pvp-arena

[bleak shale]

no only base

[unique wagon]

U sure?

[bleak shale]

pretty sure

[lone sequoia]

you don't have to use her, just helm; more damage and easier target

[unique wagon]

Thats not 100% convincing

[lone sequoia]

no reason to try xmaiden snipe now

[unique wagon]

[tropic summit]

guess she'll stay benched afterall and keep being used as battery for now 🤔

[lone sequoia]

i use xmaiden with my rosanna

[tropic summit]

oh double assassin-ish

p1 killers

[tropic summit]

got a few more ideas out of this, thanks ya all for feedback

[unique wagon]

Bro use something that gives charge damage like Ein

[bleak shale]

250*1.0947=273.675 + 23.62 = 297.295

instead of 299.53

kisenix making me doubt myself cuz i didnt look in a while

[tropic summit]

[bleak shale]

but the origional look was actually rh vs alice doll first, alice gains more from doll than rh

cuz 350% charge vs 250%

[coarse lake]

if they start burst chain with no b3 they still lose is the point

but you gotta actually have the dmg to kill, and hope they don't go closer to 2.5rl

[bleak shale]

so helm burst 10 is equiv to 396% charge damage increase if we extrapolate from this

giving a total of 646% per full charge shot

[lone sequoia]

work against blanc comps, you can't revive a unit, with xanne depends if you kill them before burst chain start or between xanne b2 and scarlet b3 to kill scarlet/rh and stop the chain, if you kill before xanne the match up depends in how strong is they unbuffed scarlet

[coarse lake]

well yeah ofc you wouldn't use it against xanne

[worthy knoll]

[coarse lake]

xanne you just block it and sneeze and they die

[radiant storm]

Tried this and it suffers if you fight it against a Defender/Biscuit Comp

[lone sequoia]

who are the next units?

[coarse lake]

any scar comp that doesn't use indom is so weak to so many other things, just do those

[worthy knoll]

Does charge damage affect S2s like Laplace+, XMaiden and Helm Phase 2? Or is it literally just echo damage that is base on just the final atk stat and no multipliers nor def affects it?

[coarse lake]

prob not

[lone sequoia]

add extra % or change the skill value?

[coarse lake]

the additional procs shouldn't change

[bleak shale]

no

[lone sequoia]

i just SG rosanna those teams if i want

[bleak shale]

its flat additional damage

[worthy knoll]

So def also doesn't affect it right?

Kinda like true damage?

[bleak shale]

def should affect it

[worthy knoll]

🤔

[bleak shale]

ur basically doing another bullet of 154.58% final atk

with 0 charge dmg

[worthy knoll]

It does? I thought it was just simply echo damage of the flat final atk value?

[bleak shale]

only emilia is echo

special text for it too

[radiant storm]

Can Scar, X. Maiden, Rh, Anis Sr, Jackal work in pvp?

Assuming that Rh, S. Anis, Jackal has Quantum

[bleak shale]

emilia takes % of damage the shot u did that proced it then takes 53.1% of that

[lone sequoia]

rhb2?

[worthy knoll]

So elemental damage affects this too?

[bleak shale]

it should

[radiant storm]

Or Change Pos 3 Rh to Anis Sr Pos 3

[worthy knoll]

While Emilia does not right?

[lone sequoia]

as a def comp is just a team with high kill pressure to p1, you need a good scarlet if you want to wipe the enemy team with rh buff only

probably a biscuit team will attack that def

[radiant storm]

Rh and X. Maiden buff Pos 1 Scar

[coarse lake]

emilia's additional is affected by ele, in that it takes into account the ele boosting the original hit

[radiant storm]

Not the Elem ofcourse, but the 20% attack on X. maiden

[coarse lake]

it doesn't double dip

[bleak shale]

right, but emilia's first hit is affected by ele dmg so it takes ele dmg from that

water weak vs wind weak

emilia also gets core damage on hers cuz it snaps core dmg from main hit

additional hits dont hit core

[worthy knoll]

Mmh wdym?

[lone sequoia]

i don't think 20%atk from a defender is a lot, but if you can make that team a cp gap team should be fine

[bleak shale]

so if i shoot core with emi the initial shot is 2x lets say

[worthy knoll]

The nuke hits core while the natks don't?

[bleak shale]

u take 53.1% of that core hit

and thats emi proc

[lunar dirge]

thank for math

[coarse lake]

emilia is literally just a fixed % of what the original one did

that's all that really matters

[bleak shale]

for helm proc there, its an additional hit thats not core, so u just get the extra hit without core hit multiplier

even if ur shot hits core

[lone sequoia]

nuke the core for extra S2 damage?

[lunar dirge]

so basically,600%(69*6,5+170)% damage per second for 10 shots after burt

[worthy knoll]

Ahh so the additional hits you mentioned above, was not for Emi

[bleak shale]

yes emi is special for her hit

laplace/helm/mod dont get bonuses on their procs

it counts as body hit

[worthy knoll]

I thought you were still mentioning Emi on this statement

[radiant storm]

Tried the comp, 980k vs 1.06m cp against a Cindy without Biscuit, and surprisingly can win

[worthy knoll]

Maybe Naga Emi against Phase 2 Nihil isn't so bad

[lone sequoia]

i don't know what the cindy team is, skills/cores (investment) or position, i can't say that the team is good just because you get a win in something like* 8% deficit

[cedar orbit]

I'm CP gapping

[radiant storm]

@lone sequoia

[lone sequoia]

not enough damage to oneshot 4 units

[covert lintel]

another RL

[lone sequoia]

imagine heals per hit... bay teams looks strong

[radiant storm]

Scar's Elem is Weaker than Iron wdy expect

[tropic summit]

gonna need to know if it's clip RL or normal RL 🤔

[covert lintel]

i'm still cooking mana and sbs
gimme a break

[radiant storm]

Total of 80%+ total attack buff only for Scar, but if X. Maid is swapped to Blanc, then maybe it will be 1 shot

[lone sequoia]

i'm not saying that the team is bad, but that is a unprotected noah (no biscuit)and is an atk team, you can win in atk with any unit if you want

and i don't know why are you tagging me, after i say that the team in def only have pressure to p1 but you use that in atk

[radiant storm]

Just sent the Vid as to how the team work

[lone sequoia]

i think you are lucky that he doesn't have noah linked

[covert lintel]

still no info about her skill?

[radiant storm]

Well, Jackal can't link a Noah fast enough. Thats a 3s burst 5:00-4:57

So Jackal can't link

[lunar dirge]

she somehow has to outdo rapunzel to have a place

in ca arena even

[lone sequoia]

i mean every instance of damage your units take

[lunar dirge]

so,emma?

[lone sequoia]

yeah, but 5% sucks even in shared damage*

[lunar dirge]

if they do it as a guaranteed

do you hard how hard it will be to tweak

do make it decent?

