#pvp-arena
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I am planning to get one of those custom cases next month to get 160 core dust cases
Basically to slightly offset the investment in core dust I have on Mast
I don’t mind doing that because I play Nikke all the time, and I haven’t really bought anything el-
I AM NOT A WHALE
Guess SR doll ramped that to that CP
Oh right speaking of arm..
Is it just me but somehow I don't get rocks on any other bosses aside from Kraken
bad luck
I haven’t gotten rocks from any other Anomaly boss besides Kraken
i think some have posted doing ultra and getting some
I tried Mirror and Ultra, but I always get equipment from them while on Kraken it was consistently rocks
But I can barely get to stage 3 on most bosses
Mmh that is weird.. Whenever I tried Kraken it always rocks and that box on the lower portion, like its always a guarantee
While doing other bosses, like nothing, just equipments

you get to eat dinner? ! 🐳
Bbl
Who for pvp?
Aoiiiiiiii I am doing this for SCIENCE
Sp
got x4 from ultra today
after im done with rocks, gonna focus on the helmet boss next 
Ok thx
I did helmet boss today
Finally got a helmet for Crown
Same for attack?

throw me abnormals
I’ll dig an underground tunnel and leave a set for u 
dear diary
today i encountered a chad watching AV in a public restroom. on speakers at full volume.
Thx
dw i already got tempbanned ingame twice today
this would just be cherry on top
i saw some of the rei math
looks like very interesting unit for pvp, kinda surprisingly
do we know if its normal SR burst gen?
Back then, I saw one in a computer shop, he was even doing that while watching.. it was kinda awkward to use his computer space afterward that I asked I'll just wait for a different one to open up 
Prolly Mari?
Is Asuka same BG as Scarlet?
Oh I thought her being a 20 ammo AR makes her similar to Scarlet
Speaking of which
You guys can prolly test whiffing using 20 ammo Asuka?
Or is it not the same when doing it with 20 ammo Scarlet?
no video atm but didnt whiff on me anyway
if want video can film some again tomorrow
out of rookie atts 😅
Me too, I used it all up testing how much RLs needed for my sacc Quiry to go inactive 
Just got S.anis 9/9/9, should I change up my teams at all?
Roster is still basically the same, alice 57k CP, mod 46k, everyone else top row ~30k
Oh this is weird, it is my first time encountering this. SG hits SAnis, then shifts to P4.. but SAnis is not RL/SR tho 

Now what is this
Was first round a skip?
Sg targeting is why i don’t like running blanc without jackal against them 
That quiry cs lol, she sure does shoot fast
is ur def losing a lot
I’m swapping places a lot yeah
5-0 Speed Round today
Super sloppy last match… I experimented with Rosanna at p3, no Jackal, severely handicapped due to cp deficit
I didn’t burst, but I still won somehow
it's why i always put rosy on p4 
That’s a good idea 
so if sanis dies, there's still sbs as backup
I usually put Rosie at p3 when Jackal is at p5, but I really need to OL the other 3 gears of hers
Because Jackal cp is low now
But that’s ok
because today
… I learned
ET getting more powerful 
Both
recommendations?

wait a bit first, hard to say
Oh I’m pulling regardless munch
She's MG tho
Yeah, I’m leaning towards pulling as well
U right
All 3 seem to be worth getting in some fashion
Asuka already getting raves about being meta for bosses
@worn field thanks a bunch. Sorry was in the middle of something
Who should I use instead if my Emilia isn't built?
Wat about scar
I’m waiting to get t9m pilgrim helmet for Scarlet
Then pray that I get another my 2nd max ammo line from that gear
So i can switch from Resilience Cube to Bastion
I mean if Rei's Nuke is strong enough she may be PvP meta
I see gotcha
Yeah
My Pilgrim, Tetra, Tribe all nihilister 
My cp is just one problem
I think I have to do some film study
Don’t sort by burst
Sort by power only
Strongest to weakest
aka default when you enter that screen
Me and other Scarlet player trading D2 /D5 on a daily basis
I probably need to reorg my defence, meh
I want to learn how to make tricky, unconventional defenses
thanks, will attempt
The ones that are layered and have back up phases if the main defensive tactics fail
Wats her full name
Ayanami, Rei?
Rei.A
done
Attack of the RHs
Bro is cooking
Arena break is wednesday again? 
- blanc / emilia / biscuit / RH / jakal
- noah / biscuit / emilia / RH / MW
- blanc / emilia / biscuit / rapuzel / crown
- noah / emilia / RH / jakal / MW
- blanc / biscuit / emilia / MW / rapunzel
moran / jakal / biscuit / sanis / MW
@worthy knoll at the end the rosanna burst hit p1-p2 if no attacker; 1 attacker p3 2nd hit p5; attacker p4 2nd hit p1? and attacker p2 is p1, 4 or5?
For rookie i think after this current season
okay, that S.Anis was so hurt... my emilia could get dying fast without noah, thanks for the suggest gonna try better than not, even lose again 
lah indo 
ty

