pvp-arena

[verbal oasis]

Here are my 3 teams in SP arena:

1. Blanc-Emilia-RH-Pepper-Biscuit
   2.Scarlet-Centi-Scarlet BS-Anis-Jackal
   3.Noise-Noah-Anis Summer-Laplace-Rapuzel
   Can u guys suggest me some change & adjustment i don't have Anne, Quency Escape, Eins, Moran, Bunny Alice & Rouge

Always being at most in dia 1 sometime made it to challenge 9 or 10 i think i can improve it

[grizzled bone]

you should probably specify if those are your defense teams or not

[keen vapor]

Swap pepper and biscuit places, she might get hits from snipers

Also swap Rapunzel and Noah places, better to have taunters on the sides

[umbral crown]

Echo cooking

[keen vapor]

runs

[vapid lake]

[grizzled bone]

[keen vapor]

Frieren

[keen vapor]

Is Scarlet team your highest CP team?

[rustic sandal]

how good are cinderalla, grave and dorothy in pvp ? i just got them

[vapid lake]

Grave and doro aren't good, Cindy is good

[uneven raft]

What 3 teams should I set up for SP Arena/Normal Arena?

[rustic sandal]

what should cindy skills be ?

[keen vapor]

Fox :deadge:

[verbal oasis]

I used that 3 teams for both attack & defense and Anis Summer is my highest cp team

@keen vapor apart from the position swapping do i need to replace any Nikke with others

[keen vapor]

Well, I'd prefer to have a buffer for Scarlet nuke if it doesn't drops CP that bad

[verbal oasis]

Can u tell me an example of this Scarlet team tks a lot

[keen vapor]

Liter instead of Scarlet Black Shadow

The RL units will require quantum cube at level 7 to keep speed fast

[verbal oasis]

So it will be Scarlet - Centi - Liter -Anis - Jackal right

[keen vapor]

You could swap Liter and Anis positions for attack teams when facing a team with shotgun,

If Scarlet had max ammo/attack overload lines it would be great

[verbal oasis]

@keen vapor ty

[heavy copper]

can someone help me 3 team for sp arena

these are the nikkes i dont have

[glad meteor]

No emi but you have rem

[umbral crown]

[heavy copper]

I don't have enough gems to get emilia

[finite wedge]

(it's been a while since I checked in here) but I think the chefs in here prefer to know what you have, sorted by combat power, so they can account for that too. Doesn't do you much good if they recommend a team that has no investment whatsoever right?

[heavy copper]

I have upgraded the nikkes that are highly rated in pvp but I don't know how to arrange the team

like jackal,scarlet,...

[graceful grotto]

there's a lot of type

but for me the best one is always

Scarlet-Blanc-Rapunzel-[Burst Gen]-Jackal

burst gen can be like Emilia, Anis, Rumani or Centi

[grizzled bone]

yeah usually you want Jackal in P1 or P5. P2 in some niche situations is alright

[viral spoke]

is it normal to think my rookie arena DEF loss came from whaler picking fight against me?

[grizzled bone]

you can see from the battle records who attacked you and tell from their profile if they're a whale

[viral spoke]

idk.. i can't tell the difference.
it would've been another story if i can inspect what kind of squad they use by clicking the said result

Leaving me in ambiguity and literally telling me to learn by not telling me what is the problem. Guess my Ex and Shift Up has something in common

[grizzled bone]

doesn't look like anyone in particular is targeting you in that screenshot

some of the ways you can tell that they're a whale is if they have a lot of costumes under their profile and if their synchro is unusually higher than everyone else in bracket

[viral spoke]

the frame is also can be deceiving since that's pretty much what everyone gets unless its Raid specific at higher rank

[formal cradle]

Bump

[grizzled bone]

SP Def

emi-blanc-rh-laplace-rumani
jackal-scarlet-bsoda-liter-centi
noah-noise-sanis-rapunzel-biscuit

[grizzled bone]

repost your roster from the Nikke tab sorted by power (default) and preferably in horizontal mode (settings>graphics). Showing what you don't have doesn't depict your roster accurately

[formal cradle]

Thanks! 👍

[sullen matrix]

Help need team for rookie + sp arena

[west steppe]

Can scarlet bs be used to replace regular scarlet in a jackal comp??

[rich quail]

It probably won’t be as beneficial

[fading heath]

In defense or attack?

If defense, no

[west steppe]

in attack

[fading heath]

It's dependent on the team you'll be attacking

But yeah imo I would say so

[west steppe]

ok cool

[rich quail]

It’s probably better to indom SBS with Blanc if you want survivability

[green epoch]

Ok so today I learned this might not be normal

[spiral onyx]

Will do the Cinderella analysis writeup later (probably this weekend) when I have time. For now, have a showcase video
https://youtu.be/HJdatjBsvrs

[heavy copper]

reup, can someone help me 3 team def/atk for sp arena

[graceful grotto]

1 - Moran Biscuit SAnis Anis Drake
2- Noah Centi Rumani Cinderella Noise
3- Scarlet Blanc Red Hood Noir Jackal

[heavy copper]

tks

[worthy lake]

Why spend gem on me...

[graceful grotto]

he wants a taste of that 3k juice

[worthy lake]

Now 2nd anniv not so worth to overspent gems, I think

[terse abyss]

Spend at least 800 gems to get 300 gems, the math ain't mathing

[tender valve]

https://tenor.com/view/otsu-bandori-bang-dream-girls-band-party-great-job-gif-26584812

[vapid lake]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-terra-ust-message-money-gif-23530621

[pseudo atlas]

can someone fix me

[swift mango]

What's not normal about it? Top1 a whale. The rest common folk.

[swift mango]

Darn I would just give up after 3 tries.

[swift mango]

You could hit the pvp ranking, check their name. Some peeps being asses and put blue nikke lv1 so you couldn't see their nikke at all. But you could still see their synchro level.

[swift mango]

The last one is slow. Maybe fine to counter Emilia or if you has more power than others. But better replace Naga with Anis for Defense.

[frank leaf]

bro is mad 😂

[worthy lake]

You are normal

[worthy lake]

Very mad

[loud sonnet]

My team is working

For now

[vapid lake]

What is wrong with ur bracket lmao

So many trigger happy gem spenders

[chilly furnace]

How cindy bar gain after bug fixm?

[swift mango]

Same

Bug fix doesn't change her in anything but displayed numbers.

.And charge damage bline being less useful.

[mighty haven]

[idle lily]

whats the meta pvp team

[tawny vine]

#pvp-arena message

[mighty haven]

My nemesis has crept back up to 6th

[rich quail]

Can’t spell die without Diesel

[terse abyss]

The game knows how to get people to spend gems. Think this is the only gacha I've played that ranks you in all these pve content too lol

[glossy coyote]

can someone help me to build the team for the special arena? for some reason there this guy despite under my level and my cp way higher i still lose

this is my pvp team currently

[glossy coyote]

i mean i always win against him but he always take my place, i can't defense against him

[icy orbit]

Could I have some help with building? I feel like my attack and defense teams are lacking. Here's my attack teams compared to my box

Box

Here's the defense, I feel like there's def a lot of wasted potential

[tropic summit]

question on sanis buff activation, does it boost mprivaty, scarlet and cindy burst or does it apply only on subsequent hits? (more of confirmation if anything, especially for cindy)

[lunar dirge]

Doesn't apply iirc

[lunar dirge]

Attack teams are made based enemy's defence teams

[icy orbit]

How about defense? Could I have help with that

[lunar dirge]

Swap Doro with pepper and poli with drake ig

[icy orbit]

Thats it? The other teams are good?

[lunar dirge]

Emilia investment?

[icy orbit]

Lemme get a screenie

[green epoch]

I was told I should get placed around people that started at a similar time, also my bracket is like 300k cp over everyone in my friend’s bracket who has been playing longer

Been playing for a month

[lunar dirge]

more whales

I can show my bracket

[icy orbit]

I got a bunch of screenies of my highest stat units

I have to do her gear rolls but she's im my top ten rn(emilia)

[lunar dirge]

Skillwise

[icy orbit]

Oh yeah lol

[icy orbit]

I sunk a lot into Cinderella which was lowkey dumb, but from what I heard she's a really good nuke

And I plan on using her for pve stuff

[lunar dirge]

Swap emi and rh places, let emi charge the nuke

[icy orbit]

Ok, and add those old changes you said to add?

[icy orbit]

These

[lunar dirge]

Ye

Will try to cook actual teams later

[icy orbit]

Alright just @ me whenever you finish, I greatly appreciate your work

[lunar dirge]

K

[molten maple]

Is pvp recommended for newbies?

