#pvp-arena
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He is hella toxic, one time he joined my guild just to trash talk, had to turn the guild private lol
If you could Msg him to tell him to use that to reroll dispatch and 50 gem outpost claim instead.
Puts a smile on my face when he doesnt get what he wants
eh those ppl probably have no concern with spending, so it's a lost cause
He probably does, major spender but not smart with it. Used to be 10 levels ahead of me. Now i am 18 levels ahead of him lol
C1 

I spent 150 gem to reroll dispatch today and still left with this stinky 2 blue mats. At least give me 3...
Got 7 core boxes though so not that bad.
Losing all my rocks and couldn't get the 4th CS line on Laplace on the other hand stink. Kinda out of luck with this game recently.
At least you have treasure lap 
Im telling you, he wont stop lol
I'm thinking on getting Lap out of wishlist
Putting Jackal in wishlist since first month and still no her. Got all other Missiles from off rate though. Wishlist is a lie.
That's not how you send a message 
Me when Naga/Blanc/Noah 
Naga is guaranteed now. My only hope is new year selector.
Even Liter 
Those nikke I don't even OL... Still use them in SR and AI though.
i remember being nagaless for 3 months - then taking another 2 months to actually build her 
Reminds me of when I had redhood for a few months before actually building her
I was Nagaless for 6 months. Then when I got her, it was too late.
Didnt know she was good, started during emilia banner and she carried me during those times
too late because crown? still nice to have for solo raid if you care for that
She doesn't need OL for that.
or you mean progress wise since she's in camapgin tooo
Well, since I was already built lesser nikke that fix Arena as well.
Now I will just roll with maxing out Noise because no point start OL Naga from scratch and waste all those upgrade mats.
Beat h16 and h17 boss using Moran taunt. H18 just hitting too hard I will need to close the deficit first by maxing out Noise.
Took him 1.1k gems but he broke through. Appreciate the help
Do you have any other suggestions for team comps or just keep as is?

Eh I think you are assisting a suicide victim here.
clearly the team is fine - at this point i'd prolly just cp pad until they can't touch you anymore
Slowly but surely working on that
All my units have sr doll with at least a phase 5 doll. I think just some stat rerolling and level gapping him is the only thing left
i would just f with his effort by swapping team at every of his tries tho
Man I wish I could get SR doll for SG and RL often... Only getting them from random 2 or 3 times thus far. The rest were from selectors.
I was doing that lol
This game is kinda actively telling me not to arena. And pvE instead these days.
SP arena keeps throwing me teams 10-100k cp higher than my current highest auto team so I just have myself stuck at Diamond 5
Ah yes... the player with a mlb red hood and crowne is perfectly balanced against my team of Jackal and SBS
At least you dont have a megawhale that core maxes everything
Well, it suck being a casual in Arena. Other would just surpass you playing regularly
Saw one in my first sp bracket early on. Dude was 70 levels ahead of everyone
I'm in one where one dude has core 7 Asuka
I never gotten out of my first SP bracket. 2 big whale early on quitted though. So only the small whale with 40 level gap left.
It's box hoarding time
Until jan's new chapters
Gonna take this risk
Might get passed by others in my bracket
He thought he broke through but he still has to work for it again. Keep rotating the teams lmao. Still have my 1 other free attack
maybe depends for when you start but personally spending all boxes till sync 401 then i'll save
Make him spend more gems 
Thats the plan
Feel bad for the dude
Used more gems trying to win than the actual amount of gems you receive after sp arena ends
I dont, bro went to my guild and said to go hang myself. He deserves this
tbf when you have 500k+ gems might as well use it to play arena ig
Liru 
Why though? What is the story behind this drama?
Just a cocky mf that got angry he isnt at the top, used to beat me in both rookie and sp, but once he realized he cant beat me in rookie anymore it blew a fuse on him