wkwkwk, MW? Maxwell? havent built yet ugh

rookie is still 9d :forg sip:
Sept 4rd i think is the shuffle
one last season 
iya maxwell, you only need to upgrade skill 1,
■ Straight Shot
■ Activates when entering Full Burst. Affects 2 allies with the highest ATK. Charge Speed ▲ 4.48% for 10 sec. ATK ▲ 43.1% for 10 sec.
Ahh, though that is just against defending Rosanna as stated there. Somehow Attacking Rosanna has different targeting. Didn't further test with P1 P2 Rosanna coz its tauntable positions, while P5 Rosanna is just a bad position to place her on.
still works for me, i need to change teams and i have prepared 4 new for sp, i just need to calculate damage and speed for some specific comps and and i was wondering if my 4th team with rosanna was better than my 3rd team without her
tried one, using "noah / biscuit / emilia / RH / MW". lose, but it's progress up bcause it's killed 3 char of the oponents, but still my dps ded in the end. my MW is not in OL, since just finished OL S.anis first
its should be like this if already invested
Team for def pvp?
dayum, wipe 4 out instantly, hmmm better OL my Maxwell then Laplace
. gonna need time to OL Maxwell
.
mending laplace dulu kalo laplace ny udah treasur 1
already Tresure 1, so Laplace first? okay then 
any recs for arena teams?
how about defens? but yeah still lose when the last opponent targeting me
iya, lap1 is now often used on SP arena
New challenger 
New leviathans 
I usually use these.
scarlet / noah / emilia / RH / jakal

Wanna find someone who makes me gem again in sp
sp pls
But you enjoying your 3k gems 
okay, for now better be patient and ignoring him attacking me...
Jist a bit
You getting free multi for Collab 
Thats true, sadly just to get Rs
Me 
But since C2,C3 and C5 are a mess, its been 2 days since they do not try to attack me
Me and C4 be like: 
Will the Scarlet ver always work fine even if enemy SAnis is lower in atk than Noise and Biscuit?
:Kanna sip: the ending position is pretty much decided anyways
Its just the C5 not really aggresive
C3 does not gem and he could settle it by attacking before reset

:sus sip: do you like Scarlet 2RL teams?@umbral crown
Not really since i use scarlet with rosanna but since my sac is working,i think mine is kinda 2 or 2.5
So you do 
Please do this at the lobby, not PVP itself
uhh ok

@umbral crown got some addiction to birb? 
Probably 
Sometimes people will deselect but keep the old formation registered :deadge: instead of the reset button
It also works for the Rapu version?
You mean pre burst right away? I usually don't see any of my Noah SAnis variant enemies dying from Scarlet S2 pre burst since dolls release.. 🤔
After Res? Wait will the Scarlet team able to burst and kill Noise?
So Rapu will res?
You said res, so its Rapu bursting right? Not Noise?
Noah Noise Biscuit SAnis Rapu, only for Rapu to burst is Noise dying
Yeah but my opponents SAnis just doesn't die to Scarlet S2 pre burst nowadays.. they usually somewhere around 50% hp left if not more before B1 start bursting or maybe just coz it a sync issue 🤔
My average opponents are usually from 30-60+ sync above me, maybe my metrics are skewed negatively coz they are my only test targets 🤔
Without a doubt, that's the problem
?
At least you have opponents
This is how my SP looks like
Don't you like that
Too boring
Or will you enjoy it more if you are in a bracket like where Keripo is?
Was way more entertaining to ping pong with the Chinese
I mean I can’t test anything if I don’t have opponents to hit 
I don't in SP tho, only on rookies unless the team I'm looking for isn't a staple there (like a Rosanna team) 
What HP of mast and enemy sync?
At 1.2M my Quiry had even like 300k+ hp left after the first volley, and its already on penalty
933k, so similar to my 71 sync Quiry right now.. well I resetted and stopped at around 900k hp this when my 1.2M quiry was still alive even on penalty.
Though I think she don't die instantly if opponent RL is like just Jackal Centi Anis
Uhh.. wait
Sanis hit her?
Yeah there was that shotgun animation
That also planned?

