pvp-arena

[mighty haven]

allg

[pliant carbon]

need some advice for noah/emilia in rookie

redhood + blanc couldnt one shot all of them

[mighty haven]

Shouldn't RH be where Emi is, if you want her to B3?

[pliant carbon]

Their Emi one shots my entire team unbuffed, my RH would just be stuck on their indom'd Noah and die.

So I RH buff a blanc Emilia hoping to one shot their entire team, and then win with Jackal/Emilia vs solo Noah

But Noise makes them too tanky to one shot, and for some reason all my 4 RL teams are proccing in 3 RL instead against them

[mighty haven]

[wicked horizon]

I'm pretty sure that's just strictly worse than using a team that's >30% higher CP though? 🤔
Edit: brain autocorrect strikes again

[uneven escarp]

can someone help me make a PVP team? Only meta units i have seem to be Jackal, Blanc, and Moran.
I have Emma but that's really it

[grizzled bone]

i think trying to 1 shot this team isn't the best strat unless you make a fast team

[mighty haven]

then you got to figure out balance of CP/RL speed

[uneven escarp]

i dont have enough units to do the 3 team arena

i need help

[grizzled bone]

blanc-sbs-liter-noir-jackal
moran-privaty/rei.a-mari-anis-pepper
crown-alice-bsoda-dkw-maiden

[uneven escarp]

and for Rookie?

[wicked horizon]

Ideal balance - Max CP, never burst.
For real though, as long as my campaign team is ahead enough.

But yeah, I was more looking for help in areas where I don't have enough units that are ahead.
I guess I could use your suggestion for the 2nd team in SPA attack...

[grizzled bone]

blanc-sbs-liter-anis-jackal

i do not recommend using def teams to attack

[keen vapor]

Blanc on P1

[uneven escarp]

why?

[keen vapor]

She could die

But also SBS if someone uses Rosanna

Also targeting will get from SBS to Blanc anyways if the positions were swapped

[uneven escarp]

what should i do instead?

[keen vapor]

Make her tanky

[grizzled bone]

you could do sbs-noir-liter-blanc-jackal instead if you're worried about your b2 dying

these team comps are only suggestions

[uneven escarp]

i dont understand pvp

[grizzled bone]

like mechanics?

have you tried reading the pins?

[uneven escarp]

i dont have half the meta units on the doc

[grizzled bone]

mmm then being familiar with the units you have and pvp mechanics would help

[keen vapor]

Chino

[umbral crown]

si

[final tendon]

scarlet is worth OL'ing since i'm still using her in pvp and campaign right?

i guess i already did half nvm then

[vapid lake]

Yes she's pvp meta

[final tendon]

i almost bought these bc im so close to getting the helmet to 5

[vapid lake]

Never ever buy those

Dont care how many thumbs up shiftup put there

[final tendon]

i knoooooow

[vapid lake]

They scamming u

[final tendon]

oh i can just do my si runs

[vapid lake]

I'm still scarletless my pvp bricked

[final tendon]

oh how i wish gloves weren't tied to stupid mirror container

[grizzled bone]

https://tenor.com/view/dew-it-galactic-republic-palpatine-gif-21847982

waste your creds

[mighty haven]

waste your creds and gems, I like it

[steady raft]

She is still amazing in campaign and pvp
My second highest cp nikke

[umbral crown]

Do not

[grizzled bone]

Scarlet is still very good but the focus has shifted from using her as your main dps in pve as she does well off-burst as well

[final tendon]

it's ok my friend broke the wall today after starting during rouge

[umbral crown]

Better send me your credits

[final tendon]

i was building her up for stupid crystal chamber

[raven plover]

wtf 190k

oh max SR doll?

[mighty haven]

Alt1 being a nuisance

[wild badge]

ya love to see it

[wet coyote]

Hello im looking for a new rookie team and sp teams if possible,

im also wondering is there a good counter team when attacking a Scarlet/Blanc/Red Hood/Centi/Jackal team ?

[crystal flicker]

The best way to counter that is using Noah, though you probably can try to cheese it with Bay's burst instead

and for rookie just use Scarlet Jackal lol

[umbral crown]

Rookie Defense:
Scarlet-Blanc-Red Hood-Centi-Jackal

SP Defense:
Scarlet-Bay-Liter-Noir-Jackal
Blanc-SBS-Red Hood-Centi-Pepper
Crown-Rapunzel-S.Anis-Drake-Noise

[keen vapor]

Bay

[final tendon]

i just did a manual arena and then it kicked me out on the 3rd fight ?

now im stuck

hope i didnt lose an attempt...

[wet coyote]

Alright, thanks, but if I already have my rookie team of Scarlet/Blanc/Red Hood/Centi/Jackal and they get defeated, does that mean I can't do anything better for now?

[umbral crown]

si

[umbral crown]

you could change it then

SBS for scarlet

[final tendon]

oh pog i won

[wet coyote]

what would the Bay team be since I don't have Noah?

[wet coyote]

okie ill try

[umbral crown]

[crystal flicker]

run her with faster or equal burst gen as scarlet jackal

and put her in save position (2/3/4), so her cover will stay intact

DPS can be RH or SBS, the other just burst gen filler

[wet coyote]

okay and what would you just suggest for the line up of the 5 characters ?

[deep phoenix]

who has the quicker burst gen time between laplace(gift), cent, anis

[crystal flicker]

Anis > Centi > Laplace

[crystal flicker]

Actually, just mirror their squad but with Bay instead of Blanc

Assume there's no deficit, Bay's Cover should protect the team from Scarlet Nuke

[wet coyote]

Okay, I’ll give that a shot. Thanks for your help, and sorry for bombarding you with all the questions!

[devout onyx]

thoughts on these two matchups

[keen vapor]

Why Scar there...

Also, I would swap them

[crystal flicker]

T1 just ded

[raven plover]

wait I seen that team yesterday

[keen vapor]

Team to weird for no reason

[raven plover]

scarlet, blanc, redhood, anis, jack work for that at least for the guy I helped yesterday

[devout onyx]

ope, just swap scarlet for burst gen-er then

[halcyon sinew]

in my bracket someone uses a team like that

where did they copy it from?

[raven plover]

the usual with centi but swap centi for laplas?

[halcyon sinew]

yeah

counters are easier

[keen vapor]

Why not use standard Scarlet team? you won't be using it against Laplace team anyways

[devout onyx]

ok will do, for t2 should i just use 2rl noah?

