pvp-arena

[graceful grotto]

i hate that one

especially when even after killing it, it still has those small spawn jogging around

now i'm stuck in tower because of it llol

what's your deficit now btw

[lunar dirge]

i'm at 24-34 rn

at this one is cleared at 25% only

so i'm waiting

the lower clears are at 580k

[swift mango]

Try 3 buff Scarlet. Bring team to Arena for scarlet to wipe. 😶

[lunar dirge]

vs 820k stage

[lunar dirge]

how can you buff if you're silenced

[graceful grotto]

i'm at nihilister, 27% deficit atm, if i use a more optimal team (rapipi as b3 instead of b1 and swap out sbs), then 29% deficit 😦

[swift mango]

Just wipe them before they silence.

[graceful grotto]

cant win for days lol

[swift mango]

🎉

[lunar dirge]

scarlet doesn't offer as much damage as others,and gl dealing with stage that requires 2+bursts

[strong hull]

@swift mango var check 3 defs

Not my box tho

[graceful grotto]

where ur box

[strong hull]

Im lazy to build for them

[graceful grotto]

[covert lintel]

i want to but that bronchus get in my way

[swift mango]

@keen vapor

Do your job.

[strong hull]

[covert lintel]

i need to fight 5 bronchus with 1 full burst

[graceful grotto]

kinda rough ngl

no blanc, no biscuit

[swift mango]

How was my def for your fare?

[strong hull]

Not good

5050

[swift mango]

So it could def some? I guess better than jothing

[strong hull]

Cant stand c10

Yea but fine

[strong hull]

Mega brick

Just give him quick 3 defs

[swift mango]

Laplace treasure or not?

[strong hull]

No

[covert lintel]

rosanna and mana👍

[quick lake]

Time to learn to cook

[strong hull]

Im learning to cook rn lol

[graceful grotto]

Noah-SBS-Liter-Noir-Jackal

Rumani-Centi-Cinderella-Rapunzel-Tia

Grave-S.Anis-Red Hood-Anis-Xmaiden

[rich quail]

Cookig

[swift mango]

Is this really all the SSR he has?

[graceful grotto]

maybe can slot mana in somewhere but idk her best team atm

[strong hull]

Yes

[swift mango]

For someone with S.Anis this box is too small...

[quick lake]

Ask them Horizontal mode!

[graceful grotto]

based on his synchro, he prolly start on s.anis rerun event

since he has no s.sakura or s.rosaane too

[strong hull]

I look through the box my mood down like bitcoin losing price

[graceful grotto]

wdym btc gained back last week

[strong hull]

Guess what they gonna down

[unreal latch]

can some1 cook me sp arena def team with helm treasure

got all pvp relevant nikke

[swift mango]

[quick lake]

What a cook

[strong hull]

Like very suffering

[swift mango]

Merry my idol

[strong hull]

[strong hull]

I can now

Rest in peace

[tropic summit]

rotating rookie teams over and over is proving effective

dude is struggling a lot against 2.5RL

[tropic summit]

assuming you've all of the following nikke decently built, you can aim for this:

that's another one that has a dedicated seat in hell

[pseudo atlas]

im always net positive on gems with these brackets

[quick lake]

Funny whales spending gems

[covert lintel]

whale cooking

[loud sonnet]

Reminds me of someone on my bracket

[tropic summit]

ultra CP padded teams

[loud sonnet]

I really need a new team to swap with my current def but i cant think of any

[tropic summit]

you wanna share your box? maybe we can come up with something you didn't yet? 🤔

[loud sonnet]

My current was
T1 Scar.blanc.RH.emi.jack
T2 Noah.centi.rumani.cindi.lap+
T3 Auto/moran biscuit anis s.anis drake

Then sometimes swap RH with rossana but that was already busted

[covert lintel]

no noise

i think it's better using noise than rumani

[tropic summit]

hmm, is laplace treasured? and how much atk% OL lines does rosanna have?

[loud sonnet]

P1 noah then p5 noise?

[loud sonnet]

33% atk and yes treasured lap

[tropic summit]

oh perfect

[loud sonnet]

SR 5 on rossana btw

I don't feel like going for SR15

[quick lake]

Diff teams to consider:
Blanc Emi RH Biscuit
Scarlet Blanc Rosanna Emilia Jackal
Moran Rumani Bay Centi Cindy
Blanc Rapi Biscuit Emilia Rumani
Noise Scarlet Noah Rapun/Centi Jackal

[tropic summit]

last question, does emi have 21%?

[covert lintel]

p2 or p5 is fine as long as she stay away from cindy

[loud sonnet]

Yep

She has 33% cs but no ammo

[tropic summit]

that's fine

[tropic summit]

3 variants you could consider

once you get helmT there's even more

[strong hull]

Welp at least your team help me def against dia 1 drop

Gjob bloodkun

[loud sonnet]

ill try those teams thx

[tropic summit]

just throwing more ideas to the pot, you might've already tried some

[keen vapor]

You don't invest smh

[keen vapor]

Yes

[strong hull]

wdym

Full OL jackal + Noah

Mega invest

[loud sonnet]

F

[keen vapor]

Where doll :pepeh:

[loud sonnet]

Xmaiden doesn't OL yet and missing gloves part

[keen vapor]

I did

[strong hull]

Ooof

Lv 5 N ig enough

[keen vapor]

no

[graceful grotto]

oh wow u full OL both of them?

time to OL noise next let's gooo

[strong hull]

Mega malding

[graceful grotto]

btw

i went and pull mana lmao

prolly gonna start lvl-ing her up for sbs

auto kraken malding

[strong hull]

[graceful grotto]

my alice x sbs did 2b, mana 0 skillup 0 OL x sbs did 1.7 b

good potential

[strong hull]

Im just bing chilling tho

[graceful grotto]

did u put mana in ur pvp team?

my defense be leaking nowadays lol

[strong hull]

Nope

Busy with bunch of pve rn

[hexed zephyr]

Is there any way to avoid this or just pure rng? Ofc I want the immortality to go on sbs but I feel in any harder fight where I need it, it almost never happens and jackal keeps getting it (liter I put for power/incase jackal dies)

[lunar dirge]

your sbs must have the lowest hp between your linked units

[hexed zephyr]

Ya but that’s just up to rng right? Or like would moving jackal to center and swinging with liter help?

[lunar dirge]

nope

i literally said how to do it

[hexed zephyr]

Oh I thought it meant lowest at the time they ult

[lunar dirge]

seems like either 1.your sbs dies before getting indom 2.your sbs has highest hp in the link

[hexed zephyr]

It’s base hp?

[lunar dirge]

lowest hp at the current moment

but link spreads it

equally,that's why base hp is so important

[leaden canyon]

btw which website is this from. it looks better than the spread sheet version.

[quick lake]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/
Its in the pins!

Easy team building on mobile

[hexed zephyr]

Huh, ya sbs is highest base hp rn. I hadn’t OLed my pvp units yet but I guess that will help with this problem, right?

[lunar dirge]

if the difference is small enough,yes it should,also vigor cube might help

[lunar dirge]

deck web

almost sounded like clash royale type shit

[umbral crown]

[hexed zephyr]

I got vigor on blanc. Centi and jackal have quantum atm

[hollow pelican]

Been trying to to beat this team in Rookie Arena all day. 9x outta 10 they burst before I can and I'm dead. Best I've done was with SBS killing everyone but Scarlett who lived due to Blanc. Is there some obvious counter to this?

