pvp-arena

[keen vapor]

He's flexing

He got 3% while I don't

[gaunt cypress]

sound:0:4

[coarse lake]

git gud

[fickle swift]

Noice thanks man ngl didn't expect to get Cube recommendation too lol I've put it to the defense team now hoping they stop attacking me

Can you send it now so I don't need to ask again 👉👈

[tropic summit]

sure:

[keen vapor]

How you even use SG team

[wise horizon]

left side is me and right side is opponent. top is T1, middle is T2, bottom is T3.
Im not expecting much from T2 and dont have noah or rapunzel. is this doable? @tropic summit

[coarse lake]

I don't

[tropic summit]

hmm looks good for T1 and T3, as long as you're in CP range, although for scarlet you got no B2 or B1 buffer at all? e..g liter instead of pepper 🤔

[wise horizon]

ahhh thhanks for that. totally forgot about that

[tropic summit]

you can also throw a grave if you got one

[tropic summit]

grave variation:

keep instead pepper when you wanna burst at 2.5RL, for example against an emilia 3RL

(you'll need quantum at least lvl 1 tho)

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[coarse lake]

focus more on pve smh

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

oi, a pvp master is telling you to focus on pve, how did we get to this

[fickle swift]

I've tried putting rumani instead of naga this much diff should be safe right?

[tropic summit]

hmm 20k at your synch level is probably irrelavant, looks good

see if you can get helm treasured, as she can boost your current cindy from 3RL to 2RL threshold (burst faster)

that'd be the icing on the cake

[fickle swift]

Noice tytyty

[fickle swift]

I've actually been looking to get her treasure for solo raid

[tropic summit]

viceversa, if you've emi on 21% CS in total, you're already hitting 2.5RL

[keen vapor]

[fickle swift]

If I got her who do you think I should change?

[tropic summit]

hmmmm

we can free up emi, possibly reuse her in the scar-jack team

[fickle swift]

So change xmaiden with her right?

[tropic summit]

yup, becomes this:

you've both the emi indom variant and the scarlet variant

and promote cindy from 3RL to 2RL

that looks kinda fearsome considered you could promote scarlet to 2.5RL or 2RL aswell

a third variant in case your variant 2 is defeated:

[fickle swift]

Thank youu now with a clear path I'm going to make them regret being in the same arena as me

[tropic summit]

what have i done, I made a monster @keen vapor

[keen vapor]

I'm on chapter 21 at last

We ball

[tropic summit]

echo going full man mode

[covert lintel]

no RL char

[woeful isle]

Hello, could I get some teams for sp arena ( don't have Scarlet). Thanks!

[tropic summit]

taking a look

[tropic summit]

oh ressed scarlet with sacc and then blanc buff + indom, now that's interesting

wait that's quiry lvl 1 sacc even, hence double sacc?

what a chad

[vapid lake]

?

[covert lintel]

scar not dying, she became paladin which does tanking and counteratking

[tropic summit]

is laplace treasured btw?

[woeful isle]

no treasures yet

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind pepper noise
emilia blanc rh tia jackal
noah biscuit rapu s.anis noir

cubes:

quantum on centi, jackal
vigor on blanc, biscuit, rapu, noise
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis, s.anis must've lvl 9 burst skill and no ammo OL
rest of the nikke use highest available lvl cube

notes: consider wishlisting/building HelmT asap to boost a team RL threshold

[bleak shale]

sounds like a report

[tropic summit]

if this was the temporary solution, i dunno how i feel about it

[spiral cairn]

That damn Moran is unkillable

[tropic summit]

she is killable, you need to buff your damage dealers tho

[hoary hill]

Hi can someone maybe do me a sp Arena Team

[keen vapor]

One?

[hoary hill]

I need overall 3 my teams are kinda outdated thats why i ask mostly

I mean i do still good but i feel like it could be better with right Teams and would maybe come more far instead of a auto teams basically

[spiral cairn]

They are buffed but when she increases her max hp under 20%, she outstalls me then

Screw that, 2 place forever in Rookie then

Fun gamemode isnt that fun when its reduced to daily stuff without any testing options

[hoary hill]

So yea could you maybe help me out with it Echo

[keen vapor]

In short

Is just that any meal that I have is torture

[hoary hill]

Oke

[wise horizon]

@tropic summit hmm T1 didn’t quite work

[slim sparrow]

Any recommandation for pvp def sp? Got all units except mana. Got Laplace full treasured, helm teasure lvl 2 (dont got burst upgrade) with skill1 lvl 6. Thx

[limber patrol]

how much burst gen does helm have now?

with treasure

[keen vapor]

I said top 1

Here

[tropic summit]

you can run these:

alternatively these:

#pvp-arena message

[limber patrol]

wtf... can we make a 1rl team now?

[tropic summit]

1RL is only possible with enemy cindy in p1

[limber patrol]

on the enemy team right

but I mean how fast is a team with Helm now

2rl still the limit?

did the gaytrix tool update with helm

?

[tropic summit]

oh we could've gone SBS there 🤔

the 3RL emi nuke wasn't needed on T1 but T2

we can either run:

or fix a T1 that wipes enemy T1 instead and skip enemy T2

reminder that i shouldn't check discord while working

[tropic summit]

yes it's updated, helm is in there

[tropic summit]

think so, or at least noone pulled off a 1.5RL as of yet

[tardy canopy]

I managed to beat this player all the time. Then he surpassed me in a flinch.
I feel a bit envy and also proud he can be my benchmark.
Too bad I don't think he's in the server nor Reddit so no way to talk to this dude.

[wise horizon]

Emi nuke doesn’t quite work on T2 either. lol

[limber patrol]

what priority?

because it mentions S2 and S1 but on different tiers

and the highest just adds both...

[tropic summit]

alright then, T1 team it is, post your box we gonna get you fixed

jackal feed even with crown was enough for 2.5RL

[limber patrol]

also recommended teams for Helm? or her role is just burst gen?

[hoary hill]

Can someone pls help me make a sp Arena consisting of 3 teams please thanks

[tropic summit]

burst gen for the most part, else she may be a jackal link killer

[tropic summit]

hmm let's see

[slim sparrow]

No emilia nor thelm ?

Anis is also a big drop of cp

[hoary hill]

oke thank you Railtracer

[tropic summit]

helm unless s2+s1 max doesn't add value on burst gen, unless i read it wrong?

she'd be a normal clip, so you'd have still 3RL

we can put her anyway if you really want her

[tropic summit]

as for anis, you can sub her with helm for CP

once helm is maxed, we can make a cindy 2RL and keep scarlet on 2.5RL

[tropic summit]

emilia can be in T3

[keen vapor]

Oh I'm getting robbed .....

[tropic summit]

oh you want to it?

