pvp-arena

[umbral crown]

i trust keripo, he said Ein is hypercarry

[grizzled bone]

munch is taunting me about Moran

[umbral crown]

drinks

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/moran-burst-nikke-gif-7430588719295985087

i think you might find your answer in #questions , #team-building or #strategy . here not many focuses on pve but in the channels linked you will find dedicated players who know a good way for it

[copper creek]

this ch is dedicated to pvp (arena) play

for your question:
refer to #questions for mechanic questions or general team
or post your box to #team-building if u want someone to build a team for u

[balmy portal]

ah okay

[copper creek]

srsly wondering what kind of movie happened last night 😂

[umbral crown]

some nice movie i think

see ya later bois to get ready for rei

[grizzled bone]

[rich quail]

[rich quail]

All gear now t9m +2

[grizzled bone]

[proven mauve]

Hi, can someone help me build 3 squads for sp arena please, thank you!

[plush sleet]

Team idea
Centi
Noise
Scarlet
Anis sparkling
Alice

How good at that team when going in arena

[grizzled bone]

this team lacks some synergy. Would advise to remove Alice (snipers in general) unless your B3 with her

[copper creek]

your team 1 is misunderstood and s.anis should probably be the dps here

the reason why the moran/biscuit/s.anis archetype works - refer to biscuit's burst
sbs is not a electric unit and thus has no benefit

is this all your ssrs ?

[copper creek]

**sp - def : **
jackal/scarlet/scalter/poli/noir
blanc/emilia/rh/alice/centi
noah/noise/s.anis/biscuit/rapunzel

**min. invest : **
s.anis - 7/7/9 (min.) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube
emilia - 4/7/7

quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal, and emilia if needed.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel

tempering cube (not urgent, take your time with this) at your own discretion,
priority: noah > blanc > other def taunters & units as required.

i do not advise running def teams on atk :
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order.

[plush sleet]

What do you mean by b3? But thanks I'm still working on it,

[rich quail]

Burst 3

Last person to burst

[plush sleet]

Ohhh

[grizzled bone]

post your roster sorted by power

[plush sleet]

Got it, scarlet and anis sparkle are my b3

[plush sleet]

Kk hold on let me get on game

[grizzled bone]

in general most pvp rounds wont last to burst twice

[plush sleet]

Then scarlet, anis sparkle buff scarlet for more damage

[round pilot]

For PVP usage, which cube is good?

HP , Def or Damage Reduction.

I maxed Bastion, Resilience and Quantum

Plan to max another lvl 10 cube

[copper creek]

It Depends(TM) - i like vigor and tempering best

but i would suggest holding off on levelling cubes atm
september will introduce increased cube max lvl

[grizzled bone]

would work in theory but probably not optimal in most cases

[copper creek]

the context of this is rookie or sp.a?

[plush sleet]

Sp

[plush sleet]

Noted

[copper creek]

i dont recommend whatever u're doing because there's only so many good nikkes and u need to make 3 teams work with those

[plush sleet]

Also my current nikkes

[round pilot]

I see. Then I will hold my union coin first. Since PVE I always aim to max Resilence and Bastion first.

Unless I have nothing to up now. Then I will go to 2nd prior which is PVP

[copper creek]

yea just hold union coin

[copper creek]

r u emilialess

[plush sleet]

Didn't pull her i was poor XD

[copper creek]

@_@ yea u might have skipped the best pvp unit

[plush sleet]

Rip , if i knew i should have use my golden tickets

It's fine tho i got some other nikkes and there's other nikke that's also good for pvp

And yea i made the team base on the list of which nikkes are good at pvp

[worthy lake]

emilia is one of the best pvp units

[copper creek]

**sp - def : **
scarlet/noir/liter/poli/jackal
blanc/rapunzel/sbs/sugar/centi
noise/s.anis/anis/laplace/maiden

**min. invest : **
s.anis - 7/7/9 (min.) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube

quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal, and emilia if needed.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel

tempering cube (not urgent, take your time with this) at your own discretion,
priority: noah > blanc > other def taunters & units as required.

please include in your wishlist :
tetra - biscuit
(and pray for pilgrims - red hood, noah)

i do not advise running def teams on atk :
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order.

[plush sleet]

Okay thank you so much!!

[copper creek]

actually f it

[plush sleet]

?

[copper creek]

actually nvm yeah use this first

i wanted to make some changes cuz i thought can make scarlet team stronger but you dont have enough b1/2s that i want

[plush sleet]

Ah i see still thank you so much for the team suggestions and yea planning to get biscuit soon

[proven mauve]

I saw you repeat biscuit twice, which team should I put her on?

[copper creek]

edited

[trail inlet]

munch cooking again

[copper creek]

just here and there
if someone doesnt do it zixk has to do it all

[brazen grail]

hello?

[umbral crown]

Noah/Moran/S.anis/Biscuit/Anis
Maiden/Blanc/Liter/Centi/Jackal
Crown/SBS/Noir/Pepper/Naga

[rich quail]

[brazen grail]

what about rookie?

[waxen tartan]

which team should i use against this? (rookie)

[rich quail]

Speed Round: 4-1 today

One problem matchup I still need to figure out after today’s loss

[glad meteor]

share comp

[umbral crown]

Noah/Pepper/S.Anis/Biscuit/Jackal

[covert lintel]

you will win with both team as long as your atkers are fully invested

[rich quail]

Me?

[glad meteor]

sure, if you want

[rich quail]

Okay, could you help me without telling me the answer outright?

I need to learn

I will tell you my reasoning, and what I think I need to try instead

[glad meteor]

That’s if i even know the counter

[rich quail]

So this matchup is tough for me because:

Biscuit/Noah counters SBS
Jackal counters S.Anis
Emil counter is hard against opponent Emil

I risked trying to get opponent to burst quicker with S.Anis, so that my shield could stay up and block opponent Emi b3

But it didn’t work that way…

[pastel narwhal]

rosanna bonk gets caught by noah? or doesn't kill emi?

[rich quail]

So I think what I need to try instead is to add Noise at least

because I need to have a larger HP pool to survive opponent Emi burst

But now I have to think of who can clean up

I didn’t try Rosanna because I was afraid opponent Noah would block even if I matched speed

[brazen grail]

how
i thought that noah and moran are better than blanc and liter

[rich quail]

That was my logic

[glad meteor]

Wouldn’t bet on it, maybe with noise+srdoll+temper. But rh buffer is usually strong enough to breakthrough noise.

[rich quail]

I was afraid of that. Opponent Emi was scarier than my own

[glad meteor]

Rosanna and red hood have low burst gen, and you have emi 21, so you should burst faster if you mirror so…

[rich quail]

I mean, I could easily do 2rl but I wanted to treat it as an sp situation, where I needed to find another solution

Oh, Rosanna has quantum

[glad meteor]

The only way you lose is if whiffs are crazy, and knowing this game

[rich quail]

I think my weakness is understanding how I can hit my Emi’s burst as opponent’s Noah shield goes down

Thus the overthinking

[pastel narwhal]

Noah / bisc / noise / sanis / rapunz ?

[glad meteor]

That’s just having more cs if mirroring, which you don’t want to count on for consistent wins accross the board with different investments

[rich quail]

I could try that next time

But isn’t S.Anis going to feed Jackal?

[pastel narwhal]

yes it will

it's just in my notes

[rich quail]

Yeah, it’s by far the toughest thing for me to figure out

Which I like because I want to see more matchups

[glad meteor]

We want to feed jackal to make them 2rl

[pastel narwhal]

I've only encountered one though and I'm not sure if this is before or after noah buff so im not sure if it'll work stil

[rich quail]

It’s worth a try

I just want to understand the logic behind the choices

[glad meteor]

Sanis only hit jackal linked target once, one more hit and they should be 2rl lol

[rich quail]

Which is what I did want

So was I right in wanting to speed up opponent Emi to bursting faster?

