pvp-arena

[coarse lake]

crown can't go anywhere if you don't have crown, not really a valid argument in terms of who's better

no core boss sure, but it's probably crown helm+ anyway

in that situation aegis could be used if higher invest

[swift mango]

Did you read what I reply to?

[coarse lake]

no

I'm just talking about who's better

[swift mango]

Bruh

I didn't even talk about who's better

[whole pawn]

yeah but I don't have crown, and I might skip mast anchor because I have to wait for eva

[coarse lake]

[swift mango]

Mast Anchor is your best bet for a campaign instead of fishing for Crown lol

[coarse lake]

I'm detecting.... an account brick incoming

[whole pawn]

what if I m unable to get mast

[coarse lake]

odds are that eva 2.0 are gonna be meta support units is almost 0

[swift mango]

Worst case scenario, you would need to wait 1 year for selector...

[swift mango]

I would crank it up to 40%

[coarse lake]

eh idk, so soon after aegis drops the odds by a lot imo

we've never had an abnormal meta support core, also bc that would be very unfair

pve-wise they've never been must-pull

[tropic summit]

i hope you're right eon

i really wanna skip unneeded collab units

[swift mango]

Yeah because Mari+Asuka isn't must have for topping SR... 🙃

[coarse lake]

mari definitely isn't

asuka isn't either, not even for fire-weak

[swift mango]

You could check top 50 last 5 raid.

[coarse lake]

and neither are meta in campaign

[coarse lake]

having mari and asuka isn't gonna get you there

3% is very easy with 0 collab units

[swift mango]

Yeah, but to get there you need them

[coarse lake]

you need to do much much more than to just get there

unless the dude is top 200 already, it's not gonna get him there

[swift mango]

But without them you can't get there

[coarse lake]

by the time you even have a chance to get to top 50 they're prob irrelevant for SR , esp for non-fire weak

game probably eos before that happens for 99% of ppl

top 200/50 isn't something you slowly work towards patiently just by playing long enough

[swift mango]

The thing is they were must have for highest rank ever since they released until now.

So they are must pull at least for the top ones

[coarse lake]

so they're not a must pull for 99% of ppl

bc they never get remotely close to top 200

[swift mango]

For 99% of player if they want to have higher rank, they had higher chance of doing it with a meta team including Asuka and Mari then not.

So they are still must pull

[coarse lake]

so you would recommend them skip aegis for eva 2.0 yeah?

bc I guarantee the units there will be meta for wind-weak, same as asuka

so must pull yeah?

[swift mango]

It's like saying you can clear Campaign without Crown so crown isn't a must pull for campaign.

If you want to delve into that way they nothing is a must pull.

[coarse lake]

dude's not even gonna be able to crack 3% by the end of the year

if you wanna categorize collab units as must pull, then you must add a tier of must must pull above that

campaign progress >> SR progress

SR is only gems, campaign is sync lvl (union progress), pvp progress (gems), and prob some more I'm forgetting

and I'm willing to bet aegis will be much much more impactful in SR than any collab

[swift mango]

It's depending on priority. For player like Rosy for example, Only Noah and Jackal would be must pull. 😏

[coarse lake]

what are your priorities in the game

[swift mango]

Tbf, only Noah is a must get for me at this point.

[coarse lake]

hunting for top 50 SR eventually, happy with 3% SR, being sweaty in campaign, being sweaty in pvp, rank them

not really bc you don't get a choice in the matter

well ig with wishlist

[swift mango]

Unless you are whale, new player who start last year to now and future would never be top 50 SR, F2P or just buying skin.

[coarse lake]

then unless 3% SR is their top priority, collabs are not must pull

well unless waifu, then all this doesn't matter anyway

[whole pawn]

want me to risk for not getting Eva Collab?

[swift mango]

Better save for Collab I guess. What's are you using for Campaign right now?

[whole pawn]

liter grave Rh sbs alice

[swift mango]

Idk... Maybe you could just get Helm treasure and replace her with one of your B3.

Should be fine...

[whole pawn]

why?

what's wrong with the team?

[swift mango]

All RH, SBS and Alice want to burst. But you could only burst with 2 of them.

Unless you use Red hood as Burst 1.

Better use an off burst buffer like helm

[whole pawn]

I use red hood b1

usually it's sbs b3, then Alice B3, Rh is mostly for B1, but I also use Alice only for to buff sbs

[swift mango]

Yeah... I guess just wish list Mast and Anchor like me then...

[swift mango]

Anyway, it's depending on how many pull and gold tick you have left... Calculate it yourselves I guess...

[tropic summit]

where's your RRH, you didn't get her? 🤔

[whole pawn]

I have 37k gems and 10 pulls and 171 gold mileage

[whole pawn]

I used milegaes on her

[tropic summit]

oh so you do have her, good

might want to replace liter with RRH for campaign once you've her built up

[whole pawn]

maybe, although cover recovery does it's work

[tropic summit]

depends on the stages, in some stage you want some cover recover, in some you want better CDR%

[whole pawn]

my current 130 pulls is probably not En for both, and to have a saved pulls for Eva and half anni, and considering my past pulls, I have no hope

[tropic summit]

it's just more likely you'll want CDR over cover repair, but eh as long as you've her at least the option is there

[whole pawn]

for me getting 2% chance unit is as hard as 1% chances

[whole pawn]

I play with 30 fps so no difference

some days I should just save my pulls and skip everything until Eva, including ordinary vouchers and use them once last and anchor are wishlistef, but I ain't waiting honestly

[torpid kelp]

i have RH (1 ele, 2 max ammo, 1 atk), RHR (4 max ammo, 2 atk, 1 ele) , Alice (2x charge speed, 1 max ammo, 1 ele, 2 atk) for OL geared characters. just rolled SBS and wanted to update my pvp teams. i'm pve geared, but need advice on how to improve the pvp team for rookie and special arena

[whole pawn]

I m curious how did u took this screenshot

nvm, it's cropped and put on a white page

[whole pawn]

@tropic summit

[eager mountain]

maybe mans not here

[whole pawn]

he must take some rest ig

[keen vapor]

Core 7 Ikaros

[strong hull]

There is no ikaros here

[keen vapor]

yet

[tropic summit]

[strong hull]

[keen vapor]

That's why I hoard

[tropic summit]

should I cook or you already on the job? @keen vapor

[strong hull]

Where hoard

[whole pawn]

after playing for 6 months, I can say this game has no waifu value, only meta, and if Eva turned out to be weak than expected, then I might just give up

[strong hull]

500 boxes i thought youre 6k

[keen vapor]

I need to start dailies

[eager mountain]

not gonna give teams but random advices
dont put cindy p2, enemy rl will get extra burst gen from her decoy
get teasure helm best treasure in the game if u have any consideration for pvp
u said u got sbs, ur 3rd dps will be sbs not mpriv
try to use anis instead of clip sg burst gen

[torpid kelp]

thank you

[eager mountain]

the goat rail is here

[tropic summit]

oke doke

[strong hull]

Hold. Let him cook

[whole pawn]

sensei is here

[strong hull]

Do not redeem it

[torpid kelp]

💋

[whole pawn]

you promised my son, to give him free robux

[strong hull]

Come to my basement free robux there

[whole pawn]

he doesn't know

[torpid kelp]

would the updated team for cindy look like "Noah, Noise, Cindy, Noir, Ice Maiden?"

[keen vapor]

Ok, I started dispatch

I can cook now

[strong hull]

You free?

[keen vapor]

Not for you

[strong hull]

Look after Team building for me

Blease

[eager mountain]

depends on ur charge speed lines on noah noise, but they will cook teams for you

[strong hull]

[keen vapor]

Ok, I can do that

[strong hull]

So no 3 defs

[keen vapor]

I would trust Noise P1 more than Noah P1

Not many are as tanky to survive till then

If you have Biscuit you don't care about that

[strong hull]

P1 noise tank enough?

