#pvp-arena
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keep in mind blanc doesn't prevent dmg to everyone else
most people will make sure the indom target is alive and alone with 1 hp
then anyone can last hit them once out of indom
look at the vid i provided above for example, everyone dead with just scarlet alive, she'd need to auto 5 nikke 
while emilia could make it due to her splash buff post burst
now that one is more interesting 
Hmm, still seems that SAnis/SBS/Emilia can solo kill the opponent the opponent in those 10s of indom
well yeah, if no taunter or no hardcounter, those 10s will hurt
Feels like Rapun Blanc DPS + Biscuit wins ALL 3RL comps or faster? 
hmmm
Assuming ur DPS can kill all within those 10s of course (which it should most of the time)
Like I cant think of any faster comp that can kill it 
if assuming this team, i guess you'd need a 2RL or 2.5RL team wipe
the moment you kill rapu, the whole lineup falls
nope rapu is supporter afterall
Havent used her enough 
the other interesting thing of the blanc emi is that it's easy to customize on RL
2.5RL variation
yep yep. Blanc Emilia really OP
and 2RL
simply rotating anis with centi 🤨
but ye overall i guess that 3RL is kinda safe choice in most 3RL matchups
mostly because emilia acting in both battery and nuker, adaptable in so many context
Yeah, Emilia too broken 
good thing i own her


i updated https://nikke-deck.web.app/, any feedback is welcome
Saw ur site! Appreciate the great work! 
thanks
Maybe can consider adding the B1/2/3 and Noah timings 
do this for every nikke (as in you can set if they've 17% CS) and you're a hero
If we have such a tool, then my pvp opponents will realise im at 2.5RL and not 3RL anymore 
I'll lose 
matter of time since i remember hearing "rumors" they were planning to show a team burst gen 
but it's SU, it will take probably 2 years to happen
eh who knows
Woah thats actually kinda bad, bad for me 
i need to make some research about the formula then
i dunno depends a lot on how serious your opponents are
some ppl are just too lazy to get informed, they might even ignore it 
Essentially you bring forward the 3RL to 2.5RL
As reference
good idea, i should do this, but i will need to think about how to implement it
it was easy to handle special character like this for this version
There goes our 17% cs secret 
yeah, emilia is the most common due to her kit, but having the option to turn on if a nikke hits 17% CS would allow to calculate 2.5RL teams, a quite neat feature imo
"secret" 
Tbh, anyone not on discord wont know 
hmm, you're probably not wrong on this 
if it wasn't for this discord i'd be still running rocket launchers assuming they all have same burst gen 
Maybe only some CN forums and arca probs
i will think about it but first, i will add the save deck function
you're doing good work, keep it up 
Im pretty sure I'll start losing more if my pvp opponents find out about the 17% cs secret 
it's 16.7% right ?
china seems to know about this very well, at least from my rookie
16.67% yep. There are some other numbers like 15% floating around, but Im not sure
Theorycraft math says 16.67%. By right empirical might need more cause of shooting delays. Idk how 15% came about
yeah 17% should be better
charging time = (1-total charge speed) + some fixed delay
Sweaty pvp
i noted your 2 ideas, thanks for feedback
my current def is this deck
you should try it
Ohhh, was wondering how do you show 3 teams. Realised u can just choose
@tropic summit
Guess I'll try
And skip team 3
sbs gonna die from Rosanna maybe 
the emi team should be against rosanna team and the sbs should be against scarlet but oh well 
CP would be bad in that case
my sbs survived with 40% against rosanna, although it depends on the enemy rosanna investiment
Its a Anis sac 
i'm more concerned on the blanc team because she was supposed to be for their rosanna 
Opponent Rosanna is 3RL
so no sac?
With Anis sac, bumped to 2RL
if they're not running sac then it's a 3RL meant to counter an emilia
Thats why that sly Anis P1 
She's synched
Synced Anis, usually dies in 2 rocket launches
I mean, in level
She didn't died against Scar jack the last time
really? 
regardless echo has a 2RL noah, should be absorbed 🤔
I put my synced Anis as sac though 
the indom revive emi i rly wanna watch the record tho 🤔
Wait, she did but it basically was at the time I got Blanc burst
The idea is there but bad execution
2 RL safe 
huh why dis happening let me inn
SP Arena bug 
I think Rapunzel has died before
let me check records
No confirmed solution. Can try going into union range, hit some mobs and exit. Or enter rookie arena and hit someone else. Try to OFF quick attack and hit normally, then try hitting ur SPA again
More chips coming probably. We’re so cooked
If they have these bugs during CA, gonna be even more apologems 
tf you mean by apologems
just give everyone some more attack attempts