[keen vapor]

I didn't lie about my meals

[tropic summit]

[hoary hill]

so thats what you meant

well i didnt understand it really

[lunar dirge]

A bum like you can just forget, so we double check

[hoary hill]

you just said any meal i have is a torture

so idk couldnt do something eith the sentence actually

[lunar dirge]

🫵

[keen vapor]

No, that I have

[hoary hill]

torture like having pain while esting cuz of a certain condition or turture cuz many people ask for that while you eat

[keen vapor]

Me is me

[keen vapor]

The first

[hoary hill]

oh oke thats shit

[tropic summit]

either way:

scarlet grave liter anis jackal
centi naga SBS dkw noir
blanc alice rapu biscuit rumani

wishlist/build: noise, noah

[hoary hill]

alright thanks

[tropic summit]

ok let's see

[keen vapor]

I got robbed

[hoary hill]

is there an second option for anis maybe or not

[keen vapor]

Overload anis

[umbral crown]

Give a chance you will nor regret

[hoary hill]

oke i have to build her at some point i guess

[umbral crown]

But i watched when it was airing

Do i really

[tropic summit]

inb4 the teams were the same or similar

[tropic summit]

check CP with this matchup:

for w/e reason we were stuck on indom emi but it wasn't even needed, they're slow af

brain fart

[keen vapor]

Similar yes

[keen vapor]

BUT BETTER

[tropic summit]

yours are better I would never dare

[keen vapor]

I'm PVP MA for something

[tropic summit]

ohoh le crown in T1 and grave in T3 naruhodo

[keen vapor]

@hoary hill it's better if you use Noir instead, is just that at the moment Maiden is higher CP

[tropic summit]

what a chad

[hoary hill]

oke thank you Echo

[keen vapor]

Actually

Grave/Anis/Cinderella/Rapunzel/Noir

We don't want Cinderella in P2

[umbral crown]

[hoary hill]

well seems like i need to build anis in the next days

[keen vapor]

[hoary hill]

and noir uff

[keen vapor]

Press auto for third team in the meantime

[hoary hill]

alright

[umbral crown]

[hoary hill]

well that should do i guess 20k cp less then before but i should be able do get back there in maybe two weeks or so

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor he has rouge, is it needed to build noir tho? 🤔

[keen vapor]

next wind raid

[hoary hill]

yea in february

i need to upgrade the doll should give me some easy cp

[tropic summit]

dolls increase is on the lower end compared to OL's

also far more RNGy

[umbral crown]

If lucky

[hoary hill]

i mean getting good ol gears takes time

[umbral crown]

[hoary hill]

alone getting some stones already does like 3 a day considering i dont do kraken right now

kraken i can get to phase two the same with mirror container actually

[limber patrol]

wdym?

Jackal link killer?

[tropic summit]

her burst is a pretty heavy single target hitter, any linked nikke will also get punished by that as they spread it

[clear depot]

It is normal on SP arena to attack someone and get disconnected connection? The weird thing is that I had supposedly 2 teams guaranteed to win but when I connected again, it was used a free daily try, and I lost the attack. that's bitter. Never happened to me before this

[hoary hill]

most of the time when this error occurs i stay and dont click it

[tropic summit]

issue is well known and already reported

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1321849066266689607

[hoary hill]

and get the normal win titel atleast that works for me

[limber patrol]

does she one shot all of them?

[tropic summit]

it's untested, just theory

would need a very invested helm with OL's and possibly doll

[hoary hill]

getting favorite items is pretty annoiyng actually (for me atleast )

[limber patrol]

wdym possibly doll?

Helm treasure already has a doll...

[upper grove]

doll RNG sucks in addition to OL RNG

[hoary hill]

yea getting a sr doll level 15 like so many wasted materials what could have made other r dolls 15 its insane

[upper grove]

I'm currently at 5 maxed SR 15 dolls and a 6th is in the works, then Helm is getting upgraded then drake

[clear depot]

That's odd. So old bug and still not fixed... Thanks!

[hoary hill]

not bad how long did it took you

[upper grove]

end of January: 5 months

[hoary hill]

not bad

[upper grove]

blue is full SR15, RH is currently at SR6, purple marks are SR5

[tropic summit]

and possibly affection*

essentially, boost her stats a ton

[hoary hill]

rapi sr 15 damn thats crazy so it basically take you a whole raid to max good to know

[tropic summit]

multiplier itself is already pretty good

[upper grove]

even more than that, I had some spare materials and waited to for new years to spend them. I was lucky that SBS got SR5 -> SR15 in like 40 gold mats and 30 purple

[limber patrol]

what's the multiplier of the best AOE damage dealer in pvp?

[hoary hill]

no way damn

thats actualls not bad

[tropic summit]

look at that beauty

[upper grove]

rapi for example I was SR5, then had to upgrade almost to SR9, then SR10 -> SR12 until gold mats 40% failed twice

[limber patrol]

let's say someone using Bay. Helm's 8200%+ divided by 5 is 1600%+ final attack dmg.
Can 1600% final attack damage one shot 5 nikkes? (let's say 0 deficit fight)

if someone using Jackal it's 2700%+ for 3 nikkes...

[limber patrol]

that's single target

[tropic summit]

single target on enemy jackal which spreads to 3 nikke

[limber patrol]

I'm talking about any other nikke that does AOE on pvp

[hoary hill]

yea the rng of upgrading dolls sucks had like the same problem

[limber patrol]

compare the multipliers to that

[tropic summit]

eh no clue

[limber patrol]

Scarlet? idk

[upper grove]

at least I'm lucky with R dolls up to 15, never hit 4, 8 or 14

[hoary hill]

pretty quick not bad iam actually on it too to get helm ready for the favorite item but it probably takes me some time to get there

[tropic summit]

oh dw it's not mine, just from nikkipedia

[limber patrol]

and she one shots or deal a huge % of damage right?

then Helm should be doing like double that

[hoary hill]

yea iam r dolls are always quick to get up to 15

[limber patrol]

when enemy is using bay

[hoary hill]

oh oke

[limber patrol]

and 3.5x that to jackal and links

around that

[upper grove]

I've seen screenshots of a R doll at stage 14

[limber patrol]

So Helm actually could burst and kill them when there's linked damage on pvp :D?

like one shot lol

[hoary hill]

i probably was there to once hut iam not sure

but yea had the most pain with diesel sr 15 tbh

the only sr 15 actually

but no bond 30 level nor mlb cuz iam a dummy who didnt read trough the recirements

[upper grove]

only 2 extra dupes, no MLB needed

400 silver mileage

[hoary hill]

alright

well thats gonna take a while but yea

i have to see actually

i could potentinally give ice maiden sr doll for some cp gain sinve i got r 15

but iam waiting or moreever hoping to get one rh but i think i wont get that soon

[slim sparrow]

ok ty, so to summarize, I only need to replace anis by thelm when s1 maxed ?

i dont care if no emilia, that was just strange cause i was thinking she was not replaceable

[slim sparrow]

or anis by emilia maybe ? to put thelm in cindy team

[tropic summit]

anis is a replacement, but yeah CP will get hit unless invested, so it makes sense you'd prefer emilia

[tropic summit]

yeah pretty much

think of helmT as yet another battery, just superior to anyone else although

she's a tier of her own in that field

[tropic summit]

yep, you could have a 2RL and a 2.5RL or 2RL if emi is on 21% CS

to give you a practical example:

#pvp-arena message

[slim sparrow]

yes i have 21cs emi

[tropic summit]

version without anis, but with emi on 21% CS

in some scenarios you might prefer 2 teams on 2RL, depending on whoever is attacking you

[slim sparrow]

ok thx i'll use that as base 🙂

[umbral crown]

[misty finch]

Any recs on how to beat this team?

