pvp-arena

[strong hull]

When crown dead

[lunar dirge]

as long as you kill p1 and your crown dies

[strong hull]

[lunar dirge]

so,be sure to be fighting against inprotected p1's or solo tank noise

[strong hull]

Got it

[lunar dirge]

in fact,it might win against god comp sbs without biscu if lucky enough

but those 3 were at 5% hp

[strong hull]

[lunar dirge]

it took rapu stun to win it

[swift mango]

Noise+Crown Sacr, don't try at home.

[lunar dirge]

try it at home

it's fun

and goofy

[strong hull]

ill try it

The golden nuke one actually not that bad tho

[lunar dirge]

see unprotected p1=slam it

[swift mango]

It enemy dependant. So good luck

[lunar dirge]

as long as it kills 2 rl cindy,i'm good

[swift mango]

Gl

Not way in hell that team kill 2rl cindy

Lol

Unless, Noise putting at p1 without Jackal link and being unbuilt paper thin.

Without another b1

[lunar dirge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmrkHebsbac

[swift mango]

Yeah, basically what I said, sole p1 unbuilt paper thin

[lunar dirge]

30%atk on naga and s.anis buffed by crown's s2 from rapu

it will die,i have those 2 killing noise in 2 rl

[swift mango]

Not everyone build their team that bad.

[lunar dirge]

gotta make a use of my solo raid investments

[swift mango]

If they wanted to put Rumani p1 they will need at least SR5 and Tempering.

But ofc some people are just that bad.

[lunar dirge]

this team is 520k tho at 355,so i think they're pretty buiilt

[covert lintel]

gacha this is the same u gacha pilgrim

[swift mango]

We won't know how their Rumani look like but ofc it's bad to put lone b1-2-3 at p1.

[lunar dirge]

if they do 2 b2 2rl cindy,aka anis centi rumani cindy emi,i'll use the blanc sbs start earlier,but put temp cube on sbs

[swift mango]

Blanc+SBS would be hard pressed to hit 2rl tbh... Unless you use Jackal

[lunar dirge]

empty p2=4rl

anis drops cp hard enough to not get affected

too much

[swift mango]

Well, empty p2 ofc.

[cold steeple]

Can someone help me with this team, it seems like my bland indomitable is not on Emilia

I’ve used my scarlet on another team

[quick lake]

Blanc applies indom to lowest HP unit. Opponent's SG units will attack ur P5 which is Anis. So Anis can unintentionally get the indom

[swift mango]

Anis low HP. Getting shoot by Pepper.

[cold steeple]

I see, in this case, should I move my Emilia to P5?

[umbral crown]

Scar jack

[swift mango]

Doesn't work

[cold steeple]

Used to counter another team

[quick lake]

Yeah, in this case better to change the lineup completely. Using scarjack to take advantage of jackal feed and opponent's SGs

[umbral crown]

But whats the other team?

[cold steeple]

Give me a sec

[umbral crown]

Given 2 sec

[cold steeple]

Third team cp is too high for me counter so I decide to focus on team 1 and 2

[umbral crown]

Blood as the new pvp generation players representative, will cook for you

[cold steeple]

[swift mango]

There are many error for this match to work.

Anis HP is low even with investment so even if she got biscuit she could still have lower HP than Emi.

Biscuit could likely have lower DEF than Emi if you didn't invest enough in her. This Eating SBS s1 and got lower HP than Emi as well.

Better not using this match up for attack.

Unless you know your team well and math it yourselves.

[cold steeple]

I see

[swift mango]

You should cook sometime

[swift mango]

Hmmm could you post your box?

[cold steeple]

Yea sure

Is it possible if I just swap Noah to team 1 and change Noah to centi in team 2?

[swift mango]

On another thought, you could just swap Blanc and Noah from the 2 team and it should world.

Then you could swap Anis out for Crown.

[cold steeple]

Can I ask why Crown? Is it to slow the burst gen speed?

[swift mango]

Crown to give her s1+2 buff for Emi. But you should be fine without maybe.

You could also burst with RH instead in this case.

[swift mango]

So

Noah+Biscuit+RH+Emi+Anis

For the first team.

Scarlet+Blanc+LapT+Rumani+Jackal for 2nd.

[cold steeple]

But swapping blanc into my scarlet team wouldn’t it caused my scarlet 2RL nuke to become 3RL?

[swift mango]

ASS feed is enough for it to be at least 2.5rl

[cold steeple]

Ahh I see

[swift mango]

If you want to be more sure swap Emi and LapT

[swift mango]

Check CP though.

[cold steeple]

Ez win

Thanks @swift mango

[swift mango]

Tbf, I even used a lv1 p2 for defense. Thank f, I have high CP for my level not many people in my bracket know how to counter it.

[wary wraith]

any suggestion against this team please?

[swift mango]

This team is pretty hard to beat tbh.

It should be a rookie team so you could use many tries to hit it.

[upper grove]

rest of my bracket is slacking campaign, they are 3-4 chapters behind or stuck at MC

[lone sequoia]

rapi+noah+speed+heals

[swift mango]

You could also try

Emi+Blanc+RH+Crown+Jackal

But we don't even know your level, left alone box

[swift mango]

Also, if I'm right and Jackal is linked to Emi+Biscuit then this would be win with Scarlet+Centi+RH+Emi/Rum/Anis+Jackal. Assuming similar CP and Level.

[covert lintel]

if it's me, bang it with rosanna

[swift mango]

@umbral crown

Well, now that I think about it. You wouldn't have to worry about bricking Campaign team if CA comes with everyone synched to lv400.... And could freely invest into Arena units only....

[swift mango]

Even if you could kill Emi and Biscuit. Cindy could still nuke you though... And not everyone has Rosa invested.

[lone sequoia]

sync and cp debuff is a core mechanic

you still need +5 really good units to push campaign*

[swift mango]

Like SR boss, you don't have to worry much about synch level, just how much you invested into SR units.

[covert lintel]

noah and emi would be dead, and even jackal
the rest would be dead by scarlet

[swift mango]

Biscuit.

[covert lintel]

i know, but my rosanna burst won't make opponent biscuit active her s2

[swift mango]

I mean Noah already invulnerable by biscuit.

And Rossana shot at link could make Jackal invulnerable as well.

Then they would burst with what's left.

[covert lintel]

like i said above, it won't active that invulnerable/s2 biscuit

[umbral crown]

that would be amazing

[umbral crown]

i do really tbh, im kinda rusty with pvp lastly since i do not have any action

[shell hazel]

sorry if I missed it but don't think i saw an answer, what should I use for cubes for my pvp units?
#pvp-arena message
I am mostly at 2 of each cube, except resi/bastion I have 4. I don't have temperance yet (not at that stage in the game)

I've laid out the cubes in use, some I considered a bit, others are whatever I had lying about 😄

[wary wraith]

just assume i have most arena units raised, and i'm 495 sync

[quick lake]

Priority is resilience to 7/10/13 as its the best campaign cube. Generally cubes dont matter that much in pvp for now

[shell hazel]

but should I put the new ones I got on, healing + endurance? I am focus on resi and bastion for now in terms of upgrades

[quick lake]

For pvp specifically, quantum, temperance and vigor are good choices

[shell hazel]

vigor I put on naga and volume
quantum on centi and jackal

I use Naga in my PVE so don't want to remove it from her

[quick lake]

Honestly, effect is too small to be very significant.

Generally, Vigor on Cindy, Temperance on Noise/Noah
Resilience on SAnis
Quantum on Jackal/Centi/Rumani

[shell hazel]

aight, guess I'll wait until I get temperance unlocked

[quick lake]

If u dont have enough slots, just resilience everyone

[shell hazel]

gotta keep resi on my main dps I think

[quick lake]

Yep! U’ll get more slots eventually

[shell hazel]

yeah 🙂

[wary wraith]

lol this was scary but it worked out, thanks

oh RIP it's not guaranteed win

[lone sequoia]

noah link?

