pvp-arena

[thorn pagoda]

Apparently

No more spending

That’s almost the price of a PS5

[grizzled bone]

in pounds too. That hurts

[vapid lake]

better than spending it on a ps5

[thorn pagoda]

Especially with the way Sony is going

[vapid lake]

support SU with ur money better than supporting sony

[grizzled bone]

when did you start playing Hunt?

[thorn pagoda]

Nearly £500 since May. that’s some serious mental illness
Need to stop

[grizzled bone]

[thorn pagoda]

February 2024 when re zero collab came out

Initially as free to play, then someone reported my username in pvp arena so I started spending to make it to the top to spite them

[vapid lake]

maybe u can use this guy's technique
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/313526032533553163/1252555424167624704/image0.png?ex=670300e4&is=6701af64&hm=3ef94a7127f59c486e2a348a5ed5b19de33635eeaaf2347ecda2265e5805ac11&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=455&height=703&

[grizzled bone]

your username?

[thorn pagoda]

it was "卐卐卐"

[thorn pagoda]

No more spending on NIKKE unless it’s an event pass costume
Anything else is a waste

[grizzled bone]

even those are hard to argue their worthiness

but hey, spend on what you enjoy

[thorn pagoda]

That’s true too

[peak fjord]

Wow thank you

[covert lintel]

just annoy cash player to use diamond on sp arena, so whenever he buy pack you contributed indirectly

[junior briar]

set up Noah biscuit RH SBS crown and calc CP%

[muted stag]

Lvl 11 cube all

[junior briar]

calc cp on your own

[muted stag]

Against which team

[rustic sandal]

thank you ^^

im planning to switch maiden to Summer Anis cause my maiden is not that invested but my summer anis is

[unique wagon]

Just Scarlet T3 or T1, and run it down with SG for Team 2.

[muted stag]

Cp tho

[unique wagon]

Huh

[muted stag]

Cp deficit

[unique wagon]

Huh

[unique wagon]

Send full box

[muted stag]

I have all units some just not synchro up

[rustic sandal]

Is there a prio order for PvP units? (Order to build)

[unique wagon]

Bros privm and bsoda are dead

[muted stag]

I have them OL and skill up just didn’t synchro

[lunar dirge]

my way

[mighty haven]

NA alts have been stable 2k-2.4k gems this EOS

[median sigil]

Can anyone give suggestions for special areana pvp defense?

[umbral crown]

[mystic sluice]

고수들 많으시네요

[grizzled bone]

Check the tier lists sorted for PvP to get an idea

[modest sparrow]

is there a good counter to a Noah/Biscuit/Emilia/RH/Jackal team?

[final tendon]

which one are you

[grizzled bone]

Not really

[mystic sluice]

how did you understand

[grizzled bone]

Problem with emi teams is you want to kill them fast enough so their nuke doesn't team wipe you.

With that in mind units like SAnis that can target 2 units could be good, add blanc for indom
Blanc-sanis-rh-biscuit-flex

[modest sparrow]

thanks, I'll try that

would a 2RL team be fast enough to outspeed Noah?

[grizzled bone]

I can't check speed rn but that enemy team is 3rl I'm guessing. So yeah speed would be a factor you might need more burst gen

[grizzled bone]

Hiromi igarashi

[final tendon]

oh you're up there

im safe

[final tendon]

so did you start during crown too? i'm assuming you did

[umbral crown]

thats me

[umbral crown]

since im on the mood, grab these teams:

Blanc-Emilia-Red Hood-Centi-Noir
Noah-Noise-S.Anis-Biscuit-SBS
Scarlet-X.Anne-Liter-Drake-Jackal

https://tenor.com/view/gochiusa-chino-cocoa-gif-13280184

[valid fern]

Yeah, somewhere around May.

[rustic sandal]

Ah so just go down the list of SSS to SS etc then?

Cause I believe I have all meta PvP units besides limited now

[final tendon]

i feel like spent a good chunk of $$ but not nearly that much. i'm just happy above 30 now lmao

[valid fern]

I buy the monthly gem pack and a few skins here and there. Bought the upgrade supply pack once but I might start getting it regularly if I decide to divert my BA spending.

Imo the biggest factor for progression difference, besides whaling, is how fast someone breaks the 160 wall and where they use their resources.

[keen vapor]

Omg marumaru no mahou

[keen vapor]

Man, I wish I could spend on skins

[umbral crown]

Frieren*

[umbral crown]

do it then

[keen vapor]

My savings are taken out away :deadge:

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Chibi Frieren-sama for you

[umbral crown]

owo

i imagine you are C5 at this point of the life

[keen vapor]

Next reset if I'm not sniped

[umbral crown]

1.2m cp?

[keen vapor]

Uuuhhh more or so

[umbral crown]

let me see

[keen vapor]

Can you wait 5-6 hours for it?

[umbral crown]

si

it will cost you a 3% frame

[keen vapor]

arigato

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

:why snapped:

[umbral crown]

la costumbre

[keen vapor]

Someday I'll get free nitro again

[umbral crown]

yeah

[molten lodge]

some team to defeat:

Noise, Noah, Scarlet, Rapunzel, Jackal

[keen vapor]

Mirror with Scarlet Black Shadow

Done, jackal not needed and can use Biscuit instead (preferably)

[molten lodge]

thanks, im try

[final tendon]

lmao i play BA too and i'm considering just f2p'ing it now. honestly you must have used resources and everything really efficiently then. i kinda bricked my progress by not opening my core dust boxes until i broke the wall

[keen vapor]

4 limit

[keen vapor]

How's that bricking

[final tendon]

oh is that part fine

ok i leveled gear and stuff really late and procrastinated on campaign for a good while

[strong moat]

any recomendations for improvement?

[final tendon]

i started in may too but the difference is so big i wonder what i did "wrong"

[keen vapor]

While being stuck in wall you get a limit to pushing campaign

Less campaign done = lower outpost level = less core dust from opening cases early@final tendon

[keen vapor]

Biscuit I love Biscuit

[final tendon]

i checked and i was only at the wall for around 35 days but that's still a good chunk of progression pausing i guess

[grizzled bone]

stuck at the wal for only a month is not bad

[keen vapor]

I was at wall for 3 weeks, everyone gets their own chunk out

[final tendon]

yeah i just feel bummed that i'm so much more behind than phoenix and we started at the same time

[grizzled bone]

phoenix buys gems though lol

[keen vapor]

Caishen, is jackal variant superior to Biscuit variant?

I'm stupid and don't get it at all

[grizzled bone]

idk if its "superior" he's using a sanis god comp for rookie. It's not the worst thing he could do

[final tendon]

ohh monthly gem pack i thought he meant the monthly card

nvm then

[keen vapor]

[final tendon]

[grizzled bone]

yeah cant compare your progress to someone whaling gems...

they will get past wall much faster than you

[keen vapor]

Whale I'll send them a message

[keen vapor]

1 week

[final tendon]

yeah at most i only grab the event packs that are 20 bucks and the step up before the scam tiers

but even nikke i'm trying to spend less so actually in the end i am

[keen vapor]

You whale as well

[grizzled bone]

make jackal p5

[final tendon]

🐬

[grizzled bone]

hol up you buy the step up packs?

[keen vapor]

But SG on attack

[final tendon]

i buy the first one

i wasn't an efficient dolphin

[grizzled bone]

[final tendon]

i haven't now after passing the wall though

[keen vapor]

[final tendon]

isn't that worse, whaling inefficiently damn

[valid fern]

I buy the monthly $5 one.

[grizzled bone]

[valid fern]

the one that gives you 100 gems a day

[keen vapor]

I can't buy that cuz I can't log in instantly after update :deadge: literally banned from whaling

[final tendon]

ok ok so we probably have spent around the same

[valid fern]

is your internet too slow to download updates fast enough? lol

[final tendon]

and im 200k less

[keen vapor]

Wifiless

[final tendon]

yall saved my pvp career

[grizzled bone]

[keen vapor]

I have 6 GB of mobile data a month :deadge:

[valid fern]

The other phoenix

[keen vapor]

Phoenix asking on how to defeat you now

[valid fern]

nah thats a different guy

[keen vapor]

It could be funny the day it happens

[valid fern]

me and the other phoenix seem to have an unspoken truce in rookie arena right now lol

[final tendon]

nah i dont stand a chance lmao

[valid fern]

the difference probably comes from how much overload gear you have or lack.