[hexed cypress]

Team to beat Blanc- soda bunny- rapunzel- biscuit- cinder? Burst same time as me but my team cant sustain avainst Soda nuke

Any tips to beat this team? Burst same time as me but my team cant sustain against Soda nuke

[swift mango]

Swap Jackal and Cindy position

[umbral crown]

Si

[rich quail]

What’s the skill investment recommend for THelma?

10/10/10okgotit

[raven plover]

[keen vapor]

In essence

So much 10/10/10 characters

[rich quail]

Just finished today

I have 8 characters at 10/10/10

[keen vapor]

:deadge:

[rich quail]

The other 7

THelma will be number niiiiiiiiine

[quick lake]

Helm worth it

[umbral crown]

but when echo max skill scar

[upper grove]

when is echo using core dust boxes

[umbral crown]

for nikke 3

[swift mango]

Gotta build her next month or two but I'm so back....

😭

[graceful grotto]

Man u can't resist huh hahaha, grats

[swift mango]

Thanks 😭

This season I'm not gonna be in the top 3 anyway. They finally breach my defense and that means everyone who can will attack me and me alone while not hitting each others.

No snipe them either because the 2 guys total time online basically 24/7

Gonna wait until my Rossanna, Helm and Mana built so I could have my revenge.

[still storm]

@unique wagon dumb question: is a 1.5 RL scarlet nuke comp possible with Helm treasure?

[quick lake]

Doubt

[swift mango]

With enough CS you could... I mean 25% CS on helm and Jackal at less. Good luck with that

Or enemy full of SG, MG

[still storm]

what if I threw in Emilia and centi for some reason

[swift mango]

I mean SR and RL basically Regen nothing at 0.5 RL, so either 1rl or 2RL, there would be no 1.5RL unless feed or Charge speed.

[glacial lion]

winable?

[still storm]

nah you're getting wiped

cindy is too slow

[swift mango]

You can at best get to 70% in one RL right now with this fastest Scar-Jack. So without feed or 25% CS on 2 RL/SR it's impossible.

[keen vapor]

Blood what have you done you weren't going to pull

[swift mango]

11 pulls

[still storm]

is it a bad idea to put Helm with Sanis for a 2.5 RL setup?

[keen vapor]

How many vouchers left

[quick lake]

Yeah, u'll need 25% Emi/Helm maybe

[valid fern]

I haven't changed my defense recently but all of a sudden my opponents who normally win are losing. All i did was upgrade a few cubes, does that actually make that much of a difference? 😂

[swift mango]

It's defend on your bracket ... 2.5RL Noah could catch common Scar-Blanc at least

[keen vapor]

Maybe

[quick lake]

If u went to the next CP milestone i.e. 341, 361 etc, it helps alot

[swift mango]

Emi only need 19% I think... Helm and others will need 25%...

[quick lake]

I'll have a hard time killing once my whales reach the next milestone

[glacial lion]

[still storm]

If I see no helm in my bracket, am I supposed to assume they don't have her built up enough to use in pvp (in fear of power penalty, missing phase 1/2, etc.)?

[swift mango]

I'm not flexing anymore or my luck gonna go bad... But I have more 200 pulls now.

[valid fern]

proceeds to upgrade more cubes

[glacial lion]

ros nuke without crit cant kill rh anymore

[rich quail]

Guess we need to build us some crit then

[keen vapor]

4 attack 3 crit 1 ele

Wait, we can 444 that

[swift mango]

Bruh ofc you can't...

[keen vapor]

Ok, enough left for collab

[glacial lion]

ig i will use this till xanne banner rerun...

[swift mango]

Maybe you could try Crown for science... To see if her 20% dmg buff could help your Rossanna....

[leaden canyon]

man I need a new defense

I'm getting slapped around

[umbral crown]

hit them back and make a new defense

[leaden canyon]

any ideas for a new defense

[swift mango]

I'm tired or making new def, nothing work unless have new units built.

[umbral crown]

which you do not i guess

[swift mango]

I'm building them up so it takes times...

[rich quail]

Understandable

Gotta go back to the lab

[keen vapor]

You don't have her?

[quick lake]

T1 unprotected Blanc easily killed
T3 easily countered by Cindy teams

[unique wagon]

Technically

[glacial lion]

yes...

[unique wagon]

By feed

[unique wagon]

icbm will love that SAnis team

That is 3/3 winnable

But cp padding shud protect Emil team somehow

[leaden canyon]

yeah idk what to do about my t3 team

I'm out of ideas

[quick lake]

Do u have Mari or Rosanna invested?

[keen vapor]

Moran Blanc team

[quick lake]

Moran Bay

[leaden canyon]

rosanna is invested but mari is just average invested and not overloaded

[keen vapor]

Moran Rumani Bay

[leaden canyon]

I can start working on a better team, let me know what I should work on

I'll build them up

I'm working on helm treasure currently

[keen vapor]

Same

[quick lake]

Is Moran at leasst 4/4/7 or 10

[leaden canyon]

5/5/4

shes overloaded

[quick lake]

Hmm

[quick lake]

Noir burst skill lv?

[leaden canyon]

4

[quick lake]

Best cook I can come up with so far

Defence should hold hopefully

[leaden canyon]

Thanks! hopefully it works out

[leaden canyon]

btw in a perfect world, what would the defense be?

I dont mind working on units for pvp

my PVE is already done

[quick lake]

My biased opinion is, getting >15% cs on clip RLs

[leaden canyon]

I'll keep that in mind

[quick lake]

Opponent’s gonna have a hard hard time this

[leaden canyon]

my helm SR doll is phase 10

I have enough stuff to max the treasure when I get it

[quick lake]

But yeah, I think 17% cs is a little bit much for the average player. But helm is definitely worth the treasure

I would really recommend 17% cs for T.Helm

[leaden canyon]

got it

[quick lake]

Easy pvp carry

[leaden canyon]

does a cube matter on her besides charge speed cube to fill in charge speed?