[lone sequoia]

you can use stacks, higher % or balance the heal value

[lunar dirge]

+they say to keep team stable,and they're pve focised ig

[lone sequoia]

SU think about money, so they focus in pve only

helm treasure is just to not quickshot spam SR in pve or grave burst gen

[lunar dirge]

double helm coop

insta burst bar in 0,5s

[bleak shale]

Remember when they said they were going to focus on pve

[keen vapor]

You need 4 Black charge speed lines on both accounts

[radiant storm]

I mostly focus on Anomaly Mirror and Kraken

[lunar dirge]

justt full charge a shot on last second of fb lmao

[keen vapor]

You can't start with it

[lunar dirge]

full charge a shot on last second of fb and hold it

tadaa

i smell skill issue from you

misinfo academy,i swear to god

[cedar orbit]

am I the only one, or in pvp it takes a lot longer to load in your attack. I started mine 30 secs before reset, but I almost ran out of time

[coarse lake]

I think they do extra checks now

[lone sequoia]

they don't manual rouge/dwife

[lone sequoia]

the game takes too much time, connection/internet speed and if you use quick or normal battle

[radiant storm]

Game takes too much time to load

For a game like this, Gi and W game is faster in loading speed

[bleak shale]

[keen vapor]

I said start, second rotation is not the start

[lunar dirge]

WHO GIVES AN F ABOUT 1ST ROTATION,YOU USE LITER IN 90% OF CASES

1st is bricked nonetheless

[keen vapor]

Nuh uh

[lunar dirge]

yet you bring it up

[keen vapor]

Rapi better

[lunar dirge]

true,but as i said,burst gen wise,1st rotation is always bricked

[lunar dirge]

2nd:this you? #pvp-arena message

[tropic summit]

oi I found your waifu instead of Helm... @swift mango

#gacha-rolls message

[cedar orbit]

Didn't know Blood was into fat girls

[strange rain]

I run the most random shi rn

[cedar orbit]

who let bro run his pve teams?

[strange rain]

Can someone help me build 3 pvp teams please

[tropic summit]

taking a look

synch lvl 166 and already have noah, jackal, biscuit, sbs

[strange rain]

Ez

[eager mountain]

unfortunately unlike supp, non of the hard meta pvp dps are really wishlistable... maybe scarlet cindy now but thats 0.1%

[torn garnet]

Anyone got a team for SP Arena I can make with these characters?

[tropic summit]

rrh blanc rh noir jackal
noah biscuit sbs rapu alice
3rd team auto it with highest CP units available

cubes (once you unlock them):

quantum on jackal
vigor on biscuit, rapu
temperance on noah

notes: ensure rrh is lowest max HP between rh and jackal, although giving indom to RH in case is also fine

wishlist/build: rumani, centi, cinderella, scarlet
consider investing bare minimun into also anis, for extra battery

once you find/build the above, have your teams reviewed

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[strange rain]

tysm

[torn garnet]

How's it looking? Am I cooked?

[eager mountain]

can take a while to build teams

[tropic summit]

well you're bricked due to low synch lvl with eva collab, but you can at least still try

[strange rain]

I use the same teams for attack and defense ye?

[torn garnet]

Yeah I'm a day one player so I'm going up against these guys

[torn garnet]

I only recently broke 160 wall so I'm steadily increasing sync

[eager mountain]

damn rip

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind noir noise
noah biscuit rouge s.anis asuka
3rd team just go auto with highest available CP

cubes (once available)

vigor on biscuit, rouge, noise
quantum on centi
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis, s.anis must be ideally burst lvl 9 to maximize on DPS

wishlist/build asap: jackal, rumani, scarlet, sbs, rapunzel, blanc

once you find the above, get your teams reviewed to improve them further

[eager mountain]

treasure helm also a gift to everyone

[torn garnet]

Alr

[tropic summit]

they can be used for both sure, keep in mind you've the option to CP pad the lowest enemy CP team with your campaign team or highest CP units, then just use either of the 2 meta teams you've on defense for the least powerful among remaining 2 enemy teams

[torn garnet]

Do I want to use this team for defense to?

[torn garnet]

Also may I know what site that is for the tables

[tropic summit]

T1 is fine, move noise to p5 to avoid taunting on p4, T2 and T3 are very copium i wouldn't run those

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[torn garnet]

What do you suggest for T2 and T3

[eager mountain]

or have slight faster charge speed for noise over noah in attempt to avoid p4 taunt burst feed ig

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[torn garnet]

I just ran auto on the other two teams. This alr?

[tropic summit]

i posted earlier ur teams

#pvp-arena message

[torn garnet]

I meant for defense

[tropic summit]

those are for defense

[unique wagon]

Sir my pvp loading takes 1 whole minute

[torn garnet]

Ah my bad

[tropic summit]

you need a new gaming chair

[eager mountain]

average su loading speed

[unique wagon]

bruh I cant even see the fight

[eager mountain]

the gaming chair jokes never gets old

[tropic summit]

ikr

[unique wagon]

how do I know which one won and not smh

[eager mountain]

the game just loads slower and slower in general, they need to fix this sh*t

so ur iphone crashed

[torn garnet]

So wait I can just change T1 then to fit the other teams right?

[unique wagon]

ah I think I knew how I lost, the indom went to Maxwell

[eager mountain]

thats why i always pvp on pc

[tropic summit]

did you read the teams i posted for ya

[torn garnet]

Yh I just copied attackers team onto defense

[tropic summit]

for attack you want to stick to 3RL and customize them based on the enemy

e.g. against a scarlet 3RL you'll want a 3RL noah

[torn garnet]

Ah ok

[strange rain]

Whos copies are better blanc,noir,biscuit to switch with rumani on wishlist

[tropic summit]

meanwhile against an opponent that only hits p1 you'll want a p1 defender + biscuit

[eager mountain]

noir

[unique wagon]

fakkkkkkkkkk ok ill try again tomorrow

[tropic summit]

i'd say prioritize biscuit

[torn garnet]

How will I know if am opponent will attack p1 only. Also I win 1 match and I get hit with this

[eager mountain]

they attack all teams

[tropic summit]

yep, that's why i said earlier you're unfortunately bricked

opponents are all several levels ahead

[torn garnet]

I'll get there (someday)

[tropic summit]

you might still have a few shoots at some of them, but it's gonna be rough

make sure to progress a lot in campaign

(now that you broke wall)

[torn garnet]

Yeah I'm so far winning most of my matches with the new team

[eager mountain]

oh f i thought its to place rumani instead of the dups rip

[torn garnet]

This is as far as I go...

[strange rain]

Do i need maxwell on the wishlist or i can remove her and put centi ? (I dont have copies of either and maxwell design is eh

[unique wagon]

Theres no other B1 that lets me go over deficit smh

🧱

[tropic summit]

well, keep refreshing, there might be opponents within reach of CP, platinum at your brick level isn't too bad

[eager mountain]

this games pvp grouping is juat a big rip to any acc with inactivity history

[torn garnet]

I've been silver for over a month and still no name change

[tropic summit]

centi is more priority than maxwell for pvp

[tropic summit]

yep, brackets are all based on account creation date

[vast junco]

any suggestions on what character(s) to invest in sp arena def wise? got everything except Noah

[tropic summit]

single buff scarlet nuke, you might survive that if you got dolls 🤔 (although is CP deficit? if so RIP)

[eager mountain]

oh so yeah u dont need noir dup, put rumani instead of noir in wishlist yes

[unique wagon]

I did this then forgot my Max had lower HP so rip my attempt today im bricked might as well try again later. I use Vigor and its still not enuf ggwp Im out bye.

Alice is the only unit that allows me to give indom to Rapipi.

[tropic summit]

is that helm treasured?

