pvp-arena

[quick lake]

Basic team examples! Newer players still unfamiliar with Scar-Jack,
Blanc Indom and biscuit.

And also how to use the burst calc. As a newer pvp player, i has no idea how to read understand the calc.

And also concept of buffers, ie scale needing at least 1 buffer to work etc

[umbral belfry]

outside of being faster and stall teams, what else can counter Noah so I know in the future?

[vapid lake]

emilia but you dont have her
(and will never have her)

[umbral belfry]

started too late

[tropic summit]

if others don't have her too, you're fine

[vapid lake]

but the good thing is nobody in your bracket will have emilia too so you don't have to laern how to time and play around emilia's wipe too

[tropic summit]

nice, you did it, now you know your highest CP with a jackal in it

[quick lake]

Blanc + DPS works as well

[warped cedar]

If I read all that what would help me build a better understanding when looking at an enemy team vs understanding how my team is invested in SKill/Burst/cube wise? I know the resources are out there but it does feel like there's ALOT to process and a lot of variables to try and calculate

[whole pawn]

[whole pawn]

ok?

[tropic summit]

now what do you do with that info?

you check CP of your own team against enemy team

go check if u're in deficit or not

[whole pawn]

well I am not

but that's just 1team

[quick lake]

Yeah! I know there’s alot! I was in ur shoes just a month or two back!

Pvp is mostly about identifying which team archetypes wins ur opponent’s team archetype.

So eventually u see that: “opponent’s using a typical scarlet + jackal, we can use Blanc, Bay or Noah to counter.” etc etc

U’ll also start to think about team speeds, whether I’ll win if I burst faster, or win if burst slower. Or just same speed is enough, because I have the right unit ie Noah

[umbral belfry]

thoughts? can resend box if need be!

or maybe exchange rapi for alice?

[tropic summit]

here i'll make it easier for you

[thin perch]

What are the best Rapi Redhood teams?

[whole pawn]

IG I will put jackal first team then rumani third team and skip 2?

[warped cedar]

I can kinda see those things already, but it's when my team starts losing I have difficulty comprehending where my team went wrong. Like currently there are two people above me that I can't tell if it's a team comp error, a CP difference, or something else when losing

[quick lake]

Blanc + Rapi as of now. Generally Rapi isnt the best in pvp

[tropic summit]

almost, this is what you should do:

what do you put in T2 in the missing white box?

[fickle swift]

I dont think rapi redhood is good for pvp

[quick lake]

Yeahh, u’ll soon start to record the vids, watching them

But generally if u’re in the same sync and cp range, should always be winnable

[whole pawn]

doesn't matter, anything?

[warped cedar]

I don't record, what program is best?

[tropic summit]

it matters, you're 4RL agaisnt 4RL, what have you learned so far?

what do you want to do if you've got the choice?

[whole pawn]

nvm, I misunderstood the question

[tropic summit]

don't worry, now think and what can be done to improve that team

[quick lake]

Any recording is alright. I just use snip function on windows. Iphone screen recording also works

Mostly is to find out what went wrong ie opponent bursted faster, or my key dps died somehow

[whole pawn]

4rl is slower than 3 rl

[tropic summit]

i'll give you a hint, you need CP and speed

[tropic summit]

yes perfect, you getting there

with your remaining nikke, who could fit both CP and speed requirement

[whole pawn]

[tropic summit]

hint: rumani or centi, which are clip RL or naga, a normal SG?

[quick lake]

pvp chat is always here! Feel free to ask any questions u might have. Pvp is tough to learn at first, afterwhile its better (more fun than pve imo )

[whole pawn]

I would go for naga honestly

[tropic summit]

alright, why is that?

[whole pawn]

how do ik which units have speed?

[tropic summit]

now you asking the good questions

clip RL have better burst gen, normal SG have poorer burst gen

[umbral belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/learning-rick-and-morty-gif-24916393

[tropic summit]

regardless, naga is actually a good answer, as she's enough to hit 3RL threshold

while also being the most CP available in your case

[whole pawn]

the way u ask me is like the way my personal teacher used to do when expect me answering a question I have no idea how so

[tropic summit]

it's because this is how you learn

[whole pawn]

remind me what RL means?

[whole pawn]

so centi then? she has lesser cp but she has more than rumani

[warped cedar]

Railtracer already helped me update from my old team comp (hopefully it keeps from taking more losing for the time being) but I was curious if office hours were a thing because I really wanted a more knowledgable opinion based on how my units/account have been invested it

[tropic summit]

yes correct, good job

[quick lake]

The regulars are all lurking in the chat feel free to drop me a ping anytime if u wanna learn anything

[tropic summit]

now then, form these 2 teams and put them against the enemy 2 teams, first take a screenshot and post them here so we doublecheck if you meet CP requirement

[whole pawn]

why did u put jackal 2 times?

[tropic summit]

it was an example to get you to try, teams are above

#pvp-arena message

[umbral belfry]

gonna try this and hope for the best but i am considering naga somewhere on t1 for the cp increase

[tropic summit]

well i mean free feel to ask here, me or anyone will answer you

[quick lake]

Rail and I always happy to answer questions. Look at how busy he always is

[tropic summit]

aight, you can see the CP is looking good

[whole pawn]

do i swap xmaiden and cindy places?

[tropic summit]

now before running this, do you see anything wrong in it?

[tropic summit]

amazing, you answered before i asked

[quick lake]

Oops! Team 1 a little bit risky. Team 2 should work, but wont work at higher if opponent has high invest rapi

[tropic summit]

there's improvement

[whole pawn]

[tropic summit]

specifically, we want cindy to burst, but we don't want cindy to be p1, that's due to her decoy mechanics

hence, centi p1, cindy p2, biscuit p3, rumani p4, xmaiden p5

[umbral belfry]

i was considering taking out either anis or centi for naga, just unsure which one but they both give good burst gen

or maybe another dps?

[whole pawn]

decoy? is that why she doesnt take dmg?

[tropic summit]

yes but it also costs her to be essentially 2 hitboxes for enemy rocket launchers, meaning if you put her in their splash radius, you'll help the enemy build burst faster

[whole pawn]

i see

[tropic summit]

alright, once you finished those arrangements, record the match and then let's see how it goes

[quick lake]

Yeah! Another DPS is good. Blanc vs Blanc is generally about who bursts later wins. So for Team 1, ideally u want to kill off opponent’s Blanc BEFORE their blanc can burst.

So like a faster scarlet/Cindy team is best!

Team 2 Rapi, Moran + Bay should be fine enough

[whole pawn]

I can't record but u can say if it works or no

well it worked

[tropic summit]

wait wait

[whole pawn]

[quick lake]

Always record, otherwise u dont know what went right or wrong

[tropic summit]

you launched quick without watching it?

[umbral belfry]

I have no scar or Cindy

[whole pawn]

I watched it

[quick lake]

He usually does..

[tropic summit]

ok, what have you learned from it?

[whole pawn]

but I can't record

[tropic summit]

describe what happened you don't need to go in detail

[quick lake]

Hmm no worries! Might skip the blanc team then!

[umbral belfry]

t2 is Noah

[tropic summit]

unprotected noah, that's a good hint

[umbral belfry]

I'm gonna try to think of a team but what do you mean by unprotected? her placement?