[covert lintel]

helm definitely need 4.92 x 4 cs

[quick lake]

Probably need more testing. Im not sure if quantum affects her skill 1

[glacial lion]

this team is fun

[quick lake]

Helm with 17% cs almost guarantees the team to be 2.5RL

[leaden canyon]

btw cindy with level 13 resilience or level 7 HP up

[quick lake]

I would go with HP

[quick lake]

Bombs explode during Noah’s shield

[strong hull]

Soon

[coarse lake]

t1 2rl noah
t2 any speed blanc biscuit cindy, or 2rl emi blanc jackal nuke (since you're feeding them)

[glacial lion]

it not about her burst, her s2 after burst can kill them

[leaden canyon]

which one of these is helms btw

[leaden canyon]

ty

[quick lake]

No defence is perfect

[gaunt sentinel]

man its finally peaceful

[still storm]

not sure if rls are everyting
escially because it depends on how good you win conditions are built skill wise (scarlet, sanis, and cinderella), and also combat power considerations

[quick lake]

Yep definitely

[still storm]

also when it lists 17% (or 21/38 for Emilia), that's charge speed from lines and/or adjutant cube (also factoring in Emilia's Skill 1)

[quick lake]

Being fast still helps somewhat. But against tailored attacks, u still will lose

Defence can always be broken

[swift mango]

You have every of you RL at 17%?

[quick lake]

Most

[swift mango]

I mean like the pic you just post. Everyone of your Clip RL are 17%

It's true?

[quick lake]

More than clip RLs

Noise Noah Centi Rumani Bay xMaiden

[swift mango]

How many cubes did you used for this?... Because I used 20 just for one decent CS line on Rumani

[quick lake]

I think I spent roughly 120-130 in total to get my RLs to >17%

[swift mango]

Guess I will need to save until 100 before I roll...

[quick lake]

Which I think is quite alright. Alot of my RLs had raw 4.92%

[swift mango]

So my luck improved

[swift mango]

[quick lake]

I think I was really lucky tbh

Almost all my RLs had units has 1-2 raw T11 CS

[swift mango]

Most of my raw CS were on AR.

[still storm]

meanwhile me and my way too slow 4RL Sanis/Biscuit/Rapu/Noah/Alice team

[quick lake]

Only xMaiden didnt have any and had to redo everything

[swift mango]

Yeah, muck with Arena units are shit.

[still storm]

Alice is there because without her my power dips super hard

[swift mango]

Whether it's OL or pulling.

[still storm]

if I sub in Noise, -100k power

[quick lake]

Since pivoting to PvP roughly 2 months back, I have spent roughly 195 rocks and counting

[swift mango]

This game didn't want me to dominate my bracket.

So they giving crap for everything...

My Rapipi got 3 4.92% CS....

[still storm]

do you recommend making the pvp pivot on top of helm?

rn I got 2 cs lines on helm for 8.37% cs

[quick lake]

I shifted focus to pvp cause my low fps bricks my SR. And also finally got Noah. Up to u to decide how much u wanna invest in pvp, niche game mode either way

[quick lake]

I still think 17% helm is still really good. Makes team building much easier

[umbral belfry]

should be winnable right? t1 is just to gap

[quick lake]

Looks alright

[keen vapor]

Mine got 4 hit rate

[swift mango]

Hit rate is much better than CS...

[keen vapor]

No one wants hit rate

[keen vapor]

It's not

[swift mango]

It is

[keen vapor]

SGs, who else

Ok, Quency as well

[swift mango]

Even MG can use Hit rate a bit

[keen vapor]

Only if you're called Modernia

[swift mango]

AR and SMG also need hit rate

[keen vapor]

Mention a good SMG DPS

Miranda doesn't counts

[swift mango]

Quency

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

I wasted 20 rock just for 2 hit rate line on RH.

[keen vapor]

Why you.... Oh, 3rd line padding

[swift mango]

This game hate me

[strong hull]

Blood-kun

I need 3 defs

[swift mango]

Okay, send box

[strong hull]

Sec.

[still storm]

I'll try for some better lines, but prioritizing attack and ele first

[coarse lake]

if we're talking hit rate vs cs on a mg

hit rate is better, helps mitigate -100% hit rate debuffs (which we'll see in next UR), full uptime mod buff, better aim if you auto

cs does actually nothing

[still storm]

charge damage does nothing as well

[coarse lake]

hit rate is never truly worthless

yeah cs and cd are the ones that are often useless

[still storm]

maybe CD needs to be converted into adaptive multipliers (charge mult for sr/rl and some special weapon change cases, and normal mult for everything else)

Yes I'm aware mg dolls are bricked in that they get 1/4 of a wingman cube's worth of max ammo

[empty shuttle]

Im wondering if these are the right positions for the nikke? Also does the teams look good enough. I dont have Emi Rumani and Noah

[coarse lake]

[empty shuttle]

I have sanis tho. Should i swap Scarlet to 2nd team and put sanis in 3rd?

[coarse lake]

1: absolute trash
2: eh... ok
3: bad

[swift mango]

3 is actually better than 2

[empty shuttle]

[strong hull]

jackal out cp liter rapi naga is a real deal

i do have moran also

[swift mango]

What about hit rate on Cindy?

[coarse lake]

uh

she's rl, so it's useless.... unless rls get nerfed by -100% hitrate?

if so, it's better than useless

[swift mango]

But Cindy misses her shots lots though

[coarse lake]

in a normal situation hit rate shouldn't matter since rl

cindy missing is bc of the stupid targeting

unless hit rate somehow improves the tracking

[swift mango]

So to which you units you have OL and doll on?

[swift mango]

So it improves, trust.

223 and already have Jackal + Noah

[strong hull]

Jack centi noah

Ein also have

[empty shuttle]

Okay. Idk if this this any better but i made every team 3RL. If its still bad then ill just show my deck for people to fix it for me . Im creating more bugs the more i try

[swift mango]

Moran+Crown+Biscuit+Cindy+Anis/Alice

Pepper+Rouge+SBS+Noir+Noah

Ein+Blanc+Liter(MoreHP than Ein)+Centi+Jackal

[strong hull]

Pg punzel aint naway

Ok let see if it can def

[swift mango]

Screenshot old and new CP so I could see...

And change

[strong hull]

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message

Edited a bit

[strong hull]

Alright ill check it

[empty shuttle]

Getting aired

[swift mango]

Removed Purepunzel since you don't like her

#pvp-arena message

[strong hull]

Well not quite dont like

since shes naked tho

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message

Edit another time... I guess I'm out

[strong hull]

Lose not too much

30k lose

Not a problem with me tho

Ok now ill pray for it to work.

[swift mango]

You mean in my edit that's not using purepunzel?

[strong hull]

Yea

[swift mango]

Or with the first one?

[swift mango]

Nvm.

