pvp-arena

[keen vapor]

Blanc/Emilia/RH/Biscuit/"clip RL"

Noise/Rapunzel/SBS/Jackal/Noah

[tawny vine]

I'm 380 rn and at sync 311. roughly 15 lvls+ above but likely a big fish in a small pond scenario

[grizzled bone]

SPA Def

Scarlet-Blanc-Liter-Noir-Jackal
Noise-ASS-Biscuit-Emilia-Moran
Crown-Cindy-RH-Lappy+3-Centi

you box is heavily pve oriented.
I dont expect these teams suggestions to be well optimised

[keen vapor]

If you really started at Re Zero event, you'll be 20 levels over me while I started like 4 months before

[grizzled bone]

you are also not a great frame of reference...

[lavish dawn]

I started at SBS/Modernia rerun. January? February?

[keen vapor]

[grizzled bone]

hoarder

[keen vapor]

@lavish dawn C'MON, ADMIT IT, YOU BOUGHT CORE DUST WITH REAL MONEY

[tawny vine]

that makes a bit more sense then yeah

[lavish dawn]

That's very true, I am missing a lot of investment in pvp units, thank you for your help. @keen vapor as well.

[vapid lake]

Bro look at how many gacha skins he has, obviously he bought some dust

[lavish dawn]

Just a bit -_-

[keen vapor]

You're really higher 20 levels

Two months of advantage

[lavish dawn]

We don't talk about such things

[umbral crown]

go for C1

[lavish dawn]

I could take it, but I couldn't keep it

[keen vapor]

I started two months earlier and I'm lower level

I'm a failure

[umbral crown]

but you can keep C3?

ask echo to make you some nice defense teams

[umbral crown]

if it fails, keep changing till the end

still 3k gems tho

can i see your defense?

[keen vapor]

Seriously what's this, you told me to cook and I leave my preview to discuss synchro level

[lavish dawn]

I did just change it up before coming here since I did finally get knocked out of third earlier today. Took it back but would like something better than what I came up with

[rich quail]

Are… are you talking back to your superior?

[keen vapor]

We're same rank

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

We're both rookies

[umbral crown]

if it was me with no cp or level penalty you would have been C6 already but if its working for you no need to change, people in your bracket are not that bright if they still lose to you

[vapid lake]

Must be nice to be in a bracket full of casual waifu enjoyers and not pvpers

[tawny vine]

you should probably start investing in noah if you want to pvp for real

[vapid lake]

[tawny vine]

you already have dps so just literally need to fill with batteries and defenders

[keen vapor]

[lavish dawn]

I know, it's kind of nice ngl

[umbral crown]

[vapid lake]

U can always come back here once they finally learn the way

[umbral crown]

yeah

[vapid lake]

Im sure echo will cook well

[lavish dawn]

top 5 units to focus on?

[umbral crown]

would he?

[lavish dawn]

Well 4 plus Noah?

[vapid lake]

I still believe in echo

[keen vapor]

Noah team: Noise, Biscuit, Rapunzel

[grizzled bone]

it's okay people who started later than me are higher than me 🙂

[grizzled bone]

[keen vapor]

Anis as well

[tawny vine]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1R6qzhnPx85kEoYidYUs-K0hJy61APMQGj5nRSgdvRUU/htmlview

just work your way down the list and it'll give you all the options

[keen vapor]

The destiny of F2P PVPer

[keen vapor]

I've been defeated I really should go back to PVP joke, it fits me too well

[lavish dawn]

Thank you!

[vapid lake]

It's not too late to start whaling U can catch up by getting 10 extra level a month

[tawny vine]

there will always be a bigger whale 🫡

[vapid lake]

Fund internkun's paycheck

[lavish dawn]

Just have 50% more CP than everyone else and it's easy

[keen vapor]

I'm broke

And @rich quail doesn't sponsors me

[grizzled bone]

he broke too

[keen vapor]

She?

[grizzled bone]

are there really any grills on the internet? or people just pretending to be?

[keen vapor]

Seems believable to me

[keen vapor]

[rich quail]

@keen vapor I’m sorry I catfished u

I just wanted your ma merch

[keen vapor]

Not my MA merch that I'm not able to receive

[crude ginkgo]

is there a guide for PVP teams? Sometimes I lose to teams 60k combat power below me? I think I'm doing something wrong

[keen vapor]

[crude ginkgo]

Oh I see. There is a bunch of them from different people do you recommend any?

[keen vapor]

This

Is what I use

[crude ginkgo]

Okay TY

[umbral crown]

Anis....

[keen vapor]

He lacks Rumani

Also, he saw the tier list so...

[umbral crown]

but did you?

[keen vapor]

I did

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

waos

i do not think i will be OLing Anis anytime soon

[tawny vine]

interesting to know my anis is missing 30k power those must be some decent ols

[keen vapor]

I think I need to overload Rumani next

[keen vapor]

They actually are
10 lines at phase 11

3 charge speed lines,
1 ele

There's a lot of critical/charge damage, even one hit rate

Technically useless but excellent for CP

[brittle hill]

Rumani only has 4 ammo, that's nuts

[keen vapor]

4 lines

My Noah lines in comparison are terrible

[umbral crown]

as the owner

[tawny vine]

focused on solo raid recently but yeah want to OL pvp again everyone below emilia were not blessed with rolls

[nocturne arrow]

help me defeat him

[keen vapor]

FINALLY ATTACK REQUEST

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

echo will help

[keen vapor]

Noahless have you tried with Scarlet Alter instead?

[nocturne arrow]

not yet actually

[tawny vine]

my opinion just move blanc to pos 3 or make her tankier you're only losing cause she's dead

[keen vapor]

However, wait a minute

[nocturne arrow]

change her cube and reroll to have def?

[grizzled bone]

it is echos time

[tawny vine]

by tankier I mean OL, doll, and cube. otherwise could also prolly just do blanc/noise/ein/biscuit/jackal.

wont die to scarlet regardless

and yeah echo is prolly cooking anyway just my opinion

[nocturne arrow]

biscuit is not fully build yet, cant get 2 gear to overload

[keen vapor]

I checked test matrix and he needs either Scarlet/Noah at least

[tawny vine]

Unless you're at deficit doesnt really matter

[nocturne arrow]

dont have both

[keen vapor]

Liter/SBS/Blanc/Centi/Jackal is your best chance and is not a good one

[nocturne arrow]

so no noise?
liter does have higher CP

[keen vapor]

Blanc summer anis noise you suggest?

And biscuit

And jackal

[tawny vine]

so long as blanc lives this guy wins

[keen vapor]

Checked, is 4 RL it won't make it

[keen vapor]

No, 4 RL will burst after Scarlet's slash, you'll die

[nocturne arrow]

i just want to show you the CP with the recomended formation

[keen vapor]

So it's terrible

[tawny vine]

it's such a weak scarlet pretty sure they live even without bursting lol

[keen vapor]

Well, is not in deficit, is okay

[tawny vine]

just send the second team and you'll win and I can go bed since invested now

[keen vapor]

Yeah, try with the second one

[nocturne arrow]

the one with s anis?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[nocturne arrow]

gonna try it tomorrow since i use all my try lol

do i need to change that formation?

