pvp-arena

[swift mango]

I'm thinking about 2.5rl

Centi+Biscuit+Cindy+Quiry+Noise.

[vapid lake]

[quick lake]

Yeah pretty smart

[vapid lake]

Me genius confirmed

[quick lake]

At 2.5RL speed, opponent’s 2RL double buffed scar cant exist

[swift mango]

I was using Quiry Sacr in Offense.... In defense I worry they would just avoid attacking p2 altogether.

[vapid lake]

They all laughed at me when i said it on the day cindy's skills got revealed on stream

they just can't comprehend how far ahead i was thinking

[quick lake]

Imo, Quiry there or not there at 2.5RL speed, wouldnt make a difference to attacking Scar-Jack comps

[swift mango]

That's defense team line up I posted there

Doesn't need exactly 2.5, 2.6-2.7 RL should be fine so Noise catch a 2rl burst 3.

[quick lake]

Yep yep exactly

[vapid lake]

Quiry treasure

Leggo

[swift mango]

Who have tried out

Scar+Grave+Pepper+Centi+Jack for SpA defense?

Or

Scar+Grave+XMaiden/TLaplace+Centi+Jackal?

I feel she would be good cope for lacking Xanne

[quick lake]

Yeah, I think she’s a decent replacement

[swift mango]

And it's not as bricking your skill book for PvE, S3lv10 her comparing to s3lv10 Xanne

Scarlet revived by XAnne doesn't have any buff on anyway.

[swift mango]

Do you know if units revived by XAnne would be still affected by Moran burst?

Not sure if Moran burst was on herself or for each member of the team. Gotta test in union training ground

[thorn marlin]

Yo chefs i trying help someone make PvP teams

Y’all can help?

[quick lake]

Hmm thats true. Not sure, but dont think so. Buff is snapshotted at point in time

[swift mango]

Noise+Noah+SBS+Rapunzel+Tia

Blanc+Rumani+Biscuit+Cindy+Emilia

Scarlet+Centi+RH+Anis+Jackal

[thorn marlin]

Thank you chef

I appreciate it

[swift mango]

If it's not working

@keen vapor

And get him to work

[silver siren]

Currently running this team but can't defend anymore

[swift mango]

Joking aside, if Scarlet team too low in CP, could remove Anis to add a CP pad.

[graceful grotto]

Can also try @thorn marlin

Noah-Scarlet-Red Hood-Noir-Jackal

Centi-Biscuit-Cinderella-Laplace (T)-Noise

SBS-Blanc-Emilia-Rapunzel-Rumani

mix and match around, ensure you have 2-3RL

[swift mango]

Try replacing ASS with SbS for a day.

[umbral crown]

mean while i still have not seen the first noah biscuit sanis team in sp yet

[silver siren]

Who is ASS?😅

[thorn marlin]

Thank you chef

[swift mango]

Someone who has a shower all days but her butts still stink.

[keen vapor]

[silver siren]

Ohh it's Anis Swim Suit

[keen vapor]

Me neither

[keen vapor]

Sparkling Summer

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

Also build bay or Rossana so you have more variety.

[glad meteor]

Pretty crazy

[keen vapor]

I have to reset Asuka first

[silver siren]

I have rosana build, just 3 OL with R doll

7 7 7 skill

[keen vapor]

That's not enough

[silver siren]

My moran, quary and nero also build

[swift mango]

Idk your bracket dynamic to judge if your CP is enough in the first place.

[silver siren]

Yeah if i drop red hood to rosana ,my cp will crash

[keen vapor]

@worthy knoll follower

[glad meteor]

Third team is scary. Centi can die before burst

4 ele noir when

[swift mango]

Max core

[silver siren]

Centi full build with sr doll 10

[swift mango]

Probably confident enough to not ded in 2rl

[glad meteor]

Time to get max core noir

[solid flare]

time for a new def, im loseing to a guy like this

[glad meteor]

Rei cook

Someone actually uses her

[solid flare]

i think that team is the sac team.

[swift mango]

Def just doesn't work well in arena.

Your teams look pretty low in CP when looking at this guy's 50 level lower than you's CP lol...

[glad meteor]

They probably attack your team 2/3

[glad meteor]

Core 5 noir

[solid flare]

i can attack them fine.

im just not defending well.

[quick lake]

Wow, 10/10/10 centi and Rapun

[swift mango]

With 50 level higher you probably could just auto 2 team and auto attack and still win

[solid flare]

should i shuffle team 3 around?

i was going for three fast teams.

but maybe three slower teams with idom is better?

[swift mango]

Try to build teams with auto to get high CP .

Or P2 lv1 Nikke matching their team's CP.

[glad meteor]

If your pvp units are 4ol, he should be cooked

[swift mango]

Be a proper Whale who knows how to bully.

[quick lake]

Ur teams are ~ 830k per team, while ur opponent at sync 410 has ~760k cp

[solid flare]

Im F2P

[glad meteor]

Are only your dps units overloaded?

[solid flare]

leme check

[quick lake]

Hmm, actually CP wise u're alright. Ur opponent's cored units makes a sizable difference

[solid flare]

noah T10-1/1/1/1
Biscuit T10-1/1/1/1
Scarlet: Black Shadow T10 5/5/5/5
Rapunzel T10 5/5/5/5
Noise T10-1/1/1/1
Scarlet T10 5/5/5/5
Laplass TreasureT10 4/4/4/1
Rosanna T10 1/1/1/1
X Anne T10 1/1/1/1
Jackal T10 1/1/1/1
Centi T10 2/2/2/2
Rumani T10 0/0/0/0
Cindy T10 5/5/5/5
Emilia(21% CS) T10 1/1/1/1
Maiden: Ice Rose T10 1/1/0 T9 Footwear

[glad meteor]

They are overloaded

[swift mango]

Try replacing Laplace with a lv80 mast, r doll her. Lv4 her s2.

[solid flare]

im just really anoyyed that they are one shot attacking.

[quick lake]

Probably just have to build better teams or mix them around

[glad meteor]

Scar without blanc can pretty weak.
Noah biscuit sanis is usually stronger than scalter
2rl usually means easier to counter if the opponent has burst gen units invested. Though only one b2 being in p1 makes it easier to beat

[solid flare]

what do i want from a mast?

[glad meteor]

Mast

Ros sacc

[quick lake]

Tbh, I just think his teams are slow thats why he's losing
3RL Noah SBS
3RL ScarJack
2RL Cindy

Can easily run 2x 2.5RL on Team 1 and 2 and easy clap

[glad meteor]

Scar blanc redhood probably stronger pressure i feel like. Though it should still be noah biscuit cindy’s unless it can cp maybe def hard

[solid flare]

does 2.5 LR speed mean anything if im not using shotguns?

[glad meteor]

Emi 21 can get gen in 2.5RL

[quick lake]

U generally SGs (or 17% cs) to get to 2.5RL speed

Like ur scarJack comp is exactly 3RL and even feed cant get it to 2.5RL, so that team is quite slow

[solid flare]

are the first 2 units not going to feed jackle?

[quick lake]

Still not enough feed

[solid flare]

or is that already in the calc?

should i just go back to
noah,team 1
blanc Biscuit idom team2
nuke team3?

all at 3RL?

[quick lake]

At 2.5RL u're at 71.7. If opponent feeds 20 bullets and assuming double feed thats:

20 * 2 = 40 bullets. Jackal feed => 4 * 3.55 = 14 (Since jackal provides 3.55% every 10 bullets)
71.7 + 14 = 85, still short by quite alot

I would also guess ur Rosanna should have more Atk than Laplace, so might not even be double feed

[solid flare]

laplace has more attack 173k 183k, 157k 125k 104k

[quick lake]

Taking into account ATK% OLs?

[solid flare]

just what the stats says

[quick lake]

Does ur Rosanna has atk% OLs?

