#pvp-arena
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yea when im not busy. 
im not really widely knowledgable at pvp but my ill try my best.
any thoughts on how rrh will perform in pvp?

or is mg just doodoo in pvp
tbh idk but mg on pvp is mehh
gotcha, windup is too long i suppose
Pretty meh at this point. Only viable team for her now is Blanc + Rapi, which is slow and expensive
only MG unit that is worth using in pvp is either rosanna or crown
but the thing is rosanna is expensive to build
is it? dayum
decent sustained dmg that hits everyone throughout full burst and cannot be taunted
owshii
but needs high rapipi invest
Pvp midpi
and probably the strongest st pressure in pvp once she bursts
which isn't actually that useful, but can blow up jackal links if p1 is linked
but event if i have built rapipi, idk where to use her and my pvp arena is somehow dying
she's only used in atk

@quick lake what can you suggest rookie arena team?
indom rapipi prob completely annihilates god comp
which relies on biscuit-less linked units sharing dmg to sustain
what rapipi team ill use to defeat this team?
oh that's one of the setups I wanna see tested
Rapi BlancJackal 
not optimal sanis team setup, but eh, close enough
ill try
that setup should be fine, do it like that
the slower your rapipi the better odds you got I think
record
Depends if Rapi has decent investments though. Probably need 10/7/10. Maybe some Atk% OLs too
yeah also need to know your invest
s1 prob doesn't need to be that high
burst just needs high enough to hit all 5
wtf is this error?
Probably Blanc + Emilia 2-2.5RL team 
try doing some pve stuff then trying again ig, if you got more attempts
really need a vid recording
i mean i did noah-biscuit-emilia-redhood-crown and wins fight but its rng since my emilia is bad
Maybe Cindy team
Rookie is for fun anyways
Can hit some rookie team, then come back. Generall worked for me
@coarse lake @quick lake check this out
his noah is too stronk man
low dps, so noah got invuln super late
and my rapipi is too weak lmao

yeah jackal sanis with noise prio might counter rapipi harder than normal
i still have 5 rookie attempts
unless... you got a sub dps that can get noah to invuln fast
Honestly quite alot of issues with Rapi. Noah and/or Biscuit makes it very hard for Rapi to kill after stalling
only 22% ele is quite yikes
If both Rapipi vs Noah teams burst at the same time, there's only 10second - 3second = 7seconds left for Rapi's attachment. Thats like 3 bomb explosions 
killed noise 1 bomb early this time, had enough time to focus on noah, since she was so tanky, managed to bomb her before invuln, so 1 shot there
hmm
might be hope yet, if you can deal enough to noise, and kill sanis, your blanc and jackal should help with stall
if you had more ele, biscuit would be dead too, so even if you didn't 1 tap noah, skipping 2nd invuln, biscuit wouldn't be alive for it anyway
ill try to do this def for now
that def loses to scar jack
Too low. Anything 3rl and lower these days will be Cindy without exception.
Ofc they only have one cindy but this team ded to Scarlet too
Opponent 2RL vs our team 3RL
(feed included)
yeah that rapipi setup is by default like 4rl anyway
Too RNG for my liking. Even being 1 full RL slower, u still cant reliably get past Noah/Biscuit 
although
bursting 1rl late helped here, I think noah only managed to block 1 bomb
biscuit took 4 bomb hits during full burst
if same speed it would be 3
i know but my rookie arena people are dumb to know burst gen
U lose to all faster scar and cindy comps 
yeah it's still quite rng rn, at best it's a case by case basis based on sanis setup and rapi invest, but even there, there's a good amount of rng
although if you got enough dmg to make noah and jackal both get invuln fairly quick, you got better odds than back to back invuln noah
also since you kill sanis asap, so if using biscuit, you got your defenders to help stall
And we’re using RH b1, so already very slow
ill try to attack this guy in spvp
lets see whats gonna happen
I can only see Redpipi viable in def if you used her with Rossanna
HMMM 
hmm maybe
Rosanna Blanc Rapi 
Or if you are in lower level bracket. Or if Rapipi being your highest CP, 10% above other dps
you probably win against that setup since they don't have biscuit, but will be interesting to watch
The break point is if Blanc + 4atkOL Rapi can reliably kill enemies in 3-4 bombs
should be a close enough example of god comp, should get melted
with 4x ele it's probably doable
lmao nvm rapipi died but won 3/3 so goofy
4rl too slow and they targetted p1+p2 without jackal link
and thats my mistak
i know know im dumdum
see? someone already made the mistake of turning rapi into b1

pretty sure your rapi was b1 there, do you remember if rapi or rh bursted as b3
rh bursted b3
yep, what I thought was gonna happen already happened 
yeah need to use rumani there if you don't wanna link, but jackal is just safer

ow shi you mentioned rumani
i need to pull for selector to grab rumani
Rapipi will probably be good… if 4ele 4atk 2-3ammo 
Rapi+Noah+Crown+Rossanna+Jackal
hmm... that team doesn't have much sustain
Crown..? 

