#pvp-arena
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nah, he doesn't really know how to play this game well. just throws money at the game

well you could run a few unconventional bait teams
i've got a few ideas you could try
i don't run any of my sp arena team in rookie so my opponent cant practice against me
i run some stupid comp in rookie
my rookie comp atm because i need to lose points to access more people lineups
I think I'll try improving my anis and rumani if they die early, at least getting 3 stats for cp padding and lvl5 all of the gear
Then you are done
switch sanis with scarbs?
would improve anything?
seems like she has almost the same burst gen, I can definitely try
Sanis has instant death when facing Drunk Scarlet
its the easy defeat
so you think I'm losing the last one because of scar comp? I see, well I'll try
try these bad bois if you wanna go unconventional, it might win for a while on def
scarlet centi rosanna rumani jackal
ein blanc sbs anis emi
noah biscuit s.anis rapu crown
temperance on noah
vigor on biscuit, rapu, blanc
quantum on centi rumani jackal (mandatory for 2.5RL bait)
quantum on anis
Sbs is instant defeat against defender+biscuit or sakura
everything has their counters
i'd roll, lol
does SBS do enough damage without buffer tho?
Maybe it's finally the day I use 1000 gem on rerolling dispatch for nothing.
it has blanc buffing and debuffing
plus SBS buffs herself quite a bit
you'll force them to waste biscuit on that one
sbs don't need buffer
that would be an impressive level of bad luck, lol
oh not your comp, what problem suggest lol
yes, but if you bring Alice it coul be better


just bring Quincy alter, Prydwen says she is SS tier 
there's one issue, my rosanna is 1/1/1 
well, RIP bait T1 
just go 2RL scar on that team
scarlet centi rh anis jackal
the t2 just change it back into cind 2.5 or 3RL 
reset her, I heard she lost her edge because of SR dolls and I need grave max skill for the solo raid 
I guess I'll re upgrade her on the next skill reset if needed
Game is mocking me. I would stop for today. Zero rock from Kraken as well.
well if your meta teams are losing, you def. wanna try a different approach
the things that generally work is catching opponent by surprise with unusual 2.5RL or 2RL
or very sustain oriented 4RL
there's always tomorrow, for even worse luck obviously
I sacced 200 tickets for this footage.
Biscuit just takes it
enemy team is 3 RL too with like 90 energy at 2.5 RL, so Noah should never be online
hmm rocket whiff?
cindy delay should be within 0,5 but from 3.1RL to 3.82RL should be a big frame enough to not matter
hence that's indeed suss, probably a whiff 🤔
oh nvm looks like it's just delay issue afterall, you killed biscuit and hit jackal before noah got to B2
scarlet/pmaid etc might've killed, but cindy suffers from delay issue 
yeah, looking at their HP, it's just fast enough to hit Biscuit and Jackal once
but generally if Cindy is 1 full RL faster than Noah, it goes through
but vs this team it doesn't
it's Noise and Anis linked, so I'm not particularly feeding Jackal, only 3.55 energy
mhm... well strange if anything, but cindy is kinda like that
gets weird sometimes on those multi hits
Anis' last ammo tech hits Cindy's decoy at 2.5RL, wonder if it generates like infinite energy 


I got 4 of those gear exp :worry pat:
GEAR EXP
NOT EVEN DOLL MATS
sir calm down, we cook meals here 
I'M HUNGRYYYYYY 
WELL THEN GET SOME FOOD


Thank you
Aye, you're quite welcome
I feel like I'm consistently losing to even power ranking matches. Could someone help me team build?
But, for attack we need target info 
noise centi cind laplace pepper
blanc scarlet rh anis noir
SBS alice xmaiden rumani grave
note: put anis in synchro, doesn't need to be invested
cubes:
quantum on anis, rumani, centi
vigor on cind, noise, blanc
any other nikke give em highest lvl cube
Where's Noah 
there's no noah, no jackal, laplace isn't treasured and anis is not even synchro
i'm in pain, but it's done
:deadge: 🪦
Someone stole echo job in pvp again 
🪦
That 1 shit emote cropping
who made this, they suck
(not me)
Target
please
Railtracer, thank you so much. I really appreciate you taking time to do that and yeah it's been so rough without those key Nikkes.
no worries, go with these for now, once you find jackal/noah/biscuit get them revised 
i dont see biscuit either
and also reset everything that's lv 60/lv 40 at the bottom those are wasted resources
So much resets to do 
Any suggestions on what to change with these teams? My ladder has started getting active and it's been rough finding a consistent defence against even lower level players. 
My more ready Nikke's are on the 4th SS.
Cmon echo u can do this, all he needs to do is just shift some units around
positioning and synergy issue
I can imagine.
Mica
?


