pvp-arena

[polar echo]

Took a few gems but finally got though his comp

[umbral crown]

did you remember the teams or have a video?

[polar echo]

You know you can just click on ranking a see if we are on the same server :p

[umbral crown]

this is an old pic but its the same limbo boi

[polar echo]

Oh, I can tell you then, that's from the previous reshuffle

[umbral crown]

we are not since pelg got isekaied like 2 shuffles ago

i was wil pelg for like 2 shuffles and he was gaining cp fast

[polar echo]

But yeah those are the guys indeed

[umbral crown]

pelg was my worthy rival haha

iw as with limbo boi for a good time, i still have him on rookie

[polar echo]

if you are unlucky we'll get put on the same pool next season :p

[umbral crown]

would be interesting

i always go for C1

whats the total cp of pelg?

[polar echo]

We hover a little over one mill for the top 6

[umbral crown]

waos

can you show me your top 10 there?

i have a new rival since the old quit which is 321 with 1.2m

[polar echo]

C1 is a whale, no one has been able to beat them in the last like 6 months

[umbral crown]

total cp

[umbral crown]

ohhh, C2 and C3 were with me in SP

now just rookie, i kill them x2 daily

weij at C2 and villian C3. with villian we were since we started together fighting in diamond till challenger

[umbral crown]

check, their preferences have not changed since that time

Look at them

And heres my besto rival at c2

[inland coral]

Having trouble with special arena so I was hoping to get some tips on what teams I should use

[tropic summit]

nay or yay? won, worked out

i'm skipping their emilia team, these 2 look easier

[umbral crown]

wish i could see the teams of your C1, i could handle it

[polar echo]

lol, no you can't :p I'll show you their rookie one

[umbral crown]

please and thanks

[umbral crown]

if i can handle my c2 with almost 40 level gap. maybe yours could be the same

[polar echo]

need to wait for reset actually, gap is over 200 points right now
and it's not because of CP/lvl that they are imba, it's that most of their units are at high core and hyper invested

they maxed core cindy on day one

[umbral crown]

waos,a real whale

whats his cp and sync in rookie

you could check that

[umbral crown]

352

that would be really hard

but with 301 boost i could try

[polar echo]

told ya, I assume we are around the same lvl and I can't win a single round against them

[umbral crown]

i trust my pvp investment

im 287

[polar echo]

Oh, well, then just give up :p (305)

[umbral crown]

but if you have the chance ot beat weij or villian try to check his teams

and take ss

the boi looks like its pve based

but what would stop me is the level gap not the cp

[tropic summit]

you're lacking a bit in batteries, don't have centi/drake/pepper/jackal/rumani around i suppose?

[inland coral]

Unfortunately yes

[tropic summit]

hmm

[tropic summit]

start with this, wishlist and try to find asap centi, jackal, rumani

less good (in terms of burst gen) but still decent: pepper and drake

team 1 is pretty much solid, minus anis as she's filling for your lack of a 2nd battery, team 2 badly could use jackal and centi, team 3 can't find anything atm meta wise, go for CP

[inland coral]

Ok thank you

[keen vapor]

Sinon

[upper grove]

Yesterday I wasn't attacked at all

[tropic summit]

imagine releasing an actual good game with that franchise

[upper grove]

Now he hit me literally 1 min before reset

[tropic summit]

start of season, wants to get you to waste gems early, although he needs to defend against you twice and win twice for that

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

nope, i m nott he kinda to give up

[misty finch]

Is it still recommended to get laplace+ for PvP

[umbral crown]

for a 352 1.3m is low, so there is always a chance

[umbral crown]

si

[tropic summit]

good for tower, decent as an earth B3, good for pvp, is a blondie cutie

if you don't have RH/SBS/Scarlet she can be good for campaign progress aswell

any tips to beat this in rookie? (without emilia)

nvm solved

[umbral crown]

@keen vapor do you think i will be reunited with C2,C3 and C6?

[keen vapor]

I wonder

[mortal valley]

please, this team get wipe easily, do you have some tips ?

team 1 and 3

[grizzled bone]

your only B1 is unprotected. Put in P4

[mortal valley]

like this then

[grizzled bone]

oui

[mortal valley]

thanks

[tropic summit]

also you might want to give a bit more burst gen on cindy's team

[grizzled bone]

that cinderella team won't burst though

[tropic summit]

rotate perhaps noah from the other team to cindy, and put extra clip SGs if you got any spare

[mortal valley]

indeed

[tropic summit]

scarlet team is not doing too bad, but slower than 3RL might get you bursted before you burst

although as long as blanc lands her indom on scarlet you might be fine on the trade off

[mortal valley]

oh, where i can find this excel ?

[tropic summit]

it's pinned

[mortal valley]

thanks

[umbral crown]

they would be happy but not not c2 and c3, i buly them daily in rookie

[grizzled bone]

PvP Deficit Formula

Formula:
1 - (Lower CP team / Higher CP team)
Use chart below to find out deficit, stat penalty starts at 15.41%.
Credits: @opaque yacht

<@&946725432554836008> please pin

[opaque yacht]

hi

[ancient kayak]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-brain-monkey-gif-11098413

[swift mango]

When you hit 301 they would hit 361-381 ayyy

[tawny vine]

two kinds of unions in sp

[coarse lake]

had a feeling it means that, but had to double check

[umbral crown]

not 381 that fast

[swift mango]

We all know Bundas wins in this game.

[umbral crown]

but we can always find a way to win, blood

always trust your waifus

[swift mango]

Nah if my whale open his wallet and get 21+ level more I would just stop hitting him entirely.

But I'm sure you could go for it if you try hard enough, until the difference becomes 80+

[umbral crown]

never give up, always trust your pvp investments

i just feel the boi with 1.3m have pve teams in defense or just people who has not tried hard enough

but thats just me thinking

[tawny vine]

if it's any reference currently 310 at 1.1m and probably 4-5 i think don't have OLs atm - but it's 3 pvp teams

but tbh if i went auto with pve it would only go up to 1.2m

[tropic summit]

this feels familiar

almost as if it's happening right in my bracket

[tropic summit]

you're awfully optimistic

[grizzled bone]

sorry for ping Aku

[vapid lake]

i got attacked 1 minute before reset and while i was sleeping too

mfs

[opaque yacht]

no worries

[tropic summit]

but it looks like nothing happened

you probably slept even better

[vapid lake]

but they're attacking me every day so sooner or later they'll figure out how to beat my defense

i need to gap them even more

more OLs

[tropic summit]

that's a huge level gap between the two 🤔

290 and 347, what happened there

[vapid lake]

the marci guy is at ch34 while the doro guy is still stuck at 28-40 crystal chamber

and i already killed behemoth

the gap will grow with time

[quick sparrow]

damn must be nice to be in arena with low power

[tropic summit]

does it change anything having centi on 18% CS? 🤔

[tawny vine]

everyone's super casual in my bracket yeah

[umbral crown]

yes, we all should be this way

[quick sparrow]

like i'm stuck in diamond 4 wit 1253274cp XD

[tawny vine]

what sync is challenger in your bracket? sub 300?

