pvp-arena

[mossy frigate]

in terms of RL cp

[tropic summit]

those are hard counters on her

[coral haven]

I will that in mind

[terse abyss]

thx i beat him pretty soon after within the hr

getting rekt in rookie pvp now that a guy has like 100k cp over my previous #1 team lol

[coral haven]

My Ein vs Cindy both C7 but for some reason Ein outperformed my Cindy :))

[tropic summit]

how about scarlet blanc SBS centi jackal? what's the CP look like there

[tropic summit]

just right

13,5% CP deficit

[mossy frigate]

might be possible chat

[tropic summit]

now for team 1, what you got

[mossy frigate]

this is what we are sitting on atm

[tropic summit]

you facing standard 3RL (theoretically) nuke without indom or noah

e.g as long as you run 3RL noah + emilia + RH, it should 1hit KO

throw in maybe biscuit and laplace, see how far you go

[mossy frigate]

might be a bit rough

[tropic summit]

anyone higher CP'ed than laplace left?

[mossy frigate]

cindy lol

[tropic summit]

let's see

[tropic summit]

that's still 3RL, you'd wipe

play it safe and rotate lineup like

noah biscuit emilia RH cindy, don't want emilia to risk getting killed by splash dmg and RNG counters

[mossy frigate]

yahhh

[tropic summit]

ok, let it rain

my bad feeling is on team 3, due to rosanna, but let's see

[mossy frigate]

t3 did something right

[tropic summit]

oh the noah + emilia failed?

[mossy frigate]

yeaaa

[tropic summit]

didn't wiperoni or what happened

[mossy frigate]

biscuit died first

followed by emi + rh

[tropic summit]

xanne hurts more than i expected or your biscuit is rather squishy, was she running vigor and 4OL? 🤔

as in, you bursted and then emilia nuked but didn't clear, or you got killed before bursting?

[mossy frigate]

yah shes running OL, not the best of subs. my vigor is also only lvl 5 lol

[mossy frigate]

pre sure i didnt get burst off

[tropic summit]

still rather surprising biscuit dies on a 3RL pre burst

next you can run then the even safer approach

noah cindy emi rh biscuit

this should ensure biscuit gets her passives off on noah and cindy

[mossy frigate]

bruh

biscuit is 5/7/5

[tropic summit]

yeah rather strange she died

inb4 RNG counters from scarlet, that's dumb luck

[mossy frigate]

ill record the run on reset

[tropic summit]

but i guess noah cindy emi rh biscuit would work then, p1 and p2 will be invulnerable up until burst due to biscuit in p5

[mossy frigate]

im more surprised t3 locked in

[tropic summit]

eh yeah i was more skeptical on the rosanna comp

kinda salty i didn't suggest cindy in p2 to begin with, really didn't expect 3 non-dps oriented RLs to kill p2 with splash

keep that in mind for tomorrow tho, you can likely win this (although beware cindy in p2 will steal burst3, we might want to reconsider biscuit for a tankier option like noise)

[mossy frigate]

thank

[mossy frigate]

lol im pretty sure i would of made it

realised emi didnt have OL

[tropic summit]

oh damn

[mossy frigate]

[tropic summit]

that's a whopping 40k more haha

[mossy frigate]

this would of been winnable

[kindred tinsel]

can cindy replace scarlet in wipe team now?

[fathom rock]

No lol

[keen vapor]

@hexed zephyr is my favorite sport

[tropic summit]

both have nuke, but their kit and usage is quite different

also one produces 0 gen burst

[kindred tinsel]

useless

wait why do you guys have her then on teams?

[keen vapor]

"usage is quite different"

We do use her, just not in Blanc Jackal teams

[fathom rock]

Her nuke doesnt need buffers and she tanky, but useless against biscuit comps and well timed noah, her teams also need quite a lot of regen because she basically has 0

[keen vapor]

That never stopped Rosanna/Alice

[tropic summit]

not a single team in my bracket dishing out the alice and rosanna, wish i could gain more experience on them 🤔

those that do only as CP padding

[thorn pagoda]

ff i'm not used to seeing the phrase "CP" being used so frequently on discord. it usually means something else lol

[stark dragon]

wait cindy shouldnt be on jackal blanc teams?

[tropic summit]

that's rather legit, considering that it came out as the 20th

[fathom rock]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1259866797490966559

[swift mango]

Can someone guess why did I win? Their Blanc should have triggered on someone right? And since it's 4rl it should have expired 1 second later than my Emilia lol. Maybe it was because my Emilia finished her reload faster lol... Shouldn't have cut off the recording near the end .. think I would lose anyway... Turned out I won.

[fathom rock]

She clearly indom centi

[swift mango]

That was biscuit effect that made centi losing no HP. But yeah, Blanc should have indom centi.

But I won anyway...

[fathom rock]

Well the vid cuts off I can't ell the end but centi was reloading so you probably lucked out

[swift mango]

Yeah Emilia was also reloading lol that's why I shouldn't have cut off at the end 😂

[tropic summit]

that last two bullets against one last bullet would be interesting to see what happened, inb4 you dodged their shot after reload during reload animation?

rocket whiff are still a thing iirc

[quasi prism]

My shuffle wasnt bad this time around still.

I was half expecting to see you in my rookie arena honestly 🤣

[graceful grotto]

what was the rule/setup behind the shuffle actually?

[tropic summit]

The Rookie Arena reshuffle in Goddess of Victory: Nikke occurs approximately every 2-3 months, as stated in community guides and official event announcements. These reshuffles aim to regroup players into new mini-servers based on rank and activity level, ensuring fair matchups and refreshing the competitive landscape

[graceful grotto]

'fair' lmao

[tropic summit]

keep in mind reset and reshuffle are different, a season is resetted every 14 days, a bracket reshuffle every 2-3 months

[graceful grotto]

i somehow got shuffle into weaker lineup

just gonna sleep until the next reshuffle i supposed

[tropic summit]

well rookie arena is a training ground of sort with limited rewards

you don't need to invest yourself too much into it

grab your 5 wins against opponents you can handle and just ignore it if it helps

[graceful grotto]

SPA reshuffle when?

still gonna petition to let us view replay on our defense hahaha

[tropic summit]

In Special Arena, you are fitted into a server of minimum 200 ranked players, the total number of which can increase to a maximum of 5000, which reshuffle and readjust according to account creation date every 3 months.

iirc around december/end of december? 🤔

[graceful grotto]

thanks bud

[umbral crown]

si

[swift mango]

The same team but it went completely different this time.

So yeah, I can't test what happened anymore.

So I will just guess Blanc was triggered on Centi and expired.

[tropic summit]

uh curios

first match biscuit didn't activate for cindy, but for centi, cindy dies.
second match biscuit activated for cindy, cindy lives

and ofc respective indom 🤔

[swift mango]

First match, Drake normal attack Crit on Centi. 2nd match, Emilia normal attack Crit on Cindy.

Too random result so I will just use my tried and true 2.5RL Cinderella against them.

[tropic summit]

ah that'd reduce variables alright

cut straight to the chase

[fathom rock]

After current season ends

[tropic summit]

the winds of change are coming

[keen vapor]

Since Cindy is defender she will get higher HP than jackal very easily (bc imagine investing the same amount of resources for both a Pilgrim and jackal

So you won't be getting indom buff on Cindy

[crystal surge]

suggestion?