[unique wagon]

Yeah I need Drake and Helm trasre asap

[vast junco]

Yea it's at stage 1 (2 soon)

[unique wagon]

wud have been easier smhhhhhhhhhhh

ok thats too fast but whatever

[tropic summit]

well your T2 suffers from one critical thing, cindy in p1 is detrimental as in you give enemy essentially 1 extra RL tier
T3 will have emi killed by any eletric burst, while it may let others survive, but not optimal
T1 is ok

[unique wagon]

Perfect.

Guess we will see after I get Helm treasure.

[tropic summit]

i'd say post your box, nikke ordered by strength, so we can make teams based on investiment for you @vast junco

[eager mountain]

rail doing a fulltime job blessing this channel

[tropic summit]

just returning the favour when i was newb

[vast junco]

thats the ones in sync device

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[unique wagon]

or shud I fight uphill battle here?

[loud sonnet]

[eager mountain]

keep forgetting my rookie arena

[vast junco]

i probably should swap Emilia with Noise but don't have OL gear on her, unsure what to do with Cindy in team 2 since shes the highest CP that has somewhat useful burst

[tropic summit]

laplace treasured aswell right?

[vast junco]

ye p3 lappy

[tropic summit]

awesome

yeah we can upgrade a lot of these teams

[eager mountain]

1700k+ arena currency so rookie is just for kicking ass and that 1 achivement of "winning n*100 rookie arena games"

[tropic summit]

how invested is rosanna btw?

[vast junco]

4/7/7

dont have any crazy overload rolls though

[eager mountain]

no atk crit rate?

[tropic summit]

mhm oke, might've to bench her

[vast junco]

shes at like 15% crit but no attack rolls

[eager mountain]

[vast junco]

like i can spend some rocks on pvp units since my pve teams are in a solid spot now, just need to know which ones

[eager mountain]

also no atk line for mine but lv10 burst is kinda bare minimum without good lines, kinda works for me

[unique wagon]

Prayge.

[loud sonnet]

3k cd

[eager mountain]

depends, sometimes getting some filler lines to boost cp can be an option if u keep hitting the deficit wall

[vast junco]

my bracket everyone has kinda scuffed comps but they are a threat because of 550-600k+ power on each team

[loud sonnet]

When did you start earning those CD?

Feels like that's more than echo does

[eager mountain]

why u saving cd tho, when u can use them to beat hard ch already for higher income🤔

[tropic summit]

last question, how invested is emi?

[unique wagon]

beat hard ch

[eager mountain]

mc i see

501 would do for most but yeah

f him

[unique wagon]

oh Im sure I can beat if i SR 15 my SAnis I just dont bother

[vast junco]

4/4/7 and looks like its at 3.75% CS and 50% ele

[unique wagon]

I alr bricked my dispatch yesterday losing tons of mats when I shud have resetted

[eager mountain]

pass lv400 cd is mostly just for pvp... and hard ch gives more for... again pvp lol

as if my union need my extra level to beat union raid one day earlier, nope

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind xmaiden noise
scarlet xanne rosanna laplace+ jackal
blanc emi rh biscuit helmT

cubes:

quantum on centi, jackal
vigor on noise, xanne, blanc, biscuit
any other nikke run highest lvl cube available

wishlist/build: T2 is the one suffering the most on CP, once you find noah we can form a better T3 and distribute better power for T2 (specifically RH and blanc)

consideration: if T3 is low on CP, can run SBS instead of emi, although not ideal since easier to counter, but would make up for CP loss giving you time to build emi

[eager mountain]

u need a ton of cs line/s1 investment to make her an op battery

tho .5 rl gen is less and less relevant since there are more and more to replace sg gen filler

also 3rl blanc emi, emi can easily die to teams with multiple rl before burst, so ideally have mlb or leveled up sr doll, even tempering cube when cs isnt a concern anymore

[vast junco]

that brings the teams to 492k / 495k / 465k CP, with SBS last team would be at 522k
I have been a year without Noah now so kinda lost hope on that already, should I OL Noise/Blanc/Centi?

[tropic summit]

indeed @vast junco consider SBS if emi doesn't have SR5 or R15 doll

[tropic summit]

hmm all 3 of them are generally used in top teams, i'd say yeah

[vast junco]

dont think anyone in my bracket knows how to counter wind units so it shouldnt be an issue 😄

[eager mountain]

kinda a rip water code thing, but 3rl attacker is never safe to begin with no matter element

[vast junco]

what about building Nero as Noah replacement or is that just a meme?

[eager mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/nero-claudius-fate-extella-the-umbral-star-fate-extella-link-fgo-fate-grand-order-gif-24739522

this nero can do

[tropic summit]

well, the thing with nero is that she's huge investiment requirements

once built and with a team that can synergize with her, she becomes scary

noah is unique as in she offers anti nuke, while being a battery and a tank+taunter

also easier to build

[vast junco]

yeah the problem is just getting her

and i have like a million excess defender pieces

[tropic summit]

quite indeed

[white compass]

Did this challenger 10 player just say f it and only focus on cp wall with no burst 1? Am I missing something lol

[eager mountain]

tf he cp walling with rupee

[tropic summit]

yes sir, that's a CP padded team

[whole pawn]

@tropic summit maybe?

[tropic summit]

lvl 1 anis

[vast junco]

ill start with overloading the teams you made @tropic summit and if Keripo finds out Frima is useful I got her p3 treasure so ill just focus on Nero after that 👍

[tropic summit]

oke doke sounds good

[whole pawn]

lol I didn't see

[white compass]

R Anis doing her best

[tropic summit]

well you can commit to T1 and T3

T3 you've feed from crown, so scarlet would be nice

[fathom rock]

T1 swap jackal and rumani position
T2 avoid it
T3 use your T2 comp
Ez win

[whole pawn]

T3 has crown and rapu and noah

[tropic summit]

T1 can be any 3RL nuke like your cindy

or ye as retro said, p1 def + biscuit will make quick work of indom

[whole pawn]

swap jackal with rumani? is it so she take more DMG from anis and soda or smt?

[tropic summit]

remember your lessons on burst gen?

[fathom rock]

Defender sg targets p5.

[fathom rock]

Sg hit jackal
Jackal eat good
Jackal eat good
Regen be good

[whole pawn]

I wouldnt be surprised if I said you are opening the calculator 24/7

[tropic summit]

well it's an xls sheet, only needs 1 tab on a browser

[whole pawn]

I wish my laptop can do that

barely opening my discord

[tropic summit]

either way go with retro suggestion, can use your T2 as is without needing to change a thing

even easier

[whole pawn]

ok I will try

[white compass]

I think this man just settled on 3 cp padded teams lol

[tropic summit]

eh kinda, he's at least using biscuit mechanic properly on T3

although the burst gens are fked

[whole pawn]

why biscuit on p3 and not p2

[tropic summit]

you mean you for your teams?

also hi @keen vapor

[fathom rock]

He means here

[whole pawn]

I m talking about the picture
I also lost on t3

[keen vapor]

[whole pawn]

mmm

[tropic summit]

with jackal and scarlet you lost on T3?

what team did you run

[fathom rock]

You didn't swap T2 and t3 comps did you

[whole pawn]

sbs

[whole pawn]

i did

[fathom rock]

tap button left and record?

