pvp-arena

[keen vapor]

I have the mental illness of thinking I still have Nitro :deadge:

:DoroWalk: :crown wink:

: Red wink:

[velvet sky]

[trail inlet]

cant wait for the RH skin

[keen vapor]

No

Otherwise preview will be misinforming

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

:sip frog:

I'm still not in that server

[rich quail]

I can never see Echo’s emotes

[grizzled bone]

he doesnt have nitro anymore thats why lol

[rich quail]

lol

All I see is sip frog

[velvet sky]

sip frog

[rich quail]

sip

[velvet sky]

frog

[grizzled bone]

[rich quail]

Take this, Echo

[keen vapor]

:why snapped:

[keen vapor]

Morning for you

[rich quail]

Yas

I’m at work so I can’t stay long

[keen vapor]

It's 5 pm for me

[grizzled bone]

Echo is some where in mid-west

[velvet sky]

anyway i couldn’t find anyone else in id’s topic so @glad meteor @trail inlet add me 11516247

[umbral crown]

now in my rookie bracket there is a boi with emi team

[grizzled bone]

you made another account?

[umbral crown]

can test the way of different teams

[rich quail]

2nd account looks good, Ely

3 pilgrims

[umbral crown]

i will steal rh from ely

SSakura needs her

[velvet sky]

on glb

[grizzled bone]

roster is looking good for 2 days

[keen vapor]

[glad meteor]

Global cooking

[velvet sky]

me n1 in rookie & c1 soon-ish

at least there bc jp is doomed

[glad meteor]

Collab time. Let’s hope whale not here

[grizzled bone]

should i make a glb account?

bully Ely

[keen vapor]

Ask yourself if you can manage two accounts

I surely don't

[umbral crown]

cai will get moran on global

[rich quail]

jp is cursed

pls uncurse it

[grizzled bone]

imagine

[umbral crown]

full pvp account, i had a revelation

[grizzled bone]

yeah what if i make a new account just for pvp? lmao

[umbral crown]

infinite gems

[grizzled bone]

[umbral crown]

you would be like me just collecting gems

[grizzled bone]

you spend all your gems

[rich quail]

But what about building up for resources?

You need pve stuff

I would do it on my current account otherwise

[velvet sky]

we waiting for isekai

[rich quail]

With my luck, I’ll have whales up to diamond 5

[umbral crown]

on eva banners which give me 0 SSRs

[umbral crown]

pvp units can carry that part

[rich quail]

It’s so true

[velvet sky]

same

[glad meteor]

Scarlet

[umbral crown]

you will be fine

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

you will be the whale

[rich quail]

Last 2 banners I had next to no luck

Malded so hard in pve content and pulled close to 300 times

Just for 1 s.anis and 0 eva units

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/chime-nikke-goddess-of-victory-smoke-smoking-gif-10328804110751661145

[velvet sky]

brb bet that jerkage hit me again

[umbral crown]

beat him back

[rich quail]

jer-kage

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

make him mald

https://tenor.com/view/stressed-stressed-out-im-stressed-gif-6289320449545116130

[velvet sky]

or maybe it’s sarariman or 3rd whale

too many whales to deal with

[rich quail]

They play while they’re on their smoke break

https://tenor.com/view/admi-nikke-smoke-smoking-cry-gif-10875073961575855078

lol there’s so many gifs of Nikkes smoking

https://tenor.com/view/smoking-nikke-goddess-of-victory-anne-n102-gif-15179999041458633154

It’s like a mahjong parlor in here I swear

[velvet sky]

see it’s sarariman now

doesn’t matter i still have gems

that’s second whale

[umbral crown]

be the whale killah

doro profiles on the way

[glad meteor]

Anyone got a vid of indom sanis vs indom rh/alice

[umbral crown]

not me

i do not use blanc with S.Anis but maybe Echo has

[velvet sky]

[umbral crown]

Ely: know your place

do they gem?

[velvet sky]

no haha

this one also always disappears for like 20+h

[umbral crown]

he was like: let me hit ely before going to work

Ely: not on my watch

[rich quail]

Does bro at least change the locks?

90% of my group does not

I don’t either because 80% cp gap me

[velvet sky]

this one changed teams like 1 day ago

again bc of me 😹

they all change their teams bc of me

[rich quail]

That’s good

I want to learn how to do that better because I am bad at it

Maybe I need to isekai to your group

NOT to fight you

But to fight your malders that change the locks often

I learned a lot just by climbing so high the past week

https://tenor.com/view/cat-climbing-laser-cat-climbing-kitten-gif-11165136693928895077

[velvet sky]

my toxic trait wants to bully him in sp too but kinda doubt id onepan c4 rh with this gap

need at least sr p15 doll on rosy first instead of p6

[velvet sky]

tbh even d1 peeps don’t change anything very often

[rich quail]

Maybe they’re like me

They get bullied by challenger ranks that get knocked down to diamond

Or they are lazy and sink to d4 until they feel like playing again and bully people like me for a warmup

[velvet sky]

me i just overthrow whales to c8+ so they’d gatekeep d1 & c10-9 from me now it’s a constant beefing of me vs 3 whales for c5

no stable c5 for any of you while I’m here….ever

[umbral crown]

[velvet sky]

they actually had everything quite stable in challenger until i started bruteforcing my way from diamond & others copied me too

[velvet sky]

we’ll see maybe we finally get an isekai

[misty drum]

@fiery walrus ight you win. was just having fun with the cooks

[velvet sky]

[fiery walrus]

🙂 I was wondering why you attacked so much I tried some new defense thought it worked and then you started winning again ggs man

[misty drum]

yeah my teams are too inconsistent cause lack of investment. sometimes my team would win and the next time it wouldnt

[fiery walrus]

yeah i really suck at using blanc teams I cant tell on defense but on attack I feel like I always manage to indom the wrong person and lose, and my sanis team is really weak without laplace but I need laplace to make my 3rd team even remotely winnable

[velvet sky]

this mari roll

[coarse lake]

wouldn't emi just die before burst? bscar got down to like 60% hp by the time b2 happened, and she's linked

[worthy knoll]

Hmm, then replace crown to Jackal then?

[coarse lake]

is that more dmg than bscar?

[umbral crown]

Waos, now i remmember to tix her

[worthy knoll]

Was thinking its at least much more faster than BScar, not sure if more damage

You protect yourself immediately with Noah burst

[coarse lake]

would it be safer to do noah/crown/emilia/biscuit/rh

or would that not work

[worthy knoll]

Its safer but would fail if SBS will get indom

Coz Crown will also get one S2 buff

[coarse lake]

I've never seen their sbs get indom

I think the reason why their noise even got it is bc my sbs bursted and did a lot of dmg to noise before they indommed

[worthy knoll]

Yeah coz your SBS hitting noise coz of taunt

[umbral crown]

Yes

[worthy knoll]

SAnis Emilia Biscuit RH Noah

[umbral crown]

We cooking

[velvet sky]

[umbral crown]

You are almost done with OL

Im just missing mats to level up

[coarse lake]

sanis will definitely die here, also what's noah doing there

[worthy knoll]

you'll prolly be bursting at 2.5 RL, and I think you kill Emi immediately

Noah hits Blanc taunts Noise, Noise hits Noah, Noah hits Noise tauntsc SBS too

Initial Noise hit, hits Emi and SAnis

So Emi also hits Noise, doing more gen

I think you can kill Emi quick , and even if SBS burst while indomed, its protected by Noah FC charges with Biscuit🤔

[rich quail]

You got Mari?