Whiny person that finally doesnt get what he wants
I guess we all should learn a lesson on this 
He can just open his wallet but I guess he didn't and just waste his gem.
Might quit game soon at this point
He does, i just have a wallet too 💀
Eh when did you started playing?
Near the end of re zero collab
Okay so you are a small whale too haha
Dude has somehow always been in both my brackets
A bit bigger than my small whale even.
I guess he could take money from loan shake if he wanted to win now. Probably not a rich guy but spending all his salary.
So he got mad
How much extra charge speed in total with overload does Emilia need to reach peak burst charge in arena?
this is what i face all maxed core nikke lol
Older player got it rough when the bracket sunk haha
When you're a dolphin and you keep getting matched with Killer Whales or Whales
I also screwed myself slightly by getting too excited over RH I gave her a purple doll immediately
21%
Thanks!
does emilias skill cover that? or do you need lines on gear with chargespeed
21% Emilia need 8% charge speed from lines and cube. And max s1
ok
pretty sure it was discussed here at one point to hit 1rl with emilia you'd need 4 black lines basically
no point in going past that?
oh nvm
If you are a whale like Kepiro and want to try hard. You could do 2 black line and 2 blue line. Plus lv7 CS cube for the best Emilia build that could hit 3 attack in 2 RL
@brittle hill
Buy rock from money store. Save up to around 300 then use them to reroll
I thought i saw somewhere that if you hit 33.4% total with max s1 and charge lines/cube she hits 4 attacks in 3 RL
That's worse version.
You want 24.7% CS naturally for 2RL 3 hit. Which make her best burst gen in the game
24.7% just with overload lines?
Sry nvm 6.09% per line is the most i think you cannot get overload
And cs cube lv7
2.12%
2 black 2 Blue and lv7 Adjustant cube
Minimum
I'm cooking 🔥 
Goddam 2 black 2 blue cs lines too hard
Enough for 4 hit in 3rl
I wasted 7 rock for no CS line was enough sad. Imagine using 300 but getting shit luck and couldn't get them.
Would just quit game at that point
Yeah i think ill give up hopes of getting that for now
that is megawhale territory
I think 2 people on my friends list probably have those emilia lines though
Or you just save rock for half a year
Then quit game out of rage
How can you quit when crown skin is out
cinderella skin cute asf too
You know the devs really like her when they put boob veins
21% she still shot at 3.3RL. Enough for Noah to catch a 3rl B3. Should be fine.
welp this is the anwser
thanks
4.1k gems used on me in arena today. While I only used my free 2 attacks.
I saw a GuitarRockHero YouTube video just today where someone had 390 rocks
He didn’t know how to use them
He had some units with T7 gears
Probly just flex
I could make alt, save a half a year and say the same.
He had to explain to the guy and tell him to get t9m gears to make overload gears
I was like…. I could do so much with 390 rocks

Guys should it be noise-noah or noah-noise without biscuit on the team?
What’s your charge speed for both?
I don’t know the exact answer, but I heard that charge speed is pertinent
How to check? both have no cs for ol gears
Are they using Adjutant Cube?
nope
Ok, then both equal
I have to go but this info will help whomever has the answer
What if one has adjutant? how will that change
It will change taunt priority
All I know is my Noah has taunt priority because Noise has 3%, Noah 0%
Noise reloads sooner, so Noah taunt will draw enemies
I put Noah at p1, Noise can go p3-p5
not p2
That’s what I got
gtg
OKay thank you
Damn i need to figure out my rival's new login time
He no longer attack at the same time everyday
How would you beat this team w/out scarlet ? Would a sanis team be good here?
Sanis team w/ noah or indom SBS can win against this me thinks
That makes sense. Can SBS survive tanking in p1 tho or do we stick her in p2 and hope she gets enough splash damage.
With jackal link should be able to survive
Don't have her. 
SBS/Sanis?
He have 3 second of invul only
SBS/Sanis got 7 second of indom to dps them down
Yeah, I have them. Who do I replace them for?
Well, I also use
Noah/Noise/SBS/Biscuit/Rapunzel
I'm sure echo know better
He typing up a wall of text
Need help for SP Arena setup. Thank you!
Emilia uninvested 
Through investment?
Because she's 4/4/4 no OL gear
Slowly invest her.
I would overload Helmet and Vest at the very least
Also equip her a blue doll and max it with blue kits
C'mon, it only takes 150 average 
K echo u got this
I'm off
Well, you're also higher synch than him so maybe only OL gear needed 

Gotta work
u have noah?
Yes, but the gremlin is uninvested...
I already cooked 
time to invest or she'll laugh at you

i finally start OL noise lol
man why didn't i invest in her earlier
She doesn't needs higher than 4s, don't worry
Overload gear?
I got that. No OL.
But between her and Biscuit?
Now I'm getting worried your team will have enough CP or not
I just overloaded everyone in that team
T9 gear is lvl 0...
rock wasn't the issue when it comes to pvp OL hahaha
it's the weapon exp 
I know 
No more fodder 
It's fine
no CP penalty
I can fully overload Emilia if I have to

man this felt so one sided lmao
It's not when Noise dies
I just failed it today

It was close. Noise was close to dying.
I had to use selector today 
Gonna do that.
Also, does the same team work as DEFENSE?
Mica Doll 

combine the 3 you will not use and convert it into selector
You never know with new treasures 
never know with new unit
and i don't have modernia yet 
does not matter, you can bricking yourself more than you are already waiting for something that might never come

@keen vapor@graceful grottoThanks for the tips. 
you can live without her, i have her since i started and i do not use her
Stop saying that 
I'm not bricking
now stuck at 249 tower, have the freaking thing where u need MG to break the shield (hitting 1), and there's THREE OF EM
lol
Would love some help putting together some sp arena teams, thanks
use rosanna and Crown
Noah Noise Cindy Bisuit Centi
Why do we put Noise p2? Is it mostly to prevent her from dying? Wouldnt noise taunt be bad at p2?

