pvp-arena

[rigid inlet]

I just want to know who's meta now for pvp, I need a good rookie team and sp 3 teams

[strong hull]

[keen vapor]

[strong hull]

[rich quail]

[keen vapor]

Emilia but not Rumani, so I need to modify rail cook

[rigid inlet]

It's possible to check the teams of ranking players in game?

Teams for rookie and sp

[rich quail]

nope

[keen vapor]

Only their CP power
Other than that you can check Nikke level on their profile

i said power twice, smh

[rigid inlet]

Can you share your current rookie and sp teams?

[keen vapor]

Replace Rumani with Moran

As for rookie, use the first team

With Centi instead of Anis

[rigid inlet]

Thanks for this!

[keen vapor]

Wait, 6 months

[keen vapor]

Ok, add Scarlet black shadow instead of the mentioned Cinderella

[rigid inlet]

I don't remember if I stopped more or less than that

Cinderella is good?

Thanks I'll do it

[keen vapor]

Yes

But you don't have her invested

[lucid belfry]

this is my box now @keen vapor

so i add ice maiden to my pvp team?

[rigid inlet]

Yup, I just came to the game to pull her and stopped again

The same with young Rapunzel and some others

[keen vapor]

It might drop CP so I'll look for higher CP option first

But eventually yes

[lucid belfry]

what should i change?

[keen vapor]

Wait, I need to cook

[keen vapor]

Then 6 months after all?

[keen vapor]

Ugh Jackal and Blanc are almost on the bottom of synched units

259.... Won't have tempering cube

Can you overload them?

Also, how are your doll mats looking

[keen vapor]

Maintenance kits to be clear

[rigid inlet]

Ok I remembered, I stopped playing in the collab of Evangelion, I was so frustrated because ai can't pull for Rei

How many times since that?

[keen vapor]

Between August and September?

So yes, 6 months

[rigid inlet]

Yes around that

[keen vapor]

Enough for one R doll to phase 15...

[rigid inlet]

Btw what can I do with this? I want to try to consume the max of this to lvl up characters the max possible

How can I use/convert this properly to level up

[keen vapor]

The problem with converting battle data to core dust is that you will lack battle data to level up if you're not careful

[keen vapor]

Maybe 8 levels....

[keen vapor]

Not really sure about that, a rough guess

[grizzled bone]

[rigid inlet]

Yes thats my problem, Im afraid I run out of data it seems a lot but isn't

[grizzled bone]

what level are you?

[rigid inlet]

Characters level?

[keen vapor]

364
6 months returner

[keen vapor]

Is always that

[rigid inlet]

This

[keen vapor]

Commander level doesn't do anything

So it's always synch (character) level

[grizzled bone]

@rigid inlet

credits, bd, dust in that order

https://nikke-db.pages.dev/tools
you can use this link for a calculator for your sync levels as well

you have 27,951,479 if i read that correctly?

[rigid inlet]

Did you calculate with my current materials number?

Or is that a kind of graphic showing some calculation?

[grizzled bone]

that's just to show the resource requirements for each synchro level until you hit 400

[rigid inlet]

I got that plus 8k boxes to open

Oooh I get it

So I need to try to convert till get that values to get the lvl 400

[grizzled bone]

yeah but you also don't want to use all your BD either

idk how much CD and Credits you have

[rigid inlet]

Yes, I need to keep at least 4,762,250 right?

[grizzled bone]

but with those requirements in mind and the calculator available you should be able to figure out what excess of BD you'll never use so that you can convert it to whatever you need

[rigid inlet]

I got a low amount

Cd I have 6471636

And dust probably nothing

[grizzled bone]

you should also keep in mind synchro milestones
you'll get a boost at 381, 401, 421, etc.

[rigid inlet]

When I reach that lvls?

They give me a boost?

[grizzled bone]

yeah they should give you a noticeable stat boost at those milestones

so let's say you're shooting for 381 first (again you can use https://nikke-db.pages.dev/tools)
these would be your requirements to get to that milestone

[rigid inlet]

Yup I already tried it! This is very helpful

The problem is those numbers are unreadable lol

Idk if is tons or millions in the moment I will convert

We always need to count the numbers there

[grizzled bone]

you mean in the Exchange Shop?

[rigid inlet]

In the moment of converting

I never converted anything yet

[grizzled bone]

yeah so that's why you should be aware of the level requirements first. Once you have a total you can work backwards and convert only what you need

just be aware the exchange rate isn't ideal, some may even call it a scam lol and it makes it easy to over-convert your BD

[rigid inlet]

I'll do that definitely

Thanks a lot for this, it helped!

About rookie teams and sp teams

The picture above with some suggestions, for rookie, it works for def and atk also?

[rigid inlet]

This

[rigid inlet]

@keen vapor are you there? That picture with teams you send me works as deff and offense as well? And that first team you mentioned for rookies is a continuation that works for sp arena too?

Because there are some duplicates units there

[quick lake]

They’re generally defence teams. Ideally for attack teams u tailor them to ur opponents

[swift mango]

You are free to exchange all the BD... Keep the cases though.

At least 1000

[rigid inlet]

Thanks, do you have any sp team recommendations, or some pictures with some suggestions?

[rigid inlet]

I will use the same for atk, I don't know who to use at this moment

[rigid inlet]

The cases you mean the boxes?

[swift mango]

Yes

Also, exchange them as you level up. If you exchange them all and zero BD to level up you are screwed

[rigid inlet]

I'll do that, I always will calculate how much I need just to convert that amount to level up

[swift mango]

Can just convert half, level up. Then convert half again.

[rigid inlet]

In this moment I need only 3 suggestions of teams for sp arena

[rigid inlet]

I see, I will try to save the maximum I can, not waste all in one conversion

These are my units, any sp defence and attack teams?

[crystal flicker]

I had to mileage Cindy, Grave, and Rapipi

[strong hull]

Poor man

310 pulls not a single cinderella

How come

[swift mango]

Same

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Blanc RH Centi Jackal
Noah Biscuit SAnis Pepper Anis/Poli
Noise XAnne Emi Rapu Noir
Consider getting Helm's Treasure and build Cindy

[strong hull]

@quick lake rex boy wanna cook my bricked Account?

[quick lake]

Sure if u wanna

[strong hull]

[strong hull]

Ill be back

Gotta do var check

[rustic sandal]

I haven't messed with my Special Arena teams in a while, is there a best teams for Atk and Def? I have all the meta units except Noah

[quick lake]

No best teams. All defence can be cracked. We just make do with what we have

[crystal flicker]

I should've get Helm from step up banner ngl

[quick lake]

What did u get instead

[crystal flicker]

Saving lol

[quick lake]

Then cant u get her now?

[crystal flicker]

How

[quick lake]

Oh like u didnt send in the step up banner?

