pvp-arena

[coarse lake]

Rapipi initial hit can't kill with just dkw buff at near blue in ely

[quick lake]

[coarse lake]

Helm burst in campaign sounds hella meme imo, maybe if you specifically need your dps to heal a lot

[unique wagon]

With RH and Crown can potentially kill

[quick lake]

Ch35,36 gonna be water weak

[coarse lake]

With any decent deficit I doubt it

[swift mango]

And boss I'm with no core ofc

[coarse lake]

Blue probably

Blue for sure actually

[unique wagon]

Problem is with removing Rapipi. If only Rapipi can B3 there.

[bleak shale]

helm burst is like ur 2 min into the fight and about to die from nihilister laser turrets p2 for example

pop a helm burst rq

[coarse lake]

Just rng until nihil hits Cindy

I've had nihil runs where I take basically 0 mg dmg first phase bc she either hit Cindy or invuln crown

[unique wagon]

RH Crown Rapi Alice DWife is still best general comp

[bleak shale]

i like rapi b3

but i also cant find any terrain to burst gen off when i play rapi b3

my entire screen got cleared

[unique wagon]

[unique wagon]

Dont use her burst first

Lower range

[bleak shale]

but her burst gives me neuron activations

when my screen evaporates

[unique wagon]

True

[strange quail]

Hello guys, any suggestion to beat this dude ? My Helm and Drake is Treasured lv1

Helm skill 1 is level 9

[unique wagon]

Ah the standard pvp comp

[coarse lake]

Not even using jackal, ballsy

[unique wagon]

2 rl noah against t1 or noah against t2, or 4-5RL Blanc Scarlet T3

Rip no noah

2 rl cindy t2 then

[bleak shale]

u can prob setup an actual 3rl scarlet/cindy team 2, hes tia bursting

and bop it

[strange quail]

But Tia gonna shield Scar burst no ?

[unique wagon]

Jackal Centi Cindy Emilia Noise

Dunno if this is 2RL.

[bleak shale]

tia shield doesnt stop scar

[coarse lake]

Or just Laplace sub dps to kill scar and facetank nuke

Revived scar does basically nothing

[strange quail]

Laplace uninvested sadly

[coarse lake]

XMaiden then

[unique wagon]

Blanc Scarlet X Rapunzel Biscuit and make it 4-5 RL. Make sure Scar gets indom.

Oh wait

I wonder if Scar can wipe

Wait he has Helm

[strange quail]

Can I do Noise Centi Cindy Helm+ Emilia instead

[unique wagon]

Nvm its treasure 1 eh its still good enuf

[umbral crown]

thats where my viper+ and emi gonna shine

[unique wagon]

Is that 2 RL?

[strange quail]

I think so, Helm+ got crazy burst gen

[unique wagon]

How sure are u that ur Noise wont suddenly die before 2 RL?

[strange quail]

hmm that is a concern

[unique wagon]

Ffs where is Rapipi @bleak shale

Disappointed

[bleak shale]

blaming me for not my sheet

[strange quail]

Can X here be a random CP padder ?

[unique wagon]

I wonder if Rapipi or Scar is better there

If Scar dies from splash its not funny no buff wipe

@bleak shale u go cook

[bleak shale]

u got this, i go sleep now

[strange quail]

ya you are true, Scarlet die from splash

team 2 won tho

[unique wagon]

• T2: Noise Centi Cindy HelmTr Jackal (if Noise is linked)
• T2: Jackal Centi Cindy HelmTr Noise (if Cindy + HelmTr is linked)
• T3: Blanc Rapi Biscuit Rapunzel Emilia
• T3: Blanc Scarlet Biscuit Rapunzel Drake/Noir

Not sure which T3 is better.

Tf why did u run before we finish cooking

[strange quail]

Sorry Sadge, I will try again tho

I have the vid

[unique wagon]

I knew it no damage cus she died

Wait

If that T2 survives then Jackal with Scarlet is more stable but ur Noise almost died

Ur enemy has scary comps lmao

Once they get HelmTr its ggover for you

[strange quail]

Yeah I think this guy dump all of his rocks on PvP units lmao

[unique wagon]

No Noah brick that is

[strange quail]

I also play for PvE so, and also no Noah

[unique wagon]

Hmm u might not be that bricked tbh

[strange quail]

I got timed out for 1 minutes for typing the F word lmao

I need to get away from this one guy, who is randomly decided to mess with me today

Normally I would not even bother to get top 1

[unique wagon]

^

Rapi variant is safer I think

At least Rapi doesnt kill herself but immunity from Biscuit might mess with it

[strange quail]

Hmm I have one more try, maybe I will try T2-2 and T3-1

[unique wagon]

Not sure if SBS is better either

[strange quail]

Okay I will try
T2: Jackal Centi Cindy HelmTr Noise (if Cindy + HelmTr is linked)
T3: Blanc Rapi Biscuit Rapunzel Emilia
WIsh me luck

[unique wagon]

What I think will happen tho

Is Centi get immunity and survive till ur Rapi Indom expires

Look at this SBS abomination

[strange quail]

Hopefully no CP pelnalty

[coarse lake]

[unique wagon]

Really scary T3 tbh someone can cook better

[coarse lake]

you simply don't fight it unless rosa snipe imo

well I do know of a bscar setup that should work: blanc/bscar/tia/biscuit/rapunzel

haven't tested it much outside of rookie

[unique wagon]

Whether it wins depends if Centi can be killed quickly fast

Your other option is:

• T2: Cindy Centi Emilia HelmTr Noise
• T3: Blanc Scarlet Biscuit RedHood Jackal

No wait

[coarse lake]

eh you got tia, give that a try if you're in cp range, as long as your bscar can kill them in time you're good to go, it's a team that works regardless how strong their emi is, indom is guaranteed on bscar

[keen vapor]

But my Rosanna is not invested

[unique wagon]

That shud work but Jackal must not use quantum

[coarse lake]

why trying to use scarlet there

bscar is just better for team clear

scarlet is only if you're trying to outspeed

[unique wagon]

Ive had worse experience with bscar

[coarse lake]

against that matchup?

[keen vapor]

Same

[swift mango]

You have no Jackal?

[unique wagon]

Not really

[strange quail]

I do sir

[coarse lake]

as long as their emi is the only unit alive when her indom ends you win it

[swift mango]

I don't see it in the video

[coarse lake]

highest cp bscar shouldn't have issue

[unique wagon]

But I know Blanc Scarlet Biscuit RedHood Jackal successrate is ≥90%+

[strange quail]

Because I think HelmTr outspeed Jackal no ?

[coarse lake]

if scar nuke doesn't kill then it could be a problem

also personally I would just go beat up that cindy team

with blanc/rumani/biscuit/centi/cindy, but prob depends on how good your cindy is

their link will help you kill their cindy faster with autos, if your cindy has the dmg

[swift mango]

Use her in Scarlet team...

[unique wagon]

No, he meant use Jackal for last team.

I put Jackal in T2 cus I was scared ur Noise would die. She didnt but u also didnt transfer her over.

CindyTr Centi HelmTr Emilia Noise should be safer tho because I dont think u would lose even if u feed them (maybe).

[swift mango]

His Scarlet team is without buff. Ofc it won't kill. That's the reason people don't use XAnne to revive Scarlet but as buffer only. The revive effect on xAnne in Scarlet team is just to deceive noobs

[coarse lake]

p1 cindy is full feeding them

[coarse lake]

I'm talking about the blanc scarlet attacking setup

[swift mango]

Scarlet revived doesn't have any stack on her s1.

[unique wagon]

U will get blocked by Noah whose ur Biscuit gonna immune?