[umbral crown]

lv5 forevah

[glad meteor]

Cindy and emi I think

[whole pawn]

is it necessary to put cubes on units? I mean most of them can resilience but less actually uses it

[glad meteor]

Helps combat power

At the very least

[tropic summit]

vigor can sometimes dictate if you live or not, same with temperance
quantum can help you hit RL thresholds
resil is actually needed on s.anis
there are other situational variations

[whole pawn]

what if I don't use any ?

[tropic summit]

why should you not use them? i mean if you lack them altogether that's fine, but if they're sitting there gathering dust use them

[whole pawn]

mmmm

[keen vapor]

I'll use Adjutant on RH now

[whole pawn]

I need a guide for that

[strong hull]

Echo

I want to use Flora in pvp

[keen vapor]

Have mercy

[strong hull]

[keen vapor]

Rosanna/Flora/Ein/Centi/Jackal

[strong hull]

[keen vapor]

Laplace is a faster option

Than Ein

[strong hull]

Yea but ein more suitable

[tropic summit]

stall with moran and let SBS wipe, with flora healing the taunter

[strong hull]

Was thinking about it actually

This gonna be fun

[keen vapor]

I checked calc, is the same actually

[strong hull]

In case no ros

Can i use

Crown?

[keen vapor]

No

[lunar dirge]

stawp

[tropic summit]

🤨

[lunar dirge]

or i'll send you both into the basement

[strong hull]

Its burned

[keen vapor]

Speed is the same but we waste a B1

[strong hull]

[tropic summit]

might aswell just run xmaiden then

[keen vapor]

Flora can buff Ein already

[keen vapor]

If you're going to cook, use a B1

[lunar dirge]

like

[strong hull]

Rumani

[lunar dirge]

guys,flora buff as much as mari

so not wirth it

[keen vapor]

So much

[lunar dirge]

and true damage only

[strong hull]

So so

[tropic summit]

if we had more true damage dealers 🤔

[lunar dirge]

just use mari at that point,or blanc

[strong hull]

Golden zapping flora + ein

[lunar dirge]

golden shit aka adhd

[strong hull]

No shit ill do this

Gb kitchen

[tropic summit]

the man is on a mission

[lunar dirge]

the toilet is gonna be worse even after 1 bite of taco bell

[lunar dirge]

i mean,i did crown cook,seems like he got inspired by me a bit

[strong hull]

Cant stop me now ima going to OL flora

[lunar dirge]

brick by brick

[ashen ocean]

when will SU fix the "disconnected from server" issue in Arena, it's getting annoying

[grizzled bone]

probably same time CA gets released

[kindred tinsel]

guys is placement for sp arena ending this reset

[keen vapor]

No

It still has a couple of days

[tropic summit]

you can check it from SP arena main screen, it shows you the Days and Hours left

[kindred tinsel]

when is it i noticed i get less gems getting better placment on the last day

[tropic summit]

you get gems based on your final points gathered, even if you don't claim on the last day, the points leftover will be counted

[kindred tinsel]

this is what i mean btw

[tropic summit]

because the points accumulated weren't enough to score you as higher

if you keep ch1 for 14 days and 1 day you're suddenly diamond 6, you still get ch1 reward, because of points accumulated

[kindred tinsel]

oo so you get rewarded for consistent placement

[tropic summit]

aye

you need to retain your rank as high as possible, for as long as possible

[grizzled bone]

which makes gemming not worth if it you're going for net gem income

[shell hazel]

it's time spent at rank

you get points for that, so you can't get someone come and knock you off spot 1 last minute

as railtracer said if you spend most of the time at rank 1 then you'll likely end at rank 1 due to time spent there even if you afk the last day 😛

[kindred tinsel]

dang i stopped taking pvp seriously for a few days so i doubt im in dia rn

[tropic summit]

depends on how lower you've fallen just check points earned per hour

[kindred tinsel]

does tracking this tell you anything?

[tropic summit]

click on ranking, bottom right, click on point ranking, check your rank

[kindred tinsel]

yoo ty this helps

one more thing

cant beat this guy right now ever since i started countering him he copied my comp and ive been losing ever since

i cant figure out why since replay bug

[tropic summit]

your noise probably died pre burst

[glad meteor]

Scar blanc liter centi jack team 3

[tropic summit]

T1 you're hard countering SBS with defender and biscuit, but T3 if your noise dies, your chain falls

[shell hazel]

railtracer almost got my teams to 180K! 🙂

pre-221 anyway, not sure how much CP 221 adds

[tropic summit]

yep looking good, we gonna need to work on that T3 once you get those nikke we mentioned

[shell hazel]

I'm probably next pulling for units in Eva collab

hope for some then, otherwise it's random 10 pulls on ordinary when I get 10 tickets or social points 🙂

i'm OL Scarlet some and will get her to 4/4/6 tomorrow

[kindred tinsel]

hmm yeah also think he was autoing my jackal team once it became invested he started losing then switched and started using maiden

could this switch work instead

[tropic summit]

if you want to play nuke against a fellow scarlet, you'll want to be at least 2.5RL, both teams are 3RL

although that's a single buff scarlet, you might survive with cindy post nuke

you can give it a shot

[jagged mesa]

how is it for rookie arena, i always get beat by the same people i beat when they fight me

does anybody know how it works

also how come for hte past several days, i cant get a single sp arena match to go through without failing to sync info

[tropic summit]

defense teams are eaiser to counter than when you attack

[kindred tinsel]

defense = counter

[tropic summit]

it's open cards vs hidden cards

[keen vapor]

I discovered today that I can enable Emi21 at will with Adjutant...

[jagged mesa]

oh shoot how have i never noticed that rookie arena also has a defense team.... i thought it was the same. you guys just saved my pvp profile im so dumb

[keen vapor]

I can cook both sides

[keen vapor]

I put level 1 defense on purpose

[jagged mesa]

i finished last season as rank 1 so i never even bothered to check, but i just realized i keep getting cooked on defense

lmfao thanks

[shell hazel]

if you lose def then I guess it gives you easier attacks

[keen vapor]

Right, I synch'd Rei just today

[shell hazel]

guy who took 2nd off me in sp arena earlier on is now sat in 14th

wild lol

[keen vapor]

Your bracket is scary

[shell hazel]

yeah it is 😄

can go a while without changes then see everyone trying to grab higher positions all at once

[kindred tinsel]

sigh i want to take him out he goes on a losing streak to me

[upper grove]

Hmm I could outlevel my bracket by 15-20 lvls if I spend my saved core dust and push (hard) campaign further, is it worth?

[kindred tinsel]

game keeps crashing

[keen vapor]

You're using PC client?

[kindred tinsel]

yeah

[copper creek]

try to repair

[kindred tinsel]

i fixed it

[lunar dirge]

both are equally uncooked

[kindred tinsel]

also i think the bug is gone heres the video btw

[keen vapor]

Nande?!

[lunar dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-laughing-gif-lol-funny-loud-laugh-gif-7926424135311815001

[kindred tinsel]

@keen vapor good roll for Emilia? i wish to be unbricked in pvp

[tropic summit]

you need charge speed, atk% and elem. dmg, if anything you can lock 3rd line

[kindred tinsel]

[drifting hazel]

Dam even after Noah blocked my Scar burst

[dusty estuary]

I've been doing PVP on my own for a long time, but now I'd like to see if there's anywhere I can improve my teams. Could someone please offer any feedback / changes?

