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but he have skill mat issues
Well I was forced to increase my Kraken team
by caishen
i still have my sbs at burst 8
Man.. hitting skill up on Alice was like taking a toll on me

SBS and Crown are fine
But Alice was like.. ugh I have to do this so I have 100% CS 
i do not bully in this channel
Well at least she don't need S2
but at least you have a 2nd rh for pvp(?
in private 
I never use RH even as a B3 burster
RH is always on my Scarlet Jack team
There would always be one team that is Scar Jackable 
Scar…
SAnis teams are always generic Noah Noise SAnis ones, my Nero team is also fixed there
i always use her against 2RL teams
If its a 2 RL nuke, I just go with a 2 RL noah
my sanis 2RL use rh but i need a better OL on sanis
Well maybe if my Liter was more CP i could swap out RH but
My Liter CP is just so sad 
no dupes or OL?
Nah its core 5 Liter
But yeah no OL
I don't use her anyway
My B1 for PVE is always Dorothy, if not a Noise Moran or Noise Rosanna
4rocks and is good to go
with default stats you already get like 30k power at your lvl... around 400 (?
Nah, i don't see any way she can be of use even if I go just OL her
My other B1 units are really so high in CP
That a half assed liter wouldn't help
before she was in scarlet/jackal team but now with noah change is hard
insane minmax 
xmica still good in that position but not strong enough
Xmica 2.5 RL maiden 
xanne took all my resources last xmas, also in the first year
Skipping xlud was one of my biggest mistakes. 
1copy everything
I never knew the gacha ways 
1-2months and i will WL rouge
Limited unit too
OOOOH SHIIIIIET I hit campaign and tower enough to lvl
ready for the next free SR
gained 7 levels and now im not completely underlvld for pvp but i am completely broke

I don’t want a common SAnis team
I want an EVIL SAnis team
my skills reset on 2b was a change from lv10 to lv7 skills...and maybe next SR she will be at 10 again
join the 2RL sanis team with noah/rh
or a blanc sanis team
fast sanis team is like whatever, better get a blanc sanis combo if you want to be evil 
add ssakura
For who?
idk
I do like ssakura kit, that s2 was doing big damage to red hood, but don’t know what it looks like without elemental
Washed fr
i gained 3k in gems today just doing pve 👀
I’m stuck on 270 tribe tower without xlud 
but that was me on asuka banner getting just R and SRs
was hoping RH there but no chance
no rei or asuka?
I need to keep pulling if i want to get scar
wait for pilgrim banner and try your luck on that
Hope your luck is better than mine
i will wait till pilgrim banner, maybe i can shine getting RH there, on crown i just go some SBS copies
at this point i might C7 and that would force me to invest on her

i don't recommend to pull on those banners but if you fail the 50/50 pilgrims show more often
all my pilgrims are from failed pilgrim banners and 5from mold in my main account
theres no way you have that bad luck
I’ve used sbs a lot since I don’t trust nuke comps to be honest, my nukes need more attack
i think i got 1 sbs in a limited banner+laplace dupe
true, i had my bad experience with crown. 200 pulls for 1 copy
65k gems for 1 copy
but few days ago i did a cook with her, at least i found some use
tickets+gems worth +65k
the next pilgrim...
1 copy and call it a day
Crown s1 buffs bsoda, but bsoda multipler low, and crown gives casters attack, and bsoda already gives herself attack. Just isn’t enough. Cooks against electric though
it has to be more broken than rh
imagine
iron unit*
that is already good in the current pvp "meta"
A2
water defender RL with true damage+stacks
the only problem with bsoda is her burst, sometimes it cast fast and sometimes it doesn't
but she have post burst damage
Didn’t know that 
is there anything i can do to stop whiffing in this matchup.
I even tried Noir over Mari for more speed, still got nuke blocked
i'm winning the other two rounds so i guess it doesn't matter that much but i dont like it
Noah 
Noah p1 hmm
Noah Biscuit combo counters your Scarlets B3. The counter for SBS is subsequently also a defender + biscuit
is this rookie or sp
More gen probably won’t matter if you whiff first shot
sp, round 2
i win the other two rounds
it wouldn't counter if i didn't rocket whiff. they're 4 RL, i'm supposed to be 3 RL
lol oh your rockets are whiffing?
has to be, i lost it three days in a row
didn't @umbral crown tried with crown p2+noah p1 to avoid whiff or target skip?
I might stop quick battling, maybe it increases whiff
Try out some noah s.anis bisc
Or
Blanc s.anis bisc
yeah, that worked against a S.Anis team if im not mistaken
no record?
that might have been a cook for me let me check
using noah and blanc on the other two teams that win.
biscuit is free though
i'll record it tomorrow
i haven't been quick battling tho
wassomething like: Noah-Crown-Emilia-Biscuit-Red Hood
Guess we’re cooked with whiffs regardless
yes this one. Used against Noah-Noiuse-Rapu-Alice-Biscuit
The only way forwards is maybe to figure out potential cs breakpoints 
yeah it aint worth that.
I'll just continue losing round 2 ig
yep whiff now are weird, the strangest thing that i saw was the no cs RL whiff against anis p1
my red hood has four charge speed rolls, maybe she's goofing it idk
4 charge speed rolls with cs sharing hmm, I have no idea how this stuff works anymore
for whiff: we need to see video otherwise dk what to tell u lol
and here similar team but against blanc emi with Rapunzel instead biscuit
Moran pepper biscuit S.Anis/Emilia Centi
This will win you the matchup 
I don't think you lose even if you whiff in this matchup
3RL?
should be
i'll try that as long as im not too low cp from no invest moran/pepper
Easily
from that cook was when i came up with viper+ phase 3
but 1 emi/centi whiff make it 4RL, no?
instead pepper
Moran will taunt no matter what
Rng in this fight is funny. Usually I whiff in 1rl and team target skips to scar. But here there’s no whiff in 1rl or target skip
and biscuit will make sure she lives to it
sbs-team? yeah
SP Defense:
Scarlet-SBS-Liter-X.Anne-Jackal
Blanc-Emilia-Red Hood-Noir-Centi
Noah-Noise-S.Anis-Biscuit-Drake
Emilia 4-7-7
X.Anne Burst to 7