if they live through rosa snipe and got biscuit to deal with rapipi st dmg, they win
Rapi served as clean up after Rossanna. You can't lose if they all dead
Still feels copium to me 
Need 2-3 s1 from Jackal. So could be counter if enemies squint hard enough.
Before attacking
2rl noah probably just wins, so not that diff from a scar setup
3-4 jackal s1 plus some CS on Noah and Jackal could get to 2.5rl.
eh just feels like a worst variant of the scar b2 rosa
same counters, but scar b3 threat is at least instant
So long as a team has 2 clip RL there are room for improvement
Well, also instant stopped by Noah
I mean yeah...
same counters
still better off using blanc instead of noah crown imo
blanc centi will be faster too
and you got more time for rapipi to potentially clutch up
esp since their noah is probably a full rl faster, so you got a chance
Redpipi counter are more Noise, rapunzel tbh. Not much Noah. Which more about biscuit
noah hurts rapipi sustained dmg a lot, but can't solo carry yeah
neither can noise
main counter is just biscuit really
if built enough, double buff indom rapipi prob needs noah biscuit + healer to deal with
which makes the team weak to scar jack
so realistically you can only do 1 buffer rapipi for def
which makes it even easier to deal with
Or just 2RL Xmaiden
yeah that too, being even slower than scar
yeah not seeing a setup where she gets out of the niche attacking team tier
using noah biscuit instead of blanc on her is a huge waste, and she needs all the buffs she can get to begin with
so she doesn't have much comp flexibility
ig she's a passable replacement for scar in a blanc rosa setup.... if you somehow don't have scar
or just use a different b3 nuker, we got plenty
the one thing she is good at is killing linked units during full burst, she doesn't really share that role with anyone really
if xmaiden nuke gets blocked she isn't killing linked fast
but that niche isn't that important either
She is best B1 is the game for PvE right now so her CP would be off the roof comparing to other Nikke. That's a big reason to squeeze her into arena.
yeah
hmm
are there any teams that counter rapi/blanc/rosa/anis/jackal that doesn't counter scar in the same setup 
rapi variant blows up god comp, so that's a bonus, but no one except me runs that these days
2rl noah biscuit noise/rapu should win against rapi, and also probably scar, but haven't tested
And which B3 you gonna use in that team to reach 2rl? Emi? 
probably fine, got time to kill
idk how that fares against Rapipi with lots of elements lines.
a blanc biscuit setup that relies on either facetanking rosa snipe or with sac or all defender.... should win against rapipi but lose against scar
problem with rapipi being the aoe is too slow to come out
Probably Rapipi is only really a threat in a whale hand.
4 line AtK
4 like Ele
3 line Ammo
Core +7
she needs to be able to kill a full team with just aoe with 1 buffer to be more useful, esp as def
Yeah ^ Rapi needs to be mega invested to work
on atk, you prob need 2 buffer anyway to deal with whatever sustain they got
but honestly.... eh ig she's a cope replacement for scar in a blanc rosa setup
that's more can be said for the other b3 nukers we got with no followup
rapipi aoe is basically like scar counter anyway
actually better when dealing with rls
as for other def teams....
noah/biscuit/rapi/rh/rumani is passable ig
Maybe they would release a Blanc in the future that buff attack speed instead of dmg and be clip RL.
That's when Rapi will have some big business
No meta B1 in pvp either 
best we can hope for is 60 fps in champs
Attack speed buffer, only work with Redpi
that'll actually make rapipi insane