[swift mango]

Bruh

[coarse lake]

yes I know, revived scarlet won't kill

[strange quail]

Hmm I will hold for the cooking experts

[coarse lake]

biscuit immunes blanc and rumani, cindy autos will be killing

[swift mango]

That's what I said, it's not a problem like u said because it's the norm.

[coarse lake]

although with that noise, could be a bit iffy if weak cindy

[strange quail]

My cindy is maxxed

[coarse lake]

I'm was talking about the blanc scarlet attacking setup might not be able to kill the defending team

[unique wagon]

What if Cindy got hit by Cindy 2x tho?

[coarse lake]

cindy cannot kill cindy

decoy always full blocks both hits, even if it breaks first hit

[swift mango]

He will, with Red hood

[coarse lake]

if you add rh, yeah sure it'll be fine

[unique wagon]

I thought decoy is just a 6th unit and it doesnt block per se

[coarse lake]

cindy hits are stupid, they hit where a dead target is, even showing dmg numbers

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Blanc+RH+CP flex(lower attack than Scarlet)+Jackal

Win again that Emi team anyway day

[quick lake]

Cindy decoys makes her immune to opponent’s cindy nuke

[coarse lake]

first cindy hit lands on decoy, let's say it kills it, second cindy hit still lands where decoy used to be, still showing numbers, does nothing

I've seen my cindy do ghost dmg numbers to a unit that already died to the first hit

[unique wagon]

Interesting

[quick lake]

Because of this, u can run 4-5RL Rumani Blanc Biscuit + Cindy counter to opponent bursting Cindy

[unique wagon]

Well idk it's kinda iffy in a way that Biscuit and Centi will die I assume

[coarse lake]

but your cindy could lose to their noise sustain, so tbh I wouldn't risk it

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Blanc+RH+highest CP unit that's lower ATK than Scarlet+ Jackal

Should win team 3 easily. Unless that's still under deficit.

[coarse lake]

yeah, but you still get to burst, indom lands on someone, hopefully not on the unit next to cindy

and so for the entire indom duration your cindy hopefully kills their team

[unique wagon]

Its probably Rumani in ur example

Or it depends on Burst order

[coarse lake]

prob depends on who their cindy hits first, it can depend

if centi, your cindy will also take splash, so riskier

[unique wagon]

Yeah non ≥90% winrate is unreliable

[coarse lake]

noise there prob makes it a loss unless your invest is a lot higher

otherwise I would be more confident on it

[strange quail]

Okay so this is for team 3, what for team 2 then ? Jackal already taken away

[coarse lake]

just do something at some point, prob ignore the cindy team since I can't trust in your cindy invest

[swift mango]

What's win rate when you can hard counter 2 team on attack?

[swift mango]

I remember you had no Jackal in that video...

[unique wagon]

If this is in my pvp, Im sure my Scar would have died there before she bursts

[strange quail]

SRDoll lv15 also

[unique wagon]

We are talking about Team 1 duh

[swift mango]

The dude certainly doesn't need to beat it with his roster

[unique wagon]

Ure missing the point

[coarse lake]

just do the bscar setup against emi so you save jackal against their scarlet team

[strange quail]

We was trying to beat that team with a 4-5RL team

[unique wagon]

Agent and I were literally discussing Team 1 matchups and scenarios and u budge in without knowing what we have been talking about

[swift mango]

Well, you need to @worthy knoll for that

[coarse lake]

if he runs merry teams he loses 100%

willing to bet low invest on those key units

[swift mango]

Merry can build low invesy stall comp as well. It's his specialty

[coarse lake]

prob cp diff too

just run a 4rl blanc team there already, then do a fast team against their scar

it's not that complicated, just take someone's advice and go with it

[unique wagon]

Would be funny if Emilia got perfect timing and shoot missile that lands 0.000001s after SBS loses indom, and his SBS shoots Emilia 0.00000001s before she loses indom. But shudnt happen at 4 RL.

[coarse lake]

not like we're gonna suddenly find a setup that is 100% guaranteed-win-willing-to-bet-1mil-that-it-works if we keep discussing

[swift mango]

Well, I will try to

Rumani+Blanc+Biscuit+Cindy+Crown it if you wanted some science.

[strange quail]

Sorry but the BScar setup has lower CP, I think it have some penalties

[coarse lake]

ok yeah don't run that then

well

no you're in range

[unique wagon]

Tho I think I know why, cus my SBS had ELE back then and she was strong **then I removed it for ATK and never felt she was good anymore **

[coarse lake]

up to you, whether you trust in bscar or scar

prob find a setup you're confident can win against their scar

[unique wagon]

Penality is at 520ish

[coarse lake]

using a sg sub dps that you can afford to have die prob works fine

as long as you kill scar before they b1

[unique wagon]

No penalty there

[strange quail]

Okay So if I run this team for T3, T2 will be ?

[coarse lake]

or just fast cindy, prob need jackal

jackal + cindy + burst gen of some sort probably

just don't put cindy in p1 p2 and you'll be fine

[swift mango]

So you are not wanting to only beat the dude but wanting to beat him 3/3 too?

[strange quail]

No no

[swift mango]

[strange quail]

I abandonded T1

[coarse lake]

the 4-5rl is against emi

[swift mango]

Bruh.

Then the team I suggested cope with his team 2 that was already winning would do.

[unique wagon]

Noah would cook that team 1 but u dont have Noah so

[strange quail]

I can also Treasure Noise for the guarantee win tho

But will be running low on Treasure mats afterwards

[coarse lake]

just run this cindy team

[unique wagon]

Hmmm i wonder if this will win T1

[strange quail]

okay here we go

[coarse lake]

if emi is strong enough, yeah

[livid marsh]

@quick lake how rapi ree hood for pvp. I got her at 94% ele

[swift mango]

This team 2 isn't even 3RL and having zero protection. It would lose to almost ever single decent team in existence.

[unique wagon]

Sustain killer.

[swift mango]

You don't even need 2rl Cindy. 3RL Cindy would he fine

[unique wagon]

Typically good against Noah Biscu and Blanc Biscu for slow comps.

[livid marsh]

What emi skill need to build for pvp?

[swift mango]

You don't even need to burst with Cindy for the hat matter

[coarse lake]

4/7/7 minimum

[unique wagon]

She nerfs ur burst gen which is why its good occasionally.

[quick lake]

She’s alright. Not the best in pvp but we can make her work if u want too. Only viable team now is Blanc Rapipi Biscuit

[strange quail]

Okay I won, but when I try to record it, I accidentally pressed to go out instead

Thank everyone

[coarse lake]

it's fine, we know what happened anyway

[unique wagon]

PvP is not always about being fast.

Idk why people say 4 RL = auto lose

[swift mango]

Because 3rl scarlet wipe exist

[quick lake]

4RL defence is a lose

[unique wagon]

Only a problem on defense

[coarse lake]

4rl is a lose bc when ppl have a 4rl team without purposefully doing it with the intention of making a 4rl team, it usually sucks

[swift mango]

And only defense team matters. When you bracket even a bit sweaty

[strange quail]

Chill guys, once again thank all of you for helping me

[coarse lake]

so it ends up that 95% of 4rl teams you find are trash and lose most matchups anyway

[unique wagon]

Defense never matters cus u lose anyways

[coarse lake]

defense matters so you don't lose to too many

[unique wagon]

Where is the recording

[coarse lake]

it's only once you have a stable position that it doesn't matter

[quick lake]

I got hit from rank 1 to 9

[strange quail]

[swift mango]

I can beat everyone in my bracket, even the +75 lv gap whale on attack but it doesn't matter at all on my placement when other guys can beat my defense.

[quick lake]

sweaty gemmers

[unique wagon]

Using Tia as buffer + 0.5 RL delayer is progamer move

Hang on SBS probably died anyways so it didnt buff her but at least it delayed

[quick lake]

I swear they group sweaty pvp-ers in the same bracket

[swift mango]

You bracket is just not that sweaty. 1-2 sweaty guy doesn't count. Try 4 above.