[solid flare]

they both have 2 lines of 11.81

[quick lake]

Can probably try running a 2.5RL, 2.5RL, 3RL set up imo

[solid flare]

what would that look like?

the core max centi and rapunzle was because i used them to push campaign

[glad meteor]

I might try this one day. Don’t know if it’d hold though.

centi campaign meta times

[solid flare]

crown did not exist back then

[swift mango]

SBS doesn't work anymore in my bracket, had to replace with sbs

[glad meteor]

Replace sbs with sanis?

[solid flare]

Summer Anis was also campaign at one point.

so shes 10/10/10 5/5/5/5

[glad meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jam-stonks-stonk-jam-head-shot-hans-gif-21157324

[swift mango]

Yeah

[solid flare]

Ill try this as is then? cube placements?

[glad meteor]

I don’t know if it’ll hold

[quick lake]

Okay, I take that back. U need 17% cs lines

[glad meteor]

Best let them cook

[swift mango]

Typo, I meant amAss just doesn't work in my bracket anymore. And I had to use SbS instead

[solid flare]

Im not sure if this guy has a sukura for SBS teams.

[quick lake]

Realised 3RL teams are so slow now

[solid flare]

are we skipping ice roses' burst gen?

nither cook has ice rose

[quick lake]

Oh oops, forgot to add her in

[glad meteor]

I think i’d use these cubes

[glad meteor]

There’s a lot of burst gen units now

[solid flare]

which is useful in cindy/summer anis teams. icerose i mean

K what are you using to generate those images?

[quick lake]

https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[solid flare]

this si going to a million miles faster than my print screening erverytime.

[quick lake]

Well, in the end all defence comps can be broken. Alternatively get 17% CS line

[solid flare]

Im just tired of being one shot broken by a guy thats 50 levels below me

[quick lake]

Yeah, happens

[swift mango]

The story of my bracket CN whale.

What happened with Rheax post?

[quick lake]

In that site, u can see how 17% charge speed on Noah bumps up the team speed to 2.5RL from 3RL @solid flare

[swift mango]

If you aren't in worrying of other of same level beating you. You could try 2x 2RL team and a p2 lv80 Mast sarc team.

That's equivalent to having 3 x 2 RL team.

[quick lake]

Yeah, I think the sac idea is pretty great as Blood mentioned

[solid flare]

like this?18.21

[quick lake]

yes wow! U can use that site to reflect the 17% cs

[swift mango]

Now we know why your CP is low.

[quick lake]

My rolls are like this too though

[swift mango]

Can just reroll still rank totally 20.

If wanting more cp.

[quick lake]

Yeahhh, will probably reroll when I got more rocks to spare

[solid flare]

this counts for rapunzle as well right?

17.62

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Echo can just wish he is this high.

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

That's some very good luck though. My luck is shit.

[solid flare]

does this change how you guys cook?

[swift mango]

Well, you need many RL with similar CS together to make a difference.

[strong hull]

[keen vapor]

Or pair with grave

[swift mango]

Grave is basically a Mag RL with 0 CS usually

[quick lake]

Just need 2x 17% RL should work

[swift mango]

Clip RL that is. For Rapunzel it harder to use.

[keen vapor]

..... That's better than Yuni

[quick lake]

Need to reroll more lines on my units for CP

[quick lake]

Yeahhh

[quick lake]

U can cook much better teams with those 17% cs imo

[swift mango]

Executioner mode Yuni will crush you with her bare fist . 😈

[keen vapor]

💀

[swift mango]

You could check burst calculator for their burst gen individually, and match them yourselves to see if your 17% RLs shooting 1 more bullet would make your team original 2.5RL value 100. That would make your team 2.5rl.

For example Anis Regen 14.4 per RL, with 17%, a team with 86 point at 2.5RL would be 100 points and burst.

[quick lake]

An example team if u invested in 17% RL units

Just slap the 17% RL units tgt, and hope the team hits 2.5RL

[swift mango]

What is this? Your own calculator that you already edited?

[quick lake]

Yepp, just edited the values for 17%

[swift mango]

Send a copy here for science 🤔

[quick lake]

okok, gimme a sec

Needa convert from excel to google sheets

[covert lintel]

so we need 4cs line with at least 4.xx% each

[swift mango]

Could use Adjustant

To cheat a little.

And you don't need exactly 16.67% a bit smaller work just as well.

Usually

[bleak shale]

its usually a rounding thing

if u get bad rounding then u can be a bit short

[quick lake]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sdjUH2x0npQi1oEsEGDHAge3pu_RaH-lcPV1LWtab3c/edit?usp=sharing
Lmk if u can see and make a copy

[quick lake]

#pvp-arena message

Hopefully the google sheet isnt broken from importing into google sheets

[covert lintel]

apparently i only have 1 char that exceed 17%cs

[swift mango]

It works fine thanks. Now we need a pin for

Burst Calculator Rheax version. 👍

[quick lake]

Lemme make some edits

[solid flare]

should i run noise, red hood or rosanna here?

[swift mango]

Run a level 80 mast, move her to p2. 😀

/jk

[swift mango]

Both RH and Rossana need to be placed in p4. Noise isn't worth it.

[swift mango]

That t3 doesn't really make use of your 17% CS either...

[solid flare]

rosanna then, red hood steals jackle buuff

[swift mango]

Your Cindy team came from 2rl to 2.5rl

[solid flare]

im haveing trouble creating a team that uses blanc bis + sanis/SBS and still have enough burst gen lin the other 2 slots.

[raven plover]

rosanna max s2

[frank ingot]

what to do if this happens? its my first encounter of this

[swift mango]

Anyway you may want to have Rapunzel in P3 more than p5.

[quick lake]

Yeah, its a known bug. No confirmed way to resolve. Try restarting/ hitting campaign/ hit rookie/ then come back

[swift mango]

Try to edit your team around with different units before attacking again.

[frank ingot]

I'll try, thank you

[quick lake]

Generally u need 2 at least units with 17% to hit that 2.5RL. So with just Rapun and Noah is kinda tough

and Rapun burst gen is low as well

[frank ingot]

Thankfully, I only did play campaign one time and now it works. Thanks for the help

[glad meteor]

Quiry

[solid flare]

i dunno, my cooking kinda feels bad.

[frank ingot]

[quick lake]

Yeah, T3 u overshoot 2.5RL by 24%, which could have gone elsewhere

Shouldnt try to force fit ur 17% RL units

[solid flare]

im just trying to keep the blank idom team from not working.

21% emil could steal the idom

but rapunzle centi isn not enough to get it down to 3 RL in the Idom team.

trade team 3 cindy wiht emil

[quick lake]

That's a lot of 17% if u really want to invest

I have alot of 2.5RL team comps if u want, but u need the units to have those cs

[solid flare]

even without 17% on centi its still which is acceptable becuse of biscuet 3RL

[quick lake]

Yep. 17% only affects the 2.5RL mark. 2 & 3 RL speed is not affected at all

[solid flare]

this works right?

[quick lake]

U could realistically run 3x good 2.5RL teams

SAnis P2. Otherwise Indom will go to Centi

[solid flare]

anything else?

[quick lake]

Looks good! T1 Rumani in P5, Biscuit in P4

[solid flare]

whats the reason??

[quick lake]

Defending team's shotguns will aim at ur P5 biscuit, which will die

So generally u like to have Biscuited Defenders in P1 and P5 to protect both sides

[solid flare]

these are def teams?

[quick lake]

Yep, defend teams

[solid flare]

you mean their attacking team SG's will hit my P5?

[quick lake]

Like when u atk, ur opponent's defending team's SG will attack ur P5

[quick lake]

Yepp

[solid flare]

these are def teams. so my P5 slot only cares about their snipers.