[final tendon]

yeah i made the mistake of investing too wide so i'm waiting for skill resets

also i beat this guy the other day but today i lost. got 1 more attempt but not sure which is better since it's both 3RL vs 3RL

i coulda swore i won with the red hood team

nvm i won again with the right team

had scaret in p2 and not p1

[umbral crown]

Inwas there for like 3 months

[valid fern]

took me about 2 months

[strong moat]

anyone else to move around?

[grizzled bone]

ehhh the typical SAnis god comp is noah-noise-sanis-rapunzel-jackal
there's a few you could play around with

Scarlet-Blanc-RH-Biscuit-Jackal
Blanc-B3-RH-Biscuit-Jackal/burst gen
Noah-Noise-Scarlet-Rapunzel-Jackal

[devout onyx]

how do these two matchups look

[rustic sandal]

I believe I have all the meta pvp units now for the most part so lookin to change up my teams

[grizzled bone]

2 revivers on that 2nd team might be overkill but both teams i think will win

[devout onyx]

hmm round 3 i lost by a little bit

[fathom rock]

This is a lost cause right?

Does Tia shield nullify nukes

[glad meteor]

No

[fathom rock]

Worth a shot then

[keen vapor]

Now you guys hate me

[fathom rock]

Mind helping me with regen?

[umbral crown]

Nah

[fathom rock]

Does this win on regen or no?

[rich quail]

Yes

spoiled boy

[keen vapor]

Lost cause

Tia won't burst

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Is 3RL

3 shots in which Rei will die and SBS will be too slow to finish the job

Unless you trust in Rei surviving

Enemy is too slow yes

[fathom rock]

Thanks, put sbs leftmost so that when she dies rei sweeps them?

Thanks

[twilit bay]

How can I beat this without Sanis?
Used to copy with SBS instead, but then they switched out Rapunzel to biscuit, so I don't think that'll work anymore

[vapid lake]

good thing i checked right before closing the app mf keeps attacking me at the start of the day everyday

off to work

[spare whale]

Hello, I would like some help on making a third nikke team for defense. These are my current squads

[keen vapor]

Problem is I could trust in SBS having way higher HP

[keen vapor]

Blanc Emilia RH biscuit and you favorite rocket launcher

[twilit bay]

Hm, wouldn't that make them burst in 2,5RL (before blanc) due to feed?

[keen vapor]

Then don't use jackal and you don't worry about feed

[fathom rock]

Put anis in p1 then?

[keen vapor]

Oh to them

AR is not the biggest feed out there

Problem comes when Is SG or MG

Specially SG, is basically feed per shot

And SG shoots faster than RL

[twilit bay]

I think that Emilia is a factor too since she hits 3 at once. I've tried your team against the same person when their team was Noise Jackal Scarlet Rapunzel Noah

[keen vapor]

And what happened at that time? You bursted earlier?

[twilit bay]

1/3rd of the time blanc would burst before their Scarlet

but, most of the time I'd just get wiped before blanc got to burst

[keen vapor]

Huh

[twilit bay]

My Emilia also has 21% cs, but it's still the same

I have a very invested Rosanna if that helps

[raven plover]

have you tried

[twilit bay]

Seems like it could work. I will try it
hopefully the big difference in levels doesn't mess me up

[raven plover]

as long as its not on penalty theres a hope

[keen vapor]

Oh, level diff, you should have mentioned : deadge:

[keen vapor]

Centi we need batteries alive to generate burst energy

[fathom rock]

Got it

[grizzled bone]

moran-sbs-noir-rapunzel-centi
scarlet-blanc-liter-anis-jackal
noah-sanis-bsoda-biscuit-pepper

other comps you can try
noah-noise-sanis-rapunzel-centi
blanc-sbs-liter-biscuit-anis

i dont recommend using defense teams for attacking

[grizzled bone]

emi nuke, maybe ein

[grizzled bone]

blanc-emi-rh-biscuit-centi
noah-noise-sanis-rapunzel-anis
scarlet-sbs-liter-poli-jackal

you can play around with these

[spare whale]

Ill try these out, thank you.

[spare whale]

Btw is there an alternative for anis? Feel like she is too squishy. Or should i invest in her 💀

[keen vapor]

We invest yes

[grizzled bone]

she's only there for the burst gen, but if she's too squishy switch her out with anyone that has decent burst gen

[keen vapor]

Caishen, Anis is at the top of burst batteries :deadge:

[spare whale]

I mean I can invest in her 💀 i just feel like maybe she will be later not as useful later on in the game

was thinking about upgrading bay since she is also a RL

[grizzled bone]

i would only suggest investing in 4/4/4 skills. Gear is up to you if you're really into pvp

[keen vapor]

She will become even more useful with champion arena

[grizzled bone]

yeah but wont matter if she dies right off bat or significantly lowers cp

[keen vapor]

Overload levels only gives 200 CP so she stays at 0

[keen vapor]

That's why we invest doll

[spare whale]

Which will be released in like 40 years 😭 . Would Anis be replaced if I were to get X Anne in the eventual re-released banner

[grizzled bone]

dont brick your pve units. lol ShiftUp cares more about pve than pvp

[keen vapor]

X Anne has standard RL generation

[spare whale]

damn, is Anis generation that big 😭

[grizzled bone]

yes

[spare whale]

ok, i guess ill put a doll on her

[grizzled bone]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-up-hold-up-meme-fallout-meme-gif-3737350009659669155

she's low priority for doll

[spare whale]

all the other RL's that i use have doll though

Emilia, Biscuit, Rapunzel, Jackal, SBS, Noah, Centi, Noise and Tia all have an SR doll

[grizzled bone]

well i guess you could then lol

[spare whale]

I was thinking of raising a couple other nikke for pvp like moran, rosanna and bay. Are they good options?

[grizzled bone]

Moran is a premium b1 defender, Rosanna is useful for stripping buffs (Jackal link) and possibly sniping 1-2 units, Bay is a value-meal Noah but can still block AOE nukes

[keen vapor]

This outdated, but that's just for the later units

[spare whale]

Is that burst gen?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[spare whale]

I thought they increased Noah’s burst gen a couple months ago, was that implemented in the tierlist? There were a couple others that had their gen increased too i think

[keen vapor]

No, it's outdated, now she below Emilia, but closer in number with SG

[spare whale]

Welp i equipped the doll, i guess oll start ol my gear when i get the leveling matts

[keen vapor]

Laplace with treasure she's below SG clip

[spare whale]

so she is another unit I can work on

[spare whale]

wait I just realized this but who is my 2nd burst gonna be for the 3rd team

[grizzled bone]

your 2nd b3? Most pvp battles dont go to 2 FB

unless you really stall

[spare whale]

i mean I dont have a nikke for the 2nd tier

i have 3 burst3 and 2 burst1

[grizzled bone]

oh whoops let me edit edited

[grizzled bone]

T2 Anis can be replaced with a number of options, like Pepper, BSoda, Noir. All clip sg so their burst generation is decent

[spare whale]

ill probably use bsoda since she has a doll. and im guessign I put anis on the 3rd team?

[keen vapor]

No, don't change third team

[spare whale]

but I dont have a 2nd burst for them to use b3 skill

[keen vapor]

Poli

[grizzled bone]

i removed pepper and put poli in

[spare whale]

ok will do

ty

[grizzled bone]

https://tenor.com/view/flashbang-gif-22572243

[keen vapor]

I'll do

[grizzled bone]

not you silly

[keen vapor]

Is that ghost right now with us?

[grizzled bone]

ghost of the future ppl that might come while i'm not here

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

hola

[keen vapor]

Hola

[umbral crown]

como estas

[keen vapor]

Mucho good : Diesel nod:

[umbral crown]

so your cp?

1.5m on sp?

[keen vapor]

Dijiste 1.2m

[umbral crown]

cp issues

you must be 1.2 at 301 but at your pace will take longer than that

[keen vapor]

:diesel nod2:

[umbral crown]

im 945k

262

[keen vapor]

Count the numbers
Is 1....... Oh, 1.02

[umbral crown]

1.2m

thats the goal

some more OL and dolls and im done

[keen vapor]

Dolls :deadge:

[umbral crown]

now having a hard time with S.Anis doll

[rich quail]

hello BOY

[keen vapor]

STEP BACK EVIL CREATURE

[pastel narwhal]

[rich quail]

SR 15 doll

It’s the way to salvation

[rich quail]

Aoi Besti my Vesti Besti of Besties

Apparently, I am an evil creature

[pastel narwhal]

Evil Hambaga 🍔

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/burger-sillyburger-gif-21875156

Playing evil hamburger music

[tough scroll]

Need help in building 3 teams for arena

[rustic sandal]

is it possible to win with this huge combat power gap?