[torpid kelp]

i used biscuit on the second team; i'd need to replace her

[keen vapor]

You have no Summer Anis so there's not much point for you in using Moran Biscuit

[keen vapor]

Depends

[torpid kelp]

yeah i want summer anis, i didn't start until eva 😦

[tropic summit]

hmm you're a bit short of batteries, do you've spots in synchro to throw an anis in?

SR anis

[torpid kelp]

i can buy one for 500 it's not that big of a deal

[tropic summit]

either that or take away someone you're not using for pve

[keen vapor]

Wow, look at that she's our only unit that can benefit from Biscuit burst

SU should cook more supporter DPS units

[eager mountain]

liberalio

[keen vapor]

Cook Shift Up cook!

[eager mountain]

aint u or rail gonna cook for urlgug

[keen vapor]

But giving general advises is more fun

[eager mountain]

indeed!

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind xmaiden noise
ein blanc sbs drake jackal
noah biscuit pmaid rh anis

cubes (if available):

quantum on centi, jackal, anis
vigor on blanc, biscuit
temperance on noah
any other nikke run highest available lvl cube

notes/wishlist: rapunzel, rumani, scarlet, helm treasure

[keen vapor]

So@torpid kelp

Since you gain nothing from Biscuit burst on that Moran team I would advise to.... Oh, Rail ruined the fun

[tropic summit]

I thought you were doing dailies, you multitasker

[keen vapor]

I started dispatch

[eager mountain]

no updates yet from my sp btw, mf didnt touch me

[tropic summit]

scared

[eager mountain]

[torpid kelp]

thank you very much

[torpid kelp]

does having rumani change any of the teams?

because i just rolled her, where should i slot her in? cuz that wishlist update took in effect immediately lol

[whole pawn]

no sanis...

[keen vapor]

We should have more B3 supports

[keen vapor]

If the speed keeps the same then you could swap Anis for Rumani, however there's a considerable difference on their burst generation so it might be get the team slower

For now save for future cooks

[whole pawn]

I have to suffer in tetra tower, in mc, in pvp....

[keen vapor]

Is either summer anis or Ludmilla in that tower

Also, Cinderella and ice Maiden makes a good duo

[whole pawn]

tetra tower...

[fathom rock]

You are complaining in the wrong place this is a pvper's den

[whole pawn]

well we shifted it

[whole pawn]

need pvp help then

[fathom rock]

Send your situation

[torpid kelp]

oh, i wanted to also ask about rookie arena. should i change centi to SBS? my original team is cindy, blanc, rh, centi, jackal

[fathom rock]

If someone is getting replaced here for sbs it's cindy

[tropic summit]

sorry just reading it now, uh lemme c

[tropic summit]

go for this for rookie:

[whole pawn]

ok let me finish my exam preparation
I have it tomorrow morning

[tropic summit]

as for rumani replace anis, as long as she is on better CP

[still oxide]

what can you replace noah for?

[tropic summit]

you mean on a rookie team with cinderella?

[still oxide]

yes

[whole pawn]

bankai , zenpaktu

[kindred tinsel]

does rh b1 and xanne atk buff override?

[tropic summit]

hmm this would be a decent alternative

naga can be any flex unit on high CP that is not B1 or B3

anis can be any battery that is not B1

[still oxide]

ok thanks i was just missing noah

[tropic summit]

another example:

[still oxide]

these 2 teams are for rookie correct?

[tropic summit]

hmm assuming you've a lot of nikke and built, you can probably run even better rookie teams

this one is probably one of the best rookie teams u can run

this one is also decent

[still oxide]

yeah but that is the thing i was asking for a good team without noah because she is the only unit from the broken/good pvp units that i do not have

[tropic summit]

well there's plenty

scarlet variations on 2RL and cindy variations do not require noah

noahless cindy on 2RL

helmess and noahless cindy 2RL

scarlet 2RL

any of these on rookie will be defending against a good chunk of players

[still oxide]

hahaha "helmess" and "noaless" thanks i will try those 2 teams and see which one perfoms better

[tropic summit]

yep go for that, should be fairly good just due to pure speed and threat

if the enemy runs a 2RL noah, you might still be in trouble depending on what they got for post nuke, but it's still a better % at winning on def

[brazen ledge]

my friend has made these teams by himself, what do you think of them ?

his nikkes :

[modest summit]

Hi, I know I don't have much in terms of PVP units, bout could anyone please help me put together some defense teams so maybe I can fight back a bit? 🙂

[shell hazel]

Railtracer-sama my def teams still holding strong should I OL Rapunzel some? I'm trying to keep the teams roughly even CP

[tropic summit]

glad to hear, absolutely yes

as long as you've no other priorities pending, why not

[hidden wind]

What can beat a -noise noah sanis centi jackal- team?

[tropic summit]

yeah your friend seems to know what he's doing, although a bit questionable the T3 🤔

[brazen ledge]

What would you put as t3?

[tropic summit]

gonna check the nikke box and see what we can arrange

[brazen ledge]

He has maiden that he didn’t put

[shell hazel]

yes I don't really tbh, still trying to get gear, I'll OL one piece on her and then see about doing some more for main campaign team

[fathom rock]

I'm more worried how the cp takes a nosedive from T1

[shell hazel]

I'm still working towards treasure helm so going to save dolls and things for next SR and see what I can get

[tropic summit]

go with this rookie team:

[brazen ledge]

There’s lvl 1 nikkes in the team he didn’t put them in synchro yet

[tropic summit]

yeah he has nikke lvl 1 in there, but i suppose it's because they're making the teams

[brazen ledge]

Yes

[shell hazel]

i'm putting skills into Rapi atm for campaign team, so gear OL at basic level is mostly on pvp units for now

[fathom rock]

Well looks good to me

Why are we not using scarlet tho

[modest summit]

Thank you Railtracer-sama, I'll try that. Are there any teams you'd suggest for SP arena to maybe have a bit of a chance and not lose so much?

[hidden wind]

Anyone know a good counter to a -Noise Noah Sanis Centi Jackal- team? I have every Nikke so far.

[fathom rock]

Rookie aren?

[brazen ledge]

Too low power

[tropic summit]

i'd change T3 and T1 into this

[brazen ledge]

I made the teams but I wasn’t sure how good they were so if you were going to blame someone it would’ve been my friend

[tropic summit]

don't worry, T1 and T2 were fairly good, T3 could use help on speed

as T1 has got jackal link, being 3.5RL may lead to 3RL due to feed, so we can optimize this way

[hidden wind]

Yes

[brazen ledge]

Ye I tried to make them as speedy as possible still

Alice isn’t the best for that ik

But she works well with sbs

[fathom rock]

Emilia/blanc/redhood/centi/jackal

[tropic summit]

alice works well in that team cuz of CP padding, but yeah offburst does help in part

plus giving SBS extra dps

[brazen ledge]

And she can be a good dps if sbs dies

[tropic summit]

she'll be your backup indom target as long as jackal is higher HP than both alice and sbs

[hidden wind]

K, gonna try that

[fathom rock]

Make sure emilia has less hp than rh and jackal first

[tropic summit]

wait

[hidden wind]

Any cubes I need to put on?

[tropic summit]

oh it's s.anis not cindy, should be good then

[fathom rock]

Why my calc show 2.5rl

[tropic summit]

which one you using? 🤔

[fathom rock]

Gatrix calc
Maybe cuz 21 cs emi?

[tropic summit]

he has 21 CS%? i wonder

[fathom rock]

Just give jackal and centi quantum

[tropic summit]

as long as emi doesn't die prior to indom he'll be fine, although enemy will burst first 🤔

[fathom rock]

sanis feed to 2rl tho?