no amount of heals making your team live through full burst
I wouldnt mind another Moran/Noise equivalent 
this could be doable to deal with enemy noah biscuit bscar setups
but well... you can already do it with emi or sanis in that slot
so rapipi isn't doing anything special
well... ig a half decent rapipi comp should at least force a biscuit use
which is pretty good ig
likely noah biscuit use if the rapipi is built enough
which makes her... slightly better than scar in this specific area
tbh
I'm not averse to testing it out in my own def
rapi/blanc/rosa/anis/jackal
esp once my rapi cp gets a lot higher, that team's cp is quite low rn with scar
I'm sure i'm missing something, gotta be a team that beats rapipi variant that doesn't beat scar variant
oh ig there's one... maybe
a sg setup to try to kill p1 asap, but it'll be a race between jackal link and killing rapipi
sg + rosa should do it actually
since rapipi doesn't have any way to deal with sgs
mirror setup with scar should win against rapipi
if enough counter dmg
but prob depends on scar invest
1-2rl slower Blanc/Cindy/biscuit/b1/flex no attacker setup should also win
Neutralizes Rosa snipe, the rapi only gets 1 bomb off before the team indoms and wipes rapi team, winning with slower indom
Scar doesn't let you do that if scar can 1 shot your non invuln units
Yeah still kinda cope
But the closest to a scar replacement we have in a Blanc rosa setup
So honestly.... Not that bad
Just overall a mid pvp unit
Going by prydwen tierlist... I'd say S tier, maybe can argue for SS, but that's a stretch until I see a 1 buffer rapi do enough dmg
Preliminary pvp rank was ~A
I agree. Just let Rapi be good in PvE
let her sleep in pvp
Snake mentioned they might do a revamp once CA is out
She's definitely better than the bozos in A
Better than several in S
Worst than almost everyone in SS, can make some arguments
Hmm I think prydwen's pvp tierlist is mostly for attacking pvp
Not necessarily defence
Then she's definitely S, borderline SS
Rapipi is weakest in def, hard to do 2 buffer without getting nuked
She's better than Eva rei imo
Hello Chefs
I need some help in cooking for SPA/rookie arena 
Also I got the SSR selector, should I use it for Biscuit/DKW/Rouge?
used mine on biscuit as i didnt have a b2 pvp unit besides SR anis
T1: Noise Tia Bay Anis RH
T2: SBS BunnySoda Blanc xMaiden Jackal
T3: Auto the rest
Dkw/Rouge is for pve/Raids
Biscuit/Rumani/Centi for pvp
Ty Chef, and which team for rookie?
Noise SBS Blanc xMaiden Jackal
Yeah was wondering, if I should get Biscuit for pvp or diversify for solo raid
Hmm your call. For pvp at least, u're also in need of burst gen units like Centi/Rumani. Dkw works in campaign, but liter works fine as well. Rouge for the most part, is purely a SR character paired with Cindy. So if u dont have cindy, no point getting rouge
Ur campaign team as it is, is alr really solid. Nothing in particular u need for the selector. Advised to just hoard for now @violet prism 
Ok brother
hi
what is this website ?
Need revamp my pvp team, any suggestions for SP and rookie?
guess you could promote this team to 4RL with viper, if the CP loss big tho leave as is
as for rosanna, wait till you unlock more batteries
Are they fix CIndy bug already?
which one
scarlet grave rh emilia jackal
centi blanc cind rumani alice
noah biscuit rapu sbs laplace+
cubes:
quantum mandatory to hit 3RL on centi and rumani in T2
quantum on jackal
vigor on blanc, rapu, biscuit
temperance on noah
rest of the nikke can have highest available cube
notes: once you invest more on noise and s.anis, you could improve T3 with more sustain and more backline damage, without penalizing CP
notes2: we assuming laplace is treasured, let me know if she isn't we can put xmaiden instead
The one where Cindy's burst deal very small damage in PvP
seems like it's not
they still didn't fix the arena bug
so
thanks, laplace is treasured and well build
F for Cindy then
https://nikke-deck.web.app/
Just a simple deck builder
Basically the web version of the sheets
Rookie Arena?
Scarlet Blanc RH Centi Jackal
Should I upgrade my campaign OL from 0/5 to 4/5 - 5/5 to mald and push vs MC ch 32 instead of saving for pvp OL? I'm currently top 3 without any OL in pvp only units. I could gain enough stats (like 10% CP more, 300k -> 330k+) if I dump in campaign OL to widen the gap further, rest of bracket is like 2 chapters behind me
I stopped leveling gear post overload long ago 
Overload itself is more important than extra levels with 200 CP increase
I know that OL boosting to 5 is a huge resource drain, I just want to min max a bit because of higher outpost lvl. I don't want to brick my pvp. I gain like 1500 CP per gear piece and could clear MC faster this way. Otherwise I'd have to wait a lot longer for sync
So you'd rather OL pvp units and reroll OL stats?
let's pray for good kraken drops then 
Could someone please help me update my sp defense teams, ty
I wouldn't even bother with kraken for a while.
But that's just me maybe.
I find it more important to hard focus getting the gear for everyone first then collecting stones, since you get a fair bit of stones just overtime anyways.
If anyone has a take on this I'd like to hear it though in case I'm wrong :p
emilia blanc rapu alice jackal
centi rumani cind anis b.soda
noah noise biscuit s.anis laplace+
cubes:
quantum on jackal, centi, rumani, anis
vigor on rapu, blanc, biscuit, noise
temperance on noah
resil. on s.anis, s.anis must also be lvl 9 on her burst skill, else replace her with SBS
notes: wishlist scarlet
quick question, i m old player and have all pvp unit ( literally ). i never touch the pvp side, can anyone suggest a good team ? for sp arena
post your box in order of strength and we can take it from there
wait
Hey guys, I need some advice for sp arena; I’ve been getting kicked off Diamond 1 this season. Any help is appreciated!
My current teams:
Jackal-Alice-Noir-Maid Priv-Noah
Liter-Naga-SBS-Dorothy-Cinderella
Scarlet-Blanc-Centi-Anis-Rumani
Here’s my current nikkes in synch device:
Anyone still having issue with special arena? I have this guy , everytime i try to attack him, will always have error saying discontinue from server, i tried log out and restart the game but still same.
Yep, I have that issue as well; mostly happens in rookie arena though
tk u so much
recently i got noah as well
gonna take a look 
is laplace treasured btw?
hmm ok hold on that for now, let's see
can you put rumani in synchro?
yeah
oki, we can enable a cindy team aswell this way
got selector as well for rouge if necessary
scarlet grave rh anis jackal
blanc sbs rumani biscuit xmaiden
centi pepper cind emilia noah
cubes:
quantum on anis, jackal, rumani, centi
vigor blanc, biscuit, pepper
temperance on noah
any other nikke put highest available cube
post your 3 teams just to doublecheck CP as we can balance them out in case
sure, not in pos to open the game, ill update later. thank you
when you said anis you mean s anis right ?
Please help me build my sp arena teams
When we say Anis we meant Purple Anis 
Summer Anis is ASS ngl
Blood, my Moran is no longer holding up in defense 
pls help guys ;-;