[unique wagon]

Damn 4.5 RL SBS

[strange quail]

Yea I think I once heard people saying that they group people with similar PvP activities in the same group no ?

[unique wagon]

No

[livid marsh]

I stuck at challenger 8

[quick lake]

Maybe I should stay at rank 7-9

[swift mango]

[young folio]

Im constantly the 4th rank person for like a year no matter what reset does. The 1-3 people are +40 sync higher than me, so thats rough... and the 5+ range are too weak to attack me.

[coarse lake]

I've forgotten the last time I had a bracket where the top 3 weren't in their little bubble 99.9% of the time

[unique wagon]

Always has been

[quick lake]

I showed too many of my good teams. My entire bracket fcking copying them zzz

[coarse lake]

like the divide between top 3 and everyone else is huge, not in cp, but in cooking

the few rare times I've been dropped below I've seen teams that make me want to throw up

as long as you don't lose to those folks your def is good enough

if you're losing to those teams then you need a better def

[quick lake]

Nowadays attacking is way easier.
Almost everyone in my bracket has THelm

[swift mango]

People doesn't need to build good def in arena to be sweaty when attack you.

[loud sonnet]

Finally my def is holding for now

[strange quail]

Okay one more favor, can you guys helped me cooked a new defense team too ? I think my CP padding team no longer worked anymore

[coarse lake]

they need good def to stay in challenger

[quick lake]

That dude is just testing CA teams at that point

[coarse lake]

and they do, bc the ppl below them are even worse, you won't find many ppl really good at cooking atk but with trash def

[swift mango]

They only need better def than the one below them.

[coarse lake]

yes, that's what a good def means

[loud sonnet]

Must be testing my noah emi rh comp

[swift mango]

Not 2-3 x 2rl teams

[coarse lake]

if they know how to cook atk and beat me, they would improve their def team accordingly in order to maybe have a chance to keep my spot

[coarse lake]

bro your bracket is messed up if you got anyone lower than c5 using even 2 2rl teams

I'm fairly sure there are at least 3 ppl in top 10 challenger in my bracket with teams slower than 3rl, no, not the good ones, or else they wouldn't be bottom challenger

[unique wagon]

What's that comp specifically

[swift mango]

Yeah, no one having more than 1 2RL team in my bracket lol

[coarse lake]

prob more like 5 to be honest

[unique wagon]

I MEAN WHATS THE PURPOSE OF ME SETTING UP DEFENSE WHEN ALL MY COMPS ARE ≤84.6% OF THEIR AVERAGE CP

[livid marsh]

What your emi skill build?

[loud sonnet]

Noah emi rh biscuit lap+

[swift mango]

I tried 2 x 2RL team for def before, even got beaten down easier.

[coarse lake]

you can be as fast as you want, but without actual good bursts being used, eh

[swift mango]

I wish I had Noah for the 3rd team

[unique wagon]

Ah

[coarse lake]

we got enough gen for comfy 2 2rl, but we don't have the supporting units yet, esp not for 3 teams

[unique wagon]

I rmb beating that comp with Blanc Emi Biscuit and Blanc SAnis Biscuit

[loud sonnet]

Im so tempted to use SR doll on helm to get her treasure

[unique wagon]

Wdym tempted

[coarse lake]

I used to beat noah biscuit emis with same speed blanc emi

[swift mango]

Do it. Don't be stingy like Eon

[unique wagon]

I dont have laplacetr and I hate myself

[swift mango]

[coarse lake]

what are you accusing me of

bruh I'm on the verge of buying the 100 pack just to maybe get max doll helm

[loud sonnet]

I wanna put it now instead of waiting for blue doll for cheap upgrade

[coarse lake]

the only units I'm stingy on are super niche units smh

[unique wagon]

Whats ur other 2 comps

[unique wagon]

Like Nero Moran helm Rapunzel mana comp?

[strange quail]

Once Helm got her 8000% burst, she will open some new team comps rights ? Will she replace Rosa ?

[coarse lake]

yes

[unique wagon]

[swift mango]

I remember you keep saying Helm won't matter few days ago.

[coarse lake]

? that's prob meaning she won't suddenly making your teams much stronger or something

[unique wagon]

Good long term investments

[loud sonnet]

Scar blanc rossana anis jack
Noise centi cindy alice rumani

[coarse lake]

and yeah she won't, making a single team go faster, if even that

[unique wagon]

just need 10 10 10 nero and 10 10 10 moran surely very cheap

[coarse lake]

moran is a maybe, nero is a no

[unique wagon]

Nero good tho 😦

[coarse lake]

I'll have to actually find use for such units in champ arena before I build, no use in sp rn

[swift mango]

Another merry fan.

[unique wagon]

Yeah nah Rosanna carrying that

[unique wagon]

Hang on whats Alice doing there

[loud sonnet]

Cp pad i guess

[coarse lake]

undefended cindy teams need to be 2rl to have a chance

[unique wagon]

Oh is that why u want HelmTr

[loud sonnet]

Ye

[unique wagon]

Do treasure skills boost cp? Not doll

[coarse lake]

don't think so?

[unique wagon]

Good comps

Although I wish I had built Rosanna or LaplaceTr

Meh I dont have Anis too

🧱

[coarse lake]

you built nero before rosa?

[loud sonnet]

The cindy comp was recommended by railtracer

[unique wagon]

I never built any pvp unit

[coarse lake]

oh

then wtf you going on about with nero being good smh, you don't even believe in it enough to invest

[unique wagon]

Ok let me be honest I had 20 syncs advantage over my rivals back then. Then I quit the game now im back with 20 sync disadvantage so rip 300 gems per 2 weeks

My mileage factory is dead

So I dont give a f- and try for top 50 raids to compensate it

[loud sonnet]

One more lvl

[rich quail]

A soon-to-be new member of the 10/10/10 Moran Club

Here’s mine

[strange quail]

[rich quail]

Not as strong as yours tho

[unique wagon]

Whale

GOD WHY AM I IN BRACKET WITH 3 MEGALODONS + 3 TRYHARDS

[unique wagon]

Ye its pretty good

Ive been wanting to build Rumani cus of that too

Idk what I will run tho

Maybe:

• Noah Biscu Emil RH something
• Scarlet Blanc something XMaiden Jackal
• Noise Centi Cindy Rumani Helmtr

I dont wanna overinvest in pvp yet will wait for champs

[quick lake]

Yeah same. Ran 2x 2RL instantly lost

[strange quail]

Any good sir ?

[quick lake]

T1: Scar Grave RH xMaiden Jackal (3RL)
T2: Noise Centi Cindy THelm Noir (2.5RL)
T3: Blanc SAnis Biscuit Emi Rumani (3RL)

[strange quail]

Wait Grave works in PvP too ?

[quick lake]

Grave is a good buffer + decent burst gen

If u have her burst lvled she’s pretty good slot

[upper grove]

champ arena when + what rewards

[quick lake]

Gotta be doll rewards

[upper grove]

doll rewards and rocks

[quartz prawn]

how to handle this harrassment rheax
(i had one token)

[quick lake]

That’s actually pretty nice. Just need to have a successful defence once

Pvp is just:

[quartz prawn]

my rapi actually has less hp than my jackal so i cant do that team u mentioned before
i guess we continue this till reshuffle

[quick lake]

The Blanc Rapi RH Jackal team?

