pvp-arena

[pseudo arch]

this is for defense, is this ok? I might use this for atk too lol, I have anis and x ane in the pocket if I need change something for atk

[glad meteor]

Your sanis team is really low CP

[pseudo arch]

currently giving ol to moran, so working on it

[glad meteor]

We’re still in the same bracket in rookie. I got 5x by trickste lol

[hollow summit]

blanc unprotected hmm

blanc goes to jackal

2,5rl scarlet-jackal with blanc

if you don't have scarlet then i think you can use Rei or Ein

[worthy knoll]

There is really a stark difference depending how built your SAnis team. Like both of them are the same lineup. But you can notice the difference of someone who is fully SR dolled and one who is not. Like the one I won was like sync 438 while the one I lost to is sync 418.

[hollow summit]

scarlet-blanc-RH-emilia-jackal

[hollow summit]

anis sr15 doll with tempering cube?

or usual resilience

[worthy knoll]

It resilience, just SR15 on all units

[umbral crown]

ty, in few minutes will give you teams. finishing lunch

[hollow summit]

sr15 to noah hmmmm

yeah 17% dmg redux is crazy

[worthy knoll]

Well more like their SAnis hit hard killing Scarlet before their SAnis died

[hollow summit]

my sanis now sr5 and i don't have intention to upgrade it

maybe when electric weak solo raid comes

[pseudo arch]

is pepper with giving sr doll and leave it at lvl 1?

[umbral crown]

if maxed*

@worn field sorry for the ping but how can i cook for a 2B team in defense

[fading ermine]

[umbral crown]

thanks, had no idea about her since i do not own the char

[fading ermine]

haizz maybe im sleep

[glacial lion]

try this: indom sanis, noah biscuit emi, ros scar + cp padding
tbh there is nothing much to do with def team around that sync anymore except cp padding... most player has full non limited nikkes or only missing few niche nikkes

[fading ermine]

I'm sure it's hard to say about the lineup. XD

[lone sequoia]

ade in 2b team(?

[umbral crown]

just wait, someone will cook for you probably me in someminutes

[visual brook]

:/

[umbral crown]

Noah/Rapunzel/S.Anis/Biscuit/Centi
Noise/Blanc/2B/Noir/Naga
SBS/Emilia/Bay/Red Hood/Jackal

[visual brook]

🤌 Merci

Super plat

[umbral crown]

[fading ermine]

Oki

[pale relic]

need advice to beat this

[granite anchor]

I used Mari and it worked.
What b1 buffer would you use if RH was taken?

[umbral crown]

liter...maybe

[lone sequoia]

10min*

[keen vapor]

ASDF learned to cook :deadge:

[pale relic]

Rookie arena

[lone sequoia]

x2 after reset?

[glad meteor]

Yh

[umbral crown]

si

[lone sequoia]

today is day of x2 for 0 drops

[umbral crown]

nope, i will bless you with 4 rocks

last weekend i got over 10

[keen vapor]

He did go from RH in P1 to NoiseNoah with Jackal Scar integrated :deadge:

[vapid barn]

Trying to figure out best positioning here, or does it not really matter ?

[umbral crown]

maybe swapping Noir and X.Anne

[lone sequoia]

noir/rosanna linked?

[vapid barn]

Scarlet, Rosanna linked

[umbral crown]

who are the linked units?

[vapid barn]

I had to nerf Noir lol

[umbral crown]

uwu

[lone sequoia]

looks fine or go with rosanna p4

[umbral crown]

the usual is Scarlet/X.Anne/Rosanna/Noir/Jackal

[lone sequoia]

is a matter of you want 2nd proc for rosanna or xanne can tank some target skips

[vapid barn]

Whatever works best I suppose

[umbral crown]

you can give a try

[sharp beacon]

My hero, thank you

[lone sequoia]

reset*

[umbral crown]

reset*

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

I missed one try I lost two core dust cases forever

[umbral crown]

slacker

[lone sequoia]

time to reroll dispatch

[keen vapor]

Always

[sharp beacon]

Same team for attacking?

[umbral crown]

no idea

[pale knoll]

What would you suggest against this comps in spa?

[junior zephyr]

Rosy I responded to your "sending a message" before you ever said it, and it was - that he was willing to fail to send a message

because hes still ranked below me

and will stay ranked below me

[umbral crown]

[pale knoll]

t1 is bscar rh and t3 is sanis

[umbral crown]

will try to help you on that

[tawny vine]

ahahaha the noah arc finally forced them to attack someone else

I feel for c2 though. they've been chilling since reshuffle

[junior zephyr]

reshuffle suckkks

[umbral crown]

that name of that C2... kinda bard word in spanish

[pale knoll]

thank you👍

[umbral crown]

not really, for me its fun. have to wait for SP

[tawny vine]

probably very fitting based on how they've pvpd last few months

[umbral crown]

waos

[junior zephyr]

its all fine if they slap you into a bracket where you're the top

[umbral crown]

no good at all i guess

[pale knoll]

oh true, I don't have noah on this account

[junior zephyr]

Its pretty lame when suddenly everyone is 20-30 levels ahead of you

[umbral crown]

and we would have around same cp. Codex

[umbral crown]

means you need to open your core dust boxes

[junior zephyr]

yea thats long done

Got thrown in with whales

[tawny vine]

there's always bigger whales so I wouldn't stress about it

[umbral crown]

be the real whale

whats your sync codex?

[tawny vine]

enjoyed the game more when I started focusing on my pve team instead

I'm 264 right now

[umbral crown]

im 250 and our cps are kinda close

796k total cp

biscuit and Ssakura missing some OL

[junior zephyr]

wheres the sync codex at?

[tawny vine]

they were just asking me 😅

[lone sequoia]

++8rocks

[tawny vine]

also yeah 796k is really high for your sync. you'd eat my bracket easy

[umbral crown]

its because i did not applied the rock buff x2

[umbral crown]

a few more OL and we good

[worthy knoll]

When your plan fails coz you have units at better core, more base atk than your main DPS

[lone sequoia]

rosanna debuffs are individual cast or it doesn't count as one?

[umbral crown]

unexpected final

[tawny vine]

I love how every pvp clip with Nero is just shenanigans

[coarse lake]

biscuit beefed up now, my emi team no longer in deficit

wonder if they can still beat me

1 more lvl until 301 spike, will wait until then to do hits, so I have better team comp options

[junior zephyr]

301 spike? its like.. 5k cp

https://tenor.com/view/的9-gif-27299608

[umbral crown]

like 10k

or a bit more

[worthy knoll]

Hmm, if I have Laplace+, maybe I could replace SBS to her 🤔

[tight sorrel]

any tips vs this team? It feels too mirror matchy to me

[sturdy fox]

Whats the best attack/def team I can use for solo arena?

[junior zephyr]

welp I think their emilia is not actually bursting there, so it should be fine?

[mighty haven]

The hell happened here @lunar pawn

[lunar pawn]

your 3 RL whiffed all their first shots

so you didn't kill noise in time to prevent his full burst, and blanc protected alice

gg

[mighty haven]

thats just RNG?