[keen vapor]

For anyone who wants gems and isn't on returner account*

Like, newbies are the only ones to be able to succeed

[molten maple]

Ohh i see thanks

Do you guys have any recommendations, I'm running sbs/rouge/Cindy/crown/alice

[idle lily]

https://nikke.gg/arena-team-compositions/

is this team comp for defence or attack?

[swift mango]

Guess you wasn't playing enough. You could check their accounts. There should be no one with Nikke in limited banners before you start.

Or you created your account but started playing late.

[green epoch]

Oh ok yeah I thought the bracket was from when I first get access to the sp arena

I made my account end of July, but still, how is this bracket so far ahead of someone that started like 7 months before me

[swift mango]

This is a rare real/blue whale lol. Normal whales are just people that spent like thousands but this dude is one of the guys that carried this game revenues.

[lunar dirge]

because it kinda is the amount of progress you make at that time

[swift mango]

4 months old accounts can reach 600k for 3 team easily. The 800k guy is a small whale.

The power rush up faster thanks to the doll system. And supporting trial units in campaigns.

I started around 2 weeks before support trail units became a thing. So like 8 months and my bracket top 10 are at 1m.

Your bracket is still at the time when people throw in their campaign units to inflate CP I guess. So 500k for the proper built team should be in line.

[brazen ledge]

Tyvm !

[mighty haven]

[plush bloom]

i just wondering is my team good enough or is there any recommend for another team?

this's all i got

[swift mango]

Darn synch 348 and no Noah, really fear this to be my future lol...

Maybe replace Crown with Jackal and Noise to spot 5.

Or Noise s1 and Jackal s5.

That should put you to 3RL

[plush bloom]

i have noah

[swift mango]

Oh

Then just use Noah no?

[plush bloom]

what should i replace for noah? crown?

[swift mango]

Yeah, just like the first guy in your image.

[plush bloom]

ahh okay"

i need to build jackal first then lol

[swift mango]

Just Noah should be enough I think.

Noah s1 and Noise s5 to take away some pressure.

[plush bloom]

i always lose to regular scarlet that have a bit higher total power or synch than me

[plush bloom]

i see

[swift mango]

You team isn't 3rL so easy to lose

With adding Noah it's 3RL

[plush bloom]

so 3rl is about meta?

[swift mango]

3RL is the speed you bursting at

In 3 RL shot.

Fastest is 2RL but that required around 3 clip RL in the team at least.

3RL is passable.

And the common speed

Burst too slow and your opponent may just burst first and kill you

[plush bloom]

i see.. thank you for the advice

[raven plover]

we can 1RL thanks to cindy weird position skip and it looks like they havent fix that

[swift mango]

That's more about opponent line up lol.

[raven plover]

yea, you cant atk cindy for a few shots at start of battle, you "skipping" her eventho you use all RL, so if shes p1, you hit p2. 1RL / 1.5 RL doable. against SG def which is aiming p5, if you put cindy p5 they gonna aim p1

[swift mango]

I didn't realize Cindy at p5 would be invincible, thanks for the info lol.

[plush bloom]

is naga and tia would be good combination after blanc and noir?

i think i'll try cindy after her skill completely triple 10

[swift mango]

Naga and Tia is 2nd best combo for campaign but they nothing good for PvP.

[plush bloom]

so for campaign only, i see

[swift mango]

Emilia is better than Noir as burst filling in pvp. So maybe use her instead of Noir

[raven plover]

tia is ok if you fighting sanis

noah tia taunt both rockets

[plush bloom]

i think so, but my noir is +2 so the power would be drop but it is worth to try

[swift mango]

Tia, Noir, Blanc can be useful in pvp.

Naga is not really except CP padding.

Blanc is the best of the bunch.

[plush bloom]

yeah i have used blanc and noir combi in pvp before

[swift mango]

It won't be able to raise you pass 3RL though unless hitting Cindy spot 1 or Noise spot 2-4. So just keep Noir is fine I guess.

Just try to not hitting Scarlet+Jackal with SG.

[plush bloom]

yeah this 2 combination is so scarry

[balmy mirage]

Hi people, so i've never been much for Arena but do want to get into it now for some better rewards (usually hovering around Diamond 6 in Special Arena).
I've just been using whatever highest CP units i have without really putting any thoughts into teambuilding. Could i get some teams with my box for Arena?

[tropic summit]

wait what... so cindy in p1 would make the rockets miss her and only hit p2 due to AoE? or they hit p2 as if it was p1?

[raven plover]

no its not miss, you will start hitting on p2 for few shots then shift back to cindy, technically skipping her

[tropic summit]

alright, so that would mean the rockets hit 3 targets instead of the usual 2 (minus emilia who can hit 3 at p1), did i get it right?

[raven plover]

yes

[tropic summit]

ah fascinating

clearly a feature, not a bug

[raven plover]

https://x.com/DBdaisukiDaniel/status/1852843953738948656?t=XBZsX1MakNVm6nN6tuYbnA&s=19

ダニエル・NIKKEチャンアリ準備中 (@DBdaisukiDaniel) on X

シンデレラ配置による差
一番：ニケ1または、遮蔽物1または、ニケ2または、遮蔽物2にヒット
二番：遮蔽物1または、遮蔽物2にヒット、もはややる気が感じない
三番：ニケ1または、遮蔽物1にヒット
四番：遮蔽物1にヒット
五番：遮蔽物1にヒット

Twitter · Nov 2, 2024, 10:43 PM

[coarse lake]

I haven't seen p5 Cindy getting skipped

[raven plover]

this is what it look like (need to check the link). cindy is just getting skip

[raven plover]

wait lemme get the vid, they gonna aim p1 at start of battle

[raven plover]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1035735896374386749/1304122955332321381/ScreenRecording_11-08-2024_00-37-37_1.mov?ex=672f9025&is=672e3ea5&hm=0c970c012392837e75546620e905415e89890a21f1d63126f9061ebade98d4e9&

[coarse lake]

The shotgun aim at p5 as usual

[raven plover]

yea but not at start of battle, lemme get tia one at p5

[coarse lake]

They did, looking at the effects

Drake and noir

Even pepper targeting is normal, p5 at first, then taunted by noah

[raven plover]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1035735896374386749/1302509231651557376/ScreenRecording_11-03-2024_13-45-54_1.mov?ex=672fa000&is=672e4e80&hm=f9a278985bbdf7120248f0fcf944aab5f2cf12dbf7b7bbaa6eaf7251fd9655ee&

you see tia p5

compared to cindy p5

the first few shots gonna skip cindy

[raven plover]

which this link has test idk why

[lone sequoia]

decoy*

[smoky nest]

Any recommendations to beat this team?
My whipe kills everything except blanc and her protected Emilia. Her Attack whipes my team instead. Tried it with Shakal, x.Anne,Scarlett,Emilia,Centi and Shakal, Noa,Cindy,Emilia, Centi

[raven plover]

yea I was thinking the same, tho I dont remember how Rei decoy works

I thought delta bug gonna be gone after cindy coming

[lone sequoia]

tank damage deal to cindy, the only problem is that her decoy can't tank thorn damage (scarlet-nero S2) or RL explosion, the skip in p1 maybe is because the change in cover to avoid RL whiff/dodge

[raven plover]

wait change in cover?

[tropic summit]

low single target dmg until emilia hits, you could survive with a biscuit moran and delayed burst wipe (e.g. crown and pmaid or cindy), they'll also only hit position 1-2-3 (emilia won't deal much dmg as they'll burst nearly immediatly until she goes for the wipe 1 hit)

other option is a timed noah with w/e sustained dmg you got

regardless, that's a team i'd rather skip

@smoky nest something similar to this would actually cancel emilia during burst cast

[lone sequoia]

when SU "fixed" the RL shot whiff/dodge, normal whiff is harder now but reload-dodge is stronger, when units reload have a bigger window to "dodge" projectiles, i don't know if they changed how projectiles or the cover work but because reload can dodge more now i think is something with the cover

[smoky nest]

So team could be Moran, Crown/Noah, Cindy, Centi, Biscuit?