🧱
Echo
Nikke 2 ain’t coming for another 18 years
IF it comes out
echo?
Yes
Echo saves core dust for Nikke 2
It is a known fact and it is in this channel’s lore
You can check the pins for more information
it took gfl to make a 2nd game in how many years? 8-9?
echo saving for the next decade
If I have to wait 20 years for a conclusion on story I will be surprised and disappointed at the same time lol
It would be like One Piece or Dragon Ball
we're in elbaf now, almost endgame
not me but @dense violet 's nikke
Fodder the R dolls 
as a scarletless I'm so tired of those team with scarlet + noah, is there any team to counter them?
people spam this team a lot and I lose all the time even I'm 100k cp ahead
Depends what their team is
If just Noah with no biscuit, just Noah biscuit Bscar it
If Biscuit, indom emi nuke
enemy team is: scarlet - noah - noise - biscuit - jackal
Just Blanc emi rh biscuit jackal it
When my rival not using his second attack i kinda know what will happen in 5 min before reset 

sick rat strats
bruh my opponent is really dedicated.
he use like 800 gems just to make sure he defeat me
He got like another year or 10 before that opens, no need to gem
Rookie arena 
You can only gem to beat up people in rookie. In SP one win and it's over
Dude really be testing CA team comps 
Guys give me the best setup for SP arena. I don't want to build Nikke wrongly.
There's no best since anything can be beaten
Unless you joined after Emilia, then there's one invincible comp
Could someone tell me how does Noise interact with healing cube?
Will it increase her "healing" by Max HP buff or only the healing tick per second during her burst?
Too lazy to test and math.
Thank you in advance.
I forgot
There's a new guy in the town that has beaten me and shuffle hasn't even happened yet
Is dorover
my account is bricked @umbral crown
So apparently it doesn't work. Not even the HP cube work with her max HP increase "heal" among. It only interact with her Normal HP bar before cube.
You could do the math yourself. The later 2 showed that the HP heal doesn't overtake the Max HP increase either. Still 20.79% if you just math. And -10 dmg retained.
Time to max her darn doll next solo raid
at least 1.2m
Seem like 350 is the common level for your time if being fully active and not paying cash for core dust. Not everyone could do that though so 330 being the real cut.
Like 300 for my bracket but the real cut is 280.
So you aren't that brick for C10 above if you just open your boxes.
Time to use those core dust boxes 
our bracket is pretty close but idk if my bracket is just padding with pve. this was April I think
Just the healing per ticks. Max hp heal isn't really healing.. but more like replenishing current hp with the same amount as the max hp increased. It functions like Armlet of Mordiggian like in Dota
Late reply but thanks haha..
Thats why you won't see healing numbers when you "heal" using Noise full charge
I shouldn't have waste time testing lol....
Just use Noah+RH
Easy win.
Especially keeping RH p3. Biscuit p4.
Just add filler B2 to p2
Be sure to keep it 3RL
And below 15.4% deficit
Even above 15.4% deficit could still win just don't over do the cp difference.
looks good
shuffle gonna bring some surprises I'm sure
thats the hope
surprise that you stay with the same people

a rival who gems

i kinda wanna have another rival to make SP fun again
even tho my current rival did some interesting cook last night, dropped his total cp to 150k less but now he is back to 1.3
Last night 
I'm starting to OL pvp again before shuffle since I've been slacking for solo raid
Seeing number go up is neat tho
thats the way
Then you can get stonks like this

wish i could get thiose kinda of numbers so soon
idk how that's even possible so quickly unless they just padded with a PvE unit and still had units to OL
Please help me build a new SP Arena Defend team please. Thank you.
Keep out
It's normal for his level (320 ish) to be 1.3m if he used his PvE to pad it. I could be 1.3m too at 301 if I just pad my shit with PvE units.
324
T1: Centi Biscuit Scarlet RH Noir
T2: Jackal Cindy Emilia Blanc SBS
T3: Noise Noah SAnis T.Laplace Drake
All 3RL comps
Having emilia seems nice
easier to craft teams
Alright, thanks. In case they copied this team. How to counter it?
You have to craft yet another set of teams
can ask for help then
just wait till time comes
T1: probably counter with 2RL burst faster
T2: Counter with Noah invuln here
T3: idkkk maybe RH burst kills noise fast enough?
you forgot to add blanc
S.anis and Noir is a bricked comp 
Hi 👋
I need your help to beat the top 1 of my server ☺️
His third team is too high in cp
(I don't have rumani and xAnne)
I assume typically you only want only 1 SG per team? so as to not feed jackal?
yeah but even its better to avoid using them but that will depend the box, also noir gives max ammo which brick S.Anis burst and you will not have a good perfomance
oh yes omg

Keep forgetting the ammo 
Finally baited him to gem it. Gonna be funny for him waking up next day to be p6 again.
ah yes, a classic
You're just like me fr 
Like you ? Same server ?😅
what's their 3rd team? padded?
been a while since i got one
and that's probably better staying that way 
gemmers are a sad pain in the arse
last one was weij when i broke the wall,i was gemming hard to stay C1 for like 2 seasons but slowly they started to give up till nobody was attacking me for months
but not old rival quit and new one appeared but he does not gem
cuz he's a normal person

you've been a bad boy instead 
thats just him the only one who attacks, i wanted at least another one to make things fun

they like the bad bois in the movies
well that's reality, i'd do the same, cba playing 4D chess to just get ppl cheating with gems 
No, I'm NA
But I face people at those levels as well
doy you?