[quartz prawn]

yeah. i even equip jackal with vigor, not enough.
i just use ein instead of rapi for now

[upper grove]

my bracket is weird, someone was hitting me yesterday at rank 4 and now he's like 20th

[quick lake]

So the Indom doesnt get applied on Rapi? Rapi having less HP is normal

[quartz prawn]

indom goes on jackal since she has more health than rapi

[quick lake]

I think newer players ~sync200-280 now are pretty whack. All joined in halfanniv/anniv and super active

[quick lake]

Whut. Indom supposed to go on Nikke with least HP

[upper grove]

indom should go on lowest no? so why does jackal get it

[quick lake]

Jackal no OLed maybe

[quartz prawn]

mb i meant the other way.
rapi has 1.3 mil jackal has 1.1 mil or something

[quick lake]

Yeah, Jackal lacking Chest/Helmet OLs

[upper grove]

yeah my bracket started end of Aug and I always see the same names even after shuffle, some in last shuffle were super spenders

[quick lake]

Yeah, looks pretty sweaty

[quick lake]

Yeah. Probably right to replace to Ein

@quartz prawn getting any of the new treasures?

[quartz prawn]

lv 10 r doll on helm so far
I need one more helm dupe or 150ish blue tickets to buy her dupes for lb2 tho

u already treasure helm rite?

[quick lake]

No rush ba

Yep. Most of my bracket has T.Helm as well

[quartz prawn]

sweaty bracket
kinda blessed started late

dont have to deal with emila, thelm, most dont change def either

[upper grove]

not having to deal with Emilia, Thelm or Sanis is actually nice I think

[quick lake]

SAnis probably wont be rerunning anytime soon

Emilia rerun is a big question mark too

[torn briar]

help me build my special arena team guys

[upper grove]

summer rerun is identical to winter rerun, so this year it's new summer units + rosanna and sakura rerun 🧱

[torn briar]

😭

[quick lake]

That's just bad attack teams

[torn briar]

not having noah is painful

[upper grove]

show their teams so the cooks here can help you with attack

[quick lake]

In attacking, u dont really need noah, but it helps definitely

[quick lake]

Is ur Scarlet and Emilia invested?

[torn briar]

yessir

[quick lake]

T1: Scar Grave RH Laplace Jackal (3RL)
T2: Blanc SBS(or SAnis) Biscuit Emilia Rumani (3RL)
T3: Noise Centi Cindy Noir BSoda (3RL)

[torn briar]

YESSIR lets try and burn my 100 gems to see the result

[quick lake]

This are defence teams

[torn briar]

attack team flis 😭

[quick lake]

Please dont use them as attack teams. U can, but not advised

[upper grove]

if your rosanna is invested, why are you using her vs cindy team instead of jackal though?

[loud sonnet]

Jackal lacking chest

[torn briar]

man i dont know that much about arena mechanics so i just replicate team recommendations from youtube 😂

[loud sonnet]

heh

[swift mango]

Or rat them before reset

[quick lake]

T1: Skip
T2: Rumani Centi Biscuit Cindy Emilia
T3: Scar Blanc RH Laplace Jackal

[quick lake]

Reset is 4am from me I have enough of waking at 4am

[upper grove]

4 AM I feel blessed with 9PM

[quick lake]

Your Emilia has s1 lv 10, 8% CS on OLs?

[torn briar]

wait im gonna rank up my emilia skill 1

[quick lake]

as in, as long total is 21% its fine. So either from OL cs rolls and/or s1

[torn briar]

charge speed only 6%

[quick lake]

Aw, thats not really fully invested

Usually we like to have 8% CS from OLs (with s1 maxed), allows Emi to have more burst gen

[upper grove]

reroll gloves, atk roll is also low on that piece

[torn briar]

aight then im gonna roll agaian

[unique wagon]

Lose t1 t2

[torn briar]

try ?

[quick lake]

Should work. Can record as well

so we can see if anything went wrong

[swift mango]

Maybe use team 1 to attack team 2

And vice versa

[torn briar]

🫡 @quick lake

[swift mango]

Yeah t1 lose

[quick lake]

Sweets! Whew

[unreal latch]

pvp mana team?

[late schooner]

How many % of the burst gauge does a fully charged clip RL hit fill by?

[quick lake]

Values all in the burst gen sheet calc

[quick lake]

Possibly Havent really thought about how to slot her in

[late schooner]

So just over 14% at most?

[gaunt sentinel]

welp

[quick lake]

Yes, ~14% per rocket

[late schooner]

If the rocket splashes multiple targets does the burst generation get multiplied?

[quick lake]

The values here already accounts for the splash

Assumes 4 targets: 2 nikkes and 2 covers

[fathom rock]

Pvp bros does mana regen scale with s2 lvl, and is it any good?

[coarse lake]

yes and no

[hollow anchor]

How do u win against this defence team?

[coarse lake]

you use a 2rl noah biscuit setup of some sort

[hollow anchor]

2rl?

[eager mountain]

look thru pings for burst gen explanation and calculator
2rl team is a team that bursts after landing 2nd regular rl shot

[late schooner]

Is there such thing as a 1RL team, and what is an example

[vapid lake]

are ya'll ready for SU to add more whales into ur bracket

[quick lake]

Doubt shuffle will change much

[vapid lake]

Rheax says as six level 600 people enter the bracket

[late schooner]

Wouldn't be surprised if the shuffle mixes old players with maxed Emilias into brand new servers

[quick lake]

#pvp-arena message
Generally not achievable unless opponent puts Cindy in P1

[late schooner]

Does that mean a Cindy team will never be able to burst before an enemy team of 2 or more RL Nikkes

[umbral belfry]

what's the reshuffle for? this is my first time

[quick lake]

They just shuffle the people across brackets. So that u'll fight against new opponents

So ur whale might move into another bracket, dont have to see him/her again

[umbral belfry]

or a few might come in mine

[late schooner]

Whale out, megalodon in

[quick lake]

Putting Cindy in P1 just gives the opponent extra burst gen. Easy solution is to not put in P1. Keep her safe at P3/4/5

[late schooner]

What about P2?

[quick lake]

P2 is not as bad, but still bad.

P1 Cindy gives opponent 1.75x burst gen
P2 Cindy gives opponent 1.25x burst gen
P3/4/5 no extra burst gen

Essentially Cindy's Decoy is considered a "target" and when hit with RL unit splash, provides extra burst gen for the opponent

[swift mango]

This is only apply to opponent RL units, just as disclaimer

Emilia gets 1.5x gen from cindy p1, and 1.166x from Cindy p2-3.

[grand plaza]

When you wake up and see this

Feels gud

[strong hull]

[vapid lake]

3 people quit the game in my bracket that mean +3 whales it joever

[rich quail]

No worries

CA is coming

in 2035

[vapid lake]

I was about to spell out cope in react

[rich quail]

[spiral onyx]

Yes, CHAMPION 2035 ARE

[glacial lion]

3 months already?

[tropic summit]

last was in beginning of december 🤔

[drifting jasper]

Just got done building HelmTR (still need to figure out OL lines + max out fave item) but was hoping to get some advice on some revised SP Defence teams please. Full roster is here. I probably have enough mats to invest one other Nikke to around OL3+Skills 7 as well, if there are any in particular that would be good. Cheers!

[quick lake]

Investment lv for Rosanna and Emilia?

[drifting jasper]

Ros: 10/10/10, OL5, SR+15, +50% Atk lines. Emi: 10/10/10. OL5, SR+15, 10% CS lines, 12% atk lines.

[loud sonnet]

[quick lake]

Wow thats a crazy Rosanna

[drifting jasper]

yea 😄

Got lucky on the OL lines

[thorn dock]

wow helm with treasure in pvp is a beast

[quick lake]

U probably know what u’re doing so some teams to consider

Can try:
Scarlet Laplace Naga(or Mari/Grave) Rosanna Jackal (3RL)
Blanc Emilia RH Biscuit THelm (2.5RL)
Noah Centi Cindy Noise Rumani (3RL)

[drifting jasper]

Hehe, not sure about knowing what I'm doing. I'm not great at team building tbh Thanks for the suggestions though, I shall give them a try

[strong hull]

Rex boy

I need ur 3 defs

[quick lake]

U need cooks?