[tropic summit]

buffless scarlet and p1 biscuit...

i think it's safe to say you can improve these teams

i'm gonna take a look at your roster

[tropic summit]

scarlet grave rh xmaiden jackal - ensure scarlet is at least 2nd highest atk% in the team
naga rumani cind anis alice - ensure rumani has OL'ed body
blanc sbs centi biscuit noise - ensure other nikke have higher max HP than SBS, else give them a vigor cube

cubes:

quantum on jackal, anis, rumani, centi
vigor on blanc, biscuit, noise
anyone else run highest available cube

notes:

wishlist/build asap rapunzel/noah, then get your teams reviewed to improve them

[grizzled bone]

as well:

• taunter (noise) in p4
• single b2 (centi) in p1

[tropic summit]

yeah i stopped looking already at the first two

[grizzled bone]

@dusty estuary have you looked at resources for pvp mechanics?

[dusty estuary]

that is amazing advice. thank you so much for the detailed feedback. should I run that first team as my arena team? scarlet grave rh xmaiden jackal

[dusty estuary]

I read a few PVP guides when I started playing, but it seemed like the information was all over the place. I'd be happy to look at any recommendations

[tropic summit]

ah for rookie? you've 2 options i'd rotate (if one starts losing)

scarlet blanc rh xmaiden jackal
centi rumani cind anis jackal

[grizzled bone]

you should keep targeting in mind when making teams

[dusty estuary]

I really appreciate this. thank you again so much

[grizzled bone]

this is how normal targeting behaviour works (i.e. excludes attract/taunt)

[tropic summit]

you welcome, as caishen suggested a good read at the material can enhance your personal knowledge and help you see these "mistakes" on your own aswell

[grizzled bone]

oh these are attack teams too...

@tropic summit did you catch that?

[tropic summit]

@dusty estuary attack teams should be tailored based on your opponents, those can work on attack aswell as long as you know where and when you using them

[grizzled bone]

e.g. using Scarlet against shotgun units

[dusty estuary]

thank you kindly. I see the resources pinned here in the channel. I will start over from the beginning and read them all. thank you again

[grizzled bone]

that sceenshot is from the prydwen guide btw

[dusty estuary]

this is excellent. thank you

[keen vapor]

WHY

[warped cedar]

If I wanted to build an attack team to counter this, how would I go about it? I recognize that Team 1 is a Scarlet burst team, Team 2 is a Noah Team, and Team 3 is a Blanc Indom Emelia team and trying to run similar teams against them nets me a loss

[grizzled bone]

in what way were you running similar teams?

[fickle swift]

Probably run Noah Biscuit S. Anis against the first team and Drunk Scarlet to the third team

[wise horizon]

Looks ok? @tropic summit

[glad meteor]

T1 loses?

looks like they want liter to die to scar so ros can get burst gen

[warped cedar]

Scarlet burst team vs Scarlet burst, Noah team vs Noah Team, the 3rd team I tried both a blanc team as well as just a throwaway team but couldn't win 2/3

[umbral crown]

Rosanna P1

[raven plover]

I feel like ros gonna die first since shes p2, RL splash. also atker vs sup, and thats c7 liter

[keen vapor]

What :pepeh:

[umbral crown]

[grizzled bone]

Using same teams against each other is generally a bad idea because you're just trying to out gun them with better investments. In short, it's unreliable and, you can fight smarter by tailoring your attack teams against their defense teams

E.g. why wouldn't use Scarlet against ASS instead?

[glad meteor]

i think because Ros has windup, sus comp though

[rich quail]

I would say demote him
But he literally is already at the lowest rank possible

I think it’s time for cd case penalties

[grizzled bone]

He's in the middle rank. He could go lower

[keen vapor]

I believe that Malogro has big charge speed

[swift mango]

Yeah, it's investment dependent

In case you have a bit higher investment than them I guess...

This went through Noise buff, centi shield and one shot Cindy.

[swift mango]

Either that or Jackal feed.

[glad meteor]

Jackal and cindy have same number next to the shield in their pic. So i assume their jackal linked and they got biscuit s2

[swift mango]

Only one of them can get biscuit because Noah already got one. And it's not a problem normally for Emi to kill what's left.

Idk why shield mattered but okay... It's weird that either core 6 Biscuit or Emi had lower ATK than MLB Cindy though... But maybe possible with different investments...

[glad meteor]

I use the number next to the shield in stat logs to see jackal link, if they don’t send video

I stopped using emi blanc against biscuit jackal, it’s inconsistent as a counter

Cindirella is usually more invested, people are expected to get atk ele max ammo making it more likely for cindy to be linked against supporters

[swift mango]

Yeah, you are right. Their Emi wasn't strong enough to trigger Biscuit on Noah. So both Jackal and Cindy survived at the end.

[glad meteor]

Cindy biscuit jackal is why I started hoping bay would work, and she does thanfully

A comp forcing noah for counter is always rough

Though

Emi blanc rh ros jackal should be viable to remove damage share so one shots can go through, but only double buffer

[swift mango]

Well, in my case, if the dude in the Video changed to Jackal link he would still lose. My Emi is strong enough to clear his half HP in 3-4 shots before indom ended.

[swift mango]

Yeah you are right.... This should be better. My bad.

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

I haven’t tested double buffer emi in a while, stuck with crown variant for a long time

[swift mango]

@wary wraith Maybe you could try this

[keen vapor]

This can't feed bc

1: No feed weapons
2: Everyone targets P1, and link is with Naga/RH

[glad meteor]

Noise taunt prio?

[swift mango]

Did they target Noise ?

[glad meteor]

I gotta ask

[keen vapor]

It doesn't seems like it....

[swift mango]

Why not upload the video. This SS came from a video

[keen vapor]

But it does happen in other matches....

[keen vapor]

Rip my data

[swift mango]

You could try something like Panda Video compressor... It could compress your video to less than 3mb

[glad meteor]

You can check scalter cover after second shot

If damaged they target noise

[quick lake]

SBS against Noah?

Can try running 2 defenders maybe

[verbal oasis]

I'm consider running these 3 teams for SArena is it okay:

1. Noise/Noah/Cindy/Emilia/Rapunzel
2. Blanc/AnisS/RH/Biscuit/Rumani
3. Liter/Centi/Scar/Anis/Jackal

[swift mango]

S.Anis team can be a bit slow but otherwise okay

[tropic summit]

as Blood said

[quick lake]

I would like to put Scar in P1 too

[swift mango]

Liter p1 is better

[quick lake]

More tanky?

[swift mango]

Yea

[glad meteor]

not enough damage

[swift mango]

It was nearly 18% deficit. Couldn't be helped

[keen vapor]

So, it wasn't feed

[glad meteor]

Attack ols may help i guess

unless you already have them

[keen vapor]

Is funny bc his same comp on rookie actually was consistently 3RL

[swift mango]

Okay, remember that Noah is nearly 0.5 RL before full burst.

So their team which put up Noah shield after you went into burst 3 and full burst appeared is perfectly 3.5rl to me.

[keen vapor]

Just two

[keen vapor]

You count Tia?

[glad meteor]

get 4 blue lines

[swift mango]

Yeah, otherwise, why would I say 3.5rl?

[glad meteor]

Noah damage reduction + defence hurts here

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Somehow, scar jack gets blocked by Noah

[swift mango]

If 3rl Scar-Jack got blocked by that team then they could have some CS, doesn't need to be 17% though. About 5%-10% should be enough.

[keen vapor]

: novel noted:

[grizzled bone]

[keen vapor]

So, next thing to do should be to speed up my Scar jack team

[solar stratus]

got all nikke except rapunzel and flora

[keen vapor]

The second team looks more random than the third one

[solar stratus]

is that so? how to fix that? I won a lot with that scarlet team

I pretty much just copy the lineup from someone in my bracket

[swift mango]

Rearrange team 3...

