pvp-arena

[peak lagoon]

what about noah though, she worth OLing too?

[rich quail]

I can’t cook

[grizzled bone]

yes. She's a tank and needs the CP padding

[rich quail]

I microwave

[grizzled bone]

conbini cooking

[maiden tapir]

so like this?

[peak lagoon]

[rich quail]

yeah

You need to train dat Biscuit

[grizzled bone]

yes

[peak lagoon]

i sure do love farming anomaly

[worthy lake]

Guys may I ask between B.soda/ drake / Noir they are same burst gen right ? I will just pick their most CP nikke ?

Or is there a priority among that 3 nikke ? thank

I use them for burst gen only tq

[grizzled bone]

yes they all clip sg

[maiden tapir]

thanks

[worthy lake]

Tq

[maiden tapir]

thanks

[worthy lake]

Which mean is safe to pick the most CP among those 3 yeah ?

[grizzled bone]

should be? but you wouldnt use Noir in a SAnis comp for example

[rich quail]

Yeah, instant nerf if u do that

For S.Anis

[grizzled bone]

unless you really need the speed i've broken rules like that

[worthy lake]

SP def :
blanc/emi/centi/rh/bisc
noise/noah/sbs/tia/jackal
scar/rap/noir/xanne/lap+

My noir is the most CP clip SG

def comp OK ?

[rich quail]

B.Soda has the best burst of the 3 (up your ele damage lines for more effects against lightning units)

Noir provides attack buff if she is over 70% hp and gives ammo up during full bursr

Drake… is Drake

[worthy lake]

I like your term Drake is Drake

[rich quail]

B.Soda is a great backup b3 if your main b3 unit dies

Don’t ask me how I know this

[worthy lake]

Correction : Drake being Drake

[rustic sandal]

i need help with pvp teams

[rich quail]

I lied
Drake gives attack boost at start of Full Burst

[grizzled bone]

Rapunzel in P2 might be dangerous. P4 is generally considered the safe zone. Since she can heal and revive any unit maybe put her there instead of X.Anne?

[worthy lake]

Noted, so I swap rap with xanne ya ?

[grizzled bone]

all teams are 3RL which is good

[worthy lake]

Actually my rap is well built, still dangerous ?

[grizzled bone]

actually... she's your only B2 keep her there swap Noir and Rapunzel

[maiden tapir]

why i cant defeat this team even i use same team?

[grizzled bone]

there's also stuff about residual targeting that we could look at but I'm about to go to bed. Someone with more knowledge could give better suggestions

[worthy lake]

@worn field Can comment if needed 🙏

[grizzled bone]

they're probably more invested than you

[rich quail]

Many factors
Gear
Dolls
Cubes
Investment on the above

[grizzled bone]

lol @rich quail pvp is suddenly busy

[rich quail]

I gotta go

[grizzled bone]

same

[umbral grove]

need help again pls can't beat this team only s.anis team is winning

[maiden tapir]

isn't level gap too big?

[grizzled bone]

your Scarlet on T2 is being countered by Noah + Biscuit despite the feed from S.Anis probably

[umbral grove]

i was able to beat them before they became lvl 400, but now can't anymore

[copper creek]

**sp - attack : **
t1: sbs/noah/noise/anis/emilia
t2: scarlet/blanc/rh/centi/jackal

calculate deficit before attacking.
do not proceed if penalty. formulae in pinned.

wait

[grizzled bone]

ty munch. I sleep

[umbral grove]

suree thank you!

[copper creek]

edited

please remember to calculate deficit and make sure there's no penalty.

[ember mulch]

how much of a deficit is bad enough ? im fighting ppl in special arena with a total team deficit of half a million

[umbral grove]

thnk you so much! will try this with my nxt attempt

[copper creek]

please refer to pinned messages.

[ember mulch]

no thanks

[copper creek]

ok

[maiden tapir]

did Anne Cristmas still being used at PVP?

[copper creek]

yes

[maiden tapir]

ok

[copper creek]

in general its a pretty horrible idea to run a mirror match

assuming all else its equal its 50/50 rng
quite rarely everything (skill, cube, unit invest, core/mlbs) is equal
if they have more atk OLs, more dupes, etc. than you, its asking for trouble generally

[copper creek]

**rookie - def : **
scarlet/blanc/rh/anis/jackal

**sp - def : **
jackal/scarlet/maiden/crown/naga
blanc/rh/b.soda/noir/sugar
noise/pepper/s.anis/biscuit/anis

**min. invest : **
if i didn't say anything about a specific nikke, use your pve setup for that nikke.

s.anis - 7/7/9 (mandatory) // 10/10/9 (ideal)

resilience cube is mandatory on s.anis.
quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel.

raise tempering cube at your own discretion,
priority: noah & blanc > other def taunters & units as required.

i do not advise running def teams on atk :
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order.

[rustic sandal]

also can i have a team for normal too

[copper creek]

t1: change order -> blanc/emi/rh/biscuit/centi

apart from that as long as its 3rl or faster its fine

[copper creek]

edited

[rustic sandal]

thanks bro

[copper creek]

👍

[worthy lake]

Thank

[umbral grove]

@copper creek can i also ask again for help with sp def teams? here are my units

my current def teams are
blanc, emi, rh, laplace, noir
noah, noise, s.anis, biscuit, pepper
scarlet, x.anne, liter, centi, jackal

should i go back to using sr anis again w/ quantum cube instead of pepper? thank you!

[copper creek]

is laplace+?
what is emilia invest?

[umbral grove]

yes. emilia is 10/10/10 too and all OL lvl 5 but the equip effects r not that good

[copper creek]

oh s1 at 10. interesting

[umbral grove]

yess hahahaha

[copper creek]

can u help me check how much CS you have on OL gear?

[umbral grove]

charge speed for OLs only have a total of 3.16%+4.92%

very unlucky

[copper creek]

Nope, enough.

[copper creek]

did u try this ?
#pvp-arena message

i ask because rosy gave u a def team couple hours after i did

[umbral grove]

OH THIS yes I also tried this but 3 people on my bracket were still able to defeat it 😭 but will swap my team with this again

[copper creek]

hm

[umbral grove]

rapunzel is still strong for pvp right? i still don't have rapunzel and it's almost 2nd anniv already aaa

[umbral grove]

i think the deficit still high but will try this now for experiment

[copper creek]

**sp - def : **
jackal/scarlet/maiden/x.anne/laplace+
blanc/emilia/noise/noir/naga
noah/biscuit/s.anis/rh/pepper

**min. invest : **
if i didn't say anything about a specific nikke, use your pve setup for that nikke.

you satisfy laplace+ <phase 3>
you satisfy emilia21 - 21% CS from S1 & OL gear (usually 8% CS + lv10 S1)
s.anis - 7/7/9 (mandatory) // 10/10/9 (ideal)

resilience cube is mandatory on s.anis.
quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel.

raise tempering cube at your own discretion,
priority: noah & blanc > other def taunters & units as required.

i do not advise running def teams on atk :
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order.

[copper creek]

please hold.

[umbral grove]

sure!

[copper creek]

both teams not in penalty.
please proceed.

if possible, please record video of the fight, so that in case (touch wood) this loses, we can try and figure out what happened.

[umbral grove]

thank you!

[copper creek]

eh

[umbral grove]

oops

[copper creek]

um, win or lose? if lost, which team

[umbral grove]

win!! idk why it didn't upload as vid T-T

[copper creek]

oh if win all good

i dont need to see it if both teams won

normally we upload to youtube (unlisted if shy) or streamable because discord file upload... does that

[umbral grove]

mb! first time uploading a vid here, will do thast next timee

thank u sm again!