Hmm 2, is it exactly all 6 shots? Or like 1 RL volley and 1 RL shot only?
Yeah I mean after 1 RL, does all 4 need to hit her or just one is counted?
Like Mast is already dying, if she dies with like the first RL shot of the 2nd RL volley, the others don't get gen right?
So exactly is it 1 RL time and 1 Emi shot? 1 RL time and 1 Emi and Biscuit shot? Or such
Mmh thats is true too.. is it possible they also get gen from splash even if opponent targetted by spalsh is on a dying animation 
Oh right, when you tried that same team without Jackal against a Scarlet P1 team? Was your Rosanna fine and still able to burst?
I usually have my Rosanna die from Scarlet S2 if she is unlinked 
Yeah the one with the sac
I tried with Centi and Jackal Rosanna before
It usually ends up with Rosanna dying just by hitting P1 Scar
And since no backup B1 it become an instant loss. I even put Rosanna at P4 and with Vigor, has SR doll but she is always the first to die than even the enemy P1 Scarlet who is getting hit by Scarlet, Rosanna and the other RL units
Even unlinked enemy Scarlet just kills her fast than enemy Scarlet can die 
Trying to beat this guy in pvp.
Thankyou so much
*Noted, gonna try beat him again next time
Should be fine
I saw that 
He should be able to beat both t1 and t2 with his t2 he has no deficit vs t2 I believe
Or wait he actually has nvm, yea t2 to t1
Unlikely at that synchro
Thanks all, this worked. Could you give me a little theory on why it did so well? Trying to understand better. I know the basics of RL charging burst etc, but which teams to put against which is still hard for me to grok
:sip:
Oh huh, having a team with only 1 char affects the next combat targeting? That seems weird
Gotcha
Is cp deficit here too high to win? If not what could I do?
This doesn't works :deadge:
Got purple doll on rh? Or sanis
RH has level 0 purple, sanis has level 0 blue
Just use what zixk wrote. I haven’t seen your box and he already gave suggestion so
Love the whale emoji on the box lmao
I deserve it it's ok
I mean judging from the amount of cores on each chara and costume bought this guy is definitely a 
is that a r/cc emote
He even have novel Halloween costume who even buys that 
yes it is
Yes it is
how much $ have you spent on gacha games ? 
Go with zixk suggestion
how much time, then 
Don’t tell me you play league and bought the 500$ ahri costume
Munch with the against ToS offensive language
wth is offensive about that
main channel can literally discuss the karma sutra and i cant say holy sht
yea AK
i just miss quickscoping people
most of what i remember from oldschool regional FPS games was learning to curse people in every SEA language
What is AK?
oh easy, if people call me hax i would just invite them to the cybercafe i was playing at
I thought it was Arknights at first but it seems an FPS game
I assume you mean s anis? My normal anis is poop atm
and yea, if my mood was bad enough i would drag them behind a corner somewhere and beat them
Ahh I thought AK was a game, so was still discussing CF
good old days when there werent cameras everywhere
nah that cybercafe in question have fight going on every single day, multiple times per day
it was just normal
Sounds like your regular cybercafe in the 2000s
i cant do stuff like that anymore though
got a life that i really like and too many responsibilities
dont want to jeopardise it 😂
||The one I saw back then in the corner seat of the cybercafe was beating something else|| 
His meat?

Both teams got decimated :( rap Emilia centi died almost immediately. T3 lasted longer but only got enemy to about 45%
Skip
Noah biscuit rh rapunzel centi
Scarlet blanc liter anis jackal
Quantum cubes on jackal centi anis
T3 his scarlet should one shot with double buff. Possible enemy Noah bursted before scarlet?
I didn't record, probably should have in hindsight.
That’s why I think Noah bursted before him. And since he uses xanne he gets blown
Just use blanc if Noah bursts he still s2 sanis out
I’m curious how his t2 Emilia and centi died before burst tho
Noah biscuit rh it is. Has purple doll on rh should be able to survive one buff scarlet (I believe)
I’m also preeeetty certain he put his skip unit in pos 1 instead pos 5 so there was some residual from t1 to t2
Emilia skill level prolly?
Damage can go round to round???
@mild moat your skip unit in t1 was in pos 1 or pos 5?
how can I force it into p5? whenever I put it in p5 it just aauto moves it backt o p1

I mean I did ofc
but this has always happened this way, so I assumed it was just a visual thing
in the team maker I did, but when I click save it auto moves it to p1
I might just be dumb?
I'll try it next time I'm allowed to do arena and see if I was just being stupid
I'd prefer me being stupid to the game being bugged or whatever
Hi, can someone help me build the best 3 teams i can for sp arena pls ?
I have all of these nikkes for the moment
I think its not a good example if you are hitting even until Rapunzel with the RLs 
Well for me using Scarlet against that team is usually 50/50
Well it was so unreliable I just ditch using Scarlet against it 
I see a lot of pro Emilia iframers when against that team 
They iframe the second Emilia icicle
did u offer to help him out ?
Better comp? Switch rh for jackal
What’s the idea for your comp? If you want to use jackal vs that specific team you should switch out sanis not rh
And attack i put the same ?
Incoming zixk auto generated wall of text on why you shouldn’t use def teams on atk
Nah, more like I was supposed to use his space, I asked the counter that I will wait for a different one to open up. Though me and my friends were like, that guy has some serious balls of steel when he got up and left after we saw him 