[keen vapor]

Also, Cindy's Decoy does weird things like giving extra burst gen to the enemy team

[keen vapor]

Skip round 3 by putting one unit alone let me see for the rest

[crystal surge]

ok

[stark dragon]

noted

[keen vapor]

Uh.... The CP difference is massive, your teams that can actually burst will be wrecked by CP diff

[stark dragon]

oh my goodness

[stark dragon]

can u help me fix my teams? Im concerned ill get shot down

gpodbye

[keen vapor]

Sure

@crystal surge you need to invest more

[crystal surge]

damn, alright

[keen vapor]

C1

So flex

[keen vapor]

I need box your units

Ideally you shouldn't be using Guilty to begin with

[tropic summit]

post your box, makes it easier to make teams for you

[stark dragon]

flex :3

[stark dragon]

Ion have jackal

[keen vapor]

A video I quit

[stark dragon]

goodbye

[keen vapor]

Trony

Time to cook

[tropic summit]

i'll set the table 🍴

[keen vapor]

No biscuit but we have noise

@stark dragon is served

Be sure to put quantum cube on Anis, Soda will get invested in the long run for raids so that's why I picked her over other SG units for team 3

Also, overload every unit specially the ones on the first positions, they need to tank damage the first seconds of the round to be able to burst

Neither Moran, Noise or Noah needs high investment in skills so you don't have to worry about that

Well, Moran will need higher investment if you encounter a RH owner

[swift mango]

I would say Moran and Noise need high investment in skill later on if they don't go with Blanc or Noah and want to help tank a wipe.

S3 mainly

[keen vapor]

I'll refuse to give more mats to Noise before Moran

[swift mango]

RH though, no amount of skill investments could help you tank that without Biscuit or Blanc.

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Well, I guess the Moran+Nero gaming from Merry could do it somehow... Since it reduced Nero dmg taken to 0.

[keen vapor]

Poggers

[strong hull]

[stark dragon]

Very different from my current setup

But i shall work towards rhis

[keen vapor]

Whenever you get Jackal you can upgrade your Blanc team

[stark dragon]

Is my current setup remotely good

all those units will need huge invest and more synchro slots

i am broke kekw

[keen vapor]

In the meantime, swap Alice and Rapunzel positions

SBS and Privaty positions

Replace guilty with Noah and swap positions with Bay

Oh wait, Noah for team 2 uuuhhh what other battery we can use

[stark dragon]

Wouldnt i want to burst with

privaty, for stun

[keen vapor]

I need Cindy team to be faster....

[keen vapor]

Is better to deal a humongous damage while being invincible

[strong hull]

Noah Noise rapunzel Sanis Biscuit comp work?

[keen vapor]

I use that, yes

[stark dragon]

Sanis carry

[swift mango]

Noah favorite item when? She is year one nikke and already in silver shop.

[strong hull]

Brilliant 🤝

I was thinking put Alice stead Anis lol

Since my Anis wasnt invested

[stark dragon]

I didnt realise thar

[swift mango]

Noise wants higher CS than Noah

[stark dragon]

but then privaty has no use kek

[strong hull]

Ic

[keen vapor]

Alice bricks the team at 4RL

[keen vapor]

She's buffing

[stark dragon]

4RL?

[keen vapor]

Slow team in a nutshell

[swift mango]

Get her to 8-x-9 and resilience cube lv7, that's enough for her to get 100 reload speed on one bullet mag.

I remember she wanted 109% reload speed to be optimal according to Prydwen or GG but that's would need her to go with Crown or Privaty.

[strong hull]

[strong hull]

Alr

[fresh moss]

currently setting up my sp arena defense, got these 2 teams so far, tips for improvements+3rd team suggestions? got everything besides rapunzel, xanne and rumani

[keen vapor]

Compare CP for Cindy team with the next changes

Replacing Guilty and rouge for Maiden and Sugar

[stark dragon]

Huh

[strong hull]

Psss hey dont insult me i was build for nacho scar comp

[keen vapor]

RH doesn't buffs, and Scarlet burst stays weak

Second team is fine

I would swap places for Pepper and Biscuit tho

[strong hull]

Can we use blanc there?

[swift mango]

Gg

[keen vapor]

That's what we normally use yes

Scarlet Blanc Centi RH jackal@fresh moss

[glacial lion]

Still win

[strong hull]

Time to cope with pvp

[keen vapor]

Blood, I'll leave you cooking for third team, I'm getting busy

[strong hull]

[keen vapor]

This guy

[swift mango]

I guess you had the better Jackal.

[glacial lion]

Extra stats from core6 really useful here...

[fresh moss]

ok fixed 1st team, last team can be soemthing around emilia i guess? i got noah noise n stuff like that available

[tropic summit]

le chef needs their well deserve break 🫡

[strong hull]

I left my kitchen for 0.2s and they already burned it

[swift mango]

Can anyone tell me 3rd team for what?

I wasn't following and just chime in...

[spiral onyx]

lolwut?

[strong hull]

Def SPA

Actually Nacho hasnt send the full box here

[fresh moss]

oh, sec

[worthy knoll]

Bad for their sales

[swift mango]

Her banner is over though.

[worthy knoll]

Yeah ik, i don't get it either. but they prolly want others to still whale for her off banner

[spiral onyx]

The Cindy analysis is still up and with plenty of views and upvotes

[swift mango]

Maybe because it mentioned CA.

[spiral onyx]

Ive mentioned CA before in my previous analysis I think

[fresh moss]

full box

the 2 def comps i got so far, figuring out if last one can be around emilia with the best i got left

[swift mango]

This is probably in other people strike zone as I often build for lv250 below lol.

[umbral crown]

share your nikkes in horizontal mode

[spiral onyx]

Reddit doesn't share the reason for removal either, oh well, their loss

[swift mango]

You might want to use Liter with Scarlet and RH with Emilia if you want to build a Emilia one shot team.

As Emilia nuke will likely miss Liter 5sec buff and won't be strong enough to wipe anything.

[swift mango]

It would be easier to build a SBS stall team with what you have left and use Emilia as battery. Emilia one shot can be easily countered in Defense anyway

[swift mango]

Anyway

Noise+Noah+SBS+Rapunzel+Emilia

Noah has more CS than Noise. It should work as a third team.

[fresh moss]

lol i was just trying to figure out a last unit to put in here to ask for feedback (no rapun)

[swift mango]

Uhm... Ludmilla?

Lol take it with a grain of salt

[fresh moss]

Rosanna strip buffs so she would help stall maybe? bruh why did i skip rumani banner

[fresh moss]

will go with that i guess lol, tyvm

[swift mango]

I guess you could use Rossanna. It's still 3rl.

Pretty yank if you ask me. But looks fun.

Better than Ludmilla maybe, probably haha

[swift mango]

Also you could try

Noah+Crown+SBS+Emilia+Noise... If you could be sure Noah and Noise won't be killed... And they don't have Jackal.

[fresh moss]

hopefully an attacker would feel the need to spend jackal in my sanis 2nd comp 🧐

[swift mango]

Alternatively

Noise+Noah+Cindy+Rouge+Emilia.

3RL team that buff Cindy one shot... Idk.

Noah still need to have higher charge speed than Noise. So maybe put CS cube on Noah if both having no CS line.

[fresh moss]

ill go with cindy then, i feel its ez clap for a noah but i got scarlet in another team which is also hard countered by noah, maybe i can throw a couple of attackers off like that idk

tyvm for the insight mate

forgot bay exists, but i doubt at my level there would be a lot of dedicated pvp players to srsly build a bay lol

[swift mango]

There is also Emma you could use in SBS team in P5 who also gives out Heal in case Noise ded and counter SG. Jackal feed though.

So either putting Rossanna, Emma, maybe Liter into SBS team. Or just use another non B1. And hope Noise won't die. Or use Cindy team... Yeah

[swift mango]

Since you mentioned Bay... Maybe ?

Noah+Noise+SBS+Bay+Emilia

Noah needs less CS than Noise in this case. Bay could help stall in case Noah ded.

[fresh moss]

y not, bay is hot af anyways it feels nice to find a use for her

[swift mango]

To be frank though, they are all unbuilt and you would be better off with an Auto team right now.

[keen vapor]

Bay good for champion arena trust

[swift mango]

Would be good when CA happened as you saved enough core dust boxes for Nikke2

[fresh moss]

oh i got resources to get emilia max skills n stuff, and bay dont need skills right?