🤣
let the bois aim for the best
we are pvp maniac most of them arent lol
ehh even on pryd they reco 7 for f2p
Yeah shouldn't be 7..
...should be 10 duh
ymmv tho
but yea we usually tell ppl 4-7
11 for me
4 usually more than fine for most ppl (especially in ur case since thats a 2 buff team)

@white vigil xanne 4-7,
4 usually enough (esp for that comp)
anything further at ur own discretion
god tier when i pair her with Ssakura

she needs ||deez||
Mmh, what is the 2 RL SAnis made off?
i went back to running standard team
now im running the cook i was talking back then with viper+
and the scar noah rosy comp i use on arena
jackal sanis emilia21 noah anis?
You don't burst with Noah?
YOLO OR NOTHIN’
Won't it being 2 RL makes it more Emi vulnerable?
i mean, u asked for the 2rl sanis team
it doesnt mean i agree with it nor i would run it
but that is what u asked for 🤣
Yeah, was asking what was that 2 RL SAnis team you guys mentioning above made off
i dont agree with it personally
zixk once tested 2 RL S.Anis and said was awful and bad
yeah its terrible, i tried it too
what is the point idek
cuz anything that a 2rl sanis would solve is also solved by literally any other team comp
looks like this consistenly works against the blanc/emi/rh/bisc/jackal comp altho was expecting it to only be s.anis vs emilia 1v1 at the end 

because u feed their jackal to 2.x rl
if they put centi instead of jackal ur comp wouldnt work any more
but they do not know that
Emi being an rl means she can be indom mirrored pretty easily with right ammo and burst timing. But I haven’t tested 
Was going to ask if blanc/rei/emi/biscuit/jackal would work against icbm. But eh, there’s better counters
i just blanc/centi/sbs/biscuit/rh it
works against leo's icbm
no conment about other players' icbms
Greetings, I'm looking for how to improve in pvp, I just want to stay in the position I am in, which is diamond 2, could you help me improve my team?
actually i should retest it against emi21
yep
this is against a icbm with more invest and more stonking emilia than mine
adjust pos if opponent weaker
I think a Noah Moran is the simplest counter against it
Noah emi biscuit ros jack is the safest for me, don’t need to one shot rh
SAnis kills off the others while Emi will fight off an undying Moran 
can i win against this?
the comp failed 
i look at backlog when im at desk
alright union mate attacked me. Help me cook against him 
any def comp is gonna fail against opponent who knows what theyre doing
(or asks us)
Why is your own Union mate attacking you?
cuz he's an ahole
true, but the guy is also f2p and like 15 levels below me, I'd like to think I could at least get 1 defense in now and then, not lose every fight
You even chat with them on discord?
These are my equipment, what could I change or what do you recommend? I'm free to play, so I don't have much to offer.
Makima 
why are you still in the same union? lol
tried. Posted in the union chat how we're in the same bracket lmao ign does not appear on disc so i actually dont know who it is.
I just joined this one tbh
sounds like an inactive union