[halcyon sinew]

Yeh, also put biscuit there

[devout onyx]

thx guys won both

[storm quail]

Should I even bother with the SAnis team or just CP it

[gaunt sentinel]

man what a never ending battle for C5 btw @umbral crown my deff team is working.. for once then it still cooked

[graceful grotto]

The Sanis team is pretty decent but probably can get scarjack pretty quick, unless you find ways to tank it

[storm quail]

imma just use CP'd MG

[signal torrent]

Guys, look at this. The guy is 30 lvl above me and is cashing more to level up. When I started attacking, the difference between our lvls was 20. It's already 33. Now let's see how far he'll cash out. Hsushushsushus

[graceful grotto]

i dont think lvl is the biggest issue in terms of PVP, but the CP does pan out, good luck mate

[signal torrent]

I have a 130,000 cp difference, man, one thing I like about this pvp is that even if you have a little difference in cp or lvl, you have a chance to beat the guy if you use the right strategy.

but if you go over 150,000 cp it becomes almost impossible to win

[tribal nebula]

Hello everyone, I've been trying to beat this guy several times, but each time I miss one of the fights. Do you have an idea to beat two of these teams? I specify that I don't have X.Anne (my teams are at about 340k cp)

[signal torrent]

It's a good thing this guy is really bad at PVP, because he can only win based on cash.

[graceful grotto]

i was the other way round hahaha, i use to be very low lvl-ed based on the roaster i was arranged in PVP, but i think the others did not buy event token, so i ended up catching up to them

[signal torrent]

That's good for you, in mine here I made the guy cash a lot, I passed him and the next day he leveled up 15 levels, it gave a good feeling of helping the company huehueheuh

[graceful grotto]

Shift up thank you for your service good sir

[potent ermine]

@worn field @spiral onyx This is kit dead unit but maybe use in pvp

[spiral onyx]

There I made her usable

https://tenor.com/view/laugh-sad-cry-hug-gif-18646003

[potent ermine]

[spiral onyx]

maybe if she is miraculously a clip RL she'll be of use

[graceful grotto]

Wait do her taunt only works on burst mode wtheck

Budget noise

[spiral onyx]

worse than budget Noise

[hollow eagle]

she is clip RL, 3 clip reload in the preview vid

[spiral onyx]

this is literally anniversary bait

[graceful grotto]

Is 1 sec charged fast?

So she can generate high burst gen

[spiral onyx]

those videos tend not to be reliable, but if she is somehow clip RL, thats a whole different story

[graceful grotto]

Hmmmm that itself can be a win

[potent ermine]

She is

if she isn't

[spiral onyx]

clip RL = instant top tier, regardless of kit

[potent ermine]

then it a skip

[graceful grotto]

Top tier cause of burst gen?

[spiral onyx]

yes

[potent ermine]

yea

[spiral onyx]

a better Anis

[potent ermine]

a better centi

[spiral onyx]

just cause SSR instead of SR lol

[hollow eagle]

seems like clip yea

[spiral onyx]

hey, Centi actually has some (minor) value

[graceful grotto]

Yeah looks like clip

[spiral onyx]

all I see is a lack of butt jiggling

[graceful grotto]

But taunt on burst is so stupid

[spiral onyx]

its actually not bad for champion arena

[graceful grotto]

Normal atk multiplier though, is that good?

[potent ermine]

We got a barbells how about that

[spiral onyx]

no

[graceful grotto]

Barbell wrong position

[potent ermine]

her kit is literally useless everywhere except pvp

[graceful grotto]

Don't even know what's she's training lmao

[potent ermine]

Parts damage is worthless

[spiral onyx]

she's gonna literally be there for burst gen and helping pull aggro during burst

[graceful grotto]

Welp my pvp metaslave will pushed me to pull (no pun intended)

[spiral onyx]

if she is clip RL though, I'm gonna need to adjust my CA teams to fit her in

[crystal flicker]

Her S2 just... not fit for her role smh

[potent ermine]

it a pretty safe skip tbh

her only real thing is replacing Anis

[crystal flicker]

Which is great

[graceful grotto]

My Anis is in my 3rd team atm

I think I can relegate her to wishlist for now

[spiral onyx]

not really, you wouldn't want to replace Anis

even in SP Arena, you have 3 teams

and currently only 3 clip RLs

• Noah

[potent ermine]

Anis only matter when you suffering from Penalty

[crystal flicker]

Should I OL Anis for SP?

[spiral onyx]

adding in a 4th clip RL + Emilia8 is huge

[potent ermine]

Cinema

[graceful grotto]

I would if I have spare

[spiral onyx]

Jackal
Anis
Centi
Rumani
Noah
Emilia8

8 high burst gen units split across 3 teams

[graceful grotto]

B-b-but anni is coming tho

[potent ermine]

just skip

[crystal flicker]

Gotta wait for people review

[potent ermine]

im only doing 20 pulls

[graceful grotto]

Ngl great plan for shift up, they know the PVE player would not pull with anniversary so close, so they try to skee in PVP players since that's where most whales are at

[crystal flicker]

And then Anniv unit is PvP oriented lmao

[graceful grotto]

Imagine if we get clip RL pilgrim

[potent ermine]

ain'tnoway

[spiral onyx]

my review is gonna be pretty simple. Clip RL? S- tier just for the burst gen. Not clip RL? D tier, dont even bother

[spiral onyx]

Im pretty sure most whales dont really know much about PvP. Champion Arena might be a rude awakening for them lol

[pastel narwhal]

[spiral onyx]

Unless recycling room is not equalized. Then it'll be no different from SP Arena

[daring gust]

What ur nikke lvl now keripo

[spiral onyx]

Dunno, not in game, check for me

[potent ermine]

Okay

[spiral onyx]

Been too busy playing Throne & Liberty and Cat Fantasy the last few weeks/month to pay much attention to Nikke

[graceful grotto]

any suggestions on pvp changes if pull rumani?

[crystal flicker]

Either swap Crown or Alice out

[graceful grotto]

Gonna be a huge CP lost hahaha, well thanks!

[onyx scaffold]

I recently checking whales in my sub server. big amount of whales dont give a fk to pvp/raid

Sync 500 plus with frame I raid

[unreal latch]

isnt it other way around

[spiral onyx]

ok, I think I found a way to slot her into my teams

[graceful grotto]

I thought pulling dupes and what not are normally for PVP?

[spiral onyx]

but she's effectively just there to let me swap some Quantum cubes with other cubes

my current CA setup has no room for a budget Noise

[jolly maple]

dang it where's the lift during reload

[mighty haven]

getting invaded by thicc, booty, and feet

[daring gust]

What is emilia8

[jolly maple]

8% chrg spd emilia maybe

[gaunt sentinel]

guys i came to sow chaos in this SpA again, i should skip team 2 for this right ?

[mighty haven]

what defence is this

[gaunt sentinel]

scarlet revenge?

[graceful grotto]

The "one Noah is all you need" defense

[loud sonnet]

Ye skip T2

I think you need another taunter on T1

[graceful grotto]

T1 can be tricky tho since s.anis has 2 attack

[mighty haven]

I meant the Scarlet team, if I'm to attack

[gaunt sentinel]

but its noah noise

[graceful grotto]

Yeah

One Noah is all you need to win lol

[graceful grotto]

Sorry I meant t3

[gaunt sentinel]

swap with t1 eazy ....but scarlet...

welp i am lost

[graceful grotto]

Which team lost?

