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I think he see me as a threat than wanting to go below c7
i didn't know that people stilluse the emi/crown team
did he change his def recently or he keep it like that for months?
He change, but more or less random def comp
Can’t wait for UR this weekend 
Definitely upgrading Quantum to lvl 6 to get that extra slot
Was gonna ask for advice on who to give it to
Jackal, Centi and Anis have Quantum, Noah is on Tempering
I was thinking maybe Rosie for Quantum, but I guess Emilia is also an option (she’s on Onslaught right now)
remember the cube patch
What?
What does the cube patch do?
i wonder what lvl they'll add the new cube skills 

we don't know, but SU said that they plan to increase cubes lvls, and add more slots, at least 6
maybe they change or add more effects to the current cubes
or just a upgrade to the skills
Oh… I see. Is that a part of Thursday’s update?
Ah, okay. I’m definitely down for more extra stuff 
well, you can get lv7 and change cube or wait to that patch
maybe they need more time
i still use quantum in biscuit/rh team
Main comps that benefit from quantum are comps with irregular burst gen. Mainly jackal comps, unless the comp relies on a quantum cube on a burst gen calc
Well, it’s either that, or upgrade my healing and tempering cubes
They are lvl 4 and lvl 3 respectively
need to get that 2RL
Does Rosanna count as one of those irregular burst gen Jackal partners?
depends on team units/comps
if they are going to change effects they better hand out cube resets 
and the enemy team
If using sacc you can do the math before hand to see if it helps reach a breakpoint, usually temper or vigor better to survive scar s2 before she burst
some matchups like scarlet against sanis need quantum to avoid noah wall, but most of the time you don't see a clearly use
I almost always have Jackal/Rosanna/Scarlet nowadays
On rare occasion on atk I have Emilia/Rosanna/Jackal (although my def that @umbral crown built up for me is that composition)
Temper or Vigor on Rosanna?
most likely the slots will be tied to the higher max cube level
This that hp and ehp, shiz lol, idk. I think vigor if you have sr doll?
more damage reduction is always good
in most situations, tempering if in doubt
I only have R doll

She is on Vigor rn
if in doubt, put vigor on healers and tempering on tanks
not always true but eh easy enough to remember and cant go too wrong
whjy?
depends on what you need to tank, but the HP help with the % for some skills
pick the one with higher stats, i assume vigor level 5
yep the hp% usually concerns healers (noise, rapu, biscuit)
I’m putting temper on noise since she has hp increase already on s2, plus there’s laplace danger, and she’s in p2. For defense
Vigor is in fact lvl 5
I will stick with this since it’s more utility 
Thanks guys 
yep, this
yes, my biscuit has vigor
everything else just tempering
even scarlet
TEMPURA CUBE
i use cs cube with biscuit, depends on the enemy but i always dodge 2nd hit against 2RL teams (2 people) or noah just dodge initial hit against others
Tempura! Tempura! Tempura!
f u guys now i want tempura
and the izakaya closed today
i like tempering on taunt/defender
at sub-300sync anyway it means my blanc in p1 very comfortably doesnt need biscuit
31 i think
tempura 31
channel echo stash powah 
no problems against scarlet p1?
no ones cracked it yet anyway
is it good or
oh
is worth the 1kburst?

imma have to talk with wallet chan to unlock me 3 chaps
wait wait wait, treasure viper sac?

You just said the magic words
TREASURE
VIPER
SAC


WOULD
mast lv160 or higher? the cp should be like 30k only(?
The correct response is:
I w-
wait min... commandar has really looong arms 
I W
synchro lock with doll introductions for ca
all CA units with SR+5
You going to invest in viper+?
i need like 3 more SR to change the R in my sp teams
if doll levels are locked then my rosy would cause mayhem 
Sr dolls take to many resources, could use for creating base doll level for ca imo
but it’s upto you 
too much damage at lower lvls or no hp stats to tank?
ies, im.ready
what 3 teams do i make
+1 rip
window broken 
For future phase 4 
I'm more broke than ever 
is this official?
the new lobby wallpaper? I think so, it's taken from prydwen
pelvis crushed 

howdoigetit
her mlb is peak too
im using it rn
get their treasure 
By upgradin vipers doll to SSR

how do i do that
can i start with the blue one and then it just upgrades
Of course
so i need the sr first
Yes
True, imagine losing powa of my rosy with max doll

You also need Viper at limit break 2 at least
Can’t imagine how much real cash that the whales spend to get most/all their dolls to SR 15

I am not a whale
so I have to ask
from a 100-200 dolla to infinity, what's funny is I got exia's treasure from 10 to 15 with just blue mats
They spend gems rerolling dispatch and the doll offers
don’t know how much though
You got the SSR in FGO 
@worn field I had a question about something that I talked about with someone earlier today
I mentioned that I ended up getting a cs line on Rapunzel and Biscuit when upgrading to OL+0 (4.92% for both). I asked if I had to worry about removing the line on each unit
I got a response saying that if the unit with a cs line is on p1, p2 or p3, it may have a chance of being targeted. If the unit is on p4 or p5, it doesn’t have as much of a chance to get targeted (relatively safe)
Is this correct?