alex wants to see the world burn 
tf you mean
that's literally what they did

"sir people can't do their matches anymore, what we do?"
"eh... give em some free attempts"
"err, to everyone?"
"did i stutter?"
There, the record where Rapunzel fails against Rosanna
give them the attempts in still bugged arena,let's see what happens
and it was the same lineup with blanc emi rapu and biscuit?
Why I can't send it 
This happens
why is rapu p5 
Your Rapun bursts first, then opponent's Rosanna procs, killing Emilia and Rapun (both highest attack), therefore u lose 
nah rosanna hits p1 and attacker
Isn't it due to p3 rosa
rosanna should attack noah and emi iirc
yeah we've got 1 attacker, emilia, so that'd be...
if you put rapu in p3 she should be fine and anis in p5 would get biscuit invulnerability? 🤨
i mean s.anis will already attack p5 proccing biscuit on anis
then rosanna shoots an invulnerable noah and anis
rapu should burst, reviving emi, emi gets indom, emi nukes

2RL
What if Indom goes to Anis
yeah that's the thing
emi revives with 61%, but anis will be 50%, receiving 38%-circa healing from rapu
which should mean anis will be temporarely 80%+ hp while emi is on 60% circa
Did emi die to scar s2 or something?
Maybe they were fed to 2-2.5 rl though feed i guess
so emi on 61% circa HP, anis will be 50% (invulnerable), receiving 30% hp going up to 80%? so emi should be potentially the lowest HP after blanc
as long as both teams are 3RL that's how i'd think it goes 🤔
Looks like feed + scar s2 trigger
It was Rosanna
Enemy Rosanna bursted
Yeah, i was womdering how fast they triggered burst
we need to ensure rapu kicks in after rosanna kill emi and not before tho 🤔
Enemy should be 3rl, but emi feeding
And rls
Triggering scar s2 just enough times to burst faster than 2.5rl

if rosanna burst first it's actually a good thing in this approach
Maybe I just fight Hero
That’s why i like using xmaiden burst over emi when against jackal linked p1


did someone brick their Rapunzel
Keep burst lvl 4 and you never have issues
makes burst to lv10
Do you not have rumani
🧱
level 10... all those skillbooks 
Just out speed and block the snipe
Imagine the brick level
worse than not opening red dust for years
Rapu is reversible at least
Some people don’t want solo raid mald 

I CAN'T
HE'S BUGGED
Uninvested
Not like she needs the besto investment
right, arena is still bugged af 
Ok then, how do I fight Tsubasa then?
Then run an attacker-less comp
even xmaiden dps probably can win it
unbuffed?
maybe
mhm
cindy will still need to live a nuke
how does cp look like if you take in consideration what Eon just said @keen vapor ?
here's a recent vid of something similar, just 2rl noah
unless enemy is actually 2.5rl
here's a better one, noah variant
just depends on their actual speed
are you 2rl here
Yes
noah/centi/biscuit/rumani/xmaiden
On a recent attempt (current Rosanna variation with no Blanc) I got Rosanna burst when I was going to get Blanc burst in 3RL
if xmaiden is enough dmg to kill all 3 linked units you win
Not with that CP 
This was to prove that Tsubasa's Rosanna can kill me
This is current variation
Still needing something for team 1/3
have you tried indom sanis for their noah biscuit
blanc/sanis/rapunzel/biscuit/centi
if not, do it for testing purposes 
record though
this is also quite interesting
also what's the cindy god variant you used that worked?
yes that's why you use centi
give your rapu biscuit centi all endurance if needed
whatever to make sure sanis is lowest def
Noise jackal Cindy emi Noah
how close was it
Almost everyone dead but Noah full HP, so even if 4 died Noah can finish it
Where s the video
It was from another day
Go and repeat
10/10 agreed with rosy, we need that video for science 