i wish i had my opponent only 43 levels ahead of and still on same CP
i liked how he was before last maint
instead of what i get which is CP deficit and 55 levels ahead, still growing further apart every week 
pain...
yeah, it is
meanwhile kend dissapeared, curious on the 3rd team they skipping, but probably a padded team
for now im 35 level gapped but still in range
hang tight to it, it's just like virginity, at some point you'll just lose it forever

but good thing im still not cp gapped at all
he tried to balance 3 teams but that costed him to be close my cp
what whales should do is just form 2 massive CP gapped teams, almost needs no brain then
aye, as long as it stays like that it's free estate
yep, i like from that boi he is getting creative these days
Yeah ...
Similar
do you have cindy/pmaid/sanis/scarlet?
nvm, got it
your teams are on the right
just doublecheck CP and that you got all of those nikke and you should be gud
e.g. the only one i'm not sure you got or not is scarlet
if you want extra assurance on t1 you can replace laplace with biscuit, but should be uneeded
t1 should kill everything beside tia and centi (which you'll out trade afterward), t2 should kill their scarlet due to faster RL
also you get more feed than they do, due to multiple AR/SMGs
Scarlet/Blanc/Laplace+/Red Hood/Jackal
Noah/Rapunzel/Emilia/Biscuit/Centi
You say it. But you will only suffer when a whale come and gem you down every time you beat him.
but i will gem as well, he will not be alone

But he could be a hardcore whale like the one in Saka bracket yesterday and willing to spend 1000+ gem a day just to fight you.
Good luck with that
good thing i have been saving the rewads from sp for months
thats when the fun starts
One month like that and you could stop pulling new nikke lol
not really, im mostly skipping banners
but that could be the case, meta units usually take their time to come
like me skipping Grave

skipping grave is wild
but tbh will take me like 3 months to get aroudn to building her prolly
the bench gets warmer
I was planning to skip her too if not for getting her for my MLB REI.A
Win thx again 👍
I took the place of the big whale 😄
now you sent him a message
Im here you know
Lol
then proceeds to last for 1 hour because dude is checking pvp every hour 