Bold choice

[crystal flicker]

I'm inactive for 2 weeks

[quick lake]

She’ll spook you eventually

[crystal flicker]

Yeh, I'm wishlisting her

I haven't get any PIlgrims ever since they added them to wishlist ngl

[strong hull]

Build him 3 decent defs

[loud sonnet]

I haven't get any banner characters since cindy banner

[rustic sandal]

Pls :3

[quick lake]

If u want help, can send ur full roster

[crystal flicker]

frfr

[quick lake]

My recommendation is always:
Scar Blanc RH flex Jackal
Noah Centi Biscuit Cindy Noise
Auto

[strong hull]

He has everything except Noah so considering he does have Emi

[loud sonnet]

Makima?

[rustic sandal]

Otherwise yeah I can send the fuuull roster

Yup got all the limiteds

[crystal flicker]

No NOah and RUmani

[rustic sandal]

[quick lake]

Send ur full box, sorted by CP

[crystal flicker]

Wonder if Anchor(age) is good for PvP since she's RL

[quick lake]

Has her niche definitely

[crystal flicker]

Imagine if she's clip RL

[quick lake]

Dont think so

[white compass]

Will this defend my spot in high diamond lol

[crystal flicker]

Depends

[quick lake]

Possibly

Defence always gets cracked if opponent knows what they’re doing

[white compass]

Cause I suck at attacking

[crystal flicker]

On equal ground, yes. Against whale, probably

[white compass]

I hate clawing my way back up cause I might fail lol

[quick lake]

Yeah I feel u

[quartz prawn]

Just ask rheax if it looks winnable

[crystal flicker]

Just push lol

[fallow coral]

Hello, could I ask for help on building an attack team 🙏

[crystal flicker]

I fell to D1 and manage to get C5, maybe C1 but will absolutely fall again

[quick lake]

Get Jackal to 17% CS

[graceful grotto]

[keen vapor]

Mag

She doesn't has weird reload speed

Also all clips have terrible kits

[strong hull]

I have 4atk line jack

[keen vapor]

Of course

Leave the target

[graceful grotto]

Who's the clip we have now again?

Rumani, Centi, Jackal

[keen vapor]

And Anis

[swift mango]

She is basically Folkwang EX...

[graceful grotto]

Big yikes lmao

[quick lake]

Jackal is a pretty decent unit to get 15-17% CS. Allows u to hit 2.5RL with Jackal feed if opponent is bad

[white compass]

[fallow coral]

I was gonna add jackal, noah, and Cindy but I don’t know who else to add

[keen vapor]

The others have burst gen on their kits (helm, Emilia, ice maiden, Laplace)

[white compass]

Damn how much rocks 17cs jackal take

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet

[keen vapor]

Funnily enough, Rapunzel doesn't has burst gen on their skills yet she has a higher one

Is it the heal? Cuz I doubt so

[quick lake]

Less than ur SR units

[white compass]

What kinda godly cs rolls u get

[fallow coral]

I don’t have scarlet

[white compass]

Lol I thought SR vs SSR for a sec

[quick lake]

If u have natural 4.92% cs on ur units, its much cheaper

[quick lake]

Alright gimme a sec

[quick lake]

Oh wow, u're behind on sync in ur bracket. Pvp gonna be tough

[fallow coral]

(I’m also stuck at the 160 wall )

[swift mango]

I had 3 4.92% CS on Grave, is it counted

[crystal flicker]

Why even you use Grave for PvP

[swift mango]

She help Scarlet reach 2rl easier

[rustic sandal]

How do you know that/check that

And yeah idk why I get put in these brackets

[crystal flicker]

I thought she needs to burst for her passive burst gen?

[keen vapor]

Me everyday

[swift mango]

He normal Regen about that of mag RL

[crystal flicker]

frfr

[quick lake]

Can try this

[quick lake]

U're a day 1 player?

[rustic sandal]

Damn I guess I need Rumani huh

[rustic sandal]

Yeah I made the account back then but kinda dropped it until CSM collab came around

[quick lake]

Yeahh, Rumani really impt for pvp. Initial 4 OLs would do

[quick lake]

Hm yeah will be tough. Ur bracket should be mostly 481-501+ peeps

[crystal flicker]

still not worth imo

[quick lake]

for?

[crystal flicker]

grave

I'm behind ~20sync in my bracket, and those top 5 literally has 1 random team just to out cp me

Unbelieaveable lmao

[quick lake]

Grave is actually pretty decent. Good burst gen + good attack buff. Abit underated. Not many ppl will have Mari/xAnne built either

[crystal flicker]

Not to mention I still have some Nikkes without full OLs and SR15 Dolls

Still think there's better option than her

[quick lake]

We dont have a lot of good B2 buffers. xAnne, Mari, Grave, Crown, Blanc thats about it

[crystal flicker]

yeah

I prefer get more burst gen from B2

[quick lake]

Blanc pairs with Blanc+SAnis or Emilia Blanc RH teams. Crown feeds too much. We're left with xAnne Mari and Grave

[crystal flicker]

I need XAnne rerun ngl

[keen vapor]

Anne has better buffing than Anchor?

[quick lake]

Anne still better at buffing, 75% atk iirc

[swift mango]

And Anchor... Anchor should be better than Anne sometime

[quick lake]

Yeah. Anchor overheal is pretty good

[swift mango]

Basically Folkwang...

[quick lake]

Better folkwang

[swift mango]

Kind feel bad when she has 60% overhead but only 40% heal...

Probably won't help Scarlet survive a wipe....

[keen vapor]

She has HP potency buff

[crystal flicker]

Blanc Noah exist for a reason

[keen vapor]

Noise Anne

[swift mango]

Hp maybe I need to level up healing cube now ..

[keen vapor]

I haven't checked but, how are the reward in this raid?

[swift mango]

Same as last raid?

[keen vapor]

8k + 8k?

[swift mango]

I guess, did you get 16k last time?

[coarse lake]

no

ranks matter now

and what day you clear normal

day 1 normal clear is 8k + ranking

[keen vapor]

Souka

New year gift is over

[rigid inlet]

Thanks! What is treasure? Is that the thing we can get on dispatch? I thought I already had sufficient material to get the special item for someone but not, I don't understand so well how it works

[keen vapor]

Yes, only def

For attack you show target and we cook

[swift mango]

With Lv7 healing cube Anchor would be barely enough to fill her overheal

[crystal flicker]

Yes, you need 3 star and level 15 SR Dolls to unlock Treasure for a Nikke

[swift mango]

Vigor is basically useless on her

[upper grove]

2 stars + SR15 doll

[crystal flicker]

yeh

Bond 30 + Lv 15 SR Doll

[keen vapor]

I won't be able to cook before sleeping sorry Rex, another 8 hours pls

[upper grove]

I have to pray for enough mats for Helm SR15 this solo raid

[crystal flicker]

I don't even have Helm

This game bricked frfr

[keen vapor]

So you needed more than selector from the start

[upper grove]

I was about to ask: selector already used?

[swift mango]

Just check again, her potency buff only trigger on full burst. It doesn't help her B2 heal at all.... So with Healing cube lv7 she get to around 47% heal on 60% overheal...