[tawny vine]

oh tbf they have like 200 lvls above my bracket lol so i guess it's normal power is higher

[quick sparrow]

the highest guy nikkes are like 512

[vapid lake]

The gap between c1 and c2 is huge so #1 is a whale

The rest are campaign diff probably

[tropic summit]

dejavu

[iron valley]

i did a big pull yesterday and got quite a bit of new units. can you guys help me with some new Rokie Arena and SP Arena teams?

my current teams are:

RA: Blanc, Red Hood, S Anis, Biscuit, Jackal (207,440 CP)

SP 1: Noise, S Rosanna, Jackal, Rei, Sugar (158,539 CP)
SP 2: Blanc, Red Hood, B Soda, Biscuit, Centi (190,705 CP)
SP 3: Crown, Pepper, Privaty, Anis, Laplace (198,555 CP)

[quick sparrow]

my account date from the csm collab so its normal i took a one year break after it befor starting again at red ash so yeah i wont have lots of chance to catch up XD

[tropic summit]

quite bricked

[tawny vine]

ah that would do it yeah - our bracket only started in april

[quick sparrow]

but i have catched up with the guy on my server who's top 1 on every tower/hard progress so at least i can fight there

[vapid lake]

U will never catch up unless u are a poseidon buying out the shop every 2 weeks and even then probably an entire year to catch up

[tawny vine]

tbh if you like pvp it's probably more fun in diamond anyway

[quick sparrow]

XDDD

[tawny vine]

challenger is either you're afk or just fighting the same ppl over and over

[vapid lake]

Afk is better

[quick sparrow]

it's almost afk anyway

[normal tinsel]

I just pick whoever is on top, nothing personal

[vapid lake]

Truce with people in this channel never attack each other

[quick sparrow]

if it's a friendly fight it's fiine

[loud sonnet]

I saw someone who does this

Then flip

[frozen mist]

i eneded up down to #5 when i got on XD you were the only one that attacked lul

[normal tinsel]

I only attacked you until AAAAAAAH was at the top and then I attacked them, I guess people gained around you

[keen vapor]

2 people in the same bracket

[umbral crown]

the dream

[hexed zephyr]

Hey guys. Was looking for some PvP suggestions. With cinder joining I was thinking of changing my 3 teams to this atm mainly just based on tier lists. Would yall change any Nikke around or positions or maybe use some others that I have benched like scarlet, pepper, etc? (I benched scarlet since I still can’t seem to get ol gear for her but I have gear for sbs, Alice, cinder and sAnis). Ps: don’t have biscuit, rh. Any tips?

(Teams shown at top of pics if you full screen them)

I wish discord didn’t change how they showed pics smh

[coarse lake]

I've forgotten how good the mass pic posting was

used to this garbage system now

I got a browser extension that pops out the full pic when I hover over, so it's not that bad

very useful

[hexed zephyr]

Interesting. Too bad I’m mostly on discord on iPhone so doubt there’s anything for this for me xD

[swift mango]

Hmm

Noah+Noise(Noah has less Charge speed than Noise)+SbS+Biscuit+Tia (3rl)

Scarlet+Blanc+Liter+Anis+Noir. (3.5RL)

Mordenia+Crown+Naga+Rossana+Cindy (could maybe burst after Mordenia and crown ded or win with Auto attack) maybe 10 RL normally lol

Note: RL is speed of team bursting, lower is faster.

[grizzled bone]

you use discord on browser or does the extension apply to app?

[coarse lake]

oh I use browser yeah

I like being able to click links and it being in the same window

really annoying going between app and browser when doing sheet calcs for example

[hexed zephyr]

@swift mango @tropic summit hey there. any thoughts on this?

[tawny vine]

the whale in my bracket decided to open their game today and these are his teams silence broken

[swift mango]

I think you did use the Burst calculator here to get 3RL. So you are pretty competent for building already.

But mind your investment, sometime you may better off with 4RL team if it had much higher power.

Your team 1 for example, while reaching 3RL could just be wipe with normal attacks by a 200k team.

You have Cindy as new unit I guess but she needed to be invested in first.

[iron valley]

i didn't make them myself. i was helped by someone in this chat

[swift mango]

Sorry but Cindy team won't burst.

[hexed zephyr]

Oh? Thought sAnis and RL units have good burst gen no? What 2 (or 3) teams would you recommend then?

[swift mango]

Your investment is mostly PvE. Your arena units are very low on power.

I would just make 2 3RL team or even only one and flex the rest.

[tawny vine]

cindy/blanc/moran have negligable burst gen

[iron valley]

i know. i stopped investing as i knew i would do a big pull and the teams would need to be rebuilt. reinvesting is not a problem right now. i just need some new updated teams so i will know what to invest into

[tawny vine]

you can use the burst gen link from #pvp-arena message to check for yourself

[swift mango]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1JUiiuHysG3vlWRPVx_wT6zUwkc5Ob9n8G0azCbuwlA8/htmlview#

@hexed zephyr

@iron valley

Try this to calculate your team burst speed. Try to get 3RL team for proper team. Or 4rl if flex, or just pure auto attack lol.

[hexed zephyr]

By pure aa do u mean just highest power or something else?

[potent ermine]

I guess noise CP increase kinda just screwed them all over

[iron valley]

ok. one question then. based on my nikkes, what are some nikke combination/synergies that i should keep in mind?

[swift mango]

Yes, if you team can't reach 4rl, chanca are, your only way to win is by auto attacking thanks to CP advantage.

[hexed zephyr]

Kk i’ll check out the Calculator thing in a bit and repost some teams then I guess

[swift mango]

B3 (lower HP) + Blanc +B3(higher HP) or just use other b1-2 units that has higher hp + Jackal.

P1(defender)+ Biscuit+ P5(defender)

Noise and other HP buffer could increase Cindy damage

[iron valley]

thank you

[swift mango]

For Cindy. She has weird target skip if putting at p1 and her decoy can increase enemies RL Regen so adon't put her in p1 unless you know what you are doing. And 2 only if you had to.

She also very tanky so could easy tank in p5 against shot gun.

[vapid lake]

my main rival can't beat me anymore i've managed to out cp gap him

i hope he doesn't come here and learn how to pvp

[swift mango]

Auto attack I mean normal attack lol

[potent ermine]

it was me

[hexed zephyr]

Kk. I took it as that anyways but thanks for confirming

[vapid lake]

that 70% ele 15% cs 22% def noah paying off

11 lines OL

[potent ermine]

is it

[vapid lake]

my noah has higher cp than sbs

#pvp-arena message

[hexed zephyr]

@swift mango btw do you know if there’s any guide for sAnis out there that show many teams for her? Ik she’s super meta so was just checking before I start doing the burst calc teams sorta randomly (since I don’t have biscuit and that was the only teams i was finding xD)

[swift mango]

You could find arena guides in this chat's pinned comments.

But S.Anis is often goes with Noah or Biscuit+Moran. She need s3 lv9 or you had to bring Privaty to buff her.

Blanc should also work keeping A.Anis alive

[hexed zephyr]

her burst needs to be lv 9? let me see what i have her at rn

4/4/5 is what i got rn

[keen vapor]

Awesome Anis

[keen vapor]

Summer Anis yes

[hexed zephyr]

ya

[swift mango]

ASS Anis!!