[lone sequoia]

jackal b1 xd

[lunar pawn]

well, not just alice, you lacked damage, why are you even using tia in attack?

[lunar pawn]

it's 2 things, quick battle messes with the battle, it can go either in your favor or against, but more often against, and you lack charge speed probably, so you're whiffing due to being too slow as compared to the enemy

if you already have noah and you're not running a healing comp, you should kick tia out, probably add RH in as the favored b1

otherwise even if you full burst before he can burst, you might not have enough damage to kill noise even

[mighty haven]

frustrating to say the least

[mighty haven]

Only took 200 gems to send a @umbral crown message

[lunar pawn]

I mean

why are you even using alice if you're bursting with scarlet?

[mighty haven]

CP gapping

[lunar pawn]

would slap a burst gen in there instead

and again, why are you spending gems in ROOKIE?

people don't really care if they win/lose there, a lot of people just use it to test teams

[mighty haven]

when you have nothing better to do

[umbral crown]

its not about gems, its about sending a message

[umbral crown]

because Estur wanted to deliver a message

[lunar pawn]

too poor to consider these thoughts

if someone spends gems against me I'm like, dude, it's all yours

[pastel narwhal]

i let them take, then 3:59, then change teams

[umbral crown]

hahahah but people does not think the same

[umbral crown]

but did you get 8 rocks today?

[pastel narwhal]

4+1

[mighty haven]

I got 0 rocks from 3 runs of Ultra S3, fuuuu

You'd expect 1 at least, true pain

[umbral crown]

Nesso stole the remaining ones

[pastel narwhal]

we already know beyond reasonable doubt it's kraken who was the culprit all along

sigh, didn't get ammo for scar, but ele dmg instead

[glad meteor]

Poli deadge

[umbral crown]

not everything is lost

i just want some manu gear for Ssakura or biscuit

[pastel narwhal]

i can still use wingman

[umbral crown]

whats your scar ammo?

[pastel narwhal]

with wingman it's 43, without it's 30+ ish?

[high vapor]

What difference in battle power made you instantly win?

[sturdy fox]

Do I use the same comp for attack aswell?

[umbral crown]

kinda low

[pastel narwhal]

yeah. only 1 ammo line now. it's hard to reroll her since she has 4 atk lines

[high vapor]

Thanks, I guess fighting someone with 25% more power is useless.

[pastel narwhal]

@umbral crown he only won once today, he's probably wondering why my noise is so chomk all of a sudden

[umbral crown]

hahaha

noise op

[tawny vine]

i blinked and there were 5 alices

[pastel narwhal]

^^

^^

[pastel narwhal]

he's probably dealing with rng now, my investments are finally catching up after neglecting my pvp team from the last two solo raids

[pale knoll]

Second team got cooked and I'm not even on deficit 😅

not sbs that's for sure

Can't recall exactly who it was

[worthy knoll]

What are the chances he revived first than enemy Rosanna bursting?

[rich quail]

Ugh… crashed while farming Kraken

I can’t wait to exchange this phone

[pale knoll]

Gonna try it

btw, there's no rounding when it comes to the penalty threshold right?

[keen vapor]

Android

[pale knoll]

I'm at 15.366

alright

[worthy knoll]

What is your phone refresh rate?

[keen vapor]

So close

[pale knoll]

ik

[coarse lake]

I... I think my biscuit now has higher atk than sanis when bursting

[worthy knoll]

[coarse lake]

lemme calc

[keen vapor]

How

[worthy knoll]

That happens if one has higher base atk but slightly lower ol atk lines

While the one with lower base has higher OL atk lines making them highest over all if no other atk buffer but becomes second overall when atk buff comes into place

[pale knoll]

1st one was wayyy to close unlike other times

[coarse lake]

Sanis: 60555 + 33493 = 94,048
Biscuit: 59508 *1.1181 + 33493 = 100,029

now I wonder... is that gonna be a problem

against enemy sanis comp, it would be noah and biscuit getting targeted, which.... idk if I prefer over noah + sanis getting targeted

[keen vapor]

But should be higher regardless of burst

[coarse lake]

hmm need to work on noise, rapu, centi on cp after noah is done with doll

[worthy knoll]

You would prefer that, you SAnis is safe. Biscuit can die if enemy Noah already got her S2 from her

[coarse lake]

ok good, I'll leave it as is then

btw what would be the most effective comp for my rookie trouble assuming cp isn't an issue

although preferably no rapu/noise/centi being used, they might be too far even with 301 bump

noah comps I should be able to get in range soon

[misty finch]

Does this win?

Not sure if CP supress is enough to win with my team

[keen vapor]

I guess...

[pale knoll]

Will try tomorrow👍

[worthy knoll]

@coarse lake an example when against someone with Biscuit atk is higher than SAnis

#pvp-arena message

[coarse lake]

huh

oh yeah my biscuit is beefy as hell now too

[worthy knoll]

It is like a pseudo taunt without actually taunting

[coarse lake]

hmm... would this affect rosa taunt in any way

[worthy knoll]

Rosa taunt?

[coarse lake]

snipe I mean

[worthy knoll]

No, Rosanna only targets attackers, else its position

Not atk dependent

[coarse lake]

hmm ok

[worthy knoll]

Heck even if multiple attackers, she won't go highest atk but first come first serve position wise

[coarse lake]

what about teams like noise/noah/sanis/biscuit/jackal team order is gonna get messy I feel like, unless there's no reason to even use jackal

sanis and biscuit linked

[worthy knoll]

I feel using Jackal kinda miss the purpose

[misty finch]

These are their other teams, do you think there’s a good way to beat them?

[coarse lake]

yeah, but I see a lot of comps doing it, maybe there's a decent reason for it in rookie

[misty finch]

I tried a jackal team against their T1 yesterday but she got target skipped and didn’t get enough burst gen from link 😔😔😔

[worthy knoll]

Like even if your Biscu now pseudo taunt, if SAnis is jackal link, she'll also be damaged

[coarse lake]

I can probably do Noah/Biscuit/Sanis/Noise/Jackal in such situation, noah should get taunt

yeah true...

[worthy knoll]

They can actually be 2 RL from time to time which is good against 2 RL Scarlet teams

[coarse lake]

Sanis/Noah/Biscuit/Noise/Jackal if I use it for feed maybe

[worthy knoll]

I think I fought one Jackal SAnis team before that becomes 2 RL.. well maybe 2.2 or 2.3

Whatever it was, their Noah was able to burst before my 2 RL Scar

[misty finch]

Yeah

[mighty haven]

wao, somebody be cooking Rosanna after reshuffle

[coarse lake]

@worn field got any ideas for this (preferably without using rapunzel or centi), if I use red hood, their emilia will get indom

[worthy knoll]

I think I used
Scarlet Centi Emi RH Jackal

Against SAnis Jackal they blocked me
Against SAnis Rapu, Rapu survived and resu SAnis

[coarse lake]

will be at the edge of cp deficit depending on comps

scarlet isn't an option due to cp diff or jackal link issues

red hood almost required due to cp

[copper creek]

ok now that puts us in weird situation

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

thought about ein, but I don't think 3RL ein can kill their dps fast enough

[umbral crown]

excellent, now noise and which other units are invested?

