#pvp-arena

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quick lake
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Come cook in pvp more often hehhh

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We need more pvp chefs

restive heart
restive heart
jagged mesa
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any thoughts on how rrh will perform in pvp?

restive heart
jagged mesa
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or is mg just doodoo in pvp

restive heart
jagged mesa
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gotcha, windup is too long i suppose

quick lake
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Pretty meh at this point. Only viable team for her now is Blanc + Rapi, which is slow and expensive

restive heart
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only MG unit that is worth using in pvp is either rosanna or crown

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but the thing is rosanna is expensive to build

coarse lake
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eh...

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I'd say rapipi is around on par with crown in usefulness in pvp

coarse lake
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decent sustained dmg that hits everyone throughout full burst and cannot be taunted

coarse lake
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but needs high rapipi invest

quick lake
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Pvp midpi

coarse lake
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and probably the strongest st pressure in pvp once she bursts

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which isn't actually that useful, but can blow up jackal links if p1 is linked

restive heart
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but event if i have built rapipi, idk where to use her and my pvp arena is somehow dying

coarse lake
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she's only used in atk

restive heart
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@quick lake what can you suggest rookie arena team?

coarse lake
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DoroThink indom rapipi prob completely annihilates god comp

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which relies on biscuit-less linked units sharing dmg to sustain

restive heart
coarse lake
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oh that's one of the setups I wanna see tested

quick lake
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Rapi BlancJackal KEKL

coarse lake
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not optimal sanis team setup, but eh, close enough

restive heart
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ill try

coarse lake
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that setup should be fine, do it like that

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the slower your rapipi the better odds you got I think

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record

quick lake
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Depends if Rapi has decent investments though. Probably need 10/7/10. Maybe some Atk% OLs too

coarse lake
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yeah also need to know your invest

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s1 prob doesn't need to be that high

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burst just needs high enough to hit all 5

restive heart
coarse lake
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check logs, did you win

quick lake
coarse lake
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try doing some pve stuff then trying again ig, if you got more attempts

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really need a vid recording

restive heart
quick lake
quick lake
restive heart
coarse lake
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hmm

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noise had aggro

restive heart
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his noah is too stronk man

coarse lake
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low dps, so noah got invuln super late

restive heart
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and my rapipi is too weak lmao

coarse lake
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unlinked biscuit so she lived long enough

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sanis did die due to being linked

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hmm

restive heart
coarse lake
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yeah jackal sanis with noise prio might counter rapipi harder than normal

restive heart
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i still have 5 rookie attempts

coarse lake
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unless... you got a sub dps that can get noah to invuln fast

quick lake
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Honestly quite alot of issues with Rapi. Noah and/or Biscuit makes it very hard for Rapi to kill after stalling

coarse lake
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only 22% ele is quite yikes

quick lake
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If both Rapipi vs Noah teams burst at the same time, there's only 10second - 3second = 7seconds left for Rapi's attachment. Thats like 3 bomb explosions pepehmmm

coarse lake
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yeah noah hurts rapipi a lot

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noah noise means you prob can't kill anyone

restive heart
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@coarse lake @quick lake WTF CHECK THIS OUT

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sending wait

coarse lake
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killed noise 1 bomb early this time, had enough time to focus on noah, since she was so tanky, managed to bomb her before invuln, so 1 shot there

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hmm

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might be hope yet, if you can deal enough to noise, and kill sanis, your blanc and jackal should help with stall

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if you had more ele, biscuit would be dead too, so even if you didn't 1 tap noah, skipping 2nd invuln, biscuit wouldn't be alive for it anyway

restive heart
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ill try to do this def for now

coarse lake
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that def loses to scar jack

swift mango
quick lake
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Opponent 2RL vs our team 3RL pepehmmm (feed included)

coarse lake
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yeah that rapipi setup is by default like 4rl anyway

quick lake
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Too RNG for my liking. Even being 1 full RL slower, u still cant reliably get past Noah/Biscuit pepehmmm

coarse lake
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although

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bursting 1rl late helped here, I think noah only managed to block 1 bomb

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biscuit took 4 bomb hits during full burst

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if same speed it would be 3

restive heart
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i know but my rookie arena people are dumb to know burst gen

quick lake
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U lose to all faster scar and cindy comps sadge

coarse lake
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yeah it's still quite rng rn, at best it's a case by case basis based on sanis setup and rapi invest, but even there, there's a good amount of rng

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although if you got enough dmg to make noah and jackal both get invuln fairly quick, you got better odds than back to back invuln noah

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also since you kill sanis asap, so if using biscuit, you got your defenders to help stall

quick lake
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And we’re using RH b1, so already very slow

restive heart
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ill try to attack this guy in spvp

coarse lake
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that's all assuming their noise is taunt prio

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which isn't always gonna be the case

restive heart
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lets see whats gonna happen

swift mango
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I can only see Redpipi viable in def if you used her with Rossanna

quick lake
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HMMM pepehmmm

coarse lake
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hmm maybe

quick lake
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Rosanna Blanc Rapi pepehmmm

swift mango
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Or if you are in lower level bracket. Or if Rapipi being your highest CP, 10% above other dps

coarse lake
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you probably win against that setup since they don't have biscuit, but will be interesting to watch

quick lake
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The break point is if Blanc + 4atkOL Rapi can reliably kill enemies in 3-4 bombs

coarse lake
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should be a close enough example of god comp, should get melted

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with 4x ele it's probably doable

restive heart
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lmao nvm rapipi died but won 3/3 so goofy

coarse lake
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but with rosa you're now losing a lot of dmg