f---k
is it possible to just propose to mods
Why don’t you just add the “you can use 2 teams and skip one” in this text. You could save one more message 
we have certain commands that will just autosend the msg for us
And which team do i put on attack ?? I know nothing abt PvP meta
instead of us copy+paste manually every single time
Ok thx
That Noah knows a projectile is going after her and immediately goes into cover 
Alright enough maincord for today, back to bakery
Opponent team is 3 rl, Jackal will make me 2rl I think, then emi nuke blocked?
Just replace RH to Rapunzel with Vigor?
Jackal burst gen or jackal feed imgs?
Yeah, I also didn't look at that before
So why do you want to put jackal there then?
what do you mean bakery ? is that name of game
I mean I can just manually count it 
Specific community nikke discord server
I waa thinking become 2rl, then block nuke and let sanis do the rest but unbuffed
FYI you had a rl whiff there, kinda messed up your burst gen
Might be your charge speed bug?
Though usually I block scar
Is Kancolle considered a Gacha game?
@worn field cs bug is still existing right? They didn’t fix it
Main problem is all my rls whiffed lol, so I didn’t get any gen on 1rl except rh. The comp should work, but whiff 
I mean enemy doesn’t have jackal so if you have rl whiff issues you can just use clip shotguns to offset it?
Is your Noah Noise Biscuit SAnis Rapunzel the same?
Ok tyvm for the help
Yh, I usually don’t like running sg against scar, unless i’m saccing, to be honest, I could probably rosanna it too there’s rapu
yeah i got more whiffed on rookie arena than in sp arena
I haven’t tried
, this comp hasn’t lost yet
On the contrary I love to run sg any time I get an opportunity
It’s always fun to nuke enemy teams before they can burst 
thats the reason why i never bring 2 RL comp agains those noah comp
Yh, makes god comp scar better than it should 
When I was testing, any 2 RL scar comps I came up with, all SAnis teams I fought it can just tank it like 8 out 10 times. Like Noise dies but Rapu resu Though none of them were whiffing
Prolly one I won is when I crit killed Rapu 
Sounds like a rapunzel without purple doll 
I think's it's because you don't use currency to directly pull for characters? I've never played so not sure
is it private or public ? i want to join too
Some channels are public and there’s the bakery union channels for the union members
Why did this got flagged, well my reply was that one 

Oh.. the "though t"
Has to do with that I think 

maincord is fine as long as u stick to this channel 
Imagine not being able to say that word in a game like this
Eh I usually come occasionally for the coop channel. PvP channel I pop up like once a month lmao
Could u send up link ?
DMd
forgot we cant send link here 
invalid invite
Wut
the heck why i got banned lmao 
@umbral crown seems like there’s some restrictions to joining the cool kids club 
Won’t be seeing my pepega suggestions for PvP attacker teams 
dunno, I forgot, I think I joined, I'm trying to join some nikke communities.

hahaha looks like that

nop, there wasn’t any gacha, meanwhile azur lane which is similar is gacha
Huh, what's the restriction ?
I’m joking, no restrictions just not sure why are you banned. Someone was being naughty before it seems
1h 27 min*
we cosplay nesso today too 
I usually actively chat in this maincord, I think I even rarely send chats in that community

bruh why ? just unban, Its not like I'm doing anything illegal 
DM komatsu and ask him to check what’s up
okay, I thought you were the admin
who is komatsu again 
ive never see thats name in this channel
Go to the union recruitment channel and find the recruitment post. Don’t want to ping people in PvP channel