[misty finch]

Could you explain the team? Gotta slowly learn how this stuff works

[worthy knoll]

You tried that already Ein Emi Blanc RH Jackal?

[misty finch]

Why is s hit banned

[pastel narwhal]

hmmmm scar, lap+, lots on sbs, redhood lines, noise doll, centi ol's+, bisc ol's+, rosanna atk%, even xanne's gear

[misty finch]

I’m guessing there’s low bullet count units for the jackal? Would noise be better than DKW? She had enough stats to be jackal linked

[coarse lake]

not yet, but I'm worried about the consistency of it, if there's a comp I can do at 301 that's more likely to work, I'd rather do that first

[worthy knoll]

Well if you could use Noah Biscuit while not on gap when you are at 301, that is already a surefire way to win

Something like a Noah Noise SBS Biscuit Jackal

[tight sorrel]

no good both of us were around for burst but RH dominated when noah bursts ended

[coarse lake]

noise cp too low

[worthy knoll]

Then Rapunzel

[coarse lake]

even lower

esp with no rh

[worthy knoll]

Well any filler is fine as long its not a defender

Noah (insert flex that will not burst and not a defender) SBS RH Biscuit

[glad meteor]

Viper the main nikke to be in that flex spot i noticed

[worthy knoll]

Rapu Noise should be fine usually but they say they are still gapped even they reach 301 using them

[glad meteor]

[worthy knoll]

Usually you don't really need RH, just outlast indom and SBS

Noah Noise Biscuit SAnis Rapunzel should be doable too against that team

[misty finch]

Would alice work if the opp's team didn't have bay?

And is this why we're not running noise?

And no pepper cuz of jackal right

Is a good way to build atk teams to disqualify units that the def team counters and then try to build a wincon around that?

SBS counters normal scar?

And I guess knowing this stuff is just experience 😔

My alice is higher invest than my SBS if if that'd make hwer worth running

isn't there a risk I die before blanc burst actaully?

[glad meteor]

Offense noah/noise/quiry/biscuit/rh
Defense noah/noise/sanis/biscuit/rapunzel

Offense win?

[misty finch]

Also my alice has too much HP she wouldn't get imdom 😭

How would this work?

[glad meteor]

I meant rapunzel in quiry slot p5 slot for defense, should be still fine assuming quiry can outheal right?

Unbuffed sanis doesn’t hit too hard usually

[misty finch]

@worn field 🙏🙏🙏🙏

Blanc nearly died somehow but she still gave imdom properly

I thought SBS didn't go behind cover when attacking though

Eh whatever

[ashen urchin]

i wonder if i should use my def team for offense?

i dont think i can rely on my high CP team to go over deficit anymore and prob need to rely on RL burst gen

[copper creek]

not adviseable to use def teams on atk.

[ashen urchin]

affirmative LOL

then i would need some assitance with ATK teams

@copper creek if you are willing

and have bunny soda

[rich quail]

Trying to get back c8

Is this lineup ok? Or needs more reworking?

My box

[misty finch]

I swear on auto it looks like she's constantly out of cover

Oh well

[glad meteor]

Rosanna p3 against Emilia bad without jackal

[rich quail]

ugh I guess my t2 is really bad

cp gapping is a nightmare

[glad meteor]

Usually need non sr/rl in p1 to prevent skip

[rich quail]

Yeah… I’m pretty confused as to what to do with the cp gapping

It’s keeping me from doing anything I want to do

So with t3, I figured with opponent Rosanna and Scarlet, I need to work fast before I get 1-shot and then nuked

But if I focus on that, it doesn’t leave me with much for t2

Maybe using Blanc on one of the teams is the key?

I mean good usage of indom

[ashen urchin]

ty!

[rich quail]

I’m afraid I’m at deficit with t3

t1 has Scarlet linked to Jackal

[rich quail]

Scarlet and S.Anis are linked

[umbral crown]

Waos, thats a lot of upgrades

[rich quail]

Linked properly, not in deficit
Will proceed
brb

@worn field u are a super genius

I will learn from this

Thank you so much

My… uh… stash took a hit as well

sorry @keen vapor

[keen vapor]

:pepeh:

Wait, is still 150

[rich quail]

I had to use 30 cases to level up

Insurance

[keen vapor]

I guess is fine

[tawny vine]

it's toxic but anyone ever get the urge to name change and swap avatar to noah just to make fun of the guy attacking you

[rich quail]

@keen vapor What is this all aboot, bringing me up in a channel I never visit?

[wild patio]

Just use real profile

[long chasm]

Can i get counter team for :
Scarlet - sanne - rosanna - noir - anis

Blanc - emilia - redhood - biscuit - centi

noise - rapunzel - sanis- jackal - noah

Team 3 so hard to kill

And all off them very fast burst gen 🥹

[keen vapor]

I ping :pepeh: is not like something you'd be able to miss that way

[long chasm]

This is his team when i copy it

[tacit stratus]

This a W or L?

[ashen urchin]

waiting for R dolls to use efficiently for SR is a drag...and damn near impossible

[rich quail]

I did have a very painful mald session to gain everything for pvp

But I don’t think that was known by many people

[ashen urchin]

would it just be best to yolo SR right off the bat...i dont forsee getting anymore R dolls in the near future since SR is already done for blue dolls

[umbral crown]

@grizzled bone moran is winning, she said: Yes

[keen vapor]

I know

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

I think I can finally switch over to another treasure

[umbral crown]

Laplace+

[ashen urchin]

so for Treasures you have to lvl 15 and SR doll, lvl 30 bond then use treasure specific mats?

seems like a HUGE investment

[keen vapor]

Suggestions?

[rich quail]

I’m thinking Exia this time (prolly for pve)

I’m already working on LaPlus @umbral crown I just need get my SR doll to 15

[keen vapor]

I can't Noah

[keen vapor]

It kinda is

[rich quail]

Why Noah on p2?

[ashen urchin]

sadge..im tempted to go for laplace

[keen vapor]

Is the enemy his decisions

[ashen urchin]

but dont have enough mats to SR upgrade

use my only R RL doll for lap and then can easily get it to 15 to swap to SR

[rich quail]

@keen vapor You have Rosanna?

[keen vapor]

No

[rich quail]

If not, I guess indom time with Blanc

[keen vapor]

I have uninvested Pepper

[rich quail]

Indom SBS would be delectable

[keen vapor]

Is 3RL right?

[rich quail]

I’m not sure but sounds ok

[glad meteor]

~~4x Elemental + atk on ssakura, + s2 10 = ez ~~

[rich quail]

I’m not good with rl stuff

[glad meteor]

No, there’s jackal

Cook dead

[keen vapor]

Centi miraculously got Indom :deadge: smh

[glad meteor]

Maybe in 10 years I can run blanc sbs

When all my dolls/gear aren’t a mess

[keen vapor]

I forgot

@worn field what overload lines should have Noise in relation to Noah?

Def?

Like, fr?

[misty finch]

??????

Same guy as before

[keen vapor]

So, why Noise wants charge speed?