[glad meteor]

Yh, but relies on target skip, depending on positioning the likeliness of target skip changes from what I’ve seen.

Even with enemy emi having more cs since your sanis p5 is closer to noah and biscuit so it didn’t target skip

[rich quail]

My Emi is 21%cs

If that helps

[pastel narwhal]

Rosy typing

[umbral crown]

let mee dit, liter is not good with S.Anis

[rich quail]

Oh yeah, I heard some people saying something about not putting certain units on p1?

[glad meteor]

I’ts about enemy emi cs, we want to target skip to their jackal linked units

[glad meteor]

Cs goes from left to right, so you want 0% cs on the left I think

[pastel narwhal]

cs based on position a thing now?

[rich quail]

Oh… is that how it works?
I did make sure that Biscuit, Noah, Noise have all cs lines removed

Emi has the most, RH had one cs line that is blue

S.Anis I don’t think has a cs line

So Noah should be okay at p1 because she has no cs lines and her cube is Temperance I believe

[glad meteor]

Yes

Only so much repositioning we can do without messing up the burst chain

[rich quail]

Yeah, but if I try out Aoi’s lineup suggestion there will be Rapu instead of RH, so I think S.Anis may still be safe at p4

[pastel narwhal]

when all your RL's have a cs line or three and not enough rocks

[rich quail]

If RH is still in the lineup, you would be right about positioning being tricky

[rich quail]

3 cs lines

I got rid of the cs lines the moment I got them for Biscuit, Noise, Noah

each had one

Centi too

[glad meteor]

After a certain amout of cs, maybe they get out of cover quick enough unless they’ve already been skipped

[pastel narwhal]

Still need to do Ultra for the abnormal helmets before i can go back to the kraken mines again

[rich quail]

I had so many weird problems when Biscuit and Noah were on Adjutant

Like the part where if one RL on my team went into cover and that unit was getting fired upon, the opp would switch to the adjacent unit and fire until I got out of cover

[glad meteor]

Cs shenanigans

In trapped on ultra and indivilia for now

[rich quail]

I don’t think I see too much of that after I pruned most of the cs lines off supporter/defender units

But I still get focused down on with Blanc at times (somebody explained and I have to check notes)

Not cs related but opp unit targeting tendencies

Depends on type of units in my lineup

[pastel narwhal]

at the moment though, all my cs is not causing problems so far. I may remove them all if everything is out of control

[glad meteor]

I was struggling on ros/scar so I had too

[umbral crown]

i started with harvester, S.Anis missing boots

but on the way got 2 rocks

[pastel narwhal]

pebble on your shoe

[spice trellis]

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

Okay so I think generally I may have been on the right track, but was a little off:

I wanted Emi to shoot earlier, but I didn’t get her to shoot fast enough. I either need to add another unit to feed Jackal even more or remove Jackal from
my team to make myself slower

Noise may or may not work depending on how much opp RH buffs Emi

But it may be moot if I get my shield up in time. Just need to survive long enough before opp Emi starts charging b3

Is this correct, or am I

I hope I am not dum

[pastel narwhal]

just auto everything

[glad meteor]

SG p2/4/5 pushes them 2rl

Safer to mirror with ros imo

2sg shots should give enough feed as long they don’t whiff

[pastel narwhal]

noise in middle can hopefully make them burst faster so it's easier to catch the nuke

[rich quail]

If I go Rosy, would I’d have to go faster to beat Noah shield?

[pastel narwhal]

yeah gotta go fast

[rich quail]

To 1-shot right?

[pastel narwhal]

and then you'll just deal with rh

[rich quail]

Hmmm

[pastel narwhal]

emilia usually dies but not rh

that's when noah+bisc saves the day

[glad meteor]

Yes, noah buff makes it closer than it used to. If your burst slower and you’re 1 rl slower. Nuke blocked and you’re nuke then goes off, burst faster then ros is cooking

[rich quail]

Yeah, and shooting B1 w/Rosie before opp Noah/Bisc would be ideal

[covert lintel]

this was very ez to counter with rosanna

[rich quail]

Was it?

Okay, I’ll try with Rosie, then the comp Aoi gave me

[umbral crown]

ies

[rich quail]

I think it’s good to have multiple solutions, especially if I’m forced to deal with that team in sp

[spice trellis]

Don’t try the sg feed on enemy jackal

Attacker sg hits p1 and if it’s Noah she’s not linked so you’re actually not feeding the jackal

[umbral crown]

[pastel narwhal]

dont sg's hit p5 first (jackal) then p1

[spice trellis]

IIRC it was 5-4 based on sg position but I don’t remember

[pastel narwhal]

[glad meteor]

#pvp-arena message

SG positioning

[pastel narwhal]

what a messy targetting system

[spice trellis]

Noah emilia usual counters are blanc Emilia and sanis god comp. Your main goal on blanc Emilia comp is to make sure she doesn’t die after enemy rh bursts because of the higher dmg since you will have at least 1RL delay. So purple doll or bust

[rich quail]

Let me control Alice in pvp pls Shift Up

[pastel narwhal]

^^ ^^

[rich quail]

So I can go
burstPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEWPEW

What was S.Anis god comp?

Was it with Biscuit b2 so S.Anis could lifesteal?

I remember doing it but I wasn’t sure if I used god comp

Wait Biscuit can’t b2 if Blanc is there to indom

[glad meteor]

Sanis god comp, might be on prydwen site. I don’t know it

[rich quail]

I’m almost certain it has Blanc and Biscuit

But I’m guessing

[pastel narwhal]

my bracket still uses godcomps

now i just use godcomp against his godcomp

[rich quail]

Godcomps
Godscomp
Godscomps

[pastel narwhal]

scampi

[spice trellis]

Noah noise sanis biscuit rapunzel

[covert lintel]

i never use sanis now
i always use scarlet, emilia and privmaid as main atker

[rich quail]

Congee scampi

[keen vapor]

It's not winning mirrors :deadge:

[rich quail]

I may turn to the dark side and build up

… Bunny Soda

[spice trellis]

That’s not mirror tho

[rich quail]

I WANT TO GIVE EVERYONE A BUNNY SODA INCIDENT

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/wwe-wrestling-rabbit-fight-punch-gif-13988222

[spice trellis]

I do have bunny soda for PvP Kek

My bsoda is like core 6

In any case if you can’t win with blanc Emilia or sanis god comp you might have to rely on unconventional stuff

[keen vapor]

[spice trellis]

[rich quail]

That’s what I’m willing to lab up on Rookie

[spice trellis]

Well since your goal is to kill Emilia and rh might as well try the mishiro 1 RL comp but I’m not sure if it’ll work on your synchro lvl and if you have xanne

But try blanc Emilia and sanis god first

Before delving into the dark side

[rich quail]

I know that would be an option but I was trying to see what my squad could do without using so many clip rl, especially if I had this scenario in sp

[umbral crown]

helios provoking the bunny soda incident

[umbral crown]

rico

[spice trellis]

What’s the bunny soda incident actually

[rich quail]

P… S… D… T…

[glad meteor]

If jackal and biscuit in same team, usually other teams are weaker, unless you’re going up against a cp def team

[rich quail]

[exotic wraith]

bunny soda incident?

[umbral crown]

gameET wll tell you

[rich quail]

I’m so traumatized I can’t get the letters in the right order

[spice trellis]

[spice trellis]

He didn’t pull her right?

[exotic wraith]

surely it cant be that bad right?