[hollow summit]

what's the meaning of emilia21?

[graceful grotto]

Emilia at 21% charge speed

[hollow summit]

how to obtain?

13% from skill, the rest?

ol gears?

[graceful grotto]

Yes

[raven plover]

yes

[young cape]

guys, Maiden or scarlet, Who charges faster？ I want to boost maiden instead ofscarlet

[hollow summit]

after checking

my emilia has lv10 skill, then ol gears give her bonus 7% (2 gears has 3,5% charge speed)

then should i put adjutant for remaining charge speed?

[raven plover]

burst gen wise its maiden since shes clip SG

[young cape]

fine thx

[graceful grotto]

You're pretty close though, any chance to use stones to change the existing charge speed into higher %?

[raven plover]

you can do that yea

[hollow summit]

i dont have remaining rocks unfortunately

keeping for anniv y
unit

[raven plover]

if you have spare might as well fish another line so you can use resi / vigor / quantum if needed

otherwise from my experience most of the time non emi21 works fine

[graceful grotto]

Anni unit not confirmed to be pilgrim yet or has it?

[mighty haven]

I'm going to laugh if these calculations end up being a 3/3 win

[raven plover]

nothing confirmed yea but so far all half anni and 1st anni are pilgrims

[mighty haven]

oh gdi they jumped ranks

drop

[graceful grotto]

Welp gonna start saving after I finished OL jackal

[graceful grotto]

Did we have a reshuffle?

[mighty haven]

no, I was just planning to attack C10, and then they got spanked by someone else

[graceful grotto]

[young cape]

😡

[mighty haven]

Time to deploy the defenses

[graceful grotto]

This ur second account?

[mighty haven]

3rd

[graceful grotto]

[mighty haven]

ooog scary I underestimated my T2 could die

[hushed ore]

-300 Rival

[graceful grotto]

I can't fathom spending gems, just to earn gem

[raven plover]

https://tenor.com/view/luna-terra-ust-message-money-gif-23530621

[mighty haven]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-office-dwight-fight-andy-gif-25043792

[umbral crown]

[gaunt sentinel]

need help attaking this team rosy i lost team 1 and 2 #pvp-arena message

[wise horizon]

left side is me, right side is enemy. looks ok? @raven plover

[potent ermine]

hmm?

[raven plover]

looks fine, is the enemy 2nd team scarlet black or normal scar

[wise horizon]

SBS

[potent ermine]

idek how to even use that to win matches

[mighty haven]

blursed, I need to fightback

[potent ermine]

imagine not having whale to fight

[crystal flicker]

Imagine fighting in SP

[raven plover]

I think team 2 will gonna be rng but we will see

maybe we can

put 1 unit on p5 for 1st team

2nd team noah, noise, biskit, sanis, emi / laplace / rapun

3rd team keep

[mighty haven]

1 down, another to go

[fathom gust]

For rookie arena...
Is it better to put RH instead of Liter there?
Liter have 3k more CP

[copper creek]

what happened to your old discord acc xd

[fathom gust]

Its gone... you noticed 🤭

This is my new one

[mighty haven]

smart PL with 2.5RL team

[potent ermine]

Stop being gone

[mighty haven]

200 gems, gdi

suddenly everyone wants to pick a fight

[halcyon sinew]

look.

[mighty haven]

pain, 3/4/5 won't dare attack 2nd, they'll target me instead

[halcyon sinew]

maybe here rank 1&2 ally, they don't attack each other

[mighty haven]

Me and 2nd have unspoken truce too

[fathom gust]

Is it the same guy?

[mighty haven]

Yah, way down for defense loss

[fathom gust]

Yeah this is the last time i dissapear 🤭

[fathom gust]

Lol.. so we are on the same group 👀

[halcyon sinew]

yeah

[fathom gust]

That guy is whale fr

[halcyon sinew]

he will join 321 f

[halcyon sinew]

more wahles

[fathom gust]

Lol.. well deserved

I can attack him btw... but he will attack me back..
The rest are kinda 50/50..
the 1st is untouchable for me

[halcyon sinew]

m4ws?

i skipp t2

[fathom gust]

Yes

He is the easier one to attack there tbh.. besides Coldstar

[fathom gust]

Who are you there btw 👀

[halcyon sinew]

cold star easy also

[fathom gust]

Lol not for me...
My cp is low

[halcyon sinew]

hmm

[fathom gust]

Butt before the bracket reset.. i got 1st...
Like 2 seasons ago

[halcyon sinew]

even have jackal?

[fathom gust]

Yeah i have jackal

[halcyon sinew]

i no have, but i can clap them

[quaint idol]

Which one has better b3 for pvp? Redhood or sbs?

[fathom gust]

I cant cook well...
But i can tell which one is good or not

[fathom gust]

Its fun to see pvp fellas here 🤭
Which one is yours btw

[halcyon sinew]

Pray for me to get a jackal this month

[fathom gust]

My Jackal even MLB

[halcyon sinew]

[raven plover]

[mighty haven]

RH

[potent ermine]

Teach me pvp again

[fathom gust]

RH burst is no joke yeah

[potent ermine]

Pog

[quaint idol]

Alright. Is RH better because of her aoe?

[potent ermine]

Now you can teach me

[fathom gust]

I think she have lifesteal too

[potent ermine]

Dew it

[mighty haven]

zixk is retired from pvp

[potent ermine]

For content

[fathom gust]

Sadge

Your cook will be remembered

[mighty haven]

maybe once Rumani comes out, due to B1 defender 20s clip RL

[halcyon sinew]

gems get 3k?

[mighty haven]

pvp mald best

[fathom gust]

Yessss..
I sniped coldstar 15 mins before reset

[fathom gust]

Awesome

But it was before bracket reset..
Like 2 seasons ago..
Idk why i cant attack him again

[mighty haven]

Reshuffle/same rank bracket?