[tropic summit]

she's without biscuit and without revive

and it's a 3RL, is she tanky enough for 4-5 shotguns?

[whole pawn]

jackal was taking most dmg but still I was able to burst fast
I also bursted fast in team 3 and centi was a half ho but with biscuit she became invulnerable and won
idk how I can describe things tho

[umbral belfry]

I see I see gimme a sec

[tropic summit]

yes you already captured 2 important things

[quick lake]

U can use ur Blanc Noise team here

[tropic summit]

1. jackal damage share, makes her tanky, but also allows you for fast burst gen when being hit by a lot of bullets
2. biscuit makes defender units invulnerable, useful for both protecting you but also ensuring to hit burst correctly

keep those 2 things in mind and you could already build teams around them

take a break or try with a new opponent now, make ur own teams, then post them here

[quick lake]

Yep! Noah is exposed in P1. So technically u can run 5 SGs to kill her before she can burst

[whole pawn]

but I wanna ask, biscuit works with defender units right?
but when do I use jackal or biscuit or rumani? cani find the answer in the guide?

[whole pawn]

and noah?

[tropic summit]

well you already partially know that answer now don't you?

-rumani is a defender a clip RL, high burst gen and is B1
-biscuit makes **defender **units invulnerable

put those two together and you've a B1 in p1 safe from damage and able to burst, while also enabling you burst gen

[umbral belfry]

I changed a few things if the focus is sg for Noah, not sure if I exchange a 3rd RL for more cp/dps like naga/alice

[tropic summit]

yes, you can get a better understanding in the guide i gave you, as it explains positioning too

and burst gen

[whole pawn]

I didnt expect rumani to be a defender

[whole pawn]

so before making teams I should know about opponent RL?

and make a team that enables to a faster burst?

[tropic summit]

yes, this can give you a pretty big advantage as it already tells you how the match could play out

and you can build teams around that info

[whole pawn]

is there a way to know that?

the RL thing?

[tropic summit]

burst gen calculators #pvp-arena message

[quick lake]

Hmm, I think Team 2 can just auto. Pure CP diff him

[whole pawn]

mmmm I see

I should copy that somewhere

[tropic summit]

hmm cookie, i'd CP gap the 1st team and you can run any 3RL on the enemy RRH team

[bleak shale]

theres a reason i put 6 total estimates on the calculator with 3 on each side

its almost as if theres 3 teams for u and 3 teams for the enemy

[tropic summit]

their 66k CP can be gapped by any of your 100k CP

[umbral belfry]

okay 1 sec

[quick lake]

Can use ur Noise Blanc SBS on opponent’s Team 3

Then completely auto for Team 2

[umbral belfry]

better?

ahh ill try the blanc noise too

oh wait I'm dumb 1 sec

[quick lake]

Should work still! But better to use ur Noise Blanc SBS setup on T3, then auto Team 2! Best chance

[tropic summit]

your T2 is fine, will CP gap and kill

T3 do you've any better B3 or a B1/B2 buffer?

[umbral belfry]

yeah I forgot to take off t3 before auto

let me try again

[glad meteor]

Team 3 scary depending on naga invest

SGs hit hard

[tropic summit]

also this @umbral belfry

#pvp-arena message

p1 and p5 defender and you're safe from SG and fire on p1 with biscuit

[quick lake]

Give Railtracer MA

[tropic summit]

could say the same for you

[glad meteor]

[quick lake]

I wanna talk rubbish

We got no active MA in pvp chat :
Blood essentially, and echo and cereal

and now Rail

[umbral belfry]

not sure how i feel about t3 still

could I exchange xmaiden to t3?

[tropic summit]

no biscuit? 🤔

[umbral belfry]

no

[tropic summit]

oh oki

[glad meteor]

Deficit

[umbral belfry]

yeah that's that gets me most of all

[tropic summit]

post your box again cookie, we might be missing something there

[tropic summit]

oh oke

[umbral belfry]

oh wait rheax did say sbs for t3 too I missed that

[glad meteor]

I remember upgrading ros to break a comp on alt, s1/2 good

[quick lake]

Yeah, ideally
SBS Blanc Centi Liter xMaiden for T3 @umbral belfry

[quick lake]

Stop bullying in pvp on ur alt

[glad meteor]

I got C1 today

Haven’t checked again

[quick lake]

I might start pvp account when CN nikke launch

[tropic summit]

is SBS gonna survive in p1 for 3.5RL against 2 MGs fire? 🤔

i was thinking this for a safer approach

moran will taunt in p5 once you burst, should also offer a bit more CP

[quick lake]

Urs should work!

[tropic summit]

just curious if she'd live that's why, if she did she'd get indom for sure tho

[umbral belfry]

okay 1 sec, ty both

[quick lake]

Can copy Rail’s answers

[umbral belfry]

not sure how tanky this is at my level tho

[tropic summit]

mind you it just might be enough, but i wouldn't bet on it

[umbral belfry]

okay I'll play it safe LMAO 1 sec

[tropic summit]

up 2 you, both are working options if anything

ensure T1 remains CP gapped but it should be

[whole pawn]

@tropic summit

[tropic summit]

i see improvements

proud of you

[whole pawn]

idk, this has to be tested for sure, i still dont know when i should use those pvp units, plus these teals are based on the calculator

[glad meteor]

Can put biscuit p2, cindy decoy gives rl extra gen

[keen vapor]

We Cindy P2 now huh

[tropic summit]

wouldn't matter as long as there is no emi

[keen vapor]

Huh

[whole pawn]

p2 isnt ok?

[tropic summit]

centi biscuit cind rumani alice, as someone suggested, p2 cindy is still risky, it's good to learn to use her in p3,p4,p5
jackal grave sbs rh viper, to enable SBS burst instead of RH, generally a better choice, albeit situational

for the rest you did well

[umbral belfry]

also a question, wouldn't bay be a better pick vs viper?

[whole pawn]

i need to test this

[tropic summit]

we want to kill them before they do anything, bay is more to enable protection against single hit nukes or a form of stalling

also bay has weaker burst gen than viper, being clip SG against normal RL

[whole pawn]

does my fps affects DMG in pvp?

[glad meteor]

RLs get gen from

P1 Cover
P2 Cover
P1 Nikke
P2 Nikke

They get more gen since decoy counts as a target. Might matter sometimes. P2 cindy can have some niche uses

[tropic summit]

pvp is fps locked to 30

[whole pawn]

I feel safe then

[umbral belfry]

gotcha gotcha. okay i'll try now, ty both you and rheax!

[whole pawn]

they actually worked

[tropic summit]

looks good

also 30% deficit on the first team, more than enough

[tropic summit]

ofc they did, you learned to read today

[whole pawn]

centi was taking DMG but she become invulnerable and Cindy bursted everything, same thing happen to second team

[tropic summit]

see, you aren't bricked

[whole pawn]

[tropic summit]

just need knowledge and now you gaining experience to back it up

keep it up

[whole pawn]

I still need to search for things, like when to use those certain units against who and stuff

[tropic summit]

yeah that'll come with the more opponents you deal with

[whole pawn]

chal 8

[tropic summit]

ch1 or go home

[umbral belfry]

yipppieeeee

[whole pawn]

it's impossible for me rn, even I struggle on manufacturer towers and anomaly

[tropic summit]

nah, you aiming for this

then ofc if your ch1 is a whale, you might not hold it, but you can still steal it perhaps

[whole pawn]

I can't do it rn, even chal 8 was harder to ezach

[umbral belfry]

I need to remember which teams i used for who, but regardless ty guys!

