pvp-arena

[grizzled bone]

i'm not making fun, i'm just surprised you're losing if you think you can beat them

[keen vapor]

I don't know why my Noise Noah biscuit team isn't working against SBS teams

[umbral crown]

lacking damage?

[grizzled bone]

yeah whats the b3?

[keen vapor]

Summer Anis

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

Noise taunt prio

[grizzled bone]

attacks should be tailored to your opponents defense

Echo's Noise has taunt prio

[glad meteor]

I used noah grave biscuit sbs rapunzel earlier. Was 3rl somehow, noah quantum i think

[umbral crown]

quatum on noah?

[glad meteor]

3rl

[umbral crown]

waos

[silver prism]

I dunno how to do that I usually just attack and hope I win Totally haven't been playing this game for over a year

[umbral crown]

auto and hope for the best

[silver prism]

Me fr

[grizzled bone]

so is the issue you're not doing damage or you're dying fast or both?

[silver prism]

Ion got time to learn the matchups I just jump in here every few months and ask for sp arena help cuz my teams stop working

[glad meteor]

Maybe I didn’t actually

[grizzled bone]

0.3% off

[glad meteor]

Grave battery

[umbral crown]

but team is 3 RL

[glad meteor]

SSS PvP

[quick lake]

Hmm Moran + Bay might be able to survive Noise/RH + Cindy with enough investments

[umbral crown]

138 is 3 RL

[keen vapor]

I wasn't doing damage

[umbral crown]

damage issues

[grizzled bone]

who was in their SBS team?

[silver prism]

Oh I see the issue with my first message. It was worded poorly

[umbral crown]

and was the cp and level gap that big? you are bricked with boxes

[silver prism]

Anyone help with sp arena defense team

That's what I initially needed lol

[grizzled bone]

then it's pretty much learning why the past defense teams you were given work and then deciding where to play them. Most general teams are going to focus on all the same B3 units

[keen vapor]

Right now is classic one (again, he's changing a lot)

Noise/Noah/SBS/biscuit/Rapunzel

[silver prism]

Well since it's been months, meta usually changes. Like last time I asked was before cindy was released

Also idek what B3 units are lol

[grizzled bone]

so you're being blocked by Noah+Biscuit, and it's just 2 stall teams going after each other means he has the better stall.

someone in my rookie is using the same, I just use Moran-Rapu-Biscuit-ASS-Noise

[grizzled bone]

burst 3 units. The ones last in the burst chain that are going to be your DPS

[grizzled bone]

so what teams are you using now?

[silver prism]

OH okay yeah i knew that. I was just being dumb and did not recognize B3 was burst 3

[keen vapor]

Try again

[umbral crown]

what works for cai, not necessary will work for you as investment differs but also show the team cp

[glad meteor]

I was mistaken

[umbral crown]

[grizzled bone]

yeah I have a really invested Noise i rely on for heals and taunts

Centi isn't going to help out in that team

[chilly furnace]

Time to invest in rumani

[umbral crown]

4-4-4 and some OL

[grizzled bone]

who gave you these teams?

[silver prism]

I forget, it was a while ago

[keen vapor]

I don't even know what he uses anymore

[umbral crown]

thats a team i fought some months ago with old rival, apparently is famous with cn players

[keen vapor]

Tsubasa

[umbral crown]

from supercampeones?

[glacial lion]

rapipi can bonk ppl in pvp?

[keen vapor]

No, first kanji seems to be something along the lines of "Kage" (shadow)

I just used Google translate for that

[umbral crown]

i do not remember which team i used against that one

[umbral crown]

The Eminence in Shadow

[glad meteor]

Noise taunt prio so her autos went through

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Yeah, I remembered thanks to it....

[keen vapor]

I used Emilia

Bad idea

[grizzled bone]

these aren't terrible teams. What's changed since then?

Including 2B as your B3 in one team forces Noise to be in her team

[silver prism]

I don't really remember when these teams are from, but lately I just have more and more trouble staying in diamond 5/6. The other day I got knocked down to diamond 10

[grizzled bone]

tbh, right now i'm failing to make a team that would be a significant change for you defense wise

[silver prism]

Hrm okay :/

Cindy isnt worth putting in?

[umbral crown]

start working on dolls and OL

your cp is really low so that will help

[grizzled bone]

the problem with Cindy is she's terrible with burst gen, even if you take out 2B to free Noise there are units you need to put with Cindy to make sure you're bursting

[silver prism]

I know one thing I need to work on is the harmony cubes. I'm soooo behind in those. Need to just devote a day to looking up the solutions and get them all done lol

[grizzled bone]

Scarlet can function without a defender but then she needs to be in a fast team and you dont have the units invested to make that type of team

making 2 strong teams and then a CP gap team doesnt seem to be in the cards either since you're in Diamond

you dont have a Rosanna invested to make a sac team either

[silver prism]

Which units should I start investing in? I have a lot of skill stuff saved and soooooo much equipment lol

[grizzled bone]

if you wanted to change things up a bit or have an idea of what kind of teams you could make. T3 is the weak link here but all should be 3RL

scarlet-blanc-rh-noir-jackal
noise-biscuit-ass-rapu-centi
noah-poli-cindy-pepper-emi

[grizzled bone]

depends on your goals (how much you want to be oriented between pve or pvp content) but to name a few:
laplace (treasured), moran, rosanna, bay, xmaiden, anis, rumani

some of these units are not pve units though so you'll have to decide what you want to invest

https://tinyurl.com/nikke-pvp-tierlist you can look at this link for Keripo's PvP tier list or check the pins for more info

[bleak shale]

Investing in bay

Mines so weak I get cp deficited

[grizzled bone]

yeah Bay wouldnt be my first choice but he has basically only Blanc and Noah as defenders

[rigid abyss]

Solo raid or Pvp, your choice

[grizzled bone]

it's either invest in batteries to make sure he can hit speeds or focus invest into a defender

[glad meteor]

Wasted all my rocks on bay and moran ols today

Rapi who

Got a black crit line on bay i guess

[quick lake]

Wasted on Noise rerolls, got nothing

[glad meteor]

Need to take defence off bay though

[rigid abyss]

moran 40% def, still weak af

[glad meteor]

My noise powah so bad

[quick lake]

Need the dolls

[rigid abyss]

0SR dolls yes. 15S dolls never!

[glad meteor]

Dolls

[quick lake]

Ur Morans should be SR5 at least

[rigid abyss]

That hurt mah wallet

[keen vapor]

Idk what to invest now

[prisma marlin]

[grizzled bone]

become PvE player

[prisma marlin]

Halp …

I was consistently winning until yesterday

[rigid abyss]

start to regret investing pvp

[keen vapor]

I tried

But my results are the worst in all my time playing

[quick lake]

When u see that 4 times successful defence, u will feel validated

[glad meteor]

I just get gemmed on. No fun. Just testing

[keen vapor]

Can't beat Nihilister (20 hard) at 341 synch
Last raid I got 5.4%
I don't even have Evangelion team overloaded

[grizzled bone]

if you auto made a team whats the highest CP the game gives you?

[rigid abyss]

Been there, not anymore

[quick lake]

Champion Arena top 200 surely

[glad meteor]

Rheax in sea and globa?