[umbral crown]

not really, i think he did but something happened in SP

[pastel narwhal]

he nuked the opponent's main b3 but didn't realize boda was at the corner and a MASSIVE BUNNY dived in and killed his entire squad of iron weak

[rich quail]

#pvp-arena message

Have fun laughing at my expense

[pastel narwhal]

eet was BODY SLAM

[spice trellis]

Oh now I get it. And my soda core 6 with 26% atk

Might as well create another soda incident

[exotic wraith]

bro

I like how the game lags when the bunny hits

[rich quail]

The power was too great for my garbo iPhone 12

[exotic wraith]

[umbral crown]

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/easter-bunny-take-down-wresltling-gif-5231995

[umbral crown]

soon new tag of helios: Bunny Soda incident creator

[spice trellis]

[rich quail]

I spelled commander wrong

I’m a bit frazzled u have to forgive me

[umbral crown]

[exotic wraith]

Thats that PTSD im afraid 😔

[pastel narwhal]

neverr, and this is my hornii face

[rich quail]

Yeah, those letters

[glad meteor]

[rich quail]

Aoi, what’s this outburst about?

[next pebble]

That face reminds me of Gmod nextbots.

[pastel narwhal]

no reason, i just want to post hte face again

[rich quail]

Anyways, thank you for the great advice

Today
… I learned

… that trauma with bunny girls is all too real

[pastel narwhal]

Is it Ayanami time later? or tomorrow?

[rich quail]

In about 5 hours

I think when the refresh hits

I’ll double check but that’s the word on the street

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/rey-smile-troll-smile-gif-23318421

[glad meteor]

Time to get bricked on pulls

[pastel narwhal]

25kgems

[rich quail]

Yeah, 5 hours just about

I have 10,347 gems

2 advanced vouchers

Poverty gacha lifestyle is rough

[pastel narwhal]

time to buy all the adv vouchers on event shop

[rich quail]

yeh

[glad meteor]

Gotta wait 2 more weeks, for hard event

[rich quail]

I haven’t bought them yet

I spent all the money on crac-

I mean, skill manuals

[pastel narwhal]

crackers?

[rich quail]

It’s a 3-story event, right?

[rich quail]

Um…

YES

The animal cracker kinds

[glad meteor]

Yes

[pastel narwhal]

that's a first

[kind glen]

help, i lost to the above team in rookie

[rich quail]

That looks familiar

[copper creek]

how familiar are we talking

like the estur variety of familiar or...?

[rich quail]

Nightmare inducing

It’s my nightmare matchup

[summer copper]

Top one? Pretty easy

[copper creek]

just taunt+biscuit it lol

you see single target dps / sbs? you taunt+biscuit

[rich quail]

ohhh
So if Aki does
Noah/Biscuit/Emi/RH/Jackal

Win?

[summer copper]

Yeah

[rich quail]

@kind glen There u go

[summer copper]

That team doesn’t lose to much

[rich quail]

What happens when opponent has Emil instead of S.Anis?

[copper creek]

then u match speed or go slightly faster

if its crap filler unit then u just do whatever

[summer copper]

Go faster, but not too much faster

[rich quail]

Okay
Thanks

[glad meteor]

emi nuke will be blocked due to sanis feed, Depends if biscuit stays alive long enough?

[rich quail]

Oh… so in this case the opponent makes Aki go too fast

[kind glen]

ok

[glad meteor]

Full team of rls whiff might help

[glad meteor]

Maybe, depends on whiff

[rich quail]

hmm

Who would be a good replacement for Jackal? Centi?

No damage share link but can shoot at normal time

Slightly slower tho

[glad meteor]

Sure, gen is close so target skip could still make it 2rl

[kind glen]

I won easily, ty

[rich quail]

WE DID IT

[glossy anvil]

Do we get anything for successful arena defenses? Or should I put in a purposely weak defense team to help other players defeat it and get resources for themselves?

[glad meteor]

In rookie arena, You get a couple more arena tickets at the end of the day depending on position, this mode is mostly to test team comps, rewards don’t matter much.

In sp you get more gems the higher position you are at the end of the season.

Can just set a decent defense for some decent gem income/arena tickets.

[gaunt cypress]

laplace treasure 1, noah, b.soda/noir, rossana, emilia

noise, rapunzel, sbs, lap1, noah

rapunzel, sbs, lap1, noah, jakal

noah, sbs, bisucit, rapunzel, emilia

noah, sbs, biscuit, rapnzel, jakal

[little oak]

i want to use alice since i recently built her in pvp, which teams does she work best on

[glad meteor]

Blanc Indom, biscuit stall, noah. Her ammo, low burst gen and single target dps is a crutch though.

[onyx scaffold]

Basically any team that let her burst and shoot

Noah noise rapunzel alice biscuit
Noah Biscuit Rapunzel Alice Centi

Losing against S.Anis though

[north iron]

Any quick team build i can make up? Idk what to pair with Jackal and Biscuit

No idea if i can improve my actual with what i have

[umbral crown]

for rookie?

[north iron]

yep

[umbral crown]

Moran/Maiden/Rosy Ocean/Biscuit/Jackal

see how it works for you

[north iron]

will keep it at the second slot team and see how it goes when arena resets

[little oak]

thanks

[little oak]

why she rated ss then

[glad meteor]

As far as single target dps’s go for pvp, she’s up there. But normally sanis clears her, and sbs is better, unless og sakura is there

[little oak]

🫡 ic well because of the event i made her skills 10 using all my mats... hopefuly she helps

[lone sequoia]

10min*

[umbral crown]

[lone sequoia]

all ready for rei?

[grizzled bone]

my body is

[lone sequoia]

and your wallet?

[pastel narwhal]

psst, gimme rei luck

[grizzled bone]

non monsieur....

[umbral crown]

Will give you a bit

All my bad luck went into Asuka banner

[lone sequoia]

ready to +200 for rei...

[umbral crown]

But im kinda tixing her

[lone sequoia]

are you sure?

[umbral crown]

Yes, 100 pulls and only SSRs i got were Folkwang and Admi

And thats it

Not even 1 copy

[lone sequoia]

no asuka?

[umbral crown]

No asuka, asukaless

[lone sequoia]

no SSS

rip

reset*

[pastel narwhal]

good luck brothas and sistas

[wise horizon]

thanks but i dont have Rapunzel in my box

[stray pilot]

thank 😭

[lone sequoia]

+3rocks

[glad meteor]

Like 70 pulls no ssr. I just ticketed

[pastel narwhal]

skyjlv is testing numbers now

[glad meteor]

[lone sequoia]

and mari?

[glad meteor]

I got 653 golden tickets now

They better release mid after this

[lone sequoia]

1 pilgrim+1limited

[copper creek]

80 pulls - 1x mod, doro, rei

tilted

well, 1x standard - rosanna
that's ok i guess...

[wise horizon]

any advice? @worn field @copper creek

[umbral crown]

No rei neither

My luck is in the dust

[copper creek]

your choice of:

t1: scar/blanc/rh
t2: 2rl noah
t3: match speed, emilia nuke

[umbral crown]

[copper creek]

but if zixk here maybe better if he cook

[lone sequoia]

tickets?

[proud yarrow]

Oh thank you very much @worn field I wasn’t expecting someone to answer my question from yesterday.

[tacit stratus]

Do I need to delay my burst to win this? He used to have jackal and I would be able to win.

[copper creek]

yes, dont run jackal against this

4rl blanc or noah - dont run emilia

[wise horizon]

T1 Scarlet / Blanc / RH / Anis / Jackal
T2 (Dont have Noah)
T3 Moran / Biscuit / SAnis / Emilia / Centi
This is good enough?