[quick lake]

Yeah thats true

No harm putting Rumani in P5. If biscuit dies, ur invuln doesnt activate

[quick lake]

yep! Looks good

[quick lake]

Swap Rosanna from P3 to P4. Just in case Emi doesnt hit her

[solid flare]

like, this is the guy that's breaking me.

[quick lake]

Well, ideally you craft specific teams when attacking.

[solid flare]

im just showing their teams. i dont really need to tailor my teams into them lol.

welp i give up

[quick lake]

Happens. Defence never perfect

[solid flare]

i was just wondering if i was missing something or if there was a huge hole in my def.

maybe they hjust have a lock on my team 2.

[vapid lake]

To be honest even if u have 3 teams that u think are good at def, as long as your opponent knows how to build to counter/outspeed ur team comps you can't def

just pray they can't cook

Or cp gap

[coarse lake]

[coarse lake]

is #2 in cp range of you guys

what I've found, is you can figure out who is able to cook through almost every defense, is there someone higher than you that they can hit while being in cp range? if yes, they're not that good of a cook since they're not fighting them

and that means you can improve your def (easiest way is to just copy the higher up guy's def)

[solid flare]

the guy higher up

the number one slot is a whale so im not gonna bother.

[coarse lake]

they're not that good at cooks then

try to copy that setup as a first step ig

or just keep cooking

[solid flare]

i dont have moran

[coarse lake]

oh I just saw their team, they're basically copying it too (sorta)

run a indom scar

[solid flare]

the guy above's team 2 looks ike ass.

but sure.

[coarse lake]

don't have to run that specific one

they're probably barely in cp range

almost certainly beats your scar team

so make it indom scar/blanc/flex/flex/jackal

put cp stacking rls as flex, as long as team is at least 3rl

or just do indom, and cp stack your sanis team to the best of your ability

best if you can keep sanis team over 900k

[solid flare]

copying the team 1 and 2, leaves me red hood as team 3's burst 1

[coarse lake]

rh with sanis is fine

if copying that rumani cindy team, need 2x lvl 7 quantums on centi rumani, or 3x lvl 3 quantums on centi rumani maiden

[solid flare]

i wont have a good defender to run with the left over biscuit

[coarse lake]

what's your highest cp defender that isn't mg/ar/smg

gimme top 3

[solid flare]

after copying team 1 and 2? tia SR anis

[coarse lake]

you can use anis over centi if centi is higher cp

what's your cp with centi/biscuit/sanis/rh/laplace

assuming laplace is higher cp than emilia

[solid flare]

939k

[solid flare]

yes

[coarse lake]

go with that

what are your other 2 teams now and their cp

no chance they're in range to deal with your sanis team, so you should be good there

[keen vapor]

@coarse lake Blanc Emilia Rapunzel didn't work

With biscuit yes

[coarse lake]

yes

what happened, didn't have the dmg?

[solid flare]

782k 897k 939k

[coarse lake]

cindy team needs to be 2rl

well... ig it won't matter too much

their cindy team beats yours even if you get faster

[keen vapor]

Yup

[coarse lake]

do you have vid

[coarse lake]

what lvl is your quantum

[keen vapor]

loading

[coarse lake]

your scar setup is actually fine there too, high enough cp that most of their setups can't touch it

[coarse lake]

effectively double cp diffing them

eh...

you're not reaching 2rl there anyway with emilia, ig it's fine

that's prob the only team they can win against

give noah your tankiest cube

make sure noise is linked over rapunzel

other than that, should be fine

oh I would do centi/biscuit/sanis/rh/laplace for t3 order

biscuit dying is perfectly fine, she won't die anyway since cp diff

sanis p2 gives them bigger opening

can also swap out rapunzel for someone who's even higher cp, as long as gen doesn't decrease and that new unit isn't linked

if rapu is linked over noise, need to take rapu out

[solid flare]

team2, why not just rapu scarlet noise

[coarse lake]

noise bursting is better

if rapu is linked, take her out

for your highest cp rl that is still lower atk than noise

[solid flare]

well if rapu is linked and is tanking, in p1 they wont they get stunned?

[coarse lake]

then remove noise completely and use someone else

her taunt will make things messy

one of them will have to go

what are your rl options that are higher cp than them both

[solid flare]

this is my box

[coarse lake]

how much hp do scar and bscar have

[solid flare]

SBS -10/10/10 lvl 9 chargespeed cube
drunk scarlet -10/10/10 lvl 14 reload cube

[coarse lake]

bricked

[solid flare]

this team is a problem,

[coarse lake]

is noir higher atk than rapunzel, and what's her hp

it's a problem bc bscar gets the indom

actually what's your cp with scarlet/rapunzel/blanc/tia/jackal

[coarse lake]

tbh...

[solid flare]

team 2 links are rapu, scarlet

[coarse lake]

that works too

what's noise and noah cs each

[graceful grotto]

prolly swap blanc and rapu's position but otherwise it's decent

if rapu drop too much of her HP, she might get the indo instead so yeah

[coarse lake]

actually what's your rapu hp as well

you might have hard bricked your acc with that beefy scar

[umbral crown]

Context

[solid flare]

noise CS -4.92 // HP 4113684 (no cube)
rapu cs 17.62//HP 4224892(no cube)
noah- 18.21 //hp 4510544(no cube)

[solid flare]

we're trying to get rapu to feed the jackle as a link

[keen vapor]

@coarse lake there

[graceful grotto]

yeap i get chu

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-hours-later-gif-10924636

[graceful grotto]

just saying the possibility, you would be slightly faster, but u could also lose out the blanc indo to the wrong unit

[coarse lake]

what's noah cs

and i need to know your rapu hp

[coarse lake]

you can try swapping centi with crown, but eh, still might not be enough

make your emi beefier with vigor/tempering and use the standard double buff might be the main way

ok

t1 go with noise/noah/rumani/cindy/emilia

problem is just t2, need someone squishier than scar, or at least barely tankier

[keen vapor]

Puedes apurarte? Se me acaban los carteles

[solid flare]

here

[umbral crown]

compra mas

[coarse lake]

ok good

not bricked, run Scar/rapu/blanc/xmaiden/jackal for t2

[keen vapor]

Blood suggested something interesting for t1

[coarse lake]

for your standard scar matchup?

[keen vapor]

Ice maiden instead of Blanc in a scar jack team

[coarse lake]

with your luck you don't have the dmg to kill

[keen vapor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026322546934698004.gif?size=48&animated=true&name=whyyysnapped

[keen vapor]

I mean, you have a point, I lose one buffer

[coarse lake]

is the idea to just outspeed?

your scar isn't gonna be killing them

and it's not gonna solve your bay comp issue either

you can tweak your emi comp by adding p5 crown (maybe enough dmg? eh), or run the standard with rh buff and emi on vigor with a good dose of prayers

or try 2rl cindy

[keen vapor]

You think Maiden nuke instead of forcing a scar one would be better?

[coarse lake]

maybe, what's your maiden invest

and could be good to limit test how much maiden can actually do to linked

[keen vapor]

R15
7/10/7

I think one attack line

[coarse lake]

noise/maiden/jackal/noah/centi, something like that

if rh is free, use rh

maiden/noah/rh/centi/jackal

well you still gotta find a cook for bay

[keen vapor]

What about.... Yes, Bay

[graceful grotto]

bro wtheck hahaha

[graceful grotto]

oh wait R15, i thought it was SR15

[keen vapor]

What, there was a raid

[graceful grotto]

but still 7 10 7 jesus

[coarse lake]

change t1 to noise/noah/rumani/cindy/emilia, otherwise looks fine, should work against that specific dude

[solid flare]

hold on, im building defence teams here, by copying the higher rank dude
and the theory is to CP pad versus the lower than 50 levels dude
all based on the assumption that they dont have a 2RL team?