Man...

[knotty fern]

5 whales, how fun.

thanks for this board, every reset gets worst

every damn reshuffle , gets worst, adds one freaking whale

[crystal flicker]

We have selector?

[swift mango]

They likely just one whale and the rest sweaty player with you lagging behind in CP and level.

[knotty fern]

and im -10 server difference than these freaks too

how am i in this board, give me someone at the same server

[swift mango]

Just 10? I'm at 20+ lol

[knotty fern]

can imagine it get worst from here

[crystal flicker]

fr

[knotty fern]

every reshuffle

old players quit and whales just keep coming to my board xd

[rigid inlet]

Thanks! I can get treasure for frima, miranda and exia. Which one of these 3 are better to get?

These 3 are ready to get treasure

[swift mango]

You could be basically having an @keen vapor experience

[crystal flicker]

They're niche imo

[rigid inlet]

I will put on Miranda

I like her 😚😚

[crystal flicker]

Just start dispatch for Helm treasure

She's broken asf

[upper grove]

The best reason

[swift mango]

Yeah, I don't think reshiffle will ever get you a better bracket but who knows....

[rigid inlet]

I'm doing that already

[upper grove]

New year selector just passed. 6600 gems for selector

[crystal flicker]

I can see Miranda treasure for bossing

[crystal flicker]

I skipped that

[rigid inlet]

I use Miranda in some contents

[upper grove]

Miranda for snow white snipes

[crystal flicker]

yeah maybe for raid

[upper grove]

6600 gems discounted pulls & selector was decent deal

[swift mango]

I got basically nothing on that 31 pulls but I saw some peeps got 2 Pilgrims...

[upper grove]

Yeah I got like 3 dupes of meh characters but I had no bunny soda so I pulled for selector. Then friendship pull happened

Anchor and Mast are so skill book heavy. Helm eating everything

[swift mango]

At least you got SSR

[crystal flicker]

fr

[swift mango]

Should work just fine at 555 both... But I'm only considering about Anchor ..

Maybe I could always get her in next year selector.

[upper grove]

Both 555 is still fine then, not too expensive

SU should slow down with decent units, I need a break

[crystal flicker]

444

[sand tusk]

I managed to reach challenger before the reset and when I checked they had already returned me to diamond lol

[whole pawn]

helm T?

I don't have them xd sadge

so my current def teams is enough?

[whole pawn]

i need a new def team for rookie arena

[drifting hazel]

Bro I’m looking at my PvP bracket, the kid in 12 has 4 MGs and 4 ARs across his teams literally has no pvp team, but I’m only bricked by synchro levels

[whole pawn]

huh

this kinda need a change ig

[crystal flicker]

More likely needs more upgrade

[whole pawn]

what if I want to change units?

[crystal flicker]

To what?

[drifting hazel]

I’m guessing your Rumani is low in cp

[whole pawn]

smt else? is this def team good enough? or there might be better options?

[crystal flicker]

That's good team for Rookie, just lack CP

[whole pawn]

yeah..

[drifting hazel]

Same as I no mats to go around for her

[whole pawn]

she wasn't even in my priorities, I got her cuz she hot

possible?

[crystal flicker]

Where Scarlet

[whole pawn]

this is attack not def

[crystal flicker]

yeah

[whole pawn]

and cindy is built more than sca

[crystal flicker]

You don't run Scarlet and Jackal separately

[whole pawn]

cuz i got scar recently

[whole pawn]

ok do i put centi biscuit?

[crystal flicker]

This Rookie yeah?

[whole pawn]

yeah

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet in

[whole pawn]

scarlet is weak,,,,

do i use sbs?.

jackal grave sbs alice rumani?

[crystal flicker]

Whats your cp with Scarlet RH Cindy Centi/Rumani Jackal?

[whole pawn]

low

scarlet isnt built no need to use her

cindy or sbs are better to use

[crystal flicker]

Well, you just need more than 215K CP to avoid deficit

for that fight

[whole pawn]

core 1 cindy

[crystal flicker]

yeh

Should build Scarlet asap

[whole pawn]

i m trying to ol supports

i still have to ol rumani centi

is scarlet better than cindy to this point?

[crystal flicker]

just prioritize Scarlet if you can for PvP

[whole pawn]

i m surprised

[crystal flicker]

Ideal team for Rookie is Scarlet x x x Jackal, with x x x as RL for burst gen or CP pad

[whole pawn]

ok i will finish my biscuit boot and go for scarlet, i still need vest for her thats why i didnt bother

[whole pawn]

ok next target is scarlet

i hate this guy xd

he is like a big wall

[crystal flicker]

cp gap yeah

[drifting hazel]

He’s got Crown in there, hella cp padding right there

[whole pawn]

crown..

this guy too

[crystal flicker]

Full OL level 5 + level 15 SR Dolls

[whole pawn]

wait how do u know?

u say his full team is maxed ol and doll?

[crystal flicker]

Rough comparison, level 0 OL & 15 SR Doll

Same sync, just different OL level & Limit break

[whole pawn]

damn I have a long way

tho no crown

[crystal flicker]

Maybe he doesn't have or his Crown isn't that big

[whole pawn]

me when no crown

[crystal flicker]

Wishlist

[whole pawn]

helm was on wishlist for 6 months since I started and nothing xd

[strong hull]

No crown?

How salty

[whole pawn]

it's not my fault.

[strong hull]

[whole pawn]

I should have kept rerolling, I started with modernia thinking it well turns out good

not even helm wanna come

[crystal flicker]

fr

[tropic summit]

Unbuffed scarlet will tickle, can kill her with SBS or emi or Cindy, s.anis will suicide on scarlet, but if noah taunts she ll fire only burst at her which is good to kill her without triggering counters

[whole pawn]

helm

[whole pawn]

there is no way.....

[tropic summit]

Went on vacation or IRL stuff?

[crystal flicker]

Nah, I'm trying Valorant lol

And kinda tired of Nikke daily everyday

[tropic summit]

Oooh burning out uh... I see

[crystal flicker]

I think this is a win

[whole pawn]

damn i wish i have noah, or noise, or crown, or sanis..

[eager mountain]

all ull ever need is liberalio

[crystal flicker]

It's not a flex though

[whole pawn]

ik, I m just coping

[whole pawn]

does she even exist?

[upper grove]

Not having to deal with sanis

[eager mountain]

in our heart

[whole pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/mets-baseball-homerun-gif-12571819431418851501

[eager mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/whhyyyy-vanish-vanish-emoji-emoji-vanish-whhhyyyy-gif-10057259719602444514

[glad meteor]

● Champion Arena: March

A simulation-style Arena mode where Commanders with top rankings in the SP Arena face off in a tournament-style competition.