[lunar dirge]

35 rocks so far to get atk or ele line on line on a single piece for rrh so far

[keen vapor]

Doll them

[hexed zephyr]

Pretty sure they do but just base Lv blue dolls atm lol

[keen vapor]

What team have you used?

[keen vapor]

Phase 15

[hexed zephyr]

Give me the materials to lv up and then sure

[hollow pelican]

@keen vapor Noise, Jackle, SBS, Drake, Rapunzel was the team that got me the furthest

Sorry no drake ment Noah

[keen vapor]

Have you tried biscuit instead of jackal?

Noah/noise/biscuit/SBS/Rapunzel

[hollow pelican]

No I havent but Ican give it a go. Thought she was good just to keep a single defender alive a lil longer.

[swift mango]

At least you aren't rolling for something totally useless outside of CP pad.

[swift mango]

Phase 15 your Mica!

[keen vapor]

[leaden canyon]

Thank you! also sad news the defense didn't work

I think my xanne is too low cp

shes like 145k

shes overloaded but just really low cp

[quick lake]

Oh man

[swift mango]

Do you have XMaiden? Do you have Cindy? Do you have LaplaceT? Do you have Rossana? Do you have Scarlet? There are tons of options.

Do you even have Rapipi in the current banner?

If you have her, try

Rapipi+Noah+Centi+Anis/XMaiden/LaplaceT/Rumani+Jackal

[swift mango]

Equip Jackal with Vigor

[quick lake]

Can probably try this. Hopefully the CP is higher

[leaden canyon]

its funny he just attacked the same defense again and then lost

so some type of rng is happening

[leaden canyon]

emilia in there twice

[tropic summit]

do this: (if 3RL)

if no noah, your alternative is bay

else, your best bet is a 2RL cindy nuke

2RL version of SBS if your opponent scarlet+jackal+centi is 2.5RL:

[keen vapor]

Nah, I'd Rumani

[tropic summit]

rumani + cindy you mean?

[keen vapor]

Rumani SBS

[tropic summit]

oh i guess, she does get some HP+% and taunt 🤔

good alternative to those lacking noise

[upper grove]

does the team comp matter if I can cp gap by 50%?

[keen vapor]

Nvm, it just failed and I don't know why bc I got stuck in loading screen

[bleak shale]

Time to report with the bell

[quick lake]

Oops, can replace T2 Emi with Noir

[keen vapor]

Another day in C6

[tropic summit]

oh you too, i just launched my match vs ch1 too, won but i've no clue if it all went as i expected

bug sucks

[tropic summit]

what are your options of gaining ch5 or ch4 then aiming for ch2 instead of ch3? is it possible?

[keen vapor]

I can defeat Hero, but he defeats me back (and C5 as well)

[tropic summit]

damn

[keen vapor]

Tbh, I'll get sniped no matter what now

[cobalt token]

Jesus christ, this guy really hates me--

[keen vapor]

If my defense could still hold against Hero then it will be more workable but

[upper grove]

gemming

[keen vapor]

I need to improve defense still

[tropic summit]

all of that for rank 11 instead of just ch10

[cobalt token]

I swear bro, this guy strikes until that 1% works

[keen vapor]

Where's super success I need helm treasure

[cobalt token]

Omfg he keeps going-- The guy literally spend around 2300gems in the last two hours--

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[cobalt token]

I don't know what did i do--

[tropic summit]

dude is just tilted

[cobalt token]

Omg 💀

It takes him 1000gems to beat me, and for me just once--

[tropic summit]

i don't think he's tilted on you specifically but just the game

some gamblers aren't really sane in the head

[cobalt token]

That 1% must be crazy

[tropic summit]

yeah a very thin thread from crazy

[cobalt token]

And truth is, i don't even have Scarlet--

[tropic summit]

and more of stubborn perhaps

[cobalt token]

I hope the guy is not using credit card for this

[tropic summit]

he'll learn a lesson from today

if he doesn't, you can't do anything about that either

[cobalt token]

At least is not my problem, but dayum

[bleak shale]

The last time some1 did that to me they quit the next season

[cobalt token]

It took long for they to quit?

[bleak shale]

Idk they spent a ton one season in rookie

I still got first and then they poofed

[cobalt token]

In rookie!?

[bleak shale]

Yep

[cobalt token]

That's... crazy

This is getting ridiculous--

The thing is, there is literally two guys weaker than me in Diamond 1

[upper grove]

you won basically

[bleak shale]

Did u kick his dog or smth

[upper grove]

DIO

[cobalt token]

But he refuses--

[cobalt token]

Idk man, i was vibing here at the shop music then this guy showed up

I'm glad Nikke didn't developed DMs yet--

[tropic summit]

just don't check his bio i guess, cuz he could post something there

[cobalt token]

Really???

[tropic summit]

either way you could claim rank 12 then you can equally chill as before, rewards are the same

sometimes it's better to avoid mentally ill lads

[cobalt token]

I don't think that's a good idea

The guy barely manages me, even tho his sync is 450 and mine is 426

So if i claim 12, someone shots him down and then the process repeats again

Please my fellow

Pray that this soul filled with hatred stops 🙏

My man is losing gems like hair strings while working in McDonalds--

[upper grove]

just wait until he wants to add you to friendlist to snipe

[cobalt token]

Seriously!? That ever happened??

I thought this was some mobile game, not valorant or league of legends

[upper grove]

yeah someone tried to add me to check my online times, dude was C4 or sth and tried to get my C1 spot instead of hitting C2/C3

[cobalt token]

To think people would go that far..

[upper grove]

nowadys he just hits me once per season, loses and gives up

[cobalt token]

I hope this guy gives up

I mean, he has much nicer sync level and units, but he still loses

[upper grove]

seriously, in my old bracket I had 1 guy with Korean client who sniped me 2mins before reset

[tropic summit]

they can still add you to blocklist, that allows snipe without you even knowing

literally stalking

[upper grove]

which is like 5 AM Korea time

[upper grove]

oh didn't know that was possible

[tropic summit]

aye

[cobalt token]

Holy f#ck

[tropic summit]

couldn't have said it better

[bleak shale]

Imagine having to add some1 to snipe

Weak

[tropic summit]

there used to be a time

[upper grove]

they just wanted to send a message I guess

[cobalt token]

I don't understand why this guy doesn't change strategy and keeps on chasing that 1% success ratio

Against my 99%

[cobalt token]

[bleak shale]

Y r they in notepads

And not excel with proper time frames

Level up ur rat game

[cobalt token]

LADS

[tropic summit]

should've seen that comeback

[bleak shale]

People think they're playing a booty game and suddenly I have their work sleep and gym schedules

[cobalt token]

He gave up?! Please tell me!!

[tropic summit]

the kind of people this game creates, truly a piece of art

[upper grove]

report back tomorrow

[tropic summit]

he gone take a shower, he'll be back soon

[cobalt token]

My guy in the Scarlet pfp spend 4000 gems on me

And i only spend 800

[upper grove]

this is cursed

[cobalt token]

f#ck

I think the guy is targetting me because i have Cinderella as pfp

Which is crazy because this already happened

[bleak shale]

Bold of you to assume nikke players shower

[cobalt token]

And even if he targeted me because of Cindy--

I'm scarletless af--

[tropic summit]

you mean they don't shower once a year?