So make them pvp someome, ez

10min*
Siete
Winnable?
Ni
A sniper! 
Ichi
Use Summer Anis in Noah team, not SBS
reset*
No Blanc?
Ended up hitting before the day reset and won with original team 💀
No way
Yeah first team insta wiped, second team I got dogged on, and last team my SBS one shotted after Noah burst ended
256 now
@umbral crown @rich quail
back to rock mining 
I had to reset dispatch two times for the first time 
+0rocks
How 
2nd time this has happened with the new interception
i also got no rocks
1 rock. But no t9m
1 rock 
bruh stupid kraken not a single rock never doing u again 
kraken is a bait
krak, indi, harvester are all bait right now
but no use for rosanna in my new def teams
no use for rosanna? Whats your def?
Good question 
my current teams have rosanna, now i'm testing a new one for sp but nothing to say for the moment
Oh, that makes sense
+1 rock f this game
tbh im waiting for CA ruleset
i wonder how its gonna work out
cries in phase6-7(?
just got pepper and scarlet. any changes for sp def? @worn field
crown/liter/maiden/sugar/jackal
blanc/RH/noir/centi/drake
moran/sanis/biscuit/anis/laplace
putting scarlet over maiden in t1 makes it 3RL to 3.5RL
also do i need to make sure scarlet is jackal linked? crown liter higher atk rn lvled gear and now scarlet/liter highest atk
phase4/5 ultra
i already have 4 different lineups, with 4-5 teams some need more resources than others so i can't test all teams for that
ein and bsoda/rosanna(if) investment?
Yeah.. it really did not work for me 
comparison or first try?
3 out of 3 against the same guy it failed
he will have to pay our pvp whale tax at this point if he wants C2 that badly
basically outspend our resident C1 leviathan
Always ends like this
double whiff xd
you are leviathan?
no i mean C1 , I'm C2
I've only spent like 50-60$ on this game
but you could be leviathan 
I don't think its about the whiff though, even when both burst at the same time, I killed their SAnis yes, my SAnis Scarlet alive yes, but after that first FB my Scarlet is dying and there is no oomph anymore in the damage the moment Scarlet dies
what are you testing now? or just want the win?
I only killed Noise and SAnis during the FB, they killed my Noah. It seems like I should have won the exchange but no after care after first FB 🤔
Just trying out the team Zixk mentioned
link, video, description or something?
@pastel narwhal whats your server number? out of curiosity
Its here,the one I replied to
i think the S2 against sanis is harder now because puppets+hp stats for heals
Yeah had the same opinion
this one? i haven't checked on these in awhile now
Nero team still more stable for me 
this one in your profile
when did you start playing? we're same account lvl
dunno exact date but i think around chainsaw man event
you are also SEA right?
got 2+1 
i play in NA
maybe I'll start ultra soon
Besti better at game than me 
oh lol
ehhh im horrible at pve, just spent everything on pvp
Ultra is not bad but for me I’m only getting to Stage 3
i did try a mock on ultra and it's hard to break those qte's somehow or just bad timing
well, i'll learn that soon
I think Ultra has the easiest QTE tho
Yeah, Ultra is not hard at all
Just annoying when doing blast to poison
can noah survive with tempering+ S1-2 noise/noah lvls?
Time killing moves
Blast you can just tank if using Crown
about 5 more days til we figure out what this does 
Already tempering and all max lvl in skills for both
rip
Really? I’ll try that next time then
I use Crown SBS Alice RH Rapu
The discombobulator!
Best one I think is Crown Liter RH SW SHelm
wait, lvl/stats diff or just a good sanis? i think my noah can tank more against some sanis teams or maybe is just because rapu
My SW not invested 
SW abuse Core at low HP
I reset SW for Crown
Not much regrets over that, but I was really close to 10/10/10 SW
Sync diff about 20ish? 387 vs 414
SW was fun 'til I get to use her on raids
she's in limbo for now
Or Biscuit 
My summer vacation is officially over today
naa, i run biscuit with blanc sometimes, no mirror against sanis teams because i lose by dupe/OL diff
i run RH or other teams
My summer memories 2024 will consist of that week of grinding for gems just to get enough for S.Anis dupes
Ein is 10/10/10 - 5/5/5/5 OL
BSoda 4/4/4 - 0/0/0/0 OL
Rosanna - Not Available
that memory will stick around that sweet sweet sanis lobby wallpaper 
My iPhone can’t do that kind of wallpaper without completely chugging 
why not get some cheap android?
Because I am able to replace my iPhone for free at any time with the plan I’m on
And I will switch out to a new iPhone next month
so an upgrade is free with your plan?
Also, I used iPhone for so long that I bought so many things over the years… and it won’t carry over to Android
Yes, free upgrade. Also free repairs.
Earlier this year I had a free battery replacement

ET deep into the apple eco
ohhhh, hopefully the new upgrade fixes stuff 
echo jumpscare 
I just want to play without crashing 6 times a day

how dare you
You were supposed to sponsor me
ups, gtg run some errands, cya later 
bye aoi
take care
Behemoth 

Thinking how to defend against jackal biscuit and noah 
Main offensive comps for ca
Need to fully show the team
And units
Finally got Centi today
2RL Scar nuke! 
You day 1 player?
I forgot 
So you got Noah 
Yes

@umbral crown your brother

Ya been over just need something else to change to
Would be funny if Maxwell just never appears
Something else?

🍇
Like....
Like pvp joke
Ah, I see
Echo change name very often
Doesn’t hoard that
Used to
Not now that I lost Nitro

9 more level
:why why:
I can't hoard
I would if I were able to
I hoard gems 
whiff, expect 4rl 
you can try
T1-moran/biscuit/sanis/emi/centi
T2-bsoda/blanc/laplace/rh/jackal (need high elemental damage lines soda-rh-laplace)
T3-noah/noise/sbs/noir/anis (noise-noir-anis quantum+7)
T2 just normal scarlet/blanc team- scarlet/blanc-xanne/laplace/pepper-rh/jackal or fill with high cp units
How much elemental for rosanna to ko Emilia without concealment, so only the first hit on burst. Assuming 30% attack ols?
1line?(+20) i think it depends on rosanna S2 proc or dupe count+puppet+synchro(or stats diff)
Yh, this is without a sac trigger
you can add cheap damage but even if my rosanna have +47%atk i will still hunt for at least 2 elemental damage lines
i don't remember how the crit works in this game, but if you go with 4atk-2ele-3-ammo you can get 3 crit rate lines or crit damage
I got the 4 atk
But not much else
2 gears are bad one-liners
Like the ones I usually deal out here