[keen vapor]

[vapid lake]

Almost there

Couple more days

[umbral crown]

open the selection box

[vapid lake]

Need about 100 more burst manuals for lv9

I open when i get them

[umbral crown]

[vapid lake]

210+243

[umbral crown]

imagine waiting to do 2 levels at once

[vapid lake]

I mean sanis is unusuable alone until burst is lv 9

[hexed zephyr]

@swift mango @keen vapor this is what i came up with. thoughts on what teams to use?

ps: also have scarlet (only 1 ol gear is the problem for months more minimum is my guess. cinder, sAnis, sbs, alice all have 4 ol), moran, rosanna, ein (3 ol), quency (3 ol), rei (3 ol), etc

(dont have biscuit/Anne, rh/emilia)

[umbral crown]

she still has use

[vapid lake]

I will not use her until she can be used alone

[umbral crown]

i was using her since burst was lv7 alone

i have never used privaty in pvp

[vapid lake]

Good for u, i don't want to do it until she's ready to go

Whatcha gonna do

[keen vapor]

Never

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/doro-nikke-dorothy-gif-4211944325118705977

[keen vapor]

Cinder, I thought I scaped Pokemon Unite

[umbral crown]

[vapid lake]

Implying that's a bad ending

[hexed zephyr]

lol didnt think of that, i just like that shorthand over cindy

[keen vapor]

I'm not liking your Blanc teams

[keen vapor]

Cindorolla

[hexed zephyr]

how come? just the placement or the comps? if comps what would u suggest changing?

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

First of all, trying to get Indom for high HP units is harder than for attackers who have the lowest HP stats

Problem is DPS you using

[hexed zephyr]

so try and just put her with s anis instead?

i could do these 2 then?

[keen vapor]

Summer Anis is
1: Supporter, still quite high HP
2: her burst style is more of a dealing damage over time, so you don't want her to finish sooner by bursting at 2 RL

[hexed zephyr]

does the cinder team look good here though? and as i mentioned above i could use sbs, alice, ein, quency, or rei instead of the sAnis too i suppose for the first team in the pic

im pretty much trying to figure out the 2 best pvp teams out there that dont use biscuit or rh basically lol, it doesnt have to be sAnis in a team for me

[keen vapor]

Yes, Cindy team is good

RH is just better Liter just use Liter instead

[hexed zephyr]

for b1 i feel i have better than liter tho no? jackal ofc but others too like noise, rapunzel, rumani, or even moran, rosanna i guess

[keen vapor]

Different purposes, noise and Rapu are for healing, Liter is for buffing

[hexed zephyr]

sure, but for b3 who would u say to use with jackel blanc team if not sAnis?

[keen vapor]

I used SBS back in the day

But Blanc got targeted a lot so Rei along with Rosanna should be better than SBS Liter

[grizzled bone]

@keen vapor cook

[swift mango]

T1: S.Anis to p1. Jackal to P5

2.5RL could work against 2RL so it maybe be fine. But S.Anis without s3 lv9 is weak.

T2: Cinderella could go to p5 and you should be fine.

[keen vapor]

That didn't count? where's box

[hexed zephyr]

how about this? or u think if i get my sAnis skills up then she would be better than sbs here? (if i eventually get my scarlet up, im assuming i switch her into team 1 instead of sbs ya?)

also maybe switch spots of rumani and sr anis 🤷

[keen vapor]

Where's box

[grizzled bone]

[keen vapor]

[swift mango]

You don't really need 2.5, 3rl work just fine but yes. Your team would work.

[hexed zephyr]

after i get cubes on it it would become 2rl i think. thats what i was thinking of going for later, aka just starting with this 2.5 for now into 2 later

[swift mango]

Well, continuous damage like SBS and S.Anis won't benefit much being at 2RL.

Unlike Cindy and Scarlet

[hexed zephyr]

what other are like scarlet? ein and rei?

[swift mango]

There is also CP issue with your bring many weaker nikke

[jolly urchin]

For PvP are these teams good?

• Noah, Rapunzel, S.Anis, Bisuit and Noise
• ⁠Blanc, Centi, Scarlet, Rumani and Jackal
• My highest power team

Is there anyone I should move around or replace?

[swift mango]

SBS+Blanc+Liter(liter higher hp than SBS)+Centi+Jackal should be 3RL and work fine for now.

[swift mango]

In Jackal+Scarlet team, you put Scarlet at p1 and Jackal p5.

[swift mango]

Also, if you want Noise to burst you will need her in P2.

[neat dove]

Hey guys any idea how to beat these 2 teams? They keep kicking my ass at least 2 to 3 times per day and I’m basically the same about 20 to 30k deficient CP but I’ve fought 100k plus CP and I win so idk what to do. Any time helps thx

[swift mango]

You don't know what they attack with.

But a similar invested

Blanc+Emilia+RH+Biscuit+Jackal

Would easily beat their defense.

[neat dove]

Yeah that’s true my b lol and thx

[swift mango]

The second guy team looks very invested though compared to the first dude, maybe skip it if you don't have enough dmg.

One more level and he would get a boost lol..

[neat dove]

Holy shit it worked

Beat both of these 2

Now rank 3

[swift mango]

Gratz

[neat dove]

Thank you so much lmao and yes the second guy is heavily invested

Barely won Ngl

[lusty pelican]

okk

yea i tried all teams, im not ready now ig

[graceful grotto]

T1 is okay
T2 i would move scarlet to leftmost -> Scarlet-Blanc-Centi-Rumani-Jackal

better if you show ur full roaster tho

[rustic sandal]

for SP Arena what teams to use?

[iron valley]

would this work?

[graceful grotto]

for rookie? burst gen is quite bad tho

[iron valley]

i was trying the burst generator for the first time and i was trying to make a team for SP Arena. the idea behind it was that grave and sanis would buff cinderalla for it's big aoe

[grizzled bone]

Cinderella doesn't really need buffers

[iron valley]

i'm still confused about what i should look at. i should look at burst gen or full bar time?

[grizzled bone]

full bar time

[graceful grotto]

Scarlet-Blanc-Red Hood-Noir-Jackal (check CP deficit, if scarlet CP is too low can consider using SBS/Ein)

Moran-Rapunzel-Biscuit-S.Anis-Anis (can consider swap moran with Tia if CP is too low, Moran is premium PVP tho)

Noah-Centi-Cinderella-Laplace (treasure)-Noise

[rustic sandal]

wdym CP too low for morian?

[jolly urchin]

Here’s the majority of my roster, any better teams i could make?

[graceful grotto]

3RL

3RL

3RL

[graceful grotto]

in PVP u dw CP deficit to be too big, since it will ruin your stats (stats penalty), since i put anis in T2, ur T2 likely will be your lower CP team, so if Moran CP and Tia's CP difference is too big, can consider swapping them

[rustic sandal]

what is dw PC deficit

[graceful grotto]

don't want CP deficit

sorry not PC, CP

check pin for stat penalty explanation

[iron valley]

i'm so confused by it. what does it mean exactly? how big is the difference between 3.00, 3.30 and 3.50?

[rustic sandal]

umm why are there 2 noahs?

so which one is the team with noah and the one without

[graceful grotto]

ah my bad

first one is jackal, not noah

[grizzled bone]

if you compare the calculator to kosmiu's calculator the full bar time is just the overall team burst gen rating that. Full bar being a full bar of burst gen.
gatrix's is a little more indepth and kind of accounts for fractions. If you're using his [gatrix] the full bar time is the stat you're paying attention to the most

[quasi prism]

@terse abyss

you got knocked out of top 3 just now by that one feller with the japanese letter's i think

[graceful grotto]

Moran-Biscuit-Sanis-Centi-Laplace (T)

Scarlet-Blanc-Red Hood-Noir-Jackal

Noah-Noise-Rumani-Cinderella-SBS

[graceful grotto]

man fractions are intense, dude's cooking well

[quasi prism]

KO sitting in first

[graceful grotto]

questions for 400-500 synchro players, do you still use Anis in defense? or mainly relegated to attack only due to CP difference?