[tropic summit]

mhm, might give him 2.5RL for free

[brazen ledge]

my teams are getting old, cindy isn't invested in properly but i nearly have everyone else

emilia is 21% cs

[tropic summit]

post your box with nikke ordered by strength

[fathom rock]

How did you manage to make 3 comps that are all countered by any 2rl nuke
Send box

[brazen ledge]

rosanna isn't perfect

only 30% atk, but 30% ele too

[fathom rock]

Not using rossana for def anyway

[brazen ledge]

Who said it was for def ?

[fathom rock]

Well you gotta show an opponent for attacking

[tropic summit]

@fathom rock you cooking that? i'll keep pushing campaign meanwhile

[fathom rock]

I'll cook def if you gonna push an enemy send their comps

Can't just blindly cook attack

And does laplace have treasure?

Or helm for that matter

[hidden wind]

It worked! Thank you!

[tropic summit]

say thanks to @fathom rock , good job

[hidden wind]

Both of you! Thanks so much

[fathom rock]

@brazen ledge I need answers to these

[fathom rock]

You are welcome, feel free to ask anytime the MA team will be to your assistance

[hidden wind]

I always come here for help, hahaha

[eager mountain]

What is the MA team

[fathom rock]

Military academy team works here in this server to make guides and answer people's questions

[hidden wind]

Also with Champion around the block, I need all the help I can get.

[brazen ledge]

Im not pushing anyone precisely now

Ill just use the same ones for atk unless I rly want to push for the last days

Ill be doing ai

[fathom rock]

blindly attacking opponents

Now I'm gonna assume no treasures and ik your cindy sucks

[brazen ledge]

Laplace Treasure only

[eager mountain]

there’s no blind atk teams, ppl asked for def team or atk team against specific ppl

[brazen ledge]

6 rocks today, eating well

[modest summit]

Are there any suggested defense teams for SP arena I could make? I know I dont have much

[shell hazel]

I had 1 rock today 😄

[brazen ledge]

im doing ai lvl 7

[shell hazel]

I am not

ultra 4

[brazen ledge]

ik

[fathom rock]

Scarlet/laplace/xanne/anis (quantum) /jackal (quantum)
Blanc/sanis/biscuit/xmaid/rumani (quantum)
Noah/noise/cindy/emilia (quantum) /centi (quantum)
Please don't do blind attacks

[tropic summit]

a bit too early for you to worry about SP arena, although you can form at least 1 meta team, the other 2 will be mostly padded

[keen vapor]

Sometimes people don't listen

[eager mountain]

[shell hazel]

ended like a 5 day drought of 0 rocks though ugh

[modest summit]

interesting, ill keep that in mind. any team suggestion?

[brazen ledge]

xanne is at 64k xp heh

gonna have to change that in the very very near future

[tropic summit]

these 2 could work, 3rd team just auto whatever is higher CP leftover

wishlist priority for pvp: jackal, biscuit, noah, rapu, rumani
pve that may serve in pvp: sbs, grave

[modest summit]

i've got exactly those in my wishlist right now. thank you for the team suggestion!

[tropic summit]

eh awesome, no prob you welcome

[brazen ledge]

my cindy is still trash btw

[fathom rock]

Grave in pvp

[fathom rock]

I know but she noise buffed

Is the cp bad should I change?

[brazen ledge]

im at 1.35m

[tropic summit]

for those without RH, it's a reality (it allows you to use blanc elsewhere too)

[brazen ledge]

total

[fathom rock]

[brazen ledge]

i was at 1.5m before

so thats still a big 150k+ diff

[fathom rock]

So rumani, xanne and Cindy not built who else

[brazen ledge]

rumani is good

[fathom rock]

Xmaid and centi also seem quite low

[brazen ledge]

anis, xanne, cindy xmaiden and centi aren't very high

i can overload their eqs and they should be good by the end of the week

not this week obv

[modest summit]

question, would these also work for attack or are they more defense focused?

[fathom rock]

Scarlet/laplace/centi/rumani/jackal
Noah/biscuit/sanis/rapunzel/noise
Auto fill campaign team

[tropic summit]

considering your limited options, yes these will be your same atk teams

[hidden wind]

Gonna go up against this in SP Arena. Any team recommendations?

[modest summit]

thank you

[tropic summit]

a poli believer but why p5

their p2 is very scarlattable, p1 you could ignore, p3 you can 3RL nuke

[fathom rock]

Have everything right?

[hidden wind]

I do, yes

[fathom rock]

Tf is that t3

[tropic summit]

ikr

probably padded

[fathom rock]

Railtraicer can we share bleach?

[eager mountain]

thats a really random pvp team for a lv 481

[tropic summit]

auto & yolo

[brazen ledge]

i did sbs crown rh alice emilia

[tropic summit]

run this:

[brazen ledge]

gonna try to go for this guy ig

[eager mountain]

yeah, if its just some income loss for them never a big deal

[hidden wind]

for 2nd and 3rd team, right?

[tropic summit]

yeah opponent teams are on the right, just match those

[fathom rock]

Beat T2 by scarlet/centi/anis/rh/jackal
Beat T3 by noah/biscuit/sanis/rapunzel/noise

[fathom rock]

Not bay

[brazen ledge]

?????

[tropic summit]

oh lvl 3 quantum is actually enough for 2RL too

[fathom rock]

Your teams use anis twice?

[tropic summit]

no wonder it felt strange it was 2RL

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

now that's better

[tropic summit]

this works too @hidden wind , if it has more CP go for that

[hidden wind]

K let me try it out

[tropic summit]

i should use the web app more, that one prevents copy paste funzies 🤔

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[brazen ledge]

i can't beat that guy fr ?

[tropic summit]

oh he's quite beatable

[fathom rock]

I am thinking really hard for a way to beat T2

[tropic summit]

you don't wanna 2RL T3?

Bay is weak to emi and cindy due to damage share

either indom emi or cindy

[fathom rock]

T1 is ded by scar jack 1rl team
His T3 is 2.5rl prob maybe even 2rl with some feed

[raven plover]

sanis t2

[tropic summit]

or as you've showed yourself, RRH is kinda nasty

[hidden wind]

oof, my CP is too low. Damn it.

[tropic summit]

yeah T3 is gonna need a noise noah sbs anis centi

[hidden wind]

Oh well, I'll give it a shot at later

[tropic summit]

although hilarious if indom goes to pepper due to splash

[fathom rock]

@brazen ledge
T1 ded by scar/xanne/rh/centi/jack
T2 ded by noah/biscuit/sanis/rapunzel/rumani
@tropic summit please check that

[tropic summit]

with any of the 2 variations we gave you? RIP

[hidden wind]

oh

wait, no I won

I used Retro's lol

[fathom rock]

And fury send cp

[brazen ledge]

just to be sure, t1 is the noir team, t3 is scarlet team

[fathom rock]

Yes

[hidden wind]

Thanks everyone!

[fathom rock]

You are welcome, feel free to ask anytime the MA team will be to your assistance

[tropic summit]

hmm the idea of getting enemy RH stuck on hitting p1 is good, but s.anis is gonna need to do a lot of heavyweight 🤔

[hidden wind]

[brazen ledge]

474 and 462

[tropic summit]

could work tho depending on s.anis investiment

burst lvl9, resil, some atk% OLs are probably enough

[fathom rock]

Enough cp for t1
T2 is sanis hyper carry, you fed her well?

[brazen ledge]

28% atk, 10/10/9 resi lvl 9

[tropic summit]

yeah seems fed enough

[fathom rock]

T2 cp too low wait
You gave everyone cubes?

[tropic summit]

oh just noticed their T3 is actually the lowest CP, the path is still open to just 2RL noah it 🤔

[fathom rock]

What would that look like
Noah/anis/sbs/laplace/rumani?

[brazen ledge]

noah biscuit quantum both, sanis resilience rapunzel and rumani adjutant both

scarlet resilience, anne jackal endurance, rh resilience centi quantum

[tropic summit]

was thinking this:

scarlet as in SBS btw

it needs only 1 quantum on any battery

[fathom rock]

I thought this was og

But will that survive indom scar?