[quick lake]

Me global

[glad meteor]

[quick lake]

but live in sea

[grizzled bone]

just OL hat and gloves and armor with boots last. Focus invest in your B3s and units that can be in both PvE and PvP

[glad meteor]

Any server but na

NA will be hell for ca

[rigid abyss]

Any but jp

3% solo raid like something else

[quick lake]

Really? CA might be… across servers?

[glad meteor]

JP, NA

[grizzled bone]

whale vs whale

[glad meteor]

Doubt it

[quick lake]

Hmm

Isnt the CN/JP ppl from different servers? or they just the wrong server at the start

[keen vapor]

I did I simply can't do good

[prisma marlin]

I slept walk through last season, now getting butt kicked

[rigid abyss]

Now, I want to see Chinese magicians cook

[glad meteor]

Think CN players go jp/global

[grizzled bone]

what CP do you get with

scarlet-blanc-liter-noir-jackal?

[glad meteor]

JP has their own JP server

[grizzled bone]

phone?

[rigid abyss]

need another team

[prisma marlin]

289

[quick lake]

Happens

[keen vapor]

Phone...

[keen vapor]

I'm worse than retro

[grizzled bone]

hmm they're CP gapping you a lot

you basically want to make a team that's at least 354,631 in CP

what about SBS-Blanc-Noir-Liter-Scarlet?

[prisma marlin]

328

[grizzled bone]

should be faster and they cant block it. Within margins, could work

they should be like 5RL and that team should be 4RL so I think you'll win

[grizzled bone]

hardware issues

[prisma marlin]

[prisma marlin]

Thank You!

Cherix literally spent two days kicking me in the rear

[grizzled bone]

what's their defense team?

[prisma marlin]

He won’t come up.. pressed refresh like 30 times…

[coarse lake]

point diff too far probably

is it that pic up top?

[grizzled bone]

guess you'll have to climb up in points

[coarse lake]

nah it's not point diff

[worthy knoll]

It should be fine now, within 200

[coarse lake]

just shuffle being dumb, go do some other stuff, exit out of pvp, stuff like that

[prisma marlin]

Got it to show

[coarse lake]

sometimes shuffle just doesn't show someone even when in point range

[grizzled bone]

4RL team

[coarse lake]

whatever algorithm they use is flawed af

[prisma marlin]

So he just bursts in .01 seconds

[coarse lake]

that's a lot of feed

well it's unbuffed and fast scar, so maybe you facetank

[prisma marlin]

Hmm maybe i should try tomorrow without quick battle

[coarse lake]

use a better comp

[grizzled bone]

yeah use a better comp

for that team you need a minimum of 271,480 CP to make sure you're not in deficit penalty

you have more room to play around

[worthy knoll]

Somehow I feel you can just hit auto and get away with it

[grizzled bone]

might work

oh auto not quick battle

[grizzled bone]

this team would make him in CP deficit

so yeah you could just auto him

[worthy knoll]

Ahh might not work

His B2 is Biscuit, Jackal is safe from brain dead cp gap team

Smart, but just need to make a decent team but still cp gap them

[swift mango]

You could just 3rl Cindy wipe and you should win.

[grizzled bone]

oh good Blood is here

i go back to sleep

[swift mango]

Nah I will go sleep instead

[grizzled bone]

it's time for your shift

im in bed already

[prisma marlin]

I lost against him with my last token with this comp, but it was quick battle. (I had read there was no difference though)

[swift mango]

Yeah, you fed him to 3rl while being a 4rl team and got wiped.

And 319/372 was barely with range to not get stat deficit as well.

[prisma marlin]

I don’t know what you mean by fed sorry

[swift mango]

Jackal skill one give the team burst gen everytime she got hit by 10 bullets. The amount is about 1/4 of her normal shot. That what's jackal feed mean.

And you team should launch like 100 bullet at jackal in 3 RL. Enough to make their team having enough burst gen to move from 4rl team to 3rl burst and wipe you with their Scarlet.

Before your 4rl team could even burst 1.

Their team also feed you Jackal. But Red hood only fire 3 shot in 3rl comparing to Liter who fire few dozens more.

[swift mango]

So, how much is the power of your auto team? If it's around 450k you should win with that alone.

Otherwise, consider something like

JACKAL+Blanc+Cindy+Anis/Centi/Rumani+SBS

Even better if you don't use Blanc but another RL/SR instead.

[fiery parcel]

Can anybody help update my arena team? Roster as shown

[prisma marlin]

The highest I can field is 441

[fiery parcel]

Also can recommend a rookie team?

[swift mango]

That's nearly 60% stat reduction on his 319k team. Could try it out for fun.

[round pilot]

What OL stat do Jackal need in PVP?

CS and DEF?

[glad meteor]

CS and 2 other lines for combat power

Wouldn’t say need but helps some teams become harder to counter if you can reach 17% CS breakpoint on clip RLs

[round pilot]

What boost the most CP? Sometime I see the stat nice but the CP dropped

They should make a before and after stat with CP so at least we know.

[quick lake]

All same tier lines provide the same CP, exception ele providing 1.2x CP
Tier 11 Def = T11 Hitrate = T11 Atk etc

[quick lake]

Probably CS. The rest is mostly CP padding

[vapid lake]

i can still feel the effects of the 4 free attacks on my bracket, it's still chaotic

and i just lost my last free attack chip

[glad meteor]

Someone used up their 10 rookie hits on my alt I think

[vapid lake]

i decided to be nice and hit 10 different names with those rookie arena hits

[glad meteor]

I’ll save for a rainy day

[covert lintel]

just hit rank 1 until u rank 1

[vapid lake]

it's rookie arena i don't care lol

i just click the 3rd name

unless i see one of my sp arena rivals name pops up then i hit them

especially this one guy who just. wont. give. up.

every day

[swift mango]

This is a chill bracket if only him attacking you 2 a day. Now if another guy joined in...

[swift mango]

I fed other people with wins.

[vapid lake]

the others spent their attacks to probe my defense, failed, then gave up

and settled for fighting for c3

except this dumbass who can easily cp gap everyone and take c3 and shut them all down

but he rather attack me every day and lose 300-600 gems every season

[swift mango]

There is no such thing as giving up in my bracket unless they lost all their attempts.

2 whale at p1-2. So I who won c3 the 2 seasons after shuffle became the sole target of attack for the c4-6.

[vapid lake]

your issue not mine

[swift mango]

This is the real pressure situation.

This should be my most successful def ever since the start of this year... But even this won't hold for long.

I have no problem beating the c2 whale but just having no attempt left to attack him.

Just waiting for the other c6 to wake up and successfully attack me so I could change my def again...

[graceful grotto]

Not sure what changes but dude suddenly lost to my defense lol

[swift mango]

Getting to the cornerstone of level +1?

Like 301 now?

Either that or you just changed your def.

Or dude just changed his lazy attack line up and up then autoed u.

[slow heart]

can you guys help me with my defense teams? I have 2 players that are about as strong as me on my server since the reshuffle but now the guy in 5th place started attacking me

[graceful grotto]

Yeah but his CP and level is still higher than me

[slow heart]

I have every unit other then the first 2 collabs

[swift mango]

Well, a few stat increase could make a difference ofc

[graceful grotto]

Not the changes that he's not used to lol, cause dude have been attacking me left and right hahaha

[graceful grotto]

Are you guys using rapipi on arena?

[swift mango]

I currently only have her Helm and Arm OL... Not seeing much use in her now.