[jolly urchin]

So these teams are better than my original ones?

[inland coral]

sorry for the late reply but thankyou

[graceful grotto]

if you're constantly being attacked, you can do some trial and errors into these teams

[graceful grotto]

rapunzel is also a great pvp unit but you can check CP deficit and RL burst gen before slotting her (for example, slotting rapunzel instead of centi in T1 will results in 4RL instead of 3RL which is not what you want)

[graceful grotto]

ur T2 is good for 2.5 RL though, but doing so means your other team will have lower burst gen, you can try min max

[terse abyss]

My hero, I'll notify you too

[quasi prism]

I already used my last attack for the night to get back into second and knock that guy back to 6th after you hit him

[terse abyss]

Ko hit me twice so he's out too

[quasi prism]

I finished oling my S:anis gear the other day

working on asuka now

OH I can knock out 4hp bars on indiv anom now as well so that's pretty exicting for me

[jolly urchin]

So should I aim to have 3 decent teams or 2 Good teams + 1 highest remaining CP units?

[terse abyss]

I keep dying at the quick time part I think lol too lazy to look up a guide

[iron valley]

@graceful grotto can you help me with my teams too? i tried to make some teams with the burst calculator but they were shit/didn't work. my head hurts. there's still a lot of things i don't know about the game

(investing into new units is not a problem)
#pvp-arena message

[quasi prism]

Quick time isn't that bad

[terse abyss]

What weapon type do you use to do it?

[quasi prism]

I use my alice

But my alice is kind of cracked as well for ammo

I think she can fire off 20 shots before she needs a reload

[terse abyss]

Ic

[quasi prism]

Do you wanna see me do a mock battle real quick?

[terse abyss]

That can be done in-game? Or you making a video

[quasi prism]

I was just going to jump in a empty discord channel and stream it.

[terse abyss]

Oh lol

Nah I gotta go off soon, maybe some other time

[quasi prism]

👍

[graceful grotto]

both works on different scenario, i'll say change when you're constantly being attacked

[hexed zephyr]

@swift mango @keen vapor alright thanks for the help. left is what i got set up rn, and right is prob what ill build towards eventually with cube and scarlet

i guess by then if i have biscuit things can change but some units just hate me and shes one of them

[graceful grotto]

Blanc-Red Hood-Noir-Centi-Noise

Tia-Pepper-Biscuit-S.Anis-B.Soda

Crown-Rapunzel-Laplace (Treausre)-Sugar-Jackal

3 CP for all team, check CP deficit

[rose kestrel]

Hmmm... been wondering for a while, and it might be my opponent's fault, there's no Host Client priority or advantage right?

I keep getting knocked out first try, by the same person once a day or once every 2-3 days... whenever they choose me.

While I gain my spot back easily every day he knocks me out once... like 3-0 without much effort at al, first try.

So I'm puzzled... how he's able to knock me out, first try whenever they try to go for me...

Unless... they haven't changed their Defensive team... all these 2 PvP Special Arena cycles... or something weird is going on.

So again, I'm wondering, outside of Defender vs. Attacker team picks being different... there's no Host Client priority or advantage right?

[iron valley]

alright. thank you man

and for rookie defense i just use any one of them right?

[graceful grotto]

rookie u can go

Blanc-Red Hood-Laplace (T)-Biscuit-Jackal

ur laplace has fav item right?

[iron valley]

yeah. it's maxed

[graceful grotto]

nice

she'll hit like a truck even when not bursting

[iron valley]

by the way. would this work as a 2nd def team in case someone starts farming me?

[graceful grotto]

oh man i didn't see cinderella in your team lol

[cedar gate]

SP teams? My bad for the low quality

[iron valley]

does cinderella change any of the teams then xD?

[graceful grotto]

u can slot her in the last team, can do Poli-Rapunzel-Cinderella-Laplace (T)-Jackal

[graceful grotto]

that would be kinda weird since placing cindy at pos 1 would somehow ended up enemy team targetting pos 2 unit (in this case Pepper instead)

[iron valley]

alright. thanks for the help man

[graceful grotto]

for rookie, cinderella doesn't need much buffs as long as your CP deficit is not too heavy. So try to build more burst gen for her

centi/jackal/rumani/anis are some of the best burst gen unit

[iron valley]

i just wanted to see if i could make a team with her and sanis since both were electric type

[keen vapor]

Scarlet/Blanc/Centi/RH/Jackal

Noah/Noise/Summer Anis/Biscuit/Rapunzel

Liter/Naga/Cindy/Anis/Rumani (nvm, speed is enough)

[keen vapor]

Second team can use SBS but it will lose a mirror

Third one can use Rosanna instead of Liter but CP will be lower so invest

[graceful grotto]

anis + rumani carry lol

[keen vapor]

Indeed

[cedar gate]

Lose a mirror?

[keen vapor]

It will lose to Noah biscuit

She can't do damage

So I like Summer Anis more

I know lower CP tho

[cedar gate]

:NovelSmile:

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Auto team and hope for the best

[keen vapor]

Get a Moran, you'll need her

[umbral crown]

🎈

[keen vapor]

It

[hexed zephyr]

for what team? i have her in syncro device just 1/1/1 and no ol or doll

[keen vapor]

For champion arena or maybe team 3

I'll doll

[hexed zephyr]

what even is that? do i need to be a certain lv for that or is it not a thing yet?

[keen vapor]

Not a thing yet, but soon™

[umbral crown]

will you

[keen vapor]

I did

[umbral crown]

hmmm

[graceful grotto]

R or SR doll

[keen vapor]

SR

[umbral crown]

SR15?

[keen vapor]

5

I can't do 15 even if I want to

[umbral crown]

you have enough kits

what you mean

[keen vapor]

No,I don't

[umbral crown]

how many SR15 you have?

[keen vapor]

3

[umbral crown]

you should have more...

[keen vapor]

Scarlet is 10

I'm "unlucky"

[umbral crown]

i do have 6

[keen vapor]

[raven plover]

how to get moran

[umbral crown]

do not you...?

[raven plover]

me no moran

[keen vapor]

Wishlist and hope for the best

[umbral crown]

moranless is hard

but harder is no RH

[keen vapor]

Caishen

[umbral crown]

RH for 2 buffer Ein

[keen vapor]

Cyndy nuke

[umbral crown]

nah, cindy is just there... existing as my naga was for months

[keen vapor]

Same

Can't use her yet

[umbral crown]

but my cindy is kinda maxed, just 1 copy

[keen vapor]

Same

[umbral crown]

max skill and max doll

[keen vapor]

Not same

[umbral crown]

SR15

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

i have not done any upgrades on scar since like 3 months ago

[keen vapor]

How many spare dolls you have left?

[umbral crown]

like 2 or 3

with 2 selectors

from last SR

saving those for winter units

[keen vapor]

You combine a lot

[umbral crown]

not really, i hardly ever do

[quick lake]

Im have surplus SR dolls, and lack R dolls

[keen vapor]

So you equip instantly?

[umbral crown]

Most of the time, i need my units to get stronger

[keen vapor]

I have 4 SR shotgun dolls

[quick lake]

Time to SR5 ur clip SGs

[umbral crown]

But if im sure im not gonna use them, i just combine

And the only clip SG im running is viper+

[keen vapor]

I can't believe combining SR does not allow us to get mats

[umbral crown]

You get a selector....

[keen vapor]

There's raid DPS tho

[keen vapor]

We need mats

[quick lake]

I have like 10+ SR dolls wish i could fodder

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

Are they?