thats me at night
usually got my rival 1h after he takes my spot
sometimes 33-45 mins
i'm not sure if i should be impressed or ask if you need help
i'll just go with the first for the time being 
what would happen if you had internet cut off for more than 2 hours?
both mobile data and wifi/cabled
I could do this too if there is only 1 guy hitting me 
might give him some more chips owo, like last wekeend, was out for like 7h and he kinda knew it haha.
its abad habbit of mine since i got multiple people attacking me before
well at least you went out to touch grass once
dude was probably worried you died or got isekaied
Or not. The bracket could only sink if your bracket being the most active of similar starting date.
he came to my bracket this current shuffle
i haven't seen my two initial whales for more than 7 months
along withj some new people
but checking their ID they still active
some of my old rivals quit and others got isekaied
My 2 initial whales quit and it took 2 seasons for them to be kicked out of c10. Maybe yours quit but you didn't notice.
the lad was on a mission
called tactical rat strike
any chefs in the kitchen today? im hungry 
but i was sleeping, in the morning was checking sp and it was : defeated 5 h ago
the real question is, was it more than 1 person? 
May you wish come true amen.
everyone was playing musical chairs
it was 1 person targetting me but any person in the bracket had at least one nemesis
ah fascinating
not too long ago in my bracket, e.g. 2 weeks at best, from rank 2 to rank 6 could defeat anyone within that rank, free 4 all
Aren't no way it could be done by more than one person lol
january bracket was best, would spend 5k gem per weekend 🤣🤣🤣
there is, someone literally gets a specific rank to drop you of 3 ranks, they've got gems to waste 
All those fight was in under 2 mins
the january-april bracket (before that screenshot) was even worse
oh you meant the time not the position, yeah agreed
i used to joke it was the west vs BRICS
cuz london + me (singapore) vs. chinese players + 1 brasilian
imagine geopolitics in this game 🤣
what the hell, how in the world was that worth it 
it absolutely wasnt
but i was up against someone with 40 costumes less than three months in
what is worth it at that point
good lord
the moment someone is spending all those gems can you even call it a win anymore
eh its fine, that original cn megawhale ended up selling his account
another one quit the game
the brasilian turned to being a mega leviathan
Did you stalked his address or sth?
you guys know your bracket more than i know my family
oh yeah, when it doesn't change for 8 months you kinda end up doing it without even intending to
no? he changed his ign to "selling account" in mandarin, profile msg to his QQ details
i think in ours c1-3 are just perma afk lmao
the only reason is because i found some spreadsheet on bilibili
i know my CN, JPN, 'MURICA and DEUTSCHE boys in there
detailing the times i would attack, and i saw them guessing my timezone & work/sleep schedule from that
good times
That allowed openly lol... Guess Nikke is safe for selling account.
you kidding me
that is something else lol
whole different kind of stalking there
is drake good on this team or i can improve
its fine
i wish i was, we had a good laugh
not here, against tos, but they did it anyway
"买或卖户口" as ign or something like that anyway
ToS is just for showed in some games.
megalol'd
idk, im just going to say its not for show otherwise we get f--ked by mods
reality may or may not be another thing idk
anyway its ok i didnt mind the constant fighting
i had such good gacha luck when i had messed up brackets. any banner unit i'd get within either one single or multi
when ppl stopped hitting me my gacha luck faded too
i would prefer not to deal with it now because i wear a lot more hats now, but at the time that was how i learnt this mode
cuz i dont read guides/etc
good ol' oldschool, learn from mistakes and self improvement
yeah
and my gacha luck then was so good i might be the only f2p to c7 pilgrim (crown) in one go
it is what it is
I tried to not reading and watching guide when I play game.
Only when I got hard stuck
walkthrough and guides generally ruin the experience
unless the game is clearly bad at giving you the hints needed
i would say it depends, but for singleplayers game, just going blind
in specific case of nikke, there's a whole lot of things in arena that without external info you'd be penalized not knowing about
gacha are basically single player.
i feel like gacha there is always a tech or tips that nobody or someone easily missed, that's why guide exist, haven't seen a game that is quite linear to the touch yet
but yea i just realized lol
It's just making content for life service games get easier money
Than old offline game
Those who do new offline game could only catching up with new game release after a few months. Can't stay one game forever.
the problem with most gacha is the resource access limit, it's detrimental to experimantion. E.g. if investing in a character ends up being wasteful, you could brick yourself... which leads digging for info on how to optimize resource expandure
and that kills self improvement or freedom without hints/handholding
at least in part
exactly this
could be just me but with the lack of resources per day for using and testing, i might just want to do things the most optimal way
on another topic
Just no point worry about that in single player lol.
What if other guys faster than you in a PvE game? Big deal.
it's kinda crazy that this spectific game mode which is arena holds a lot of complexity to it, compared to all other things
i once thought it was minor but i realized why team building have 2 different channel
pvp is lacking optimization and has a lot of "features" and "behaviours", a normal game would've already sorted this out and introduced QoL
i think it's more of a consequence of lack of maintenance
Feel like the top guys in my bracket just learn themselves rather than reading guides. Including me. That's why we were low in putting out meta comps 😂
And need many tries to beat each others.
Coming here and saw some tips like PvE hit to make SR p5 and burst calculator opened my eyes quite a bit lol
i see, true tho, 1 year later back to the game, this part literally got no changes, lol
yea, i was abt to ask, yesterday i noticed the pins and saw a a keripo tier list, but when i look at your team i think, damn this is quite different from what i am expecting, but i also realized u must have beaten lots of ppl to conclude this specific 3 teams is good and all
i think there will be a time i need to change to counter the other teams, but i hope in general this will be good
yeah arena is all about rock paper scissor, once you learn the patterns you can and should predict the outcome before match has even started
and you'll most likely reach a point where defense will become trivial on equal geared opponent
which tends to lead to this
we don't even bother rotating our lineups anymore, just gave up and keep back and forth 
Lol, must be pretty bothersome to keep changing, now is just back and forth haha
i'm building toward high win ratio teams, but even those can be countered
had a stable 3-4 days, but then he found the right cards to play and here we are
From what i've seen even god comp can be counter, and with more nikkes the meta will always change
quite indeed
High win rate doesn't mean much when people just hard counter your 2 weaker team anyway
Test fight winning against different teams but in the end they would only use one team against you.
"your defense is as good as your worst 2 teams"
unless you manage to bait with a team that looks bad, but has a gimmick to it, like some stall teams
indeed, there's rock, there's paper, there's scissor... and then there's wallet, which beats all 3
Damn there bait teams also 😭
Harsh world we live in isn't it
indeed, a few seem like troll teams but then you get the surprise 
Did you gem today?
Btw a question, the team u build, do u build 3 with ATK and DEF same team or are they usually different 
I just noticed they are 2 different things, i just slap them the same comps
They are vastly different lol. I use an uncommon Emilia team for attacking, it's hard to defend with it. And a CP gap team for attacking as well which can't burst usually.
My defense are often 3RL
for PVP, are points given based on CP difference or by rank difference
Arena points determine your ranks at the end.
Ah i see, i might have to ask you to build another time then, i think the team you build for me was for attacking then i think, i log off the game for today
i mean when you beat someone and gain points, what determines how many points you get per win?
Well, you could try to build your team to 3 meta team.
The teams I gave out should be for immediate use considering which you have built.
So don't use it for the long run but build up your meta pvp units if you want improvement.
i never gem unless it's the very last day and it earns me at least 200 gems
e.g if it's a breaker from 4ch to 3ch
I should give these disclaimer in my suggestion later on...
Don't keep using my build in the long run lol...
Because i quitted the have i have hold a quite a few resources so when i seek the advice i just assume that team was the best case with the current characters i have
Gotcha, lol, maybe i'll ask on here tmr if someone is free to help
points are based on your rank in SP arena
then, depending on your accumulate points against other players, determines your end of season reward
tokens are for ranking, arena tickets are for the shop (the ones in the circle)
You could ask @tropic summit for his speardsheet of strong teams he has been saving. 
those are well known high win rate teams, not really mine
But you save them as imagine
in fact there are more than 3, they're even in the pinned 