[tropic summit]

yeah

noise and noah are there to peel

SBS will procc low amount of counters

[fathom rock]

@brazen ledge send cp for this and use against t3

[tropic summit]

unless that scarlet is some raid boss level investiment with crit rate and atk% black lines

what are the odds... right?

[brazen ledge]

434

[tropic summit]

12% deficit 434vs489 🤔

should be doable

[fathom rock]

That's in range
We took centi from T1 tho right?

Just swap that empty slot with rumani if so
Should win

[brazen ledge]

With rumani instead of centi im at 465 on t3

[west steppe]

Looking for teams for arena, both rookie and sp. I can swap or add synchro slots if necessary

[tropic summit]

well we've got noah covering B2, you can use rumani in there fine

[frozen nebula]

is shotgun team still viable, even if combat power is similar?

[tropic summit]

as long as you're not facing scarlet and/or jackal

[fathom rock]

Just give rumani and anis quantum and dew it

[brazen ledge]

and nothing slot 2?

[tropic summit]

you can auto T2, we committed to the others

i suggest recording in case something funny goes on, that way we can analyze post match (e.g. enemy scarlet investiment)

[brazen ledge]

going for it

[tropic summit]

curious on that pepper aswell

[brazen ledge]

It went well

[tropic summit]

uh, it wasn't an assassin pepper afterall 🤔

[brazen ledge]

not at all

thx, i did my 2 fights for today

[fathom rock]

You only need to win twice
You can run the character you hate most there as a ritual

[brazen ledge]

ill only do that on my main, idc abt the little account for that

[tropic summit]

crow

[tropic summit]

@fathom rock cooking this next? i'll continue maldin'

[fathom rock]

22-27 and 22-30 await you

[tropic summit]

eh, let's see what awaits

[frozen nebula]

My brain is faltering. I keep getting beat by others, yet I don't know what to change on defense.

[tropic summit]

SG team on def... SBS as B3

we found your issues

[fathom rock]

Lv201
Rookie : sbs/blanc/redhood/centi/jackal
Sp :
Sbs/blanc/rh/centi/jackal
Anis/biscuit/cindy/noise/rumani
Auto fill team for cp

[frozen nebula]

I switched to SBS today thinking it would change something, but I had Emilia before.

Also couldn't think for the other team so I went shotty.

[tropic summit]

hmm, emi would've probably done a bit better, as it forces a noah or a fast team to kill her pre burst

post your box with nikke ordered by strength, let's see what you've

[fathom rock]

Do you just have everyone too

[west steppe]

I just got to 200 💀 I kept getting unlucky with rolls for dupes

[fathom rock]

If rookie team fails to defend run centi/biscuit/cindy/noise/rumani

I'm assuming cp difference between those 2 is big

[tropic summit]

helm and laplace treasured?

[frozen nebula]

No

[quick lake]

SBS and SGs doesnt work on defence anymore

[fathom rock]

Sg doesn't work?
my bracket so pepega bruh

[tropic summit]

drake treasured?

looks fairly well invested 🤔

[frozen nebula]

Almost but no.

[tropic summit]

aww

[frozen nebula]

Unfortunately, I'm facing against whales.

[tropic summit]

probably last question, emilia is on 21% charge speed total?

[frozen nebula]

lol no

[tropic summit]

[frozen nebula]

Who I can I replace on SG team, then?

[tropic summit]

well i've got something still better than what you've atm

scarlet blanc alice rumani jackal
naga centi cind drakeT noise
noah biscuit emi rh ein

cubes:

quantum jackal, rumani, centi
vigor blanc, biscuit, noise
temperance noah
other nikke any high lvl cube available

notes/wishlist: get helm treasured, consider rolling 21%CS on emi, consider finishing drake for treasure

your T2 and T3 are less counterable, T3 is additionally nuke resistant and requires enemy to use specific comps

T1 is all purpose with extra CP (alice)

T2 has also gained CP (cindy and drake)

go with that for 24h and let's see how it goes

[frozen nebula]

I'll try, thanks.

[keen vapor]

Blanc with quantum

[tropic summit]

it's just the SS, read the text

[frozen nebula]

Wait, Noise not on adjutant cube?

[tropic summit]

adjutant would increase charge speed to get more heals out of her, vigor although increase all of her kit potential instead

out of the two, vigor is generally the best option

[keen vapor]

Noise doesn't heal by shots, that's Rapunzel

[frozen nebula]

I know, some dude here about a month ago told to switch to adjutant for taunting.

[tropic summit]

when having 2 taunting nikke in the same comp, taunt last applied overrides the previous one

eg noah and noise will contend taunting

adjutant can help you in ensuring who you want to taunt

[umbral crown]

Sometimes nero or blanc

[tropic summit]

oh right noise doesn't have to auto unlike rapu for that to trigger, it's on during full burst 🤔

[frozen nebula]

For team 1 - "scarlet blanc alice rumani jackal", is Alice a flex unit?

[tropic summit]

yep, correct, doubles down as secondary indom target

[frozen nebula]

Unless you want to prioritize her s1?

[frozen nebula]

oh ok

[thin perch]

What’s the hard counter to this team?

This guy also just went up 10 synchro levels out of nowhere after I passed him in hard mode campaign💀

[tropic summit]

had boxes stored up, a bit of a waste considering soon we'll get 2 more chapters

[tropic summit]

4RL or 5RL noah biscuit stall
2.5RL indom scarlet

pick whatever you more confident with

[eager mountain]

free food for emi+rosa

they should have p3 bis p4 rh

[glad meteor]

Enemy emi can trigger indom on p3 biscuit if p2 emi linked to jackal, and p3 is unlinked

[white folio]

do these teams look ok?

or is this team better for my last team
so I have two aoe teams?

[white folio]

or is cinderella better than 2b

[glad meteor]

T1 looks slow, biscuit p5 is bad since redhood target p5, and biscuit is ele weak
T2 scar without indom pretty easy to counter these days since a lot of burst gen units
T3 I don’t know if 2B is still relevant in today’s game

[glad meteor]

Cindy in p2 also feeds enemy RLs extra burst gen

[white folio]

so i should stick to red hood?

[glad meteor]

Cindirella is good, just need to rebuild the team somewhat. If you send a screenshot of your nikkes. Someone shoukd be able to assist you

[white folio]

as this is my current team, and now my white rabbit is...protecting liter instead
so its not very affecting anymore

[glad meteor]

Anne in p1 also hurts the team. She could die pre burst

[white folio]

ahh

[glad meteor]

Can put HP cube on liter

[white folio]

ahh ok

[glad meteor]

Is your liter linked to jackal

[white folio]

linked..?

[glad meteor]

Is liter second highest attack on the team. So liter and scarlet have jackal damage share

[white folio]

unsure, how do I check-

[glad meteor]

Put this team into a shooting range. And check if liter get’s jackal s2 ability. Distribute damage equally

[white folio]

yes liter and scarlet share

[white folio]

I think what hurts also: i still don't have rapunzel

[glad meteor]

At that synchronisation, I think liter should have a lot more health than scarlet, so scarlet should get blanc indomitability. Unless against rosanna

[glad glade]

Is it possible for me to beat him? If so, what should I do?

[white folio]

but every time,
Liter gets the immune instead of scarlet, idk why
*stares at the nikkes killing my whole team with liter still standing because of immune

[glad glade]

Team placement from rounds are from previous battles for other rivals

[glad meteor]

Liter has more health than scarlet too right

[white folio]

oh wait
my scarlet has starting of: 165734 hp
my liter has 144175
but they attack my scarlet so shouldnt scarlet be lower by then?