Is this discord chat or in game chat?
I just want to maintain my "diamond 2" position.
anyone got any cooking for me?
#pvp-arena message
it's active, but casual. Members are pretty independent until UR
both lmao
And he doesn't reply? Or just laughs it off?
T1 defender taunt
T2 skip
T3 noah 2rl?
Today they lowered me to "diamond 4" and I tried to fight the one who beat me and is too strong.
Ty bestie 
cant find the ign name in disc so it's someone that either isn't in there/never checks
everyone else in the union said to attack him anyway
inactive union let's gooo
your unionmate playing on NA mode... if NA stands for No Allies?🤣
Oh you guys aren't discord mandatory
jailbird lmao
I suck at making arena stuff so I really appreciate yalls help
I got one in my bracket
Could someone help me?
@broken lark you got an inactive union mate attacking your own 
Show your units to see who’s invested
send units at nikke tab, in-game settings > nearby > horizontal if on mobile and sort by power only

wait no im regarded not jailbird
but same alliance (sin)
sin can afford having inactive members?
Everyone vs everyone?
I thought they kept every whale on a tight leash
f2p btw
Yes, like me
? what happened
Kit dropped
Doppel needs boost of 100 levels
someone was talking smack about your union
wait, are all jailbird members actual nerissa simps? 
idk maybe half
No waifu, only meta 
i like biboo better personally
But she is hot
rouge kit leaked, not our problem in pvp
Too many pictures maybe
Bro got dynoed
Looks pve to me
If on mobile, please use horizontal to prevent attachment limit
Start sending your nikkes,at nikke tab on lobby, in-game settings > nearby > horizonal if on mobile and sort by power only
looks pve? how about im looking at those hips-
Just the kit , the rest if fine
They couldn’t even give her flat attack

Guess Rouge is a pass for pvp
Granny on top
1 copy for the profile
so i think what theyre trying to do is really separate the two big "factions/duos/trios"

JKs are dmg buffers, 777 is survivability
Between Rei or Asuka which is the better pick
For pvp rei, asuka i do not see her usin on pvp
pve asuka
one doesnt work in pvp
first part.
Is Asuka really best for PVE?
Probably
Only use i see for asuka in pvp is to cause whiffs with 30 ammo
I look at her kit, it looks like a selfish kit. While her all allies is just core damage
Buffs Alice and mod and is a fine dps
If enemy has no core she does nothing for the team right?
second part
so many good units off synchro ...
oh no, a summer neon roller
Blanc,Emi,A2,Rosanna
Glad you are in the right place
Where munch can do a good job with you
Seems so, but alice has pierce so she can hit core in fights others can’t
Don't judge me, many of the ones I have I only take out because they are pretty, I don't know anything else about them.
No worries, we good
If anything we blame K and leo for not havin scar
Guys a menace

Getting dropped to c6 because i have no scar 
needed the speed
Drop them to D1
Ready young people, I hope you can help me with your knowledge, I know little about pvp and all this time I have remained in diamond 2 thanks to the level I have.
Thats how you break the brick
You are in the right channel, you will learn bit by bit

ill cook when im at desk shortly
Investing in BSoda has been great for me
Blanc got cooked
They already saying noir is hitting in the stands 
It’s a sad day for many
its 10am...
A good time to reset her
okay, thank you very much.
Something light to start the day
Same but r doll
wtf does backrow mean?
No idea, english not my first language

you tell me
what is your first language? 
Spanishb

Im active here to not forget english but i just type it
espera... en serio?

9999 
I have a question, in pvp is it necessary for the girls to have overload equipment and their skills to be at their maximum?
I once forgot forn2 das
Some requires max skills but others works with the minimum
Preferable to be OL +0 for supports
Well, most of the works without max skills
OL everyone is the answer
The units you use the most
rouge can help with b2 buffer 👀
But i do not see a future in pvp where people will use her unless lacking units for C.A

OL equipment - mostly for CP padding due to new CP formulae
skills - it depends, some nikkes need skill investment to function , some odn't
For example: emi works with 4/7/7 but others including me, have her max skills for more pleasure

P2 and p4
I tend to max skills the nikkes i like
Learnt something new 
ty
How about on pvp, is it still the same?
ok some backlog time
well not like you'll use her for pvp 
But for waifu purposes

