 🤔

[tender valve]

alternative def

[hollow summit]

my last team put emilia on sanis team

so should i put helm on scarlet, and emilia on sanis

replace red hood

[tender valve]

&

[tropic summit]

depends on what you gonna go, but s.anis works best in "slower" teams, e.g. 3RL or 4RL(not on def), you want helm meanwhile to get a team into 2RL quite easily

hence why helm will work great on cindy, who's starved for burst gen

either that or on a very quick scarlet team

2 examples of 2RL (they're standalone)

alternative with indom oriented scarlet 2RL

the risk of running that is that the enemy would rather skip it and fight other 2 teams, although

keep in mind your defense is essentially as effective as your 2 worst teams

[coarse lake]

If running 2rl scar you wanna use rosa

Otherwise the typical 2rl scar counters still work perfectly fine

[tropic summit]

wait i'm missing b2 🤔

[hollow summit]

blanc as burst 2

[tropic summit]

you hitting 2RL with feed?

[coarse lake]

Need buff for scar as well

[hollow summit]

i just don't have resource to build rossana

skil 7-7-7 right?

[tropic summit]

my rosanna is in a similar situation

[unkempt kestrel]

Is 2RL sanis worse than 3RL sanis?

[hollow summit]

slower anis i can run moran-biscuit-sanis-laplace-maiden

but i still not sure because noah unprotected in other team

[tropic summit]

depends on your opponents, although it's harder to counter if anything

[unkempt kestrel]

I’ve set up my team with helm in my sanis team so that it becomes 2Rl

[hollow summit]

but yeah every defense has counter

[coarse lake]

2rl sanis if using noah is fine

imo better than 3rl or slower sanis

[tropic summit]

keep in mind there's a risk that opponent will skip that team and you've wasted resources to make it a 2RL

so always judge based on what you know what they might have to use

[unkempt kestrel]

No Noah tho

[coarse lake]

if no noah then it's whatever, regardless of speed

sanis kills too slow to be an effective no-defense 2rl dps

[hollow summit]

so i think my team defense would be like this

• Noah-Biscuit-SAnis-Emilia-Rumani
• Scarlet-Blanc-Centi-Helm-Jackal

my opponent i think they will skip scarlet team

so attacking my noah and T3 team

[tropic summit]

they seem pretty good, what's ur leftover 3rd team?

[brazen ledge]

I still don’t have helm treasure

[hollow summit]

gonna be SG team or RL team

• Noise-Bsoda-Naga-Noir-Drake
• Noise-Maiden-Mari-Laplace-Rapunzel

viper phase 3 so no the option

[tender valve]

ganbatte

[tropic summit]

oof that's fairly weak

[hollow summit]

lack of good burst 2

makima gaming again

[tropic summit]

still feed heavy, but a better B3 and actually buffed by noise, probably lower CP due to anis tho

p2 could be sort of flex, since you've B2 covered either way by anis... although you can't run B3 or B1 because you want cindy and noise to burst, also needs to let you hit 3RL

oh but you've rapu open 🤔

works as a backup if noise dies

feed is also limited to viper

[coarse lake]

why viper

[tropic summit]

any B2 really, but he needs the burst gen

[glad meteor]

Scar jack bait

[tropic summit]

assuming he wont touch the other 2 teams anyway

[coarse lake]

not sure why you're doing 2rl sanis and 3rl cindy instead of the other way around, but ok

[glad meteor]

Maybe they lose gen by p2 death

[tropic summit]

well yeah i'm just following up with their ideas

was working with what they said:

[glad meteor]

Put helm p3

[brazen ledge]

No replacement ?

[tropic summit]

that's what we said earlier but he wanted s.anis on faster team 🤔

and then running T3 with SGs spam

[glad meteor]

Position 3, p3 can get indom sometimes against emi if p1 jackal linked

Scar blanc rh helmt jackal pretty close to 2 RL

[tender valve]

p1 bay - (centi -> helm)

[brazen ledge]

Just gonna go for these for the moment

[hollow summit]

hmm 3rl

[glad meteor]

Through feed

Plus rh rng double hit if she hit’s cover

I might run this one day

No Lap+ Xanne Scar

[tropic summit]

is that T3 resistant to 2RL SBS noah?