[tacit stratus]

Maybe like a SBS team with blanc?

[copper creek]

that's an idea

[lone sequoia]

120-36-0ssr

[umbral crown]

I just have 200 goldies, and at this point unless i whale gems i willnot uave a chance to get all 3 eva units

I did 30 on rei, 0 SSRs , 100 on asuka just 2 off banner SSR

[copper creek]

i dont like anis with blanc, maybe centi and anis swap
t3 should be ok but im genuinely not sure, i've never ran that variation before

[lone sequoia]

2months for the next pilgrim(?

[copper creek]

what does this mean 😅

[lone sequoia]

then xmas-january+pilgrim and collab

[tacit stratus]

This? @copper creek

[glacial lion]

anyone try sac rei strat yet?

[umbral crown]

I wanted all 3 to cool new teams but that idea might not work

[lone sequoia]

120(adv pulls-banner)-36(standard-normal banner) no ssr

[copper creek]

probably dont run emilia against that
and definitely dont run jackal against that

[pastel narwhal]

wow drained my 25k gems, no rei but 3 pvp units , looks like golden time at end of event

[fiery walrus]

I finally have noah where should I slot her

[grizzled bone]

4 single pulls got Rosanna. First 10 pull brought Rei home

[copper creek]

send updated box

[tacit stratus]

My b wrong pic

[umbral crown]

Forcing 400 pulls tp secure units

[copper creek]

one unit (jackal) should not be there
positioning needs to be fixed

[lone sequoia]

150-45-1noah-1rei

[copper creek]

anyway, may or may not work:

**rookie - attack : **
blanc/emilia/rh/biscuit/naga

calculate deficit before attacking.
do not proceed if penalty. formulae in pinned.

[copper creek]

wtf thats genuinely f--ked

waiot

@tacit stratus hold

[lone sequoia]

that was better thant the other banners

[worthy knoll]

Oof I guess one buff Emilia not enough against SAnis teams

[copper creek]

actually

[lone sequoia]

this year every limited/pilgrim took me like +230 @copper creek

[glad meteor]

Level diff?

[worthy knoll]

Should be fine, its just 20ish

Oh wait 416

30ish

[lone sequoia]

+30%damage reduction+noise burst check sanis dupes

[worthy knoll]

SAnis max

[tacit stratus]

Could I out burst him with Scarlet nuke? @copper creek

[glad meteor]

Yh, Noise with level diff is rough

[lone sequoia]

synchro?

[copper creek]

that team is 3rl, i wouldnt attempt

[copper creek]

edited

[tacit stratus]

Ok

[worthy knoll]

Oh wait its not the one with max SAnis, why the hell does this guy seems more tanky than the one with max core SAnis

Yeah 20ish sync only

[glacial lion]

noah dmg reduce + noise dmg reduce stack?

[worthy knoll]

Should be the same with the one with max core

Though yeah this one is one I'm sure all maxed SR dolls

[tacit stratus]

Got the dub but Emilia died before burst lmao @copper creek

[copper creek]

1 more question: is laplace+?

[copper creek]

its fine
i dont care if emi or rh gets the indom, as long as either of them do

[worthy knoll]

Coz when dolls package was up for grabs with cash, he had a huge CP spike without sync or units core changing

[lone sequoia]

that could be a +5.6mhp sanis, maybe that guy have more lvls on noise/noah skills than the other guy

[worthy knoll]

Also doesn't seem Noise S1 is at work though.. didn't see Noise get hit 20 times, Moran was hitting Noah all through out

[copper creek]

**sp - def : **
s.sakura/scalter/pepper/poli/jackal
blanc/rh/b.soda/maiden/centi
noah/noise/s.anis/biscuit/laplace

**min. invest : **
s.anis - 7/7/9 (min.) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube

quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal, and emilia if needed.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel

tempering cube (not urgent, take your time with this) at your own discretion,
priority: noah > blanc > other def taunters & units as required.

i do not advise running def teams on atk :
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order.

[wise horizon]

Thanks but i failed to notice that you included Noah which i dont have either but I could put Bay in that spot instead as shes essentially the cheaper version of Noah. And Noir was used twice.

[grizzled bone]

1 rock today. No Moran

[coarse lake]

waiting for someone to do rei test to see if her nuke in pvp is affected by her own buff

[grizzled bone]

was spa supposed to be shuffled today?

[pastel narwhal]

no, 1 more season

[grizzled bone]

ah okay. I was gonna say I dont see a change in mine

[lone sequoia]

you will say that again after the next season

[trail inlet]

man wrong scarlet

[velvet sky]

50 & not even a single ssr

[trail inlet]

[glad meteor]

Everyone’s getting cooked

[grizzled bone]

14 and got Ros and Rei

[velvet sky]

[mossy stirrup]

Hey guys , been pretty casual in pvp since im very underlevel in my pvp bracket . Still i was wondering what comps would work the best for me specially in sp arena with my current units to try to push ranks a bit. Appreciate any help 😅

[thorn pagoda]

is Rei any good at pvp

finally stopped wasting gems on pvp

[trail inlet]

good nuker but can feed scarjack

and no burst gen

[thorn pagoda]

thanks

[pastel narwhal]

how many buffs she needs tho?

[trail inlet]

so if you dont have scarlet like me she is good alternative

she has quite a lot of self buffs so probs 1

i think

[fiery walrus]

sorry just saw this my laplace is laplace+ and I dont have centi or scarlet do these teams work?

[trail inlet]

wouldnt use maiden for t2 might steal blanc indom

[fiery walrus]

the only other replacements I have are tia rapu and pepper for sg and rl

also my bsoda has less hp than my rh but that shouldnt matter because she wont be getting hit right?

[copper creek]

edited

[fiery walrus]

ty

[tawny vine]

i know these are first world problems - but today gave mlb sbs and alice and still no shield goblin
waiting for pvp arc to start too

[copper creek]

it'll be fine
with def targetting unless u get residualed i'd laugh if maiden steals that indom

[thorn pagoda]

i'd quit the game and never play again if that happened

but it's hard to quit when you invest $$$ into it

[velvet sky]

52 & nothing now

[grizzled bone]

[grizzled bone]

i've been doing the 1-1-1-10 method of pulling and it's been working well for this collab

[mild moat]

Looking for advice on beating this guy.

Here is updated roster, made some improvements recently

[copper creek]

the timing to pull out is the same as well? 1-1-1-10?

[coarse lake]

man my emi timing is impeccable

I swear it looks like emi nuked enemy team while their noah shield was still up

[copper creek]

just nuke any 2 teams

[grizzled bone]

pull out? what's that?

[plush sleet]

Question, i don't need to have a higher cp in sp arena as long as i have a solid team i can win?

[copper creek]

sp - attack:
vs. t1: scar/blanc/liter/centi/jackal
vs. t3: noah/emi/rh/biscuit/anis

calculate deficit before attacking,
do not proceed if penalty. formulae in pinned.

[plush sleet]

That's true but okay got it

[copper creek]

within reason
if u are at penalty range, that's not good

actually

[plush sleet]

Penetly range? What do you mean by that

[copper creek]

hold a bit
@worn field is this a good idea idek

[trail inlet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1177116972593463316/1185917093821042749/PvP_Stat_Penalty.png?ex=66d0655c&is=66cf13dc&hm=ef04892a16b31d2b4decfdd2405243160bfb1961c9fbbc8743e19f762664297c&

[copper creek]

if u have excessive cp deficit,
your team will receive a stat penalty. details in pinned.