[glad meteor]

You seem to be facing deficit, it’s not looking good

[glad meteor]

Your liter needs more hp, scarlet/liter/jackal share damage between each other equally while jackal linked

[glad glade]

Yeah. But that’s why I want to try. The challenge beckons me

[white folio]

ahh, how do I get liter hp up?
I put vigor cube is still lesser hp

[glad meteor]

Doll + gears + vigor cube

[white folio]

ok, got it

[glad meteor]

The vigor cube won’t affect the stat on nikke screen. It’s an in game effect

[white folio]

ohh

[white folio]

does defense do anything?

dont ask my why but my liter stat for equipment keep rolling into defense

[quick lake]

Base Defence values are very low, so defence doesnt help that much

[glad meteor]

Not really, I manipulate the defence stat to target SBS s1 to specific nikkes sometimes. But it’s niche and doesn’t really do much.

[white folio]

ahh ok

and I guess I shouldn't put drake with sanis right?

cause my drake has the doll

[glad meteor]

Correct

[white folio]

ok, thank you

[umbral crown]

[vapid lake]

maybe move laplace/emilia out of scarlet team for blanc so she gets double buff to guarantee her burst wipes enemy

bursting with RH B2

and replace sanis with ein if you have her very built up

idk maybe equal

i feel ein is harder to attack/defend against because need protection from noah and taunt to taunt her drones

[quick lake]

If u wanna go for 4 black cs lines

[drifting hazel]

Bro I’m really just out here PvP bricked by cp I should def be in challenge if I had 20 more synchro levels

[quick lake]

Yeah. Attack is always easier. Defence is hard

Opponent can gem u too

[drifting hazel]

Fr, that’s literally the only reason why I’m usually sitting in diamond 5

How much CS on THelm for that kind of burst speed?

[quick lake]

Only Emilia is able to shoot 3 rockets in 2RL time, with 23-25% purely from OLs and cubes. So literally T13-15 Cs lines x4

Regular RL/SR units just need ~15-17% CS

[drifting hazel]

Rip, I need abnormal atk gear, gave all of it to Asuka since she’s useful for bosses and SR

I got none on Emilia rn

So she’s slow rn

[quick lake]

Rolling 4x cs% still pretty expensive.

Emilia just needs ~8% from OLs and cubes, assuming s1 maxed

so pretty alright

[drifting hazel]

I usually get CS from OLs usually on my units that don’t need cs

[quick lake]

Always the case

[drifting hazel]

No, mine has been on lv5 since I got her

I benched Emilia a long time ago, until recently I thought she was benched like most collab units are in games

Let’s hope so

[quick lake]

Yeah it does round. So 5.51 works

2 blue, 2 black iirc

[drifting hazel]

My scar needs atk lines, she has 2 ele but no atk no use for ele in PvP for the most part

[quick lake]

Iron units like Laplace and BSoda do ~~good ~~ great with ele

since majority of pvp units are elec

[drifting hazel]

True, but for scar, she’ll be better off with the atk>ele since she’s benched to PvP for the most part

[quick lake]

yeah def. Scar wants atk/crot rate

[drifting hazel]

Laplace has no OL rn

My scar gear is in shambles rn

Let’s see how long till I lose diamond 1

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-about-sending-a-message-dark-knight-gif-9259882

[umbral crown]

indeed

[grizzled bone]

[keen vapor]

My Scar needs ammo

[keen vapor]

Me

[drifting hazel]

Same, suffering with only one line

[rich quail]

My Scar

3 max ammo lines, one blue

198.57%

[worldly sun]

can someone suggest me 3 teams for pvp? wanna start focusing on pvp now

[crystal flicker]

Whats the cp difference between you and top 5 PvP in your bracket?

[worldly sun]

triple my cp because I stopped playing for a month

should I just abandon pvp bcz no point of doing it now?

[quick lake]

Can probably hold off on pvp for a while. A month is still alright tbh. Just need to push campaign and progress and u can slowly catch up

[crystal flicker]

I away for a month and still able to contest top 3 pvp

I can tell you what to invest, and make a squad based on it/ideal investment

or make squad that you can use now (but not optimal)

[worldly sun]

icic

[worldly sun]

probably this

no rush for me just want to slowly build the team that will prob be the final team in the future

[crystal flicker]

ok

[crystal flicker]

Invest:
Priority: Helm Treasure(Phase 2 & S1 level 10), SAnis(Burst level 9)
Burst gen battery & Essentials: Noah, Biscuit, Centi, Rumani, Rapunzel, Anis, XMaiden
Others: Drake Treasure(PvP battery & SG comp for Raid), Mana

Rookie:
Noah Cindy Rumani Centi XMaiden

SP:
T1: Blanc Cindy Tia Rumani HelmTreasured
T2: Noah Biscuit SAnis Rapunzel XMaiden
T3: Crown Rapipi ScarletBS Anis Centi

Can be improved once you get DrunkScarlet & Jackal

[worldly sun]

alright thanks a lot

[eager mountain]

true, personally like to emi rosa p3 link defense like that... but bis stealing indom is more important concern

[red cobalt]

Hello what team can i use for pvp

[eager mountain]

need whole roster, one single team for what u provided would be centi/anis/ein/liter/jackel

[quick lake]

Rapi Centi Naga Liter Jackal

[eager mountain]

or that

[quick lake]

For now, just focus on campaign

[red cobalt]

Thx

Isnt naga bad on pvp and ein better ?

[quick lake]

Naga has higher burst gen values than Ein. So it allows u to burst first which means higher chances of winning

Ein is good only when u're bursting with her. In this team, we're bursting with Rapi instead, so we'll bench Ein this time

[red cobalt]

Thx

[crystal flicker]

Prefer Ein tbh, MG is Scarlet feed in PvP

[red cobalt]

Who is mg

[eager mountain]

machine gun

[boreal mango]

hi, can someone suggest how can I improve my SP def and who should I OL next? (first row have OLs)

[crystal flicker]

Build DrunkScarlet, get Helm's Treasure to Phase 2 and Skill 1 level 10

[boreal mango]

ok and after I build drunk scarlet should I switch her with scarlet:bs?

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Blanc Centi Alice Jackal
Noah Biscuit SAnis Rumani XMaiden
Noise Rapu Cindy Anis HelmTreasured

[boreal mango]

alright I'll get to building them, thanks

[crystal flicker]

Helm might take a while, till then just slap BSoda or ScarletBS (lower burst gen)

[crystal flicker]

Priority Scarlet(Drunk) and Helm

[eager mountain]

mMast (drunker)

[shell hazel]

first def of the season, great success

[covert lintel]

march

[untold lion]

got an update from yesterday - i improve alot thx to you guys! @swift mango @quick lake @crystal flicker

[eager mountain]

[boreal surge]

My ranking arena is bronze forever

[swift mango]

Could try to attack some and get to diamond 10 at less...

[boreal surge]

Ok ,arena just give me 300 gems

[swift mango]

You could get 800-1200 easily though

[eager mountain]

[umbral crown]

[wise horizon]

how would you approach these 3 rookie teams? @tropic summit

[quick lake]

Maybe we should do a weekly pvp puzzle

[cedar orbit]

3 RL S.Anis+Noah, 2 RL Cindy, 2 RL S.Anis+Noah.

[quick lake]

My answers:

||1. 2RL Cindy or 3RL Rosanna snipe Noise
2. Anything works here. 3RL ScarJack
3. 4RL Moran Blanc Biscuit Cindy flex||
Do ur own homework!

[eager mountain]

||in 2 minutes, calculate the burst/ol requirement for an sr0 lv400 5/5/5/5 lb0 lv100 recycles rosa burst to one shot a lv400 5/5/5/5 lb0 lv100 recycles sr15 emilia w/o def lines||
nah this is not a puzzle...