[strong hull]

Time to OL biscuit

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message

my last edit 6 comments ago if you didn't check ..

[strong hull]

Yea i saw you edited

I use the newest one

[swift mango]

Moran+Biscuit+Centi+S.Anis+LaplaceT (your Laplace is with treasure, right?)

Scarlet+Blanc+RH+XMaiden(could put Laplace here if her attack lower than Scarlet and swap XMaiden up)+Jackal

Crown+Pepper+Anis+Cindy+Noir

---

Yeah, I just move the units around because your builds was kinda shit... Sorry to say that...

[swift mango]

Still... It could use some minimal change...

Swap Noir with Pepper

Swap Jackal with Anis... Then move Jackal to p5.

I guess it also work...

[empty shuttle]

Aight. Expected so ill just gonna send my deck

And yeah. Lapalce is treasured

Tbh, i think what i did was the best i could get with what i have. But what do i know

[strong hull]

Blood kun....

Its dead

[swift mango]

Yeah... It's not really good in the first place...

Then changing around doesn't help

[strong hull]

Now i lost the previous comp

[swift mango]

How is your level comparing to the rest of your bracket?

[strong hull]

From top 5 below only 5-10lv diff

[swift mango]

🤔. Screenshot me your team current CP

[misty finch]

Any recs on how to beat this team?

[strong hull]

200k
186k
190k

[swift mango]

How is it comparing to the top 10 I mean.

[strong hull]

Almost the same cp total

Im 590k then theyre 610k

Around that and below

[swift mango]

Your Quantum cube is level 4 above right?

Try this then.

Check CP

[swift mango]

Try

Noise+Blanc+Biscuit+Cindy+Jackal

Or

Noise+Centi+Anis+Cindy+Jackal

Or

SBS+Blanc+RH(need higher HP than SBS so equip Vigor on her if not)+Centi+Jackal.

[swift mango]

You could try @tropic summit

To cook for you

[empty shuttle]

Well... u can also say what was shit about my teams so i can do some debug on them

[orchid birch]

rail is goated

[swift mango]

I already edit your team there.
#pvp-arena message

[empty shuttle]

Oh. I didnt see it. Thanks

Uwait a minute. U just edited it

[swift mango]

Yeah like right after I typed it down

[empty shuttle]

Oke

[swift mango]

Scarlet need Jackal to survive until Blanc burst.

S.Anis need protection for her 10 sec burst, Crown and Jackal are zero protection.

Cindy team is fine

[empty shuttle]

So if i do this. Then i only need a tank for my sanis team, to replace crown right?

[swift mango]

Is your S.Anis 8/x/9 and above in skill?

How her skill looks like?

Sigh

[empty shuttle]

So i need lv8 s1?

[swift mango]

Not really it's just I prefer it to get to 100% reload speed

With resilience cube lv7

[empty shuttle]

Yeah. Res is lv7

[swift mango]

Simple math, need s3lv9 and s1lv8 at least for 100%>

[strong hull]

Alr

When im home

[empty shuttle]

Ah okay. Shouldnt make lots of different i hope

[empty shuttle]

But how about the original question

[swift mango]

... You could use Blanc

Blanc+S.Anis+Biscuit+Pepper+Centi

[empty shuttle]

Then how should i do my scarlet team without blanc?

[swift mango]

Move Crown there and hope you wipe faster than your enemy

[empty shuttle]

Doesn't sounds like a great strategy. I have Bay tho. Can i use her for sanis team?

[swift mango]

Your Bay and Mari are unbuilt though...

Those are good B2 for arena

But CP tanked

[empty shuttle]

Mari, the collab one right?

[swift mango]

Yeah

[empty shuttle]

I have her 555, sr doll and head OL. I just dont put her in the synchro

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Mari+RH+XMaiden+Jackal

[empty shuttle]

i just read Mari's skill. But i dont see how she can be a tank tho

Can u explain how she works?

[swift mango]

She wipe at burst 2. So faster than a B3 wipe at same speed. She help you win some match up that require speed.

Like same speed Scarlet+Blanc

No one is going to kill you if you kill them first.

Offense is best defense

[empty shuttle]

Should i level her skill a little bit more? And OL her arm for more atk?

[swift mango]

All arena units in your team eventually want OL

[empty shuttle]

Alright. Any high level cube is okay right?

[swift mango]

Yea

[empty shuttle]

If i do this then my cp will drop a lot due to no crown...

So ig ill just stick with the crappy 3rd team then

[swift mango]

Swap s.anis with SBS

[empty shuttle]

I got +22k

333k doesnt sound nice

Actually. The average is 380k so 333k is still over 85%

[swift mango]

My bracket must be weirdly sweaty looking at yours...

Hmm

[empty shuttle]

The top 3 spend gems to secure their placements so they are pretty sweaty imo

And the dude at 6th too

[swift mango]

I mean, my bracket were full of those with 1.2m in top 10 at your synch lv311.

And ofc two whales.

[empty shuttle]

That's bc im the highest sync here. People are below 310, some are even beloe 300

[swift mango]

Below 300 then 1m. Above then 1.1-1.2m. above 321 and 1.3m... lower and you can't compete in my for top 6.

Kinda tired with my bracket luck

[empty shuttle]

well glad that im not playing in SEA

[swift mango]

It only getting worse

[empty shuttle]

tbh, i think i should just make my 3rd team a team with just cp. Since i have higher sync level

[swift mango]

Could try

[empty shuttle]

2 passive atk with sbs and anis should be enough to disrupt their burst i hope

[swift mango]

It's cute.... Could work I guess....

[empty shuttle]

Yeah. I think its better than leaving a 333k team. That team will be more of a free win than this one

There is no way to make this team a 2.5RL right? Cuz Moran and Cindy

[swift mango]

If you have high CS then it's possible

[quick lake]

17% cs on RLs

[swift mango]

This team isn't even 3rl as is...

[empty shuttle]

Thats 4 line of each of them

[quick lake]

Oh, even with 17% u cant hit

[empty shuttle]

idk. the calculator says it is 3rl

Ah im derp. I put Laplace instead of Anis

[lunar dirge]

Why should it

17% cs only allows to reach 2,5rl if you're already 3rl

[swift mango]

Yeah if you use 3 quantum lv7

[lunar dirge]

And that's why I think it's overrated

[swift mango]

Yeah, your 3rl team getting wipe by another 3rl team is overrated

[lunar dirge]

Is sp arena nowadays either do 3rl stall

Or 2rl team

[empty shuttle]

17cs for each nikke for just 1?

Also, can i replace Moran in that team with someone else?