[trail inlet]

lower cp/higher cp

[coarse lake]

I think my emi nuke hit at the same time where noah shield expired, visually it looks like noah shield is still there

[copper creek]

pull out is a lovely thing if u actually like your girlfriend and want to maintain a relationship with her and dont want to get a pregnancy scare

[plush sleet]

Ah okay got it tysm

[coarse lake]

no biscuit on enemy team, so those 2 immunes are prob from previous attacks a fraction of a sec ago

[mild moat]

Unfortunately with those I'm about 100k cp below their teams. Perhaps my chara aren't good enough for this enemy.

[tight sorrel]

So I am getting my Burst off first however zombie scarlet counters my B1 any suggestions for countering blanc?

[mild moat]

Maybe this one instead:

[tight sorrel]

My top two rows

[copper creek]

swap t1 and t3
calculate deficit before attacking

[coarse lake]

emi nuke splash takes a bit of time I think? this is on contact

but next frame

[trail inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/minuteman-icbm-troll-we-do-a-little-trolling-rocket-emporium-gif-21936364

[coarse lake]

still got through, timed perfectly (happens very consistently every time)

actually they lost their hp on contact already

wut, noah shield is there at the time

they're already dead in first pic

[copper creek]

hints:
noah, biscuit, jackal are correct
maybe in place of emilia, you might want something to help sustain your team more?
there's another dps more suited to this fight than rh
fix positioning

[copper creek]

what kind of frame-perfect timing is this

[coarse lake]

no idea

on paper mine should have been blocked

[copper creek]

[coarse lake]

they got tia bursting and they're slower

[copper creek]

but the fact that u even bother to run that

your balls bigger than mine

[coarse lake]

6 fights so far against this setup, 1 time noah died before bursting, 5 other times all the same situation, seemingly perfect timing

even if they block I prob win

[trail inlet]

tia bursting

[coarse lake]

their noah put the shield up around when I entered full burst

although their immunes popped up a bit before their noah shield animation showed up

[copper creek]

hmm

are those hints a bit cryptic

nvm it should be fine for now

[coarse lake]

their first immune

0.3 sec after I went into full burst

[mossy stirrup]

hmm ty but dont have noah , and my sbs is most geared so worth using , also why marciana over anis for example

[copper creek]

for that team marciana is in, it's kinda flexible, that team is 3rl even without anis' additional burst gen (same speed both ways)
so marciana is there because highest cp of all the units that would make sense there

[coarse lake]

how is charge speed reduction calculated

is it just *3

[mossy stirrup]

I see , thanks for explaining 👍

[worthy knoll]

-0.01 RL time per 1% CS?

So if its -300% it is +3 RL time

-279% if Emi21 then its +2.79 RL time instead

[coarse lake]

so it's *(1+3-.2328)

3.7672 sec for me then

[worthy knoll]

The release yeah, not including projectile travel time though

[coarse lake]

will have to figure out exactly when emilia starts charging then, bc it can't be at the start of full burst

[mossy stirrup]

Thanks a lot , appreciate it

[mild moat]

Noah team off by 20% cp deficit, scar team only 13% so that's fine. For first team I have a bunch of other higher Cp options I might be able to sub with. Any suggestions?

[coarse lake]

using their noah shield as a timer, the time from full burst start to proj hitting is 3.3 sec

meaning my emilia would have to start charging quite a bit earlier?

[worthy knoll]

The gap between B2 and B3 is 0.42s

Noah immune start to B3 is 0.34s

[glad meteor]

Need advice, best variant?

1. Mpriv/mari/rosanna/noir/jackal 3.5RL

2. Mpriv/mari/rosanna/bsoda/jackal 3.5RL

3. Mpriv/mari/rosanna/centi/jackal 3RL

4. Bsoda/Mari/rosanna/centi/jackal 3RL

5. Bsoda/mari/rosanna/noir/jackal 3RL

[worthy knoll]

I pulled 1 ten pull.. I failed.. only got Crown

[wise horizon]

thanks xD also would this work?

[copper creek]

for what purpose

[coarse lake]

based on their tia kicking in (shield part of hp bar), this is approx the timings

manually edited the 2.7 burst gen

tia kicked in right before my blanc

[glad meteor]

Defense running
Mpriv/poli/ros/jackal/noir right now

[copper creek]

try any 3RL variant

anything slower than 3rl = dont need to run on def

[mossy stirrup]

What cube should i run on X.anne?

[rich quail]

2 rocks, 3 t9m attacker helmets
Tetra, Elysion, Missilis

But I need Pilgrim for Scarlet

[glad meteor]

3.5 rl comps close to 3 rl, but need feed

[coarse lake]

their team is approx 0.7 RL slower, (accounting for tia) and that's for like frame perfect nuking

my emilia has a good bit of charge speed, so you really do need like 1RL slower to consistently block even slower emilia ones

another reason why I should keep my emilia at 4/7/7, any more S1 invest prob means they block it

[worthy knoll]

Their Noah ends at 7.22s
Your Emil will release at 3.86+3.767 = 7.62s

[coarse lake]

based on the fight noah ending and emi hitting is basically same time

maybe using their tia to calc is inaccurate since the effects even on hp prob don't show up until a bit later

[worthy knoll]

They prolly bursted just a tad bit faster base on their RLs CS

[coarse lake]

they had immune when it landed, but they already lost their hp

next frame the numbers actually show up

[worthy knoll]

Its not like they need all RLs to hit to get to 3 RL with just 11% remaining.. so if their Laplace/Noah/Emi hit before 3 RL time, they prolly be bursting at around 2.8 or 2.7

[coarse lake]

[grizzled bone]

time to whale

[coarse lake]

first frame that their tia shield showed up in their hp bars

[rich quail]

I wake up to this

And this ツクヨミ boi never learns

Keeps attacking, never changes his locks

[worthy knoll]

They are not exacly 3 RL time then coz their Tia already bursted while your Blanc face is still showing up

[keen vapor]

No rocks

[coarse lake]

my team is faster than 3RL I think

[keen vapor]

I got Tetra support shoes twice instead

[worthy knoll]

You edited it 2.7 already right?

[grizzled bone]

[umbral crown]

Give me

[worthy knoll]

3.02 is blanc doing burst not just showing face

[keen vapor]

Gladly

[coarse lake]

just clipped the fight itself, maybe I'm miscounting something

[rich quail]

I need Tetra supporter chest gear

[keen vapor]

You doing Indivillia too?

[worthy knoll]

What was your Emi CS?

[coarse lake]

13% OL, lvl 4 s1

[worthy knoll]

Oh just lvl 4 s1?

What is the number for lvl 4 again?

[rich quail]

No, I’ve been doing Ultra for the past 4-5 days

I need Scarlet helmet

[coarse lake]

10.28%

my OLs are 4.92, 4.92, 3.16, maybe there's also some rounding going on, idk

[keen vapor]

I need Scarlet chest

[worthy knoll]

3-.13 -.2328-.2328 = you bursted at around 2.4044 RL time

[worthy knoll]

Given you Emi 3rd icicle made you FB, we can safely use Emi as the metric. Well more like 2.4044 + icicle travel time which i don't know how many miliseconds but yeah you bursted around somewhere between 2.4 or 2.5 RL time

[coarse lake]

did you account for first emi shot not having s1 buff

[worthy knoll]

Yeah here

.13 was the first minus

Tia shield showed up while your B2 still waiting for RH face to go in and allign to the other B2s. And you can try to verify this but I feel like Tia shield just like Noah or Blanc is not applied on snap, theres still a delay, so lets assume whatever RL time time in this pic, its about -0.08 RL time that their Tia bursted

[coarse lake]

I think they're at least 0.8 sec slower than me, their laplace got 999 ammo when my full burst was at about 9.23, but emi started charging earlier, so it might be closer to 1 sec

ok I got vids of tia bursting on my end

[worthy knoll]