[cedar orbit]

don't think 3rd works

[tender valve]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-goo-titans-attack-on-titan-eren-yeager-eren-yeager-season4-gif-24929139

[quick lake]

Took some time to find the vid. But Cindy vs delayed Cindy works. (had to screen record bilili so ignore the poor quality). This was 3RL vs 5RL cindy

[cedar orbit]

my Cindy would have 1-shot the enemy team there

[quick lake]

The invuln P1 and P2 will never die. Cindy cant kill cindy cause of decoy

[cedar orbit]

that's cope

[quick lake]

So everything else besides this 3 units should die. And ur burst chain is still alive

No, like its a bug/feature that Cindy's nuke only destroy's opponent's cindy's decoy

So one way was to take advantage and build slow teams to counter fast teams

It was an interesting idea at least

Done it quite a few times myself

[cedar orbit]

the enemy Cinderella is so weak, she doesn't even 1-shot Biscuit

[quick lake]

But the point is even if it does, the idea still works though

[cedar orbit]

if the enemy team is invested, they could just break through the decoy, no?

the enemy team's Cindy deal 2.9 mil damage with her ult with Noise buff. Ally Cindy dealt 3.8 mil damage unbuffed.

clearly there was a major difference in investment

[quick lake]

True, investment plays a part definitely. Thats why I prefer running Moran + Blanc, indom Moran allowing ur Cindy to auto attack the enemy's remaining Cindy

Setup is not perfect per se. As long as it works somewhat reliably I guess

[tropic summit]

almost felt like reading a math exam and got nearly PTSD, don't do that ever again

[tropic summit]

adding to what Rheax also suggested:

||1- 2RL Cindy or 3RL Rosanna snipe Noise
2- Anything works here. 3RL ScarJack
3- 4RL Moran Blanc Biscuit Cindy flex||

1-3RL indom emi, 3RL noah biscuit rapu s.anis flex
2-due to being a very slow team, anything, high feed also from modernia and p1 is not protected (lack of biscuit or revive)
3-that's one of the probably best def rookie team, albeit still counterable, 2RL noah rumani biscuit sbs anis (my enemy whale ch1 is currently running something pretty similar) - vid attached
3-2RL s.anis would also work, example against a similar team minus helm - vid attached

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Jackal is the answer for everything

With Indom ofc

[tropic summit]

not everything

that's indom scarlet losing

i've a feeling late game high synch pvp will be a lot about stall teams

we've seen cindy 3RL losing to 5RL cindy, nero teams outsustaining

then there's the wild card of rosanna sacc teams

[crystal flicker]

Idk, I'm beating Noah's ass few hours ago with Drunklet

[tropic summit]

video?

[crystal flicker]

I'm not recording though

Could be difference in investment

[glad meteor]

To block red hood buffed indom scarlet. Need invested noise and noah, and sometimes that might not be enough.

[quick lake]

Scarlet s2 RNG

[glad meteor]

I tried milk the other day

Need more heals

[tropic summit]

yeah i've seen ppl with same lineup not being able to make it to post nuke scarlet due to autos and counters

[quick lake]

Time to treasure milk

[tropic summit]

with what resources? helm is killing me

[glad meteor]

[tropic summit]

and i'll probably take i dunno... at least a month b4 she's ready

[crystal flicker]

fr

[quick lake]

Skill book income is bad

[crystal flicker]

I need SR soo bad

[tropic summit]

where's the biscuit

taunt + biscuit or indom scarlet will isekai you to hell

[glad meteor]

This is a test run, to see if milk could do it. Biscuit makes it too easy

[tropic summit]

ah reasonable then

milk not enough sustain

[glad meteor]

Level 4 burst and healing cube

[tropic summit]

maybe with better lifesteal...

[swift mango]

How many purple can I get?

[tropic summit]

out of 7-8 usages, i think i found 1 SR

in your case i'm gonna say 2 or at best 3

[quick lake]

[swift mango]

Anyone betting on 0?

[quick lake]

Hope u get what u want

I think R is better. Can exchange and get mats

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

nah noway it's 0, noway.

[swift mango]

I see this as big win

1 SR RL drop from the start of the doll system, then now it's tripled..

[tropic summit]

yeah about the amount i'd have guessed

seems like the RNG is between 20-25%

[reef citrus]

Not bad, cant remember how long its been without an SR from that thing, for me

[quick lake]

I see SR doll as a lose

[glad meteor]

Gib blues

Need to throw in combine

[swift mango]

Saving is the key. I was only getting 1 SR out of this thing before today.

[swift mango]

Is this the sign that they are telling me to get Anchor? Or Noah would drop soon.

[swift mango]

Exactly 20% according to this.

[tropic summit]

although, we all know nikke is a scam

[swift mango]

Value wise, combining blue doll from boxes mats for Upgrade mats is less efficient than just getting the upgrade mats mission themselves.

4 start doll box mission give 40 frags. 1 blue doll = 5 mission. 4 blue doll for 10 red or 20 purple.

So 20 4 stars missions for 20 purple. Basically make it equal to 20 3 star mission of purple box. Or 10 4 star mission of Red mats.

Not to mention the chance of getting SR doll from combining them.

[crystal flicker]

I'd convert dolls to doll upgrade mats if I can

[swift mango]

TL;DR:

If you don't hunt for SR dolls, don't take any doll box dispatch that's not 5 stars, it's not worth it.

[quick lake]

Yeah makes sense

[swift mango]

Kinda troubling that I got 2 SR RL when I alr ady combined everything so all my RL had SR doll though.

Could put it on Anis but my Anis need to keep blue doll for a specific reason... Putting Purple on Rumani already messed up my Emj team...

Some cases you want blue doll more than purple...

[glad meteor]

Sometimes I get confused and think sr doll is sniper rifle doll

[keen vapor]

I always hunt for RL doll

[radiant storm]

Need Advice @swift mango , @tropic summit

Def Comp in Sp I guess

[tropic summit]

sure, what is it

post your 3 actual comps and your box and we can give you a few tips

[radiant storm]

@tropic summit

The Rh/S.anis Combo is just an Experimental Def Comp in my end

Rh, Anis Sr, Centi, Jackal, Emilia, Rapu, Blanc, Biscuit has Quantum

[tropic summit]

hmm they're not bad per se, the crown was supposed to be temporary right?

also, did you get helm treasured by any chance?

[radiant storm]

Not yet, still upgrading her Blue piece to purple lvl 5

[radiant storm]

Yes, It can take down an Emilia/Rh comp in my End to say the least

[tropic summit]

rumani is down there somewhere?

[radiant storm]

Sadly, "I Don't have Rumani"

[tropic summit]

oh oke doke

hmm let's see

[covert lintel]

it's for anchor

[radiant storm]

I can change Emilia to Anis Sr for much faster burst gen

[tropic summit]

you can actually probably upgrade to this:

for T2 though, we need to ensure a few things:

-between ein, RH and emi, is ein still 2nd highest atk%? (OL atk% count toward that too)

based on investiment i expect emi to be the 3rd highest atk% in that team

lastly, ensure ein has less max HP than RH (should be, again, based on investiment)

That ensures indom goes to Ein on burst

[clear wave]

I asked for help creating 3 teams back then but I need help again since I got 3 new additions RH Rapi, Grave and Rumani

[brazen ledge]

Can you show non synced nikkes ?

[reef citrus]

Rumani at least is only good for the arena

[clear wave]

Non synced? okay

[brazen ledge]

Maybe you have other good nikkes that you weren’t using

[reef citrus]

Do you have Naga

[radiant storm]

Yes Ein has 2nd Highest

[clear wave]

Sadly this is all I have atm

[tropic summit]

and ein has less max hp than RH right?

[reef citrus]

Then get her from here when you can, shes op with your Crown

[radiant storm]

Should I change to Quantum to Vigor for Rh or remain?