Max core max skill 3 lines high level her and you should be fine.
Of course 
Ok, let me see
*loading
Ok, it loaded the left one
First of all, if you want to attack someone before update you better show the target ok?
okay ✍️
There's no jackal, Blanc or Noah
it's impressive that you can stay on D1 at all
Let's see what can be done... Probably 2 sacc teams
i stil have the ssr selector, i can pick one of em rn
nope, anis, because battery reasons
Any standard vouchers left?
Get jack
Wishlist Noah and blanc
Blanc is equally important 
i think i used it for early 160 wall break
Well, that's good use for those
Less
still importnat af
Indom is important 
not denying that she is less important,but allows the dps like sbs or rh have value
Could Bay, no Jackal and he won't be able to burst
especially when whe only have 4 defensive units in the game,and 1 of them is b1,and biscuit used with noah 90% of all times
Also wishlist centi
bay is just 1 time nuke block that doesn't work against some nukes too
Noise+Bay+biscuit/rapu is fine cope for both Noah and blanc
The other 5% is Blanc Biscuit 
sbs victim
But ofc nothing replace them
Just Moran/Tia biscuit it
i see thanks
my c6 blanc is fat enough to survive at 3rl,so
my noise still limit break 0
Blanc is only lb2 
YOU'RE CHEATING 
how
:chime cry:
How you mald for 27 hard mode
i'm only ch 24
You could hold on to selector too for when you get the other units first
Ok
moran
my moran is lb0 no OL no doll 
theres a good chance 1 hit takes her past 20% and she dies
7/10/10 moran
111 

So did you pop ur selector or still hold on to it?
If you still hold on to it, wishlist Noah, Biscuit, Blanc, Centi, Jackal first.
When you get 3 of them, grab the missing one from selector.
@rustic sandal ngl you lack several key units, I only managed to build one decent team
The best for now is the first one + 2 auto teams but you need to wishlist more PVP units
One selector is not enough to solve this :deadge:
the b0 teams 
You said it yourself 

ty guys sm for answerin ;-; i think ill watch some indepth video bout pvp stuff
hell yeah ty
So did you pop ur selector or not. Answer. I could make you better team than what Echo just offered

You'll use low CP units for that, no doubt about it 
Auto team is for high CP. One is enough. You don't auto team 2 teams
If he drops below D3 it will be your fault 
absolute state of cooking
This is what happens when you use low CP
I couldn't use Anis for the same reason 
Its ur turn now echocho san
you didn't 4 ol your anis?
You cant escape this time
No
I need to craft my new defense

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 
any kind soul can help me in suggesting comp against my opponent please? 
I mean for the person who wanted cooking
et him bois
and you
Dw just done Jackal
we're talking about you rn
Centi and noah left
They're important to pad 
Specially Centi for jackal teams

blanc/cindy/biscuit/bsoda/rumani worked for me,also try scar/blanc/rh/centi/jackal
Huh : Blanc stare:
You could swap it back if it didn't work.
How did it go?
Show your battle log
Not too stronky
||cppad deez nuts on you face||
Losing top 20 below
Diamond 8 is top 80. Off the map
tf your huh is for,he asked how to beat blanc emi,i answered
Interesting 
If remember told you to check CP. If CP too low then just swap back to the old def.

does she has 30% atk?
Cp not that slow tbh
Quite decent
30% ||def
||
Ig Ein still too weak rn

secret cook
Hmm, you could swap back to the old def first. Attack the ch10 to grab his spot and see from there.
it worked great, thanks!
u welcome
Cindy P2? 
The 4 extra attack give people lots of hell
Its fine ill just let them be
it's blanc emi ye bufoon,it's actually worth there
They will suffering when im done OLing ein centi Noah
the whole idea is to drop cindy to 50% during emi's charge,so she would eat the nuke undamaged

Sometime you use Cindy p1-2 to attack but attack only. Defense it's too much to plan around.
echo is learning

funny thing was, emilia died to cinderella nuke before she could even burst 
How was ur rapi Alexa
painpeko
#questions message
also did anyone have the bug where i lose sometimes if i skipped the battle, but never loses if didn't skip?
8/8/8 for now
Emilia not get indom ? 
Nice def + charge dmg + charge spd
Yes

i bursted faster i think that's why
seems like i know why
in the end their RH got the indom instead
lmao
i have this issue too
i checked the recording, actually biscuit wasn't linked
oh well,it do be like that
but it was because i bursted faster lmao
So cook Thien his 3teams.
It's better to have 2+ def line up to swap around. If your cook not getting attacked, the better.
the loss bug?
the biscuit one
Dw he will do that
I'm c9
I'm getting attacked