Nikke positioning in PVE stage:
>>> enemies <<<
--- boundary ---
P1 P3 P5
P2 P4
In pve you'll notice ones on front or on the back.. but for pvp, they look like in a curve
dont know if it'll work the same way in pvp also
so we always have Rouge in P2 and P4 going forward? 
To boost biscuit P2
Understood, then the ones to use in pvp must be with the OL equipment.
Noah/emi/bsoda/Rouge/sugar 
wait it also says 2 allies on both sides?
Wazzat? For pvp?
With regards to back row, please go to homepage -> Squad tab
Mmh I just got Bay
PVP team? for rookie arena. Old SS but i got biscuit just now
how would it change my team
To cheer you up
Wonder if I can tweak her so that she'll be the lowest def
out of curiosity how much did you spend...
So she can work fine if against SBS teams
Could be something like:
Scarlet/Blanc/Red Hood/Biscuit/Jackal
**sp - def : **
jackal/scarlet/scalter/poli/drake
blanc/emilia/rh/noir/b.soda
noah/noise/s.anis/centi/rapunzel
**min. invest : **
if i didn't say anything about a specific nikke, use your pve setup for that nikke.
s.anis - 7/7/9 (minimum) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube mandatory
emilia - 4/7/7 (minimum)
poli - burst to 4
quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel.
raise tempering cube at your own discretion,
priority: noah & blanc > other def taunters & units as required.
i do not advise running def teams on atk :
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order.
not much, just the $5 monthly packs and those costumes you see
isn't bae helpful for your quiry team?
Not sure
nice gz, bae is gr8
Team Quiry is back again, but now with a new bae named Bay! Make sure to check out the V2 version featuring Moran at https://youtu.be/UAwrTz-Fu54 and the original V1 meme at https://youtu.be/OrAwMDPIfME
In spite of Intern-kun's terrible and incorrect translation job (her S2 adds proportional damage sharing to her cover, see the JP/KR skill desc...
Well currently on SP, I don't see anywhere to use her on
I don't think she can help for my def
She's too vulnerable
SBS and Emilia
i've had bae for awhile but unsure how to include her into comps
What was the ratio again for her?
**rookie - def : **
scarlet/blanc/rh/centi/jackal
skills? 4/4/4 i think
Nah I mean link ratio
i wouldnt bother with bae for sp , but for ca ... 😉
skills: 1/1/1
wdym by ratio?
Link ratio
she affects all allies?
Like how Jackal splits evenly between the 3, iiirc Bay takes more
After trying to make comps, missing bay is tough
She spilts between the whole team?
whole team iirc
damn is biscuit not useful?
I remember its not equal
works for me
E.g. Jackal is like 33.33% for each of them if all are alive
While Bay I kinda remember she takes more than the other units
While cover is alive, cover takes like 90%ish, while cover is gone Bay takes like not 20% but higher
give bay SR doll +15
**sp - attack : **
t1: blanc/emilia/rh/biscuit/centi
t2: - <put 1 unit in p5>
t3: sbs/noah/noise/anis/jackal
calculate deficit before attacking.
do not proceed if penalty. formulae in pinned.
rookie right ? any rookie comp is easily beatable for sure. however, for rookie, this is generally what works best for most players with pve box.
if you lose a lot, can recook. please send updated box when that happens.
So its 40% on Bay then 15% each for the others if all alive
do you still need anything ?
where ely when we need her
The english translation for bay kit doesn’t make sense to me. Her cover receives the damage 



**sp - def : **
scarlet/noir/liter/poli/jackal
blanc/emilia/rh/biscuit/centi
noise/noah/s.anis/rapunzel/tia
**min. invest : **
if i didn't say anything about a specific nikke, use your pve setup for that nikke.
s.anis - 7/7/9 (minimum) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube mandatory
emilia - 4/7/7 (minimum)
poli - burst to 4
quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel.
raise tempering cube at your own discretion,
priority: noah & blanc > other def taunters & units as required.
i do not advise running def teams on atk :
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order.
@lunar pawn do you still need ?

droppel should ship me his Ein with Red Hood and X.Anne

i should probably create a separate server for the regulars here so we can chat elsewhere hahaha
dying from pain & sickness rn so im out 
to get a drink?

and say: for the Doros profiles

ahhh okok
anyway since you seem to be a newer player, about the question you asked earlier :
nikke is generally one of the more (most) generous gacha games with f2ps
if you're f2p, you probably are not gonna get a core7 pilgrim anytime soon (i used all my pulls and mileage tickets for it), but you'll generally be mostly fine
i can confirm it, im your besto F2P
im your friendly f2p plankton 🙂

im sure to get whacked if i call myself f2p any more lmao
I wish can’t even get up from bed 
i will leave the F2P gang when i get a 3% frame
want me to get you food?
do not die on us, imagine how sad would be the doros and us without

I can call myself that 
the doros probably praying on your downfall
DONT LET THEM AHVE THE LAST LAUGH
Merry with C10
My only paid gems are from Ant's giveaway 
haha waos
The paid gems from that monthly gem pack iirc
Ely: even sick i will send you to D1 , Doros
contact finally established with union mate. We will now bully bracket
Was it 330? 🤔

damn ok 😭
¨but starts bullying Cai again

i will actually drop to diamond to attack then
the donte incident
Did he mention why he was attacking you?