[radiant storm]

Yes

[brazen ledge]

No Sanis no Cindy no sbs…

[tropic summit]

if RH and jackal have higher HP than ein, then you're sure indom goes to ein

[clear wave]

Yes I'm just saving pulls atm

[clear wave]

Sorry

[tropic summit]

looks like you're set then

[radiant storm]

But Im more concerned to Emilia in the comp, but I'll try

[brazen ledge]

Ye you have scarlet as good dps, Alice is ok too but besides that you done have rly good dps b3 for arena

Dont

[tropic summit]

hmm why you think so? is her atk% high enough to bother ein and RH?

we using her only as battery there and offburst dps

[tropic summit]

to make a few solid teams you'd need at least rumani and anis in sync

[clear wave]

I see I'll sync em then

[radiant storm]

Cuz sometimes Indo Blanc gets to the wrong holder, for ex in that T2 Comp, Ein/Rh/Emilia

[tropic summit]

until then, teams provided by Echo are still good enough

Blanc/Scarlet/ liter/ biscuit/Anis
Noise/Crown/Privaty/noir/pepper

@clear wave

[radiant storm]

Maybe Blanc will give it to Ein or Emilia

[tropic summit]

indom will go to either ein or rh or jackal, because they'll damage share, emi is in p4 so won't be hit by splash

indom goes to the lowest HP in the team at the moment of cast

jackal will dmg share with ein and RH, but if ein is the lowest HP in the link, she'll be likely the lowest at blanc burst

that's the reasoning

[radiant storm]

Oke Doke, I'l change it tomorrow then

[tropic summit]

yup, let's see if it holds better, should be an upgrade overall

[radiant storm]

The T1, whats the reason behind Pos 1 Naga?

[tropic summit]

flex B2 unit

can be any B2 on high CP and possibly least feed

once you've rumani that team becomes noise centi cind flex rumani (still needs to hit 3RL or 2RL, if battery is helmT can hit 2RL)

[clear wave]

Just to add i just got D killer wife

[tropic summit]

won't improve any team

she's good for pve and tower

[copper goblet]

only girl i dont have on my roster is Flora and some old limited units, who should i switch out/in?

[radiant storm]

Wish this def team luck

[swift mango]

Finally OL my Rossana... 3 ele lines, 3 def line, only 9.7% atK...

And 2 hit rate lines as well..

Good enough I guess...

[swift mango]

Make sure Ein got linked

Also, lower HP than both Jackal and the other link.

Gl

[brazen ledge]

I think you care more about the atk than anything else

She basically needs her 40% atk

[swift mango]

I care more about CP 😶

[brazen ledge]

Ok

[swift mango]

When I have more rock I would chase atk lines and 3 lines but for now she had to make do with it

[urban tiger]

How successful are newer characters for rookie arena? Did anything change?

[swift mango]

No one really care about rookie and nothing changed there

[tropic summit]

nothing much for rookie, minus the helmT allowing an easier 2RL

although 2RL was already achievable

[tropic summit]

T3 is a bit weird, multiple SGs are gonna ask for an easier enemy scarlet

T1 indom RH is not as effective as other indoms

i guess you could work on those two for starters

to give you proper def teams we need your box with nikke ordered by strength, first 3-4 lines are usually enough

[copper goblet]

many nikkes not pictured but heres my top 6 lines, willing to invest in nikkes not pictures

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[pale sage]

Does Rumani have better burst generation then Jackal and Anis ??

[tropic summit]

oh, any treasured nikke btw? helm or laplace or drake

[copper goblet]

laplace is treasured but not heavy investment, drake and helm dont have their favorite items (though i wish they did)

[tropic summit]

rumani is slightly worse but still CLIP RL range

[swift mango]

One day Brothas one day.

Do helm first ofc, drake can be whatever

[copper goblet]

well first i need another purple SR doll and a bajillion maintenance items 🙃

[pale sage]

Is that a list of the best burst generations. Where can I find the full list. Id love to have that ??

[cedar orbit]

in the pinned comments

[pale sage]

Appreciate the help. Thank you

[swift mango]

Check pin > Keripo comment > Burst calculator speardsheet > burst gen chart

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
naga centi cind xmaiden noise
noah biscuit rapu s.anis emi

cubes:

quantum on jackal, centi, emi
vigor on biscuit, rapu, blanc
resil on s.anis
other nikke run highest lvl available cube

notes/wishlist: rumani, helmT, consider laplaceT after helm or drake

if rumani/helmT, can sub noir T1 or naga in T2

[copper goblet]

thanks! I have rumani shes just very low investment rn, ill pump some resources into her so she can replace noir

[tropic summit]

yep sounds good

[swift mango]

Drake treasure looks strong for buffing ASS or B Soda wipe.... Kinda niche. Helm still much better...

[tropic summit]

helm is her own tierlist in terms of battery

they released a monster

[swift mango]

Not just burst gen, her skill 2 is basically Drake T s1+2 improvement combined

[copper goblet]

since rumani is just battery she basically just needs to be 4/4/4 right? Like how much is it even worth it to OL her gear

[swift mango]

101% worth it if you are competitive in arena

[copper goblet]

oh well, i just wanted to be cheap lmao

4/4/4 is enough though right? since thats what prydwen says

[swift mango]

Yeah, mine is 545. But 444 is fine.

Give her doll too...

Sr0 could be fine if you want to be cheap.

[copper goblet]

yeah i gave her a blue doll, dont have extra SRs

[umbral crown]

Ola amikos

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

Como estas

[grizzled bone]

Que lo que

[keen vapor]

I'll never be that cheap

[keen reef]

Could someone help me set up a pvp team without Scarlet and XAnne? I'm a newbie

[keen vapor]

Post your units

[keen reef]

@keen vapor

[keen vapor]

Hey

You guys think we will get Anne rerun with maid event?

[keen reef]

Im using this team

[keen vapor]

Well more likely after Collab.... Or with second anni

[keen reef]

I need her...

[keen vapor]

Ok, those first two teams are kind of good

But that third team ..... Nope

[keen reef]

yes, this is my bad

[keen vapor]

Is that Diesel treasure?

[keen reef]

yep

and full

overload

[crystal flicker]

Yeah, I need XAnne

[swift mango]

Your stack of CD boxes though

[crystal flicker]

Though I still have tons of Nikke awaiting to get OL

[keen vapor]

What do you think blood? We cope an do a diesel team

[swift mango]

Diesel against what? Rapipi Blanc?

[keen vapor]

What is the level diff between you and top 3 challengers?

[crystal flicker]

oh

[tropic summit]

oi, he's less bricked than you are against your own opponents @keen vapor

[keen vapor]

404 in C4 is worse than me though

[tropic summit]

oh not so bad then I thought i remember it being worse but it might be b4 you opened a few boxes

[keen vapor]

What about challenger 3, 2 and 1

[keen reef]

idk

[keen vapor]

The only +400 in my bracket is C1

The others are less

[keen vapor]

Ranking list...

[crystal flicker]

He might able to beat C4 though

[keen vapor]

But the CP difference looks already big

[tropic summit]

noice, there's hope then

[crystal flicker]

He only needs 1,628,336 to avoid deficit

[calm kettle]

@slender forge 7 eh

[crystal flicker]

C3 seems viable

[keen reef]

My goal is not the first, I just want to find a good time like the one I have. I don't know what to invest in first.

I don't have parts to compete for rank, just invest the right characters.

[tropic summit]

you can compete with CH3, CH2 and CH1 is extra nasty because it's the same union

[crystal flicker]

I just checked, so you are Scarletless

[keen vapor]

~~Forbidden literature ~~
-# He never read that book

[tropic summit]

oh noes, the D word

[swift mango]

That's 371 vs 404 though. Not 341.

[keen vapor]

Whale word

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

either way the lad needs to fix their cindy and sbs team

seems like an indom emi and 3RL cindy would do

i'll leave it to echo capable hands while i decide what to do before dinner 🤔

the problem of having just done groceries is that i've so many options now...