I'm joking
Swap Noise with Anis (purple)
Then swap Noise and Rapunzel positions.... Then.....
I wonder if is possible
2RL in two teams with no Mica
Turns out it wasn't a joke
Did Mica become meta overnight?
In Keripo account, always has been 
It requires Emilia with 4 black charge speed lines
Echo answer his question u're going offtopic 
Why he did use :poggies : does he have Emilia with 4 black charge speed lines? 
I wish
I went for Rem back in that collab
big mistake gameplay-wise
Rip
🪦

I have this alternative without Mica, but I need to rework Emilia team then
good,no more fire in the kitchen
the room is charred at this point
t1 noise centi cindy xmaiden rumani
t2 noah biscuit sanis rapunzel laplace(treasure)
t3 scarlet blanc redhood anis jackal
check CP of those teams if they're too low, those are pvp units u need to overload
Will do. Thanks for the templates and help.@keen vapor @vapid lake
i hope ur noise can survive being in p1 on cindy team
I'm not sure about 3 RL Cindy 
his opponent will be forced to use noah against scar jackal
Moran can 
Gonna take a while, but they'll most likely be the unit I work on next.
Spoiler: it won't
It will be new year unit
Shift Up
its too many releases
Shift uuuuuuuppp
We need 10 skip banners or more resources 
It's neither 

10 meta units in a row 
Even K? 
All clip rl 
Not K 
Yeah it's oK 
Problem is skill mats 
i hope we get skill reset event on ny
full burst week like last time
Any good PVP comps I could use? I know Tia and uh Centi is good for PVP that is abt it
I have Trony and Bad D so assume they are useless
Not Tia specifically
Wdym?
She isn't meta unit per se but RL units in general have good burst generation, which is good for teams
Ah okay
I'm not sure I can cook more than one team 
1 is fine I need to update my team 2 anyways on regular PVP just give like placeholder round 2 and 3
Bc I haven't updated those since like week 1 of playing 
Centi/Zwei/Cinderella/Anis/Tia
Oh I'm dumb lol
I also got
Noir, MLB Rupee, Biscuit, Anni Rapunzel and Snow, Folkwang, Quiry, Maiden, Cocoa, Rosanna

Why Anis is she shockingly good for PVP?
Yes
Welp time to plop her in the synchro
She's clip RL, which are top in burst generation
I see
Standard RL is just mid in comparison
I better request full screenshot for Nikke tab from lobby
so I'm sure you didn't forget more units 
Don't kill me!

There
Okay
Wait, I'm working on it

Can you invest on Ein?
Is Alice full overload? She has 2 charge speed lines?
I mean I can but uh idk what full overload means 
Do you have overload gear in Alice yet?
She has T9
Are Alice skills 10/4/10 yet?
No but working on it slowly
Sad, you shouldn't have exchange for swid
Should have just grab that Rapunzel copy
Too late :deadge:
I got the game like 4 days before Anni ended give me a break 😭
So if we invest in Ein we can't finish Alice 
We're in a hurry


My income for mats is slow atm bc can't do the mode to get more yet but doing my best 😭
But you can do 5C right?
I can I think I'd probably get bodied but idk
Try 
Try with Tia/Liter/Naga/Ein at 444 in skills and Cinderella
Alrighty
For simulation room
Cindy is other that was invested in a bit she's at 7-4-7
Swap biscuit and SBS positions
I would use Mica as B1 there 
Complete
Mica 
Well I completed it way below recommendation and now overclock has me confused
4 RL also works tbh
Simulation room has no stat penalty when below recommended CP, as opposed to campaign or towers
Ah so why did you have me do that?
To farm better
And invest better in units
To finish any meta unit as needed
I cooked this, I tried to make 3 teams but failed in the process so for Alice team press auto
I had to use Ein in first team
Alice makes it too slow :deadge:
I'm not sure how overclock works I struggled to push past 5c
You select options to make the clear more difficult (less time, team requirements) and you get extra mats
Alrighty any tips for it?
Since you're just capable of doing 5C is probably better to not worry about overclock yet
Focus on getting Liter to 10/4/10, Tia skill 1 to level 7, Naga something 7/4/5 at least (you can eventually max her out), Alice 10/4/10 and Cindy 10/7/10
Ein can stay as 7/7/7 the longest 
Got it
you dont really need to
you hoard though

T1: Liter+Centi+Anis+Rouge+Cindy (3rl)
T2: Maiden+Marciana+Rossanna(skill 2 to lv4 at least, ideally 4/4/4)+Noir+Rupee (4RL, sacrifice)
T3: Folkwang+Purepunzel+Biscuit+Alice+XMaiden (4rl, stall)
After you upgrade Naga+Tia for campaign, could swap them to Marciana and Rupee places.
Edit for T2:
Maiden+QuencyEQ+Marciana+Rossanna+Noir if you want better B3.
Noir is for Regen and buff Rossanna.
Higher attack buff and same nuke damage with stun effect
Folwang trigger on Rossanna and Noir keeping them survive to continue if anyone still alive left.
Just throw Rosanna out 
Still, the reason why I didn't attempted that is bc of lower CP
And he's walled so we better CP pad 
I added all his 9 strongest CP units.
Into 3 teams.
Rosanna and Noir so weak 
Okay it was Marciana trigger to heal team, not Folkwang on Alice. My bad.
They could wipe just fine at his level.
His level is walled 
If anymore survive then just normal attack them to death.
Well, he didn't even hit 160 so it's fine.
He should, it's been 2 events since he started
so you can imagine how his bracket looks like
Then there is nothing he could do about that. At least he has a fighting chance now with 3 decent teams of defense. 
Auto and hope for the best 
..... I FORGOT
@jagged schooner Please buy event stamina and farm 1-11 in event's hard mode
Core dust very important
just whel
Oh I already know that
impressive
He could try Privaty/QuencyEQ but like you said, auto and hope for the best, I tried to squeezed his 9 strongest units into the build.
I watched uh Psyche guides before playing