[swift mango]

3rl stall will be wipe by 2.5RL wipe always. You can only stall people with no to barely any investment

[quick lake]

2.5RL teams are pretty good because ur B1 will proc even if opponent is running 2RL

[minor kestrel]

Your genius sp arena teams are cooking. Thanks so much

[quick lake]

So Noise and Moran burst, essentially removes their 2RL buffers

[quick lake]

LFGGGGG

[lunar dirge]

even then, it can only work in certain teams and ppl aren't in the mood to waste 50 rocks just to get that

[swift mango]

Yeah, unless the opponent also have CS and burst at 1.65 RL

[quick lake]

Ya definitely

[quick lake]

Its a CS% arms race

[lunar dirge]

That's why I'll just get to 2rl

[swift mango]

Well, if you are defense in a sweaty bracket you will need that to survive.

Attack you don't need it

[lunar dirge]

And PvP investment is like two pointed stick

[swift mango]

Defense is just suck

[lunar dirge]

That's why I said it's not worth it

Make better defence will cost hundreds of rocks

[swift mango]

When people getting sweaty, you can't def unless you out invest them

[lunar dirge]

So you will get clapped not by 3 guys, but by 2 or 1

[empty shuttle]

I should start investing in my pvp

[swift mango]

So long at only 1 guy can clap me, I'm good

2 above and it's trouble.

Especially if they team up and 24/7 login

[lunar dirge]

that's why your PvE is dead as hell

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Hey I'm still top 10% solo raid.

[lunar dirge]

mister 10%y ass

I was doing that shit at 160

[swift mango]

Well, Echo also top 10%

[lunar dirge]

[lunar dirge]

Echo is a victim of his own choices

[swift mango]

You could try creating an account in SEA and do that again.

[empty shuttle]

i was top 4%

hitting 6b at got 4% is a great feeling

[lunar dirge]

ok, if not 2 month to get to 10%, than 4 , if I'll try that now

[swift mango]

If you can do that then I would call you father from now on.

[lunar dirge]

In your defence, I'm global, so I kinda get it

But with 2 month difference if you did minimal PvP invest and got to PvE investing, you would be 3% sr

[swift mango]

Top 4% is still top 10%

[lunar dirge]

And I'm judging you via average sea sr score

[swift mango]

My bracket doesn't have anyone with Frame 3. So I'm good

Not even the whale 75 level above me

Have frame 3.

So I'm not worse off than any of them.

[empty shuttle]

Aktuali its t5%

[swift mango]

Still frame 2

[empty shuttle]

100 extra gems

[swift mango]

Well, just 2 refresh dispatch worth.

Or 1/3 an Anis

[empty shuttle]

[lunar dirge]

Do you know I did my first 3% being aliceless?

[swift mango]

Well, I'm Doro less, XLud less now

[swift mango]

And everyone and their mother having Alice now so it's far different

[lunar dirge]

Still it's a decent feat

[swift mango]

Many people could be Alice less at your time. Now though..

[lunar dirge]

Not really, if you have to go to top, you have to fight will older ppl who have her build, my ass back then...

[swift mango]

And 2 months in your Alice would still shit anyway. It pointless to say.

Right now you need lots investment to even compete.

Pulling Crown off rate.

Pulling SbS off rate.

Pulling RH. Off rate.

Pulling Ein off rate.

Rouge, Doro and so on...

When you started, the bar was not as high as now

Alice is the matter of investment. But other units are matter of luck

Even Whale could have shit luck and can't get SBS for example.

When you started there wasn't even SBS

Most of the limited time and off rate necessary came months after you started anyway

Crown, Grave, SBS, Xlud, Mari, Ein, Quency, Cindy, B.Soda, Rouge...

New player just can't compete now

[tropic summit]

[quick lake]

Yeah. Very hard to get off-banner pilgrims

Case in point, Noah eluded me for 2 years

[tropic summit]

new players now have to get so many meta nikke... let alone building the treasured ones

the only good thing is that they've pilgrim wishlist unlike older accounts who lived without

[quick lake]

Honestly, no crown is pretty bricked

no SBS too

[orchid birch]

like me just hit

[swift mango]

Like I said, even in global, let alone SEA, if a F2P can get to 3% in 2 months starting now then I call them granpa.

Unless they reroll like crazy.

In Rapipi banner right now then they had a chance. tiny chance.

Tiny tiny chance

For global maybe

[orchid birch]

I’m no longer an f2p I think in the right hands it woulda been doable on my account

genuinely

[swift mango]

2 months old account? This is good time for a 2 months old account if you were lucky and invest wisely enough.

You could have Grave, Cindy, Xlud and SBS, Rapipi so pretty good standing

[orchid birch]

I’m near that? I think

[quick lake]

The gap between new players and old players can never be closed tbh

[orchid birch]

mhm

unless the new players are gigawhales and have a way to turn back time for collab units

[tropic summit]

i wonder if i'll ever reach max synch... maybe in 1 year and a half?

[orchid birch]

also rail we might need to change smth later on my arena def, I dropped to d1 when I knocked out

[swift mango]

Max synch? They increased with every nikke released.

So you need Core +7 everyone to reach max synch. So like never for F2P.

[quick lake]

Day 1 players almost at 501

[tropic summit]

sure, it's been a while since we last touched ur def

[orchid birch]

yea I didn’t sleep yesterday so

after I got off work I knocked out for 11 hrs

[tropic summit]

an impossible dream then

[orchid birch]

I ate pizza and

[tropic summit]

take better care of yourself

[quick lake]

If u’re an existing player, eventually u will have most OG units core7, with many SR5/10/15 dolls if played long enough

[orchid birch]

I was rereading pick me up and caught up

[swift mango]

You won't.

You just can't max pull every new banner.

The level gap will always there.

Only whale can max pull every nikke day 1

[tropic summit]

[swift mango]

So they could reach max synch for 14 days.

[quick lake]

Yeah, i mean as in, the older units like Poli/Centi etc

U’ll gradually getting more dupes, slowly but surely

[tropic summit]

my highest core is +2

[orchid birch]

ok I’m off to work again I’ll talk more abt arena w ya later noah when

[tropic summit]

got get em, good luck

noah will come this year, unspecified on which day tho

[radiant storm]

Any team Recommendations for Pvp Helm with Treasure?

[quick lake]

Helm should fit in almost everywhere. Just a good universal battery

[tropic summit]

here you go, 3 variants

teams are standalone, it's 3 different examples

scarlet indomless single buff
cindy buffed nuke 2RL
scarlet with indom single buff

[radiant storm]

Can't seem to fit her to my team atm

[tropic summit]

post your 3 teams

[tropic summit]

hmm let's see

[tropic summit]

hmm T1 badly need to be reviewed, T2 is single target with a lot of feeding, T3 is the only ok-ish

post your box and let's see what can be arranged

[scarlet tiger]

Which hard stage are you in right now?