[tawny vine]

I would send you 100 gems if i could

[keen vapor]

The thing we care about is if it goes under 15.4% of opponent CP, it doesn't

[nocturne arrow]

i could spent 100 gems but i will wait tomorrow in case i can overgear biscuit

[tawny vine]

also idk about s.anis she might just delete herself since it's still scarlet. so would still recommend ein but you do you

#pvp-arena message

[worthy knoll]

Just use the same team but with Alice or SBS instead of Ein

[keen vapor]

Summer anis should get Indom ideally

[tawny vine]

I've seen some SG units die before bursting but yeah ideally

[umbral crown]

[worthy knoll]

@thick anvil

[rustic sandal]

need help making a pvp team

[keen vapor]

Wait, you aren't walled

You fooled me

[rustic sandal]

no am lvl 160

[keen vapor]

YOU AREN'T YOU HAVE 5 MLB UNITS

[rustic sandal]

but i need so much battle data

[keen vapor]

THAT'S NO WALL ALREADY

[rustic sandal]

yh i decided to stop saving standard ticket and go crazy pulling on standard

[keen vapor]

I'm a fool

[rustic sandal]

also i got jackal

i just need a team for sp arena

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Scarlet/Blanc/Red Hood/Noir/Jackal

..... Uuhhh, you still lack units

[umbral crown]

you should level uo your max limit break unit as the main in your syncronize device

[rustic sandal]

can u make a team with the current units i have right now

[rustic sandal]

oh yh i forgot about diesel

[keen vapor]

I can add

Noir/Anis/Cindy/N102/Laplace

And then auto team

[umbral crown]

you fooled yourself

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

remove naga or maid privaty and use same resouces to level one of them

[rustic sandal]

i should remove naga?

[keen vapor]

From synch device

[rustic sandal]

oh from synch device

[keen vapor]

Wishlist Noise please

[umbral crown]

yeah and same resources to level up a max limit breka unit then you add naga to your sync dev

[keen vapor]

Get Rouge off from wishlist, you don't need more copies of her, instead wishlist Alice, you need to get her to core 7

[rustic sandal]

damn core 7

[umbral crown]

thats for pve

[keen vapor]

Also, I would get Maxwell out and wishlist Centi

[keen vapor]

And Diesel isn't good... But there's no good unit in Elysion besides Privatys and D Wife

[rustic sandal]

even with favorite weapon?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[rustic sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/mamma-mia-oh-my-surprised-super-mario64-mario-gif-15088897

[brittle hill]

Get Rumani instead of volume, she's pretty good with Noise (no doll)

[gaunt viper]

May i have an SP arena squad suggestion whenever there's time? thank you

[keen vapor]

Volume still wanted for raids

[rustic sandal]

am sorry captain but volume thicker than a snicker

[brittle hill]

lol I just hit early so I leave the heavy hitters to do the hard work

[rustic sandal]

the amount of battle data u need is crazy

[umbral crown]

till Diesel starts to carry you in Elysion towa¨

[keen vapor]

He doesn't knows that he needs tons of core dust

[rustic sandal]

but oh when elysion gets updated?

[keen vapor]

Well... That's true...

[umbral crown]

Echo will cook the teams for you

[rustic sandal]

next year looks like an elysion update

[keen vapor]

What do you mean?

[umbral crown]

units.. not sure but tower you have the schedule in tower when you enter

[umbral crown]

cook Cain teams

[rustic sandal]

when absolute new drip gets into pulls

or ssr rapi

[keen vapor]

But I don't get it

[umbral crown]

scroll up

[gaunt viper]

sounds good if they're alright with it 😅

[keen vapor]

Ah, we don't know

[umbral crown]

use the MA skills

[keen vapor]

I am

[umbral crown]

are you?

[rustic sandal]

yh i feel like next year will just be full of elysion units

[keen vapor]

EH

[umbral crown]

mustang

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

2025 of tetra

[keen vapor]

Oh right, cooking service

[keen vapor]

When you started btw?

[rustic sandal]

am going to openmold

[keen vapor]

#gacha-rolls

[rustic sandal]

i got two laplace

[umbral crown]

does this really matters

[keen vapor]

I can't get more Laplace

[gaunt viper]

November of last year

[keen vapor]

I'm curious

[keen vapor]

YOU WHALED, YOU TOTALLY DID

DIDN'T YOU?!

[rustic sandal]

am just like u

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

F2P can't be higher synch than me

[gaunt viper]

no whales here lol

[brittle hill]

[umbral crown]

imagine whaling

[keen vapor]

AT LEAST SOME SPENDING ON CORE DUST

[rustic sandal]

imagine whaling

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/vistima-interview-doing-the-best-gif-14557051

[keen vapor]

HOW YOU HAVE 17 MORE LEVELS THAN ME

[rustic sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-grandma-lets-get-you-to-bed-yes-grandma-gif-6683134261581381982

[gaunt viper]

nah I've just been buying core dust from shop for gems everytime I see them

[umbral crown]

do i really have to tell you why?

[keen vapor]

[rustic sandal]

echo dont be playing everyday

[keen vapor]

NO HOARDING WAS SUPPOSED TO IMPROVE MY LEVEL

[umbral crown]

stop yelling and start cooking

[rustic sandal]

whys making a pvp team so ahrd

[keen vapor]

[gaunt viper]

I just got the same routine and I've been following it every day and pushing as hard as I can in each day

[umbral crown]

because you need to know the unit and the synergy between them

[umbral crown]

thats the way

[gaunt viper]

tho still stuck on 20-31 hard mode

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

and not hoarding boxes for nikke 2.5

[rich quail]

Use your core dust, u chump

[keen vapor]

Oh right, you used your government boxes for core dust?

[gaunt viper]

you mean the selection boxes? yeah core dust every day baby

[keen vapor]

Then if you started to buy event stamina a month earlier + meta buffers earlier than me.... Yeah, that makes sense

Now I can be sure I have triple of credits as you

[gaunt viper]

I started a few days after RH dropped

[keen vapor]

When you got your first B2 meta unit?

[gaunt viper]

I was too late for the Nier collab

[gaunt viper]

shoot i don't remember tbh

[keen vapor]

Before Crown event?

[gaunt viper]

yeah before crown for sure

[gaunt viper]

got Naga like 1 month after I started id wanna say

[keen vapor]

Way better advantage over me

[umbral crown]

means nothing if you do not use them

but where the cook?

[keen vapor]

On notes

[umbral crown]

we waiting

[gaunt viper]

tho I did reroll like 30 times at least for RH after having played for 3 days only to be told I should've Rerolled

[keen vapor]

Can you overload Moran?

[keen vapor]

Huh?

[gaunt viper]

I actually just got Moran so I don't have anything invested into her yet but I could

[warped scaffold]

Cp diff is crazy

[gaunt viper]

huh?

[keen vapor]

Oh I got it, you got told, then rerolled 30, ok

[keen vapor]

But there's no Bay.... What I could cook....