From dev note

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

March 2027 🤔

[tropic summit]

that's surprisingly sooner than i'd think, figured it would be past middle of 2025 and no sooner and yet 🤨

@keen vapor my mica is not ready for this

[vapid lake]

don't worry when march comes champ arena won't be in it then they'll stay silent and hope people forget that they said it's coming in march

[quick lake]

Wow, we finally have a timeline

[radiant storm]

Funny to See Championship Arena

Imagine your sync is 400+

[vapid lake]

they say only the top ranking gets to participate so i'm gonna assume it's all the 10 challengers

[radiant storm]

Vs a Sync 801 whale

[swift mango]

Yeah, my roster isn't ready

[quick lake]

When they say March means, May

[whole pawn]

do i have a chance

[quick lake]

Need to factor in bugs

[swift mango]

Nah we are marching there.

[radiant storm]

Depends if your bracket doesn't have a whale/leviatan

How will you win with current sync vs max sync whale 🥲

[swift mango]

They mean c1 only

[raven plover]

no way

[quick lake]

sync locked surely

[radiant storm]

I think not, just like other games

[vapid lake]

hoboman the prophet

[radiant storm]

Whales gonna prefer this one

[swift mango]

Synch lock lower level still lose. Some level press only whale gonna lose out though.

[swift mango]

Hobo is hidden game dev confirmed

[quick lake]

Should be sync locked tbh

[raven plover]

and I have no mats for moran nero

[quick lake]

We’ll see

[swift mango]

Please make Noah point reward. ☠️

[frank ingot]

champion arena in march?

[swift mango]

Let's see which arena viable burst 2 I currently have built... Centi, Anis, Blanc, Bay, Grave, biscuit, Crown... Yeah I'm so cooked...

B1, RH, Rumani, Jackal, Noise, Moran... Barely enough for 5...

[raven plover]

me trying to bring out makima from the grave

[swift mango]

Rossana is almost there... Lacking is skill books though and good OL rolls...

[tropic summit]

5 shotgun nikke teams incoming

[swift mango]

I don't have enough for Viper... Best I could do is RH+4SG...

Or HelmT+Rosa+2SG...

I'm thinking of getting Anchor alright...

But won't build her up in time for march...

This is hard

[tropic summit]

well you could consider 4 teams well built and a 5th team just 4RL or put a sacc

[quick lake]

Still have a month at least

[swift mango]

Barely enough to build HelmT + one more nikke

Gotta build Pepper...

Scar+Grave+Pepper+Centi+Jack is 2rl

[tropic summit]

hmm investing resources in nikke you'll barely use just to get in time for the very first season might not be advisable... may just play "casual" the first season so you've time to build actual stuff 🤔

[swift mango]

Pepper is good to have though. She is highest burst gen "b1 buffer" in the game...

Along side xMica but she doesn't need max skill

Like xmica

[quick lake]

We still dk how ca works too. If really only rank 1 qualifies…

Ill prob hoard rocks and skill mats until then

[swift mango]

Yeah you have 17% on everything already so better go hoarding mode... Maybe build your Rosa if you didn't

[quick lake]

Yeahh

[swift mango]

Pepper+Maid Mast+Scarlet seems to be pretty viable in CA to me... Yeah they feed but the is only 1/5 jackal....

[glad meteor]

Pepper buff scar stacks?

[swift mango]

Yeah, and maybe mast stack as well

[glad meteor]

I was thinking of using pepper in sg team, scar or jackal bait probably. But it is what it is.

[raven plover]

my prediction of CA gameplay #pvp-arena message

if it happens people gonna complain

auto battle

[quick lake]

They alr said its 5 teams

[raven plover]

ye except its 5 teams

[quick lake]

My teams are planned for atk = def tbh.

But that might be too boring

Live banning units and 1 min to craft teams on the spots would be interesting

[boreal surge]

PVP squad?

[austere jacinth]

Youre not him

[boreal surge]

It my account 3

[vapid lake]

that's too sweaty for a one handed casual gacha game

it's 100% going to be unfair and automated in some way

its pvp in a gacha game

[tropic summit]

trial run cooking 5CA teams 🤔

it's surprisingly easier than i thought even without considering HelmT, i'm gonna try without collab units later

and possibly without limited too

thoughts? @keen vapor

#pvp-arena message

[glad meteor]

They sbs is mid because of sakura fire

[quick lake]

Solo Raid is sweaty

[tropic summit]

yeah was thinking RRH or ein in a different format instead

although they're gonna need buffs

minus RRH if we consider her self buff at least

[glad meteor]

No bay

Moran

[tropic summit]

eh good point, maybe instead of naga 🤔

[quick lake]

Unbuilt sakura and cp deficit aint fun

I tried using OG sak to counter SBS. still died

[glad meteor]

So build

[quick lake]

[glad meteor]

Depends how deficit system works I guess

[quick lake]

Should probably still be the same?

[glad meteor]

One would hope not

[quick lake]

Hopefully they give us more info soon

[glad meteor]

Having to stat pad with useless OLs is counter productive to a competitive game environment

[quick lake]

or just max core

[glad meteor]

People should be trying to get OLs that synergise with nikke, but the OL changes messed up pvp

My enemies may get the message. But I never will

[vapid lake]

it's pvp in a gacha game it's not supposed to be fair or ocmpetitive, its for whales to slap u with their wallet

[glad meteor]

I got cs on sanis for line 3. I’ll keep it for combat power

[tawny vine]

I've hit auto for one of my teams since I realized a 25% power diff is probably better than anything else

pvp in a nutshell

[glad meteor]

I remember the old days when ols and cubes didn’t greatly increase power

You can get a new nikke and just upgrade skill

[tawny vine]

it's the reality of things anyway. realized it after not updating my team for like 4 months and this guy walks in again

[tropic summit]

A whale easy dream

[graceful grotto]

so only top rankers able to play CA

[lean bobcat]

https://medal.tv/games/goddess-of-victory-nikke/clips/jyqNErwXfEFGuVFkG?invite=cr-MSx1ZTMsMzMxMDgwNzUs

Special Arena team? I tried making one myself but it didn't work out so well..

[graceful grotto]

🧱

[crystal flicker]

Your PvP Nikke has low investment

[spiral onyx]

Champion Arena: March
A simulation-style Arena mode where Commanders with top rankings in the SP Arena face off in a tournament-style competition.

March is the new September

March 2026 that is

[keen vapor]

Mica power!

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/caren-slap-gif-10701133857146832914

[keen vapor]

Really? You have a healer for Emilia P2 but you expect Scarlet to survive without Blanc HP buff in 3 RL?