or is it 
it is 
still C5, Ely?
he said monkey brain see weak def monkey brain attack. Meanwhile i am lowest CP in top10 so of course it looks weak lmao

how you have a weak defense
said same thing before that we need our own chat so zixk won’t have to always kick our asses 
I'm also lowest CP on my top 10 
idk
blame munch
🧱
my last 3 def lines are munch cooks so 
now we need to call it munch drinks

need to wait for pilgrim banner to get some pvp units
DOROS

but for now yes 
they are working hard
o no c1 changed pfp to doro too
why can ely beat me when im 381+
5/10 doros in challenger 
hahaha the Doro bracket
atp we all should change to doros
time to be sbs
im folkwang but lets change to Doro

waiting for the doro frame
K with SBS frame, full powa
yeah haha alr joked before why are all them doros picking fights with me when I don’t even have scarlet on my pfp 
showing the way on bracket
because you have RH
my rival has Viper the C2
and the other bracket the same C2 had Viper as well

looks like in my brackets, all C2 owners will use Viper

yea
wait, the poli suggestion was not for me right? 
no that was for another user
can you copy message link to your box pls? ty
i'm also out gn pvp gang
two of you gonna sleep together?
in the same bed ?
scandalous ...
gggggg scandal incoming ...
I’ve been one of the lowest cp numbers for about 4 months now
Wow
Is Rouge gonna be of any use in pvp?
Just tried to read the kit
not really
2B nuke maybe?
takes too long to stack enough hp buffs
someone like noise or blanc is just better
also burst gen issue
but absolute must-pull for raids
She can’t even cooldown right
her cdr is the same as dkw
8 full charged shots
Just to do it
Wouldn’t it do cd every other burst at that point?
Def can’t do it by 1st burst
absolutely not
her hips are fantastic, but in pvp a bit dubious, even if she gives so much max hp she doesnt heal any of it so @_@
Unless you make her cs phenomenal
Is she even good in pve at this rate?
Shifty Up, how do you f up things this bad?
actually, her form of cdr is the best... but unfortunately, it actually needs to be leveled 
unlike other typical cd units, you can't afford to not max it, cuz its cd given per 8 shots goes up per level
lvl 7 roughly should be enough for most teams just like dkw
although her reload is 2.33 instead of dkw's 2
so might need higher actually
and requires 1 ammo OL
higher ammo mag will be a must
i expect to be extremely good in pve
just as dkw is the best b1 in some situations, this can be superb
Huh
I hope she’s at least decent
But if you guys say she’ll be good in pve I’ll at least be interested to see how she does in tests
she's just dkw but a little diff
They say CD is always welcome in pve
Thanks for the help, now if I want to go as an attacker, I must form the team according to the need, tomorrow when I have the two shifts, I will ask about attacking teams.
do you think this is doable?
no burst vs my 3.5RL noah biscuit but 27% deflict
sorry only just got around to trying this but noticed you got biscuit twice
at this level of deficit nothings gonna work.
this theory gave me a tiny bit of faith
#pvp-arena message
Help i kep getting smushed
Mmh, I'm not sure but it seems it would be fine as long Alice D and Crown don't target skip and kill your SBS/Pepper. Though once you burst, it all comes down to if your SBS can run them down quick
Can I check if anyone knows why indom doesn't land on my emilia? She was lowest hp and she died shortly after blanc burst
Noah taunt SBS and Naga makes it safe, all it comes down to Alice, Dwife, Crown with variable targetting (like will they skip or not)
It didn't land on anyone actually..
She was targeted by Blanc, but like Noah, Blanc buff and heal isn't instant, she died during this delay
Oh.. the window is too short? I see
i would use an attempt for science then
suprise to me it works! so happy
Oh wait never mind, rewatched again its not the delay in this case. Blanc died before she could burst 
Nah it was RH B2
You can see the chain on the left side
Wait u are right
Its all RH
Lmao
But does blanc indom have a casting delay tho, like u said?
yes
Er.. is it a sticky?
Oh right I posted it on the megathread
Thanks
Its nice the SRs and MG didn't target skip pre burst
Your SBS might have died if Alice hit her with a full charge 
this is what i was worried about lmao
uhuh right
but nvm them now, let’s just try to x2 boosted nuke sweep that t1 instead since x1 emi boost didn’t work & attempt to block the nuke in t3, if t1 works then it all will come down to figuring out perfect speed for t3
t1- scarlet/blanc/centi/rh/jackal
t2- skip
t3 - noah/noise/biscuit/sanis/emilia
hmmm 12h doros didn’t overthrow me again just yet 
they always pick the time when im asleep 
feel like rh fr, like I turn around and there’s doros scheming something not very nice 
Actually, maybe just doing the range trick will fix it
To ensure the SRs don't skip, including the enemies' SRs
Did you do any kind PVE run before doing this?
no
So like you just logged in, then went straight to arena?
well if sim room/interception count, but i do other things and idle for a long while before the attempt
Yeah, those count
As long you did a pve run and I think its fine even if you idle as long you didn't exit the game
can't be sure the last thing i do was pve or rookie arena
can i acquire this wisdom?
There is some kind of magic that if you do a PVE run or even just going in and out the Union Range, the SRs will stick to their initial target. Like your own SR will stick to P5 while enemy SR will stick to P1
I'm not sure the exact particulars as I don't do it but the gist is something like that. And SRs like Alice or RH whose burst is like an auto attack that is quick, they also ignore Noah burst taunt (prolly not gonna work if taunt by Noah full charge) and still stick to their initial target until its dead
nice, will keep that i mind
somehow t1 won, saw his jakhal and sanis still up and most of mine dead and looked away thinking I'd lost but ended up winning. t3 lost unfortunately, died before we could burst
fml my discord mobile
copy msg link to the message with opponent's 3 def teams
Is pepper good at pvp and which team exactly
resend with t2 as well
wait, nvm
#pvp-arena message
t2 is skip bc even without that heavy deficit its hard to win in other teams, investment issues
yeah sorry t2 is 316k so would be a wash
so nothing would win there
**sp - attack : **
!! do not proceed, only tell me the CP of both teams.
t1: scarlet/poli/liter/anis/jackal
t2: - <put 1 unit on p5>
t3: blanc/centi/s.anis/biscuit/rh
min. invest :
s.anis - 7/7/9 (min.) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube mandatory.
jackal, centi, anis - quantum cube mandatory.
ah don't have sbs unfortunately
Need help for pvp team
but T1: 218,868
edited.
T1: 218,868
T3: 225,678
Here's the rest of my nikke's need help for pvp team comp.
proceed.
please record fight if possible.
ngl honestly dont know how this will go
cuz my investment on some units are absurd and not sure how it will translate to your box
let’s just hope t1 won’t be cooked without blanc since most died even with her heals there 
so I just got jackal, what pvp team can I make?
investment issues 
lets see what happened
rookie or sp.a?
that opponent is rlly way more invested
rookie or sp
rookie, but my rookie is built different since I'm a day 1 player kekw
🤣 oh fak i might be the wrong person to help then
day 1 but 160 walled? 
I stopped after chainsaw man collab and just got back when crown drops
reckon it's just impossible with current investment?
see cooked without blanc there
whats ur scarlet and liter investment
skill, ol, dolls, cube
wtf thats a 2buff scarlet
scar: 8/7/7 with 3 overload pieces (+atk, + hit rate, +hit rate, +crit rate +max ammo, + crit dam, +hit rate + charge speed) res cube, level 5 purple doll
liter: 5/5/6 2 overload pieces (+charge speed, +crit rate + atk, +max ammo, +crit rate) wingman cube, level 2 purple doll
huh