[valid fern]

Definitely possible

[rustic sandal]

thank you, what overload stat is everyone using to pad combat power? i want to pad up jackal

[rich quail]

Elemental damage nets u the most cp points

[rustic sandal]

gotcha

[rich quail]

Dolls also help

[signal hull]

I got a question about Centi: will her shield completely block Scarlet's (and other aoe screen-wipes) burst?

[lunar dirge]

i only have that at my attack teams tho

[umbral crown]

thats what matters

[umbral crown]

nope

only shield can block AoE is Noahs

[sacred sigil]

iz pvp cp broke?

its not calculated properly or updated?

[umbral crown]

close and open the game

[sacred sigil]

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

You know

[umbral crown]

maybe

[umbral crown]

esta

[keen vapor]

oye

[umbral crown]

[pastel narwhal]

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/863-project863-b27check-pins-b27-matthias-gif-25299246

[green swallow]

can someone help me make 3 good def and atk teams?
i tried using prydwen templates and feels like i could do better but not sure how

[fallow nebula]

Team advice? Cant beat this guy

[grizzled bone]

send box

[grizzled bone]

why not use blanc-sanis-rh?

[fallow nebula]

That emilia one shots my team

[summer copper]

she's dead in that pic so i think there's a different problem to look at

[fallow nebula]

Because killing her causes red hood to burst and nuke my team

Someone always bursts

[thorn pagoda]

i changed redhood's outfit back to the old one since everybody changed theirs to the new one and it's annoying for some reason

[grizzled bone]

probably because your team is faster and noah's shield expires when rh bursts

[summer copper]

there's also the question of why your Scarlet burst isn't slaughtering them all

[grizzled bone]

[glad meteor]

RH + Emi doll/gear diff. Scar nuke get’s divided in to 3, is enough to kill emi since difference in hp

after that, the rest of the team regens from blanc

[stuck crane]

I'd appreciate some help in building 3 atk teams for arena

[mighty haven]

ATK will depend on team you're facing

[stuck crane]

Would it be possible to create a general atk team?

Or is this something, where I have to really learn pvp? Either way. I'd appreciate some help.

[grizzled bone]

blanc-alice-dkw-biscuit-centi
crown-noise-rh-rapunzel-noir
scarlet-sanis-bsoda-naga-jackal

i do not recommend using def teams to attack

For attack, you can make 2 attack teams and you can skip 1 enemy team by putting 1 unit on P5. You can view the links here for counters in Rookie and Special Arena (SP) (other useful stuff at pins):

Prydwen:

• Meta units - https://tinyurl.com/4ffcu6sx
• Special Arena (SP) - https://tinyurl.com/ycxnsjrv

nikke.gg:

• Rookie Arena - https://tinyurl.com/43u6a2z4
• Special Arena (SP) - https://tinyurl.com/2p8222fy

Keripo's Video and Matrix:

• Countering the Meta - https://tinyurl.com/eydrpwh7
• Keripo's PvP Matrix - http://tinyurl.com/keripo-nikke-pvp-test-matrix

From 瑟瑟出品's Youtube Channel:

• Rookie Arena Videos (CN) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm7TApldE9QBb5aaQizIrIX0PMmTOZFJo
• Special Arena (SP) Videos (CN) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm7TApldE9QBCIBJXz6gxKHcf54BEuT3Z
• Special Arena (SP) Videos (English) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm7TApldE9QAqccQN3wgMufgcxWC1D26f

[stuck crane]

Thank you

[keen vapor]

Why not use Noah/Rapunzel/Summer Anis/biscuit/Noise? So biscuit stays alive and Noah gets double proc of invincibility

Or use Moran variant so you use Biscuit burst and Summer Anis life steals like crazy

[keen vapor]

Guys he actually believes is gems based in positions rather than points

[keen vapor]

Do I let him know the truth?

[vapid lake]

no, make him spend more gems

[umbral crown]

Is not him sending a message?

[keen vapor]

Is kind of mean

[keen vapor]

That he will target me till the end of service

[grizzled bone]

let him spend gems. He will learn eventually

[umbral crown]

si

the only one who can snipe me is out of range , he is at C8 and he would need to gem to reach which he will not do

[keen vapor]

I'll snipe him probably

[umbral crown]

if you fail that would be some real skill issues

[pseudo atlas]

how to def against this guy

[grizzled bone]

defeat or defend? You cant actually know what their attack teams are since that doesn't show up in logs.

[pseudo atlas]

i meant defend, im just assuming its the same team in atk def

but defeat is cool too

[grizzled bone]

send your box

[rich quail]

I want to end some people in my SP Arena group

https://tenor.com/view/hi-score-girl-shoot-gun-games-anime-gif-14535476

[devout onyx]

wats a good team to beat these two comps?

[spare whale]

Hello Once Again. I would like 3 team comps to counter this person. Thank you

[mild moat]

any thoughts on how to beat this guy?

[grizzled bone]

T2 Blanc-Emilia-RH-Laplace-Centi
T1 or T3 Noah-Noise-Scarlet-Rapun-Jackal
skip the team by putting 1 unit in P5

[grizzled bone]

blanc-sanis-rh comp for the emi team, noah 2rl on the scarlet team

[pseudo arch]

I need help beating this player, I have all the meta pvp units except og scarlet.

[grizzled bone]

Blanc sanis on t1 scar jack t3

[grizzled bone]

Can't check speed right now but why aren't you using jackal on t2 p5 to feed? You can replace with centi

Skip t3 it looks fast

[grizzled bone]

Skip t3 I don't think you have the cp to beat it.

Enemy T1 not sure if that will even burst if it does it looks slow. Replace Moran with Noah
T2 move jackal to p5, assuming Laplace is treasured can put on p4. Can't check speed right now
Calculate cp deficit before attacking. Do not proceed if greater than 15%

[pseudo arch]

tysm

does treasure laplace need quantum 7 to work well?

[rich quail]

The more the better imo but priority for the cube should go to Anis/Centi/Jackal

btw @pseudo arch how are you in terms of ol gear, dolls and skill investments?

You’re 6 sync levels above me, but I’m averaging about 400k a team

[pseudo arch]

I have 5 pve dolls maxed, none pvp only, I´m slowly working on ol everyone on the pvp teams

in terms of skills what should be the priority after the dps and at what lvl?

[rich quail]

Major dps characters, shoot for OL+5 all gears (i.e Red Hood, SBS, S.Anis)

Support/defend units or burst gen characters, at least all OL+0, build up select units depending on importance and usage. You want Jackal, Blanc, Biscuit and Noah to be priority.

Dolls, give to your main dps units first and build to SR 15. Others, at least SR 5

This just my opinion but this is what I focused on the past 2-3 months and seeing results on pvp and other modes

The higher the sync level, the more you can expect other players to have maxed ol gears, maxed dolls, high level cubes, etc

[grizzled bone]

Don't brick your PvE units.

You can stretch your economy out if you focus on OL hat and gloves first then armor with boots being last/optional

Check out the prdywen tier list. Sort by pvp and get an idea which units are meta and to prioritise. They also have the investment recommendations

You can find more useful links in the pins

[pseudo arch]

thank you really

[grizzled bone]

[rich quail]

[grizzled bone]

Value wise it would also be smart to prioritise the units you can use in both PvP and PvE. Skills books are huge bottle neck resource and the way you farm them is very linear so you get a set amount per day excluding events

[rich quail]

pve is the lifeblood for doing anything in pvp

Don’t be like me and sacrifice progressing in pve modes to win a few more pvp rounds

—in reality, I do invest but it’s like 20%—

[grizzled bone]

[rich quail]

I’m currently getting Crown to 10/10/10 and all OL+5, same with Naga

So not all hope is lost with me

[pastel narwhal]

[rich quail]

itseB itseV ym ioA

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/tryan-tryan-meme-tryan-memecoin-memecoin-memecoin-tryan-gif-17435284759652386857

[rich quail]

he has as many spots on his body as I do

[pastel narwhal]

those are ET pvp scars

[rich quail]

Not far from the truth

[woven acorn]

can someone help me build team for rookie and special arena? my laplace is favourited.

[rustic sandal]

help me cook sp def team pls. I'm being cooked by everybody 😔

[grizzled bone]

Moran-blanc-sbs-noir-poli
Noise-crown-sanis--bsoda-centi
Naga-emilia-liter-laplace+-anis

I dont recommend using def teams to attack @woven acorn

[grizzled bone]

Blanc-emilia-rh-biscuit/laplace+-centi
Scarlet-sbs-liter-xanne-jackal
Noah-noise-sanis-rapunzel-anis

I do not recommend using def teams for attacking

[umbral crown]

Noah/Noise/S.Anis/Biscuit/Laplace+

Scarlet/SBS/Liter/X.Anne/Jackal

Blanc/Emilia/Red Hood/Centi/Noir

[grizzled bone]

We're the same

[rustic sandal]

Thanksss!!!