[worthy knoll]

Though the higher your Biscu burst the better

[rich quail]

I want to terrorize my group, too

[coarse lake]

noah wouldn't be targeted by bscar

[worthy knoll]

She will

Because by the third RL

Noah taunts Noise, Noise taunts Noah, Noah taunts SBS

[rich quail]

So, for pvp, is Mari the best of the 3?

If so, I’ll pity her after work

[coarse lake]

[rich quail]

Because my luck in pulling is cursed

[velvet sky]

wait for free 5 tickets

[rich quail]

Tickets?

[velvet sky]

last login day

[umbral crown]

Doing the hard way

[velvet sky]

after like 2 days

[umbral crown]

With those tix i will try my luck with rei

If not ...

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-what-huh-will-smith-it-is-what-it-is-gif-13198074

[worthy knoll]

By the time Noah gets taunted by Noise RH is now also hitting Noise

[coarse lake]

which one do you think has the highest odds

Noah/Emilia/Biscuit/RH/Crown
Noah/Emilia/Biscuit/RH/Jackal
Sanis/Emilia/Biscuit/RH/Noah

still doubtful sanis can live to burst in t3

[worthy knoll]

The one with SAnis will depend on your Biscuit burst so she'll be lifestealing high enough at red health🤔

[worthy knoll]

The one with SR doll is one with highest odds I guess

[umbral crown]

Probably

[worthy knoll]

Holy.. I super success at 12%

Just one more and I'll have Laplace+

[dawn wedge]

having a really hard time defending my spots, going down from high challenger to diamond constantly. Any tips on a good defense SP arena teams?

[umbral crown]

Super

Merry for the win

[umbral crown]

In like 10-15 mins will give you some teams

[dawn wedge]

thank you!

[dawn wedge]

thank you! will give that a try, hopefully it can help me hold onto my ranks longer haha

[grizzled bone]

@worn field hey sorry to bother you but if I'm experiencing target skipping issues with Emi (she gets focused fire in a Blanc comp for example) what changes do I have to make?

the most recent one that comes to mind is Scarlet/Blanc/Emi/Rosanna/Biscuit but it happens in almost all my comps

hmm ok

but what if it's a different comp? 😅

I've been trying to attack this Noise/Jackal/Noah/Scarlet/Rapunzel team. So I've tried a Rosanna team or stall team, both with Emi but it's not going well

I've also tried that but it has been inconsistent

I've been trying out different stuff since it's just rookie but it's reminded me I have that Emi problem lol

anyway I'll just do some scalter comps in the mean time

[umbral crown]

oh nice, mine is 5-10-9 but still missing OL but since im missing RH i might use liter meanwhile but im glad to know this comp is working

will save it for later and do some test as well

waos

mine has around 30% atk or a bit more

but not much cs

[grizzled bone]

i'll give it a shot tmrw. Ty for your time

[umbral crown]

in OL i guess Elemental Damage and ATK are the way for SSakura

yeah since Ssakura focus highest ATK unit i think

hahaha

10-10-7 for jackal and 10-10-4 for noah

guess after i finish Ssakura will go with them

and biscuit for the burst

noise and then noah should be fine

noise is a unit that is really used a lot

oh , got it wrong then

because RL too op

being isekaied for a more stable bracket

oh, did not know that

maybe you will get reunited with him again

thats the hard part

maybe you can find someone but then they do not talk

[keen vapor]

splash

Zixk has no overloaded Tia he just like me

They speak Spanish?

[umbral crown]

Did not know that part, does nkt matter which position she is, alwats P1 and P2?

[keen vapor]

Isn't that like the standard? Besides residual, target skip and all those bugs

So they do

you missing the meta combo for SR

Zixk just like me fr

[umbral crown]

I mean she just hits P1 P2

[fiery jasper]

Hello guys, What defense team can I use for rookie arena?

[grizzled bone]

even if p1 and p2 are dead?...

[fiery jasper]

Tysm, I'll try it

[grizzled bone]

whaat. Weird

[rich quail]

I have a video where Laplace does b3 on me

I think she took out 4 members of my team if I remember correctly

#pvp-arena message

It hurts for me to look

But for you it may make your day

She definitely goes past p2 but I dunno if b3 counts or not

[grizzled bone]

i remember this vid

whales are gemming to attack me but wont attack C1 whale

[velvet sky]

culprit behind @rich quail ptsd

[velvet sky]

relatable whales always too dumb to beat each other

[grizzled bone]

you and me til the end of the line... will have whales attacking us

[velvet sky]

me vs 3 whales beefing for c5

curious to see things after reshuffle, maybe if not me then at least 1-2 whales will be isekaid

[coarse lake]

how you guys doing for solo raid? I'm mocking about 4.2bil rn

[ionic sparrow]

bro is already wasting those extra 300 gems for the top 3

[bleak shale]

Don't u still die to scar jack blanc

Since ur going to be a smg into s2

If comp has no biscuit no Moran/noise and no Blanc it sounds pretty dead

[muted stag]

is this a win? @junior briar

[tribal nebula]

Hi everyone !I need some advice on how to beat this guy :

My box :

[junior briar]

u need a bit more burst gen on both to ensure it

[rich quail]

Let’s see if I’m getting beat down to h-e-double hockey sticks from diamond 1

I can only check stealthily, because I’m
still at work

[muted stag]

what to change then?

swop liter out for rapu and bring jackal over?

then add another rocket launcher on t3?

[junior briar]

pepper instead of rapunzel on T1

[muted stag]

pepper gives more burst gen?

btw emillia isnt used yet

[junior briar]

then rapunzel emilia instead of liter noir

[junior briar]

should be

man u prob play more pvp than me at this point

[muted stag]

my pepper sucks bro

[muted stag]

all of my pvp teams is all ur teams u give lmao

[rich quail]

I think the burst gen chart is in the pins

If u really want to know

[junior briar]

as long as CP is fine then its fine

[muted stag]

16.7%

[rich quail]

You have swimsuit Pepper

A person of culture

[muted stag]

isnt it free

[junior briar]

swap centi and emilia and compare cp again?

[muted stag]

or monthly pass

[muted stag]

centi has more cp

[rich quail]

No because I would use it

[muted stag]

emillia only 1 copy it

[muted stag]

probbaly monthly pass then

[rich quail]

If it was free, it could have been like Rapi’s swimsuit

[junior briar]

[rich quail]

Can only get the time it was offered, even when it was free

[junior briar]

then just try the rapunzel and prayge

[muted stag]

cp deficit was like 14.3% i think

[muted stag]

then t3 wht to use instead of rapu

liter?

since cp issue also

[junior briar]

just keep liter

[muted stag]

11%

[junior briar]

thats fine

[muted stag]

yolo i won

[junior briar]

[muted stag]

btw u free to talk about solo raid stuff ( not in this channel tho)

[junior briar]

for a bit yea

actually no i gtg

my bad

[muted stag]

all g

[velvet sky]

what’s your cp with:
vs scarbs - noah/biscuit/emi/rh/anis
vs sanis- scarlet/blanc/centi/rapu/jackal
skip

[rich quail]

Retooling my def on sp

I might need advice

Especially the ability to tinker with it from time to time

[velvet sky]

whale changed teams again wasted 200 gems to find a solulu vs t2

also too sus he was back 6h later now

[rich quail]

I want to fight whales with u Ely

Take me with u

[velvet sky]

r u sure bc literally everyone sync gap me there by 30-52 lvls I’m like the only loser with lowest sync it’ll be even worse for you

bruh why are you back already go to work

is he lurking here or what lmao

[tribal nebula]

I'm centiless 😅
First team 280000 cp approximately and second 260000 (estimate with another nike than centi )

[rich quail]

I’m about to leave in 15 min

Oh you’re talking about bro in your cp group?