My goat fell so hard in 10 days. He used to protect my 1st place by hitting 3rd and 6th. 
might be getting bugged out too
That's crazy, wonder if anyone else has that issue
I experienced the same bug. Sometime certain ppl cant be attacked 
Reminds me of Priconne PVP, you could click on "Start Battle" to open up the battle UI. As long as you had a player's battle UI open, that person couldn't be attacked, you could have a player's UI open for 30 mins without timing out. So the top 10 players in an arena bracket formed a maffia, running a script that kept eachother's battle UI open 24/7, making it impossible to attack them.
It's so over :deadge:
@coarse lake am I brick?
I told you that the first time Noah got aggro
(SBS variant)
someone isn't using resil on sanis
Ok, I forgot to switch that from last overclock
you can try using a clip rl over emilia
But Cindy comp failed 
Nah, clip RL are lower CP, I'm very close already
I'm so done :hu tao why:
t3 use emilia/blanc/rh/tia/jackal (tia slot is anyone that keeps the team barely 3rl, don't use clip rl
then just do a noise noah biscuit of some sort against scar
S.Anis not having instant reload 
eh ig you'll struggle with a team that can reach 2rl there
if only your bscar wasn't trash smh
Can he not get 2 RL Cindy on team 3, and Noah+Biscuit on team 2?
could try that sure
still need t2 to be 2rl with good sustain and good dmg
that's the problem atm
any idea how hard their scarlet nuke hits for
that'll be cutting it super close
and as for dps cindy might be the only option unless you also fit in a b1 buffer
remind me why we didn't run this one?

we fighting with the most cp padded team for some reason 
how fast does their anis die
Echo has to beat him, dude didn't pay the Cindy skin tax
left is echo, right is opponent (they appearently aren't 2.5RL on 1st team)
blanc/rumani/biscuit/centi/cindy should win against their rosa, assuming rumani gets invuln fast enough pre-burst
cindy can't kill cindy with burst
well... ig that's too expensive
just do a 2rl noah
noise/bscar/jackal/noah/centi against their rosa
with your luck your bscar can't kill that team either
skipping the scar blanc team is prob best
noah/centi/biscuit/rumani/cindy against their rosa team
emi/blanc/rh/tia/jackal against their noah biscuit (use someone slower than tia if possible, unlinked ein for example)
cindy matchup will depend on how good your cindy is
cindy matchup will be based on which cindy has better autos dmg, you have a bit of a head start due to invuln stalling for a few seconds into burst
if you make them 2rl then you can tweak team a bit and win even harder, with your cindy having decoy too
but you gotta be a full rl slower
record it, need this data
using echo as guinea pig 
It's not too late to drop like a 100 dollars for 5 more lvls 
so the team is usually faster than 3rl?
that's fine, as long as rumani gets to burst before their cindy, you should be ok
Emi died at the same time she got indom 
That means it works 
Or maybe not, maybe not slow enough
Blanc die pre burst?
Scar s2 + p2 sub damage enough to kill blanc in my experience 
No, I got Indom in the exact moment to not have Indom unit
Indom cast time rip
tf you doing with that
Maiden just bursts all over Emilia
Help 
It keeps doing that
And after waiting a bit and attacking again cycle repeats
Nothing in battle history
It just never starts

Arena remains bugged
You either switch target or switch the teams you attack
Wow so the game outright said "nah you ain't beating him tonight"
I'll just wait to get attacked ig,
Thanks
was this against their noah biscuit
haven't used mine yet and neither have my opponents but that means they will use them in the future
i would rather them give everyone nothing

im already dealing with making them waste their coins 
they should just double pvp rewards for everyone 
I mean it's kinda troll how I lose 25 points in rookie arena for the bug, yet everyone gets the coins
No
I enter deficit and I'll be cautious against that Laplace
GameTime 
This looks dead af
then swap out ein for someone higher cp but isn't linked
don't just use that team against the scar team
Worked
:Emi:
Laplace wasn't that bad
I'll send video in some time
Like next two hours
Now I need to swap my defense a little bit
I'll think something
what happened in the cindy matchup
What team can beat noah-biscuit-sanis-scarlet-noise?
ICBM, else 2RL cindy
worked! Thank you!
the bottom one
oh oki
I could use the top one though
Easy sweep (Rumani took aggro and died tho)
yeah keep it in mind if you ever need a different choice, maybe enemy switches up lineup
It seems that Noah took two Biscuit procs once again
thank you!

that's strange, how's that happening to you 
you guys are so smart here. I dunno how all this tuff works haha
I better don't do Moran Biscuit for my own sanity :deadge:
ok just ping me with vid once you got it
they probably couldn't do enough to centi
which is fine
cindy comps like that have multiple ways for the fight to go that still end up same result
ein as cp filler?
the brick is real
Should I reset ASS? I have found her less and less useful in SpA for me these days...
She is kinda a brick without Noah.
And my OL luck with her is terrible
Currently having her at 10/10/9... I think I could make do with her 8-7-9 or even 10-7-4 and use the books for someone else.
still good for raids
s1 and burst still needed especially there
Yeah, but
who else you gonna use the books for
Hmmm, SBS? She would be good to farm rock everyday.
oh
sbs is definitely more important than sanis
well it's not like you can reset sanis rn anyway

Or maybe I should go all out on S.Anis+Moran team and make them all 10/10/10 SR15 so their CP would be strong enough. Currently their CP is rather subpar and could be CP gapped quite easy on top of slow. 
ASS feed and being super squishy doesn't help with Moran as only protection... I either need to max invest or using them feels terrible
is there a reason why this enemy team attacks position 2 more than any other position?
10/10/9 or 7/7/9
because u put cindy in p1
never put cindy in p1 
10/10/9 ofc... 7/7/9 and she won't even have 100% reload speed.
where should she be then
p3 p4 p5
P4-5
Or just focus your books on SBS
OC reseted today
Idk when reset coming lol.