Lets assume you bursted at 2.45RL time. Then your B2 is about 3.19, but RH face showing that time, -0.1 then -0.08. yeah they really bursted at around 3RL time then. 🤔

[coarse lake]

this might help

this was before noah fix

[worthy knoll]

Seems its a snap then

The gap between B1 and B2 is .42s lets assume the waiting for your RH face to align is half of that. Their Tia bursted still roughly 3RL time then if your B2 is at 3.19 🤔

[coarse lake]

then is it something like this

idk what their tia/rupee burst time is exactly

[worthy knoll]

-.21 of your B2 time

[coarse lake]

in the calc tia time is 0.32 sec after full bar time, is it when the blue hp show up on everyone

[worthy knoll]

You can just place their Tia time is 3 RL so their Full bar time is 2.68

[coarse lake]

it's prob when the cooldown shows up on the tia icon I think

their team would be 0.63RL slower

seconds to RL conversion and back is making this really confusing

[worthy knoll]

So their Noah shield up is at 3.9 RL up to 6.9RL time
Your Emi bursted at 3.61 RL time + 3.7672 = 7.3 RL time.. there should be some kind of delay of travel. Well about 0.4 to 0.5 difference I guess 🤔

[coarse lake]

noah invuln time is about 4.1 RL time? roughly? Using 1.367 sec per RL

[worthy knoll]

I already skipped to Tia to Noa buff kicks in for that 3.9

.9s difference

[coarse lake]

I don't think noah shield lasts 3 RL time since 1 sec isn't exactly 1 RL

[worthy knoll]

It is 1s as long no CS.. even there is difference it should just be a matter of 1 or 2 milliseconds.

I think 1 RL is the time from start of charging and to the release of it

[coarse lake]

oh yeah animation time

[worthy knoll]

The delay if prolly the difference of manual alice and auto alice at 100% CS. Not sure how much is that though

[coarse lake]

so their team would be effectively roughly 0.55 RL slower accounting for tia delay

[worthy knoll]

Yeah somewhere around more or less 0.4 RL slower

[coarse lake]

mine is on the faster side as well, most emilias would hit slower, so 0.5 RL slower definitely isn't enough

0.75 doubtful, 1 full RL would be safe

tia + 0.5 RL slower should be fine as well

tia is 0.4 rl delay apparently

[fiery walrus]

Is this ok? I think that my blanc might ult bsoda though because she has less max hp than my red hood?

[coarse lake]

if bsoda is less bulky than rh, yeah she'll indom bsoda

just swap rh and bsoda and let bsoda nuke them

[fiery walrus]

k

[coarse lake]

actually change order up a bit

Bsoda/Blanc/RH/Tia/Jackal, you don't want blanc to die early

your sanis team will lose btw

actually it might be close

[keen vapor]

Me all the time

[coarse lake]

they're in deficit, but you got 2 shotgun feeding them

[fiery walrus]

I just did it and my sanis team won and killed scarlet before burst

[coarse lake]

ah nice, enough dmg due to deficit

[fiery walrus]

yup ty for the help

[coarse lake]

btw has anyone tested/mathed out rei nuke in pvp yet? is her nuke affected by her burst buff

[wary jay]

amen

[wary jay]

there's probably gonna be damage snapshotting but we'll see from Keripo's pov.

or if anybody is willing to tinker

[mild moat]

@umbral crown so I've done all the campaign my characters can as of now without more investment (just about done with chap 31) do you recommend I just dump all my core dust boxes and max out as much as possible, which means also dumping a bunch of credit/data boxes as well, or do you recommend a different approach to spending those kinds of currencies as related to PvP?

[junior zephyr]

recommendations on beating this

I have every single nikke thats not chainsawman

and outlevel/power the person

for the most part

[pastel narwhal]

^ he needs to see your investment by sorting order

[worthy knoll]

So even with Drake buff the damage is not enough

Btw, how does it calculate ICBM damage if somehow Emi dies the moment she released it? Will it include the atk buffs or not?

[glad meteor]

Drake buff too small maxwell or bsoda (atk damage) buff should be stronger

Emi needs to have highest attack for bsoda buff though

[worthy knoll]

Initially I just want it to be RH but like the vid above, it only took like 50% hp.. my Emil has 4 atk lines too, max SR doll. Its kinda sad if without Blanc the damage is lacking

[glad meteor]

4x attack lines

Red hood gives caster’s attack, so maybe if you haven’t already got a max doll on her, her buff could be stronger

[umbral crown]

[worthy knoll]

True, it just SR0 doll she is wearing

[umbral crown]

Use everything, no need to hoard. The more the better

So you can progress more in pvp as well

[junior zephyr]

Welp that doesn't work

[keen vapor]

Synch?

[keen vapor]

Emilia shoots when enemy team still is invincible?

[worthy knoll]

Though its just a difference of like more or less 6.6k atk. So somewhere like 5.2 or5.3k atk difference of RH buff.. is that difference that high in terms of Emi nuke? 🤔

[wise horizon]

Didn’t work out for T3 😦

[keen vapor]

:sip frog:

[mild moat]

??

[keen vapor]

What's your level

[glad meteor]

At high sync? Probably not. At mine it’s big though

[mild moat]

295

[junior zephyr]

yes, emilia bursts while they're invuln

[keen vapor]

You have meta team?

[mild moat]

I have every char except power event, so yeah meta teams

[keen vapor]

I knew it

[junior zephyr]

second team works though,

[keen vapor]

I don't think we can Emilia nuke this season with the charge speed bug around :deadge:

[junior zephyr]

Thanks

[keen vapor]

Then you should be able to finish chapter 32 and 16 hard

[mild moat]

Oh really, huh. Let me see if I can cook up some teams for that then

[keen vapor]

I recommend
Crown/SBS/Alice/RH/either Rapunzel or Naga

Manual Alice

[mild moat]

Regardless of my chars Cp? Normal scarlet higher Cp by a lot than SBS for example

[keen vapor]

Well, maybe it doesn't finishes Mirror container but yes the rest of the chapter :deadge:

[keen vapor]

How much?

[mild moat]

Scarlet about 5k probs due to higher than my SBS due to ol gear diff

[whole shell]

5k isn't much tbh

if you get 1 good line reroll that'll displace the 5k difference

[keen vapor]

5k less is fine.... Try SBS first

Use of normal Scarlet is at your discretion

[lunar pawn]

ok it's been about 4h, what have the arena campers cooked with rei yet?

[keen vapor]

Not cooked yet

[lunar pawn]

[keen vapor]

Yes, he said

[wise horizon]

Think it’s a cp deficit and did think about leveling up the gear a bit more but rather not as I’m saving up for anniversary or whatever the next OP NIKKE is

[keen vapor]

Leveling gear only gives 200 CP

[glad meteor]

Is rei nuke attack damage affected by full burst then?

[keen vapor]

[glad meteor]

could expect the same code for mari

[keen vapor]

Code?

