pvp-arena

[outer crag]

i aint no hackerman, i only know like ctrl+c ctrl+v

these are the most super meta uber teams?

[lunar dirge]

your defence is f'd up regardless

pvp heavily attached towards attackers

[outer crag]

weird that it required my credit card info for download of merged pictures, meh whatev, at least it worked

[keen vapor]

Every team is beatable

[outer crag]

yeah, but whats the most annoying defence i can set up, like one that would make attackers just give up

[lunar dirge]

pick any of those i send above and do the rest by yourself from leftovers,either cpgap or your own ideas

[lunar dirge]

#pvp-arena message

[outer crag]

alright thanks for suggestions

[keen vapor]

What happened to your green role

[outer crag]

i know nothing about it

this is like my first time writing in this server

whats a green role

[tropic summit]

got promoted so fast... they grow up so fast

[keen vapor]

The starting role

[outer crag]

is shifty mail my current role? thats weird one

i dont like green anyways

[keen vapor]

I love green

[outer crag]

bro we all know red is the coolest color like ever invented

RED hood, RED shoes

second one just gave me PTSD

i'm go cry, cya

[tropic summit]

so echo is a 🐳 , the second one I'll leave it to imagination (as he likes green)

[keen vapor]

Rapi Red Dreams

No, Red Memories

[keen vapor]

Balance the will to mald raids but skill/hardware issued to do bad anyways

[outer crag]

how do i get my green back?

[tropic summit]

true yin & yang

[pastel falcon]

1st team, 1st try thanks fam!

[keen vapor]

Probably by keep talking, hopefully

[tropic summit]

you're aiming for this i guess

[outer crag]

i'm even lower thabn lvl0? dayum

[lunar dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/packwatch-gif-22219180

[keen vapor]

I just like it bc of Ben 10

[lunar dirge]

told ya it'll work

[keen vapor]

[kindred tinsel]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-doro-dorothy-pipe-bomb-gif-4643514375044855612

[swift mango]

People think red is cool because they weren't prepared enough for PINK

Amateur

[tropic summit]

Red is the most default color to like

[keen vapor]

Me?

[swift mango]

Oh I didn't know

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Problem is, Noah and Biscuit prevent lifesteal

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Folkwang's shield should be like 200% HP. Treasure when?

[keen vapor]

I'll be ready

[tropic summit]

treasured noah, now gives invulnerability and indom to whole team for 10s

[swift mango]

Treasure Blanc, now Indom whole team for 50 seconds.

[frozen mist]

i hate the SP Arena change where they merged servers or w/e. Went from top 10 to now 20 because they merged my server with 10 whales ;..;

[tropic summit]

don't worry, 3 months from now and it will get worse

(or better)

[frozen mist]

i went from #3, to #7, to 10 to 20 with these merges

[swift mango]

I wager it's 2 whale at best and the rest are just active player into ur ded bracket.

[frozen mist]

We have three whales in my server, and they are now #8 9 and 10. the top 7 people were merged and are much higher bp 😦

[swift mango]

Just because they have higher level doesn't mean they are whale.

[lunar dirge]

ppl who have 60 levels more than me are whel

[swift mango]

10 whale bracket aren't possible.

[swift mango]

Show me your bracket that has 10 whale

[lunar dirge]

i can show you 1 guy who is worth 10 whales

[swift mango]

Nah he won't taking 10 spot so he only one

[frozen mist]

its quite literally whales when they are that much higher level ;..; if you over 50-80 levels higher yeh

[swift mango]

And we already know Keripo

[frozen mist]

our top player has level 431 units.

one behind him is 350

[lunar dirge]

not keripo actually

[frozen mist]

#3 is 361

[swift mango]

But he already an example

[frozen mist]

4 is 340

[swift mango]

When did you started?

[frozen mist]

March of last year. My units are 283 ;o

our servers whale their levels are 310-325.

[swift mango]

March of LAST YEAR? Not This year)

[frozen mist]

this year*

[keen vapor]

Alexei has his own personal leviathan in his bracket

[frozen mist]

2024 xD

but #1 guy is 100 levels over our whales. Not sure why they put him here..

[swift mango]

Which event?

[tropic summit]

that's not a leviathan, that's the sponsor for stellar blade 2

[keen vapor]

I think you should be 290-300

[swift mango]

Should be 301+

[frozen mist]

Nupe. Everyone that joined around me is around the same level ;o

[swift mango]

Like I said, which event?

[frozen mist]

elegg event

[lunar dirge]

my ass

[swift mango]

I started at the end of Elegg event and 315. And I passed on 2-3 event core dust farm.

Your bracket were just ded

[keen vapor]

Not so much

This is 4 months diff with me so he should have 40 levels less than me

[frozen mist]

But did you spend any $?

[swift mango]

Like he said, he started similar time as me

[swift mango]

Nope

[frozen mist]

No clue then.

[swift mango]

Your are🧱

[keen vapor]

When you started buying event stamina?

[frozen mist]

what stage Normal/HM have you done?

[frozen mist]

i do not waste gems on that.

[keen vapor]

WE FOUND THE PROBLEM

[frozen mist]

thats not something Free to play players should do with their gems???

[swift mango]

Event Rosy started around Emi Collab with a bricked PVE team also nearly 301.

The guy was just blessed with a bricked bracket.

[tropic summit]

what the actual f it's double the level

[keen vapor]

Is only half a multi in price at worst bud

[frozen mist]

Yeah absolutely not worth it for f2p players o.o

[keen vapor]

You're falling behind in level for this very reason

[strong hull]

Swiping technique 2bil dollas

[tropic summit]

typical mistake i did on my very first account of nikke 2 years ago

[swift mango]

Done with normal and at h20.

I'm not even campaign malder like Penguin and retro.

[lunar dirge]

i told ya,mine is a whole other breed

[tropic summit]

that guy needs medical help

[swift mango]

Keripo should be the same

[frozen mist]

Havent finished normal, hardmode 14

[keen vapor]

if you can't pay half a multi then I think you have gacha issues

[keen vapor]

Keripo should be 800 synch right now

[lunar dirge]

except mine is 1 year old acc,since we started at neverland

[swift mango]

Like I said your bracket was full of level Bricker like you.

And just merged up with people who actually play actively.

[frozen mist]

No i save for units.

[keen vapor]

How much

[frozen mist]

I usually save enough, around 60k to make sure i get MLB at minimum. Last 2 units i did this were crown and cind.

[keen vapor]

F2P don't go for MLB

[frozen mist]

You have a very different mindset compared to most people ive seen on here then 😛

[tropic summit]

sir i've bad news, it's the opposite

[keen vapor]

Most people at #questions are whales

[lunar dirge]

unless #gacha-rolls message

[frozen mist]

Most units i dont MLB, but the two good pilgrims? Absolutely.

[keen vapor]

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor should we tell him? maybe he's living an happy unconcerned life

i'm not sure i've it in me to ruin that fragile stability

[keen vapor]

Does he know?

[lunar dirge]

gl mlbing a pilgrim with 0.0455% chance,i only did to 1 with 4k pulls and 11 month into the game

[umbral crown]

820+

[frozen mist]

ive done the two i have just fine ;o RNG is RNG. I MLB Elegg in 3 rolls when i joined so ;o

[keen vapor]

Well, thing is @frozen mist you can increase your levels by buying event stamina, will be hard to catch up with the others but 20 levels diff still workable

[tropic summit]

what kind of HP do nikke have at that synch level... 5bi+?