Rumani+Pepper+Anis+Cindy+XMaiden

[keen vapor]

Well, is close to a god comp ....

But Anne does nothing there

[solar stratus]

who would be a good replacement for her? and should I move anne somewhere?

[keen vapor]

My jackal has 2.86% charge speed :deadge:

[swift mango]

Team 2 though... If you wanna roll with it...

Noise+Noah+SBS+Anne+Jackal....

[swift mango]

Rock to reroll the line to 3.5% at least...

[solar stratus]

oh sbs

so scarlet benched?

[swift mango]

You could post ur box here for @keen vapor to cook you 3 teams.

[keen vapor]

I was thinking on SBS to replace Anne for CP pad actually, of course I prefer SBS Noah teams

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message

Get to work

[solar stratus]

the rest are unbuilt

[keen vapor]

Centi actually has 4.92%

[solar stratus]

well I can build them if they are really good. only missing flora and rapunzel

[keen vapor]

Tbh these are good teams already

Since both recommended variants for team 2 (scar scar-SBS Anne) are 3 RL in speed you can try SBS/Scarlet first to see if there are improvements

[keen vapor]

Huh, I can't find Anne here...

I need another 2 charge speed lines and I might lose one ele in the process

[swift mango]

That ele on gauntlet is pretty much useless anyway compared to a 2 line...

[keen vapor]

: hu tao why:

[swift mango]

I will go 0 IQ mode and give you 3 team real quick

Scarlet+Blanc+RH+Emi+Jackal

Centi+Rumani+Anis+Cindy+LaplaceT

Noah+Noise+Biscuit+SBS/ASS+Tia/Xmaiden

Make sure your Scarlet has a higher ATK than Emi or RH at least.

[keen vapor]

..... Of course.... Nvm, it can't work with my weak Scarlet

[umbral crown]

i wonder why

how many rocks in inventory?

[keen vapor]

8

[solar stratus]

alright thanks! Ill try these lineups

[keen vapor]

Rapi eat a lot of rocks

[swift mango]

I will repeat, make sure your Scarlet is linked.

[keen vapor]

Wait, I just checked

Since when my Scarlet has two attack lines?

Well, one of them is top line with a def line as middle line

[swift mango]

Just take your Jackal team to a PvE fight and you would know who got linked to Jackal ...

[keen vapor]

So I have to roll it sooner or later

[swift mango]

My Scarlet only have 1 AtK line. You are better off than me.

[keen vapor]

But I have 0 stars(?

[solar stratus]

she is higher than emi but lower than RH. will that works?

[swift mango]

So long as your scarlet is linked with Jackal. It will work.

Could check in a PvE fight. The link also counts OL ATK.

In fact, it would be better if Emi and Scarlet are linked... Oh wait, it looks like you mean RH+Scarlet linked nvm it works.

[keen vapor]

But that would require brick RH

[swift mango]

[solar stratus]

welp emillia atk is too low it seems

[wild badge]

@keen vapor save me from this hell

[swift mango]

Good enough. It would eh worse if your Emi is linked instead of Scarlet

[keen vapor]

What was your def

[wild badge]

scarletless, noahless

[solar stratus]

it's noah/noise/biscuit/sbs/tia right? for the 3rd team?

[keen vapor]

Without Noah I highly doubt you can keep C3 consistently

[swift mango]

Yeah, it will be fine.

[solar stratus]

I need to move the quantum cube a bit then

[keen vapor]

how you will move it btw

[wild badge]

[swift mango]

Just make sure Emi and Jackal has quantum I guess. The rest should be fine without.

[keen vapor]

I also doubt you can invest Bay

[swift mango]

I'm keeping C3 consistently.

[solar stratus]

scarlet - bastion
blanc - bastion
rh - resi
emi - adjut ( for the 21% charge speed emi)
jackal - quantum

noise, noah - quantum
biscuit - adju
sbs - resi
tia - ???

centi - quantum
rumani - ???
anis - quantum
cind - resi
lap - adju

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

I guess it's fine

[keen vapor]

I'd get Blanc with tempering cube

[solar stratus]

lvl 3 tempering will do?

[keen vapor]

Also Noise and Noah

[keen vapor]

Please invest

[solar stratus]

at minimum level 5? I can invest. I got a lot of that currency to buy battery

[keen vapor]

I'd prefer level 7 if possible, but yes, 5 will activate elemental damage buff so it will increase CP given

[solar stratus]

my quantum is at 10
resi at 11
bastion 11
adju 8

ill invest on tempering then

[keen vapor]

You won't ever need more quantum levels

[solar stratus]

idk why I level it to 10 even. I guess because back then I got recommended to slot in many quantum for regular areana. sth with burst gen.

[tropic summit]

11 seconds

[quick lake]

Thats me attack my whale! 15s

[keen vapor]

The sniper must have been Speedy Gonzales

[tropic summit]

meanwhile

[tropic summit]

pretty sure some serial killer are active Nikke PvP players

[wild badge]

bay who

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

unfortunately Bay is still rather cope anti nuke B2 anyway

[keen vapor]

-# Yes, report him

[quick lake]

[keen vapor]

But I need to do something for my team 3

[swift mango]

could just not use bay

[keen vapor]

Then what

[quick lake]

The previous video was good.
Moran Ludmilla Bay Emilia SAnis

But ludmilla s2 lv10

[grizzled bone]

custom status' are funny

[keen vapor]

Not my hoarding being affected once again

[quick lake]

Thats probably a more reliable bay team

[keen vapor]

Look at this! We have a very small population of good B2 units

[tropic summit]

or Merry's Nero, although that's even more investiment than Ludmilla

SR15 doll, maxed level on all skills, OL'ed with def, temperance

[tropic summit]

anis B2

[keen vapor]

Why summer Anis off burst

[quick lake]

Oops, wrong order

[keen vapor]

@pastel narwhal

[pastel narwhal]

[keen vapor]

IT'S SILENT KISAMAAAAAAAAAAA!

[tropic summit]

if DEF only mattered...

[quick lake]

Is that Merry’s?

[tropic summit]

nah it's anis

[quick lake]

they gonna give us defence buffers soon

[tropic summit]

nero is this bad boy

[quick lake]

Im still coping and figuring out how to make bay work

[tropic summit]

there's probably something good out of that whole team damage share and with temperance, SR15 and stacking damage reduction... probably

[keen vapor]

I'll need tetra defender gear again

[rich quail]

@keen vapor YOU’RE GOING TO JAIL, MISTER

[keen vapor]

It was @silent!

[rich quail]

@umbral crown throw the book at him

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

[quick lake]

[rich quail]

[umbral crown]

[mint jay]

any recommended team?

[wild badge]

@keen vapor

[raven plover]

bro in warzone

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-thousand-yard-stare-cat-soldier-cat-war-scared-gif-12439246475771371280

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

For now auto is your best option

You started on 2nd anni right?

[wild badge]

these guys literally have their game up on another monitor just looking at pvp

[bleak latch]

he must be using my team as a test subject at this point

[keen vapor]

: shifty wah : exists just fyi

[keen vapor]

I would

[mint jay]

started on new year

[keen vapor]

Huh.... Be sure to put in wishlist the characters you already own, to get them to 3 stars, you'll need 5

[grizzled bone]

you should post your box so that you can get recommended attack teams

[swift mango]

All 3 team die to the standard.

Scarlet+Blanc+RH+Centi+Jackal.

So add in a 2rl Cindy and you could hit any 2 of these 3 team.

Nvm 2RL Cindy then. You don't have it.