When I get the skill reset I would consider building her to max to replace DKW in campaign mode. But not now.

[swift mango]

#pvp-arena message

[graceful grotto]

Who u gonna reset

[swift mango]

DKW, but that would be a tough decision

[graceful grotto]

Damn

[swift mango]

DKW would still back to 777 though rather than 101010

[graceful grotto]

I'll just slowly build rapipi up lol

Now she's 9 8 8, so don't have to reset

Almost reset Asuka hahahaha

[swift mango]

Well... I still need to invest more into arena units.... Especially defense options to buff up their CP and usage..... I wished I was luckier with OL lines.

[graceful grotto]

For skill books who you invest on? I think aside from B3 on burst unit there's not much pvp units that need high skills level no?

[swift mango]

Well, Moran, Noise, Rossanna all want as much investment as possible... I waste books to make Biscuit s3 to lv7 but not much use now....

[graceful grotto]

Ah noise frfr

[swift mango]

Since I had to crap my ASS team altogether

[graceful grotto]

I haven't invest in Rosanna or Moran lol

[rigid abyss]

Need teams, for research purpose

[graceful grotto]

Now gotta invest in SR unit first, I focus too much on pvp previously my SR is so bad lol

Is your scarlet 10 10 10?

[swift mango]

Also Blanc s3... If you want to use Grave now instead of future XAnne, you also want to invest in Grave s3.

[graceful grotto]

I stucked Blanc s3 at 7, maybe need to go to 10

Grave investing for pvp? Interesting, I'm considering her after I finish my SG team since she's good for raids

[swift mango]

This comp was sponsor my High CP unit comparing to those of my level in the bracket and a mast lv60 p2.

Hard to replicate

[rigid abyss]

[slow heart]

[swift mango]

Gonna be hard to fix. Especially T2 who is barely enough CP for your level to maybe not in stats deficit.

Could try to add Rumani and Anis somewhere replacing those CP padding units to improve the speed so long as it's not falling below 440-450k.

[slow heart]

like this?

[swift mango]

Too much power dropped and don't use this team at all

[slow heart]

I didn't give them gear and a doll yet, just want to know if this is the comp you had in mind

[swift mango]

I mean

You could replace

Grave with Anis. and Rouge with Rumani.

Alice with a clip SG or Laplace+ or Xmaiden

[slow heart]

so like this? (I now gave them a sr doll and lvl 0 gear

[swift mango]

Ugh no.... Try post your box...

And ask people to build you 3 full team then.

[slow heart]

here

[slow heart]

I did ask for defense teams

[swift mango]

Do your Scarlet to Moran even had OL on?

[slow heart]

one or 2 pieces

[swift mango]

How is your level compared to the rest of your bracket?

[slow heart]

nr1 is 381

I usually trade places with nr2 but now nr 5 attacked me and thats why I am currently 5th

[swift mango]

Are you spending money on core dust?

Or not?

[slow heart]

yes

[swift mango]

When did you start the game btw?

Which event?

[slow heart]

but currently saving cd in case they release story before the ur + I should be able to push to 24-35 A1 for the extra cd/h

[slow heart]

moran

[swift mango]

So later of January? Hmmm so pretty normal level speed.

I would assume top 10 of your bracket having similar level.

[slow heart]

I gain about 20 lvl per month

and all the others (other then nr1, he is same stage as me) are still stuck on mw so I level faster then them

also, I only started buying cd in october so I could keep up with nr1 since he is also on my pve server, hm campaign is the only ranking where I am currently ahead of him

[swift mango]

Your quantum cube level?

I would assume level 7 then

[slow heart]

I have bastion and resil at 9 (missing 10 batteries for resil 10)

[swift mango]

Jackal full OL?

Sr doll?

[slow heart]

sr0

2ol

3 once I have gear to spare again lol

[swift mango]

Put quantum on the 3 units with level 3 on it.

[slow heart]

thx

is that normal scarlet or bs?

I assume bs because of the dots

[swift mango]

SBS. Could replace Crown with RH, then swap position with Centi.

[swift mango]

How much is the CS of your Emilia?

[slow heart]

her skills are 477, no cs ol

[swift mango]

If you ran into CP problem... (You probably will) Just Replace Rumani with Red Hood.

[slow heart]

yeah team 3 gains 70k pwr with rh

lol just noticed my noa has no doll

[loud sonnet]

He broke my def

[swift mango]

I see...

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-respectfully-looking-gif-22947769

[slow heart]

@swift mango thx lol

he just wasted the 300 gems the top 3 spot would have given him

[loud sonnet]

600 gems gone

[tropic summit]

T1: viper centi cind pepper ein
T2: scarlet blanc rh laplace(treasure) jackal
T3: noah rumani biscuit s.anis SBS

cubes:

quantum on centi and jackal is mandatory to eat the RL threshold
quantum also on rumani
vigor on pepper, blanc, biscuit, rumani
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis, must also be lvl 9 burst for ammo requirement
rest can run any high available lvl cube

notes:

wishlist noise and rapunzel asap, can be used to improve further ur lineup

consideration:

-your current buffless scarlet is the weakest team, suggest always running her double buffed if 3RL, or with rosanna if 2.5RL (yours is not invested atm)
-you can also find a table with investiment from strongest to weakest, consider investing in those marked with a x, as they'll drop your CP overall

(the numbers correspond to the team assigned)

[keen vapor]

Me

[swift mango]

This guy has some serious problems.

Either being too whale and doesn't give a damn. Or just butthurt without bother learning Arena properly.

[tropic summit]

i think it's the typical brute force approach, run weird teams until something works

it's people who don't mind losing gems because they literally eat them for breakfast

[swift mango]

Yeah, maybe they are too whale, who knows.

[swift mango]

My def is working now, but not entirely.

Idk if I should try changing a bit or just keep it as is.

🤔

[unreal geyser]

Team. Help

[swift mango]

I have some idea to improve it so maybe I will be testing with tomorrow rookie then...

[unreal geyser]

Not sure what to do

[celest moat]

I’m not very knowledgeable with team comp synergy for PvP so I’m not gonna give teams but I know that you’d want to use Jackal (burst gen), Biscuit, Privaty(Stun enemies), Anis on some occasions for burst gen, Noise for quick healing

[tropic summit]

you don't have enough batteries to build proper 3 teams, although you can run 1 3RL, 1 4RL and 1 auto padded team for now

T1: marciana cind noir anis noise
T2: blanc sbs rrh biscuit jackal
T3: auto fill per highest CP available (or laplace asuka crown volume s.anis)

note: anis must be put in synchro

wishlist to get asap: centi, noah, scarlet, rapunzel, rumani

[upper grove]

when do they usually announce the updated treasure kits?

[keen vapor]

Eva Collab at 131 synch

[keen vapor]

Play more

[tropic summit]

maybe he has 9999 packed away boxes

[keen vapor]

Campaign for example

[tropic summit]

but ye, very much 🧱

[keen vapor]

There's not an usual time

[upper grove]

I just want to use my doll kits if any of them are great

[upper grove]

summer anis as well

[keen vapor]

Brick :deadge:

[unreal geyser]

I have rumani but which rapunzel?

[upper grove]

OG rapu, not free rapu

[keen vapor]

The one without subtitle

[strong hull]

[quick lake]

The lewd one

[keen vapor]

Which

[quick lake]

Give me treasure kits soon plz

[upper grove]

is it still planned for January?