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you couldn't kill them in time?

restive heart
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and thats my mistak

coarse lake
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oh

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oh... you took out jackal

restive heart
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i know know im dumdum

coarse lake
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see? someone already made the mistake of turning rapi into b1

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pretty sure your rapi was b1 there, do you remember if rapi or rh bursted as b3

coarse lake
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yep, what I thought was gonna happen already happened kekl

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yeah need to use rumani there if you don't wanna link, but jackal is just safer

restive heart
quick lake
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Rapipi will probably be good… if 4ele 4atk 2-3ammo wahahaha

swift mango
coarse lake
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hmm... that team doesn't have much sustain

quick lake
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Crown..? pepehmmm

restive heart
coarse lake
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if they live through rosa snipe and got biscuit to deal with rapipi st dmg, they win

swift mango
coarse lake
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and still need a good bit of feed for 3rl

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eh...

quick lake
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Still feels copium to me pain

swift mango
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Before attacking

coarse lake
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2rl noah probably just wins, so not that diff from a scar setup

swift mango
coarse lake
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eh just feels like a worst variant of the scar b2 rosa

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same counters, but scar b3 threat is at least instant

swift mango
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So long as a team has 2 clip RL there are room for improvement

swift mango
coarse lake
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I mean yeah...

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same counters

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still better off using blanc instead of noah crown imo

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blanc centi will be faster too

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and you got more time for rapipi to potentially clutch up

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esp since their noah is probably a full rl faster, so you got a chance

swift mango
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Redpipi counter are more Noise, rapunzel tbh. Not much Noah. Which more about biscuit

coarse lake
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noah hurts rapipi sustained dmg a lot, but can't solo carry yeah

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neither can noise

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main counter is just biscuit really

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if built enough, double buff indom rapipi prob needs noah biscuit + healer to deal with

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which makes the team weak to scar jack

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so realistically you can only do 1 buffer rapipi for def

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which makes it even easier to deal with

coarse lake
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yeah that too, being even slower than scar

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yeah not seeing a setup where she gets out of the niche attacking team tier

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using noah biscuit instead of blanc on her is a huge waste, and she needs all the buffs she can get to begin with

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so she doesn't have much comp flexibility

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ig she's a passable replacement for scar in a blanc rosa setup.... if you somehow don't have scar

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or just use a different b3 nuker, we got plenty

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the one thing she is good at is killing linked units during full burst, she doesn't really share that role with anyone really

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if xmaiden nuke gets blocked she isn't killing linked fast

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but that niche isn't that important either

swift mango
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She is best B1 is the game for PvE right now so her CP would be off the roof comparing to other Nikke. That's a big reason to squeeze her into arena.

coarse lake
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yeah

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hmm

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are there any teams that counter rapi/blanc/rosa/anis/jackal that doesn't counter scar in the same setup PI_pikathink

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rapi variant blows up god comp, so that's a bonus, but no one except me runs that these days

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2rl noah biscuit noise/rapu should win against rapi, and also probably scar, but haven't tested

swift mango
coarse lake
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yeah

swift mango
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No buff Emi goes hard

coarse lake
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probably fine, got time to kill

swift mango
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NovelHmm idk how that fares against Rapipi with lots of elements lines.

coarse lake
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a blanc biscuit setup that relies on either facetanking rosa snipe or with sac or all defender.... should win against rapipi but lose against scar

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problem with rapipi being the aoe is too slow to come out

swift mango
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Probably Rapipi is only really a threat in a whale hand.

4 line AtK
4 like Ele
3 line Ammo

Core +7

coarse lake
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she needs to be able to kill a full team with just aoe with 1 buffer to be more useful, esp as def

quick lake
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Yeah ^ Rapi needs to be mega invested to work

coarse lake
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on atk, you prob need 2 buffer anyway to deal with whatever sustain they got

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but honestly.... eh ig she's a cope replacement for scar in a blanc rosa setup

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that's more can be said for the other b3 nukers we got with no followup

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rapipi aoe is basically like scar counter anyway

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actually better when dealing with rls

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as for other def teams....

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noah/biscuit/rapi/rh/rumani is passable ig

swift mango
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Maybe they would release a Blanc in the future that buff attack speed instead of dmg and be clip RL.

That's when Rapi will have some big business

coarse lake
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wahahaha that ain't ever happening

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SU releasing a b2 that's meta in pvp? never

quick lake
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No meta B1 in pvp either KEKL

coarse lake
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best we can hope for is 60 fps in champs

swift mango
coarse lake
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that'll actually make rapipi insane

swift mango
coarse lake
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no amount of heals making your team live through full burst

quick lake
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I wouldnt mind another Moran/Noise equivalent prayge

coarse lake
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but well... you can already do it with emi or sanis in that slot

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so rapipi isn't doing anything special

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well... ig a half decent rapipi comp should at least force a biscuit use

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which is pretty good ig

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likely noah biscuit use if the rapipi is built enough

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which makes her... slightly better than scar in this specific area

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tbh

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I'm not averse to testing it out in my own def

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rapi/blanc/rosa/anis/jackal

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esp once my rapi cp gets a lot higher, that team's cp is quite low rn with scar

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I'm sure i'm missing something, gotta be a team that beats rapipi variant that doesn't beat scar variant

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oh ig there's one... maybe

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a sg setup to try to kill p1 asap, but it'll be a race between jackal link and killing rapipi

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sg + rosa should do it actually

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since rapipi doesn't have any way to deal with sgs

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mirror setup with scar should win against rapipi