Smoke break is over!

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-goddess-of-victory-nikke-marciana-marciana-nikke-teacher-gif-3344669511021559219

[velvet sky]

yes

[covert lintel]

[velvet sky]

right okay good no penalty, then drake should be fine instead of centi

[rich quail]

You’re making me pick up filthy habits again, @pastel narwhal

I swear to Zimbabwe the stress I get put through these days…

https://tenor.com/view/admi-nikke-smoke-smoking-cry-gif-10875073961575855078

[pastel narwhal]

Admi! we'll hve more borgars i promise 🍔

[rich quail]

[velvet sky]

bozo is mad & malding bc he got booted to d1 by a whale & can’t even reach me in challenger anymore (not like he was winning there anyway) right back at ya also changed my def there

had to buy x2 attempts bc i wasted 2 before to execute my revenge but whatever

but yeah waiting before wasting all 5 was a good decision

okay whale went back to work

[velvet sky]

borgars

[tawny vine]

sending 5 games to one person in rookie definitely been there before 😅

[velvet sky]

if i could hit at least x20 times back for free just to bury someone in the depths of rookie hell for that i would

like it’s dumb to buy this many attempts, but for free….just imagine

I’d dig their graves deep

anyway this one was successfully buried by me for targeting, now 12 or 13th or whatever

[frank ingot]

what do you guys usually use in defeating

noise/noah/scalter/rapunzel/jackal in rookie?

[copper creek]

match speed with blanc emi rh probably

[frank ingot]

I see, thanks

will try it next time

[strong spire]

Any help beating this team

I'm not sure how and why, but the Scarlet in the middle seems won't die at all.
It will reach 1 HP, but it won't die, even if all the other teammate is wiped out.

[glacial lion]

Cuz blanc burst keep her alive 10s

[strong spire]

i c

[glacial lion]

Just use noah + biscuit

[strong spire]

tried those

It's always scarlet lasts standing
Maybe he took away scarlet's HP equipment (Armor)...

Edit:
Still does not make sense how Scarlet is always the target of unkillable buff

[glacial lion]

She is atker, she has lowest base hp

Blanc burst prio nikke with lowest hp

[strong spire]

lowest HP, not lowest current HP?

[glacial lion]

if she is lowest hp, what make her not lowest current hp when blanc burst trigger in that team?

[strong spire]

Which is why, I think Noise should get the indomitabilty buff, since most of the atk went to Noise

[worthy knoll]

She damages herself, not just taking damage from opponent

[glacial lion]

noise linked

[glacial lion]

sbs, not scar

[worthy knoll]

Oh its Scalter, I thought you said Scarlet

The if Noise is linked, then they take equal damage

[glacial lion]

noah biscuit lose?

it not impossible but thats rare

[wild patio]

@wise horizon in the end, HSY got the last laugh

[worthy knoll]

SBS has low hp than Noise, Supporter vs Attacker. If both are linked they take equal damage, if damage is equal its a matter of who has the higher max hp which would always be Noise. So indom would be on SBS who has lower hp than Noise and Jackal.. coz like if noise max hp is lets say 2Mil, Jackal 2.2 mil, SBS at 1.7Mil. if these 3 units take equal amount of damage coz of jackal link, then SBS would always take the indom coz she is one with the lowest max hp, meaning lowest current hp as well

[wild patio]

Dont worry, I'll guard c3

[tribal nebula]

Ok thx a lot, i will try

[glacial lion]

how can you lose to that sbs with noah + biscuit?

not enough dmg to trigger biscuit s2 cuz only sbs...

[worthy knoll]

Three plausible way

• If Biscuit is close to Noah, Biscuit dying before she can do a second proc to Noah
• Using 2 defenders, and somehow the other defender takes one Biscu S2 instead of Noah
• Enemy damage output is so strong preburst that it already used up Biscuit S2 pre burst or strong enough to use 2 Biscuit S2 coz it immediately drop to like red zone and Biscuit needed to proc twice on them (partly because Biscuit S2 might be low level too and needed 2 procs)

[glacial lion]

this is his opp team... sbs (without burst) splash not enough to atk pos2 right, noise biscuit enough dmg to do it?

this team should be harmless before burst, and after burst too

[worthy knoll]

Mmh my SBS was able to 20% a Noise before pre burst

Cos of 4 atk lines I guess, was actually surprised she had huge output 🤔

Well again it also depends unit building

[tribal nebula]

I won , thx again 👍

[velvet sky]

[strong spire]

Like I said, opponent scarlet outlast my team, even alone.

My Biscuit have good amount of survivability.

And even if Biscuit triggers, it only helps defender get the invulnerability.
I can't win if my attacker dies first

[strong spire]

This might be harmless if the player got very high level
Because of the DEF growth

It is lethal enough in these level

[glacial lion]

distributed damage mechanic: If the main target has Invulnerability (noah), the damage towards the main targets will be “Immune”. This damage will then “distribute”, spreading 0 damage does not fare very well. This negates most of her damage during this period, which more often than not, will result in the players loss.

she should deal 0 dmg during burst\

can you record your fight? or atleast ss your team

[strong spire]

Noah only last , 3 sec?

Opponent scarlet has 10 sec (Enough for her AOE spalsh 2 times)

[glacial lion]

biscuit duh

[strong spire]

How do biscuit protect my atatcker?

[glacial lion]

you try noah biscuit yet or not?

[strong spire]

Y

[glacial lion]

and whats your team?

noah is main target (cuz she taunt), biscuit give her invul, sbs atk prio noah, she deal 0 dmg to your team

[strong spire]

Like I said,
Even then Biscuit only last for 5 sec

[strong spire]

What to do with the 2nd Splash?

[glacial lion]

its 13s...

[worthy knoll]

Better just show a vid

[glacial lion]

3s from noah, 2 times 5s from biscuit

[worthy knoll]

Its easier to see it

[glacial lion]

why it so hard to send a vid or ss? too shy?

[strong spire]

Anyway, got it with this,

The idea is to put only 1 defender with biscuit

What I want to know, is how does the opponent team function

[worthy knoll]

Defender taunter yes

[worthy knoll]

Just straight through, SBS with indom and Noise heal per sec trying to kill you during their burst.

Your win condition is for Noah to taunt SBS and have biscuit protect them for the entire full burst while chipping damage to them. For that to happen your Biscuit should be alive too for the entire full burst or at the very least 2 sec after Noah teamwide invul goes out. And also no other defender should take your Biscuit S2 aside from Noah

[rich quail]

Can someone explain to me why I got wiped on a 4 on 1?

If it’s Scarlet S2, I don’t understand how it could do this

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-scarlet-gif-2839282335838492550

lucky s2's while linked to jacko

[rich quail]

Is that what it was? My Jackal link killed me?

[glacial lion]

scar s2 has no cd

[copper creek]

scar s2 has no cd and can proc each time she gets touched

[rich quail]

No cooldown you mean?