[fathom gust]

Likee we have more new people

Yeah i can tell

[mighty haven]

If you need to rest, then that's more important then being mentally broken

[fathom gust]

Luckily i got cooked.. so im settled up... just need small adjustment

[potent ermine]

Teach

[halcyon sinew]

distrib of gems is calcu by acquisition of red chips

[potent ermine]

I can't read pin so show me how it work

[fathom gust]

Ohhhh really?
But i remember i got 3k

[halcyon sinew]

nice

i also get 3k

i rank 3, that season

[fathom gust]

Ohhhh i see..
I just know that

[potent ermine]

I don't know how to use graph halp

[fathom gust]

Thats something that we need to learn for long time

[potent ermine]

Every graph

[fathom gust]

To become remember

[potent ermine]

Burst gen excel how I use

[hollow summit]

why Emilia should have 21% charge speed?

idk how her charge speed works

[fathom gust]

Ohhh.. this is the chip that you talking about

[potent ermine]

I can't read

[fathom gust]

Sadge

[potent ermine]

what about team building

How to collect enough experience to beat the team I find in pvp with my pvp team

[worthy knoll]

Did they mess up with the CP numbers

[potent ermine]

I also need to build vigor cube

My emila MLB

She tankier than some of my unit that doesn't have ol kekw

[fathom gust]

I miss emilia...
My account bricked

[worthy knoll]

Somehow I feel like my CP on status screen got lowered than the cp showing to me before this day

The total team cp is showing correctly tho, just that the individual cp numbers on status screen is kinda weird right now

I thought so too but I restarted and its still the same

[potent ermine]

Don't even have scarlet or Noah

[worthy knoll]

Yeah before the total was lower than actual this time its the reverse

The total is higher than the actual (on nikke status page) individually and added

[mighty haven]

take careee

[fathom gust]

Noooooooo

[pastel narwhal]

[potent ermine]

Yap more so you get color back

[fathom gust]

Its gonna took a while

[halcyon sinew]

yeah

[fathom gust]

Gotcha!

[halcyon sinew]

when will you slap M4ws?

or cold star?

[fathom gust]

I went down from 8th..
Maybe next reset

[umbral crown]

i will help later, can not now.

[gaunt sentinel]

nah my atk is empty too

[halcyon sinew]

upgrade your Sync lv.281 to get additi CP

[fathom gust]

Yeassss it will greatly helps..
Hopefully tommorow..
Lastest in 2 days

[halcyon sinew]

C5

[tender valve]

https://tenor.com/view/sora-cooking-food-wars-shokugeki-no-soma-fire-gif-17443420

[pastel narwhal]

[fathom gust]

I saw you on C1 several times iirc

[fathom gust]

^someone please dont help him cook for beating my team

But i know i can be clapped already

[halcyon sinew]

I can cook atk

[fathom gust]

[halcyon sinew]

I saw your team earlier

[fathom gust]

Just attack them.. you can skip me

[halcyon sinew]

ofkor target m4ws and coldstar

[fathom gust]

Lol nice

Good luck!

[halcyon sinew]

wait, where your emilia?

[fathom gust]

Skipped

my account bricked

But i have a pretty good defense right

[halcyon sinew]

laplacs+?

[gaunt sentinel]

they need some very enticing reward if they want to made me serious about learning pvp then even, if that mean opening the damn permanent coming soon champion arena

[fathom gust]

Yessss laplace+
And i dont have rapunzel and emilia

[mighty haven]

Only issue about champion arena is competition will be people who've invested/rolled down units

[keen vapor]

I invested

[halcyon sinew]

i dun have lap+

[fathom gust]

She is solid burst gen and high CP due max dolls

[halcyon sinew]

nah ic

but my lap is lb0

[fathom gust]

Ohhh.. i forgot mlb is needed too

[keen vapor]

Limit break 2*

[fathom gust]

Limit break 2*?

[keen vapor]

Yes, only two stars

Not 3

[fathom gust]

Ohhh i see then

[umbral crown]

i trust NewMeta to be a whale who knows pvp

[umbral crown]

emiless

🧱

[thorny sequoia]

New Nikke Rumani, at least according to the write-up, sounds to be very strong for PvP IMO

[umbral crown]

break limit two

break two limit

[thorny sequoia]

Even though I want to save gems, might have to pull for her 😭😆

[fathom gust]

Yeasss bricked af

Who can "replace" emilia?
I currently use Ein as B3 on my defense team

[keen vapor]

Laplace with treasure

[fathom gust]

Ohhhhh... she is the best replacement?
Lemme seee my defense team

I use her on SAnis team instead

• Jackal/Scarlet/SBS/Tia/Naga
• Blanc/Ein/RH/Noir/Centi
• Noah/Noise/SAnis/Biscuit/Laplace+

Idk if you prefer picture or text

I dont have Emilia and Rapunzel

[fathom gust]

Wtfff... i just realise M4WS sync 319....

A real whale.. or heavily misplaced

[crystal flicker]

The CP diff...

[halcyon sinew]

but you can still kill him

[fathom gust]

On rookie arena, he is untouchable

[fathom gust]

Yeahh.. thankfully he isnt smart to make defense team..
Or less invested, idk

[halcyon sinew]

if I look, he's less invested

and T3 looks Auto

[fathom gust]

It seems so..
Less invested..
But on rookie arena

[halcyon sinew]

lemme see

I'm not there

[crystal flicker]

Yeh

[umbral crown]

319 with that cp? thats some real skill issues

[fathom gust]

Yeahhh ikrrr

[umbral crown]

im 266 with 965k

[fathom gust]

Thats highhhh

[umbral crown]

kinda

[fathom gust]

Im 900k 280

[umbral crown]

[fathom gust]

My scarlet only have 2 OL..

And most of them are have 2 as well

[halcyon sinew]

so many MLB and Core 234 but like that

[umbral crown]

in my bracket there are some 284 levels with 1m cp and few more at 960-980k

[umbral crown]

[fathom gust]

Mine is low fr

[umbral crown]

so if i were in level range would be ez

[fathom gust]

2nd lowest at top 10

[fathom gust]

Indeed

[umbral crown]

[halcyon sinew]

🐳

[umbral crown]

[fathom gust]

Awesomee..
Your bracket arent bad too

[umbral crown]

yeah, we kinda similar cp

just some have almost 20 more levels

[fathom gust]

Mine have 39 level gap with M4WS

Only him tho

Ill focus more on OLing my arena team after anniv..
Went to 3 OL

[umbral crown]

you should OL all your pvp units

thats where the boost comes from

dolls and skills as well

you maybe missing some max dolls

[mighty haven]

Save me @umbral crown

[halcyon sinew]

you spend gems

[mighty haven]

Wah, I'm getting the 4 RL treatment

[mighty haven]

First one misjudged CP gap, second one their RH somehow survived Indom

[umbral crown]

meaning ppull rumanji if she s clip rL

[mighty haven]

I have 200 pulls saved

[lunar dirge]

should I show mine?

[fathom gust]

Yeahh ill try to..
Its gonna be a long journey

[fathom gust]

You are welcome to do so 👀

[umbral crown]

yes, we need an update

moyna maybe got some boost

[umbral crown]

[mighty haven]

I will pull Rumani, and you're famous

[umbral crown]

waos

its about sending a message bois

[umbral crown]

and gurls

[mighty haven]

https://youtu.be/25sBhhOR4lw?si=ZH_Oin7bZ8X2qHvk

[mighty haven]

How quickly do you die fighting C1

[lunar dirge]

yes.