[whole pawn]

still lost, bro sat on 3 sheilds

[whole pawn]

I can't record, cuz I watched it all

[tropic summit]

biscuit in T3 makes crown and cindy invulnerable, although don't take that as a good example because he'll still screw burst gen with that comp:

[whole pawn]

bro has Noah tia crown and u expect him to not survive?

[keen vapor]

You're supposed to record from before starting

[whole pawn]

I can't record

[keen vapor]

[fathom rock]

Got any defender taunters?

[whole pawn]

the team was centi biscuit sbs Alice Rh and still lost

[tropic summit]

back to grinding tower, 2 MAs here to help you, you're in good hands @whole pawn

[fathom rock]

Centi can't taunt

[whole pawn]

well u said swap teams

do I need to change smt?

[fathom rock]

Yup that's on me

[whole pawn]

it's not like I can

[eager mountain]

[keen vapor]

Tibi

[whole pawn]

would jackal help? centi biscuit sbs Alice jackal?

[fathom rock]

Can you swap alice for regen unit like Sr anis

[whole pawn]

can u play sbs without Alice?

[fathom rock]

Welcome to pvp

[whole pawn]

should i maybe swap sbs and alice with cindy rh?

[whole pawn]

?

[fathom rock]

Centi/biscuit/sbs/anis/rh
How much cp?

[eager mountain]

maybe i need a new defense team now shits no longer working well

f him

[white compass]

Same brotha

[white compass]

Luckily I only aim for diamond 3 so sometimes there are plenty of other options besides me

[whole pawn]

Sr anis is 20k cp xd

[fathom rock]

Sbs one-shot rapunzel with dd trust

[whole pawn]

I don't think no one would ol her anyway or even invest her

[whole pawn]

sir I lost on entry, do u wanna gamble this? do u?

[fathom rock]

[eager mountain]

YOU MUST GO BEYOND

[whole pawn]

would that team, beat 3 defenders and a reviver and one nuke?

3 DEFENDERS

sbs would win?

one nuke from Cindy and I am deadge

not using jackal in T3?

[fathom rock]

Sbs will land 1 shot between tia and rapunzel
If this kills rapunzel ggs
Risky
Lemme find a jackal way

[whole pawn]

this sounds like cope anyway

[whole pawn]

mmmm this doesn't led to a good ending

ok so what now?

I need to do smt else can't sit here

[fathom rock]

What is your quantum cube lvl?

[whole pawn]

I haven't eaten dinner yet

[whole pawn]

resilience is 8 I think, other are 3

[fathom rock]

Sbs/centi/anis/rh/jackal would win here but I need 2nd team cook now

[vast junco]

rosanna steals jackal link in this situation right? or does it take in account OL attack?

[whole pawn]

team 1?

[eager mountain]

OL line counts if my brain isnt fried

[white compass]

My cp changes whenever I change an OL line

[whole pawn]

@fathom rock

[fathom rock]

Swap viper for biscuit
And give rumani Quantum cube

[eager mountain]

also u can always run test on union practice range btw

[whole pawn]

I forgot rumani is a defender

[whole pawn]

done

[fathom rock]

And give quantum to maiden too
And if there is still a slot give to biscuit too

[whole pawn]

sadly no

[fathom rock]

T1 is also risky, you have to survive indom rh or kill that blanc

But your odds are better than last t3

[whole pawn]

T3 is hard ngl

[fathom rock]

Important
Put xmaid p5

[vast junco]

ah she gets it

[whole pawn]

biscuit P4?

[eager mountain]

good my brains likely not fried yet then

[fathom rock]

Yes

[whole pawn]

shall I start!? I have no hope

I m gonna regret this honestly

[eager mountain]

u can always cope when run out of hope

[fathom rock]

Yes
I really doubt T1 tbh

It's super risky

[whole pawn]

T1 ez

gg

[fathom rock]

[eager mountain]

[fathom rock]

How close was T1?

[whole pawn]

blanc died first

[fathom rock]

You killed blanc ez gg

I expected her to last

[whole pawn]

lol

thx retro

[fathom rock]

[eager mountain]

cuz 238 sync?

[fathom rock]

I really wish I had a jackal rn

[whole pawn]

damn belorta solo

[upper grove]

she didn't suffer enough in neverland event story

[fathom rock]

I simply don't care if I lose there

[whole pawn]

damn the scarlet slash caught me

damn retro is chal 2 on his alt, meanwhile me struggle on chal 10

[tardy canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-star-wars-emperor-do-it-go-for-it-gif-17446081

[upper grove]

retro is a bona fide malder though

[fathom rock]

My main is in a warzone

[whole pawn]

https://tenor.com/view/devil-may-cry-5-dmc5-vergil-dmc5-vergil-devil-may-cry-5-dmc5-vergil-gif-14136786929622716875

[whole pawn]

chinese ppl are scary

[fathom rock]

I just realized most of them in cn or jp union

[whole pawn]

you are alone in that war

https://tenor.com/view/oi-gif-20749371

[unique wagon]

When Jackal was released I kneww Scar was gonna be op immediately

[fathom rock]

My main :
Jackal but no scar
My alt :
Scar but no jackal

[unique wagon]

[unique wagon]

Come here let me hug u

[eager mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/xxiisoul-thanos-gif-23843096
merge ur acc for full powah

[keen vapor]

Where's your selector

[mighty haven]

Sometimes I wish I didn't wake up at random moments

[keen vapor]

Useful tho

[mighty haven]

True, then again

[keen vapor]

?

Oh wait, gemming

[kind fable]

where can I find good up to date team comps

[keen vapor]

I haven't cooked

[kind fable]

huh

[keen vapor]

And my PVP guide is cancelled, since we already have #1153017654332883055

Gomen

[summer copper]

what if, a guide with less reading?

[keen vapor]

I also only have 9 blue maintenance kits so can't even try my second super success on Helm doll

[kind fable]

thats a lot of words 😎

[keen vapor]

PVP for dummies

Never read those books but I know them

[rich quail]

You were gonna make a pvp guide?

[keen vapor]

Not sure

[rich quail]

Echo’s PVP Guide

Step 1: Never use cd cases
Save them for Nikke 2

Finished

[keen vapor]

[rich quail]

There, saved you the trouble

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

C8-10 is the true war zone indeed.

[graceful grotto]

im finally back in c2

💀 it was a whole season of war at c4-6 last season

[swift mango]

Anchor could be Blanc 2nd and a must pull here...

My investment on Grave is wasted

[graceful grotto]

oh a water b2 can be interesting

[swift mango]

Good bye Rem if Anchor good...

[valid fern]

Anchor 😭

[keen vapor]

Yeah, I'm sensing indom buff

[graceful grotto]

i mean... rem was shafted so hard once crown drop lol

she lost her stance later too when more b2 drop like mari, s.ros, grave

kinda sad cause i mlb her

[swift mango]

I still use her because she was my first OL units and work just fine.

[valid fern]

Sometimes I consider investing in SR Anchor for flex. And since my bracket is dumb and the best they can do is copy my comps, they will also invest in SR Anchor 😭

[umbral belfry]

there's no room for pepper for now right? just pulled her

RL-wise

[swift mango]

Swap pepper with Maiden

Unless your maiden is invested for some reason.