Oh man… what can I do in this situation, then?

[summer copper]

level up, raise cp, the usual

[rich quail]

Ah okay, so if that guy is like 30-40 levels above me, and this was an SP match, I would probably try to avoid the matchup?

Nothing can be done?

Because I don’t think I can level up that much in a short amount of time

[umbral crown]

and now i wonder... where s your rosanna?

[glad meteor]

Usual counter is Noah,noise,sbs,biscuit,(rapunzel?) i think

[umbral crown]

usual counter is rosanna, ez way

you delete Scar and RH and all good

ET has 44% ATK rosanna but i do not him using her

[rich quail]

Rosy I’m so sorry

[umbral crown]

give munch your rosanna

[glad meteor]

Bsoda/viper/emilia/rosanna/jackal

[rich quail]

Please give me one more chance to use her often and properly

[copper creek]

this f---- solo raid

[rich quail]

Worse than mirror chamber?

Where you almost developed carpel tunnel?

[next lintel]

this solo raid is sick tbh, love it

[granite anchor]

whats your score at?

[copper creek]

worse in the sense its too easy and braindead
mirror chamber was great, i genuinely enjoyed it

[copper creek]

in progress

[granite anchor]

ah, gl
i'm settling with 4.2b and waiting for last day to consider malding

[copper creek]

nice, definitely safe if glb

oh backlog cleared
ely clearing backlog too whew

[glacial lion]

can rosanna dispel reduce dmg taken from doll buff?

[rich quail]

Ah… I guess they couldn’t make it as elaborate because maybe a lot of new players jumping on or returning casuals due to collab would have been frustrated if it was as tough as Mirror Container

[spice trellis]

Interesting question. Is it considered a buff to be dispelled and not a passive?

[glacial lion]

oh right, it not show in buff list... ig ros useless

[spice trellis]

Purple dolls rekt a lot of nuking potential. Nowadays a good Noah noise carry biscuit rapunzel team can tank almost any number

[copper creek]

no

[granite anchor]

can she dispel the dmg reduction cube?

it does show up in buff list i think

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

Yes

Though there’s an order of which the buff’s are dispelled

5 buffs in total,

[terse cipher]

helppp, I need some def comps again for special arena

[copper creek]

**sp - def : **
jackal/scarlet/scalter/x.anne/naga
blanc/emilia/rh/alice/centi
noah/noise/s.anis/biscuit/rapunzel

**min. invest : **
x.anne - burst to 4-7 (4 usually enough, any further at your discretion. mine's at 7)
emilia - 4/7/7 (i'm assuming yours is 4/7/7 and not emi21)
s.anis - 7/7/9 (mandatory) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube mandatory.

quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel

tempering cube (not urgent, take your time with this) at your own discretion,
priority: noah > blanc > other def taunters & units as required.

i do not advise running def teams on atk :
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order.

[terse cipher]

thanks

[glad meteor]

we getting like 200 core dust boxes this week

[whole shell]

tru

due to hard mode

[pastel narwhal]

this is every two weeks-ish now ?

[rich quail]

Yes!

[granite anchor]

yeah it should be biweekly permanently unless they change it. Survey did ask questions about it so possible they change it

[rich quail]

Reset tomorrow

[pastel narwhal]

more books then

[whole shell]

ye

but only 4 days worth

[pastel narwhal]

we are being fattened

[whole shell]

wish there were more rewards 25+ ratio

[rich quail]

Yeah… I was able to boost Naga’s s2 to 9 thanks to oc

[drifting schooner]

what y'all think about this? im using laplace for burst gen and cp purposes, redhood wouldve made this 4RL

[whole shell]

maybe ratio 50 giving like 500 250 100 splits of 1 2 and 3 manuals

[rich quail]

And doing 25 wasn’t as bad as I was expecting

[pastel narwhal]

ratio 50 = enikk summer skin

[whole shell]

or more

[rich quail]

You know if you rearrange the letters and add a “d”, u can spell “nekkid”

So ratio 100 = enikk nekkid skin

[glad meteor]

Level gap + don’t think she has enough time to kill with noise burst?

[drifting schooner]

u mean not enough dmg to power thru noise's healing?

[glad meteor]

I tried a redhood variant, i ran out of time though

[glad meteor]

Pretty much, she also increases max hp,

[drifting schooner]

ya...thats why i wannted to use redhood for the atk buff, so at least she would have a chance, but with redhood, this becomes 3RL vs 4RL, i fear it might be too slow

[glad meteor]

This was a run i did earlier, but i bursted 1rl faster

no noise/jackal though

[drifting schooner]

but doesnt rapunzel heal more/better than noise

the other concern for noise is the taunt tho...

[glad meteor]

Yep

Noise also has damage reduction on s1

[drifting schooner]

damn maybe i should use her team for my defense team as well, lmao

[umbral crown]

[trim fable]

what counters Noise/Noah/SBS/Rapunzel/Jackal in rookie ?

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

If im not mistaken, mirror but with scarley instead SBS

[bleak shale]

A biscuit+taunter team is the answer

[glad meteor]

[coarse lake]

seems like their emilia target skipped onto crown

actually I think everyone did except blanc

don't think it would have changed anything if it was normal targeting though

my rh also changed targeting to their blanc

[umbral crown]

everyone focused Crown

[coarse lake]

multiple whiffs against noah, and all their RLs skipped to crown after they all collectively whiffed their first shots

then a few more whiffs later when noah steals back aggro

https://tenor.com/view/dodge-the-matrix-swerve-lunge-dive-gif-22197111

they still bursted at around 4RL though due to emi extra target

gonna try noah/emilia/rh/biscuit/jackal variant on def to let them test it out

actually nvm that's too fast of a team

[gaunt cypress]

noise + blanc

[gaunt cypress]

almost clutch

and why does emi hit p4 ? instead p1 noise

[worthy knoll]

Your Noah is a pro iframer

[coarse lake]

0 CS

[glad meteor]

SBS Charge time difference I think, she also has some CS OL

[coarse lake]

I feel like maybe p2 emilia might have a chance at staying alive? based on how much dmg biscuit took

then again enemy whiffs helped a lot, and p2 emilia might mean she becomes primary target

[worthy knoll]

I wonder if whiffs are consistent 🤔

[coarse lake]

also not sure if I need crown there

[worthy knoll]

Like if you fight that same guy using the same team every 1 hour, will Noah iframe it every time

[coarse lake]

the hp of my tankiest units is a bit above 2 mil rn, they got 30 sync advantage, so 2-2.5mil for their dps I assume

they took about 3.2mil dmg each?

[worthy knoll]

Does it seem overkill already?