[tropic summit]

nice that it worked, gj

[whole pawn]

thx guys , atleast my 3 h of sitting was worth it

[tropic summit]

ya it's good, time invested for yourself

[whole pawn]

especially rail

[tropic summit]

remember me if you ever become a CEO or something

[fickle swift]

Yooo thanks for the comp earlier feels good I can retook easily in 15 mins lol

[whole pawn]

man, I should go mald that sr

it's 1 am here

[tropic summit]

same, but its saturday the night is young

[umbral belfry]

Last question, think we're good on my team for now?

[whole pawn]

malding in nikke makes time Go faster

[tropic summit]

uh let's see

[umbral belfry]

want me to repost my box?

[tropic summit]

considering this... i think you'd rather have 2 proper teams and a CP padded one perhaps? 🤔

[tropic summit]

yeah link it again

[umbral belfry]

not having jackal or biscuit is a

[tropic summit]

try these, show CP afterward

[tropic summit]

yeah those would be quite good to have, add to that noah and scarlet

[umbral belfry]

this is my wishlist rn, high-key thinking of switching mordernia for Noah. but lemme try out your teams

[tropic summit]

well, as much as pvp is fun and games, campaign progress has priority, so mod it's not a bad decision as she'll help on certain stages and bosses

[umbral belfry]

blanc is used twice per the chart but my cp

[tropic summit]

mhm that's fine wanted to see the CP

we won't improve much afterall, keep the older teams for now

upgrade them once you find the nikke we mentioned, atm that's probably as far as we can push 🤔

[umbral belfry]

gotcha gotcha, ty again!

[shell hazel]

as good as Mod is I think Rapi kind of does the same job now, MG / Fire etc

you could swap in Noah for her, grab a Noah (or another pilgrim) and re-add Mod back in

[umbral belfry]

hmmm that's a fair point actually

[shell hazel]

I want one of them all eventually and have same issue 😄

[umbral belfry]

soon

[uncut portal]

I need help about 3 Vs 3 Arena

[tropic summit]

shoot, what's up

[quick lake]

I can feel it! Mana is PVP META

[uncut portal]

I'm use team like this but still got defeated so I want to fix it.

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

whale almost 381

he is making sure we keep 70 levels gap

[tropic summit]

might i suggest this

[umbral crown]

i gain 1 level, he gets 1 level as well

imma ask devs to sell me a custom pack of 20-40 levels

[grizzled bone]

so there's been talks before about creating a guide but the motivation has died down and the interest in it has always varied especially since theres so many resources available. But will keep this in mind

a lot of us are busy with irl stuff too

[quick lake]

Yeah I und! Guides always a lot of work

[tropic summit]

hmm those teams are already kinda strong as is, what's rosanna investiment/OL lines btw? Also, post your box of nikke in order of strength so we can see if something else can be arranged

[quick lake]

T1 doesnt look 3RL

[tropic summit]

it actually is, running a similar team myself

[vapid lake]

She'll be trash so we can all save our gems trust

[quick lake]

oh wow, exactly 100

[tropic summit]

as long as she's as bad as emilia

[uncut portal]

Doll SR 10 OL ATK 47.24%

[quick lake]

My rosanna only has 190k cp

Still needa invest

[tropic summit]

yeah that's pretty damn strong

maybe we can shift around your teams to make a 2.5RL rosanna with scarlet

[quick lake]

Yeah, weak point is team 1 and 3

Opponent would easily run 2.5RL ScarJack for T1, and run Noah Cindy T3

[uncut portal]

Hmmm and how to fix this problem?

[quick lake]

Defence is never perfect tbh. U should still be top 7 easily though?

My best successes has been 1) 17% cs on my RL 2) Figuring out my opponent(s) attack times

[uncut portal]

I'm around 2-5 position.

[tropic summit]

yeah those OL's can turn a match around

[tropic summit]

does your emilia have 21% charge speed?

[uncut portal]

yes

[quick lake]

I can run 3x 2.5RL, which is pretty OP in my view

[tropic summit]

yeah forces the hand at least harder than 3RLs would

[quick lake]

Rosanna is not that scary anymore, given she cant OHKO nowadays and cindy too

[swift mango]

Just want to share the case of 2rl with feed vs 2rl without feed here.

[tropic summit]

can you show us your nikke roster ordered by strength? i'm thinking about 2 teams:

i need to see what kind of clip SG you've built to fit a 2RL cindy aswell

[quick lake]

Empty P2?

[tropic summit]

nah i need a clip SG, waiting for the dude roster

[uncut portal]

about this.

[tropic summit]

also unfortunately the empty spot on defense doesn't work, it will move the nikke to make a 4 team side by side

[quick lake]

Me 485 sync vs opponent’s 496 sync
Moran Bay vs Noise Cindy reference
SBS not enough dmg

[uncut portal]

did you ever try SBS blanc redhood centi jackal?

[glad meteor]

Noise noah decoy

[quick lake]

This showcase was mostly to show that Moran Bay can survive Cindy nuke. Mostly for testing purposes

[uncut portal]

Ah I see.

[quick lake]

Usually I still win him hehe

[uncut portal]

but I think mostly people doesn't raise her.

[tropic summit]

how about these 3?

[uncut portal]

Include me

[quick lake]

Yeahh, mostly doing some testing for CA teams

[tropic summit]

the post nuke hits are melting bay

although it does give you SOME time to do something

[quick lake]

Maybe if I had Moran at SR15

Team still seems pretty iffy, but it works somewhat. Needa invest more. If the team is at 2.5RL, Moran dmg reduction comes faster and she’ll tank much longer

[tropic summit]

that does sound interesting

damage reduction could also be the late game goat

[patent niche]

I'd like some team comp suggestions. Mainly was holding CH2 - 6 position for awhile but then I cut back investment on PVP units since a few weeks ago. Too much maths involved 😆 . I have almost all units except some key units like repunzel and some that may not have adequate investment. Hard to split resources between raid and pvp units.

[quick lake]

Will need to take a break for pvp investments. Need to focus on pve soon

[uncut portal]

I'm give up on solo raid.

[tropic summit]

i already had to condede and start investing in alice, she's almost done... but then afterward there's rrh

[quick lake]

SAME

[uncut portal]

Only pray for 3%

[quick lake]

My Rapi and Grave still no OLs

[quick lake]

My devices cant do 60FPS, worse with Rapi now

[tropic summit]

just for info, is laplace treasured and how invested is your rosanna

[uncut portal]

PC version never disappoint you.

[patent niche]

laplace is not treasured or invested. Rosanna no OL gear and only 4 into s1.

[uncut portal]

use PC when it come to raid.

[quick lake]

Potato pc too

[tropic summit]

oke that's fine, thanks

[patent niche]

I put all my recent resources into SBS and RRH

[uncut portal]

Still not sure I can get 3% in the end or not.

I'm don't have asuka -*-

[quick lake]

SEA/NA server?