- cindy's decoy will make the enemy target skip and shoot p2
- cindy's decoy is an additional target that will feed enemy more burst (if enemy RL shoot your p2 they will be hitting 4 targets at once)
if u put cindy p1/p2 you usually make enemy's team faster by 1 RL
@wild badge 
Every 13 days
so its specific for the decoy mechanic? thanks I didn't know that
Gogo
u wanna see what happens when you put cindy in p1
#pvp-arena message
and your opponent knows how to punish you for it
I was building ASS when I play ch34, it was a good idea and since I was the first one in my bracket with her as Main dps the defense was strong too. But they learned how to deal with ASS and now it can't def any more. just like Emilia
so if cindy is in position 4, does that mean that position 5 will be shot instead?
is it a bug or what
p5 will get shot by shotguns on attack
Yeah, if they could kill P1-2-3 instantly so they get to p4 to even skip to p5....

cindy decoy is to her right, so when they aim at it they're already aiming close enough to p2, so they just go to p2
Yeah a bug. Like if you Noah for 3 sec and Noah getting to reload they would come back to hit Cindy.
Cindy is basically bugged in around the first 5 second of the fight
I still use them in defense and works fine but i do not burst with emilia anymore
Yeah who doesn't use Emi 
ok thanks ya'll. I'll pop back in when I run into another bug in pvp 

u're addicted to that rapi emote 

I'm the only one that uses appreciates it 
This team is like won't win unless CP gap in my bracket. 🤔

Or your Biscuit is tanky as hell
Mayne your bracket has more action
Or maybe the bois do not know that team is clearly scar jackable

My other theory is they use defense for attack so they always use scar jack on team 1

So there is no way for them to move scar to team 2
funny thing : im the only one Red Hood less in the bracket
My effective ASS teams were
Moran-Rumani-Biscuit+ASS-Xmaiden. l around 395k
Noise-Bay-Biscuit-ASS-Rumani. I around 400k
Rumani-DKW-Biscuit+ASS-Xamiden. Around 440k
Each got a few def win in before stop successful def again.
and I'm out of ideas for new ASS team.
I'm the only Noah less in my bracket.
And one of the 2 Jackal less.

my effective ass teams:
none
never had to use her on atk, no reason to use her on def
Well, Keripo recommended her in his good comps.
not practical without using noah biscuit, which is quite an expensive comp
and it still needs jackal or a rapu beefy enough to live double buff scar

i'm still scarletless
we're all gimped in some way
Now burn all your ordinary tix and wish for scar
i did, i got 2 jackals nd became jackal's commander instead
Guys in my bracket can't def for shit but they are very good at hitting . Especially like to hit me but I saw they could hit the +40 whale too if they tried..

Waos, thats Bloods dream
they're only good at hitting bc you're missing noah and jackal 
Yes
better get jackal from the ny selector
They could hit the level gapped whale as well. I saw each of them beat him a few time already.
idk what I'll do with mine, if I even wanna, got everyone I want, so it'll be dupe
i know what i'm doing with mine
if within cp range it's not an issue
Get Ein dupe
Follow me for more advices
But sure they like to hit me because I'm Noah less. But other dudes never changed their team... So just beat them with they team they successful before... Sigh.
ny selector
rather get rouge
Its all about sending a message
Noise still one of my first mlb units
well what are you waiting? just go and roll her? 
it can't be that difficult
Rumani just lb0
I did but no luck
imagine not having jackal or noah for over a year though 
Next year will have a serious talk with wallet kun
eh only costs 22 pulls worth
oh no
I'll prob do it instead of skip
Lv0 is enough
I use my Noise in Arena for good effect. You need her 5-7-7 at least before she start working.
Probably i could invrst on her next year
For now i do not have teams for her since the current ones are still defending on sp and they do not use her