[keen vapor]

who knows

[quick lake]

Supposedly

[keen vapor]

When they where first introduced? Crown update?

[quick lake]

Patch notes said new treasures were jan to early feb iirc. So just gotta wait

[upper grove]

Hmm should I wait for just go for RH? She's currently at SR5. the treasure units have no OL/bond atm but I have saved up

[tropic summit]

you could play it safe and stock up for now, then use them once it's clear what treasure is worth or not

SR5 is good enough for pvp, although if you wanted to push campaign RH on SR15 is pretty useful

[strong hull]

That a must tho

[upper grove]

skill books are stretched thin atm, guess I'll wait for the treasure kits. RH doesn't even have 7/7/7

[tropic summit]

aye, progress should be first priority

[quick lake]

Will probably get better after Collab units. Can save till summer

[upper grove]

I 100% put story progress first but I'm stuck at MC

[strong hull]

Where Echo Rail-chan

He Escaped my basement

[tropic summit]

you just missed him as he was here literally 10 minutes ago

[strong hull]

Time to cook his ahh

Ignoring my req 2 times

[upper grove]

what's the CP gain from SR5 to 15 roughly?

[strong hull]

About 10%

[coarse lake]

it's not that big

maybe if low sync

[strong hull]

Should be around or below that

[upper grove]

245 atm, should be low sync

[coarse lake]

at mid 300s, doing that to crown barely made a difference

[keen vapor]

6k

.... Zix-k

[sterile lion]

May i get help with special arena pvp teams?

[fiery parcel]

Thanks. I just pulled rapunzel. Any chang3s to the teams?

[swift mango]

Is this all your SSR or you having more that's not showed

Your team is very low synch level considering you started in summer event at least... So you should have more SSR.

[swift mango]

It's summer event units there. So much sooner than Eva Collab.

[keen vapor]

Giga brick

Guys, I think we forgot something

[keen vapor]

Please post your units in power order, horizontal

Guys, we forgot

[sterile lion]

Is there a UI that squeezes all the nikkes into 1 page

[keen vapor]

Nah

[sterile lion]

like how did he make this

[keen vapor]

Horizontal helps with getting more, but it may be not all

[keen vapor]

Photoshop

[slow heart]

I took 4 screenshots and put them together into 1 image lol

[keen vapor]

Photoshop

[lunar dirge]

power of the screenshot+paint

[swift mango]

Could go with

Noah+Biscuit+Rapunzel+SBS/ASS+Rumani.

Mind the CP though. Unbuilt Rapu could be too low CP and not worth using.

[fiery parcel]

Ok thanks

[thin frost]

I need some help with Def teams for arena, mine are not doing do hot right now

[tropic summit]

stick with your current teams for now, once and if you start having defense losses, we can tweak them

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

do you've a rumani lying around?

[thin frost]

no rumani

[keen vapor]

Who sussed it, now I can't trust

[sterile lion]

smh

[tropic summit]

scarlet blanc rh laplace+ jackal
centi naga cind emi rrh
noah noise biscuit s.anis rapu

cubes

quantum is mandatory as on the SS provided below to hit RL thresholds
vigor on blanc, biscuit, noise
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis, s.anis must be lvl 9 burst skill, else use SBS or alice instead
anyone else run with your highest available cube

wishlist: rumani for extra battery

note: could aim for a 2.5RL or 2RL in case your def teams start failing

[thin frost]

thank you so much

[fiery parcel]

Btw what is the current rookie arena team i should use?

[sly yew]

Hi there, been playing for awhile and not bothered too too much before but what would be a good lineup for arena offense and defense? I’m sitting on a lot of resources for gear so I can take anyone up (have everyone but chainsaw man crossover)

[thin frost]

oh yeah i wonder that as well, a solid rookie team for defense @tropic summit

[tropic summit]

for rookie run this

[fiery parcel]

Currently using noah/scarlet/biscuit/rhood/jackal

My laplace has no treasure

[tropic summit]

the team i provided above is likely an upgrade, 2RL anti nuke while nuking on your own, albeit still counterable if opponent has a brain, but that's rookie

[fiery parcel]

Still ok to use?

[tropic summit]

uh lemme check we can probably use xmaiden instead

[tropic summit]

go with this

[tropic summit]

you could go with this for rookie

[bleak latch]

Rapi pvp

[strong hull]

If if

No emi

What should i use

[tropic summit]

any clip SG burst gen can replace emi there

[strong hull]

[umbral crown]

Yes but when MA

[tropic summit]

Rosy MA instead?

[umbral crown]

[tropic summit]

legit reaction

[umbral crown]

You can do it

[strong hull]

Blood and Rail-chan should be MA

[tropic summit]

nah, let's leave it to @keen vapor

[strong hull]

Pvp was quite dead before them

[umbral crown]

Si

New pvp generation players

[sly yew]

man I've been playing wayyy too casual idk what half of whats been said even means lmao

[strong hull]

Hes getting his treatment at my basement rn

[tropic summit]

it actually takes 5-10 minutes read, i started from here myself

https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/

then you start messing around with burst gen calculators and play

[sly yew]

Alright, will take a look. Thanks

[keen vapor]

cooking huh, no Ice Maiden either.... Please start overloading that Rumani and Anis of yours

[tropic summit]

you're going to cook all 4 of those?

echo's life is rough

[keen vapor]

Is 4 pages, not 3x4 teams

[tropic summit]

oh good, I just didn't notice

for a moment i thought it was 4 accounts or something

considering the amount of nikke in that account you could slap that screenshotted txt piece of paper

[keen vapor]

@sterile lion you can just auto instead of the third team if you prefer

But you'll have to overload Rumani and Anis sooner or later

Specially when not owning Jackal/Ice Maiden

[lunar dirge]

me ma

I shall become

the true hater

https://tenor.com/view/reverse-flash-gif-27280273

[tropic summit]

just become a mod instead, true chaos unleashed

[keen vapor]

@tropic summit I think you will look at becoming MA like buying attempts in events in retrospective

[tropic summit]

i don't like touching grass tho, i like my comfy apartment after having already enough social life at workplace

or you meant the ingame events

[lunar dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-satoru-gojo-lock-in-nah-id-win-amenathus-gif-1889648742143147519

[keen vapor]

Yes

[tropic summit]

oooh then i got it, eh who knows

[strong hull]

You what?

Its Joever Rail-chan

Time to turn off discord and touch grass

[tropic summit]

ppl has been trying doing that for years, colleagues and friends, noone managed to and noone will

[swift mango]

My starting arena article was the burst gen chart of Wiki.gg lol...

[tropic summit]

i'm the master of dodging workplace events and dinners

[tropic summit]

when blood was still young and innocent, little did he know what he'd step into

[strong hull]

Life is salty

However cope with it

[tropic summit]

eh you think? at the end of the day i think everyone got at least the choice to make it less or more salty

[swift mango]

Yeah, I had some serious confusion reading it

[strong hull]

Everyone have a choice, but they never chose it

[swift mango]

But then the burst gen calculation article of Prydwen was even worse to understand... Thanks f the Burst gen calculator here has better explanation of how burst gen works. Much better than a guide from wiki...