[outer crag]

thats like saying the t-rex isnt the coolest dino ever created (by newton??) because its the most mainstream, coolness is not based on distribution of opinion, but on facts

i bet they even skateboarded on the ark 0f noah or something

[tropic summit]

T-Rex are cool by default

[outer crag]

facts.

oh shit my green is back

[swift mango]

[drifting hazel]

Agreed, we should jump his whale ah rn

[lunar dirge]

absolutely f2p

[outer crag]

how tf did this even happen?

do we not get thrown against people that started more or less our own time

[drifting hazel]

Sure

[outer crag]

show us your rooster then

[drifting hazel]

Imo PvP brackets needed to be sorted by either total CP or level

Every 50 levels after 200

[swift mango]

My Drunk Scarlet is core 1 from off rate.

Missing like 5 Pligrim and no Noah, Rapu though.

[outer crag]

but then there would be no point in whaling as youd just get thrown against day0 f2p players

[lunar dirge]

ok

i'll show which charas i missing

1 year into the game

[outer crag]

nah nah, need to see core level of nikkes

sneaky

[drifting hazel]

You’ll fight people in your own weight class. Whales stay in first because they already whaled, they only need to whale more for better SR and fast UR

[outer crag]

alright hes good

good rooster tho

[lunar dirge]

don't mindc5 blanc

i was aliceless

[outer crag]

u got everything u need as f2p

[lunar dirge]

for 8 month straight

cuz she was dropping all the time

[frozen mist]

how is your Alice not MLB?

[lunar dirge]

#pvp-arena message

[swift mango]

@frozen mist

Yeah you have the advice of our residents 🧱 specialist Echo. Trust him.

[lunar dirge]

i only got 1 copy from molds last month

[frozen mist]

Yeah but we have gotten like 3 free copies of her lol

[drifting hazel]

Mines C1

Well will be Monday at reset

[lunar dirge]

1* from alice diary,don't lie

[lunar dirge]

i know

lb2 considering i already popped 1 of those

[outer crag]

[lunar dirge]

so i got 1 alice in 1 year

[drifting hazel]

Rip

[outer crag]

even if i wake up all my 5 braincells i cant manage to get past top3%

[swift mango]

I got 0 Jackal in 9 months.

[lunar dirge]

i'm rushing for top 200 tho

[drifting hazel]

I got 4 from pulls and the one free in less than one year

[outer crag]

and we are around the same acc level

[frozen mist]

thats on you. You didnt keep your box of rocks. Once you get that she shows up ;o

[lunar dirge]

are we?

[swift mango]

I wished list her as soon as I unlocked her. It's just luck.

My Scarlet is core 1.

[kindred tinsel]

[outer crag]

lemme check real quick

[swift mango]

Almost perfect line for her, just need the charge speed

[outer crag]

i'm 400

[drifting hazel]

He’s got full gear, he’ll be fine

[outer crag]

is 46 that much of a difference?

[kindred tinsel]

ill try again tomorrow

[drifting hazel]

Yeah

[drifting hazel]

Nah save rocks

[swift mango]

Use it on other pieces instead

That's a lot of CP in that rank 33 roll.

[kindred tinsel]

yeah rerolling been pain lately ill do that

[outer crag]

we are like only 20ish nikke levels away tho, i just upgraded to lvl320, and he got over 1% in raids

[lunar dirge]

pretty weak sr wise

i'm only strong in electric and iron

must fix water and fire

[outer crag]

i mean, whos strong sr wise, dont we all just use ssr?

[kindred tinsel]

im i wrong or this isnt a pvp buff

[outer crag]

i had high hopes for water this event, but w. guilottine is meh

[lunar dirge]

i mean,i don't even have much ele on water and fire dps,in water i only have 30% atk and 60% ele xlud,in wind 85% sbs and in fire 40% ele alice and 30% atk 30% ele mod

[outer crag]

i mean pretty good for elysion, but still expected better

[swift mango]

The only use for it in Arena is to break Bay 3rl team's cover

[lunar dirge]

she's ass

[lunar dirge]

it's not

[outer crag]

i mean, compared to other elysion

[kindred tinsel]

[lunar dirge]

xmaiden and mpriv are better than her,hell,even phantom does more

[outer crag]

even the new guilty better

phantom have no clue, not gonna use her anytime soon, unless they release some crazy combo for her

[drifting hazel]

We need more water and fire Nikkes anyway Alice can only fit in one team

[lunar dirge]

for me it means i must build qeq and rei+asuka

[swift mango]

Where were you when the Eva Collab drop?

[outer crag]

asuka?

[drifting hazel]

There’s no parts in PvP that’s for bossing with parts

[drifting hazel]

Yeah, that’s like maybe three teams, plus SG if you are advanced.

[swift mango]

Then stop dissing on XGuil and build her

[lunar dirge]

i have qeq to build

[drifting hazel]

I’ll have to get her next year

[outer crag]

whos qeq?

[swift mango]

Both

[lunar dirge]

and even then i'm not building scarlet tier dps that will drop out with release of water pilgrim dps

[drifting hazel]

Quincy escape queen

[outer crag]

theif quency?

[lunar dirge]

ye

[outer crag]

makes sense

[swift mango]

She is a buffer, not just dps.

[lunar dirge]

midd ass buffer

mid ass dps,could've tried harder

literally diluted by ol's

[outer crag]

she good, i dont know if i should unlock stage 3 fav item for viper, ut resets her burst 2

[swift mango]

Better than XLud for Water raid at less.

[lunar dirge]

nope

[swift mango]

Sure

[lunar dirge]

xluds and qeq are the pair already since xlud buffs quency decently

guillotine will go alone

[swift mango]

Need 5 teams

[lunar dirge]

as a team 3-4 unit

[lunar dirge]

we have sg team that requires whole other units set

[swift mango]

Next Pligrim water coming and you would cry

[lunar dirge]

and i'm saving for her

win-win for me

[outer crag]

please dont make ssr rapi water based

thats the most ass element

[lunar dirge]

iron/fire 50/50

[outer crag]

she red, she fire

[lunar dirge]

well,water must get fixed smh

[swift mango]

Next Water solo raid the meta team line up would definitely have XGuil. It's a given

[outer crag]

sacrifice somebody else 😭

[swift mango]

Idk why you keep trying to deny it

[lunar dirge]

and then she will drop out like rem did

only 1 raid usage

[swift mango]

Rem only support RL

[lunar dirge]

i'm not denying that she'll be used,she's just not worth it in a long run

[swift mango]

And a B2 that you only need 5

Xguil is attacker you need 10-15

Try to learn the difference. The hate is strong here.

[lunar dirge]

guillotine is already below 5 teams on neutral,like og scar she is team 3-4 unit,with water pilgrim release she will be out

that's all i'm saying

[kindred tinsel]

how good is a rem pvp team

[swift mango]

She boost element dmg of she is bad on neutral but who care about neutral in a water weak raid?

[lunar dirge]

that 30% ele damage is literally diltued by cubes +ol lines,for xlud and qeq with 60% ele it's literally 15% increase,even xlud does 12% damage increase to a whole team,and it's permanent

and that's assuming she's maxed out

i would be fine if she was like xmaiden

of had bigger base multipliers

[swift mango]

She is the 1 and a half extra OL line that you won't get otherwise.