[umbral belfry]

looks like their burst gen is pretty much the same, still want me to?

and nah she isn't really, granted neither is my pepper but i'm in a good place def wise rn anyway

[swift mango]

Pepper is better because she is B1 in case Noise ded

[umbral belfry]

oh right good point

does she keep the same placement in p5?

[swift mango]

Should be fine on defense team

[umbral belfry]

yup yup this is just for def, ty ty!

[swift mango]

Use Anchor for lv1 p2....

Flex your investment

[heavy copper]

can someone help me build 3 team for sp arena, i have lot of nikke but i don't no how to build

[keen vapor]

Guys, pick me up
I'm scared

He changed def again this is painful

[loud sonnet]

Is the helm even treasured tho?

[keen vapor]

I wonder

He has 2 stars so is not ouf the realm of possibility

[loud sonnet]

Can you even get treasure without MLB?

[keen vapor]

It doesn't requires 3 stars, only 2

[loud sonnet]

I didn't know that

[keen vapor]

His current teams have less feed 2RL Noah Cindy is doomed now

He's a mastermind @tropic summit

He doesn't even use Blanc anymore

Or bay

He's flexing on me

Now no attack team that I had works on him

[upper grove]

how many levels would you gain with your boxes

[keen vapor]

Is almost as if he knew how I attack him

[turbid sinew]

@fallen berry yo this you?

[keen vapor]

61 but this is not level problem

[upper grove]

well yeah the guy knows how to build teams

[keen vapor]

Surely he doesn't checks this channel to see how I leave my video records

[upper grove]

just out CP him with your boxes once new chapters hit

maybe eon, rail, blood or rheax can cook something

[keen vapor]

I doubt I'll be able to

[keen vapor]

Surely they cook for me if I attend this person right Blood-kun?

[keen vapor]

You should be closer to 300 than that .... Maybe

Also, isn't too low investment for Noah? don't culp me if they CP diff you

[keen vapor]

I got you these teams ready but I'm curious, what's your Moran investment?

[upper grove]

does Cindy give them slightly more burst at P3 if taunted by Noise?

as in: noise taunts, gets hit by RL

[keen vapor]

Well, the point of Noise P2 is to not keep aggro

But it requires charge speed overload line

[upper grove]

yep which was my concern

[keen vapor]

Surely everyone who overloads Noise gets that

[upper grove]

still works, just put Cindy P4

[keen vapor]

Or Noise P5

[graceful grotto]

what team u use her on?

[keen vapor]

And Biscuit P2

[graceful grotto]

how much u invest on moran echo?

[keen vapor]

Still, I'm not sure about final teams, bc of that Moran

Please ping when you answer my questions hng-... Idk how to read that

[strong hull]

How to Rosanna

[graceful grotto]

7 10 10 - 4 atk on OL

put an anis in pos 1

done

[strong hull]

I cant take it anymore cereal

ill get anchor

[graceful grotto]

we dont even know her kit lmao

[strong hull]

Who care

[graceful grotto]

but if she's another blanc, yeah it's gonna be a must pull

[graceful grotto]

mast is coming first tomorrow right?

oh wait it's not tomorrow

[keen vapor]

Not a must pull I need to get Collab with vouchers only

I need to save vouchers

[graceful grotto]

aren't you a pvp slave

[strong hull]

Spent it

[keen vapor]

And I skipped both Moran and Bay banners

[rich quail]

8 days from now
They’re just uploading the files and doing the update a week early for some reason

[keen vapor]

New hard mode for union raid, maybe

[rich quail]

Can’t play the new story with Mast/Anchor until next week

Tomorrow is Mana story hard mode

[keen vapor]

It was interesting what they told

If you beat a boss you keep an attempt but units are gone now

[rich quail]

Union Raid Hard Mode was terrible

[empty shuttle]

Is it really that treasure helm can just make a 3rl team by herself?

[keen vapor]

[graceful grotto]

[keen vapor]

4 RL

3.5 with charge speed

[rich quail]

It was

[keen vapor]

I just hope we get 16k chips again

[rich quail]

Well yeah we need those chips bad

[strong hull]

Very

[rich quail]

The difficulty on hard mode tho…

There are a lot of high-level people in my union

Barely beat level 4

I got destroyed by a level 2 boss

[keen vapor]

@rich quail he hates me

Tsubasa hates me

[strong hull]

@graceful grotto

I got Scarlet now

Back to pvp statement

[graceful grotto]

oh

gonna take awhile to build her tho

10 7 10

[cedar orbit]

He needs to get her to 10/10/10 and 60% attack rolls

🤡, 4 chips they gave away coming down on me

[valid fern]

lmao how does that even happen

[cedar orbit]

He is probably dying to Scarlet counters

[rich quail]

godspeed

🫡

I’m working on Scarlet too

[strong hull]

Only RH left

[graceful grotto]

i thought u say u got her

i knew u were lying

[strong hull]

Where

[rich quail]

called out!

[strong hull]

2b kraken at sync 280 not too bad eh

[graceful grotto]

pretty good

[strong hull]

Im also got 3 ammo line for Tove

she do love me

[graceful grotto]

u 9 4 4 her as well?

[strong hull]

Nope

Wip

[graceful grotto]

well we need drake treasure now anyway for SG team

gonna take awhile

[keen vapor]

@tropic summit
Update: He got Treasure Helm before me

[upper grove]

100 blue kits for Helm R0 -> SR5 now the suffering begins

[keen vapor]

I'm like at 40-50 for R5

Could you believe it? limited by blue mats

[upper grove]

very first one was super success to 5, then 5 for 6, 2 for 10, 2 for 15

[keen vapor]

Waos

[graceful grotto]

what's ur helm's doll lvl atm?

[keen vapor]

Cof

[upper grove]

RH SR10 drained 40 gold 70 purple 120 blue or sth like that, now Helm is stuck at SR5

[keen vapor]

Rest in pepperoni

[graceful grotto]

welp at leat you're SR now

i'm still at R5

[upper grove]

1/1/1 Helm without OL and just SR5 doll is 2nd row, my units are all low invest except first row

[swift mango]

Better than my auto. 🤔

[keen vapor]

invest harder

My Moran is first row

[upper grove]

Moran best underworld queen

[keen vapor]

Blood, Tsubasa got Helm treasure before me :hu tao why: he is the real PVP malder

[swift mango]

My Tove is 945 and will be reset because I haven't used her for months.

[swift mango]

Well, good luck to you

[keen vapor]

thank you

[quartz prawn]

maybe u got some insane doll luck
i thought my luck was decent but i fall behind u in dolls

[coral ridge]

can anyone help with SP Arena teams just trying to do best I can

this what I run currently but didn't think too hard

[graceful grotto]

you're not running SG team in SR?

[late schooner]

How much burst generation does maxed Helm do compared to clip RL Nikkes?

[keen vapor]

Top 1

If skill 1 is maxed

[swift mango]

Nah, I don't have B Soda built and also no Tove OL

[graceful grotto]

icic

[swift mango]

I had Drake, Noir, Sugar OL before B.Soda released so don't have resource to OL

[keen vapor]

If no investment then she's below Centi

[swift mango]

More clip SG

[upper grove]

I was damn lucky with only 100 blue kits for SR5, I had back to back SBS and Rapi SR15 dolls from 6 > 10 > 11 > 15

[late schooner]

Does the burst generation from skill 1 work with quantum cube or no

[upper grove]

very first doll Alice was cursed though

[keen vapor]

Iirc it doesn't

[keen vapor]

Press auto for third team

[quartz prawn]

irrc i have 10ish sr 5.
i'm stealing ur luck

[fallen berry]

Yea that's me, waddup

[keen vapor]

Ok blood-kun
I'm going to sleep, please cook while I replenish energy

[strong hull]

No Echocho-san

None gonna sleep here

[coral ridge]

woah what is this? some sort of calculator to determine quick burst?