[keen vapor]

Now time to cook for myself

[tropic summit]

in january/february i had still the idea that all RL were producing the same burst gen till i got informed

[tropic summit]

echo about to be ch3

[keen vapor]

Problem is keeping it

[keen vapor]

Me using Yuni Biscuit so I can lifesteal with RH and increased charge speed

[tropic summit]

now that's something i didn't think of, interesting idea there 🤔

[tropic summit]

against their T2, would a blanc + cindy still kill SBS and leave only rumani and bay alive? or they'd survive? 🤔

although i guess an indom emi would be more reliable against bay

[coarse lake]

you would prob lose

if bay bursts, cindy won't do much

[keen vapor]

Yuni is super slow RL

[coarse lake]

even if you add in rh b1

[keen vapor]

First, I've already heard Bay can work against Cindy

Second, I already tried Indom Emilia

[coarse lake]

just run a 2rl cindy tbh

also indom emi should work against that setup

[keen vapor]

Yeah... He's all 3RL on his teams

[coarse lake]

t1 god comp, t2 standard emi nuke

[keen vapor]

Two defenders got biscuit proc

Well, even one would have ruined me

[coarse lake]

oh wait I forgot your bscar is trash

[keen vapor]

I already told it failed

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

right, forgot myself

[coarse lake]

what's the emi nuke comp

[tropic summit]

well we could actually stick to emi and cindy nuke as eon suggested tho

2RL cindy on their bay team and noah emi for t1? 🤔

[coarse lake]

his cindy prob isn't strong enough unbuffed esp with noise there

if cindy can't kill with nuke they win

[tropic summit]

oh right there's a biscuit tho

[keen vapor]

Emi Blanc RH ice maiden Jackal

[coarse lake]

who died to nuke

[keen vapor]

Everyone but Rumani and Bay

[coarse lake]

I would have done blanc/emi/rh/biscuit/centi

biscuit helps you win the post indom fight if there is any

[keen vapor]

Right

[coarse lake]

well that means you got nothing for t1 unless you have max rosa

unless you do the other version of god comp

with cindy and someone else iirc

oh yeah I forgot that my rh is stonks

just straight up kills biscuit raw

[keen vapor]

Something funny just happened, someone is using the golden chips

[coarse lake]

so ig idk what happens if biscuit lives

[keen vapor]

I don't have limit breaks

[coarse lake]

but considering how healthy my team was due to biscuit.... eh you prob have a chance

worst case it's good data

[coarse lake]

just get ele

[keen vapor]

3 ele already

[tropic summit]

[keen vapor]

Hey, I can still test against him

[coarse lake]

then try it

[tropic summit]

your new setups with moran right?

let's see them

[cedar orbit]

I like how they keep updating the date, but they refuse to correct the fake news

[keen vapor]

So, Blanc Biscuit and... 4rl god comp?

[tropic summit]

oh yeah, a good point here, they still didn't fix this

[coarse lake]

is your cindy and noise linked in noise/jackal/rapunzel/cindy/noah

[keen vapor]

Oh

[keen vapor]

[coarse lake]

only problem other than that is if they're a fast version of scar, potentially outspeeding you since you might not reach 2rl

[keen vapor]

Noise yes but I'll have to check for Cindy

[coarse lake]

if cindy is unlinked that's honestly fine, as long as noise is

well...

nah cindy prob needs to be linked

and record

although your setup might fail bc of ammo rolls

[bleak shale]

leme go dm some people

[keen vapor]

He's quite fast I have to admit
-# From a previous attempt

Not visible there but he has 58 ammo on Scar

While me no ammo

[coarse lake]

eh that's a 2.5rl then

you need feed with jackal

this is probably fine

the more quantums the better tho

[keen vapor]

Emilia quantum less

Well, time for resilience

~~Checking math Cindy is unlinked, one attack line not enough deadge ~~

[tropic summit]

chad

[keen vapor]

Huh :Quiry huh:

[tropic summit]

so recapping, you currently struggle with their T1 and T2 right?

[keen vapor]

Yes

Going to try god comp and ICBM

[tropic summit]

oki let's see then based on how those go

[swift mango]

So do you have Rumani?

[keen vapor]

Good job Blood, you make me lose

You killed my Emilia

[swift mango]

Nice to blame when I didn't even participate

[swift mango]

Anyway, do you have Rumani?

[keen vapor]

Uninvested

[swift mango]

Gg

[tropic summit]

at least you've one , mine is permantently dead

[tropic summit]

anyway we need the recordings, gotta see 👀

[swift mango]

Your Emi team won't work then.

[coarse lake]

?

p2 emi died pre-burst?

[swift mango]

Killed By Lap+ and Emi of Noah team. It's normal.

[glad meteor]

Does that t2 win?

[coarse lake]

oh I thought he already tested it against the bay comp

[tropic summit]

iunno yet, waiting for the recordings from Echo

[coarse lake]

yeah that lineup is the cn whale special

[tropic summit]

oh there

[keen vapor]

This stupid timing

The stupid timing of Blanc giving Indom to dead unit

[coarse lake]

bruh

what invest is your emi, and what cube

[glad meteor]

Emi lowest defence too

[keen vapor]

SR5 full overload, resilience 8

[tropic summit]

oh ok now i understand why @keen vapor said @swift mango killed his Emi

message popped up when she died

[keen vapor]

[coarse lake]

[swift mango]

Lol

[tropic summit]

i almost spat my drink when i saw it live

either way that's sadge, if emi would just live that'd probably be a win

you'd be dealing with the survivors from biscuit passives and that's about it, rest should be dead

[coarse lake]

your god comp sucks

[swift mango]

You will need B1 taunt or Def manipulation

To fight sbs

[coarse lake]

rapu being linked prob helped tbf, but your noah has taunt almost entire time

[keen vapor]

HE HAS 4 BLACK ATTACK LINES, I'M SURE OF IT

[coarse lake]

noah stealing aggro prevented you from being 2rl, should be glad their scar team doesn't have cs

you almost didn't block in time

[keen vapor]

I mean, Blanc was the only one alive

[covert lintel]

ig just change emi to p3, rh to p4 and biscuit to p2

[coarse lake]

what cube is emi using

biscuit probably won't die in p2

[tropic summit]

yeah the curious thing here is that your blanc bugged out, noone received her indom and emi is dead with actual HP remaining

you'd think indom would go to centi/biscuit at least

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

but literally noone received it

[swift mango]

Ugh, why even use Emi-blanc against SBS?

Just use your Moran+Biscuit it....