[lunar dirge]

only during time when characters don't do any damage,aka not on their burst rotation

[drifting hazel]

Asuka was a limited time Nikke collab, anyone who didn’t pull her won’t have her. So I was regarding Nikkes pullable by anyone

[outer crag]

theres modernia, which is also not the best for raids, then drake maybe, but she also not great.. who else is b3 fire? hmmm..

[lunar dirge]

modernia is actually pretty decent raid unit

like top 7-8 dps on neutral

[outer crag]

meh, i just use her as filler mostly

[drifting hazel]

Drake is really relegated to PvP for burst gen but even then there’s others already. Mod needs investment to shine like Alice

[lunar dirge]

trony but she's giga pepega

[drifting hazel]

She helped clear those dam ice crystals this SR

[outer crag]

lets be real, who dont have modernia or alice invested like crazy?

[drifting hazel]

My mod sucks since she only has two gears and ele damage on the first lines, don’t have rocks to roll them down rn

[lunar dirge]

she's fps dependant,do you have 60 fps on your device?

[swift mango]

Me

[lunar dirge]

me

and i'm the pve guy here

[outer crag]

oh shit forgot about the gremlin, theres also yulha and nihilister, but hell nah i'm not spending resources on them

[drifting hazel]

Both are trash

[outer crag]

pc ;)

[lunar dirge]

i just prefer go wide on my pve

[drifting hazel]

Yuhla too busy to fight

[lunar dirge]

and?i have 30 fps on my pc

[outer crag]

yah, dont even know what their skill do

[outer crag]

dayum bro.. how'd you get top 0.8% whit 30fps

[drifting hazel]

Skill

[outer crag]

;) ;) ;)

[drifting hazel]

Cheater

[swift mango]

Next you know he used a mod app to play your account and you got banned.

[outer crag]

[vapid lake]

Well he not account sharing, he using his account on another guy's device

Now if he admitted to piloting then he'd better delete his post before mod see it

[lunar dirge]

well,sorry,i'm mot paying for a new pc just to get 1b extra damage in a gacha game

[drifting hazel]

Ah valid

[outer crag]

i NEED the 60fps butt giggle physics

[drifting hazel]

Do you not run a whole lot on it I’m guessing

[outer crag]

i view it as a long term investment

[lunar dirge]

and i did the rest by myself

[cedar orbit]

damn, no 4b on the Cindy team

[drifting hazel]

Your SAnis team almost did more than my 5 teams did

[lunar dirge]

cindy had no ammo

[outer crag]

stupid question, wont shotgun team be better whit bunny alice in it?

[drifting hazel]

I only have one line and always need to reload right before bursting

[lunar dirge]

leona balice ain't worth it,better to run any other b2 buffer

and i literally gor exia diffed

[outer crag]

dunno, have them somewhat built and they aint half bad

[lunar dirge]

could've gotten 1b more if she was invested

[outer crag]

so i can leave bunnies open for other teams if required

[lunar dirge]

do they offer damage?no,tiga and bunnies thus better

like

if i run tiga,my sg team could've got 1-1,1b

[outer crag]

but i usally use tia-naga and bunnies in other teams

[lunar dirge]

that's why yuor score is so low

[outer crag]

i use the shotgun team as fifth fixed team mostly

[outer crag]

heh probably

[lunar dirge]

tiga's main problem this sr is that they require 2 units

if boss is possible to noheal

you can just use mari+b3 offburst like xlud

for extra damage

[outer crag]

fixed, said bunny instead of shotgun

[lunar dirge]

well,same,but they have potential to be 3rd team

after grave and crown teams

[cedar orbit]

I just realised, I didn't notice SR had a core to shoot at

[lunar dirge]

took you long enough

but don't worry,we couldn't even lock on it

[cedar orbit]

no wonder my dmg was dog

[outer crag]

whats SR?

the winter dragon boss?

[cedar orbit]

yeah, solo raid

[lunar dirge]

sr=solo raid

[grizzled bone]

special recruit

[lunar dirge]

[outer crag]

super rare

[lunar dirge]

could've said deez nuts or smth

[outer crag]

yeah, i just gave up on locking on core, missed too many shots and made runs inconsistent

[grizzled bone]

[cedar orbit]

it's okay, got 0.45% anyways

[lunar dirge]

🤝

[lunar dirge]

global?

[cedar orbit]

ye

[outer crag]

only?

[lunar dirge]

0,34%,bit sad that didn't get top 200

@cedar orbit

[cedar orbit]

top 200 is copium

[outer crag]

this chat made me realize i'm ass

[lunar dirge]

well,a good number,so i chase it ,i'm already c3 in pvp,so i can chase raids for now

[outer crag]

time to review my units, be back in 3 months when done

[cedar orbit]

the raid before too, last day I did 1 attack, got 0.33%, it was good enough

[lunar dirge]

ended up at 0,57% at behemoth sr,improved my score by 2b

[kindred tinsel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1312830506404151378/6699EFFE8916DD787DE0C3F0C34A2288.gif

[umbral crown]

Like 30m probably

[vapid lake]

I'm gonna jump 10 levels to 301 and overload a bunch of pvp units in one go on NY to scare my rivals

Assuming new chapter out in jan

[keen vapor]

"So whale "

[keen vapor]

no

[vapid lake]

If no new chap in jan then iget to hoard longer

Since i literally cannot progress until 321 because of nihilister wall

[vapid lake]

That the point i want to scare the ppl below me into not attacking me anymore

Big numbers scary

[keen vapor]

You will become 321 naturally right before new chapters, don't worry

[kindred tinsel]

whale cosplay meta less goo im in

[vapid lake]

Unlikely new chap will be out mid jan or early feb at latest

I'm currently 289

[keen vapor]

I thought you were 310

[vapid lake]

Why the hell would i be talking about jumping to sync 301 if im already 310

[keen vapor]

You said this and going up 10 levels

[cedar orbit]

walled by Nihilister

[umbral crown]

Imagine waiting that long to scare people

Would not be me

[rich quail]

I did this a few weeks ago but with only 3 levels

But it still made a huge difference

[umbral crown]

Si

[upper grove]

all DEF teams in top 3 are biscuit noah cindy comps, idc about Rookie arena, I just want to know how to beat that kinda comp. noone in this bracket has s anis, is there a way?

[cedar orbit]

is that a treasure Laplace?

[upper grove]

yes

[cedar orbit]

how do you not win that?

you should be 2RL, opponent should be 3 RL

Cindy burst goes off, kills Noise and Biscuit

should probably move Jackal to P3, Cindy P4, Laplace P5

so Cindy doesn't get hit by splash

if you burst into Noah shield

anyways, if you need a different team, Noah, S.Anis and Biscuit should win that have the same charging speed

[upper grove]

sure I'll give it a shot

as I mentioned, noone has s anis in this bracket

otherwise I would've used her

[coarse lake]

Sanis isn't guaranteed to win that

[cedar orbit]

they can't get through Biscuit tank

[upper grove]

thanks I won, it was mainly the positioning

[cedar orbit]

your opponent's positioning is bad

if it was correct, you wouldn't charge in time

[upper grove]

yeah I was wondering about cindy

[cedar orbit]

against teams that have correct positioning, you would have to use Anis instead of Noise

but I don't know if your Cindy is strong enough to 1-tap enemies

[upper grove]

I hope they re run s anis next summer

[cedar orbit]

Anis, Centi, Rumani, any of those

[upper grove]

starting after EVA noone has S anis here

[cedar orbit]

not S.Anis, the SR one

[upper grove]

oooh

yeah I'm about to OL my burst batteries soon

[cedar orbit]

right now you won, because your rockets hit Cindy's decoy, generating enough energy for you to charge in 4 seconds

and well, enemy no longer hits your Cindy after Noise taunts them

[upper grove]

would you OL characters like Noir/Noise/Moran first or the burst gens?