[coarse lake]

yes that's your def

your t3 they won't touch

your t2 they probably dunno how to win, and if they do, prob use up noah biscuit

unless they figure out the cindy strat against your cindy, you should be fine

what they gonna do with a 2rl team

[graceful grotto]

T3 won't touch cause of CP?

[coarse lake]

maybe kill t1?

if they could win against indom scar with 2rl team they would have beat #2 already

t3 puts their standard scar (with cored noir) into 19% deficit

[keen vapor]

I've tried t3 before and succeeded

But it uses Noah as well

So problem is getting up with something for the other teams

[coarse lake]

t3 you still need biscuit p2

two different conversations are going on at same time

[coarse lake]

wait...

I thought I told you to do the revive against their cindy, not bay

[keen vapor]

Yes, SBS at 2% HP can actually kill them

[coarse lake]

? indom bscar won that fight?

then go do that against cindy

what you dealing with bay comp for

[graceful grotto]

man bay really want me to use her, she's not in my wishlist and i got her mlb

[quick lake]

Bay is so good though

[graceful grotto]

[coarse lake]

echo is at pretty huge bulk disadvantage is why this is even happening

his units are paper thin, opponent units eat spinich 3 meals a day

[silver siren]

Ignore their scar team
T2 use scar/blanc/red/cent/jack
T3 use noise/noah/cindy/enilia/rumani

My bracket also got this exact defence, i always won

[keen vapor]

It uses Noah

[coarse lake]

ok

then use the blanc emi rapu team there then

just swap it to fight cindy

[solid flare]

SO the theory is to CP pad versus the guy 50 levels lower.
High rank guy,
me copying high rank guy
lower rank guy's def teams for reference

[coarse lake]

why aren't you hitting that high rank guy btw

start doing that if the low rank guy gets stumped for several days in a row

[solid flare]

i can, i just dont want to trade 4 hits to 2

[coarse lake]

someone isn't listening to instructions very well

[umbral crown]

[covert lintel]

[covert lintel]

1 rosanna will solve it all

[quick lake]

I am surprised ur single buffed Emilia cant OHKO them

[gaunt sentinel]

wait wut?

what you mean

[coarse lake]

blud used it against the noise bay team instead of the cindy team

ofc it would live

noise already makes emi essentially 0 buff

then add in bay biscuit

[quick lake]

RH + Blanc + Emilia should still work though

[coarse lake]

p2 emilia dies against either

[verbal sun]

is it possible for me to beat this team

[swift mango]

The idea isn't just to out speed. The ideal is free jackal to use for t2-3.

Echo, could easily win T2-3 with Emi-Blanc-RH-Crown-Jackal.

Stop digging the death end and look for better routine.

[coarse lake]

he should win t3 with just blanc emi rapu anyway

if you wanna free jackal on the indom scar, that's very doable, just do noise noah biscuit at 2.5rl, even 3rl prob is barely fine

what's the comp your suggesting

[swift mango]

3RL on t1 is asked to be 1 shot. He already showed before in his video.

It's close to or 2.5rl

[coarse lake]

oh right the bscar vid

what's your team suggestion there

[swift mango]

Well, he said he doesn't have Laplace+, Rumani Built so I would need to check burst calculator again

[coarse lake]

who's the dps and desired speed

[swift mango]

XMaiden 2RL

[coarse lake]

have you seen an xmaiden fail to kill linked

[swift mango]

I think Unbuffed one would fail but I haven't seen that.

[coarse lake]

echo can test it, and if possible, he'll be the first known case

either way the lose con is xmaiden unable to kill scar link or blanc emi unable to kill cindy

[fathom rock]

If linked jackal which gets indom

I'll swap bs cube for this match but I'm just curious now

[verbal sun]

ig easier question to answer atm is how would I beat this team, i'm using my scarlet to kill their anis team

[swift mango]

@keen vapor

Uhm do you have Maxwell built?

[fathom rock]

2rl scarlet decimates this

[verbal sun]

lemmie show other 2 teams

so do I move my sanis team to t3 and scarlet to t1?

i have 100% clear on t3 with scarlet but t1 i just lost and that never happened before

[coarse lake]

just slow down your sanis

[verbal sun]

what does that do?

[fathom rock]

Just make your sanis comp 4rl

[coarse lake]

lets your noahh probably block their emi nuke

[fathom rock]

Let noah block emilia burst

[verbal sun]

it is rn tho

[coarse lake]

it's not

[swift mango]

Do you know if XMaiden s3 counts 100% or 10% of her ATK?

[coarse lake]

it should be 10% of her hp added as pseudo atk, then the multiplier based off of that

[fathom rock]

Is 3rl not 4rl

[verbal sun]

this work for slowing down?

[fathom rock]

No
Anis is just as fast as centi

[coarse lake]

problem is that since it's ST, final dmg is divided by 3, so it might be possible for it to not kill

[verbal sun]

drake?

[swift mango]

Deals damage equal to 1372.8% of the sum of 10% of the caster's final Max HP and the caster's ATK

[fathom rock]

Still 3rl
You wnat a unit with little to no regen

[verbal sun]

oh ok

[coarse lake]

his maiden burst is lvl 7, but yeah

divide that by 3 bc of link

with how beefy the opponent is, it might not kill

[fathom rock]

A sniper or smg or ar would do it
Just don't use xmica

[swift mango]

So I was wondering If RH will be a better buff for XMaiden then Noise.

If it only counts 10% of ATK then it's worse...

[verbal sun]

lemmie look back again then-

[coarse lake]

dude's unbuffed bscar does almost no dmg against a scar team using... only blanc as sustain

[fathom rock]

this blocks enemy emilia

[verbal sun]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-overheat-pepe-peepo-monkas-monka-gif-16280185

[coarse lake]

tbh don't give him buffer for xmaiden

I wanna see if his unbuffed maiden can kill, limit test it

same with blanc emi rapu against cindy

[verbal sun]

wait so this mean its good or change priv

[coarse lake]

if a setup in echo's matchup can kill, it'll kill for 99% of accounts out there in same matchup

[fathom rock]

This should be good

[verbal sun]

[fathom rock]

[verbal sun]

ngl this guy is a pain

not for the team but the dedication to only target me is crazy

[fathom rock]

Ok every time I attack the Taya dude this happens

[fathom rock]

My whole bracket targets me

[swift mango]

I think I somehow did it. I became the bugged guy that my CN whale can't hit....

[verbal sun]

btw how do you feel about the level diff against this team

[fathom rock]

Bruh

[verbal sun]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-gif-27403481

[swift mango]

He has onlined 3 times today but not hitting me.

[fathom rock]

Well how am I supposed to beat that bugged guy

I'll just hit another guy ig

[swift mango]

What is your current rank and last season rank?

[fathom rock]

I keep getting 2.4k every season

[swift mango]

Maybe they think of you as easy picking somehow.

[fathom rock]

I am easy picking
They just cp gap me

I just keep fighting back and get the 2.4k barely every season

[swift mango]

The reason I was targeting was because I was c3 end of season and the other 2 guys are whales. So I was an easier picking compared to them.

Your situation could be similar somehow.

It stopped after one lower guy got stuck in my defense and had no choice but to hit the others of his temporary alliance instead.

[swift mango]

So if you could somehow completely stop one guy from hitting you and hitting other guys instead your situation would change.

[fathom rock]

Yeah, I'm investing towards that

[coarse lake]

you guys are in such interesting pvp situations

[swift mango]

I tested S3lv10 Red vs s3lv7 noise buffer, I think they are about the same dmg bonus for XMaiden.

But RH also buff other units dmg.

[coarse lake]

well noise is higher gen

so tbh noise is prob the better bet

[swift mango]

Well

Centi+Noah+Anis+XMaiden+RH/Noise, both 2rl.