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

Bay still need OL gear and doll. Skill 3-3-3 is fine for padding a bit.

Actually all arena units need OL and doll...

[keen vapor]

Sora No Otoshimono collab pls

[fresh moss]

oh boye

[swift mango]

Auto attack to win

[swift mango]

That manga is pretty old... Claymore Collab pls...

[umbral crown]

i would have prefered you sync your units to have a better idea but....

SP Defense
Scarlet-Blanc-Red Hood-Noir-Jackal
Noah-Noise-S.Anis-Biscuit-A2
SBS-Emilia-Liter-Bay-Centi

you need to sync the units you using and the invested ones to have a clear idea the units you have been working

having them out of sync its really hard to tell

[fresh moss]

if this is ideal im willing to work on these teams next, im happy where i am as a f2p in pve, i dont think i can push much more from where i am focusing more on pve, i neglected pvp for this entire time so i want to be able to be at low challenger maybe? thats my next goal

[twilit bay]

What's a good team against (Rookie)
Noise/ Noah/ SBS/ Biscuit/ Jackal? (SBS and Biscuit are linked)

Blanc/ Emilia/ RH/ Biscuit/ Jackal works most of the time, but sometimes I lose

[swift mango]

Kinda copium on t3, t1 as well... Not really idea.

Your first 2 teams are more meta if invested enough.

[swift mango]

But they are cheaper for you to use asap for sure.

[swift mango]

Could you tell how did you lose?

[fresh moss]

ill do 3rd auto team for now i suppose while i work on the 1st two... umm by auto you mean auto select btw? not sure if you mean high cp stuff lol

[swift mango]

Well, you could probably try

Blanc+Emilia+RH+Biscuit+Crown if your Emilia had above 21% charge speed (including s1).

Assume your Emilia won't die before bursting.

[swift mango]

Auto team for high CP yeah... Work on one team at a time

[swift mango]

You should work on T1 of your first team then T2 Rosy suggested

[fresh moss]

noted

[twilit bay]

I don't trigger biscuit's invuln on noah before full burst.
In the end, It's Noah + Jackal against my Jackal + Biscuit

[swift mango]

Yeah could try the team I suggested. It's a bit slower defending on Emilia charge speed so Emilia would survive longer under Blanc. Plus, Emilia hit harder with 3 buff.

[twilit bay]

Makes sense, Blanc + Biscuit will block SBS in the meantime, right?

[shrewd lily]

ass

[swift mango]

Idk who SBS will hit as there are no taunt but I guess you know more.

[shrewd lily]

need defense teams for SP arena and require assistance

lmk if i need to invest in any units

[umbral crown]

keep working in your units

[tropic summit]

build 3 out of one of these:

scarlet blanc rh centi jackal
rumani anis cinderella emilia21 noir
noah noise s.anis biscuit rapunzel

Scarlet Blanc Laplace+ Red Hood Jackal
Noah Noise S.Anis Biscuit Rapunzel

scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
centi rumani anis cinderella emilia(or CLIP SG)

keep in mind def teams can get countered, i'm suggesting you combinations that are deemed "high win rate" but it depends strictly on the opponent

[shrewd lily]

no emilia, scarlet, laplace+, or rumani

[tropic summit]

aye that's fine, just build as many as you can out of these, with whatever is left over we'll take a look

post teams with the respective empty slots in case

[shrewd lily]

all my def teams right?

[tropic summit]

ye those are def teams

[tropic summit]

no i mean, make the teams with the nikke i provided above and show whatever slot is left open and we can then merge and tweak around, e.g.:

scarlet blanc rh centi jackal

you said you don't have scarlet, it would look like this:

[shrewd lily]

ohh thanks

[shrewd lily]

and my units are posted above

[tropic summit]

oh ok so team 3 is actually fine

[oblique magnet]

happy to see my pvp bracket has calmed down a lot since the anni ended, lol

[tropic summit]

we could weaken a bit t3 by freeing up biscuit and using her in t2

[shrewd lily]

swap noahs position w biscuit?

[tropic summit]

t1 pmaid blanc rh flex jackal - this needs pmaid to be linked with jackal (has to be highest atk, likely with redhood)
t2 anis cindy biscuit centi pepper
t3 noah noise s.anis rapu flex

for flex, put anything that offers high CP or passive buffs

@shrewd lily ^

[swift mango]

Also, you could try

Noise+Centi+Anis/Rumanj+Jackal+Cindy (2rl buffed Cindy)

All 3 clip RL want Quantum level 7, except if you use Anis instead of Rumani you could do without.

If there is enough feed you could but Noah in as well, you would need to test it yourself.

[twilit bay]

I'll try that out next, I realised that Noah+Biscuit+Emilia+RH+Crown might work after your comment about taunt (It did work).

[oblique magnet]

IMO, instead of trying to build 3 decent teams, build 2 super meta teams, and the last one should whatever is left with high CP (and still burstable). you only need to win 2 battles to win the match. the more compromises to the teams you make, the easier it is for someone to custom tailor a team to counter.

but at the end of the day, most people can custom tailor an attack team to take on most defenses, so don't have high expectations, lol.

[swift mango]

If it worked then you have a sure win comp. Gg.

[swift mango]

There is a small war in my bracket r4-10 it kinda keep changing place this week. R1-3 chilling though ..

[tropic summit]

same, there's 4-5 new names on these last 3 days remaining 🤔

[swift mango]

Next week could be this same peace of c1-3 or a new bracket... With my luck it would be the later. Sigh#

[tropic summit]

eh we'll see, my reshuffles have generally brought the same scenarios with different names:

-a locked in whale in CH1
-contested CH2 and CH3, with CH2 generally ending up on the dolphin
-CH3 my only hope, contested with chinese sweaties
-CH4-CH6 safer bet, less competitive
-CH7-CH10 bunch of different names over and over

[swift mango]

I have been stuck with these guys for months now, newer Challenger just couldn't beat us top 3 anymore so they just fighting each other's.

That guy in my new rookie group could change thing if he joined.

As we would have another hard core whale in the mid.

[tropic summit]

next bracket we're together blood

with rosy aswell, now that'd be hilarious

[swift mango]

He had lower level since he doesn't buy core boxes. But dude hit using Gems without reserve.

[tropic summit]

ah, the pathetic kind

surprisingly my whale actually respects non-gemming

the few times i won on defense he didn't doubleup

🤔

[shrewd lily]

t3 to t1 in that order and for pmaid do i build her rn for her atk buffs and what not.. also can these teams be used for attacking? (ik atk teams are usually tailored for the teams ur facing but i personally just dnc about pvp that much i just want enough to stay within a good/decent spot so i can consistently get the mats from the shop)

[shrewd lily]

u can give ur input on the teams too then whichever is fine as long as its viable enough for me to just get by so i can just get the daily mats i need

[tropic summit]

i'd rather put alice in t3 in p5 instead of ein, while ein can go in flex instead of alice in t1 in p4, keep in mind that pmaid must be the 1st or 2nd highest atk% to link with jackal, so beware of that.

Yes you can use them for attack, your best teams will be t1 and t2, t3 would love to have 1 more battery or clip SG/clip RL, if you get rumani or drake/noir could put them there then this one would become also effective

in case you're in doubt you can type here in chat when you're about to fight in SP arena and we can give you a few hints

as for investing in pmaid... she's useful in tower, less in RAIDs especially when compared to ein, and strong in pvp as one of the nukers

[shrewd lily]

i have noir so for t3 who should i replace or use i have drake too but itd be better rn to build noir since she's better for pve as well since i already have blanc

[shrewd lily]

okay so for overload i should go for ATK and what other stats?

[tropic summit]

yeah noir you might end up investing in if you're without rouge, as she's needed with blanc, put noir instead of flex spot

that'd be p4

[tropic summit]

that depends on nikke, but yeah on your damage carries (RH, s.anis, ein etc) usually it's elemental dmg and atk%

[shrewd lily]

alr so alice gets replaced by noir

[shrewd lily]

any specific order of investment i should do for my units rn besides maid privy (already investing as we speak)?