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if enough counter dmg

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but prob depends on scar invest

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1-2rl slower Blanc/Cindy/biscuit/b1/flex no attacker setup should also win

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Neutralizes Rosa snipe, the rapi only gets 1 bomb off before the team indoms and wipes rapi team, winning with slower indom

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Scar doesn't let you do that if scar can 1 shot your non invuln units

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Yeah still kinda cope

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But the closest to a scar replacement we have in a Blanc rosa setup

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So honestly.... Not that bad

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Just overall a mid pvp unit

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Going by prydwen tierlist... I'd say S tier, maybe can argue for SS, but that's a stretch until I see a 1 buffer rapi do enough dmg

quick lake
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Preliminary pvp rank was ~A

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I agree. Just let Rapi be good in PvE pain let her sleep in pvp

coarse lake
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Also why tf is xmaiden in S tier

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She should be in SS

quick lake
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Snake mentioned they might do a revamp once CA is out

coarse lake
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She's definitely better than the bozos in A

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Better than several in S

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Worst than almost everyone in SS, can make some arguments

quick lake
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Hmm I think prydwen's pvp tierlist is mostly for attacking pvp

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Not necessarily defence

coarse lake
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Then she's definitely S, borderline SS

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Rapipi is weakest in def, hard to do 2 buffer without getting nuked

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She's better than Eva rei imo

violet prism
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Hello Chefs

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I need some help in cooking for SPA/rookie arena Doro

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Also I got the SSR selector, should I use it for Biscuit/DKW/Rouge?

sinful iris
quick lake
# violet prism

T1: Noise Tia Bay Anis RH
T2: SBS BunnySoda Blanc xMaiden Jackal
T3: Auto the rest

quick lake
violet prism
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Ty Chef, and which team for rookie?

quick lake
violet prism
quick lake
violet prism
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Gotcha

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Thank you for the help AliceLove

quick lake
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Ur campaign team as it is, is alr really solid. Nothing in particular u need for the selector. Advised to just hoard for now @violet prism thumbsup

violet prism
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Ok brother

steady jetty
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hi

quick lake
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Is laplace treasured?

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Rumani?

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If u have Sugar or BSoda

brazen ledge
quartz fern
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Need revamp my pvp team, any suggestions for SP and rookie?

tropic summit
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guess you could promote this team to 4RL with viper, if the CP loss big tho leave as is

as for rosanna, wait till you unlock more batteries

crystal flicker
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Are they fix CIndy bug already?

lunar dirge
tropic summit
# quartz fern Need revamp my pvp team, any suggestions for SP and rookie?

scarlet grave rh emilia jackal
centi blanc cind rumani alice
noah biscuit rapu sbs laplace+

cubes:

quantum mandatory to hit 3RL on centi and rumani in T2
quantum on jackal
vigor on blanc, rapu, biscuit
temperance on noah
rest of the nikke can have highest available cube

notes: once you invest more on noise and s.anis, you could improve T3 with more sustain and more backline damage, without penalizing CP
notes2: we assuming laplace is treasured, let me know if she isn't we can put xmaiden instead

crystal flicker
lunar dirge
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they still didn't fix the arena bug

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so

quartz fern
crystal flicker
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F for Cindy then

quick lake
crystal flicker
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Basically the web version of the sheets

quick lake
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Rookie Arena?
Scarlet Blanc RH Centi Jackal

upper grove
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Should I upgrade my campaign OL from 0/5 to 4/5 - 5/5 to mald and push vs MC ch 32 instead of saving for pvp OL? I'm currently top 3 without any OL in pvp only units. I could gain enough stats (like 10% CP more, 300k -> 330k+) if I dump in campaign OL to widen the gap further, rest of bracket is like 2 chapters behind me

keen vapor
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Overload itself is more important than extra levels with 200 CP increase

upper grove
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I know that OL boosting to 5 is a huge resource drain, I just want to min max a bit because of higher outpost lvl. I don't want to brick my pvp. I gain like 1500 CP per gear piece and could clear MC faster this way. Otherwise I'd have to wait a lot longer for sync

upper grove
keen vapor
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Yes TimiProud

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I overloaded Anis TimiSerious

upper grove
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let's pray for good kraken drops then prayge

pseudo arch
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Could someone please help me update my sp defense teams, ty

quasi prism
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But that's just me maybe.

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I find it more important to hard focus getting the gear for everyone first then collecting stones, since you get a fair bit of stones just overtime anyways.

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If anyone has a take on this I'd like to hear it though in case I'm wrong :p

tropic summit
# pseudo arch Could someone please help me update my sp defense teams, ty

emilia blanc rapu alice jackal
centi rumani cind anis b.soda
noah noise biscuit s.anis laplace+

cubes:

quantum on jackal, centi, rumani, anis
vigor on rapu, blanc, biscuit, noise
temperance on noah
resil. on s.anis, s.anis must also be lvl 9 on her burst skill, else replace her with SBS

notes: wishlist scarlet

steady jetty
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quick question, i m old player and have all pvp unit ( literally ). i never touch the pvp side, can anyone suggest a good team ? for sp arena

tropic summit
steady jetty
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wait

tame cedar
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Hey guys, I need some advice for sp arena; I’ve been getting kicked off Diamond 1 this season. Any help is appreciated!