[umbral crown]

si

[fathom gust]

The F

[umbral crown]

keripos possible rival

[fathom gust]

My goshhh howwwww

[umbral crown]

💳

[fathom gust]

Almost double level..
He is def a leviathan

He is the funder of our game

[umbral crown]

imagine 601 boost

[lunar dirge]

+300k CP for him

[fathom gust]

Nobody can touch him right

[umbral crown]

we gonna get there... in 2030

[fathom gust]

Exactly

And he will be 900

[lunar dirge]

top 2 is 1,75m, top is 3 and 90 levels higher than me is 1,3m and 30 levels higher than me

[fathom gust]

Good job staying at challenger 4..
It seems some people have really inflated pools

My jaw dropped.. lmao

[lunar dirge]

I have 2 ppl with high invest Rosanna, laplace+ and viper+

And 21% emi

[fathom gust]

You sync 300 and you got those people on your pools

Awesome

Isnt pools just reset sometimes ago

[umbral crown]

90?

[lunar dirge]

I got c3 last reset

[lunar dirge]

Ye, 390 or a bit more iirc

[fathom gust]

Awesome! Lmao

My pool arent bad at all it seems..
Just one whale..
A small fish compared with your first

[mighty haven]

Whale? where

[umbral crown]

koyomi shjowing the way

[wicked horizon]

So, can anyone help with new SPA defense teams?

Or, like, alternatively, what's the process for making a team myself?

Like, where do I start? (Yes, I read the guides in the pins.)

[fathom gust]

The gap is real

[fossil niche]

I'm biased, but Noah - Noise - Sanis - Biscuit - Jackal is a great team

[summer copper]

well that's 1 team out of 3 and you've used up some major units

[wicked horizon]

Yeah...

I'm curious why there isn't (at least I couldn't find one) a team building guide pinned? Has no one made one? There's guides which cover all the other aspects, and go very deep into even niche arena mechanics, but nothing that lays out even basic steps to assembling your own teams?
(I did find some with pre-made teams, but those are not all that useful if you don't understand why the guide creator chose those characters to make a team, and you perhaps don't have every single meta character.)

[fossil niche]

Leaves still Scarlet Blanc etc. teams wide open, so could either go for an annoying Sanis team or full scarlet

[limber barn]

Привет всем

[fossil niche]

But each to their own ig

[mighty haven]

Blanc/Scarlet/Liter/Centi/Jackal
Noah/Noise/SAnis/Biscuit/Rapunzel
Pepper/Anis/BSoda/Noir/Maiden

@wicked horizon

[wicked horizon]

😔
Thank you

Perhaps one day I will divine the secrets of team building.

[mighty haven]

Quantum cubes on Centi and Jackal, if L2/3 - once 4, can also put on Anis

If you feel T3 is slow, you can swap Anis with Centi in T1 (same position) and leave Quantum cube on Centi

Can't give you an exact RL calc, though each team should be 3RL

[wicked horizon]

At least that's something I think I know how to do. I can check.

[mighty haven]

Making a 2.5/2RL team would weaken one or two others

[wicked horizon]

Is that the first thing you consider? Making all teams as fast as possible?

Or do you start with like a good burst unit to kill the enemy team and build around that?

[mighty haven]

Depends on your CP - because attack you only need to build two good teams to win

Defence you need to balance things out, or you make two good teams and then auto the last so that it makes a team with best CP

Other players would need to make sure they're within 15.4% deficit if your CP is high enough, so they don't automatically get a 20% stat penalty

Same goes for if you're attacking someone else

[wicked horizon]

I know the uh... theoretical stuff of the arena. That's all in the pins which I read. 😅
But how did you make the teams?

[gaunt cypress]

fixed sync level, when

[mighty haven]

Looked at your screenshot, based off my experience with my accounts and teams, and general sussing

[wicked horizon]

Okay, mostly intuiton then?

Well, fair enough.

[mighty haven]

When you have 3 accounts...yeah

I'm not the best cook mind

[pastel narwhal]

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/pvp-sp-arena have you read this one yet?

[mighty haven]

Veterans here will tell you of more craziness, newer players don't have to deal with Emilia/built Rosannas

A built Emilia with 21% (?) Charge Speed generates burst faster than Jackal

[wicked horizon]

Well, I was sadly around when Emilia was released.

[wicked horizon]

I have, but I will read it again.
It seemed at least somewhat out of date, at least on the units list.

[mighty haven]

The only PvP collab meta unit

[pastel narwhal]

yeah, even Power still in there but the basics are there

[mighty haven]

Tbf, a protected Rei A. can also nuke, however Ein does that job with a better RL speed

I spent maybe 1-2 hours malding over SPA on 2 accounts

[pastel narwhal]

Generally you choose your burst3(s) to build on, pick how will you defend key areas of the team like position1 etc, then pick your burst gen units.

Recommended to use the burst gen calculator and of course understanding of ea nikke's skills you'll be using. They keep on releasing new units with unique skills that's why things can get a bit messy with so many shenanigans

[mighty haven]

Everyone saying Rumani giving everyone with Emilia now able to make 1 2.5 RL team, and 2 x 2 RLs

it's going to be fun watching those fireworks

[wicked horizon]

Sounds fun indeed.

On that note, one thing I didn't find (or missed) was - do characters burst immediately, or is there a noticeable amount of time between energy being ready and B3 going off?

Like, if I'm .5RL late, can some character's B1 still activate before / at the same time as the enemy's B3?

[pastel narwhal]

there is some delay, like ex this sample from gatrix calc, useful for catching with noah shield

[fallow nebula]

I took this team vs an emilia jackal team and i couldnt invuln the emilia blast what is wrong?

Blanc biscuit emilia rh jacksl

[keen vapor]

She fired against Noah or noise?

[fallow nebula]

What?

Theres three different taunters idk who got hit

[keen vapor]

you didn't record it?

[fallow nebula]

I wanna know why noah didnt block it

I watched emilia nuke my team

[keen vapor]

There's so many variables

Like, targeting changing RL speed of teams and such

Can't know for sure

[fallow nebula]

They have jackal and i dont thats a huge burst gen diff

[keen vapor]

Record please

[fallow nebula]

Tommorrow

[upper zephyr]

What lineup should i run if i want to beat a team of liter, rh, crown, emilia, scarlet?

[mighty haven]

In that order, so their RH is first B2 + B3?

[upper zephyr]

Their exact lineup is crown, scarlet, rh, liter, emilia

[mighty haven]

RH/Crown/Scarlet...double damage buff + shield

[upper zephyr]

I dont have rh currently but do have crown and scarlet

[mighty haven]

What's the CP, and I take it you have everyone but RH?

[fathom rock]

Jackal sure sounds like an ez win here if you have her

[stiff rapids]

Guys, help me build a defense team

I mean 3 defense team

[upper zephyr]

I do have jackal

[mighty haven]

Because that team basically has no RL, a Noah/Noise/SAnis/Biscuit/Jackal team should deal with them

[stiff rapids]

Help!

[upper zephyr]

I have all of them so just build them up and bully that person then?