[cedar orbit]

Moran needs doll and high level skills to work, Noise kinda needs an SR doll too to tank

burst generators have an easy time getting an OL slapped on

Noir is the same as burst gens, but worse

[upper grove]

currently I have Alice, Cindy and Laplace maxed, next is SBS (currently at SR7), then it the new years unit if it's broken enough

I noticed my Noise or taunters in general kinda die because they have no SR doll

[cedar orbit]

that's fine, probably campaign team is the most important thing to OL

[upper grove]

only Alice is 3/4 at 5/5 OL, rest is base 0 OL. too many units that I want to OL and mats are so slow

[cedar orbit]

I think it's too expensive to lvl 5 OL

not worth while you are new

doesn't give a lot of CS, just get OL lvl 0 for campaign, then work on your pvp team

[upper grove]

yep I noticed after going all in on Alice, I could have OLed more units with those mats

[fallow bramble]

Hi, can I ask if theres like a general team for defence people use to stay top few in SP arena when your bracket are full of people 30-40 levels under u?
I have all units except rumani and phantom.
Yes, people 40 levels under me are tryharding me daily now and its getting annoying. I havent updated my teams in quite a while, about several months.

[nocturne arrow]

no hope for this right?

[cedar orbit]

you can't run SBS into Biscuit

[nocturne arrow]

so how?

[cedar orbit]

you are asking how do you beat that team?

[nocturne arrow]

yup

[cedar orbit]

the answer is always 2 RL Cinderella

[nocturne arrow]

like this?

[cedar orbit]

treasure Laplace is better than Noir, you can use Moran for team 1, then move Noah to team 3 as main tank

[cedar orbit]

no

[nocturne arrow]

so how?

[cedar orbit]

Noise, Noah, Jackal, Centi, Cinderella

assuming your Noise gets linked to Jackal

[nocturne arrow]

dont have noah

[cedar orbit]

Noise, Centi, Jackal, SR Anis, Cinderella

[nocturne arrow]

Summer Anis?

[cedar orbit]

no

the purple one

[nocturne arrow]

the normal ones?
i dont build her yet

[cedar orbit]

what are the two teams CP?

[nocturne arrow]

or you mean something else?

[cedar orbit]

how much CP do you have with Noise, Centi, Jackal, SR Anis, Cinderella

[nocturne arrow]

no overgear and no upgrade

[cedar orbit]

unless you get countered by Scarlet a million times, I think you should win

on paper they generate 91 energy in 2.5 RL, you feed the jackal 3.6 energy, Scarlet would have to counter literally everything for them to burst in time

[swift mango]

The answer is to upgrade you darn arena units or cash out more so you 80 level above them.

[graceful grotto]

you're intending to use this to fight the scarlet team?

[nocturne arrow]

I suggested to use this to fight it.
Will try tomorrow.
But i also open on another suggestion

[graceful grotto]

you'll lose lol

that is a 3RL cindy

against a 3RL noah, cindy dmg basically won't kick in

if you can survive scarlet's burst with noise, then try s.anis instead

she can be taunt but she has two attack, so as long as her second attack lands on scarlet, you'll win

provided of course blanc indo apply on her too

i supposed if you have all with quantum then u will have 2RL, but normally i try not to rng play with scarjack

as long as they hit 2.5RL, with cindy delay burst, you'll not be able to nuke them too

[swift mango]

They are putting their card on getting to 2RL with feed which is normal to achieving it with opponent scarlet.

Otherwise, if you want to be sure, just add Quantum cube to Jackal, Anis and Centi

[graceful grotto]

always hate to try to win against scarjac with speed cause of the possible counter rng lol, but yeah can give a try i supposed since it's rookie arena

[swift mango]

I have nuke many 0.5RL slower scarlet with Cindy. It's really defending on your Cindy strength. She would often kill Scarlet in the first 5 hits and that would be no delay that Noah could kick in.

If their Scarlet could get to 2.3RL below however, your 2rl would 100% lose...

[umbral crown]

[graceful grotto]

so it was a 0.3 RL delay hmmmm

i thought it was 0.5 RL with noah

nice to know

[quick lake]

Counter RNG isnt that big though. Most of the feed comes from Jackal's s1

[swift mango]

No, the delay is between 1st round of 5 hits and 2nd round of 5 hits of Cindy's 10 hits. In which 0.5 RL slower Noah could trigger if you could survive the first round.

The 0.3RL difference is the delay between Burst 2 and Burst 3. There is 0.32RL between them. So a 0.32 RL slower team would be able to catch your B3 Nuke with their B2 Noah. No matter if it's Cindy or Scarlet.

Edit: Noah also has 0.08 RL delay so I guess you might need to be 0.24RL slower to catch a Scarlet burst, not 0.32RL slower. Sorry...

[orchid birch]

sooooo anyone free? tryina find a team to do in sp rn, already did one

[graceful grotto]

you can just send in here the ss

[orchid birch]

I send soon, running sim rn

my units*

do you think this is hittable or noh

[swift mango]

Cindy and Alice teams are 3-3.5RL but Cindy team has p1 Cindy so easily beat. Ein team is like 3.5-4 RL, should be not hard to beat.

Idk if you teams has enough CP though.

[orchid birch]

uhh I'll put em together and see

[orchid birch]

also idk what the whole rl means

[swift mango]

RL is the team's burst speed. Lower is faster.

[grizzled bone]

i think you need to elaborate on "slower is faster" lol

[orchid birch]

oh

[swift mango]

Typo..

[orchid birch]

I thought it was rocket launchers in the team

[swift mango]

1RL is one Rocket launcher shot. (Not counting Charge speed modifier)

[orchid birch]

oh

[misty finch]

Does this win? Not sure if blanc imdom will actaully land on RH

[orchid birch]

what teams would I wanna run?

[swift mango]

Anyway

Grave+Rouge+Cindy+Rumani+Jackal. to hit their Cindy.

Alice+Blanc+RH+Anis+XMaiden. To hit Ein team.

Equip Quantum cube on Anis if you have any.

[orchid birch]

uhh okae

[swift mango]

Check CP though

[graceful grotto]

wont red hood be taunt by Noah and deal like no dmg cause of biscuit?

[swift mango]

Woop sorry my bad.

Didn't see Biscuit.

[swift mango]

Okay sorry my bad. RH could be taunt by Noah and you would lose thanks to Biscuits invulnerable buff. If Noise taunt you though, then you should win if you burst fast and kill their Noise.

[graceful grotto]

yeah if noise died before they burst, you win

[orchid birch]

anything for the 2nd team or just kinda whatever?

[swift mango]

You could replace XMaiden in your Alice team with Noir for more CP.

Well, I already put your strongest units into 2 teams so there is nothing left for another...