[glad meteor]

Programming*

[keen vapor]

Ah

[glad meteor]

Unless the order of the text affects it

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

Si

[keen vapor]

He can mald harder

[umbral crown]

Of course, i would

And force his way into C5

[keen vapor]

U wouldn't :pepeh:

I can't believe MG feed is too low for Scarlet Jackal skills

[raven plover]

[keen vapor]

I can't believe Noah is so fast that even with Tia she blocks in time

[raven plover]

[whole shell]

how though

you have emma hard feeding scar

[keen vapor]

🤷‍♂️

Quantum still below 7

[whole shell]

I think you might've gotten supremely unlucky and everyone targeted blanc...

so they got their burst faster

[raven plover]

maybe this is why, emma hit blanc so no feed, also their RL hit 3 now

[whole shell]

yeah everyone residual'ed blanc

[raven plover]

[keen vapor]

I'm unlucky every day

[whole shell]

rng really screwing you over

[keen vapor]

Every day

EVERY
SINGLE
TIME

Is always Blanc the one targeted

I can't with this

[mild moat]

Apparently I was slacking hard on hard. Only finished 9 before today 😅

[keen vapor]

:pepeh:

[whole shell]

they just really effing hate your blanc

[keen vapor]

:chime cry:

[keen vapor]

@worn field why

[whole shell]

trust me, I dealt with weird residueal issues once before

but it was for my mPriv

so I feel you

[copper goblet]

losing a lot with this team despite no CP gap between me and the rest of my league, what should i switch up?

[whole shell]

well it's an unbuffed scar nuke, what do you expect

[keen vapor]

[whole shell]

would be better to change it to either Scarlet/Blanc(or X.Anne)/RH/battery(maybe someone like centi)/Jackal

double buffed nuke with revive/indom as a backup measure

[copper goblet]

woo beat the rank 1 in my league with that thanks

[idle ridge]

any suggest to make my team better?

[frozen igloo]

Aye gang! Random question: you know the "near target" AOE stuff from gurls like Rei or Summer Sakura/Rosanna - how does it work in PVP? I could see big zero or hitting the two adjacent to the one that's being targeted of the five, meaning 1-2 (depending on if target is edge target).

Feel free to @me

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

Echo

Have YOU finished Hard Chapter 16?

[whole shell]

aye, np

[whole shell]

it depends on the skill tbh

for S.Rosanna, it specifies "the enemy", so just one singular enemy in that case

so it'd just target whoever S.Rosanna is shooting

for someone like mPriv it'd be 2 enemies since that's what the skill describes

[keen vapor]

No, I just randomly guessed from a 30 level diff

64 core dust is tasty tho :sus sip:

[whole shell]

tbh I really should continue to push story

been stalling at ch27 for a while when I could probably make it to 32

[keen vapor]

If he can beat you, then Challenger 1 surely would do as well right?

[blissful willow]

Rei = scarlet lvl nuke down to the dot

[keen vapor]

Cool

I mean

Can you defend from 1 and 2?

[thorn pagoda]

most of the time no
but i can beat them

this guy doesn't want to lose against anyone. has has an ego
has has to beat them first try, every time

[keen vapor]

[whole shell]

ooh

[thorn pagoda]

which is why he waits for me to take the top 2 down first

and then he goes after me

[whole shell]

so basically stronger kilo

[keen vapor]

deal with it

[whole shell]

for me it's just everyone too scared to attack this one guy that constantly steals my C1

but everyone else attacks me because they can cave in my teams

ugh

they don't attack him whenever he's C1 though

[keen vapor]

Conspiracy

[whole shell]

I seriously need to throw a wrench in his teams but I literally can't cook anything new

I can't use S.Anis on defense because literally everyone in my bracket has scarlet except me

so that's basically free team

no noah, jackal, or biscuit either

and my current teams gives everyone else trouble except for just that guy

[thorn pagoda]

used to stress out a ton on special arena, but as long as you're within the top 6 on the leaderboard, you should win 3000-2700 gems at the end so it's not a big deal imo

[whole shell]

I need to flex being at C1 tho with none of the pvp meta

my ego

[thorn pagoda]

unless #1 is a whale, it's not worth competing imo lol

[whole shell]

fortunately for me they're not

[thorn pagoda]

my top 2 are whales and the bottom 2 buy every single step up package so i don't stress over it anymore

gachas are designed to bleed your wallet dry
not worth it

[grizzled bone]

i also have cowards in my bracket

[keen vapor]

Rosy, sponsor me

[frozen igloo]

That makes sense. I haven't done it myself but I started to imagine how it broke down after Zxous, Rei video, in which he showed the big dmg slow vs boss as opposed to many minnions - then I imagined - what about PVP?

[velvet sky]

my fav thing is when whales can’t beat other whales bc they’re too dumb so they target me instead when i snatch spots from whales those whales couldn’t snatch

[keen vapor]

So real....

So real....

[fiery parcel]

Just pulled Rei Ayanami in 30 pulls b got any recommended teams?

For pvp

[keen vapor]

So real....

[keen vapor]

Rei/Blanc/RH/Centi/Jackal

Uno

I won

[keen vapor]

Don't worry about feeding, enemy always targets Blanc, trust @fiery parcel

[rose cairn]

Waiter! waiter! 3 pvp team comps please!! side note just got bae. (Assume I have everyone except redgood and biscuit)

[crystal flicker]

Finally someone beat my comps lmao

[keen vapor]

Please sponsor

[umbral crown]

I know that feeling

[keen vapor]

You do?

[umbral crown]

Maybe

[steel meteor]

Now that I got more characters, how can I rebuild teams for sp arena (everyone’s lv 1 cuz I wanna re prioritise who needs syncho)

[sharp beacon]

What teams should I be running for PVP? I have just about everyone but noah

[warped cedar]

For gem rewards at the end is it based on point ranking or battle ranking?

[raven plover]

point

battle ranking last day last minute gonna be chaos

[warped cedar]

Do you get any points from losing?

[raven plover]

no its time based, how long you hold the position

[warped cedar]

So if i try to climb higher but lose to a higher position, its just worthless

Like if I was stuck at gold an couldnt beat any platinums all my losing attempts dont contribute anything?

[raven plover]

yes, thats why returnee pretty much dead pvp

new accounts should be ok just ask teams here

[warped cedar]

not a new account but never did too much in PvP

[fast harness]

as long as you have been playing consistently since you started and are around everyone else's sync level, you are still able to catch up

[thorn marlin]

who is should put for pvp

who should i put*

doesnt make a diff but here

[grizzled bone]

PVP gang, should I reset Biscuit when given the opportunity? I think majority of the time most of us are using her for S2 and don't burst with her.

[fast harness]

how high are her skills?

[grizzled bone]

Currently have her at 4-7-7. The 7 in B3 is kind of tempting to reinvest

[grizzled bone]

You should post your roster sorted by power anyway so that we can see who has higher investments

[fast harness]

Assuming you'd go back to 4-4-4 that's what ~16 days of burst mats back

[umbral crown]

Then try to burst with her

[grizzled bone]

no u

[velvet sky]

i do but only in moran-sanis team which is why mine is high invest, outside of that team should be fine at 4

[umbral crown]

I do

go give me those mats then

[rich quail]

I see @keen vapor having problems with Blanc getting focused down

[grizzled bone]

no i need them

[rich quail]

[umbral crown]

I need it more

[grizzled bone]

im moranless...

[umbral crown]

Imagine being moranless

[rich quail]

@keen vapor I have the same Blanc problem

[umbral crown]

[grizzled bone]

biscuit is low priority reset for me anyway. Gonna pull the trigger on Rem and maybe A2 and 2B

[grizzled bone]

🖕

[umbral crown]

With those mats my moran can max her burst

Just think about it

[velvet sky]

i have a funny vid of moran vs cp gap

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

If you can re send but without selecting anyone would be better

[wary jay]

isn't it normal since Blanc being a natural AR doesn't cover until she reloads? which is why AI tends to target her? might be wearing my tinfoil hat on, but that would be my assumption based on the targeting system unless something goofy is happening.

[velvet sky]

[raven plover]

the thing is its on p2 and p1 is scarlet which is AR too

[umbral crown]

Blanc/Scarlet/Liter/Centi/Jackal

Noah/Rapunzel/SBS/Biscuit/Anis

Viper/Dwife/Alice/Bunny Soda/Noir

[grizzled bone]

what about my future moran?