[tropic summit]

yes, that's a possibily as long as you manage to delay and skip the emilia wipe, at that point it's unlikely she'll be able to kill you off with the remaining indom

[idle lily]

any idea how to counter this? do i skip it or try to counter it

[mighty haven]

2.5-3RL? What are the other comps

[tropic summit]

but uh @smoky nest do you absolutely have to fight that one team? it has variables i'd rather skip

[tropic summit]

if this is 3RL, you can scarlet noah rapu centi jackal

noah will nullify scarlet dmg, and their scarlet will suicide on yours

[smoky nest]

It's the team with the most points. Can't reach him if I concentrate on only Top 2-5 teams

[tropic summit]

aight, then go with the above, it should win although i don't remember if miracle has clip RL or normal RL

nvm checked on our pinned, looks like she's the same as noise speed, e.g. a standard RL and not clip

scarlet noah rapu centi jackal should outspeed and kill them, even if she does revive, you've a few seconds of invulrb. to kill her again right after

unless i'm missing something

[swift mango]

1st pic 3RL

2nd pic 4rl

[whole shell]

1st doesn't look 3RL though

[mighty haven]

Skip the Noah team, try Rail's team vs the XAnne/Scarlet 3RL

4RL tempo though, I'd be highly tempted to do something dumb like Noah/Noise/Cindy/Biscuit/SAnis, since Moran won't be able to defend everyone against eventual Cindy nuke

[swift mango]

Noah+3RL is 3RL, SBS even has a bit faster regen

Nvm only 4rl

My bad

[whole shell]

Yeah

Was gonna say both kosmiu and gatrix calculators disagree

[idle lily]

according to the excel sheet it's 4 4 3 RL

[whole shell]

I assume its that scar team that is 3rl?

[idle lily]

ye the scarlet team is the 3 rl one

[swift mango]

I was counting on Noah = Anis but apparently it's quite a bit difference between the 2.

[whole shell]

Yeah

Noah gen is only 24

[mighty haven]

Anis/Jackal/Centi/Rumani, and Emi +21% CS

[whole shell]

21csEmi is only less when accounting for speeds faster than 2.5RL though

[red cape]

Ughhhh I dropped off the game for a few months after Crown and now all I can do is get walled at Diamond 3

[summer copper]

You snooze you lose

[quasi prism]

Consistency pays off

[red cape]

True but god damn

Guess I just need to start building OL gear for my pvp nikkes

Cinderella is kinda kicking ass tho ngl. Is she as busted in the higher rank pvp?

[swift mango]

She is new meta

[red cape]

Sick

[quasi prism]

Look up the messages keripo has been sending the past couple of days.

[red cape]

So do I want Jackal with her or Scarlet at this point

The struggle

[swift mango]

Keep Scarlet+Jackal for another team lol.

She is fine so long as she can burst she clear them out.

Scarlet want Jackal for her s2 reflection m

[tropic summit]

depends, she's heavily burst regen thirsty, even with 3 clipped RL she's not fast enough (the support needs to be at least noise level fast)

now put emilia instead of anis and it might've lived, but it limits your choices a lot

[swift mango]

Not everyone has enough units for 2RL team in defense dude. You just kicked a 3RL ass with a 2RL team. What's your point?

[tropic summit]

they have emilia i don't, used it in another team that got defeated because they splitted them up

in my book that's a mistake, just pointing it out how dependant a cindy team is

[swift mango]

Defense team will always be at a disadvantage no matter what. Emilia+Blanc would lose to a slower blanc team but still a strong team for defense. If they don't use that then they put weaker them instead huh?

[tropic summit]

point being? i'm talking about cindy energy burst here and it's clearly VERY thirsty

if i commit 3 of my clip RLs and can't defend, especially since i don't have emilia, i'd be dropping from challanger like a fly

[swift mango]

Well, sometime keeping challenge meaning you just need to log in more than them to so they affair of attacking you.

For nothing

[tropic summit]

ah yes, the arena login games

[swift mango]

I could reach 3RL with Cindy with just 1 clip RL though. That dude just over spent.

[tropic summit]

you've a video of that?

[swift mango]

No just use the calculator and you would know.

[tropic summit]

right

[swift mango]

Anis with lv7 quantum.

Noir with lv7 quantum

Noise

Then Cindy and another

[tropic summit]

that another being a non clip RL or non clip SG?

[swift mango]

Can be SR for all I care

[tropic summit]

seems like quantum lv7 adds fascinating regens

so you'd run something like this, with 5th spot being also a rifle enough to reach 3RL with quantum on 2 units?

[swift mango]

Bruh I hope you and I aren't in same bracket in the future lol

[tropic summit]

?

i'm trying to have a conversation to understand your point here

[swift mango]

Because I had to deal with mirror then haha

Yeah that sth like thay

[tropic summit]

oh oke

well i'm far from hitting quantum lv7

so it will be a long while till i can test this

[swift mango]

You could use another clip SG though

[tropic summit]

yeah or throw in a biscuit for the 3s invuln.

this would be annoying to deal with (without a noah)

[swift mango]

Still 3rl

[tropic summit]

ye

you wanted to 2RL with 2nd SG?

[swift mango]

But nah, that could make opponent 2RL

[tropic summit]

because of the cindy bug

[swift mango]

Cindy won't combo with biscuit for now

As they won't hit her whether s1 or 5

[tropic summit]

true

then probably better to go something like this

[swift mango]

Unless they had big invested Laplace to clap your s2 real hard

So biscuit would trigger

[tropic summit]

right indeed

oh well, once i hit lv7 on quantum i'll give this a shot, sounds pretty neat

[swift mango]

You won't need lv7 quantum with that team. It's already 3rl. And can't be faster.

You will need at least 3clip RL to make Cindy 2RL team

Noise s1 would die easily though

[mighty haven]

Cindy 2 RL nuke costs resources, only viable for atk

[swift mango]

Well you could have 2RL cindy and 2RL Scarlet in defense. But you need to be a long time player who has everyone for that. Like Kepiro

[tropic summit]

arena will probably become more and more of a free for all massacre the more nikke are released, the less people will be able to consistently defend unless CP padding

wonder if in a few years we'll get to see the light of this

[high vapor]

@coarse lake @tropic summit @fading heath I won with the team comp @whole shell told me to use: Blanc/Emi/RH/Crown/Jackal thanks everyone 🙏

[fading heath]

[whole shell]

poge

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/821876244000800769.gif?size=48

[tropic summit]

i must say i've never seen a rank 10 spot being as contested as yours

[unique heart]

Hi! Can someone cook for me a defenese team for special arena?

[fast relic]

Ready to throw another OL on for arena. I don't think it matters much who I pick, but between Biscuit, Noah, Centi, Moran, Noise, or Viper, who would be the 'best' choice?

Or would adding levels to SAnis gear be better than making new OLs

[mighty haven]

I do have the lowest overall team CP in C7-10, everyone in D1 to D2 can attack me

I haven't calculated RL of my Def2, it's probably 3 if not 3.5 RL

[swift mango]

Well, rank 8-9-10 is a hotspot. Especially 10, you could be attacked by all rank from 11-40.

[brazen grail]

i need good squads for both rookie and sp

[final tendon]

so i got treasured laplace but wondering if my def teams look alright. did some shiftying around

[swift mango]

When I was still new into sp at rank 10 it was hell.

[brazen grail]

don't forget this please

[swift mango]

Rank 7 above is much more chill

[final tendon]

i took crown out but want to slot her in maybe since she gives me a big power bump

then again

[final tendon]

i was gonna tell you to copy some of my homework but you have noah so idk how that affects things

[brazen grail]

well
someone else help me then

[brazen grail]

there's my box

[swift mango]

Just at a glance

T1 is 4rl. Other 2 are 3RL.

But T2 use tia so get to b3 slower, like 3.3RL or sth.

[final tendon]

is this worth a 27k power decrease?

i feel like it is

[swift mango]

Defending on how many % is that 27k. From 377k to 350k is fine. From 177k to 150k is not.

[final tendon]

244k to 217k

[mighty haven]

Yeah, Tia is there as a CP padder...reckon it's worth moving so it's Rumani/Anis/SBS/Tia/Rapunzel instead?

[tropic summit]

jesus...

[whole shell]

tf

[mighty haven]

This is my alt1, only 1 of my 3 accounts that has Rapunzel/SBS

[swift mango]

At early game maybe tia buff could help more than harm. Who knows, maybe her shield could prevent one shot.

[tropic summit]

i wanted to run 2 accounts aswell, it was taking too much of my day (daily) and gave up by sticking to my main, even if my rank 1 is cooked beyond redemption

[final tendon]

3 is still wild

blood do you think the 244 to 217 is too much?

now that i think about it a bit more, does seem like a big dip

[mighty haven]

you're more likely to be CP gapped, if opponents recognise it

[final tendon]

yea

[tropic summit]

at nikke level 295ish best i could do is 75-80k CP difference, but it means your defense will likely be obliterated shortly after, as they'll have attacker advantage

[mighty haven]

Just for reference, this is C1-3 on my alt bracket

[tropic summit]

that guy needs his own server at this point

[vapid lake]

There's no turning back now

I'm saccing solo raid

[mighty haven]

did I mention both of them have C7 Cindies

[vapid lake]

What the fk are these rolls man

Why can't my pve units get these

[mighty haven]

MORE ROCKETS

[swift mango]

If opponent be around 258k you will be in CP deficits.