[tropic summit]

the 3rd stat can depend, some nikke can use ammunition (SBS), some prefer charge speed/charge rate (RH), some could use extra crit rate

[tropic summit]

well focus should be on campaign squad 1st and foremost, ideally the following:

crown liter RH naga scarlet/SBS/cinderella

grave liter RH naga scarlet/SBS/cinderella

for campaign you should always have 1 CDR nikke (dorothy, liter, DKW), 1 B2 buffer (grave, crown, naga) and 2 or 3 carries (RH, SBS, scarlet, cindy... etc)

obviously you'll want to overload those first

[shrewd lily]

yeah i got alice, RH, cindy, crown with overload gear but i heard liter doesnt need any overload so i havent really gotten her any of that yet

[tropic summit]

yeah she doesn't, it's just CP

can level her for last in terms of campaign team on that front

[shrewd lily]

does the CP boost from it matter?

[tropic summit]

yep it does, there's a CP deficit inplace in game, for both pve and pvp

the higher it is, the worse your stats get and the higher enemy stats get

so you'll want to keep raising those stats to be able to keep on pushing, especially at certain chokepoints

the whole idea is that you keep a steady pace, increasing outpost level, using resources and repeat

[shrewd lily]

ohh

then i def need to get my main team all overload gear wtf

[tropic summit]

kinda

if anything your main DPS for sure

with focus on atk% and elem. dmg

[shrewd lily]

yeah my alice and red hood got enough i think ill post

[proud yarrow]

ATK Team for SP - CP 735175
P1: Jackal-Noah-Centi-Anis-Scarlet
P2: Ludmilla-Biscuit-S.Anis-Marciana-Privaty
P3: Blanc-Liter-Alice-SBS-Crown

DEF Team for SP - CP 668820
P1: Scarlet-Blanc-Liter-Noir-Jackal
P2: Noah-Noise-S.Anis-Drake-Centi
P3: Bay-SBS-Biscuit-RH-Anis

Any changes I need to make?

This is what I have to deal with in SP currently.

[keen vapor]

Ludmilla for attack :deadge:

[keen vapor]

How invested is she? Ludmilla

[proud yarrow]

Ludmilla is 34565. Only the Head and Arms are Terta type, Skills are 4/4/4

[keen vapor]

So not really invested

[proud yarrow]

No cube. I use Ludmilla for defense and hopefully for Burst charge? I thought she might help at the time?

[keen vapor]

Can you invest? Not on Ludmilla though, saying in general

[proud yarrow]

I just farmed today's IS and Sim Room. My Modernia is 7/6/6 but I can't upgrade her skills at the moment. Ludmilla I can to level 5.

And I got Crown's final Piglrim gear to Overload Tier.

Don't have a lot of resources at the moment. Level 260 Nikkes so I can't do the Level 400 stuff yet.

[keen vapor]

Wait, you did what interception?

[proud yarrow]

Normal Intercept. Black Smith.

[keen vapor]

You haven't beaten chapter 22 boss?

[proud yarrow]

I'm currently on Chapter 26. I mean I met up with Red Hood in the story.

[keen vapor]

You should be doing anomaly

You didn't checked the "reward" tab

[rustic sandal]

What are the current 3 meta teams in arena? I’m PvP illiterate.

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

I'm not bricked

[umbral crown]

said the bricked

[keen vapor]

:hu tao why:

[umbral crown]

i wonder

[proud yarrow]

But I'm not high enough to do those yet? The minimum level is 400, right? No way my level 260 Nikkes can do anything there.

[keen vapor]

Maximum*

You can still do Anomaly at stage 1 and get better things than special interception

[proud yarrow]

And if someone doesn't have either Emilia or Rapunzel?

Hmm... alright I'll try the Special one tomorrow then.

[keen vapor]

Anomaly

[proud yarrow]

Right... >_>;

[keen vapor]

Choose the boss by the type of gear you're lacking the most

[proud yarrow]

So, for example, for Modernia I need Fire-Type gear I got for the Boss of that type? Or Attack-type?

[keen vapor]

No no

It goes by helmet, alm, vest and boots

You can't get "elemental" gear to begin with

[proud yarrow]

Oh... Gear Pieces. Got it. My Modernia only has the Boots, so I need to get the Helm, Arms, and Chest pieces.

[keen vapor]

We get manufacturer (Elysion, Tetra, etc...) gear

[proud yarrow]

OK. Well I'll see what I can get.

Now for the Meta Arena Teams for SP... I don't have Emilia or Rapunzel. Who do I use them? This IS for DEF, right?

[keen vapor]

Yes, attack depends on the enemy

Let's see, without Emilia.... Is better to change the entire team rather that finding a (non-existent) substitute

[proud yarrow]

OK.

[keen vapor]

As for a lack of Rapunzel....

Using Laplace or SG clip unit might be okay

[proud yarrow]

SG? Shotgun?

[keen vapor]

Yes

But one that recharges by clip

[proud yarrow]

Recharge type?

[keen vapor]

Recharging by little amounts instead of full magazine

[proud yarrow]

OK. I guess I'll look into what SG Nikkes have recharges like that.

Anyway, as I have no Emilia what should Team 2 be?

[keen vapor]

SG clip units are the ones at top

[keen vapor]

Maybe a Moran team for team 2

[proud yarrow]

I do love Moran. She's an adorable airhead.

[keen vapor]

I can suggest this

Be sure to put those quantum cubes

[proud yarrow]

On Anis and Rumani?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[proud yarrow]

Right. My Cubes are level 4, so I had to remove Drake for Rumani. But it should be fine.

[keen vapor]

SG units with quantum tbh never thought about that

[quick lake]

U dont put quantum on ur SG?

[keen vapor]

I only have space for RL

Also I avoid using SG

[quick lake]

Thats fair

My defend team currently has meme 5SG team

[keen vapor]

Surely my Scar team won't die to it

[swift mango]

I would say

Bunny B.Soda+Pepper+Viper(treasure2)+Noir+Sugar

Is a strong 2.5RL team.

[proud yarrow]

Oh well. For Rookie Arena what should my DEF Team be?

I'm using:
Noah-Noise-Scarlet-Biscuit-Jackal and the team CP is 199780.

I need to update, right?

[keen vapor]

As a PVP Challenger in special arena I'm considering putting meme comps in rookie

[proud yarrow]

Meme Comps?

[limber patrol]

no, ez 3k gems

is the burst gen worth the combat power loss?

or is this better?

[swift mango]

When my bracket at your level, this comp won't even hit top 10 (unless CP flex) let alone top 3.

[limber patrol]

what's t3?

[keen vapor]

Putting units at level 1 for example, is not really worth it to win at rookie and it can be dangerous if people practice how to beat you

[proud yarrow]

OK... fair point.

[limber patrol]

well it works because at this point other people don't have better stuff...

I'm struggling with two whales though but they got worse team building

I can't beat Noah unless I have higher combat power...

[quick lake]

Thats my team, less the viper treasure

[swift mango]

Either you are a whale yourselves or there is no whale in your bracket

[limber patrol]

I'm not a whale

[swift mango]

Without Viper treasure it won't hit 2.5rl

[limber patrol]

So let's say I begin building Centi, who will she replace?

[quick lake]

Viper treasure has more burst gen??

[limber patrol]

(the last team it's just there, ez win because of combat power)

[swift mango]

Viper alone is enough

I mean if you don't have viper it won't hit 2.5rl

[quick lake]

yeee

[keen vapor]

It will help you to build an actual third team

[limber patrol]

right now no one is building pvp characters, other people are just on the top because they are whales

so this is the best I can have right now

Can I do something else besides building Centi?

[keen vapor]

I would swap Blanc and Grave

[limber patrol]

now my worthless team is the only one with combat power

....