[turbid sinew]

check yo pvp rank

[umbral belfry]

it's in pins i believe

[quick lake]

Yep exactly. The calc shows when u’ll burst in RL time. All the pvp
info is in the first pinned message

[fathom rock]

Bro beat the warcraft whale

[swift mango]

Now hold it

[cedar orbit]

Is that a Scarlet, Blanc, Alice, Noir, Jackal team?

[fathom rock]

[fathom rock]

We all know he will change def and never get touched again

[violet prism]

Hello Chefs, can someone help me update my SPA teams?

[tropic summit]

he's probably playing 4D chess under your bed at night

[tropic summit]

my whale got HelmT the moment i logged in when she was released

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[tropic summit]

noise viper cind liter anis
rrh blanc centi alice jackal
sbs naga bsoda mana rh

cubes (when available)

quantm on anis, centi
vigor on noise, blanc
rest run highest available lvl cube

wishlist/build: get asap noah, biscuit, rumani, helm treasured, scarlet

notes: ensure RRH is lowest max HP between alice and jackal for T2 to work properly on indom

get your teams reviewed once you find the above

[violet prism]

Thank you Chef

any reason we not using xmaiden for battery?

[tropic summit]

you can noise liter cind xmaiden anis, at the cost of risking both B1s on p1 and p2 for the extra CP

that team would get improved by rumani once you find her

alternatively you can sub b.soda for xmaiden

[violet prism]

I see

[tropic summit]

the SG on defense for T3 adds pressure on enemy p5, so you'd trade for that

[violet prism]

Yeah my maiden is a bit built just for pvp

[tropic summit]

if you specifically intend to burst with her, you'd sub SBS for xmaiden, although keep in mind you'll be building SBS for campaign anyway

[violet prism]

Right

I am working on my SBS now, because i heard she is good in somewhere ch 30+

Also any reason why we using Alice in 2nd team?

[tropic summit]

flex unit, mainly for CP padding

also works to ensure jackal is linked with her

as she links with the top 2 atk% units, in your case that'd be RRH and alice

[violet prism]

Gotcha

Thank you for answering my questions

[tropic summit]

no problem, hit this chat again once you find the recommendations to improve them

[violet prism]

I will

Also a last question, which of these would u say are core units that i can focus on OL gear?

Once I am done with campaign teams, i would like to use the extra gear exp for the pvp teams

[eager mountain]

ud move on to kraken once done with campaign

so sbs wont hurt since u also using her, as for now

[violet prism]

okies

[tropic summit]

i'd say first get your main B3s to 4OL lvl 0 with burst skill at least lvl 7

[eager mountain]

rrh is also busted in general, and ofc alice if not optimized already, pvp is mostly RL cs and cp pad OL lines for non dps, and atk for dps

[tropic summit]

following that, batteries and ideally pvp core units (biscuit, noah, noise, jackal, blanc, centi)

for nikke running in p1 p2 and p5 maybe consider at least body on OL lvl 0

[eager mountain]

i like giving every rl a cs, and noise's costed 30 rocks, yes, 30 rolls for a cs line

[violet prism]

Damn

Yeah I will just go for OL lvl 0, no need to sweat the OL lines for now

[eager mountain]

mostly just clip rl and emilia want cs line the most, yeah dont waste rocks on pvp yet

[violet prism]

I will do that enough for the campaign teams

[quick lake]

Expensive

[eager mountain]

average cost rolling a cs line is like 4.63 rocks, who knew i was fuc*ed that hard

[quick lake]

Happens

[fathom rock]

New défense works

[eager mountain]

all dia 1 mfs at u

[bleak latch]

anyone using her in pvp yet

wanna know opnion

[eager mountain]

not ss rank worth but s imo

[fathom rock]

Diamond 1,and 2, and 3 are composed of mostly whales and my low cp stands out as a sore thumn

[fathom rock]

Not yet bc I haven't built her
Probably will after I do

[bleak latch]

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[eager mountain]

man f him, team change earlier on didnt work

[fathom rock]

I thought her burst gen is similiar to normal rl

[tropic summit]

slightly worse than scarlet

[fathom rock]

Att skill lv10?

[eager mountain]

lv10 still worse

[violet prism]

Bro my RRH is higher HP than Jackal and alice, send help

[tropic summit]

give vigor to jackal and alice and pray

[violet prism]

ok

[tropic summit]

alternatively until fixed, you could run her without body for a while, but it's annoying to deal with

[fathom rock]

Lvl up their boots

[violet prism]

She has full OL gears

[fathom rock]

I don't think I can win

I need like 500k cp comp?

[eager mountain]

@tropic summit i dont trust myself anymore, dear rail, give me a sp team, dont have t laplace

[tropic summit]

if you can't achive RRH on lowest max HP, just throw SBS in her place and throw xmaiden instead of SBS, workaround until you get jackal and alice on higher HP

[tropic summit]

post your box with nikke ordered by strength so i can arrange them based on investiment

[violet prism]

Ok let me try that

[tropic summit]

the rule still stays tho, as in SBS must be lowest max HP among alice and jackal

chances are higher as i think you don't have her as invested as RRH

[violet prism]

yep, gotcha

[tropic summit]

the reason for that (as you may have guessed) is to ensure indom goes to her

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

dayum synch 516, you've been playing for a while, taking a look

oh right, helm treasured already?

[quick lake]

Do u buy core dust? I feel like im below average day 1 sync

[eager mountain]

s1 lv10 s2 treasured no burst

[tropic summit]

rosanna investiment?

[eager mountain]

7/5/10, ol no atk but only crit atk+rate

[tropic summit]

hmm oki

thinking about 2 teams 2.5RL and 1 3RL

get back to you shortly

[eager mountain]

no, but i reroll dispatch if 5+ not cd or credit or gem, used to use supply chest for cd

[quick lake]

Oh man, that means I bricked somewhere

[fathom rock]

It aint a brick if you aren't behind in bracket lvls

But then again no emilia is already a brick

How long will I keep c4

[quick lake]

Wow, im like 20+ sync behind zzz

Never min max hard enough

[quick lake]

Im at c9 now

[fathom rock]

I'll join you in an hour dw

[tropic summit]

scarlet emi rh anis jackal
noise centi cind helm rumani
noah biscuit rapu s.anis noir

cubes:

quantum on anis, jackal, centi, rumani
vigor on noise, biscuit, rapu
resil on s.anis
temperance on noah

notes:

-building la+ would allow for a team with double pressure on p2 (emi + laplace), would force the hand on opponents
-getting CS% on centi/jackal would allow for 1 more team on natural 2RL
-T1 is likely 2RL due to feed

[eager mountain]