More than my 44
sac comp with mast or SG?
1 line is ok
for crit rate, if you go for oneshot and nothing more +2lines
but i think crit damage help her more for post burst damage
Gonna aim for 4/10/4 for Mast to start with, eventually 10/10/10 to keep people honest
If people try to avoid hitting Mast at p2
quantum on rosanna?
Yeah she got it right now
Level 6 quantum
Gonna see if I can do one more quantum level to up the burst gen
Mast has resilience cube mainly for cp (lvl 8)
Otherwise she is 2k lower in cp without cube
Plan to get Mast all OL+0, no doll to see how she fares
Not sure if lines really matter to Mast but I’ll try to focus on crit rate and crit dmg (although I would guess this affects her own attacks and not her skill passives)
Are you gonna spend rock to reroll mast OL line?
Ah ok. The plan is to see how she is at 160 non-sync with OL+0 and no doll
I will add R doll if it helps. Zixk thinks it’ll be ok but maybe SR isn’t a good idea rn
the answer is: wait and see
don't waste your resources
Most likely not, if line effects don’t matter to her skill passives
However having 3 lines on a gear is more cp than one, especially ele dmg, so I may reroll if I really have to
But like Nesso said, it’s a pet project that I can’t dedicate too many resources on just yet
The collab characters Rei and Mari may end up being great on pvp, so I need to save mats for them
the changes for the game, since this a pvp channel we are people that focus on pvp (or pve at the same lvl) but with CA and maybe the next few units things can change drastically so is better to not use all your resources in something that is not a priority
that is the reason why pause diesel treasure
That too
Although for CA I don’t have much of a plan
Just want to do better in SP rn
maybe i will need puppet SR+15 in some units that are critical for certain comps or more SR+5; something more important than diesel
Same
Trying to make a viable 3rd, but I need to build up units for my phase 2 units (mainly supporter/defenders I rely on in pvp)
Me neither
Someone need birbs access?
I have her but apparently she's not good at defense
I wishlisted her but wishlist units still don’t come to me

novel in the WL since day 1, no copies
No Emma for me

Funny how I put Crow in my WL as a joke, and I still don't have her
Sent the invitation
I got crow as my 100th nikke

No Nitro 
thanks birb bro u da besssss
Sent 

ET has birb emojis
Imma outbirb Rosy

Do it @grizzled bone

dont have the server 
I can send to you

Does Biscuit really counter Alice?
Uhhhhh
Why would Biscuit counter Alice?
She needs Noah I think
I saw some site say so
She counters any none screen wipe char
I know Biscuit/Noah counters Scar/RH/Alice
But Biscuit by herself… I don’t think so
Especially paired with Noah
I put her with Blanc 
Enemy RH will shoot Blanc, get hindered by imdom, and basically does nothing for 5s
Well yeah if you use Blanc and indom a dps, sure
SAnis can ignore that actually
Her missiles aim for highest ATK, which aren't defense type most of the time
I dunno, I’m sure someone can answer that q for u
But I think Biscuit alone isn’t going to stop opponent Alice
@modest plover
Someone must tested it already
I’m summoned
Are you gonna put any defense type on
Um 😶
Her indom only works on Defense type, herself is a support type
If you gonna say Noise, she's also support, shock I know
You mean Biscuit’s invul?
Blanc has Indom
She ain't gonna burst if she's dead
1st priority is make her live long enough to burst
Biscuit?
Yeah I try to position her to not get hit (mainly p3 or p4)
You don’t want indom to go to Biscuit. That’s a huge waste
No Blanc, I put her in Pos 1 to use Biscuit's indom on herself to stop her from dying
ah ok I gotcha
Yeah that’s why Biscuit helps in that scenario
Same with Noah
Biscuit uses invulnerability tho
Different from indomitability
Got use to the word lol 
Invulnerability (invincibility) = life doesn’t go down
Indomitability = life still goes down, even to zero, but affected unit won’t die at zero until time limit elapses
yeah I rather not use them at longform
It goes to 0?
Isn't it just 1
Should I treasure Laplace? Currently leveling Scarlet since I just got sn AR doll
Excellent

Waoa, yang in pvp channel

hi i need a solid pvp team that can take care of most average looking enemy teams i can hit quick play on, will do some building here and there if i really need to
T1 counter:
Scar Blanc RH Anis Jackal
T2: skip
T3: Noise Noah SAnis Rapunzel Biscuit (assume SAnis burst at 9 and S2 decently high)
@umbral crown maybe T3 need change if SAnis burst not at 9?
Noah Rapunzel SAnis Priv Biscuit?
I beat team 1 but t3 killed me my Sanis is only at lvl 7 burst and 8 S2
maybe swap team 1 and T3 that u used or slot in Emma to counter that Mod 
havent use Emma tech in a while
T1:
Noah Emma SAnis Priv Biscuit
T2:Skip
T3: Scar Blanc RH Noir/Centi/Anis Jackal
any counter?
Dont have noah,bay, clay, makima or moran
pvp gang, is consistent 5% alright for UR or should i try finding a new union?
I think so, 9 is the way
Which server are you, who u have, what OL lines u got?
Hmmm no idea but if you can find a better one go for it
So you can upgrade your pvp cubes
1-2% is the sweet spot
Mine was 1%
Finished in less than 12 hours
Semi-casual but the union master boots anyone who doesn’t login for 3 days or more
My current union is lastly at 1% and its all causal without any coordination
Rosy
You broke your opponents


Boi was trying but now he decided to stay in C5
Do you see what happens when you break all of your toys?