[mighty haven]

Put them in team, then see what their CP is vs your team CP

[fathom rock]

@keen vapor you know more about pvp than me help him

[mighty haven]

If within 15.4% deficit, jackpot

[upper zephyr]

Mine is 209611 theres is 288838

[stiff rapids]

Doesn't matter I trust you

[upper zephyr]

But only noah is really built, so i can put a bit of effort into the others and should be able to sort that out

[fathom rock]

I don't trust myself with my pvp knowledge yet I barely know some basics

[stiff rapids]

Still better than me, so help

[mighty haven]

See what you can do to make your own CP 245k

You can swap Rapunzel for, say, Naga

27% deficit your team is already 50% less stats

[fathom rock]

Scarlet/blanc/centi/anis/jackal
Noah/noise/rapunzel/sanis/biscuit
Priv/laplace treasure/xanne/pepper/noir

[stiff rapids]

Thanks, I hope your comp will not disappoint me

If I fail, it's on you

[strange linden]

Is Emilia8 really that big as a change for pvp? Ngl I was pretty lucky on her OL stats so she has quite a big amount of CP, I'll probably lose a lot if I decide to change it

[mighty haven]

her burst gen is off the charts once you get her 21% CS

[rare dew]

SP arena team comp please, i dont know who to put and just keep losin

[strange linden]

wait do you need 21% CS or 8%?

[mighty haven]

Try->
Tia/Anis/Ein/Liter/Maiden - Quantum cube on Anis if available
Noise/Pepper/SAnis/Biscuit/Mpriv
Just use auto to get strongest CP remaining, or ---> Vesti/N102/Drake/Naga/Laplace

[mighty haven]

might just be 8%

[strange linden]

I actually have more than 8%, I didn't even noticed it

[mighty haven]

Emilia S1 at 10 + 8% CS = 2.5RL, if CS is at 24.7% then 2RL

[umbral crown]

Need to be more active her then

[fathom rock]

learning more slowly

[mighty haven]

<---- do not trust me with PvP cooking

[keen vapor]

←-- Self proclaimed PVP joke

[mighty haven]

haiz

[keen vapor]

I'm quite popular in Challenger

[zinc goblet]

can i have your autograph?

[keen vapor]

Why

[zinc goblet]

you are popular and my oshi in ranked

[keen vapor]

[storm quail]

No one attacked me yet after I upgraded 10 level in 1 day

[mighty haven]

@keen vapor how has my advice been actually

[halcyon sinew]

@fathom gust ooh bro, u drop C6

[keen vapor]

Please accept this as my signature

[zinc goblet]

thank you ill keep this until the day i die

[keen vapor]

I'm too low CP :deadge:

[keen vapor]

Use it to refrain from impure thoughts

[mighty haven]

My bracket are going to wonder who just wandered into C7 (C5 orig, can't fight to take back though)

[halcyon sinew]

Nyam nyam u can take C2

[keen vapor]

True : Blanc nod:

[mighty haven]

too much malding against these heavier spenders, they CP gap me over the 15.4% deficit on at least 2/3 teams

[keen vapor]

But have you tried ?

[storm quail]

Old times

[halcyon sinew]

Yah, especially upgrading Counter team first

[keen vapor]

Name

[mighty haven]

we'll soon find out

[keen vapor]

Goodbye maid Privaty

Enemy so slow

[final tendon]

who tf is that 934k guy jeez

[mighty haven]

that was what I was banking on

[final tendon]

i should have asked here about the 2 arena i did earlier i was so confident i'd win and then i got clapped

[mighty haven]

now do I dare go again

[keen vapor]

Man, attacks are my only specialty

[keen vapor]

Is safer to snipe back at reset

[mighty haven]

I have work in a couple hours

[keen vapor]

Reset is in 20 hours tho...

[mighty haven]

watch this go up in smoke

4RL vs 4RL Noah, 3RL Scarlet vs 3RL Rei

zing

[mighty haven]

A whale

[keen vapor]

I can beat it :hue hue:

[mighty haven]

Both my NA Alts have a resident PvP whale

but yah I leave it here

[keen vapor]

Strong

[mighty haven]

too strongk

the 209 -> 222 jump helped

[keen vapor]

Surely levels will help me

[mighty haven]

This is going to be short lived, I can see Raziel + Rath coming back with a vengeance later

[mighty haven]

Only things that will help me are Rumani + Centi + Rapunzel

[keen vapor]

Why you have no name

[mighty haven]

I did set one, like "Estine" or something

And then when I logged off the game and came back, this was the nickname it spat out

So I went "eh" let people think I'm a bot

whats more funny is whale is HIGHER CP than my main

[keen vapor]

Shift Up worker

[keen vapor]

Not higher than me

[mighty haven]

and they cleared normal campaign ofc

[keen vapor]

He's on chapter 19 ?

I accept my defeat

I got beaten up by whales again

[mighty haven]

This account was started mid July - thats 3 months

[keen vapor]

:deadge:

1 year of progress in 3 months, too much money wasted

[mighty haven]

if people like what they see....

[keen vapor]

[fathom gust]

Im at 3rd now 🤭
i also gains close to 30k after 281... lmao

I dont expect that rise significantly...
I gains 10k CP per team

[fathom gust]

I started at feb and we are on the same power.. lol...
Im not even clearing campaign yet, but im on the last chapter (just need to push it)

Whale is real

[mighty haven]

kek, I'm at 32-33 as well on normal....except 249 sync + 325k CP max team

[fathom gust]

You really push it well

I just got my 281 today

[final tendon]

why do you have a bot name

[fathom gust]

But that guy is real whale fr

[halcyon sinew]

[mighty haven]

nah, peeps on Nikke commcord told me my 25% CP deficit clear of 32-32 was nothing

Compare to people doing it at 35-40%

[mighty haven]

the game bugged on me, im not going to argue

[fathom gust]

Ill do story for sure now..
I def can clear it with 400k power

[mighty haven]

easy, last boss is 452k cp

....no wait, 412k

[fathom gust]

Lol... should be..
Whos your main team?

[mighty haven]

It's going to be Crown/Ein/RH/Rouge/Naga....if I don't need heals, then SAnis over Naga

Otherwise, Crown/Asuka/RH/Alice/Naga or DKW

[halcyon sinew]

@fathom gust M4ws was online when I hit him but he didn't hit back

[fathom gust]

Loll

[fathom gust]

Ohhh i see...
Im using Crown, Liter, SBS, Alice, Naga..
Cant switch them.... i can slot RH over SBS

[mighty haven]

No point, Alice buffs SBS

[fathom gust]

He might need some adjustment to attack me now, since i got good CP boost

[fathom gust]

True.. altho i like RH burst more

[halcyon sinew]

But he would still hit me later

[fathom gust]

Maybe ill try to attack coldstar now

Not sure

[subtle pilot]

Hey all! Finally got SBS and just wondering where (if at all) to slot her in.