Basically said "I was a dum dum and always took battle data boxes and uh had no core dust"
@jagged schooner
I just edited T2 of my build. I'm done. Later.
It's been a while since I recommended his guides
good times
Any counters?
Don't have Noah(Kill me) and Makima
Makima-less so bricked. I can't help. 
Outdated now I presume?
came back after a while and i forgot how to build team properly lmao, dealing with FYP and left nikke abandon for a month
Both are fairly simple, you can prolly scarlet Blanc the first one and biscuit + defender on the last one
Kind of
Like, we have a whole new Interception now
Any other guides now?
can you give me the full team, kinda forgot how to build
Prolly nikke.gg or prydwen
What's your full box like?
Scarlet-Xanne-Red Hood-Noir-Jackal => 1st team
Blanc-Biscuit-Noise-Centi-Cinderella => 3rd team
Check CP deficit
You should be able to win this
Check CP deficit yeah
Cause I can see his CP is relatively high compared to yours
Noise Blanc stall team 
Maybe should have do S.anis
40k and 30k Deficit
Should be fine right? actually how do you really check how bad the deficit is, didnt really need to check before since i was in a comfortable position and was over every1
Since it's stall game anyway kewk
CP deficit wise it's fine
Can check pinned comment to know
This
@queen mango
Sorry caishen for the tag
Ah icic , aight ima take a look at it
no worries. Glad the pin is getting some use
-# r.i.p. zixk
How's the run? U won?
What team u looking to put her in? 
Scarlet team for example 
Who needs Anne anyways
I MISSED HER FOR ONE YEAR
I COULD HAVE HOARDED SSR SELECTOR IF I PULLED MICA THAT TIME
yea manage to won, appreciate the guide
you would also need to invest in her gear and skills though...
I would just for her title 
waifu>meta
Mmmmm no
wait st- 
Dew it
Lewd thoughts only
XMaiden, just use the cheap Pepper for your 2RL Scarlet team
For Xmica you should prepare to max her out.
Also, XMica has her usage. Mainly for Champions Arena
She's the only high burst gen B1 buffer
hey guys. recomendation for arena? if you have another nikke i can max upgraded it
i usually go red hood, Sanis and alice but not sure if its okay
Rookie Def
Noah-Noise-Scarlet-Rapunzel-Jackal
do I have to reverse the order of my team for defender team?
I use the same attacker and defense teams for everything
Def, I switch up after losing to many.
But turning out I haven't need to majorly change my attacking line up for awhile. Just move some Nikke for CP or burst gen was enough to beat different peeps... Defense line up all look the same after awhile...
Is tia ol worth for pvp?
She only have niche use. Of slower the team speed or taunt without needing to burst.
So low prio
Buff Rossana as well but ofc slow Rossana speed ..
Only realistic use is delay burst
You usually run with biscuit since you prob need it
So tia just wants cp if pvp use
Well 2 taunter to counter ASS as well in some team. Slower burst speed is as rare as it can be.
Just switching Nikke instead.
Much better options out there than tia
That don't require enemy Sanis getting hit by tia
Tia is a defender that people build for raidnanyway
What is more convenient than that?
Not relying on 2 taunter to begin with
Tia doesn't need to hit anyone to taunt.
Oh right, full taunt after 5
Tia doesn't need ol for raid
Tia is more convenient than Moran as off burst taunter I would say
Problem is you gotta still win the fight
Moran can stall after biscuit runs out
Same with nero
Tia can't
Arena automatically need to OL with the new CP mechanic. You either over leveling your bracket or your bracket just not very competitive.
I mean yeah, technically any unit you use in Pvp for any reason wants ol simply due to cp
2 taunter is a meme setup, no real value in it, other teams can win with less invest
Delay... Haven't seen a good reason for a while
I mean sure but she is Mag RL at least, better burst gen and doesn't feed.
You're using tia on atk anyway, feed isn't issue
Simply put, skip ol unless you got nothing better to build
Use cases too niche, unless using her purely for gen
If missing multiple rls, that is a valid use case
Need help building better sp arena team
I guess you don't have Centi, Rumani or Anis built? It's kinda the best you could do with your built PvE Nikke I guess...