[umbral crown]

[spare whale]

Im able to beat all 3. I just wanted to know a team that directly counters each one. He loves to spam attack me. Was making rotations so he would lose more often. I think last night was 3k gems before i feel asleep. I made your adjustments and it took him a few tries to beat it lol

Im just assuming he uses the same teams for offense and defense. Each time he loses his attack squads are different

[distant ingot]

noahblockingmyburst💔

[keen vapor]

Swap Emilia and Scarlet places

Replace Scarlet with either Red Hood or Liter

[distant ingot]

18%deficit

[keen vapor]

Can overload Centi?

[distant ingot]

outofcustoms

[keen vapor]

:deadge:

What about jackal

Or Liter

[distant ingot]

💀

[keen vapor]

Overload her vest

[distant ingot]

cant!

[keen vapor]

Also be sure that Jackal, centi and Emilia has quantum cube equipped

[distant ingot]

oh
emiliatoo?

[keen vapor]

Yes

He's too fast so you have to be fast as well

@distant ingot Does Liter has a blue doll?

[distant ingot]

purple

15toolol

[keen vapor]

Which level

[keen vapor]

:deadge: why is CP so low

Skills levels, for everyone @distant ingot

[distant ingot]

ihavelvl0T9Msforblanc

[keen vapor]

What are their levels

[distant ingot]

blanc4/4/7
centi4/4/4
liter7/4/7
jackal4/4/4
emi4/7/7

[keen vapor]

Ok, they're not underleveled

[distant ingot]

sob

[keen vapor]

And we have no rocks either

Give it a try but you need to get rocks and overload Blanc

[keen vapor]

Better trying and losing by deficit than no trying

[distant ingot]

thisisscarletbtw(10/4/7)

[keen vapor]

Skill 2 could receive some levels... But we aren't using her for this one

[distant ingot]

ok

[keen vapor]

Try Emilia comp, remember to equip quantum cube

[distant ingot]

erm

(theyburstbeforeme)

[keen vapor]

Blanc dies not again

[keen vapor]

You equipped 3 quantum cubes in the team? Centi and Jackal

[distant ingot]

ye

[keen vapor]

No way they burst at 1 RL

[distant ingot]

ihadquantumoncentijackalanisbeforeandswitchedanis

lvl4quantumbtw

[keen vapor]

They fired once and started bursting?

Enemy

[distant ingot]

uh

idk

shouldirecord😭

[keen vapor]

Yeah.... I guess Blanc is so squishy that she dies at the second rocket fired

Laplace and Emilia damage from enemy should be big

[distant ingot]

shoulditryagain

andrecord

iswitchedlitercubetohigherlvlforCPstick

[keen vapor]

How's CP team now

[peak lagoon]

chat should i equip healing cube or quantum cube on my noise?

just got healing and prydwen says the BIS for noise is healing

[keen vapor]

Vigor healing cube is also an option but I use it for Rapunzel and Bunny Alice

You know, slots are limited

[peak lagoon]

hmm oki

so quantum isnt a good choice for noise?

[keen vapor]

Quantum gets better use in the top burst generation nikkes

So Centi, Anis, Jackal, Emilia.....

[distant ingot]

17.9%deficitinsteadof18.x%

[keen vapor]

Not enough :deadge:

[distant ingot]

🤑

[distant ingot]

shouldistartinvestingnoise

[fiery walrus]

Such a peaceful season

[pliant carbon]

The saga continues. Another 500 gems down the drain against me in Rookie Arena, he definitely has a vendetta. So far, he has spent about 2100 gems on me in the past week and a half.

[glad meteor]

[wind fiber]

Hello! Just looking for a second opinion on a rookie arena team. Is there anyone I should swap out? Is the order of each Nikke ok? Thanks a bunch in advance. This is for an attacker team. Wondering if i could just use the same for defense?

[fathom rock]

You change your attacker team based on what enemy you are facing, does laplace have her treasure?

[wind fiber]

Yes sir. I see so I should always swap units around right?

[fathom rock]

Laplace with treasure is a super good unit for burst regen, but she has very high attacks on might steal a spot from jackal s1
When attacking an enemy you can just ask here and we gonna try to find you a team that counters them

[wind fiber]

Thank you very much! Yeah I'm reading about PVP guides and it's giving me a headache. So many variables and RNG with targetting.

[unique mountain]

Need help before reset

[wind fiber]

Would you suggest I swap Crown with Laplace and just put Laplace away from P1?

[fathom rock]

She would probably steal jackal from sanis

[fathom rock]

That team 2 is 100% losing in burst regen, 3rd one is fine

[wind fiber]

Ahh. I see. Thank you. I'll keep crown as my stat stick then. 🙂

[unique mountain]

Third one lost yesterday, second one won , never cook here again

[umbral crown]

[fathom rock]

Bruh
Time to learn more pvp

[grizzled bone]

Wait so you were asking for defense teams? 🤔

[keen vapor]

Defense against their defense

[glad meteor]

It’s a process, you’ll be more familiar with comps eventually

[spare whale]

Yes, I am confident his defense is just like his attack. Everytime he loses to my defense he switches his defense too. I dont ask for defense anymore since people dont bother and the attack squads people suggest for against their defense works against his attacks when im defending.

I save up the recommendations so I can switch them up because my opponent sometimes doesnt bother in looking and messes up his attacks

[grizzled bone]

[final tendon]

i hope this is safe i just want 3k gemerinos

[final tendon]

wtf

refreshing in rookie arena?? why

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/sinon-sword-art-online-focus-gif-7238974

[grizzled bone]

Maybe they're testing comps

[pliant carbon]

They are Challenger 9 in Special Arena, I'm Challenger 1. They rarely ever attack anyone there, I think they just have a grudge

I only recently broke past Synchro Level 380 to stop getting CP gapped by them too

[glad meteor]

Damn Snipers

[grizzled bone]

so they're just trying to hit you in rookie instead? lol

[pliant carbon]

Yep. it all started in Rookie when I was attacking them and I noticed they were attacking me back at the sametime.

Come back 10 minutes later to see another 11 additional attacks in a row on me. It's been an entire saga

[umbral crown]

was about time

[thorn pagoda]

was getting terrible luck pulling regular recruits and then the pilgrim mold saved it. was about to ragequit for a week

[wind fiber]

After some rough tests against some people in my Arena group, i've settled on this team while I work on making my Summer Anis stronger. Thank you for your help

Would love Laplace in there instead of Scarlet but i lose about 20k CP from the swap 😦

[summer copper]

that's a weird order to put them in

[keen vapor]

Noah's not bursting

[wind fiber]

Is that so? Hmm I was told I would need a taunter/tank on p1 and p5. Would you suggest this setup? I am just worried of RH stealing the burst spot.

[wind fiber]

I confess that i do not exactly know how to make this work efficiently

[summer copper]

which b3 do you want bursting?

i'd put noah on the left and jackal on the right

[grizzled bone]

noah-sbs-rh-biscuit-jackal
or
noah-biscuit-sbs-rh-jackal

[wind fiber]

Wouldn't RH take Burst 1 from Jackal if I put her on P5?

[summer copper]

i don't think Jackal's burst affects RH does it?

or sbs either

[wind fiber]

I see. Is Jackal Burst not needed to activate in order to be useful?

[grizzled bone]

correct

[summer copper]

Jackal's just there for share damage taken and high burst gen

[wind fiber]

I see. Okay I'll fix it 🙂

[grizzled bone]

Jackals burst is very specific. Most people dont burst with her

Her S1 and S2 however are very useful for attack debuff, defense buff and dmg share

RH B1 attack buffs all allies

Putting her as a secondary dps is more ideal

[wind fiber]

I see! Thank you very much. I've only recently started to pay more attention to PVP so I never fully paid attention to my teams. I appreciate it

Fixed the order. Thank you all

[grizzled bone]

[vapid lake]

you deleted your essay while i was reading it

[real surge]

Sorry... Foud a mistake in my line chart. 😛

<Ahem>

I wanted to prove something; I wanted to prove PvP on my server was stagnant and there was no competition due to the power separation between players. So for the past season of Special Arena, every day I came on and took a snapshot of the Special Arena rankings and recorded them. I took my snapshot usually between 9pm and 10pm central time on NA, though a few times as early as 7pm. The final snapshot was taken at 2:30pm, just before the season closed. Since I only collected data once per day, it won't reflect skirmishes within the same day where someone takes a position and then the person they fought takes it back.