[cobalt token]

I want to believe--

[tender eagle]

What's a shower?

[cobalt token]

Holy water chamber--

[bleak shale]

Idk I wouldn't be surprised if people had buckets in their room

[cobalt token]

That's just the minimum they have--

[glad meteor]

fellow scarletless

Rough out here

[tropic summit]

it's rougher on those without RH

@umbral crown

[orchid birch]

roughest on me

[keen vapor]

Me when I make an alt

[keen vapor]

He reported you for cheating

[bleak shale]

Report him back

[cobalt token]

Wait--

[tropic summit]

updates from the scene?

[cobalt token]

It seems he gave up but--

If he reports me, i could get banned for literally doing nothing?

[wise horizon]

stuck in Rookie where I have to keep fighting these two but i think I can only use the team at the top as I dont have noah

[tropic summit]

next you hear about someone jumping from a window after playing a gacha game

[tropic summit]

2RL cindy possible?

[cobalt token]

Oh man, i hope the guy went to fight those Diamonds 2

[wise horizon]

never tried

[tropic summit]

it's gonna depend whether she's fast enough to prevent blanc from proccing on scarlet or at least have her procc wrongly on emi

[upper grove]

I don't think a single report does anything tbh

[cobalt token]

I just read his status on his profile

[upper grove]

I just rerolled dispatch without checking how many gems I used, ended up using 500

[tropic summit]

eh what was it?

the window wasn't high enough and survived?

[upper grove]

Gotta get those kits and RL dolls

[cobalt token]

[tropic summit]

ok this dude is clearly onto you

[cobalt token]

Man, he gave up and put this on his pfp

[wise horizon]

RNG >.<

[cedar orbit]

what if he just likes the Metal Gear franchise

[vapid lake]

Or its an mgs meme

[cobalt token]

Why is this happending to me

[vapid lake]

[tropic summit]

what are the odds

[wise horizon]

rumani, centi, cinderella, emilia, pepper?

[tropic summit]

uh let's see

[tropic summit]

yeah looks about right

[cobalt token]

Should i throw salt on the wound and put something on my status as well?

"That one percent didn't work huh"

[upper grove]

Do it. Then check if he changes as well

[tropic summit]

experience has told me that dealing with mentally ill or weirdos never turns out well, up to you

[upper grove]

Mental warfare

[cobalt token]

Oh man, i'll take your advise because the guy is going bankrupt if he comes at me again

[keen vapor]

0 rocks

[tropic summit]

your best bet is trying to ignore them or getting into challanger ranks so he can't hit you anymore

[cobalt token]

F#ck, i'm F2P and getting in challenger is quite hard for me

[tropic summit]

aww

[onyx scaffold]

yes. therefore u should let him win

[tropic summit]

tomorrow 5 rocks then, it should even out? right?

[onyx scaffold]

that guy is me

[cobalt token]

Aww man, that's sucks--

[tropic summit]

you're not mentally ill, can't be you

[cobalt token]

He went for Diamond 2

I guess he is going to chill after this.. right???

[tropic summit]

hurray, you're free

[onyx scaffold]

rebuild spook

[wise horizon]

should work against:
Scarlet, Blanc, RH, Emilia, Jackal
Scarlet, Blanc, RH, Centi, Jackal
?

[onyx scaffold]

hold on. wrong channel

[cobalt token]

*Proceeds to put "U mad bro?" as profile status--

[upper grove]

He wants to bait you or he'll skip past you

[tropic summit]

yeah any scarlet not on 2RL if anything, keep in mind cindy CAN be RNGy

[upper grove]

He's in your head

[tropic summit]

@wise horizon also how did it go with that other match? 3rd option worked? i feel bad for the previous 2 tries

[gaunt cypress]

[cobalt token]

Aww man, i don't know what i did besides listening to the shop music and appreciating the daily gems

[wise horizon]

havent tried yet, will do in a moment

[tropic summit]

sometimes it's things you don't even notice, i've a chinese dude stalking my rookie since 2 months and i've honestly no clue where it started

[gaunt cypress]

sound:0:5

[cobalt token]

Ohh f#ck, i've heard chinese are worst in cases like this

These guys will keep at it or die trying--

[upper grove]

Last bracket I had 2 Koreans only hitting me instead of each other for C2 ans C3, 1st was a leviathan they didn't bother with

Never underestimate how obsessed they can get

[cobalt token]

Let's see how this ends--

[tropic summit]

i see you've decided war on the lad

[cobalt token]

I can do more than that

I mean idk how many he wasted on me

[vapid lake]

good make him pay for intern-kun's paycheck

[spiral cairn]

I cant fully understand it

What these percentages mean

[limber rampart]

can someone help me build 3 team for pvp pls 😢 im about to be kicked out of dia3
no scarlet no biscuit no noah no redhood😢 how can i survive? any chance for me?

[limber patrol]

I need quick help, how to position this team

I want to burst with Liter, she got the second highest atk too

[onyx scaffold]

share teams or get reported

[bleak shale]

Put her in p1 and Noah p5

U can decide if u want rumani p2 or Alice p2

[cobalt token]

Chill, this is PvP related

[glad meteor]

It’s how much of the burst gen meter is filled

[tropic summit]

2RL bursts faster than 2.5RL, followed by 3RL then 3.5RL finally 4RL, anything past 4RL may be deemed to slow to matter anymore, minus situational setups and comps

this covers the topic more in detail: https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[tropic summit]

jackal naga cind rumani alice
moran grave pmaid bsoda centi
xmaiden blanc sbs anis liter

if available:

quantum on jackal, centi, anis
vigor on blanc and anis
any other nikke run higher lvl cube available

build/wishlist: biscuit, noah, scarlet, helm treasure

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

[worthy knoll]

He replies "UghDropTo290k"

[lunar pawn]

what's the pvp meta in rookie these days?

to defend

been running noise noah jackal scarlet centi but I think that's outdated

[unreal latch]

cook me some team 😭

helm treasure

[tropic summit]

2RL cindy, 2.5RL rosanna, 2RL scarlet single buff, 3RL indom emi, 2.5RL indom scarlet, 3RL noah stall, 2RL noah stall

i've had wins on rotating these over and over (minus the emi one because i only can cook it but don't own it)

[lunar pawn]

what's the 2RL cindy one? blanc cindy biscuit jackal xmaiden or smth?

wait no

I need to get rumani with the selector don't I

[tropic summit]

clip RL, clip RL, cindy, clip RL, clip SG

[lunar pawn]

not buffed by anyone?

is that enough vs noah/noise/rapunzel teams?

my cindy is cracked but Idk if she can wipe heh

[tropic summit]

you can buff her with noise, on this variant (it needs quantum)

[tropic summit]

on high sync level probably not, safer choice to go with a buff

[lunar pawn]

mm anis really brings down my cp, lemme check

[tropic summit]

you mean your CP, burst gen she's actually pretty good

[lunar pawn]

yea

not too bad I guess

[tropic summit]

i'd go with this

[lunar pawn]

cheers

[tropic summit]

yep, don't forget quantum and you should be good

if that one starts failing, rotate with the other ones in case

[lunar pawn]

yea they got lvl 7 quantum, except noise w vigor

[tropic summit]

ah you're good then

[lunar pawn]

been a while since I touched pvp, will probably redo my sp teams when my helm is done

but there's like 0 activity in my bracket so Idk how much I'll need it

[tropic summit]

mhm, better safe than sorry, there's gonna be a bracket reshuffle around may

you never know who may get isekaied in your bracket

[naive goblet]

I just got jackal, should I fit her in somewhere?