[keen vapor]

Maid Privaty, bunny Soda Noir

Pepper

[umbral crown]

Those...

I did reset noir recently

[keen vapor]

Pepper MVP

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

I never invested a lot on her

[umbral crown]

She was 7/5/4

[keen vapor]

5s

[umbral crown]

Now im thinking in the next unit to invest

[keen vapor]

I have to reset Leona

[quick lake]

xanne

[keen vapor]

X Mica

[umbral crown]

They are not here yet but the plan is to max skill them

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

And finally take some time to max burst on blanc

[keen vapor]

Some... What?

Oh

[umbral crown]

Being lv7 since like 6 months ago

[keen vapor]

I used burst at 5 for a while, now is 7

[grizzled bone]

Echo shouldn't you be doing UR?

[umbral crown]

He is unionless

[keen vapor]

Is done@grizzled bone

[grizzled bone]

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

My attacks of course, union still on level 5

[umbral crown]

Attack issues
?

[keen vapor]

Be glad I'm here to cook

[grizzled bone]

echo cookin

[keen vapor]

Yes for me I'm weak

[umbral crown]

Because you lacking motivation

[grizzled bone]

just get dip into the stash

no attack issues

[keen vapor]

I have slow mobile data

[umbral crown]

Like failing snipes

[umbral crown]

Get a better plan

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

We have unlimited plans for 3 dollas per week

[keen vapor]

This is my favorite combo

[keen vapor]

Speed is not

[vapid lake]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/441949270858530816/1298950708502200370/858675546186317855.gif?ex=6741005e&is=673faede&hm=9a7e9aa266a01406b5115aae252e7ebfbb57226152ec757555eecf0bd67f6a01&

Jk ily

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

It has a good spees tho, i can download patches and game and still works fine

This morning patch was with data and still working

Was fast

[keen vapor]

RD have better wifi than me

[umbral crown]

3rd world wifi winning?

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-impossible-marvel-shocked-gif-15104180

[grizzled bone]

Echo lives in the desert 🏜 with nothing around him

[umbral crown]

Will invite echo to the caribbean

Punta Cana

Imagine doing pvp in the beach

[grizzled bone]

Don't recommend

Sand gets everywhere

[umbral crown]

Waifu with sand

[grizzled bone]

https://tenor.com/view/anakin-star-wars-padme-gif-5048796

Also my phone over heated

[umbral crown]

The phone can swim

https://tenor.com/view/yuru-camp-nadeshiko-kagamihara-各務原なでしこ-nadeshiko-anime-gif-22299557

[grizzled bone]

Not mine 😦

[umbral crown]

First world phone issues

[keen vapor]

Rosy, did you know? I had a friend called Joan that is from there

[keen vapor]

It only needs Ziploc bag

[umbral crown]

He says ke lo ke?

[keen vapor]

Idk

He liked L from death note

[grizzled bone]

Que lo que

[glad meteor]

Did Noah block nuke? And die to scar s2 after

[lusty pelican]

die to RH and scar yea

able to block nuke

[glad meteor]

yeah. That’s a problem. I put sanis in p2 so noah would be taunting

[lusty pelican]

its too much cp gap ig

TT its ok i hit others

[glad meteor]

[tribal nebula]

Hi ! I'm stuck with this rookie arena comp (as luck would have it, it's used by two players):

Jackal-Blanc-Scarlet-SBS-Centi

Any idea ? (No cp penality)
(I don't have X-Anne)

[viral spoke]

try this

Noah - Biscuit - Tia - Red Hood - Centi

[elfin tangle]

hiya, could i ask the chefs here to cook up for me 3 team to do pvp please

[viral spoke]

since you ask 3, i assume its Special Arena then

[elfin tangle]

yes it is

[viral spoke]

i don't see Noah or Biscuit.. oof, that's bit of concerning

[tribal nebula]

Ok i will try 👍 thx

[viral spoke]

personally, i'm worried you might not get far and ran out of idea how to fit your team. i'll let someone else cook the team for you.

sorry i can't help

[elfin tangle]

it's ok

[molten lodge]

Help, I need a team for defense in rookie arena

[raven plover]

damn noise 2nd highest power?

[quick lake]

T1: Tia RH Rumani Quiry Laplace (Put quantum cube on rumani if u have)
T2: Noise Poli Priv Anis Drake
T3: Auto highest CP the rest

[elfin tangle]

thank you

[quick lake]

Maybe can try:
Noise Scarlet Centi Noah Jackal

[molten lodge]

thanks, I will try

[copper creek]

oh

[red phoenix]

i have this team for rookie arena, can i upgrade this team? and who should i switch?

[graceful grotto]

who do you have?

[red phoenix]

no crowd

and no limited childs

these are upgraded child, i have enough resource to do 1 full upgrade child

[graceful grotto]

no jackal?

[red phoenix]

nope

[fathom rock]

@grizzled bone @keen vapor

T1 can get 393k cp with cubes, what we thinking

[upper grove]

damn I cba to get back my 2nd spot when I can chill as 3rd and noone attacking me

the second I get back 2nd I get attacked again to go down to 3rd

[wild vine]

Are these matchups good? I can post all my nikkes if needed

[bleak latch]

he attack me the moment i checking sp arena so i can beat him back down immediately

[vapid lake]

Then he walks away thinking he won and doesn't check until tomorrow

[quick lake]

T1 probably win, T2 close win/lose, T3 lose

[quick lake]

What are those teams Both teams 4RL

[fathom rock]

Pepega team require pepega solutions

[wild vine]

thx

[fathom rock]

Team 1 is my main concern rn

[quick lake]

[vapid lake]

Retro getting attacked in pvp-arena

[fathom rock]

And Doro with bunnies and sanis

Synergy - 100

[quick lake]

Lmk how it goes!

[quick lake]

Probably can replace Ein with a clip SG. Cindy at P1 currently has bug, where enemy will now target P2

Might do Jackal Cindy RH ClipSG Laplace

[fathom rock]

Jackal should die then cindy can tank till nuke right

[wild vine]

T1 T2 won T3 loss

[quick lake]

Jackal should link with RH and Lap. So if jackal dies, other 2 dies. Also RH should use her B1

[quick lake]

Noicee

[fathom rock]

Does jackal link before or after cindy s1

[wild vine]

ye but ill proly lose it tomorrow when he attacks gonna have to defend haha

[quick lake]

Hmm probably before, not sure on this. Unlikely Jackal links cindy, cause her atk lower

[fathom rock]

What about T2 should I visit that

[quick lake]

T2 is just ded

I usually just use my defence teams to atk

[fathom rock]

Is this 3rl

[quick lake]

Nope

[fathom rock]

[quick lake]

Can swap Alice for Noah

[fathom rock]

Not enough cp

[quick lake]

Probably fine/better though

[fathom rock]

And this?

[quick lake]

yep! team should work

[fathom rock]

Will try

can game just give more fodder already to ol noah

[quick lake]

T1 CP diff too high

T3 looks scary also

[fathom rock]

15.9% huge diff compared to 15%

[quick lake]

Time to doll those pvp units up

[fathom rock]

I'm already working on it

Need noah boots

[swift mango]

They won't hit Cindy but skip her and hit Soda instead.

[swift mango]

You are over 15.4 decifit and will lose to normal attack.

[fathom rock]

Where were you a few mins ago

[swift mango]

Offline lol. I should read from bottom to top lol...