Even X.Maiden
why not linked with jackal
I mean she either need to link with Jackal or 2rl team to survive p1.
You mean defending on CP?
Nearly a year for me. That's long enough.
Next year I will continue to be to only Noahless guy in my bracket but Jackal would be enough an improvement
Yeah
@tropic summit @quick lake @coarse lake
leviathan kun going strong still
Campaign slacker 
oh it's here 
Yeah, 374 already
If i could whale 20-30 levels i could be in range
Even with 321 boost i would make it
15,32% CP deficit on that 2nd fight 
yeah naga was good choice there for raw dmg, didn't expect noah to end up with such high hp, prob high biscuit skills
and yeah you don't kill anis fast enough for your cindy team to actually take cindy nuke
I think they have Pstd and didn't want to hit you for some reason. There CP look high enough there... Or those are full of CP padding teams. 🤔
centi did get second invuln though
jesus le christ the naga value at the end
No stat penalty
I could have used Summer Anis tbh
that tick of healing on emilia 
The whale is padding team 3 with 597k , the rest are 520k and 517
although naga almost made you burst too fast
bursting a bit slower means more indom time
C3 and C4 knows ne since we were at the 160 , C3 has nkt even tried haha
i dunno if i'd want to play again the same matchup
feels like a tiny spit could make you lose
makes you wonder if that would be consistant on more runs
Huh : Blanc stare:
naga nearly died to one of bscar's aoes, if she had died you lost
who do you have left that's higher cp than naga and still won't be linked
I got scared for a second. Naga hit second biscuit s2 before icbm
I use crown on flex spot usually
your emi also reloads at bad time, need more ammo
yeah crown could work, more dmg and speeds up reload
Why are you dead set on hitting P4 thou?
And Yeah, use Crown instead of Naga next time. She is much better.
You have Emi team at high CP all along but you kept trying to roll with SBS and lost many times lol
I would be interested to see you use S.Anis to instead of Emi to wn that fight. So do it!
might kill noah faster on the last part due to reload speed being better
although she will need first to kill everyone else
The problem is to kill their whole team in time in the first place. SBS would demolish his team and Naga won't survive to that win.
There is also the fact that ASS being supporter so need more HP on Red to get Blanc buff
And not enough, Burst gen if used with Naga. So still need to use Emi for Regen.
Emi is like the easiest counter to Noah but Echo just didn't want use that option. I remember suggested him in the first place few day ago.


Summer Anis
Quantum 
give her resil or bastion, and use crown ig
Kay 
🤔

It didn't work the last time bc
This
I didn't used Naga last time
Now
Time to level up 
?!?!?!?!
is it happening at last?
oi @umbral crown he's doing it 
5 levels 

Do 20
Well, With crown you won't hit 2nd Biscuit because she doesn't deal that much dmg so even better. Not really sure what you want to say but anyway.
Edit: I guess if you used crown you would be in deficit, right? That explains the 5 level up. 🤔
he win with just normal atk...
i was deceived 
The classic normal attack duel.
Maybe Cindy to p5 and Naga to p3. So you could burst after Scarlet and XMaiden ded
did you
I think he level up 5 times just to use Crown in Emi team and above 15.4 deficit because his crown has lower CP than his Naga.
Solved the math
Sorry for my bad memory. He should have mentioned this before.
I guess.
I've lost those
No, my Crown is higher
I'm an honest person
Bruh then no reason to use Naga instead of crown. None
I won bc of it 
You almost lose because of it.

5 levels wasn't enough
I need to beat Nihilister
341

Here is my current SP (DEF) teams but they get beat up too often, I have all except the not-owned ones in screenshot, which teams I should change?
Rem 
Yeah Rem healing is doo doo for me, I am thinking of using Emma but dont know if thats good idea 
I see, then for that rem team what should I change to?
I was shown Moran stall team before but I got stuck with Rapunzel and Biscuit on another team
What do you guys think of this team comp for attack in Rookie Arena?
one of the cooks will be here soon. Could make
Noah sanis
Scar jack
Cindy biscuit
Depends on what you have invested for burst gen
Noah Summer Anis? can you tell me about it? Summer Anis is one of my stronger units
Something like Noise Noah SAnis XMaiden Rapunzel?
Noah noise sanis biscuit rapunzel
Noah biscuit sanis redhood jackal/clipsg(not noir/sugar)/ clip rl
Noah noise biscuit sanis jackal
Off burst blanc doesn’t do anything
I genuinely do not know who to put there I won't lie
Then Centi
or Blanc before Noah
cindy and scar in same team is kind of weird in general. Their both main thing is bursting to nuke
But Noah and Blanc in same team is weird as well
I was thinking of using Cindy to just tank SR
Generally speaking attack comps depend on defence. Gotta change depending on what you’re attacking
If attacking. You tank sg shots
I had to make a weird team on alt to beat this guy’s def, i haven’t invested in pvp units there. 
It has been 5 billion years since I tried to tackle PVP again
I was just fine staying in Platinum for SP Arena
Just run a mix of these teams when in doubt
But I kinda wanna try and get back at it, at least push a little bit more
So I forgor