[uncut portal]

SEA

[vapid lake]

if on SEA it might not be safe, theres a chance its 8.5b

[quick lake]

Bless u

[uncut portal]

I'm think too.

[patent niche]

I know there are some inconsistencies with my current defense but sometimes players are attacking me 3x. I'm thinking it's not even worth spending 100 crystals to do that.

[quick lake]

Global is so easy

[vapid lake]

even global is like 6.3b this season

for 3%

[grizzled bone]

that's it?

[uncut portal]

Some time you need to give up.

[quick lake]

Yeah, global ezpz truly

[vapid lake]

the rapipipi inflation is real

[tropic summit]

naga centi cind bsoda noise
scarlet blanc rh xmaiden jackal
noah biscuit rumani s.anis alice

cubes:

quantum on centi, jackal, rumani
vigor on blanc, biscuit, noise, rumani
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis, s.anis must be lvl 9 burst skill
any other nikke run highest available cube

notes:

consider wishlist/build rapunzel for variation on T3

[uncut portal]

I don't understand,Why SEA is more competition when it come to raid.

[glad meteor]

Lower total people

[vapid lake]

average player is more tryhard and low population

[quick lake]

More sweaty average player

[glad meteor]

Top 200 is easier there

[quick lake]

Casuals in SEA more hardcore than casuals in Global

[vapid lake]

is this still in top 200?

[terse dragon]

Tested an interesting team. Ludmilla R0 and Moran SR10

[glad meteor]

Ludmilla stronk

[tropic summit]

hmm looks like moran carried, bay just got SG'ed to death, then taunt got stuck on lud and moran? 🤔

[glad meteor]

S2 ludmilla?

[terse dragon]

yes

[quick lake]

Wow! Thanks for sharing! Really appreciate it

[worthy knoll]

[tropic summit]

more stall variations are scary

[quick lake]

Merry is intrigued by all teams stall

[tropic summit]

Merry's nero is still scarier at least

[worthy knoll]

Err.. you can search my post here

Do you think I never mentioned Lud

[uncut portal]

Extend full burst time with soda?

[worthy knoll]

[uncut portal]

Nice tip

[terse dragon]

yes

[quick lake]

Lud dmg reduction is 15s alr, so with or without BSdoa should be fine

[tropic summit]

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

did you have temperance on both lud and moran? 🤔

[patent niche]

you have quantum and vigor on rumani or maybe you're saying either works

[tropic summit]

both work, if you can spare a vigor all gud, else just give her quantum

[quick lake]

Wow, the team is perfectly 3RL with q7

[tropic summit]

actually, i think i know someone who could be interested in that team

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor give that a look later

[vapid lake]

nah that team doesn't have mica

[quick lake]

How does the team face against Cindy opponents?

[uncut portal]

Moran take all nuke so I think it's fine with nuke.

but the real problem is cindy shot really strong too.

[quick lake]

Moran alone not enough to survive. Need Moran + Bay. But the problem is mostly after the burst nuke

Surprised Ludmilla even dies with 57% + 35% + 8% dmg reduction

[uncut portal]

Cinddy shot hit's hard.

and that decoy also troublesome

[quick lake]

It was mostly from SAnis. Cindy no splash dmg

[grizzled bone]

what's your Moran burst level?

[glad meteor]

Probably starts taking damage after moran falls off

[quick lake]

Oh thats true as well

[worthy knoll]

Moran only last 10 seconds.. and DR doesn't matter if the one being hit is not Lud and it shares it to her

[terse dragon]

10

[glad meteor]

Back when i was coping

[uncut portal]

Moran can use for defense or not?

[terse dragon]

If cindy is 2RL speed, I don't think my team can win

[uncut portal]

I have 0 star so I never think about raise her.

[quick lake]

Really appreciate showing us the vid will now go think about how to cook with lud

[keen vapor]

He just like me fr

[uncut portal]

To win against this comp,I need moran from take all damage from SBS right?

[terse dragon]

I don't think this is a good choice on special Arena. I plan to use it on the Arena of Champions

[grizzled bone]

makes sense.

[terse dragon]

[uncut portal]

I never thought about that

[quick lake]

See u top 200

[uncut portal]

I's already pass two year but still not a clue at all.

[umbral crown]

It would be mostly to not let our rival knows you have an invested moran

[tropic summit]

yeah a p1 taunter and biscuit will reduce sbs dmg to 0, as distributed damage on invulnerable unit will result in no dmg

[swift mango]

Better than me OL Grave but keep getting 1 lines or CS, CD.

Wasting rocks just to CP pad Grave up...

[upper grove]

Mana is surely a non feeding B1 buffer who can also dispel enemy buffs

[swift mango]

Which faction is Mana again?

[umbral belfry]

the guy that keeps targeting me is starting to win less now

there's hope?

although i am curious how I'm winning def with such a large deficit between us

[umbral crown]

Maybe boi got.tired and startes to test CA teams

[umbral belfry]

[swift mango]

Which faction is Mana again? Hope not Terra

[glad meteor]

I heard missilis, works for syuen apparently

I don’t read lore though

[swift mango]

Yeah if it's Scientist, Engineer or anything mechanical then it's 99% Missilis.

[raven plover]

pvp unit?

[winged quiver]

Am I the only one experiencing disconnected errors when doing PVP?

[tropic summit]

nope, we've a thread on it

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1321849066266689607

[winged quiver]

This even happens in my phone now

[tropic summit]

it can happen to anyone, randomly, although changing teams generally seems to at least prevent it on subsequent attempts

matches still seem to go through

[umbral crown]

imagine doing pvp, would not be me

[keen vapor]

:deadge:

[grizzled bone]

[grizzled bone]

Unlikely

[raven plover]

[keen vapor]

So nitro :deadge:

[grizzled bone]

Just whale

[keen vapor]

It'll cost me too much

[coarse lake]

mana unfortunately likely a niche pve raid unit at best

[grizzled bone]

Show your stash

[quick lake]

Ur gem pile is really growing

Saving for nikke 3?

[keen vapor]

MLB Chime my beloved

[keen vapor]

And core 7 Ikaros, but it won't be this year :frog sip:

[quick lake]

u can core7 both

[coarse lake]

who tf is ikaros

[grizzled bone]

I didnt even notice that. @keen vapor por qué¿

[muted stag]

that worked thx

[keen vapor]

I have goals beyond your understanding

[keen vapor]

https://youtu.be/0AgDbAT56I0?si=AbDAOoVZ48wH6QDE

[grizzled bone]

Explica por favor

[glad meteor]

Do you reset dispatch ?

[keen vapor]

I joined the game bc Heaven's Lost Property was an option for ONE collab survey

Is kind of a miracle for that series to be noticed but is also very fitting with Nikke

So, I must core 7 her

[keen vapor]

Almost everyday

[glad meteor]

How many times?

Sometimes i go crazy

[quick lake]

SAO/GGO eventually surely

[keen vapor]

1 or 2

More than that will make buying from shop/doing wipeout more worth than dispatch

[keen vapor]

Unless we talking about doll mats...

[glad meteor]

I do it mostly for core + doll mats

[keen vapor]

Bc you can't get those anywhere else

[glad meteor]

Doll mats specifically

[keen vapor]

MLB Sinon

[grizzled bone]

@umbral crown @rich quail please bully this man

[glad meteor]

2/3 blues or doll boxes instead of mats boxes

[quick lake]

All the 2000-2010+ animes

[keen vapor]

I MUST BELIEVE SPECIALLY AFTER THEY REALIZED RANDOM POPULAR IP DOESN'T WORKS

Like, Oshi no ko? What are they thinking?