[copper creek]

no worries. enjoy the win \o/

[rustic sandal]

maid priv isnt needed?

[copper creek]

in that lineup theres no place where she would be sensible

[rustic sandal]

alright cool thanks

[rustic sandal]

wait one more question in this line up anis is more favorable than sanis?

[copper creek]

i mean, i guess she could take maiden place and we swap naga to something that gens more burst

[copper creek]

both have different uses.
s.anis does a lot of dmg
anis (sr) is one of the best burst gen units

in your lineup both are used.

[rustic sandal]

i see then

ill use sanis then since she has more cp

[copper creek]

u mean the rookie team?

[rustic sandal]

yeah

thats what i was asking for mb

[copper creek]

i dont understand, sr anis and s.anis have different uses

both are used in sp
if u mean the rookie team, no they are not interchangeable

[rustic sandal]

ok then

[copper creek]

oh. if ure worried about cp put a clip sg in anis' place (noir)

[rustic sandal]

clip sg?

alright cuz the team that u suggest has 180k cp

and im kinda worried cuz i dont have doll investments on them yet

[copper creek]

put noir in place of anis if worried about cp

[rustic sandal]

alright thanks

[half grail]

Is asuka good for pvp?

[copper creek]

in the context of spa u have a lot of better dps options

[half grail]

Ah alright tysm

[thorn crest]

How to beat someone in spA that heals 11m with rapunzel

Yeah his rapunzel stronger. Usually my sanis deal more

1st team scarlet 2nd random

Updated box as in my nikke?

[thorn crest]

1st pic 87k~ 2nd 91k 3rd 87k

not that much

45%?

852636 - 737688

Damn thanks. So only in def i just get raw'ed?

Like when i changed to noise i could like survive longer to burst

Shld i just use quantum or change to bastion for more cp

I will drop

So i just put the same team so def

yeah

Thanks. And i can hit 800k team cp each team if i do some investment on jackal

ok

Thanks

[wheat pine]

Hello,

my pvp bracket was quite for a long time. Now it get's more and more active and I fell from the top ranks.

Are there any new big meta changes in the last half year?

Are these still good defence teams?

Or is it only everyone investing Dolls and OL and Rocks into meta pvp units

[thorn crest]

I only doll those i use in raid

[fossil niche]

I noticed that you did drop quite far in a short time

[wheat pine]

Hi there. You 6th currently, right? Greetings to a fellow bracket player

[fossil niche]

Yup, that's a nice spot as everyone goes for the 5th or so. Seems like the best spot to just chill.

Last attack 94 days ago

[wheat pine]

Yeah I had my Last attack ages ago and then it started.

Seems Like I need to fight back again.

Not a lot, but it happened and I could not win. Because I'm not used to the counter teams atm

Sry, you mean all my Nikkes right?

I will need to study PvP again.

Feels like school

[copper creek]

sr anis can change to another regular rl now

[wheat pine]

Now that you ask that I'm not sure. I pumped BS Scarlet for Anomaly Int full with rocks, maybe she steals the link with Jackal. Damn

[tribal nebula]

I'll give it a try when I have to face it again. Thx

And this Guy ? 😅 team 1 win easy with noah but team 3 lose without noah ...

[fossil niche]

Good choice on attacking the nr 5

[raven plover]

@delicate sequoia

[fossil niche]

My peace is undisturbed

[wheat pine]

I thought it would be rude after we talked here. 🫡

[tribal nebula]

Ok thx Zixk ☺️

Work great

Thanks again Zixk, I really need to learn the game mechanics (I understand some of it, but not all the subtleties...).

It would be more satisfying to figure it out yourself than to have to ask for help.

😅

[tribal nebula]

I've already read it, but I'm going to take a closer look.

[oak rivet]

I lose

[oak rivet]

Rookie

That's what i was thiking about,thanks

[limpid urchin]

I'm curious how the stat penalty for battle power works in PVP. How does it work?

?

thats a lot of pins.

[pale knoll]

#pvp-arena message

Could you suggest another spa def for my mini?

[wild patio]

That didnt go well is it because of 6 level diff

[limpid urchin]

Is this stat penalty calculation specific for PVP or is it global for the entire game.

[pale knoll]

Pvp

[gaunt cypress]

thats a weird looking comp, did you lose to that ?

[limpid urchin]

Story mode applies stat penalty differently? where is the chart for that?

[pale knoll]

https://nikke.gg/cp-deficit-stat-penalty/

[limpid urchin]

how interesting.

[gaunt cypress]

hey zixk, can we prevent a target skip from RLs ?

what about SG ?

that RL skip really annoying, sometime it make them 1RL faster

[wild patio]

lose to 3 of them

[ember mulch]

what are the best 3 teams i can build for special arena ? i dont want to learn how to play, just tell me what team to make please thanks

[mighty haven]

Just set auto 1 + 2 + 3

[rich quail]

check pins

The info for meta teams are there

[ember mulch]

dude i just want a straight answer
i dont want to read a whole paragraph explaining how should i build the teams and what oponents to choose

[rich quail]

ok

hold on

T1: B.Alice/Marciana/Drake/S.Anis/Noir
T2:Scarlet/SR Anis/Centi/Emilia/SBS
T3: Noah/RH/Blanc/B.Soda/Laplace

[ember mulch]

thank you very much

[novel ore]

any changes I should make to my sp arena teams?

[copper creek]

drake -> scalter
anis -> laplace

[novel ore]

aight

[glad meteor]

Changes in targeting after update?

Not seeing as much target skip

If at all

[worthy lake]

Is my attk comp safe to attack ? Please

[lunar pawn]

think you'll lose all 3 battles

t1 your b3 is alice, but opp is using noah, and his sanis will eat you for breakfast

t2 jackal-scar lose their link due to rosanna, scar may die quickly, and he might burst killing your blanc before she's any use, but even if he didn't, he has moran+biscuit to face your RH burst

t3 you'll be facing scar who's immune for 10s at least

https://tenor.com/view/netero-hunterx-hunter-gif-11280709

[junior briar]

just emilia blanc nuke the first one and scarlet nuke the third team

[umbral crown]

Well, tbh.... i do not know but could be adjuntant

[umbral crown]

[grizzled bone]

I think you lose all 3. Doppel broke it down pretty well

[worthy lake]

I won them

[grizzled bone]

Niceu

[worthy lake]

U guys think my comp will seriously lose ?

I am abit shock

Because I think t3 noah comp counter scar, and t2 scar fast burst can kill off their comp

[grizzled bone]

Actually the t3 looks fine

[worthy lake]

T3 successfully block scar burst, T2 I burst earlier than them

[grizzled bone]

T2 I dunno who would gain indom there but Moran would feed jackal even if you lost link due to Rosanna. T1 couldve gone either way

[worthy lake]

They have weak blanc lucky so she died beforw burst

Phew

[umbral crown]

[worthy lake]

[umbral crown]

Final sending a message

[pastel narwhal]

[wheat heron]

help please , last comp recommendations is not match now, since i just doing PVP now, not in the mid day.

[grizzled bone]

T1 Noah-Rapunzel-Scarlet-Anis-Jackal
T2 Blanc-Emi-RH-Laplace-Centi
T3 skip

calculate deficit before attacking

[wheat heron]

okay gonna callculate it first,

[wheat heron]

thanks

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

[keen vapor]

: Kanna sip:

[hidden wind]

What's the counter to a Biscuit SAnis Blanc team?

[umbral crown]

Tell us the whole team

[hidden wind]

Blanc SAnis Noise Biscuit Jackal

[junior briar]

just nuke them

[junior briar]

scarlet Blanc RH Emilia Jackal

[hidden wind]

I'll try that out, thank you.