check which nikke you got and assemble the ones with highest win ratio ^
so if I am 2nd place, I need to keep hitting 3rd and 4th place, assuming I lose to 1st place? And 3rd place will give more points than 4th place?
Yeah build your team to them if you want a general direction
@silk current
I think if you hit someone over and over again the points also go down after every subsequent win right?
if you're 2nd place for 24h, you get the points for 2nd place.
if you're 2nd place for 12h, then rank 1 because you beat top rank, you'll get 12h of also rank 1 instead of rank 2
i'm talking about ranking points I mean
like everytime you beat someone you get +14 points
you don't get points when beating people in sp arena, you only get arena points (for shop)
ranking points are only gained when holding a rank for X hours
ohhh I am talking about rookie looolll
Damn that looks... Kinda confusing
ye rookie gives you points based on the difference of rookie ranking points
the arena that doesn't matter but it matters for my pride
ah based on points difference, got it.
Yea i'll check it out tmr, it looks a bit compicated tho idk
you can discard your pride in rookie, it won't last if you're matched with a whale 
Just get any 3 of those teams that are not overlap nikkes you like and having enough units for then build up to them
if it's any consolation i don't think anyone really thinks about who they attack in rookie
I have a chance to snipe first
i just attack the first 2 on my list for daily
1st place dude went up 40k CP overnight just cuz for a while he couldn't beat me.
Well, I have a whale seeking me out even if I'm in rank 30+ to hit once a day.
that's kinda ill lmaoo
what did you do to him
there's a lot of ill ppl on ranking 
Just being the only guy that hit him in SP...
some ppl can get also very vengeful for the slightest things
Alright, i think i might ask a few questions tmr, u guys have a good day tho, gn

sleep well good sir
See ya tmr
In my case we just hit each other for fun of sort.
yeah i get it:
quite indeed 
keep in mind that if you were not directly below/above, they actually went through the effort of "refresh list" as long as needed to find you and fight you 5 times 
this happened then he dumped money to go up 40k CP. I think this will be the only week where I can be 1st place.
fortunately for you ranking in rookie has nearly no meaning
Idk about dumping money
you get the avatar ring no?
Maybe that guys held all his core box for fun
i've way too many rings to care anymore 
that's copium, but yeah a slight possibility
I wanna get some #1 avatar frame
Bro I have 4k corebox 
y tho
I go for lowest clear
resource optimization going full throttle there
Still 37/50 gold when all other top c10 in SP have that one... Sadge
the later you use the boxes, the higher the income from opening them
at least if you climb on campaign (hard mode included)
what a madlad
oh I see what you mean. I saved up for a while until I got to maybe lv 500, then I just spammed em
100k-120k CP difference is the highest i'm going lately
Doesn't matter much when you climb high enough in the red.
i feel like im going to stay at 70-71 for a while
You mean top 3 history lowest CP for campaign? That's a tall order.
Can't even top 5 lowest clear for chapter 18 due to iron weak stage
now that's some real calling tho
Top 3 for monthly can't beat top 3 all time due to how CP work
what happens if they top your top 3 score at some point tho 🤔
can i put laplace treasure on this team to replace centi?
You can just save up to high level than use lv1 nikke to lower the CP.
I mean if they can't top 317k in mirror they can have it 
The history lowest of my server all did it.
Nah those don't count
They are never recognized by people who actually low clear
Lv500 + lv1 = 300k easy
sir i've bad news for you (why the sakura anyway)
without centi you drop to 4RL from 3RL
for comparison, this is with centi instead
I beat behemoth with 354 which was fun
I probably won't take campaign normal seriously since my CP will be over capped now
Then if a guy cleared at a lower level than you but higher CP they should dis-recognized you as well. 
dang what does rl mean
Anyway I hold myself in high regard. Cause I don't own redhood 
well the lad is playing his own game, and as long as he's having fun, all good
Broken character 
RH needs a treasure item, clearly underperfoming 
Would be top 3 on everything if I own her 
someone said sakura is a good off dps for attack so i put her
that is very depending on situation
hmm
then again, up to you
Also for someone to beat mirror boss they need like this much element OL to compete https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1037432098644045915/1307139962969395331/07e7e18802d417b17b7a680e2ca77d57.png?ex=67471034&is=6745beb4&hm=68265b81c8a2a4f0eb45260d39d37e03a6a782dca4500ccdf2ffffc5b51d9e32&
sometimes a splash RL might be better than a random DoT damage