Nvm

[fathom rock]

Man this 2nd time I lose because deficit got overlooked here

[swift mango]

Just do (their team cp)*0.846 before attacking.

[swift mango]

You could try switch out S.Anis for Biscuit if Noah kept dying.

[green bear]

yo guys, i'm a returnee, where can i find a sample of current SPA meta comps?

[swift mango]

The pin comments of this chat

[green bear]

ah i see thanks

[swift mango]

Most meta comps required huge investment that you won't be able to mimic so take it with a grain of salt.

[green bear]

i see, my intention is just for ref, there were my old comps already

[umbral crown]

Nope, it mostly is investment issues and place jackal there because look similar cp with retro video

[swift mango]

The reason you won was because the other team putting Cindy p1 and biscuit block normal attack when you are gapped.

It's not something he could mimic.

[umbral crown]

He lost becauae he went against 2 SG with no jackal in the team and no way to burst faster, i would say also misisng key units to fight this kind of teams

[swift mango]

Remove Biscuit and you would have lost

Even if her put Cindy p1

[umbral crown]

Ita not about removing biscuit for another B2, its about he needs dolls and find the nest synergy for the teams but when missing the units and the investments a lose is expected to happen

Will show you an actual fight

[swift mango]

The thing about his team is he can't do what you did because he doesn't have the units.

His first team before fitting had a chance of winning though lol....

If he put Quantum on centi...

[umbral crown]

S.anis having ele advantage can kill fast emiloa, even without noir

[umbral crown]

Did not he

[grizzled bone]

Still need help?

[fathom rock]

No I lost again

[swift mango]

Well Rhea didn't put Quantum when he emu so couldn't even reach 4rl

Nvm

[grizzled bone]

Ah sorry mate. Was sleeping

[umbral crown]

Waos, missin units hits really hars

[swift mango]

He would lose anyway

[umbral crown]

Do not sleep

[fathom rock]

Would like a team for after reset, have Lv7 quantum and my pvp units not geared

Maybe if I save jackal on Cindy team I can move her over to sbs for ez win

[swift mango]

Do you have something else to tank?

[quick lake]

Bad cook sry

[fathom rock]

They all are waiting for fodder from ai

Jackal is 3/4 ol rn

[swift mango]

You have biscuit?

[umbral crown]

Every time you see 2 or more SG means Jackal P5

[fathom rock]

Atleast I learned something instead of losing and gaining nothing

[fathom rock]

Ol pending

[grizzled bone]

Both these enemy teams have bad burst gen. But I think you have a cp problem

[umbral crown]

Happens, even to me sometimes

[swift mango]

Could try to win with that

[fathom rock]

Bingo

[swift mango]

You could try to win with biscuit like the video Rosy showed.

[quick lake]

Hmm needa take into account this too

[umbral crown]

SG will always target P5

[swift mango]

About the only way to not die to normal attack under CP gap

[grizzled bone]

And if you have a cp problem then you need to burst faster or out stall them

[umbral crown]

Thats why people scar jack when they see SG in teams

[swift mango]

I have SG in all my teams, Scarlet+Jackal can't split into 3.

[umbral crown]

I onced tried emi P5 against S.anis being the only SG, my emi died in like 3 sec

[fathom rock]

Yeah but then I have issues killing them deficit over 20% so time to ol biscuit

[quick lake]

At what investment does Rosanna able to OHKO highest attackers? 7/7/10 sufficient? or need OL atk lines as well

[fathom rock]

4/10/10 iirc

[umbral crown]

7/10/10 with 40%ATK from OL and SR5 doll at least

[fathom rock]

[umbral crown]

But recommendation for higher sync is max doll

[grizzled bone]

This is what we usually recommend if you want to be safe

[quick lake]

Looks like Rosanna’s next

[late tiger]

What is ohok

[quick lake]

Needa 4x atk her now

[umbral crown]

My rosanna sometimes have a hard time killing well investesd RH

[quick lake]

one hit KO

[late tiger]

Thanks

[fathom rock]

Holy I haven't gave this much Investment into my emilia let alone alice

[umbral crown]

Leavig them at like 10-20%

[grizzled bone]

Rosa is harder to recommend for invest now though with dolls

Your resources are probably better spent else where with changing landscape of pvp

[quick lake]

Meanwhile I just started investing in Ros

[umbral crown]

but still works if against wack rivals

[grizzled bone]

Also true

[umbral crown]

[grizzled bone]

There are just a lot of options for attacking now and not for defending

[quick lake]

Rumani and Rosanna on my to-do list

[rustic sandal]

can someone help me with sp arena teams

[grizzled bone]

Rosa doesn't scale well at higher levels for defending

[fathom rock]

The guy with the scar jackal rossana comp I can't beat bc his rossana is one tapping me and it's hard to still get 2rl on 2 teams

I lucked out against him once

[umbral crown]

To get 2 RL in 2 teams you need all key units

[quick lake]

Hmm fair.. higher synchro

[umbral crown]

Since noah buff is easier to counter rosanna

[grizzled bone]

2rl Noah teams are the safe comp we recommend for Rosa snipe teams

[quick lake]

2RL Rosanna would kinda counter that wouldnt it?

Ah makes sense

[fathom rock]

I had a vid somewhere where I sacced 2 attackers and noah to barely win

[swift mango]

Their team is basically normal attack to win.

The 1st team could be 4 RL but the 3rd team will not burst.

So long as you could tank and burst you could win this.

Maybe move RH to team 1 replacing Liter. Replace SBS with Biscuit in team 1. Centi to p5.

[umbral crown]

Not really but would have to be kinda like a team i use but it requires lot of batteries

[quick lake]

Are there… 1RL comps?

[umbral crown]

Noah/Centi/Emilia 21% charge speed/Rosanna/Jackal

[fathom rock]

will check out on reset

[swift mango]

Idk your box so that's all I could say lol

[grizzled bone]

Technically yes

[rich quail]

I heard if Jackal feed is involved

[quick lake]

[umbral crown]

It works in rookie only, on SP you would make your other 2 teams too weak

[swift mango]

If you put Cindy p1 against a 2rl comp you could boost your opponent to 1rl.

Do it for fun then. 🙃

[quick lake]

Depending on Champion arena, I might 4x cs all my RL

[fathom rock]

Oh yeah this mf https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1296141835315712101/HnVideoEditor_2024_10_15_235914756.mp4?ex=67415466&is=674002e6&hm=c8bf9494ce5dafe2a9d6a22b26176347d9a3981c238f9c7c12b24f7aa3cf6c77&

[umbral crown]

But you have enough rocks for it?

[quick lake]

Kinda enjoying pvp more than SR lately

[umbral crown]

You know getting the lines you want is not easy

[quick lake]

after getting noah

[umbral crown]

[quick lake]

Only got Noah after 2 full years

[fathom rock]

Scar treasure so that I can 200 mileage when

[umbral crown]

Ein Treasure

[fathom rock]

Biscuit 4/4/4 right?

Need to Lv7 tempering too?

[grizzled bone]

Pvp is more fun

[quick lake]

Cube investment is shag

[umbral crown]

Bisuit 4/4/4 if you do not burst with her, if you do you would want to upgrade S2 and Burst

[umbral crown]

This mostlu used in defenders

[grizzled bone]

To start. S2 to 7 if you can afford. Burst can be at 1 if you're not bursting with her

[quick lake]

Do it for the CP padding

[grizzled bone]

Or 4 for padding

[fathom rock]

What comp would realistically even burst with her
I know sanis biscuit is a thing but I always see another b2 like noah or blanc

[umbral crown]

S.anis is the one you want to burst with her since she is a support

Like the video i showed, my viper is treasure 3 so there is a re enter

At the end im bursting with biscuit

[grizzled bone]

Pvp wise it's literally only for ASS

[quick lake]

Hmm didnt think of that. Time to swap my comps

[swift mango]

S.Anis or ASS only. There is no other worthwhile DPS supporter b3 in the game right now. PvE or Arena.