[coarse lake]

[tropic summit]

[coarse lake]

well the other 2 are decent enough that it could work out

[tropic summit]

wow for eon to say a def team is decent, you won lottery already @glad meteor

[hollow summit]

hmm replacing sanis with cindy still 2,5RL hmm

[swift mango]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[hollow summit]

i see

problem is yeah lack of CP because Anis

burst 2 where are you

[hollow summit]

if Emilia 21% CS

[tropic summit]

ready to throw some rocks at her?

[hollow summit]

hmm i just test

replacing Centi with Maiden works, 2RL

so Scarlet-Blanc-Maiden-Helm-Jackal

Maiden is defender, so jackal links Scarlet and Helm

[hollow summit]

my Emi are 20% (lv10 skill1 and OL, put cube at least 21%)

need throw rocks

[tropic summit]

oh noice

yeah with adjutant you won't need more rocks at least

[hollow summit]

gonna do this

• Noah-Biscuit-Cinderella-Emilia-Rumani
• Scarlet-Blanc-Maiden-Helm-Jackal
• Noise-SAnis-Laplace-Centi-Rapunzel

[swift mango]

My Anis is lv60 and I don't have a lack of CP

But it's understandable, my union leader also doesn't build his Anis.

Poor SR Anis.

[tropic summit]

t1 and t2 is fine... but s.anis team is gonna take a while to get going

also cindy gets buffed better with noise

[hollow summit]

i see

HP

[tropic summit]

yup cindy scales with HP

[hollow summit]

if i put Cindy on T3, then who's on P2

Centi or other?

rapunzel

[tropic summit]

hmm i'd do this with your T3, with your as-is composition

[swift mango]

I reaally doubt team 1 could hit 2rl...

Team 3 is pretty much f2lose.

Team 2 is 2rl? I used to use something similar I guess. Could work.

[tropic summit]

centi in p2 is generally safe and shouldn't die, being iron and also a defender

[swift mango]

Yeah, Centi is safe but the whole team isn't.

[tropic summit]

we're assuming they really want to run those teams, i'm not judging

as K and Eon stated previously, there were better options 🤔

[hollow summit]

hmm what is it?

but i guess every defense has counter

as you can see the comp before attacking

the best defense is CP diff

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

#pvp-arena message

#pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

yeah, 100% agree

[dusk kayak]

No but I think I'm going to get helm treasured

[swift mango]

2.5rl top, usable.

[tropic summit]

taking a look then

[coarse lake]

there are always counters, but 99.99% of pvp ppl cannot figure out every counter

[hollow summit]

my team each are 920k pos 7

my bracket mostly 900k-1007k per team

[dusk kayak]

I read some info about what 2rl etc mean

I think I've been coasting on just slamming the highest cp teams

[pseudo arch]

Would anyone help me create 3 sp defense teams I finally have scarlet

[hollow summit]

i just need to defend against 900k-1000k in pos7

pos6 now 1010k

[swift mango]

You don't need to figure out every counter. You only need to figure out you opponent team.

[hollow summit]

i ask new def comp because i just treasured Helm today

gave me more option

[swift mango]

You should be fine if you could build those teams I guess.

Team 3 just need to be there. Doesn't need to win.

[hollow summit]

baiting enemy scarlet team hehehe

[tropic summit]

ein blanc sbs noir jackal
noise centi cind alice rumani
noah rapu s.anis rh xmaiden

cubes:

quantum on jackal, centi
vigor on rapu, blanc, noise
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis, s.anis must be burst lvl 9 minimun
run highest lvl cube for anyone else

notes:

wishlist biscuit and scarlet, consider building helmT asap

get teams reviewed once biscuit/helmT are ready

[swift mango]

Good luck

[dusk kayak]

Scarlet is the only pilgrim I don't have 😦

[dusk kayak]

Thanks saving this for later after work

[swift mango]

Nice flex bro.

[tropic summit]

laplace/helm treasured?