[radiant storm]

My T1 can easily win a slow team Cindy with Biscuit with it

[radiant storm]

32-1, gonna wait 501 to blitz to 34 hardmode

[tropic summit]

it's unbuffed scarlet on 492 synch, you're not gonna kill anything that is actually properly set up

[quick lake]

U need a pvp team review/change

[tropic summit]

i mean you're free to run w/e you want obviously, but if we are to give you recommendation, that's one of the first things anyone would point out

[quick lake]

Just keep things simple
Scarlet Blanc RH Emilia Jackal
Noah Centi Biscuit Cindy Noise
3rd can be anything

[swift mango]

Same. And it's the Opera girl.

[tropic summit]

opponents must be really bad, the dream for any peaceful folk

[radiant storm]

Don't have Rumani

[quick lake]

Edited

[swift mango]

I think Arena become more popular now because SR just becoming too hard for new players. So they option to get more gem in Arena instead

[radiant storm]

Is Cindy really that good with Noise plus Biscuit, Have only run S. Anis with Biscuit cuz Cindy has delay damage

[tropic summit]

noise buffs cindy dmg, biscuit just helps stalling

cindy dmg is divided in 2 parts, the first part is snapshotted dmg, it will hit even through invulnerability as long as it was cast before it, second part is calculated afterward

[quick lake]

Yep! Cindy is great because u dont need to run 2 buffers. Dmg is just slightly delayed

[swift mango]

But if they do powercreep like current patch to Arena more often it would also become too hard for new players soon when CA come with whole server fight together like SR...

Still SpA still always give better gem than SR

[tropic summit]

whole server fight

[swift mango]

Just like solo raid....

[tropic summit]

image fighting hayden's teams

[quick lake]

I really think they put the good pvp players tgt say real

[swift mango]

New players getting fk just like SR.

[quick lake]

My SPA is actually sweaty sometimes

[tropic summit]

global rankings regardless of account date creation is one of the dumbest things i've seen

surely they won't repeat it

[quick lake]

Idk how my peers have such easy opponents

[swift mango]

You have everyone and 17%CS, you having one of the best possible roster for Arena.

[tropic summit]

they never left their bubble and never got informed, plus since noone is beating them they can't even realize there's better

the price of literally having no competition is stagnation

CA will open some ppl eyes for sure

[quick lake]

Like my top 6 buy core dusts + max core everyone then there’s me

There’s only 2 non-whales in my top 10

[swift mango]

Well, you still have strong roster so you should still win

[quick lake]

Yeah, just need to keep changing teams

[swift mango]

So long as they don't out level you by 60+

You will be fine

[radiant storm]

Plus the T2, Rh will get the Indo, plus she has 127% Elem which is good against electric opposite

[tropic summit]

@copper creek what did i miss i look away 3 seconds

[copper creek]

ill send to rps

[pale knoll]

@copper creek pretty sure it was shared on livestream no?

[copper creek]

no its not, there is no such content to my knowledge

[pale knoll]

Or dev notes

[copper creek]

no, dev notes only said 5 team

[pale knoll]

Welp

[copper creek]

anyway lets move on please dont get me into trouble

[swift mango]

He said, CA being synch locked... But this is already what everyone assumed. And that's all I he reason new players having to fight older player with max core and max skill and tons of more rocks farmed getting f

[radiant storm]

This is why I can't use Cindy

[tropic summit]

oh i didn't miss any relevant meme then phew

[swift mango]

New players just can't compete because it's synch lock

Even Whale will be beat up.

Until they whale long enough

They still can't get their hand on Emilia

So need like 5 more helm for newer whale to catch up with older whale

[radiant storm]

Emilia nuke still good in Sp, but I use her for Burst Gen

[tropic summit]

if you're convinced indom RH is a safety measure, you'll be surprised once you find out there's a p1 defender + biscuit

[radiant storm]

I already know this, that's why the Top 1 has no S. Anis plus Biscuit

But instead S. Anis only, so I can c'd his S. Anis team

[tropic summit]

then again if you're not being beaten with those defs teams, you probably don't need help

your opponents are non pvpers

stick helm to any team you can promote to 2RL or 2.5RL

until they actually bother informing themselves, you'll be fine

[swift mango]

RH can sometime shot everywhere and ignore taunt.

Rare though

Haven't happened to me for months

[tropic summit]

these are the upgrdes you could do with your as-is teams

[swift mango]

But I remember RH just my whole team after Moran taunt and got Blanced. in the earlier days...

[tropic summit]

yeah but shooting range can prevent that 100% from happening iirc

although i've seen it myself months back

[quick lake]

How does unbuffed scar work nowadays

[tropic summit]

and on 492 synch rate

they probably running emilia on p1 or unprotected p1s with shotguns? iunno

[swift mango]

My whale 40 lv higher than me with unbuffed Scarlet can't kill anyone in my team

[quick lake]

Hmm maybe

[copper creek]

it doesn't

[quick lake]

Yeah, it shouldnt

[tropic summit]

unbuffed scarlet on elem weakness crit might still have a remote chance to kill an emi

[swift mango]

I think I saw Rail using unbuffed Scar 1rl to wipe enemies before.

[tropic summit]

but that's as far as i'd guess

[tropic summit]

yeah this one

although it's probably contribution from laplace and the enemy jackal link, only emi would've been 1hitko

cindy survived for example

[quick lake]

Excited to hear Keripo’s analysis on T.Helm

[tropic summit]

TL;DR version: broken shiet, get that and slap her in any team

[swift mango]

0% CS helm is better than his 25% Emi.

Too much power creep

[tropic summit]

HelmT might also set a precedent, perhaps we'll get more down the line

[quick lake]

SPA gonna be 3x 2RL teams

[swift mango]

Soon

[covert lintel]

too many new updated char, so analysis take time

[swift mango]

You could actually do that rn...

[tropic summit]

i mean as of right now you can do 2 2RL teams and 1 3RL without adding CS%, with CS% you probably can 2 2RL and 1 2.5RL

oh actually with emi21 you can do 3 2RL 🤔

[swift mango]

As of right now you can do 3 2rl team without any CS...

[quick lake]

I think u can get to 3x 2RL if u have 25%cs Emi

[tropic summit]

with shotguns i guess?

[swift mango]

Yeah

[quick lake]

I can run 2 2RL and 1 2.5RL without Emilia

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Grave+Pepper+Centi+Jackal

Cindy+3Clip RL

HELM+1 CLIP RL

3X2RL TEAM

[tropic summit]

what am I missing

[covert lintel]

i think noah pepper emilia biscuit drake can be 2RL

[swift mango]

Scarlet team doesn't need Helm

[quick lake]

Yeah, with feed its 2RL

[tropic summit]

oh the feed

[quick lake]

Thats kinda broken

The uninformed pvp-er will be dead

[swift mango]

You can't use Blanc either but need grave or Anne

[tropic summit]

oh scratch biscuit on p1

[quick lake]

U could do T3 Rosanna + SG as well for 2RL

[swift mango]

No Rumani in this board

[quick lake]

Helm breaks SPA

[tropic summit]

hmm i don't like T3 through

[tropic summit]

the SG spam

[radiant storm]

Or Pos 5 Sg

[tropic summit]

punished for not running biscuit on a stall team, bad opponent

[quick lake]

Looks like a 3RL team. Nice!