[keen vapor]

This

[rich quail]

kanna

sip

[keen vapor]

[rich quail]

Where’ve you been, BOY?

[keen vapor]

Running out of mobile data

The way of wifi less doesn't allows for long procrastination

[rich quail]

You can steal wifi

[keen vapor]

Not everyday

[rich quail]

Just find restaurants or cafes
See if they have visible password
Sit outside
leeeeeeeeech

[grizzled bone]

[keen vapor]

Not everyday

Omg Kanna sip!

[rich quail]

The REAL Kanna sip!

Not the ascii text version

[keen vapor]

[rich quail]

text version because Echo used up his wifi data allotment for the month

bandwidth-friendly

[copper creek]

t3 ok
t2 depend on residual
t1 idk what ure trying to do

[glad meteor]

T1 leftovers probably

[pliant carbon]

This whale has just spent 900 gems and counting with extra attacks on me in Rookie Arena 💀

[void pendant]

Greetings, any recommendations to beat these teams?, I could only beat one team. I don't have the character called biscuit, if someone can give me a recommendation with her.

I also don't have the character called Moran.

[umbral grove]

how to counter a noah, biscuit, emi, RH, rapunzel team?

[umbral crown]

he is sending you proper messages

[void pendant]

the power of money.

[rich quail]

Could you post your roster of Nikkes sorted by power (default setting) and screen orientation set to horizontal? (Settings > Nearby > select “horizontal” option from bottom of menu) It helps people here to find out who are your strongest units so they can build the best teams for you.

Also, if you could, send screenshots of the matchup screens (all 3 teams) that list opponent’s cp amount?

[quartz prawn]

Can I please get some arena sp defense teams? The rest of the Nikkes are R. The first 7 Nikkes are around 27k cp while the rest are like around 14k cp due to lack of resources. Ik some units like S.Anis are worth building for pvp, but I'd rather focus on main team to clear campaign.

[void pendant]

I am looking for a recommendation to form attack teams, which are commonly used, or which nikkes should be uploaded to use them in pvp.

My opponent has 20k more combat power than my team.

[umbral crown]

[copper creek]

rookie or sp

[void pendant]

What difference is there between the two?

[copper creek]

that wasnt a response to u, but

if its rookie, u have the whole lineup to 1 team
if its sp, u have to win 2 of 3 fights so i need to see all 3 before i say anything

[worthy lake]

👍

[umbral grove]

only rookie hehe i've been experimenting to beat this guy's team for months. i was able to beat it yesterday, but he was using s.anis and he changed it again

[copper creek]

blanc/emilia/rh/biscuit/centi

[void pendant]

Does Biscuit have a replacement? I don't have the character.

[keen vapor]

No she meta and unique

[void pendant]

F

[umbral grove]

i wasn't able to vid T-T i ran out of attempts, will try again tmrrw

[crystal flicker]

Deficit issue it seems

[void pendant]

same, out of attempts me to.

[glad meteor]

Emi died pre burst

Unlinked emi against rh buffed rls

A small time where she’s really vulnerable against buffed rls

[umbral grove]

yes his is 653k mine is 590k

[crystal flicker]

Oh No deficit then

[storm quail]

Don't have to login today

[crystal flicker]

same

without login I still afk at top 3

[umbral crown]

nice

bao is cooking

[glad meteor]

Second best option is probably quiry. Since she buffs blanc’s hp giving her some tankiness. But is no where near a replacement

[storm quail]

Funniest thing is my team was
.
He keep beating me so I suspect that it's because my died, so I swapped to

[umbral crown]

then things changed

[storm quail]

Yep, now he is hitting 2 blue shield, and I doubt it will change soon

[umbral crown]

you cp gapping him?

[storm quail]

I don't remember his CP tbh

But I can 3x win his defense and he never changed his defense

[keen vapor]

You own Bay?

[copper creek]

do u remember what happened,

[storm quail]

I do

[keen vapor]

[copper creek]

like ur emilia burst hit them while they had noah shield still up (0 dmg done)?

or did friendly units die before burst

[glad meteor]

Emi died pre burst

Red hood has the highest blue, means she got indom

[storm quail]

Switch Centi to Jackal may help

Jackal link with Emi and RH

And if Emi have lowest max HP, indom should be her only

[umbral crown]

now start Adding Emilia and Noir to your Sync dev

[void pendant]

ok

right now.

Anything else?

[storm quail]

If you are done with PvE stuff, Rosanna is good counter to Scarlet

[keen vapor]

Guys

How to improve my pvp

[umbral crown]

now can you invest on emilia 4-7-7 in skills? and if possible OL her

[storm quail]

Pray that you are in a good bracket

[umbral crown]

she needs that investment to be the main dps in a team

[storm quail]

I was C3 last bracket and now I am C1 because the old whale got moved

[keen vapor]

How to improve

[umbral crown]

now bao is the whale

[storm quail]

Nah

[keen vapor]

Whale

[umbral crown]

open your wallet, press auto and hope for the best

[storm quail]

This bro is still more whale but he's a pacifist

He doesn't attack me because he will gain nothing

[umbral crown]

but you already now you need to invest on pvp units

[umbral crown]

whats your sync level?

[storm quail]

289

[umbral crown]

[storm quail]

Road to 10 10 10

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

When you started again?

[storm quail]

NY

[keen vapor]

2 months of advantage and you have higher synch

[storm quail]

[storm quail]

You are NA right?

[umbral crown]

SP Defense:
Blanc-Red Hood-Emilia-Sugar-Centi
Noah-Noise-S.Anis-Rapunzel-Drake
Scarlet-Crown-SBS-Noir-Jackal

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

Yes

[umbral crown]

your fault

you kept saving for nikke 2

[keen vapor]

[storm quail]

[umbral crown]

you know you can be 301, right

[storm quail]

Whale

[umbral crown]

he is

[keen vapor]

how you know

[rich quail]

I’m 302 Echo

[keen vapor]

I'm not

SEE? I CAN'T REACH ET

[umbral crown]

magic

[storm quail]

Where are you in hard

[keen vapor]

18-15

Can't delete mini bosses

[storm quail]

If you say mother whale I swear

Okay good

[keen vapor]

I need more damage

[storm quail]

[keen vapor]

I need Naga for that

[storm quail]

What's your team?

[keen vapor]

Crown /Liter/RH/flex unit/Rapunzel

[storm quail]

Oh

[keen vapor]

Sometimes I do RH as B1 but... Not here

[storm quail]

Well you aren't missing much, have you seen Retro malding SB

Ch18 boss

[storm quail]

You have to use it

A lot of stage becomes easier if you use RH B1

[keen vapor]

But I need RH B3

Is iron weak

[storm quail]

RH - Crown - RH on boss

[keen vapor]

I can't delete mini boss

[quartz prawn]

Can I please get some arena sp defense teams? The rest of the Nikkes are R. The first 7 Nikkes are around 27k cp while the rest are like around 14k cp due to lack of resources.

[umbral crown]

SP Defense:
Blanc-SBS-Red Hood-Maiden-Laplace
Noise-Mari-S.Anis-Anis-Bunny Soda
Alice-Maid Privaty-Liter-Bay-Tia

[copper creek]

oh

rosy doing work for me, ok i can go back to slacking then 😂

[umbral crown]

it will cost you a frame 3%, thanks

but since we got some free frames we good

[grizzled bone]

mods can i get a pvp-gang role please?

[copper creek]

that role is called "rock, paper, strippers" 😂

[quartz prawn]

Would it be worth replacing alice, liter, or tia in the first two teams for the cp? I was thinking on having 2 somewhat functioning teams while neglecting the third till I get some of the meta units.