[umbral crown]

I need food

https://tenor.com/view/kanna-kamui-anime-kobayashi-san-chi-eating-gif-16879801

[quick lake]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-archive-blue-archive-chise-chise-blue-archive-chise-rumi-blue-archive-rumi-chise-gif-12161721200695223110

[thorn dock]

beating high deficit with helm

[strong hull]

Actually nvm

[quick lake]

U wanna see the defence that im running now?

[strong hull]

I dont have scarlet maybe no

Rail chan one is doing good now

[quick lake]

BSodaaaa lets goo

[swift mango]

Be careful when you do Scarlet+Jackal team with more than 2 attacker though. Make sure your Scarlet is linked.

[unique wagon]

U dont need OL lines on HelmTr dont bother

[bleak shale]

but i need the cp

[unique wagon]

She is Asuka level expensive

[quick lake]

My 17% cs

[swift mango]

CS, and CP pad.

[unique wagon]

In fact I advise not rerolling Drake and Helm OL

[swift mango]

CS and CP pad

[unique wagon]

There will be better units that will eat more rocks and deserve ur rocks more

[quick lake]

4ele 4atk 4cs maybe mix a ammo somewhere

[unique wagon]

Just saying we dont have pilgrim water right now

[swift mango]

CS and CP pad

[quick lake]

4atk 3ele 1ammo 4cs for pvp

[bleak shale]

i suspect my helm may be rolled ele dmg in the near future

[unique wagon]

Lilith water DPS soon

[bleak shale]

not for pvp

ya ill roll her AND helm

[swift mango]

I'm ignore everything for next month just to reroll on Anis and Jackal until 3 CS lines...

[quick lake]

Regular Anis?

[swift mango]

Yes

[unique wagon]

Emotional support Cindy

[unique wagon]

What? Patch notes alr out?

[swift mango]

Really need the 2.5-2.6RL boost right now

[loud sonnet]

Ye

[vapid lake]

No i photoshopped that image

[loud sonnet]

Hope Marchon is good

[swift mango]

Anyone hoping Anchor or Mast being good for Arena?

I hope not, because no resource to build.

[quick lake]

I rather not. I would like to save

[loud sonnet]

Whishlist

[thorn dock]

the cp is too high anyway

[thorn dock]

Well now that is high deficit

Is there anyway to counter this guys?

[loud sonnet]

Could you try
Blanc.RH.biscuit.helm.jack?

[keen vapor]

Yeah, my synchro is waiting for water Pilgrim

[thorn dock]

not engough damage to deal with their support

[loud sonnet]

Already tried?

[thorn dock]

yeah

[clear wave]

Heya can I ask for pvp comp suggestions? I need 3 teams

[thorn dock]

actually I won the first time with cindy NUKE

[keen vapor]

Kilo not even level 200, is so over

[thorn dock]

but some how lost all

[keen vapor]

There's no jackal you can do one team as much

[swift mango]

The usual question: Is this all of your SSR or there is still more below?

[clear wave]

nope that is all sadly

[keen vapor]

Blanc/Scarlet/ liter/ biscuit/Anis

Noise/Crown/Privaty/noir/pepper
There, you can't do third team

Just auto

[swift mango]

Scarlet is likely just kill herself lol

[keen vapor]

the other players in his bracket are 280 anyways

[clear wave]

yeah always mismatch

[swift mango]

Aim for that top 200 🤔

[keen vapor]

Top 90

[unique wagon]

Emilia

No Emilia? Then Rapipi

No Rapipi then SBS

No SBS? Then 2 RL Scarlet

[thorn dock]

sbs still not enough

[unique wagon]

No Scarlet? Then 5 SGs and try to kill their Noise and Rapu asap

No SGs? Just quit the game

[thorn dock]

rapi rh is might be possible

[keen vapor]

[unique wagon]

Ure sync 400+ u have Emilia dont tell me u skipped

[thorn dock]

dude I run 2 RL cindy and can't nuke them

[unique wagon]

Cindy counters Cindy

Cindy is too slow there

Depends on Burst order rng u let them B1 and B2

[thorn dock]

I was in comma 5 month so no emilia

[unique wagon]

Scarlet is instant if she can kill Rapu and Noise and Noah, u win

[thorn dock]

their team is 4RL

[unique wagon]

Brick

Rapipi is ur best bet then

But u have to match their speed @4 RL or 5 RL

[thorn dock]

only half their health with no support damage

this is where I can nuke them

[thorn dock]

running so slow is not good idea with high deficit

[unique wagon]

If this team works then whats the probleem

[thorn dock]

same team does not

[unique wagon]

Of course? RH is bad

[thorn dock]

the second turn

[unique wagon]

Yep thats what I meant Cindy RNG

[unique wagon]

^

Your RNG sucked pretty much

You won cus Cindy hit Noah first

Feel free to replay if u want

[glad meteor]

Also need to protect biscuit in and dps in p3/4/5

[unique wagon]

But probably also crit rng

Crit + order rng so

[swift mango]

Hmmm...

Scarlet+Blanc+Noir+Liter+Centi

Emma+Crown+Biscuit+Helm+Anis

Noise+Pepper+Marciana+Privaty+Zwei

[unique wagon]

Rapipi might be safe here

[thorn dock]

so how to fix that

[unique wagon]

U cant its rng bro

Ure fighting uphill battle cant expect much

[glad meteor]

How much power is blanc scalter rh biscuit jackal

[thorn dock]

so noah jackal cindy helm biscuit ?

[unique wagon]

Dont think that will fix T2

[glad meteor]

Don’t think it’s enough damage

[thorn dock]

scarlet died before burst

[glad meteor]

Yeah, for rh team mainly

[unique wagon]

That team doesnt have enuf damage

[glad meteor]

P1 or p2 scarlet?

[thorn dock]

p2

[unique wagon]

P2 unsafe for 4 RL at uphill battle

[glad meteor]

if p2 scarlet dies while jackal that’s rough

[thorn dock]

they hit hard ngl

[unique wagon]

You need to kill Noah to win

[fathom rock]

[thorn dock]

that's impossible

[unique wagon]

U did on ur vid

[thorn dock]

the first one yes

[unique wagon]

Your luck peaked here with crit on Noah I assume

Yeah she got CRIT I watched

Well let me tell u the chance of killing her is therefore crittint once

[glad meteor]

Maybe, blanc biscuit scalter rh jackal, hope biscuit dies pre burst, pretty cope though.

[unique wagon]

At 15% critrate, your winrate is there 1 - (0.85×0.85)

You have a 0.2775 chance of winning

[thorn dock]

but some how rapun didn't revive noah

[unique wagon]

Because Noise was alive........

Noise burst was used

[thorn dock]

his rapun is p4 and noise is b5

[unique wagon]

Thats why some peoppe run Rapu P1 and Noise P2 instead lol

[unique wagon]

Bro its mirrored

Ure sync 431 and u dk this

[thorn dock]

it might be but if I run that the cp between will be 87%

[thorn dock]

opps I forgot

[unique wagon]

Imagine RH having less HP than Scalter

[glad meteor]

vigor cube

[glad meteor]

Do you think scarlet shadow can survive in p2, or biscuit will die pre burst?

[unique wagon]

I can guarantee death

[glad meteor]

Team will be 3.5 at minimum

[unique wagon]

Btw does Jackal need doll for damage sharing to work

[glad meteor]

Since Red hood gets double gen when hitting cover

[glad meteor]

I think the unit getting hit needs the doll if I’m not mistaken

[bleak shale]

im pretty sure this

but im sure i can look, just any video with jackal link and see if all 3 numbers r the same

or some1 else can look cuz im lazy atm

[tropic summit]

Rosy is a cute dragon in real life confirmed?