[keen vapor]

Invest more

[limber patrol]

so the only thing left to do is to invest on characters I can only use on pvp...

When does people begin investing on pvp?

after clearing Campaign?

My current focus it's just normal campaign

[raven plover]

yea I start investing after Im done with normal campaign and "core dps" like redhood, sbs, alice, sanis

[keen vapor]

This last seasons I'm not using summer Anis tbh

[raven plover]

youre not using her on raid?

[keen vapor]

Oh raid, yeah there

I was saying PVP seasons

[quasi prism]

@terse abyss

Two new elysion units, must be christmas for elysion tower finally

[nocturne arrow]

need help again guys

[graceful grotto]

Your positioning is awkward, if you want to use Blanc, it's better to have SBS on pos 1 or pos 5 so she will take the most dmg and get Blanc's buff

I would put SBS Blanc noise Centi jackal for positioning wise

In your run Blanc's Indo procs on centi instead

[nocturne arrow]

i use that to defeat the no.2 guy and forget to change it to fight the no. 1 guy

[graceful grotto]

But noise being there is also awkward since she'll taunt and chances are she might get hit too low and steal Blanc Indo buff

[swift mango]

Basically, amongst your 3 team, only team 2 burst to win. The other 2 normal attack to win.

Anyway, good to be in your bracket. Pray that shuffle won't change anything.

[nocturne arrow]

so what the best formation?

[graceful grotto]

Can try

SBS Noise Blanc Centi Jackal

[glacial lion]

[graceful grotto]

Or swap out noise with Noir if ur SBS can survive till u burst

Then use SBS Blanc Noir Centi Jackal

[swift mango]

Ofc RH would slay vs zero protection team.

[limber patrol]

MAKIMA??!???!

[graceful grotto]

Why no use biscuit 😭

[glacial lion]

his team should die before rh can burst though...

[nocturne arrow]

my noir isnt that good

[swift mango]

Read Makima skill....

[glacial lion]

i win against that team multi time already, her indom usually cant block sbs slash

[swift mango]

I figure his team is 4 RL and your is 3rl, just one RL won't be enough time for SBS to kill them all.

[graceful grotto]

Wdym can't block? Doesn't she gain Indo for 7 sec when she took lethal dmg?

[glacial lion]

dont know why i lose that fight...

[vapid lake]

Indom doesn't reduce damage to 0 so sbs distributed dmg should still go through it's only INVULNERABLE from biscuit/noah that make sbs distribute 1 dmg

[graceful grotto]

Ah okk

[swift mango]

Indom doesn't negate SBS damage just make her HP not reduced to less than 1.

So SBS third slash that distribute damage to all enemies would still take effect. Given enough time.

[graceful grotto]

Maybe rocket whiff kewk

[swift mango]

You could just fight him again

To figure out

[glacial lion]

i did, and win...

[vapid lake]

rocket whiff and burst timing change

[swift mango]

Guess that only explanation

[umbral crown]

moran too op?

[oblique magnet]

i build pvp charcaters, lol. i probably shouldn't, but i do. i'm rank 3 in my bracket. i haven't spent a dime

[graceful grotto]

This rookie?

[glacial lion]

3v3

[limber patrol]

I only spent $4 and I'm #1....

[graceful grotto]

His team be kinda weird lol

[glacial lion]

this is 3rd team, ig residual (?)

[limber patrol]

But I don't build pvp characters

[oblique magnet]

the whales in my bracket own 1 and 2 (well, i'm currently rank 2, but i can't hold it, lol)

if i don't build pvp characters, there is no way i could hold top 10

[umbral crown]

imagine building pvp chars

[oblique magnet]

but maybe we have different definitions of "building", i just overload the gear and move on

[limber patrol]

I didn't build pvp characters so I pushed even further in campaign than the others... and spread my campaign team with some pvp characters...

[umbral crown]

are you gapping them with cp?

[graceful grotto]

I don't spend on the game except that 1$ - 10 tiks thingy

[limber patrol]

The problem is that idk when to begin building the pvp characters

[oblique magnet]

i'm at the end of the campaign, lol. i'm further than most, and further than the 1 and 2 whales

[swift mango]

There is also Crit to consider.

If Laplace crit like 2 after taunted by Rumani she could kill SBS and stop you from doing any dmg.

Ofc a dead SBS can't be healed back.

[graceful grotto]

But I do build pvp unit hahaha

[limber patrol]

really close combat power

[umbral crown]

then your rivals are clueless about how to beat you

[oblique magnet]

oh, you're probably not at end game then? that's a bit different

[umbral crown]

skill issues

[limber patrol]

they beat me. I just decided to change team now that I have guaranteed 3k gems by the time this ends

[umbral crown]

[graceful grotto]

Prolly u have all the strong pvp units

What sync are you?

[limber patrol]

I was asking trying to see alternatives without losing too much combat power but it seems I reached a wall where I have to build shit characters for burst gen without losing combat power

[oblique magnet]

yeah, at early stages of pvp, it's random luck with pvp units

[limber patrol]

#pvp-arena message
no

[oblique magnet]

near the end stages, most people have most units, so it's less of an access issue

i don't have scarlet though, so i still kinda get stomped

[limber patrol]

I have Scarlet but use Cinderella instead

[umbral crown]

share all your units in horizontal mode

your teams ar enot optimal at all

[limber patrol]

I closed game

[umbral crown]

when you open it again , send it here to suggest you better teams

[limber patrol]

here I did take a screenshot with characters on synchro

do I really have better options?

[umbral crown]

once i see all your nikkes but without selection anyone im sure you have

[limber patrol]

all of them that are not on teams are a 25k-40k combat power loss

each

[limber patrol]

I did share my 3 teams before

[umbral crown]

but to suggest you different teams i need to see your nikkes without selecting anyone so i see the investments you have done

[limber patrol]

.

[vapid lake]

rosy cooking?

[graceful grotto]

Of course

[limber patrol]

[graceful grotto]

U have Alice in pos 1, have doro, Naga, priv in pvp lol

Those should be out hahaha

[tender valve]

https://tenor.com/view/anya-forger-taking-notes-oomfie-spy-x-family-memo-gif-8287618218761733944

[swift mango]

Also check your Rapunzel healing bar in the winning fight.

Rapunzel could be crited and killed before you burst and you would also lose because you can't burst.

Rocket whiss is pretty hard to happen here because only Rapunzel and Laplace use rocket in the fight.

Okay also, Rumani. But still it's hard for your rocket to aim at Laplace and missed.

[glacial lion]

residual then... somehow they prio rapun first and kill her

[vapid lake]

maybe she just dying from poli's dmg share

[swift mango]

If Rapunzel got killed then Rumani could still burst right? Unless Poli got killed also.

[limber patrol]

[glacial lion]

poli 100% die, that why i put rapun here...

[swift mango]

Which could happen with some Crit.

My drake normal hit for 100k on arena but with Crit 500k+

5 times the damage. Enough for 1 unit killed to 2 units killed with enough Crit happened.

[glacial lion]

alright, tks

[swift mango]

Residual only happen with continuous fights. I don't see how you could go to one fight rookie and make it happens.

[glacial lion]

its 3v3, not rookie

[swift mango]

Anyway it could likely be crit. I just got 2 fights with the same teams some hours ago that have 2 different results because of Crit.

[mighty haven]

[graceful grotto]

Now level 5 her OL

[mighty haven]

let me get my Noah etc up first

[graceful grotto]

I need to start farming gears again for xmax unit

[quick lake]

I have no fodder

I have resorted to daily 50gems wipeout

[vapid lake]

Me already saving fodder since last week

There's still NY pilgrim after this

U gonna need lots of fodder

[fathom rock]

Winnable?

[quick lake]

First one CP deficit

[umbral crown]

once i see all the units

[fathom rock]

But biscuit

[umbral crown]

[quick lake]

Hmm. Maybe biscuit dies, then Noah no invuln

[umbral crown]

emi P5

[fathom rock]

We just gonna sac emilia like that?