[wary jay]

well peperip then

[umbral crown]

Rookie or SP

[molten spire]

can I get a list of good pvp nikkes?

[velvet sky]

https://tinyurl.com/nikke-pvp-tierlist

[rose cairn]

Ah alright here

[umbral crown]

She can wait

[molten spire]

ty

[keen vapor]

You will when you get Moran

[molten spire]

wew I got scarlet already, its rank 4 best nikke for pvp?

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Was thinking the same for Rem

[keen vapor]

:deadge:

[rich quail]

That’s a good question, and I wish I had the answer… but it’s really hard to figure out what triggers it to happen.

I’ve had instances where Blanc is P2, and gets focused down if Emi is at p1, but when Scarlet is at p1 they focus on Scarlet only

Then you see @keen vapor and his vid today with Scarlet at p1 and Blanc p2, and he got focused down

I’ve also been focused down with Blanc at p4

It might have to do with the rl units in your team, it might be enemies target skipping to Blanc because of a lack of sg or non sg units

It’s all wizardry to me rn

[keen vapor]

Not even avoiding Emi nuke worked, I'm doomed :deadge:

[rich quail]

just search blanc focus to see some of my past clips of it happening, and the discussions afterwards

[umbral crown]

Noah/Noise/S.Anis/Rapunzel/Tia

Scarlet/Blanc/Liter/Centi/Jackal

Crown/D.Wife/Alice/Noir/SBS

[molten spire]

I need limit breaker and more level up, sob

[rose cairn]

Thanks chef

[umbral crown]

The hard part is getting scarlet copies

[keen vapor]

Tia cooking without Biscuit huh?

[grizzled bone]

I was holding out on resetting her but she's not used for any of the pve content now with Crown here and Mari on the way

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Imaigine if the boi had biscuit

[keen vapor]

Someday a water raid will come but by then I've been farming overclock 25r

[rich quail]

@keen vapor stop cursing us with your Blanc bad luck

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

Viper+ will shine

[rich quail]

It’s YOUR FAULT my Blanc gets beaten up

[keen vapor]

I'm farming her treasure :frog sip:

[molten spire]

is scarlet really for pvp?

[umbral crown]

Yes, one of the besto units

[keen vapor]

[umbral crown]

Phase 3 or nothing

[molten spire]

her hp is pretty sad

[fast harness]

friends recommended rosanna investment?

[keen vapor]

Phase 2

[keen vapor]

Time to farm Indivillia

[umbral crown]

Once you invest on her this gonna change

[keen vapor]

Max her burst and the debuffer skill

[umbral crown]

If you can afford only

[molten spire]

shes only Lvl 105 currently

[keen vapor]

You say it as if you didn't use synchro device

[umbral crown]

7/10/10 in skills, 30%+ ATK in OL, SR doll phase 5 and some elemental or critc

[molten spire]

uh she isnt there

[keen vapor]

That

[keen vapor]

Why not :pepeh:

[fast harness]

Might focus that in a bit, hopefully before champ arena opens up

[molten spire]

[velvet sky]

• depending on bracket & sync lvl 40+% atk

[keen vapor]

Level 100 Kilo, PVP brick :deadge:

[umbral crown]

Nice

[keen vapor]

It should be 225 :deadge: why so slacker

[molten spire]

didnt had enough mats for to level Kilo

[umbral crown]

This as well

[molten spire]

I dont play much

[rich quail]

Echo’s Blanc = pvp brick

The total opposite of the real Blanc… most unluckiest unit

[keen vapor]

Then forget about PVP

[umbral crown]

Why

[keen vapor]

He's bricking

100 levels below his enemies

[molten spire]

me wanna play, gr

[keen vapor]

Gr?

[umbral crown]

[molten spire]

GRR!

[keen vapor]

[velvet sky]

[umbral crown]

Bro gonna whale 100 levels, worry not

[keen vapor]

Poli

:worry:

[wary jay]

[molten spire]

I'm leveling them while also playing pve then gonna move to pvp

[keen vapor]

Kanna

[keen vapor]

Go go go

[wary jay]

-# ↑ the guy above me has to give me a Rei pass.
o/

[umbral crown]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-maid-kanna-kobayashi-anime-anime-cute-gif-22259277

[wary jay]

[rich quail]

Echo when u going up 100 levels in a day?

[keen vapor]

I'M HOBO

[keen vapor]

I can't mald that much campaign in a day

[molten spire]

not enough mats to level up further!

[keen vapor]

Kanna sip

[umbral crown]

Palabraa, palabras palabraass

[rich quail]

Did u beat that level that you were saying was too hard for u?

[wary jay]

-# ⚠︎ This user doesn't believe you.

[keen vapor]

[rich quail]

U are right to doubt @wary jay

[keen vapor]

I did beat Aurora's Summer Anis team

With blue CP

[rich quail]

Who?

[keen vapor]

: pepeh: give me those 10k core dust

[molten spire]

i'm broke >:(

[keen vapor]

Dum F2P in my bracket

[rich quail]

I’m talking about that hard campaign level where I had to show u what’s up and beat it

[keen vapor]

:susge: fine.....

[molten spire]

havent paid a cent on the game

[rich quail]

@keen vapor Hard Campaign 15-18

[keen vapor]

Ah, that

15-18 is better to do with Emilia

[grizzled bone]

kobayashi dragon maid collab would go hard

[keen vapor]

Emi nuke :Blanc nod:

[rich quail]

Prolly even better w/A2

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Don't have :deadge:

[keen vapor]

Me neither

[molten spire]

no paying is more fun

[rich quail]

@keen vapor tell me when your Blanc problem gets fixed

[keen vapor]

[molten spire]

should I use blanc

[keen vapor]

Yes

[polar bolt]

Any recommendation against this set up?

Here's what I'm working with

[grizzled bone]

emi investments?

[polar bolt]

7/7/7 21% CS

[grizzled bone]

that T3 is probably the easiest to beat

[iron vortex]

can I beat this guy in rookie arena?

stuck at rank 2

[grizzled bone]

maybe?
T1: Blanc/Emi/RH/Noir/Jackal
T2: skip (1 unit in p5)
T3: Noise/Noah/SBS/Biscuit/Tia

calculate deficit before attacking

[grizzled bone]

you gotta deselect any units and sorted by power

[iron vortex]

if not, then how long do I have to go up against this guy in rookie arena?

[iron vortex]

oh ok

[grizzled bone]

have you been losing to this guy?

[iron vortex]

yea, the only one who keeps beating me in arena lol

[grizzled bone]

what team did you try before?

[iron vortex]

this one

got rank 1 for 4 weeks

[grizzled bone]

i wouldn't use laplace for pvp until you get her treasure unless you have no options just FYI

[grizzled bone]

this team lacks any burst generation. I think you coould beat him with 2RL or a shotgun team

[iron vortex]

what's 2RL?

[grizzled bone]

2 rocket launcher

[iron vortex]

so switch off laplace with maiden?

for shotgun team

[grizzled bone]

whats your S Anis investments?

[iron vortex]

skill are 7-6-8

[fiery parcel]

Wish i had blanc

[iron vortex]

level 4 resillience cube

[grizzled bone]

this team lost because of the CP difference btw

[grizzled bone]

how much CP with Rapu/Poli/S Anis/Maiden/Jackal?

[iron vortex]

hang on

[velvet sky]

no noir with sanis

[grizzled bone]

oh right

[velvet sky]

maiden

[grizzled bone]

edited

Ely i love you

why am i cooking if you're here?

[iron vortex]

sanis is the only one with actual investment lol