[tropic summit]

considering their investiment, it would be surprising they didn't at this point

[mighty haven]

its also CP padding for Noah, good 3 L11 lines

[tropic summit]

but you know, they may aswell win all the defense game, but they've lost as they're no longer playing the game, but the game is playing them

[final tendon]

updated to this

[mighty haven]

My 3 accounts keep me on my toes

[swift mango]

Why can't any of my units get those?

[mighty haven]

why does my alt Asuka have some oddly distubring lines

[swift mango]

Playing 3 accounts is hard. I was playing 5 account on HI3 and 10 accounts on Rise of kingdom before.

Too much burnt out

[tropic summit]

dafuq 10 accounts

noway in hell i could keep up with that

[swift mango]

You need that much as F2P/low spender to compete in those whale bait "strategy" games.

[final tendon]

the fk

are you doing ok bro

[tropic summit]

at that point I question whether it was even worth it

i'd rather just play a more normal experience

[swift mango]

Whale spend hundreds thousands to millions to buy resources. So need to use 10 account to feed one to at least eat their scraps instead of being completely nobodies.

[swift mango]

I mean I stopped playing multi account thanks to those experiences.

[tropic summit]

yeah, it was probably the right choice

[final tendon]

yeah

[swift mango]

Still playing multiple games so it's not much better.

At least not doing same chore many times a day.

[keen vapor]

Araragi Koyomi

[whole shell]

tf

I'm having trouble even doing my dailies in both nikke and pgr

[glossy coyote]

any idea how to improve my teams? for some reason always lose in defense with someone i always beat, have the same team as defense and attack

[tropic summit]

i think you can safely assume team 1 and team 3 are the ones losing

team 1 had as unprotected noise and slower RL than team 2 and team 3
team 3 indom might not be activating properly on redhood

team 2 looks fine

[glossy coyote]

yeah had been experimenting with the team a lot and i feel this is where i feel like it can work

[tropic summit]

in fact team 2 probably is too fast

[glossy coyote]

but yeah still lose to someone so confused what should i do

should i just equalize the burst generation team?

[tropic summit]

i'd distribute at least 1 of your clip RL from team 2 to the other "weaker" teams

[vapid lake]

I just OL'd my noah there's no turning back

Instead of OL grave i chose noah

[tropic summit]

that's definitely an option

the opponent probably got used to your teams and knows how to time your burst gen

messing around with gen burst is one way to possibly lead them to a mistake

alternatively, switch the approach, e.g. from burst to sustain or tank aggro

[glossy coyote]

i feel like the team 1 with noah noise bisquit is already sustaining a lot but it still easy to beat huh

[tropic summit]

i'm not a fan of noise in spot 1 and noah in spot 2

also because noah has the bad habit to mess around with aggros

also your team 1 suffers from cindy piss poor burst gen

[glossy coyote]

yeah sometimes i see her not aggroing properly

[tropic summit]

you could for example switch cindy with scarlet

team 2 has massive burst gen, cindy would love that

[lunar current]

i'm feeling a little attacked

[whole shell]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

[tropic summit]

took 6 tries, not even worth the gem's he'd potentially get

ego is a wild beast

[glossy coyote]

maybe make noise and noah in spot 1 5?

[tropic summit]

i'm more comfortable with noise in spot 1 or 5, just not in spot 2, as for noise i'd rather her be in spot 2 or 4 or 5

additionally based on your RL, i think noah can tank fine position 1

[fading heath]

My bracket holding a truce or something

[tropic summit]

people tired of fighting the same people to only lose the spot to someone else because everyone got each others counters, all too familiar situation

[fading heath]

You know if I targeted the 3rd guy, he would fight back lol

He prob liked his spot cuz its 3k juice

[tropic summit]

sometimes i question if those extra 300 gems are worth the headaches they come with tho

[neat harness]

Need new defense team for rookie and SP arena. Thanks in advance

[fading heath]

It is worth it if you are taught to be asian

[tropic summit]

oh no, that's like living life in hard mode

[glossy coyote]

my bracket is so damn competitive especially that kylo guy always sniped me when i fight with someone

[fading heath]

I'm kidding, i just wanted to try beating people with higher cp

[tropic summit]

do it, it's actually fun to achieve it when it happens

[fading heath]

The people with C9 and 10 never actually stay top 10 if I never tryharded lol

And back then they keep bullying me cuz cp....

Where is my 100 gems of gratefulness

[tropic summit]

the secret hidden weapon of PvP, wallet-kun

[mighty haven]

And then my 2nd NA alt, comfy

It also features a C1 Whale

[tropic summit]

see how you do with these:

[vapid lake]

Ain't worth it, i just protect my current spot and if nobody attacks me i just make someone above me spend gems for fun

Lately people below me have been spending gems trying to take my spot now too so i'm winning either way

[tropic summit]

such a waste of resources, RIP

[vapid lake]

I'm making people help fund nikke

[neat harness]

thanks

[tropic summit]

if in team 2 your SBS doesn't survive, can put her in slot 2 and blanc in slot 1

the current setup pretty much ensures she'll likely get indom as long as she survives the 3RL

[neat harness]

ok gotcha

[proud relic]

Any arena / sp arena team with these?

[unique heart]

Can i get help too? I asked once but no one reply and the message flew away

[torn garnet]

Anyone got a team i can use with these characters?

[keen vapor]

6 months and synch not even 160 :deadge:

[keen vapor]

Moran/Biscuit/Summer Anis/Tia/Naga

But the others are way higher in level so it won't do much

[fading heath]

Is your: Red Hood, SBS, Cinderella, S.Anis, Rosanna, Anis, Jackal, Centi, Biscuit, Moran, Noir, Blanc built in any ways? OL gears and/or skills?

[loud sonnet]

[rancid patio]

heya, so im getting stuck around mid-diamond and its been a while since I touched up my pvp teams, any suggestions on what to change? https://i.imgur.com/8kZAx4y.png https://i.imgur.com/prPm0ay.png https://i.imgur.com/eTifDTs.png

and here's my roster https://i.imgur.com/MLDlMol.jpeg

https://i.imgur.com/14nGFVU.jpeg

[loud sonnet]

T2 has no B1

[rancid patio]

tia is b1 no?

[loud sonnet]

Nope

[rich quail]

You need another B1 to follow Tia or else she bricks your team

[rancid patio]

gotcha

DKW would work well right?

[unique heart]

RH SBS Cinder SAnis 70-90% built
Jackal Centi Biscuit Blanc Noir has head and ammor OL skill 4/4/4 (some has a little more)
Rosa and Moran no

[rancid patio]

also what teams should i make lol

[copper creek]

ok lets see whats up here

[loud sonnet]

Wait for someone im not good at making teams just want to point out that tia isn't gonna make your team burst

[copper creek]

yep seems ok, unless i missed any unanswered mechanic/specific questions

[fading heath]

ok not too bad. Rosanna and Moran is pure pvp units so if you really wanna do a lot of pvp, consider having them around. Jackal and Centi are very core as burst gen, so it's good to get them to 4 OL. The rest are good in both pve and pvp so have their important skills up to least lvl 7, and beyond for optimization.

[copper creek]

there is merit to building moran

rosanna, not anymore with the introduction of SR dolls.
if your opponent has a full team of SR5+ dolls, rosanna is rip.

[fading heath]

If you wish to use S.Anis, make sure her burst skill needs to be at 9 to ensure her 1 max ammo during burst

@copper creek you have cooking license?

[copper creek]

i will not cook in this server.

i will answer specific questions, but i will not teambuild for players in this server.

[unique heart]

Yes. I do have her at 7/7/9 rn

which one i should get to 7?

for other chars

[fading heath]

SP def:
Team 1: Crown, Red Hood, Biscuit, Noir, Jackal
Team 2: Blanc, SBS, Liter, Anis, Centi
Team 3: Moran, S.Anis, Pepper, 2SG (B.Soda, Drake, Maiden)

[fading heath]

Red Hood, Blanc(mainly burst), Jackal (Skill 2), SBS

[unique heart]

So i dont use Cinder? :/
Shes qutie invested tho

[woven ether]

what if we dont have emilia?

[fading heath]

Yes, but with your current roster, it might be a bit tough building her team

It's missing a quite a bit of other units

You could replace either SBS or Red Hood with Cinder, and if you replace Red Hood, have her replace Liter after

[unique heart]

What do i need for Cinder?