I could get better but 20 rocks for each of these was solid compared to my 70 rocks ein
Ein at least have black atk, black ele, and another black ele but one scuffed line
Gotta go back to fixing Alice and sbs
rocks gonna go down
anyone better? i checking this but not sure how to pick
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1R6qzhnPx85kEoYidYUs-K0hJy61APMQGj5nRSgdvRUU/edit?gid=0#gid=0
I remember seeing the lowest history with 1 level 400+, 1 level 1, and one level 200. Wonder how they did that!
High sync always stronger in high deficit kekw
post your box so someone can cook a lineup for you and see what you get 
Level 200 is rental unit
Yeah. But you could build one as well
If they have resource to wait to level 500 to beat a stage that could beaten at 260 them they could built their own 200s as well.
i think that's beyond the purpose
they want to leave a mark by clearing with lowest possible setup
it's all about the e-peen and perhaps ego, but a challange i can understand for those who're hardcore enough
i personally wouldn't, am not invested that much to pull it off 
Why is in negative
ok 

Yeah, way too hardcore for me. Didn't look at it closely enough.
It 317k for mirror container btw
So if they can beat they really need a gaming chair 
I don't think you can PVP under a hundred levels against others
ok you've quite a lot of nikke, might aswell be faster giving you a few teams to work on 
assemble these teams and then post them if you've any nikke of these missing we'll round them around what you missing
else just run as is
Well, he could just stay in diamond 50 range in a bracket with lots of casual like him.
Top 50 
if the dude is extremely motivated, he can unleash their wallet-kun to solve all issues, slowly catching up 
Diamond 5 
rats be quick, 2 minutes to server reset 
1.4k gems missed hurts a bit
Not everyone can get Challenger 3 
aye, you're right
i made the teams 
Like 3 people can get c3 I bet.
why the negative colors though?
Dark node
Google sheet don't have dark mode
I use dark mode extension and it flip it

Death note 
wrong rapu in team 3, use the right one 
Mine has it
I guess we have a mystery in hands 
Must be window 11 
Mobile 
Then no
i just checked dont got her yet 
so you missing rumani and rapu, correct?
yeah
Idk if these boxes worth it at this point
They all give blue dolls anyway... But too high star I had to take it.
i'd say try these:
just taek em, its fine
just as i thought he did really hit me 2 min before reset leave me no room to strike back
what a lame tactics
Well you could just get kits instead.
rat tactics, the lowest of the lowest 
now either spend gems or lose the trade of 2 wins 2 defense loss
Not my strongest luck but I would take it. After full of blue and purple these days.
Finally my first nikke on my first account, Mary came home.
I rerolled 4 account for Elegg.
that's dedication

i'm long past my days of rerolling
that crap was enough during fate/GO
never again 
I'm not reroll for meta 😂
Without Elegg I won't be here today.
Without Makima I wouldn't even try this game. Too late though.
i would def spent gem this time
can't let this loser win
I rerolled fgo during its first month. 20-30 ish account for 3 account with 5* or sth then I never really started that game...
aight, go get em cowboy
haha that can happen
burnout from rerolling even before playing 
cool thanks for this! question i havent invested in bay whats her mid invest here also im i able to swap anis for emilla on team 3?
yes anis (not s.anis) is used as battery, so emilia can cover the same role
as for bay, i used her as i had to work around your team 3 lacking the initial nikkes
this can survived both scarlet / cindy nuke and semi-stall too
not tested with emila yet
emilia bypasses bay's cover thingie
i assume cinderella does too since it's multiple attacks
both emilia / bis survived the cindy burst tho just tested recently
partial shared damage working great
im a fan of bay too just thinking about how cindi's continue attacks interacts with bay
bay won't survive long cuz she lack of any useful kit after burst despite im giving her SR Doll/ Tempering cube
uh that's good to know cuz i was considering getting a bay built up 🤔
She need healing or else just to catch scarlet cut.
her shield is the only thing that's important
when it's gone she might as well be dead
im thinking about switching emil > Rapunzel for healing but damage gonna be down bad
could somebody help me improve my SP arena teams?
in which kind of team you wanna do that?
this?
yep just switching emil to rap
I think the 20 boxes doesn't worth it. 40-60 maybe.
your ss is 2x 60x i believe (idk, im drunk)
if its 60x just take first and dont bother asking questions 
so I have to build either Ein or Drake for missilis tower since I'm missing Laplace. Which one has more crossover usage here?
Im kinda leaning towards Drake since she can always be a battery.
Drake if you have no Clip SG built. Ein if you lack one for 3 DPS.
Drake could be half ass. Ein need high investment
Ein is a carry for tower though. Drake just filler there.
Ein without a doubt
Unless Drake treasure 
But Ein just wrecks Missilis tower
I use Ein at 4s in skills no overload and she's very effective already 
Is there a list of pvp teams somewhere?

Inside echo's head
Only 5 teams are there tbh

Not CA, it uses repeated units
Noah SBS
Scar jack
Emilia nuke
Moran summer anis....
Wait, what am I missing
check pinned, you can see high win rate team compos in keripo's matrix, gives you a clue
where's your cindy at
taking a stroll?
there could also be a shotgun team if we talk about CA
She's not CP padded enough 
Rosanna SG 
🎈
🎈


rosana RL 
would it be useful to snipe before the shuffle?
or perhaps would it be better to sandbag before shuffle.
peace and quiet again
Emilia 215 
Aren't the other at 280 synch at least? 