Maybe replace Noir with XMaiden in team 2. Swap Noise and Noah in team 3. Make Noah higher CS than Noise.
Not really
Otherwise, I would keep the team as is. Good enough I guess.
Nah i have to change something cause these two guys keep challenging me over and over making me waste my gems
post your box
Track their log in time and snipe them. You could change your def but it wouldn't last long when people know how to attack.
You could check pin. Keripo post and "arena test matrix" or something. Copy 3 teams.
Let them fight each other's and attack when the sleep.
are you running quantum on noir? or is it on purpose 3.5RL T2?
bro the thing is im at challenger 6 and they constantly go between clallenger 8 and diamond 1
21% CS emi
they always challenge me and its so annoying it would be way smarter if they just battled it out for challenger 8
@spare nimbus do you've emi on 21% charge speed?
i only have 2.28 charge speed on her 💀
I doubt it make a difference for 3rl lol...just put Quantum on Noir instead
yeah well we found an issue at least 
seb T2 unless noir is quantum aswell or emi is 21% is a 3.5RL, if emi gets killerino before 3.5RL there goes your emi indom
i'd start by fixing that one and see if anything changes, after that you could be running a 2.5RL or 2RL rosanna instead of a 3RL and maybe a slower delayed emi 4RL
switching from indom oriented to rapu oriented
i'd then put indom in another team
What is the cut off of your unit with OL gears?
its all over the place
some units with no OL have like 10k cp more than ones with 4 OL
centi is the last with 2 OL
Also list which RL in your box have over 10% charge speed?
The ones with 1-3 OL are viper jackal noise rapunzel xanne xmaiden exia grave biscuit centi
Everything past centi no OL
Okay really you are not needing this comment, my bad, but good to know.
MW rosanna rapunzel are the only ones above 10%
Our god and saviour Railtracer! ♥️ I won't interrupting ya this time.
hardly any saviour 
start by fixing this: #pvp-arena message
and see if anything changes, if still losing it might be a good idea to try and proceed with what I suggested after 
Why u gemming in spa 
Just gem and win
Just whel
Just
if you had bought the 30-day upgrade supply since it released, you would be 30 levels up on everyone
why not, better then gemming in rookie
Definitely 
Team 3 bursts way too fast. I believe it's 2.5RL without looking at the calculator so replace Rapunzel with biscuit and Laplace with Redhood.
Or Twinkling Soda, Redhood, Viper, Emelia, Noir. They all target P5 in an instant. Please invest though
That gives you Blanc for the scarlet team
it's not 2,5rl
I'm on mobile at the moment so can't access spreadsheet without the app
this thing isn't even 2 rl with clip rl
try to do scarlet/blanc/rh/laplacet/jackal, Noah/noise/s.anis/rapunzel/biscuit, centi/anis/rumani/Cinderella/xmaiden
is this winnable? 
Would you change the DEF lineup if only 1 annoying guy hits you down from 1st to 3rd? I always get back my spot because that guy frequently bounces between 3rd and 6th and everyone else fails their attacks on me
depends, does it matter to you? you could but also could just keep staying between ch1 and ch3, reward is the same
t2 is just padded, t3 is copium, t1 is the only legit team
do a CP padded team with p1 defender and biscuit against their t2
as for t3 just unleash your cindy team with jackal, make sure cindy is in p3 or p4 or p5
I don't think I have a biscuit, do I?
didn't look tbh, whats your padded team like?
Nah I don't really care. As long as it's only 1 who can actually knock me down. If it's multiple and if I get lower than top 3 I would care. It's just a matter of if I should prepare for that case or not
idek what padded means 
i think you're best sticking to ch2 and ch3, one less enemy making you waste attempts is a good thing
it means auto and getting the highest CP available 
my highest cp around 123k
I got attacked way more when I was 3rd
I just don't want my bracket to suddenly tryhard vs me
good, then we can work with that
that's with this btw
ok let's see
make these 2 teams and put them against their t2 and t3 and let's see how you do in CP
t2
cind centi liter anis noir
t3
grave centi pmaid rh rumani
@orchid birch ^
what centi