[orchid birch]

it's only 2k if that matters at all

the first atk kinda worries me in cp diff

[swift mango]

Wait NVm

[swift mango]

How is

Grave+Rumani+Cindy+Alice+Jackal?

[orchid birch]

111.7k

alice is a big cp contributor for me

[umbral crown]

Yes but give Red Hood

[orchid birch]

what do I put over alice for third then?

[orchid birch]

just hit in your first 30 pulls

[swift mango]

What Blanc+RH+Noir+Anis+Xmaiden looks like?

[umbral crown]

Inpast those pulls, almost 1 year and still RH less

[orchid birch]

uhh 78k

80 if I push it

[orchid birch]

uhh I got rh day 1

no rerolls

I started about a month ago

[quick lake]

[quartz prawn]

[swift mango]

How is swapping Rumani with XMaiden?

[orchid birch]

abt the same

[swift mango]

Who have higher attack between Rouge and Grave?

[orchid birch]

rouge

[swift mango]

Who have higher attack between Grave and Cindy?

[orchid birch]

cindy

cindy 20 rouge 18 grave 17

[swift mango]

ATK, not CP...

[orchid birch]

thousand attack

20k 18k 17k

[swift mango]

Okay so How is your Liter vs Grav

[orchid birch]

liter 18.8k

[swift mango]

Okay

Liter+Grave+Cindy+XMaiden+Jackal to hit team 2-3.

Alice+Blanc+RH+Anis+Rumani to hit t1-2

Check CP.

[orchid birch]

2-3?

[swift mango]

Well either team I guess

[orchid birch]

oh

alice team hits 105.9k, other still 85k

[swift mango]

Okay so use

Liter+Grave+Cindy+Anis+Jackal to hit T2.

Alice+Blanc+RH+Rumani+XMaiden to hit T3.

Check CP sorry for trouble.

[orchid birch]

2nd is 83.6k

[swift mango]

Good enough

[keen vapor]

Blood

[swift mango]

Uhm...?

[keen vapor]

He's awake now

He just decided this season he's going to try

[swift mango]

Okay, your locate whale woke up and choose violence.

[orchid birch]

anythin I should slap in for t1?

[keen vapor]

I'm in danger

[swift mango]

Nothing really

[keen vapor]

SGs with Rosanna

[swift mango]

If you want to win T1. You could swap XMaiden with Rumani or Jackal... And use Alice team to hit it.

[orchid birch]

I believe in your t2-3

dubs ty

[umbral crown]

Lucky

[orchid birch]

is no luck

all skill

[umbral crown]

[kindred tinsel]

guys fix my drunk scarlet pls

[keen vapor]

Go fight ultra for her vest

Sadly you will have to fight mirror container as well

[keen vapor]

Also, invest her skill 2

To 7

[pseudo atlas]

sneaking in rankings while they offline

[keen vapor]

surely I don't get attacked

[pseudo atlas]

watch when i go back to diamond 2 where i usually hang out💀

[keen vapor]

You remind me to someone in my bracket

[strong hull]

[quick lake]

sweaty pvp

[pseudo atlas]

thats when you change frame and profile, they may forget about you

[swift mango]

Do you need gem to change name?

[strong hull]

Yes

500

[swift mango]

[swift mango]

Keep farming I guess....

[quick lake]

Change to a similar name as the whale

[swift mango]

Edit to my other comment: Noah also has 0.08 RL delay so I guess you might need to be 0.24RL slower to catch a Scarlet burst, not 0.32RL slower. Sorry...

[keen vapor]

I can't do that

[swift mango]

They would instantly catch you in because of your synch level lol.

[keen vapor]

[graceful grotto]

Oh so then it's quite close

[swift mango]

Idk if burst 3 like Scarlet has any delay though. This needs experts to answer. Not gonna try and test it.

Ein and B.Soda has some delay into full burst I guess.

[keen vapor]

No delay

[quick lake]

All dmg skills no delay iirc

[swift mango]

Ein and B.Soda has some delay so they get the Full burst buff though...

Or I'm tripping.

[quick lake]

I think those two are the weird ones that get the FB bonus, but dmg still instant i think?

[keen vapor]

Scarlet no delay

[quick lake]

Visually at least my BSoda dmg seems instant

[swift mango]

Well, your eyes won't catch 0.1 RL lol.

1 RL only around 1.2sec

We are talking in the realm of 0.08 RL delay for Noah here....

These things are something Eyes can't help you unless you use slomo function on a record and watch it frame from frame.

There should be around 0.1RL delay from B3 to full burst I believe.

[rich quail]

[keen vapor]

: Kanna sip:

[rich quail]

KANNA

SIP

[grizzled bone]

[rich quail]

I think you need to send Private Echo to clean the latrines again, Sergeant Caishen

[grizzled bone]

Hmm I think Echo needs to spend his stash instead

[rich quail]

That’s an ORDER, Private Echo!

Refusal to do so will be dealt as subordination!

pepeh-ing also counts as insubordination

[cedar orbit]

Why do you all conveniently ignore Jackal feed. If you have 97 energy in 2 RL and you have a Jackal on the team, you are 2 RL, unless you run into Rosanna.

[swift mango]

We are all lazy to calculate the Jackal feed.

Feel like you would still get 1 charge of Jack s1 even vs Rosy.

[cedar orbit]

Sadly Jackal vs Rosanna feed is kind of a blank for me

Wonder if Jackal herself getting hit would generate any energy

[swift mango]

She would Regen in full.

That's a reason you put Jackal in p1 + Biscuit vs Rossanna.

[cedar orbit]

Back to this, in 2.5 RL, the 4 rocket launchers feed 8 hits into the enemy, Cindy feeds 11. If we assume enemy team has 3 quantum cubes, it's 91 energy+3.5 from Jackal feeding. As soon As Cindy makes her 12th attack, enemy team will be at 98 energy. Scarlet probably counters at least 4 times in 20 hits, so enemy team is probably 2.66 RL. Lvl 7 quantum cubes are a big if tho on lvl 260 sync lvl.

I'm unsure if 0.66 RL is enough leeway for Cindy to go through Noah

[glacial lion]

meta will change if champ arena req 5 team anw, 2rl too expensive

[swift mango]

You only need to win 3 team. 2rl is fine.

[cedar orbit]

2 RL won't be too expensive with our dual clip RL

[grizzled bone]

We don't know that for sure though

[gaunt cypress]

your bracket looks really tough, what your lvl 480+ ? that whale with 5M he must be around 600

[quick lake]

Day 1 🐳

[gaunt cypress]

3M CP usually at lvl 480+

[quick lake]

Still no CA update

[gaunt cypress]

still no fixed sync lvl update

[pseudo atlas]

you are on spot on top 1 !!
meanwhile me goes down to diamond 1

[gaunt cypress]

It's not that bad tbh, considering your opponent level is much higher.

just dont waste your gems on EGO BATTLE

[spiral onyx]

Do it

[covert lintel]

i still not 3m

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-dark-kermit-gif-13921433

[vapid lake]

Depends, sometime if u show ur main rival u willing to gem to take back ur spot they might stop attacking u entirely

Then they wont bother u for weeks

[cedar orbit]

Nah, just make them lose 700 gems

[gaunt cypress]

make sure they don't get any gems rewards from SP

[covert lintel]

when did this skill change?

so now no jackal buff for scarlet?