[graceful grotto]

I prolly put biscuit at pos 4 and emi at pos 5 just so biscuit can survive lol

[umbral crown]

or if emi more invested than Cindy you could do

Noah-Emilia-Red Hood-Biscuit-Cindy

that cindy team looks like will burst tomorrow night

[quick lake]

[fathom rock]

my bracket legit don't know how to pvp they just cp

[umbral crown]

auto and hope for the best

[fathom rock]

What about this guy

[quick lake]

T1 no B2 plz dont burst with RH

[glacial lion]

crown against scar is suicide btw...

[quick lake]

Why BSoda burst. I think RH burst is fine as well

[fathom rock]

As if crown will touch scar

[fathom rock]

So put rh p1?

[graceful grotto]

What he meant is try to slot a B2 in T1

Don't rely on RH for B2 lol

[quick lake]

RH might die. Probably rearrange, with 3RL Rh burst

Maybe replace Cindy with Centi

[graceful grotto]

Seeing those comp is giving me

[quick lake]

[fathom rock]

[fathom rock]

Pepega problems require pepega solutions

[graceful grotto]

Dude's just trolling them at this point kewk

[quick lake]

I think can replace SAnis with defender, then put P1

[fathom rock]

It works cuz cp and no one knows how to pvp, he is ch5

[fathom rock]

My noah ol is pending

[quick lake]

Noah is fine. Just need defender for Biscuit’s invuln. No CP deficit should be perfect

[fathom rock]

Swapping sanis with noah is 20k cp loss

Should still work ig

[quick lake]

Winnable with deficit imo

Noah Biscuit RH Lap/SAnis Cindy

[fathom rock]

[quick lake]

Looks alright Emi might die from Naga

[fathom rock]

Oh you already sent format

And T2 is fine?

[quick lake]

Lemme check the burst gen real quick

Ye T2 seems alright

[fathom rock]

Enemy won't burst this week

T2 got the jackal link nuked

[graceful grotto]

T2 have jackal

Shouldn't be an issue in burst

[fathom rock]

My jackal link died before burst

[quick lake]

[graceful grotto]

His Sanis nuke your jackal?

Ur jackal has SR doll equipped rightm

[fathom rock]

well don't matter much that's my daily dose of pvp anyway

[quick lake]

Probably SAnis and Scarlet hitting all linked units

Too much dmg

[quick lake]

Does doll affect linked units? i rmb someone did the math..

[fathom rock]

Sr15/sr15/sr5

[quick lake]

Maybe I should doll Jackal next..

[keen vapor]

[vapid lake]

Spend so much time thinking how to beat ppl above u then they just cp gap u in an instant

[fathom rock]

They cp gap me bc half my units got no ol

[quick lake]

Its about winning with deficit

[vapid lake]

Time to change that

[quick lake]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-point-finger-at-forehead-forehead-tap-head-tap-tap-forehead-gif-18599618

[fathom rock]

Already working on it

[fathom rock]

And how do you do that without biscuit

[quick lake]

More pvp cooking

[fathom rock]

Moran

[keen vapor]

No biscuit gaming

[fathom rock]

Biscuit is one of 3 teams
You need to kill 2 to win

[keen vapor]

At least you have Noah

[umbral crown]

excellent

[umbral crown]

you have noah and biscuit? Scarlet drunk?

[fathom rock]

Scarletless

[umbral crown]

need more cp

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Retro needs Pilgrim selector

[grizzled bone]

🎈

[keen vapor]

Ahuhe

Hi caishen, how was your vacations

I cooked today

[kind glen]

sp arena team suggestion plz

[opaque pulsar]

How burnt are ya

[keen vapor]

Burnt enough to do Alteisen fight by juggling Rapunzel (60s) and RH bursts

[lunar dirge]

at least you don't have 5 different ppl who can beat yo ass

[quick lake]

Man, sweaty bracket

[lunar dirge]

my bracket is really funny,trust

[graceful grotto]

Wtheck is that C1 lmao

[lunar dirge]

leviathan

[quick lake]

6B cp? wts syn 641

That really a leviathan

That guy whaled hard on cd, given he didnt start day 1 as well

[graceful grotto]

Even his c2 is prolly a whale too

[quick lake]

Out-whaled 🐋

[lunar dirge]

started around the same time as me,aka last xmas

[graceful grotto]

What is the C1 team? Out of curiousity

[keen vapor]

Synchro 260 with Emi

[graceful grotto]

If he started around rezero I think 260 is decent?

[keen vapor]

Actually true

[graceful grotto]

Maybe 10 sync slightly lower or so

[keen vapor]

You cooking?

[graceful grotto]

Blanc-SBS-Red Hood-Noir-Jackal

Moran-Rapunzel-Biscuit-ASS-Emilia

Noah-Noise-Centi-Pepper-Cinderella

@keen vapor help proof read

Cooking outside, might have miss a unit or two

[keen vapor]

Blanc will survive?

[graceful grotto]

I was thinking to slot Rapunzel to revive Blanc, but that meant no red hood b1

[kind glen]

whos ass

[keen vapor]

[kind glen]

[keen vapor]

See? People doesn't gets it

[graceful grotto]

Hahahahah

Anis sparking summer

[keen vapor]

Does your Blanc have SR doll? Have you unlocked tempering cube?

[kind glen]

SR doll yes, tempering cube no

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Mock the first team to see if Blanc survives

Otherwise use
Blanc/Emilia/RH/Biscuit/Centi

Noise/SBS/Rapunzel/jackal/Noah

Moran/Naga/Alice/Noir/Rumani

But needs investment :deadge:

[kind glen]

ok

[graceful grotto]

If using Alice B3, does Alice target leftmost unit like Rh during burst?

[kind glen]

wait, what does tempering cube do?

[keen vapor]

Is sniper so yes.... In attack, but this is defense so neither of them will

[keen vapor]

Reduces damage received

[kind glen]

ah i have it

[keen vapor]

Don't mistake it with Endurance cube

[kind glen]

i was using vigor on blanc, so should i change it?

[kind glen]

ik

[keen vapor]

Change and mock Cereal's suggestion

[graceful grotto]

Vigor is great for PvE for Blanc, but for pvp Blanc is not there to heal, mainly is for Indo+debuffs so you want her to survive before she bursts

[kind glen]

ok

[keen vapor]

Your box is very good only lacking a certain B3 nuker

[graceful grotto]

Actually my very first pilgrim

[keen vapor]

Actually my last Pilgrim before the last banners

[graceful grotto]

He also invested quite Abit in jackal and biscuit

[brittle hill]

It's the same with noise too. I might have to start upgrading tempering to 7

[keen vapor]

I had to do that change today

Rip biscuit tank

[brittle hill]

My pve brain almost invested in bastion. I was going to be so pissed. all my UR coins are all there thankfully

[graceful grotto]

Do you upgrade 7 for tempering first or 10 for bastion?

[quick lake]

Unions chip really limited

[keen vapor]

Tempering

[quick lake]

My bastion only at 8 good enough

[brittle hill]

It's at 9, idk who needs the other slot. PVP is forever

[keen vapor]

Right, quantum needs another slot

But I also have to invest Adjutant

[opaque pulsar]

Thats a great burst

[quick lake]

Adjutant?

Definitely need those quantum slots

so many cubes, so little chips

[opaque pulsar]

Same old pvp team

[keen vapor]

Good for RH also kinda quantum 2.0 or so I've heard

[opaque pulsar]

Noah . Is invisibility

Helm is healer

Noise is healer tank

[quick lake]

Adjutant is charge speed right? hmm

[graceful grotto]

Do y'all invest on onslaught?