[keen vapor]

Must be nice

[warped scaffold]

XD

Funny how I'm not even a whale and 3rd place is a whale

[keen vapor]

Scarlet/Blanc/Centi/RH/Jackal

Noah/Noise/Summer Anis/Biscuit/Rapunzel

Moran/Crown/Cindy/Emilia/Anis

Equip first defender on each team with Tempering cube, well maybe Crown instead of Noah since she's invincible anyways

You better have tempering cube at 7 just as your Resi/bastion cubes

[quick lake]

Tempering at 7??

Is it even worth to use union chips to lv

[keen vapor]

Also invest doll on Moran, better if you can invest skills as well but there's winter units coming

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

[bleak latch]

any recommend op for moran?

[keen vapor]

My favorite team

[bleak latch]

im thinking of Moran/Bay/S.Anis team atm

[umbral crown]

do not make...

[keen vapor]

Moran Biscuit Summer Anis I haven't tested Bay tho

[umbral crown]

10-10-10, max doll and good lines of atk or defense. ez

[bleak latch]

[quick lake]

expensive

[umbral crown]

cheap

[bleak latch]

max doll has to wait but SR doll LV1 doable

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

If you use Bay, you can use another B3 units, like Cindy

[gaunt viper]

i actually did 100 recruit summons prion to see if i could get her or the other 5 nikke im missing but ended up getting another Alice, Liter, and Tia

[keen vapor]

Is more efficient blue doll first

[umbral crown]

[bleak latch]

already found her optimal team tho

im thinking of retiring og scarlet team and build up some stall comp

[brittle hill]

think on it

[bleak latch]

ik about that but just noise alone is enough for her atk buff

[keen vapor]

[bleak latch]

so sanis can be in other team

[umbral crown]

where your C7 Cindy tho

[bleak latch]

no luck this anniv

[quick lake]

[umbral crown]

she in the middle saying... i want to be C7 too

[gaunt viper]

I've got tempering lvl 3 , was told not to prioritize it

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Well, not over resilience bastion cubes

[umbral crown]

but the important question.. you going pvp or pve route

[gaunt viper]

those are both lvl 8rn

[keen vapor]

[gaunt viper]

honestly as of rn both tho ive settled my pve for the most part

[umbral crown]

if pvp then quatum and tempura

[gaunt viper]

quantum still lvl 5

[umbral crown]

along with vigor

[gaunt viper]

same with vigor, lvl 5

[quick lake]

Quantum to 7 first imo if u wanna pvp

Thats assuming u’re not planning for resi to lv 10/13

[keen vapor]

Nah

[umbral crown]

echo with quatum lv1

why i so slow

[gaunt viper]

yeah ive got everything at lvl 5 other than tempering (lvl 3) and relic assist (lvl 3)

[umbral crown]

why if both teams are 3 RL they are bursting first than me

[quick lake]

Everything…?

[gaunt viper]

besides resil and bastion at lvl 8

ive been sitting on 19k union shop currency not sure where to put it

[bleak latch]

[quick lake]

Looks slow

[bleak latch]

yep took forever to burst

[keen vapor]

Swap Drake for Anis

[gaunt viper]

ill lvl tempering to lvl 5 at least for the moment but maybe to 7 🤔 . also do i fully OL Moran and Cindy? neither have OL yet

[bleak latch]

didn't build her

[keen vapor]

Rumani?

[umbral crown]

2 SG.. scar jack and good bai

[keen vapor]

Yes they need CP

[umbral crown]

🎈

[bleak latch]

other two will look like this if this team is used

[bleak latch]

good trade off if i can force enemy to use scarlet on this one XD

[umbral crown]

RH there for emotional support?

[bleak latch]

oof wrong position

[umbral crown]

yeah, fix it

[umbral crown]

please and thanks

you trust noah to live to burst?

[bleak latch]

yes i do

[umbral crown]

team looks fast but if you do, go for it

[bleak latch]

she have better of than my scarlet

[umbral crown]

[gaunt viper]

I had full OL Volume, Noah, Naga, and Crown the a few days ago for pve meta that i was behind on (still was using bunny girls) and then for pvp cause i was trying to beat the number 1 in rookie pvp for days

[keen vapor]

2RL surely..... But why 2RL on delayed nuke?

[umbral crown]

[gaunt viper]

gonna need to use some credit cases

[keen vapor]

I would regret OL for Volume

[bleak latch]

just for fast burst activated

[umbral crown]

but then blocked by a normal 3 RL noah

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

for defense im not bursting with emilia anymore

[bleak latch]

welp if too slow will be rosana / og scarlet prey too

[gaunt viper]

actually OL on volume was what really made a difference. was experimenting with Agent_Eon

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

but is it working for you?

[bleak latch]

yep only 3rd team is my problem atm. the scarlet one

other two seem fine

[umbral crown]

2 RL rosa can still nuke emi since she will burst before noah

but for 3rd team which nikkes are free?

[bleak latch]

either s.anis/scarlet

[umbral crown]

but which B1 and B2

[bleak latch]

that why im thinking about this one but ik it has a flaw

[umbral crown]

you can use it for now, till a better idea comes

[bleak latch]

week ago it used to be like this till recently look like he finally has good atk team

[umbral crown]

he was testing your defense to figure it out

like my rival did for like 2 weeks

now he found out

[bleak latch]

yep now i jsut copied his defense team just to troll him out

not effective defense but still won at attcking every day

[umbral crown]

he just attacked, good timing

[umbral crown]

and he does not gem

so this was his 2nd attempt

[umbral crown]

Now he can rest till reset

[bleak latch]

[umbral crown]

[dapper blade]

what cube for cinderella for pvp?

[bleak latch]

more HP = more damage dealing more nuke damage

[dapper blade]

ok nice thanks

[umbral crown]

Vigor

[dapper blade]

thank u

[keen vapor]

I need Vigor at 7, Adjutant at 7, quantum at 8 is there any other cube I need to invest?

Relic Cube: Meow

[graceful grotto]

lvl 10 em

kewk

[silk current]

cinder good for pvp?

[keen vapor]

For nuking, yes

[silk current]

mind checking out a new team for me,? this is my old team, i can send roster
Scarlet+Blanc+RH+Anis+Jackal

Pepper+Centi+Rossanna+Cindy+ Noir

Noah+Biscuit+S.Anis+Rapunzel+Drake

[keen vapor]

But I cooked that
Swap Anis and Centi between teams

[graceful grotto]

am actually surprise how good noise is, gonna OL her now no regrets

[silk current]

oh lol i see, that team was made by blood when i asked, thanks then, anis and centi flexible? got it

[graceful grotto]

both are high burst gen unit

[keen vapor]

Technically yes but also not really, Anis has lower natural stats so ideally we want Centi there who has high HP and so she won't steal Indom buff

[gaunt viper]

btw what did you mean by that end part for crown instead of noah? "Equip first defender on each team with Tempering cube, well maybe Crown instead of Noah since she's invincible anyways"

[keen vapor]

Crown might get splash damage from rocket launchers, we don't want her to die early

It has happened to me a lot with Blanc

[rich quail]

You could easily fix your Blanc problem

[keen vapor]

No, I got the ammo on noise instead why blue there

[rich quail]

Because you don’t go to church

And pray for forgiveness

[keen vapor]

Where's Rapu, she left right when Rosy got here

Cain took my core dust while sleeping

[keen vapor]

Stop stealing my core dust

[silk current]

I see

[keen vapor]

That true

[silk current]

Ty

[gaunt viper]

tho am still confused lol

[keen vapor]

I hope you enjoyed our MA service feel free to ask for it again

[keen vapor]

Splash damage is not that hard I think

I guess I got my own variant of MA copypasta but I need nitro for that novel wink

[gaunt viper]

no i mean what specifically to swap from crown and noah

the units or the cubes?