The data did not support my hypothesis. Instead, I found competition in several "pelotons," packs of players jockeying for position; several players (including myself) also held their position the entire season.

The #1 player on my server, Sivark, held 1st place the entire season.
2nd thru 6th place jockeyed for position initially before settling for the midseason, then a last minute battle in the closing days.
7th place held their position through the entire season.
8th thru 15th battled fiercely through the season with the exception of 10th and 12 place, who held their position the entire season.
16th thru 27th also battled through the season with some exceptions, with some breaking in from outside the Top 30 while a few got knocked out of the Top 30.
17th thru 20th, 25th, 28th, and 29th held their respective positions the entire season.
I held 37th the entire season and did not make any effort to compete.

[summer copper]

k

[glad meteor]

[grizzled bone]

We already knew this anecdotally from context but i haven't seen someone visualise the data, so that's cool for a sample size.
It is worth pushing higher ranks in most cases within your "pelotons"
It is unlikely however you will catch up to older accounts without spending money, activity hiatuses, dedicated pvp investment, etc.

edit: it would be worth noting if you took note of ranks by position or by points. The points would be more accurate in my opinion.
Highly contested rank positions might not be worth fighting over compared to a slightly lower rank that isn't contested, rewarding a more consistent stream of points. i.e. a player jumping up and down the ranks by 3 positions or more would get less points

[umbral crown]

[shrewd lily]

somebody hook me up with some arena atk teams (rookie and special)

[grizzled bone]

we dont give attack teams just based on your roster

For attack, you can make 2 attack teams and you can skip 1 enemy team by putting 1 unit on P5. You can view the links here for counters in Rookie and Special Arena (SP) (other useful stuff at pins):

Prydwen:

• Meta units - https://tinyurl.com/4ffcu6sx
• Special Arena (SP) - https://tinyurl.com/ycxnsjrv

nikke.gg:

• Rookie Arena - https://tinyurl.com/43u6a2z4
• Special Arena (SP) - https://tinyurl.com/2p8222fy

Keripo's Video and Matrix:

• Countering the Meta - https://tinyurl.com/eydrpwh7
• Keripo's PvP Matrix - http://tinyurl.com/keripo-nikke-pvp-test-matrix

From 瑟瑟出品's Youtube Channel:

• Rookie Arena Videos (CN) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm7TApldE9QBb5aaQizIrIX0PMmTOZFJo
• Special Arena (SP) Videos (CN) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm7TApldE9QBCIBJXz6gxKHcf54BEuT3Z
• Special Arena (SP) Videos (English) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm7TApldE9QAqccQN3wgMufgcxWC1D26f

[shrewd lily]

so much..

[grizzled bone]

just read about the pvp mechanics and look at the tier lists

[shrewd lily]

which ones are the most important for me to look at

[grizzled bone]

one stop shop: look at the prydwen links for meta units and arch type teams and also their pvp guide on mechanics

tier lists sorted by pvp will be more updated than arch-type teams pages. No one really keeps up to date making cookie cutter teams

[sacred sigil]

[grizzled bone]

we help with making defense teams. We will help with attack teams for specific opponents because your attack teams should be tailored to your opps defense

[umbral crown]

Yes

[lunar dirge]

... or do we?

https://tenor.com/view/funny-vsauce-or-is-it-gif-25517943

[copper creek]

lmofa

bursting with jackal not always horrible idea

[shrewd lily]

i see

so uh what defense team should i have then

[umbral crown]

Maybe

[copper creek]

lmofa i went to find my old msg to copypaste a template

been 2w since i built teams for ppl here

[lunar dirge]

you just realised that?

[copper creek]

they were talking about it earlier

[copper creek]

so just putting it there

when i cooked here i kept putting jackal on p1, theres some reasons to do that

[lunar dirge]

yeah, like rosannas&stuff

[copper creek]

ehhhhh not necessarily that, but anyway thats all i say here

[grizzled bone]

you can play around with these

noah-sanis-dkw-bsoda-centi
blanc-alice-rh-biscuit-jackal
crown-mpriv-liter-anis-noise

i do not recommend using def teams to attack

[wicked burrow]

I need some help, some people always win against me. My teams now: M privaty leona soda liter anis 215k
Noah dkw s anis noir tia 211k
Miranda Alice modernia maxwell centi 205k
I'm tired of fighting back to back every day is there a way to just chill with other people not winning against me?

[iron hatch]

your third team's only burst 1 is in p1, so that's easy to beat

you also have rosanna and noise but you don't use them

now that i look at it, all your teams only have one b1 in each of them

fairly easy to prevent full bursts if i was attacking

[crystal flicker]

Poor burst gen

You missing 2 important PvP units: Biscuit and Jackal

[umbral crown]

What about : Noah/Centi/Bunny Soda/Liter/Maiden

Ah but its for SP?

[crystal flicker]

It seems so

[wicked burrow]

It is

[wicked burrow]

I can, I guess

[wicked burrow]

As for these two they're in a wishlist but not luck so far

[crystal flicker]

You have potential PvP units (Noise, Moran, La+), might want to upgrade them for better experience for now

[wicked burrow]

Okay thanks

[hybrid fox]

Meow

[crystal flicker]

Tia Noah SAnis DKW BSoda
Noise Centi Alice Liter Noir
Marci MPriv Anis Tove Maiden
Might not much, but fix the burst gen a little

[kind glen]

help, im losing to this team

[wicked burrow]

Gonna try after upgrading some of the mentioned nikkes, thanks

But the last one probably will be low cp one

[iron hatch]

liter is bricking s.anis burst, switch liter with a different b1

[crystal flicker]

Oh ye

Fixed

[crystal flicker]

Really need good B1 for PvP

[iron hatch]

i'd use rosanna for that

tia is gonna die, so use her for burst fuel

[crystal flicker]

Rosanna needs investment to 1 shot dps tho

[wicked burrow]

Tough life

[woven acorn]

i dont have jackal

[grizzled bone]

Edited

[woven acorn]

thanks, can u help me with def team on rookie?

[mighty haven]

Most durable Jackal in the world

[peak fjord]

Best PvP squad lineup now that I pulled jackal?

[umbral crown]

Alice/Noir/Blanc/Pepper/Jackal

[peak fjord]

Thank you.

There is no benefit for outside of sync devices vs inside aside from preference or if you wanna push one specific NIKKE higher than others preemptively, right?

[mighty haven]

Only put in the units you use for Campaign/Tower/PvP, your raid/niche units can stay out

[grizzled bone]

Blanc-emi-dkw-sbs-noise

[shrewd lily]

ty

[upper grove]

What ATK and DEF teams do you recommend?

[indigo scarab]

hey, quick follow up to this. i just pulled moran and ik shes amazing for pvp, where would you suggest i slot her?

[grizzled bone]

replace crown

[indigo scarab]

thanks!

[grizzled bone]

[grizzled bone]

sp def:
blanc-alice-liter-poli-noise
moran-privaty-mari-anis-centi
noah-rei-noir-naga-jackal

i do not recommend using def teams to attack

For attack, you can make 2 attack teams and you can skip 1 enemy team by putting 1 unit on P5. You can view the links here for counters in Rookie and Special Arena (SP) (other useful stuff at pins):

Prydwen:

• Meta units - https://tinyurl.com/4ffcu6sx
• Special Arena (SP) - https://tinyurl.com/ycxnsjrv

nikke.gg:

• Rookie Arena - https://tinyurl.com/43u6a2z4
• Special Arena (SP) - https://tinyurl.com/2p8222fy

Keripo's Video and Matrix:

• Countering the Meta - https://tinyurl.com/eydrpwh7
• Keripo's PvP Matrix - http://tinyurl.com/keripo-nikke-pvp-test-matrix

From 瑟瑟出品's Youtube Channel:

• Rookie Arena Videos (CN) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm7TApldE9QBb5aaQizIrIX0PMmTOZFJo
• Special Arena (SP) Videos (CN) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm7TApldE9QBCIBJXz6gxKHcf54BEuT3Z
• Special Arena (SP) Videos (English) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm7TApldE9QAqccQN3wgMufgcxWC1D26f

[wise horizon]

@coarse lake

[short nebula]

Heblos! Got a few new gals, and appreciate recommends for both Rookie and SP Arenas Atk/Def

[upper grove]

thanks, appreciate your thorough response

[vapid lake]

this one mf attacks me twice every single day at the same time i don't think he'll learn

at the start of the day too so he sits in 7th for the next 20 hours

[eternal finch]

Possible team against this player?