[coarse lake]

noise still better

gives sustain in case centi lives

although his taunt prio is fcked, noah always taunt prio no matter position

which isn't an issue here since only taunting ars anyway, noah should live

but that means centi might live

so noise is safer even if you kill link, might lose to blanc and jackal

[wind kelp]

Anyone else encountering a weird bug(i say bug) where you get disconnected, etc, from matching against someone? It only happens when i match with 1 particular person O.o It's either "error XYZ"->"disconnect and back to lobby", or sometimes stuck in battle after "can't match".

[swift mango]

He could replace Noah with a clip SG if he used Noise and still 2rl. But Idk if it would help.

[coarse lake]

nah the clip sg prob insta deleted

if noise buff + maiden autos isn't enough for his maiden to nuke, then it's not reliable

on the other hand 1 buff emi could very well lose to the cindy matchup if he does it

with his luck, emi dies so fast he loses gen, cindy wipes team before he can b2

well either way it's good data

inb4 he uses the maiden team against bay

[swift mango]

Hmm it's still 3 buff Emi though

Emi+Blanc+Maxwell+Crown+Jackal

If Maxwell unbuilt then still 2 buffs Emi... Could even use Privaty.

[coarse lake]

prob best we list out team suggestions to be clear

Against Indom Scar: God comp cindy
Against Bay: Skip
Against Cindy: Blanc/Emilia/Rapunzel/Biscuit/Centi

[swift mango]

Emi is very easy to buff

[coarse lake]

@keen vapor do either of our suggestions

go list yours out

[swift mango]

Against Scarlet: Centi+Noah(could use clipSG instead in Noise case if they won't be killed by Scarlet counter)+Anis+XMaiden+RH/Noise

Against either of the other team: Emi+Blanc+RH(or Maxwell/Privaty/any built off burst buffer/or maybe just CP pad/Rapu?)+Crown+Jackal. Need to keep Emi lower HP ofc. Maybe better hitting Cindy? Could move your Blanc to p3 to avoid Laplace if Crown or another B3/1 that's not RH is linked, idk.

[coarse lake]

emi won't work against the bay team

well... eh worth a test, don't think he's testing even double buff yet

[swift mango]

Well, 3 Buffed Emi could

[coarse lake]

double buff wouldn't be enough looking at it

[swift mango]

Hmm Cindy is also a hard one, she might survive the nuke with Biscuit buff on. And kill Emi.

[coarse lake]

cindy doesn't have biscuit, should be fine

as long as emilia bursts in time, should be a clean nuke with 2 or more buff

[swift mango]

Oh Nvm... My bad.

[swift mango]

Can my DKW be counted as a cope low feed buffer?

[coarse lake]

Buff too low probably

Yeah that's barely any buff

[swift mango]

I think my SR15 doll DKW is stronger a buffer than @keen vapor unbuilt XMica at least.

[coarse lake]

low bar

[swift mango]

If only Nikke had a core... I know they have one lore wise.

Naga would be very strong in Arena as well

---

This is the first time in my 9 months with this CN whale that he doesn't hit me at all after online for 3 times straight.

Really, the age of CP gap being best Defense is over.

Now it's Bugged defense being the best defense.

[quick lake]

My familiar whale has been stomped by another whale Dropped from rank 1 to rank 9

[swift mango]

Maybe he is getting the partially resolved attack error too.

[quick lake]

Maybe. I frequently get the disconnected bug when I attack him hopefully he gives up and stays at 4-10 rank

No one has attacked me in the last 48 hours

May the peace continue

[swift mango]

Maybe your defense is bugged as well.

[swift mango]

At this rate, if no one attacking me I could have a try at the +70 lv gap whale for the first time...

[quick lake]

Wait till just before reset

[vapid topaz]

1

[zinc scroll]

who should i use for rookie arena atk and def and then for sp arena

[lunar dirge]

pick any of these for sp defence:

scarlet blanc rh centi jackal
rumani anis cinderella emilia21 noir/xmaiden
noah noise s.anis biscuit rapunzel
Scarlet/Blanc/Laplace+/Red Hood/Jackal
Noise Rumani SBS Bay Biscuit
blanc/emilia/rh/xmaiden/b.soda

for rookie,either do blanc emi rh biscuit jackal or scar blanc rh centi jackal

attack is dependable on opponents teams

[zinc scroll]

alright thanks

[limpid sorrel]

Is anyone still using Makima?

[swift mango]

Gimme your Makima if u don't use her.

Rumani+Blanc/Flex+Biscuit+Cindy+Makima would be a nice team.

[limpid sorrel]

Ill try after i get cindy

[muted stag]

this is a win right

[swift mango]

Replace xAnne with Centi

[covert lintel]

switch it, you'll win

[muted stag]

not fast enough?

i can use emillia also

[swift mango]

Be careful of unlinking Scarlet

[swift mango]

Likely lose hard.

ASS feed ScarJack to 2.5 RL.

[muted stag]

if use centi is 2RL?

[swift mango]

Yes

[muted stag]

alr thx

[swift mango]

So long as Jackal has lv7 quantum

[covert lintel]

i never fight scar with scar cause gacha, especially he have blanc

[swift mango]

Yet, you fight Scar with ASS and lose.

[muted stag]

alr won thx

[muted stag]

if u fight 2.5 rl scar just use 2rl scar

if u fight 2 rl scar just use 2rl noah team

[quick lake]

Single buffed 2RL scar dont always OHKO fyi

[muted stag]

yeah thats why wanted to use xanne

but then 2.5 rl

[quick lake]

Yeah, u cant reach 2RL with double buffers (unless invested Mari)

[swift mango]

You may win with xAnne. But if they had some CS you would lose.

[muted stag]

then what u suggest

noah biscuit emilia anis rapu?

[quick lake]

Skip

[swift mango]

2RL ScarBlanc is hard to beat if your team aren't tanky enough or lower level/cp pressed

Otherwise, just Noah then tank or face tank it with a tanky team...

[quick lake]

scar blanc ew

[swift mango]

Just Rossanna it...

Cheap, no?

[swift mango]

Well, 2rl ScarBlanc would wipe 2RL ScarAnne anyway.

[quick lake]

yeah

[swift mango]

To be frank I think we mistook each others. I meant the enemy Scar team you just faced. It's 3rl but could be 2.5 RL with some CS. So that's why I suggested Centi...

About 2 x 2 RL scarlet team vs each other. Or 2rl vs 2.5rl. I didn't really put a comment on that.

[tropic summit]

[echo loom]

Trying to figure out some sort of rookie/sp arena teams but can't seem to get it right, some presumably good chars are a bit new and cp starved so I'm a bit lost.

[strong hull]

@swift mango Blood-kun help me

3 defs

[quick lake]

@tropic summit #pvp-arena message
I edited the sheet so u can see how 17% cs affects ur team speed

[cedar orbit]

Don't think CS is that good due to the time spent in cover

for example, Emilia requires that 21.4% CS to make the 2.5RL, so it would be safe to assume the minimum amount of CS for 2.5RL third shot is 21.4%

[tropic summit]

oh that's interesting, gonna mess around with this

[quick lake]

Yeah agreed
#pvp-arena message
Can see the math here, but some
JP dude estimated the motion is roughly 0.216s-0.25s. So u might actually need more cs to hit 2.5RL speed

15% charge speed still allows ur B3 to trigger before opponent’s B2 (similar to 2.5RL vs 3RL)

So technically 15% is enough assuming ur opponent doesnt have cs

At least that’s what I gathered

[tropic summit]

1. how invested is your rosanna
2. last line with s.anis and scarlet on same investiment as crow I'm to assume they're rock bottom right?

[strong hull]

Can you build me 3 defs Rail-chan? Blood-kun isnt here lol

[echo loom]

Rosanna is not very invested at all no, and sanis and scarlet are bottom, just got scarlet this week.