[spiral onyx]

It's always been like that since the beginning

Jackal never buffed Scarlet

She used to buff 2B but apparently that was a "bug" and they fixed it, instructions nerfing 2B

[gaunt cypress]

I hope they change A2 burst skill.

Mode B
Cooldown: 40s
■ Affects self.
Mode B:
Own HP decreases every second while ATK and Charge Speed increase. If own HP dips below 40%, Mode B is deactivated.
Effect 1: Current HP ▼ 3.99% every 1 sec.
Effect 2: ATK ▲ 15.19%
Effect 3: Charge Speed ▲ 35.88%.

[spiral onyx]

A2 is dead unless they buff her attack speed further to be like Scalter

But that's won't ever happen for collab units

[cedar orbit]

Her hp drain is flavour from Nier Automata

[swift mango]

Or they just do their 2 attack on you whenever they online if no one attack them.

[strange linden]

Need advice against these comps
Lost twice already yesterday

[tropic summit]

post your box Aki, just to have the full picture

meanwhile:

i'm dealing with a similar whale lineups myself, i'm wiping their 4RL rapu team with scarlet + blanc + RH (3RL)
in your case, i'd then either 3RL emilia nuke on t3 or 2RL (with anis) or 2.5/3RL with biscuit and a p1 defender and 1 non water B3 on p3

e.g. for T1:

noah centi SBS anis jackal

if you're not confident on noah surviving

noah centi sbs biscuit jackal (lose a bit on RL to gain time to let noah cast and get SBS to tank rosanna's burst)

B3 could also be any non eletrical weak burster, not necessarely SBS (e.g. cinderella, keep in mind emi if you use cind rather place her on p4 or p5)

[swift mango]

T1 or 2, wipe them with 2RL Cindy.

T3, just use the common

Blanc+Emilia+RH+Biscuit+Centi. Or use Noah instead of Blanc if you worry about SBS and confidence your Emilia have enough dmg. Noah+Crown+Emilia+RH+Biscuit if you have enough charge speed on Emi and Noah.

[strange linden]

#pvp-arena message

Should be the same

[tropic summit]

ok perfect, gave you also a reference in the other server 😉

[cedar orbit]

Just like Blood said, the answer is always 2 RL Cinderella

[strange linden]

what's the other server? I'm only in this one for Nikke lol

[strange linden]

lost the first one trying on T1 but won the second on trying on T2 instead
why did I lose here? should have switched jackal and rumani since the latter is more squishy?

[swift mango]

Their team was too strong in normal attack somehow. Did you check for deficit? Just attack T2 instead.

[strange linden]

deficit should be fine 830k vs 864k

[swift mango]

Yeah I would just attack T2 instead...

Jackal+Rumani+Centi+Cindy+Laplace treasure

[covert lintel]

rosanna burst knockout all linked unit and xanne managed to revive scarlet

[strange linden]

yeah tried on T2 with the same team, it worked 👍

oh I didn't even noticed scarlet then revived again lol

[swift mango]

Scarlet revived alter everyone already ded but Cindy.

[swift mango]

I figured you could have won with this team if Noise is invested enough.

Noise could use Vigor. I think, providing Jackal could get one charge of her skill 1.

Cinderella to P5 though since they have Noir targeting P5.

[strange linden]

oh maybe, didn't thought of using noise for 2RL

[swift mango]

There were 2 problem I could spot here.

The first was they had a strong auto attack against your team.

But more importantly, the second, Laplace+ killed Scarlet before Cindy could burst and allowed Rossanna to burst early, killing half of your team.

[strange linden]

oh yeah she's electric and laplace iron
damn, I was quite unlucky lol

maybe that's why he didn't put jackal with her, got baited quite hard

[swift mango]

He could have sent you a messenger in chat.

[swift mango]

Yeah, I should mind my own business. Your suggestion was pretty much the same when I looked at it. The Team 1 was great because no one dying to give Rossanna burst gen...

Sorry

But Noah+Biscuit+Jackal on same team though... Maybe use Jackal for another team and use Anis instead...

Noah+Anis/Centi+Biscuit+SBS+Rumani would still be 2RL.

Then wipe team 2 with, Scarlet+Blanc+RH+Centi/Anis+Jackal...

[round pilot]

Any better team I can make or improvement? Recently many lost.

[wicked horizon]

Think I can kill Blanc before they burst?

Probably not...

[keen vapor]

I ignored my duties

[keen vapor]

I remembered why, images are not charging

[keen vapor]

Uh, no

RH will take care of burst rotation

I rather Noah biscuit this

[wicked horizon]

Is ok, I attacked someone else.

[keen vapor]

Pog

[keen vapor]

Try this

[round pilot]

Rumani skill recommend please

7/7/7/?

[keen vapor]

4s

She serves battery purposes

4 is enough

[round pilot]

Oh ok.

Who to replace quantum cube for her?

Biscult, Noise or Noah?

[keen vapor]

None of those should be using quantum lol

Noise and Noah goes with tempering cube (Blanc too)

Biscuit can go with Vigor

[round pilot]

Lol, i got 6 slot. That why I just whack them with Quantum

[keen vapor]

Then you have enough space for Centi, jackal, rumani, Anis and Emilia

[round pilot]

Emilia also quantum. Been using Bastion in awhile

[keen vapor]

[round pilot]

Noise also go Vigor right?

[keen vapor]

She can

I prefer Tempering so she survives against strong opponents

[round pilot]

i see but currently only level 4. Gonna invest next.

If Vigor 7 vs Temperiing 4. Should be Vigor 7 better right?

[keen vapor]

Gotcha

Everyone will get max union chips rewards

[round pilot]

No Day 1 Clear

[keen vapor]

Well.... With that level difference, yes? CP padding is also important after all

But Damage Taken effect is stronger

[tropic summit]

Feels familiar

[keen vapor]

[strong hull]

Yea

Those Chinese took it for too long

[swift mango]

For one season.

[tropic summit]

call an ambulance

[keen vapor]

But not for you

[keen vapor]

Blood, malogro choose violence as well :deadge: he's even higher synch than Abathur (370)

It's so dorover

[tropic summit]

@keen vapor such bullies

everyone choosing violence meanwhile in my bracket there are spinning tumbleweeds

maybe it's time to open the stash of hidden red dust?

[lunar dirge]

took it from what i was sending?

aand

is it discord light theme?

ew

[keen vapor]

I took it from Rail tracer

[lunar dirge]

true

but

what is the 2nd question?

[keen vapor]

No

[lunar dirge]

[tropic summit]

i'm actually honored

[lunar dirge]

honored by what?

by misinfo academy guy using your sheet?