[mighty haven]

Wait till they come back with gems

[grizzled bone]

sp def:
blanc-emi-rh-biscuit-laplace
noah-noise-sanis-pepper-centi
scarlet-bsoda-liter-poli-jackal

i do not recommend using def teams to attack. Attack teams should be tailored to your opps defense

For attack, you can make 2 attack teams and you can skip 1 enemy team by putting 1 unit on P5. You can view the links here for counters in Rookie and Special Arena (SP) (other useful stuff at pins):

Prydwen:

• Meta units - https://tinyurl.com/4ffcu6sx
• Special Arena (SP) - https://tinyurl.com/ycxnsjrv

nikke.gg:

• Rookie Arena - https://tinyurl.com/43u6a2z4
• Special Arena (SP) - https://tinyurl.com/2p8222fy

Keripo's Video and Matrix:

• Countering the Meta - https://tinyurl.com/eydrpwh7
• Keripo's PvP Matrix - http://tinyurl.com/keripo-nikke-pvp-test-matrix

From 瑟瑟出品's Youtube Channel:

• Rookie Arena Videos (CN) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm7TApldE9QBb5aaQizIrIX0PMmTOZFJo
• Special Arena (SP) Videos (CN) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm7TApldE9QBCIBJXz6gxKHcf54BEuT3Z
• Special Arena (SP) Videos (English) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm7TApldE9QAqccQN3wgMufgcxWC1D26f

[grizzled bone]

T3 looks fine
T1 their speed is 4RL on paper but will speed up with Ros. Problem here is that you only have Alice as your DPS who doesnt have good off-burst dmg so you have to be sure that she kills Scarlet and BSoda. You probably need another DPS unit here since Alice could get sniped. Maybe Laplace+ in place of Centi

[grizzled bone]

rookie
noah-noise-scarlet-rapunzel-jackal
spa
ein-scarlet-liter-xanne-jackal
blanc-sanis-rh-biscuit-centi
noah-noise-alice-rapunzel-anis

i do not recommend using def teams to attack

your top b3 dps are alice, scarlet, sanis, rh so you can play around with your teams centred around those.
Ein can be good in pvp depending on investment if you dont want to use her in your SPA T3 you can move scarlet to P1 and add Noir to P2

[nocturne arrow]

so i want to defeat him, help me build a better team

this is my roaster

my current team have 260k and his is 230k but i still cant defeat him

[grizzled bone]

next time send your box from the Nikke tab (default sort is by power) so that none of your units are selected. That way units are not put in front of others to get a more accurate representation of your roster.

Enemy team isn't that fast at 4RL, the current team you're using is matching speed with nothing to defend against Privaty. Her stun on burst punishes slower teams.

you can try:
Blanc-SBS-Liter-Centi-Jackal
or
Blanc-SAnis-DKW-Centi-Jackal

calculate deficit before attacking. If greater than 15% do not proceed

[short nebula]

Thanks! I'll try to figure attacks out

[umbral crown]

Hola

[grizzled bone]

que lo que

[umbral crown]

Tranquilo, passing by . Starting tomorrow will help you in the kitchen

[grizzled bone]

it hasnt been that bad compared to when we were more active here tbh

i just help out when i can, you shouldn't feel obligated

[thorn pagoda]

he's just letting you know he can win any time he wants

[vapid lake]

bro doesn't even check that i shuffle my teams on reset so he always loses the first time

he has to spend gems to get above me

[thorn pagoda]

i usually wait until 5 minutes left at the end of the day before the reset and use my 2nd attempt so my rival has to spend 100 gems every 2 days on me

[raven plover]

same

[eternal finch]

The team that used to work was :

T1: Noah/Rapunzel/Scalter/Emilia/Biscuit vs Scarlet
T2: skip vs Noah/Emilia
T3: Scarlet/Blanc/Centi/RH/Jackal vs Jackal

Don't know if these will still work

[umbral crown]

[grizzled bone]

these teams look fine as well. What lost?

[eternal finch]

All 3

[grizzled bone]

[grizzled bone]

can you send your box?

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

[keen vapor]

:hmmge:

[pastel narwhal]

:forgsip:

[rich quail]

kanna

sip

I’ll do it for Echo since he refuses to pay Discord taxes

[pastel narwhal]

I'll do it but I only have forg money

[mighty haven]

1 day away from PvP, and people want to strike as soon as it re-opens

[copper creek]

nice compliment, no? 🤣

[mighty haven]

best compliment to running into a brick wall

[viral spoke]

the rats are coming out lmao

[crystal flicker]

This bracket already fell to my palm

[fast wren]

hi guys, just wondering if there is any way to further improve the positioning of my units for these 3 teams, please? i've already changed my team a lot recently referring to available resources but the current rank 3 always finds a way to defeat my defense after a few tries, even though he is more than 30 sync levels lower. I can easily beat him but also want an iron defense since he's really been a pain in the arse for the past few months. i don't have scarlet so that alone make it hard to build my teams... 😦

i can probably squeeze out another 2 sync levels with today's Hard event, but doubt that will help much. if still cant improve further think i will just take the L and settle for 3rd place, more peaceful there too 🥹

[gaunt cypress]

send screenshots of your units you have

[fast wren]

hihi, i have every unit except for scarlet and xAnne. the meta defense teams i have tried all over the past few months, but not having scarlet + jackal combo hurts

im wondring if jackal team have to put the 2 dmg share in P1/P2/P5, should i still put my tank in P1 then? like moran above

i know alice and RH not good to be dps on defense. but i dont have much choice cuz SBS is hard countered by sakura

[copper creek]

er

[covert lintel]

i just noticed, why am i getting cp reduced?

[worthy knoll]

It is just a visual bug, no worries. I tried attacking while in penalty on display but not on actual, wasn't on penalty on actual fight

[crystal flicker]

Not sure, but
Moran Centi Alice Noir Jackal
Noah Noise Rapunzel SAnis ScarletBS
Blanc Emilia RH Biscuit Anis

[fast wren]

okie... that's interesting to split biscuit from moran and noah... blanc can also work as tank?

at this point can just try anything really 😂

[crystal flicker]

I mean with Biscuit there, Blanc will survive and Emi can use buffed Nuke lol

[fast skiff]

tried 350k cp but that noah's a problem using my top 2 rows if possible

nvm i just had to run triple rocket launchers

[fast wren]

true, thanks!

[trim plank]

How come the keripo characters pinned messages/guides are gone?

[raven plover]

[pastel narwhal]

[gaunt cypress]

Then, I'll assume you've upgraded all your pvp meta units.

• blanc, rh, lap+, bisc, jack

• noah, noise, sanis, emi, centi

• bsoda, maiden, poli, rossana, noir

• sanis, lap+, blanc, rapunzel, jack

• noah, bisc, bsoda, rossana, noir

• sbs, s.rossana, rh, emi, centi

• noah, bsoda, noir, rosana, anis

• m.priv, s.ros, rh, emi, jack

• blanc, sanis, rapunzel, biscuit, centi

• privaty, sanis, biscuit, emi, anis

• noah, nois, sbs, noir, maiden

• ein, blanc, rh, centi, jack

• noah, rosana, sbs, emi, centi

• bsoda, maiden, rh, poli, noir

• noise, sanis, lap+, biscuit, jack

etc. . .

[umbral crown]

[fast wren]

i see laplace treasure mentioned a lot, but already used all my doll resources on my original 3 teams just for defense. thats why i was thinking just to call it quits and focus on solo raid now since arena* rank 1 to 3 have same rewards. then can build exia/diesel treasure etc 🥹

prob can give Mprivaty a try too

and Ein

[tribal nebula]

Hello everyone, I recently unlocked Scarlet black shadow and Centi and I would like to know how I can improve my defensive teams in the sp arena. (I'm investing in Scarlet and Moran if it can also be used as a def)

[gaunt cypress]

There are many kinds of nuker unit

[woven acorn]

can someone help me build attack and def team on rookie? (my laplace is treasured)

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/lurking-creepyguy-plant-gif-11665121

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/creepy-creep-peek-peeking-peek-a-boo-gif-7796720416747326518

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/nijika-plant-bocchi-the-rock-btr-bozaro-nijika-gif-1915166427157468235

[umbral crown]

Blanc/Emilia/Laplace+/Liter/Noir

[woven acorn]

laplace+?