You are 
am i

Why you so demanding while being so low in your bracket 
Nah, I tested it before
nothing matters

If I had Echo’s CD cases, I’d be even with the filthy mongrels in my SP Arena group
only some getting transfered i've seen 2-3 new faces from 2 season ago other than that are all same face since dayone
whale to 475
@quasi prism our Chinese character enemy hit about an hr ago
soon, they will feel the real fear haha
thats how people get motivated
no yet
they are all being silent after the promise of oktober
x.anne is replaced to rumani already
Finally fighting for top 3 against whales 
that alice a hero

Yeah I know lmao, 1v4 EZ 
For 1 day

man when alice pops off it felt so good
unexpected final
He has such low stats i wonder how honestly
Christmas was canceled
Shifty Up gave us coal instead of CA

Echo, you can save Christmas
Be a hero
And give us all your CD cases
Help the less fortunate
I don't celebrate kurismasu 
A baby can't be conceived in winter 
Do you know how many people would pound u into the ground for saying something like that?
There are millions of people born near Christmas
Who get absolutely shafted
Not in exteriors two thousand years ago 
Because they get Christmas/birthday gifts
They will take their lack-of-presents frustrations out on u, Echo
You may have to stay inside your house until spring…

hibernation

💤
/me steals all of Echo’s CD cases and donates them to The Salvation Army
can someone help me build 3 good pvp teams with this?
loading
So, you started on Eva collab right? 
Uninvested units PVP units
but you have them, good
I'm going to do something funny 
Rei/Blanc/Rosanna/Centi/Jackal
This last two with quantum cube, level it up to level 3
Rei burst gen so bad 
Still 3 RL 
1 more week to more info on winter units 
And auto team for the third
Also, synch Naga, she goes well with Tia/Crown for PVE
Not both at the same time tho
Rei.A+Blanc+Asuka+Centi+Jackal (3rl)
Mari+Viper+Anis+Neon+Cindy. (3rl)
Noah(quantum)+Noise+Marciana+QuencyEQ+Drake (3rl)
Now you have feed problem 
rei and blanc? that's certainly something
yep
A lot
That's why I used Rosanna
still fighting 160 with my life
Asuka is their highest CP Nikke, feed or not doesn't matter when you got auto attacked.
Scarlet can beat any team 
He is walled, he will get auto attacked regardless of using Asuka
He is walled but other could be walled too. Just ignore the limited breakers
I'd trust Rosanna unlink 
respectfully asking: what tf does 3rl mean
most people in pvp that i see are not walled
Is the burst speed of your team. 3rl is good and the common speed. 4 RL is bad and only for niche use. 2rl is hard to get to.
Average meta speed 
i am 1 unit away from breaking 160 tho
still have my selection thing and 400 golden tickets/ 200 normal ones
ah i see
never really went for pvp teams cause i always thought "yeah ill start getting into that when i break 160"
and since i am close i wanna start getting into it rn
Respectful decision
rn most people just beat me cause of cp advantage anyways

Nah you'd win. 🙃

i heard the order of units should be reversed on the defense teams
is that correct?
also does it matter if you quick battle or not?
Instead of measure it in kilometers per hour we measure things in rocket launcher shots fired
So that's why 2RL>3RL
Not at all
being fed misinformation :/
There you go to the pin comments and learn. Or figured it out as you play.
I've heard it matters and is better to avoid it
but I still use it anyways when I know it's easy win
As part of the misinformation military academy I will not allow and correspondingly inform you of the right info 
I think one in my bracket goes by figuring out things
I respect him
okok good to ty
well thank you for the help ill see when i have time to build the units
i would too if this would be my main game
have to put too much time into league of legends tho
May your overload rolls be blessed :Birbpunzel: 
getting scammed since day 1 but ty
Rossana uninvested will just die to scarlet in 2 RL. She is more useless then you thought.
:Yanbirb... Idk:
ye will do but rn i use liter crown asuka rei modernia for story stuff and it is going fine
will prob use tia naga for some raids or interception
i still need to look into that
Crown Naga is meta 
or crown naga
like i said ill see xd
i just want to break 160 so i can finally use some materials tho xd
before that i dont want to get too deep into thinking about proper teambuilding etc
since it doesnt really make a difference rn
Well, right now is almost proper
Very good 


@graceful grotto 
In case she isn't ded, Blanc will hook to her, not Rei.A lol .
Tbf, he just need to invest Rossana gear and give her vigor cube. Problem solved.
If you built right, a Scarlet attack team could beat any team.
Noah wall? Just 1RL faster than it or Blanc solo.
Blanc wall? Just 1RL faster wipe or 0.3RL slower Blanc.
Rossana shot? Just Rev it with XAnne. Likely won't even work at higher level.
That's why Scarlet is T1 in Arena and not Cindy.
The concern is if Scarlet dies and XAnne resurrects her, Scar burst hits like a wet noodle because she loses her stacks
That’s what I’ve experienced against an opponent who did XAnne and Scar. Thought I was done for, too.
me without investing Rosanna:
does xanne's atk buff apply before or after she resurrect?




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