[fading heath]

Ideally, You'll need to get more high burst gen battery unit to pair with Cindy, as she is strong to burst without buffs, so you'll want to reach burst quick for her .

I.e. having Rumani and Noah will be nice.

[unique heart]

Anis jackal centi and SG should be fast enough?

[fading heath]

Yes, but then you will have a cracked Cindy team, and opponent will obviously ignore that team and take down your other 2 teams as they will lack burst gens

Having at least 3RL on all 3 teams is the ideal case for defense teams, as they will be quite balanced around, and your opponent might have to sit down and decide which team to attack

[unique heart]

I can make 1 team with just pure cp and no burst and 1 with all the sg i have left. Idk

[fading heath]

It could work, but most likely they won't survive

Because most SG aren't tanky units

[unique heart]

I still have biscuit which might do something. But none of the clip SG is defender

[fading heath]

Yeah biscuit prevents at least 2 defender from dying when they reach their 50% hp

[unique heart]

i wish i had noah or rap or rumani to makes things way easier

[fading heath]

My suggested teams should be all rounded enough based on your current roster, but feel free to edit and make some other changes

[unique heart]

Luck is not for my favour

[copper creek]

biscuit wasted on t1 - think about what biscuit does and what putting her on that team does for you
apart from that, t1 is closest to being ok
t2 and t3 both not ok

[unique heart]

Munch, can you cook for me 3 def teams. I want to see various of teams so i can see what else can i do

[copper creek]

no, i will not build teams for players in this server.

[unique heart]

awww :(

[copper creek]

just see pinned msgs

some things might be outdated but i think a lot of whats needed is all there

[unique heart]

alrighty

How do i want to build my moran btw?

[copper creek]

4/7/7-10 if using standalone without biscuit

if using with biscuit, 4/4/4 is enough.

also, for most players, moran not necessary unless you are up against a bracket full of crazies

[unique heart]

oh... okay

I just SR doll all of my defender according to the pin. Only useful one including moran

[final tendon]

hm i switched my t1 to this so i'm content enough with it, but what about t2/3 are bad? RL3/3.5 are the most i can do atm

[storm quail]

Which one looks more promising

[graceful grotto]

Ur team is kinda all over the place, u need to show ur full roaster to provide you a full SP team lineup

[graceful grotto]

T2 but need to check CP deficit

[storm quail]

9.82%

[graceful grotto]

Should be fine

Cindy don't need much buff anyway

[storm quail]

The sheet says his team shouldn't be able to burst

But he did, for some reason

Maybe cubes or CS line

[graceful grotto]

Scarlet burst gen is kinda RNG

Since her counter is % based

[storm quail]

Fair

[graceful grotto]

But u won right?

[final tendon]

ah damn really? here's my box

[graceful grotto]

T1 - Scarlet Blanc Rapunzel Anis Jackal

T2 - Moran S.Anis Biscuit Centi Drake/Laplace (T)

T3 - Tia Noise Cinderella RH Noir

[digital fractal]

It's impossible to have an unbeatable special arena team right?

[graceful grotto]

Almost impossible yes, since every team has a counter

[storm quail]

I gonna wait until he attacks first

[storm quail]

As long as your synchro is high enough, no one can beat you

Even if you put a team of R Nikkes

[drifting socket]

how to win?

[final tendon]

Do you win a mirror matchup?

[drifting socket]

havent tried

would it be better to swap sanis to p2 though?

[final tendon]

That I don’t know so I’ll let someone else answer

[safe kindle]

maybe u can try this
Moran,Noise.Biscuit,Swimsuit Anis.Jackal

[drifting socket]

i dont have moran built

[safe kindle]

[dire bobcat]

Reccs for SP Atk/Def teams? Been struggling against people with similar CP but I'm seeing people in high ranks despite having a much lower CP than others around their rank (300k+ deficit)

[jagged coral]

need team for sp arena

[umbral crown]

Cereal will.cook for you

🎈

[final tendon]

thanks for the help btw. power def feels low but i think i'm getting beat easily regardless defense wise. so at least the teams make more sense now

[strange quail]

Hello everyone, can I have a suggestion to beat this team ? Thank you

[safe kindle]

maybe Blanc.SSAnis.Biscuit.Crown,Jackal

[drifting socket]

can just cin

[safe kindle]

yeah highspeed Cin also

[lyric topaz]

What pvp team can I cook up with my roster
( I don't have biscuit, jackal and Noah :sobs: )

[wheat heart]

are these attack teams ok

[kind glen]

is blanc emilia rh biscuit jackal still the god comp?

[wheat heart]

it's beatable but unless they invest in PVP its very strong

[eternal thunder]

cleanest pvp fight I did in a while lol

[autumn mulch]

Anyone wanna play together

[mint prawn]

How should I improve my current SP Defense team of:
Jackal, Scarlet, Poli, Naga, Noir
Blanc, Emilia, RH, Biscuit, Centi
Noise, Noah, S.Anis, Rapunzel, Tia

[white folio]

actually what happens in a
Drunk Scarlet/Blanc/Liter/Centi/Jackal team?
cause i see a lot of them now, why blanc?

[raven plover]

[white folio]

thank you

[raven plover]

basically you have to deal with 1 HP scar if you block her slash

[white folio]

is black shadow scarlet charge burst rate good?
(or can someone please send me the whole charge burst rate thing? thank you)

[tall wasp]

Hello
Can you guys recommended best defense team for rookie arena & special arena?

[lethal karma]

Hi. Can I get 3 offense and 3 defense teams for SP arena? Thank you.

Maxwell is lvl 160, this was before putting her back in Syncro. I just MLB'd Privaty Unkind Maid

[wheat heart]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11KWYeyvef91A-vfFuqglJJ8-OhR90TcKFVpJ6Ny_5h4/edit?gid=1990278246#gid=1990278246

click on "burst gen" at the bottom

[spice thunder]

Can someone help me make a good pvp team

[grizzled bone]

SPA Def

Scar-Blanc-Maiden-Liter-Jackal
Nero-Noise-Cindy-Rapunzel-Anis
Noah-Alice-Poli-N102-Noir

Jackal, Noah, Anis 4/4/4 skills

... this doesn't look like your old roster. Are you running more than 1 account?

[spice thunder]

Yeah I am

Still trying to catch up on my main account but the cp gap seems pretty huge idk if I'll ever catch up

[loud sonnet]

The other one was able to adapt against my team

[pseudo blaze]

Can someone help me with my special arena pvp team? I just really need two solid team. Can't beat anyone in my server

[vapid lake]

I got 2 moran in a single 10 pull with normal tickets

[graceful grotto]

Noise Centi Anis SAnis Rapunzel

Scarlet Blanc RH Emilia Jackal

Noah Biscuit Pepper Cinderella Noir

[pseudo blaze]

Thanks! Though who can replace jackal?

[vapid lake]

nobody

[pseudo blaze]

damn

[vapid lake]

jackal is god tier in pvp

[graceful grotto]

Just realized u have no jackal

[pseudo blaze]

yeah I've trying to get her for so long

[graceful grotto]

Maybe slot Tia in for the burst gen

But lineup should be

Scarlet Tia Blanc RH Emilia

[swift mango]

Just build a team without one. Not like there was no one ever reach C1 without her

[vapid lake]

we got another PVP MA now? Echo watch out someone's gonna steal ur job

[graceful grotto]

Nah I'm pseudo only

[pseudo blaze]

thanks I will try that

[graceful grotto]

[swift mango]

This time won't be 3RL, just 4RL and even slower with Tia.

Don't do this bro

[graceful grotto]

Yeah most scarlet x Blanc one would be tricky without jackal cause you prompt to feed the oppo jackal

[swift mango]

Unless Emilia 21.6% charge speed maybe

[graceful grotto]

I would have suggested Rosanna to immune jackal feed but burst gen is terrible if that's the scenario

[swift mango]

Just use Maiden or Harran.

[west briar]

Can you guys help me build a team for a few teams for PvP? I'm new to this.

[pseudo blaze]

I will try that too thanks

[swift mango]

Harran won't work, sorry. Use Maiden. Then put quantum cube on Emilia and maiden.

[pseudo blaze]

okay got it

[swift mango]

Or you could move centi down from t1 and move Maiden to there.

But need to change placement so S Anis would burst...

[drifting socket]

q.q dunno how to counter

[swift mango]

Maybe use Emilia+Blanc.