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Blanc RH La+ Jackal
Noah Biscuit ScarletBS Pepper Crown
Noise Rapunzel Naga Alice Noir

PvP Invest
Priority: DrunkScarlet > Helm Treasure(Phase 2, S1 level 10) > Cindy
Minimum 4 OLs:
Jackal, SAnis, Blanc, Noah, Biscuit, Rumani, Centi, Anis, Rapunzel, Noise

Man, I need Helm frfr

[keen vapor]

Go on, try it on rookie arena if you dare

[tropic summit]

She is linked with jackal, surely she'll make it to 3R 🤔

[keen vapor]

3 RL yes

Burst 3, no

[crystal flicker]

T4 & 5 seems bricked

[lean bobcat]

Yeah, i'm trying to focus more on pvp nikkes since i've slowed down on progging the story

Anyways thanks for the team, appreciate it very much

[tropic summit]

Used to run T5 in sp arena prior to Cindy, was still wiping 🤔

[tropic summit]

Hmm could give it a test in rookie

[crystal flicker]

Your enemy is bricked

[tropic summit]

Eh I take it you don't like pmaid burst and poli + liter buffs 🤨

[cedar orbit]

5 brick teams

[tropic summit]

You guys have really high expectations of 5 perfect teams

[crystal flicker]

Nah, just not a fan for SMG at PvP and Poli has pretty terrible burst gen for an SG

Also, Mana has burst gen roughly same as Asuka right? so the only reason she has SS tier in PvP is only because her revive?

[tropic summit]

All those team are 3RL

[tropic summit]

Mana burst gen is slightly worse than scarlet, ress is immediate pre burst

[crystal flicker]

yeh

Scarlet has better burst gen from her counter

[cedar orbit]

You either run 5 2RL comps or bust.

[tropic summit]

Better start getting those CS% then

[cedar orbit]

I will let you know, my Centi has 14% CS

But the true goal is 4 black CS lines on Emilia

[tawny vine]

tbh 3rl does feel terrible to watch

[crystal flicker]

or Treasured Helm

[swift mango]

Maybe someone like Keripo can run 2rl... Maybe not... I doubt we have enough for 2rl x5 even with 25% CS on Emi...

I kinda need some consultant.... which would you get to lv7 first? Adjustant vs Tempering vs Healing cube?

Healing was honestly only there because Anchor exists...

[swift mango]

Maybe they could make something like a betting system for those who can't participate... It was like in another game I played...

Making a game mode for the select few top 1% players with no one else able to participate even just cheering is pretty bad....

[tropic summit]

Gambling within gacha on whales

[swift mango]

You could call it Whale-racing...

[tropic summit]

Whale watching

[swift mango]

It good when you being F2P getting yourself on the map and cheering/betting for yourselves. Even if you know you won't make it to the end...

[tropic summit]

Depends on the format, imagine making 2 teams 2RL for the opponent just to skip them

If it's based on points per number of wins now that'd be a different story

[untold lion]

Hi guys, im kinda new to nikke about 20days in to this game. Need some advice/help on PVP team building both Rookie and Special, tryna learn more things TIA!

[graceful grotto]

blanc-sbs-red hood-anis-bsoda for rookie

you have too few unit for a decent 3 team in SPA, so just cp pad the remaining 2

[crystal flicker]

Hi kinda new

[crystal flicker]

Your main goal for now is to get 5 x 3 stars Nikke to break level 160 wall

[untold lion]

i knew this is coming. but i do welcome it 💦

[quick lake]

oh wow, lv160 20 days in is pretty nice!

PvP is a rather different game mode compared to traditional PvE. Can read the pins for more info if u wanna learn more

[untold lion]

noted, aiming for it!

[untold lion]

tysm, got a friend to help me out with some resource management. and i'll check those out✨

[quick lake]

T1: Drake BSoda Naga Anis RH
T2: SBS Alice Blanc Marci Noise
T3: Auto

Generally in pvp, the winner is the team that bursts first. So we like to make fast teams

Probably dont have to worry for pvp for a while because u’re still missing key units like Jackal, Noah etc

[tender valve]

https://tenor.com/view/frozen2-gif-24406372

[untold lion]

tysm! this game is kinda overwhelming ngl but i'll get it someday

[quick lake]

Slow and steady! Just go through campaign and enjoy the story

[swift mango]

This is a very strong roster PvE meta wise for someone 20 days in... No Jackal, Noah or Biscuit though

[crystal flicker]

Blanc RH Anis BunnySoda Drake
Bay Noise ScarletBS Neon Marciana
Naga Rapipi Mana Product23 Quiry (Replace Quiry with Alice if CP too low)

[lone sequoia]

aim to 2.5 and pray

[swift mango]

Man every one has a go at it so maybe I gonna join... Too

[lone sequoia]

or slow team+biscuit+cindy

[swift mango]

Is this all SSR you have though?

[untold lion]

yea my friend said the same thing. bro said "gl with pvp my dood" and left

[untold lion]

other than that pic - got Soline, Aria, Emma

[keen vapor]

Blood, where skill reset I need to reset SG team

[tropic summit]

Gimme 1 too

[swift mango]

Maybe we will get it during Collab event

[keen vapor]

Goodbye Tove 9/7/7, Soda 7s and Maid Privaty 7/7/5

[modest summit]

Hi, I know I dont have much in the way of PVP units, but are there any teams anyone would please help me make for arena so I can at least put somewhat of a fight? 🙂

[quick lake]

They giving skill reset?

[keen vapor]

Moran/Blanc/Scarlet Alter/Noir/Anis

Mary/Zwei/Maiden/Sugar/Leona

Auto team

[modest summit]

I appreciate it, thank you!

[keen vapor]

Oh wait, you had Mana

[modest summit]

Yeah! I was trying to fit her into something

If there was anything to do with her

[untold lion]

oh right, one more question. does the position matter?

Edit : also rapipi is just rapi or rapi: redhood

[keen vapor]

Well, we still lack non feeding batteries...
Maybe
Maiden/Zwei/Mana/Sugar/Naga

[crystal flicker]

Yeah, just follow that positioning

[keen vapor]

It will be higher CP this way@modest summit

[keen vapor]

We never use Rapi SR

[untold lion]

oofs, kinda sad for her but thanks!

[modest summit]

THank you friend !

[keen vapor]

I hope soon

[crystal flicker]

I just started 444 my PvP Nikkes for cp gap bruh

[tropic summit]

Might've used her prior 160 wall back in the days

[swift mango]

Kinda feed bad for sending you this kind of team but I did my best.

[keen vapor]

4 RL teams :deadge:

[swift mango]

Well, for campaign...

Rapipi+Rouge+SBS/Modernia/Cindy+Blanc+RH/Alice should be your be your best bet... I guess, it lack the key burst 2 Crown so can't really use Naga...

[swift mango]

Either that or only 1 3 RL, the rest still 4 RL below.

[keen vapor]

It's time to bring Neon

[swift mango]

Neon is still the same....

I was betting on Alice healing on Bay team... I remember Alice would heal whole team with Damage share.

From Bay.

Mana would revive Blanc for Sbs...

Emma and Cindy would be tanky enough with Quiry to win the auto attack and heal with Marciana if they doesn't wipe strong enough.

Oh well

[strong hull]

Despair

[swift mango]

Maybe look at the next banner to see if Anchor+Mast would do good for you.

With Anchor+Mast maid into the fray you would have better B2 for your teams... Campaign wise.