[pseudo arch]

Laplace t3 helm is sr 10

[swift mango]

Oops wrong people.

[swift mango]

Good luck to us both brotha

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc rh emilia jackal
noise centi cind sbs rumani
noah biscuit rapu s.anis la+

cubes:

quantum on jackal, centi
vigor on noise, biscuit, rapu, blanc
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis, s.anis must be burst lvl 9 at least

notes: consider getting helmT asap to upgrade T2
notes2: check alternative T1 until scarlet is properly built

[pseudo arch]

Ty

[eternal finch]

Nah, didn't work. I think the CP difference is giving too much of a dissadvantage

[swift mango]

What didn't work? Your team 2 aren't at 15.4% deficit in this pic.

[coarse lake]

where vid

[swift mango]

All 3 of your team were beleow 15.4% deficit here.

[hollow summit]

Emilia 21% is S1+OLs right

my S1 lv10 so 13%, rests comes from OL

my Emilia OL are 1,98+3,45+4,05

[swift mango]

There were basically zero CP disadvantage in the match up you showed.

There is some level disadvantage though. But shouldn't be that threatening without deficit. May mind if LapT and Emilia could kill your p1-2-3 that's all

[jagged sedge]

lol camped my spot by with 2 seconds remaining.

[swift mango]

RIP

Now either you camp them back or gemming

[jagged sedge]

well they hate spending gems so I pretty much have this spot. Unless I pissed them off. lol.

I would be pissed as hell right now if I was him.

I meant I secured my spot. Dude tried to take it with 30 seconds remaining

[eternal finch]

Dang, maybe the 50/50 hit bad on both occasions

[swift mango]

Oh shitte... You rat them not gotten rat by them. Misunderstood.

[dusk kayak]

I need helm 3* to treasure?

[swift mango]

2*

[jagged sedge]

yea

wait 2 star?

I thought it was 3

[swift mango]

Common mistake

[dusk kayak]

Does helm show up in ticket shop

[swift mango]

Should be

[brazen ledge]

Doesn’t need to

You can buy her every time with the treasure thingy

[rustic sandal]

How to beat this

[tropic summit]

do you've emilia?

[rustic sandal]

Ye but indom Emilia barely wins

50/50

[tropic summit]

use either of these

your team is on the left

[rustic sandal]

Ya I think crown would boost chances

[eager mountain]

triple buffed emi

[tropic summit]

crown is fine in this use case because you're hitting unlinked p1 (it's very unlikely rh and s.anis aren't 1st and 2nd highest atk%)

[eager mountain]

their noah is c6 tho, only need 14ish extra atk line to link instead of sanis

[tropic summit]

if they achieved that, that's true dedication

[eager mountain]

but even if thats somehow the case he should prob know whos linked ig

[glad meteor]

Biscuit jackal interaction is partly a problem for indom emi

[tropic summit]

yeah reduces the dmg of quite a bit

surely triple buffed should do it... right?

else i need to start considering biscuit + jackal teams

[eager mountain]

[cedar orbit]

when are they going to update special arena to just give out 3000 gems every 2 weeks?

[tropic summit]

but then the whales won't get their drug of feeling special sitting on ch1 since 9 months

[eager mountain]

and thus they stop whaling and SU bankrupt instantly

[upper grove]

left is my team, right is opponent: is my team fast enough with jackal feed? idk if unbuffed scar nuke is enough though

[cedar orbit]

they can whale for champion arena

[eager mountain]

more then enough

in almost all senarios, p1 linked means at least 3.55% feed, rosa wont stop that 3.55%, only full SR team with an alice wont feed in 2rl at all

[cedar orbit]

even without Jackal feed it would be enough

[upper grove]

they put cindy P2

it's just rookie but I'm experimenting a bit

[tropic summit]

1.25x burst gen against cindy p2

they even helpin' you if anything

[cedar orbit]

dude who keeps hitting me also put Cindy on P2

I'm literally losing defense to ppl who put Cindy on P2

[tropic summit]

add him on discord and tell him he's doing it all wrong

should put cindy in p1

[cedar orbit]

he is probably being monitored by the ccp

[tropic summit]

oh it's a red soldier

[eager mountain]

p1p2 cindy vs p1p3p5 rouge

[tropic summit]

amen

[eager mountain]

who wins

[cedar orbit]

you always put b1 into p1

[eager mountain]

i afraid im also monitored by the ccp already i had chinese app in my phone

[tropic summit]

imagine having a chinese phone, auto subscribed to any kind of advertisment and called daily 2-3 times

[eager mountain]

they force you to install "anti-fraud" app in those phones btw

[tropic summit]

rootkits?