[thorn dock]

Sbs survied but could not finish the work

[glad meteor]

Noise cindy man

So tanky

[thorn dock]

Or I could wait 9 more lv

[unique wagon]

This is why I never trust SBS

I TOLD U THE ANSWER IS RAPIPI

[thorn dock]

440 is another limit break for hp

[glad meteor]

A rapipi believer, could work ele adv against most the team

[bleak shale]

old vid but u can see 4 numbers r exactly the same

[thorn dock]

Might be it

[bleak shale]

from liter eating bullets, quite literally impossible unless only target def/element matters right

since support/atker/defender with diff weps and lb

[unique wagon]

Surely if Rapipi gets Indom u win here

I just used HelmTr for more damage

Cus I feel like more damage = good ig lol

[bleak shale]

more damage for free always = good

[glad meteor]

I killed a biscuit pre burst once with emi and bsoda target skip, lost burst gen and lost the game

[unique wagon]

Disadvantage is an advantage when done right. Kisenix 2025

[unique wagon]

Not always. Like against Rosanna. Sac comps.

Emilia 21% CS brick also exists

[glad meteor]

I’m seeing their team bursting slower is a problem for continuous damage.

[unique wagon]

Thats why 4 RL

[glad meteor]

Yeah

[unique wagon]

Where guy go

Bro left our research undone

[bleak shale]

just have enough damge to wipe everything at the same time

[glad meteor]

wait, Red hood might hit cover and trigger double gen

[bleak shale]

more damage is always good if issue, the more damage just wasnt more enough

[radiant storm]

Wow, didn't know that this team comp would win

[unique wagon]

Oh thats normal comp

Good for rookie too even

Dies to 2 RL stuff tho

[glad meteor]

Their team is more dangerous when noah is linked

[unique wagon]

Guys I found a better Noah Biscu Emilia comp.

Noah Biscu Emilia RH Makima comp.

1. No more SAnis snipes because RH/Makima taunts.
2. Enemy indom? Makima does the job.

[glad meteor]

Makima havers

[unique wagon]

[unique wagon]

Scarlet 2 RL comps.

Is this free feed?

[glad meteor]

I think 2RL rosanna helm isn’t that bad against 2DPS Attacker teams like emi rh

One get’s killed by ros since ele weak and the other gurantees death to helm snipe

[unique wagon]

XMaiden underrated

[radiant storm]

3s burst gen

[rose laurel]

Does Mana's buff affect Emilia CS in a way that reduces the amount of CS needed for 24.7%?

[glad meteor]

Activates when in full burst so no

[rose laurel]

oh, my reading failed, thanks!

[umbral crown]

Yes

[unique wagon]

I WANNA QUIT I CANT GET MY 2ND MAX AMMO BACK ON XMIDDEN :(((((( @bleak shale

[unique wagon]

Ah yes the charge speed asynchroonization

[gaunt cypress]

mast, cindy, ros, mana, centi = 2RL

noah, moran, helm+, lap+, emi = 2RL

jack, scar, blanc, xmaid, rumani = 2RL

[unique wagon]

They are bricked cus Noah has too mucu charge Speed LMAOOOOOO

[radiant storm]

My X Maiden is still not well built due to Ammo

Rerolling sucks

[iron valley]

holy cow, Laplace is jacked even when she's not bursting. this was a 260k (me) vs 270k fight

[worthy knoll]

Why are you sure RH taunts?

In my case its my Emilia who gets hit on that comp if ever Makima taunts

Also if its this is when attacking Noise Noah SAnis teams.. just an RH buffed Emi can't be enough to kill a team with doll invest on her nuke, it'll most likely end with the remaining defender on enemy side or even Noise still alive vs a low hp Makima

[wicked horizon]

Still hoping for feedback on this.

[tropic summit]

you sure you want to burst with laplace on T2?

T3 is fine, T1 has b.soda feeding, might lose against mirror or 2RL (would be lovely to replace her with any non feeding clip SG burst gens like xmaiden or laplace+)

[wicked horizon]

you sure you want to burst with laplace on T2?
Derp, good catch - I'll just shuffle the units around a bit. Swap Laplace and Biscuit perhaps.

[tropic summit]

yeah noah biscuit rapu s.anis laplace+

if biscuit gets killed in p2 due to splash, rapu will revive her anyway
rapu will also make noah proc 2nd time biscuit invulnerability

[wicked horizon]

Well, the extra tiiiny bit of burst gen on T3 from XMaiden actually helps there, I think. That team also has no shotguns, so I'd be more worried about putting feed there.

I guess I could put Soda (or someone else) into T2 and Laplace in T1 (even though that also hurts burst gen).

If the enemy has anything that's not a RL or a SR, or even a full team of RLs, then I think T1 is currently at a speed of 2RL or faster.

Sure, not as fast as another Scarlet team with... more burst gen, but defending's too hard anyways. 😔

[tropic summit]

yes you can't consider all case scenarios, go for the one which seems more likely to be used from the ppl attacking you

if you know you can afford a SG feed on T1, leave it on

[wicked horizon]

I just don't know of something better.
3 RL with LaplaceTr.

I'm sure I could remove her from T2, because it's far too slow for 2.5RL, but has quite a bit of leeway for 3RL, but I'm not sure who better to put there.

[unique wagon]

Noah attracts SAnis's rays

RH shud taunt otherwise ure bricked (as in your Emilia has more atk than rh)

[unique wagon]

Enuf due to follow up ig

Depends tbh

Also crits and shit

[thorn dock]

2h and 23m

[tropic summit]

you need anis to reach that

alternatively, have nikke on 17% CS

either xanne or jackal/rumani work, i'd suggest starting with jackal as you'll have plenty of usage with her in any comp, the 17%CS can add more comps

@lusty gull when you've got the time, if you can add HelmT to the pool, just like lap+

[wicked horizon]

An interesting possibility I didn't consider. Thank you. That'd be 4 above average rolls of CS - not too easy, but I'll think about it. Reality of the situation is that I don't have XAnne anyways, so the minute details will probably change by the time she comes out.

I was actually most dissatisfied with my 2nd team, namely how I feel I could sacrifice a bit of burst speed.

[lusty gull]

already available

[worthy knoll]

My Emi has higher atk but I don't consider it bricked. I like it that my RH is not linked to Jackal whenever I bring 3+ attacker

[unique wagon]

Then u maybe want Makima there

Maybe Cindy also taunts idk

[tropic summit]

oh seems i didn't update, thank you

[swift mango]

Jackal want to be is p5...

ASS could be p2, Rapu will Rev her anyway.

Noise can be normal attack with LapT + Shotgun, provide opponent know what to do to attack.

[unique wagon]

I dont recommend non Blanc Scar comps

Just saying non Blanc Scar comps get demolishes 1 on 1 by 2 RL Cindy

[umbral crown]

Yes but give me a helm skin

[tropic summit]

ikr, gonna be stuck with default helm

[unique wagon]

but like Kosmiu said the greatest enemy is assuming the enemy have the same knowledge as he has

[umbral crown]

The pain

[swift mango]

Maybe I will have helm treasure after next solo raid

[unique wagon]

Try for 2 RL Scar with Blanc (will need Helm)

[wicked horizon]

Why does Jackal want to be P5?

I also don't understand your last line. Could you rephrase that?

[unique wagon]

2 RL Cindy + 2 RL Scar + 3 RL Emilia

Not many has Rosanna built anyways

[wicked horizon]

I hope for it to be 2RL right now against almost all comps.