[coarse lake]

yeah I think I need crown

crown is boosting my emilia's atk% by exactly 50% relative to what I have before

100% vs 150% atk boost total

from OL and RH

actually wouldn't that be 25% increase

200% atk boost vs 250%

if so, the dmg without crown would be like 2.7mil

[worthy knoll]

You also got Crown S2 buff

[coarse lake]

huh? what triggers it

[worthy knoll]

Biscuit

You got Crown S2 buff at 04:56, your Emi nuke hit at 04:50, so that nuke had the atk damage buff

[coarse lake]

oh, then I do need crown

the gap between noah shield expiring and emilia shooting is worrying

their bscar got 2 attacks in during it, and noah invuln also ran out, nearly killed p1-p4

[worthy knoll]

Yeah that was why I wanted Crown away

So she won't get Biscuit S2

The original one where Crown was P5, I was only thinking of using her S1 and S2 not included

[umbral crown]

i still think his rosanna should be able to deal with it

[worthy knoll]

Mmh so taunting bursting B3 RH is not a snap, but it will travel slowly until it reaches the taunter? 🤔

[umbral crown]

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-krabs-are-you-feeling-it-now-spongebob-squarepants-squidward-gif-11224623

he has 3 losses now this week, he's feeling my upgrades already

[umbral crown]

feeling the stonks

[glad meteor]

Rei is 2OL right now. Maybe soon I use her as a nuke

Still need attack OL

[pastel narwhal]

oh, i was wondering what 20 liters of Rei meant

[grizzled bone]

did someone need 20 Liters?

[glad meteor]

Xanne strongest 1 buffer for rei i think. I don’t have her

I’m wrong. Red hood is a little better

[lone sequoia]

rh best atk buffer in the game

[umbral crown]

is she?

[drifting schooner]

what about this one

relatively low cp, so i can use other chars as well

[copper creek]

just mirror the opponent team with scalter

[glad meteor]

Enemy using anis with noah buff is interesting

[copper creek]

im guessing this is rookie ?

[drifting schooner]

ye

[lone sequoia]

xanne 77.22% normal buff- RH77.55%of caster atk

[copper creek]

mirror w scalter

[drifting schooner]

how about noah cent sbs emilia jackal

[copper creek]

is your emi 4/7/7 or 21

[drifting schooner]

whats 21

[umbral crown]

10 min*

[drifting schooner]

shes 4/7/7

[umbral crown]

oh nice

[copper creek]

maybe sbs/noah/centi/emilia/jackal
im scared ur noah die immediately
but yeah its fine too

but honestly just mirror it you're probably fine

[drifting schooner]

but 2RL, she cant die that fast can it

[lone sequoia]

that means if your attacker have dupes/cores she can get more atk from xanne buff, but if your rh have cores is more atk than xanne, also more atk for supporter/defender

[copper creek]

you'd be very surprised

[drifting schooner]

damn

[glad meteor]

Xanne only affects attackers

[lone sequoia]

but you can use her S2 with support units against stall teams, just don't get max ammo lines

[umbral crown]

on x,anne?

[drifting schooner]

no ur right, noah died, but the thing is, it didnt feel like 2RL

i felt like i bursted way too late

[glad meteor]

Whiff

[lone sequoia]

S1 on hit heal for supports-S2 anti stall(heals) burst atk buff+revive

[copper creek]

huh why noah p1

[drifting schooner]

uh...

[copper creek]

yea maybe anis instead of emilia
just mirror with scalter if not on penalty seriously

its for the best

[drifting schooner]

i am, anis is too weak lol

even with emilia, im at 90%

[copper creek]

jackal/sbs/noah/emi/centi then

but yea noah p1 is begging for trouble lol

[drifting schooner]

right i forgot jackal link can help survive, i cuoldve just put sbs p1

[copper creek]

i did warn u 🤣

[glad meteor]

Sbs p1 get’s target skipped

[copper creek]

shouldnt unless u have weird cs sht

[drifting schooner]

well no, im stupid, noah shouldnt have died

[pastel narwhal]

It's time

[lone sequoia]

reset*

[glad meteor]

She goes into cover earlier since she has faster ct i think

[copper creek]

hence jackal/sbs/noah/...

[drifting schooner]

ya good point, i put jackal first

[lone sequoia]

you can use a good SG rosanna team with xanne, like priv-SGxanne/rosanna/SG

or another SG p1

[pastel narwhal]

Looks like it did reset. More books!

[lone sequoia]

same season?

[pastel narwhal]

new one

[lone sequoia]

season2 then

i wonder if i will fail at the boss with my first try again

[umbral crown]

looking nice

[lunar pawn]

what's the new burst gen calc spreadsheet? with the noah change

[umbral crown]

check pins from kosmiu

[gilded sluice]

mhmmmm okayge

[umbral crown]

which unit

[lone sequoia]

rh boobs there

[gilded sluice]

giving her out 😄

im more concerned about numbers 🤓

whata coincidence lol

[lone sequoia]

now you can roll for elemental+ammo/cs

[copper creek]

check pins - kosmiu sheet

alternatively if u are running your own sheet,
2rl, 5sg - 24
3rl, 7sg - 36
4rl - 48
^ the figures to edit yourself

[worthy knoll]

Gosh that Laplace surprised me

My Noah is already on tempering cube, no SR doll though, but dang that damage

[lunar pawn]

cheers

[lone sequoia]

synchro diff?

[worthy knoll]

Not really much, just 32

My Noah wasn't even Electric element

[lone sequoia]

4units target your noah

[worthy knoll]

Just 4

[umbral crown]

imagine

[lone sequoia]

to me that looks like normal damage against a "2RL noah"

but you have noahS1 lv10

[worthy knoll]

Even a Scarlet Emi Jackal Centi couldn't put my Noah on red health in 3 RL, this was a first for me

[lone sequoia]

maybe the damage blend from agood scarlet+laplace

[worthy knoll]

Maybe its Noir buff 🤔

The Noir is core 5

Does Noir buff base on her atk?

[lone sequoia]

caster atk

[worthy knoll]

Yeah her atk then

[lone sequoia]

yep

is jackal/laplace

[worthy knoll]

Up to how many percent again at max?

[lone sequoia]

i think is like 12-14% or something like that

S1 lv10 14.08% of caster atk

[worthy knoll]

At that synce core 5, Noir atk prolly at 150k or 160k 🤔

[lone sequoia]

those jumps are from laplace+jackal

[worthy knoll]

So more or less +24k atk from her

Spread out to Jackal Scarlet Laplace and Blanc

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/night-tired-sleep-book-dream-gif-7066473575346356951

[worthy knoll]

Time to build my Noir

[glad meteor]

I got a bsoda super success

It got me a win in rookie

[umbral crown]

[worthy knoll]

Well that Laplace suprised me, had another surprise where I overestimated enemy Rapu

[glad meteor]

Tis’ sniping day

[pastel narwhal]

last day bois

[lone sequoia]

time to x4 elemental line and fu.. all those rapu jackal p5

[copper creek]

Last day before reshuffle. Good hunting everyone!

[dusk burrow]

hmmm is there a way to beat a team like this?
Noah, Biscuit, Emilia, RH, Jackal

[lone sequoia]

last day, time to say good bye to the sp bracket... and then say hi to the same people in 2 days more

[dusk burrow]

by the time Noah's done with the immune... team gets wiped...

[copper creek]

wtf 2 consec days of no rocks...srsly game?

[copper creek]

assuming this is rookie,
blanc/emi/rh/biscuit/centi ?

[worthy knoll]

I'm like the enemy was higher sync, how come your Rapu already low health quick. Then that A2 just had to crit on my Biscuit. Well I didn't expect that Rapu stun at all since I usually lack damage preburst

[dusk burrow]

I need an emilia to counter an emilia

[copper creek]

youre emilialess?