[drifting socket]

No Emilia :(

[safe kindle]

take Moran replace Noa

[drifting socket]

Ok

[swift mango]

I remember someone said Tia+Noah could counter both of S.Anis shots, not sure though.

[drifting socket]

Dunno about tia Noah but I tried tia noise

[swift mango]

Just use Blanc on S.Anis tbh.

[drifting socket]

Mmm how would I make that team?

[loud sonnet]

Just gonna wait for SSR selector on new year to get jackal

[swift mango]

Blanc+S.Anis+Biscuits+flex+Defender

[drifting socket]

Would RH centi work?

[swift mango]

It's 4L just hope you won't die before burst

[drifting socket]

Hmmmm

[swift mango]

Maybe Blanc on SBS would better haha.

[drifting socket]

Ok RH centi worked ty :D

[signal turret]

I just saw that you can exchange the dna for gold molds and bought 30 rolls with them, Please could you help with my 1v1 nad 3v3 teams?

[swift mango]

Same

Meanwhile I'm chilling on C1-3 without her.

Just need to win the login war

[drifting socket]

I've learned my 1v1's schedule to win that war

[swift mango]

There are 3 guys in my bracket who could breach my defense. So I focused on the one who login the least. He then ignored me and hit the other dude. So I keep beating spot 1 now since the other 2 fighting each other.

[drifting socket]

I'm in 2 and guy in 4 keeps attacking me even tho I only give him an hour per attack

Dunno why he can't just kill 3 smh

[swift mango]

Maybe the 3rd harder to beat or only gave him minutes.

[drifting socket]

3 couldn't beat me tho

[swift mango]

Maybe s6 keep hitting him and he needed to stay away from them.

[drifting socket]

[swift mango]

Or the rank 3 changed his defense team more often so it's troublesome to hit him. Or he just wanted to beat you since r2 is better than r3.

[mint prawn]

Could anyone help me improve SP Arena team? Currently running
Jackal-Scarlet-Poli-Naga-Noir
Blanc-Emilia-RH-Biscuit-Centi
Noise-Noah-S.Anis-Rapunzel-Tia

Seen a lot people running Cindy recently, is she really good in PVP?

[swift mango]

She is basically best wipe in the game right now

But least burst gen

Instead she need no buff, or just noise

[mint prawn]

Hmm, should I put her instead of S.Anis and move her to my Scarlet team then?

[swift mango]

So basically Kilo+++

Nah it's pointless to put them together

[mint prawn]

Fairs. Honestly I have no idea how to build a team in PVP

Should I just keep my current team as is then?

[swift mango]

I guess it would fine

[cunning vector]

hello can I get some sp arena teams? I have synchro device slots open so I can add more units if needed

[swift mango]

For team 3 put quantum lv1 on Noah at least.

So you could reach 3rl

[swift mango]

For team 1, maybe bring Jackal to s5, replace SBS to Naga. Sth like

Scarlet+Poli+SBS+Noir+Jackal

[mint prawn]

Poli stays just for the fact she buffs attack for Scarlet right?

[swift mango]

Yeah

[mint prawn]

Cool cool

Imma give it a shot then. Cheers

[swift mango]

Are you using CN or Jpn letter for your account name pre chance?

[mint prawn]

I dont think so? I'm purely using english alphabets

[swift mango]

Scarlet+Blanc+RH++Noir+Jackal.

Noah+Centi+Cindy+SBS+Noise.

Moran+Pepper+Biscuit+S.Anis+Anis

[cunning vector]

oh thanks, that's for both atk and def?

[swift mango]

I just edit team 2.

[cunning vector]

thanks a lot

[swift mango]

For ATK it's defending on enemy roster. But you could build a 2RL Scarlet and maybe a 3rl Blanc team and use for everything. Just hit the weaker 2 teams

[cunning vector]

got it

[slender flare]

@chilly furnace 😿

[umbral crown]

🎈

[merry radish]

all my nikkes, any decent pvp team I can use?

[ancient sage]

Can someone help me to beat this guy?

[rustic sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/continue-genm-dan-kuroto-revival-gif-11116850

[ancient sage]

Here are my nikke

[rustic sandal]

Well if it isn't another one of the Ex-Aid Faction

[ancient sage]

Yep,I name after him

[rustic sandal]

Any recommendations for a PvP 3-team layout?

[covert fox]

please help me with team building for sp arena

[copper creek]

because tia taunts after 5rl

lmao everyone asking for teams, no specific/mechanic questions

[umbral crown]

[covert fox]

[umbral crown]

chefs are sleeping, soon they will help you

@keen vapor its your time to make duke shine

[keen vapor]

Zzzzzzzzzzz

Noahless

[umbral crown]

make him burst with biscuit

[keen vapor]

There's no Moran Either

Let's see

Noise/Rapunzel/Summer Anis/Biscuit/Anis

SBS/Blanc/Centi/Liter/Jackal

I wish I had Rumani for third team Anis isn't invested either

Wait, for first team I'll actually need Anis there I think

Now I'm out of clip RL for Cindy

@covert fox does your Viper has her favorite item?

I'm hoping it doesn't

Video format people want to end my 2gb left :deadge:

Help me @umbral crown what's in there

Nevermind, is 1.2 GB left :deadge: dorover

[umbral crown]

nikkes,at nikke tab on lobby, in-game settings > nearby > horizonal if on mobile and sort by power only

[umbral crown]

ask for pics, be smart

[keen vapor]

I asked you to tell me what's there

[umbral crown]

ask the boi to send you whats in his

[keen vapor]

I asked for text

[umbral crown]

im not gonna name 40 nikkes

[keen vapor]

You don't have to name SRs/Rs

And I can see the first ones already

[rustic sandal]

This better

[keen vapor]

I understand now

[keen vapor]

How you have half the roster yet not in level 160 yet?

[umbral crown]

yes, echo can cook this way

[keen vapor]

People in PVP does level up you know? if you're getting CP diffed I can't build a team that can work

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

He's 6 months in the game, people break wall in 3

He isn't even fully in the wall even

[umbral crown]

i broke it in like what... 5

[rustic sandal]

Idk what I'm doing that's why I'm coming here asking y'all

[umbral crown]

you ar ein the right place for pvp

chainsaw collab and lv155

[keen vapor]

You need to solve wall issues in order to be able to PVP :deadge: your best chance right now is auto team

[keen vapor]

WAIT I DIDN'T SAW MAKIMA

[umbral crown]

Xlud X.Anne

[keen vapor]

ITS OVER

[keen vapor]

I only saw Kilo and called it a day

[umbral crown]

xRupee

wonder if his C1 is lv481

[keen vapor]

Bud, your PVP bracket is already on level 400, you can't catch up anymore

[quasi prism]

Yeah pvp is kind of a dead dream if you don't stay consistent.

[keen vapor]

You can still play campaign and events but now you have no chance at PVP

[quasi prism]

That's for sure.

[keen vapor]

You asked 2 years late :deadge:

[drifting socket]

Rip gem income

[rustic sandal]

A. What does wall mean
B. So wait for the reset then go at it?

[keen vapor]

You can't level up Nikkes that aren't at 3 stars

So you need 5 of them at 3 stars for them to carry the synchro device for the rest

That part of the game is what we call the 160 wall

Cuz you're stuck against that progression barrier

[keen vapor]

The problem is unit level, can't solve by a daily reset

🧱

[rustic sandal]

Ohhhh thank you I've been wondering for a while now how people have their Nikkes at like lv 500+

So then shouldn't I level the r and srs since those are gonna be 3 stars?

[keen vapor]

💀

[keen vapor]

They can only get 2 stars that's why there's two empty spaces for them

R can't get a star at all

[keen vapor]

You'll need 5 millions of core dust to get to 500 level since after level 200 it's needed 10k of core dust each level

And you can't farm not even 1% of that a day

So, it's over

[keen vapor]

You could have started by mentioning your bracket was at that level

@umbral crown I demand a refund of MB

[quick lake]

200sync vs 500 sync ded

[rustic sandal]

In my defense I don't even look at my Srs and Rs

[keen vapor]

155synch even better

[quick lake]

instant kaput

[quasi prism]

https://tenor.com/view/gnome-punting-punt-wow-warcraft-gif-17977929

[jagged coral]

need team for sp arena

[swift mango]

Have anyone ever tried Soda's stun in arena?

Or saw it in action?

[swift mango]

I broke wall in 6 weeks.

[copper goblet]

should i just replace scarlet with cinderella and call it good or should i make more changes

[keen vapor]

These speedrunners

[swift mango]

Just get lucky. When I broke the wall, I saw 2 guys in arena already broke it before me.