@limber rampart
I would need to know your units stats for better Blanc planning but I will just do the easiest routine first.
Liter+SBS+Blanc+Crown+Jackal (make sure SBS having lower HP than Liter and Jackal. And Liter has higher ATK than Blanc and Crown)
Centi+Anis+Rumani+Cindy+XMaiden
Auto team.
Equip quantum on Jackal if you have it.
Could replace crown with Noir as well. Make sure Liter has higher attack though. Should be normal looking at your line up.
Caishen
cook me a new defense
Please 
seems a very s.anisable lineup
i already solved the issue
I need something new
and assumaing s.anis will survive double buff emi
chad
Cindy P2
is crazy
aye, i like me 1RL 
but you're MA and i'm on sabatical
that's p1 cindy
Damn 
oh you're right 
what're you using now? 
Need p1 for that
Wait guys
when me ma
What about
Cindy P1/X Mica against Emi ICBM ?
Cindy+Noise+Centi+Anis+Jackal
Auto team
Auto team
alex as MA would be interesting in itself, either total chaos or people start min scoring campaign 
are you trying to shove your xmica at least somewhere
and a dose of bullying other ma's
@keen vapor
mica theorycrafting 
i only see her in champ arena
budget b1 buffer for SP arena afterall 
2rl mpriv nuke via anis sac
Then build her first
My usual Scar jack, Noah biscuit SBS and Moran Crown Alice teams
I'm out of mats
Open your box.
alice?...
Need help building my PvP team
don't let him cook
what kind of monstrosities are you building over 
even my crown team works better
i showed you in dm
why did you start to build xmica when CA isnt out yet and you're f2p?
Is for padding
since Cindy didn't got to top5 CP
Rapi is eating my mats :Liter sip: 9/7/8
SBS+Redpipi+Anis+Pepper+Maxwell
Resort your team by this order
uuuuh
F2P btw 
you've tiny amount of nikke, just go CP pad for rookie early, or this if it doesn't kill your CP
sbs pepper alice anis noir
show your skins
11
i'll let it slide
Team is 3 RL I swear
nono, echo is not f2p, i only got 8 skins as f2p, echo is a fake f2p!!
i have 11 as a f2p too tho
you guys are less f2p than i am 
So, someone missed Emilia right? 
are you planning to give me yours? sure 
you're just a youngling
I give you one star from my Emilia, you give me 1 star from your Noah .
at least you can still obtain noah 
Then we no longer bricked
meanwhile i gotta survive on pure copium for a re;zero rerun in maybe 1 year and a half 
let's hope CA doesn't release before then
wow
To be frank you could def much better with missing Noah than missing Emilia
Should have problem at all
Where's our treasures/daily streamlined 
can CA be done without emilia tho? 🤔
far less defensive capabilities,but doable,i literally use her as a burst gen there
there's hope of sort then 
Yeah, many peeps without Emilia. They have to do it anyway
But CA may be partially resolved next year. So good luck waiting.
Partially Resolved

you building rapi for pve?
maybe
Let's say your Redpi is partially resolved 

will i still get the free attempts tomorrow if i don't use the chips?
Yes.
Those chips have been here for some days already
It's permanent. I only have 1 chip though. Used the rest when I tested my team the other days
yeah but i wasn't sure if i could save them for later, and today is the last day for claiming so i had to claim
then i found out about the daily attempts not being increased, which is good
could use some of them in the future to take back 1st place :3
What was your end season ranking result last SpA season?
That was a closed one huh. 
indeed
Can you get to 361 if you opened all your boxes?
350
And you guys started around same time.
325
Current 341

He's whaling 
you were 325 peak and I was 341 back then?
I was 325 last season
I'm 341 current season
:susge:

Did you beat map 20 boss?
Oh good luck then
do you know your campaign progress back in 7/20
6 8 10 and d1 
I was about 278 back then, you were 230, with 4.7k 1 hour boxes
Did you just use 3 hits?
No they attack me
if assuming you were 60/hr back then, or less + some other core boxes, that's still a 20 gap

You buy event stamina since the beginning 
how much campaign progress is typical of a sync 230
did you start doing it at that point though, if so it wouldn't matter
Chapter 26
Chapter 10h boss walled?
This is a question no one knows.
I started buying event attempts at February
then it won't matter for this comparison, that was in july
But you started earlier?
Buying attempts, how many weeks before anni you started account
How earlier
eh that's like 57/hr
add in a few non 1-hr boxes, should be about 60/hr
If you play the same then you will gain more core at higher level. He just can't catch up.
eh.... the core dust gap didn't increase since july really
350 is your peak rn with opening all boxes yeah?
He could catch up if he was lucky with reroll dispatch or spend. Or others in his bracket slacking on those.
Also remember
My pushing was wrecked from the start, no liter/Blanc/Naga
what I'm trying to get at is whether his core dust rate slowed since july when we last checked
If I include government selectors: 358
I was clearing up to mother whale without literally any of them.
Never bricked in campaign vs other in my bracket
I remember cleared up to that with just Scarlet as my pilgrim. And to ch17 without any pligrim

then the gap significantly decreased.... if we consider you only had that 4.7k 1 hour boxes back then
honestly need more data back then of your peak
Right now you could clear up to ch17 in one week. If you rerolled for Redpipi or any strong dps pligrim
The early rush isn't hard, it just need no life-ing and good use of resources.
Given to you by the game.
Including tower, lost sector, academy, borrowing units, passing hard targets to beat later .etc
The placement in SP.A would be half decided by just how hard you pushed early on. The rest up to luck with pulls + competitors and how invested you are in the mode.
hmm dug through your messages around that time, you never said what sync you would be if you used up all your boxes
so can't make a comparison
What date again?
Open your uneeded battle data boxes as well and count again. You may be slacking because of complacence thou.
July?
end of july
my bottleneck is core dust
Unneeded Battle data box can be exchanged to core dust
I did manage to grab my sync in late august, will try searching your messages there
yes I did a lot of that
how much were the whales at during this time
Whales could be any level they wanted
Just whale more
Let's see, I was 241 
pretty weak ngl

any idea if you only had 3.6k 1 hour boxes at this point, or had others too
like, I just need to find a point where you say how much you would be if you opened all your core cases, not just how many 1 hours you had at the time
I'm guessing, I forgot when I reached 5k
But I did
you had other boxes at that point?