[swift mango]

Hmm

Noah+Biscuit+Rapunzel+SbS+Crown

To hit their Emi team I guess.

Scarlet team to hit either of the other 2.

Other like @quick lake may build you better team. I'm lazy to think now.

[wild vine]

Who should I invest in if these are my
SP (DEF) teams
Scarlet/Noir/Pepper/Poli/Jackal
Blanc/Emilia/RH/Biscuit/Anis
Noise/Noah/SBS/Rapunzel/Tia

[grizzled bone]

you could alternatively use a SBS team on their Scarlet team since they have no way to block it,
and then a Blanc indomd ASS on their Emi team could work as well

@warped cedar

[warped cedar]

They did actually help me update my def teams yesterday

[grizzled bone]

do you care about PvE?

[wild vine]

Idk I'm kind of stuck on hard mother whale and I don't expect that to change any time soon so I can invest a little into pvp

[quick lake]

Can try T1:
Scarlet Noah RH Laplace Jackal (Double check that Scarlet has > atk than Laplace for jackal link, inclusive of OL atk%)

T2:
Blanc SBS Biscuit Emilia Rapunzel

T3:
Skip

[swift mango]

Remember to tell him how to match their team speed too. The SBs team I gave them was 4rl

[grizzled bone]

if you like playing both modes then RH and SBS should probably be your priority since they're used in both modes of content pretty heavily

[grizzled bone]

K gave teams?

[swift mango]

Typo

[grizzled bone]

oop

[swift mango]

Auto correct s*

[wild vine]

Ye but they are pretty much maxed the only thing I can do for them is reroll their overload lines but I'd need a ton of rocks to improve it by even a few k combat power

[swift mango]

All of them. But leave Poli, Noir and pepper aside for now.

Especially Poli

[torpid kelp]

hey yall! i was wondering if i could get some additional advice for pvp. i'm PVE mainly. the only invested units I have is a 10/10/10 RH, 10/4/10 alice, 10/8/6 modernia, 8/8/8 crown, 7/4/7 naga, 7/4/7 SBS, 4/4/7 asuka, 7/7/8 RHR

[wild vine]

Thanks 🙂

[warped cedar]

My Scarlet has less atk than my Laplace, what do?

[grizzled bone]

Blanc-ASS-RH-Emi-Jackal

• against their Emilia team
  Noah-Noise-SBS-Rapu-Lappy+3
• against their Scarlet team

all 3RL

[swift mango]

Use my teams instead

[grizzled bone]

or use Blood or Rheax teams lol

[grizzled bone]

Then I would probably look into investing more into your tanks/healers so you have more reliable sustain in your teams. Burst gen units require the least amount of investing for PvP but will lag behind in CP in most cases

[swift mango]

Cindy with no investment

[torpid kelp]

im low on skill books, but i can give her a few

[warped cedar]

Who is ASS?

[grizzled bone]

yeah... to add to what Blood said, if you care about PvE content and want more income focus on invesitng in SBS and Cindy

[grizzled bone]

Anis Sparkling Summer

[swift mango]

You could say who you have OL on instead of skill book.

[torpid kelp]

red hood 4 OL: 2 max ammo, 1 atk, 1 elemental damage; alice 4 OL: 1 charge speed, 2 max ammo. 1 atk, 1 elemental damage; modernia 4 OL: 3 max ammo, 1 atk; crown 2 OL: 1 ele, 1 atk, 2 max ammo; rapi red hood 4 OL: 2 max ammo, 1 ele, 1 atk; naga 2 OL: atk, ele damage

[whole shell]

That alice is bricked with only 1 charge speed

[torpid kelp]

im having trouble on finding out which pieces to reroll for alice. hat: atk, charge speed. body: crit max ammo. arm: ele dmg, charge damage (black). boots: crit damage, crit rate, max ammo

and i only have like 4 rocks

[whole shell]

Boots are the worst

Lock ammo, reroll that

If the way you ordered them is line position

[whole shell]

If ammo is not in line 3 then iffy

[grizzled bone]

@torpid kelp

[keen vapor]

Boots are needed

[warped cedar]

I forgot to record, but Team 2 did not beat the emi team

[grizzled bone]

But he's locking ammo if it's 3rd line

4 rocks isn't great to gamble with though

[torpid kelp]

i appreciate u greatly

[quick lake]

Probably just save the rocks for next time

[civic maple]

want some recommend on my def team for special arena

[livid marsh]

Help me defeat this

[quick lake]

T1: Noah Cindy Emilia Biscuit Noise
T2: Liter SAnis Crown Centi Jackal
T3: Auto

[keen vapor]

I'm curious on his other 2 teams....

[grizzled bone]

Ask him

[warped cedar]

@Caishen How confident are you with your team setup? I lost the one against the emi team with one of the other team recommendations

[grizzled bone]

@keen vapor @quick lake wanna double check this?

Blood went to sleep

[warped cedar]

I'll be sure to record next time, but something happened during the emi team, I think I got their team to half HP and then my team got wiped

[grizzled bone]

Pretty confident tbh but a few unknown factors like noise Noah taunt priority for example

You could wait for someone to double check my cook. I'm afk for the rest of the night

[livid marsh]

Lol

[quick lake]

lemme take a look. Uhh, SAnis feeds jackal

[keen vapor]

You facing a Blanc Emilia RH biscuit team right?

[warped cedar]

Yes

[keen vapor]

I have this for you

[quick lake]

Why dont u use my recommended attack teams
3 ppl cooked for u alr

[keen vapor]

Blanc Cindy worked for xrai

I've only tried Scar Blanc but that worked as well, but I think that may be inconsistent

[warped cedar]

I'm sorry I mentioned that my Scarlet's Atk was not higher than Laplaces in your cook

So then I went with Blood's suggestion

[keen vapor]

~~totally not stealing @lunar dirge cooking ~~

[quick lake]

Can swap Laplace for Noir, if Scarlet's atk > Noir

[keen vapor]

This

[quick lake]

Blanc Cindy?

Why would u ever need an indom Cindy

[keen vapor]

We have testimony

[keen vapor]

[quick lake]

[warped cedar]

Ok anything else I should check before I go in?

[quick lake]

Gimme a sec to check!

[grizzled bone]

Their Jackal is on their Scarlet team

[quick lake]

yea

[grizzled bone]

Wait did I miss something?

I'm looking from mobile

[quick lake]

yeah my bad, gave wrong teams

[grizzled bone]

I will leave this in Rheax and Echos capable hands lol

[quick lake]

T1:
Scarlet Noah RH Rapunzel Jackal (3RL)

T2:
Blanc Emilia Centi Biscuit Liter (3RL)

T3:
Skip

Oops my bad, sorry for the delay. Forgot about the opponent's SAnis P5. This teams should be good Can ping me if u need any follow up

[strong hull]

@keen vapor something off

pretty sure i need Ein 101010

[quick lake]

Cause the opponent's Cindy P1 so Ein bursts way faster + feathers

[wild vine]

Help will post nikkes soon

[strong hull]

I tested with god comp sbs

Me burst first

[keen vapor]

But you won

[strong hull]

But yea 4 4 4 ein isnt a good idea

[strong hull]

that right

now build me 3 defs

[quick lake]

Time to work Echo

[warped cedar]

Emi got got

Would it have worked if my emi was in the middle?

[quick lake]

Hmm lemme think

[quick lake]

Do u have Emilia at 21% charge speed?

[warped cedar]

I think so? She's 7/7/7 rn, cube and OL lines give her 9.61%

[quick lake]

s1 maxed level?

[warped cedar]

Not maxed 😦

[quick lake]

Hmm no worries! Can try:
Blanc SBS Emilia Liter Centi for T2.
Is SBS OL and geared?