[lunar pawn]

waiting for that to happen since day 1, my bracket never changes, it's like the root of all brackets

wait

my emi is 21% CS, should I replace anis with her or?

[drifting schooner]

can someone help me with this guy, i tried so many diff combinations, i can beat the first team easy, with anything, but i cannot seem to beat the 2nd or 3rd. i have everybody except OG scarlet

[tropic summit]

doesn't hit 2RL but u can hit 2.5RL, which is still fine for most of the time

[lunar pawn]

mm then better not

[unreal latch]

hm team 3 suffer cp becausei dont ol rapunzel and lap got no treasure, i switch lap to bsoda 🤡

team 1 won

[swift mango]

First time getting top 3% in co.op too bad it's still top 10%.

[tropic summit]

yeah bsoda is also clip SG burst gen, what happened in T3 tho?

[unreal latch]

sbs got blanc indomitable and solo entire team

[tropic summit]

hmm but noah got biscuit passive twice right?

[unreal latch]

maybe

dont rmb 😭

[tropic summit]

hmm would've been nice seeing a vid of it

[unreal latch]

ill record nxt reset, done with 2 daily attempt 😳

[tropic summit]

yeah that'd be nice, although tomorrow you could try this approach instead

[tropic summit]

i'd go with this

ensure s.anis has burst lvl 9 and resil cube equipped

can give vigor to biscuit and rapu, temperance to noah

the point of T3 is to absorb emi nuke then simply kill them with s.anis

she'll be furthermore buffed by crown, proccing her passive with rapu

[umbral belfry]

think its a good idea to switch up anis and noir's team placements so t3 can burst a bit quicker? or would it be lacking in dmg

[tropic summit]

you aiming for this right?

[umbral belfry]

correct. idk if the .5 speed really matters in the long run. was curious

[tropic summit]

seems good to me, that way you're resistant to 3RL over 3.5RL

[umbral belfry]

i'm learning

okie dok, ty ty!

[tropic summit]

aye good job noticing it

[drifting schooner]

wait why am i using crown

[tropic summit]

crown is used to both slow down for 4RL and give s.anis more buffs

[wise horizon]

The guy must be laughing everyday as I try to beat him @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

omg T1

one of the reasons to both love and hate cindy

let's ask help from home

[tropic summit]

box: #pvp-arena message
matchup: #pvp-arena message

the sacc thingie on T1 though... 🤔

maybe this

🤔

liter, rosanna, biscuit will die to nuke, noah and cindy go invulnerable, can no longer burst due to lack of P1

[wise horizon]

Don’t have Noah…. She’s been avoiding me

[tropic summit]

oh

lemme check your box

[wise horizon]

my alts all have Noah but not my main….

[tropic summit]

yeah we can work that out

rather

[glad meteor]

Rumani died

[tropic summit]

yep

friendly KO does procc it too i forgot

@wise horizon i figured it out

[placid breach]

how mana for pvp?

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[plucky charm]

how can i improve this? i lose 2/3

[placid breach]

ty seem she be okay unit for it

[wise horizon]

Until tomorrow, let’s find out! Sorry for having you trying to figure out a solution.

[tropic summit]

nono sorry from myself, i messed up twice because i forgot to think about sacc on friendly side

this is a learning lesson for me too

[wise horizon]

Still it’s a good lesson to be learnt from this and for the time and effort put into it

[tropic summit]

you're too nice

[tropic summit]

have you tried these?

give quantum to jackal and anis, vigor to biscuit and rapu, resil to s.anis, temperance to noah
s.anis must've burst lvl 9 (and no ammo OL's)

you can replace s.anis with SBS or Cinderella if they're better invested

[plucky charm]

i will try those later tn thank you👍

[placid breach]

welp i need someone help make attack team better, and then help my def team. I dont use anis as lowers my cp with already low power compare to rest rn lol ( i bunch more unbuilt unit if okay just to put in instead)

[tropic summit]

how invested is your rosanna?

[placid breach]

747 lol

[tropic summit]

any atk% OL's ?

[wise horizon]

Likewise!

[placid breach]

none

[tropic summit]

oki then i guess we can bench her for now

and uh, do you've drake and laplace treasured? (either of the 2)

[placid breach]

nope i am stuck with drake regardless since she part my perm sync

[tropic summit]

hmm oke

[placid breach]

didnt know drake had treasure already too

[tropic summit]

noise centi cind sbs rumani
scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
noah biscuit rapu s.anis tia

cubes:

vigor on noise, blanc, biscuit, rapu
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis
any other nikke go for high lvl cube

notes: get helm treasured to improve a team RL threshold

[placid breach]

rumani just fine as is right?

[tropic summit]

if you got some spare quantums give it to her

[placid breach]

okay

can show u my def team too?

lol

[tropic summit]

just make your teams as this

#pvp-arena message

should be an overall upgrade

[placid breach]

def will also work in place too?

[tropic summit]

yep those are actually def teams

they can be used for offense too, as long as you know what you doing

[placid breach]

ohh

very nice

[tropic summit]

for example scarlet team will work well against SGs or high feed comps (HMGs, SMGs, etc) or anything slower than 3RL

the noah team will work well against anything that instead wants to burst at 3RL

the cindy team is more of all purpose

[placid breach]

i guess afterward it be battle of cps

[tropic summit]

the ideal would be for every main DPS to be SR15 doll and on 4 OL's with atk% and elem atk, batteries can be R15 or SR5 with ideally 4OL's gear, possibly CS%

take ur time and build them up to reach that point

[placid breach]

the final boss

[placid breach]

that will prob take some years bc rng lol and too many units always have play catch up to level eletric having me broke with all these meta XD

[tropic summit]

yeah understandable, don't forget pve/campaign team take priority over pvp

[placid breach]

oh yes the story is banger and solo raid is pve but it basically pvp since you have fight your rank

[umbral crown]

I saw someone said Ssakura

[tropic summit]

she cute

[umbral crown]

Indeed

[onyx scaffold]

They are mostly outmeta

There are like 30% usable nikkes and a lot of them are fine at low investment

[keen vapor]

Sorry for being off rail I took a bath

[quick lake]

T1: SBS Blanc Biscuit Rapunzel Jackal
T2: Moran MaidPriv Drake Anis Noir
T3: Auto
@naive goblet

[naive goblet]

ty

[nocturne arrow]

any suggestion guys?

[upper grove]

Just got a SR RL doll from the 200 doll thingy while I have no R dolls to actually upgrade, failed successfully

[keen vapor]

Woah, I never get purple RL dolls

[keen vapor]

Use Summer Anis instead of Cinderella

[upper grove]

I got 3 so far, 2 were SMG and 1 RL

at least Liter could use 1 SMG for the dmg reduction in campaign SR5 but that's it

[keen vapor]

I never installed her purple doll :Liter sip:

[upper grove]

granny demands her doll

[umbral belfry]

what does it mean when it states that an unit can "feed" jackal?