[misty finch]

Somehow scarlet burst before my blanc

[keen vapor]

SP

[glad meteor]

16.67%

[misty finch]

@worn field Is this just RNG? same teams as before

[keen vapor]

Does a single charge speed line proc enemy SG to skip target?

[tacit stratus]

Yeah I changed it to a diff comp and won

[keen vapor]

I cope with Moran uninvested team I know

[rich quail]

I really hope they fix that bug

I want common sense to return to pvp

I also miss using adjutant cube on rl units

[misty finch]

👍 I'll try tomorrow, although I still don't know why my team lost this time

[glad meteor]

If people start loading up cs it’s going to be rough. You need to go in before checking if that team is 3/2.5RL depending on cs on batteries

[misty finch]

T3 was fine it was this team that lost

They somehow outspeeded me this time, jackal burst but blanc just didn't for some reason

[keen vapor]

Oh, I could have done that

[rich quail]

Never mind

keep cs the way it is

[keen vapor]

Vid doesn't uploads...

Is complicated

It did

@ zixk98

Zix key

Is interesting to pronounce

[rich quail]

Is it because target skip to p2 Blanc, causing splash damage to hit Centi?

[umbral crown]

Nice

[umbral crown]

You giving me ideas

[umbral crown]

When 281

[keen vapor]

Is old screen to compare CP increase :pepeh:

[rich quail]

Would a switch in position with RH to p3 and Centi to p4 help?

[keen vapor]

But the shotgun

[rich quail]

I’m 297 rn

[keen vapor]

Naga stupid

[long chasm]

No 5 itu bang

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

You didn't saw the video :pepeh:

[umbral crown]

You getting destro

[keen vapor]

Worse, I got sniped a bit after

At least I tried

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Thats what she said

[keen vapor]

I don't get what could be the context for this one

[umbral crown]

There are things is better you do not know

Now get ready to get your spot back

[keen vapor]

|| :rapurni: ||

[umbral crown]

Send him a strong message

[rich quail]

Echo your constant Blanc problems caused the loss

[keen vapor]

Not on SP reshuffle

[umbral crown]

But you will have same rival for the next 3 months

[keen vapor]

Like, I know SP don't drastically changes

But there's a chance HE specifically gets out so

[umbral crown]

Im just waiting sp re shuffle to change name

[keen vapor]

But that's... He noticed

[umbral crown]

Is that boi here?

[velvet sky]

[rich quail]

Hi Ely

[umbral crown]

Ely C1 soon

[rich quail]

[umbral crown]

Ely C1 soon i heard she whaling 20 levels

[glad meteor]

I know what it’s like to have an annoying whale now

[umbral crown]

Be the whalwee

[rich quail]

I have whales from c1 to c7

[glad meteor]

Got 5x in rookie, time prefect against noah biscuit sbs, 4rl

[keen vapor]

zixk cook for me

[glad meteor]

A lot of whiffing, interesting if i use positioning, such as blanc p2, could make them 3 rl

[rich quail]

That target skip Blanc tho

[keen vapor]

Ammo

[glad meteor]

That’s what I want to happen,
Emi/blanc/redhood/biscuit/jackal for example

[rich quail]

Yeah you never fixed your Scarlet ammo problem, did u @keen vapor

[keen vapor]

I needed to get rocks first

[glad meteor]

But I got a steady comp atm, I think, I’ll stick with that

[rich quail]

YOU SAID THAT OVER A WEEK AGO

[keen vapor]

I barely got any rocks and was overloading

[rich quail]

@keen vapor go open your prison wallet and get out the rocks you’ve been hoarding

[glad meteor]

[keen vapor]

I stopped hoarding rocks already

[rich quail]

Out of all things not to hoard, Echo… you choose not to hoard rocks

[keen vapor]

I needed to get that charge speed

And overload PVP units

[rich quail]

I know it works for burst gen, but it also brings up the burst gen for the opponent, too…

If rl units hit Blanc

[glad meteor]

Yh, if opponent 4 rl, emi nuke will be blocked. if opponent 3rl, emi nuke not blocked.

Giving them extra burst gen can give space for my 3rl emi comp to hit 4rl comps, some though

[umbral crown]

it does not happen very often, go go

[rich quail]

Echo

If your Blanc gets focused down again and you lose because Centi gets indom again, you have to promise to fix your Scarlet ammo problem asap

[glad meteor]

15x in a row no rocks

[rich quail]

How is that possible?

[umbral crown]

bro is bricked

[glad meteor]

No idea, Enough yapping from me for a while

Bricked indeed

[rich quail]

I had no rocks or gear for 4 straight days

Today I got six rocks but no useful chest gear (farmed Indivilia)

[mild moat]

would like to beat this guy, any tips?

[rich quail]

Hoping you get rocks and gear goodies soon, K

[umbral crown]

i do not know why but i always have the hope someone here will ask a tip to defeat me

[rich quail]

H… How would you defeat yourself, Rosy?

[glad meteor]

@rich quail if they fix cs sharing, their opponent could stack cs and their scar jack team would be 2.5 rl

[rich quail]

The CS bug can stay!
I’m sorry I ever mentioned it!

[glad meteor]

I’ve seen a comp I made posted here lol

Saw zixk cook

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

Did… did that person beat you?

[umbral crown]

if it was zixk, of course

[glad meteor]

I had more CP, so I think I cp def’d, didn’t see an attack

[rich quail]

I can use on Rosie?

[umbral crown]

i would

i mean, i did back then

[rich quail]

…

[glad meteor]

I did too

[rich quail]

You mean

I w-

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

next month is scar s turn to get SR doll

[keen vapor]

I discovered

Scarlet Alter is Black lotus in Japanese

Instead of black shadow

[rich quail]

Yeah

It’s because Scarlet’s based on a Korean fairy tale

So her name is based on a character from that story

I guess they changed her name to Scarlet in the English localization because Lotus or Red Lotus doesn’t sound as cool

[keen vapor]

Lotus 🪷

[rich quail]

Echo did you already do the match that zixk cooked for u?

[keen vapor]

I'm out of attempts

[rich quail]

[umbral crown]

100 gems

[keen vapor]

200*

Remember, I got sniped

[umbral crown]

true

ajust your defense

[keen vapor]

No way

[umbral crown]

lacking units?

[keen vapor]

I do lack Rosy and Bay

[umbral crown]

but you know Rosy is high investment

even fi you have her you would need to stop pve to invest on her

unless you have enough books there and equiptment to OL at once

[rich quail]

I’m almost there with Laplace

Soon to be LaPlus (I hope)

[umbral crown]

super

the problem is lacking tetra gear for attacker

is your doll SR already?

[glad meteor]

[rich quail]

I… I saw that

[umbral crown]

nikke 6

[rich quail]

K I can’t unseen the seen

https://tenor.com/view/my-eyes-screaming-spongebob-shocked-burning-eyes-gif-23250584

[keen vapor]

A soul for a soul

[rich quail]

I think my mold garden is ready to harvest

[velvet sky]

[glad meteor]

Get some cp to beat those whales

[umbral crown]

perfectly balanced

[rich quail]

Should I convert the gold ones?