I should probably remake my SP Arena teams
Im gonna OL my Bay instead of Rapipi 
whut da brick 
She's trying her best 
Cindy P1 
Hold on, let me show my box
Mlb sanis. I want to be like you 
Like, jokes aside I really do want this to be better so
Bro, I started at Gold Coin Rush
and I SAVED
I got both MLB Summer Sakura and Summer Anis
Sad SSak is mid
cries in 101010 SSak
@umbral crown

Can just send ur full roster. No need select Manu
How?
I mean, it just looks messy in my opinion.
No prob. The whole roster is better
There’s not really that many pvp teams we can generally make, seems you have enough meta units. It helps picking the most invested ones
So Still Exia
How well does Bay actually stop nukes?
Need to make scar comp without jackal 
I'd be fine with running tank comps, I think I used to have one going with just HP recovery and Noah
She stops all single hit nukes, like Scar/BSoda/2B etc. Multi-instance nuke like Cindy/SBS/Emilia counters her shield well
Quiry noise stall 
Yeah, that one
Well, if u want team building help, can just send ur full roster 
But those are like all the units I had?
Hello, can someone help me create a SP defense teams?
I only have one guy who can keep winning cause his nikkes were 20 levels higher than mine but, recently another one (with the same level as my nikkes) keeps winning against me. I just want my defense win against the second guy.
My cubes level were: 10 for resil, 8 for bastion, 7 for quantum
Here's my box:
T1: Blanc SAnis Biscuit Pepper Centi
T2: Noah Centi Cindy Laplace Noise
T3: Auto the rest
Please sync BSoda and Drake!
Uninvested bsoda 
T1 need b1
Rheax might be a fraud
🫑
Oops thanks 

Do not make me say the word


Have you ever used Ssakura with 2 buffers against iron units? Or as sub dps?

Yeahh, she’s pretty good. Just need 2 buffers so hard to fit some times 
CP would probably be cooked here though 
Its an gold key few people know
Hm thats true. Do u use Indom SSak? Cause her dmg takes a while to fully proc
K will fund me to C7 her next summer
Who’s going to fund me 
I used to in rookie, but not in sp since she is missing some OL
The bad luck is hitting me
Rheax
Pre-200 sync cooks always hard 


I really like SSak, but she’s so slow and need 2 buffers. Typically Blanc is used here too. Only scary Iron B3 is RH which I dont see so often these days
No Stall Comp? 
Maybe will try to cook some Rosanna + SSak teams 
Not sure if i can
what's a RH and where can I get one? she's good at dodging me
Noah noise sanis kind of stall 
Maybe you could cook somethig for team 1 and team 3
Noah dodged me for 2 full years 
Noah was my very first pilgrim 
Pull issues
I pulled her like 2 months in
Prefereably want noise to have more cs so noah has taunt prio in that comp
Still no jackal till now
You can join bloood
Jackal soon
jackal selector
Use the ny selector
New york selector 
ies
Im might choose Bay for the selector 
To get the first copy 

Forced to pick tia. Raid meta slave
after breaking wall I used all silver mileage for MLB Noah 
Real.isssues
I have no quiry too 
Would build stall comp, but dh the units 
Not Emilia 
Rosanna Moran first row 
🧱

Rheax is bricked
Rosanna investment?
Praying so hard for Emilia rerun probably not coming
I want rerun for emi gacha skin
if CA puts me with people who started earlier with Emilia or Sanis I'm ded 
- to look like a whale*
The whel skipped
7/7/10
36.76% atk
1 black ammo
SR5
Im just a little fish
Emilia/SAnis non havers in shambles
Sanis will rerun next year at random points
I think

Ye thats what they said in dev notes
probably, we have no news about xrupee and xanne though
they might take their time to re release them
I bet they will be rerun during CA release
Soon 
They already rolled out ca bugs 
Ein investment?
Will still have no sr15 lap+ 
If CA runs alongside SPA, means u can get both SPA + CA rewards
more rewards than SR
Big stonk
More pvp mald 
Then we have to check sp, rookie and CA
SR5
7/7/7
11.11% atk
pvp invest > SR invest 