Imo just fight T2 even if you are gap, its a free win 
send updated box
you have to take t2
T2 are all units that target P1
No splash either
So Crown and Blanc can even block it even if they don't taunt
yeah, if a 2buff scarlet isnt doing sht to them gotta just crown biscuit t2 i think
sorry box? and what comp should I do if I'm taking on T2
homepage -> nikke tab (sort by power / default sort)
horizontal if on mobile to prevent msg getting autodeleted due to attach limit
the most recent box i could find from u is more than a month old
ohh 1 sec
Sp
I'm curious why would someone who is like rank 10 just farm the crap out of me from my lower 41 and drop me down to 61 in arena? Wasn't there some kind of diminishing returns?
sometimes the refresh button doesn't do anything and keep giving you no choices
🤔
T1: Scarlet Blanc Centi Liter Jackal
T2: Crown Biscuit RH Emilia Noah
Or
T1: Skip, one unit to P5
T2: Blanc Scarlet Biscuit Liter Jackal
T3: Noah SSakura RH Emilia Modernia
Coz they can't beat the higher rank
i have not kept up with pvp so my def/off comps are ancient. may i have some help please
Any advice on this ?
Scarlet Blanc SAnis Modernia Jackal 
try what merry gave u
**sp - def : **
jackal/bsoda/maiden/poli/s.sakura
blanc/rh/noir/biscuit/centi
your remaining 5 highest cp
**min. invest : **
!! you're a newer player (evident from your sync), so please focus on core units first before raising high invest pvp niche units.
if i didn't say anything about a specific nikke, use your pve setup for that nikke.
poli - burst to 4
quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel.
raise tempering cube at your own discretion,
priority: noah & blanc > other def taunters & units as required.
i do not advise running def teams on atk :
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order.
May I know what OL stats noise needed in priority and what stats to avoid ?
And Noah too, big thank
rookie - def :
scar/blanc/liter/anis/jackal
ultimately doesnt matter, u're OLing them only to pad cp.
controlling rolls to minmax pvp units is crazy behaviour that most people dont need to do (basically only merry, zixk, keripo, ely as far as our regulars are concerned)
I see. Noted
in future, when sending box to this channel for pvp teambuilding help, sort by power only (default sort).
do NOT sort further (eg by burst order as you did)
**sp - def : **
jackal/scarlet/scalter/x.anne/naga
blanc/emilia/rh/noir/drake
noise/pepper/s.anis/biscuit/anis
**min. invest : **
if i didn't say anything about a specific nikke, use your pve setup for that nikke.
s.anis - 7/7/9 (minimum) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube mandatory
emilia - 4/7/7 (minimum)
x.anne - burst to 4-7, 4 usually enough, anything further at your own discretion.
quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel.
raise tempering cube at your own discretion,
priority: noah & blanc > other def taunters & units as required.
i do not advise running def teams on atk :
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order.
sry about the sort and thanks for the help, but i don't have noah for team 3
edited
plz pray for noah shes busted post-buff
im day one and still dont have noah instead i have 5 copies of isabel 😦
day 1 
@copper creek you there ?
I don't mind more recommendations
depends on what u need
Pvp
what do u need give it to me
P3 is winning, but others doesn't
quick look only, if not urgent wait for someone else:
if ur t3 winning then:
t1 sbs noah noise anis centi
t3 anis to emilia
calculate deficit before attacking
dont proceed if penalty
Penalty
maybe need someone else to help ps
cant give attention here atm
Ehm not sure but can you check
T2 Noah biscuit sbs rh emi?
Nvm
Dude, she is literally 2nd dkw, and dkw was pulling it off, why u think rouge can't?
Would rouge kit be good in PVP? Like a budget noise for the HP UP
no
too long of a ramp up for pvp
I don’t play her at all so I didn’t know she was literally the same as dkw
All I can say is “my bad”, and that admittedly I don’t play pve all that much outside of campaign