[eager mountain]

when the anti-fraud app itself is pretty much rootkits+spyware lol

[tropic summit]

i think most ppl probably owned a device with a miner installed at least once in their life

[cedar orbit]

our pc is probably part of a botnet

[tropic summit]

there could be CCP spies right here, right now, among us, lowering our social credit

my personal stalker for example

[eager mountain]

not miranda?

[glad meteor]

We rich

[strange rain]

can someone help me counter this guy ? is it possible ?

[tropic summit]

if you didn't tell us that was a person we'd assume it was a bot 🤨

those are one of the worst teams i've seen in a while

your main issue there is just being CP padded tho

what's their 3rd team btw?

[tropic summit]

try these teams then take screenshot and show us CP

[strange rain]

Thanks just a sec

[strange rain]

This is the third team

But low on cp :/

[tropic summit]

yeah ok beyond ur reach, stick to the other 2

[shell hazel]

Railtracer please send me doll mats and skill books so I can get Helm ready for pvp 😄

[tropic summit]

best i can do is send thoughts & prayers

[shell hazel]

https://tenor.com/view/laios-laios-touden-blond-blonde-armor-gif-3666604462354658660

[strange rain]

Modernia can add to cp but idk if shes can be used here

[shell hazel]

rough with that level gap

[tropic summit]

nah you're cut off, too much CP difference, ignore him

fight someone else until you're stronger

[strange rain]

I dont have anyone else

[shell hazel]

what rank are you?

[tropic summit]

well then you're high enough

dude is prolly whaling/dolphin a bit, unless you've not kept up with campaign

[strange rain]

Challenger 4

[shell hazel]

you should be able to fight anyone in 1-3 I think?

[tropic summit]

ye but others are probably worse off than that guy

[shell hazel]

4 is pretty good anyway

2700 gems vs 3000 if you can hold it

[tropic summit]

yup, ch4 is pretty gud result

[shell hazel]

better you have solid def setup

[strange rain]

Hes 700 brackets before me lol

[tropic summit]

time traveller

[strange rain]

These is the third place

This guy first

[shell hazel]

how do you mean 700 brackets?

[strange rain]

He is from server 24644
Im in server 25389

[shell hazel]

oh wasn't sure how that worked

earlier number = earlier starter?

[tropic summit]

still CP deficit

[tropic summit]

yep deficit here too

[strange rain]

Yep thats how its working

[shell hazel]

that is quite a jump

most of my sp arena is close to me

[strange rain]

Gotcha oh well time to ideal till enoguh core dust to pass that 120 🥲

[shell hazel]

not sure how many numbers means what though 😄

[strange rain]

Thats an insane jump lol

[tropic summit]

yup, hopefully at reshuffle, which is coming near end of this month, maybe you will get isekaied in a better bracket

[shell hazel]

i'm 23458 and guy above me is 23452

[strange rain]

Yep thats how is supposed to be.
Are u in global?

[shell hazel]

yes

I got the impression he was a week or two before me but could also be a re-roller who knows what they are doing

[strange rain]

Prolly

[shell hazel]

full 10 levels above me

and I've not skipped really anything

[strange rain]

U got boxes ?