[swift mango]

You can only have 1 biscuit

[radiant storm]

His Cp is 3.4m

[swift mango]

[radiant storm]

Exactly

[tropic summit]

i'd never run noah and s.anis without biscuit

[radiant storm]

He runs Biscuit with Emilia comp

[quick lake]

I usually run without

[radiant storm]

So I have a Leisure to try Rh as B3

[tropic summit]

you guys are daring

[swift mango]

Attack always win against defense...

Defense gonna get fk

[radiant storm]

Blanc, Emilia, Rh, Biscuit, Centi/Sg

[quick lake]

My whale spent 6 attempts to break my defence. I count that as a win pretty sure he just cp diffed one of them

[radiant storm]

Is his team

[covert lintel]

default team like me

[tropic summit]

with biscuit and noah you counter single target indoms and SBS
with indom emi you force opponent to use noah

but here, biscuitless noah allows SBS and single target indoms
emi with biscuit allows scarlet to kill emi pre burst

i think you'd want to lower those chances

[quick lake]

My Rosanna + Mari will snipe

[swift mango]

My last def held for 10 days .... Need to build helm or pull Noah before I could held against....

[tropic summit]

at least chances for an invested rosanna are lower

[tropic summit]

noah in 2025 for blood

[radiant storm]

I usually run Tia, Noise, Biscuit, S. Anis, Flex if there's a Noah, Biscuit, S. Anis opposite

Wins everytime

[swift mango]

2027 when they give out free Noah for everyone m

[tropic summit]

nikke 2.0 at that point

[quick lake]

Free Noah for everyone when CA drops

[swift mango]

In 2028

[tropic summit]

so something like this?

[covert lintel]

buy noah's spare body first, she will come later

[swift mango]

My only hope is saving for Pligrim mold and pull 10 at once.

Should have done that since beginning...

Now I doubt I could get to 10 anytime soon
..

[radiant storm]

Copium team comp

[quick lake]

She’ll come home eventually

[radiant storm]

This

[swift mango]

My first 8 Pligrim molds gave me 2 Scarlet dupes.

Should have saved them and pull at once

Rather than one by one

[quick lake]

Got a Isabel dupe recently

[covert lintel]

i plan to save too until siren

[swift mango]

So long as you aren't 25% rate for 50% mold you are better than me.

[radiant storm]

This is my rolls for my S. Anis

[quick lake]

Damn. Really solid

[tropic summit]

40 atk%+ s.anis

[radiant storm]

Both in Sp, Rookie

That guy is top 1 😒

[radiant storm]

Needs to change the body

[tropic summit]

you could defend against them if you fixed your teams

[radiant storm]

So I can 5.8b Mirror Container

[quick lake]

Ah yes, MC

[tropic summit]

PTSD?

[quick lake]

Just reached MC hard, gonna be stuck for a while

Im decently casual in hard campaign

[tropic summit]

i'm on par with my chinese malder peer

[radiant storm]

Same, Im 32-1, free 2 play,
Just need to get 501

[tropic summit]

whales are slightly ahead of either 1 or 2 chapters

[quick lake]

501 when new chapters drop

[swift mango]

I'm stuck at 20 hard boss... Too lazy to mald...

Maybe I will try after getting to 341

My OL are mostly CP pad anyway

Not really optimal

[radiant storm]

Global Server

[radiant storm]

Rh Stats, still need to reroll

[quick lake]

Another whale starting gemming against me

[tropic summit]

is that def with HelmT tho?

bet you still got cards to play

[quick lake]

Yeah

[strong hull]

Im holding box rn

[tropic summit]

so many blue lines

[strong hull]

I dont want to use them

Actually i cant

[tropic summit]

echo syndrome is spreading

[strong hull]

No like

I dont have enough battle data

Holy shit

[tropic summit]

now BD at my synch is the least lacking resource i've

it's mainly red dust lacking 🤔

[rustic sandal]

About the characters used in the arena. What is the preferred option for overloading?

Please tell us about each character.

[tropic summit]

for most B3s and nikke damage oriented, atk% and elem.atk
for batteries (rumani/centi/jackal) you want CS% and atk%
for very few specific characters, you may benefit even from def% lines (nero, moran)

you can use this for each specific nikke

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/overload-gear-recommendations

[rustic sandal]

thanks so much!

[lunar dirge]

24-34 stuck

[quick lake]

Ew stages

[lunar dirge]

sure thing

pve bricker

[tropic summit]

i'm on same progress as my peers even with bricks

(minus the whales)

25% deficit MW hardmode clear with laplace+ and unbuilt modernia, never again

my RH wanted to kill me and my unborn children

[lunar dirge]

try repeating my 23-19 clear

but 30 fps

[swift mango]

When did you started to be stuck at map 24

I remember November 2023?

[lunar dirge]

7 farter base defence stage

[tropic summit]

farters are the most cockblockers in the game

[lunar dirge]

i'll just

show you a vid

[tropic summit]

if satan had an incarnation in nikke, it would be them

[lunar dirge]

rate the digut of this stage

[swift mango]

Guess you didn't squeeze enough

[lunar dirge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8_AYqLgUYM

i'll try soon

my rh damage is lower than his

[tropic summit]

even with pause abuse it isn't enough

[lunar dirge]

due to using dkw and me rapipi

[graceful grotto]

Lmao we stucked at the same boss

[lunar dirge]

beat this you filthy casual

[tropic summit]

whoever designed that stage didn't lead an happy life

[covert lintel]

iirc i cleared this with alice and scar

[graceful grotto]

bruh wtheck

but he's synchro 360+ only jesus, dude is malding hard

[quick lake]

Wow! That looks like 60FPS gameplay that I do not enjoy

[lunar dirge]

me too

[lunar dirge]

i'm 30

[covert lintel]

not the stage, but that bronchus rapture.
i hate so much with his fart atk

[tropic summit]

oh ye, very understandable. Dumbest mob, can't iframe, can't cover, forces you to speedrun

[lunar dirge]

you mean silencer?

[covert lintel]

this guy

[lunar dirge]

i'm well aware of it

for me silencer is far worse tho

this bch

especially when he manages to shit out 10+ mobs

[quick lake]

Silencer worst

[covert lintel]

oh that does spawn mob?
i think that is ez, just bring RL packed with lot of cs to kill quickly

[lunar dirge]

that's ez for you

try 30%+ deficit

[graceful grotto]

silencer? as in that b that prevent u from bursting?

[lunar dirge]

yes