where u see centi xd
you said it in both teams 

kinda short on batteries eh, oh well t2 is gonna be 4RL, they don't burst anyway 
and yes copy paste put centi instead of jackal hold on
centi instead of jackal 
Railtracer is gold! 
gold pvp gang
those screenshots sent me in bluescreen
go with these #pvp-arena message
4RL against their t2 and 3RL against their t3, check CP and send that first so we see if you in deficit
yeah let's try raise a bit your t3, put alice instead of pmaid
checking CP deficit
ah
you're still 20% deficit on t2 against their padded one 
have to
their third team is 66k
check CP on these 2
put liter in p1 and grave in p2, just for safety measures, then you ready to go
t2 goes against their padded team, t3 goes against their SBS
nice, but you should be challanger, don't stop 

then there're these people 100k power above
I don't think I can do any more attacks 
Whaling moment
tbf they're all past wall so
your main concern there is gonna be CP difference
get 5 MLBs asap then you can start bullying them
cind grave rh alice jackal, you'll receive feed on p5 from a shotgun, and in p1 from a rifle
meanwhile opponent will receive feed on p1 from rifle... but they've 3.5RL against your 4RL... it's gonna be risky 
gold=no aura
what are the other options?
not at all
oh? 🤨
he'll get more than enough feed to get propelled into 3rl in 2,5rl time
90 bullets*3,55
@orchid birch well there you go 
if i understood it right, you'll jump from 4RL into 3RL, correct @lunar dirge ?
In fact
I'm pretty sure it'll be 3rl vs 3rl
seems like a bit of a yolo, although CP difference in favour
although he's running alice and rh together with cindy, on atk% i think jackal won't be linked with cinderella
p1 may not receive feed from rifle, although you still receive feed on p5 with jackal from their SG noir
it's still a gamble 
just post their 3 teams and your box, there might be better cards to play tbh
with that order?
cind grave Rh alice jackal
lesgoooooo
record it 
ripperoni
no Noah?
I don't think so
and no blanc
literally 0 sustain?
I have blanc
indom RH or alice 
Blanc rh xmaiden rumani jackal
CP gonna get buttfked with that one tho
indeed
Do you see any pre burst damage there?
He'll be fine at 90k
Cp
@orchid birch feel like running this?
He needs 88,83k cp to not get gappef
refresh you'll find it 
We offered you new team
position are changed to get feed on both p1 and p5
you can try tomorrow anyhow
smth for this? 
modernia alone will propel you into 2 rl
same lineup as before #pvp-arena message
with jackal in p1

you'll get feed in p1 from modernia and grave, that's MG + AR
this team or previous one?
this one
seems like that feeding isn't doing what expected 
although it might be just a cind investiment difference
this only has 81k btw
just run blanc rh
bruh
I'm soooorry 
it's all about learning 
I'm learning that I'm not stronk 
you'll never be, i've been underdog since account creation
unless you use thy wallet
show us your CP of alex's team against this one
if I mirror *
yeah 23% cp deficit
hence the reason of earlier i guess
jackal grave cind rh alice, you running this against it right?
that's what I got smacked with
Why didn't you pull Emi?
because i was still a newbie without checking stuff on discord/nikke.gg/prywden and assumed a collab character couldn't possibly be a pvp arena powerhouse 
hmm you could mirror it, but it's roulette 
is more fun that way 
Could be worse, you create the account at the day the banner end. But some people got her and you didn't.
yeolo 
oh yeah that'd be even worse
my cindy won 
investiment difference 
wat abt this team
this is jackal paradise, go for it
the one w grave cind rh alice?
everytime you see multiple SMGs/MGs just use your jackal cindy team
okae
down 4k cp lol
oh you're fine then
for a moment i believed you 
I'm doing it.
someone among us used to do that afterall (clearly not @swift mango )

as long as you don't use mg or sg,you good
oh wait the rewards are garb anyways in rookie 
gems are also garb, it only gives virtual goods
I guess my only play is to try to keep pushing for 5 mlb
ye that should be your main focus
once you're past wall, it's gonna be get campaign done
I think it'll happen at the new year pilgrim
Rossanna s2 lv7+. Team could be 2rl if noise ded at 2rl. Scarlet team is 2.5rl with feed, could move Jackal to P1 and Viper to p5 in case Scarlet is unlinked. Give you another team. Like you asked.
I'd Mica 
I don't have enough rocks
i'm actually planning on 4/10/7 xmica

I will only build her when we have confirmation release date for CA
y'know
ny pilgrim first
You have her 