[tropic summit]

i'd go with this for now, let's see how it does, if it still fails we can add an indom team variation

lemme know

[eager mountain]

ya gonna see how it works

[tropic summit]

eva 2nd collab will signal if an actual emilia rerun could ever possibly happen if "old" asuka, rei and mari are gonna rerun

[fathom rock]

[tropic summit]

aye copium it is

[eager mountain]

emi ol cs is 6% btw

prob same for that team w/ feed tho

[tropic summit]

eh that's fine, still wouldn't hit 2RL natural threshold, but with feed that team is hitting 2RL anyway

[fathom rock]

This thing is like 1 quantum away or 1 scar/jack proc away from 2rl

[eager mountain]

i stop at 6 cuz i wanna use the 6+cube to f up with their emi cs guessing tho never rly tested anyway

[tropic summit]

4D chess player

[fathom rock]

Well it didn't work out did it

[eager mountain]

i never knew if it did the wonder, hope defence gets record

ig imma try it again in rookie if i use her as b3 again somehow there

[eager mountain]

wait, noir sanis

imma xmaiden ig

[tropic summit]

double pressure on p5 on def, although double feed against possible scar-jack, you can indeed put xmaiden, although an emi/laplace would've been even better

since we using emi elsewhere and lappy wasn't available, decided on SG pressure, but you can throw an xmaiden instead too

T3 could become your indom team if def fails anyway

[eager mountain]

sg pressure worth noir s2 bricking sanis last bullet? or i can use soba pressure

[tropic summit]

oh b.soda is an option 🤔

and yeah true for the ammo, not worth i guess

xmaiden or b.soda seem better

[eager mountain]

technically xmaiden is far better invested tho thats because of, elem lines for pve lol

[tropic summit]

guess xmaiden it is then

[eager mountain]

while soba getting 1 or none elem

[tropic summit]

CP + less feed + splash

[eager mountain]

but elec elem dmg in pvp lol...

[tropic summit]

yeah

lappy as iron in that team is my favourite pick

as she puts pressure on eletric nikke in p1 and p2

[eager mountain]

guess i might still trasure her if champion arena increase her need, most likely

[tropic summit]

mhm, likely in CA

[fathom rock]

Dw you have 10 more years

Hopefully this year

[eager mountain]

su told me that ca is out tomorrow

[tropic summit]

if anything the SP arena and rookie random disconnects may be linked to them trying to implement CA

[fathom rock]

[tropic summit]

you could say something was probably done or is starting to be done

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/will-ferrell-elf-buddy-the-elf-throne-of-lies-christmas-gif-1174038786188830953

[eager mountain]

https://tenor.com/view/whhyyyy-vanish-vanish-emoji-emoji-vanish-whhhyyyy-gif-10057259719602444514

[swift mango]

But you were C1 before

Try keeping C4-6 for the rest of the season at least.

[quick lake]

Yeah, will try. I think THelm really shook things up. Easier 2x 2 RL attack teams

[potent ermine]

@quick lake r u alive

I need pvp

[quick lake]

suree

[potent ermine]

I own everything except Scarlet and Xanne

No Treasure Helm nor Maiden tho

[quick lake]

Can send box sorted by CP horizontal

[potent ermine]

im going to build noah yes

[vapid burrow]

Can someone please help me with my special areana defender team? I had been doing alright but a handful of nikkes have come out and ive just been a mess since

[quick lake]

Can try this

[quick lake]

Yep sure, gimme a sec to cook

[potent ermine]

Double Biscuit

[quick lake]

Oops

[quick lake]

Swap Biscuit in T3 with Grave

[quick lake]

no Rumani?

[swift mango]

You have good invested arena line up. I don't know if a help could improve your defense or not. Maybe send your current defense so we would know if it could be improved.

[potent ermine]

Bold of you to assume my Redhood have more HP than my Max core Rapi

[swift mango]

Equip her with Vigor then

[potent ermine]

That not how that work

my redhood zero dupe vs max core

[quick lake]

Tentative can try this. Not the best cook, because Noir not included First time cooking with A2, 2B

[quick lake]

That it true.. lemme see what we can move ard

[potent ermine]

If probably best if you make the first 2 team

the 3rd can be whatever

[swift mango]

Well, you could just math yourself and see if Red hood's HP*1.09 > Rapi

[potent ermine]

also I would need to place vigor cube on my jackal as well

[swift mango]

Try swap RH with Crown or Maxwell if you have their skill at max investment and enough HP.

Crown s1+2, Maxwell s1

Rapipi naturally feed too much though so probably lose hard to scarlet anyway...

[potent ermine]

Maxwell don't have enough

2.13 hp vs 2.36

Crown sure but using jackal

Maxwell is like .60 hp shy of being able to

2,292,154.57 final value

[swift mango]

Well, Vigor level 7 is actually x1.0969 so she should be fine.

[quick lake]

If u want 2 teams, u can try:

[potent ermine]

bold of you to assume I own a lvl 7 vigor

Blood this is why I don't ask for your advice on pvp

[swift mango]

Chop chop, you know what to upgrade after next union raid.

[vapid burrow]

only got her very recently so I haven't been able to invest into her, would you recommend doing so?

[potent ermine]

You assume too much shit about what I should have and not have I actually have and you already know there no reasonable way im going to level vigor cube over getting Resilence 12 and Bastion 12 first

[quick lake]

Yep! Definitely. Just initial 4OLs are good enough When u have her invested, can just swap Pepper for Rumani

[vapid burrow]

thank you sorry for getting back late, still happy to send my current team too

[quick lake]

Yes! That would be nice! Interested to see how u cook with A2/2B

[swift mango]

You can just SR0 her if you want. Won't need to SR5.

[quick lake]

If u have Nier collab units, means ur pvp is kinda lagging behind in terms of sync

[vapid burrow]

i've had help in the past to put this together. previous 2b has been on a team but not since i got s.anis

[swift mango]

Yeah, it doesn't look good.

[quick lake]

Can probably try the teams I recommended. Can come back for help if we need to cook again

[vapid burrow]

thanks so much for the help, i really appreciate it

[quick lake]

@swift mango Do we need double buffed SAnis nowadays? Blanc + RH or something? I feel like Blanc + SAnis sucks

All my Blanc + SAnis match up always loses (admittedly idk how to cook with them)

Just dont go up against Noise-buffed opponents?

[swift mango]

I'm using Blanc+S.Anis+Emi right now thank to you... Won 1-2 defense thus far...

I can't really do summer Anis no more....

[swift mango]

Blanc+S.Anis+Emi+Biscuit+Rumani

Is 2.5RL, can't get it any better unless you add HelmT...

[quick lake]

Hmm yeah, that seems like the "best" comp so far

[swift mango]

I like that when my S.Anis suicide into Scarlet I still have Emilia to fall back to

[quick lake]

Idk, dmg feels somewhat lacking Struggles against Noah, biscuited Noah, dead against scar-jack

[swift mango]

Otherwise, basically can't win against even 4rl Scarjack because ASS keep suiciding...

[quick lake]

Yeah, I think Emi + SAnis most stable

Maybe my SAnis just sucks

[swift mango]

My ASS has 2 DEF line even

[swift mango]

I think ASS need max core or at least MLB to work....

[quick lake]

LB2 maybe not enough dmg

[swift mango]

I mean, surviving issue... She keep dying before even burst...