[umbral crown]

[quick lake]

Hey, Oshi no ko is great. Just bad collab idea

[keen vapor]

Give Kanna a pistol.... Actually Ruby... No it was a knife

[grizzled bone]

@umbral crown @rich quail evidence in question. 216k gems. Book em

[keen vapor]

It was a bad idea after all

[quick lake]

Did u mlb Rapi at least

[grizzled bone]

Did you even pull for Fapi?

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

I did....

[grizzled bone]

And...

[umbral crown]

Will cost much with 216k gems

[keen vapor]

I have her...

[umbral crown]

Do not be a verguenza sin

[grizzled bone]

And?...

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Why I would MLB when I can't 60 FPS

[quick lake]

Did u MLB SBS? then

[umbral crown]

Bricker than before

[quick lake]

SBS definitely dont need 60fps

[grizzled bone]

DID YOU MLB SBS AND NOT FAPI?

[umbral crown]

Excuses

[quick lake]

I think he didnt mlb either

[keen vapor]

Listen, it just feels like I get Pilgrims at 2 limit break max

[grizzled bone]

Its joever

Leave

[umbral crown]

Jus demote this echo

[keen vapor]

For some reason the Pilgrim mold just does this, 2 stars at most and it will switch target

[keen vapor]

Right now is on Noah 1 star

The curse continues

[quick lake]

Idk why u wouldnt mlb banner pilgrims

[grizzled bone]

You're saving for Nikke the sequel at this point

[keen vapor]

Bc I didn't got Modernia/Rapunzel lobby with the last mold

[grizzled bone]

You could be 3% player in SRs

[rich quail]

He is already Private rank

[pastel narwhal]

[rich quail]

Any worse and he’d be civilian

[grizzled bone]

Echo you did you finish campaign?

[keen vapor]

Main story yes

[grizzled bone]

Where are you in hard?

[keen vapor]

Is just Nihilister on hard mode...

[grizzled bone]

Somebody hold me back

[keen vapor]

[grizzled bone]

HOLD ME BACK

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[grizzled bone]

BOUT TO CRASH OUT

[keen vapor]

TASKETEEEEEEEE

[grizzled bone]

Once new chapters are out and you finished them please level up at least

[keen vapor]

Ig this is how Caishen thinks about me
https://youtu.be/67drzDiEub4?si=usj8Z13yOhHz9OoW

[grizzled bone]

You should be 381 by now

[keen vapor]

Gems doesn't buys enough core dust

Most I can do is 359

[grizzled bone]

But you could have had enough dupes on units to help you get there cuz I know you're not using the rest of your stash

[rich quail]

So now we hoarding core dust, gems

Most likely he hoards battle data as well

[keen vapor]

Mobile FPS

[grizzled bone]

Qué

You auto anyway

[keen vapor]

How did you....

[grizzled bone]

... how do you have uneven cd to credits ratio

[rich quail]

@keen vapor You’re falling behind more and more

[keen vapor]

It goes down sooner that you might expect guys, before it was 7k battle data

[keen vapor]

So close :hu tao why:

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

I only overload at the right moments maybe?

[grizzled bone]

So all the credit were leftovers?

[keen vapor]

Wait, with battle data conversion..... I might be like 365 max

[grizzled bone]

No. Dont convert all your BD

[keen vapor]

That's why I'm adding myself only 5 levels?

[grizzled bone]

Just hit the milestone then save for next

[keen vapor]

Right...

[grizzled bone]

Watching you

[keen vapor]

[rich quail]

@grizzled bone to be fair

last month @keen vapor was 31 levels behind me

Now he’s 17 levels behind

And this is me leveling up 20 levels in the past 36 days

So he is putting in some work

But @keen vapor you should be surpassing me by at least 20 levels

So u better shape up

Or I will take your cd cases for meself

[keen vapor]

20? Isn't that too much brick?

[grizzled bone]

ET on a higher plane

Surrounded by enemies

[keen vapor]

Why I'm being bullied for not having gambling addiction

[umbral crown]

now imagine hoarding skill books

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

Oh lordy

[umbral crown]

the issues are real

[grizzled bone]

No one here is gambling. And this convo is about you

[grizzled bone]

Show us

[keen vapor]

It was right there... On the battle data screenshot

[umbral crown]

[grizzled bone]

No no no show us the others

[keen vapor]

I'm broke on blue mats

[rich quail]

Liar

[keen vapor]

I am

[rich quail]

Show us, or we gonna have an intervention on our hands

[grizzled bone]

https://tenor.com/view/yazarkeolog-gif-19419563

[keen vapor]

[grizzled bone]

The books aren't bad

[keen vapor]

See? I'm broke on blue mats

[grizzled bone]

But those doll mats

[quick lake]

I have more core dust than u

[umbral crown]

bricking?

adn you yold me you were waiting for hard mode to hit 501

[quick lake]

All planned

[grizzled bone]

show

[grizzled bone]

Whatre you saving the doll kits for?

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-lying-fatima-sistas-s4e12-youre-not-telling-the-truth-gif-25985764

[keen vapor]

Miranda

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

now go 521

do not make do the thing

https://tenor.com/view/doro-nikke-dorothy-gif-4211944325118705977

[quick lake]

I have like 800h+ of core dust maybe

[umbral crown]

imma whip them

[grizzled bone]

Show so I can

[keen vapor]

Those were of 2 hours : crown nervous:

[grizzled bone]

I hope this is not serious

[keen vapor]

She's my first SSR and one of my first MLB as well

[grizzled bone]

Hand in your badge and gun

[keen vapor]

nande?

[grizzled bone]

You're on paid suspension.

You'll have to attend mandatory psych evaluations before we put you in the field again

[keen vapor]

[grizzled bone]

https://tenor.com/view/turn-in-my-badge-michaela-stone-manifest-quit-the-force-turn-in-the-badge-gif-22007598

[rich quail]

Giv’ ‘im th’ shiv!

[quick lake]

Okay echo still has more than me

[rich quail]

[rich quail]

U can’t outhoard Echo

[keen vapor]

[grizzled bone]

[keen vapor]

Good night

[umbral crown]

saving for nikke 3?

[quick lake]

Saving for new chapters :pepeh:

[umbral crown]

sus

[quick lake]

[umbral crown]

thats what most people say and they never open boxes

bricking themselves

[quick lake]

If I wait until new chapters, should be able to get +2 core dust per hour

[umbral crown]

and then waits to get 3,4,5,6,...

[coarse lake]

downside is you lose hard campaign progress, costing you core dust

we ain't getting next chapter for like 3 months

[quick lake]

I wouldnt be able to push hard campaign as well need 501 sync, so still far

[keen vapor]

1.5*

[quick lake]

No Ein to fight MC too. So cant clear before 501

So just chill

[coarse lake]

?

isn't next chapter half anni

[keen vapor]

We got chapters on second anni and we're on January already

Actually less than 1 month away

Should be like 3 weeks

2 weeks+x days

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

So close

[umbral crown]

Sus

[umbral crown]

Why did not you use selector to get Ein then

[quick lake]

Cause I used it to get Bay

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

I can't use core dust now

[umbral crown]

the brick is real

[coarse lake]

[keen vapor]

I'm excused

[coarse lake]

echo is waiting for 5 months after last story update to use boxes

so, he's never using them

[umbral crown]

If he waited 5 months, can also wait 1 year

[quick lake]

Honestly his stash is alright. Thats like.. 3 months of hoarding maybe

[umbral crown]

3 months...