[glad meteor]

Whenever you’re feeling lucky

[rich quail]

Shall I televise this event?

[glad meteor]

Sure

[keen vapor]

I'll watch if it's now

[rich quail]

Okay I’ll open rn
brb

[keen vapor]

Birb

[velvet sky]

birb

[rich quail]

[keen vapor]

SO MUCH POWAH

I was actually waiting there

Mod please forgive ET

[rich quail]

I’m sorry zixk

[glad meteor]

Time to build rosanna biscuit quiry comp

[rich quail]

I needed their dupes bad. I only had base Rosanna and Biscuit

[glad meteor]

Was thinking of using quiry as a b3 for 2rl rosanna comps lol, for offense
Quiry/centi/anis/rosanna/jackal

[rich quail]

Way better to open 10 at a time. First time doing that

[inner scroll]

Just got Scarbs. Where should she go?

[rich quail]

After I build LaPlus, I’m gonna build Quiry and Moran for sure

[umbral crown]

merry gonna teach you the way

[velvet sky]

and rosannas positions too

[umbral crown]

true that hahaha, merry is kinda horni in that way

[rich quail]

I want to be…
Mister Mister

[velvet sky]

Merryster

[umbral crown]

sounds like a good name, 500 gems to be the cool boi

[keen vapor]

Yes

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

I said yes, you lose

Like, I've got blocked by Noah with worse feeds than Anis

[umbral crown]

if your rosy is strong enough to kill emi and RH you win

but you would need to ajust it if you are confident in her

[glad meteor]

Opponent looks like a pvp main. Interesting comps

[chilly furnace]

@spiral onyx how fast Mari gen?

[glad meteor]

Mari has same gen as normal snipers.

[umbral crown]

if you give jackal to rosanna i guess things should work better

[glad meteor]

Their jackal team looks iffy, a little fast

Emi 21 hmm, or maybe target skip too

[umbral crown]

you just need to kill emi and RH with rosy and you win

[glad meteor]

Maybe

Wait

[spiral onyx]

[umbral crown]

keripo, you still doing test with mari?

[spiral onyx]

No, I'm PvPing in Cat Fantasy

Nekopara collab baited me

[umbral crown]

hahaha enjoying the moment

[glad meteor]

We have cook here

[umbral crown]

keripo is sending a strong message there

[inner scroll]

Kay.

[spiral onyx]

Censor added by me for Discord reasons

[chilly furnace]

I only see rei.. correct title where la, i wont ask if i find it

[umbral crown]

i would play it , like it

[spiral onyx]

More SFW Vanilla skin

[umbral crown]

waos

[chilly furnace]

Never use it

Ok bye im done here 👍

[misty finch]

It's so over

[rich quail]

It’s so over, it’s… joeover?

[misty finch]

Why can't the whales just not do pvp 😭

[umbral crown]

be a whale

[rich quail]

See the whale
Be the whale

[misty finch]

😔😔😔😔😔

Is it time to get yet another defence team

[rich quail]

If they cp gapping you, it doesn’t matter that much against whales

Only change defense if people around your cp level keep breaking through

[misty finch]

They have ~8% more CP overall usually so it's not too terrible

[glad meteor]

Bruh, that’s crazy, emi had indom though

[misty finch]

500k vs 550k

Most of them just have scarlet though 😭😭😭

[glad meteor]

Red hood should have died at least, guess rosanna can’t one shot high sync with dolls

[rich quail]

Um
You got 4 crit damage lines and 4 atk lines

That’s really good

[umbral crown]

she lose conceal without jackal

so her nuke is not at 100%

[rich quail]

Yeah, if those people are beating you, yes you might need to change up the def

[misty finch]

Hmm 😔

Do you have any team recs?

[velvet sky]

*beat the whale

[glad meteor]

Yh, the problem was was rosy said,conceal but regardless, if noah couldn’t block emi nuke you lose.

Blanc hit rosanna, guess she ignored conceal. That’s why red hood didn’t die.

Does your centi have charge speed by any chance?

[misty finch]

Previous recs, roster. Alice at 65kCP, most others at ~30k

[rich quail]

I’m not good at team building, but there are some really talented cooks here who can help you make Rookie and/or SP teams

[glad meteor]

ar hit p4 instead of p5 first shot, guess it’s round 2 shenanigans

[rich quail]

Cooking in the shower

[velvet sky]

mustang in the shower

[rich quail]

That was too much Mustang I’m sorry

[velvet sky]

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

[misty finch]

Currently using these teams, idk if there's much I can do better

[umbral crown]

looks fine to me

[misty finch]

Guess it's a pull issue then 😭

[rich quail]

Not sure, but you could always try to improve what you have while trying to get more units

[glad meteor]

Scar noahless

[misty finch]

Most of my opponents don't actually have noah 🤔

[trim fable]

immediately changes their comp
now what do I use to counter?

[misty finch]

Would mari be better than blanc cuz that team's trying to win w/ the AoE nuke anyway?

Is the imdom that valuable?

[glad meteor]

Xanne sac???

[rich quail]

He definitely is

[rich quail]

Yeah very much so

It can make huge last-moment swings that help you win matches

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

@misty finch Here’s an example from yesterday:

Merry helped me and made this team

I was 28 sync levels under this guy and cp gap made it hard to make a team the way I wanted

But indom evens that out if you have the right Nikke, and are able to get indom on that Nikke

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1177116972593463316/1281581455452930069/RPReplay_Final1725623044.mov?ex=66dce5fd&is=66db947d&hm=b6bee2940e28eb5ce84c39a1074350510b15c8bd0534dd0b9c05d22f315e2fc6&

[misty finch]

Ooh yup

I just wasn’t sure whether the imdom was worth the extra AoE damage from mari before

Since rei.a doesn’t have much continuous damage

[rich quail]

I don’t have Mari so I couldn’t tell you how good or bad it is

[misty finch]

We wait on keripo 🙏

[rich quail]

If you can pull him away from Cat Fantasy you may be able to get your answer sooner

[still oxide]

can anyone pls help me figure out the 3 best teams for pvp that i can use for with the nikkes that i have

[trim fable]

rookie

[half grail]

How could I update my Def teams? Idk if any of the newer characters good for PvP so here’s my roster

[drifting schooner]

do i stand a chance here? the cp is like right on 85%, which is why i chose laplace, the only one that meets power and burst gen requirement

[astral rose]

How should I build my PvP teams? I’ve just been using my campaign team but I feel like it’s setting me back, even though they’re the most invested

[round pilot]

Any Laplace(Treasure) team suggestion for Rookie Arena Atk and Def team?

[torpid relic]

Hey guys, this is my current roster and all the nikkes I own. I just got SBS so I'm thinking of replacing someone from the current team. Any suggestions on my team?

[surreal fable]

can someone help me with this? team 1 emilia dies before burst and RH just has too much HP that she doesnt take the indom

nvm, added a cube on emi and she lived lol

[wild patio]

you motherf..

https://tenor.com/view/dare-i-dare-you-i-double-dare-you-samuel-l-jackson-pulp-fiction-gif-12102973

I got 13 attempts left

[shadow pagoda]

lets assume i have every unit whats the generic 3 team setup?