[copper creek]

2 functioning def team + 1 rubbish def team (not cpmaxxed) is generally a horrific idea

attacker only has to win 2 rounds, so if u give them 1 free win its so easy to demolish either of the remaining teams

[quartz prawn]

ah i see, thanks

[umbral crown]

try to give a try while you are working in your units, if you see yourself losing a lot you can ask here again to ajust the teams

[quartz prawn]

ive noticed my blanc usually dying before bursting. should i adjust the position and just sac laplace maybe?

[void pendant]

i haven't used this box yet, would it be okay to redeem biscuit?

[glad meteor]

Tia less

[grizzled bone]

Tia is better for PvE

[umbral crown]

if you can get biscuit, would be great for a better perfomance in pvp

[umbral crown]

you could but in attack only, for Defense leave as it is. for now

or just swap sbs and blanc places but remember attack teams will depends of what you fight, not all teams works to fight every team you see around

[copper creek]

tia key raid unit
biscuit key pvp unit

your call

[quartz prawn]

tysm 🙏

[copper creek]

@quartz prawn no biscuit, so swap sbs and blanc pos

i do not advise running def teams on atk :
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order.

[umbral crown]

but but...

[copper creek]

end of the day its his account his choice
im just saying that biscuit is not the only singular best option

[glad meteor]

Tialess brick is real for sr mald 3%

[umbral crown]

well, thats true

[quartz prawn]

will do

[umbral crown]

me who never uses Tia

[glad meteor]

Give me

[copper creek]

because u dont SR 😂

[umbral crown]

i would

[umbral crown]

but i like the frames to show off in pvp

[worthy lake]

I use ICBM team beatable ? Thank

[copper creek]

uh, no
tia is the b1 - so noah's invul casts (& thus, expires) later

[rich quail]

What’s a Tia?

[worthy lake]

Scar team can ?

scar/blanc/rh/centi/jackal

ok ?

Hi Caishen

[copper creek]

can try i dont have calc on me but should be fine? maybe?

ps am out atm

[grizzled bone]

ill take over

[worthy lake]

Oh okay no worries

[grizzled bone]

this should be faster and within margins. You can try it

[worthy lake]

below 15% deficit

comp all good ?

[grizzled bone]

yes

[worthy lake]

Ok I proceed

[grizzled bone]

Scarlet should be faster than their Noah bursting

[worthy lake]

Won! Thanks

No need recording ?

Its a dramatic win

[grizzled bone]

you can if you want but not necessary

[worthy lake]

Dramatic win. Scar gets indom

I think my burst gen slow, I see their Noah managed to shield

[grizzled bone]

yeah that's what i expected to happen. Normally you don't want to use Scarlet against a Noah team because it counters Scarlet's screen-wipe. But if your team is faster and in this case gets indom, it can be succesfful

[grizzled bone]

you had a 3RL team and they were 4RL. They also had Tia so they wouldn't get to Noah bursting quite as fast as normal. That's why I said it should be okay

[worthy lake]

Gotcha!

Thank

[glad meteor]

Not enough for full nuke. Wonder what they rapu invest looks like

Is scary

[umbral crown]

[grizzled bone]

i'm willing to bet it's decent

[void pendant]

These are the defensive teams that I can put together, how are they?

[glad meteor]

Is the future. Get ready people

[grizzled bone]

your SAnis team is fine. The other two need some tweaking
The Red Hood team is pretty slow so that makes it pretty vulnerable to most comps. Is your Emi invested to at least 4/7/7 skills?
I would also probably make your Scarlet team as Scarlet-Crown-SBS-Drake-Jackal

[pliant carbon]

In total he spent 1100+ gems straight on attacking me in Rookie Arena. I guess whales are gonna use money on anything these days

[void pendant]

[glad meteor]

T1 sbs need indom or noah, bay is kinda cope. Scar nuke better
T2 blanc vulnerable to sg’s but that’s expected, would prefer emi burst
T3 looks ok, seeing as your biscuitless so less options

[copper creek]

copy msg link to your box

[grizzled bone]

K cooking? I rest.

[glad meteor]

I should be sleep rn lol

[grizzled bone]

same

[copper creek]

just sleep friends
monday coming soon
the start of a new beautiful work week coming soon

[void pendant]

Sorry, I don't quite understand what you mean.

[grizzled bone]

he's just saying to show your roster

[copper creek]

you sent ur box earlier, but i cannot find it.

right-click the message with ur box, and click copy message link.

[void pendant]

#pvp-arena message

this?

[copper creek]

yes. confirm with me that im not blind and theres no biscuit ?

[void pendant]

Yes, you are correct.

I don't have the biscuit character yet.

[copper creek]

**sp - def : **
jackal/scarlet/scalter/poli/drake
blanc/emilia/rh/noir/sugar
noah/noise/s.anis/rapunzel/centi

**min. invest : **
if i didn't say anything about a specific nikke, use your pve setup for that nikke.

emilia - 4/7/7 (mandatory)
you do NOT need emilia21 - 21% CS from S1 & OL gear (usually 8% CS + lv10 S1)
s.anis - 7/7/9 (mandatory) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
poli - burst to 4.

resilience cube is mandatory on s.anis.
quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel.

raise tempering cube at your own discretion,
priority: noah & blanc > other def taunters & units as required.

i do not advise running def teams on atk :
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order.

[void pendant]

I'm thinking about exchanging the biscuit character, what composition could I put together with her? Sorry for the inconvenience.

I imagine, with the little I know, that I would have to change Poli for Biscuit.

[copper creek]

i dont believe i used biscuit in the teams i gave you

anyway biscuit is kinda unique at what she does and i dont know what substitute there is for her

[umbral crown]

he is testing teams with you, at the same time sending a message

[glad meteor]

Centi

To fit biscuit in t2 would require burst gen allocation depending on emi cs

[velvet sky]

from selector box? if so then yes, you can exchange for her

[void pendant]

Sorry for the inconvenience, what do the acronyms written here mean? I don't understand what you mean.

CS and S1.

[velvet sky]

cs - charge speed, s1 - skill one

[void pendant]

undenstand.

So, if I understood correctly, the overload equipment should only have 8% charging speed and skill 1 should be raised to 10.

[velvet sky]

that was an explanation what 21% cs emilia is, and that is only ideally, not necessarily

[copper creek]

just do 4/7/7 as above
emi21 requirement is for info, as my msg itself also states, u dont need it

[covert lintel]

why did i get 3win when i put the team strangely like this?

[void pendant]

I understand, I apologize, since I'm just learning about pvp, I ask a lot of questions.

[velvet sky]

also once again yes, you can pick biscuit from your selector, then min invest is 4/4/4

[void pendant]

got it

[covert lintel]

rip can't send video

[copper creek]

no worries nothing to apologise for

[proud yarrow]

Well, I manage to get new Nikkes so it's that time to see if I need to update my teams again.

My DEF team for Rookie Arena is:
S. Sakura-Blanc-Centi-Liter-Jackal

Should I update?

And my SP Arena teams are:
P1: Maiden-Liter-Jackal-Poli-Sugar
P2: Crown-Anis-SBS-Volume-Noir
P3: Noise-Noah-S. Anis-Drake-Marciana

They still good or should I update?

[umbral crown]

would love to watch it

[velvet sky]

then you can replace noir in t2 with biscuit and put noir in t1 instead of drake, then replace sugar with centi in same t2, then in t3 it’ll be drake instead of centi

[mighty haven]

got to love competitive lobbies where everybody can beat up everybody

[gaunt sentinel]

@grizzled bone

i won @grizzled bone

man i never know how peaceful my bracket is... no one atacking

[grizzled bone]

what teams was this?