My current teams:

Jackal-Alice-Noir-Maid Priv-Noah

Liter-Naga-SBS-Dorothy-Cinderella

Scarlet-Blanc-Centi-Anis-Rumani

Here’s my current nikkes in synch device:

silver siren
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Anyone still having issue with special arena? I have this guy , everytime i try to attack him, will always have error saying discontinue from server, i tried log out and restart the game but still same.

tame cedar
fathom rock
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Someone cook for him Deadge

limber rampart
steady jetty
steady jetty
tropic summit
tropic summit
steady jetty
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can

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got the resource

tropic summit
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hmm ok hold on that for now, let's see

tropic summit
steady jetty
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yeah

tropic summit
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oki, we can enable a cindy team aswell this way

steady jetty
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got selector as well for rouge if necessary

tropic summit
# steady jetty

scarlet grave rh anis jackal
blanc sbs rumani biscuit xmaiden
centi pepper cind emilia noah

cubes:
quantum on anis, jackal, rumani, centi
vigor blanc, biscuit, pepper
temperance on noah
any other nikke put highest available cube

post your 3 teams just to doublecheck CP as we can balance them out in case

steady jetty
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sure, not in pos to open the game, ill update later. thank you

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when you said anis you mean s anis right ?

crystal frost
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Please help me build my sp arena teams

keen vapor
swift mango
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Summer Anis is ASS ngl

rustic sandal
keen vapor
keen vapor
rustic sandal
swift mango
keen vapor
keen vapor
# rustic sandal

Ok, it loaded the left one

First of all, if you want to attack someone before update you better show the target ok?

rustic sandal
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okay ✍️

keen vapor
# rustic sandal

There's no jackal, Blanc or Noah trolldespair it's impressive that you can stay on D1 at all

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Let's see what can be done... Probably 2 sacc teams

rustic sandal
tropic summit
keen vapor
swift mango
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Wishlist Noah and blanc

keen vapor
rustic sandal
keen vapor
lunar dirge
keen vapor
lunar dirge
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not denying that she is less important,but allows the dps like sbs or rh have value

swift mango
lunar dirge
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especially when whe only have 4 defensive units in the game,and 1 of them is b1,and biscuit used with noah 90% of all times

swift mango
lunar dirge
swift mango
lunar dirge
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sbs victim

swift mango
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But ofc nothing replace them

swift mango
steady jetty
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i see thanks

lunar dirge
keen vapor
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Blanc is only lb2 ShiftyWah

keen vapor
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:chime cry:

keen vapor
lunar dirge
swift mango
# rustic sandal

You could hold on to selector too for when you get the other units first

keen vapor
bleak shale
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anything in p1 gets smacked if i dont protect them for me

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14%-15.5% deficit gaming

bleak shale
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my moran is lb0 no OL no doll PepeLaugh

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theres a good chance 1 hit takes her past 20% and she dies

lunar dirge
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7/10/10 moranclueless

bleak shale
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111 YEP

lunar dirge
swift mango
# rustic sandal

So did you pop ur selector or still hold on to it?

If you still hold on to it, wishlist Noah, Biscuit, Blanc, Centi, Jackal first.

When you get 3 of them, grab the missing one from selector.

keen vapor
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@rustic sandal ngl you lack several key units, I only managed to build one decent team

The best for now is the first one + 2 auto teams but you need to wishlist more PVP units

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One selector is not enough to solve this :deadge:

bleak shale
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the b0 teams woah

keen vapor
bleak shale
rustic sandal
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ty guys sm for answerin ;-; i think ill watch some indepth video bout pvp stuff

rustic sandal
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hell yeah ty

swift mango
strong hull
keen vapor
swift mango
strong hull
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Blood kun

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Your 3 defs demoted me from c5 to dia 8

keen vapor
lunar dirge
keen vapor
strong hull
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You cant escape this time

keen vapor
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No AdmiOno I need to craft my new defense

strong hull
keen vapor
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MiharaScream

wary wraith
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any kind soul can help me in suggesting comp against my opponent please? Prayge

keen vapor
lunar dirge
lunar dirge
strong hull
lunar dirge
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we're talking about you rn

strong hull
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Centi and noah left

keen vapor
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Specially Centi for jackal teams

strong hull
lunar dirge
swift mango
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How did it go?

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Show your battle log

strong hull
lunar dirge
strong hull
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Losing top 20 below

swift mango
strong hull
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Dw blood kun

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Ure done ur job

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ill drag echo back to my basement

lunar dirge
keen vapor
swift mango
keen vapor
lunar dirge
strong hull
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Quite decent

keen vapor
strong hull
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Ig Ein still too weak rn

keen vapor
lunar dirge
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secret cook

strong hull
swift mango
lunar dirge
keen vapor
swift mango
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The 4 extra attack give people lots of hell

lunar dirge
strong hull
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They will suffering when im done OLing ein centi Noah

lunar dirge
keen vapor
swift mango
strong hull
wary wraith
strong hull
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How was ur rapi Alexa

lunar dirge
wary wraith
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also did anyone have the bug where i lose sometimes if i skipped the battle, but never loses if didn't skip?

lunar dirge
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8/8/8 for now

strong hull
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Nice def + charge dmg + charge spd

strong hull
wary wraith
lunar dirge
wary wraith
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in the end their RH got the indom instead

lunar dirge
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jackal linked with biscuit

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not emi

wary wraith
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lmao

lunar dirge
wary wraith
lunar dirge
wary wraith
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but it was because i bursted faster lmao

swift mango
# keen vapor Yes

So cook Thien his 3teams.

It's better to have 2+ def line up to swap around. If your cook not getting attacked, the better.

wary wraith
lunar dirge
strong hull
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Soon.

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If not you know the result

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Just bought a new belt for work today

keen vapor
swift mango
# fathom rock

@limber rampart

I would need to know your units stats for better Blanc planning but I will just do the easiest routine first.