did you use up your non-1 hour boxes first or did you use the 1 hours before the others
at that point you were opening a lot of boxes, any idea which ones you opened first
I've never touched any cases higher than the 2hr type, or selectors

All cases (except selectors)
351
in both july and aug you were 20 behind (same as now), but with only your 1 hours
if we assume we pushed campaign at approx the same rate since then.... eh...
I also converted a lot of exp to core dust, at least 5 lvls worth
Sometimes I counted 2 hr ones 
But the 1hr definitively reached 5k 
357 in core dust, no more
Count it, production is 71
how many per hour is your outpost making
Well, plus some days of OD is 358
14-15 lvls worth
Oh right, battle data...
have you opened your non-1hours or selectors since july
did you screenshot your boxes around july
I've always did 1hr the most, a couple of times some 2hr ones (this time way more than some)
July is when I started Valhalla 

yeah no conclusion can be made, but I'm decently sure you didn't lose much progress since july anyway
when did you start
End of October, last days of ACPU Freeze
lemme see if I can find your progress a few months in to compare, to eliminate bad start issues
bc I tracked my progress for a few months
I assume you didn't start hoarding until later
I used some challenge selectors (16 core dust) for a bit of battle data a few times, but even back then I hoarded those until reaching level 200 and claimed for core dust
I was... at 166 on 1/11, 1 month in 
ok so you're already behind there due to bad start
I used Centi B2 cuz no better option
February got me Rem for MW
oh damn yeah your team was trash even in feb
I managed to get Smol White last copy on last day
Ultra was hard for me
I'm trying to see if my PVP Team needs any help. I'm currently using Noise\Blanc\Maiden: Ice Rose\SBS\Sugar (T1) Rumani\Anis\Alice\Maid Privaty\LaPlace (T2) and Quency Escape Queen\Tia\Viper\Naga\Drake (T3)
I also got RH that very same day
I hoarded advanced vouchers from anni
hoping for getting her on a free pull
It only took me 100 vouchers 
I was born a hoarder 
you're 209 on 4/16, I'm 233 on 4/14
and that was the last monthly update I made regarding sync
were you hoarding back in april
210 on 4/18 

Is when I got union 
you had... decent team back then, just missing good b2
I was running tiga back then, so had adv
Crown got me like 3 chapter push 
eh.... I'm not seeing any massive progression loss from hoarding
if there were any, it's marginal
Cheating
You cheated 
:chime cry:
I don't think you were ever that far behind me in sync
You'll see, I got into the game for one thing only, an SNO Collab, so I decided to save resources when finally come into the game
That's why is started as hoarder 
unless someone can prove that there's progression gain from hoarding... you're still just gimping yourself pvp

assuming with both strats you push campaign as far as you can first
Yes, I always were doing my best 
You have silver mileage tickets? Limit break selector?
Not yet
well ig what you're doing is fine assuming these 2 things are true:
- you'll eventually open all your boxes
- you're ok with having a permanent handicap in pvp
Reset level for Diesel, Emma and N102 btw
Working both to get Pepper so I can break 160 Wall
Limit break selector is a thing you get for leveling to level 141 for the first time
Ig you already used it
Yeah, used that one long time ago
How many silver mileage
51
You use the daily 3 pulls from friendship banner?
Not as often as I should
Well, is fine if you collect the points only, is very hard to get exactly pepper from there anyways 
Yeah, that's the current plan is milage Pepper asap and use new years selector for Rouge probably
RNG decided Pepper was my way out. I pulled 2/3 of her trying to get Rapi:RH 
I also got Pepper on a Red Hood banner 
I wonder how the eva banners are going to work
Since this is the first time a collab has had a part 2/rerun correct?
@vale forum third team as auto
OK. Cool. Thanks
I wonder if GraveP1 would be better option 
I assume Team 1 will be fine for Rookie too?
Yes, is the first time
I'd like to assume regular asuka and rei will be back with mari to... since they are giving mari another skin
Prob
I think....
It all depends on tankyness
can someone tell me my rl for my new teams 
Noah team is 4 RL
The others seems 3RL
SBS burst way better than Alice 
im trying to use more of my invested units for cp boost anyone else i could try for 3rl
5678io'
you can run a 3RL cindy or a slower but more padded 4RL
(cubes are irrelevant, just forgot to clear)
if noise and noah together, noise should've less CS% than noah if in p1, viceversa the opposite
ok ill try the 3rl one i do lose a bit of cp ill just have to finsh ol noir
something was working here tho i wish i had replay
Finally I took the bait and the end result was another blue ball... Glad it was just blue ticket

Now to save for a month fr


It was a good bait tbh.
Lucky with dispatch, lucky with the gem balls, lucky with the mold, then nothing when I actually use the pulls.
Can anyone guild me how to fight these team comps?
Team 1 ( 3 RL Gen but sacrifice anis for burst filling >20%)
Team 2 ( 2.5 RL )
Team 3 ( 3 RL)
hmm team 1 and 3 seems winnable 
team 1 noah scarlet counter team
team 3 not dps on thsi team possible could use a summer anis rh team here
rosana dispel noah's shield 😦
team 3 I can nuke it with faster burst gen
The problem is I don't know how to take down remaining teams
@keen vapor wake up we got a customer 
Finally I can flex this alongside the rest of the top 10 of my bracket who all also have this.
The 10 dubs now have meaning.