[keen vapor]

Uh, cubes

Crown with temp- wait, low level cube, only two slots, prioritize Blanc and Moran

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

[strong hull]

[gaunt viper]

i needed 8 more batteries so its at lvl 4 now so i can put a 3rd on

[keen vapor]

At least the first half is good

[swift mango]

Scarlet would be so low HP that it doesn't matter. Unless you didn't invest in Anis at all.

Centi position on the other hand, Anis could be killed if put there.

Think again.

[half grail]

…

[keen vapor]

Ok, crown gets tempering and Noah endurance or some other high level cube

[gaunt viper]

does lvl matter mainly or just defensive ones primarily cause Resil is lvl 9

[keen vapor]

what about centi RH jackal instead

[keen vapor]

Level for CP

[gaunt viper]

yeah im hurting for CP lol

[swift mango]

Why you want to protect RH so much that you put her p4 lol

In that case, sure use Centi. But not my case.

[gaunt viper]

dropped 100k for 2 teams i had before

like SBS i went all in

[keen vapor]

I think I fail to see what you see

[keen vapor]

Jesus Photoshop easier to read than ever

Bay on bottom screen....

[gaunt viper]

yeah i mean 50k swing alone from Cindy (67k CP with no OL, 7/4/7, SR5 doll) instead of SBS (117k CP with Full OL, 10/7/10, SR15 doll)

[keen vapor]

Why Cindy no OL

[gaunt viper]

i wasnt sure whether or not to

[keen vapor]

She's Pilgrim defender, where else you will use that?

Ok, Noah, Crown

Only 3 units use that gear

[gaunt viper]

yeah i OL crown just before her

[vapid lake]

OG rapunzel for ppl who don't have doro for tower ||like me ||

[keen vapor]

don't tempt me

[gaunt viper]

Besides Cindy from that comp you provided i still have 6 others to OL except for Anis who hopefully will be replaced someday

[keen vapor]

[vapid lake]

I'm running noah in my pilgrim tower because her cp lets me stay in the blue

[keen vapor]

Sorry, but you should have saved rocks

[keen vapor]

My Noah CP plummets teams

[gaunt viper]

Centi, Sanis, Biscuit 2/4, Rapunzel, Moran, Cindy, and Anis are who ive got to OL

[vapid lake]

It is time to change that

[keen vapor]

Not even Rapunzel?

[gaunt viper]

i was recommened to OL Rapu for CS

[keen vapor]

Only 8 rocks left have mercy

[gaunt viper]

Nope

[keen vapor]

I did

[gaunt viper]

what would be my OL priority of those and are there any i shouldnt OL?

[keen vapor]

Truth is

No one needs specific lines except for Summer Anis and Cindy who will want attack and ele

Summer anis will want to AVOID max ammo while Cindy will want some

Besides them we're just CP padding

[gaunt viper]

huh, okay. i wasnt sure just how much to invest into Summer anis tbh since she already need pretty high skill investment with 7/9/7 minimum

[keen vapor]

Uh no, burst needs to be 9 that's how she gets to 1 bullet

[gaunt viper]

er sorry 7/7/9

looked at it wrong 😅

[gaunt viper]

and okay ill focus on Cindy then Sanis, Rapu or Moran, then Biscuit who only needs 2 more, then Centi. I would imagine Anis doesnt really need any investment

cause i was also trying to OL anyone who stands out in content ouside of just PVP and wont get outclassed soon

[keen vapor]

Well, you either invest overloads in Rumani (SSR) or Anis(SR) but Rumani has a bit lower burst gen

Rapu has been my Naga replacement for quite a long time

[gaunt viper]

huh, noted

[gaunt viper]

see i was told PVE Crown/Naga is peak a few days ago so i went all in on them

[keen vapor]

Kinda same I'm not getting the results I wanted

[vapid lake]

Thats correct

[gaunt viper]

both at 10/10/10

[vapid lake]

Crown and naga wont leave ur campaign team for a very long time until they release some new powercreep support on one of the next half anniversaries

[keen vapor]

I don't have the resources to ten ten ten Naga

[vapid lake]

Mine just 10/10/4 becuz she doesn't burst

[keen vapor]

Raids

[gaunt viper]

i made her 10 just for raids and CP

[vapid lake]

I sacrificed raids for pvp

It's already joever for me

I missed 3% on behemoth because I decided to OL noah

[keen vapor]

Yeah... Firepower

[vapid lake]

Union raid who cares i attack a grand total of 3 times and when i wake up the next morning it's already done

Getting carried feels good

[gaunt viper]

yeah i thought going with them would be a huge gamechanger from my fully invested bunny girls but tbh it doesnt feel that much better if not a slight amount perhaps but 20-31 hard mode still wrecking me

[vapid lake]

20-31 is nihilister?

[gaunt viper]

yep

[keen vapor]

Problem is combat power I think I notice a little difference

But with SBS core damage doesn't matter

[vapid lake]

She doesn't have a core to hit so naga's advantage over the bunnies is gone in that one fight specifically

In most other situation naga+crown buff >>>> bunnies

[keen vapor]

Time for triple DPS hiiii Modernia

[gaunt viper]

that makes sense, i didnt know if core also applied to parts too

[keen vapor]

[vapid lake]

Sometimes it does sometimes it doesnt

Kraken's tentacles in AI count as core hits

Nihilister's parts dont

Sometimes the core itself is a part

Like mirror container in 32-33 and ultra AI

And once its gone no more core bonus

[keen vapor]

[gaunt viper]

also i was stacking up on resources for skills, was at 8k for Skill 1 and 2 and burst at 3k for skill 1 and 2, now at 5k and 1 k

[gaunt viper]

huh, the more you know 🤔

[keen vapor]

Cindy and Grave eat my manuals

[gaunt viper]

well cindy is still at 7/4/7 for me so that will probably eat some and Grave has none rn since shes a slighly worse crown that mainly would be used in raid. what did you lvl them too?