Liter+SBS+Blanc+Crown+Jackal (make sure SBS having lower HP than Liter and Jackal. And Liter has higher ATK than Blanc and Crown)

Centi+Anis+Rumani+Cindy+XMaiden

Auto team.

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Equip quantum on Jackal if you have it.

Could replace crown with Noir as well. Make sure Liter has higher attack though. Should be normal looking at your line up.

keen vapor
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Caishen ShiftyHi cook me a new defense

keen vapor
tropic summit
lunar dirge
keen vapor
lunar dirge
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and assumaing s.anis will survive double buff emi

tropic summit
keen vapor
tropic summit
grizzled bone
lunar dirge
keen vapor
tropic summit
grizzled bone
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what're you using now? KannaSip

swift mango
keen vapor
lunar dirge
keen vapor
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What about

Cindy P1/X Mica against Emi ICBM ?

swift mango
tropic summit
lunar dirge
lunar dirge
grizzled bone
tropic summit
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mica theorycrafting DuduStare

lunar dirge
tropic summit
lunar dirge
swift mango
keen vapor
keen vapor
burnt leaf
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Need help building my PvP team

lunar dirge
tropic summit
lunar dirge
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even my crown team works better

grizzled bone
keen vapor
keen vapor
swift mango
keen vapor
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F2P btw LiterSmug

tropic summit
lunar dirge
keen vapor
lunar dirge
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pepehmmm i'll let it slide

keen vapor
tropic summit
lunar dirge
tropic summit
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you guys are less f2p than i am poggies

keen vapor
tropic summit
lunar dirge
swift mango
tropic summit
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at least you can still obtain noah Doropression

swift mango
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Then we no longer brickedsadge

tropic summit
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meanwhile i gotta survive on pure copium for a re;zero rerun in maybe 1 year and a half hehhh

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let's hope CA doesn't release before then

swift mango
lunar dirge
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you're just another remilia

swift mango
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Should have problem at all

keen vapor
#

Where's our treasures/daily streamlined sadge

tropic summit
lunar dirge
tropic summit
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there's hope of sort then trolldespair

swift mango
#

But CA may be partially resolved next year. So good luck waiting.

grizzled bone
grizzled bone
keen vapor
swift mango
keen vapor
wary wraith
#

will i still get the free attempts tomorrow if i don't use the chips?

keen vapor
swift mango
#

It's permanent. I only have 1 chip though. Used the rest when I tested my team the other days

wary wraith
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then i found out about the daily attempts not being increased, which is good

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could use some of them in the future to take back 1st place :3

swift mango
swift mango
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That was a closed one huh. NovelHmm

keen vapor
#

sadge indeed

swift mango
keen vapor
#

350

coarse lake
#

that's... not too bad, 20 lvls behind me

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how much were you behind back then

swift mango
keen vapor
swift mango
keen vapor
coarse lake
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you were 325 peak and I was 341 back then?

keen vapor
#

:susge:

grizzled bone
swift mango
keen vapor
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Haven't tried after leveling up

swift mango
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Oh good luck then

strong hull
coarse lake
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do you know your campaign progress back in 7/20

strong hull
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back to normal blood kun

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at least so.

tropic summit
coarse lake
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I was about 278 back then, you were 230, with 4.7k 1 hour boxes

swift mango
strong hull
coarse lake
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if assuming you were 60/hr back then, or less + some other core boxes, that's still a 20 gap

keen vapor
coarse lake
#

how much campaign progress is typical of a sync 230

coarse lake
keen vapor
swift mango
keen vapor
coarse lake
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then it won't matter for this comparison, that was in july

keen vapor
#

Buying attempts, how many weeks before anni you started account
How earlier

coarse lake
#

it's about the core gain rate from july to now

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and the gap

coarse lake
#

add in a few non 1-hr boxes, should be about 60/hr

swift mango
coarse lake
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eh.... the core dust gap didn't increase since july really

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350 is your peak rn with opening all boxes yeah?

swift mango
keen vapor
coarse lake
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what I'm trying to get at is whether his core dust rate slowed since july when we last checked

keen vapor
swift mango
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Never bricked in campaign vs other in my bracket

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I remember cleared up to that with just Scarlet as my pilgrim. And to ch17 without any pligrim

coarse lake
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then the gap significantly decreased.... if we consider you only had that 4.7k 1 hour boxes back then

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honestly need more data back then of your peak

swift mango
#

Right now you could clear up to ch17 in one week. If you rerolled for Redpipi or any strong dps pligrim

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The early rush isn't hard, it just need no life-ing and good use of resources.

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Given to you by the game.

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Including tower, lost sector, academy, borrowing units, passing hard targets to beat later .etc

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The placement in SP.A would be half decided by just how hard you pushed early on. The rest up to luck with pulls + competitors and how invested you are in the mode.

coarse lake
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hmm dug through your messages around that time, you never said what sync you would be if you used up all your boxes

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so can't make a comparison

swift mango
keen vapor
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July?

coarse lake
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end of july

swift mango
coarse lake
#

I did manage to grab my sync in late august, will try searching your messages there

coarse lake
#

how much were the whales at during this time

swift mango
keen vapor
#

Let's see, I was 241 NovelHmm

lunar dirge
#

pretty weak ngl

keen vapor
coarse lake
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any idea if you only had 3.6k 1 hour boxes at this point, or had others too

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like, I just need to find a point where you say how much you would be if you opened all your core cases, not just how many 1 hours you had at the time

keen vapor
coarse lake
#

you had other boxes at that point?

keen vapor
coarse lake
#

did you use up your non-1 hour boxes first or did you use the 1 hours before the others

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at that point you were opening a lot of boxes, any idea which ones you opened first

keen vapor
coarse lake
#

ok so we don't have good enough data smh

keen vapor
coarse lake
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are you 350 rn if you open all of your core dust cases

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or just the 1hours

keen vapor
#

351

coarse lake
#

in both july and aug you were 20 behind (same as now), but with only your 1 hours

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if we assume we pushed campaign at approx the same rate since then.... eh...