[signal turret]

Finally broke the 200lvl wall and now I'd like to update my 1v1 and 3v3 arena teams. Please Could anyone help?

[shy knot]

help me build 3 team for sp :3

[mighty haven]

could consider this #pvp-arena message - ask @worn field / @copper creek / @umbral crown and have a SS of Nikkes sorted by power so they can cook more

[shadow pagoda]

thank kindly, ima just copy those lol

im not actually in need of a team just wanna set some up

[mighty haven]

Yah, if you're casual, then just think in terms of burst speed

And stall tactic

[copper creek]

for reference

#pvp-arena message

[copper creek]

this is the standard def team we give people if we havent given them anything before - but i also explain why

[shadow pagoda]

very nice i will take these

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

I got sent back to diamond 1

My little reign of terror was fantastic!

[strange linden]

I need some advice for new SP teams please
Losing consistently with the one I got lately

[wise horizon]

13 attempts?

[rich quail]

[wild patio]

1 free daily attempt + 1200 gems

[gaunt cypress]

• scarlet, xane, rosana, noir, jackal

• noah, sbs, lap+, rh. centi

• nois, biscuit, sanis, emilia, anis

• noah, sbs, rossana, emilia, centi

• scarlet, xanne, rh, noir, jackal

• nois, biscuit, sanis, emilia, lap+

[strange linden]

I don't have lap+ yet

[copper creek]

whats ur current def? i cant find it in ur mentions for some reason

[gaunt cypress]

• noah, biscuit, emilia, rh, MW
• sbs, blanc, rapunzel, noir , bsoda
• scarlet, xanne, rosana, centi, jackal

• scarlet blanc rh noir jackal
• noah sbs rosana emilia bsoda
• noise biscuit sanis centi drake/anis

• noah sbs rh bsoda centi
• scarlet xanne rosana noir jakal
• nois biscuit sanis emilia anis

[strange linden]

I was using this

[half grail]

Any updates lmk ty in advance

[glad meteor]

Until zixk or someone makes major changes, you can probably switch poli for mari. Mari is a better buffer and less feed. Hmm, I don’t see xanne

[blissful willow]

• Scar blanc Rh centi jackal
• Noise Noah SBS Noir Drake
• Moran pepper biscuit s.anis Emilia

[copper creek]

Huh?

this wasnt me right?!!?

ok no its not

got confused cuz i remember making u an atk team
and i know i would never tell you to run this

**sp - def : **
scarlet/noir/rosanna/x.anne/jackal
blanc/emilia/rh/alice/centi
noah/noise/s.anis/biscuit/rapunzel

team 1 assumes scarlet and noir are linked units.

**min. invest : **
rosanna - burst to 10, AND 30%++ ATK on OL
x.anne - burst to 4-7 (4 usually enough, any further at your discretion. mine's at 7)

emilia - 4/7/7 (i'm assuming yours is 4/7/7 and not emi21)

s.anis - 7/7/9 (mandatory) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube mandatory.

quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel

tempering cube (not urgent, take your time with this) at your own discretion,
priority: noah > blanc > other def taunters & units as required.

i do not advise running def teams on atk :
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order.

this is still standard def, but executed in a more normal way

your original scar/rosanna team doesnt work because scarlet+scalter+x.anne+jackal+rosanna is 3.5rl if nobody dies
it was probably born from misconception because the standard t1 we usually give to pve box is jackal/scarlet/scalter/x.anne/something

for team2 : i use alice + centi to keep your team 3rl, while using alice to pad cp.
alternatively, you may use 2 clip sgs (bunny soda, drake) to pressure opponents cuz shotguns are painful.
there is merit to doing that, i dont do it because im worried that 2 sgs would feed opposing jackal like a btch in heat - but ultimately, your choice

[strange linden]

I thought healing cube would be better for noise/rapunzel since they'll have a better healing

I have a free slot for quantum too, should I use it on X.anne?

[copper creek]

for heal skills based on caster's max HP, if your caster has more max HP ... you also heal more (noise burst, biscuit s1, s2)

[glad meteor]

Vigor and temper on rapunzel also could help her survive a nuke and res sanis for a clutch win

[copper creek]

anything i didnt mention - use your pve cubes and/or your best sensibilities

just dont throw adjutant on her

[worthy knoll]

Don't be afraid of adjutant. If you need it, place it. Specially if your Noise has equal or less CS than Noah and you want Noah to have the taunt prio

[keen vapor]

I need to use Adjutant on biscuit for CP padding

[copper creek]

he asking about x.anne

[worthy knoll]

If your RL is shy away from 16.67CS, also place adjutant

XAnne is also adjutant

[keen vapor]

Noise overwrites taunt at same charge speed?

Man, I wish SG didn't skipped Noise

[strange linden]

what's the problem with adjutant?

[keen vapor]

More like

We have charge speed sharing bug

[worthy knoll]

Noah Noise same CS or Noise less, Noise gets the taunt priority. Put an adjutant cube to Noise, it becomes Noah taunt priority.

[copper creek]

https://discord.com/channels/946719263866101821/1269094248243007621

[glad meteor]

@rich quail

[keen vapor]

My Noise got some speed and just very recently I got Noah so I didn't know

[keen vapor]

Double OL

[worthy knoll]

Also verified before, if there is a 4.92% CS gap of Noah being faster than Noise, even if you place Noah at P1, and Noise at P5. Noah will still be quicker than Noise at that CS gap. Noise should be hitting quicker cos she is closer to enemy P1 by pythagorean distance, but Noah projectile travel faster, and having 4.92% more CS made her hit enemy P1 first even though Noise just needed to hit on a straight line to P1

[copper creek]

ok im out

i saw "pythagorean distance" and nope

not for a f---ing mobile game

[worthy knoll]

[keen vapor]

Yes for mobile game!

:nodders:

[worthy knoll]

Well I can prolly test later reset

If same CS, if Noah is at P1, at what position will Noise not be taunt priority 🤔

[glad meteor]

depends on who they’re targetting. If they’re targetting p1 then… uhm

[worthy knoll]

Well you don't need to compute it, just drawing an arrow, it'll be obvious that distance of ally P1 to enemy P1 and ally P5 to enemy P1 had a huge disparity

Now if they release a projectile at the same time, you would think the one with a shorter distance should hit first. But if for some reason the one with longer distance hit first, then it just means there is a disparity on projectile speed. So if we can't change the distance, and the projectile speed, only the projectile release we can manipulate if you want to control whoever hits first, which is CS in this game.. and the most flexible way to control CS is use of adjutant cube

[glad meteor]

I remember when my cs was all over the place fun times with taunt

[wild patio]

Good job @wise horizon , my place being taken so I took one below you

Happy now? @umbral crown

[worthy knoll]

Watch enemy Jackal

Anne and Centi hit P1 but Jackal being Jackal

[glad meteor]

Hahahaha, that exact thing used to happen to me lol

[umbral crown]

si

now go beat rain

[wild patio]

Now we give jackee to stay at c3 till season end

[glad meteor]

P5 Jackal targetting p3

[wild patio]

[umbral crown]

vincer just like 130k more cp

go go

[wild patio]

[umbral crown]

ez

[wild patio]

[umbral crown]

you are in range of level

cp not an issue for you

[wild patio]

then why I cant win till now?