[fathom rock]

And moran necessary? Echo reccomended me to invest her first
Who is ass

[grizzled bone]

Anis sparkling summer

[umbral crown]

She is but depend if you want to invest in moran

[fathom rock]

I thought it was another unit

[quick lake]

If u invest Moran, u need another imvested clip RL to compensate for burst gen

[grizzled bone]

Ass is funnier than sanis

[fathom rock]

I don't have rumani she skipped me

[swift mango]

Moran can tank until burst in p1 without Biscuit. Provide you aren't above 15.4 deficit. Otherwise high chance she would just die

[umbral crown]

Moran is fun to play with, oced invested, can win in most situations

[quick lake]

I skipped Emilia

[grizzled bone]

Moran is fun. It took 11 months for me to get her

[grizzled bone]

🧱

[quick lake]

Truly

[swift mango]

Impossible to salvage brick, just reroll 🙃

[quick lake]

Reroll also cant get emilia

[grizzled bone]

Time to start new account

[swift mango]

But you don't have to fight Emilia

[umbral crown]

Check this moran

[quick lake]

So tanky

[umbral crown]

4 atk lines

[grizzled bone]

Moran sanis teams are pretty vulnerable to scarlet jackal teams though so keep that in mind

[umbral crown]

It just work against teams which are notnscar jack

[grizzled bone]

If you think your bracket has a built scarlet is gonna be a liability

[fathom rock]

Moran do dmg too

[umbral crown]

She does

[grizzled bone]

With 4 atk lines she does

[umbral crown]

But need high investment

[fathom rock]

Also didn't know you can just fight mid maint

[quick lake]

Moran 4x atk 4x def 4x ele build?

[swift mango]

Only when got buffed by ASS

[umbral crown]

The moran i use has max everything

[swift mango]

But still minimal

[umbral crown]

Only thing not max is cores

[fathom rock]

12 black lines

[glad meteor]

Cindy

[fathom rock]

Lv15 tempering

[glad meteor]

Mpriv should work but investment check

[fathom rock]

Oh yeah thanks to Sr I now have mpriv invested 7/7/7 full ol

And I haven't used her since

[grizzled bone]

She's okay for pvp

But not clip sg

[fathom rock]

My scarlet at home till maiden gets invest too

[grizzled bone]

Needs buffers for her nuke

[glad meteor]

Scarlet is a cheater with her s2

[fathom rock]

Can pair with sanis since by biscuit is not built for now but this is cursed

[swift mango]

She is basically copium Drunk Scarlet. Could replace Scarlet in her team without worry about burst speed check.

[grizzled bone]

GTG will check in later

[fathom rock]

thanks everyone I will be back soon

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

I'm wondering. Did you use your Moran p1 no Biscuit against above 15.4 deficit before? If you did, did she survive to 3RL?

Thanks in advance.

[graceful grotto]

Gotta give her smth

[terse abyss]

@quasi prism u got hit by restin

[quasi prism]

Not surprised

Thanks for telling me

🤣

Can't wait til the christmas/new year units are going to be here

[terse abyss]

Probably skipping this unit

[wicked burrow]

are these good attack teams?I know it depends but generally speaking

cp is low but other good invested nikkes arent that good for pvp

so it's either burst gen or cp

[swift mango]

Don't put Cindy to p1 unless enemy doesn't have clip RL.

T1 maybe barely hit 4rl I doubt it work well.

T3 is fine but I would put Jackal combo pieces to p5 .

[umbral crown]

Have to try it without biscuit but im sure she should be able to survive

But the boi changed comps and dropped some cp

[swift mango]

You could drop too 🙂

But well thanks for reply haha

[umbral crown]

no needed, i will wait for him to gain more cp to try

if i drop team will not be optimal since i would have to change some units

[swift mango]

Just remove the harmony cubes

[wicked burrow]

So how can I improve t1, and what exactly do you mean about T3 as jackal combo pieces?

[swift mango]

Jackal linked with 2 other units and share HP with them

So you put them at 1-5 to get feeds

[glad meteor]

Put 1 nikke in each team as bait

[swift mango]

Lol they don't want to lose

[glad meteor]

Blue shields only

[wicked burrow]

So they should be close together I see

[swift mango]

I mean Jackal often stay at p5 so she trigger her skill 1 on shotgun and get more burst Regen.

[wicked burrow]

Oh okay

Any suggestions about T1?

I considered centi instead of leona

But cp stops kinda

Although gen should be better

Also about jackal won't having her p5 slow the burst cuz then Tia bursts

[swift mango]

At this point Cindy is more of a death weight than Centi. Remove her. Remove Noise. And Centi and Liter.

[wicked burrow]

Why remove noise?

[swift mango]

Because Noise would taunt and die and less CP than liter.

[wicked burrow]

I see

Thanks gonna try

[swift mango]

If you want to do cindy team

Go with

Noise+Centi+Anis+Cindy+Jackal

[wicked burrow]

Well Cindy is whatever

Just considered her decoy thing useful

[swift mango]

It only useful for the enemies if you put her at p1

[wicked burrow]

I see

What place is good then in perfect scenario?

[swift mango]

5 if you want her to tank SG.

4 if you want to save her HP for later.

[wicked burrow]

I see, so she doesn't burst

[umbral crown]

Aftet losing bro went Super Sayan 4

[cinder siren]

But what if i invest for asuka as much as sakura?

[swift mango]

She will burst if you put no B3 in p1-2-3-4 lol

[swift mango]

Sakura is hard counter for SBS so long as she can burst in similar invested team, SBS would auto lose.

[swift mango]

Hope he won't pull the 61 lv diff.

[umbral crown]

he is 321 still, i find it sus since he jumped from 318 to 321 in 1 day

maybe this week he gets 341 boost

[swift mango]

Just save his boxes. Not that crazy

[umbral crown]

but when i was 283 he was 313

im 288 and he 321

he really geetting the stonk

[swift mango]

Well he should be clearing more campaign than you so the difference will would go up in the long run.

Right now maybe he just choice to open up his Battle Data bank

[umbral crown]

1h ago his teams were 1.161 and now boom 1.3m

[wicked burrow]

If, not sure 1 b3 is also good

[umbral crown]

thats true in that part, he finished normal already and hard he is 22-8 . normal im 32-20

[swift mango]

Cindy has like 0% chance to die before bursting in any team. But ofc it's defend on your investment if you have the units for her or not.

Below is her surviving a 1 buff 2RL Scarlet burst and win.

360k vs enemy 390k

[wicked burrow]

Interesting

[covert fox]

where should I put noah?

[swift mango]

For your line up specifically, I would replace her with Crown or Cindy.

[covert fox]

can I replace noise and noise replace crown?

[hushed tangle]

can i get some helping with building pvp teams? like full lineup help

[keen vapor]

You're going to use RH b2?

[fathom rock]

We adjusted, the problem was the other team dying to this crime of a comp

[keen vapor]

I think you have investment problem, synch isn't even far

[fathom rock]

My highest team doesn't even reach his 481k on his campaign comp

[keen vapor]

Retro, you checked my other ping?