[tropic summit]

gonna need a 🚒 for that 🔥

[lunar dirge]

[keen vapor]

If only I had Emilia 21 for this

[tropic summit]

if only i had Emilia 21 for this

abnormal selector doko

[keen vapor]

Moran gaming

[lunar dirge]

actually

you don't need one

[strong hull]

Trust me guy Moran isnt that tank ahh moment

[cedar orbit]

ever since XMaiden's release, running your only burster in P1 is dangerous

[tropic summit]

that changes on synch lvl 450-500 +

[lunar dirge]

i do centi anis cinderella rumani xmaiden

emilia and clip rl's are interchangable

[tropic summit]

indom emilia is the true cancer anyway, not the battery version

[lunar dirge]

i use blanc in scar rh team,so

[tropic summit]

so indom duel between scar and emilia? better odds there i guess

[lunar dirge]

i mean

i usually just clap it with:blanc cindy bscuit rumani bsoda

[tropic summit]

oh oke makes sense

[cedar orbit]

I'm sure people have my team beaten

[lunar dirge]

that's actually

[tropic summit]

noah s.anis stall yeah

[lunar dirge]

the fate of any pvp defence

[cedar orbit]

I think most people choose to skip this

[lunar dirge]

nope,og s.anis godcomp isn'tbeating this one

[cedar orbit]

if you run S.Anis, it's a 2 RL

Anis just loses to it

[lunar dirge]

true

ans she is 100% dead from scarlet's s2

+nuke

[tropic summit]

eh i could go look up the video but i cba

[lunar dirge]

i literally did it today

[tropic summit]

rapu just revives s.anis

[keen vapor]

My Rumani isn't invested while Emilia is my highest CP battery ~~if we don't count Rapunzel ~~

[lunar dirge]

and then she dies again

[tropic summit]

not during noah burst

she kills everyone minus scarlet, who then dies to stall on noah and biscuit

[lunar dirge]

well,after it's over,blanc lasts for 10s,remember

[tropic summit]

meh gonna see if i find the video

[lunar dirge]

i also did this to beat 2 rl cindy btw

empty p2

and then just did scar blanc rh

[tropic summit]

mhm makes sense

empty p2 changes a lot of things

[cedar orbit]

I run this jank into it, but my Moran is tanky enough to not drop below half before full burst

[lunar dirge]

1.noah won't block scar nuke 2.s.anis makes this team 2 rl 3.even if 1 person in s.anis teams dies,it's not 3rl anymore

[tropic summit]

there's 2 variants, i might be mixing them up tho

one is with noah noise sbs biscuit jackal

then you stall on noah while sbs clears them up

[keen vapor]

Why Biscuit burst with no Summer Anis smh

[tropic summit]

the s.anis one i kinda wanna find the video

[strange linden]

Damn I'm almost running this
Glad to see even this comp has big flaws 🥲

[lunar dirge]

dude,i literally beat godcomp s.anis with scar blanc rh today

[tropic summit]

there's not a single comp without

[cedar orbit]

Cinderella>S.Anis

[tropic summit]

it's not the official god comp, it's a variant with rapu reviving s.anis to get her in noah burst and kill backline

[lunar dirge]

so noah noise s.anis rapu biscuit?

[tropic summit]

eh good question, i need to look up the vid

[lunar dirge]

it's literally

the og god comp lmao

[tropic summit]

that's why i'm saying it's not that one

[lunar dirge]

then why tf you started arguaing about this

[strange linden]

True, you need to regularly change your team once people find out holes
I'm not good enough for that

[tropic summit]

you can always learn even from failures, that's how people improve anyway

[cedar orbit]

literally can't change my team once beaten, if only 1 dude can beat it, it's good enough

[lunar dirge]

true

[cedar orbit]

although I am extremely annoyed by getting hit twice right after reset, then having no attacks left for the whole day

[lunar dirge]

once i'll use maxed out laplacet

[cedar orbit]

literally 0 IQ play to hit a guy when they are on

[lunar dirge]

i should be pretty strong in my bracket

[tropic summit]

there's a team i'd like to try but i lack emilia for it

noah rh emi laplace xmaiden

the triple splash might delete p2 even on revive attempts

[lunar dirge]

just more tactics for ya

[cedar orbit]

XMaiden only hits 1 target with her skill afaik

[lunar dirge]

hit p1 once,they dead

hit p2 twice,they are dead again

[tropic summit]

xmaiden autos don't splash on p2?

[lunar dirge]

repeat

[bleak shale]

the auto splashes p2, the extra hit doesnt

[tropic summit]

oh naruhodo

[lunar dirge]

they splash,but main damage goes to p1 only

[bleak shale]

she also doesnt get atk up whenm she doesnt burst iirc

[tropic summit]

uh shame then 🤨

[bleak shale]

slap an a2 in there

[cedar orbit]

xmaiden made me SR doll Centi

[bleak shale]

[tropic summit]

was kinda curious on having 3 splashers who also happen to be decent batteries with OL lines on charge damage and CS

then buffing them up with RH

toss in some atk% OL

[strange linden]

If it is against similar cp players
Shouldn't be impossible to win def anyway?

[tropic summit]

it's pretty much like that, if you're not winning you're likely not playing your cards right

on the assumption of equal investiment and equal nikke possession

rock paper scissor

[swift mango]

If this is rookie I would just mirror and mald at it until my Blanc being 0.1-0.2RL slower than yours.

Just for fun.

Ofc I need to get Jackal first.

[cedar orbit]

this is our rookie arena meta

[swift mango]

Just Emi it...

[cedar orbit]

most people probably who could run Emilia get CP diffed by me

for Emilia to kill, she needs Red Hood and Blanc

and she also needs Jackal to not get insta gibbed

[swift mango]

Defend

[tropic summit]

where's your cinderella? I thought you were a loyal follower

[lunar dirge]

blanc scar rh it,or cp gap too?

[cedar orbit]

I use this comp into my meta

[lunar dirge]

jackal isn't helping much

[cedar orbit]

Emi just dies if you doN't protect her

[tropic summit]

where's cindy

and dayum core 3 RH 🤔

[swift mango]

Defending on investment vs investment tbh.

[cedar orbit]

idk, CIndy is bugged, 2 RL Cindy hits into Noah, she killed Biscuit under Noah shield

[swift mango]

But if ded then Jackal yeah.

[tropic summit]

emi with just 1 buff can't clear at 439 synch level? @swift mango

e.g. emi RH

[cedar orbit]

I ran a few tries when CIndy came out, every time Biscuit died, everyone else had immunity via Noah

[swift mango]

Idk but I always go 2 buffs or go home.

[tropic summit]

hmm interesting

[swift mango]

Not helping that I hit whale 40lv above me. 1 buff not enough

[cedar orbit]

and I ran a lot of tries into this team, Emi doesn't even 1-shot Anis with 2 buffs, she needs a hit or two after her burst

granted, it's probably a lvl 15 SR doll and lvl 10 Noise burst

[swift mango]

You could have 3 buff Emilia with Jackal team.

[cedar orbit]

it literally doesn't matter, since I win every time

[tropic summit]

i dunno i'm more shocked by the fact iris plays something that doesn't involve cindy

not sure i'll be able to sleep tonight 🤔

[cedar orbit]

I can throw away an attempt to try 2 RL Cindy again

[tropic summit]

obviously just kidding, don't haha

[cedar orbit]

I curious what happened tho, how did Biscuit die every time

while everyone else just lived with full hp

[swift mango]

I saw many people wipe team with Emi+Red at lv401+ here before. But many claim 1 buff not enough.

So I guess it's about investment.

[tropic summit]

yeah might have to do with emilia having OL lines with atk%

maybe if emi has 30-40% atk OL doesn't need a second buff, stuff like that

[cedar orbit]

it could work with lvl 10 skill and 40% attack OL, but keep in mind that in my case, there is also a Noise burst going on

[swift mango]

The opposite defense team has sr5+ doll or not. Use Noise/Moran or not. Having Biscuit or not. Matter more.

I think.