[quick lake]

Yeah, that's possible as well

[swift mango]

Your bracket is 401+ so I don't have the same issue... Yeah, Ass is weak against Cindy and Scarlet teams but my bracket had lower investment anyway...

But who knows... I could never see what they beat me with

[quick lake]

Hope CA at least tells us how many win/lose teams

[swift mango]

You could try adding Mana into ASS team...

Or helm as 2nd b3

Since you don't have Emi

[quick lake]

Got no more mats to invest in new units

Will go into hoarding mode until half anniv

[swift mango]

Mana can be used cheap though... 444 sr0

[quick lake]

Hmm possible. Will prolly hold off for now

Valentine + Collab units soon

[swift mango]

You mean you don't have Mana?

[quick lake]

I have her. But prolly not gonna invest any time soon

I dont use SAnis in my defence teams at all nowadays rarely used her in the first place

[swift mango]

Anyway, ASS right now has 2 weakness.

Against Cindy+Biscuit, she doesn't have enough dmg and would lose to slower speed Cindy.

Against Scarlet, She could just suicide before even bursting. Not to mention LapT.

[mighty haven]

@nocturne arrow this isn't you in my bracket is it

[swift mango]

He is ready to snipe you.

[quick lake]

Yeah exactly. And those 2 teams are essentially ALL the SPA team

[mighty haven]

No thanks, I have my hands full with C3 + 2 already

Tbh I probably won't get C1 end of season, one day of not logging in to C6 rip

Not that, there's certain C6 or C7 who will only snipe me when I'm in C3

They won't try at any other position

[swift mango]

Now that I looked at it again, you are gemming it to c1. Oh shit...

Nvm my other comments then

Good luck in your endeavors friend.

[nocturne arrow]

Yup.
Tried to fight you and i dont get a single win lol

[mighty haven]

When 😮

Try knocking on Joey's door

You only need to make two good teams

[nocturne arrow]

A few times i think, since i saw your power isnt that much different than mine.

[mighty haven]

If you can beat these two teams, you can do anything

[swift mango]

Post his def here, we could help you beat him. 😈

[nocturne arrow]

First one? Maybe
Second one? Nope

[nocturne arrow]

Im lacking a lot of characters lol

[swift mango]

They have high core but their CP is kinda low.

Definitely beatable.

[nocturne arrow]

I will focus on getting first on single ranking first

[mighty haven]

Ah, but you have Madou to fight

[nocturne arrow]

Yeah
Our core different is almost 30 but the CP isnt that different

[mighty haven]

Oh yeah I do it all the time, just for some reason their gemming switch turned on

We've both spent 1500 gems in the last 5 hours

[swift mango]

Yeah, he won't even hold C10 in my bracket... But my bracket is 321+ now lol

[mighty haven]

I can't wait for reshuffle

As long as I don't get to see Joey or 2B again

[swift mango]

Eh you could see whale 40-60-80 level higher than you though.

On top of the oldies.

Don't get your hopes on reshuffle

[nocturne arrow]

bruh i fought 2B a lot

we fought like everyday for that 6th place

[mighty haven]

2B is my mini nemesis, won't attack Joey, only me

We traded 1800 gems in 30 minutes last season

while I was working in the office fml

[nocturne arrow]

what the reward for winning?

[mighty haven]

Nothing, just rank

[nocturne arrow]

i mean on gems

[quick lake]

3000 gems for rank 1,2,3

[swift mango]

Gem doesn't matters

[mighty haven]

2700 for C4-C6

2400 for C7-C10

I probably burnt my C1-C3 gems, but so has Joey

[swift mango]

When people start gemming, it's over that fighting for reward

[nocturne arrow]

fight for supremacy huh

[swift mango]

My bracket 2 Chinese are very principle, they won't hit more than 2 a day. Not even used their 4 reward hits.

[chilly furnace]

Fight for pride

[swift mango]

Okay, the non whale did used more than 3 hits once.

[mighty haven]

Joey used to only attack me for free twice

And then something clicked when they realised they would get C1 this season....if the rankings stayed the same

[chilly furnace]

Those ppl can do more if they really want to beat u sometime

[nocturne arrow]

this guy is first on my rookie arena

cant defeat him for a few weeks now

[mighty haven]

So we have ping pong

[mighty haven]

I can win against them in SPA

[chilly furnace]

A pretty normal daily SPA activity

[nocturne arrow]

why he lose to me?
im 4th lol

[mighty haven]

Maybe defense stronger

[nocturne arrow]

i dont even think my team set up is that good

[mighty haven]

Me I'm probably easy to beat

If you CP gap

Or you target my less built team, and then work on a strat to hit my proper PvP ones

[swift mango]

Could send your line up and Joey up so people help you beat him... The doro would have better chance at c1 lol

[glad meteor]

Under the assumption that joey doesn’t gem making doro c4

[mighty haven]

Who doro

[glad meteor]

[mighty haven]

Oh right

Well rn I'm fighting Joey again

[glad meteor]

Isn’t your sanis invested now so don’t need privaty

[nocturne arrow]

yup, 779 without max ammo

here is the other

[mighty haven]

Yeah you can ditch Priv
XMaiden/Treasure La+/Treasure Helm available?

And how built is your Ein

[nocturne arrow]

777 with 74k power

[mighty haven]

I think once you get Helm Treasure

[nocturne arrow]

how about him first

[mighty haven]

Nael is easy....

I mean, Asian New Face

[swift mango]

No centi, no Jackal, no Noah?

[nocturne arrow]

i already use them, those are the rest

[mighty haven]

T1 - you could avoid, however they dumb by putting Scar in P3, so much less feed - 2.5 RL Noah will be fast enough to cover before Centi stun

T2 - fast nuke, can use Ein

T3 - I personally wouldn't fight this, unless you want to outstall

Actually....let me go do some cooking for T3

[nocturne arrow]

okay, i'll wait

here is all it

[swift mango]

What's the chance of their Centi having higher attack then Rapunzel and Privaty? His CP looks good so it shouldn't happen right? That's one bad line up otherwise.

[mighty haven]

I'd have to fight again to see

If their centi was linked, don't think so

[nocturne arrow]

i can send video if you want

but what the formation?

[mighty haven]

oooo you do have Scar scar

[nocturne arrow]

just got her, unbuild

[swift mango]

Doroemon is cooking

[mighty haven]

You have RH? or no

[nocturne arrow]

sadly no

[keen vapor]

Yup, it's on pinned messages

[mighty haven]

Lemme know CP if you do:

Team 1: Noah/Ein/Liter/Biscuit/Centi (3RL with Quantum on Centi)
Team 2: Scarlet/Blanc/Noise/Noir/Jackal (3RL with Quantum on Jackal)

@nocturne arrow and just lmk what team comp + CP you get if you create Auto T3

[nocturne arrow]

okay, wait a minute

on 2nd team, i dont think my noir is good enough

[mighty haven]

.....no she'll be fine

anything 15.4% below overall is enough

[nocturne arrow]

lose on the 2-3

[glad meteor]

Noise indom or scarlet not strong enough?

[mighty haven]

What's CP of T2/team of T3 and total CP?

[swift mango]

His Scarlet in unbuilt

[mighty haven]

in the meantime me and Joey are at 2k Gems and counting

[swift mango]

Want to employ my cooking?

[glad meteor]

They have cindy

[nocturne arrow]

sure