Now I'm at 7 for both bastion and resilence

[quick lake]

2.12% cs at lv7

[keen vapor]

Never

[graceful grotto]

Which one should I go for I wonder

[graceful grotto]

Guess I should take it out from SBS then lol

[keen vapor]

Bastion

[quick lake]

Priority probably Quantum then Tempering hmm

[graceful grotto]

Wanted to leave bastion for other unit since everyone want bastion nowadays lmao

Guess not

[quick lake]

Emilia, Jackal, Centi, Rumani, Anis Quantum definitely. Optionally SGs too

[graceful grotto]

I gave Noah quantum lol

[quick lake]

oh yea Noah too

[upper grove]

someone who always hits me in rookie and SP arena suddenly sends me a friend request they win rookie but always lose SP

[grizzled bone]

they're trying to figure out when you're online

[upper grove]

I see, thanks

[graceful grotto]

Try to turn them off by hitting them at different time kewk

[covert lintel]

no wonder i get removed today after he sent me friend request a few days ago

[grizzled bone]

[kindred tinsel]

my teams been keeping up in diamond so far hopefully my reign will last

[unique wagon]

@spiral onyx doll question

U sr0 or u sr5

[spiral onyx]

I SR5'd everyone

But

[unique wagon]

[spiral onyx]

All my solo raid units are gimped lol

I don't have any SR15 on my solo raid units

But that's the trade-off I have to make for the sake of PvP

[unique wagon]

[spiral onyx]

I'm not sure if I would recommend others doing the same

My plan later is to SR15 all the tanks since every bit of damage reduction makes a diff for them

But if they level sync it to 400, might be better to SR15 the DPS for the stats boost

Will have to play it by ear

[unique wagon]

Hmm

I would have SR5ed them if I didnt mes up in teh fridt place, my units

But rn dont have too many mats left after wasting so many for little gains in solo raid

[unique wagon]

But u started with R0 or SR0?

[rich quail]

That’s a good idea

I still need to get SR15 dolls to units like Emilia, Scarlet and Cindy

But right now I have been focusing on SR15 dolls for support/defender units like Biscuit, Blanc, Noah and the clip RL units… mainly because I’m usually fighting on sync deficit of 30+ levels and team cp deficit levels

[swift mango]

Dayum, you have a very rare existence in the midst... Maybe could ask him to use all blue team just for the meme.

[kindred tinsel]

someone cook a good counter for this team

[spiral onyx]

R0

[tropic summit]

3RL noah emilia RH or 2RL scarlet/cindy

[kindred tinsel]

try this or use ass?

[tropic summit]

cindy in p1 is really bad (it gives opponent extra burst gen, as if hitting 3 nikke isn't of 2)

also that's not 2RL, it's still 3RL

[kindred tinsel]

ah i see im still trying to understand what makes it 2 rl burst if most of my team is rocket users

[tropic summit]

a combination of clip RL mostly

an example of 2RL cindy nuke

if you going with cindy, i take it you don't have emilia right? it should work as long as you stick to 2RL

especially as you'll likely kill rapu and prevent them from even starting burst chain

[kindred tinsel]

i have her on another team

im trying to pad cp as much as possible

could i replace laplace with centi and keep scarlet?

[quick lake]

No xanne rerun yet

[tropic summit]

scarlet as in SBS or drunk scarlet?

[kindred tinsel]

sbs

im guessing sbs would add the to the rl meter more

[tropic summit]

no, SBS isn't a clip RL and in fact a bit slower than non clip RL due to reduced splash range

you'd lose 2RL and ending up with 3RL

[kindred tinsel]

dang

im trying to see what units i have to counter

cp is my only issue

otherwise ill just use emilla

[tropic summit]

emilia + noah should generally give you a granted win on one of the 3 teams

it's stupid and easy

the rest then pick the 2nd weaker team and plan accordingly

[kindred tinsel]

would this work

[tropic summit]

against team above? 3RL unbuffed emilia, you might wipe rapu biscuit and anis, then you've to survive 5s of autos from noah and cind

there are a few more variables, but it might do

[kindred tinsel]

ill risk it

thoughts on this team removed emilla earlier from this one and added burst gen units

[tropic summit]

that's probably not gonna work

liter + noir will feed scarlet + jackal, and scarlet will get indom from blanc, your RH will fire for 0 actual damage

let alone you're probably dead before you hit burst on RH

[umbral crown]

Si

[kindred tinsel]

what should i do here

[tropic summit]

generally you want a noah or a bay to counter scarlet, and definitly avoid using any gun type different from SR and RL

as SGs, MGs, ARs etc all feed scarlet and jackal, plus higher chances of getting counter dmg

what's their other team? CP padded?

[tropic summit]

uh this one is easier

[kindred tinsel]

take my plate

[tropic summit]

assuming worst case scenario, they running 3.5RL or slower 3RL

you just need a 3RL nuke of your own

and a p1 that can survive, you can use biscuit if you need to ensure that

what nikke do you've left to achieve the above^ ?

[kindred tinsel]

tried cooking

[tropic summit]

to use biscuit properly, you'll want centi to be p1 and biscuit p3 or p4 (biscuit gives the buff, but if she's dead she's useless)

you can rotate the team in

centi SBS RH biscuit noir

let's see your burst gen tho

seems good

as an extra assurance, make sure to hit shooting range once, just enter, start battle, leave it

it will enforce RH to shoot on p1 and hopefully prevent funny aim things

you want RH to shoot your p1 which will be invulnerable with biscuit

if you wanna go the extra mile, since SBS will be exposed to 4 splash damages which will also be buffed, you want someone else in p2

centi - flex - sbs - biscuit - rh

the odds that she get killed by splash from 4 RL is high

you COULD sacrifice biscuit to that job in p2, as you'd be fine even with just 5s and not 10s on centi of invulnerb.

[kindred tinsel]

sure ill try that

im attacking now

here we go

ahhh no way

[tropic summit]

what happened? 🤔

[kindred tinsel]

misclick screen no sc

but i lost

[tropic summit]

[kindred tinsel]

[tropic summit]

so t1 was the one with emilia, t3 was the one against RH correct?

would've been curious to see what happened in t3

[kindred tinsel]

yeah i thought i sc that one but it overwrote itself

[tropic summit]

i generally record my own fights so i can see the details with calm post match

[keen vapor]

Is that Modernia first affection?

[kindred tinsel]

yes

[keen vapor]

Wait, you're bricked in PVP

[tropic summit]

he's bricked but doesn't give up

[kindred tinsel]

nuh uh

[keen vapor]

[kindred tinsel]

once i get quiry ill be even more powerful

[kindred tinsel]

but mostly biscut was absorbing most of the dmg on t3

[keen vapor]

We aren't sure

[kindred tinsel]

maybe

[keen vapor]

COME HERE DON'T DELETE YOUR QUESTIONS

[bright mantle]

sent it wrong in pvp discussion mb

[tropic summit]

the match should've gone with centi going invulnerable, p2 (biscuit) dying to splash, p3 being SBS killing things, noir and RH likely near full health, that's why it would be curious to see what happened tho

@kindred tinsel but you can fight another day

[keen vapor]

Anne is only used in PVP is fine

[kindred tinsel]

yesh dw that team won the one with emila didnt ion anyone on that team died really

[tropic summit]

oh so it was emilia the one who lost

[kindred tinsel]

yeah

[tropic summit]

unbuffed emilia didn't do enough dmg perhaps 🤔

[keen vapor]

Back in my days I used Crown anis with biscuit to charge nukes

[kindred tinsel]

all i saw was immune on my screen

[tropic summit]

what back in your days, for emilia-less ppl like me it's still anis helping charge stuff

[kindred tinsel]

how do i record games next time

it was easier on ldplayer

[tropic summit]

use OBS or similar software if you're on PC

[kindred tinsel]

oh right

[tropic summit]

you can make it target your game window or full screen

[swift mango]

You could 10/10/10 SR15 17% CS Anis and pretend you have an Emilia.

[keen vapor]

[quick lake]

I've read through all 180 pages of Keripo's messages on pvp

[brazen ledge]

How is Emilia useful for PvP ?