[gaunt sentinel]

I just swap team 2 and joke 3 surprisingly works like charm

Now i need to pay gem just to check the enemy team

Why though

[coarse lake]

@worn field do you have any videos of ally linked rosa (no scar) against enemy scarlet/blanc/rosa/cliprl/jackal

[grizzled bone]

dont bother

[coarse lake]

I'm wondering what it takes for ally rosa to even survive to burst

[gaunt sentinel]

Yeah waiting for tomorrow,
Btw my emilia already 5/7/7 and i just noticed that she 36% atk, 47% elem without max ammo and cs, is it ok though ?

[coarse lake]

well it'll only be linked for bit before enemy rosa removes link

[mighty haven]

meanwhile

[coarse lake]

would a 2 RL or 2.5RL comp be enough

and would it be close

[grizzled bone]

21% CS isn't necessary but it makes life easier. Emilia is also a unit that has very good burst gen. The skills are the most important
36% atk means she'll have hard hitting auto attacks and the ele dmg is also really good

[gaunt sentinel]

Maybe i became that if i fight to top 3

[coarse lake]

[mighty haven]

Or you can whale and just sit at C1 forever

[gaunt sentinel]

dont think i can do that, maybe c3

[coarse lake]

do you have one that's similar to enemy Scarlet/Blanc/Cliprl/Rosa/Jackal vs ally noah/biscuit/bscar/rosa/jackal

[proud yarrow]

Thank you for posting this! Is it good as an ATK team?

Well I don't have Rapunzel so it sucks I can't make teams around her, but I'll see what I can do.

[mild moat]

any help would be appreciated

[grizzled bone]

She's good for stalling but you can make good teams without her

[grizzled bone]

Your T1 and T2 look fine. Your opponent has teams that are really slow. T3 probably won't even burst

[mild moat]

so i can send this one no changes?

[grizzled bone]

Yeah

[mild moat]

it worked thanks. this guy gear i haven't been able to beat yet.

[grizzled bone]

Swap T1 for T2

[mild moat]

no other changes?

i was thinking i would replace noir on t3 with something else

[rich quail]

[grizzled bone]

I think they'll work.
All those shotguns on T3? They're gonna feed the hell out of Scarlet and Jackal.
I'm away from desk though I can't check speeds

But you could use Anis if you want more speed and its within CP

[mild moat]

got absolutely thrashed t2 lol

[grizzled bone]

Hmm no indom on emi?

[half grail]

I haven’t updated my attack team in a bit anything I could change?

[grizzled bone]

What's your roster again?

[grizzled bone]

How much success do you have with those 2 teams?

[half grail]

Quit a lot when I was about 5 levels under this guy I bought core dust to level up

[half grail]

It was going good but it isn’t cutting out much anymore if he climbs up by a couple more levels again I usually could defeat um even 5 lvl increase

[grizzled bone]

Send his teams

[half grail]

Ohh I just attacked him so I can’t check right now I won

[grizzled bone]

We tailor attack teams depending on who you're fighting.

[half grail]

Alright if he attacks again we’ll see I’ll message back

How about this guy what teams could to take him on asking for my friend but he has pretty much all characters he’s ranked 2

[mild moat]

happy to build anyone you think relevant, my moran needs some work for sure

I pretty much only invest in PvP units aside from a few exceptions

[grizzled bone]

Lol... that enemy T3 won't burst. You can use anything faster basically , it's that free

T1 looks slow as well. 3 AR units. Scar-Jack should be able to beat it

If you had to fight T2 I would using something like blanc-sbs-rh-clip rl/clip sg-clip rl. They only have 1 def unit

[half grail]

Ahh alright tysm I’ll show this to my friend

[grizzled bone]

Actually even your current t2 would beat it

[half grail]

What’s 3 teams specifically would help that?

Or 2

Yeah my friend that’s ranked 2 has same attack team as me and been attacking rank 1 to piss him off 😂 need that get back asap

[copper creek]

this wins

[grizzled bone]

T3 has 2 MG 1 sniper 1 smg. All low burst gen. You could take this out with SAnis easily

[copper creek]

t1: skip <put 1 unit on p5>
t2: blanc/emilia/rh/biscuit/centi
t3: centi -> laplace+

[copper creek]

attack teams depend on opponent def team.

[grizzled bone]

Your ingredients are rdy chef munch

[copper creek]

i dont think you can win this guy, opponent t1 and t2 way too much cp - you'll be on deficit penalty

[half grail]

Not me attacking my friend who’s ranked 2

He’s been winning against him but now nah

[copper creek]

point still stands

[half grail]

He’s been running same team as me but wonder if there changes or nah?

[copper creek]

look at opponent cp and your friendly team's cp

[half grail]

Too much cp this time?

[copper creek]

unless you get a lot more cp, its not gonna work

[half grail]

Ahh I see top 1 gemmed up

[copper creek]

its not gemmed up

[half grail]

Alright I’ll let my friend know lol he was winning against when he was 20 levels under him

[copper creek]

well its that too , but they have lots of cp that u dont have (dolls, dupes, skills, gear)

[grizzled bone]

@copper creek look at that T3 though, it won't burst

[half grail]

Now 25 levels now

[copper creek]

all 3 teams are garbage, but look at t1 & t2's cp

i dont know what u want to do taking a 400k cp team into a 600k cp 😂

[half grail]

Yeah here’s my friends cp to top 1 seems way higher than before

[grizzled bone]

They might be able to make a team for T1

[copper creek]

pls invest more in pvp units

1.174mil cp for 3 team combined DEF at sync327 is pathetic

[half grail]

He has been 10/10/10 OL dolls and all

[copper creek]

no he doesnt

[half grail]

Oh that’s me

I’m talking about top 2 is my friend

Tf

[copper creek]

1.174/1.281 at that sync

is omegalul

[half grail]

Not me who’s rank 3 trying to attack top 1 I wasn’t asking that

[copper creek]

my bracket had a 1.3m cp at sync301

for reference

so either u have pieces not OL'd or something else is up

[half grail]

I was asking for what team could rank 2 could use to attack rank 1 but now I’m confused who you was talking about

[copper creek]

well, your friend, but you're asking so im just saying you

[half grail]

Nah I’m asking for my friend since he doesn’t wanna show his characters

[copper creek]

tell the person who's asking he doesnt have the cp for it

??????

how do we help you if you dont show box...?

but ok, doesnt matter, whoever it is, not enough cp that's all

[half grail]

He has pretty much all the characters but hold on I’ll try message him

[copper creek]

thats not the problem

[half grail]

Ahh alright so not enough cp

[copper creek]

basically everyone has almost every or every nikke

the reason why we ask to see peoples' boxes, sorted by cp - is so we can figure out what units are invested and which ones are not

from what i see, if that scar/blanc/rh team belongs to the person asking, and has that cp, its extremely unlikely whoever's asking has the cp to deal with t1/t2

if that person has any further questions, he can ask himself

[half grail]

Yeah I figured he not replying right now I’ll wait and show

I just subtracted top 1 from top 2 cp night now it’s 360,491 difference too much to even win?

[copper creek]

dont think in numbers, think in %.
deficit formulae in pinned.

[half grail]

Ooohh that’s how it works alright he’s showing his characters soon I’ll send it over in a bit

[copper creek]

dont need

[copper creek]

**sp - attack : **
t1: sbs/noah/noise/biscuit/emilia
t2: - <put 1 unit on p5>
t3: scar/blanc/rh/noir/jackal

calculate deficit before attacking.
do NOT proceed if penalty. formulae in pinned.