[quick lake]

I might be wrong with my charge speed math but i’m too many cs lines into my pvp investment

[tropic summit]

then i guess 2B gonna have to do

[quick lake]

So far my pvp matches play out according to the burst calc

[tropic summit]

hopefully i can add up to the truth of the calculations with my 17% CS centi, the only one atm i've that reaches that far

noise is getting close to it too, atm 11%

[quick lake]

I have tons of 2.5RL vids if y’all wanna see

[tropic summit]

someone has been at work i see

[quick lake]

Invest first, ask questions later

[cedar orbit]

Funny thing about 2.5 RL that you would also have to factor in rocket travel time, since shotguns are instant

[quick lake]

Yeah that too

[quasi prism]

I got out of chapter 32 last night

Been stuck there since end of october.

[strong hull]

@tropic summit can you build me 3 defs?

[quasi prism]

33 was a breeze, I imagine 34 won't be to terrible.

[tropic summit]

T1: centi naga cind viper noise
T2: rrh blanc rh rumani jackal (ensure rrh is the lowest max HP among RH and jackal, if not give vigor cube to whoever is lower HP, requirement for indom)
T3: crown biscuit rapu sbs laplace

cubes:

vigor on noise, blanc, rapu, biscuit
temperance on crown
quantum on centi, jackal, rumani
any other nikke run highest available cube

wishlist: get noah asap, can improve T3 drastically for stalling and RL tier

notes: attached i posted your nikke per strength, consider raising CP for those down low
notes2: consider investing in s.anis, as she's good for both pve and pvp stall teams

[tropic summit]

yeah i can i guess, taking a look

[strong hull]

that not my box actually

[quick lake]

@tropic summit @swift mango @cedar orbit
From left to right:
Centi 20.85% CS
Noah 17.04%
Jackal ~15% iirc
xAnne 9.84%
Biscuit 0%

At least cs looks like it's doing something

[strong hull]

im helping a dude lol

[echo loom]

Cheers, yeah, Noah is the first I put on the new wishlist.

[strong hull]

my FAV

[wanton thicket]

what team could i make with these that's at least semi competent in the arena?

[tropic summit]

scarlet poli rh noir jackal
noah naga cind anis dkw
xmaiden crown biscuit rrh bsoda

cubes

quantum on jackal, anis
vigor on biscuit
temperance on noah
anyone else give them highest available cube

tell them to wishlist more batteries, need centi and rumani so they can have a 3rd 3RL team

@swift mango it's done but feel free to tweak it if you see anything better

Edited: we can use crown in T3, remains 4RL

[tropic summit]

emilia and synchro lvl 140? i've bad news for you sir

🧱

[tropic summit]

either way, you can go with these, but keep in mind your account is screwed due to probably taking a long break/not playing

T1: poli scarlet rh pepper sugar
T2: emilia blanc liter anis bsoda
T3: auto based on CP

(put those that are lvl 1 in synchro)

[wanton thicket]

ty, i'll try to make it work

[tropic summit]

As a personal suggestion, since you're only lvl 140ish, if you really want to pvp and compete on rankings, you're best off rerolling and starting from scratch.

If you keep playing on this account, you're at disadvantage essentially forever, do what you will regardless

[wanton thicket]

i'll keep that in mind and consider my options, but i do wanna try saving this if it's at all possible

[umbral crown]

He still has chance, just he will not aim for top spots but he has emi

[quasi prism]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-shopping-parents-card-digimon-digimon-taimers-gif-10782939244989512488

[umbral crown]

Its not worse than the bois lv300 with makima

[wanton thicket]

an option...

[tropic summit]

so does everyone else in their bracket tho

post your box and current teams we can check if there's something upgradable

able to steadily keep ch1-ch3 is a pretty damn good sign

[quick lake]

My whale after sick of being beaten, went to whale for 10 more levels of core dust

[tropic summit]

if you can't win, just open the wallet

he's taken a shortcut

[quick lake]

I still won him

But he's gonna cp-diff me soon

[cinder siren]

can anyone help me build a pvp team?

[tropic summit]

no noah, no jackal and even no scarlet? This guy has it worse than you @swift mango

taking a look either way let's see

hmmm you're not missing on key campaign units at least

so you could afford a pvp unit from selector

your T1 is particularly strange.. although no less strange than your T3 🤔

it's a peculiar sacc with an indom and a RH B3

oh ok so it was a kind of random team

now that makes more sense

minus T1 that involves a sacc, the rest aren't too great speed wise, albeit T2 is making use of biscuit to stall

we can prolly work something a bit better 🤔

[glad meteor]

Seems like we started at a similar time. Is there a person named “lachesis” in your sp bracket

My bracket may be later. I started an alt on na

[bleak shale]

imagine if hes the person ur fighting

[glad meteor]

The week before anni

[bleak shale]

and ur helping him beat u

[glad meteor]

They say sea is easier pvp I think

But harder solo raid 3%

[tropic summit]

hmm getting a jackal could lead you to have 3 3RL teams, so it's definitely a good idea to consider it

[glad meteor]

global and na is where solo raid is easier for sure

[tropic summit]

i'd go with the above, you missing just 1 battery to promote a 3rd team to 3RL

[glad meteor]

T1 need a b1. Pepper being used

[tropic summit]

since T1 would miss a B1, it would fit perfectly

[tropic summit]

yeah exactly

[bleak shale]

is sea 3% soloraid harder than 3% na?

[glad meteor]

Yeah

By a lot

[bleak shale]

usually sea top scores r kinda low iirc

[glad meteor]

Top 50 is lower

[bleak shale]

do u guys just have alot less people

so its painful

[glad meteor]

Yeah that. Though I’m not sea

[tropic summit]

assuming you'd get jackal, it would be this

[bleak shale]

SEA is like half as much as global and slightly above half of na

[quick lake]

sea players just more sweaty

[bleak shale]

its like 117global:82na:47sea

[quick lake]

less casuals in a way

[bleak shale]

so technically sea has like half the ammount of people in top 3%

[quick lake]

Maybe less afk ppl in sea

[tropic summit]

some ppl on SEA server struggle to even hit dia1 due to competition i heard

[bleak shale]

its a flat number diff i think

[glad meteor]

NA too many casual spenders

[tropic summit]

go by investiment difference, PVE and PVP units should be priority, as you need to keep pushing for progress, after that batteries can be less invested than your main B3 dmg dealers, although you'd want still to OL lvl 0 all of them

SR5 doll is sufficient for batteries, campaign main units you want SR15

[glad meteor]

Only know build 5 teams

[bleak shale]

because theres only ~1410 spots in SEA and ~3510 spots in global for example, if u have the same ammount of sweaty players by percentage you have more but the top % is usually a very small flat value

[glad meteor]

They say real time game mode

[tropic summit]

taking a look now

[cinder siren]

what

[bleak shale]

for 3% atleast

[bleak shale]

watch me get cp gapped while synced

[tropic summit]

btw scarlet out of synch is intentional? or just found her? 🤔

you're welcome, good hunting

[cinder siren]

i invested in her a little bit

[bleak shale]

nomatter what window they place us in we get screwed in one timezone or another

its going to be 3am for someone

[quick lake]

I stil dont get why there's live servers

Please give us some teaser for CA

[cinder siren]

7 4 7 on skill

is that enough?

[tropic summit]

oh i meant original scarlet, not SBS

she's currently lvl 1 out of synch

[quick lake]

drunk scarlet

[tropic summit]

[cinder siren]

haven't invested in that nikke

[bleak shale]

pvp only unit soon

[quick lake]

Isn't she already?