Current teams are:
Blanc/Emilia/RH/Noir/Centi
Scarlet/Sugar/Liter/Poli/Jackal
Noah/Noise/Anis/Biscuit/Laplace (Special Item)

[halcyon sinew]

Save for atk later

Maybe fig will atk back

[fathom gust]

Lol

This cp gains def helps

[halcyon sinew]

Then, lemme wait FIG kill COLDSTAR

[final tendon]

actually i dont have to stress about pvp bc i'm not getting rank 10 or above so i'm just chilling between 10 -30

nice

[halcyon sinew]

Before the Bricket merge, I even chilled In C1

[fathom gust]

Lol.. lets see...
I actually use one gems to switch betwee my attack team and it works..
But i have no attack left now, so its okay

[halcyon sinew]

I buy 4 coins yesterday

I'll save, for a new unit

[fathom gust]

Ohhh.. i wonder if she helps

[halcyon sinew]

Ah, actually need for jackal pos, for me

[umbral crown]

Nice

[umbral crown]

Waos

[umbral crown]

Whale

[fathom gust]

Ahhh yeahh..
If you have Jackal, its gonna be great

[keen vapor]

Is not enough for 2.7k gems :deadge:

[crystal flicker]

Liter out, even better if you use Regular Anis instead and try to maintain the cp gap

[subtle pilot]

replace liter with SBS in the same position? and where would regular anis go?

for context these are the teams recommended to me by @copper creek

[storm quail]

Got him

[rustic sandal]

Hello guys~ New to the discord and just wanted to ask what's the best DEF team I could make with my current roster? Thanks in advance!

[umbral crown]

Skill isssues

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

Show all your nikkes

[keen vapor]

That's all

[umbral crown]

Is it

[keen vapor]

There's neither welfare unit visible

[keen vapor]

..... Ok, you right

He has my synchro

[umbral crown]

Yours? You are 288

[keen vapor]

not if I didn't hoard

[umbral crown]

Whata your current level?

[keen vapor]

290...

I need more campaign cleared up

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Gogo

[keen vapor]

I got killed in 18-18 I don't have the energy

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Abathur has never got to C1 Challenger is going crazy this season!

[graceful grotto]

i always fight for rank 2-3 instead of 1 hahaha

cause rank 4 players will always target rank 1

[copper creek]

i dont help in this server anymore, pls ask in another server

[vapid lake]

Bro's named after a starcraft character of course he's super tryhard

[halcyon sinew]

..

[subtle pilot]

oh no problem, what server should I ask in? Only in this one at the moment

[keen vapor]

Help, I don't get what happened

[vapid lake]

I'm not the pvp tryhard u are

I dont know how to help u

[keen vapor]

WHAT HAPPENED TO BLANC INDOM

THIS IS ILLEGAL

[vapid lake]

https://media.tenor.com/Z-Q1S86XTrcAAAAj/peepo-peepobye.gif

[fathom gust]

Lol sadge

Why meee.. not you 🥲

[halcyon sinew]

FIG sent a message back

[dapper blade]

Hey guys. What’s a strong S.Anis team that doesn’t include Rapunzel? I’m yet to get her

PvP defense team

[graceful grotto]

You can go for the Blanc x Biscuit combo

Or a Noah to prevent Scarjack from nuking S.anis

[dapper blade]

Ahhh Noah. Okay thanks much

[covert lintel]

maybe scarlet died at the same time as blanc's burst active
i think change scarlet's position to p2 will fix it

[keen vapor]

I was going to send email to say he was hacker

But you right, thank you, now I understand

[fathom gust]

You mean he is here?

[copper creek]

generally for pvp help i advise to ask in commcord, all the people who actually know arena will help there instead

[halcyon sinew]

idk

[graceful grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

this is what he meant when he say message, not literally messaging in cord lol

[rose zephyr]

:3c wondering what I could do to beat this team if I can't off of lvl already

[loud sonnet]

Should i go aim for ammo for scarlet or this is enough?

[whole shell]

drunk scarlet?

[loud sonnet]

Ye

[whole shell]

ammo >>> ele >= atk > everything else

ammo should be first priority

[loud sonnet]

Even in pvp?

[whole shell]

otherwise enjoy doing nothing for 2.3 seconds every 2-ish seconds

1.66 seconds to be precise

[whole shell]

she should have at least 50 ammo to fully stack up S1 to buff her nuke

[pastel owl]

i think she usually burst sooner than being able to shot 50 bullets

[whole shell]

50/12 is 4.16 seconds

assuming regular 3RL team she has time to stack up to 5 stacks

with no ammo she shoots 20 shots + reloading in 3.96, with only 2 stacks

she could probably get in another stack or 2 before she bursts, but not having max stack gimps her max damage potential

[loud sonnet]

I shouldn't have change it without asking first

[torn osprey]

just unlocked 2nd type of arena,,, can someone help me make all three rounds for offense

[covert lintel]

but isn't low ammo scarlet make opponent whiffing more often?

[whole shell]

that's pretty advanced tech tbh

you still get some ammo lines though iirc

[umbral crown]

SP Defense:
Blanc-Scarlet-Rogue-Noir-Vesti
Noah-Rei-Pepper-Biscuit-Anis
Tia-Bay-Dwife-Maid Privaty-Poli-Crown

[rich quail]

Fought with cp deficit
Your Scarlet has 20 bullets for ammo
You deserved to get smoked

https://tenor.com/view/noah-laugh-nikke-pilgrim-kusogaki-gacha-game-gif-16829301136255588421

[torn osprey]

same for offense?

[rich quail]

The 20 bullets for Scar is an inside joke btw

We make fun of Echo because he apparently doesn’t believe in max ammo lines for Scarlet

[lean sphinx]

I would assume these are fairly consistent attack teams, right?

[mighty haven]

777 stopped attacking me

so they took it out on 3rd instead

[dim warren]

I wonder if someone can cook me 3 team for the special arena?

These are the ones that i dont have

[rich quail]

To help out the people who assist here a lot more, please send your screencaps of your roster sorted by Power (default setting), and screen orientation set to horizontal (go to Settings screen, then Others > select “horizontal” from the bottom option.

This helps because we can clearly see your most invested units

[dim warren]

so is not a good idea to like invest from zero?

since i notice pvp units and raid are quite different

[rich quail]

You do need some investment, yes

[dim warren]

sec let me take some ss

[rich quail]

Thank you

[dim warren]

is this good enough?

[rich quail]

Perfect

Someone will tag you and help you out soon

[dim warren]

[gaunt sentinel]

oh man

what an eventfull spa

[pastel narwhal]

[umbral crown]

Not really but for now should be fine

[raven plover]

[wild patio]

But still no noah...

https://tenor.com/view/silent-hill-silent-hill2-james-sunderland-sad-depressed-gif-27628054

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/noah-laugh-nikke-pilgrim-kusogaki-gacha-game-gif-16829301136255588421

[storm quail]

This is me fr

[mighty haven]

How my alt bracket feels

[muted stag]

win?