[shell hazel]

nah I used them all

I need levels 😄

I'm chill in 2nd here still, not been moved around in a while

4-5-6 changes quite a bit but 1-2-3 hasn't moved lately

doing what I can to keep the levels spinning but yeah they 20 commander levels above me + 10 unit levels (i'm 230 they're 240) so even if I can beat them now, they get a CP boost in 1 more level

[strange rain]

Would you say its worth for me to pull on wishlist with gems ? Based on my mlb and units

[shell hazel]

eva collab coming

could be some decent pvp units in the new ones

[strange rain]

To get ready for 160 i got 300 pity in the liter naga alice thing and silver 400 tickets

[shell hazel]

you get a selector at 141

notably Alice is in that

[strange rain]

Ye but my prio should be 160

[strange rain]

141 what levels ?

[tropic summit]

well the sooner you cross lvl 160 wall, the less bricked you'll be

[shell hazel]

my meaning is you can pull random units at the same time, it's not targeted

but you could get a decent unit or two along the way as well

[strange rain]

Ill prob get to 160 before eva collab

[shell hazel]

yeah first unit you get to 141 gives you a selector

[strange rain]

I aint gonna stay at 160 to wait for eva

[shell hazel]

it's basically the same as the silver mileage (from what I can tell) but it also has Alice in it

so you can plan to get an extra copy of Alice that way for MLB and I think it's probably the best use for it, plus Alice is decent in general

[strange rain]

Hmm if i get an alice from that i should be mlb naga mlb lite mlb alice

Rouge is in lb2

[shell hazel]

you need to plan that out a bit but you can also pull the trigger on all at once if you can

except silver mileage shop changes about daily, but the list of who can show up is known

trigger your selector + 100 pt exchanges + silver mileage when you know what you need

[strange rain]

If only i could get 1 more copy of ein or noir man

I would be golden

[shell hazel]

do also bear in mind that even at 160 you need enough core dust to smash through it

[strange rain]

True

[shell hazel]

what is your top nikkes sorted by limit break now?

[shell hazel]

naga liter alice all look doable but yeah, 2 more needed

no one else really close

[strange rain]

I mean if i pull another 100 i could get 2 alice from pity

And break with millage

[tropic summit]

wishlist rouge also for the copium 3rd dupe

RNG might bless you

[strange rain]

Ye shes on there from the start lol

Shes alo not that bad no ? At least with blanc

[tropic summit]

rouge is meta on raid teams in fact

[shell hazel]

best use of 141 selector still Alice in my view, but there are other units there

as she isn't in silver mileage

and yes she is in 100 pt exchange but... you need more liter/naga still

how many 100 pt things can you use?

[strange rain]

5/6

So i could get alice to core 1 in the end

[shell hazel]

you've got 5 unnused ones?

[strange rain]

Mhm

[shell hazel]

then you could pivot and core Alice/Liter/Naga without the 141 selector, but the list of units in there isn't super amazing

and didn't contain Noir etc

breaking 160 wall with MLB is a good goal but I'd potentially wait longer, wait until you need to break it

[strange rain]

No pvp units ?

Centi or jackle ?

[shell hazel]

don't spend gems, see if you luck into other units

tower molds

friendship recruits

[strange rain]

Ye for now its idling

[shell hazel]

when you're near 160 you can then decide what you need to swap better

[strange rain]

The sec i have enough core dust im popping all in hopes to break it prob

[shell hazel]

you might be able to see it in the game, if the mission or challenge is present for it

then you can see who is possible to select

it will say along the lines of "get nikke to level 141"

[strange rain]

Ye i see it

[shell hazel]

it's also spare body only

[strange rain]

But its only the spare body

[shell hazel]

so not the unit itself yeah

[strange rain]

Ye exactly

So ye prob alice

[shell hazel]

I thought it was good but it depends, if you can MLB her with 100 pts that might be better

if you can do that for all 3 units then you can use this for someone else, who you might need it for in a pinch

[strange rain]

Mm time will show us ig heh

[shell hazel]

I tend to open crates only when I get stuck in campaign, and only for what I need, I don't open credit cases anymore 😛

but battle data and core dust I am as I can swap bd for core dust

[summer copper]

how do we go about buffing cinderella's damage in this mode?