[keen vapor]

Let's go for my second year of hoarding

[umbral crown]

3rd soon

[quick lake]

New chapters update should be Feb hopefully

[umbral crown]

Imagine waiting... while rivals getting stronger

[loud sonnet]

[swift mango]

Find your nearest loan shark.

[swift mango]

What? They r gonna have Oshi No Ko Collab? Imma skipping eva2.

[quick lake]

Rezero collab rerun plzzzzz

I promise to mlb Emilia

[fickle swift]

Can anyone help me winning against this team?

[winged quiver]

ignore his 3rd team, use your 2nd team on 1st team and just Scarlet team his Scarlet BS team

swap places of Noise with Maiden

[fickle swift]

Noice thank you

[cyan shell]

Can anyone please help me build special arena teams?

[quick lake]

T1: Blanc Biscuit SAnis BSoda Rumani
T2: Scar Crown Centi RH Jackal
T3: Noise Noah Cindy Noir Emilia
Pretty standard comps.

Alternatively can try more interesting ones:

T4: Moran Biscuit SAnis BSoda Rumani
T5: Scarlet Blanc RH Centi Jackal
T6: Scarlet Mari/xAnne Rosanna Centi Jackal
T7: Blanc Emilia RH BSoda Rumani

U practically have all the good pvp units at high cp/investments

[cyan shell]

Thank you so much! I'm challenger in my arena but people keep targeting me with my current build

[quick lake]

Yeah happens. Defence is never perfect

[swift mango]

Use a level 1.

[warped cedar]

When is the next union raid?

[wild badge]

end of the month

[swift mango]

I doubt it was 3 months. If it was 3 months then he should be at whale level. You gain around 20 levels a month.

The Rank 1 in his bracket only 60ish lv above him

[lunar dirge]

wait till i force you to open cd chests

[tacit goblet]

Looking for some help for a pvp build.

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Blanc+RH+Anis+Jackal

Noise+Noah+ASS+Rapunzel+LaplaceT

Crown+PurePunzel+Biscuit+Cindy+SBS

[tacit goblet]

thank u

[swift mango]

Wishlist Rumani and Centi. When you get Rumani, replace Purepunzel with her.

[upper grove]

Where RL dolls

[swift mango]

At least you get SG dolls, I couldn't get both.

[upper grove]

I'm not even using SG units, new units ate all my resources

[swift mango]

I have gotten totally 1 SR RL and 2 SR SG from random SR since the start of doll system.

And I have 8 RL with SR doll on.

Wait it's 9...

Selector carried my account

[upper grove]

SR5 or SR0?

[swift mango]

Eh it's actually 10....

[tropic summit]

how it started vs how it's going

[swift mango]

Other than biscuit with sr0. Cindy, Laplace with SR15. The rest sr5.

Sacrifice too much SR doll for selector... My Rumani and Anis still R15...

These are my RL units with SR dolls aside from Anis and Rumani...

[tropic summit]

SR15 i might have 4 or 5... SR5 a bit more

[swift mango]

I have more SR15 ofc but not RL.

[tropic summit]

oh ye not RL indeed

[upper grove]

I'm still missing RL dolls for Rumani, Rapunzel, Bay and Anis

[swift mango]

You are losing ground rather than catching up. Though.

[tropic summit]

ye, opponent is a spender

at some point i'll have to ignore ch1, again

[spiral onyx]

I think I've used a total of 4 selectors on RL dolls. So many RLs in PvP, plus a small handful of important ones for PvE

[spiral onyx]

There's no such thing as catching up, only falling behind less

[swift mango]

Yeah, I think I'm the unluckiest guy in getting SR RL in this chat.

[spiral onyx]

(until people hit level cap, then it's actually catching up)

[tropic summit]

aye, so true

[lunar dirge]

expected,every single level up oh his shouls give around 2,5k at that point

[swift mango]

TBF though, 475k is very low for his level so it's still very beatable to me.

Dude better just Auto team for 600k-700k power and it would be a better def comp.

Against you.

[tropic summit]

oh they do have an auto team (of sort)

[keen vapor]

I mentioned it bc is crazy to even consider it at all and put it on the collab surveys

Most likely I get robbed by Lycoris Recoil however

[swift mango]

Yeah, this is a much harder team to beat than the earlier one lol

[tropic summit]

wait... we gonna have idols with guns?

although having a Kana killing raptures might be something

[keen vapor]

I never get RL SR dolls so I must use almost every selector

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

4 I don't like opening them either

[tropic summit]

as expected from stockpile mastah

[quick lake]

Im lacking R dolls

[keen vapor]

Kana

[swift mango]

Maybe if they ever consider Collab with another gacha. Honkai Impact would be nice... We have many humanoid girl with world destroying power level over there... Game also inspired by Eva. So no worrying about not fitting the theme of this game.

The Bronya would crush all these Rapture into dust...

[quick lake]

Does MHY ever do any collab?

[tropic summit]

there have been really a tiny number of collabs and some are still in planning

although as far as i remember they've been rather dissapointing

[quick lake]

yeah, i dont rmb much collabs done

[tropic summit]

there's a fate collab coming for HSR and a SF collab for ZZZ

genshin had a collab with Horizon Dawn, but it's a pure joke

[quick lake]

oh whut, SF with zzz? Must have missed that 👀

[raven plover]

me searching doraemon collab on nikke survey

[tropic summit]

yeah something along these lines

https://dotesports.com/zzz/news/zenless-zone-zero-is-zzz-getting-a-street-fighter-collaboration

[swift mango]

Man thirsty for those Shizuka and Jaiko's asses

[keen vapor]

Pls Girls Frontline 1

[keen vapor]

Please keep calling me like that

[quick lake]

gfl2 with nikke. Probably a matter of when, not if

[keen vapor]

Where sopmod

[tropic summit]

before worrying about more collabs anyway we need a few filler banners to re-stock on gems, last banners have been killing me

[upper grove]

I'm starved of everything

[swift mango]

I had been already dead by the time of last banner.

[wicked horizon]

How do I f this guy?

[swift mango]

Swap team 1 and 2. You have a higher chance that way.

[wicked horizon]

What

[swift mango]

Also, move Alice to p1 or 2.

[wicked horizon]

I don't think team 2 has any chance against any of their teams. I need more extensive changes.

While Team 1 can take any of their teams.

[swift mango]

Well, your team 2 vs their team 1 would be basically a normal attack shot out after you kill their Noise with your whole team focus fire on her. So you have a chance to win.

[quick lake]

Just 5SG Team 1 and kill their Noise ezpz

[wicked horizon]

Noise too tanky, I won't be able to before they burst.

[quick lake]

They're a 4RL team or slower. Should be able to kill in 4+ RLs

[wicked horizon]

No chance. I don't believe it at all.