[tropic summit]

mhm makes sense

as emilialess, that actually gives me hope surviving that shiet in certain scenarios then

[cedar orbit]

don't worry, most of the time people use Emilia as a battery

[swift mango]

Emi+RH would often wipe attacker but defender could survive and with 5 sec biscuit buff would leave you 1-2 sec left to clear 50%+ of defender with your Normal attack. Which often lead to lose game if they already wiped your team... This is Blanc team though so 2 buffs...

But if you use Noah then should fine. Then again, vs Nosie team they could just heal up and maybe whole team survived ...

[cedar orbit]

although, I do admit, without Emilia, it can be hard to run 2 RL Cindy in SP

my Cindy doesn't get immunity when Emilia insta pops Biscuit

[swift mango]

Emilia is more about countering Noah though. They likely won't hit your Scarlet team with it.

[tropic summit]

i'm more concerned about my non-scarlet team

although the other one involves cindy at least

i definitly gonna need to build le rosanna tho

the sacc plays seem really big fun

[bleak shale]

i always think my opponent will/wont do something

and then they dont do it cuz they dunno how to pvp

when we know too much and expect the enemy to know too much

[swift mango]

I keep delay building up my Rossana.... When I really need her to improve my defense...

Sigh#

[lunar dirge]

or just empty p2

[swift mango]

Sarc play doesn't need you to handicap CP. Scarlet would often just ded in 2rl without protection.

[cedar orbit]

just play better, so she doesn't die

[lunar dirge]

sacc needs to cp handicap sometimes

[swift mango]

Unless opponent know what they are doing and reduce dmg in their team lol

[tropic summit]

yeah but the CP

CP is crying in pain and despair against whalerino and equal sweaty bois

[lunar dirge]

beating 2 rl cindy by dragging it to the mud is fun tho

[tropic summit]

oh ye, that be def. true

[cedar orbit]

people in my bracket run 4 RL Cindy

[lusty gull]

i made an app, at the moment, mainly focusing on pvp, don't hesitate to give feedback
https://nikke-deck.web.app/

[gaunt cypress]

emi nuke sometime wont work against this meta,

[cedar orbit]

nvm she does get it

[tropic summit]

does your moran sometimes remember to take damage?

[cedar orbit]

she is invincible

[tropic summit]

that's an actual double buff emilia, interesting as i'll need that lineup on CA for sure

but... building moran...

[swift mango]

Well ur team was basically a 4-5 RL team to block Emilia (defending on your Emi CS) ofc you would win.

But no one would attack this team with Emilia 3rl unless they doesn't know arena.

Just 3 RL wipe it.

[sudden crag]

Anyone know how to counter this team?

[kindred tinsel]

is that 4/4/4 moran?

[kindred tinsel]

cindy team with high rl should work

[cedar orbit]

She is 4/7/7 with lvl 5 SR doll

[sudden crag]

Cindy... who do you suggest?

[kindred tinsel]

noise xanne cindy emilla rumani

[swift mango]

Just use good ole

Scarlet+Blanc+RH+Centi+Jackal

[kindred tinsel]

[lone sequoia]

dead pepper=dead team

[swift mango]

Okay it was 4RL team. That allow only 1sec after biscuit immunity end and before Blanc indom to hit your Cindy. Hmmm. I guess you could counter Emilia like that too.

I would advise them bring 3 buff Emilia to beat you though if they ever want to throw Emilia to attack your team.

[proud prairie]

@cedar orbit @tropic summit She is trully invincible:

[tropic summit]

3 hours later

but ye, point stands

[cedar orbit]

1 damage

[misty finch]

Does this win?

[proud prairie]

How about Moran/Noah/Cindy/RH/Jackal?

[kindred tinsel]

dont think so

[swift mango]

Move Cindy to p4

[cedar orbit]

both of those teams look giga slow

[swift mango]

It's 3rl vs 4rl.

Your Moran team was also 4rl

[cedar orbit]

yeah, but I faced Emilia and speed doesn't matter vs her

and you know I actually hit SA with the intent to win all 3 matches

[kindred tinsel]

could this team work if invested

[cedar orbit]

no speed

[misty finch]

What does this do? Does her decoy cause extra burst gen?

[swift mango]

I often win all 3 matches. Especially against those of same level. Just CP gap 1 team then beat other 2 with good teams.

[strange linden]

need a new def comp, my old have been beaten by everyone my rank

I was using this

[swift mango]

Yes.

[proud prairie]

Raid enjoyer?

[strange linden]

uuh yeah?

[swift mango]

But yeah, valid reason in doing so, it was a good build.
I could try to copy.

No one in my bracket use Emi nuke in defense though...

[tropic summit]

they know you've got jackal and noah

[swift mango]

You mean "haven't"?

[cedar orbit]

give me Rosanna and I will just start copying peoples build

[proud prairie]

Noah/Cindy/RH/Centi/Jackal?

[tropic summit]

aki you already running very meta oriented teams, you might want to show us who are the people you losing to, at least their def teams

the alternative would be to throw in a 4RL sustain team and a 2RL burst team, while keeping a CP padded 3rd team

[swift mango]

You should check for CP and investment. These team are rather great already...

Only problem would be Cindy team, Rumani and Anis would be pretty easy to die.

---

And S.Anis team not hitting 3rl..

[strange linden]

it's actually my highest one lol

I guess I can improve their OL gears, that's the best I can do currently

[swift mango]

There is also problem of S.Anis team not hitting 3RL...

[swift mango]

And this team Anis has a high chance to just die before Rumani even.

[vapid lake]

threw 20 rainbow ticket cope and got her

leggo ready for CA

[tropic summit]

i think that one is on purpose for this:

noah kicks in at 3.8RL, B3 of general 3RL nuke kicks in at around 4.1RL

[vapid lake]

https://tenor.com/view/i-saw-what-you-deleted-cat-gif-16534979835682612734

[tropic summit]

it's essentially a bait delayed sustain 🤔

[swift mango]

I mean their team hitting 3rl then it's fine.

My bad. ...

[proud prairie]

I saw it

[tropic summit]

no worries, it's still a 4RL team but it has a meaning

it plays on the fact that it seems a 4RL but noah will counter the 3RL, i've seen it a few times

[strange linden]

Munch advice me this comp so I trust it should work lol
too bad people already found the counter
I wish I can see which comp lost

[tropic summit]

ye you prolly dealing with someone who knows what they doing... or they've tried often enough against you to figure the pattern on brute force

you could try playing more on indom comps and 2RLs

[proud prairie]

the team losing is Sanis/Cindy

[tropic summit]

@swift mango is an expert on indom emilia for example, if he has some suggestions

[swift mango]

Often Emilia to destroy Noah.

And 2RL SBS+Noah to destroy Cindy.

[swift mango]

I'm suck at it.

I mean, I hate Blanc vs Blanc. But keep trying to figure it's out. Self torture.

[oblique magnet]

lol, i meant to delete the account name before uploading. i triggered my local whale in rookie arena - this is all from defense on the same day, so they legit paid gems for this:

[strange linden]

the latter lol, only one guy managed to beat it in one try lol
the other at least 3 before finding out

[tropic summit]

gotta 😎 to see this screenshot

[proud prairie]

Its not triggered, is cooking you

[tropic summit]

eh that's pretty good

[vapid lake]

he spent 600 gem to lose

[strange linden]

maybe he was trying to find a counter

[oblique magnet]

he is like a super whale. i wish i knew what kind of money he drops on this game

[strange linden]

or testing some comp