For the frames what are all the things that count? I know Hard mode/tribe/manufacturer towers all do but does PvP also count?
Nope
Anyone got a good team for rookie arena and SP Arena?
I lost all my free attempts 😦
did you lose to team 1
I also try jack , scarlet 2 RL but when the opponent’s anis died it fill up the burst too
Unfortunately no :(((
What’s your current team 3
Well not that late
It’s depend
I usually nuke with cindy or scarlet
noah naga viper s.anis noise
centi pepper cind noir tia
xmaiden asuka biscuit sugar liter
cubes:
quantum on centi
vigor on noise, biscuit, pepper
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis, ideally have her burst skill lvl9, else replace her with alice
notes: wishlist scarlet, jackal, rumani asap
rookie team:
noah centi cind pepper alice
team 1(vs scar rosa): jackal/noah/sbs/scar/centi,team3(noise emi):blanc/s.anis/rapunzel/biscuit/emilia or rumani,if team 1 doesn't work,try the same team against team 2
What I mean is they run 3 RL team but actually is 2.5 or 2 RL since anis dead will fill > 20% burst with rosana skill 2
Jackal an scar didn’t work last time 😦
Same with s anis team
Due to slower burst gen
And somehow rosana can dispel shield @_@
would it be a good idea to exchange centi for blanc for cp padding? (rookie arena)
team 1 is 2rl, and jackal at p1, so she will get fed, team3 try noise instead of blanc, thus you will have noise max hp buff+ biscuit's lifesteal
Well, no one could defeat that player since september beside me xD
I have alread tried it but i failed
I’m thinking something like this. But try alex cook. 
Noise taunt prio. Noah more CS
My noah shield will get dispel
And their team 1 is 2.5 - 2 RL with filling burt @_@
Not yet, I don’t know which cube will help me in this case
Resil, vigor, temper I think
The anis death is a hugh thing
true, sbs might kill anis if high ele
Ein will target p5
Anis death casue filling up the burst
So they can burst faster
At that time somehow their rosan will dispel my noah shield
I think noise noah + cubes give enough buffs to where it’s too later for noah invul to dispel
Main problem i see is anis getting extra gen from noah taunt due to cs. RLs alone shouldn’t be strong enough to kill anis in 2rl
Or I think rosana will dispel the newest buff ??
Ros dispels 5 buffs at 1-1.5 rl. First 5 buffs that activate I think 
Dispels personal buffs, cubes, jackal link, then other buffs
I run the jackal and scarlet 2 RL but the enemy can burst the same time with my team and dispel noah shield
If burst at same time. Rosanna b1 can kill attacker before noah shield lands
Can jackal prevent it ???
Jackal can’t. Noah can. My plan was to weaken p1 pressure by using supporter defender rls so anis lives and they’re not 2RL
She only dispels once at 1rl mark
Cindy p1 to force 1RL Noah.
the goofiest Noah biscu counter ever
I rerolled great stats but not % for Alice, lost so much CP even though the attributes are much better 
So should i go fast with sp and defender or just 3Rl
If you go 3rl you gotta tank the rosanna burst depending on what dps you use. The team I suggested reaches 2rl with feed.
But want noise to have taunt prio