On guides

[fathom rock]

I expected many typos along the way

[keen vapor]

[fathom rock]

Also @meager snow told me same, my units just keep having lower cp than usual

Maybe it's bc not a single unit I own has 12 lines and most don't have dupes

[keen vapor]

Don't worry about dupes

Those only give about 1.2k each

[fathom rock]

Please cook for this guy I'm doing coop rn

[keen vapor]

Is time to save rocks for champion arena

[keen vapor]

Noahless, but you have Bay....

[keen vapor]

There's no summer units either or Scarlet Alter

[quick lake]

ded

[keen vapor]

Wait, I spotted her

There's SBS

[neat dove]

Yo this dude literally copied my defender team and then proceed to attack me 3 times . Salty I beat him once lol. Anyway, any idea how I counter this team? This is exactly my defender team too

[umbral crown]

Imagine saving rocls and not building the units now

[quick lake]

Still dk who qualifies to enter CA

Is it only rank 1? rank 1-3 or top 10

[umbral crown]

I would say top 10 but get reasy regardless

You need to build your units and prepare your teams

[keen vapor]

Noise/Bay/SBS/Rapunzel/Anis

Scarlet/Blanc/Centi/Rosanna/Jackal

Rumani/Biscuit/Cinderella/Tia/Viper

Please overload your units

[hushed tangle]

been focused more on campaign team for OL gear but i will OL more eventually

[swift mango]

You could one shot with the same Emilia team you used before. But this one is even more invested. Hope you have enough dmg.

Okay this is basically the 2nd dude you fought before. So you should be fine killing the rest of his team... And hope you could kill his Cindy in time.

Check for deficit though.

Your team/His team CP need > 0.846.

[swift mango]

And wait for a year

[umbral crown]

Yeah, 2025 so we can get X.Anne next month

we can always dream

[swift mango]

2026

[umbral crown]

Enough time to SR15 everyone

[river moat]

if my team has gotten to challenger 10 in ranked does that mean its ok and should just stay that way? idk anything about pvp someone put my teams together for me

[copper creek]

that's up to you

do you want c10, do you want c1... that's up to you, if u want more out of pvp, then you invest more, otherwise if u have something that's getting u the goal u want, i dont see a problem

[river moat]

okay whats a good way to test if my teams are strong or weak? cuz sometimes i might just be matched with exactly a counter to my team and its just bad luck

[tropic summit]

still bad, it's a single target tauntable B3, i wouldn't go for either unless i'm strictly short of alternatives

[tropic summit]

[copper creek]

pvp in this game is just a glorified game of rock, paper, scissors
every team has a counter, rookie & special arena are both solved game modes

so i cant give u an un-counterable team
if u want to show us your teams though, we can tell you if they're sound

[swift mango]

Just throw it on your defense in rookie for a week. Then check your number of lose.

[river moat]

cool let me log in

[river moat]

oh thats a great idea...

[copper creek]

this one depends on bracket

no rookie def stands in mine 😂

also i'd be very careful about running any novel comps in rookie

[swift mango]

And one can only fight those in their own bracket. So it the most practical here.

[copper creek]

if u are running any non-standard/novel comps

dont really want to teach them how to deal with them in rookie lol

[swift mango]

Eh selfish

[copper creek]

that's the whole point lmao

[swift mango]

Good for you

[copper creek]

ultimately up to you

that's a side-effect of running funny things in rookie

just as long as u know that

[umbral crown]

[river moat]

munch ill attach my roster as well as my three teams is that okay

[copper creek]

i can have a look at ur teams

[river moat]

reminder, i dont know anything about pvp

[copper creek]

i will not team-build in this server

[river moat]

k fair

[umbral crown]

but post it anyway

[copper creek]

just split them into different msgs

[river moat]

okay i see so its easier to reply to got it.

[copper creek]

there is an attachment limit (i believe 4) - if u dump all the pic in the same msg it will autodelete

[umbral crown]

shorted by powe and horizontal mode

[copper creek]

so maybe -
one message for 3 teams
one message for box - sort by power only, horizontal

as rosy said

[iron valley]

that moment when you put your weakest team against their strongest team (155cp vs 205cp) and you actually manage to win

it ain't much but it made me happy

[river moat]

Roster 2 images

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/honest-word-its-honest-work-it-aint-much-it-aint-much-but-its-honest-work-gif-13763573

[copper creek]

oh thats alot of good things for newbie

[river moat]

Round 1

Round 2

[umbral crown]

bro have RH

[river moat]

Round 3

[copper creek]

bro how do you feel to be beaten to the punch with RH by a newbie

[umbral crown]

it should have happened to me

[swift mango]

U don't?

[copper creek]

i dont normally do this, but since u are newbie..

[umbral crown]

nope, and its been a long time pulling

[umbral crown]

ded

[swift mango]

Well, you aren't PvE so it's not that bad

[umbral crown]

but but in pvp she op buffer

[copper creek]

actually, you know what

[swift mango]

Still better than lacking Noah there.

[copper creek]

its fine

[tropic summit]

~~still better than lacking emilia ~~

[river moat]

thanks for all your helps

[copper creek]

if you're losing a lot then ask for another def team here when u pulled more

but, hmm

[river moat]

oh those r all attack

[tropic summit]

grave rh cindy noir blanc jackal pmaid and ein at lvl 140

mother of god

[copper creek]

**sp - def : **
-

**min. invest : **
if i didn't say anything about a specific nikke, use your pve setup for that nikke.
-

(this info is relevant for later in the game)
resilience cube is mandatory on s.anis.
quantum cube is mandatory on centi, jackal, rumani, anis (if you're using them).

vigor cube is optimal on noise, biscuit, rapunzel.
tempering (or vigor) cube is optimal on noah, blanc.

**include in wishlist : **
elysion - poli
missilis - centi
tetra - biscuit, noise, rumani
you can't wishlist pilgrims, so pray for - noah, scarlet

i do not advise running def teams on attack side :
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams.
ensure that the round1/2/3 buttons are visible so we know team order.

there are some changes i can make but in the grand scheme of things not gonna make a huge difference

cuz cp

[tropic summit]

actually recommending poli, that's cute

[copper creek]

he dont have x.anne

[swift mango]

I had Core 1 Emillia at 160. Nothing to envy about.

[tropic summit]

oh das why

[copper creek]

i mean if he gets x.anne sure that's great

otherwise, not like theres much that's more useful in elysion

[tropic summit]

i think i had maybe RH at lvl 140, nothing else as i was on copium with a generatic B1 and poli as B2

[river moat]

okay so you gave me general advice but havent commented on my attack teams yet right

[tropic summit]

i found the good shiet only later down the road

[copper creek]

i cannot comment on attack teams
depends on what you're up against

[river moat]

oh gotcha

[tropic summit]

you could give em the generic high win rate teams tho

[copper creek]

again, just treat it as game of rock/paper/scissors
if you know they're running scissors, you run rock for sure
likewise, you know their DEF, so u can easily just run something to counter it

[strange linden]

need new teams for SP arena please

[river moat]

my defense team is exactly my attack team. it has 1 loss so far this season

[copper creek]

i will not build teams in this server

[swift mango]

Kinda tiring to repeat this, but don't put Cindy on P1 unless enemies don't have any Clip RL.

[river moat]

no idea what that means

[tropic summit]

fair enough

[tropic summit]

that's normal, anyone with 0 clue on pvp will ask such a question