[umbral crown]

skill issues

[wild patio]

[umbral crown]

you have merry here to help you win

or even ely expert in deficit fights

[wild patio]

next reset ig

[umbral crown]

to wake up in C8

[wild patio]

my points r good enough to maintain under c6 rewards

[rich quail]

I don’t have any cs lines or adjutant cubes on Noise, Noah, Jackal, Centi, Biscuit. I don’t want to mess with that stuff until the bug is fixed

[glad meteor]

Maybe one day. I go for cs on my batteries, but I should probably focus on raids

Noah technically a battery now

Though if I have more cs, may need to prioritse instant nukes and i’m scarles

[rich quail]

Replace “money” with “Scarlet”

[glad meteor]

[gaunt cypress]

Why did jackal hit p3 and p4? Is it because of CS bug ?

[worthy knoll]

Maybe? I wanna know why too

[gaunt cypress]

so that it means the same thing as this one. his sbs should have aim at p1, but instead it aim at p3 my biscuit. Because of that biscuit almost stole sbs indom from blanc

[worthy knoll]

Err, no? I think maybe it is just because your Biscuit had the lowest def among those units?

[gaunt cypress]

so sbs first burst always aim at lowest deff first ?

[worthy knoll]

It is on Skill 1 description

[gaunt cypress]

omg

okay now I know the reason, thanks

so thats mean my sbs has better deff than supp unit ? tf lmao

[glad meteor]

Dolls, dupes and leg gear

[worthy knoll]

And OL def lines

[glad meteor]

Oh yes

[gaunt cypress]

yeah SR doll lv 10, my biscuit only r doll lv 5

[strange linden]

It's alright she's getting more and more powercrept
Only a matter of time she's getting powercrept in PvP too

[wide kelp]

Blanc ftw with that indomitability.

[astral rose]

Either, really. I would probably use one of the special arena teams for rookie

Thank you!!! I seriously appreciate it 🙏

Would the rookie arena team still outperform my campaign team with lower pts or do I need to heavily invest in them first?

Sorry, this is kind of confusing to me. What do you mean by deficit?

[onyx scaffold]

If your cp is lower than opponent 15.4% your team will get debuffed by system and u will likely lose

Deficit means the difference in your cp and requirement/opponent cp

[astral rose]

Ahh, got it. I had no idea about this 😅 thank you for letting me know

[visual brook]

how to destroy it, defeat it?

[onyx scaffold]

Focus on making 2 teams so u can win 2 games. Unless u want to win 3/3... ?

Also, did u win any matchup

[sharp ember]

Need help on sp arena line up keep failing to beat people in my usual tier for 1 week already.

[visual brook]

First match
2B, emi, blanc, centi, jacal

[onyx scaffold]

Iirc I won Round 2 with Noah Noise Biscuit S.anis Tia

@visual brook

I have been auto throwing scarlet to counter s.anis since forever

Emilia no buffed enough damage?

Tbh I never tried

ty

[sharp ember]

thank you kind sir

[dim sapphire]

question for charge damage on emilia

does it increase the time to hit someone?

[sharp ember]

from 145k to 128k is it ok?

[glad meteor]

Target skip not a thing anymore

[rich quail]

[umbral crown]

Zixk, im trying to cook something against teams but my brain not braining against team 1

Rapunzel

[sour cedar]

what should my 3 teams be? I mainly want 2 good teams and 1 with the leftovers

sp

[umbral crown]

Thanks

[sour cedar]

sadly yes ;-;

I filtered by rarity

tysm

[twilit bay]

Scarlet is bursting before blanc here (due to feed?). What else can I use against this?

Would replacing Emilia with SBS work?

Can't mirror due to a cp gap

Oh wait, just realised, SBS wont work since it'll be >3RL

[umbral crown]

context

but is there a potential with her?

let me know when you have the chance, i can tix only 1 eva unit

super, if there s a chance she works nice with Ssakura would be even better.

might tix her soon then

after you finish give me some ideas to pair her with Ssakura i recently decided to max skills on her so adding mari in a team with her which works would be nice

[lone sequoia]

you can add damage for the snipe like ssakura+pepper

[copper creek]

the burst gen not painful ?

[lone sequoia]

most of the 2 buff teams are like 3RL

[umbral crown]

no problem, i will be looking foward for it

you know im ready for any kind of investment for pvp

nesso, ready for x3 rocks today

[lone sequoia]

reset*

[pastel narwhal]

[umbral crown]

oh i see

[eternal finch]

Team 3 loses

[idle shard]

anyone have counter ideas?

t1 and t2 i'm having tough time with, I was beating t3. so Sanis and scar

[lone sequoia]

++4rocks

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

[umbral crown]

[pastel narwhal]

Almost 1minute

[idle shard]

yes, thats their b3 units for each team

so my t1 is just 1 unit at p5?

cool, I'll try that. also no deficit, so hopefully this works****

ok

[lone sequoia]

T2 need quantum or sbs is enough for 2RL?

well, noise can tank

[idle shard]

okay

wait this is teams 1, 2 and 3?

scalter on there twice

[inner scroll]

Who’s better on the Attack? S.Anis, or Alt Scarlet? (Rookie)

[lone sequoia]

depends on your team; enemy team and investment

[inner scroll]

Just looking generally b

[lone sequoia]

sbs do more damage, but sanis is focus damage

[lone sequoia]

so she can kill some units faster than sbs

[inner scroll]

Team is

[glad meteor]

If no biscuit. Scalter

[inner scroll]

Okay, so leave the team as is then?

[idle shard]

thank you

[inner scroll]

Thanks.

Eh, can’t be bothered to swap teams more than once a season change or when I recruit a large number of units.

[lone sequoia]

but you have 5 presets

[idle shard]

thank you so much zixk. now I gotta see about defending this position

currently have this for def team

[eternal finch]

Centi

Scarlet

T2 with Scalter won no problem.

You good. Scarlet didn;t get the indom on t3

I did
skip (put 1 unit on P5)
Noah/Rapunzel/Scalter/Biscuit/Noise
Scarlet/Blanc/Centi/RH/Jackal

yup, and twice Scarlet didn't get indom on T3

might be CP related then. Scarlet jsut dies and Centi gets the indom. Any recs vs #3 please?

[pale knoll]

They still got killed, rapunzel revived scalter but yeah

[golden bane]

Someone mind explaining this for me? Why are we the same level and limit break levels but he is stronger?

[summer copper]

could be anything from equipment to dolls

[keen vapor]

It failed :deadge:

Worst part is idk where bc of connection issue so I couldn't see the battle

[thorn pagoda]

[keen vapor]

Since Anis (Noah team) has 3 charge speed lines it probably was target skip from Naga towards RH and probably couldn't tank enough

Guess I just forget about beating him right now

Ah right

@rich quail @umbral crown

I'm cursed by target skip

[rich quail]

[velvet sky]

not on my watch whale

anyway where’s my isekai to ez bracket, 2 more days siiiigh

[spiral onyx]

I'm out camping atm but Mari is effectively A+ tier
She provides a top tier buff plus an AoE mini nuke that can help secure the kill if your B3 nuker isn't strong enough. She can also help burn the opponent Bay's cover in case they are running Bay to counter your ApE nuke.
Compared to Crown she is generally more superior due to stronger buff, added damage, and higher burst gen.
Compared to XAnne she provides added damage but no heal/rez and less burst gen.
Compared to Blanc she has better burst gen and added damage but no indom.
So between Mari, XAnne and Blanc, which B2 buffer support you pick will depend on burst gen, Jackal feed, and opponent. None of the 3 are strictly better than each other, it's all very situational.

That said, in my eyes she is SSS+++ tier because she is (canonically) best girl

[worthy knoll]

Did your rookie bracket isekai you?

[spiral onyx]

You can pin the above for now until I'm back in civilization and can do a proper writeup

[velvet sky]

no it just threw out that annoying n1 whale who cpgapped literally everyone & that’s it, everyone else are still same, WHY NOT ME

[worthy knoll]

How is she compared to RH used as buffer if the damage is included?

[spiral onyx]

RH B2 is a taunt lol

Also you can't do direct comparisons because they buff differently

[worthy knoll]

Nah I meant if you would go
2 RL Scarlet RH
Or 2 R Scarlet Mari

[spiral onyx]

XAnne and RH buff atk
Blanc debuffs dmg taken
Mari buffs dmg dealt

To figure out which is "better" you literally have to do the math

Each type of buff is multiplicative so you want as many different types as possible

[worthy knoll]

I mean which is better between the two if you include Mari's damage, which has more likely chance to off Rapu

[spiral onyx]

For example, Scarlet benefits from Blanc/Mari more than XAnne/RH because Scarlet has self atk buffs

[worthy knoll]

Scarlet/Mari/Centi/Emi/Jackal
Vs Scarlet/Centi/Emi/RH/Jackal

[spiral onyx]

From a pure total damage perspective, Mari will almost always come out on top. But Mari's damage can be healed back by a Noise heal tick so it's not always better than max buffing your B3 AoE nuke

[worthy knoll]

🤔

So if RH is max core, RH more likely comes on top?

[spiral onyx]

Again

Do the math lol

[worthy knoll]

[spiral onyx]

It's like asking can core X unit A with gear setup M do more damage than core Y unit B with gear setup N?

I'm not a calculator lol

[rich quail]

I am an Asian who cannot do math

[worthy knoll]

Aye, I just asked coz you didn't include RH in there.. like a comparison when you mentioned compared to Crown, you mentioned generally more superior. Then compared to Anne or Blanc.. where is compared to RH, is she better use and sub out RH in a 2 RL team

[spiral onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/failure-steven-he-asian-failure-management-failure-management-steven-he-gif-15320677352020130093

[velvet sky]

no math pls I’ll summon satan faster while trying than solve math

[spiral onyx]

RH is a B1 buffer so it's not directly comparable imo

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/emotional-mad-damage-emtionaldamage-gif-24318068

[spiral onyx]

Just like how you wouldn't compare RH with XAnne

[worthy knoll]

But.. but.. but.. she is a buffer so can be compared in terms of buffing

[glad meteor]

For 2rl scar we only have a spot for one buffer. Most people use red hood or blanc

[velvet sky]

I’d use xanne…if i had her

[spiral onyx]

Sure, then the exact same thing that I wrote above applies. Literally just replace the word "XAnne" with "RH"

RH buffs by ~70% atk
XAnne buffs by ~70% atk

[spiral onyx]

I'm literally out in the woods right now, I ain't gonna look up the actual numbers nor do the math lol

[worthy knoll]

So she is better than RH as she is with XAnne coz of the additional damage 🤔

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/ayano-toki-nadeshiko-kagamihara-rin-shima-crawl-camping-gif-3622191943295502030

[rich quail]

Aoi Besti my Vesti

[pastel narwhal]

i missed camping

[velvet sky]

camp in sp

[spiral onyx]

Actually real

[pastel narwhal]

[umbral crown]

Iwu

[rich quail]

Take those rocks out of your prison wallet @keen vapor

https://tenor.com/view/wheres-my-wallet-i-lost-my-wallet-oh-no-i-cant-find-my-wallet-realization-gif-16824983

[umbral crown]

Keeipo Yuru camp mode

[pastel narwhal]

don't forget curry cup ramen

[keen vapor]

@worn field

[keen vapor]

It's not Scar team who I presume it failed

[rich quail]

Are you suuuuuuuuuure?

[keen vapor]

:nodders:

No way a team without jackal could burst faster than jackal team itself.... Right @worn field ?

[misty finch]

Does this win?

Idk if noise + biscuit outheals SBS

[wise horizon]

this works? @worn field

[iron valley]

would it work if i replaced Kilo and Sugar with Rei and Alice? I would have Rei burst for screen wipe and shield on Alice, and Alice would kill the rest

Kilo and Sugar don't have the gear upgraded and their skill are upgraded to the minimum required but Alice's gear is Oveloaded and her skill are maxed out and for Rei, i can Overload 3 pieces of gear and upgraded her skill to the minimum required

the other 2 teams are 148k and 166k, while this one is 116k because i lack the gear to upgrade them. doing this change would be the only way to raise it's power (for now)

EDIT: i'm still using your defensive teams @worn field 🙂

which one would be better then? Rei? to replace the screen wipe from Kilo with another one? or Alice?
also. why Sugar has to stay? i see she only buffs other shotguns but she's the only one.

[wise horizon]

in that case, would Blanc / Emilia / RH / Biscuit / Jackal be better?

[misty finch]

It did 😭

SBS might've target skipped to centi actually I'm not sure

Noise died then their naga died, although even naga took a while to kill

RIP the top 3 dream 😔

[sour cedar]

Special Arena (SP) - Defense
Jackal/Rei A./Blanc/Anis/Yuni
Liter/Noah/Ein/Noir/Neon
Moran/Mari/Asuka/DKW/Helm

I just got rosanna where should I put her in?

instead of neon?

[copper creek]

nope rosanna not ur concern atm
requires extremely f-ing high invest

[sour cedar]

oke

[iron valley]

oooooh. alright. thanks for the explanation

[spare whale]

What is a good defense against this team? I have all the nikkes, would just like suggestions to make it harder for this person to attack me since they love to spam attack me.

[velvet sky]

laplus soon

[pale knoll]

Any idea?

[spare whale]

So switch out noah for blanc and keep that same order for defense?

Ok sounds good will try it out, ty

[pale knoll]

Blanc twice

[umbral crown]

[pale knoll]

Everything fine with 1st team, 2nd fight ended up in a 2v1 between my centi and his biscuit+rap.
I think I'm just gonna sit at top 4 until I get noah or smt. Ty anyways

[faint sphinx]

can i get new teams to try for sp arena please

is there any spot i can maybe put alice in for cp boost?