[keen vapor]

10/7/10 Cindy

4/4/10 grave

All according to Nikke.gg

[rich quail]

Get Nikke info from Nikke.gg
Get your pvp teams from the best @keen vapor

[gaunt viper]

huh im suprised Grave didnt need that much, i never got around to looking at her yet since i got her other than what was said about her 🤔 , and i saw Cindy is recommeneded for 10/10/10 from the spreadsheet in Discord

[rich quail]

Echo is self-proclaimed best chef

[keen vapor]

Yup, I got surprised myself as well

[gaunt viper]

well im eating what theyre cooking rn lol

[keen vapor]

Oi I recognize Keripo and Zixk labor

[vapid lake]

Cindy actually fine to jsut leave at 10/4/10 for pve, but in pvp is 10/10/10 for padding

[rich quail]

Another satisfied customer

@grizzled bone can retire now

[gaunt viper]

good to know, tyvm

[keen vapor]

Well, he's moranless

[rich quail]

Caishen?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[rich quail]

No he has Moran now

[gaunt viper]

ty for all the help that youve provided, i believe in the wisdom of your words and hope for a bright future

[keen vapor]

Oh so that's why he changed title

[rich quail]

You work with him and you don’t know?

[gaunt viper]

u cook in the same kitchen

[rich quail]

You really are the absentee father of pvp channel

[vapid lake]

[keen vapor]

I just share the wisdom of my predecessors please keep looking forward for our MA service

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/sailor-moon-meme-sailor-moon-meme-my-job-here-is-done-get-away-gif-26675272

This is @keen vapor

[keen vapor]

He never mentioned but now that I remember Moran wasn't in the grey missing Nikkes

[rich quail]

Where’s the communication, Echo?

[keen vapor]

I realized I forgot to watch more guides to inform myself better

Base crit rate for Grave is 15? so she doesn't needs Volume!

[gaunt viper]

btw i thought i didnt invest in grave at all yet but turns out i made her 4/4/7 without even remembering

[grizzled bone]

hontou?

[keen vapor]

With level 10 she gets 100% crit rate total amazing

[swift mango]

Upgrade your campaign team. 1k better is 1k faster to clear a stage.

Crown+Viper+Anis+Neon+Cindy

Scarlet+Grave+RH+Noir+Drake

Auto team

Or

Alice/M.Privaty+B.Soda+Liter+Naga/Blanc+Maiden

I think you should wishlist

Jackal, Biscuit, Centi, Rumani and hope the best.

[keen vapor]

I used N102, you used Neon

[swift mango]

N102 is kinda weak in arena even for beginners. Mica is much better. Learned it the hard way.

[quick lake]

xmas pvp units are upon us soon!

[swift mango]

Kinda had to get XAnne because I have no Rapunzel and Noah.

Revive could come in clutch sometime and it's nice to have more options for B2.

[grizzled bone]

Save your gems pvp gang winter is coming

[quick lake]

Good Clip RL winter unit

[valid fern]

too late, i already bricked my account making Cinderella beautiful and shiny.

[graceful grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/winter-winter-is-coming-snow-gif-26050640

[rich quail]

20,714 gems on my end 🫡

It’s all I got for now

[graceful grotto]

17k on my end lmao, we are so ded

[rich quail]

Anni

We empty the clips here

So we are expected to be broke bois

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-gif-19963164

[graceful grotto]

and new year banner after Xmas lol

[rich quail]

Yup

Resist the Flora urge

Don’t go tilt on sp arena

[graceful grotto]

kinda sad for flora

if only she's 20 sec cd, at least has some usage, not even worth for crown's buff at this point

[rich quail]

And not many units have true damage

[bleak latch]

how to crack this

[rich quail]

Laplace and Ein I think (that are worth pairing)

[rich quail]

With invested Rosy and more burst gen than opponent, prolly

I would do Scar/Centi/Rosie/RH/Jackal

But that’s me

[grizzled bone]

Is that a true 3RL?

Don't have calculator handy

[rich quail]

Prolly not

[graceful grotto]

let me calculate

[graceful grotto]

2.5RL

if feed prolly 2RL

rosanna being there for sniping?

cause his entire team doesn't feed jackal much aside from rosanna herself

[grizzled bone]

Sniping/burst gen on death/unlink opponent jackal

[rich quail]

Yeah to me looks like a snipe

[grizzled bone]

I would be tempted to match speed and use Cindy just to see if nuke partially goes through

[bleak latch]

i'll try scarlet fast comp next reset then

scarlet/noah/rosana?/rapunzel/jackal

[grizzled bone]

Ein would be interesting too

[rich quail]

if u can hit scar b3 before Noah at b2 u good

[bleak latch]

i've tried copied his comp and failed miserable on last one

[rich quail]

What exactly happened?

[bleak latch]

it's seem his team able to burst before me just split second

so his emilia nuke shot first

[graceful grotto]

you're playing the stalling game?

[bleak latch]

just experiments

[rich quail]

If u have Cindy she can take one of Rosie’s snipes with clone iirc

[bleak latch]

i do have her but cindy just slow down the burst so much

but not hurt to try

[rich quail]

Well, it has to be timed

[graceful grotto]

if it's a 2/2.5 RL emilia, how many RL u need to delay block emilia with noah?

[bleak latch]

since he has rosana jackal is useless right?

[rich quail]

Either before or after noah’s shield

[graceful grotto]

3/4RL?

[grizzled bone]

Can't really stall too much with Emilia delayed nuke

[rich quail]

No, Jackal helps Rosie keep concealment

If linked

[bleak latch]

i think i could stall nuke if noise able to use her b1 but that just theory and this is different comp

[rich quail]

True dat

Better to hit fast then

[bleak latch]

emilia w/o RH buff should be not hurt much right

Emilia with no atk buff should be around 25/30 million at most

i can easily tank that i think

[grizzled bone]

[bleak latch]

risky move ik

[grizzled bone]

What's Noah invulnerable time again?

[quick lake]

3s iirc

[bleak latch]

3sec

just hope noise able to burst first so she/emilia can survived rosana snipe

[quick lake]

Can probably check when ur Noah invuln starts

[bleak latch]

if burst too slow rosana snipe
if too early noah invul will eat nuke

https://tenor.com/view/disappointed-cat-upset-annoyed-perturbed-gif-2678264647403754706

[quick lake]

Emi is a pain

[grizzled bone]

2rl SSakura

[bleak latch]

i'm broke on SSakura event and didn't pull her

[bleak latch]

but ig i'll try noise/blanc/scarlet bs/rapunzel/jackal first see if it work

[grizzled bone]

Noise-your choice of sacrifice-Cindy-Ros-Centi

Like Mast

[chilly furnace]

U can try scar blanc rh noir jackal

[grizzled bone]

Can't snipe what's not there. Make 2rl Cindy team
Noah-Centi-Cindy-Rumani-Anis

record your attacks whatever you try

[vapid lake]

My main rival change his timing of attack

Last night he snipe while i was sleeping and today he snipe in the middle of the day during work

He starting to get cheeky

[loud sonnet]

[raven plover]

[quick lake]

1/3 of pvp video time is just black loading screens

SU plz optimise

[hollow eagle]

enemy jackal has weird link?

Noah is not linked at all, and SAnis is not being obliterated by scar S2

[loud sonnet]

If scarlet is on pos1 i wouldn't bother trying cause im pretty sure im gonna lose

[long chasm]

Can anywone shared deck that counter blanc sanis rh biscuit jackal?