[quick lake]

Emilia is a great battery unit, providing alot of burst gen

Her nuke burst can also be useful

[keen vapor]

She can also fire after Noah stops using her shield

[brazen ledge]

Ok yes

[keen vapor]

Nick Fury, we meet again

[brazen ledge]

What

[keen vapor]

gomenasorry

[brazen ledge]

I remember talking to you here, I didn’t think that was the case for you

[keen vapor]

[brazen ledge]

I don’t remember if you helped me for my main

[keen vapor]

[brazen ledge]

With these teams

[rich quail]

[keen vapor]

I don't think I build those, but they're good anyways

[brazen ledge]

I have every nikke so like… what are the best teams ? Rosanna is getting built

[keen vapor]

Nitro :why snapped:

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

How do you have it then :pepeh: (just imagine it)

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/danganronpa-anime-money-gif-5706958

[keen vapor]

Togamiiiiii

Rosanna useful for champion arena

[brazen ledge]

Whats Emilia 21 ?

[keen vapor]

An Emilia fan of Eyeshield 21

[brazen ledge]

Ok I thought it was something special abt her overload lines for example

[keen vapor]

Jk jk

Emilia with 21% total charge speed (overloads + skill 1)

Is like Alice, about two decent charge speed lines

[brazen ledge]

Ok

Ty

Cindy just burst as high as possible ?

[keen vapor]

As fast as possible yes

[umbral crown]

A legal emilia

21% charge speed

[umbral crown]

And cube

[brazen ledge]

i have quantum on her do i change ?

lvl 7 on 1st skill

i have 8.38cs on equipments

[umbral crown]

Quatum works to make her fast as well

[brazen ledge]

like i really don't know anything abt pvp$

[umbral crown]

Take your time

Slowly

[brazen ledge]

I want good teams good investment for good gems lol

[quick lake]

Lost my pvp atk

[umbral crown]

Takes time to have good investment in goos teams but will also depends if you gonna focus on pvp or pve

[brazen ledge]

My units for pve are well built

PvP wasn’t a priority

[eternal finch]

Current Nikke roster, looking for mixing better my defense. Sadly, my comps are no longer effective:

DEF 1
Jackal/Scarlet/Drake/Poli/Tia
Blanc/Emilia/Sugar/RH/Pepper
Noah/Rapunzel/S.Anis/Biscuit/Centi

DEF 2
Scarlet/Rapunzel/Jackal/Poli/Sugar
Blanc/Scalter/RH/Centi/Pepper
Noise/Biscuit/S.Anis/Emilia/Anis

DEF 3 (current)
Noah/Noise/S.Anis/Biscuit/SBS
SakuraB/Blanc/Emilia/RH/Jackal
Crown/Scarlet/Rapunzel/Centi/Drake

Don't know if I should swap Anis comps with Romani for CP difference or if it doesn't matter.

[tropic summit]

assemble any of these:

scarlet blanc rh centi jackal
rumani anis cinderella emilia21 noir
noah noise s.anis biscuit rapunzel

Scarlet/Blanc/Laplace+/Red Hood/Jackal
Noah/Noise/S.Anis/Biscuit/Rapunzel
Crown/SBS/Liter/Centi/Maid Privaty

noah/noise/s.anis/biscuit/rapunzel
scarlet/blanc/rh/noir/jackal
centi/rumani/anis/cinderella/emilia(or drake, pepper etc)

i didn't check your box so if you can't get 1 of these might wanna fill respectively with whatever you got left and possibly stays 3RL

share in case you're unsure for the case above

[umbral crown]

Rail cooking

[cobalt token]

Let me tell you, the guy didn't like that at all, he's so furious he is attacking me twice as hard as before

I just see that today, he even used some gems to attack me more than he used to

[tropic summit]

rejoice in the salt that you've created

[cobalt token]

Man, i'm at 960pts because of him(He's 1390), but i'm feeling so great at the salt i'm witnessing

[solid flare]

how do my builds change if i dont have access to Rumani
Do i just have to fill with a clip shotgun like noir/drake etc?

Crown/SBS/Liter/Centi/Maid Privaty
would emilia not fit in here as a battery?

[umbral crown]

Oh boi

[patent niche]

Does anyone know what the reasons would be for a player to be removed from server? This is just rookie arena. There was a player that would attack me every day while I was rank 2. Out of nowhere the player is no longer on the same server.

[upper grove]

Re shuffle

[patent niche]

But isn’t that supposed to happen about every 90 days or so?

The player showed up about 1 month ago and now nowhere on my ranking list.

[upper grove]

Reshuffle for rookie just happened last week afaik

[patent niche]

You’re probably right… sad to see I am no longer someone’s punching bag. It was kind of weird because the player went from having a MLB Cinderella to core 7 in one day. Every now and then I was able to beat his defense. If anything I supposed I have some satisfaction in knowing I may have made him splurge on spending.

[solid flare]

would this work?

[tropic summit]

yes emilia is a battery aswell, clip RL tier

those are templates teams with high win rate, but they don't mean you'll win 100% on defense

[solid flare]

i was running this previously

[tropic summit]

those are already strong teams

[solid flare]

im getting broken by a player who is 20 levels below me.

its getting annoying.

[tropic summit]

you could rotate t3

noah noise rapu s.anis emy

to decrease possibility that rapu gets killed early

as for t1 and t2 you could tweak the teams around, maybe set this one up instead:

scarlet blanc rh centi jackal
rumani anis cinderella emilia21 noir

[solid flare]

dont have the new runanni

[tropic summit]

oh oke, you can use a clip SG instead

[solid flare]

i do have 21% emilia

[tropic summit]

anis clip SG cindy emi noir

although anis is squishy af due to being SR, you might consider a different team at that point

[solid flare]

issnt cindy's pvp team reliant on the double centi tier batteries to make up for her shit charge speed?

[umbral crown]

Next season will be shuffle for sp

[tropic summit]

3RL cindy has many variations actually

[tropic summit]

i think you can safely assume one of the teams being targeted is this one

losing probably against a 3RL nuke

as for t2 it might be getting skipped, as it's a bit more annoying to deal with

i'd probably pick your t3 and t1

t3 could be beat by a same speed noah emilia rh

imo you should probably work on your t1 and t3, perhaps consider a different t1, as for t3 it's not bad per se, but the guy has learned your pattern most likely

[solid flare]

i missed this somehow. may bad.

[tropic summit]

absolutely nothing to apologize about

if anything, you could def. try to improve t1, t2 is solid, t3 is just probably getting countered

when you're unsure why your def isn't working, just put yourself in the role of the attacker and see what's weaker (or appears to be easier to counter)

[solid flare]

if i keep scarlet as is, and lock noah with s anis team, i dont like how i cant really control which character blanc gives the indimidable to

[tropic summit]

generally that issue is solved with blanc in p1, indom target in p2, biscuit to keep blanc alive

unless you're confident in p1 and p2, and that blanc lives, then indom target in p1 and blanc in p2

[solid flare]

thats what i was going for in my prvious lineup, but i forgot that its 4 RL speed.

[tropic summit]

max high HP% of indom target should be lower than all other nikke to avoid accidental indom

[tropic summit]

yeah 4RL could get RIPPERONI by 3RL nukers

[solid flare]

but i like crown even less as Sp arena defence

as shes a free scarlet giveaway.

[tropic summit]

she also needs a ton of help with burst gen to make up with

you want a B2 buffer, rather go with blanc and biscuit

alternative xanne or poli

[solid flare]

yeah im with you here

[tropic summit]

but yeah, SGs are to avoid against scarlet

[solid flare]

i just cant solve my blanc sbs team's busrt speed probelm without putting in emilia 21% whos going to eat the indom.

i guess i just put noah into sbs team instead, and have Summer annis take blanc and biscuit

[tropic summit]

blanc with emilia can work tho

as for SBS with noah as a sustain team oriented can work