[half grail]

Ahh alright tysm

[copper creek]

wait hold

edited

[half grail]

Okay you sure no need to show his characters?

[copper creek]

if penalty (which most likely will happen from what i can see) - dont bother

[half grail]

Ahh alright yeah

[copper creek]

dont need, i dont have the time to see anyway

[half grail]

Alrighty tysm

[copper creek]

👍

in future pls tell ur friend - if he needs help, to ask himself

when we help someone we also check their message history (for their box and other invest info)

so if u act as someone else's agent its going to be very confusing in future down the line

[half grail]

Yeah my bad he wasn’t replying for a bit that’s why

[rich quail]

kanna

sip

@keen vapor How far are you in hard campaign?

I’m gettin’ that cd per hr boost for pvp, baby

Tell me when u get to siphon off public wifi

[rough urchin]

Could I please get help with my sp defence teams and possibly attack too

[calm kettle]

me u.u can change other nikke, from it if didnt have.

choice drake/rapunzel/ etc

like if didnt have disel >> go crown// didnt have A2 go vesti

if didnt like papper (marry sg can help sg team too)>> go litter ...didnt have sanis SG can drake

but still pilot target ... main.

(jackal can laplace with rapunzel) stronk dream team.

[rough urchin]

[calm kettle]

people can do this.

sanis switch drake.

i want emiliamaxxlb but e0 still enough. just hope rerun. XD

from @slender forge

[rough urchin]

What is a good replacement for rapunzel?

[calm kettle]

put 2 brust 1 ass u want. 1 enough. shes stronk. thats dream team...

looks tier list brust one. like alice wonderland.. (( doro can combo with privaty. (last bullet team) )

moran taunt / rossana

still good at arena.

[velvet sky]

SP def:
jackal/scarlet/scalter/crown/noir
blanc/emilia/rh/biscuit/centi
noise/noah/pepper/s.anis/laplace if treasured, b.soda if laplace isn’t treasured

[rough urchin]

ty

[half grail]

Damn I tried reading the pvp chart there not much high win rate for defend but that first one with high 92%

[calm kettle]

still countered by countered. experiment XD (yolo)

[half grail]

My first time trying to read and understand it lol

[copper creek]

any and every def is breakable (both rookie, sp.a)

[half grail]

Is SBS not good lol I don’t see her in the charts? I thought she was good

Nvm I’m dyslexic

scalter looks like scarlet

[calm kettle]

its good counter centi.

[glacial lion]

will this work?

[hazy tinsel]

help with sp def team pls basically have everyone but xanne and maidpriv ty

[faint tendon]

If you're that close in cp with a lvl 1 can't you just cp gap them?

[glacial lion]

Fun

[rich quail]

I think you need to put Mast as p1 if u are going to sac her

I’ve tried p2 and she won’t die by 1rl

Then again, I have 160 Mast

[glacial lion]

Iirc someone told me sac pos2 superior cuz enemies rl still hit pos1, no bonus burst gen from splash

[rich quail]

Ah, that makes sense

Like I said I do 160 to have higher cp, but if u die in 1rl because of sync level 1 it’s all good I assume

[copper creek]

u can try
im a bit sus about taking rosanna off scarjack but can try

[rich quail]

Yeah that is a big worry

Not gonna hit as hard if not concealed

Which kills the point of sac Mast

Also, it’s like… ok you might 1-shot Emil and maybe get RH down by a lot, but maybe your followups will take a while to kill the leftovers.

Need a nuke like Scarlet to take care of the rest and utilize that burst gen

[glacial lion]

[rich quail]

indomed?

[glacial lion]

cuz biscuit s2, not blanc burst

[rich quail]

hmmm

Might need Emilia for b3?

or sbs?

You could probably use Blanc as well

[glacial lion]

huh, i win though, they not even use b1, after invul from biscuit gone they die

[rich quail]

haha you’re right

No ability to do full burst because of no b1

I’ve made that mistake before, thinking Centi or Anis is b1

But yeah you killed RH so no b1

[umbral crown]

record and show us, i like that idea

[umbral crown]

yeah, RL splash damage

but the video?

[umbral crown]

waos, i like it

Ssakura cooks for the win

[glacial lion]

sakura make sure ros burst will kill atleast 1 atker

[rich quail]

Emilia definitely

Ele dmg line x 1 or more just in case

But I think I will look for that from now on

If someone is sloppy and only has RH for b1, I may use Rosanna to kill their burst altogether

[wild patio]

https://tenor.com/view/zamasu-mergedzamasu-dragon-ball-dragon-ball-super-gif-14099902

[pastel narwhal]

[rich quail]

[halcyon sinew]

@pastel narwhal white whale hit ROW, soon he will be on C6 really

[pastel narwhal]

Name finally took down Malekus, i have front row seats to whale fight

Genesis whaled more, he more big now

[halcyon sinew]

lvl?

[pastel narwhal]

he's now 468, i think he gained 20 more lvls

i only took him down twice and then left him alone, someone else is probably pressuring him

oh you are union mates

[halcyon sinew]

C4 and C5 always hit me

[pastel narwhal]

ouch, yeah very close cp

[halcyon sinew]

C5 here lol

[halcyon sinew]

more than a year

[pastel narwhal]

time to get more black lines

[halcyon sinew]

right, but i 10x roll didn't get Black

10 is not satisfactory, will save 20 then

[pastel narwhal]

my c5-c10 always swapping positions every day

[halcyon sinew]

same here

[pastel narwhal]

everyone under pressure

3 opponents every day

[halcyon sinew]

yeah, but Marshall high lvl but low cp

[pastel narwhal]

pve-ers easier to manage

[halcyon sinew]

I hope my lvl401 can reach 2bil

[pastel narwhal]

eh you're 415

oops wrong acccount lol

[halcyon sinew]

My pve is higher than his

i 398

[pastel narwhal]

yeah 401 raised me about 80k-ish cp, suddenly the ppl below stopped testing my defenses

[halcyon sinew]

80k wow

ah, do you buy outpost 2x every day?

50 gem

[pastel narwhal]

wipe out?

[halcyon sinew]

nah

[pastel narwhal]

oh the rerolls, yeah, it refunds itself when i get gems

[halcyon sinew]

eh, Wipe out doesn't give gems, right?

[umbral crown]

rthe more the better

[umbral crown]

no

[pastel narwhal]

oh thought you meant bulletin board. If wipeout it's rarely these days, only if I'm in mighty need of core/gear. But last year I did buy 1-2x a day and then stopped cause im running out of gems

[pastel narwhal]

i don't want him to grow, i can use him as a thicc meatshield if i'm being pressured below it's why i only beat him twice

[halcyon sinew]

maybe I should buy one too, every day

to 401

[pastel narwhal]

if you have extra gems, the gear drop is nice for lvling ol's. I think i did it for 1-3months? i forget now. I also did the 150gem ordinary draws, but stopped now

[halcyon sinew]

hey, there, UR is required

[umbral crown]

be the whale

[pastel narwhal]

:bodaHavenomoney:

[umbral crown]

uwu

[wild patio]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/876756720410566669/1283091665527111722/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker_3.gif

[umbral crown]

[mighty haven]

My alt1 now has to settle for C8, o well

[mighty haven]

Yeah, even I'm stopping daily roll/1-2 wipeout/dispatch reroll, econ not enough even with 30-day daily pack

[grizzled bone]

i had to start doing 2 wipeouts to catch up to the whales in my bracket

i've caught up this season besides the leviathans so I might hold off for now because of dispatch rerolling

[glad meteor]

Centi

[grizzled bone]

dramatic wins

[umbral crown]

Whale

[rocky charm]

hello fellow commanders , could I get some help with building atk/def teams for the SP arena?