[coarse lake]

probably doesn't have the dmg to kill

even if you use sanis, most likely won't kill anyone

[tropic summit]

how about pushing that team to 2.5RL so emi has enough time to receive indom? 🤔

[coarse lake]

once bay burst goes up, main option is to just icbm it, otherwise not enough dmg

faster emi comp could work.... but I got a feeling his emi is too weak for that

[tropic summit]

why is everything a brick with Echo's account

[coarse lake]

well ig you can also try somehow doing a 2.5rl noah biscuit cindy comp against scar... which might work?

but then your emi team is what you've tried and failed with already

tbh

just do blanc/emi/rapu/biscuit/centi against their cindy comp

should be enough dmg to nuke, they got no true sustain

[tropic summit]

aye this is gud

dead emi? no prob, revive

losing 1 buff hopefully won't tank the nuke too much 🤔

[coarse lake]

inb4 emi so weak cindy lives and kills your team with autos

[covert lintel]

for t2 is actually ez
i often use rh's pewpewpew when opponent place biscuit p5 like that

[coarse lake]

his rh sucks, my rh does the same, kills biscuit before full burst

even if he were to rh b3, prob not enough time to kill team

oh my rh kills right at start of full burst

well as long as before nuke lands it's fine

[keen vapor]

Ok so I fight sincere or what

[tropic summit]

we got 10 minutes

[keen vapor]

Reset is soon

[coarse lake]

throw another quantum on someone in cindy god comp, run revive emi against t3

[lunar dirge]

my rh kills biscuit in 2 shots while double buffed not bursting

[coarse lake]

yeah once rh b1 happens, she does a lot of dmg

[tropic summit]

biscuit in p5 is essentially a death sentence

[coarse lake]

yeah whichever cn guide they're copying this setup from didn't optimize very well

[tropic summit]

oh 3 atk% lines and 3 elem. tho

[coarse lake]

hmm

ig all of their units could just be beefy af

[keen vapor]

I switched to Anis in God comp, and Rapunzel in Biscuit comp

[tropic summit]

SR15 on everyone and bay running lvl 7 temperance and noise lvl 7 vigor?

[keen vapor]

I told you

I ducking can't with this anymore

[keen vapor]

My head hurts and couldn't notice this

[tropic summit]

oh no...

[keen vapor]

Yeah

[tropic summit]

well, there's always tomorrow

[keen vapor]

I wrote it for a reason no one said anything

[tropic summit]

I thought you were following Eon advise... RIP

[keen vapor]

Stupid Rumani you better get R15 soon

[tropic summit]

pray to the RNGod hard and you shall

[kindred tinsel]

finally got someone to spend gems on me

[swift mango]

To be frank though, I should be able to handle this guy pretty fine. At lv322.

T1 with XMaiden nuke 2rl. Or 2.5RL scarlet without Blanc.

T2 with 2rl Cindy.

T3 my Emilia team would make a quick work of this... The only problem is if I could kill their Cindy in time or not because of the level gap.

[keen vapor]

On second thought, wouldn't ice maiden be enough?

[swift mango]

Are they also brick level just like you? It's not gemming though, maybe from the 4 chips they compensated.

Hmm... The back to back Anni-Christmas-New year-Eva combo, plus 4 chips, plus holiday time making people more active in arena.

I finally have a spare attack at the end of the day to rat this guy again... He would take it back in 3 hours though.

Rumani rerolling for CS made my Emi team a bit into stats deficits but still won just fine.

[coarse lake]

Buttocks

[kindred tinsel]

yeah we been fighting for the same spot for months and finally caught up to him in cp

we had a 200k dif before

[swift mango]

His name is translated as "Just because you are so beautiful".

So beautiful buttocks alright. Very suitable player for this game .

[tropic summit]

for killing scarlet pre blanc burst? yes

you'd probably kill blanc aswell with scarlet 🤔

[swift mango]

I mean

My

Scarlet+XMaiden+RH+Anis+Jackal. Team

Handle

Scarlet+Blanc+Mirror

Pretty fine.

[tropic summit]

although opponent is on 2.5RL iirc on their T1

might be CS% on both jackal and centi

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Centi+RH+Anis+Jackal.

Then

If he can't compete in CS.

[swift mango]

I don't think it's exactly 2.5 RL though, should have the same speed as Echo team. Or Echo Rapunzel... Who should have like 10% CS?

[keen vapor]

@swift mango

This + 1.59% from Adjutant

I think I'll level up Adjutant after this raid

[prisma marlin]

Huzzah!

[tropic summit]

for now

rookie is a wild west

[prisma marlin]

I know right. We didn’t even burst … so can’t run that as defense team…

[tropic summit]

well, if you know that you out CP everyone in that bracket, may aswell

[prisma marlin]

Nahh this guy is top 3 in the other arena, and were same synchro level. I’m just happy to not have a third strait loss day.

I had no idea about a 4 RL team comp…

[lunar dirge]

you have no idea about sac comps and how some teams like my crown team work

PvP cooks are honestly fun

[past drift]

Okay thx

Wo do you mean exactly in the third team? There are 3 Maiden and I don't know who you mean where

[prisma marlin]

It seems interesting but like, I’ve been playing for six months and slept walk sp arena.. so I didn’t think much about it.. then I got bodied for two days and it pissed me off.

[tropic summit]

in a sense, the wake up call worked there

once your comfort zone was denied, you were forced into growing your knowledge 🤔

[prisma marlin]

My Bulli’s is whel

Imagine rh and crown…

[lunar dirge]

[prisma marlin]

Wasted a token to do 1dmg shots on #1 guy…

[unreal geyser]

I have more but those are the ones that I have synchronized

I've been on and off the game which is why I'm so low leveled

[tropic summit]

at what point can you report them on the assumption they've stolen a bank to get that amount of stuff ingame?

[lunar dirge]

yes

[tropic summit]

mf is gonna be twice your level by the middle of this year

[rain totem]

@worthy knoll do you have a good team for these battles

[swift mango]

XMaiden = Christmas Maiden = Maiden Ice Rose

[swift mango]

Yeah, then around 2.5rl then. Guess you need 2RL team to wipe it.

So a strong enough XMaiden or ScarJackal 2RL should be fine...

[keen vapor]

Emilia doesn't makes it

[swift mango]

??? 2RL Emilia? Why?

[keen vapor]

Classic ICBM against Noise Bay

[swift mango]

I was saying 2RL xmaiden to wipe Scarlet link. Then 2-2.5RL Cindy to wipe the Bay team or Noah team.

The easiest answer to everything is just wipe them before they even burst

Also, there is more to ICBM than just p2 Emi to be killed.

[vague quartz]

is there any decent team i can make for pvp with these characters? I only recently started

[swift mango]

SBS+XMaiden+Blanc+Liter+Anis

[vague quartz]

Does using Blanc without Noir matter in pvp?

[fickle elm]

Sending a few screenshots…looking for suggestions for three PVP team comps

Here are all my SSRs

[swift mango]

You might want to show them all so members here like Rail could give you 3 optimal team.

Since some units are good in Arena but you could never put into synchro otherwise.

[swift mango]

Reset Rossana, Ein, Helm and use the resources to level up your synchro machine.

[fickle elm]

Much love, thank you.

[swift mango]

For Arena teams, Centi, Noah, Biscuit take permanent synchro slots.

So put them in.

[unreal geyser]

Bruh

[unreal geyser]

Here's part

There

[worthy knoll]

My bad, i was playing GFL2 until it kicked me out

[loud sonnet]

[swift mango]

Crown+Rumani+Biscuit+Anis+Cinderella

SBS(need to be top 2 highest attack in the team and having lower HP than the other top 2)+Blanc+RH+Noir+Jackal.

Auto team

[worthy knoll]

T3 should be easy with a Scar/Anne(or Blanc)/Rosanna(or RH)/Biscuit/Jackal

T2 Should be fine with any 2 RL Noah lineup, prolly like Noah Centi Anis SBS Noise with Noise at least same or more CS, something like Noah/Centi/XMaiden/Laplace+/Noise (quantum on Centi, and at least +one more between the other 3 RLs)

T1 well I wanna say Nero team, but well it usually an investment battle, with you lower sync is kinda disadvantageous. You can try your luck with a Blanc Emi with Biscuit I guess.. or a slow Blanc Cindy team. Tho I think this one you better skip 🤔

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Blanc+RH+Centi+Jackal

Noah+Biscuit+SBS+Rapunzel+Tia

Auto team.