For rookie arena

Any best deff for rookie arena?
I have all nikke so i can use any team

[vapid lake]

Scar centi RH anis/rumani jackal
U just burst first and kill everyone with scar and u win, that is if sanis don't kill herself on jackal p5 link

His team slow + a lot of feed

[long chasm]

Btw sanis survive scarlet ult with rh buff

Only half hp

[mighty haven]

[swift mango]

Was it 2RL and Scarlet Slash before Blanc?

If it's not, chance are Blanc just heal S.Anis back so you see half hp.

[swift mango]

You could stall this if your healing stall team is invested enough. As Emilia won't be able to nuke anything with this line up unless investment, CP or level gap is too big.

If low investment on stalling, can just try Blanc+S.Anis...

Or just 2RL Cindy to wipe Emilia...

[long chasm]

He change his team again

Sometime it rh sometime it noise

[tropic summit]

it's rookie arena so you could technically ignore him, unless it's convinient for you testing your lineups

the ranking rewards matter so little you can safely just hit the next available easy target

[glad meteor]

Usually when I try indom sanis against noah noise sanis biscuit rapunzel I lose

[long chasm]

I can , but he always hit me 😂 so always down rank to 5-8

And he always attack at 1 hour or 30min before reset 🤦🏻

[crystal flicker]

how even you lose with that line up (unless deficit/mirror)

[mighty haven]

Who will lose their mind first

[swift mango]

I think the difference between rank 1 and rank 100 isn't even 10% lol

[swift mango]

How was it? Did you both end up with 1 HP at the end?

Did you win?

[wheat heart]

Need help with consistantly beating Scarlet / Centi / Rosanna / Noir / Jackal. His Rosanna sometimes nukes my noah before I can burst.

[long chasm]

I lose because he blanc 1-2sec late

Both scarlet and sanis left with 1hp

[long chasm]

I use noah biscuit rapunzel sbs centi

[umbral crown]

2 RL Noah

[wheat heart]

does biscuit prevent the nuke

[long chasm]

No

[wheat heart]

ok so rapunzel just brings back noah then

[wheat heart]

i'll give 2RL noah/cindy a try

[umbral crown]

si

[swift mango]

Yes if you put Noah at p1 and she triggered Biscuit by being Normal attacked

[spring ore]

I feel I can win this, but idk... it's over 80 levels up and that Scarlet is scary

Any advice?

[swift mango]

I would use biscuit instead of Noise...

Your noise would likely die so it's better to help Noah tank the normal attack.

And burst 1 with RH for faster kill

[trail lantern]

Can i use blanc in pvp team without noir or would i neee another b2, and what would be good team examples?

[spring ore]

It underlevels me a severe amount, my biscuit is just 1 star LMB, she has the abilities tho, and decent gear

[swift mango]

Blanc can be used in Arena without Noir. They don't need each other there.

[swift mango]

Yeah just put Noah+biscuit+RH should, be fine. So long as your CP/their > 0.846.

[trail lantern]

But I'd need another b2 then?

[swift mango]

Arena fights usually only last 1 burst.

[trail lantern]

Ah okay thanks

[umbral crown]

@polar echo go beat weij or villian privaty, only one who would gem is weij

Wanna see your c1 teams

[twilit bay]

How do I beat
Noise/Noah/SAnis/Biscuit/Jackal
I've tried Blanc/ Emilia/ RH/ Biscuit/ Jackal, but I end up losing to Jackal and Noah at the end

[swift mango]

Did Emilia get the indom from Blanc and stand still the end?

[twilit bay]

Yes

Probably should have mentioned, but there is a 15 level difference. No penalty

[swift mango]

I guess you might want to invest more to Emilia. Or they out level, out invested you lots.

You could use a stall comp to out stall them though. S.Anis isn't very strong without buff so Noise+Blanc+could be able to out stall them lol.

[tawny vine]

#4 in our bracket is a gigachad turns on the game every couple of days - presses auto and cp diffs c1-c3

[twilit bay]

Emilia has max burst, >20% atk, and 25% cs

only an SR 5 doll though

[swift mango]

Uhm did your RH died before burst? Just ask in the off chance.

[twilit bay]

Nope, right after

[umbral crown]

🎈

[swift mango]

Could you show the match up screenshot, just for reference? Thanks.

[twilit bay]

Sure, give me a minute

Oh shit, wrong team

Here

[swift mango]

One more question. Did Emilia nuke did damage to their team?

Thanks

[twilit bay]

Yep, Sanis, Noise and Biscuit died to the Nuke

[swift mango]

I guess their Jackal, and Noah triggered Biscuit and just too tanky to be killed in 2 seconds.

You should be able to beat them in 2 level I guess

[twilit bay]

Hopefully

[coarse lake]

If rh has high ele

Do shooting range trick

Have rh kill biscuit before emi nuke hits

[twilit bay]

RH has like 70% ele, I'll try later

[swift mango]

I remember Merry showed that a PvE fight lock RH to p1, not p5?

[coarse lake]

P1 lock is enemy RH against you

P5 is your RH Against defending

Just locks to whatever a sniper's typically initial target is

[swift mango]

Guess I will try it tomorrow because I doubt it.

Should have happened to me at least once right? XD

[coarse lake]

No point in shooting range if your attacking rh locks to p1

[swift mango]

Now what do you mean lol?

[coarse lake]

If that's how it works on atk there would be no reason to use it

Since you just use any other weapon type

[swift mango]

Now you lost me. Does it work or nah?

[coarse lake]

Yes it locks on to p5 when attacking as rh

[swift mango]

Then I will go try it later and post result lol

[coarse lake]

Record vid too

[swift mango]

Or is there something to stop it from happening?

Lol

I remember Merry said any PvE fight would do?

Or you mean it only work after shooting range?

[coarse lake]

I know shooting range and interception mock work

Others unsure

I call it shooting range trick bc that was the first known cause

Good chance any pve causes it yeah

[swift mango]

Does it work against taunt or taunt override it?

[coarse lake]

Ignores taunt

[stone warren]

Can I get a recommendation for a sp def with my nikkes? Thanks a ton 🙏

[coarse lake]

Inb4 the dude's biscuit is linked instead of Sanis

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

@keen vapor will cook you teams

[stone warren]

Got dog piled by 3 different players lol

[umbral crown]

oh really?

your defense losing too much? whats your current one

[polar echo]

nah, I'm fine and peaceful at p5, you'll see by yourself next week if reshuffling favors you :p

[umbral crown]

wanna get him

[polar echo]

you can't

[umbral crown]

wonder if weij s defense are ebtter than before

[umbral crown]

i can

you can always trust your waifus

[umbral crown]

they look better

he not using rosanna

[stone warren]

My current def, it was going great at first but got wrecked after the season refreshed. Might be they found out how to counter the lineup, been trying to switch few nikkes around but not working

[umbral crown]

hmm X.Anne p2 dies and you are done, Team 2 have 2 SGs so thats scar jack

team 3 noah+biscuit

[stone warren]

sorry what do you mean by "Team 2 have 2 SGs so thats scar jack"

[umbral crown]

his red hood is kinda well built, she resistes my rosanna nuke

[umbral crown]

S.Anis and Maiden are Shotguns so they feed a lot scar jackal teams

[stone warren]

Do you think i should swap out maiden?