[dusk burrow]

sigh... guess I'll raise her

[copper creek]

4/7/7 enough

[grizzled bone]

Emi is arguably the best PvP unit

[dusk burrow]

not built, so she's just burst gen atm

[copper creek]

why, shes the best pvp unit lmao

anyway theres other ways if u dont want to put resource on her

[lone sequoia]

one of the most flexible units

[dusk burrow]

been ignoring PVP since top 10 usually in rookie.. and top 30 in SP... so yeah... slacc

[copper creek]

this is just the most straightforward one lol

why top30 in sp ... at least top10

[dusk burrow]

the reshuffle made them emilias appear more often...

I'm fine with 2k gems in SP

[lone sequoia]

at some point people without collab units will have to fight those units if many people quit the game

[dusk burrow]

I have yet to see CM units in pvp

[misty finch]

Should I built M.priv or Rei.A for SP defence?

[lone sequoia]

do you need one of them for pvp?

better wait for new units or CA

[dusk burrow]

Maid Priv is nice... but not strong as Scarlet... Rei's better but needs burst gen to outspeed others

[lone sequoia]

if you don't have strong" pvp units you can try to use maid privaty

[copper creek]

if u have to ask, the answer is not yet

[misty finch]

Yeah I don’t have scarlet 😔

[dusk burrow]

yeah... as long as she's strong enough to wipe the team via burst

[misty finch]

So should I still focus on PvE units for now?

[copper creek]

if u're scarletless and need a nuke , maybe 4/4/4 mpriv first
as for rei, at your own discretion

[lone sequoia]

that depends on synchro, your campaign range for clears and units

[copper creek]

lovely as she is and as much as i'd love to wear rei.a's ankles on my ears,
i dont know if u have the mats to prioritise pushing her to 7/7/7

[dusk burrow]

Rei MG... meaning bad burst gen... good at bursting though

[misty finch]

My main bottleneck right now is getting enough weapon EXP to OL everyone I want to

[lone sequoia]

but easy to counter, no kill pressure like scarlet or other teams with a different core

current sr rank @copper creek ?

this SR is like harvester, too easy

[copper creek]

idk about score, i just did a simple 4.2bil run, if i get it great, if not i dont care

[misty finch]

Lvl 221, Ch 26 / 11 hard, main good DPS are Alice, modernia and SBS

[copper creek]

this SR boss way too easy. even if i do well, doesnt fuel my ego

[lone sequoia]

ego gamer xd

[copper creek]

you tell me, who on earth malds in comp and doesnt have ego xd

[grizzled bone]

thanks this won, but barely. Only had SBS and Centi left and came down to the wire

[misty finch]

I really do not feel like malding against the Ch 26 iron shield raptors without RH

[lone sequoia]

me, is the fights are hard and fun in some way, i will spam any content

[keen vapor]

Liter? Crown?

[copper creek]

is this fight hard or fun ... you tell me ...

[lone sequoia]

i play competitive" not for ranks and just for the rewards since i don't like to spend money in competitive" games

[misty finch]

Don’t have 😭

[keen vapor]

[misty finch]

I had to use MW or just Iframe them 😭

[keen vapor]

So me

[lone sequoia]

too easy, nothing new, all the boss skills looks the same to me, you can do healerless runs without cover and is just aim to the center of the screen and quickshot the qte

is more about OLcheck than skills

[copper creek]

exactly..

[lone sequoia]

i tried to use like 7 different alice teams all do the same 1.6b damage

[copper creek]

i will mald in competitive only if the content is challenging and everyone gets skill diffed
otherwise cba

[lone sequoia]

my day 1 teams do like 4.2b

my normal is 4.5 and my new team is like 4.7

no 40% damage jump from mechanics

[glad meteor]

That’s how I got 3% last time

[keen vapor]

Man, I wish I could do that damage

[copper creek]

im 4.2 now, if i need to do a real run should be 4.5, but shouldnt be necessary (nor do i want to, this SR is the most boring and somehow even worse than gd/kraken)

[lone sequoia]

that is really low for a day 1 player, those teams should be doing +2.2b

[keen vapor]

I'm day 362

[lone sequoia]

so +9months account(?

[keen vapor]

Yes

[copper creek]

day 362 is almost a year?

[grizzled bone]

would be cool if it wasn't on Rei...

[copper creek]

so you are year1 player

[keen vapor]

Started when game was almost a year old

[copper creek]

your math is not mathing if u started on 8nov (server join date)

[keen vapor]

I started on last days of Quiry event

My first SSR Miranda

[copper creek]

314*... your math...

[keen vapor]

What is day 1 sir

[worthy knoll]

Wonder when I started 🤔

Though I'm kinda a returnee

[copper creek]

nov 4 2022 - 676 days

[worthy knoll]

Coz I remember the cutscene Anis and Neon where like where have I been

And Rapi was kinda emotional and glad that I was back

[keen vapor]

So, day 362 shouldn't be nov 1 2023 or something like that?

[copper creek]

how many days are there in a year 🙂

[velvet sky]

[keen vapor]

365?

[copper creek]

so what was the date 362 days ago, approximately...? or at least, u can tell me the month for sure

[keen vapor]

I never said ago

[rich quail]

2 rocks

Anyone know what’s the recommended skill investments on Mari?

I had to pity her, but I finally got her

[glad meteor]

Pvp or pve?

[keen vapor]

I preferred to invest in skill 1 and burst

[rich quail]

PvP of course

[pastel narwhal]

Prydwengs:

PVE investment

4/4/4 → 7/4/7 → 10/7/10 (→ 10/10/10)

PVP investment

4/4/4 → 1/1/4 → 4/4/7 (→ 4/4/10)

[glad meteor]

Pvp burst 7-10, skill 1/2 cp pad

[keen vapor]

Burst at 7

[rich quail]

thanks my bestis and besties

[keen vapor]

Why it goes from 4s to 1/1/4

[copper creek]

budget

[lone sequoia]

my mari is 1/1/1, asuka 4/4/4 and rei 4/7/4

[worthy knoll]

Wooh, 3k gems used worth it, I got Mari

[keen vapor]

Now I get why they say Ayanami all the time :deadge:

[keen vapor]

Baka

[rich quail]

I will have to go budget for now because I don’t have the resources so I’ll go 4/4/7

[pastel narwhal]

idk, maybe they in a hurry

[umbral crown]

10/10/10

[worthy knoll]

What is with today, my luck on all games are kinda peak. I got Simona on Sword of Convallaria, Halloween Plachta in Resleri and now Mari in Nikke

[copper creek]

investing in 3 eva units killed my resources, this is what i have left lmao

[worthy knoll]

Is it a sign I should not go out today

[umbral crown]

give me all

[keen vapor]

Resleri?

[copper creek]

hell no, that's nothing and i need them all lol

[rich quail]

10/10/10 is the goal for me eventually, but for right now I need to build her for a week to get her ready to add to my lineup

[worthy knoll]

Atelier Resleriana

[coarse lake]

@worthy knoll I can do Scarlet/Blanc/RH/Biscuit/Jackal now and be within cp, with some feed, this should work right?

[keen vapor]

That's not too bad of a stash :susge:

[copper creek]

biscuit ?

[umbral crown]

but i need them more

[worthy knoll]

Yeah, why biscuit?

[copper creek]

i wish that's true, wait til u see my queue lmao

[keen vapor]

Huh

How many time takes Sword's dailies?