[swift mango]

Otherwise

Liter+Centi+Scarlet+Anis+Jackal

Blanc+RH+Biscuit+Emilia+Xmaiden

Noah+Rapunzel+SBS+Noir+Tia

If you needed 3 team to start investing in.

[unreal geyser]

Ight thanks

[rain totem]

@worthy knoll so t1 and 2 like this?

[worthy knoll]

Not enough CP

And its on T3 and T2

But yeah you are on penalty using those

[rain totem]

Hmm not sure i can get more cp right now

Ill just try to build them up later

[worthy knoll]

Mmh so we have the same sync

I'm 462 tho

Can you show me your roster ordered by power in horizontal mode (from the Nikke menu on the lobby to be more accurate)

Just the first 3 rows should be fine

[worthy knoll]

Against their Scar team, need at least 854k CP
The other two, need at least 937k CP

[keen vapor]

@swift mango how many attack lines on your Ice Maiden?

[swift mango]

Zero. Need buffed by Noise though.

[keen vapor]

But you said you used RH

[swift mango]

If you have Lap+, throw her in too.

[swift mango]

It was RH+Scarlet team...

[keen vapor]

Nah...

[swift mango]

You don't have Lap+?

[keen vapor]

Worse invested than Rumani

[swift mango]

I mean, do you have Lap+ or not...

[keen vapor]

I do

[swift mango]

So you do have treasure Laplace?

[swift mango]

Then Rumani Also with OL?

[keen vapor]

@trim gate I told you that using + for the normal one was a bad idea

[worthy knoll]

i doubt treasure lap+ can be less invested than Rumani

[trim gate]

I have no idea why I am pinged here, or what we're talking about?

[solid flare]

is SSRapi relevant to pvp at all?

[keen vapor]

Lap+.... Wait, was it .... Who wrote that one again

[trim gate]

Red Rapi is not good for PvP, no

[swift mango]

Yeah but pretty mid, only good if highly invested and mainly for attacking

[solid flare]

not even as a quarterback burst 3?

[keen vapor]

Glossary

#1259866797490966559

[trim gate]

I don't remember, I've always annoted Treasure characters with a T in front of their name. TLaplace, TExia, TMilk, etc..

[keen vapor]

@chilly furnace we need a way to distinct treasure version from normal one

[worthy knoll]

In my case, whenever Laplace is mentioned in pvp, it should be treasured one coz non treasured Lap+ has no spot here

[trim gate]

It isn't so much Rapi's damge that is the question, but as a Machine Gun Nikke, her Burst Gen is horrendous.

[solid flare]

is Cindy not in the same position?

[swift mango]

Max out treasure but 0 OL and 4/4/4 skill. I have seen that one guy on here before.

[keen vapor]

Her nuke is too OP, far better than Scarlet, and without MG levels of feed

[worthy knoll]

And I still doubt you can call that less investment than Rumani

[swift mango]

Cindy doesn't feed as much as MG. and doesn't need buffer to wipe a team.

[solid flare]

feed is also a concern

[swift mango]

My Rumani is 5/5/5 and 4 OL, r15. Rerolled for 2 CS. I think that's a bit more invested than just SR15 alone.

[chilly furnace]

By naming?

La+ and la++??

[keen vapor]

Yeh

[chilly furnace]

La++ it is

[worthy knoll]

Nah SR15 still more investment.

Unless you SR15 too your Rumani that is

[swift mango]

Well, defending on your luck as well

[keen vapor]

[worthy knoll]

Depending*

[keen vapor]

Lap of discipline

[swift mango]

Yeah, Some guy just Bluex15 3 times and sr15

Easy

[worthy knoll]

Okay do that too since its easy

[chilly furnace]

done lol

@keen vapor

[swift mango]

I have seen one guy like that. The same guy with max out treasure.

[worthy knoll]

Yeah but can you?

[swift mango]

And no OL

[swift mango]

Well, depend on my luck of the day

[worthy knoll]

Can everyone can get SR15 with just blue 3 times

You say easy

Like its some stroll in the park

[swift mango]

Well, it's easier than 3 Rapipi in 10 pulls

You can look at Gacha section

[worthy knoll]

Your going off tangent, we are talking about simply OLing your unit with just 4 rocks and SR15ing a doll

[swift mango]

Not 4 rock for New player but 10 day+ of farming mats

Reroll for 2 CS took me 20 rocks already, not to mention.

[worthy knoll]

Well you are the one who chose to do that

[trim fable]

what can i use against this in rookie?

[keen vapor]

My Rumani will not have charge speed

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

I wished they had an option to just spend 5 rock to target lock a line in the first roll...

That would save me so much rocks.

What good luck to start a day with

[trim fable]

ig this works

[keen vapor]

try
Noah/Centi/Biscuit/Rumani/Cinderella

[keen vapor]

A

Nevermind then

[trim fable]

no rumani as well

[keen vapor]

Jackal

[trim fable]

that also works

[keen vapor]

[thin marsh]

looking for any general improvements to my sp defense teams? haven't updated them in a while. my SBS, xmaiden, cindy are pretty invested but not sure where to slot them in. i have all other nikke too except emilia, but my others (ie. moran, rumani) are not invested yet

[quick lake]

Can probably run a Cindy team for Team 3. Alice gets easily countered by Defender + Biscuit

Something like:
Noise Noah Cindy Laplace xMaiden (3RL)

[thin marsh]

will try it out, thanks!

[quick lake]

Blanc Biscuit team might be a little slow. at 95% at 3RL, unless u have quantum7 cubes on the RL units. Can consider swapping out rapunzel if u want

T2, can consider swapping xanne for Mari as well imo. Mari + Scarlet alone should OHKO most enemies

[thin marsh]

i have quantum 7 on anis/sanis/biscuit and charge speed on rapu, should i switch to quantum on rapu

[quick lake]

U just need quantum7 on Biscuit, Rapu and Anis to hit 100%. SAnis should always have resilience

[swift mango]

Should work even without Centi

[swift mango]

If only Rapunzel was a Defender she would be SSS tier

[quick lake]

That would be pvp life changing

[thin marsh]

much appreciated, thanks. will make the mari swap as well

[keen vapor]

Huh : Rouge stare:

[vapid lake]

she'd be tankier and harder to kill by splash/aoe and also her healing/buffs would be higher

[quick lake]

I am done with my main pvp investments. Will start hoarding materials from now on

[vapid lake]

surely everyone has already used up all their 4 free attacks right?

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

I'm not....

[vapid lake]

i ran out defending my position from 2 different people spending it on me

[quick lake]

Still have noise s3 to level, but I'll get there slowly

[vapid lake]

i actually counted how many extra times i got attacked on specific days by the same people

[glad meteor]

@quick lake do you know if biscuit bay legit to survive cindy nuke?