[quick lake]

Jackal’s skill 1 provides additional burst gen. Every 10 hits received by Jackal and the linked units gives 3.55 energy

[upper grove]

this also builds burst so you "feed" her procs and all her linked units benefit from this as well

[umbral belfry]

ahh gotcha, so that's why things like sniper rifles and something else (i forgot which) is very bad when attacking her?

or just altogether?

[upper grove]

it's AR, MG, SG mainly

and SMG, but RL/SR are fine

just don't use your SGs vs a jackal team

[umbral belfry]

okie dok, ty guys!

[upper grove]

I failed by using dispatch reroll for almost 500 gems today but got back the gems because of only gems and yellow kits and 120 doll mats

[quick lake]

500 gems? thats abit too much spent

🐳

[upper grove]

yeah I got back 450ish from gems dispatch and I was too stubborn to give up on yellow kits

usually I reroll 150 gems max

[quick lake]

Generally avoid running SGs teams, against an opponent Jackal team

[plucky charm]

how is this for an atk/def setup?

[glad meteor]

No xmaiden? Could slot in xmaiden for centi. And put centi in t2, unless t2 is bait for something

Decent for offense, but attack comps depend on defence

[plucky charm]

i have xmaiden but she isnt upgraded so i'd lose a chunk of combat power

is it good enough to leave as a def setup?

[leaden canyon]

I just got helm treasure, which skills do you do for her again?

[quick lake]

Its alright. Just Team2 is an easy win for the opponent

[quick lake]

10/10/1 if u’re not bursting with her

Priority Skill 1 lv10

[leaden canyon]

ok cool

thank you much

[swift mango]

Ah shit I forgot to change my dispatch to helm again... Is there anyway to change it if I didn't have anything to dispatch?

Feel like an idiot now....

[rich quail]

If it’s not done yet you can click on it to cancel

[swift mango]

You can cancel dispatch?

[upper grove]

yep just cancel, no drawbacks

[rich quail]

Yeah I did it yesterday

[swift mango]

Could you tell me where to click?

[rich quail]

Don’t click on the icon

Click on the information area

I made that mistake

[swift mango]

I will try it tomorrow... Hope it works on phone and not PC only thingy...

[rich quail]

I did it on iPhone

Should work

[swift mango]

Thanks

[swift mango]

How did you get 450 from gem dispatch? You have 10 normal dispatch and the biggest gem dispatch only gives 30.

[rich quail]

Don’t click the icon of the item
just the info box

I got confused and someone explained to me

[upper grove]

Oh it was 300ish then, I forgot the 100 from daily

my bad

[swift mango]

You meant 1, 2 or3?

[upper grove]

nvm I talked shit, I forgot I did all towers today, that's what recovered my gems

[swift mango]

@upper grove

Do you know?

[gaunt sentinel]

so peaceful after the reset

[upper grove]

I don't remember, I also dispatched incorrectly yesterday and could cancel but now I'm out of dispatches to actually check it for you

[swift mango]

Oh okay, thanks. I gotta try to cancel tomorrow... I was never able to do so but I would tap everywhere to check then...

[upper grove]

I'll check tomorrow as well just in case

[rich quail]

I guess 2

[swift mango]

Maybe only the dispatch for treasure mats can be cancelled?

[rich quail]

That’s if you forget and you already sent dispatch

[swift mango]

I think it doesn't work for other dispatch right?

[rich quail]

Haven’t tried it out with other dispatch items

[swift mango]

It's nice to see how sarc works against wipe.

But I think you can just Scarlet wipe Cindy to zero HP avoiding Biscuit altogether if you are strong enough.

Otherwise you could just hit their team 2 & 3 for easy win I guess.

Thanks for @me

Another way is maybe to just LaplaceT and make a 3RL team to kill off Rossanna first before you wipe them.

[keen vapor]

You can cancel any dispatch as long as is not complete yet

[umbral crown]

[loud sonnet]

Second doll box this week both give RL doll

[keen vapor]

Never me

[frank ingot]

How to defeat this team? my team 3 keeps losing and enemy centi still alive

[glacial lion]

L, he got helm treasure first...

[coarse basalt]

If that's pretty fast, then wouldn't Blanc Emil team works?
Abuse their spd to bypass Noah shield

[glacial lion]

nah, atk is no problem, it just harder to def

[coarse basalt]

Oh I c, ye that is true. He has more options now

[hexed nexus]

So is Helm (w/fav item) a staple in Scarlet comp now?

[rich quail]

That’s a good question

I would think no

Scar works so well with Jackal synergy-wise, I think having Helm as well would be overkill (Helm would be better on a team that desperately needs burst gen), and I think replacing Jackal with Helm on a Scarlet team may not benefit Scar nearly as much

[opal wind]

what should i change for sp aren? (i dont have scarlet at all btw )

[rich quail]

But that’s just me opinion

[graceful grotto]

show ur full box

[graceful grotto]

team 3 definitely need to change position, blanc won't burst with rh there

[opal wind]

yeah i changed that now
also wdym by box i just joined the sv yesterday im kinda new to this terms😭

[graceful grotto]

show ur full nikke list

[opal wind]

i have almost all of them besides these and some limited if it helps

[graceful grotto]

Is your helm treasured?

[opal wind]

no

[opal wind]

i can try to do it now though

[graceful grotto]

i won't say whether u should do it or no, that's up to you to decide lol

[covert lintel]

do it

[graceful grotto]

but she's pretty strong, prolly one of the strongest treasure unit atm

[hexed nexus]

I mean..you don't really need to replace jackal especially no?

How about Scarlet-Blanc-Liter-Helm(previously Centi)-Jackal?

[opal wind]

imma be honest i havent treasured anyone

because i dont have many of those items and i`ve been saving them for upcoming strong characters
imma try and treasure her now

[graceful grotto]

Blanc-Emilia-Biscuit-Rapunzel-Drake

Noah-SBS-Red Hood-Noir-Jackal

Moran-Centi-Cinderella-Helm (Treasure)-Noise

u can even swap helm (t) with Noir so u can get 2RL on team 2 and 3.5 RL on T3

[graceful grotto]

good luck, she's my targetted treasure unit at the moment

[swift mango]

but she's pretty strong, prolly one of the strongest treasure unit atm

[graceful grotto]

ah yes hahaha

[opal wind]

the same on def?

[graceful grotto]

this is defense mate

[opal wind]

oh mb

[graceful grotto]

offense is dependant on the defense you're attacking

i would normally use s.anis too but she's not built in your roaster?

[graceful grotto]

Have u built her?

[opal wind]

well that was something

[rich quail]

Like I said before, even if you put Helm with ScarJack on an SP.Arena team, would it be a good investment of units for 3 def teams? Same with atk. Of course your burst gen on that team would be great, but how would the other 2 teams fare?

In terms of Rookie, sure…

[coarse lake]

if ppl are suddenly struggling now that opponents have helm+.... you're doing something wrong

helm shouldn't make beating any common teams harder

[quick lake]

Helm just makes 2.5RL ScarJack, still easy counter

[coarse lake]

doesn't matter even if it's 2rl scar jack, if you know how to counter

[swift mango]

I wish I have the mats

[unreal latch]

helm treasure ol line for pvp full charge speed?

[coarse lake]

ig so

atk prob nice too

well too much atk is bad

gl with links

[swift mango]

Was it ever easy to def 😶

[vapid lake]

Soon every atk and def team will be 2RL

If keep releasing busted treasures

[swift mango]

There are ways to beat 2rl def with lower speed attack... Especially Cindy and Emi def

[swift mango]

It's not if they are equally invested as you. Some people can't deal with 3 2rl teams just because they don't have the units invested.