Rapipi+M.Mast+M.Anchor+SBS+RH/Modernia/max invested Alice.

Should be carrying you to the end.

[keen vapor]

Bay interactions interesting

[rain totem]

@worthy knoll sorry man need some help again

[worthy knoll]

Sorry, but I can't help now. Hands full in coordinating UR for Hard mode prep

[rain totem]

@worthy knoll ok thanks any way

[keen vapor]

Ask in general here, not to specific person

[rain totem]

@keen vapor have any ideas

[untold lion]

i dont understand any of this but i'll try LMAOOOO, tysm!

[keen vapor]

You have Rumani?

[keen vapor]

The last one is easy win wth

[rain totem]

Nope

[fickle swift]

It's o🅱️er he managed to defeat the new team

[swift mango]

How many SG you have invested xD

[rain totem]

@keen vapor win with what?

[keen vapor]

Scar Blanc RH Centi Jackal for round 2 or 3

Noah Biscuit SBS Anis Rumani for round 1

[rain totem]

Dont have rumani

[swift mango]

Do you have Blanc built?

[umbral crown]

@swift mango ready to start giving people teams for CA for whole month?

🎈

[swift mango]

Rail should be ready

[umbral crown]

Owo really?

You are carrying the channel with him

[umbral crown]

@tropic summit

[swift mango]

No, it was Rheax and Rail these days

[umbral crown]

Nani

[swift mango]

They are very active

[umbral crown]

I need to reset SBS and Rapipi for champ but its ioever

[proud relic]

thx, what team should i use for rookie arena def/atk?

[rain totem]

@keen vapor ?

[tropic summit]

How about we just let @keen vapor the honor

[tropic summit]

Use Cindy team in rookie but instead of anis put noah

[proud relic]

okay

[tropic summit]

Nero debut soon

[rain totem]

@keen vapor who else can sub for rumani?

[swift mango]

Hmmm

Jackal+Blanc+Centi+Anis+Scarlet hitting Scarlet team.

Noah+Emi+RH+Biscuit+Crown hitting S.Anis

Idk...

[tropic summit]

Aye I'm such an hard worker

[keen vapor]

Try....
Noah/Emilia/Rapunzel/Anis/Noise instead of SBS team

[umbral crown]

si

[tropic summit]

Buffer doko? Emi is lonely

[keen vapor]

Meh

[proud relic]

btw when do i unlock the vigor cube? which lost selector?

[tropic summit]

Might still work but kinda copium

[tropic summit]

Uh I'd need to Google it I dun remembah

[rain totem]

@keen vapor thank you that worked

[proud relic]

nvm, ill search it up later

[rain totem]

I did this

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

Buffless emi still hurting

[swift mango]

Well, their Scarlet team is without protection

[tropic summit]

I need that rerun

[keen vapor]

Another MA work delivered satisfactory

[swift mango]

So just need Noah to block and they are screwed

[tropic summit]

Mhm makes sense 🤔

[keen vapor]

Now I need to cook for Rex

[swift mango]

SBS is strong b3 though... Keep her for CA... There is only 1 Biscuit for 5 teams

[swift mango]

Do your job well!

[umbral crown]

But but

[swift mango]

Are you using Liter or Rapipi for Campaign?

[umbral crown]

Rapipi somethings but i do not use liter

Always moran and Rosanna

Or moran and Rapunzel

Hoping to finish stages with 3 FB

[lunar dirge]

misinformation goes as planned

[swift mango]

Hmmm I hope you are using Crown at least...

[keen vapor]

@lucid belfry

[glad meteor]

She can be countered by nero rapunzel, sakura og, ludmilla og. And needs blanc or noah to work

but doubt people will invest in them

[swift mango]

Well, Merry Nero team use her

[tropic summit]

Also P1 generic defender and biscuit irc?

[glad meteor]

Nah, she targets lowest defence

[tropic summit]

So it needs a taunter 🤔

[glad meteor]

If the defender has lowest defence then maybe. Unless she 1 vs 5s the team during the end of her burst. Which can happen

[keen vapor]

I would

[tropic summit]

🧱

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Just use Biscuit+Unbuilt defender...

[umbral crown]

Nope

[keen vapor]

My Ludmilla

[swift mango]

Who are you using as B2? ...Nero?

[strong hull]

How much echocho san

Cd boxes

[keen vapor]

500 :Kanna sip:

@mod

@alice in chains is off

@kuru has "no molestar" sign

@shiftea off as well

Anonymous mod did it thank you mods
-# They're always watching

[glad meteor]

[keen vapor]

I can't claim steam gifts at the moment

My PC got stolen

[tropic summit]

wait what, really?

[keen vapor]

Yes, some time ago

[tropic summit]

noway, who was the scumbag

[oak rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1329571021472268318/-18fca6caf9964fa.gif

[keen vapor]

Win or not

[keen vapor]

I don't personally know the people involved they just come when I wasn't

[swift mango]

25% Emi and you could lose... Otherwise win...

[glad meteor]

Emi autos going to hurt

A lot

[tropic summit]

if that team doesn't have sneaky emi21%, you might make it, as you'll absorb cindy nuke and could potentially kill them post invulnerability, although they've RH buffed lineup against your noise buffed lineup with rapu healing aswell

[keen vapor]

That's why I'm going to heal I move B3 to P4 then

[keen vapor]

I pinged you yesterday they're both 3RL and that annoys me so much

[tropic summit]

oh so they're not running 2.5RL 🤔

hmm the concern is on emi autos buffed by RH, those once your invulnerability run out... dunno if you can heal enough

[keen vapor]

Here

[tropic summit]

oh i remember now sorry

[glad meteor]

Isn’t t2 easier

[keen vapor]

I fear Rapunzel resurrect

[swift mango]

If same speed then you should win...

[tropic summit]

[glad meteor]

I’m gold yapper

[keen vapor]

Yes yes, Bay should have been p2

I was testing so didn't paid enough attention

[glad meteor]

Sbs will clean up no

If nuke blocked + noah biscuit

[keen vapor]

I wonder if fast enough

[glad meteor]

Could even use cindy

[swift mango]

Are you sure about Rapipi? I would like to see a record lol .m.

[tropic summit]

it's his video but screenshotted for convinience

[keen vapor]

@swift mango

[tropic summit]

just makes it easier for me to look at

[keen vapor]

Blood doesn't checks his pings either

[keen vapor]

Rail, ping him on Retro recording again!

[tropic summit]

in his defense, i also forgot, but that's because i check too many ppl boxes

@swift mango

#pvp-arena message

[keen vapor]

Retro one is more impressive.... Actually, at the moment Tsubasa is 361 so he won more stats .... I might lose this time

[tropic summit]

RRH on elem. weakness does funny things

#pvp-arena message

1hitko entire bay lineup

@keen vapor yeah not confident on that noah vs noah exchange

[keen vapor]

Tbh, I should skip team 1 now

[tropic summit]

well if you could dedicate indom emi to either t2 or t3, that's one taken care of

[keen vapor]

Noah for round 2 then?