[crystal flicker]

Take a bath

[keen vapor]

Team 2
Scarlet Alter/ Blanc/RH/Centi/Jackal

Team 3
Mmmmm yes, you don't have Bay or Moran to cope with bad B2 unit

[tropic summit]

already done, felt amazing

[crystal flicker]

Regular Anis exist though

[swift mango]

I just took as bath as well...

[keen vapor]

There's no Rumani either so I can't cook Cindy buffless team

Why you don't show me all your units

[tropic summit]

my favourite, naga flex (sad for feed but CP is CP)

[unique wagon]

You shouldn't have Naga cp pad that much

[keen vapor]

I'm searching for survivability sir

[tropic summit]

a wild kisenix appears

[keen vapor]

Why no

[unique wagon]

Ure cp padding a filler unit sir

[crystal flicker]

That burst gen already heavy with Rossy and Cindy

[tropic summit]

how about these cute ladies?

[unique wagon]

Poli and Biscuit is budget tank. Noise is good.

[slender forge]

Pro 🐳 🌊 🏳️

[keen vapor]

Whale!

[swift mango]

Just do a Sacr and hope the best

[slender forge]

whel is talking

[calm kettle]

nooo u not me

[slender forge]

me noob at pvp dia 2 🧱 🏳️

[unique wagon]

Catch me if u can

Btw can u find me my valorant friend who moved to Italy a few years back

[tropic summit]

[tropic summit]

i've played valorant for less than probably 10hrs, doubt i managed to even get to know a single italian in that time frame

where did he go though, north or south italy?

if he went south he might not be alive anymore, depending on the city

[tropic summit]

i know it's kinda feed heavy on cindy team, but we got better choices? without tanking CP with an anis?

@keen vapor

also sad we can't use alice as flex in T2, she'd steal link

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Try bursting with SSakura instead of Emi

[tropic summit]

oh good idea blood, this looks better

@keen vapor

removed noir, added CP pad on T2, kept 3RL on T1 and added extra taunter

let's wait for le Echo final judgement and seems good to go

[keen vapor]

Better

But, Tia will taunt as well so Summer Anis should stay on P3

[tropic summit]

hmm makes sense, avoid splash

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit s.anis rapu tia
ssakura blanc rh emi jackal
naga centi cindy la+ noise

cubes:

quantum on jackal, centi
vigor on biscuit, noise, blanc, rapu
temperance on noah, tia
resil on s.anis (s.anis must be burst lvl9, no ammo OL's)

wishlist/notes:

get helmT, drakeT, rumani

[wise horizon]

In the video, I barely won but since then I lost twice using this team on T1. What could I do to change that? Don’t have Noah or rapunzel

[glad meteor]

2RL cindy maybe

What do we think about this

[lunar dirge]

washed regardless

[wise horizon]

i was thinking to switch Red Hood out for Rumania

[lunar dirge]

gl killing anything with 0 buff emilia

[glad meteor]

I’m thinking xmaiden may get biscuit s2

[lunar dirge]

or his biscuit might just die

p2 victim position

[glad meteor]

I think it may have a chance, since you burst between 2.5-3RL depending on emi s1 + OL. But can’t confirm

They have more emi cs though

[lunar dirge]

gold

[wise horizon]

emilia 4 7 7 and is OL geared

[glad meteor]

Don’t think you have enough charge speed to be indom before emi 4th hit

If you switch rh for rumani

[vapid lake]

Looks like we got a gem spender here or he saved those 4 extra attacks from last month just for this moment

[wise horizon]

or could change to this.

[glad meteor]

Your nuke get’s blocked. Need to be 2RL

Or 5RL

[glad meteor]

This comp allows emi to die, and indom sanis to hit into noah while biscuit s2’d, + longer indom. But idk

[tropic summit]

2RL or 2.5RL indom scarlet? kill emi pre burst then let scarlet solo RH B3? she'll counter her to death, p3 and p4 might live, you'll lose linked characters

should procc both biscuit s2 once she nukes

[glad meteor]

Laplace is pretty important there

[tropic summit]

yeah it's a very specific counter there, dunno if natsu can pull that card

i like the s.anis approach tho

[wise horizon]

could try T1 IndomScarlet against their T1 but it leaves T3 with not much to use or try T2 against their T1

[keen vapor]

@tropic summit Noah SBS 2.5 RL didn't work

[tropic summit]

oh boy

didn't survive post nuke?

[tropic summit]

go with Kara suggestion perhaps? It does seem interesting

#pvp-arena message

[keen vapor]

Are you sure? Against Scar indom?

[tropic summit]

got any different ideas? s.anis is for their emi team not scarlet btw

(talking about natsu matchup just to clarify)

[keen vapor]

I can beat Noah Cindy emi team

But I can't against Scarlet Alter with Bay or Scarlet indom

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message yeah it wasn't for your match

in your case if SBS doesn't work we might need to consider attacking the other team then

unless you got any 2RL variations left with stalling

[frozen nebula]

unfortunately, it didn't work.

[tropic summit]

hmm we can assume they running 2RL noah and 3RL indom emi 🤔

gonna need to get creative and get 2 teams on 2RL and 2.5RL

[frozen nebula]

this guy^, probably not the same team they run on ATK

[tropic summit]

try this next:

cubes are pretty much unchanged as for previous post

#pvp-arena message

[frozen nebula]

Will try

[rustic sandal]

How to beat this???

[tropic summit]

privaty and s.anis together, the scarlet dream

[tropic summit]

any of these 2

[rustic sandal]

Ty 🙏🏻 first one sweeped it

[tropic summit]

whenever you see multiple SGs/ARs/MGs/SMGs, scarlet+jackal is generally the right answer

at times even just 1 SG is enough

[wise horizon]

@tropic summit @glad meteor didn’t work unfortunately

[eager mountain]

noahless rip

[umbral belfry]

@tropic summit

[glad meteor]

Forgot Red hood p5

that r3 was close

[umbral belfry]

time to cook a team again?

[wise horizon]

ah you are right! dammit!!! forgot to put RH in pos5 for T1

[tropic summit]

eh might be, post your current 3 teams again

[tropic summit]

but you're getting there 🤔

[wise horizon]

T3 is dependent on CP deficit to win. 17.6 CP deficit

[umbral belfry]

this defense has been very solid tho, hasn't broken once yet

[tropic summit]

hmmm might be able to replace naga once biscuit is built, for now keep it as is, once you get biscuit a bit more CP we can consider her there, rest is fine (we used mana for the other one, all good)

[umbral belfry]

ok dok, ty ty!

[tropic summit]

you can probably use her on attack instead, if you ever feel a p1 defender is not able to survive long enough to burst, can throw a biscuit in there

[umbral belfry]

when the day comes when i get to attack again ill keep that in mind!

[tropic summit]

it needs to be strictly defender, no supporter or attacker as those don't procc biscuit invulnerability, just keep it mind

[tropic summit]

haha alright

[wise horizon]

There you go! @tropic summit @glad meteor

[umbral belfry]

you mean that p1 needs to be strictly a defender right?

[eager mountain]

ye

[glad meteor]

[umbral belfry]

[tropic summit]

wew, the s.anis call was great, sassuga @glad meteor

[visual willow]

what would be a good rookie attack team to beat this? 3RL? or standard noah/biscuit/rapunz team?

[wise horizon]

Thanks to you two xD @glad meteor

[tropic summit]

that sir is a single buff scarlet with indom

you're going to need a 2RL equivalent noah team, then you'll need to survive 10s of scarlet indom autos

a common counter to that is a team with noah and biscuit, hitting 2RL, SBS is generally the B3

[brazen ledge]

hi guys, today's mission is this guy first

[tropic summit]

i'd go this

alternatively this if you don't have emi

[brazen ledge]

i have emi21

i sent box yesterday

[tropic summit]

yeah remains unchanged

[eager mountain]

bold of u to not remember his whole box!

[tropic summit]

makes it worse that my memory is utter shit because i see too many boxes per day