No lifing x3 
Exactly. More rewards, probably Dia and frames
sp already hell

I’ll work on getting my Lap to 4x ele atk cs…. eventually 
12/12 
yeah, especially if people start late it's not worth investing in SR imo, 3% will come with time on its own while pvp is always here for 3k gems
Whats the cp for:
Scarlet/Noah/Rosanna/Centi/Jackal (against 2B)
Skip
Blanc/Ein/Red Hood/Emilia/SBS (Against Privaty)
We are already getting more gem in SpA... So that won't change. But maybe they could make SpR then CR.
Costs like 300-400 rocks or something i think
reset stats where it gets crazy
No jackal no
Yeah in a way. Barely anyone invests in pvp
ez 3k gems
tbf, my bracket after shuffle has less tryhards, before shuffle there were 2 giga whales 
Pvp units kinda cheaper. Raid units 4ele 4atk. Pvp is just 4x cs 
like, my acc is 4 months old. idk how long it will take to actually get SR 3% unlike pvp gems so I dump my OLs in pvp units 
1 line of ol= 🧱
Pvp powercreep also much slower
we barely have that many units
CA giving dolls would be nice too
I saved after Rouge and pulled Rumani when pulling for Cindy 
yeah doll economy sucks, I reroll dispatch but RNG still sucks
So i can finally use nero moran 
anyone have vids with noah biscuit jackal cindy vs emi nuke, ping me with vid
Must have Jackal?
yes
and the 5th unit should be clip rl preferably
as long as emi nuke bypasses noah invuln
Doubt I have any
Havent used Jackal with cindy in forever
a setup with rumani instead of jackal is fine ig, will still be somewhat useful
Finding out the timings of Noah vs Emilia?
no I'm figuring out if biscuit has any value
Oh against Emi’s nuke hmm
do you have a vid with only 2 buffer emi
Not i 
biscuit need to be equipped with tempering and lv15 doll nowadays
Imagine ...


Good point
Biscuit just... dies
Biscuit and cindy if linked, cindy could maybe survive long enough 
If s2 targets her
I’d don’t test much icbm against jackal bisc for that reason 
Has anyone tried:
Moran Bay Scarlet Centi Rumani 
Imagine having scarlet 
Im planning to get Bay just to test this comp
Bay shares dmg to the entire team, means scarlet s2 procs 5 times per hit 
Against?

Probably against any team. Might lose to Cindy, can probably win scarlet teams'
There are not scar teams in rookie
The Bay dmg sharing + scarlet s2 intrigues me 
Everyone burstin with emi
Probably loses to scar blanc 
Why though, its so weird. Emi is so easily countered
And emi vs bay =
Hm yeah maybe 
There’s some bay teams that survive emi nuke. But i don’t have her invested so don’t know about her much
weak
unbuffed scar, little sustain
They run : Noah/Biscuit/Emi/Laplace+/Red Hood
Noah/Emi/Red Hood/Biscuit/Jackal
Noah/Jackal/Cindy/Emilia/Centi
I tried this (no invest though, just 4/4/4 Moran) and scarlet couldn't kill shit
But 12 bullets, 5 nikke damage share means 12*5 = 60 procs. 30% x 60 = 18 s2scarlet procs means like 2.4k% from scarlet 2s 
Ban Scarlett from pvp when 
just... do ok dmg to the team that isn't a nuke and you kill it
Focus on Ein
Not so much of scarlet nuke, but rather 5x proccing scarlet's s2. Moran + Bay tank until s2 skills them off
10/10/10
Also not instant
She has many uses , not like SBS but still
let me ask you this, how strong is a scar jack without sustain b2 or offensive b1
Cindy nuke could still threaten though I think
Blocked by noah if 0.5 rl faster probably 
this comp is no different, just a worse version
Yep definitely Cindy can counter
just noah and/or noise with ok dps and you win
Noah+Biscuit. Noah alone can not handle double buff Ein
even blanc works
Isnt Noise Scar Noah Jack god comp also unbuffed scarlet?
no one runs that god comp, weak, obsolete
they cooked with Rapi song for the event, just checked it ingame 
Need norah moran biscuit nuker 
Really..? 
no uses cases I can think of that other teams cannot do for much cheaper
In my mind, I was think Moran + Bay can survive most nukes. MIGHT survive Cindy, will def survive scarlet
I think godscar can beat god scalter with s2 if high dr 
Frees up jackal to go elsewhere 
a random pve team with ok team positioning and 3rl wins
by the time the enemy gotta deal with counters your team is already like seconds from dead
Hmmm. I would have thought Moran + Bay would have more survival 
without biscuit bay is nothing
Yep
moran needs hyper invest or biscuit, and even then, rest of your team will die before moran dies
Moran bay biscuit scar jackal
moran linked
I have tried something similar. Unbuff Scarlet could be pretty strong after having enough time to max 5 stack s1.
But the bigger problem is that she dmg herself. So she could die before bay even with the dmg share reducing most dmg.
got no dmg, got solid sustain if you can kill them with counters fast enough
too expensive for what it does
Hmm thats true as well
indom dps wins bc you do not get double invuln
if moran is high enough invest (def mostly), could maybe work, but it'll be moran carry
2 RL
Lemme just say this.
I have tried
Moran+Bay+ASS+Centi+Scar
Before.
And Scarlet always ded even if no one attack her. When I won, it was from ASS damage not Scar counter.
Scar blanc rumani crown jackal 
Thats pretty interesting. Thank for sharing. Looks like the team was not meant to be 
Wanted to make infinite reload for scar. But too slow, too much feed. And don’t have 
Just have optimal ammo lines
Also better off running standard double buff scar in that situation
fix ammo to 3rl whiff
Change noise to (sr)anis then swap position with biscuit?
🙏🏾 thanks
T1, Bring SBS out p1, equip Red Hood with Vigor.
T2, eh
T3,.... You sure you want to do this? I sure don't. Do a 3rl Cindy wipe is better.
But you could try
Redhood needs vigor in P5?
RH need vigor to have higher HP than Sbs
Oh, I see for the indom skill
t1 I won by replacing sbs with emilia, and kept it like that
t3 won with this, its 3RL so I killed them faster and had just enough time to focus s.anis's shots on cindy
forgot to put vigor on, RH at some point had lower hp than my emilia after changing but luckily the indom kicked in at the right time so it went to emi
They are linked so they will receive same amount of dmg. So whoever has more HP at the start has more HP at the end.
oh shiet I confused myself lol
but I watched their HP
blanc's b2 kicked in when RH had less hp than emi
ehh not gonna hurt my head aymore, I'll just make sure whoever b3 always has less hp than RH then
excuse me but how does pvp work?
I don't have it unlocked yet but I'm curious if you can do one on one battles
its called rookie arena, 1 team only
sp arena is where its 3v3
thank you terry☺️
isn't rapi not released yet?
oh guess not
this is prolly the bug that causing ppl's cindy and sbs to do 0 dmg in other content
but it's really nice if they are fixing like this
so there won't be any bug when the char actually released
Gonna have bugs even after release too 
compensation
?
i hope not
There won't be this bug but there will be that bug 
4 sp and 10 rookie attempts again so I wake up with 200 atks on rookie history 
ScarBlanc dmg 