[glad meteor]

They slash at 48-50 ar ammo, that’s 4rl if I’m not mistaken

[tropic summit]

can your 2RL stall survive indom scarlet on enemy team?

[autumn solar]

Would anyone mind helping me put together a team for special arena? My team is outdated

[tropic summit]

indom emi on their cindy and 2RL stall on their indom scarlet maybe?

[glad meteor]

With Noah biscuit yeah

[keen vapor]

[quasi sluice]

What is the best team defense for blanc team ?

[tropic summit]

post your box, with nikke ordered by strength

[glad meteor]

4rl slash, but they burst at 2.9-3rl

[keen vapor]

His scar indom always gets me a lot of trouble so I have to guess no

[tropic summit]

blanc has many variations, the most used is with either emi or scarlet

[quasi sluice]

sbs right ?

[tropic summit]

can also be sbs, although it's easier to be countered

to give you a few example:

emi blanc rh flex jackal (emi must be linked)
blanc emi biscuit flex flex
scarlet blanc buffer battery jackal

[keen vapor]

Slash is always after

3 RL is for B1

[swift mango]

... Hmm, it was more about Emi then Rapipi in this video ... Nice reference 👍

Idk If I could use it sometime...

Thx

[glad meteor]

I meant it as in 3rl noah should be safe to block

[tropic summit]

furthermore concrete examples with RL threshold:

[quasi sluice]

Right now og scarlet is drop now ?

[tropic summit]

uh what do you mean? 🤔

[quasi sluice]

Because so many attacker can counter this team

Jackal + Scarlet

[swift mango]

She is still SSS tier...

[quasi sluice]

I know but she can be counter by Cindy team

[tropic summit]

there are variations to it if you know they can beat it

[quasi sluice]

I think

If i put blanc in og scarlet team

[tropic summit]

you can also run a faster scarlet:

[quasi sluice]

Attacker will use rosana to counter i think

[tropic summit]

yeah they can

[swift mango]

2RL

2.5RL

P2 lv1

Sacr Scarlet.

Many...

[quasi sluice]

They will sacrifice one from P1 then they burst will come faster than defender team

[tropic summit]

indeed, that team is so flexible

[quasi sluice]

Yeah

[tropic summit]

i mean you're not forced to make a scarlet team if you don't want to

[quasi sluice]

Right now i don't have any idea how to make up the team

lol

[tropic summit]

2RL scarlet still forces the hand for opponent to run the respective counter nikke

then they can't be used in your second team

so you gotta think like this: "if i run scarlet 2RL, what nikke will opponent NOT have for my other 2 teams?" and build accordingly

[quasi sluice]

2RL idk if they can slice cindy to die

2RL scarlet *

[tropic summit]

depends on your OL's, a single buffed scarlet (with RH) on 40% atk will still kill most nikke on p1 and possibly p2 (splash exposed)

if they're running things with biscuit/noah tho it's a different story

[quasi sluice]

For sure

They will use cindy with noah and biscuit

[keen vapor]

Was thinking on this

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[tropic summit]

there's also this

[quasi sluice]

Yep

[tropic summit]

but yeah bottom point is, if you know scarlet won't force your opponent hand, then get creative and build different comps

[quasi sluice]

Too many flaw on scarlet team right now

[tropic summit]

emi indom, cindy 2RL, s.anis 2RL, with helmT your options expanded

[quasi sluice]

I on upper hand to be talkin

My level diff between other is +20 lv

[tropic summit]

uh let's see

[strong hull]

Why low

[tropic summit]

yeah looks better than before, i prefer these odds @keen vapor

[quasi sluice]

Can i see ur defense team

[tropic summit]

oh forgot to edit t1 hold on

[quasi sluice]

Did S.anis still good ?

In my bracket no one use her anymore

[tropic summit]

running these atm:

my T3 used to be even 4RL before

[tropic summit]

she's good against opponents who do not know how to deal with her or with rapu revive

which is my current bracket case

[quasi sluice]

I see

[keen vapor]

Well

It was an interesting result, as usual...

Scarlet now decided to burst early so my Noah didn't blocked in time, I survived but not Biscuit so... I need to get SR RL dolls fr fr

As for Blanc team... Emi died (as usual) but RH got indom this time and cleaned up....

[tropic summit]

yeah as eon suggested, having RH as backup plan does that

shame on the other match tho, dafuq is wrong with burst gen there 🤔

[tropic summit]

emi blanc rh sbs jackal
naga centi cind anis liter
noah noise biscuit asuka noir

cubes:

quantum on jackal, centi, anis
vigor on noise, biscuit
temperance on noah
any other nikke give highest lvl cube

notes/wishlist: rumani, get helm treasured asap, consider building up rapunzel

once any of the above are done, get teams reviewed

[keen vapor]

I have dead Emi getting indom problems

[tropic summit]

and uh, only single buffed emi no good right?

[quasi sluice]

Did the dmg reduc% cube is good ?

[tropic summit]

like emi blanc rapu flex jackal

[quasi sluice]

Or should i just use the best level of cube to increse CP deflict ?

[tropic summit]

yes damage reduction is good in nikke pvp, specifically with those that can stack it up a lot (nero and moran for example)

it also has usage on bay or very situational on carries you want to live long enough

[quasi sluice]

Can u give me an example which team does counter S.anis

I know the scarlet one is

[tropic summit]

hmm another typical counter is an emi nuke on same RL

[autumn solar]

Regular Anis or Sparkling Summer?

[tropic summit]

regular anis due to being a battery

you can replace her with rumani once you find her

[tropic summit]

what synch level are you btw?

[keen vapor]

Totally not good

[tropic summit]

not enough dmg?

[keen vapor]

Uh huh

[tropic summit]

aww

[quasi sluice]

532

[tropic summit]

oh oke then we gonna need double buff emi nuke

[quasi sluice]

U talkin about enemy team right ?

[tropic summit]

i think these 3 teams should win

[glad meteor]

May need to go 2rl against scar

[tropic summit]

and uh maybe even 2RL cindy would

although i personally didn't test it

[quasi sluice]

Right now Helm teasure is lv 13 now

hahah

no luck

[tropic summit]

oh you can hit 2RL without helm too

[quasi sluice]

My S.anis team

[glad meteor]

Their jackal is juiced with cs, and rls double fed them

[tropic summit]

yeah looks good, maybe move biscuit in p2 and rapu in p3, so rapu is safe from splash

[quasi sluice]

But i think is still got counter

I got many win many defense but still lose somtime

so i want some new inspire my team

lol

[tropic summit]

oh we can take a look and see if we can help you, post your nikke ordered by strength (first 3-4 lines are enough)

maybe we can come up with different teams

let's see..

[quasi sluice]

On this day is just like i juke from the attacker team lol

[tropic summit]

how well invested is your rosanna btw?