It does make attacking harder for those with little investment.

That's all it needs to hold rank in SP normally. Out investment. Also the only reliable way to hold rank aside from gemming honestly.

Team building can only do so much. When people learned to play they will just beat you on attack easily at less investment. You can only invest more in hope you were much further invested than them.

[coarse lake]

I doubt we'll see 3 2rls aside from a few niche chefs

Most we can expect is 2 2rl tbh, and that's if they're using helm to make one of them possible... Which is not gonna be common at all

Helm as dps on atk is a different topic, but most won't have that for a while

I still need ppl to test full treasure and built helm if anyone has one

Problem with 3 2rls becoming norm isn't due to not enough gen, it's due to not enough gen units that do something else helpful

Still gated by good b1 and especially b2 options

Also lack of dps that fully perform with no buffer

[radiant storm]

Still got it

[tropic summit]

that was a long one, went to an Onsen?

Jokes aside don't worry

[raven plover]

tempura lv 10 🤝

[half grail]

Is Mana good PvP?

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[quick lake]

I would say no for the average player. Unless u’re a pvp chef that cooks hard

[half grail]

I see tysm

[hollow summit]

b2 yeah, only noah, biscuit, centi, anis, anne

what else? mari?

some people don't use anne

[unique wagon]

Meanwhile me just slapping Resil 15 and Basti 13

[spiral onyx]

I maxed her out already, even before cooking

You don't need to cook to recognize that an out-of-burst auto rez is a very powerful thing

Exact setup that takes advantage of her, not sure

[summer copper]

how's her burst gen?

[spiral onyx]

But she can definitely be a flex unit to protect your B1 from being burned down

[spiral onyx]

Meh, same as Scarlet, just slightly better than your average AR

But with units like treasured Helm

Burst gen is getting more flexible

Utility units are never a bad investment

(of course, that's a relative statement, if you roll only for utility units and miss out on your DPS carries, you have no team to build lol)

I'll be traveling soon and be really busy so I won't be cooking for a good while

But my initial general thoughts:

• Flora = trash
• Rapi Red Hood = great for PvE, meh for PvP, just a copium option if you have nothing better
• Mana = extreme utility potential with her out-of-burst rez, please get 1 copy at least no matter what
• Miranda+ = interesting niche potential if you can find a PvP unit to pair her with, I don't think any qualify atm other than Emilia who already pairs with Blanc and doesn't need another buffer
• Helm+ = mega battery, prioritize for PvP
• Drake+ = enables SG rush down teams but that's not really meta atm, actually bricks himself from being paired with SAnis so I'm skipping
• Milk+ = kinda interesting, life leech if you build some weird sustain comp as a Biscuit alternative but I don't think there's really anything like that right now

[swift mango]

"himself"

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/cutie-drake-bazouz-gif-14772219659601888570

[swift mango]

[covert lintel]

yay, my decision to get *0 mana yesterday is right
i'll get another copy of her through wishlist later

[shell hazel]

do I want to burn all my pulls for mana? 😄

knowing my luck it won't go well, I went 15 or so pulls just to hit 200 gold tickets and got a Miranda

[spiral onyx]

On paper this should work, and I think I actually tested out something similar before and it did work just had burst gen issues (which Helm solves). My main worry is the usage of Moran, I want to see if there's any alternative that still let's you mitigate most of the damage (e.g. survive through an AoE nuke) without Moran

[quick lake]

Probably Quiry for HP up

[worthy zodiac]

Hey its kepipo

[spiral onyx]

Kind of want to experiment with Frima. +30% HP. Normally not sufficient to let you survive a nuke but with so much damage reduction and heals, it may be enough

[spiral onyx]

Only for 2 defenders and only 10% HP

The power of Moran is her anti nuke

I'm wondering if Frima can substitute. Trying to avoid pulling in Noise or Moran here

100% damage reduction on your Nero is useless if the rest of your team died to a Scarlet AoE nuke

[shell hazel]

OK I went for Mana, took more pulls than I wanted but I got a Noah along the way (who I didn't have)

so that's sort of a win. Also got Biscuit and Rapu copies (very pvp focus pulls!)

[spiral onyx]

Moran prevents this, but that pulls Moran out of the stable Moran Biscuit SAnis comp

This banner was very good to me as well, well above average rates

[keen vapor]

So whale he didn't skip standard unit

[quick lake]

With introduction of T.Helm, CA teams will likely be slightly faster as well

[shell hazel]

300 pulls! I think I was near 100 for 1 Mana 😄

actually no it was over 100, 140 I'd say...

my luck in pulls lately has been total garbage really, this was better than some I had though, had more SSR at least

should I silver mileage an extra copy of Noah? I need 200 for 2LB Helm but I have over 400

[keen vapor]

I hoard : frog sip:

[shell hazel]

I don't need to break 160 wall so that's done, I guess later treasure units is a factor?

[keen vapor]

It always is

[spiral onyx]

Noah is definitely the best value for your silver tickets

She was the first Pilgrim I maxed out lol

Through silver tickets of course

[shell hazel]

I can get more silver tickets long term and just randomly get more copies of units etc, I guess it's not a huge deal either way as long as I can add treasure to helm

I have her at LB1 now, so 200 silver tickets for another copy of her and then 200 for Noah, leaves me with some and I can save up 200 for next time I need to use them

think only pvp meta unit I don't have now (outside of limited ones like Emi and S.Anis) is Rumani

[jade fog]

Any tips to improve my 1st team here?
Moran - Vigor
Rapunzel - Quantum
S. Anis - Bastion
Red Hood - Bastion
Winter Maiden - Quantum

[keen vapor]

You used RH B2

[jade fog]

yeah I need another B2 reco 🥹 I used X. Anne before Rapunzel but just got killed first without even using her burst 😭

[keen vapor]

Just use biscuit...

And never do 3 attacks

[jade fog]

hmm I could swap Biscuit to team 1 but not sure who to replace her in team 3

[keen vapor]

Please read this again

[quick lake]

T2 is bad. Just run the traditional
Scarlet Blanc RH Centi Jackal

[unique wagon]

There are many options if 2 Full Burst(s) are needed:

• Ludmilla
• Pepper
• Emma
• Mica SB (TDR, stackable over long run).
• Mary BG (Buffs Helm, Max HP for everyone, stronger overtime).
• Pascal (Just regens a lot).
• Sakura: Antiwind, CDR.
• Cocoa: Debuff removal (Blanc specifically) + she stacks TDR over long run.
• Rouge: TDR after 30 shots, CDR, Max HP allows for HP padding.
• MilkTr: CDR, 20s CD, 75.5% HP Potency, and Lifesteal

[keen vapor]

Pepar

[shell hazel]

does Noah slot into any of these teams? still got Rumani on the wishlist. Railtracer cooked these up but I was lacking Noah/Rumani at the time. My box included (totally unbuilt Rosanna/Moran/Bay)

[quick lake]

If u really want to run 3 teams, I guess u could go for:
Moran Biscuit SAnis Laplace/BSoda xMaiden
Scarlet Blanc RH Emilia Jackal
Noah Centi Cindy Noise Rumani

[spiral onyx]

None of those offer the singular value that Moran offers, aka AoE nuke mitigation.