[rich quail]

Laplace with treasure (aka favorite item)

[tribal nebula]

My teams in Arena SP :
Jackal/Scarlet/crown/naga/Drake
Blanc/Emilia/RH/biscuit/Centi
Noise/Noah/S.Anis/Rapunzel/Laplace+
Should i replace Drake with SBS in first team ?

[crystal flicker]

On my way to revive dead account SP arena, Investing in Scarlet Jackal to clear the arena deficit lol

[elder cosmos]

Hi, this is my roster + all sr's, please help to build 2 teams for pvp, thanks in advance

[worthy knoll]

That team scares me

[copper creek]

why does it scare u , because it doesnt have a b1 or ? 😂

[copper creek]

Users are asked to send their boxes because everyone has every unit, but the team(s) you can build may vary due to investment differences.

[eternal finch]

Current roster.

Most of the first row is maxed on skills and armor.

[proper arch]

Any kind souls please help me build teams for rookie arena and sp arena. Help is much appreciated thxx

[nocturne arrow]

okay, this is my roster.
i can build either blanc or centi but not both, who should i pick?
or there is another team suggestion?

[gaunt cypress]

lmao, forgot to put b1 there, change anis to rapunzel

[umbral crown]

not really

[kind glen]

help im losing to the above team

[tribal nebula]

Why ? Even with the same investment for Drake and scalter ?

[umbral crown]

yes because burst generation

team might be slower

[umbral crown]

Noah/Biscuit/Emilia/Red Hood/Jackal

[dim sapphire]

Whats quency burst gen like as dual smg

[umbral crown]

[gaunt cypress]

slightly below than normal SG

[umbral crown]

kinda slow, need good batteries to make up

[flint halo]

How do u beat god scar nowadays

[fast wren]

out stats with your own god scar comp?

[copper creek]

mirroring is generally a pretty horrible idea in this game

[keen vapor]

Yup

[tribal nebula]

So, should i try jackal/Scarlet/crown/Drake/Scalter ?

[umbral crown]

yeah, looks fine

[tribal nebula]

ok I will try when I have invested more in sbs

thx

[cerulean flume]

What’s the counter for Scarlet Blanc RH Biscuit Jackal? Can only beat with mirroring and hoping my team burst half a second later

[halcyon sinew]

clap them with Rosanna 46% if I

[cerulean flume]

Uninvested Rosanna
Will the team even be able to generate enough burst

MG into Scarlet sounds like enemy Scarlet going to burst so fast

[halcyon sinew]

I don't think so, if you don't invest it

maybe u can try Noah, biscu, Sbs, RH, Jackal

[cerulean flume]

Blanc buffed Scarlet outlives that team

[grizzled bone]

T1 noah-emi-rh-biscuit-laplace
T2 skip (1 unit in P5)
or blanc-sanis-biscuit-pepper-centi (if this has the cp)
T3 scarlet-blanc-liter-centi-jackal
or scarlet-sbs-rapunzel/liter-poli-jackal (can be used if you decide to fight T2)

calculate cp deficit before attacking, do not proceed if more than 15%

[halcyon sinew]

I think that's enough, if Noah can block their scarlet Burst

[cerulean flume]

I’ll give that a try again, I’m pretty sure I’ve attempted that team before

Thanks

I mean assuming I do invest in Rosanna, wouldn’t burst generation from her be lacking?

[eternal finch]

any recs for defence too?

[halcyon sinew]

If your Rosanna invests, you can Nuke Scarlet and RH before they Burst

then u save

[cerulean flume]

Gotcha

[grizzled bone]

in general, Blanc should take priority over Centi. However, Centi only needs 4/4/4 skills and is used mostly for her burst gen in PvP.
Does that team not have enough CP?

[eternal finch]

T1 got nuked instantly

No deficit

Lapace is not invested.

[gaunt cypress]

noah, biscuit, ein rapunzel, jackal

[cerulean flume]

I’ll give this a try

[gaunt cypress]

yeah 12 mnt daily server reset

[gaunt cypress]

thats a lots of people using that comp in my bracket lately

[cerulean flume]

Quantum cube priorities?

[gaunt cypress]

noah and jackal

[cerulean flume]

Yeah the same person has that as one of the teams too and I’m throwing my weakest team against it. That one I can’t figure out any way to beat.

[grizzled bone]

moran-sanis-dkw-biscuit-centi
noah-noise-sbs-rapunzel-noir
scarlet-blanc-emi-rh-jackal

[vapid lake]

time to hit someone in pvp

[gaunt cypress]

oh wait that's blanc and biscuit variant, try using ein first

[glad meteor]

@pseudo arch any chance you’re going for c5, i might just sit in c6

[eternal finch]

DKW?

[glad meteor]

Oh damn, the nihilister guy sniped trickste

[gaunt cypress]

i thought its rookie arena

[pseudo arch]

Nah if I stay inside c10 i’m chilling, but now I’m full investing in arena so I hope I catch the 3 giga whales in our bracket lmao

[cerulean flume]

Ein's better than SBS?

[gaunt cypress]

its because of S2 biscuit

[cerulean flume]

Oh, fair
Though my Ein isn't that invested

[glad meteor]

Fair play.

we can only catch trickste and chris, I cooked this against chris the other day.

Korean whale is on another level

[pseudo arch]

🤯insane Rosanna clutch

[grizzled bone]

d killer wife. Liter will give max ammo and slightly brick sanis

[eternal finch]

Should I start looking into investing on a Rosanna?

[grizzled bone]

hmm whats your Emi investment?

[eternal finch]

Maxed

[grizzled bone]

she's only good for pvp and at your progression needs pretty high investment

[eternal finch]

I only priritize PVP honestly. I am maxing Moran currently

I might even reset one of the school girls since she is maxed but seems like I barely atk with her on PVP

[gaunt cypress]

have you ever tried to lap+ ? i wonder with that much atk% could 1shot lap+

[frozen nebula]

What characters can I surround Ein with?

[halcyon sinew]

rare RL, so don't have Lap+

[grizzled bone]

try this for T1
noah-biscuit-emi-rapunzel-jackal/centi

[gaunt cypress]

ein blanc rh centi jack, that generic nuke team

[gaunt cypress]

udah sr 15 ?

[halcyon sinew]

gapunya RL doll

[gaunt cypress]

rossana sr15 not lap

[frozen nebula]

Already paired with Scarlet for a different team, trying to find something to counter Moran and I'm absolutely losing my shit rn.

[halcyon sinew]

sr10

Even that is not enough for Clap MaxCore RH

[cerulean flume]

@halcyon sinew
@gaunt cypress
Thanks

[eternal finch]

ok that was it. It worked 😄

[grizzled bone]

[eternal finch]

Thanks!

[umbral crown]

[grizzled bone]

ty rosy

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/gochiusa-chino-tippy-gif-14143072

domo arigatou

[eternal finch]

what would be the high investment on Rosanna?

[grizzled bone]

4/7/7 to start but push to 7/10/10 30% atk lines

[umbral crown]

7/10/10 30%+ ATK from OL and SR doll phase 5. to not say phase 10 or 15

[eternal finch]

Sounds good. Will reset Ein and use those resources.

[loud sonnet]

[coarse lake]

rosa really doesn't need lvl 10 s2

if you don't use sac just leave it at lvl 4

[umbral crown]

but most of the time you would want to sac units for burst generation and you would want to ge tthe max from it which is 36% ish

[coarse lake]

eh most ppl just run scar jack rosa comps, no need for sac for those 90% of the time

only extreme pvp brain will bother lvling a unit separately just for reliable sac

[umbral crown]

haha thr 160 units even tho a lv1 works better

[coarse lake]

bold of you to assume ppl can stay in cp range with a lvl 1

at that point they can just cp diff the enemy by running their pve team

[umbral crown]

nope, i know that for fact. your cp drop a lot but kinda hard to balance that with people

my team with lv1 quiry is 280k while normal pvp team is around 320-350k

thats why i mostly use it on attack only

[coarse lake]

my rosa's almost purely defense only

I got enough attack options that I never need to use her

[nocturne arrow]

i tried your team, both of them, and cant win anymore lol, not even fighting no. 1 guy, BP power problem probably
from 260k to 210k &220k

any suggestion?

[umbral crown]

hehe happens

[grizzled bone]

@umbral crown could you help Naelrung please? I'm not able to right now

[umbral crown]

yeah

[umbral crown]

whats the cp of: SBS-Blanc-Centi-Liter-Jackal?