[bleak shale]

yes

tbf she bairly made it into last electric weak solo raid on a team that did half as much as the others including off element

[quick lake]

Not really. Could be a 5v5 ELO system, live banning units, 5v5 blind matches etc

[bleak shale]

i have a serious theroy on champ arena

its going to be buggy

[quick lake]

Seriously bugged definitely

[bleak shale]

i give them a 5% chance its not buggy

our arena is still buggy and its been out for 2 years

[quick lake]

Arena bugs cant be fixed. Too ingrained

[tropic summit]

yeah you can use rosanna for manly 3 purposes

-sacc, giving you faster burst gen as long as one of your own nikke dies
-breaking jackal links on jackal lineups
-burst 2 attackers or p1 and an attacker

[bleak shale]

thats what they said about mchan

before mchan got sent to the shadow realm

[quick lake]

mchan?

sac is sacrifice. When a unit dies, Rosanna's skill give 36% free burst gen

So sometimes we intentionally let a weak unit die, so as to allow us to get that 36% and burst faster

[cinder siren]

wow so much things to learn

now do they call nikke a game that focus on boobs anymore?

[glad meteor]

This was my ros sac cook for scar blanc rh

[tropic summit]

noah biscuit rapu s.anis tia
poli cind bsoda anis noise
sbs naga xmaiden noir rh

wishlist: centi, rumani

notes: once you've found one of the two above, can promote T3 to 3RL

rookie team: noah biscuit cind anis RH

[cinder siren]

thanks now i can bully others in arena

[glad meteor]

Rosanna also needs investment which is expensive for pvp unit

[tropic summit]

depends on the enemy lineups, jackal is often seen in two scenarios

-scarlet jackal team, the most common
-indom emi/RH/SBS/s.anis teams
-stall noah noise teams, less common

[cinder siren]

bro might be strategist 💀

[tropic summit]

there's ppl who have drastically more experience than me

[cinder siren]

me who have no exp

[tropic summit]

the teams i gave you are for defense, attack you need to make them based on what you facing

[quick lake]

pvp is abit more complicated. More about building teams and understanding interactions, while pve is more pew pew pew

[tropic summit]

a 3RL scarlet jackal could be weak to a 3RL noah anti nuke for example

[cinder siren]

wait

rapi is rapi:rh?

[tropic summit]

rrh = rapi red hood

[glad meteor]

Both

[cinder siren]

noah biscuit rapu s.anis tia

ah

rapunzel?

[tropic summit]

it's in the screenshot anyway

without noah, i guess you could go for 2.5RL rosanna

[cinder siren]

i though it was spelling error

lol

[tropic summit]

an example of 2.5RL rosanna (do note that she needs to be invested)

hmmmmmmmm... something that can get close to it i guess would be this, the focus on killing p1 (without biscuit) and/or the attackers

maybe? 🤨

alternatively simply skip the enemy jackal team and focus on the other two

another option is to just go indom

an indom option on 2.5RL

[cinder siren]

ah

[tropic summit]

assuming sbs is the lowest HP in the jackal link obviously

[cinder siren]

about rookie arena

i just need to copy the first team?

[tropic summit]

read again my post, it's the last line

[umbral crown]

[cinder siren]

sry it's my first time seeing such a thing

[tropic summit]

no worries

[cinder siren]

i hope they teach me this at school instead of maths

[tropic summit]

you'll be very good at calculating the area of a triangle instead

[tropic summit]

keep in mind these are defense teams, on offense you want to tweak them based on your needs and what you facing

you can go with this if you wanna include noise, she boosts cindy nuke dmg

give this a read if you wanna review the basics and jargon

https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

oh just noticed T1 you can rotate SBS in p1 since we moved biscuit to T3

sbs blanc xmaiden tia jackal

(since sbs will be linked with jackal, it's fine for her to be in p1)

well experience does a lot, the more you fight different teams the better you'll understand it firsthand

losing can still be valuable

another suggestion is to regularly record your attempts, allows to review them and see what you might've missed

possibly also to share them and get someone else to help you understand in case

[swift mango]

You might want to push Rossana all the way to p5 lol... Otherwise the team would hardly burst after 1 sacc and she ded.

[tropic summit]

yeah found out a few lines later that the team was just auto'ed

[swift mango]

Idk about that. As it's bracket to bracket dependant. Solo raid is whole server so all in same server the same.

[glad meteor]

Yeah, depends on how sweaty people want to be or spenders

Feels like everyone got noah on alt except me

[swift mango]

Feel like everyone has Noah except me.

[gaunt viper]

Hello, may I have an SP squad composition suggestion whenever someone has a chance? thank you

[swift mango]

I think he couldn't hit me because of bug so he hit the R1 whale instead.

Idk if I should do it and hit him again.

Missed my chance of hitting the +70 lv gapped whale.

It has been chilling today...

[tropic summit]

there's still 20 minutes

wild rat at 1 minute away from reset might be preparing their scope on you

[tropic summit]

oh wow you got everything 🤔

[bleak latch]

battle between dolphins

he has same lv synchro as me but i guess he not investing much in pvp unit

[swift mango]

They can't when they are offline. And the one rat in my bracket isn't in the position to hit me.

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc rh rumani jackal
noah biscuit rapu s.anis emilia
centi naga cind noir noise

cubes:

vigor on blanc, rapu, biscuit, noise
resil on s.anis, s.anis must've burst skill lvl 9
temperance on noah
quantum on jackal, rumani, centi
everyone else run highest available cube

[swift mango]

I'm another rat I guess but ofc I can't hit myself.

Maybe I will let the CN whale keep his C1... And watch the 2 whale fight each other tomorrow...

[tropic summit]

here, you'll need these 🍿

[swift mango]

[gaunt viper]

Thank you chef for cooking up this fine meal. it's greatly appreciated. I have Rumani and S.anis not OL yet but I'll make them OL now and S.anis is burst lvl 9 so all good. I got Vigor lvl 5 rn cause I was focusing on getting res to lvl 10 (halfway to 10 just need 40 more batteries). but I could use it to make Vigor lvl 6 instead for another slot.

[swift mango]

First time in months that I don't use any SpA hit for the whole day.

[mystic wind]

brother can u help me cook sp arena team

please help me build defense team

[tropic summit]

yeah sounds good, with your selection of nikke there are also other variations we could run, just test these out for 2-3 days and see if anyone gets past, we can run in particular variation of speed on cindy nuke and an emi indom

[tropic summit]

taking a look now

[mystic wind]

I'm currently running this but i put Rosanna in scar team

[tropic summit]

how invested is your rosanna?

[mystic wind]

scar/xanne/rosa/anis/jack

[tropic summit]

was thinking about a 2.5RL rosanna in fact

[mystic wind]

almost 40% attack and lvl 10 burst

[tropic summit]

oh that's noice should work

[gaunt viper]

alright that sounds good then, tho my bracket ever since the shuffle has been real active so here's hoping I gotta struggle less 😅.

[tropic summit]

do you have 21% CS emilia btw?

[mystic wind]

trying to get there but it seems so hard

i have 4 cs line

[tropic summit]

oh it's fine, would've added an option but no biggie

[mystic wind]

but only 3-4% each line

[tropic summit]

conflicted if to go indom emi or just 3RL cindy

let's go with this for now, if they beat you there's another option

scarlet centi rosanna anis jackal
noise blanc cindy emi rumani
noah biscuit rapu s.anis laplace+

cubes:

quantum on centi, anis, jackal, rumani
vigor on blanc, biscuit, rapu
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis, s.anis must also have lvl 9 burst skill
anyone else run highest cube

forgot to update picture, can replace naga with blanc as above

~~optional different team

emi blanc rh flex/biscuit jackal~~

[mystic wind]

thanks brother, and also is the adjutant cube useless here?

[tropic summit]

hmm you could give it to laplace+ for extra splashes during/post noah burst

but it won't matter that much, can be resil/bastion

[mystic wind]

noted

[keen vapor]

Yeah, i think i should focus on my defense now :deadge:

12 hours is 12 hours tho

[tropic summit]

that bracket sees a lot of action everyday

[keen vapor]

Those levels are getting scary

If only i could beat Nihilister twice

[tropic summit]

[mystic wind]

damn my top 6 bracket filled with lvl 470++ whale

[keen vapor]

Should i? Copy that CN defense?