[coarse lake]

for cp reasons

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

show me a bit

[tawny vine]

god all it really took was noah to sit this guy down huh. i'll miss the bracket but not this guy

[coarse lake]

other options are tia and noise

[keen vapor]

Noah game changing

[tawny vine]

noah arc les go

[keen vapor]

:let's gooooo pixel:

[copper creek]

without even counting pvp units (this is pve queue) - exia, laplace+, maxwell, s.anis, modernia, tove, leona, b.soda, m.priv @umbral crown

wont show pvp queue cuz ppl can see ca units

[glad meteor]

I’ve got someone in my bracket who’s in the third union. World’s a small place

[tawny vine]

cryora or the one below?

[glad meteor]

Cryora

[tawny vine]

ah yeah i like them

they were chill never attacked because it was just me and the helm guy

[worthy knoll]

Sword's dailies?

[coarse lake]

if I wanna beef up scarlet more (at 7/7/7 rn, 2 ammo), what do I focus on for skills and OL?

I assume burst and atk/ammo/ele?

s1 doesn't seem to scale very well

[worthy knoll]

Still between S1 or S2, S1 still the better pick if you want a stronger slash

Then ofc burst for higher multiplier

[coarse lake]

the atk buff gain per lvl is very small though

[copper creek]

with your box i'd just stick to 777 tbh

[coarse lake]

it's like 3% more dmg per lvl assumming no other atk buffs

[copper creek]

too much weird sht we have to raise for both SR and CA

[coarse lake]

yeah maybe I just save

aside from rei/mari, I actually don't have any units that really need books

unless I build maxwell

[copper creek]

huh? how

[lone sequoia]

for scarlet depend on team, but for pvp i think 3elemental-3atk-3ammo-+2def and 1 for any of those

[coarse lake]

I don't even use her in manu tower anymore

[lone sequoia]

maybe the crit line like th crit rune in league xd

[worthy knoll]

Well there might be a time you'll be thinking.. if I had just a sliver more of an atk.. well if you are not pvp focused then 7/7/7 is fine

[coarse lake]

oh nvm, forgot about naga

[keen vapor]

Of Convallaria

[coarse lake]

is naga even worth pushing past 10/7/7

idk if s2 invest is gonna give me much returns

I only burst with her in raids, so that's not a big prio

[keen vapor]

Skill investment image guide says yes

But I don't actually trust that

[worthy knoll]

Wdym? How long in terms of time does the dailies take in that game?

[keen vapor]

Since D wife's budget is s2 at level 5

[lone sequoia]

for pve, yes but that depends on how you play the game... the range that you clear stage

[keen vapor]

Unlike level 7 as everyone else says

[coarse lake]

I'm fairly tryhard

lemme pull up dmg formula

[lone sequoia]

before OL patch my range was 40-45% now is like 38%

but if you play campaign at 20%deficit skill above lv5 doesn't matter

[umbral crown]

waos, people can see CA Units

[coarse lake]

so in normal situations, no crit, half uptime range bonus, it would be 1 + (.8517+ .355) + .15 +.5

2.8567 multi

with s2 at lvl 10, it would be 2.9024 multi

that's a 1.6% total dmg increase

yeah I'll leave it for now ig

[misty finch]

Is it worth to +0 OL my supports at this stage in the game for PVP CP pad?

[coarse lake]

wait am I missing a 1 for the default core hit bonus

[misty finch]

My main issues is having low CP on my teams

[lone sequoia]

OL+0 at least, but only if you have the mats or you already finished your pve units

[coarse lake]

it would be 1.2% total dmg increase if I am missing a 1

[misty finch]

I would be putting off leveling PvE OL+3 or OL+5

[lone sequoia]

visor+gloves for dps units no b3support" or supporter units that for pve

pvp OL+0 and the same for dps attacker units

+5visor/gloves

some supports that use HP% for skills need visor+vest

[misty finch]

So that would be the upgrade priority?

I’ve only been doing +4 DPS visor/gloves and +0 the rest before PvP OL+0

[lone sequoia]

for pve? crown-rh-dwife/liter- 1dps for every element then you can go for pvp cores like dps units: scarlet-emi-sanis... and supports noah-rapu-noise-blanc-jackal then you go for burst gen units

[coarse lake]

nvm, biscuit doesn't work

just calced, biscuit has barely more atk than scarlet still

ig I'll use tia

[misty finch]

So I should still prioritise PvE investment over PvP for now? I am missing a few key campaign units from my roster

RH, Crown, Liter, TiGa

[lone sequoia]

the answer is yes, when you reach some synchro lvl range/campaign or when you have resources you can go for pvp

[raven sparrow]

How many days are in an SP arena season please? Is it 12 or 14?

[coarse lake]

investing into all game modes is very draining

[misty finch]

So campaign invest > PvP invest > raid invest?

[lone sequoia]

but the most important thing in pvp is the synchro lvl and the easiest way(no credit card) to upgrade/improve that is from campaign/outpost lvl

[coarse lake]

today should be the last day of SP season

[misty finch]

Rip Asuka/rei then 😭

[ornate pebble]

Can someone please help me with SP arena comp? Sitting around 488k cp total. Currently using:

1. Scarlet / Blanc / Liter / Noir / Jackal
2. Noah / Noise / Laplace (FI) / Tia / S. Anis
3. Diesel (FI) / SBS / Soda TB / Rapunzel / Centi

[lone sequoia]

1day break, from the same sp...even with the reshuffle

[raven sparrow]

I mean how many days total is the duration of an SP season? 14 days? 12? Sorry for bad wording

[misty finch]

13, one day for scoring after

[raven sparrow]

Ahh okay so 13 days of fighting, thank you for the answer

[lone sequoia]

UR is a pve investment and SR is like a mix but more pve

[raven sparrow]

🙇‍♂️

[misty finch]

I think I’d get more gems from PvP invest than investing into SR so maybe I can just use campaign units and have a really cope team 3/4/5??

Cope as in skill lvl ~4

[lone sequoia]

yes, but SR are free" gems and you still need good pve units

[misty finch]

Top 3 challenger is also free gems though 😭

[coarse lake]

yeah pvp is more gems for your effort than sr

[misty finch]

And since I started really late I don’t know how well I can do on SR

[coarse lake]

although pvp is very luck dependent, gotta get the right pvp units (a lot of them are pilgrim or limited) and you gotta get into a good bracket

[misty finch]

Yeah 😔

I’ve been able to keep up with the spenders so far but that might not last for long

Bracket shuffle surely 😭

[coarse lake]

if you're not a pvp tryhard, top 10 should be the goal

[keen vapor]

PVP gaming so rewarding

[coarse lake]

moderate pvp invest with decent luck should get you there

[lone sequoia]

i hate pvp

[misty finch]

Oh yeah that should be easily doable in my current bracket

[keen vapor]

Soon ™

[misty finch]

I’ve been aiming for top 1-3 so far

[keen vapor]

:signal cry:

[misty finch]

Can’t wait to be paired into more whales 😭

[keen vapor]

[coarse lake]

my sp bracket gonna be a nightmare if someone else new joins that can contest in top 3

means everyone's gotta actually try now

my entire sp record as far as I can scroll down is nothing but blue shields, up to 72 days ago

[misty finch]

My current bracket is hell because there’s like 6-7 people after top 3 😭

[coarse lake]

I want it to stay that way

[velvet sky]

if that makes ya feel any better I’ve had whole challenger & d1 full of whales who gap me by 35-52 lvls for pretty much all my time in sp bc i was never isekaid anywhere, so…

[lone sequoia]

it is the same season

[raven sparrow]

Another quick question... If someone in arena SP ranking has quit completely, do they still take up final point rank rewards at end of season when it auto collects arena SP points? Even if they never attacked or logged in once during the season (basically a former whale that quit but stayed near top)

[lone sequoia]

yep 69 days left

[raven sparrow]

Nice.