[unique wagon]

Eh, Milk is actually really good if Milk can divert Rosanna off Mana.

[shell hazel]

working on treasure helm as well but will be a while away 😄

[unique wagon]

Three attackers.

[spiral onyx]

In a meta where a B3 AoE nuke ends the fight, each team needs a way to survive the enemy nuke should they be slower to burst

[unique wagon]

Mana can keep Metal Gamma and revive.

[spiral onyx]

Moran, Noise, Noah, Bay, and Blanc are your current choices

[spiral onyx]

She can't revive if she is dead lol

[keen vapor]

Noise P4, its so dorover :deadge:

[unique wagon]

Well that comp is dead to 2 RL scar anyways.

[spiral onyx]

The condition is that the bulk of the team can survive a double buffed AoE nuker

Moran enables that

But without Moran, having a P1 tank that doesn't die doesn't do much

Makima already achieves that solo

But you don't see her being used much cause it's no point her staying alive is the rest of the team is dead

[keen vapor]

Chainsaw man Collab

[spiral onyx]

But the Nero Helm+ Mana Rapunzel team does take advantage of the fact that all units get damage reduction from Nero

Not enough to survive a nuke, but a decent amount

So just need to find someone who can push that over the edge and let the team survive, someone other than Moran

If there's a Moran lite that gives +20% damage reduction instead of 34%, that'll be enough

[keen vapor]

Rumani

[spiral onyx]

Frima gives +30% HP. Maybe that'll be enough, don't know without testing

Rumani only self buffs

[unique wagon]

Does shield block wipe?

[spiral onyx]

Not the last time I checked. But who knows now lol

[unique wagon]

Problem is Rosanna deactivating Mana in that comp.

Which means someone must divert Mana dispel off.

[spiral onyx]

I don't see that as a major problem. You lose the rez but you should still be fine. Both are AR so Mana should get at least one heal off and get the Nero buff on herself for 5s

The rez at that point is a backup, not the main thing. The main thing is continual sustain

[unique wagon]

Helm being water.

Rosanna being electric. In 2 RL cases, Rosanna will wipe HelmTr.

[spiral onyx]

Oh wait Rosanna is MG not AR

I dunno who will get it off first then

[unique wagon]

If Rapu is to revive Helm in FB 1 or FB 2.

[onyx scaffold]

wtf whale+lucksacc

[unique wagon]

AR first.

[spiral onyx]

So I'm more thinking about the scope of CA. If they put together a 2RL team, their other teams are probably fked lol

[unique wagon]

I think

[spiral onyx]

In SP, you can try running this as your third team I guess

[shell hazel]

lost in the chat I think, but still open question 😄

[unique wagon]

We dk how CA works.

[spiral onyx]

They already said 5 teams officially

We just don't know the win condition

[unique wagon]

You can probably replace Moran in Biscu SAnis comp cus there might be just as stable alternative

[spiral onyx]

I've tried and the only stable alternative really is Noah Biscuit

And that's super expensive

Ludmilla Biscuit SAnis is your discount version that's not AoE-nuke friendly

Noise Biscuit SAnis works if you super buff your Noise and also run Rapunzel

[unique wagon]

Maybe Tia + another B1 at the back that protects from AoE

[spiral onyx]

Moran just works best cause B1 and defender so most stable

I'm putting my hopes in Frima but will have to test later

Need sleep first

[quick lake]

T2: Noah Centi Cindy Noir Noise
T3: Blanc Rapi Biscuit Rapunzel Rumani

[spiral onyx]

Then packing for long plane ride to China

[shell hazel]

I don't have Rumani yet sadly. On wishlist, main notable missing unit

though it seems like I can replace Naga with Noah for now? I need to get Noah up a bit on CP though, would lose a lot

Naga is 50K cp and Noah is 20K 😄

[unique wagon]

Still think triple attacker is the way

[keen vapor]

Overload time

[unique wagon]

Protecting against unbuffed Scar/Rosa

[quick lake]

T1: Scarlet Grave RH Drake Jackal
T2: Noah Centi Cindy Noir Noise
T3: Blanc Rapi Biscuit Rapunzel xMaiden

[shell hazel]

I have had zero luck really with pilgrim def gear - Cindy has been stuck on 2 pieces for ages

[keen vapor]

Is not the same

[shell hazel]

no but you can get cp gapped if not careful

I need to build out units to swap in cautiously

[shell hazel]

CP gapped here probably if I try this, this is down to uninvested units

i'm gripping onto C2 currently with the teams I set above, seems no one has challenged me for a few days anyway

I'm primarily skilling up RH for 10/10/10 (useful in pvp as well) but I'm OL my pvp units and getting them to 4/4/4 where I can as well

Drake/Noah/Blanc/Rapu have no investment at all

[quick lake]

Hm yeah, can probably stick to ur original teams then

[shell hazel]

I can prep Noah some, I think I'm just OL biscuit/jackal/noise a bit as well. Takes a few days to get one bit of gear to OL state

keep hoping for a random Rumani meanwhile 🙂

work in progress really, but each day I'm building stuff up and trying to keep my position near the top 🙂

is rapunzel a good unit to invest in longer term for OL? I'm trying to avoid spending where I won't really use the units

stuff like Blanc is fine as I'll use her in SR/UR as well

[quick lake]

Probably lower priority for now. Biscuit, Jackal Noise first

[shell hazel]

roger! thanks

[unique wagon]

Why does sometimes T2 2 RL sometimes it doesnt

[swift mango]

Probably they move Quantum cube around... If you used RL only to attack it and they didn't have quantum equipped they may missed it by 3% after 2rl

[unique wagon]

I dont have Quantum too

But both teams shud be 2 RL

[swift mango]

I mean their team could be 2.5 if they don't equip quantum at all or just Jackal

You didn't feel them much since you used RL only team.

Only 1 jackal s1 triggered

Not enough without using 3 quantum

Also, Scarlet randomly trigger her skill as well

[unique wagon]

MAN WHY DID I OL SUGAR FOR JUST 1 RAID THAT WAS SO BRICK NOW NO MATS FOR ROSANNA GGWP IM FU-

[swift mango]

That could add just barely enough to 2rl even if they lacked quantum

[unique wagon]

Nono ure missing the point

I reach 2RL 80% of the time

But this comp has weird variations

Perhaps Emilia's positioning matters

Or ill just throw Quantum on Noah

[keen vapor]

How base overload does that to you

[unique wagon]

The gear bruh

[swift mango]

You could forget the quantum yourself.

[unique wagon]

Absolutely faking gay

[swift mango]

My Suger was one of my first OL units, back when I was only 1 month old and need her to beat Gravedigger

[unique wagon]

[wild patio]

Does anyone have link to the burst gen calculator like this? I cant access to the new ver with updated characters

[unique wagon]

That is Kosmiu's

There are 2 vers

But they are formatted the same weird af

[wild patio]

Thank you

[unique wagon]

I think Gatrix is the derivative sincee Gatrix sheet has Noah buff tims, Blanc buff time, etc

[keen vapor]

Blanc buff time?

[quick lake]

Might be similar to Noah's shield delay time

[keen vapor]

Makes sense

[swift mango]

0nly 0.06RL but it happened to me once... My Blanc activated targeting Scarlet then Scarlet ded and Blanc resolved without hitting anyone...