l+skill issue+git gud
doing both pve and pvp really is hard
like serving 2 masters
What should be the best defense teams I can make for SP arena?
Ideally should include Alice, Modernia, SBS, SAnis(burst level 4), and Redhood in those teams because my opponents would win by CP deficit (I'm still walled, they're not), those are the units I have OL gear on so they have more CP.
Alice - 40k
Modernia - 35k (really bad unit for pvp I know)
SBS - 30k
SAnis (burst level 4) - 24k
Redhood - 22.8k
Rapunzel - 21k
rest is 17k and below
otherwise I'll just have to accept that I'm getting 1.6k gems biweekly until I break wall
tyvm, I've been dealing with Covid on my vacation in Poland so I haven't really been able to think straight. much appreciated 

man is there some kinda notification or something or this guy always on? always attack back like <10mins and the 1 time i attacked during a weird time it was 2hr
Boi is always checking
too many sweats around
If only, They just keep checking over and over
your schedules are the same, just like me and name 
I had one of those really awkward moments today where one guy knocks me down a spot, and I’m looking for revengeance… but then I look and the boi got knocked down further than me
So all I can do…
is wait until he tries to get real high again
And then it is I who will smite him down

Will see what changes they make in arena for ca, If it’s same old then I can’t be bothered
make them answer for their sins 
This… this face right here
This is the face of revengeance

I have 4,840 gems, 5 advance vouchers
Should I even attempt to get Asuka/Rei, or save for Rouge, or just carry all that over to 2nd anniversary?
how many golden tickets
98
No, but I play mostly pvp
i see
102 summons is possible before the anni, and you'd probably want the anni pilgrim
hmmm, they limited tho , tough call 
Yeah I do want anni character
also... idt 20 summons will be enough to get the pilgrim unless you're hella lucky so honestly i'd just go for rei or asuka
pilgrim you can get later on standard.. but then again they're pilgrim so 
1% is a tough number
If I try rn, I’ll probably go for Asuka
same with rouge, so i wouldn't use your limited summons. instead, save your blue summons and when rouge gets added to standard banner in 2 weeks ish you can just try to get her from standard
Rei seems ok but nobody really saying much about her in pvp
they already have a nuker
rei can still be used with modernia on raids
Yeah, and I don’t really need need one
Heard Asuka better on raids
Okay how ‘bout this…
rn I use my 5 vouchers for Asuka
Tomorrow, I decide if I wanna gem if I still don’t have either
still 10 rolls left
but asuka is waiting
Thanks for the help manage to win
@pastel narwhal
The fate of the world is in your hands
If you tell me to pull 10 for Asuka, I will
And then I will televise the end of the world shortly after
*or me just crying while lying on the ground
DO YOU REALIZE THE POWER YOU HOLD IN YOUR HANDS?!!!
Do it for shifty bread 

what about atk?

oh well, golden tix and now you'll have less gems to spend for revenge 
bring out the credit card for your new iphone fund 
can you still push thru hard mode, tower?
I guess
spend everything so you won't be tempted to revenge anymore 
The blood of my enemies
It keeps me alive
1,840 gems
@glad meteor
The fate of the world is now in YOUR hands
Do I pull 6 times, or no?
you give us too much powah 
I want my friends to play important roles in the balance of time and humanity
I am very generous

depends on opponent def
damn, ok thx
anyone here that's good at pvp? 
If you ever come across a def that is hard to figure out, just show the matchup here along with your current lineup (as usual sort by power set to horizontal mode)
Lot of great pvp players here who can help
Welp you fighting un-walled oponent so it's hard
Also, Modernia isn’t considered a viable pvp unit
I remember like every Challenger try to beat me the moment they break the wall lmao
rosy in the making 
is sp arena more worth to do than regular one?