[quick lake]

Moran Bay without Biscuit survives cindy's nuke

[vapid lake]

doesn't bay only block 1 hit from cindy burst for each person

[glad meteor]

Yeah

[vapid lake]

moran is probably the one saving your team becuz teamwide % dmg reduction

[glad meteor]

I thought with the damage share it was possible to survive with biscuit

[quick lake]

I think Bay P1 is kinda bad, cause cover broken

lemme test, havent test that arrangement

[swift mango]

She would make 5rl teams meta

And P1 Cindy viable

[glad meteor]

Yeah, placement for her is kind of weird

My bay 114

[swift mango]

Defending on the team. But p1 bay isn't much different than P2 bay.

[quick lake]

Bay should be P3/4 though

[swift mango]

So if can't put her p3-4 just put her p1.

[glad meteor]

I somehow made comps to beat the other 2 so I sent the biscuit bay. Feels like 4ol wasted

[swift mango]

Her cover will be fine unless Bombarded with Lap+ and Emi

[glad meteor]

Could’ve ol’d ssakura or something

[quick lake]

My guess is probably no though tbh the Biscuit + Bay interaction is so weird

[swift mango]

My is 445

[vapid lake]

Investing in bay not wasted when CA out
if CA out

[glad meteor]

2026

[swift mango]

Nah I don't have Noah so bay is good.

[vapid lake]

At some point gotta invest in nero too

[swift mango]

2026 and CA will be partially resolved.

[vapid lake]

When we need a tank for team 4/team 5

[glad meteor]

[quick lake]

Too many teams tbh

[glad meteor]

My roster washed, no scar.

[swift mango]

Better than no Noah

[quick lake]

Apparently, QeQ burst gets BUFFED by Jackal burst

[glad meteor]

Cindy
Mpriv nuke
Ein
Ros SG
Moran bisc sanis

This probably my teams

[swift mango]

Contest)

[glad meteor]

I only use qeq for sac against scar

[swift mango]

Try S.Sakura nuke.

[glad meteor]

Yeah

[swift mango]

[quick lake]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DHysv6EH5xNJgdUiRFEtPu50_LqZ8iaSbHqS9nTC5po/edit?tab=t.0#bookmark=id.5ixign5swk15
Another JP analysis. Nothing very new but still interesting. Can use google doc translate's tab

[glad meteor]

S.Sakura OL soon

Raid after wind

Weak

[quick lake]

Not sure how tested, but its interesting at least

[glad meteor]

Imagine using nuker that isn’t scar or cindy

Mid

[quick lake]

Scar overated

[swift mango]

Is this before the Jackal skill 1 fix? Is it real?

[vapid lake]

Ein

[glad meteor]

The S2 alone makes sanis easier to beat

[quick lake]

No clue tbh. The doc was updated 31/12/2024, so its pretty recent

[vapid lake]

For a while i was forced to use kilo that wasn't fun

[glad meteor]

Making double buffer to beat sanis is hard

If emi doesn’t work

[swift mango]

S.Sakura is better than Scarlet when you want to nuke Red Hood. Specifically

[glad meteor]

Redhood

Yeah, s2 stronk if she highest attack

Can use with ros otherwise she’s a mid cindy

[quick lake]

@glad meteor lmk if u test Biscuit + Bay against Cindy. My rookie got disconnected twice and lost 2 attempts

[glad meteor]

Shifty Up

[quick lake]

Moran + Bay wins Cindy + Noise
Noise + Bay + Biscuit loses Cindy + Noise

[swift mango]

I have no Cindy b3 in my rookie

[glad meteor]

I had to restart game twice to attack in sp

[quick lake]

I only have Cindy

[glad meteor]

Moran carry

[swift mango]

Everyone running scar-Jack.

Even when there's a Cindy, she is Off burst to Scarlet...

[quick lake]

NO ONE in my rookie runs scar at all

All Cindy and Emilia

[swift mango]

Emi is pretty easy to beat though

I wish my bracket has something else....

Maybe next shuffle

[quick lake]

Yeah it is. But nothing much to test against emilia, cause she OHKO

[glad meteor]

Mirror emi comps with ein

Her feathers hit faster than emi autos

[swift mango]

I could test various Blanc speed ... Would be so much fun

[glad meteor]

Blanc comps will be interesting in CA. Since you can possibly just mirror with dps that has a faster hit speed

[quick lake]

Like bursting slower with Blanc?

[glad meteor]

[swift mango]

Yeah

[quick lake]

Hmmmm

Maybe will try that out

[swift mango]

Then you get to reload at the end of the fight and lose an attemp

[glad meteor]

trust in ein feathers

Don’t actually though lol

Only half being serious

This was fun, giving indom to p5

[swift mango]

Could also try to find various ways to kill unprotected Emi p2 before burst

[swift mango]

This is why you put a tanky Defender in P5 with Vigor

[quick lake]

My main Emilia testing opponent, his Emilia just dies from my Rosanna burst

[prisma marlin]

Blood, Thank You Again

@ fail…

[swift mango]

Rossanna gonna my next target to s3 lv10...

Is SBS s3 lv7 enough for rock farming?

Burst skill mats are so rare...

[glad meteor]

10/7/10

[swift mango]

My ASS is so useless right now.... Any team suggestions for her that's without Noah?

[quick lake]

Blanc + SAnis

Thats the only viable SAnis team imo

[vapid lake]

I use her to buff ein

[swift mango]

But but Blanc+Scarlet...

[quick lake]

Hmmm, I stopped using Blanc scarlet, because scar usually has to OHKO.

Blanc indom buff wasted there

[glad meteor]

Bay biscuit sanis emi noise

[swift mango]

Too slow a team, ded to wipe no difference to normal ASS team I guess.

[quick lake]

Why u like put Bay in P1

[swift mango]

I also put my Bay in P1

[glad meteor]

Noise will die p1

[quick lake]

Go SR15 ur Noise

[glad meteor]

I can’t even sr15 crown

[quick lake]

[swift mango]

Noise p1 will ded in 3rl reload regardless

[glad meteor]

I spent a lot of rerolls on dispatch today

[quick lake]

Thats why gotta be faster than 3RL

[swift mango]

Now bring back her "healing" every charge attack...

[glad meteor]

Noise treasure

[quick lake]

New B1 buffer + healer + Battery

[swift mango]

New B1 defender that revives B2 only.

[glad meteor]

Want more answers to cindy

Don’t know if i want to invest in quiry stall. Will help against sanis comps. Depends if it’s stall or buffed though

[quick lake]

How do stall comps even work. Doesnt a faster double buffed scar just destroy them

[swift mango]

Quiry doesn't need s3 to be helpful. Her skill 1+2 is off burst buff to Cindy.

And nerf p1-2 attack

Very strong in the right team

[glad meteor]

Yes, i see them as offenive tools that help beat noah biscuit sanis and helps save meta units for other teams

[glad meteor]

True, I want to see stronk healing

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jam-stonks-stonk-jam-head-shot-hans-gif-21157324

[swift mango]

Cindy+Biscuit stall could use that little buff+Debuff from off burst Quiry to help Cindy face tank a 2buff max invested Scarlet.

[glad meteor]

Double buff scar scary

Thankfully I’m reaching higher sync. So doll/gear base stats are becoming weaker

[swift mango]

In the early days of Cindy released a guy came here with an enemy using off burst Quiry to buff Cindy. And no one solved that team for him... I still think that's genius.

[glad meteor]

interesting

[quick lake]

Scar investment issue

[swift mango]

I mean look at this skits. It would be around half a Noise burst or more for Cindy.

Quiry just need to exists.