[quick lake]

[wicked horizon]

Maybe half health.

[quick lake]

Can probably try Blood's advice

[upper grove]

just try it

[wicked horizon]

I'll lose an attempt. Then what?

[swift mango]

You could add your Highest CP unit to p4 of team 3 and see how much that gets you to.

[wicked horizon]

247k

[tropic summit]

post your box, we can probably form 2 teams that can take their slower ones out

[upper grove]

I see Emilia on opponent's team is 290 high or nah?

[tropic summit]

their T3 has tia in p1 so it will further slow it from 3RL anyway, as long as she lives

the choice of scar-jack on their high feed teams is a good one, the second team can be any nuke on 3RL

[swift mango]

290 is kinda on the low side for an account at end of Emi banner.

[wicked horizon]

Bro, I'm at 261

[swift mango]

But still an okay level.

[upper grove]

I see, then 261 makes things more difficult

[wicked horizon]

Gimme a minute. Need to put the pictures together...
Wish I could just export them somehow...

[tropic summit]

take ur time

[wicked horizon]

Should be everyone of relevance.

I mean, it's everyone except collab characters and Red Hood.

And XAnne

[swift mango]

Actually, I would say 290 is a good level if the account started exactly on the last week of Emi banner. So it's fine.

[wicked horizon]

Top of the ladder be like 💀

[tropic summit]

is laplace treasured btw?

[wicked horizon]

Sure is

[swift mango]

I started 3 weeks before Emi event and I'm 327.

1 month is about 20 level or close. So A guy starting 6 weeks later than me getting 290 is good enough.

[wicked horizon]

Where'd my levels go? 😭

[quick lake]

Did u use gems to buy event tries? to farm hard 1-11

[wicked horizon]

Not until half a year in, yeah...

[quick lake]

Hm yeah, probably that

[tropic summit]

ok i think i got your teams sorted out @wicked horizon , have you already tested your current scarlet blanc liter against their noise team and if she can wipe them in a nuke?

[lunar dirge]

look,it's a bum,laugh at him🫵

[wicked horizon]

I'm like 92% confident she can.

[tropic summit]

oke then you should be good with these

[tropic summit]

double check CP for T3, but you should be in range

ensure laplace and jackal have quantum on

you can give temperance to noah
vigor to biscuit and rapu
s.anis must have resil and burst lvl 9

rest you're fine

[wicked horizon]

How do I read this?
My teams on the left?

[tropic summit]

yes your teams on left, opponent on right

we could run a T2 test for the luls aswell

run this for T2:

[swift mango]

Check deficit before you go.

If your team CP/theirs > 0.846 then you are good. Otherwise, beware of stat reduction. 0.7 or less and you should just give up.

[wicked horizon]

Ye, third team is at 16.1% deficit, which is no good.
I'll see if I can allocate a cube.

[tropic summit]

T3 should be in range, based on investiment at least

assuming it reaches up to 305k like T1 tho

with 305K you'd be 14,6% deficit

[wicked horizon]

What's a Temprance cube.

[tropic summit]

you don't have it? it's fine give her vigor instead

what's CP once cubes are set, just to get an idea

we could rotate T3 to T2 or merge with cindy nuke and commit to T2 in worse case scenario

[wicked horizon]

298.8k - 15.4% deficit

Fixed

Guess I'll try it

[swift mango]

15.41% deficit and you would still getting stat reduction m

[wicked horizon]

15.382%

[tropic summit]

hmm

rather not risk it

commit T3 to T2 and it's probably easier

[wicked horizon]

You think it's still at a deficit?
Looks good to me...

[swift mango]

That's outside stat reduction range already. I do at that range often enough to hit my whale.

[wicked horizon]

I'll do it. I have faith in you.

[swift mango]

Have faith in your own math more like

[wicked horizon]

I've gotten to the nationals three times.

[tropic summit]

this might be safer approach, up to you

it's still interesting if you run former matchup although, might work out

[swift mango]

Nice that you have his box

Nvm he posted it in the comments

[tropic summit]

yeah he posted it earlier #pvp-arena message

[wicked horizon]

I lost, but...
I'm glad I tried. This was the most exciting match I've seen in the third round.

[tropic summit]

try again against T2 then, CP will be much better there

[wicked horizon]

Crown and Biscuit duking it out against RH and Emilia.

[swift mango]

Did their Emi Nuke still one shot you or your Noah caught it?

[wicked horizon]

Noah caught it, but they also had a Noah so we just stared at each other for a little while.

[tropic summit]

CP made the difference there i think @swift mango

post nuke emi also kinda still hurts

[wicked horizon]

Oh, their RH had literally 1 HP left. Like, any upgrade would beat them.

[quick lake]

shoud have gone with my 5SG kill noise idea

[swift mango]

Well, it was 1 buff Emi (from Tia) Liter doesn't buff Emi at all.

I was thinking about it could be 3.5rl vs 4rl but I guess it didn't happen. Maybe their Emi/centi had CS.

[tropic summit]

SG execution squad

[swift mango]

Assuming they have 3 more SG invested.

[wicked horizon]

Okay, nice. Got 'em. ❤️

[swift mango]

I could barely field a 3.5rl SG team... And that needs RH b1-2...

[wicked horizon]

2nd round was close. Almost got wiped after the invuln ended.

[tropic summit]

worked on T2 i guess?

[wicked horizon]

Mhm

[tropic summit]

oki nice, you could retry on T3 once you get better CP

[wicked horizon]

I need to start investing more into my PvP units.

Wanna get to challenger.

[tropic summit]

s.anis will target highest atk% first (unless taunted), specifically 2 at a time... she should ideally kill RH and emi first 🤔

[tropic summit]

nice spirit, go get em

[swift mango]

You could be the 2nd coming of

@keen vapor

In this chat.

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor right

[keen vapor]

Hoarder?

[swift mango]

🧱

[wicked horizon]

Wouldn't be fun if I had nowhere to climb. /s

Gotta cope somehow, okay.

[swift mango]

I remember you said you also started buying event tries for dust boxes after like 6 months .

[keen vapor]

It was 4

[wicked horizon]

They don't teach you this anywhere.

[quick lake]

True

[wicked horizon]

Commander school lacking fr

[keen vapor]

Military Academy mentioned MA!

[swift mango]

Okay you could be a higher effort Echo.

@wicked horizon

[wicked horizon]

Fellow Chime enjoyer?

[umbral crown]

Owo

[keen vapor]

Umu!

[keen vapor]

He started buying instantly?

[upper grove]

I started during EVA and saw those extra stages for gems, luckily looked it up what to use those for

[umbral crown]

So low SR15 you have

[swift mango]

6 month in, so worse than u

[upper grove]

you started buying after 4 months, he did after 6

[keen vapor]

Oh

[upper grove]

I'm sync 250 rn and could use boxes to get to 261

[umbral crown]

Whats your total SR15s?

[keen vapor]

It really is...

[swift mango]

Well, I also have Alice, DKW, Crown, RH with SR15. That's all I have

Not that lucky. And starting to refresh dispatch late.

[keen vapor]

Oh, good amount

[wicked horizon]

Discord says I asked the question on 25.09 on whether I should buy hard mode retries.

When was Re:Zero event?

[keen vapor]

March?

[wicked horizon]

So it is 6 months.