[warped cedar]

Yes, but I will have to try again tomorrow. I am out of free tries

[quick lake]

We just need SBS to survive until Blanc's burst

[warped cedar]

Can i ping you again tomorrow if it doesn't work?

[quick lake]

yep sure!

Just ping me

[grizzled bone]

Now it's time to try my teams

[quick lake]

I thought u were gonna sleep

[grizzled bone]

I wanted to see if you guys won

[quick lake]

Close, but not close enough

[warped cedar]

Tomorrow is another day

[grizzled bone]

Pvp is a learning experience

Do you see why I recommended ASS against their Emi team?

[warped cedar]

My assumption is wearing them down while both team's indoms are up

[quick lake]

Hm yeah, Jackal linked ASS

[copper creek]

alternatively

[quick lake]

Better teams @warped cedar can try these teams tmr

[copper creek]

u can do the fked up thing and give their emi a mirror match

blanc/emi/rh/biscuit/crown

🙂

[quick lake]

Also works

[copper creek]

assuming your emi lives

[quick lake]

Need more padded Emi

[copper creek]

4x def emilia on OL speaking, i dont know if yours will live that long

[quick lake]

or 17% cs to burst faster

Im too used to bursting fast

[copper creek]

i want her to be slower than 3rl

[quick lake]

Yeah, for emi vs emi blanc

[copper creek]

two blanc/emis at the same time rng mania

[quick lake]

Funny and works

[copper creek]

50/50

[warped cedar]

I tried a mirror match before but it didn't work

[copper creek]

no not mirror

never ever mirror the exact same team vs. the same team

that will never work in this game

[quick lake]

U intentionally burst later, so that ur Indom Emi will survive longer, and be the last one standing

But that's assuming Emi doesnt die from regular splash dmg

[grizzled bone]

You can replace Jackal if you're not comfortable with it. I was just matching speed in a quick cook

I think if you swap jackal and lappy it's the same speed but i don't have calculator handy.

[warped cedar]

I will try Caishen's lineup tomorrow

[grizzled bone]

ASS targets 2 units with highest atk too

I can't find your video, you may have deleted it, but you can rewatch the fight and see ASS in action

[warped cedar]

Oh shit you're right I didn't notice that

[grizzled bone]

You have tape you can study now. If you want to read more about how ASS works you can read Keripos write up about her. Should be in his tier list in the pins

[swift mango]

Was you able to block Emi nuke with it?

I could guess 3 reasons.

Blocked but their Emi still hit hard.

Not block and lose.

Block but they had Biscuit and their lowest Def unit happened to be a defender

[swift mango]

Noah+Biscuit+Rapunzel+SBS+LapT

To hit T1.

If you had enough CP and Noise CS>= Noah

Noah+Noise+Biscuit+SBS+Rapunzel

__

Scarlet+Blanc+RH+Centi+Jackal . To hit one of the others. Could also try, Scarlet+Centi+RH+Emi+Jackal. Make sure Scarlet is linked to Jackal. Better if all 3 Emi, Centi, Jackal with quantum level 7 if you choose to hit Noise team.

Sorry I was low on caffeine a few hours ago.

Check CP though before you go in. Your team CP/theirs need to be > 0.846.

[swift mango]

With quantum on all 3 RL

[warped cedar]

I don't think it blocked because the whole squad was wiped in an instant

[swift mango]

Then it's speed problem....

You may have high CS on one of your RL

So

Noah+Biscuit+Rapu+SBS+Crown become 3.5rl and you lose.

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message

Could try something like this against the Ass team.

Use LapT instead of Quiry ofc...

But hey you don't need to go this extreme...

[muted stag]

is this a win? the scar team has rosanna and i heard rosanna counters jackal

[vapid lake]

Rosanna delete jackal link so no more feed + p1 attacker vulnerable to death

[livid marsh]

How to beat?

[swift mango]

You could also try

Noah+Noise/Rapu+SBS+Biscuit+Tia

Or

Noah+Tia+Rapu+SBS+Biscuit

Against their ASS team. Should be an easy win with Noah and Tia Taunting S.Anis...

[muted stag]

will these still work? i think my scar team still out burst @swift mango

[lunar dirge]

biscuit indom,cindy survive via invul from biscu

[swift mango]

No, it's likely a lose

[swift mango]

Use your Scarlet to hit ASS team instead

[muted stag]

the noah team too slow i think need change it up

[swift mango]

Or you could use your Cindy team to hit their Scar-Jack

[muted stag]

sanis?

[swift mango]

Yeah

[muted stag]

their sanis team is 3RL i think

my scar jackal is 2.5RL

will my noah burst in time before their scar tho

[swift mango]

It's 2rl with feed.

If equip Rumani+Centi+Jack with level 7 quantum it would be natural 2rl

[muted stag]

whats 2rl with feed

[swift mango]

ASS attack feed to Jackal skill 1...

[muted stag]

ah cause shotgun

[worthy knoll]

It should be 2 RL if you include feed. SG hitting linked or Jackal gives 3.55% BG per SG ammo (coz 10 pellets per ammo, trigger 1 Jackal S1, gives +3.55% BG per trigger)

[muted stag]

so if shotgun hits me i will get faster burst

so if there wasnt a shotgun it would have been 2.5?

[swift mango]

Yes, every SG attack give your Jackal 3.5 burst gen at least.

[swift mango]

And this is 2rl without feed

[muted stag]

wait so it already is 2rl

but for this team isnt burst gen relatively the same

will noah be proc in time before the scar

or should i skip team 1 and hit team 3 instead

[worthy knoll]

With quantums

[muted stag]

his sbs team seems slow

[swift mango]

Noah block their Scarlet. Cindy nuke their team.

Weak Rossanna won't be one shot anyone in your team provided they are all properly invested.

[muted stag]

how about hitting his sbs team

[swift mango]

You could, it would be even easier

[muted stag]

alr lemme try

welp lost team 2

[swift mango]

Wait

Oh shit...

[muted stag]

i wipe them but the rapu revive sanis

[swift mango]

Like I said, did you put Quantum lv7 on Rumani, Centi and Jackal?

[muted stag]

then i died

[muted stag]

i did

[swift mango]

Hmm your Scarlet just not strong enough I guess..m

[worthy knoll]

Nah that is how it usually go if its just RH buffed

Specially if opponent has a good Rapu

[swift mango]

He is over 20 level above hit enemies

[worthy knoll]

Yeah so what its just 20 levels above

[muted stag]

i generally avoid sanis teams

[worthy knoll]

I mean I my Rapu can tank Scarlet Blanc RH 50 levels above me albeit on her last legs

Just Scar RH is more survivable

[swift mango]

It's not what usually happened. It's more like investment issue

If you could fight the guy 50 level above you and survive then he should be very low on investment comparing to you.

[worthy knoll]

Again don't underestimate damage reduction

Only reason my Rapu is on her last legs is coz of Blanc

[swift mango]

That one with Rapu buffed by Nero, right?

[worthy knoll]

Yeah but Nero buff still just 10-12%? 27-29% DR at most

But if no Blanc, just RH Scarlet isn't that strong

[swift mango]

Well, problem is, you probably out investment 99% of player here in Arena. It's not something usually happened.

[worthy knoll]

Preferrably if you have XAnne and within CP use her instead of Rumani

Burst with her instead of Centi

[muted stag]

but burst gen wont be 2.0 already

[worthy knoll]

You should still be 2 RL

With the Jackal feed

[muted stag]

should i swop rumani to centi instead

then put xanne there

[worthy knoll]

Scarlet Anne RH Centi Jackal

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Blanc+RH+Centi+Jackal would be 2.5RL with feed hitting S.Anis team.