You did it 
for blue mats 10-> 15 is like hmmm 2-4% ? I forgot , still abyssmal 
3.3

it gets higher the more you fail per phase so if you are so unlucky that you reached phase 11 then it goes up another percent or so
Pity 
1.2%
you cleaning viper's thing now? 
no yet, need Sr doll but i got allmats for phase 3
@worn field Ah okay, I will remember that. Thank you. 
What was weird was there were some matches that I had, where Blanc was on p2 and got completely focused down by the opponent’s team. Found out later that she actually had a pretty high CS line on her
I didn’t know if it had any influence on Blanc getting targeted, but since it had both charge speed and charge damage, I changed it to give attributes more helpful to Blanc.
now it shows 2.2% on phase 11
What i miss?
phase 10 was 1.2 with blue kits.. so rare
i think mine was phase 11 
I threw my 2 reds, 3-4 purples on it... nothing. Then my last blue nailed it 
My Laplace stuck on SR Phase 6

Been using blue kits on Rosanna’s R doll, and the other 2 types on Laplace
I highly anticipate the day when I can lazor an opponent sp arena team so hard
waiting for SR for free mats
Next week, right?

i think in 2 weeks
which reminds me i put my lap+ in my sanis team earlier, noise/noah/sanis/rapunz/lap+ instead of SR anis , maybe my whale boi used scar to take down my sanis but instead got a boda but with lazors

imagine
He had The LaPlus Incident

i once experienced Bunny Soda incident
same, but irl.. someone asked me for money and never came back 

those fluffy cheeks 
is this good to go? @worn field
Np 👍
S.Anis against Scarlet 
She's gonna get slaughtered
Doesn’t Bay eat up SBS?
nope
Oh… I keep forgetting who Bay eats up
<redacted>
calculate deficit before attacking,
do not proceed if penalty
wait for zixk's input also since he's here idk if this is OK
i am COMPLETELY wasted
wait
Ah okay SBS kills Bay, right? Her and Emi.
I checked previous notes
But like you said, opponent seemingly wasting her by putting Blanc in
redacted my earlier msg, prefer zixk to have a look
i just realised the rosanna team is 2.5rl (2.1rl most likely with quantum trickery)
Quantum trickery with Rosanna sounds… fun 
sbs shreds bay 
idk if t1 will feed
scarlet/blanc/rh/centi/jackal
enough lmao
but i feel like i would
blanc/emi/rh/biscuit/centi
-
SGs to hopefully kill their blanc?
A’ight gonna sleep. T’was a long day today
Imma dream about lazoring sp bullies’ teams with LaPlus
Give them incidents to remember me by

nope, bay buys some time against sbs
What sanis comps does the following lose to
Noah/biscuit/sanis/emi/rh?
Depends, nothing is definite coz SAnis vs SAnis differs depending on the investment..
indom sanis is probably your best option
you want to whack this guy ?
or you're using this as your DEF and u're curious what s.anis comp enemy can use to whack u?
No, i use the comp mostly for offense against sanis, I just wanted to know when I shouldn’t use it.

Maybe a 2 taunter with Noah Tia may win, but it depends if you could kill their SAnis first before she could kill your taunters and SAnis
most ppl don't have built taunters, so shouldn't be a big problem
My emi and rh act as taunter so they enemy sanis doesn’t have a shot most time
noah tia with occasional moran is what you'll see at best
Yh double taunter biscuit and blanc indom
Thanks for the advice
It all comes down to atk tuning usually. Fighting an SAnis team wherein she isn't the one with highest atk is a pain 
lol, I noticed haha
One where Noise and Biscuit is the one with the highest attack
I don’t want my sanis to have more attack even in burst than my attackers
Noise Noah Biscuit SAnis Rapu
atk order from highest to lowest
Biscuit > Noise > SAnis > Rapu > Noah is a huge pain to fight using SAnis vs SAnis
thats why I made my Nero team so I should just tank them during the first full burst and let the actual B3 offensive burst on second full burst 
If the game give me tetra head, it’d be easier to tune 
Here is an example I used double taunter, my SAnis is 4 atk OL.. but I had a hard time just killing a Biscuit 
No CP gap btw, while I tried with my Nero team against the same opponent, she just killed SAnis like she's just napping in the park 
Damn, That first videos crazy, that’s why I don’t like running unbuffed sanis on offense 
Nero also a somewhat buffer. Gives damage taken debuff 
I don't think I can get my noise and biscuit to higher base atk than sanis