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I also converted a lot of exp to core dust, at least 5 lvls worth

keen vapor
keen vapor
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But the 1hr definitively reached 5k pepehmmm

coarse lake
#

brother... are those 903 selectors I'm seeing

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why would you not count those

keen vapor
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Count it, production is 71

coarse lake
#

how many per hour is your outpost making

keen vapor
#

Well, plus some days of OD is 358

coarse lake
#

14-15 lvls worth

keen vapor
coarse lake
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have you opened your non-1hours or selectors since july

coarse lake
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did you screenshot your boxes around july

keen vapor
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I've always did 1hr the most, a couple of times some 2hr ones (this time way more than some)

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July is when I started Valhalla pepehmmm

coarse lake
#

yeah no conclusion can be made, but I'm decently sure you didn't lose much progress since july anyway

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when did you start

keen vapor
coarse lake
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lemme see if I can find your progress a few months in to compare, to eliminate bad start issues

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bc I tracked my progress for a few months

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I assume you didn't start hoarding until later

coarse lake
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ok you're at 155-160 on 1/20

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before wall, so great, won't skew stuff if stuck

keen vapor
#

I used some challenge selectors (16 core dust) for a bit of battle data a few times, but even back then I hoarded those until reaching level 200 and claimed for core dust

coarse lake
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I was... at 166 on 1/11, 1 month in forgsip

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ok so you're already behind there due to bad start

keen vapor
coarse lake
#

oh damn yeah your team was trash even in feb

keen vapor
vale forum
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I'm trying to see if my PVP Team needs any help. I'm currently using Noise\Blanc\Maiden: Ice Rose\SBS\Sugar (T1) Rumani\Anis\Alice\Maid Privaty\LaPlace (T2) and Quency Escape Queen\Tia\Viper\Naga\Drake (T3)

coarse lake
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you're 189 on 3/4

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I'm 219 on 3/11

keen vapor
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It only took me 100 vouchers sadge

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I was born a hoarder TimiProud

coarse lake
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you're 209 on 4/16, I'm 233 on 4/14

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and that was the last monthly update I made regarding sync

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were you hoarding back in april

keen vapor
coarse lake
keen vapor
coarse lake
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you had... decent team back then, just missing good b2

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I was running tiga back then, so had adv

keen vapor
#

Crown got me like 3 chapter push FrimaSleep

coarse lake
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eh.... I'm not seeing any massive progression loss from hoarding

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if there were any, it's marginal

keen vapor
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Cheating

keen vapor
coarse lake
#

well I don't think there's progression gain from hoarding either

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PI_pikathink right?

coarse lake
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I don't think you were ever that far behind me in sync

keen vapor
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That's why is started as hoarder TimiProud

coarse lake
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unless someone can prove that there's progression gain from hoarding... you're still just gimping yourself pvp

keen vapor
coarse lake
#

assuming with both strats you push campaign as far as you can first

keen vapor
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Yes, I always were doing my best prayge

keen vapor
vale forum
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Not yet

coarse lake
#

well ig what you're doing is fine assuming these 2 things are true:

  1. you'll eventually open all your boxes
  2. you're ok with having a permanent handicap in pvp
keen vapor
vale forum
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Working both to get Pepper so I can break 160 Wall

keen vapor
# vale forum Not yet

Limit break selector is a thing you get for leveling to level 141 for the first time

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Ig you already used it

vale forum
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Yeah, used that one long time ago

keen vapor
vale forum
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51

keen vapor
#

Well, it seems you know ....

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Yeah...

keen vapor
vale forum
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Not as often as I should

keen vapor
#

Well, is fine if you collect the points only, is very hard to get exactly pepper from there anyways NovelHmm

vale forum
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Yeah, that's the current plan is milage Pepper asap and use new years selector for Rouge probably

coarse lake
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frog_drink what you mileaging pepper for

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oh for 160 wall, carry on

vale forum
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RNG decided Pepper was my way out. I pulled 2/3 of her trying to get Rapi:RH PlatFeelsBad

keen vapor
#

I also got Pepper on a Red Hood banner TimiProud

quasi prism
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I wonder how the eva banners are going to work

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Since this is the first time a collab has had a part 2/rerun correct?

keen vapor
#

@vale forum third team as auto

vale forum
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OK. Cool. Thanks

keen vapor
#

I wonder if GraveP1 would be better option pepehmmm

vale forum
#

I assume Team 1 will be fine for Rookie too?

keen vapor
quasi prism
#

I'd like to assume regular asuka and rei will be back with mari to... since they are giving mari another skin

keen vapor
#

Prob

keen vapor
#

It all depends on tankyness

kindred tinsel
#

can someone tell me my rl for my new teams Doro

glad meteor
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SBS burst way better than Alice TheRapi

kindred tinsel
#

im trying to use more of my invested units for cp boost anyone else i could try for 3rl

lusty gazelle
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5678io'

tropic summit
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if noise and noah together, noise should've less CS% than noah if in p1, viceversa the opposite

kindred tinsel
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something was working here tho i wish i had replay

swift mango
#

Now to save for a month fr

grizzled bone
swift mango
#

It was a good bait tbh.