[quasi sluice]

All 8

Teasure +5

[tropic summit]

[quasi sluice]

tough choice haha

All meta unit in pvp i 'm all good to be set in place

[tropic summit]

yeah it looks good

lot of possibilities too 🤔

[quasi sluice]

But the problem is the game

2 wins is a win

with many counter team right now

[tropic summit]

yeah defense is hard and at that synch level, if a player is skilled, they'll find a way to win

[quasi sluice]

even the cp gap is like 100k ++

I just ask u about blanc team

1.4 m VS 1.1 or 1.2

But still can't defense lol

[autumn solar]

Thanks I will use this team, I am currently getting vigor cubes.

[tropic summit]

1.4m vs 1.1 would be 22% cp deficit, quite huge considering they also need to survive SBS indommed 🤔

[quasi sluice]

yes

[tropic summit]

although SBS damage can be drastically reduced by Sakura

[quasi sluice]

I try to attacck them back they didn't have to burst at all lol

But this team is lose to noah biscuit team i think

[tropic summit]

yes could be, distributed damage on a nikke that is invulnerable deals 0 dmg

[quasi sluice]

Yep but still if they can't nuke my team to die

They will lose for sure cause my rapunzel is all 10 with cs15+

and cp deflict

[tropic summit]

mhm

you could try replacing SBS for any other well built attacker that works well with indom

[quasi sluice]

I don't have any idea anymore

[tropic summit]

if you think they're countering her

something like Ein or RRH or even s.anis

[quasi sluice]

s.anis already

but i think is lose to this team

scar + rosana

[tropic summit]

wow, your opponents know you well

[quasi sluice]

yep

The main problem i think is Cindy team

hard to counter if you're defense

This one i think

[tropic summit]

hmm

[quasi sluice]

I try Ein before but Ein still got taunt by Noah

So i out of idea lol

[tropic summit]

i'm dealing with fast cindy teams with s.anis actually

2RL s.anis with noah

[quasi sluice]

I see

[tropic summit]

but on defense it's gonna be hard

opponent will always pick 2 teams they can counter

[quasi sluice]

Haha yes

I just chill now waiting for Helm Treasure

[tropic summit]

yes good choice, with her you can speed up at least 1 team more, it might work at least at first

[quasi sluice]

Yeah good game

lol

[tropic summit]

but you know, CA is coming now, it will be 5 teams instead of 3, maybe it will bring something fresh? who knows

fingers crossed

[quasi sluice]

Yeah 3out of 5 is gonna be tough

Did this team gonna be get counter by Scarlet ?

Hahaha MG VS Scar

[tropic summit]

yes that's the problem, RRH has MG vs scar

but it will be strong against stall teams and noah+biscuit teams

[quasi sluice]

But considering the CP deflict

20% gap

[tropic summit]

so if you think they're using noah/biscuit, this one will be mostly bad for them

[quasi sluice]

I got a hand in my card is level and CP deflict

[tropic summit]

yep

[quasi sluice]

But still there's many way to counter just aim for 2 wins

[tropic summit]

CP pad is, at the end of the day, the best defense

[swift mango]

This team gonna be counter by everything tbh...

[quasi sluice]

sadly 😦

[swift mango]

It's hard to think of a team that lose to it...

[tropic summit]

he's relying on padding tho

if RRH gets revived or hits indom, then you're stuck on deficit for 10s against aoe

[quasi sluice]

At first S.sakura is good

but right now i didn't use her anymore

lol

[tropic summit]

hmm s.sakura, haven't tested her enough

[quasi sluice]

I miss my Haran nuke team

lol

Right now there's so many team to counter with another team

[wise horizon]

whats a hard counter to these 3 teams? (Rookie) @tropic summit @swift mango

[swift mango]

Just tried a 6 RL team against S.Anis... lose badly.. won't try it ever again..

5rl team is the limit...

Lol

[tropic summit]

i saw something for a second then it was gone

ah yes, a common scarlet setup this one

[swift mango]

Well...

[tropic summit]

oof, ouch

[quasi sluice]

I can't drop rosana out because if they use rosana too i will lose the gauage filling

[tropic summit]

yeah, that's true

[swift mango]

Could beat it easily with LapT instead....

[tropic summit]

rosanna worst enemy is rosanna

[quasi sluice]

For the defend team haha

Because we have to think many team to encounter with

[swift mango]

I'm trying to gauge 5RL for that team.

[quasi sluice]

Have any bright idea ?

I want to mixup new team lol

[swift mango]

Need 5-5.5 RL or it won't work

[tropic summit]

hmm, i think an option is to have teams with batteries on 17% CS

that may surprise some opponents who are careful choosing their counters based on burst gen

faster teams in general have an higher chance of winning

[quasi sluice]

Yeah i want to try 2RL team

[swift mango]

Rumani make it 4rl... Could work already but Cindy Nuke getting caught and winning with Normal attack kinda left a bad taste in my mouth...

Kinda want my Cindy Nuke to hit after Noah shield gone lol...

[tropic summit]

an example of 3RL becoming 2.5RL with centi on 17% CS

if an enemy was to run noah on 3RL, they'd still have to catch part of the nuke

[quasi sluice]

The problem is Centi CS

[tropic summit]

yeah... else once you get helm, cindy 2RL becomes very easy to achieve

[swift mango]

Dude is 75 level above me btw...

[tropic summit]

oh i'm in a very similar situation then

[quasi sluice]

Yeah no luck on helm

Ein got screen nuke too

but i think the burst gen is too slow

[tropic summit]

alternative, but you'd be using 3 clip RL for a single team

[swift mango]

Beat him before just trying to do something different this time...

[tropic summit]

standard 3RL

[quasi sluice]

Can't even fight Cindy team i think

[tropic summit]

with CS 17% on rumani:

[quasi sluice]

If enemy bring cindy team

[tropic summit]

hmmm cindy 2RL might delete them if she kills blanc within the first strikes

[quasi sluice]

Emilia CS is including skill 1 of her too ?

[tropic summit]

yep

or rather, you only need the CS% after the ones skill 1 give

if skill gives 15%, you'll need 6% and so on

[quasi sluice]

too much invesment haha

Can emilia replace anis ?

[tropic summit]

hmm let's see

without CS%, remains 3RL

with CS%

[quasi sluice]

21 % is all black cs 4 slot ?

[tropic summit]

you can mess around yourself on this if you feel like trying different teams:

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[quasi sluice]

or just s1 + cs 6%

[tropic summit]

oh no, no need for black lines

[tropic summit]

yep this

[quasi sluice]

I see

thx u

[tropic summit]

i think it's 13% to be precise from S1

@quasi sluice

[quasi sluice]

8% to find

[tropic summit]

yup

[whole pawn]

su, give me Noah and crown, and I will be yours

[kindred tinsel]

[swift mango]

To be frank, this Mast+Anchor combo has potential to be equal to Crown+Naga already

[coarse lake]

not if core

and it's just straight worse for campaign since you don't get shields

crown isn't going anywhere for campaign

[swift mango]

Except if you don't have crown. And no core boss