Which team was that the picture or the vid?
The ein team, redhood probably better than ein though
Do you remember full sanis team that lost to emi 
Oh will the rosana burts kill my atker??
It should be blocked by noah, unless you’re rl’s are so strong they kill anis in 2RL time 
Yeah but sadly I don’t have enough rs to build moran :((
Noise, noah anis and jack with full overload gear with max level won’t have enogh damage right :>
it shouldn’t, though I’m worried about the suggested team 2
Don’t run those teams i suggested
I made it so 1/3 guranteed wins
2 is made with remaining units
Reduce damage and invce are OP ngl
Team 2 i will run the remaining ones
Since no residual bug. I run an extra team to test. Sometimes it works
Lifesteal won’t be needed if the enemy were lifeless xD
Since their team 2 is 2 RL and having noah shield with cindy nuke. I think the best scenario will be a skip
Just do a 2rl Noah+SBS.
Btw thank you and I will wait for my daily tries to restart
What teams you going to run?
Until you got scarjackl that is
Just imagine scar doesn’t exist 
Until you got Cindy'ed that is
Imagine no blanc buffer and max sr doll + moran burst + temper cube + no crit 
is your opponent running comp something like this?
Nosie noah anis rh/sbs/ein jackie for team 1
And team 3 is gonna be between nuke with cindy or sanis invincible
Well I nuke team 3 with cindi so only bay alive xD
I still got rumani centi maiden ice so 150 3 rl gonna be fine
Is arena down now or something? I keep getting booted back to main lobby or "you're in battle, wait til it's over"
Alright weird that happned like 5 times across 30 minutes but it works normally now
Whats thr best pvp team??
there is no best pvp team
The best Arena team is the team that has 1.65 times higher CP than your opponent
Oh. Whats ur recommendation?
post your box, then people can recommend teams for you
on a very general note you could build these 3
Alr ill do it later sch starting for me soon
Js realized sch starts in 30 mins
is it worth exchanging blanc for centi if it gives more cp? (rookie arena)
At that point just auto team
what do you mean?
Hit the auto button in your team building screen and save.
OH you meant it literally lmao. okay thanks!
Remember to update your Defense team in rookie. It's what others see when they attack you
that's not your box, with box we mean your nikke roster ordered by strength
this is what happens when i auto
Full thing?
I don't remember but do you have Jackal?
not yet
she's wishlisted
Which Nikke did you get with the selector? Or you are saving it?
i got tia since i had Naga and im trying to get as far in campaign as i can
No Rouge/Noir+Blanc, no Crown, No Grave?
i have rouge/blanc/noir, but sbs is my only pilgrim
Hmmm unless you are good at controlling and play on PC, Naga+Tia may not be as good as their tier for you.
Like pvp wise?
Campaign wise. Therr is no control in Arena
oh I misread. then oof 
Wish list both Crown+Grave and hope the best.
ty for the tips 
If you mainly play campaign on auto and barely control Rouge+Blanc would be the better duo.
For this rookie team in particular hmm
SBS+Xmaiden+Blanc+Liter+Centi would do.
Other wise, just move swap XMaiden and Liter.
ty!
Help with building sp arena team
post your box, ordered by strength, and we can help you build them
yes full thing would've been better, but as it's rookie we might already see enough nikke, go with:
privaty crown rh rumani jackal
sbs blanc rh xmaiden jackal
noah biscuit emilia rrh maxwell
centi naga cind rumani alice
cubes:
quantum on jackal, centi, rumani
vigor on blanc, biscuit (xmaiden aswell if her HP is lower than sbs)
temperance on noah
any other nikke use any high level cube available
This is just a flex atp 🤧
????
it's not, we ask for the box for:
A) investiment
B) nikke selection
Thank u, been struggling in sp arena
Holy moly guacamole
If anyone could help with a rookie arena and sp arena teams I'd appreciate the help 🙏
is laplace, yuni, or flora part of pvp meta or strong in pvp
treasure laplace yes, yuni no, flora no
is treasure laplace a nikke name
sbs, centi, biscuit and xmaiden out of sync 
can you get centi and biscuit in sync? 
you're kinda gonna need them for pvp
Laplace is one of few nikkes where if you take their collection doll to sr15 and farm laplace materials from dispatch she get’s a buff to her kit
how do you specifically farm laplace materials from dispatch
i forgot how you unlock it. But you can choose who to special dispatch and you can pick laplace. It’s in the regular dispatch location
Seems someone made a guide. May help
The treasure is also called special favourite item
grave liter cind anis noir
noah centi ein rh tia
blanc alice pepper biscuit laplace+
cubes:
quantum on anis, centi
vigor on pepper, biscuit, blanc
notes:
wishlist scarlet, jackal, noise
synchro centi, biscuit, xmaiden, sbs
build asap: centi and biscuit, else they tank your CP. Consider building SBS for both pve and pvp
Get your team revised once above, especially once found jackal and built up your batteries
I'll be working on that now, thank you
no, although at least compared to the others can be used as B1 non feeding padding
posted temporary teams regardless, you can run those for now
so i probly dont need to include her in my newly made teams right - blood made them last night
doubt you will
anyone help with suggestion on how to beat this teams?
what i have
have all nikke
Blood’s teams should last for a long while 
you don't have a jackal below there do you and a noah
ok biscuit noah and jackal, there's hope
does your s.anis have burst lvl 9?
🤔

T1: ScarJack
T2: Blanc SAnis/SBS 
T3: Moran + Biscuit
Opponent is below average CP at his sync too
T3 blanc p1 is rough, can kill pre burst 
Can noah biscuit all teams 
🎈
i'd do either of these 2
Hacks
U got ur solutions!
@chrome basin
just doublecheck CP and ensure you're not on deficit on the offchance 
4 brains cooking teams 
overkill the poor guy on def 
the brains are braining 
thanks i will try it out
Interesting sac choices
Quency dual smg ele weak
Bsoda ele adv Clip SG

Yeah so all my pvp teams are outdated so if anyone can give me sp Arena atk/def that would be much appreciated 
If there's any pvp unit I should invest more on i will do it
Emilia with 21% charge speed?
i dont think so but will definitely invest in her then
anything you cook up for me is better than the random teams i put in hahaha
Try to get emilia to total 21% charge speed. So this means skill 1 + OLs = 21% cs. So if s1 lv10, means about ~8% cs from OLs
Si
Initial OLs on xMaiden, Noah, Centi would be nice
I still need initial overload on Rumani
Much appreciated will do I followed the pvp guides on prwden but they seem outdated now but at least I have a direction than, you so much
Thats about it actually. Just initial OL ur pvp units, Laplace Treasure if u really wanna pvp
I've been diamond 3 for months but now after not touching my pvp teams I'm somehow diamond 7 now 
U should be challenger 
Damn
Just OL everyone here and u should be good 
Everyone's OL except rumani

that ain't ever happening



what you mileaging pepper for