[rich quail]

It’s pretty risky because you’re over the cp threshold

But I would do it
Just me opinion

Positioning I would fix though
Noah/Biscuit/SBS/Centi/Jackal

[gaunt cypress]

14,2% deficit

[rich quail]

My bad

New glasses

deficit is fine

[mighty haven]

209 sync to 222 sync, so much power

[umbral crown]

Thats me literally

[mighty haven]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-heathledger-clout-message-sendingamessage-gif-22113585

[oak rivet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956168996405805076/1295487802489835560/1727586473067658.gif

[storm quail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067859961964658689/1281150767776137237/Snow-White-Scarlet-Eat.gif

[oak rivet]

noooo

[pastel narwhal]

[rich quail]

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

[fathom rock]

Emote pvp arena I see

[umbral crown]

go for c1 and show us some pvp content

[fathom rock]

C1 player is a whale, can aim for c2 tho

[umbral crown]

go c2

its about time to send a message

https://tenor.com/view/the-dark-knight-its-about-sending-a-message-joker-heath-ledger-the-joker-gif-18201880

[fathom rock]

Yeah just broke through the annoying scarlet team yesterday so gonna beat the guy at c3 next

My only takeaway is that I should ol biscuit soon

[umbral crown]

why not noah at P1?

your team was not fast enough to block rosanna burst

[fathom rock]

Can't 1.5rl cuz not enough invest, noah at p1 dies and doesn't burst, put laplace and Emilia leftmost for them to get targeted by rossana

[umbral crown]

is your Noah that weak? give her some more love. and you do not need a 1.5 RL team, you need to aim for 2 RL with noah and if you feel she will die, add biscuit

your team is practically 40/50 to win

[fathom rock]

Yeah which is why my takeaway was ol biscuit

[umbral crown]

but even that will you be in cp deficit?

[fathom rock]

I'm always in deficit they already reach the lvl breakpoint before me and have a decent sum of dupes

Just oling noah and biscuit is already a lot of extra cp, my only pvp unit with pl is jackal and she has 40% hitrate or something like that

[umbral crown]

i see your units need lot of work

and whats the level of your rivals and yours

[fathom rock]

301 vs 291, except 1st place almost breaking 400 soon

[umbral crown]

291 vs 301 should not be a big deal

my rivals are 286 and i am 267

they still lose

[fathom rock]

Yeah I'm beating most of those 301 except the 2nd place who invested in pvp and I didn't

[umbral crown]

thats investment issues then

you have units with max doll?

[fathom rock]

Still recovering from the alice incident, only sr15 units are sbs/rh/alice/laplace treasure

It's indeed a rock issue as I believe most pvp units don't need much skill manuals

Just gotta ol

[umbral crown]

oh, but you shouldn be fine then

even against that boy there is always a way to win

i just have 3 max doll: Rosanna,Viper+ and Moran

[fathom rock]

And on a side note I'm scarletless so I'm gonna 7/1/7 maiden soon

[umbral crown]

you have maid privaty as well

[fathom rock]

Doesn't maiden have better burst regen, and I can run alice in 2nd comp?
Or should I ignore maiden and just keep using rei

[umbral crown]

and units not as good as scarlet but Ssakura,Ein, and some more

[fathom rock]

Ssakura actually good?

[umbral crown]

she is, needs 2 buffers to work and batteries to burst on time

maiden needs to be P1 and also jackal

[fathom rock]

Would ein be better

[umbral crown]

than Ssakura? probably but will depend the team since Ssakura is Wind and Ein Electric

Ein also needs 2 buffers

which there a not not many

[fathom rock]

Ok ig maiden and mpriv it is

[umbral crown]

yep

whats your current defense?

[fathom rock]

Boy you are gonna have a decent laugh

[umbral crown]

you really need to ajust your teams

full electric teamsomeone go with string iron and you are done

[fathom rock]

I can replace t1 with cp pad, teams gonna be cursed bc I'm trying to balance cp padding with good teams and don't have pvp units invested, atleast those teams seem to work at keeping me in challenger

[umbral crown]

let me see your box

cp pad at your sync is not recommended

i could just do an actual team around that cp and you are gone

in horizontal shorted by power

[fathom rock]

I can guarantee you if I switch defense teams to meta units I'll be back to diamond cuz everyone just gonna cp gap my teams

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

why, whats your overal cp witrh your current defense

[fathom rock]

~946k
For example using a stall biscuit comp with sanis will have around 200k cp

Which means they can beat it with a campaign team

[umbral crown]

for your sync is low, but your focus is pve or pvp

[vapid lake]

nice try rats, attacking me while i was sleeping

[fathom rock]

Gonna finish sg team then completely switch to pvp

[vapid lake]

[umbral crown]

[fathom rock]

Stonks

[umbral crown]

your campaign team over 400k?

retro

[fathom rock]

Barely

Sometimes below by a bit due to stage needing less invested units

[vapid lake]

it's my turn

i'm the rat now

[umbral crown]

now c1

[vapid lake]

no more attacks

[umbral crown]

100 gems

[vapid lake]

anniversary

[umbral crown]

you will get just copy, ez

[umbral crown]

will try to give you something different

Ein investment?

[fathom rock]

7/7/7 with eh ol

[umbral crown]

i see, alice i imagine 10/7/10

[vapid lake]

one day i will get og scarlet and i can actually build a team🧱

[fathom rock]

10/4/10

[umbral crown]

good

[umbral crown]

yeah but even so you can make good teams without her

[umbral crown]

SP Defense:
Blanc/Emilia/Red Hood/Maxwell/Noir
Noah/Noise/S.Anis/Biscuit/SBS
Crown/Ein/Laplace+/Centi/Jackal

Emilia 4/7/7
S.Anis 7/7/9 or 10/10/9 Cube Resilence mandatory
Jackal and Centi Give quatum cube
Give Ein Vigor or Temperance

tell me your cp with these comps

[fathom rock]

sanis is 7/10/9 one sec lemme check

[vapid lake]

i just make sure each team have 2 RL and rest are just cp gap, the only purely pvp dedicated unit i have OLed is jackal
my sanis is 4/4/4 so she can't do anything in pvp

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Send your box in horizontal mode shorted bybpower only

I can not see my beloved Ein there without buffers

[fathom rock]

Pre cube preparing

[vapid lake]

everything below after SBS doesn't have OL

putting them in will drop my team into deficit

[umbral crown]

You have more cp now, right?

[umbral crown]

Whats your overall cp in sp?

[fathom rock]

862k total

[vapid lake]

c2 is me

[umbral crown]

Kinda low but you have know optimal teams that will burst on time

Give a try for 1 or 2 days

[fathom rock]

And one of them is gonna die from cp gap probably, thanks ill see how well that preforms and report back

[umbral crown]

Because look

C2 has 1m already

he is 286 and im 267

[fathom rock]

Pretty cool

[umbral crown]

if you can make optimal teams even when fighting against cp pad teams there is a high chance for you to win