Generally it’s worth getting better at because of bi-weekly gems
I see
i'm not expert here, so for reference only
assume your major opponents are under 160 wall same as you and cp are close enough
you can have two fast 3RL team, and the remaining team best cp
K gave you Harran 
106 pulls
no eva characters
Treasure soon 
Better than that wretched scar
My luck was so bad I cleared cache to see if it’d help
they really should change on-kill mechanics like harran/epinel
Harran nuke 
if you keep rolling banner maybe you can get enough for anniv?
That is for 2nd anniv
Yeah like I said, I plan to roll for Rouge
They say she possible SSS tier
… in pve
it's fine, pve push makes your pvp stronger 
true dat
did you tix mari?
I did
Rouge is raid unit. Can wishlist. Since your pvp
ok, you got something at least
I have one Mari and even though I don’t have her fully built yet, I’m glad I chose her
she's useful on both content
Rei the biggest nuke? no?
Emi
There's nothing much if you still walled, but probably this could work
Jackal Sanis Biscuit ScarletBS Anis (Please up Sanis burst to 9)
Centi RH Alice Rapunzel Drake
Noise Moran Noir Bay Sugar
3RL is the fastest right?
that last team, what type of team is that?
1 rl is the fastest, no many comps can feasibily reach that though lol
wow our leviathan whaled hard after a loss from me, now i can't even dent this even with almost equal cp. Maybe all these are sr dolled 10 or 15 ... or maybe i just forgot what i used before 
no but if you want at least 2 fast team i guess 3RL is as faster as you can do without cubes
got it
diff 44 lv.
ah, you join 401
yes im 401, i can beat his first team but not the 2nd anymore
maybe dolls + 40lvls advantage?
You're so fast, I'm still at 396
if one of my suggestions too low cp i guess you may for example swap sbs with s.anis
Swap centi and biscuit and team will work better
when did you join btw? i started from chainsaw man event
Ol stat ?
drake also can replace pepper/noir for better cp
maybe, that guy is rich, maybe black lines
Sorry for pinging after like 2 months. but I finally got poli and Jackal, how does my pvp teams change now?
but it's weird, it didn't affect his cp much
our cp is still equal so idon't get it
I got Black on Rosy, and gained 6k CP
but if it's black def line? idk if that even matters in pvp except cp 
but im betting he has all the ele%
That t1 was insane
My NOAH is full def%, seems to increase CP chill
Ely would be proud
my sanis too but i rerolled her to get more ele% from glass slipper raid, that cp is pretty huge but im skeptical how much it contributes to dmg reduction on pvp 
That’s still insane, expecting scar and centi to die to give sbs indom
, that’s some cooking

ET learned from boda incident 
It was a gamble for sure
Boda was definitely my inspiration
depending on the enemy ele perhaps, for some reason I prioritize Atk% first
same, now it's harder to squeeze in ele%
he hits me every day 
I think our join date is slightly far apart, probably why i only saw your name once in rookie and then never again
Name hits me every day 
but at least Name is easier to handle than others
Who am I?
starts with T?
nah
eh, i thought you are Txxxxxy from your last screenshot
if that is your name, only once i think, but didn't care for rookie then so i only hit randoms
before 'Besti, and still on OBV?
oh I've left oblivion, i wasn't growing there so
and the leader is bored now
now joined Esta
I saw it
lazy Raid?
Can anyone advice me on this pls
thanks for all the suggestions, I will keep them in mind
something like that , leader said something about getting bored with the game too so that's not a good look
Can anyone advice me on this please
Kind of flex 3.5 RL tbh, coz I'm out of unit to put in the 3rd team, though 1st and 2nd is 3RL and kinda optimize your cp gap
Make it 1RL slower
replacement ?
Team also seems to be under deficit too actually
About 30%
Round 1: Skip, put 1 unit on P5
Round 2: Noah/Biscuit/SBS/Red Hood/Emilia
Round 3: no change
Calculate deficit before attacking
Replace it with a unit that gets you over deficit and slows the team down
Meanwhile in my union, they like Alice
More than 14.5 and you ded from deficit
Maybe someone like alice ig to also boost SBS damage if they're strong cp-wise
@pastel narwhal if during pvp one bracket they will help
man i can't find an ally in my bracket
My union mates are too high lvl to even be there
Imagine
I was with him from CSM colab. I haven't been in that Union, but he's never hit me 
oh, never heard of that name
he's never met you either, I asked him yesterday
I was with 'Name' though since csm, been almost inseparable since then
I never really attacked him when he occupies #1 but after his consistent attacks I decided to take over
I'm either earlier or later in csm when i joined, probably why we won't see ea other in bracket
nah, send message.. I like it
I think is hard
30% cp deficit