[unique wagon]

2 RL Xanne gets killed by 2 RL Emilia and Cindy

[umbral crown]

Go max skill

[swift mango]

To get feed from opponent attacking RH and helm.

... There is a chance Noise can be killed by normal attack, ofc enemy need to know that first.

[unique wagon]

At least with Blanc, Scarlet follow up might allow u to win

[swift mango]

When I get skill reset, Rapipi and Helm will have their skill max.

[umbral crown]

Imma hope next shuffle i can get competitive people

[wicked horizon]

I see.
I figured Jackal's burst would be marginally better, so I didn't want to put her last, but I guess that's maybe a fair point.

Who would you suggest I put 1st in the Noise team then?

[umbral crown]

Its sad people do not wanna do some good pvp

Torn when 281?

[swift mango]

Today, my bracket finally has a new challenge.... He came and killed off the 4th guy like I boss and saved me from being attacking by him today.

[umbral crown]

The fun is coming

[tropic summit]

once CA comes and if it happens to be all servers worldwide, we could be duelling

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

wait till he realizes you were an easier target

[umbral crown]

Imagine i fight my whale at the same level

[wicked horizon]

I'll be running Blanc for the time being anyways, but that loses me quite a bit of burst gen, defintely pushing me out of 2RL... I could replace BSoda with Anis to make up for it, but... hmm...

[umbral crown]

Imma win all

[tropic summit]

i wanna fight your nero team

[swift mango]

Nah My def is way better than the top 4-6

[wicked horizon]

End of Valentine's day event.

[umbral crown]

Owo, i have not released nero in my teams yet

[tropic summit]

oi, he's not cooking with the nero waifu @worthy knoll tell him something

[umbral crown]

Its about time, i will have almost 1 year playing and you still not 301

Merry already told me the tricks

[tropic summit]

you guys are gonna be the main cause that thing is gonna spread

[unique wagon]

Wrong HelmTr gen btw but this is sad im forced to use Anis

[umbral crown]

But people are not invesing in units like her

[unique wagon]

Well that Cindy team will get f-ed by Noah anyways

[tropic summit]

where's your emilia with 38% CS

no anis needed then

wonder if there's even a single guy with emilia on 38% CS, probably not even keripo

[swift mango]

[tropic summit]

yeah... thank god

[swift mango]

25+13... Basically Keripo Emi

[unique wagon]

Cant rely on feed for Scar comp btw cus if enemy runs 5 RL, then at most u get 2 feed and at least u get 1 feed. If they use HelmTr, u can only get 1 feed off Jackal.

[tropic summit]

oh wow so he DOES have her on 38%?!

[swift mango]

39%+ even...

[tropic summit]

the man is made of something else

we're but mere mortals in his shadow

[unique wagon]

This shud be 2 RL against all comps

Well if Scarlet at least triggers her counter attack once

No QuaQua

[tropic summit]

then rosanna happened

but yeah the logic stands

[unique wagon]

Just put Jackal P1

Oh wait Scar wont get indom

[tropic summit]

for attack sure

she would as long as jackal is lower max HP, and scarlet hurts herself anyway

[unique wagon]

Higher max HP u mean

[tropic summit]

yeah higher*

then again if we're to consider all possible situations, you'd just hang yourself because it would be just easier

[unique wagon]

Nah I think Jackal will lose more HP than Scar does lmao

Just use Quantum problem solved

[tropic summit]

🤔

[unique wagon]

Done.

Well unless Rosanna wipes first

[tropic summit]

5 quantums need lvl 8 i guess, i wouldn't have it at my synch

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Go lv11

[unique wagon]

I havent seen 2 RL Rosa Helm yet will be scary

[umbral crown]

2 more slots

[tropic summit]

nah, that'd be a waste ppl would just skip it

[umbral crown]

I will go tempura lv7 this month and the rest for quatum

[tropic summit]

lvl 7 tempura nero

damage redution go brrrr

[unique wagon]

Make me comp without Rosanna, Anis, and LaplaceTr

[umbral crown]

Thats a team been thinking, since rosana sometimes can not kill RH, then if fast enough helm with treasure could finish her roff and you win

[swift mango]

Dude was top 8-20 for awhile but somehow finally getting top 7 since yesterday. Now he started to prompt the 2 weakest guys in top 3-6... Maybe he would try to hit my def soon.

I change def everyday anyway so good luck to him.

[umbral crown]

The funny number is 11 in your cubes

[unique wagon]

Does 1 RL land before Rosa or after Rosa

[umbral crown]

Go C1 and keep doing it , it will work

[tropic summit]

you don't have these 3 or because you plan to use them elsewhere?

[unique wagon]

No, I dont plan to build them

[tropic summit]

ohhh reasonable

[unique wagon]

All my pvp is uphill battle

Using Anis = auto lose anyways

[tropic summit]

he'd get tired after 4-5 times i guess

[unique wagon]

Rosanna is cus Im out of tetra gear (Sin OLed my Sugar for raid)

[tropic summit]

i'm using anis since day 1 in my pvp, never removed her

budget and f2p does that to ppl

[swift mango]

Nah hitting C1 once last week cost me 2 hit on another guy later on because I forgot how to beat him and I was sleepy as well...

Not enough brain power for that.

[umbral crown]

Imagine using anis

[unique wagon]

Me told him why ol sugar me sad but he helped me so he deserves more appreciation

[umbral crown]

Blood not brainin uwu

Then go C2

[unique wagon]

I guess im gonna use Sugar in pvp

Well in champs

[shell hazel]

C2 is where the real champions are at

[swift mango]

Well, I need to keep my rat hit to a minimum brain power because it's my sleep time at reset...

[tropic summit]

you've emi right?

[unique wagon]

Yes

[swift mango]

Very low on blood sugar and caffeine...

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

what's her CS%?

[unique wagon]

Slightly below 21%

[umbral crown]

Reset is at my 4 pm

[tropic summit]

aww

[unique wagon]

I tried to fix her CS, it didnt wanna increase so I gave up

I wasted 2 rocks alr

[tropic summit]

2 rocks only oi

bet you get 5 rocks a day anyway

[unique wagon]

Its for raid

[umbral crown]

Go all out for pvp

[unique wagon]

Im not whale

[umbral crown]

But couls be

[unique wagon]

Every fight is uphill
Go whale in pvp

Yes very good advice

[tropic summit]

with emi on 21% you can upgrade cindy to 2.5RL

forgot to replace emi on T3, that'd be a SG clip burst gen

[unique wagon]

Damn 2 Emilia

[tropic summit]

yeah it's a clip SG burst gen, forgot to replace

[umbral crown]

The future is today

[tropic summit]

you can see noir is replaced by emi, 1+1 you put noir on T3 but who am I to judge

[coarse lake]

Ppl really not worried about ppl just running sg and Laplace into p1 noise huh

[tropic summit]

SG need to be elem weakness or can be also non elem weakness?

[umbral crown]

They will use P2 noise

[unique wagon]

I dont need Laplace. Im just gonna run Sugar BSoda

[umbral crown]

All SGs will hit P1 on atk

[unique wagon]

I thought most stable is Noah Noise i guess im wrong

[tropic summit]

i don't have many clip SG built with elem. atk that could be used specifically in a lineup against noise, but i'm speaking for my own synch lvl

let alone without tanking CP

maybe on higher synch where ppl can be very flexible sure

[unique wagon]

How fast is Noah Noise Emilia Maxwell Biscu

[tropic summit]

is emi buffed by just maxwell enough tho? 🤨

[unique wagon]

Wish I built Mana as pseudo Biscu

[umbral crown]

Kinda normal speed 3 RL

[unique wagon]

Can Maxwell B3 oneshot Scar comp tho

[tropic summit]

she has charge time it's not immediate iirc

[unique wagon]

Depends on investment ig

MAN I WISH I HAD OPENED MY MOLDS TO GET MORE COPIES

[tropic summit]

if she's indommed it's gonna be kinda meaningless

[unique wagon]

Wont she still kill Jackal and whoevers linked

And Noah Noise Biscu might outsustain if they are alive after wipe

[coarse lake]

Maxwell no

[tropic summit]

assuming you can survive the post nuke scarlet sure

[unique wagon]

Not enuf damage? What if 4 ELE 4 ATK?