Just roll more atk lines, ez

Ironically if it did Emilia nuke here, it probably would have worked lol. Swap SAnis with Liter/RH
That was a very old vid where that enemy team was still a 4 RL one. And my Emi isn't still built back then 
before dolls?
Yeah before dolls

Lemme check
06/17 yeah its pre doll. Doll was 07/04 iirc
Its prolly even before CP update one 
From what i see they were also running quantum, there could be even more tankiness
except rapu sanis
All PvP moving forward should assume lvl 0 SR dolls equipped on all units (eventually). That's 10% damage reduction, which translates to 111% eHP. Meaning you will need to deal 11% more damage than previously to kill your opponents.
If you combine lvl 15 SR doll and lvl 7 Tempering cube, that's 26.69% damage reduction, which becomes 136.4% eHP. You need to deal 36.4% more damage than previously to kill your opponent.
This has a huge impact in PvP balance in that suddenly the "requirement to kill" has jumped up a lot. Teams that previously could get away with no buffers now need one. Teams that previously were able to AoE wipe with just 1 buffer now needs 2. Under-invested B3 attackers will need their bursts bumped up from 4 to 7 or 7 to 10. Setups like BSoda AoE nuke will so no longer be viable due to too low damage. In other words, PvP specific investments is gonna become more important moving forward.
time to use bay/scarlet(? or go with ein
we need to see the changes to game modes, but you can have like+5 units with SR15 if you are a bit lucky, more if you buy the packs
if you can fkin afford the packs then I let you take the win 
The previous guidance for "how much damage do I need to do to safely 1 shot the enemy team" used to be 2500-3000%. Now with dolls and Tempering, it's now 3000-4000%. This is where the math becomes more important, and the math will show you that currently no unit except double buffed Scarlet will be able to achieve this range. What this means is that moving forward, you will need to include a secondary DPS source (e.g. SSakura, Scalter, Emilia, Laplace, etc) in your teams OR use continual DPS type units (e.g. SAnis, Ein) if you want to guarantee sufficient damage to win.


I've done 4 level ups in the last 24 hours
#-Not a flex, but a register
Oh, it no longer works
oh well, it still works as a sidenote
It'll happen much faster than you'd expect. Every solo raid season is 1 selector plus 3 random SR dolls. So a full team of lvl 0 SR dolls is not at all unreasonable. You also don't even need to put dolls on all units, just attackers and optionally supports
Am I crazy for taking doll to r15 then sr +5 for units like blanc
she needs the dr I feel like so it’ll be worth it to get more health and dr stats
Nah it's worth
praying that the manu composter will let me finally 4OL my scarlet
if you just wanna stop a unit at SR, you don't need to bother getting +15R
just give them SR doll, the upgrade from 0 to 5 SR isn't that big, unless for units you want to be able to facetank (blanc is one of them)
i would say that the priority for SR puppets is dps-p1-taunt/healer and utility units
dolls will be huge for ppl running the noah noise biscuit sanis teams
since if they can live through a double buff scar nuke, that's a very strong defense that most ppl won't know how to beat
pvp units first, the pve ones can wait a bit longer


maybe a jackal with sr puppet is good if you lower the damage in the link
better use puppet in the other units
if jackal is the one to receive the direct hit, then it should work
idk about other situations
is like distributed damage
my jackal is always in P5
against SG is fine
Main reason I put doll on jackal is for blanc comps, my health diff was pretty wide a while ago
but at this point in the game, you have better options
SR15 everyone
hmm I need to roll ele onto biscuit and noise at some point, to kill p2 emi
my biscuit and rapunzel got ele
maybe that works in some way
I killed a sanis pre burst once and lost to emi nuke lol
if someone attacks you with water units
which at this point is emi, really few people might use viper in SP
SGrosanna needed elemental damage in sugar and noir
when you remove jackal from rosanna you are already nerfing her
target jackal p5 or scarlet p1 or units that you normally use with scarlets

Technically people want viper to die, or I use her as a target in p2 so biscuit is safe in p3,4,5
my viper+ will shine
team?