[swift mango]

Very end d of march

[keen vapor]

Anni at end of April

[swift mango]

They are only One Bay event apart

[keen vapor]

I skipped 😦

[swift mango]

You are lucky to still have bay.

[umbral crown]

Now this is something but waos, DKW with max doll

[keen vapor]

Make it 5

[wicked horizon]

How?

[umbral crown]

You keep hoarding kits till nikke 5

[keen vapor]

I haven't got the mats for R15 on D wife at all

[keen vapor]

Bc of this@wicked horizon

[wicked horizon]

Well, 25th september is the end of september.

[keen vapor]

Do you remember

[upper grove]

I started refreshing dispatch 2 months in, was worth

[keen vapor]

-# Song reference

[wicked horizon]

I love how she's wearing like 4 layers of clothing - latex suit, shirt, sweater, and then armor

[wicked horizon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tETJK4EG1aY

[keen vapor]

These days are very cold

[raven plover]

dkw sr15?

[quick lake]

no need sr15 dkw

[grizzled bone]

wanna dm me so i can look at your test matrix?

[quick lake]

yep sure!

[swift mango]

My DKW deal more dmg than my Asuka in a fire team. 🙃

[quick lake]

[glad meteor]

Put asuka p2

To target naga heal so asuka s1 trigger

[swift mango]

Thanks

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Do you open your boxes?

[wicked horizon]

Opened another ~2000 today sir

[swift mango]

Clear your campaign first everytime you level up...

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

[wicked horizon]

1 level won't save me.
But yes, I got to the breakpoint and back to campaign now.

I don't have enough boxes for 281 anyways.

[umbral crown]

Does not matter

Open all

[wicked horizon]

No

[umbral crown]

[wicked horizon]

That would be thousands if not over 10000 core dust wasted.

[umbral crown]

Nani

[swift mango]

So many people bricking in this chat. 🤔

[umbral crown]

Echo issues is spreading

[wicked horizon]

Going by rough numbers - 2000 hours of dust boxes opened at 63 vs, idk 66 CD/h is 6000 core dust.

And how, pray tell, will it help me to open them right now?

[umbral crown]

You do not need to think hard with 2 or 3 more core dust

[umbral crown]

More cp and the levels to avoid level gap, also opens nee ways to progress

[swift mango]

Just go clear campaign first

[wicked horizon]

Progress what? Campaign? That you're telling me not to progress before opening the boxes?

[umbral crown]

Npe, im tellin you open your boxes and your pvp experience will improve

[wicked horizon]

I'm comfortably in the 11-30 range right now and won't be pushing challenger even with the boxes just yet, I'm afraid.

[umbral crown]

Do not be , just go

[shell hazel]

are these new cubes any good for pvp? I just unlocked them today

my two quantums are on centi and jackal

main dps on resi/bastion but everyone else is basically whatever cube I can throw on them in my sp-arena teams

[swift mango]

No

Go Vigor, Tempering, Adjustant, quantum

[shell hazel]

let me map out my units/cubes quick

[copper creek]

also because i was alerted to some talk about guides

there were originally plans for a few of us to work on a one-stop shop pvp guide - but that seems unlikely to happen at the moment

for one, a certain drama kind of tilted all the contributors working on it off the face of the planet

[quick lake]

oh it was me who brought it up bout the guides

but yeah, caisheng mentioned alr

[shell hazel]

team 1
Scarlet - 4 Bastion
Grave - 3 Wingman
RH - 6 Resilience
Xmaiden - 3 Adjutant
Jackal - 3 Quantum

team 2
Naga - 3 Vigor
Cindy - 4 Bastion
Centi - 3 Quantum
Noir - 3 Assault
Noise - 3 Vigor

team 3
Crown - 6 Resilience
Biscuit - 3 Onslaught
RRH - 6 Resilience
Rapunzel - 3 Assault
Alice - 6 Resilience

[copper creek]

so even if that guide does come to fruition, i can guarantee u it will never be released here

[quick lake]

Welps

[copper creek]

and secondly, i dont think theres any merit to releasing a new pvp guide

[shell hazel]

I think I just threw on Grave / Xmaiden / Noir / Biscuit / Rapunzel with whatever cubes I had lmao

[copper creek]

any and all information anyone might need is already pinned here

unless someone has something specific they want to see in a guide that isnt already covered

[glad meteor]

How to beat 2 teams whilst on deficit

[shell hazel]

tempering is missing not unlocked it yet, it's one of the 2 I don't have

[copper creek]

cry, most likely

or - u're in rps - so just ask ely or merry or zixk 🤣

[quick lake]

What I suggested to caisheng was mostly common SPA teams/comps u can do. Something along cookie cutter SPA teams (similar to the list of teams echo, rail, alex suggests), or simply:
Scar-Jack synergy
Blanc + SAnis/SBS/Emilia
Noise + Cindy
thats about it

[strong hull]

hello kitchen

[quick lake]

Most of the pins are mostly pvp mechanics, and not so much on team building. Keripo's matrix are great, but hard to adapt them to general SPA teams

[copper creek]

sadly , we tried something like that before - it has been deleted already

[quick lake]

Aww

But yeah, i get where u're coming from

[copper creek]

but being entirely honest, it made little impact because people... either can't or don't read

[quick lake]

THAT is also very true

[copper creek]

that and/or they don't care to

[strong hull]

noise cindy we gonna run 3RL?

[copper creek]

as proof of that - a lot of people have asked me about various resources, but since that post was deleted, nobody asked zixk/me about it at all

absolutely 0

[quick lake]

Yeah.. that's true

To be fair, they wouldnt know who u guys are or who to ask in general

At least for the newer players

[copper creek]

zixk was far more active than every single current participant now combined, at the time if they wanted to ask they definitely knew who to ask lol

[quick lake]

Hmmm yeah thats true

[copper creek]

but if u guys wanna do it i think go ahead

just that - because i think i was alerted that the megaguide was mentioned here, it seems dead so dont expect that

[umbral crown]

We on the new pvp players generation

[copper creek]

i can tell u that theres a demo built

[lunar dirge]

🤝

[copper creek]

you type in a team - it spits out the counter

[lunar dirge]

good to be there

[quick lake]

Probably can wait until CA to see if there's renewed interest in pvp

[copper creek]

it worked reliably well in rookie but im not going to build it any further, it breaks the whole game mode

[swift mango]

Rheax started arena recently but he is 400+ so not that new.

[quick lake]

I literally only understood RL terms like max 2 months back

[copper creek]

if people are asking other players how to play the game, thats preferable to them asking a software program

[glad meteor]

Being new pvp gen is a mindset, time to combat power stack and run 4RL teams

[copper creek]

inb4 people cry to me again that we are being toxic/bm

[glad meteor]

Or team without b1, I’m struggling against cp def teams

[umbral crown]

Well, blood said it. @quick lake you are demoted to the old generation of players

[lunar dirge]

can't do that since my pve team is only 50k stronger than my scar jack

[strong hull]

I like how you cooking with that golden nuke scar+ jack

[lunar dirge]

mari*

[strong hull]

Gotta try rosanna one

[lunar dirge]

my crown team?

[strong hull]

Yes yes

Golden relife

[lunar dirge]

this one is specific,but it works

[strong hull]

2RL it is?