[mystic wind]

is this the CN defense?

is it that good?

[tropic summit]

both T1 and T2 are weak to noah and stall s.anis in particular for T1
T3 would be emi ICBM'able

[keen vapor]

It's not that one

Is another I'm facing off

[mystic wind]

which one

[tropic summit]

the one of yesterday right?

[keen vapor]

Yeh

[tropic summit]

#pvp-arena message

[keen vapor]

I never thought Noise Bay biscuit combo could be this scary :deadge:

[mystic wind]

damn if i build my bay is it better than ur recommended team before?

[keen vapor]

@tropic summit you know something frustrating? Malogro is actually beating Tsubasa

[tropic summit]

yeah that's probably one of the best sustain lineups

[tropic summit]

if only your SBS was killing their T1 we could skip that bay team

[keen vapor]

Sincere beats Malogro regularly as well

[keen vapor]

Always get your SBS to 3 attack lines min

[worthy knoll]

Somehow I feel its just coz your Emilia was weak , prolly should have just RH buff instead

[keen vapor]

Look at this, is just 16% attack

Emilia actually has 21% attack

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor

[keen vapor]

I tried but she died and i blame blood for it

[worthy knoll]

I wish I have someone who does the same team, I want to experiment my XMaiden

I feel like a Jackal Blanc buffed XMaiden (also target of indom) will hit them like as bowling pins

Jackal hands down best B1 buffer for XMaiden burst(yes just the burst tho, also assuming its max lvl else max lvl Noise burst still beats Jackal lvl 5 burst)

[proper pivot]

Hello, if it is possible could someone give a suggestion for SP arena team comp whenever you have a chance, Thanks!

[tropic summit]

anis higher investiment than jackal and centi, what a chad

bit more concerning SBS down on bottom with biscuit

[proper pivot]

so i should focus more on building them?

[keen vapor]

I wouldn't be so sure about that

What's the level for top 30?

[proper pivot]

in my sp bracket?, its like 270

[keen vapor]

Quite below

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc rh laplace+ jackal
noah biscuit rapu s.anis noir
noise centi cind anis asuka

cubes

quantum on jackal, centi, anis
vigor on blanc, rapu, biscuit
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis, s.anis must be lvl 9 burst skill for ammo requirements
anyone else run highest lvl available cube

notes:

wishlist rumani

[proper pivot]

trust the plan

[proper pivot]

Okok, thank you very much

[keen vapor]

Hoarding?

[tropic summit]

might be playing 4D chess

[proper pivot]

a bit yeah, but rn im 20th so im comfortably getting some gems

[tropic summit]

get ch10 at least

(you've got a good selection)

[proper pivot]

okok, thank you very much!

[lunar dirge]

rookie numbers

[tropic summit]

your leviathan doesn't count

[lunar dirge]

top 2 whale then

[keen vapor]

Two leviathans doesn't counts

[coarse lake]

why you complaining about other ppl's lvls

btw did you hit that dude in pvp yet

[lunar dirge]

skill issue from you does count

[keen vapor]

Is only getting scary, is workable at the moment but i fear for my future

[tropic summit]

Echo got no chill, bullied by everyone

[keen vapor]

[lunar dirge]

i feel like he's beatable

[tropic summit]

[lunar dirge]

just

need a bit more invest compared to what i have rn

[tropic summit]

define "a bit"

[lunar dirge]

dunno

maybe 200 rocks in pvp alone

[tropic summit]

you almost make it sound possible

[lunar dirge]

that team 3 asks to be scarlet'd you know

[vapid lake]

abandon solo raid and embrace pvp

[lunar dirge]

i plan to do it when they announce ca release

then back into sr

of course

[coarse lake]

yeah except you can fix that issue rn

[lunar dirge]

@tropic summit how about noah biscu sbs on scar team and scarjack with revival and prayers?

[tropic summit]

depending on the strength of those prayers, i guess you could have a remote chance?

[keen vapor]

I need to beat Nihilister to get more credits to overload Rumani and Bay

[vague quartz]

Are there any decent pvp teams i can make with these characters? Not looking for anything perfect, just something I can use for now

[lunar dirge]

rookie:sbs blanc noir bsoda jackal

[vague quartz]

ty

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/dqmw-drquinnmedicinewoman-janeseymour-drquinn-drmike-gif-5077910293232619770

[tropic summit]

a wild rosy

[umbral crown]

[gaunt viper]

so far so good!!

[tropic summit]

oh worked on 2 peeps and even twice

very good, let's see if they breach in the next 24h

[gaunt viper]

I didn't even OL S.anis and Rumani yet

[tropic summit]

improving s.anis would improve a lot t2, while rumani it's a little less priority, but CP always helps

[gaunt viper]

I'll prioritize s.anis then first

[gaunt viper]

this was the first roll on OL, why can't I get this on other units?

[tropic summit]

minus the crit rate, that's damn good

[swift mango]

Crit rate is good for arena.

[tropic summit]

would you rely on crit rate tho?

[swift mango]

Dude it was on ASS so nothing to complain about.

[swift mango]

In ASS case, yes.

[tropic summit]

yeah it could've been worse, like getting ammo on s.anis

[gaunt viper]

this is true lol I just wish someone like Cindy could get rolls like that so easy

[swift mango]

What other stats could you get for ASS if not Crit rate or DEF?

[tropic summit]

not really much else left 🤨

[swift mango]

My ASS couldn't even get any ATK line..

[gaunt viper]

not to mention all the other gear got Elemental dmg all at 23.56%

[tropic summit]

dayum that's gonna hurt

[gaunt viper]

idk what's going on lol

[tropic summit]

good karma from previous life or something

[gaunt viper]

only applies to nikke

[swift mango]

At least my dispatch luck today was good.

[gaunt viper]

thoughts on how to cook against this chef?

I was able to beat them in the past with t2 and t3 but now t2 dies too quickly for scarlet and Blanc to live and kill them

[tropic summit]

you dealing with possibly this:

although let's assume they're not running emi on 21%, it would be 3 teams of 3RL

that considered, their T1 has SBS as B3, you could hard counter that with rosanna or a biscuit and p1 defender

as for scarlet, you've a rosanna?

[gaunt viper]

I do but alas she's not even the slightest bit invested

[tropic summit]

although probably even easier to deal with their T3 and a noah 🤔

post or link your box again here, i think we could get you an ICBM team and a standard noah stall with s.anis

[gaunt viper]

tho this is older so now it's 369 and s.anis is much higher along next to Centi in the box

[tropic summit]

if you run this:

emilia blanc rh noir jackal

can you check if the top 2 atk% nikke are emi and RH?
then check if RH and jackal have more HP than emi (they should)

[solid flare]

if you are ever unsure,can you just go into shooting range with the team and see where the links are?

[tropic summit]

yep that's an option

[solid flare]

no updates on my defense, the guy has not hit me yet since daily reset.

[swift mango]

Use Crown instead, so no need to check

[tropic summit]

oh it's still 3RL with crown right 🤔

[swift mango]

Ye

[tropic summit]

what do you think of their T3 though, is it a trap somewhere?

those 2 gen points left, from cindy autos?

or they running a noise with quantum 7?

[glad meteor]

Noise noah p2 taunt

[swift mango]

You could test that with ur rookie

[quick lake]

Thats alot of cubes

[tropic summit]

it could also be CS% 🤔

i'm sensing a trap somewhere there

[quick lake]

cs doesnt affect 2RL speed

[swift mango]

CS won't make a difference

[tropic summit]

yeah not on 2RL at least

[swift mango]

If CS on Cindy then yes

[quick lake]

It would probably burst at like 2.1-2.2RL, delayed due to cindy

[tropic summit]

the odds tho of that

[swift mango]

Could be 2rl. Very possible