Noah/viper/biscuit/sanis/rh

now, noah proc biscuit S2 before the burst chain?
Depends if they have emi or laplace usually, if 3 rl then maybe, 2rl may be safe
But I haven’t figured out the biscuit s2 timing, it’s possible for sbs to win against sanis team depending on investments and s2 proc
if noah proc biscuit S2 before the chain, she can get the 2nd proc in time with biscuit alive (if p2) or you lose viper
Yh, Viper’s there since she’s clip sg that doesn’t mess up the burst chain, I think I tried nihilister in calc but not enough gen for 3 rl
sbs against taunt/biscuit S2? that matchup depends on biscuit S2lv if you don't have another hp source
remember that you need top drop the hp to 50% again
Yh, that could’ve been an issue, it was a long time ago
@blissful willow Just noticed, the Prydwen dolls page doesn't include the damage reduction percentages but Nikke.gg does. Fix pl0x 
Nah,i'd use xlud 
what was the % for lv10sr?
do not kow anymore, my doll is phase 11
og ludmilla is a water unit, and some double taunt teams use her
team nero
i might try pepega moran lud setup with s.anis
i need bay in my main account
So that moran would actually lifesteal with s.anis buff
xD
Gimme a bit I'll add
It's just the minimum and max value, right?
in xmica we thrust
Ideally per level. 0-4, 5-9, 10-14, 15
10 12 14 17 if I recall
For damage reduction percentages
On the next update yeah
the 3% jump is at +10 o +15?
I'll try to get all the data added
You can use https://nikke.gg/collection-item-guide-and-overview/ as reference 
Just please don't put it in a jpg chart
That's ultimate laziness
14% at+10
i hope to get ein, or at least zwei/bay with the collab pulls
I have lorax's sheet, I'll try to put it in tabulated form ig
Yo is bay good I js got her
For PVP
Too much cs shenanigans, I’ll leave it lol

answered this in other channel already
I mean in pvp
Bay is a Nikke (Character) in Goddess of Victory: Nikke. Ark's Cheerleading Squad — Captain of Rewind.
Suffers from scopophobia, but becomes very enthusiastic when it comes to cheering someone on.
9 in PvP nice
that answer i gave u relates entirely to pvp , because you do not use bay in pve period
What answer
You said she has delicious thighs
that bit about "delicious thighs, horrific kit" relates to zwei
Oh is she bad
How long I gotta make comps expecting whiffs

you can just not use RLs and there'll be less whiffs
Main burst gen and tech for me is emi, noah, jackal 

reset*
wow... no reroll..
2rocks 
for what
to spend some gems
as if there are not enough ways to spend gems in this game ..
nesso did not have a chance to steal your rocks
Bricked sanis
yes i must type fast 
she is not
She’s getting targetted now
ah
Oh and, 3 rocks


now protect your S.Anios ad you are done
thats why you only get one copy of s.anis and MLB all your other supporters 😂
oooh TRAIN

mine with 2 ATK lines and mlb
1rock, its fine
blame nesso
nah its fine, 1 is enough
phase 15?
no
2rocks

Centi has cs 
ok now time to prep for next SR
i was thinking about building rosanna, but nah dont think thats gonna happen anymore
since next SR is fire-weak and i have 3 units to build

Noise/noah/centi/sbs/jackal.
Does cs on sbs and centi do anything?
SR is monthly, Rosanna is eternal
just try, who knows

record and let us know
I’ll send it later, I use that comp in sp mostly 
my c1 secure
my 1% not secure
my frame from you is secure
did you get 1% last SR?

collab units are 2 attacker 1 supporter right?
would have gotten it, i did one tryhard run... then after i finished... found out it was mock
but that score would have got it
ff

it was a one time trick
meh its ok, i know i would have gotten it, so its fine
nah a lot of weird trick last SR

at the end i did not do the 5 runs
did 2 and called it a day
pvp teams can not carry that much yet
Pinnegrim time 
like scarlet destroying the parts with 1 hit?
this was one
R 
but also a lot of weird delay tricks to keep boss from refreshing 4 stack of DEF buff
i did biscuit pre-shot
and blanc burst with guillotine, but i got more damage with guillo in other comp
pilgrim or ff?
pinnegrim

Anyone got some good sp defense comps to use/build towards?
post your box sorted by power
like what? bsoda/blanc?
I have pretty much everyone pvp related built up to the max, just looking for some general comps rn
Wait, have i seen you in one of my brackets before your name looks familiar
lol oh we're in the same union. Hi Eraser
hi
Guys, I can't beat Stormbringer 
Oo ok that explains that lmfao

how union mates does not know each other

i'm fairly new to that union and we dont really talk in the logs tbh
but in discord
We have a discord?
this is the first time we've found each other here...
No allies. Only rivals.
bring out the snipper rifles
i didn't know the igns of the people in my union until they talked to me in discord
whale and try again