New shuffle, new toys

I will pray that u get new toys


I’ll give you some of my sp whales

What are they like 1.7 mil cp now?
me rank 15 NA

Raid planning be tripping
@umbral crown
I would
This week rei is cominh
Who should be using the New Dmg Reduction Cube?
UR is generally easier to be competitive in your areas though no? Starts at night for me
Defenders like moran and noah who are usually at p1
For me will be always start at 11 pm but for other people around 12 pm
Me, 12pm noon
For asians
SEAsians
9 pm

so yeah 11pm on a Friday night for me 
See ya later


Looking for a team to beat this guy.
That seems like a win already
Have you lost previously?
Persistent little pest
Obviously has it out for me
He's not 
That’s for all the pests that try me

That was me before horribly failing
Dude keeps attacking and beats my def because he cp gaps me by about 180k
Doesn’t change the locks
Why bother attacking me?
If and when I catch up to him in CP, he won’t beat my def in an even match
I’ll have to make that time much sooner for him

oops, yeah im here now. no I didn't lose previously, just still not sure how to make proper counter teams
so I thought I'd ask first before trying 1/2
Overload anis and x anne
meaning give them gear? anis and moran are competing right now for the same gear, so I haven't decided who to give to
here is my xanne, no changes
Anis is used more than Moran
I see, so Jackal is missing overloads?
Jackal skills :deadge:
I didn't know any better at the time 🙃
I'm really wondering how he's getting a so high with 10 levels difference without reaching 301
Nice
I’m in the process of OLing Jackal too
for Rookie? Scarlet/Blanc/Emi/Rosanna/Biscuit
@rich quail the union recruitment channel is kinda lackluster lol
Yeah… I took a look when I shopped for unions a few months ago
Lost all 3 rounds then
I found more action looking at a bbs for Japanese unions
@stone iris For the people here who can help, please show your roster of units, sorted by power (default), screen orientation to horizontal (Settings > Nearby > Screen Orientation)
Got anis upped
How's CP team now?
is there any nikke that should have adjudant cube as their go to for PVP? I used to have it on my Noah, biscuit and noise. but theyve swapped to tempering or vigor.
Still bad lol
Seriously, how he did it
Shrug xD
You'll die before you can burst, just avoid him till you increase team CP
any better advice is greatly appreciated 🩷 im not smart so i go to prydwen.gg for cube advice typically
applying for a union is wild
but i'm doing it i guess
oyasum
I win without burst 
Adjutant Cube: It’s a little complicated because of a bug (cs sharing bug) that can cause a lot of problems with targeting (mainly a unit you’re trying to protect can get attacked more because of bug)
I personally would not use this cube until Shift Up fixes said bug
It’s a bug that has been in existence for a while now (I don’t know how long)
Can you elaborate or link me to thread for this bug?
This is a little dated btw
Some people here in this channel were able to deduce the reasons why the cs sharing bug happens on a more consistent basis
If you see zixk on here, he knows more about the subject
I read this before and I don't recall it
Only thing mention is quantum cube bug which seem to be removed alrdy
Quantum is fine now, ca lines from ol gear and adjutant cube are what can influence matters
I was having wonky targeting issues (1 unit getting focused down, ducking for cover makes opp unit aim at another unit unitl my unit comes out of cover)
I took out cs lines off characters like Noise, Noah, Biscuit. I don’t have those issues anymore
Also removed them from adjutant cube
Thank you
Any recommended teams for this
u have excessive cp deficit (penalty)
fight someone else
How much CP is your
Diesel Centi Laplace RH Rapunzel?
I wish they would group those exceeded CP guys together
It's no fun when these guys are in my group
arena group based on acc creation date
possibly u are a returning player
otherwise, pls push ur campaign harder
any counter?
Dont have noah,bay, makima or moran
It is grouped by account creation date. If you are lagging in sync by a lot to almost a lot of players, it just simply meant you were inactive for long or just that you were lazy in your campaign progress or didn't buy the extra tickets during events to get more core dust boxes. If you are same sync or even higher but lagging in CP, just means your opponents units have better OL lines. But yeah there will be whales but I doubt a whole lot of them would be 🤔
no matter what he do he cant win, i remember his box roughly
His Diesel treasure was roughly 83k+
So I thought if just used those at the top can get about 340kish CP
u posted r2 twice and didnt post r3
anyway,
blanc emi rh vs t1
2buff scarlet vs t2
I didn't lagged that much. I'm in top 10
I just hated those CP gapped guy in 1st or 2nd
lmao ok
I regret not doing the buy extra ticket for core boxes during event
I think I only started doing it during the RH event 
i didnt know to do it for a while
How much boxes did I lose out
its ok, still holding c1 so its fine
oh woops, one second
Well I can still go toe to toe CP wise even if sync gap though.. but alas.. if I was same CP on most of my peers who CP gap me by like 30-60+ I would find it easier 
i stand by what i said
skip t3
381070
Oh with that CP you can even fight T1.. mmh let see what to do for T3
aight aight, will try that
It is some of my highest cp Nikkes tho, other teams won't get that high
@copper creek what is your take, do you think Enemy Scarlet is linked?
my wager is no
I'm thinking if its fine to use SG SAnis on it
eh can try
What is your Noise Noah Biscuit SAnis Jackal CP @mild moat ?
My worry if SAnis dies pre burst 
shouldnt happen
310393
lol gg insufficient
Its fine? Lemme check
just under
Ahh 15.9
yeah me dum dum whale who doesn't understand team counters T.T
How about Scarlet Blanc Liter Emi Jackal
Can you also check if you go XAnne instead of Blanc @mild moat
Can prolly also go Noise Blanc Noah 2B Jackal, just make sure that Noah has higher charge speed than Noise 🤔
So we go
T1: Diesel/Centi(quantum))/Laplace+(quantum)/RH/Rapunzel
T2: skip (put one unit to P5)
T3: Scarlet/Blanc(or XAnne)/Liter/Emi/Jackal or
Noise/Blanc/Noah(must have higher or same charge speed than Noise, use quantum if CS enough or adjutant if need go increase CS)/2B/Jackal(Vigor)
CP requirement for T3 should be at least 313K to not be on penalty
I think you replied to wrong post
Would love some assistance with SP defense, thank you in advance 
any "default" team recommendations for atk and defense if you have access to all chars?
Any Sp arena defense suggestions with my new units? Keep getting knocked down to diamond 4 by some stalker. Just pulled 380+ last night and in came regular Rosanna and Moran. Ironic the only pilgrim I don't have now is Noah. Lol
With the increase in custom modules it appears people are really taking advantage of OL'ing more arena units
i have all the chars, and resources to invest in them, even if bit by bit if i need to change a lot, i just need a little help to update the setups
Wait, middle team no b1 with tia.. RH instead of a2? or no room for her nowadays?
I don't have noah atm, what should I do?
No... Uh i'm just going to assume I have trash pvp OL'S.
She's also at 4-7-7. Do I just focus on OL Or level her more...?
I just OL'd her once and figured i got decent ones to keep until I needed to change it lol. Tons of element...
bruh
thank you, and i know there's counters and all that, but some generic atk setups that could work?
thanks
Can we assume that if I wanted to make the 3 universally best defense teams, the teams would be a combination of the highest percentages here?
not necessarily
I appreciate this answer 
He kind of figured out , almost
Yeah, what matters is he fails most of the time
Having a set it and leave it kind of defense would be really nice to focus on building
Any advice? @worn field
It feels like a lot of people either don't know what they're doing, don't care, or don't have all the units so that there are definitely some defensive squads that will outperform others against players that aren't top tier
My interest is in building that kind of squad
Do people who cp gap me by over 100k think they get different results when they knock me down on def, but don’t change their terrible defense?
They’re wasting our time… at least make it difficult for me. 
ahhh
rant over
I feel better
I petition need 3 win in SP else its a fail 