[keen vapor]

I can't even get Cindy or Pinne 2

[swift mango]

Just use milelead

[umbral crown]

[swift mango]

Replace Cindy with Quency if you must. Keep Scarlet team intact for the love of RNG god.

[copper goblet]

so just not using cinderella and keeping it as is will work too? Quency and Cindy are at pretty similar investment levels so idk which one will work better

[swift mango]

Cindy will hit harder at same investment.

[copper goblet]

ok cool ill make that swap then

[swift mango]

Quency has better normal attack damage but that doesn't mean much in pvp.

Plus she feed Jackal more than Cindy.

[empty shuttle]

Is there any improvement i can make on def team?

[swift mango]

Maybe put Cindy to slot 5 if you don't want her to be hit at all. Put Quantum on Anis and Pepper so you could reach 3rl.

Hopefully.

Maybe 3.5RL is fine I guess.

3RL would need b.soda or at least Tia and lose CP.

Comparing to Naga

If use tia will need lv7 quantum too...

[empty shuttle]

My quantum is only at lv4 and yeah... its still at 3.5 according to the table

[swift mango]

You could be 3rl with b.soda replacing Naga.

[empty shuttle]

Yeah but her cp is very low

[swift mango]

No worry about quantum but if that CP works instead.

Then nothing can be changed.

Just Cindy s5 won't be hit at all and SG would hit Moran instead.

[empty shuttle]

Aighty. Thank you

[swift mango]

Blanc team would work better at 3.5 RL than Cindy team if you could.

And team 3, if you want Blanc to survive as she keep dying, could move to her to slot 2. She could buff RH in case SBS đe.

[slender otter]

New player here. Can anyone give me some team reccomendations for SP arena?

[swift mango]

Blanc+Scarlet++Rapunzel+Harran+Centi

Viper+Anis+Cindy+Rouge+Noir

Crown+Pepper+RH+Biscuit+Sugar.

[stuck hill]

Gee gads... I added Biscuit to my PVP team and suddenly I win 7 defence battles in a row.
Update - Correction... 8.

[swift mango]

Biscuit is op

[west briar]

I'm newb. Can you guys help me build a few teams for PvP pls

[swift mango]

I'm out of juice, someone else could help ya.

[rigid valley]

throw in blanc, bisc for one team then poli priv on the other, ez

[swift mango]

Okay you could go with

Anis+Pepper+Biscuit+Neon+Cindy for Rookie.

[stuck hill]

Harran is also decent for her screenwipe burst... Not great, compared to other options but if you need another burst 3 and the your primary has fallen it's an option to consider seeing as she's in your top 5 most powerful and used to be a PVP contender.

[swift mango]

Are you talking to me? Because Harran is just burst filler in that team to reach 3rl. Rapunzel talking care of the revive.
T2 is also 3RL

T3 is like 4RL

That's the best 3 team I could come up with your roster.

[twilit bay]

How do you beat Cinderella, Noah, Biscuit, Jackal, Centi?
2RL scarlet nuke?

[swift mango]

Or just use Blanc.

[swift mango]

Nvm I got it wrong person.

[twilit bay]

I just realised, wouldn't any team with an AR cause them to burst in 2RL due to feed?

[swift mango]

Really? You could try the feed chart to be sure.

Or just use 2RL scarlet nuke.

[rigid valley]

does his noah look beefier than his centi

if not, it wont matter *much

cause his noah wont be linked

[swift mango]

If their team being in that order then you could hit 2RL easily. With 2 Clip RL hit s2.

Then you could even use Blanc team lol.

At 2rl

[upbeat basin]

Can I get a team build. I need mats to level up nikke skills

[rigid valley]

if in doubt, just slap a stall comp with jackal

should work, i think™️

[swift mango]

Rookie? Noise+Noah+Rapunzel+Cindy+Noir

If too low CP then just Add Noah+Anis to your 3 highest CP honestly.

[upbeat basin]

Oke tnx

[twilit bay]

The same team with Red Hood instead of Centi worked. Somehow burst faster than them

[rigid valley]

Enemy rl prolly whiffed too hard

You can record next time to be sure

[twilit bay]

You were right, I tried again we burst at the same time

[rigid valley]

What synch are you? An unbuffed cinderella should have no shot at 1shotting a stall comp at higher synch

[eager mountain]

finally knocked down the 1st place thats cp diffing everyone

[swift mango]

I got my Emilia to 21.4% charge speed(with skill 1), it's enough right?

Getting to 22% would be hard.

Waste 2 rock to reroll just to realize it's 21% not 21.6% I somehow remembered.

Now time to roll on Cindy next... Need to increase he cp more.

[lunar pawn]

cindy skip still bugged for arena?

[swift mango]

Haven't test again today but yesterday, yes.

Assume no fix since no maintenance

[tropic summit]

emilia can be countered, although it sucks not having 1 of the best batteries, you can still somewat survive, although im my own bracket those with emilia seem to do better than those without (on rank retain / defense especially)

[swift mango]

Emilia also clap hard with normal attack comparing to other burst charger lol.

Emilia+Laplace can often exterminate s1-2 before burst, no need CP or level gap for that.

[proud relic]

any team for sp arena and rookie arena?

[tropic summit]

haha that's disgusting

meanwhile dev looking at arena: "aint fixing that shit"

[tropic summit]

for rookie you can probably go

noah anis cindy liter centi

if they clap you with that, replace cindy with privaty

[swift mango]

Sp

[tropic summit]

especially at your level, most ppl will struggle unless they're smurfing

[swift mango]

Oh shit somehow I erase my suggestion

[swift mango]

SP team

Moran+Centi+Anis+Tia+Cindy

Maiden+Noah+Viper+Liter+SBS

Flex auto team.

[proud relic]

xd, thx

[rustic sandal]

teams?

[proud relic]

this is atk/deff too, right?

[tropic summit]

yeah you can use them for both

both are also decently fast and have got tanks or invulnr.

[swift mango]

To be safe

Team 2 go

Maiden+Noah+Liter+SBS+Viper. Though.

[empty shuttle]

Is there any tip to build an atk team? Like which spot i should put my dps and defender? Im starting to lose a lot on attack lately and its not a pleasant. I also lost to a team that can burst eventhough i have no cp penalty

[tropic summit]

you can find some useful links in the pinned in this chat, especially concerning burst gen, which is an important basic to learn

to cut it short, you should know that position 1 2 and 5 are the most generally exposed (pos5 to shotguns, pos1 and pos2 to rocket launchers, pos1 also to single target)

you should also aim for teams with at least 3RL or 3.5RL, as any slower you're very likely to get bursted or killed before even hitting your own burst

finally, there's specific counters to learn for specific lineups

e.g. scarlet against shotguns/MGs/rifles etc
noah timed against bursts
sustain/invulrn/indom teams against burst

taunters, revivers, 5 team SG to get rid of a specific pos5... and more

[empty shuttle]

So now lets say my opponent has noah and his team comp is 3RL. What my team burst gen should be?

The timing should be 0.5 or 1 slower?

[tropic summit]

depends, noah is a burst II, it means that even if you burst slightly earlier, your burst is at burst III, they might have already burst II UP

it's safe to skip noah teams if you want to avoid having to deal with that

[empty shuttle]

Yeah. But i already skip Scarlett team most of the cases :/

[tropic summit]

what's their RL on their scarlet?

[proud relic]

should i upgrade noah, anis, centi skills for pvp?

[tropic summit]

anis is more of a filler battery, if you get romani or jackal use them instead

[empty shuttle]

Idk. Probs around 3.5 at least

[proud relic]

okok. btw is this just a defender team? or i should use rhis as an atacket team too

[empty shuttle]

I dont have good nikkes to come up with a team that can deal with scarlet even if i can get a 2rl team

[tropic summit]

then you can kill her with scarlet centi rh/rapu sanis jackal

[proud relic]

im using this for attack atm

[tropic summit]

yeah that's way too slow

[empty shuttle]

Yeah thats the problem. I dont have scarlet

[tropic summit]

any other burster that is not cindy?

[proud relic]

u asking me or rn u talking to the other guy

[swift mango]

You could win with CP gap of 15.4% by normal attack. Otherwise, you would lose against proper arena team.

[tropic summit]

you

[empty shuttle]

i dont have any of the burst b3 built

WHo should i go for mpriv bsoda or maiden?