Oh no, I need to use Red Hood burst but I need her for burst 1 rotations 
@meager kiln you got an invested rosanna?
Me, the co leader of the union completely confused if we have a discord or not lmao
Nah no invested rosanna or moran yet
2RL rosanna and pray
But thats abt it, everyone else is OL5 n near 10/10/10 except for some
or a sac team with drake in p2
nani dafuq

cryzen doesnt seem to be super active either lmao
no points
Yeah i think i’m just here to occasionally clear out ppl who dont log in for like idk a month, no clue even what the purge rate should be lmfao
you're his janitor lmfao
Power is power i get a fancy title
true enough
maybe i should start a new account in sea
are you not in sea?
NA
senpai?
wut?
New characters are coming, so something in the roster needs to be improved. Both the regular and special arena
no rosanna at all or just not invested? I think we have similar account ages and units
Had to focus on tribe towers lately, so investment is all there
Woulda maxed moran and rosanna by now otherwise
Pvp important but cant lose the fancy #1 frame
your t3 looking kinda submissive and beatable
Will delete in a sec since ppl in my bracket are here, wish they’d form an alliance or something though
Yeah lmfao it’s 100% a weak spot
i didn’t like na in the end too many malders & sp campers so kick it out it’s completely dead now 
worse than your server?
arent you in japan?...
1 rock 
Tomorrow, is it a good idea to hold off on doing interception until after update?
Hmmmm…
why wait?
Can anybody help me with some new SP Arena comps?
New interception modes
reset time
yeah lots of new stuff
just do it today
I did mine today
But tomorrow is a different story
mmmm yeah, wait for others to lose their mats first
Usually maintenance for me in my time zone is something like 11am to 6pm
is not always the same time in nikke
May be different this time because of how significantly big this update is
update will start 5h before reset abnd will finish 2 2h after reset
at least 7 different times to start the maintenance

So it would be from midnight my time to 5pm my time
ah i didnt read the updates yet tbh
came to the conclusion that it’s worse than global after having side accs here & there, so only glb side acc will be alive from now on 
yes
Basically, I wouldn’t even get to play interception, then
Problem solved 
global is a joke(?

how many hours?
Global 
Oops I dropped my pencil

i picked it up for you , here
Thanks


halp plz for sp defense
oh he broke it again, but didn't attack a 2nd time
saving attack for snipe time

he never did such a thing though, and i've known him since my very first bracket prior to reshuffle mechanic
but the reshuffle in sp was every season

? what you mean? I've known him since chainsaw man i think
he used to be #1 , his ego probably hurting
whale with pvp knowledge is his opponent now

the reshuffle was after every season (2weeks) then 1 month(1st change) and now 3months (2nd change)
their packages are ridiculously priced tbh
oh did it? I didn't noticed back then, he was always around if not sp he's in rookie, our bracket swaps around just 2 groups i think
waw
Is this good for Rapunzel?
4 ele damage lines at a pretty high rate
No wonder her cp jumped so high
Raidpunzel 
Biscuit p2 dead 
and viper?
p2 will die unless you have a unit that can tank, a healer or if the enemy team doesn't have damage/RL units
yh, main thing is not dying before burst to maintain stable burst gen
i wonder if we can get rocks from simulation +25
3SSRs and 1 SR with their own skins and Leona gets a new skin. My stash is cooked
. Didnt see anything about new interception, am i blind?
I cannot express how satisfying it is to win using Ein DoT + Blanc indom. Makes my heart pound every time
Great Stall (Noah/Biscuit) counter
i feel like 2 whales are avoiding me now, was i THAT annoying
maybe it’s temporarily but still 
Also, yes, 3 wins and yes, he keeps going with spending gems
Spent 300 today, 600 total
like they’re not jumping at me from 9 & 8 anymore
nail biter
I can't use Blanc Indom anymore 
yeah my main is, just sniffing out how it’s like on other servers via side accs 
You too? 
here i am with just the 1 account lol i would be spending too much time with a 2nd
actually is that because of the changes they made to stormbringer?
Arena reshuffle is next week I guess
Two weeks*
No, it’s because game optimization is notoriously poor with iPhone and my game crashes often because of overheating and/or technical issues
pls finally isekai me to another bracket
do a munch and throw it in the freezer 
truck-kun coming thru
welcome to SEA server 
I just lost my second attempt, so it may take a while
stoopid game

People say doing that can damage your iPhone due to condensation
But I would totally do it if it meant I could play without crashing
My iPhone is fully covered under plan anyway 
oh yeah i would never actually reco that haha
didnt you lappy+? ez
Missilis tower? Ein tower 
You can use mold 
My current mold garden
I don’t have Ein

Noah 
Soon 
This is for tomorrow, when I can wishlist Ein
Good luck, I like her kit a lot, does a lot of damage and my ols were pretty nice for the few rocks I spent. 
Molds first 
I can break open this Pilgrim mold if u want
Prolly will be SR tho
I was gonna wait until I hit 500 molds for the SR and SSR
U want Berlota?