Hi guys could someone recommend me a defence build for SP please? 
Yeah, but that answer applies to any question
I get it's not an interesting question to answer because people enjoy coming up with teams

The screenshot I shared is on tab Test Matrix V2
There's a tab with old and graveyard. Safe to assume those should be the older matrices and V2 is the latest
No big deal, yeah i think it makes sense using a combination of those teams too so good to have consensus
Assuming they're still the best, probably are
The game is unforgiving when investing in the wrong units
Hai
Anyway, I appreciate the discussion! thank you!
oh sounds nice
It’s fun, but tough
I’m making a samurai helmet logo for him
I’ve never drawn a samurai helmet before
I don’t know anything about samurai helmets
It’s the whole spectrum of feels right now
I love to learn how things work and why things are made
I don’t like deadlines tho
Samurai helmets are really cool btw
Darth Vader
Yeah, not many people know George Lucas was influenced a lot by samurai designs
@worn field
Scarlet samurai skin 
I think he answered that
At least, I tried to tell this person about the perils of using adjutant cube when cs bug still exists
zixk pointed him to issues megathread
Oh 
We totally need Scarlet with an awesome kabuto helmet

Snow White gets it
I need bay 
Noah less?
SW looks like bug though
I have noah, but I’m thinking she’s good tech for ein
I would give u Bay emote K, but there isn’t any
:pepeh:


@glad meteor Echo just wants someone to share his pain being Noahless
Is more about "You don't NEED Bay when you have the true deal"
but... mari is notr out yet
K, are u planning CA teams?
there's still cat girl 

I think I need to keep asking questions about pvp team building later
Because I need to think about CA too
Gosh darn, people really want C4 don't they
they want c4 explosiong
whoever cooked my SP defence team, thank you
Imagine whoever cooked that same SP defense will unknowingly beat it themselves someday 

Mmh, I guess this one needs 4 atk OL Scarlet for it to work even on penalty 🤔
Hey guys, could u recommend me a SP Defence build plz, 
Quiry died so fast






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