[muted stag]

yeah

[swift mango]

Scar+Anne+RH+Centi+Jackal

Would be around 2rl

[muted stag]

the rosanna team is unbeatable huh?

[swift mango]

Use your Cindy to beat it.

[muted stag]

my cindy team already beating team 3

this is a win

was thinking if i can skip team 2

[swift mango]

You should win with Anne, just follow Merry Advise.

[muted stag]

wth now team 3 lost lmao

[swift mango]

View replay and record it.

Zzz

I told you to hit their Scarlet instead... Team 3 is in deficit range so who knows if a Crit could screw you.

[muted stag]

mb

[swift mango]

It looked like you were able to kill Noise before they burst last time but not this time

[muted stag]

yeah

[muted stag]

the noise manage to burst this time round

this is due to cp deficit i assume?

[swift mango]

Your suggestion won thanks. But his team 3 got screwed over instead.

[swift mango]

Yeah

[swift mango]

Otherwise you would wipe them all

[muted stag]

if i hit scar team its both 3rl burst

will noah proc in time tho

[swift mango]

Noah will proc before Scarlet but after Rossana.

You need your Rapunzel strong enough to not getting one shot by Rossana from full HP.

[muted stag]

well i think my rapu shd be fine i hope

no more attempts

need try tmr

[worthy knoll]

Just 2 RL Noise Noah XMaiden the Scar team I guess?

[muted stag]

i have xmaiden built

[swift mango]

It still require a strong enough b1 to not getting one shot by Rossana

[worthy knoll]

Enemy should be 3 RL

At most 2.5

[vapid lake]

reviver + healer

[muted stag]

@worthy knoll here

[worthy knoll]

Yeah, Noise Noah Centi(or Anis) XMaiden Lap+ should be fine

[swift mango]

Oh wait, even if b1 getting one shot he they should still already burst.

So you should still win.

My bad

[worthy knoll]

Well the worry I guess if Scar died too quickly

Though I doubt their too soft to die in just 1 RL

[muted stag]

why not just noah biscuit emillia rapu anis

thats just 2 RL as well

[swift mango]

Emilia has no business be b3 in 2rl team. She will make it 3.5rl lol

[muted stag]

welp but the noah procs

so their scar immune

emillia is just there to get the 2rl proc for noah

[swift mango]

Maybe if your Emi is strong enough....

[muted stag]

whats the team for the safest win tho

i dont have la+ btwe

[worthy knoll]

Well that is fine too if its 2 RL.. as long your Emi doesn't die. Sometimes there could be an awkward period that Rosanna burst just a tad bit close before Noah invul applies but the chances of that happening is low

[swift mango]

It could happen with enough CS on 2 clip RL

[worthy knoll]

Yeah if it against my team it could happen

But his opponent prolly not that much of pvp geek anyway

[swift mango]

He could be lucky with his initial roll

[muted stag]

well so shd i use
Noah biscuit cindy rapu anis
or
noah biscuit emi rapu anis

or smth else

[swift mango]

Does your Anis or Noah have CS?

[swift mango]

Use

Noah Bis Cin Rapu Rumani instead

100% win

[worthy knoll]

Try Noise Noah Anis XMaiden Rumani (if no Laplace+) first coz I'm curious

Since your XMaiden is built I wanna see a link kill

[swift mango]

How is your Rumani CP comparing to Anis?

[muted stag]

rumani slightly higher

[swift mango]

Then you should win

Even if Rapu got oneshot before she burst

Since Rumani will burst instead

[muted stag]

my anis has 4.92 charge speed rumani and nooah doesnt

[swift mango]

Nothing changed

[muted stag]

lmao cp gap too big

his 915k

my rapu c7 and doll is up so she tanks a lot for cp

[swift mango]

Oh so you are 20 lv lower not higher. My bad again.

[worthy knoll]

If Emilia and not Rumani?

Or emilia instead of Anis, whichever who has the lowest cp

Just make sure XMaiden is the one bursting

[muted stag]

both cp abt the same

since lb0

[worthy knoll]

Oh still on penalty

[swift mango]

What's your XMaiden investment?

Nvm deficit anywau

[worthy knoll]

I want more XMaiden adventures, guess its not possible this time

[muted stag]

1 charge speed line 2 attk 2 ele 1 ammo

[worthy knoll]

Oh I thought when you said XMaiden built, she is at least within the 3 rows

[muted stag]

welp

[muted stag]

i meant she is built like OL and skill lvl invested

[worthy knoll]

If you replace Centi with Anis, is the Scar team still fine CP wise?

[muted stag]

she is on the 4th line

[worthy knoll]

Yeah the team should be fine CP wise since you were even higher than them by 40k

How much CP is Noise Noah Centi XMaiden Rumani?

Though if its still under CP, your only choice now is Noise Noah Centi SBS Rumani (Centi and Rumani on quantum, prolly Noah too just to be safe)

As for your Scar team just replace Centi with Anis

[swift mango]

Well, Noah+biscuit+Cindy+Rapu+Rumani should already be enough to win.

This team has a risk of Noise getting killed somehow and give Rossana burst gen too

[worthy knoll]

Its fine they have Rumani and its 2 RL anyway

[worthy knoll]

Well as long as the enemy is really just 3 RL, I don't trust nowadays using 3 RL against 3 RL now

[swift mango]

How is CP looks like, swapping Anis and Centi in your 2 team?

If you get enough CP you could use Cindy team to attack his Noise team without deficit and it would be much easier.

[worthy knoll]

Also I don't believe they can kill Noise in 2 RL coz Noise will heal herself on after the first RL

Only when enemy has a Lap+ that the idea Noise will die can enter

[swift mango]

I doubt his enemy could be 2.5rl while him 3 RL lol.... But maybe. Just need a record to know

If it's like 2.7RL Noah could still catch Scarlet.

Oh well

@muted stag maybe it's not 100% win rate after all lol... If 2 of their clip RL had 17% CS your Cindy team might lose.

[quick lake]

Probably not gonna see 17% that common

Unless u're really fighting a pvp main

[worthy knoll]

Like in this one, you would think at most it would be 2.5 RL if your team is 2 RL, where enemy B1 will trigger but your B3 will be first against enemy B2 at least, but in here no. Enemy was almost 2 RL even, well prolly somewhere between 2.2-2.3 RL

[swift mango]

Jackal s1 has a small delay though, so you were depend on the 4th shot from ASS to get to 2rl is would be a bit slower than actual 2rl.

[livid root]

what is with arena , losing my place because I can't attack anyone with "Disconnected from server" issue...

[swift mango]

Partially resolved bug

[worthy knoll]

Wdym, SG 4th shot is quicker than a second RL shot even

[swift mango]

Oops...

[swift mango]

Their Jackal probably had 20% CS I guess.

Maybe...

[worthy knoll]

Jackal the highest but enemies Noah and Noise are also high in CS

They already released their projectile but not a single ally RLs still haven't

Well am not sure about the Noise but at least Jackal and Noah showed their reload animation really quick

[swift mango]

Mana is an attacker who grants buffs to her allies and strengthens herself.

She periodically recovers the entire squad’s HP and instantly revives allies who are out of action.

---

Ah sh*t new Arena meta, I'm already broke enough as is... Fk

https://blog.prydwen.gg/2025/01/13/nikke-patch-notes-ssr-mana-new-treasures/

https://nikke-en.com/newsdetail_m.html?content_id=be64a323acc21a4dc2abf9da0374e45aae9a

Considering I have no Rapu and XAnne this gal high chance a must pull...

If she could be something like the unit in the bottom right of this video then Nikke Arena is gonna be busted by her for a year at least.

~~ignore the unit on the left that one shot everyone though ~~

[raven plover]

oh shi

[raven plover]

never thought theres this gimmick on other game chinese version of tales of angels has one, unit dies, she revives everyone

[swift mango]

Yeah, the most Op unit in that game in the first 6 months...