Hol on a sec
I will bust out this Pilgrim mold
Just for you @whole shell
JUST… for YOU
brb


I've done that before, I don't want to repeat it on purple molds honestly

I would rather make a grand spectacle of my failures as a mold farmer than a small spectacle
It makes for good content for this here #pvp-arena channel
hi, i just got noah and i was wondering if i should change my teams after leveling
i currently run:
moran/pepper/sanis/biscuit/centi
scarlet/poli/anis/noir/jackal
blanc/emilia/redhood/drake/sugar
here's my current roster as well, thanks!

Replace Moran
Profit
great, thought so too, thanks!
Can you give 3 meta compositions for pvp?
Hola amigos

sorry, i fell asleep and just noticed this. did @worn field say anything? wasted advice is better than no advice xD
try after maintenance, but make sure that is the first thing you use
Too late 
smh all our pilgrim molds flopped
first mine then munch’s now yours
We all know molds are shams
11/12*
I heard these molds are horrific compared to other gacha games
I believe there are some in pins
Now I don't want to use mine
.... Oh right, I can't, haven't beat Storm Bringer
For example?
I forgot the name of the game but I remember someone here talked about similar molds from another game
Can you provide a screenshot of the 3rd squad for the SP Arena?
It was a while back tho
I suggest checking Modernia's section @grand spruce
Does arena reshuffle mean new people come in your arena? It was included in game news..
AHA
It ain't belorta but still
Close enough with Mica being on the same squad
In my case, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn’t do too much.
The last reshuffle added about 10 people who were much higher in cp compared to my previous group. I can’t even get to Challenger 9 without getting knocked down by someone who cp gaps me by a ton.
The group before that, I could have possibly shot for Challenger 5 and higher
My first reshuffle, almost no change to the group I was in
possible to cook a way to defeat this?
my leveled nikkes
his t1 and t3 are probably the only ones I wanna hit
t2 will delete me 
Hi guys can you help me build team for sp Arena. Thanks
Si
Skill issues
I can not really help, but will try. I think zixk can handle this better
That level gap is real tho 
yea but his cp isn't as big as I thought it'd be at that level
He definitely got whaling power tho with all those core max units
For team 1 you need to block Scarlet, so you need to set up a fast burst gen speed similar to the opponent and can block their burst 3 after you activated your burst 2
- Noah, Biscuit, Battery (Preferably Burst 2/3) Burst 1, AoE Burst 3 unit (looking in this case it’d be Scarlet as well since they can’t block nor have Biscuit).
On team 2 they have no source to block, so you can use in here you choice of a Blanc Indom support or not, but you can nuke them as well
- Any strong burst cycle since they’re using Ein
Team 3 is the general Anis stall comp with Biscuit.
- countering this with Anis works as well, and depending on their OLs you can most definitely use Blanc indom, or even Biscuit heal during Anis Burst.
Finally someone beat my comp... with breaking 160 wall lmao
kinda wanna avoid t2, almost 1m cp, deficit would be 
almost like fighting hard mode
I mean, you’re legit fighting someone over 3 sync cycles over you.
So there is no compromise

let me see what I can prep
I just vaccinated ol’ Biscuit
(removed the cs line she got when OLing her gear)
Mine got defense lines 
Lucky
… dog
Really?


I dunno what’s actually good for Biscuit in pvp, tbh
cp 
But I just don’t want to mess with cs lines when it comes to support/defend units
penalty was at below 84.6% right?
that should be fine 
I'd need at least 746.6k cp to avoid cp penalty
wait yea for alice one
@keen vapor I have a Rapunzel cs line I want to remove, but I have a godlike ele damage line on that gear so I can either live with it or spend 3 rocks to attempt to remove it (locking ele dmg line)
keep it
not sure where I can compromise mmm
Yeah I think it’s best as well
you're not gonna be using rapunzel to facetank or worry much about rapunzel sustain, not gonna matter
I’m also gonna keep Rapu on p4 or p5, if that matters
you're not gonna keep her there if it means she takes SG shots, so she'll still never get directly targeted
I heard p1-p3 placements is when cs line funkiness happens
Yeah, I’ll make sure if a sg is present, put someone else that can tank the damage or feed off it like Jackal
Meanwhile my Rapu
She heals fast 
-# Not really
Man this defense didn't work either 