then laplacet
And got 3 SSRs 
then moran
First time ever
Same 
and then xmica xanne at the same time
Still no signs of xanne
WTHECK
After what 
Cuz 1 bro wanted 9th
C5 safe 
do you guys think this team formation is in the correct order or do i need to rearrange again and swap some nikkes in/out
Alice might die on p5...
Mmmmm wrong 
Cinderella shouldn't be close to the end, put her like P3 still cooked ngl
shotgun team weird for me lol
did you get RL team rating? (how fast it will burst)
Wasted Biscuit 
Cinderella team looks like will never burst. Alice team probably 3-4RL. idk about the shotgun team, probably 4RL or 3RL with Jackal feed....
no i just putting it out there first time actually focusing on PVP so its all new to me, previously i just simply place nikke what ever
So Wong was wrong
2nd team hardly work. Maybe Maiden to p1. Cindy p5.
Oi, Biscuit 
is your guys 3rd team always mid
i wish i could use most of my invested pve units 
at the beginning, yes
probably better to have some tanky or high combat power team for team 3 after you build 2 usable teams
your 3rd team will be the least invested for a while
you only need 2 teams to win
some people just troll with the third team, like having Crow alone lol
what do it mean 3RL: 30 , i know 3 RL means 3 rocket launcher shots but what does 30 means ??
maybe if you are a whale and have focused on pvp later on you can balance all teams to counter enemies
RL on pvp is used to calculate how many times RL attack until you can burst
the more RL shots needed, the worse as you don't burst
it's about burst gen
idk where you got the 30
its just an example, does that mean that the higher the value of 3RL the better the nikke burst gen. 30 is just the burst gen number example
no
...
the least shots needed is obviously faster
other weapons have good burst gen like clip shotguns, but I don't really use those...
You're looking at the burst gen chart or the 3RL burst gen tier list? 
Or.... Feed chart 
this chart, im experimenting. can some explain the full bar time, tier, feed jackal, and variation ?
@keen vapor back to 7, all according to plan 
full bar time is what you aim for. The bar is the burst gen bar. When it's full you begin the burst 1-3 cycle and then enter full burst.
3RL decent, idk if Centi will survive on p1 though
I guess they added variation because some people complain about calculators getting it wrong sometimes? Idk.
Tier is the RL burst speed.
Gen each tier, 100 means you burst at that tier.
Feed jackal? I guess they calculated it into number too for convenience sake. Just add it to burst gen of opponent.
_
if they die before burst, you can't burst
for P1 and P5 are for those that are tanky nikke right ?
snipers on attack shoot p5, shotguns on defense shoot p5, so it's not very important for P5 to be tanky
Yeah. P1 has higher pressure. P5 defending on opposite team sometime it has high pressure, sometime none.
oh ok so thats why i need someone like noise to occupy P1 for heals and tanking
If Noise is your only B1 she can just die and you won't be able to burst. So keep that in mind as well.
ashame though i dont have enough dmg nikkes , i have good amount but not the best defs and battery nikkes
Guys, ive managed to get this characters, could someone pls help me with 3 arena teams? Ive read few arena guides and still clueless
Show the unsynched ones as well. Is this all your SSRs?
Yeah, thats all ive got
When would I use an Adjutant vs a Quantum Cube?
Is Adjutant just a recommendation on some really old characters before Quantum existed? (I don't know if this was ever a time.)
Tia+Bay+SBS+Biscuit+Ludmilla/Noise (4rl)
Scarlet+Folkwang+M.Privaty+Liter+Anis (4rl)
Alice+Marciana+Neon+Naga+Maiden (4rl)
Best I could do.
When you need to reach a Charge speed threshold so you get more shoot in at the time you want. Quantum is when you need to reach a few burst gen more for the team but it won't make your team get out of the common 0.5-1 RL.
It's defending on specific team and investment. Either could be better.
Thanks a lot!
Honestly, I hate the cube system in this game, because optimal usage means shuffling them around, which is tedious.
You could use either Ludmilla or Noise in team 1. I edited. Ludmilla if you aren't confident Noise could survive.
hello ,I m desperate for help, I have skill issue, and idk why I loose despite having more cp than the opponent and idk how to make teams depending on the opponent 
can you share team
how is your team 1 so uninvested?
Not sure if i should.actually invest in bay or rumami as permanent pvp.. that's why
. 😭
Or if other units are better
how much charge speed does your Emilia have?
4.9
post your box and current teams, https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1177116972593463316 ~~always ~~nearly always finds a solution
how much CP for these teams
Rumani first Bay later, you have Noah so bay is a hard sell.
What ol lines would.you aim for on rumami
doesn't matter
Charge speed, def, element dmg for CP.
But getting 2-3 lines at start are good enough
Blanc team should beat team 2, Noah team should beat team 1
should make a recording
team 3 is too hard to hit with 23%ish deficit
Hmm so 7 sec of 1 HP Scarlet solo vs around 5 nikke worth of HP. Bring it on.
@junior mesa Record the Scarlet fight at least, I want to see it.
Ok
These are my current defense teams I want to improve them if possible.
These are my units
I can remove and add nikkes in the sync device so that's not an issue
It would have to get through Cindy's decoy too, from my battles, Scarlet is generally barely able to kill Noah
Noah already almost ded when she burst so I already counted the decoy.
no doll on Noah?