[quick lake]

Yeah, happens

[keen vapor]

It happens to me all the time with Emilia

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Emi

[swift mango]

Wait... You have no Emilia, right?

[quick lake]

Nopee

Dont have

[swift mango]

No wonder you are struggling a bit even with 17% CS on all RL...

[quick lake]

Now its abit better with T.Helm

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

[lunar dirge]

cindy rng

might happen if you're barely over 100 on burst gen calc

becasue sometimes cindy only hits a unit

sometimes unit and a cover

the number in burst gen calc is an average

[unique wagon]

I didnt use Cindy

Your eyes need checking

[lunar dirge]

team 2,lemme see

[bleak shale]

Gatrix used mine as a template to mod for his

Idk if he fixed the quantum issue in the latest version, I did give him the formula of what I did to fix it

[lunar dirge]

maybe you forgot your burst gen cubes

cuz without them you lack a tiny bit

[keen vapor]

99

[unique wagon]

Yeah

[lunar dirge]

problem solved

[gray socket]

Emilia tan is good burst gen???

[swift mango]

New helm is kinda pointless when you don't even build your team right...

[keen vapor]

Yes

[umbral crown]

Now go for C1

[swift mango]

Attack is easy. Def is the hard part.

[umbral crown]

Investment issues

[swift mango]

When I finished building them I will be back.....

[umbral crown]

2026?

[swift mango]

2 months at most

When skill reset come I could build Mana, Rossanna and Helm decently and could unleash hell upon them...

Lots of strategy to switch around with 3 of them into the fray.

Right now they learned how to beat all the def I put out... If one guy couldn't beat a def they just wait for another guy to beat me down.

[bleak shale]

Isn't that true for every unit

[swift mango]

Rossanna, 4-10-7

Mana could be fine with 5-5-5

Helm 10-5-5 I guess...

Kinda a waste on Biscuit s3lv7.... Well, maybe one day I would get to use her...

[swift mango]

Yeah... But helm is worth 1.5 a clip RL... Could have used her much better than putting her there.

[strong hull]

Good def blood-kun

Gatekeeper D1

[swift mango]

[strong hull]

D1 below cant win me tho but c10 they know me too well even im win them they fight back lol

[swift mango]

Other than Cindy and Scarlet... Team 3 options like Emi, ASS and SBS all had big flaws... And pretty much a free win when enemies learned how to beat them... For me...

Emilia was for a few months just because everyone was new back then.

Then ASS held around 3 weeks.

SBS held around 2.

Needs Noah to survive my bracket without worrying about building a bunch of units...

Or get lucky with OL line for once...

[umbral crown]

But are you working on OL meanwhile? Rosanna needs atk and good investment besides skills

[swift mango]

I want to use Rossanna to Sarc... And if I need to beat Scarlet's link I could always bring LapT with her.

Rossanna doesn't need to one shot anyone

[umbral crown]

She needs, thats the point

[swift mango]

Darn I was really lucky today... 11 pulls Mana... Come to Honkai Impact... Made half-off 10 pulls and got the new 1.5% character, then come to their weapon banner and 11 pulls the weapon...

Too bad still no Noah in Nikke.

[swift mango]

Well, I already beat the C1 75 lv gap of my bracket last week... That's one wish off the list

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

You when

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Wait, why you have 2 different pfp

[umbral crown]

Because

[fickle marsh]

What's the best team for arena attack and defense, assuming I have all units?

[swift mango]

This is the 1 billion dollars question that people keep coming here and ask because they can't even try...

[fickle marsh]

that wasnt helpful

[keen vapor]

I try and fail

[swift mango]

First you must understand this game has a mechanic called CP deficit. It apply to both arena and campaign. You can't just have all units and suddenly could build a good team when you didn't even invest in anything.

[keen vapor]

Yeah, investment too important

If you're synch 900 you can auto everything, even PVP

[swift mango]

Yeah, the best investment is credit card

[keen vapor]

We F2P have to overload and invest dolls

[swift mango]

Nah try to swipe your card to level 900 without units investment and auto Keripo.Then come back and report your flex.

[quick lake]

Standard cookie cutter teams are:
Scar Blanc RH Centi Jackal
Blanc SAnis Biscuit Emilia Rumani
Some Noise Noah Cindy team maybe

No perfect teams. PvP defence teams always gets cracked

🍳

[keen vapor]

Like mine

[quick lake]

[keen vapor]

Blanc twice : Blanc stare:

[quick lake]

Have 2 Blanc then

[keen vapor]

Oh, that gives me an idea

Where's our Anne rerun

[quick lake]

who uses anne nowadays

[spiral onyx]

Jokes on them, the level cap is 840 or something atm

[keen vapor]

I thought it was over 850

[keen vapor]

How much it did go up with Mana

[spiral onyx]

5 every new unit I think? The websites should have the formula somewhere

[coarse lake]

have you been able to test helm+ as dps? mainly her nuking potential as a 2rl team vs 3rl, nuking either the main dps link or taunted noah (bypass invuln)

for the noah one, I know that rapipi is inconsistently able to snipe noah before invuln triggers, but her raw dmg is too high, so often noah hits invuln before burst, so I feel like a helm+ that's taunted by noah might be able to do it when paired with weak teammates

[swift mango]

Helm also deal sh*t tons of dmg with the s2 now. Edit: Oh taunted.

I guess your idea helm would be 10-1-10 lol

[hollow pelican]

@tropic summit took your advice from yesterday and finally won. Thank you!

[tropic summit]

glad it worked

[shell hazel]

Railtracer I got Noah, but no Rumani yet... still in wishlist

[lunar dirge]

after i double pulled rrh,my luck had finally run out,and i have no mana in 50 pulls,and i usually need to go to either sr 8 or 13 to finish a doll and i'm still rerolling a single piece on rrh to get a line 2 atk/ele

[shell hazel]

not sure I can adjust anything yet, need more CP and things still

[lapis field]

This ahole keeps on spamming on my spot who I didn't kicked his spot but from someone lol

[umbral crown]

But when MA

[spiral onyx]

No cause I don't have enough favorite items

[coarse lake]

[spiral onyx]

Also from Lupus's perspective:
"This ahole keeps on spamming lol"

[umbral crown]

Treasure issues uwu

[lapis field]

Well that guy started this fiasco spam. Likes to suck me so bad for 3rd rank but someone took his spot in the first place and now I'm his target without knowing from the battle record who kicked his butt lmao 💀

At least my lineup was 10k lower than his and 13 lvl gap lower also can kick his semi whaler lineup still

[umbral crown]

Can you beat C1?

[shell hazel]

hopefully 😛

[lapis field]

1st rank? A big whaler

[onyx scaffold]

it is funny how this one guy upgrading his team by putting rumani it, not knowing that he gets his team weaker for lower cp

[umbral crown]

Uwu

[daring saffron]

anybody free to help me shuffle my sp arena teams around on vc?

[shell hazel]

who? if you meant me as I was mentioning her, then no I am not silly enough to throw in an uninvested Rumani, I just want the unit so I can build her for later use in my teams

[tropic summit]

post here your box, nikke ordered by strength, no need for VC

[tropic summit]

hmm let's see

you skipped emilia right? or she's benched?

[daring saffron]

current teams (team 2 is where im stuck reshuffling)

[tropic summit]

oh there she is

do you've emi on 21%CS by any chance?

[daring saffron]

shes not invested enough to be a b3