Unbelievable
I hope they fix the cs sharing bug or whatever it is, because it’s so counter to instinct (cs lines on rl/sr should be sought after)
for team 1 you could try bur before check cp:
Noah-Emilia-Red hood-Centi-Jackal
skip team 2: put 1 unit in P5
team 3: Noise-Blanc-SBS-Biscuit-Laplace+
This was my defense from before btw
Which worked for a bit
well that's basically the same thing
they just used the exact same team against new defense
t3 cp is still pepega
damn 
no worries, someone will cook you new teams
mmmmaybe? but think I won't get to burst lmao
what else has failed against them
need to figure out what they know how to counter
or what's their defense comp
current suggestion would be:
Scarlet/Lappy/Xanne/Rosanna/Jackal (assuming scarlet is higher atk than lappy)
Noah/Biscuit/Emilia/RH/Tia
Blanc/Bscar/Rapunzel/Centi/A2
I get triple win here
is that a max invest rosanna
maybe? perhaps? possibly? 
hmm, eh give my suggestion a try, see if it stumps them at all
k
at this point you just gotta try out different comps to figure out what they can and can't counter
keep track of teams he's beaten
I think you gave me one With Ein before and he beat it first try
whats your Ssakura investment?
got bay?
4/7/7
Nope
how invested is your rosanna
oh btw scarlet does not have higher attack than lappy, however does her skill 1 attack increase kick in for what you're worried about?
no I'm worried about link, does scarlet have higher atk than rosanna
Record the match for science 
is a2 higher atk than rosanna
no
what about noir vs rosanna
ok you should try a sac setup, they might be using 2RL emilia to counter your scar jack
No idea what that set up looks like 
post your box sorted by B2
Don't ask how biscuit is that high on cp
the overload lines are just like, welp, here you go
how much hp is anis compared to like centi
have you tried Noah/Noise/Biscuit/Sanis/Rapunzel before in that order (biscuit and sanis positions can be swapped)
was it beaten before by this guy
Hmm, it might have been the other guy who gave up on attacking me because I out CP him now
also, your lappy is treasured right?
yes
what invest is your emilia
Blanc/Emilia/Maxwell/Rapunzel/Centi
Noah/Biscuit/Sanis/RH/Laplace
Anis/Scarlet/Xanne/Rosanna/Jackal
hopefully the team cps aren't too low
do your have invested maxwell btw (S1)
My laplace currently is double overload, head and gloves. Working on chest and boots
10/4/10
the scarlet team is at 561,971
that should be barely ok
I wonder if I have a blue doll for anis
your rosanna s2 is high invest I hope
7/7/10
you want anis to die early
oh, should I bother with burstgen cube on her?
nah
Or any cube
try to increase her cp without increasing her bulk too much
4th burst gen cube on lap or noah
lap
k
actually if you have a really high lvl cube slot spare
put that on laplace, and give quantum to noah


I did state to put Biscuit with T1 against that scarlet
Otherwise she’ll melt
I swear he watches his defense like a hawk so probably will attack me in about 10 minutes
pvp sweat
I think he might be in here
decent chance there's no defense you can cook up that can deter him
He swapped his defense around
Same teams just swapped em
triple win
and now we wait



you're not gonna be able to beat T3
you don't have the units for it
how much cp is Scarlet/Naga/RH/Centi/Jackal
96491
what if you replace centi with tia
103457
well this is a bit of a problem
any gears you can swap around or something to boost jackal CP? anything that's reversible
higher lvl cubes etc
trying to find a team that puts you within range of T1
you can try Scarlet/Naga/RH/Centi/Jackal against T3, but you might not be able to win it, but unless you can increase jackal cp somehow, that's prob your best option, and ignore T1
Tia/Noah/Sanis/Liter/Laplace for T2
alright ill try doing that
Wow… I’m checking out some recent vids I recorded and noticing my Blanc got targeted a lot
I had Scar/Blanc/Rosie/SBS/Jackal. 4 of 5 opp members focused on Blanc (Scar/Ein/Liter/Tia). Naga (p1) did not. Blanc died in 4 seconds.
Later that day, checked Blanc lines… she had a cs line. Removed it.
Afterwards, I had a Scar/S.Anis/Rosie/Blanc/Jackal setup
Opponent Noir (p1) and S.Anis (p2) focused on Blanc, Privaty/Blanc/Noise (p3-p5) focused on Scarlet. Blanc helped Rosie and Jackal feed (splash damage) and Rosie did B1 at about 3rl.
I don’t know if removing the cs line from Blanc worked or not, but definitely putting her in p4 helps when I see sg units on opp team
I’ll check
also, did they target blanc from the start, or only after their first shots already landed
Only 1 ammo line at 27.84%
I will check both vids again to see if target was switched
t1 is whatever, even without cp penalty, the stats difference is too nuts for t3
so my best bet would probably be t2 since no heals, but makima there is basically gg
@coarse lake In 1st match the only enemy unit not trained on Blanc in the beginning was Liter (was shooting SBS at p4 briefly before swinging to Blanc at p2)
In 2nd match Noir was on Jackal (p5) for 2 shots but slightly shifted towards Blanc after that. S.Anis was on Blanc the whole time.