[mild moat]

@copper creek is this what you had in mind?

[daring gust]

hi, can a pro explain to me how to beat this? lol

[summer copper]

with Emilia and some better positioning

[daring gust]

For sure. Who would emilia replace and how should i adjust the positioning? Sorry for the questions

[summer copper]

Noah Biscuit Emilia Hood Jackal should do fine

[daring gust]

Sounds good, thank you!

[summer copper]

now just sign here saying that if you lose it is not @summer copper's fault

[wicked horizon]

Is there a tl;dr of how to make SP and/or Rookie Arena attack squads?

[wicked horizon]

Isn't that like, 50 pages of reading?

Thank you, btw. ❤️

No but really, there's no such link in the pins?
They're all kind of general in-depth PvP guides.

Does it all boil down to "learn the matchups of all the characters and then make a team where your characters counter the enemy characters, but also take into account CP and burst gen"?

Where the first step is like a gargantuan undertaking?

Because I haven't really seen a guide that walks you through creating a team.
It's all strategy guides that tell you rules and what certain characters do and are good at.

[summer copper]

In all tldr, a team of high burst gens and a nuke, that can full burst and is positioned properly, is enough to win most match ups

cp differences being under your own judgment

[worthy knoll]

Its there.. "Nikke PVP Resource Links". Its not too obvious coz it is shorthand on the pinned list, but its a long list of links that can help you understand pvp in this game

[wicked horizon]

Right, but isn't that... a lot of lengthy guides?

[worthy knoll]

All you need is to know the "pvp mechanics".. you can infer the basics with just that. Your units inital targetting. That is what I read only and it helped me understand the prep needed. The "burst generation guide" is also good to read if you want to get who between the team you set up or the team enemy set up will burst first or will they burst at the same time

[wicked horizon]

I can illustrate the problem this way:
At 0 knowledge, I can press auto or throw the highest CP units I have into teams that form a full burst team and play with those. - This will result in terrible teams.

At "a lot" of knowledge, after reading all the guides and learning everything about PvP, I can probably make near-optimal teams. - This will take a lot time

I'm not looking for a shortcut to making great teams, I'm looking for some middle ground, where I can make better teams than the auto button, without investing 4 hours of reading into it.

[sinful berry]

for the 3-round mode,
put a throwaway team in 1st slot,
then a good team in 2nd
and an okay team 3rd.

[wicked horizon]

I've read all that, and sadly, I still can't say I know how to make a team.

[worthy knoll]

That is already the middle ground just that "Pvp mechanics" portion is enough

And then burst generation guide to know who will burst first

[sinful berry]

the average person is just gonna spam "auto" on all 3 teams left to right, which puts their strongest up front where they'll easily wipe the floor with anything you got. followed by 2 teams of filler that they don't expect you to even get to.

by putting a trash team 1st and your good setup 2nd, you drastically increase your odds.

still kind of a crapshoot though in all honesty.

but it kinda seems to be working so far

[wicked horizon]

Gold I is working? 🤔

I mean, I currently use the defense teams the last person in this chat provided me, and then ask for a new team like once a month or so, as I progress through the game.

Now, as you also said, that's a waste, because unlike in defense, I only need 2 good team on offense. But that would require me to make better teams than the ones they put together.

[sinful berry]

considering it was bronze like yesterday or day before, yes.

[summer copper]

They also only have 4 attempts in rookie arena so gold might be good for their age

[sinful berry]

I downloaded this game like 2 weeks ago, I have not spent ANY money on it, I just cleared chapter 14 earlier today, my best squad is a mere 44k power

[wicked horizon]

I think it was afk accounts up until high plat for me. Just my experience though. Not trying to downplay anything. 👍

[sinful berry]

so all things considered,
Gold 1 is fantastic

[worthy knoll]

Yeah most are dummies while rising up from the very start

Kinda like how any other game arena is

[sinful berry]

Rookie Arena did feel like just bots for the first like 20 fghts

[worthy knoll]

Its not an actual player account you are against on the start lines

[wicked horizon]

I think it is.

[sinful berry]

but once you start getting to people in Unions that bother to customize things like title, icon, frame, etc.....

eventually you get people

[summer copper]

All those new faces

[keen vapor]

How to get levels

[keen vapor]

18-15 :deadge:

[crystal flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/take-my-money-suisui-gif-2347556257426814804

[umbral crown]

Di not make me....

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

They becoming untouchable

[umbral crown]

Get 301 boost, ez

[keen vapor]

I don't want to PVP anymore

[umbral crown]

[grizzled bone]

mald pve

[keen vapor]

I don't have Naga

[grizzled bone]

nagaless

[umbral crown]

Imagine

[keen vapor]

[velvet sky]

SP def:
jackal/scarlet/crown/sbs/noir
blanc/emilia/rh/biscuit/centi
noise/noah/rapunzel/s.anis/laplace

[velvet sky]

SP def:
scarlet/blanc/rh/centi/jackal
crown/sbs/pepper/noir/maiden
noise/noah/rapunzel/s.anis/sugar
Atk depends on enemy teams

[grizzled bone]

@velvet sky please make def team for me. Ty

[velvet sky]

idoll ocean/product 23/sanis/noir/soldier eg

[grizzled bone]

ty ty

[worthy knoll]

[velvet sky]

gives me hundreds of points in rookie trust me bro

[grizzled bone]

its already working. God comp def

[velvet sky]

[velvet sky]

[grizzled bone]

@rich quail please make a def team for me. Ty

[worthy lake]

Guys may I ask in what def comp to use Ein ? Can Ein replaces Scar in Scar comp ? For example :

scar/blanc/rh/centi/jackal

to

Ein/blanc/rh/centi/jackal ?

Thanks

The reason I ask is because My Ein is a little stronger than Scar

[grizzled bone]

Ein takes a little longer to do her burst. You might want to use someone that has good off burst damage in the same comp

[worthy lake]

I see so basically Scar is still the strongest Nuke yeah ?

@grizzled bone What you personally think for def comp for Ein ?

[umbral crown]

if Ein well invested the second one looks fine

[grizzled bone]

depends on investments. I use Ein in my defense line

[worthy lake]

Because my Ein around 999 with 4OL lv3 , her dmg is like alot higher than scar, I mean PVE wise. PVP I not yet test her.

[grizzled bone]

skills?

[worthy lake]

999

Lack skill mats

[grizzled bone]

more than ok for pvp

[worthy lake]

My scar is maxed out

[umbral crown]

you can give a try if you wanna attack someone without noah biscuit

[misty drum]

scar s2 tho

[worthy lake]

Scar 10 10 10

[umbral grove]

hi it's me agaiiin 😆 curious is there another way to beat this team? sbs+emi worked

[worthy lake]

I wanna attack this guy, my attack comp okay?

[umbral crown]

emi might die fast because of S.Anis

[worthy lake]

Any suggestions ?

[umbral crown]

[worthy lake]

This guy is very tough

I think out of 10 attacks my failure is more than 50%

And he freaking copy Your def comp

Because he cannot win 1 of your def comp

[umbral crown]

let me do some calculations

[sly terrace]

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[worthy lake]

Thank Rosy chan

[sly terrace]

how do i win against this

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[umbral crown]

cai, like how many seconds Ein takes to use her burst

[grizzled bone]

T1 you can Scar-Jack that team
T2 looks like a bait team with Rosanna. But can be beaten with a 2RL Noah team or with revives
T3 Blanc-S.Anis could work here

[grizzled bone]

hmm i haven't really checked. In my case I expect her to die most of the time and have a back up cuz I have low investments

i could try testing with the exact comp i use

[wheat heron]

help, the opponent seems uisng CP penlaty, so yeah i am only 38- 40 i believe. could i win?