There are days when I forget to do rookie altogether
there used to be days you spent gems to get extra attempt on rookie, how times have changed 
i actually started taking rookie arena a little bit more seriously because some people there actually running the sp arena teams they use
they allowing me to figure out how to beat those teams
with those 5 free attempts a day
ah yes, the silly mistake of revealing your cards on rookie
i'm rotating 3 standard teams that everyone uses/knows on my bracket and still earn some defense wins 
i just run a meme 2rl cindy comp that u'd never see in sp arena

jackal cindy on the same team
2RL s.anis 
2RL Blanc Emilia 
1.5 RL privaty 
0.5RL Rosanna 
maybe i should put my max core privaty to good use
cindy p1 🫵 
1RL with cindy in p1 
@wild badge if u need more evidence to never put cindy in p1 here u go 
cindy in p1 is free memes time
losing to privaty team 
3.5 seconds stun 
We need to bring back Soline killing team mates meme back 
I'm basically doing a campaign team with Laplace+ and Emilia add in and still score defense wins.
I successfully made them use their mail gold chips, time to retreat 
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1_0Nj1a_fxNaRtVEqbssZXZ0q5ycw5naDfHSj1qOIiVY/edit?gid=1355235657#gid=1355235657
Found a JP guy's pvp calc sheet
Snipe them before reset for maximum pain.
Anyone aware of what the rocket launcher bug is after PvPing?
I think there used to be a bug (or myth) where all OL CS lines are applied team wide aka RL units. Has since been fixed
@unborn latch
Damn wow
I'm surprised that the code between game modes is so intertwined for that to be possible in the first place
Thankye
Did they finally fixed that?
1 more hour before RRH banner

Yeah. Though you can whiff on scar reload and cindy in p1 get’s target skipped by non shotguns
https://imgur.com/a/tZZWNyc could I get some help on teams vs this guy and maybe defense team update since it has been a while ? specific teams please ,no 5 sg +3rl+3whatever stuff cuz my little brain goes kaboom , I was using teams a guildmate made for me but he's not doing pvp anymore lol , units are sorted by power and I have other units outside of sync but I dont think any of those are relevant in pvp
I got a Rumani dupe 