what were your teams in the fight right before it, and who was the last one alive on your team in said fight (if you lost it)
yes
1st game I put Trony on p1 on match 1, the next match was with Blanc
2nd match was Blanc’s team for 1st match
if you're gonna attack again and need a new def, replace Sanis with Bscar for now, and probably ask zixk for an unconventional cook

Wait…
Do you think it’s because I should have put Trony at p5 instead of p1 for the first game?
I'm guessing its because I don't own bay that this is happening to me 
That's what I thought and now not even Blanc teams work
Life is suffering 
p1 skip doesn't work anymore, need to do p5 skip
^
eh bay wouldn't change much tbh
@coarse lake I think you helped me find the answer
Thank you… I am always grateful for your help
If you put a unit on p1, next round the enemy team targets P2
Unit on p2, next round p3 is targeted
So on and so forth
So I'm guessing since p5 is the end they wrap back around to targetting p1
I didn’t know that 
oh? didn't know that was the reasoning
that would explain why it's p5 skip now, didn't know the reason behind that
Know whats weird? I had this defense, he started beating it, I switched to some others and then came back to this and he started losing against it and then took him like 4 days to start winning against it again
Both of you are geniuses
and zixk too
he forgot what he used to beat it in the past 
I've had this happen before a ton to my mpriv nuke attack team
This isn't working on me
When I did P5 skip in the next round it did target that position, fortunately, it was Anis
I'd skip by putting a unit on p1, next round mpriv gets reamed
Bcuz you’re special

And u don’t open boxes
So the gods hate u
Oh this is the updated Screen shot, laplace used to be sbs, never actually won with this team with lap there
Thought lap might help when he started beating it but nope
IM OPENING THEM
vids or it didn’t happen
Send vids
I don't have wifi, I only get 6 GB of mobile data 
I’m so
rn
We can wait but not for too long
@umbral crown needs to witness this as well
my dataaaaaa
I'M BROKE I CAN'T RECHARGE SO MUCH
I'll become hobo 

How are people doing with defending against pre-maint snipes
my bracket doesn't do them anymore 
Soon™
do no think so, the only boi who could do it attacks at 1:30 am and for that he needs to beat first C3 who is paying more attention to not get snipped
this morning C3 avoided C5 try to beat by reacting fast taking his spot

There won't be vids
this is before
and after?
They're won't be vids

Hard refresh every second to see if you get dropped
What's sleep? Never heard of it
#game-news message alright who's whaling?
I lost Nitro privileges 
is that why your name color is blue now?
Yes 
Speak of the devil…
I had to take care of some business just now
insert cocoa credit card meme
i see 248
No more ":deadge:" anymore :deadge:
not me, imo that's the worst gacha skin so far

I meant the CP
oh
true enough but EVA fans
Its not whale if it's worth
That's not Emilia gacha
emilia gacha is better
quiet you, you'll spend 20 and get it
i was kinda like that, if i whale the current gacha i would be without nitro for a week so skip
How
That doesn't sounds serious....
I can become hobo
I need job
just the passes skins, the gacha one is a skip, it just have some yellow in front. not really different from her OG skin
…
Already expecting my luck yo not be that great
it has appeal if you like maids a lot
and it's quite different from default
250 CP!
true
echo, don't tell me you're just stopping at 1 lvl
he is
I WAS NEVER ABLE TO USE THEM

you never talked with the bird
what if it jiggles?

that would change everything
what if SU upgrades and makes the suits like Alice's?
I've been doing lots of level ups the last two days :pepeh: I was 242 the last week
accessing the stash?
I DON'T KNOW HIM :WHY.WHHYY:
if it lets you see the buttcrack from the back, then it's ok
Talk with the bird, Echo
but still only enough to be pass-worth, still not worth 60 bucks
you never talk in omnicord
the pass looks better
YOU NEVER TOLD THAT

Apparently the yellow on that suit is supposed to be transparent and shows her cake
6 levels aren't enough for you? :pepeh: that's 60k core dust

if thats the case i wil buy it

like censoring
now it makes sense
go get 261 boost
that way the bois with 285 the gap would be close and your progress shoud be better
Too expensive :why, whyyy:
:why snapped:










