pvp-arena

[coarse lake]

honestly they need to do what they did with overclock

[umbral crown]

beta?

[coarse lake]

have a beta version, make it give like no rewards, or maybe only arena tickets

and have ppl actually test it out

[jolly maple]

champion arena be like 10 comps

[umbral crown]

rosanna without jackal

[glad meteor]

Has to be done lol

[velvet sky]

full R teams

[coarse lake]

burst gen disparity is one of the major issues with pvp rn

[umbral crown]

auto and hope for the best

[coarse lake]

options very limited due to burst gen req

[umbral crown]

and the units

we are missing lot of units

[rich quail]

With all these banners and seasonal returning units, I haven’t gotten a new unit in a long while

I still don’t have Ein, Bay or Maiden

[glad meteor]

Need a better alice for pvp

[coarse lake]

we got plenty of better alices

[rich quail]

I’m too scared to do regular pulls

[coarse lake]

we have more than enough b3 options

[umbral crown]

for nikke2?

[valid aurora]

that'll prob be sooner than champions arena

[glad meteor]

Scalter is sakura, countered red hood is b1 buffer

[rich quail]

No because if I pull on regular I am scared it’ll take away my luck for banner

[umbral crown]

but remember.. not everybody will se sakura, cp deficit would be too much

[umbral crown]

nah, thats not gonna happen

[glad meteor]

There’s only 1 person I’ve seen use sakura

[coarse lake]

rh is just better alice, just use her as b1 buffer at the same time

[umbral crown]

i have not seen the first one yet

[glad meteor]

Her low feed is why I prefer her as b1 buffer over liter/xmica

[coarse lake]

honestly if champ is 5 teams

don't give a damn about feed

you cannot build 5 teams without several giving feed, and they only got 1 jackal anyway

[rich quail]

rh is number 1 imo

[coarse lake]

just slap in clip shotguns wherever you can

[umbral crown]

thats also true, i was about to say it. there is only 1 jackal

[glad meteor]

True. That’s what i did. I wanted the jackal team to have low feed

[umbral crown]

and jackal without rosanna...

[glad meteor]

Lemme cook

[coarse lake]

honestly a theoretical 5 teams with all clip SGs/SGs is very potent (assuming enemy doesn't have makima)

you lose 2 fights due to jackal and noah+biscuit, then what else can they do

pray they got a team that can survive long enough with that p5 pressure? will be hard to do

[umbral crown]

neither of us have makima

[glad meteor]

Yh, also targeting from both sides with pressure

[velvet sky]

ros sg

[rich quail]

Unless it’s a huge mismatch on atk, I’m using Rosie with Jackal as much as possible

[valid aurora]

what am i missing here? since when does jackal also need rosanna??

[velvet sky]

im actually rerolling for ele dmg lines & atk lines on my sgs for just in case ros sg

[rich quail]

Jackal does not need Rosie
But Rosie needs Jackal

[glad meteor]

I tried rolling ele on noir. My rocks were wasted

Nothing but Max ammo

[valid aurora]

alright tyty that might help me cook later on

[velvet sky]

mine has 44% for now

need 1 more ele line

[rich quail]

I tried getting more max ammo for Scarlet

I got more atk

[glad meteor]

24 ammo on noir

[rich quail]

definition of overkill

You need another gun with all that ammo

Double-shotgun-wielding Noir

Sign me up plz

[coarse lake]

they had the chance to introduce dual-wielding shotguns that actually do a lot of auto dmg (2x)

but they just made essentially a clip shotgun

what a wasted opportunity

dual wielding in general in this game is just sad

same dps, only difference is the burst gen is closer to their clip variants

[rich quail]

Zwei, right?

[coarse lake]

yes

[rich quail]

Nowadays the pairs in Nikke really stink compared to Blanc/Noir and Tia/Naga

[umbral crown]

since rosanna does not lose conceal when linked so she can nuke at 1813 rather than 1313

[rich quail]

Clay was a huge disappointment. She can’t beat other mid-invested units at her peak

[coarse lake]

we don't have pairs anymore

maybe some soft synergy, but nothing like what we used to get

[umbral crown]

Zwei and Ein was the closest one

[coarse lake]

nah they're nothing like a pair

[rich quail]

Do they even synergize?

[umbral crown]

Ssakura and Rosy Ocean

[umbral crown]

no idea, i do not have any of them

[coarse lake]

ssakura and rosa ig, but they just are both summer units, lore-wise nothing to do with pairs

zwei doesn't buff ein

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

closest is actually asuka and rei

at least they got some soft synergy, but they also have anti-synergy (rei buffs mostly when asuka isn't bursting)

clay and bay are both trash kit-wise

[rich quail]

Yeah… I may have to pull for all 3 Eva units

But at my current luck, I can only get 1 at worst-case scenario

[umbral crown]

try with gems, if not tix

[rich quail]

Rei and Asuka are also both b3, right?

[umbral crown]

yes

mari B2

[umbral crown]

true

[rich quail]

Yeah I have 15k gems, 30 adv vouchers (once I cash in the 15 at event shop), 200 gold tix, and a prayer

[umbral crown]

and asuka buff fire units

do not remember if bursting

[rich quail]

I guess I could mald in Campaign and tower, but it’ll be more difficult because I’m at cp penalty

[coarse lake]

priority imo is asuka > mari >> rei

[rich quail]

Ah, interesting
Not Mari first?
Then again, we’ll see in two days

[coarse lake]

too many competing b2s for mari imo

might have a niche here and there

while asuka might actually be a fairly often used dps in campaign

[umbral crown]

Yep

I see some good uses in all units

[rich quail]

Good synopsis

I’m on board

Will get Asuka in a few days

I think she could help with Indivilla, since I have to farm her for Biscuit and Noise gear

10/10/10 tho

[coarse lake]

she should be bis dps alongside alice for indy from what I've heard

but then again, not very many ppl are even running indy

[keen vapor]

She needs to do more than my Alice :deadge: both Alice and SBS are doing same damage at the moment

[glad meteor]

Who needs full burst even

[keen vapor]

I am

[rich quail]

Once I finish getting the gear I need, I’ll probably stop farming Indy myself

[umbral crown]

When triple win

[glad meteor]

[keen vapor]

I need to get 3 Tetra attacker chests till that happens

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

I don’t like going against their noah biscuit sanis

Scary

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

You should to learn

[coarse lake]

very scary

[keen vapor]

Honestly, I don't want to either myself

[coarse lake]

depending on invest it's possible you simply can't beat them

[keen vapor]

Nodders

[glad meteor]

[coarse lake]

it's one of those teams where with enough invest it's basically unbeatable (without going into cp diff)

[umbral crown]

[keen vapor]

And that investment is

[coarse lake]

although you might be able to do some weird emi variant where you have a sac p2

tanky enough to survive double buff scar jack, enough dmg to kill any p2 emi

[keen vapor]

Damage as well?

[coarse lake]

and tanky enough that they have to still do blanc emi rh biscuit, with emi in a diff position or with jackal

I've seen both situations happen before

very scary

and sanis high invest invest where you don't lose to any common sanis comp really

maybe a double taunt with high invest nero/lud, but they won't have that near guaranteed

[keen vapor]

[glad meteor]

[keen vapor]

So much investment

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

I would

[keen vapor]

[coarse lake]

add in some atk adjustments so that noise and biscuit are higher atk or something to even counter rosa

should be possible for an optimal sanis comp like that to be made, but the invest will be quite severe

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

/me looks at his mlb OL+5 (x4), SR15 doll S.Anis

[umbral crown]

Hmmm

[glad meteor]

Who needs solo raid 3%

[keen vapor]

I can't

I have to invest in collab units and Quiry team

[glad meteor]

Not me

[umbral crown]

Munch

[coarse lake]

honestly atk adjust prob isn't even needed

[umbral crown]

I just need to steal.one of his frames, dz

[keen vapor]

Me looking at my limit break hoarding:

[coarse lake]

rosa won't be able to 1 tap since supporter

[velvet sky]

she targets p1-2 if no attackers so it’s safe

[umbral crown]

But that S.anis comp would need jackal?

[rich quail]

As long as you have 2 attackers on the team

[coarse lake]

nah, although might need jackal to be anti-scar jack

[umbral crown]

Probably a good team for rookie

[keen vapor]

Rapunzel

Why lose one proc in invincibility on Noah

[coarse lake]

usually the only times when double buff scar jack fails is when the scar isn't that high invest

but maybe you can do something so that noise also dies, so you get a revive, I've seen it happen

[umbral crown]

So which units would that team need?

[glad meteor]

Level gap + noise + doll

[coarse lake]

noise/noah/sanis/biscuit/rapu

[rich quail]

Well, I may know someone who fits that description…

[keen vapor]

I'm still lacking doll for her

[umbral crown]

No noah in P1?

[coarse lake]

idk any counter that 100% works within cp diff, have seen teams fail

noah p1 should be fine too

very expensive comp is the problem

[umbral crown]

Not really a problem for me

[coarse lake]

and you can't really tell when you got enough invest

probably works best when you got sync advantage already

[umbral crown]

Just the dolls will be the problem

[coarse lake]

but not enough to put them into deficit

[keen vapor]

Btw Eon, whats your current synch? 312?

[coarse lake]

298

[keen vapor]

We could be in the same champion arena

[coarse lake]

[umbral crown]

Kinda sus

[glad meteor]

I’ve seen a couple people in global server around my sync, but only 1 person in my bracket

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

inb4 you gotta be in consistent challenger to be in champ arena

[keen vapor]

Me, Eon and ET in the same bracket : Blanc nod:

[rich quail]

@coarse lake I might try the heavily invested Biscuit/Noise package

Do they need to go past OL+0?

[keen vapor]

I'm already Challenger 10

[coarse lake]

tbh no idea, probably

[umbral crown]

Imagine

[coarse lake]

noise probably not, noise dying isn't an issue if you also got rapu

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

but biscuit you want tanky enough to also survive scar nuke

[rich quail]

I need to make sooooo many thicc units

[coarse lake]

honestly idk how poorly invest scar needs to be to fail, I've seen scars fail, but also seen scars succeed by quite a large margin (both with blanc rh buffers)

[keen vapor]

Dolls on the entire team and is fixed

[coarse lake]

I think p1 noise variant might be best

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

eh... noise prob dies to nuke regardless nvm

oh you would need biscuit and rapu to live the nuke

their rh will be hitting p5, so that makes it harder

[keen vapor]

So everyone but Noise dolled

[umbral crown]

Invest more on them

[white compass]

Omg the last pilgrim I never pulled was Noah and I just got her

[coarse lake]

they should get noise b1 in time though

so maybe high noise burst invest

[umbral crown]

I see

[rich quail]

I was about to continue building Noise and Biscuit after getting Scarlet’s and RH’s helmet gears to OL+5

[coarse lake]

actually it depends on exact composition of scar

[umbral crown]

My noise not really invested

[keen vapor]

you can be successful in PVP now

[coarse lake]

I've seen some nuke before noise b1, also some after

[rich quail]

Pretty much 7/10/10 for Noise, then?

[coarse lake]

s1 and s2 aren't that important I think

[rich quail]

7/7/10?

[glad meteor]

They gotta fix visual bugs for icons not showing up in second round of sp

[coarse lake]

maybe noise and noah's skills that give dmg reduction and atk down help if lvled enough

I've only seen the scar side of things, so idk what it takes

but if someone has good invest scar, you prob lose anyway unless sync/cp diff

good invest scar has enemy sanis near dead before burst just from counter dmg

in such a situation you basically need to have rapu b1 burst to make it

or figure out a way to get them to whiff

idk maybe I'm talking out of my ass here, this is just from my personal experiences doing cooks, don't recommend blindly following this, good chance it won't make a diff anyway

[keen vapor]

I'll whiff first

[glad meteor]

Solo raid soon. Time to sr 15 the sanis team lol

I was thinking about running xmica indom sanis. But she dispels debuffs lol

[keen vapor]

I need to SR 5 scar first

[rich quail]

What is the ideal way to build up Scarlet?

I have 10/10/10, working on getting her last gear to OL+5, and her Doll is SR 5ish, but I don’t know exactly what lines would be best for her

[keen vapor]

Can't believe I can't get blue AR dolls

[coarse lake]

I just wanna see what rewards they plan to add in champ arena

if it ain't big enough, I'm not gonna ramp up pvp invest

[coarse lake]

that should be more than enough

[rich quail]

I’ve seen what opponent Scarlets do to my team all by themselves and they almost kill me by normal attacks alone

I want that kind of Scarlet

[wild vine]

Can yall help me cook up a team against this guy?

[keen vapor]

I want that kind of Emilia

[rich quail]

I think I have 3 attack lines, 1 ele dmg line, 1 max ammo line for Scar

[coarse lake]

you prob already have it lol

maybe go for like 3 ammo rolls

should be enough

[rich quail]

Mine is not maximized in lines

But I think I have 2 or 3 atk lines

And 21% cs

[keen vapor]

I couldn't get a single ammo roll :deadge: and I'm short on rocks cuz I'm constantly overloading

[keen vapor]

I failed :deadge: maybe for good cuz I can still nuke Noah teams

I need to get Tia overloaded before getting Emilia ready

[coarse lake]

happening with asuka

trash rolls, burning all my rocks

[glad meteor]

I was going to say 21% emi doesn’t flop against noah teams, but that extra burst gen is insane lol

I spent like 6 rocks on alice today

[rich quail]

Is 21% cs for Emilia still ok?

I have 2 atk lines on Emil btw

[glad meteor]

Yh, that extra burst gen is great most the time

[coarse lake]

it's never failed me yet

exactly 13% CS and lvl 4 s1

[velvet sky]

i prolly deleted all vids with classic stall vs scar ros by now so just have this old-ish one left without biscu & with jackal

[coarse lake]

if they had blanc it would be yikes without biscuit

most scarlets I've cooked with need blanc + rh to have enough dmg

or at least blanc, liter prob works

although using jackal instead of biscuit might be worth it if it means your noah is in time

really depends on how fast their scarlet comp is

[wild vine]

Do these teams look good enough? I'm mostly concerned about team 3

[coarse lake]

oh wait, jackal noah post noah fix prob means it's fast enough

yeah this is fast enough with some quantums + feed from at least their scar and prob also their blanc

really limits your other team comp options though, ig you can do a blanc biscuit for one team

[rich quail]

@keen vapor

My confidence is starting to grow

[grizzled bone]

i'm sick of my bracket

these muddafuggas caught up to C1s CP but refuse to attack or are too dumb to do it

[rich quail]

CONGALA

[glad meteor]

Comfy

[rich quail]

Is this the very definition of a standoff?

[worthy knoll]

Nah it won't. I'll prolly just Scar Jack that. Or anything that will take advantage of that team's slowness

[valid aurora]

i was waiting for laplace treasure next solo raid but i think with this i can cook much sooner than that thank you

[rich quail]

Hi Merry

[keen vapor]

New hoarder

[rich quail]

I’mma end up on a talk show
Talking about keeping everything and my house being so cluttered that I sleep on cd cases

[grizzled bone]

hoard until UR

[worthy knoll]

Just had a fight where I messed up by overestimating the enemy RLs but still won. I expected my Emilia to die, but she didn't

[velvet sky]

[rich quail]

Like a woman scorned

[grizzled bone]

i never noticed the cat sounds until this vid lol

[rich quail]

Emil so good

Biscuit has the dog sounds

[velvet sky]

yeah love those meow meows

my wife has wolf’s AWOOOO at burst which i actually noticed just recently thought it was god from street doing that sound at first

dog

not god

[worthy knoll]

[rich quail]

I think 2 days before The Great Isekai, I’m going to climb as high as I can in my group and see if I end up getting completely knocked back into d5

[fiery jasper]

Hello, could someone tell me what are the best teams for pvp special arena? I'd like to have a decent defense teams

[grizzled bone]

for Liter? is that the dog's name? im blanking right now

[rich quail]

Ely’s waifu is Red Hood

Not Liter

[coarse lake]

liter's dog is volt

[rich quail]

Silly young boy

[worthy knoll]

There are also "paws" animation too whenever she hits an S2 counter

[velvet sky]

also love the nuke

giant fat cat

[worthy knoll]

Comic like "Nyaa" animation too

[rich quail]

Is it like the rabbit falling down for Bunny Soda nuke?

If so, that’s nightmare fuel for me

[grizzled bone]

lol ooh i was lost

[rich quail]

I’m glad I don’t have any Neros in my group

I may have PTSD

[worthy knoll]

It is kinda funny how very lacking in damage the first team is seeing they can't clean up the 3 remaining units left which are already below 50% hp and allowed them to do burst. That guy should have max SR dolls on their SAnis team

[glad meteor]

A lot of people want to run privaty on defense without having the dps

[rich quail]

I guess some people like the 3 second stun too much

[grizzled bone]

she punishes slow teams so makes sense

[glad meteor]

I like it too, but I don’t have investments lined up

[velvet sky]

there’s a meow meow that appears in a huge cloud goes NYAAA and poof

[glad meteor]

They have max ammo on priv

Get their ass

[rich quail]

I kinda wanna see that

I’m sad because I want to build up Moran, Nero, Quiry and a few other units, but I just don’t have the resources

Nero sounds like a unit I would love to use often

[rich quail]

No big animals falling from the sky

I’m okay with this

https://tenor.com/view/hard-breath-gif-20807508

[copper creek]

this is quite a sentence 🤣

[rich quail]

Wait…
Isn’t that a longcat?

[velvet sky]

loooong loooong ma— car

there are plushies like that

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/longlongman-gif-15153155

[grizzled bone]

[worthy knoll]

So Nero can win against this as long she remains alive 🤔

[velvet sky]

meowbliterated

[rich quail]

The first match u didn’t even burst

[glad meteor]

Xanne scar doesn’t full nuke. Now i know

[rich quail]

afaik

That’s nuts

Well, I guess Nero is now at the front of the line for units I will build up next

[glad meteor]

That Nero was cooking

[worthy knoll]

Prolly will be much more stable if same sync

[velvet sky]

idk what is same sync

prolly somewhere in d3-4 slums

[rich quail]

Me neither
I only can fight people 30 lvls + higher

d4 is the dirtiest slum

[worthy knoll]

Nero Treasure... when?

[rich quail]

Um

[worthy knoll]

Indom or self heal please

[rich quail]

She don’t need it

[glad meteor]

Nero stealing makima’s only thing haha

[rich quail]

Isn’t it high time they announce the next character w/treasure?

When was Viper?

June?

[glad meteor]

July maybe

[rich quail]

aw nuts
one more month

[velvet sky]

see that jerkage is too dumb to beat that whale & always targets me

[rich quail]

Why do people pick on the ones they’re going to lose to minutes later?

[grizzled bone]

find address and send mail

[rich quail]

Remember the special word

貴様

[velvet sky]

sending

[grizzled bone]

[grizzled bone]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1134699969371181106/1280052768211599411/ldg8tyx4iyrc1.gif?ex=66d7564a&is=66d604ca&hm=ab5c12186b9647d2a55cf68daa27cf7ff847a60d6faf30135bc84d2e821adfeb&

[rich quail]

[mild moat]

Marciana plz

[velvet sky]

im once again cursing him with a bracket full of whales up to d3 who will send him flying to d4, good luck trying to beat them without me

[grizzled bone]

i want iDoll treasure

[worthy knoll]

Nero or Vesti treasure please

||or Crow||

[exotic wraith]

A harran treasure would be nice

[rich quail]

They need to show her why she’s the true terror of Absolute

Not like the flattie

[velvet sky]

EUNHWA CHEST

sorry CATCH

[rich quail]

People say her treasure should be a push-up bra

[worthy knoll]

If Crow skill 1 increased from 19 to 50 or if possible 80% she'll be a force to be reckon with

[rich quail]

WHERE’S AOI?

[copper creek]

someone else answered this in different server

nuke t1
taunt+biscuit t3

[covert lintel]

how about biscuit in p3?
i kind of having trouble to kill biscuit in p3 or p4

[copper creek]

depends on the rest of team, dont just look at biscuit

[covert lintel]

i used the usual scarlet team(noise noah jackal and emilia) but always lose

[copper creek]

is this rookie or sp?

[covert lintel]

rookie

is it possible because his cores are like that?

[copper creek]

do you mind losing one? theres something im curious to try

[covert lintel]

can't, because today is the last day
and 3 more attempt left.

[worthy knoll]

Someone still cares for rookie rankings?

[copper creek]

im tempted to say scarlet/blanc/rh/centi/jackal

[covert lintel]

i used similar to this yesterday but with emilia and i lost

his noise heal is too op

[copper creek]

not gna work with emilia if its a 4/7/7

[covert lintel]

101010

[copper creek]

the idea is to hope their blanc and s.anis feeds ur jackal-linked units

[copper creek]

thats not the important bit, how much charge speed OL do u have

[covert lintel]

4cs

[copper creek]

oh its an emilia21

[worthy knoll]

Don't think too much, just 2 RL Scar Rosanna it, and make sure their SAnis is hitting the linked units

[copper creek]

oh..

[worthy knoll]

Tho it would be funny if even no B3 burst, enemy still won

Moran Rosanna Biscuit SAnis Jackal is prolly another way to win that, I see it as Noise will most likely get the indom. Team will be 3 RL too from enemy SAnis 5th ammo

[covert lintel]

ok i'll try that if i meet with him again after reshuffle

it's because that noise get the indom, my team failed to win in the end.

double heal from blanc and noise

[pastel narwhal]

[misty finch]

Dang def team still got cleared first try 😔

[strange linden]

Weird there's one guy that consistently beat my def comp (the one on the screen) but he's using this comp on DEF
Is he trolling?

Oh yeah he's definitely trolling
No wonder I'm losing with this CP diff

[crystal surge]

what should I send?

[worthy knoll]

Is that rookie? I also place a slow Nero team on my Rookie

[strange linden]

ye

[worthy knoll]

Yeah, most don't care about that much on rookie, can place some random giveaway team on def

Though I use it to test a team's def rate.. but I rarely get attacked.. prolly coz of all my loss making my rank down while I'm testing some atk teams

[crystal surge]

need full team

Actually wait I got deranked

[rich quail]

Like i keep saying…

TRASH BELONGS IN DIAMOND 4

… not me, ok?

[exotic wraith]

Ur in diamond 4?

[rich quail]

No

People keep trying to drag me there, tho

[exotic wraith]

Smh, you might be trash dude

All the signs are there

[rich quail]

Maybe

[exotic wraith]

You just gotta own it, be the king of trash or something

[rich quail]

Nah, I’m good

[exotic wraith]

🐥

[glad meteor]

Cut em down

[rich quail]

K I almost died to cp gap for 2nd team

That was the only team I could literally play for t2

[pastel narwhal]

what is this...

[glad meteor]

You didn’t

[rich quail]

I know… was 50/50 but I figured I’d try

Learning experience for sure

Those speed rounds on Rookie paying off

[pastel narwhal]

but why do sspeedruns tho you have all the time in the world, unless it's a leeked CA gimmick?

[rich quail]

To help me with the basic stuff.

Because if not I would take over 20 min like when I first started

Now it was just 5 min, but I was able to analyze a little better

[pastel narwhal]

naruhodonks

[rich quail]

Like I knew the only shot I really had was not with Rosanna, but shooting over Noah’s shield while blocking his Scarlet on time

But I was worried about S.Anis making Scarlet go faster

But he had Noise on p5

[pastel narwhal]

it's all about timings :forg sip:

[rich quail]

But I was really happy because this guy was one of the constant double-dip guys on Rookie (which I’ll never understand… once a day is fine ), and he used to be untouchable with cp

[wild patio]

Is this good for moran?

[exotic wraith]

Counting?

[pastel narwhal]

i sometimes do this only for points, whoever is on higher ranks gets me more stuff, nothing personal there though. Except for 'name', been bombarding his team 5x now ea time he attacks and since he can't beat my team he is now buried

[rich quail]

That’s what I did when I started

Now it’s like whatev, see u in sp

[rapid nebula]

Sry if I've interrupted anything, I'm not great in any of the arenas any recommendations based on my box

[glad meteor]

I atk c2, 1hr50m later c3

[rich quail]

When I realized Rookie offers pretty close to the same amount in rewards if you’re 1st or if you’re 30th, I just use it as practice now

[rich quail]

Go hit ‘im back

[glad meteor]

But then im at the mercy of those at the bottom

[rich quail]

Oh… they keep tabs of how many tries u have

[glad meteor]

Nah, i think it’s just 2 people consistently attacking, there’s a third that occasionally hops in

[pastel narwhal]

my whale frien is egotistical since he still kept attacking from c3 to my c2 with the same reward. So i bury his ego on rookie

[glad meteor]

No scarlet is bricking me, rosanna jackal without* scar is bricked

[pastel narwhal]

what do you mean? your scar is bricked?

[rich quail]

Yeah I was wondering what that meant

[glad meteor]

Without scar

[pastel narwhal]

easy, go get scar

[glad meteor]

[rich quail]

I didn’t know u didn’t have Scarlet

[pastel narwhal]

i thought it was just Leeoooo

[glad meteor]

I have scarlet, just not that scarlet

[rich quail]

U can use Emilia

[pastel narwhal]

the tatakae one

[glad meteor]

Emilia in another team

[pastel narwhal]

can still use Rei maybe

[rich quail]

That’s what I do sometimes (and almost kill Blanc in the process due to target skip)

[glad meteor]

I need scar s2 to kill other rosannas

[rich quail]

The way I kill Rosanna is 3 attackers

The Bunny Soda Incident Method

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/nikke-scarlet-gif-2839282335838492550

[rich quail]

[glad meteor]

Would you want to level up emilia to 4/7:7 and is sanis 7/9:9 for arena?

If laplace is treasured that could be useful information for teambuilding?

[rich quail]

And seriously Bunny Soda is the perfect counter to most Rosanna comps due to elemental damage

[pastel narwhal]

my 5/5/5/5 rosanna haven't died to a scar yet , but maybe their scar isn't fully invested at all oh, prolly the link is gone already by then

[glad meteor]

I used noah/biscuit/emi/ros/bsoda against a scar ros jack one time. I won once and got cooked the next time lol

Never tried again

[pastel narwhal]

where was their scar placed?

[glad meteor]

P1

[pastel narwhal]

if scar was on p5 i think ros can die

[rapid nebula]

Currently have Laplace and Diesel treasured

[pastel narwhal]

maybe some really lucky s2's

[glad meteor]

Yes rng

Also bunny soda killed scar in time

[pastel narwhal]

oh w8 a min, my rosy i just 5/5/4/2 nvm

[pastel narwhal]

that bunny again

[rich quail]

The gears, right?

[pastel narwhal]

yiss

[rich quail]

I think my Rosy is 4/4/4/4

Never got around to maxing because I started to fortify my support/defend units

After today… I think I need to fortify them more… I couldn’t use them for the t2 that had really high cp

So if I wanted to do 2RL Scarlet it would be pretty low in cp

[pastel narwhal]

i see you one-shotting stuff anyway, but at higher ranks you may need moar power

[rich quail]

I do… that guy I fought had 300k cp more overall for his team

He whales but his def was respectable. made me think

I’m definitely getting a lot of practice with delicate roster maneuvering to keep out of cp deficit

[worthy knoll]

CP wise yes.. Effect wise, no

[pastel narwhal]

kraken is the way

[whole shell]

Iirc doesn't moran have a last bullet effect

[worthy knoll]

Yeah

[whole shell]

Thought so

[glad meteor]

She gets taunt when she last bullet?

[worthy knoll]

Yup

[whole shell]

Man I wish I could build rosy to have shenanigans with her but I need to build up my raids teams first

[worthy knoll]

Though it usually matters only if you use her taunt off burst

[whole shell]

And a small additional damage to two with highest attack too if I'm not mistaken

[rich quail]

So treat it a little like S.Anis and avoid max ammo rolls?

[whole shell]

No that's her S1 and not related to her last bullet

Mb

[worthy knoll]

Else if she is bursting, her last bullet taunt don't matter if you plan to finish things on 1st full burst so having max ammo doesn't entirely mean she's bricked for her compared to max ammo on SAnis

[glad meteor]

It’s like noise i guess

Not the end of the world but not preferable

[pastel narwhal]

match is probably over by the time she runs out of ammo anyway

[rich quail]

Ah then he can decide if he wants to keep, reroll just that line and lock ele damage, or reroll everything

What element is Moran?

[whole shell]

Elec

[whole shell]

Noise doesn't have last bullet tho?

[worthy knoll]

CP wise its a good boost.. effect wise, it does nothing for Moran

[rich quail]

Oh yeah…
There aren’t too many water units in the game, iirc

[worthy knoll]

You want Noise to go reload asap to proc S2 for a heal to herself after reloading and doing FC

[whole shell]

Ah

[rich quail]

So S1 is the reason why you stick Noise on p1 when Noah is p2, right?

[worthy knoll]

I still prefer Noah P1 though

[wild patio]

[worthy knoll]

Best ones for her is Def% and Atk%.. prolly next best one after those is Crit rate but its so so

[rich quail]

It’s all good, it’s not a brick but in the future you might want to at least reroll the max ammo line

If it was S.Anis getting max ammo, you’d have to get rid of the line asap

[wild patio]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/842387323336917013.gif?size=128

[pastel narwhal]

got higher cp from 1lvl today, but i hate this new interface color it's hard to read

[rich quail]

[worthy knoll]

Want me to test that? I just solved a scenario earlier that is tricky

[rich quail]

Please do

Like I said… I was so worried because this was the only team I could field that would not be in cp penalty

[worthy knoll]

This one is also cp gapped, but well let me pull it up at bit

[rich quail]

But I want to also try just tricky scenarios, especially with units I don’t have

Just to learn

[worthy knoll]

@rich quail
For reference:
Scalter CP: 99k
Noah CP: 75k
Centi CP: 56k

Emi skill level: 4/1/4

[glad meteor]

Old cp formula

[worthy knoll]

❓

[glad meteor]

Nevermind

The numbers looks smaller than I expected

I’m around 300k at 286 on most comps

[rich quail]

Is Emi even useable at 4/1/4?

[worthy knoll]

Still a better gen than any non clip RL at least but not for bursting

[rich quail]

Ok, t1 and t3 are the teams to target of course

[copper creek]

as off burst

[rich quail]

Need 380k for t1, 415k for t3

omg t1 is S.Anis god comp

it would be pretty bad to have scarbs in t1 because no damage if Noah has shield

[glad meteor]

Bsoda

[pastel narwhal]

time for bunny incident

[rich quail]

Definitely could use ScarJack if Scarlet is linked

Good ol 2RL Scarjack with opp Jackal feeding

[glad meteor]

If they release an iron nuke with an actual good multiplier. It’d be nice

Imagine Julia got ammo decrease treasure lol. 3rl she gets full nuke

[rich quail]

t3, no burst gen to speak of. literally just field a decent team with a bit of burst gen, maybe win

But u need 415k min

@worthy knoll
t1: Scarlet//Blanc/Anis/Centi/Jackal
t2: skip
t3: Noah/S.Anis/RH/Biscuit/M.Privaty

I prolly got the cp very wrong, tho

[worthy knoll]

T1 will lose, coz 2 RL Scarlet is weak will end up a Rapu resu SAnis; Noah; SAnis

[rich quail]

I knew it… I need RH buff

[glad meteor]

Liter?

[rich quail]

Or Poli

[copper creek]

2rl scarlet is not good

please refer to scar's s1

u put rh or liter or poli - no more 2rl most likely

[glad meteor]

Blanc is b2 buffer

[copper creek]

theres a reason why we like 3rl 2buff scar

[rich quail]

O yeah
That was a good get on me @worthy knoll

[rich quail]

I need to learn that setup

[worthy knoll]

For the record, the ones I chose to fight was T2 and T3

[rich quail]

Whaaaaaaa

Well, I guess because S.Anis god comp

Understandable

[glad meteor]

Do people still use noah/noise/quiry/biscuit/rh
Or did they ever

[worthy knoll]

Well the T2 fight was gamble but it surprisingly won

[rich quail]

So… lessee… if I chose t1
The two buffs for t1 can be RH and Noir
Scarlet for the nuke
Jackal and Centi for the burst gen

Scarlet/Noir/RH/Centi/Jackal ?

Swap Noir for Liter if not confident of Noir buff level

[worthy knoll]

Will most likely get Noah blocked.

[rich quail]

SKIP T1

[umbral crown]

This target skip

[pastel narwhal]

a wild rosy appears !

[rich quail]

I gotta go home rn but I will mull over a t2 solution

[copper creek]

its the standard
scar blanc rh centi jackal

idk if it works in ur situation (i didnt see the def)

im just saying scar's s1 is a big part od the reason why shes so strong

[umbral crown]

Si

Glad emi is well build to keep killing even after not bursting

[rich quail]

Merry gave me a scenario to test my team attack abilities

It’s like 200 times harder than Bunny Soda Incident Guy’s team layout

[rich quail]

Pepper got… peppered

[lunar dirge]

🤝

[umbral crown]

Kinda

[rich quail]

@worthy knoll did you switch Centi in t3 for Scalter from t2 to meet cp requirements for t3?

I can imagine it would work

[worthy knoll]

I didn't use Centi

[rich quail]

No need for sure

[worthy knoll]

Though you could prolly use her for T3

[rich quail]

But moving Scalter to t3 would really lower the cp in t2

99k is quite the hit

[worthy knoll]

I mean Centi not Scalter

But yeah, I also didnt use Scalter for T2

Though I guess it would prolly be safer if I used her? Well my mind was more focussing to not let T3 at CP gap at least

[rich quail]

Did you actually fight t2 with cp penalty?

[worthy knoll]

Yeah

[rich quail]

Ok now that I know that
Let’s see what you could’ve tried

Huh
t2 has Privaty at b3, with RH buffer

[worthy knoll]

Unbuffed

Why you forgot their P1 is a B1 unit too

[rich quail]

You’re right
This lineup is kinda wonky

[pastel narwhal]

ein it ? ein can bypass stun

[rich quail]

What is with this weird burst description for Jackal btw

[pastel narwhal]

single target nukers

[worthy knoll]

Just think of it as it does nothing

[rich quail]

So if you do something that nukes multiple targets this burst is null

So free burst

like no harm to u burst

[pastel narwhal]

probably meant for Power

[worthy knoll]

Well it was working for 2B.. until they fixed it not to work on her anymore

[rich quail]

So if that’s the case
Centi’s burst is a debuff for opposing team

lowers def for 10 sec

[worthy knoll]

Though this is interesting. Though you'll have to burst first or have Ein alive for it to work

[rich quail]

And Ein has a picky setup

Need two buffs and at least Blanc to keep her alive, right?

[worthy knoll]

Yeah

[pastel narwhal]

invuln at cp deficit is gonna be tricky

[worthy knoll]

Well my T2 is a gamble
I believed in residual to happen, and my RLs skipping their P1 since it a Jackal

Though I didn't 100% think it would win

I just thought it could win given the enemy teams and its privaty bursting

[rich quail]

So… your rls would immediately go to Privaty?

[worthy knoll]

Yeah, something like that

Not immediately but eventually

[rich quail]

Ah… I think I understand now

[worthy knoll]

While also keeping CP in mind

[rich quail]

Because u were in penalty, you knew even though you could focus on Privaty with rl units, they likely would not kill until after she bursts?

So RH would not be able to b3

But then Privaty’s b3 would have to be tolerated, but if u have Noah Biscuit u could avoid getting hit during that period

[worthy knoll]

Mmh? On CP gap its guaranteed Privaty will burst, I just needed the skip to get gen coz I can't use any other clip RL aside from Jackal coz their CP is too low

[worthy knoll]

Your close

[rich quail]

Aoi help me out

[pastel narwhal]

it's raining, i want to nap

[worthy knoll]

Same here its raining

[rich quail]

We had a typhoon a few days ago

[pastel narwhal]

made some hearty souop and feel drowsy

it's typhoon season

[worthy knoll]

Yesterday it was actually a flood in my area

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/one-piece-gif-24497181

[rich quail]

Luckily no real damage here

But in 2018 we had a typhoon that hit really hard

It was so strong it uprooted full-grown trees at a park near my former workplace

It was scary because it made the windows of my apartment rattle so much, I thought they would break

Okay…so I’m also guessing you used opponent Modernia somehow

Likely for Jackal feed

To get you to burst faster

[worthy knoll]

Uhh no

[rich quail]

U did mention 4/1/4 Emil

[worthy knoll]

I wouldn't risk getting damaged if I'm on penalty

[rich quail]

True true

[worthy knoll]

Yeah, mentioned it coz maybe you'll think can just burst with Emi

[rich quail]

Munch said u can use her as off burst

[worthy knoll]

She is still bad at that skill lvl even as an off burst damage. But gen yeah, still good to use

[umbral crown]

Emi?

[worthy knoll]

4/1/4 Emi

[rich quail]

So if we use her for burst gen for t2, then who shall we have burst then?
… hmmm

[umbral crown]

Hmm, kinda wack

[rich quail]

Off burst, tbh… I’m not certain what it means

[umbral crown]

Not bursting with her

[worthy knoll]

Well.. I was thinking about CP so I just used Nikkes on the first 2 rows

[rich quail]

Oh… I see
Let’s take a look
Summer Sakura seems to be strongest

[pastel narwhal]

can maxwell nuke take down deficit linked jackal+2atkers?

[umbral crown]

Zixk did it once

[rich quail]

Summer Sakura is higher than 99k at least

[pastel narwhal]

yeah i remember that clip

[worthy knoll]

That was on penalty?

[umbral crown]

No idea tbh

But i think was not in penalty

[worthy knoll]

Yeah, I can't imagine MW killing on penalty.

[rich quail]

Oh yeah right, I read about that

one-shot Jackal and the 2 linked units if using Maxwell with buffs

[worthy knoll]

Well unless its a so very bad team that allows double buff coz enemy still not yet FB even if the team is slow

[pastel narwhal]

there's probably multiple attack angles on that team since it has no defense, key is surviving enough to land a killing blow

[rich quail]

And you used at least Noah and Biscuit I assume to avoid Privaty stun?

[worthy knoll]

Yah

[rich quail]

So we need to guess the last 3 members

[pastel narwhal]

bsoda for sure

[rich quail]

Bunny Soda is my elemental weakness

Wait a minute

[spare whale]

😔

[rich quail]

Doesn’t S.Sakura have some special deal with her burst?

[pastel narwhal]

bees

[rich quail]

No it’s her s2

full glory

[pastel narwhal]

well, it's chip damage, if that helps

[rich quail]

I could have sworn I read something that if you stack, and you keep hitting the highest attacker, it can spread to the whole team

With S.Sakura

[pastel narwhal]

that's harran's

[rich quail]

Oh… okay maybe I got mixed up

Okay maybe not s.sakura then

I’m sure RH has to be in the team

So Noah/Biscuit/RH/???/???

[worthy knoll]

Well there is prolly one team that can win T1

I got the wrong CP values so I didn't battle T1. I asked them again it was indeed wrong, well I edited yours to be correct in CP. When they asked me they told me Scalter CP is 81k instead of 99k. So I was making teams using that as basis

[velvet sky]

i hate this jerk with a burning passion go think how to beat whales with your brain you dumbass

why this mf always waits for me to beat whales

[pastel narwhal]

he hidin' in the bushes

[velvet sky]

next time I’ll be always checking this jerkage online time

[lone sequoia]

he attack you after youtake them down?

[velvet sky]

he’s too dumb to beat 2 other whales despite being a whale himself so always targets me after i beat those whales

[lone sequoia]

can you beat him?

[velvet sky]

malded a lot of gems & still couldn’t beat t2 nor t3

[lone sequoia]

do we have more atk buffer for pvp?+5sec

[spare whale]

Hello I would like to create a defensive team against this person. They love to spam attack me in arena so I would love to make it more difficult for them to beat me. Thank you.

[lone sequoia]

did you try emi/blanc against T2 and Sg rosanna against T3?

extra 30-40k cp...

[worthy knoll]

Prolly won't work if team is on deficit.. even on no penalty, Emilia sometimes lack in damage

[lone sequoia]

yeah, i saw that

drake OL or fire unit?

maybe nero/drake-noir/biscuit/rosanna/sugar-viper
or poli p1 +another 2strong SG or nero and anis p2
target blanc and that will stop the chain

[rich quail]

Merry this is pretty tough to figure out

I’m tempted to say Noah/Biscuit/S.Anis/RH/Jackal for t2 to utilize Biscuit b2 for S.Anis life steal gimmick

[velvet sky]

she has only 2 ols so cp is kinda……

[worthy knoll]

No lifesteal coz Noah will burst

[rich quail]

Darn it

[worthy knoll]

Do I show the vid now? Or you still try it?

[rich quail]

One more try

[lone sequoia]

a game on how to defeat a random team?

[rich quail]

Then I watch vid then sleep

Merry gave me a riddle for an sp battle

[lone sequoia]

any SG with OL or fire unit with elemental damage?

[rich quail]

@lone sequoia

Here u go

#pvp-arena message

[worthy knoll]

Though maybe that team could work.. the problem is using Jackal could be risky. And if enemy skipped Noah, who ever is there will go down fast

[umbral crown]

Would life steal work against emi?

[rich quail]

Yeah, the opponent t2 has Jackal and Centi, and we need at least some burst gen to block Privaty shield

Noah is one but we need another burst gen

[pastel narwhal]

hmm i don't think privat stun can be blocked

[rich quail]

No?

[velvet sky]

poli, sanis, noir, bsoda, alice, a2 (but 3/4 ols)

[pastel narwhal]

only the dmg but not the stun

[rich quail]

But the attacks the opponent will do while stunned will protecc

by shield

Maybe I have 4 of 5
Noah/Biscuit/???/RH/Jackal

Need a dps

[pastel narwhal]

yes, it balances out

[velvet sky]

was kinda leaving oling drake for later bc still too many units need ols but might do it sooner bc she’s c4 & that gives a lot of cp

[rich quail]

Scalter could probably make sense, because there’s no Noah to worry about

Even with cp deficit, Scalter hits pretty hard

[pastel narwhal]

can still shred without much buffs

[lone sequoia]

does she have elemental damage?

[rich quail]

Okay, my final guess
Noah/Biscuit/Scalter/RH/Jackal

@worthy knoll

[worthy knoll]

Uhh no

[rich quail]

Okay I give up

Good stuffp

[worthy knoll]

I used SAnis but maybe Scalter would be better

Well the T2 I used was kinda wacky, but it was the one I thought can protect while buffing at the same time

[velvet sky]

no ols at all yet

[worthy knoll]

See that perfect frame Noah

[rich quail]

omg I was wondering if u used Noise

But Crown instead of RH?

[worthy knoll]

Yeah, I wanted to ensure they won't attack the non defenders

[rich quail]

Oh, target skip?

[worthy knoll]

Yeah, coz if the Priv, Modernia, RH attack one who isn't protected by Biscuit, its joeover

[rich quail]

Good call
Make that sandwich

[pastel narwhal]

where's your nero?

[rich quail]

I gotta keep that sandwich tactic in mind

[pastel narwhal]

i was expecting something nero in there

[worthy knoll]

That is not mine, its another player's account

[velvet sky]

….well i have 2b with 47% ele

forgor abt her

[lone sequoia]

we need field damage; normal/basic attacks

ammo lines?

[worthy knoll]

They asked me if its possible to beat coz the opponent was one who quitted the game but was a thorn in the rankings. Like a gatekeeper even if the account was dead

[rich quail]

Ohoho, I see something
Crown got Biscuit invuln

[velvet sky]

68.93%

[lone sequoia]

+100?

[rich quail]

So because Crown was on p2, Noah p1, and Biscuit on p3, target skip was on Crown

So she draws fire until Noah is ready to shield, leaving your team with less damage

[worthy knoll]

The unit on P1 on T1 is part of the plan, I prayed opponent will skip to P2 to ensure Noah takes Biscuit S2 late, like preburst my wall is Crown, while post burst is Noah

[rich quail]

Then once Biscuit and S.Anis burst you lifesteal until u win

[worthy knoll]

Again no life steal coz need Biscuit to burst to lifesteal

[rich quail]

I KEEP FORGETTING

Someday I will not

[velvet sky]

also mod with 10/10/9 & not ele but 3 atk lines

[rich quail]

But yes you used both of Biscuit’s 2 invuls masterfully

[lone sequoia]

2b/x/biscuit/rosanna/x
2b with ammo to tank modernia hits; sbs should not be a problem since is 4RL team, maybe if she have +3atk lines and her S1 proc kill one of your attackers
1stx-SG we need damage before burst, that unit will die from emilia attacks
2ndx- another SG for damage pre-post burst
the main problem is field damage and burst gen, you can go with strong SG for normal attack, fire units to target blanc or burst gen+privaty for her stun(more time) but you need another defender p1

how long it takes for MG to get max speed?

[rich quail]

@worthy knoll Thank u for the learning opportunity

It was fun, but my brain is broken now

I’m gonna have to use 100 gems

[velvet sky]

….like 4/5 seconds from what i noticed?

[lone sequoia]

then modernia p5 if she have OL or just fill with SG p2-p5 for cp......(quantum on rosanna)

[rich quail]

[lone sequoia]

ff

[velvet sky]

#pvp-arena message

[rich quail]

He didn’t change the locks
But this time he wiped 3 of my team members in t2

[lone sequoia]

i always go for 3wins

[rich quail]

Yeah, it’s embarrassing

But he cp gaps me hard

I think he got pissed that I beat him

[worthy knoll]

You can wait for other players to cook you a team, you can prolly try this for the mean time as I'm bad on making def teams

Noah/Noise/SAnis/Rapunzel/Tia
Liter/Jackal/Centi/Scarlet/Anis
Blanc/Ein/Emilia/RH/Biscuit

[lone sequoia]

i would ask him what is his current team

[worthy knoll]

[spare whale]

Ill try these out thanks. By the way i know in defense the team switches so the team slots are reversed. Do i switch them around or just keep the order you posted?

[worthy knoll]

Maybe I shouldn't have overloaded you with a puzzle

[rich quail]

But it’s good. I need to learn

[worthy knoll]

Keep it as its posted

[spare whale]

Ok ill use them and hope it deters him to waste more gems in arena

[rich quail]

I want to be as good as u guys so I need to see more of situations like these

It’s all in fun. I can take losses and tough learning sessions as long as I learn

[lone sequoia]

jackal team in round 2 to reset residual (?

[velvet sky]

iirc i alr tried something with ros & she barely managed to cut like only half of 2 attackers hp

that’s like c7 rh there + doll

won’t snipe that

[lone sequoia]

T3, no?

[velvet sky]

…..wait i confused the whales it’s another cpgapper who has rh there but she still couldn’t nuke emilia & scarbs

[keen vapor]

This happened to me with Aurora

[wild patio]

[keen vapor]

What happened

[worthy knoll]

When you fight T2, are they 3 RL or 3.5?

[lone sequoia]

is hard to beat a stall team when you are in power deficit, for T3 you need to kill blanc to stop the burst chain, the other problem is the basic attacks from those units, emi hit 3 and sbs have S1 proc, modernia will stay with p1, you can go with a normal team but blanc burst will be for emi and she alone can kill your team, if sbs or modernia grab that... maybe with ssakura you can try to kill emi in those 3 sec for her charge
rosanna team need cheap+damage+kill and 2b burst

[rich quail]

Brother
We need to get revengence

[umbral crown]

imagine not able to send a proper message

[wild patio]

lvl diff too much

[rich quail]

Yes… I can imagine it

[keen vapor]

After losing 100 gems against him, I did give up on that idea

[keen vapor]

50

[umbral crown]

[wild patio]

I lost 300 gems this season just to maintain my c3

[umbral crown]

miss those days

[wild patio]

I wouldnt say loss since we get those yummy cdkeys

[velvet sky]

felt kinda slow

[keen vapor]

[wild patio]

they compensate our gems

[rich quail]

Same

I was pretty cp gapped, and I only had one team roster that could fight his mid-level team without penalty

Maybe I have to think out of the box for next time, and not let penalties scare me

[velvet sky]

keys won’t compensate the amounts i always lose

[worthy knoll]

You think its possible to remove Jackal on T1?

Do you also have vids of your T3 fights?

[velvet sky]

i deleted everything bc storage issues

[worthy knoll]

Though in your battles, is it Noise who gets the indom?

[velvet sky]

never noise

[worthy knoll]

Always on Emi?

[velvet sky]

emi or scarbc/mod

that t3 is cursed

[worthy knoll]

Even if you put your Scarlet on P1 with no Rosanna?

I'm thinking T3 can be doable as long as none of the attackers get indom 🤔

[velvet sky]

not too sure abt t1 now without jackal & buffer but prolly t3 could in theory work

[worthy knoll]

Mmmh..

Make T1 : Noah Noise Centi Emilia (any RL that is high CP)

[velvet sky]

i wouldn’t put anyone but jackal or gremlin at least on p5 bc last time I tried with p5 centi she was obliterated by noir & that triggered ros nuke

[worthy knoll]

Then your

T3: Scarlet/SAnis/Blanc/Biscuit/Jackal 🤔

Yeah you can place RH on T1 I guess, if you need to CP pad

Another for T3 is Scarlet/SBS/SAnis/Blanc/Jackal if your SBS have higher CP than Biscu (assumes SBS/SAnis linked). This team tho will assume Noise will get indom, while whoever burst between SAnis or SBS will kill Emi before she can fire off the ICBM

[velvet sky]

nope scar is linked

[worthy knoll]

Then go with the Biscu route for now 🤔

Though if it was the SBS team, how much CP is it?

[worthy knoll]

Hmm seems you are not gapped using this team too.. maybe its possible with that, just make Scarlet at P2 then RH at P3. Place Biscuit at P5, just far away from danger I guess

Though the risk is Modernia prolly taking the indom, but as long you kill Emi it should be fine as it would be Mod vs a lot of units left. If lucky, you could prolly already kill Blanc too 🤔

[worthy knoll]

Oof 16% for the Biscuit team.. almost not on penalty

Yeah you can try using that Scarlet RH team

Since no penalty when using it
Blanc Scarlet RH Jackal Biscuit

[velvet sky]

kinda have doubts abt my t1 but trying rn

holy shi t1 won

MERRY WE WON

Blanc died

[rich quail]

Died for the cause

I gotta review my current loss before bed

Inspired

[worthy knoll]

[umbral crown]

Video?

[velvet sky]

thanks for the idea of removing jack & rearranging

[rich quail]

Holon I upload

[velvet sky]

now stupid iphone is out of storage too

[velvet sky]

brb I’ll clear it & throw my vid

[worthy knoll]

Scenario for T3 is simple

If they skip to linked units , you burst first but more likely enemy Blanc to die.

If they went normal targeting and focus on your T1 Blanc, they will prolly burst first or same time burst, your Blanc Scar wins against Blanc Emi well as long your Scar don't reload, if lucky indom on Noise instead of Emi coz Scarlet gunning on her too coz of her taunt

[rich quail]

My iPhone is on its deathbed

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

Last time I had my shield up in time

This time, too slow

Same teams both times

[hot sigil]

The audacity of some people smh

[worthy knoll]

T3 looks much comfier to battle with

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

Huge cp gap but after what u taught me, maybe we can find an exploit

[umbral crown]

Fights at 2 am

[rich quail]

So we have potential single target b3s in both RH and Alice

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

Noah Biscuit should help me survive a little

Maybe use noise to help with survival

But they are not high cp units

[velvet sky]

i was also malding against this whales t1 & skipping t3 due to huge penalty…..and that was a mistake i still sweeped that t3

no more wasted gems anymore im writing down all my new counters against 3 whales

suffer birches

no whales shall have it easy with me around

[rich quail]

That is a 66% percenter

Penalty would be pretty heavy I assume

[worthy knoll]

That is the highest CP you could do?

[rich quail]

No I believe what my t2 has is my max cp possible without autoing

[worthy knoll]

Still at 300kish but mmh, I think it could work on T3 🤔

[rich quail]

I could give it a try tomorrow

[umbral crown]

Hoping nobody takes you down

[worthy knoll]

What is your SBS CP tho?

[rich quail]

80486

[worthy knoll]

You can prolly win that T2
With Noah (some RL with high CP that is not B3) SBS Emi Centi

So either Noise or Rapu for P2 🤔

[rich quail]

Hmmm

[worthy knoll]

Noah Noise Biscuit SBS Emi is also another possible one to use against it

Well as long you are not on gap

[rich quail]

Rapu is probably best because she has all OL+0 gear

I’ll see if I can really boost up Noise

What is the optimal skill investment levels for her?

I have her at 6/7/7

[worthy knoll]

7/7/7 -> 7/7/10 -> 7/10/10 - > 10/10/10 I guess

[rich quail]

Thanks. I can at least do 7/7/7

[velvet sky]

s1 > s2 tho

[worthy knoll]

Mmh, I see S1 = S2 and S1 prolly works only though if it she gets hit x times.. was it 20? If she doesn't I think S2 is better for more survivability from her pre burst

Do you think its possible to for MW to kill linked units while on penalty tho?

That is only self buff?

Oh she can mmh, how long her nuke though?

Will it shoot before Noah invul (if used as B2) goes down?

Nah I mean your own Noah

Noah -> MW

[velvet sky]

s2 takes 15s + things like xanne almost nullify hp potency anyway so i personally don’t rely on her s2 much

[worthy knoll]

Uhh.. we're talking about Noise

Not Rapu

Oh nice, she shoots before invul is gone 🤔

[velvet sky]

saw et talking abt rapu first, didn’t notice noise below noise yeah s2 10 first that’s right

[rich quail]

I think I should finish upgrading her

[worthy knoll]

Mmh though.. will she still kill linked units if she is targeting enemy jackal while on penalty instead of Scarlet that is opposing element which I think boosted her damage on that vid?

[worthy knoll]

@worn field what do you think of this def team?

So at least its not too bad

My idea it is fine if Ein burst, if she dies Emilia is there to save. If enemy uses Rosanna both Ein and Emi target and RH will be indomed instead. My worry if P2 Emilia, she dies before she could burst 🤔

Hmm though guess Ein as backup is also good

Mine too but somehow if I have an opponent with high elem lines on SAnis, a crit S2 on 2.5RL sometimes kills my Emi

Together with Noise and Biscuit assault

[coarse lake]

if they can kill p2 emi then p3 ein bursts anyway

emi as dps is more preferable bc it's harder to counter

[worthy knoll]

Yeah I guess that is fine too. I just thought if P2 is more likely to die, then just place Emi on P3

[coarse lake]

most of the time p2 emi should be fine, unless fighting higher sync

also they gotta be ballsy to run a 4 rocket sanis comp against emi hoping for emi kill

[worthy knoll]

Its 3 RL now

[coarse lake]

4 RL units

yeah 3RL, so if they can't kill emi due to crit rng, they simply lose

[worthy knoll]

But lets see I have a fight where I killed Emi pre burst

[coarse lake]

if they wanna also make a 4RL speed comp to counter emi even if she lives, they're now more like 3 rl units

[worthy knoll]

And I was 60+ sync gap by enemy

Let me search it

[coarse lake]

recent cook was enemy 442 sync vs attacking emi 424 sync

basically blanc emi against this

emi died only when multiple rockets critted

lived when it was only a few crits

[worthy knoll]

Here, I still lost though coz of RH burst, but here example of Emi dying before Blanc can burst

#pvp-arena message

[coarse lake]

are you or the enemy 60 sync higher

[worthy knoll]

Enemy is 60 sync higher

[coarse lake]

huh

invest diff prob

yeah but emi has 60 sync extra and still died

wasn't an insane amount of crits either