[umbral crown]

of course, will check your box in some minutes

[stone warren]

thanks man, appreciate it a lot

[umbral crown]

whats your rosanna investment? laplace+?

[stone warren]

Rosanna full OL gear with 7/10/10
Lapplace not fully OL gear with 4/7/7

[umbral crown]

how much atk from OL?

[tropic summit]

well that's petty, i'd just ignore as it's rookie anyhow, up to you

[umbral crown]

for rosanna?

[umbral crown]

lapalce with treasure?

[tropic summit]

so shooting range trick works on not just p1 but snipers for hitting p5 and ignore taunt?

[umbral crown]

she just have 1 atk line but next time crop the pic, your profuile of FB appears there

[stone warren]

Oh crap, i totally forgot. thanks for reminding 😥

[umbral crown]

any time

[swift mango]

Is this Rookie? Could you try replacing Jackal with Crown in the Noah team?

---

If you try shooting range trick maybe you could add Sugar to team 2 instead of Jackal lol? Or you could try bursting with RH instead.

[stone warren]

Been trying to roll att options but luck is not on my side.

[umbral crown]

hehe happens most of the time, your rosanna have ele so its good against emilia but might not be able to 1 shot other units

[twilit bay]

It is Rookie.
Crown, Biscuit, Emilia, RH, Jackal?

Was thinking about Bursting with RH after learning about the shooting range trick

[swift mango]

I mean replacing Jackal with Crown not Noah. And yeah bursting with RH if hitting p5 should end them quick

[stone warren]

Yeah I realised that too, been watching some of the arena matches, the opponent nikke always happened to survive with 10% hp.

Hopefully i got more module and roll more att option on other gear

[umbral crown]

you would need at least 30% atk but the recommended since people are getting SR15 dolls is to go for 40%

[stone warren]

my doll is currently at level 11, been trying to max it to level 15 too

[twilit bay]

I'll try these out. Thanks for all the help.

[umbral crown]

SP Defense
Scarlet/Maiden/Rosanna/X.Anne/Jackal
Noah/Noise/S.Anis/Biscuit/Laplace+
Blanc/Emilia/Red Hood/Centi/Noir

[umbral crown]

for rosanna?

[stone warren]

yeah

[umbral crown]

nice

max doll on her feels nice

[coarse lake]

it locks SRs on to their initial targeting

[stone warren]

been down on luck recently so I can only do with what I can

[umbral crown]

yep

thats the way

[stone warren]

Thanks for the build, will update here again for the results

[swift mango]

Maybe equip vigor on Emilia so Blanc could hit RH because I doubt it would hit RH if it already hit Emilia when they both link with Jackal... Or replacing Emilia with Rumani, centi...

[tropic summit]

uh that's interesting, can snipe p5 on elemental weakness 🤔

do they lose aggro when the enemy nikke reloads/cover or literally stuck on p5?

[swift mango]

Do Alice work too or you need RH?

[coarse lake]

I think it works on alice as well, but unsure

[coarse lake]

afaik aggro is lost when the p5 unit dies, although reloading might also cause aggro switch, not sure on that

[tropic summit]

every day a new revelation on un-unintented features

[swift mango]

Dude tried sleeping 3 hours later today for nothing 😂 ... I still had one hit to hit him back anyway if he succeeded. Finally my def work against the dude after more than a month thanks to 301 boost lol. He was 308 though so not like I gap him on level.

Hope it holds.

[umbral crown]

blood cooking

[swift mango]

This guy is currently r1 in rookie because the whale just can't beat his 2RL Scarlet+Blanc lol... My whale really need to invest more in Arena.

[weak kiln]

anyone cooking? need sp teams

[long chasm]

Daamn🗿🗿

[silver prism]

I am once again coming to ask for arena defense/sp defense teams Here are the current wives

[upper grove]

Now I'm being tag teamed by 2 Koreans who attack me at different times for 2nd and 3rd place. I can attack and win against them but not defend

[tropic summit]

it's quite normal, unless lacking on nikke selection and/or knowledge, offense is easier than defense

[upper grove]

Yeah they never attack each other sadly

[tropic summit]

just get 2nd for the longest amount of time you can, worst case scenario you're only going to miss on 300gems

season refresh also coming, maybe you won't see them anymore

keep in mind arena is essentially silly once everyone has got enough nikke to counter each others, because it becomes a puzzle game where you gotta learn people playing patterns and save up your tries to maximize on retention of a rank

one of the ugliest mechanics i've ever seen, on that front

[grizzled bone]

PvP for the most part is a solved game mode. A lot of us are waiting for CA

[tropic summit]

but SU is too busy making castlevania-like minigames

can't spare an intern for actual improvements

[bleak latch]

noise superior

seem like rosana debuff not working somehow

my noise/jackal still link till end

[twilit bay]

Thanks, quite close though

[keen vapor]

It works

[coarse egret]

Need help beating 2RL scarlet, any suggestions?

[tropic summit]

isn't the answer usually 2RL noah + emilia?

[bleak latch]

Noah/Biscuit/Emilia/RH/Jackal

[tropic summit]

those lineups are becoming so much the norm it's becoming meaningless running it on def

[coarse egret]

Thanks! Going to try it tomorrow near reset

[fast relic]

I finally pulled Jackal. How should I situate her into my defense teams?

Just replace Tia?

[tropic summit]

if team 1 and team 2 are 3RL, team 3 badly needs burst gen

do you've any other carry pvp nikke for team 3? else might aswell use her for either s.anis or cindy

[spare whale]

Would love some advice for nikke defense. Thank you.

[tropic summit]

old notes of mine, you can go for these high win rate teams

[spare whale]

ok

[tropic summit]

if you lack any of the nikke to make those teams, start sharing what you get with these and we can in case fill in

[spare whale]

I have them all built

[tropic summit]

alrighto, check your CP and see how it goes

[spare whale]

Will do, thank you

[tropic summit]

no worries

[fast relic]

1+2 are 3RL. I don't have any other pvp carry besides QEQ, if she counts?

Well aware that 3 is just CP bloat nonsense

[tropic summit]

yeah it looks like that, also would feed hard a scarlet - jackal

QEQ would be a better option but not worth it, might aswell make team 1 or team 2 stronger

[fast relic]

That's what I was assuming. Cindy team to 2.5rl worthwhile?

If possible, haven't check a calc yet

[tropic summit]

hmm

to be fair there's another thing you should correct, noah should be either p1 or p5

or you'll risk giving the enemy an extra RL speed

as noah will taunt attacks on p4, which will splash and hit 3 instead of usual 2

either way you're running on 3RL yeah

maybe do noah noise cindy noir tia

in that order

[coarse lake]

noah vs noise taunt depends on your cs on each

[tropic summit]

also this, as they'll both want to taunt

[fast relic]

Noise would taunt P2 then before Noah no

[tropic summit]

noah taunts during autos during burst iirc

[fast relic]

What is cs in this case

[coarse lake]

depends on charge speed

[fast relic]

Charge speed?