Lucky with dispatch, lucky with the gem balls, lucky with the mold, then nothing when I actually use the pulls.

thorn dock
#

Can anyone guild me how to fight these team comps?
Team 1 ( 3 RL Gen but sacrifice anis for burst filling >20%)
Team 2 ( 2.5 RL )
Team 3 ( 3 RL)

kindred tinsel
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hmm team 1 and 3 seems winnable DoroTHINK

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team 1 noah scarlet counter team

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team 3 not dps on thsi team possible could use a summer anis rh team here

thorn dock
#

rosana dispel noah's shield 😦

thorn dock
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The problem is I don't know how to take down remaining teams

kindred tinsel
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@keen vapor wake up we got a customer GunCat

swift mango
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Finally I can flex this alongside the rest of the top 10 of my bracket who all also have this.TheRapi

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The 10 dubs now have meaning.

warped cedar
torn garnet
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Anyone got a good team for rookie arena and SP Arena?

thorn dock
kindred tinsel
thorn dock
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Yeah

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I don’t know why rosana always dispel shield from noah

glad meteor
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Do you have vid?

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Should be kind of late for rosy to dispel shield

thorn dock
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I also try jack , scarlet 2 RL but when the opponent’s anis died it fill up the burst too

thorn dock
glad meteor
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What’s your current team 3

thorn dock
thorn dock
#

I usually nuke with cindy or scarlet

tropic summit
# torn garnet Anyone got a good team for rookie arena and SP Arena?

noah naga viper s.anis noise
centi pepper cind noir tia
xmaiden asuka biscuit sugar liter

cubes:

quantum on centi
vigor on noise, biscuit, pepper
temperance on noah
resil on s.anis, ideally have her burst skill lvl9, else replace her with alice

notes: wishlist scarlet, jackal, rumani asap

rookie team:

noah centi cind pepper alice

lunar dirge
thorn dock
thorn dock
thorn dock
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Due to slower burst gen

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And somehow rosana can dispel shield @_@

umbral belfry
#

would it be a good idea to exchange centi for blanc for cp padding? (rookie arena)

lunar dirge
thorn dock
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Well, no one could defeat that player since september beside me xD

thorn dock
glad meteor
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pepehmmm I’m thinking something like this. But try alex cook. TheRapi

Noise taunt prio. Noah more CS

glad meteor
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Do you use cubes which give buff effects

thorn dock
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And their team 1 is 2.5 - 2 RL with filling burt @_@

glad meteor
thorn dock
glad meteor
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Resil, vigor, temper I think

thorn dock
glad meteor
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pepehmmm true, sbs might kill anis if high ele

thorn dock
glad meteor
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Ein will target p5

thorn dock
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Anis death casue filling up the burst

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So they can burst faster

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At that time somehow their rosan will dispel my noah shield

glad meteor
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I think noise noah + cubes give enough buffs to where it’s too later for noah invul to dispel

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Main problem i see is anis getting extra gen from noah taunt due to cs. RLs alone shouldn’t be strong enough to kill anis in 2rl

thorn dock
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Or I think rosana will dispel the newest buff ??

glad meteor
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Ros dispels 5 buffs at 1-1.5 rl. First 5 buffs that activate I think pepehmmm

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Dispels personal buffs, cubes, jackal link, then other buffs

thorn dock
glad meteor
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If burst at same time. Rosanna b1 can kill attacker before noah shield lands

thorn dock
#

Can jackal prevent it ???

glad meteor
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Jackal can’t. Noah can. My plan was to weaken p1 pressure by using supporter defender rls so anis lives and they’re not 2RL

lunar dirge
swift mango
lunar dirge
upper grove
#

I rerolled great stats but not % for Alice, lost so much CP even though the attributes are much better pain

thorn dock
glad meteor
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If you go 3rl you gotta tank the rosanna burst depending on what dps you use. The team I suggested reaches 2rl with feed.

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But want noise to have taunt prio

thorn dock
glad meteor
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The ein team, redhood probably better than ein though

glad meteor
thorn dock
glad meteor
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It should be blocked by noah, unless you’re rl’s are so strong they kill anis in 2RL time SurprisedAnneFace

thorn dock
glad meteor
#

401+ sync pepehmmm should be kind of tanky

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Moran biscuit so good sadge

thorn dock
glad meteor
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n102scared it shouldn’t, though I’m worried about the suggested team 2

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Don’t run those teams i suggested

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I made it so 1/3 guranteed wins

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2 is made with remaining units

thorn dock
glad meteor
#

Plus lifesteal

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Since sanis in team

thorn dock
glad meteor
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Since no residual bug. I run an extra team to test. Sometimes it works

thorn dock
thorn dock
thorn dock
#

Btw thank you and I will wait for my daily tries to restart

glad meteor
swift mango
glad meteor
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Just imagine scar doesn’t exist TimiBlush

swift mango
glad meteor
#

Imagine no blanc buffer and max sr doll + moran burst + temper cube + no crit TimiLook

obtuse dagger
thorn dock
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And team 3 is gonna be between nuke with cindy or sanis invincible

glad meteor
#

Haven’t tested much against biscuit bay

thorn dock
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Well I nuke team 3 with cindi so only bay alive xD

glad meteor
#

3RL Cindy?

thorn dock
#

I still got rumani centi maiden ice so 150 3 rl gonna be fine

half grove
#

Is arena down now or something? I keep getting booted back to main lobby or "you're in battle, wait til it's over"