[pastel narwhal]

eh i thought you meant new rewards on reset or something

why does a season matter?

[lone sequoia]

collect everything at the end of the season, i don't remember if this game need 1hit or an x amount to get the rewards

[raven sparrow]

basically just wondering if the former whale that quit will take up a slot or not

[glad meteor]

If they don’t collect once, their points aren’t collected

[raven sparrow]

so the requirement for the automatic SP point collection is just to collect once any time during the season? interesting

[lone sequoia]

this, and the only change is from smg to AR same core same units.. nothing change from some +45 clear

[raven sparrow]

thank you

[glad meteor]

I think so iirc

[raven sparrow]

i guess I'll find out tomorrow and see whether i get 6th place reward or 7th~10th XD

[lone sequoia]

you can try to snipe a rank to get a better one in the new bracket, that if you don't get new people with better rank

[pastel narwhal]

oh ok, I just stop at 25 anyway

[velvet sky]

manifesting my isekai from all those fffffff— whales

[lone sequoia]

it was fun the 50lv hunt

my first try (lv50) failed at the boss stage when i didn't destroy the missile like 30hp bars left, then the boss get another +200 every try

[pastel narwhal]

if there's more rewards i would But too occupied on both Solo raid and AI on two accounts

[keen vapor]

I don't have AR .... Scar Priv?

[lone sequoia]

they need the 2 rocks milestone every 10 lvs at least

so 2rocks at 35-45-50

[velvet sky]

i thought i was sent back to c7-8 by whales after going back and forth with them multiple times yesterday, guess they rlly don’t want to gem unlike me

[keen vapor]

Yes

[lone sequoia]

ego gamer or gamer ego

[velvet sky]

can’t wait for that doro whale to change teams again bc of me

all whales now change teams bc of me

[pastel narwhal]

i hope me being the mini whale at rookie arena is a sign I'll get isekai'd as the designated 'whale' in next sp arena

[lone sequoia]

the next arena bracket is always an older one

maybe i will hunt again lv50 with 2 AR

[thorn pagoda]

pvp is only bad if you become addicted to logging in every 2 hours and obsess over losing to the point it stresses you out (used to happen to me in the past)
but you eventually get over it and it doesn't bother you after awhile

[lone sequoia]

pvp is bad because this specific style/system

swap ranks have nothing to do with idle games

[thorn pagoda]

true. but the catch is that it gets you more motivated to login and spend more time in the game which is what the devs want

[pastel narwhal]

i like the rookie system better, they get punished for failing and no more position-based

[thorn pagoda]

gacha is pretty much virtual gambling but without $$$
it's predatory

[sour cedar]

and you get more tries

2 daily is too litle ;-;

[velvet sky]

my 3 whales have 6 attacks total, i have only 2

[pastel narwhal]

but you have mammonite skill

[junior zephyr]

the pvp in this game is utter trashhhhh

[thorn pagoda]

imo it would be way worse if we had more than 2 free attempts daily
imagine being targeted 15 times a day
that would make me want to login even more

[lone sequoia]

without $$$"

[sour cedar]

with the current system yes

[thorn pagoda]

really do wonder what they're planning with the locked pvp arena that hasn't been completed yet

instead of 3v3 maybe 6v6

[pastel narwhal]

my work allows me to be online all the time anyway and im a night worker so nothing is lost, but i do agree it's unhealthy for everyone else

[thorn pagoda]

same here

[lone sequoia]

the only way to make a good” pvp mode without shooting themselves in the foot is with lvl cap and a little core buff from mlb or core+3

if is the same sp bracket why would you play against the same people for the same or worse rewards

[thorn pagoda]

everybody here should post their suggestions in the feedback channel
hopefully the devs read all of them

[lone sequoia]

for something interesting you want to play against different people

[thorn pagoda]

or you can message the nikke devs directly through email with suggestions

i sent a suggestion through email and they actually modified the system so that players with 200 points above you in rookie arena can't fight you anymore

[lone sequoia]

and if they don't add lv cap or default, imagine the whale from sub-server +20k losing against f2p from sub- server 300

[velvet sky]

im quitting this pvp crap if it’s same damned bracket & 5v5 im sick of all ‘em already

imagine seeing same bozos for over 1.5 y now like gtfo from my bracket already

[glad meteor]

Let me bully emiless people

[lone sequoia]

i have the cs lines for some of my top10 and i use that for dodge or whiff to lower my speed and all that from playing against the same people over and over again

[velvet sky]

they should start doing reshuffles as in actual RESHUFFLES whole bracket of new ppl every time instead of just throwing in/out 1-2 whales every time & that’s it

[glad meteor]

There’s also synchro diff since people start at different times

There’s a couple of people in global here i think id see if they did

[lone sequoia]

the sub-server thing is a red flag to me in many games

[velvet sky]

how they don’t understand that literally anyone would be sick of seeing same damn ppl every time

[lone sequoia]

here is something needed to avoid killing new players

[thorn pagoda]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1269094248243007621
just found this
you can leave your suggestions in here

[glad meteor]

Yh, I’ve been going at it with the same 2 people

[lone sequoia]

that is for bugs

[thorn pagoda]

it was in feedback, not issues
so idk

[lone sequoia]

the main issue in the game is pvp and UR and all that because rewards and how people play the game mode

[velvet sky]

& whale on top of that

[glad meteor]

The person I’m going up against buys core dust now and again I think maybe there comes a day where I’m cooked

[lone sequoia]

for UR, just add more lvls and increase the cap for kill rewards; add more lvls for milestone rewards and a final dummy boss for rank rewards (top guilds) just make it hard so people can't rush all in the first days

pvp is bad from the start with the rank swap/change

and the only way to make it better is to change the rewards again

some people play for the gems other for the rank badge

[glad meteor]

The whole rank system is designed to make people waste gems

[velvet sky]

ban whales from PvP or give them their own bracket id watch that with popcorn

[lone sequoia]

is bad since they still use the creation date/sub-servers as a guide

and that is also bad since the pvp need synchro lvl

[velvet sky]

yeah penalty sucks

[lone sequoia]

you already wrote about the debuff

was 5 teams normal rewards+guild rewards(?

[copper creek]

imagine champions arena limited to challenger1s only 😂

[velvet sky]

imagine having max invests maxed ols polished lines etc + actual skill to win but penalty be like now im gonna almost nullify all that

[copper creek]

thats the whale bracket for you to watch with popcorn 😂

[lone sequoia]

that is how it should be... if they use the description, well at least full of top10

[ornate pebble]

No ☹️ : I got started around coin rush

[velvet sky]

thissss

[glad meteor]

Makima/Power good for CA?

I know a2 good burst gen and 2b good nuke, but rosanna’d

[lone sequoia]

now i wonder if it will be like a tournament or some sh.t rank with time entry

like DC

[onyx scaffold]

Or ban f2p from champion arena so whales can fight there and u watch it.
Same result

[lone sequoia]

rip game at that point

[onyx scaffold]

Not really

[lone sequoia]

+2k whale losing against 3k whale while kraken+100k laugh on them