Noah has 1 charge speed line

Noise 0

[coarse lake]

noise will taunt

noise might taunt no matter where she is, your best chance is noah p1 noise p5

least likely for noise to taunt, but even if she does it's ok

[fast relic]

Noise taunts after 1 basic

This is what I am trying at the moment

[upper grove]

Yeah that's so annoying because of the weird schedules they have

[coarse lake]

if noise is linked you're fine

[fast relic]

Linked being 2nd highest attack in this case?

Just got jackal not totally familiar with the mechanics

[tropic summit]

yeah, hence sometimes it's just simpler getting those 300 gems less but not wasting effort and time learning schedules/patterns

in my case if it ever gets bothersome with more than 1 enemy doing it to me, i'll just sit on 4th and screw it

[upper grove]

I'll do the same tbh. Not worth spending gems when new years is coming and I still have to pull RH and SBS

[coarse lake]

1st or 2nd highest atk accounting for atk OLs

[tropic summit]

indeed, smart approach

you can still try poking at them, but do it without having to get an headache for it imo

[coarse lake]

if your cindy atk is low enough, it would be noise + noir most likely

[fast relic]

Noise is ~4k attack from being linked in that team. If I OL her gloves I can probably get her there

[upper grove]

They hit me during my offline time when I'm asleep

[tropic summit]

ratting strats

[upper grove]

Def not worth getting up for that

I mean I won when they bother to hit me 1 min before reset

[fast relic]

Ooooh do OL lines not display on the profile

[coarse lake]

yeah they don't

gotta calc that in yourself

[fast relic]

Okay yeah just OL noise gloves and rerolled an attack line we're good now

[sinful copper]

What beats this team?

[bleak latch]

scarlet being there for emotional support

[tropic summit]

scarlet off dps, that's a new one

probably CP padding it

[worthy knoll]

Just a warning, it seems Noah wouldn't taunt normal attacks by attract burst at that position unless she full charging the target

[tropic summit]

so noise also taunting is not the issue there

[worthy knoll]

It means if your opponent mirrors your team, but Scarlet instead of Cindy, noah will block Scar slash, but Scar after burst normal will normal attack P1-P5 instead of hitting Noah who should be taunting her with attract

That is unless Noah taunts her with her S2, but is less likely until P1 goes down

Same with attacking SGs, they will ignore P5 Noah's burst taunt and hit P1-P5 order unless they get taunted by P5 Noah S2

[tropic summit]

yet another intended feature to keep track of I guess

[worthy knoll]

Well its not an intended feature but more like a.. bug

[tropic summit]

yeah, that was my point

[worthy knoll]

Bug since Game Launch.. no make it since Arena Launch

That hasn't been fixed

[tropic summit]

intern-kun got fired before he could fix it

[worthy knoll]

[tropic summit]

well, i bet they don't wanna mess with that code anyway, god knows what kind of other ghosts live in there

[worthy knoll]

Well I just learned it recently too

It was Kara who mentioned it

Its usually not noticeable since most teams place Noah at P1

Its rare to see a P5 Noah nowadays

[loud sonnet]

He change his team again XD

[silver prism]

Bump for this cuz no answer yet :<

[tropic summit]

strange team at that, might be tilting

[loud sonnet]

The only way i can bully that guy who sits on C1 since reshuffle

Most of his team are just cp padding

[swift mango]

@coarse lake

Apparently RH does hit p5 but overriding taunt was a lie. As you could see in this record. First hit p5, 2nd hit got taunt to p1 Noah. Burst hit p1.

[tropic summit]

sadge

[tropic summit]

oh nice one for testing it

[tawny vine]

mission failed successfully

[swift mango]

Gonna try p3 RH next.

[tropic summit]

the suicide on scarlet

[coarse lake]

wot

looks like your rh ended up hitting p2?

[swift mango]

You could see the burst hitting Noah. Can't mistake that fat line

[coarse lake]

hmm... regardless if p1 or p2 (might look p2 bc of mobile dimensions), it's not supposed to work like that, yeah I do wonder if direct taunting still works?

could also somehow be a mobile thing

[trail inlet]

nikke pvp devs trying to make pvp work

[tropic summit]

no, the only ones who cared probably already left long time ago

[coarse lake]

https://youtu.be/TJJYZbS08Nw
here's an example of it working, said person didn't even do shooting range, just logged in and did the fight (maybe it causes same effect)

I would test out the p3 thing, could be that shooting range trick only bypasses attract and not debuff taunt

but I swear this not working would have been found out long ago, bc ppl ran p2 rh very often

could also be mobile

oh

[copper creek]

basically my thoughts on pvp in this game at this point

[coarse lake]

yeah it's the direct taunt still working

somehow I just never realized, my bad

[copper creek]

s2 taunt works, burst taunt doesn't

[coarse lake]

so you need to keep rh in p3

[tropic summit]

e.g. as long as she doesn't get splash dmg (during burst) from noah, the workaround does its thing

[copper creek]

yea

[swift mango]

It does ignore AoE taunt
@coarse lake

[tropic summit]

hmm fascinating, so you can Theoretically snipe p5, then it will move on as regular targeting

[copper creek]

as usual

[tawny vine]

i feel like it's a lot of hoops to jump through for them to just attack with rock paper scissors again

[copper creek]

devs fix a problem
new patch/content comes, and the problem comes back again

[coarse lake]

just have a high ele rh

so off-burst rh can finish off p5 biscuit

[copper creek]

definitely intended

[coarse lake]

you really only use it to kill p5 biscuit anyway

[tropic summit]

p5 now has an extra weakness of sort then

especially if electro element

[swift mango]

That only happens in out investment. Doesn't help vs higher level, really what common problem in arena.

You want to burst with RH.

Or it helps nothing

[tropic summit]

supposedly alice does the same right?

[copper creek]

yes

[tropic summit]

e.g. you can abuse any nikke in p5 that is weak to fire

well it adds some options

although it downright feels like cheating

[spare whale]

Youre awesome, got him raging again. Dude will not stop till he beats me lol

[worthy knoll]

Coz you placed RH on P2, the full charge taunt of Noah works

[swift mango]

Well, we already pass that phase xD

[coarse lake]

if you have to burst with rh then ig you need to do noah biscuit

[tropic summit]

he's gonna need to learn your team counters, might take him a while or maybe he's gonna find out soon, but for now you'll be ok

[spare whale]

He’ll get it done by tonight

[swift mango]

Noah biscuit, biscuit will just die vs level gap.

Unless opponent isn't using Noah it won't help.

[tropic summit]

yeah but holy crap 4 attempts, dude is gem trigger free

[spare whale]

But its great he is spending gems again. Think he has spent about 5k right now

[worthy knoll]

Noah burst taunt stupidly doesn't work for defending team

[spare whale]

4 is nothing he spent 2.3k gems one session lol

[worthy knoll]

Well prolly all burst taunt that are attract