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Alright weird that happned like 5 times across 30 minutes but it works normally now

void loom
#

Whats thr best pvp team??

main trail
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there is no best pvp team

swift mango
void loom
tropic summit
void loom
void loom
#

Js realized sch starts in 30 mins

umbral belfry
#

is it worth exchanging blanc for centi if it gives more cp? (rookie arena)

swift mango
umbral belfry
#

what do you mean?

swift mango
umbral belfry
#

OH you meant it literally lmao. okay thanks!

swift mango
tropic summit
# void loom

that's not your box, with box we mean your nikke roster ordered by strength

umbral belfry
#

this is what happens when i auto

swift mango
umbral belfry
swift mango
umbral belfry
swift mango
umbral belfry
#

i have rouge/blanc/noir, but sbs is my only pilgrim

swift mango
swift mango
#

Campaign wise. Therr is no control in Arena

umbral belfry
#

oh I misread. then oof saj

swift mango
umbral belfry
#

ty for the tips PrayFrog

swift mango
swift mango
#

Other wise, just move swap XMaiden and Liter.

swift mango
# void loom

This but you will need more than one screenshot to show all your nikkes.

crystal frost
#

Help with building sp arena team

tropic summit
tropic summit
# void loom Full thing?

yes full thing would've been better, but as it's rookie we might already see enough nikke, go with:

privaty crown rh rumani jackal

tropic summit
# crystal frost

sbs blanc rh xmaiden jackal
noah biscuit emilia rrh maxwell
centi naga cind rumani alice

cubes:

quantum on jackal, centi, rumani
vigor on blanc, biscuit (xmaiden aswell if her HP is lower than sbs)
temperance on noah
any other nikke use any high level cube available

void loom
crystal frost
tropic summit
crystal frost
#

Thank u, been struggling in sp arena

void loom
#

Holy moly guacamole

visual sequoia
#

If anyone could help with a rookie arena and sp arena teams I'd appreciate the help 🙏

river moat
#

is laplace, yuni, or flora part of pvp meta or strong in pvp

tropic summit
river moat
#

is treasure laplace a nikke name

tropic summit
#

can you get centi and biscuit in sync? pepehmmm

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you're kinda gonna need them for pvp

glad meteor
river moat
#

how do you specifically farm laplace materials from dispatch

glad meteor
#

pepehmmm i forgot how you unlock it. But you can choose who to special dispatch and you can pick laplace. It’s in the regular dispatch location

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Seems someone made a guide. May help

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The treasure is also called special favourite item

river moat
#

ill google.

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is D Killer Wife part of pvp meta

tropic summit
# visual sequoia If anyone could help with a rookie arena and sp arena teams I'd appreciate the h...

grave liter cind anis noir
noah centi ein rh tia
blanc alice pepper biscuit laplace+

cubes:

quantum on anis, centi
vigor on pepper, biscuit, blanc

notes:

wishlist scarlet, jackal, noise
synchro centi, biscuit, xmaiden, sbs

build asap: centi and biscuit, else they tank your CP. Consider building SBS for both pve and pvp

Get your team revised once above, especially once found jackal and built up your batteries

visual sequoia
tropic summit
tropic summit
river moat
#

so i probly dont need to include her in my newly made teams right - blood made them last night

chrome basin
#

anyone help with suggestion on how to beat this teams?

#

what i have

#

have all nikke

quick lake
tropic summit
chrome basin
tropic summit
tropic summit
chrome basin
#

yessir

#

10/10/10

tropic summit
#

🤔

umbral crown
quick lake
#

T1: ScarJack
T2: Blanc SAnis/SBS pepehmmm
T3: Moran + Biscuit

#

Opponent is below average CP at his sync too

glad meteor
#

T3 blanc p1 is rough, can kill pre burst pepehmmm

umbral crown
#

T2 Noah+Biscuit

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And Cindy P2 feeds

glad meteor
#

Can noah biscuit all teams TheRapi

umbral crown
#

Probably

quick lake
#

🎈

glad meteor
umbral crown
#

Blanc/Ein/Emilia/Rapu/Centi

#

Ezemi

tropic summit
#

i'd do either of these 2

umbral crown
tropic summit
quick lake
tropic summit
#

just doublecheck CP and ensure you're not on deficit on the offchance hmmz

quick lake
#

4 brains cooking teams KEKW

tropic summit
umbral crown
#

4 brains think more than 3

#

We braining tonight

tropic summit
#

the brains are braining ShockAnne

umbral crown
#

Braining the brain

glad meteor
#

Maybe xmaiden p5

quick lake
#

Interesting sac choices

glad meteor
#

Quency dual smg ele weak
Bsoda ele adv Clip SG

prayge

dire belfry
#

Yeah so all my pvp teams are outdated so if anyone can give me sp Arena atk/def that would be much appreciated AliceLove

#

If there's any pvp unit I should invest more on i will do it

dire belfry
#

anything you cook up for me is better than the random teams i put in hahaha

quick lake
#

Try to get emilia to total 21% charge speed. So this means skill 1 + OLs = 21% cs. So if s1 lv10, means about ~8% cs from OLs

umbral crown
#

Si

quick lake
#

Initial OLs on xMaiden, Noah, Centi would be nice

keen vapor
#

I still need initial overload on Rumani

dire belfry
quick lake
dire belfry
#

I've been diamond 3 for months but now after not touching my pvp teams I'm somehow diamond 7 now KEKW

quick lake
dire belfry