Especially with enough dupe, everyone would come back with 70% HP... Later on everyone will build their characters with Debuff that stops reviving though... To counter her...

[swift mango]

Now pray for Mana to be like that then?!

[raven plover]

[swift mango]

Scar-Jack, And other wipe would become completely useless.

[shell hazel]

I was hoping she was a skip as I need pulls for Eva collab :9

[violet prism]

Hello again, i pulled cindy and centi so was wondering how should i update my SPA teams

i would like to maintain my C8 position

[lunar dirge]

she's ar,so idk

[swift mango]

If she was able to revive everyone upon dead then instantly EX tier.

[lunar dirge]

maybe 1 time thing

like biscuit

[swift mango]

Who give a s* about burst Gen anymore.

[swift mango]

Yeah, one time is enough for Scar-Jack and Cindy to be out of business

[lunar dirge]

but it's not like indom tbf

[swift mango]

This game will be forced to introduce "prevent revive" debuff to counter her.

[lunar dirge]

if they resurrected,they need a follow up too

like blanc

or noah

[swift mango]

That's easy archivable

[lunar dirge]

and kinda makes sense only if you die before fb

and if your dps died during fb

he'll most likely lose the buffs

like sbs.for example

needs testing imo

dunno about her usability in ca

but sp viable ig

[swift mango]

Yeah, losing some buff doesn't mean much here. That improtant result is that the lower Wipe team win.

[lunar dirge]

also,what prevents us from from killing mana

she's an attacker,so not much hp

[swift mango]

Positioning.

[lunar dirge]

if double nuke,then noah is a must,but you can just emi her then

something looks fishy there

for me

[swift mango]

If she were able to revive everyone then even Emi will not work. Just put her at p4.

And she will die last in the team

[lunar dirge]

won't work if mana will die

also

i wonder how she'll work if everyone die from a nuke

too many variables

[swift mango]

Everyone will come back along with her. If I based this from other game.

[lunar dirge]

well

[swift mango]

[lunar dirge]

nikke is another game

especially when qol update can break arena

[fiery parcel]

Help me cook against this team?

[strong hull]

@swift mango wakey wakey

Time to work

[fiery parcel]

Im missing emilia, noise, rem, but have most of the rest.

So can probably make most lineups

[swift mango]

I remember when I was playing that game. That unit that revive everyone upon dead was the most OP units in the first 3 months. Then still OP 3 month later. But afterward, everyone and their mother brought equipment that prevented enemies from reviving and she became a lost investment forever for those who maxed dupe her.... Powercreep is a harsh mama... I was the top 3 in the server and the rare top player cross server who never pulled for her lol...

[tropic summit]

Needs testing before judging, but if mana can survive a nuke and revive afterward that would introduce a chance for slower teams

An essentially better version of rapu perhaps

[swift mango]

Yeah...

But probably not if she needs to survive to revive since she is an attacker

This game has surviving problem. In other games with Pvp feature they don't let you able to wipe the whole team in one burst even after 2 years in...

They would introduce more upgrade like treasures to up the tankiness of units.

But since this game Arena has been stagnant water for 2 years it couldn't be helped

[fiery parcel]

@tropic summit @swift mango any advice?

[quick lake]

Dont forget treasures! I bet 2/4 can be pvp kits

[swift mango]

Move Cindy to t3 replacing S.Anis or SBS and hit team 2 maybe.

Check CP firsts

Team Scarlet should win as is.

[fiery parcel]

Ok. Will record and try

[quick lake]

Miranda might be worth worth buffers now

[swift mango]

Screenshot the CP here first... Oh well. Good luck

[swift mango]

Maybe

[fiery parcel]

Haven't fought yet

Just changed the teams around

[swift mango]

Uhm in team 1, Scarlet linked with Jackal, right?

Because My Scarlet won't link with the same line up

[calm gull]

should be

[fiery parcel]

I think so. So far my Scarlet has been able to survive quite a few hits because of Jackal

[calm gull]

*blanc's too

[fiery parcel]

Should i replace anyone with blanc?

[calm gull]

T1 stays

[swift mango]

Would your CP improve if you replacing Noah with Centi

A bit under deficit here

[fiery parcel]

Blanc's at 4/4/4. My scarlet is 4/1/4

[calm gull]

oh no

blanc is okay but at least scarlet ult at 7

[fiery parcel]

No. Noah has higher CP than Centi by 2k

[fiery parcel]

Been keeping skill manuals for rrh

She's at 8/10/9 now

[swift mango]

Who has higher CP than SBS?

[calm gull]

T1 & T3 is okay cp wise, T2 has quite a large margin

And I dont think your XMaiden > SBS cp wise

[fiery parcel]

Cindy, naga, crown

[swift mango]

Maybe use the Cindy team to hit Scarlet since I don't know your box

[swift mango]

Try replacing SBS with Naga or Crown then whoever higher cp

[fiery parcel]

What's box?

[swift mango]

I meant your nikke box in order of power

[fiery parcel]

Increase by 6k

[swift mango]

Good enough

[fiery parcel]

Btw, after RRH, for pvp, who should i increase first? Scarlet? Then jackal, then noah?

[swift mango]

Scarlet ofc...

Jackal and Noah only need OL and doll, no need skill investments.

[calm gull]

scarlet, jackal and noah just need to be at budget skill investment

Burst lv7 should be an okay spot

but if youre paranoid like me, go 10 7 10

[fiery parcel]

Final setup

Gonna try recording

[tropic summit]

CP deficit is 14% for T2, but you'll outspeed and have got biscuit and noah, should be fine

[quick lake]

Solid cooks

[calm gull]

RH B1 into Cindy hurts a lot

[tropic summit]

yeah the hope is that they'll kill RH fast leaving possibly just cindy alone, or else it's fireworks

[fiery parcel]

Woohoooo

It works

Been awhile since i got to C7

[tropic summit]

yeah alice and RH got deleted afterall, good enough

[fiery parcel]

But their T1 noah lasted a long time

[tropic summit]

was just biscuit S2, nothing to worry about

leaving the enemy with just 1 or 2 defenders alive, alone, is generally non problematic

a more interesting issue would be with a rumani noah cind biscuit, whereas if your nuke isn't strong enough, rumani and noah could live via biscuit S2, cindy might survive due to decoy and then you're stuck receiving their nuke afterward

[fiery parcel]

Btw, what's a good team for rookie arena?

Ive been only using CP to win my fights

I.e. boss fight team @ 470k CP

[tropic summit]

anything that is 2.5RL or 2RL generally has better chances

Scar blanc anis centi jackal
scar centi rh anis jackal
rumani centi cind anis jackal

to give you a few examples

taking a look

synch lvl 230 but eva collab... you took a break right? also, do you've an out of synch rumani/noise/noah?

[fiery parcel]

SR anis, and not summer anis?

[tropic summit]

yes the SR one, works as a battery due to being clip RL

[fiery parcel]

So should i win this?

[quick lake]

Depends if ur RH-buffed Scarlet has enough dmg to OHKO, but seems enough given his lower sync. Penalty

[tropic summit]

check CP deficit

[fiery parcel]

50k almost 20%

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc rh xmaiden jackal
naga centi cind anis noise
auto team (can crown alice biscuit rrh noir)

cubes:

quantum on jackal, centi, anis
vigor on blanc, noise, naga

notes:

wishlist/build asap noah, rapunzel

[tropic summit]

then CP won't allow you to win that one most likely

[fiery parcel]

This is im using campaign team

140k CP higher @ almost 25% higher

[tropic summit]

that's 30% deficit

(in favour)