[nocturne arrow]

almost 220k

[umbral crown]

and since enemy is 230k you are not in deficit

if you can record would be fine

[nocturne arrow]

already used it all, gonna try again tomorrow
thanks

[umbral crown]

if anything you can ping me here

[nocturne arrow]

okay

[umbral crown]

Rookie:
Scarlet-Blanc-Red Hood-Centi-Jackal

SP Defense:

Scarlet-Blanc-Red Hood-Noir-Jackal
Noah-Centi-SBS-Pepper-Bunny Soda
Crown-Privaty-S.Anis-Drake-Moran

S.Anis must be 7-7-9 or 10-10-9 with resilence cube

[umbral crown]

Maid Privaty-Blanc-Rosanna-Noir-Jackal
Moran-Pepper-Alice-Viper-Biscuit

[proper arch]

No wayyy thx bro

[umbral crown]

[mighty haven]

Literally, attack 1st and not 2nd/3rd

This person was blasting me in Rookie, now trying to do the same in SPA

[unique mountain]

Halp

[umbral crown]

46 l gap

You better skip team 2

7/7/9

But if she is more invested than other units go ahead

[umbral crown]

Let check on pc

I see, makes sense

[copper creek]

answered all on other server

[spare whale]

Define a crashout. 1.2k gems down the drain just for today

[crystal flicker]

Whale

[mortal turtle]

Hello what's the best team that I can make for regular arena? I have every nikke in the game rn and I can build them up too if needed

[crystal flicker]

Scarlet Blanc Centi Anis Jackal

[mortal turtle]

regular anis or summer anis

[crystal flicker]

regular

[mortal turtle]

wait actually? Like you're not trolling

[crystal flicker]

https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/pvp-sp-arena-teams

[final tendon]

@valid fern this guy was not in our bracket before right what are they doing here smh

[valid fern]

he was.

he just got dropped from position 2

[final tendon]

jeez

[rich quail]

Anis is one of the best at burst gen in the game

You do have to help her compensate for her shortcomings, but she can be really usefull

[grizzled bone]

[rich quail]

Whaaaaaat

It’s true

I use her a lot

[grizzled bone]

nah im just reading from when i last checked in here

[rich quail]

Oh

[grizzled bone]

they're fighting in the maid channel

[rich quail]

wat

I gotta check that out

Maid fighting sounds fun

[grizzled bone]

ppl getting hostile over doro and b1 units

i would watch an ultimate maid fighting championship

[rich quail]

…

I wou-

[grizzled bone]

i noticed the pvp channels are more active while im away

[hidden wind]

Anyone know a counter for Blanc, Scarlet Black Shadow, Noise, Biscuit, Jackal?

[rich quail]

@mortal turtle About SR Anis:

Use her for burst gen only. Her burst is not as good as other b2 units

Since she is SR, she will be weaker than other units. Lower HP makes her die faster if you’re not careful

Basic tips: Buff up her CP value with gear (OL+0 or more), doll (change from R phase 15 to SR phase 5 at least), OL lines (shoot for ele dmg for more cp and maybe charge speed to shoot faster).

Don’t pair with Blanc, because Anis may steal indom due to her lower HP

And position is important, put her around p4-p5, and not at p1-p2

If no target skip, she’ll be safe

If I made a mistake, please don’t kill me

Attack Echo instead

[grizzled bone]

SBS is hard countered by a defender + Biscuit

Blanc-Emi-RH-Biscuit-Centi for example

[hidden wind]

Thank you!

[grizzled bone]

Hi Keripo,
sorry to ping you but, could you edit the link for Gatrix's burst gen calculator? The link goes to html view only and people won't be able to make their own copies.

[spiral onyx]

whats the proper link?

[grizzled bone]

the link has the htmlview at the end of the address, could you just remove that part?

👉 👈

[spiral onyx]

Try this please: https://tinyurl.com/gatrix-burst-calc

[grizzled bone]

that link works thanks. I was just hoping it would be more accessible for other people looking at the links who might run into the same problem

[pseudo arch]

keripo your guides are excellent! just wanted to please ask in the future some recomended teams for sp?

[spiral onyx]

No, I dont give team building advice 🙂

[pseudo arch]

np

[spiral onyx]

we provide the tools and info, its up to the players to be creative and team build using them

[unborn latch]

Don't do it! He's using you to blindly stumble into the new meta, and then he will absorb your power

[rich quail]

He… he knows

He saw through our devious plan

[spiral onyx]

I already have my 5 Champion Arena teams thoroughly tested and finalized lol

Unless Cinderella is a meta unit, it likely wont change

[grizzled bone]

[copper creek]

maid channel?

[grizzled bone]

maiden bakery

[rich quail]

Which part of the channel?

[grizzled bone]

Strategy

[tender valve]

https://tenor.com/view/magnus-carlsen-magnus-carlsen-chess-checkmate-gif-11643339432039473066

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/akiba-maid-war-maid-punch-girl-fight-anime-gif-4929828943125919042

thanks

[elder cosmos]

idk why you scrolled so far but thanks mate

[gaunt sentinel]

need to cook atk team for this

one without rossana

here the rooster all treasured nikke is treasured phase 3 except exia and diesel both only phase 2

[mighty haven]

Only me SEA acc got attacked today, waaa

[onyx scaffold]

keripo prepared for this moment for 1.5 years

and then shift up will learn that pvp isn't for the majority

they will abandon it

[summer copper]

It’s for the players that matter more

[onyx scaffold]

Bold of u

[ruby iris]

Stacked wow

[umbral crown]

You can try:
Team 1 :Noah/Biscuit/Emilia/Red Hood/Laplace+

Team 2 : skip , 1 unit in P5

Team 3 : Scarlet/Blanc/Liter/SBS/Jackal

Before attacking send ss to see the cp of the suggested teams

[thorn pagoda]

some people spend gems just for a laugh

[umbral crown]

bro is cooking

testing different teams

you know champ is coming

[gaunt cypress]

your opponents didnt put biscuit there

[fast skiff]

@umbral crown im tryna defend my no 1 spot do u think you can cook sumthin for me lemme send pics

[umbral crown]

[fast skiff]

the only problem is they prolly skip my jackal team

and go for my 3rd weakest team then red hood team

[umbral crown]

whats your current defense?

[fast skiff]

so if u can id like u to spread out my teams so theyll hv a harder time against third team

its around 770k total my 3rd team is crow for trolling

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

well, lets try to make 3 stable teams

[fast skiff]

this mirage dude has noah its so annoyin

[umbral crown]

lowest cp at C1

showing the way haha

[fast skiff]

yea its not my true cp was tryna intimidate them but they're fiending for rank 1

[gaunt cypress]

if your opponents RH in P1 - P3, try bring emilia to reduce RH HP by bit before your rossana burst

[umbral crown]

laplace treasure? ein investment?

[umbral crown]

also Summer Anis investment

[umbral crown]

skills?

[fast skiff]

s anis not invested yet i was tryna build noise and biscuit

4/4/4 s anis

6/5/6 ein

bay is pretty useful just sayin

[umbral crown]

she would need to be 7/7/9 or 10/10/9 S.Anis

[fast skiff]

also i was investing in blanc

[umbral crown]

of course

[fast skiff]

would it stop a jackal team?

what can we do with the current units that i have

[umbral crown]

S.anis being SG not really recommended against Scar jackal

[umbral crown]

give me a few to cook the teams

[fast skiff]

kk thx

[gaunt sentinel]

rosy can i ask your help making atk team ?

[umbral crown]

show the rest of your units

[umbral crown]

but against a player?

[gaunt cypress]

I seem to know you man, did you play Azur Lane ? on Sandy server ?

[gaunt sentinel]

this #pvp-arena message

[umbral crown]

of course, in few minutes

[gaunt sentinel]

need team without rossana though, she not yet built... and dont think i will in near future

[gaunt cypress]

noise noah sbs emi centi
scar noir xanne rh jack
skip sanis

[loud sonnet]

He skip me

[umbral crown]

SP Defense:
Noise/Biscuit/S.Anis/Bunny Soda/Laplace+
Scarlet/Bay/Liter/Noir/Jackal
Blanc/Ein/Red Hood/Centi/Anis

[copper creek]

lol

[fast skiff]

[umbral crown]

if you have quantum cube use it on Jackal,Anis and Centi

[fast skiff]

yea i do

[gaunt cypress]

who's next victim

[gaunt sentinel]

bruv i lost team 2 but wins against team 3 sanis you told to skip with this team

nice cook for team 1 though

[umbral crown]

[gaunt cypress]

is your scar got block ?

[loud sonnet]

Nothing since those 3 are whales