[nimble portal]

Hello guys, can I have a working burst gen calculator?
The calculator on pin is not working, or please kindly dm me to teach me how to use it
Thank you

[quick lake]

Make a copy of the sheet, Should be able to work

Otherwise use this also:

https://nikke-deck.web.app

[nimble portal]

Thank you

[quick lake]

Typically Noise buffer. Other buffers like like RH works as well

[summer copper]

Emilia is using RH, so i guess it's up to Noise

[quick lake]

Cindy can work without buffer too

[summer copper]

she hasn't worked in any rookie tests for me so far though

[tropic summit]

doll lvl?
affection?
OLs? Atk%?
Skill lvls?

[summer copper]

i can get her to burst and hit pretty hard, but not kill, unless the opponent is significantly lower leveled

doll is SR 13, affection 40, attack ols is only 4.77%, skill 10/8/10
so probably need to reroll for some attacks then

[brazen ledge]

How much charge speed on ol ?

[summer copper]

whatever 2.28+3.45 is

[tropic summit]

yeah you only missing on the extra atk%, rest is fine 🤔

[brazen ledge]

You need 21% with ol+1st skill+ cube if needed

[summer copper]

21 charge speed on cinderella? what would that do?

[brazen ledge]

No on emilia

[summer copper]

Emilia is fine, she's got that and more

[still oxide]

Team recommendations for Rookie and Special Arena for some reasons i keep loosing to lower lvl units than mine

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[tropic summit]

centi cind alice anis noise
scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
crown liter sbs biscuit xmaiden (CP padded temp team)

cubes (when available)

quantum on anis, centi, jackal
vigor on blanc, biscuit, noise
any other nikke run highest lvl cube available

wishlist/build: invest on the nikke provided in the table
wishlist noah, add anis to synchro and invest minimun to use her as battery temporarely and until rumani is built
aim to get Helm Treasured

[eager mountain]

the evolving rail cook

[sinful berry]

There's like 8 Aarons in this discord, no idea which one this is lol

[eager mountain]

could be me

[tropic summit]

could be any of us

[quasi prism]

Finished my first treasure today 🙂

https://i.gyazo.com/25519302fe72fe1443f79f925a932d34.jpg

[quasi prism]

I'm working on helm now, then drake.

[still oxide]

Thank you

[shell hazel]

oh I almost forgot I can get the tempering cube I think now from the lost sector

is that good/useful for pvp?

[eager mountain]

really good but lol unless ur really into pvp not much point invest much on temper imo

[shell hazel]

I need to go do the lost sector itself though 😄

[eager mountain]

ive made a major mistake, rapi b3 explosion buff is more than solid for mob wipe, likely tested in a bad stage where her aoe isnt effective and concluded shes not that great at wiping, so no need of mpriv if its for wipe, 2 elem advantage (wind/elec) target sniping prob better than maiden, especially considering running maids meaning no b3 offburst for stacking maiden mp to workaround for omega target snipe, while rapi can still manual 99% charge right before target appears

[eager mountain]

tho temper is the only cube that doesnt come with a battery stage

[shell hazel]

hmm you mean for some extra ones to level it up?

[eager mountain]

better then vigor for tanking, but vigor has other applications like indom control and max hp scaled skills

[eager mountain]

ye usually there will be 10 batteries, but they didnt do it for temper for whatever reason

[shell hazel]

next UR I will get resi and bastion to 7 then I can decide if I want to level up pvp ones a bit at least

[eager mountain]

lv7 quantum or lv11 resil(pve/emergency pvp cp pad)

[vapid lake]

"its pvp unit, give him op starting lines " fk game why aren't my campaign units this lucky

My rumani has stupid high cp now

[eager mountain]

lulz

[keen vapor]

My jackal

[eager mountain]

i mean it doesnt hurt its on rumani u use her pretty much every sp team, compared to more niche pvp chara

[raven plover]

it reminds me of my 1st roll on rumani

4 ele 3 atk

[keen vapor]

[vapid lake]

Meanwhile rapipipi rolling 3 rocks a day for 1 single line can't get ele dmg fk game

[raven plover]

yea

[keen vapor]

My Rumani got not charge speed just as I wished

[vapid lake]

kontol game

[eager mountain]

u minmaxing her from 3rd lines or nah