More like your opponent was weak
A strong Scarlet is very deadly. My experience with Centi MLB, srlv5 p1 ded before she could burst 2rl vs a strong Scarlet of similar level.
Scarlet is a relic of the past, put her in a wheelchair
Well, it's just you not encounter a heavily built one...
to be fair, if Blanc's indom truly only lasted 7 seconds, he would have won
10-3=7 both 2rl team
what's 10-3
10 sec Blanc - 3 sec noah
I think the issue was running Noir
yes, 3 nikke got suicided by noir with link on jackal 
Phone often have screen recording function pre-installed nowaday.
throw a biscuit with noah and that scarlet wouldn't hurt much on the other hand
But you won't hit 2rl
Can you see the video I sent? First time sending video
yeah, he would have to run Scarlet as a burster, which is also a sudoku
Okay nevermind I saw it
Lol this conversation happened as he already sent his ded teams
why aren't we running this btw? does the dude not have these nikke? (i didn't watch box)
I believed in Scarlet and she won. Scarlet ftw
scar 2RL loses to god team tho 
he can run Biscuit as a 2RL if he puts Jackal as P1
biscuit jackal and noah in the same team is overkill 
apparently not
but ye it would work if he can afford it for the other team he has to deal with
After losing to Scarlet in Rookie a thousand time. I have PSTD and conditionally betting she would win. 
can i ruin your dreams?
yeah, other team only needs Blanc, Red Hood and Emilia, other chars are jobbers
No
he died at the very end of the 10 secs, so without Noir he would win anyways, problem is that his XMaiden is not invested if he has one
Noir shouldn't even be counted a nikke HP bar vs Scarlet+Blanc. She essentially zero HP by herself. My bad.
I can try and invest in xmaiden, who would she replace? Don't have any stones left to OL tho
then don't, you need the stones. Does your Laplace have treasure?
Well this isn't a 2 RL Scarlet and No Blanc. It's pointless
2RL Noah+SBS hard counter
No don't have her 3 star'ed
i found it dw, it actually runs biscuit in it
lemme upload shortly
how much CP is this team?
oh but it isn't 2RL, gotta find that one
for the record, I think the Biscuit team with 4 tanks would be funny to watch
Easiest counter to Scarlet+Blanc is just CP dif it with treasure Laplace.
just 2 RL Cindy it
Not if it's also 2RL 
If their Emilia has around 20% CS from OL lines.
A Scarlet+Blanc+Emi+Centi+Jackal
Would be able to catch your 2RL Cindy without any feed.
no
why not just run this @swift mango ? noise and noah will survive 7s of scarlet 🤔
you should ping lmao, he needs your intel
Well I don't have Noah but it could work. Maybe put Noise in P2 so she could live long and keep healing.
Ofc need higher CS than Noah
Well ,consider the dmg in the record. He would win with Noah+Noise
yeah i think so
and biscuit might not even be needed so
@junior mesa did you follow this far? 
Eh with Biscuit it's not 2rl
yeah it's the lineup i posted and iris reposted earlier
You could only have either Biscuit or Noise for 2rl SBS
on the vid Blanc's burst went off at 4:56 and Cindy died at 4:46, so if you can match the burst speed without Noir, the Cindy team just wins
Yes reading the info..
I hate how ppl in my bracket pushed campaign before I reach lvl 441, now I have to push too
record it for science 
cook him a Blanc, Emilia, RH team with 3 RL
since you used Anis and SBS
I'm pushing campaign 
i'm only interested in the 2RL scarlet team 
Not sure what to put for 2nd team.tho
emilia is out of my domain, let's leave it to @swift mango
auto is cooking so hard on easy levels 
This is for vs. His 1st team?
that's for the scarlet team ye
yo, I already cooked the team, Blanc, Emilia and Red Hood, he just needs enough battery for 3 RL
while not being at CP deficit
Could you OL Rumani right now?
She has none
Your Jackal is free?
I have ol on jackal rapunzel and biscuit
his Jackal is free
Then it's easy
Emilia+Blanc+RH(Vigor Cube if lower HP than Emi)+Crown+Jackal
This is the strongest 3 buff Emi that no 3rl team can tank.
Even 4RL Noah team would often block her then ded to Auto attack.
Ok
idk if you checked, but his team dies in 1 sec
Should.i battle?
so if Noah blocks, he just explodes
78k, 84k
Which team 78k?
78k is fine into 90k
Emi team always win with Emi alone at 1 HP.
i seem to remember a video where your 1hp emilia died during indom tho 
That's after indom. That video was versus a Scarlet.
Of same speed
hmmmm 
That's 2 buff Emilia. With Crown 20+% dmg and 60+% self attack more, your Cindy would getting One shot without trigger Biscuit.
Time to send? 🤭
my body is ready
(albeit im just here to see the scarlet matchup)
Emilia can't 1v1 Moran
60+% self attack more? you mean the OL lines? 🤔
Idk, not sure after the buff
Self attack of Crown. And 20%+ dmg of s2 of crown.
Holy shittttt. Yall did it!!!
ez pz
I often run Crown instead of RH for 2 buff Emi. Since it could survive the whale Laplace+
uh what would the team be in that case?
(sorry i wasn't following earlier due to dailies)
yay my baby did as expected 
indom scarlet with no biscuit ripperoni @swift mango 
although she still hurt like a brick 🤔
Welp, I was telling him to put Blanc p2.
Glad it still work 
1 or 2 seconds longer and it could've been trouble
a few more RNG counters... 
i wonder if it's consistant on the long run
imagine putting the team on defense
Nope
how do you get emi to get blanc indom with rumani in p1?
i thought there was something with jackal but it looks different than i thought 🤨
Carried by Rumani's Muscle.
Someone help this noon
Thank you!
are you running emi without chest or something 
Nope and my Emi is core 1 
how in the world emi gets the indom is fascinating