[umbral crown]

because they might be bursting at the same time and if ein takes few seconds to use her burst then it will give time to give indom to emi or maybe forcing indom into another unit

[grizzled bone]

i use a Ein-Blanc-RH-Emi-Centi comp in one of my teams. Give me a sec and try it in rookie

[umbral crown]

cool

[glad meteor]

If there’s red hood and ein, I think indom could go to biscuit

Unless she dies first lol

[grizzled bone]

alright so my tests weren't great... Ein ended up dying to a scar-comp in one test. Another test the opponent died from Emi auto attacks

[worthy lake]

I see

🙏

[umbral grove]

https://streamable.com/kbg8ml just tried thiss

[grizzled bone]

Blanc in P1 might be better if you have a back up B2

[umbral grove]

thank you for ur advice!! I won T1 and T2 (same team i used before)... I wasn't sure how to set up my Team 3, so I lost >< It's resetting tomorrow anyway, but I just wanted to beat the top 1 at least once LOL

[worthy lake]

RH is backup B2

[umbral crown]

if you trust your blanc, put her in P1

[grizzled bone]

glad it worked. I just didn't bother saying skip T3

[worthy lake]

blanc/scar/rh/centi/jackal ?

Also, T3 you mentioned Emi might die

[umbral crown]

yep

sanis will hit emi

[worthy lake]

T1 Skip
T2 blanc/scar/rh/centi/jackal
T3 noah/noise/sbs/emi/bisc
ok ?

[grizzled bone]

if you hit auto what's the highest cp it gives you?

[umbral crown]

i think, just im not 100% sure about emi

[worthy lake]

[wheat heron]

like that

[grizzled bone]

Mod team looks free. It won't burst, you can use anything faster basically.
SAnis team looks vulnerable to Scarlet. I see 3 shotgun units. Put Scarlet in P5 and give her a healer

[worthy lake]

T1 Skip
T2 blanc/scar/rh/emi/centi
T3 noah/noise/sbs/bisc/jackal

@grizzled bone @umbral crown Ok ?

[umbral crown]

i think looks better now

[grizzled bone]

looks okay

[worthy lake]

Ok attacking

I lost

[umbral crown]

which team?

[worthy lake]

T2

Their emi indom

[umbral crown]

would need to slow your team

so your indom last longer

[glad meteor]

Centi still alive, hmm scar being single target means she’s at a disadvantage here

[umbral crown]

maybe scar for scalter?

[worthy knoll]

I think I remember saying to use the team I gave you before, just replace Crown to Drake

[umbral crown]

could be biscuit buff

[worthy lake]

That comp no longer win because I think he changed cubes and level up

[glad meteor]

It is

[worthy knoll]

Deficit already?

[umbral crown]

i was thinking in Blanc-Scar-Red Hood-Laplace+-Centi

[worthy lake]

Last attempt

[worthy lake]

Forgot ady but I remember I lost two attempt the next day

He didnt swap the comp but theres level up and maybe cubes switches due to UR week

[worthy lake]

My laplace is treasured so I think is fine

[worthy knoll]

I kinda remember next day you were using Bingsu's team 🤔

[glad meteor]

biscuit + defender taunter t1
Skip
Scar Jack

[worthy knoll]

Though if you have Moran, everything would be easy

[umbral crown]

[worthy lake]

Uninvested

[worthy knoll]

Its fine skillwise/gearwise as long its not on deficit

[grizzled bone]

is your laplace treasured?

[wheat heron]

Yes

[worthy lake]

Comp come, I try it

Moran's 444 with t9m

[grizzled bone]

what cp do you get for
T1 Blanc-SAnis-RH-Lappy+-Noir
T2 Noah-Noise-Scarlet-Centi-Jackal
?

[worthy lake]

Damn Moran 's CP so low

[worthy knoll]

Can you show me vid where the comp Noah Noise Biscuit Emi Noir failed T1?

[glad meteor]

Noise taunt

[umbral crown]

something like:
Round 1: Noah-Biscuit-Emilia-Red Hood-Laplace+
Round 2: skip
Round 3: Scarlet-Blanc-Liter-Centi-Jackal

[worthy lake]

@worthy knoll

[glad meteor]

looks good to me

[worthy knoll]

Nah it was fine on this

#pvp-arena message

[worthy knoll]

Yeah T1 won on that

You said it failed coz of some CS right?

[worthy lake]

T2 fail

[worthy knoll]

Show me the vid where that T1 failed

[worthy lake]

Not T1

[worthy knoll]

Yeah and I said below replace Crown to Drake

[worthy lake]

The Crown team

[wheat heron]

wait, arranged it

[worthy lake]

Ok I try this

[worthy knoll]

[umbral crown]

could you tell me the cp of these teams before attacking, final

[worthy knoll]

You said it failed coz some changes so I thought the T1 failed now too

[worthy knoll]

You can also try the change I mention for T3, just in case it might win

#pvp-arena message

[worthy lake]

T3 has cp deficit because of anis

Btw, T2 blanc/sbs/rap/drake/lap+

[worthy knoll]

Oh T3 deficit now.. bummer, was curious if just changing position can fix it

[worthy knoll]

Yeah

Is it still slow?

[worthy lake]

Havent attack yet

I am attacking now

[worthy knoll]

[worthy lake]

Oops lost

[worthy knoll]

Still failed to burst?

[worthy lake]

T2

Fail to burst very bad

[worthy knoll]

Lemme see how it went

It should be at least 3.5-4 RL

[surreal fable]

how else can I hit this? t2 is a win, t1 cant kill RH fast enough

[glad meteor]

RH buffed rls hit pretty hard i assume.

[rich quail]

[worthy knoll]

The heck is that frame perfect death

Blanc just need to burst before dying

[raven plover]

move sbs forward?

[worthy lake]

RNG issue ?

[worthy knoll]

Yeah I'm thinking that too, move SBS forward

[worthy knoll]

Yeah

[worthy lake]

Rap burst before Blanc died

[worthy knoll]

Between your Drake and SBS who has the highest attack?

[worthy lake]

Drake

[worthy knoll]

Mhh tho

[worthy lake]

Higher by around 3k

[grizzled bone]

did you figure it out?

[wheat heron]

there...

[worthy knoll]

What is the level of your Rapu burst?

[worthy lake]

4

[worthy knoll]

Oof

I felt the heal was quite lacking given its Rapu

[grizzled bone]

hmm... alright hold. T2 lacks some power

[worthy lake]

Will this work ?
Rapu/blanc/sbs/drake/lap+

Tomorrow I attaack

Wait, its reset

[worthy knoll]

Yeah haha new season

[surreal fable]

whats Moran's minimum investment for pvp?

[worthy knoll]

This will work as long as your Rapu is able to stay alive

Oh wait it will not

Coz the indom will prolly be on Rapu even if she did burst

We want indom on SBS

[worthy lake]

[wheat heron]

yeaps

heres the others opponenet, seems the same right? is difficult at CP, if i lose, i'll fight diamond one

[glad meteor]

With biscuit. Minimal invest is fine

Without biscuit. Want to make her as tanky as possible to be honest. Prydwen says 4/7/10, but i think S1 is underestimated. SR doll is good too, since it gives damage reduction. Endurance cube + temper cube is good on her.

[worthy knoll]

Was your Blanc already on Vigor cube?

[worthy lake]

My Vigor cube on = Blanc , Noah , Noise & Tia

[grizzled bone]

@wheat heron CP for Noah-Noise-Scarlet-Naga-Centi?

[worthy lake]

I not that regret because that opponent of mine is a whale

He has over 30 costumes