[proud relic]

i have these b3

[tropic summit]

mpriv is useful also on tower, maiden is exclusively arena, soda is eh....

hmm SBS might work

show us the enemy scarlet team

[empty shuttle]

I run out of chance today so i cannot check on them

[proud relic]

enemy scarlet team? nvm

[empty shuttle]

Idk but i got nuke my bsoda when i attacked. Sanis killed his sbs but then he burst with bsoda and killed my team :/

Idek whats going on anymore

[proud relic]

xd

[tropic summit]

aight keep in mind you could potentially beat em with these:

SBS centi rh/rapu anis jackal
rapu cindy centi snanis jackal

[swift mango]

Elysion suck so bad that Maiden can be used for tower as well.

[tropic summit]

eh that so

[proud relic]

okay

[tropic summit]

my elysion is also the weakest of my tower teams

[swift mango]

Same lol. I would use my M.Privaty instead if I didn't OL maiden.

[empty shuttle]

sbs and sanis on the same team?

[tropic summit]

ah nice, didn't see that copypaste error, lemme fix that

[tall wasp]

Hello
Can you guys recommended best defense team for rookie arena & special arena? 🙏🏻

[tropic summit]

fixed

for cindy team you could put centi in first slot, but i don't like having the only tier II on p1

and the cindy bug would be very lovely to be fixed

(if they ever will fix it)

[swift mango]

Rem+Ram+Emillia+Bay+Clay

Product 23+Doro+Asuka+Mari+Rei.A

Neon+Anis+Rapi+Red Hood+Snow White

These 3 team should beat everything bro.

[rustic sandal]

need arena team

like normal arena

[tropic summit]

rookie or SP arena?

[rustic sandal]

rookie

am doing ok in sp

[empty shuttle]

Btw, i tried against this guy in rookie. Why he bursts before me and why his team feels like more tanky than mine? I also tried to swap blanc for anis too

[tropic summit]

go with scarlet liter anis noir drake, if you get jackal later down the road get it revised again to improve it

[tropic summit]

blanc = bad burst gen
biscuit = average burst gen
cindy = no burst regen
laplace = average burst gen (if treasured, high burst gen)
jackal = high burst gen

essentially, what you facing here is biscuit giving invulnerable to blanc and jackal, for then blanc to give indom to the lowest HP in the team, if your team aims those, they'll inevitably take forever to win

[rustic sandal]

thank u

[swift mango]

Cindy at s1 make them hit slot 2. Result in them charging fast burst from 3RL to 2RL. Don't out her there unless you know they can get better charging speed hitting s2.

[empty shuttle]

so what can i do to deal with that?

[tropic summit]

what blood typed is also very important, change your cindy position to any non p1 or p5

you'll reduce their burst speed aswell

[swift mango]

Cindy is almost completely unable to combo with Biscuit at the moment since they hardly hitting her at the begin of fight to trigger biscuit.

[empty shuttle]

Oh so there is mechanic on which she shots first? Iirc when i read the thing i though everyone just shot from left to right one by one :/

[tropic summit]

their rockets will, currently, hit your p2 to essentially hit 3 targets rather than 2

[tropic summit]

SGs first 2 hits iirc go for p5 then change to p1 or to taunter
any other gun goes on p1 iirc

[swift mango]

Basically, Cindy make target skip at the begin of arena match.

Put Cindy at s5 and SG with hit S1. Put Cindy at slot 1 and everything hit s2 except SG.

[tropic summit]

what an headache

try with blanc cindy biscuit centi jackal, in that order

(if you wanna keep ur current lineup)

[empty shuttle]

Why Cindy make the target skip? How does it work?

[tropic summit]

unintended bug yet to be fixed

[empty shuttle]

Oh. So its not a thing for every dps. That saves lot of times of thinking

[swift mango]

Basically, enemies nikkes can't target Cindy for first 3 second of the fight (enough for 3RL to burst). She can still be hit by flash damage from RL.

[empty shuttle]

Since position is important. If i face jackal, how should i put my team in order to do the least feeding?

[tropic summit]

jackal feeds the least from RL and sniper rifles

while she feeds the most from MGs or high rate of fire in general

[swift mango]

Jackal is more about their build than your. Just don't use MG, SMH and SG

[tropic summit]

btw, what would you use to beat this lineup @swift mango

i've a lineup that works only 50% of the times due to indom funny things

[swift mango]

Blanc+Emilia 3RL

Scarlet 2RL

[tropic summit]

they survive scarlet 2RL

[empty shuttle]

So, where should i but my jackal and my dps? 1 2 5? But on which order?

[swift mango]

Then Blanc+Emilia+RH+Biscuit+Clip RL should suffice.

[tropic summit]

don't have emilia

[swift mango]

4RL Noah?

[tropic summit]

if you running scarlet, scarlet in p1 jackal in p5
if you not running scarlet, the tank in p1, jackal can be p5 or p4, the 2 highest atk (and sharing jackal buff) can be p4 p3 or, less recommended, p2

[swift mango]

Or 4RL Blanc+SBS.

[tropic summit]

yeah... tried that, biscuit gives invulnerable twice to noah... so you've 3s of noah burst +2 times 3s from biscuit

hence why my blanc + RH indom of 10s is still 50% win ratio

[swift mango]

You could bring 3 SG to fill rest of the team and blow biscuit away.

[tropic summit]

hmm

that's worth a shot

[swift mango]

2 should be enough even

[tropic summit]

centi RH pmaid noir drake 🤔

[swift mango]

Blanc+S.Anis should work too.

[tropic summit]

i fear blanc would make me too slow

if they hit noah burst i'm done

and rapu revives biscuit

[empty shuttle]

Yesterday i faced a guy with sbs on s2, he had blanc too. And my teams always made his sbs the lowest hp so she stayed alive and destroy my team within the burst. Is there anything i should know about blanc?

[swift mango]

Noah only 3 sec.

The basic of Blanc+Anis 3-4RL is that you have 7-8 sec to clear them after Noah expire.

4RL Noah could maybe catch that Emillia nuke too.

After she nuke and got caught, they are done.

[tropic summit]

what would be a lineup to achieve this?

noah crown sanis RH biscuit?

[swift mango]

Well, sorry wrong reply but you could use SG to hit spot 5 if they don't have Jackal.

Or just Moran+Blanc to stop them.

You can win against Blanc by burst much faster than them and wipe them out. Make other Nikke take her buff. Kill Blanc before burst.

Or burst slower than then with your Blanc team.

[swift mango]

Sound like it could work. I'm not sure the right window to catch that nuke though.

It's defend on their Reload speed too.

[swift mango]

If you Sakura is built then she would be Hard counter to SBS.

[tropic summit]

tasty, although very close

let's see if it is consistant

[empty shuttle]

SSakura? Or the regular one?

[swift mango]

Regular

[tropic summit]

aight, gg @swift mango

[empty shuttle]

I dont have her either

I lack every pvp nikke possible

😓

[swift mango]

Moran+Flex+Biscuit+S.Anis+Flex is what I often use to deal with Blanc+SBS

The first flex need to be b1.

[swift mango]

Well like I said, a slow Blanc+DPS combo should work in beating Blanc+DPS.

Or you could just skip that team if it's sp arena and hit the other 2.

I remember you are still new. Lv160, you still have lots of time to pull other Nikke.

I still lack Jackal and Noah at 281+ here.

[swift mango]

My Emilia+Blanc+RH team lose once to that similar slow Noah before. When I attacking them lol.

[tropic summit]

yeah i just did 4 win 1 loss

sadly the one loss was the very last one and i did a quick play so i didn't see why, probably some whiff/RNG stuff

[umbral crown]

[empty shuttle]

Nah........ im at 271... and the highest progress pve in the bracket too

[swift mango]

Okay maybe I mistood you for someone else....

Sorry

[empty shuttle]

just 1 more burst gen nikke and everything should be way easier :/

[swift mango]

I spent 80 pulls for rumani lol

[empty shuttle]

I couldnt do the same. Now im suffering. I used to be in rank6-4 but now i got kicked to diamond 1 yesterday and almost couldnt get up

[swift mango]

Well I'm heavily invested on my pvp units though. All of them OL, sl4-5 at least. Scarlet 10-10-10. Emilia 10-10-8. Doll lv5.

My naga isn't even OL lol.

[empty shuttle]

Who should i prioritiz ol?

[swift mango]

The only one that's high invest in my roster and not pvp Nikke are DKW, Crown and Alice at max doll.

I still use DKW and crown in Attack team now.

[swift mango]

Element damage for CP.

Oh you mean OL gear, anyone in your defense team. Clip RL, SG and shit but that a waste to most people.

Especially Anis lol

[empty shuttle]

I have OL head and shirts for my RLs

For more HP idk

[swift mango]

Yeah, I OL all 4.

Alice is SS in arena Prydwen tier list but I have almost no use for her now. She is even worse than DKW to me.

[tropic summit]

alice takes so long to get going