50% hp of rumani still higher than 100% hp of emi 
Read her skill, and it's not 50%


Team 1:
Already good, don't change
Team 2:
Liter/Blanc/SBS/Centi/Jackal
Team 3:
I realized this is brick account since its still at 254 being this account from at least Re Zero Collab so... Press auto ig 
I don't think you should invest in PVP further, unless level diff for top 50 is like 30 levels for some reason
Welp, I was finally bumped out of Challenger 6, so it's time to reevaluate team comps again:
Current Def teams and roster
Why you are so brick
Why are you so mean 
Rip Scarlet. Finally this work again. Need to max Cindy s2 asap...
Liter higher attack or Naga higher attack?
Naga higher
Wait my account is bricked?
Bad positioning 
Well, aren't you highly underleveled compared to others in arena?
Then
brick

The good part is you don't need +15 SR dolls for rocket launcher
@kindred tinsel believes tho
again how does look top 40-50
only Scarlet def team in my bracket
My roster has grown a lot since the last time I came for advice. I am looking for suggestion on which squad setup would work best for Rookie arena and maybe for SP too if one feels charitable
Which teams should I use for rookie and sp?
Swap Vesti for Laplace
Team 2 formation should be like
Naga/Liter/Jackal
I want to see how minor adjustments goes
Can I ask you when did you start?
Fun 30k boost right off the bat 

treasure ur laplace if u serious about pvp
She is treasured
And you weren't using 
U had her benched this entire time 
Look, I'm a pvp sheep, idk comps 
Top 40-50
what level they are
Well I started last year btw
December?
Yea
Bricked pvp 
Also, potential help with beating this guy and taking my spot back?
That means -90 levels....
Game is launching
Late March
His t2 is like 4rl and will never burst so just be faster than him
t1 beaten by 2rl noah+cindy
t3 beaten by biscuit+defender taunter to neutralize sbs distributed dmg
Use Noah team for team 2, and SBS team for team 1
Demn
Yes
-90 levels
Yea can also kill his t1 with sbs/rh 
here are my SP arena teams too. the attack team moves the bait squad around as needed.
What I said 
Gonna move to the new DS game
New game for the Nintendo DS? 
U dont want me to reaffirm that u're correct? Ok from now on i gaslight u
Brick 
||Love u||
can you guys stop bricking your accounts?
how does that work?
they didn't get 11 copies of Cinderella when she was on banner
I got nothing out of free pulls is not my fault
Something like this work orrrr 🙃
Real
This was my today dispatch, plus 2 more times that I successfully got the 4 star+ making it 250 gem total. F my luck.
What is this 
I am trying to beat the dude here
#pvp-arena message
Why your attack more brick than defense 
It should be the opposite

Cook and answer his question instead of mocking him
I cooked already 
👩🍳
When I said Noah team I meant this one 
win?
t1 is 21% cp diff.
t2 is no cp diff.
How was your quest on MLB xmica?
When weekly reset happens 
Yeah, don't @ me though.
ok ill @ echo instead if i lose
SBS scraped by with literally a sliver of health in Team 1 but I did it 
Use that copy button (at the side of round 3 one) to get your defense on attack then rearrange to this order (SBS, Noah, filler)

was win ty 
DON'T DO MIRRORS 
i dont have noah to counter 
I yeah but Elegg feed was good
I wonder if that guy knows elegg s2 doesn't work in pvp 
Why everyone asking for PVP teams at this hour
that dude elegg simp. elegg banner one trick pony
pvp me
Look blue line or nah?
Hell no 
Why?
Crit bad 
Middle line locked double bad

You having blue line infinitely bad

Crit rate on SBS is awful that's why
That last last line though. 
Crit can sometime make a difference between win or lose in pvp

I won't forget what I saw 
My Drunkletless ass is sdage rn 
Rem and I keep jokin that I would give them one SBS for 2 Drunklets 
Lock 1+3?
No lock
charge damage bad
Only lock line three if it's Ammo, Atk, or Ele (ammo dependent on how many other ammo lines you have already)
Still bad trade because sbs is better in more content than drunklet who's mainly just pvp now
Lock on first line ultra bad 
I don't think I need ammo for arena or if I have Crown in my team
Okay I will keep farm rock before try again.
Yeah, that's ok
Man, tfw I might have to start OLing my purple Anis for power padding 
I think 3 line ele and 2 line atK is good enough since I don't mald campaign and solo raid. No?
I did 
imagine not having an OL-d SR Anis
Okay, but explain the naga re order to me, I am trying to learn PvP mechanics but it's a lot to wrap my head around (I assume it has to do with Naga buff distribution)
Naga is higher attack, so she will be linked by jackal's skill 2 (her main gimmick), that means she won't die to attacks and we have double buffer Cindy
Naga provides like 0 buffs for pvp