[tropic summit]

charge time btw:

[unique wagon]

Meh probably wont have enuf damage cus my Max is shit anyways

[tropic summit]

might aswell just go helmT at that point, as bonus you get a battery

[coarse lake]

xmaiden is better option

[tropic summit]

multiplier is something else

[unique wagon]

If I had opened my molds and built properly, my Maxwell, if she had 4 ELE, would be the same as dealing 4800% damage to Scarlet++.

[coarse lake]

yeah to an indom scar

[unique wagon]

But it kills the other 2.

[coarse lake]

any half decent dps used against indom scar will kill the other 2

[tropic summit]

maiden is 8 times less it seems

[unique wagon]

Not if Blanc healed them first before Maxwell 4 ELE 4 ATK fires

Its a failsafe if enemy uses Scar to wipe at 2 RL but fails to kill Noise/Biscu/Maxwell

[coarse lake]

then use rh to buff whatever dps you're using, or just rh

if that still doesn't kill you're fighting at deficit

[tropic summit]

what would be a typical xmaiden team against scarlet teams on 2.5RL? 🤔

[unique wagon]

And if enemt doesnt do that, then Maxwell will buff Emilia's damage instead

[unique wagon]

No, cus need Noise for anti wipe

[coarse lake]

what's the full comp

[glad meteor]

If no rh buffer. Noise noah dps cliprl clip rl. Just go 2RL. If p1 pressure may need link

[unique wagon]

Well ig Emilia would still wipe it anyways

Unless magic

[tropic summit]

let's assume this, what would be an xmaiden team?

[tropic summit]

yeah i know about that one, was curious on an xmaiden variant

[umbral crown]

Let x.maiden get a treasure

[glad meteor]

Noise noah xmaiden lap+ flex (need 2RL) so indom doesn’t kick in scar rh

[tropic summit]

she's not strong enough as is, surely

[glad meteor]

Lap+ ensures kill becausw of sub damage

[umbral crown]

15k% atk

[tropic summit]

oh makes sense i can see it

but would still need to waste a noah

[unique wagon]

Since when is this 2.5 RL?

[coarse lake]

oh god I hope anchor is clip (she 100% won't be)

[tropic summit]

CS% is included (small number on bottom)

[coarse lake]

if she somehow is, I'll have someone who's even better than emi at p2 sac

[unique wagon]

Piece of shi-

[glad meteor]

Can use anis centi. But risky

[umbral crown]

A man can always dream

[coarse lake]

none, can't be fast enough to outspeed that

[tropic summit]

aww i figured

[coarse lake]

if you wanna make a slower team that also resists p1 nuke, use unlinked xmaiden

[tropic summit]

was hoping something with a 2RL xmaiden indom

[coarse lake]

your jackal will burst before link dies, it's indom xmaiden vs whatever their xmaiden comp is

[unique wagon]

Noah Noise Biscu HelmTr XMaiden

[glad meteor]

2.5RL indom triggers later than 2rl nuke?

Can use cs on xmaiden team to ensure speed

[tropic summit]

mhm i c, was hoping for something noahless but looks like the alternative is what eon said

[unique wagon]

Hope HelmTr kills both Jackal and RH, and sustain as long as possible with HelmTr's lifesteal

[coarse lake]

way too risky at that point

if indom is in time you insta lose

at that point you just god comp it

[glad meteor]

True

[coarse lake]

or 2rl noah biscuit stall

[tropic summit]

we've had use cases where indom does trigger but won't land in time too, sucks

[glad meteor]

Only in desperate circumstance

[coarse lake]

this is why god comp is always the best way to deal with indom scar, works regardless how fast their scar is, or who they add to the team (unless noise ig)

[unique wagon]

Nero Moran HelmTr Mana Rapunzel frfr

[tropic summit]

it's noahless at least

[coarse lake]

I wouldn't bother with cooking teams to resist xmaiden snipe

if your opponent can cook that up, nothing you do will work aside from cp diffing them

[unique wagon]

Tf is XMaiden snipe

[coarse lake]

2rl xmaiden to try to snipe link before indom

[unique wagon]

Huh

[lone sequoia]

xmaiden/mari/x/centi/jackal?

[unique wagon]

Something like XMaiden Centi HelmTr Anis Jackal?

[tropic summit]

would it be something like this?

[coarse lake]

yeah something like that

[lone sequoia]

or noise/bay in 2RL comp?

[tropic summit]

oh now that's cool

[unique wagon]

Maybe 1.5RL with feed no?

[lone sequoia]

xmaiden snipe only works against blanc comps

[tropic summit]

wow commiting 3 clip RL and helmT tho

[lone sequoia]

against xanne is more tricky

[tropic summit]

it also requires xmaiden to be linked

[unique wagon]

Not enuf damn

[lone sequoia]

yeah but is easy in a support/defender comp

or just use noise as b1

[tropic summit]

with atk% OLs i guess?

[lone sequoia]

the damage is already high, only need good burst lvl

[tropic summit]

hmm

[lone sequoia]

jackal add x% and mari attack damage

or noise for more hp(stats)

[unique wagon]

Jackal buffs Maiden?

[lone sequoia]

yep

xmaiden*

[unique wagon]

No wonder my Maiden kills Noah Biscu comp solo

[coarse lake]

if using helm+, just burst with her instead

[lone sequoia]

but you still need enemy p1 linked

[coarse lake]

and replace maiden with higher gen or something

[lone sequoia]

helm is easier since she target highest atk

[tropic summit]

oh this one looks fun too

no CS% lines needed even 🤔

[coarse lake]

problem with maiden is if she fails to snipe in time, you basically auto lose

[lone sequoia]

blanc feed is bad against scarlet/jackal

[coarse lake]

so, eh, the team doesn't need that much sustain

[tropic summit]

aww right, i guess you don't want that afterall

[lone sequoia]

you can use blanc, but depends in how fast is your RL

[tropic summit]

if i had xanne...

[lone sequoia]

xanne doesnt buff xmaiden

[tropic summit]

yeah just to avoid feed and still have 2RL

[lone sequoia]

mari is the pick but i pref noise/bay against scarlet xanne if i go for snipe

[tropic summit]

but then again if xmaiden doesn't kill it's meaningless 🤔

[lone sequoia]

or just... SG rosanna...

[tropic summit]

bay in p2?

or needs to be at least p3?

(for cover to not be broken)

[lone sequoia]

not a problem

[unique wagon]

Taunter:

[lone sequoia]

you just have to tank unbuffed scarlet nuke

[bleak shale]

if i remember right multiplier is depending on ur base charge

[tropic summit]

how's this one?

[bleak shale]

like doll isnt straight charge dmg

its base charge dmg (250/350) * multiplier

[unique wagon]

Doll is multiplier to charge damage

Its base?

[lone sequoia]

not enough damage if you face a good scarlet/jackal/rh +xanne unless you have burst lv10 and good OL or jackal skills

[tropic summit]

oh alrighty, what would you replace?

[bleak shale]

if im not mistaken yes

[unique wagon]

He wanted to use Mari

[lone sequoia]

like, you can kill scarlet/rh but if enemy jackal have core they still can start the burst chain

[bleak shale]

can u check if u have 1?

[tropic summit]

oof mari... another grey nikke in my roster

[unique wagon]

No like idk if it affects additional charge damage on top of base