pvp-arena

[velvet sky]

if i was lvl 381 sure

[umbral crown]

go get those 50+ leves

[velvet sky]

no

[lunar dirge]

cuz if a person way below you,you might disappear and he must attack win against someone else to see you again

[umbral crown]

[pastel narwhal]

how much is kidney nowadays

[umbral crown]

not much

[velvet sky]

bruh no I’m not selling my kidney for a game

nor am i gonna whale with those unreasonable prices

even if i got to 381 whales would still beat me after some attempts bc we would be at the same lvl to be completely unbeatable I’d have to become that monya person with 585 sync

[lunar dirge]

weak,my session today

[trail inlet]

christ

how many gems spent lol

[lunar dirge]

500

[pastel narwhal]

just open your echos stash

[velvet sky]

i don’t have any

[glad meteor]

Is there any way I lose?

[coarse lake]

if rosanna is super built, you could lose

[velvet sky]

if ros kills your rh

[coarse lake]

but they feed you and you don't feed them, so prob fine

[lunar dirge]

how they feed them,they have rosanna

[glad meteor]

[coarse lake]

a few shots will still be jackal feed

[trail inlet]

shotgun on def attacks p5

and attack shotgun attacks p1 no?

[coarse lake]

might not be enough for you to noah block their rosanna, so your dps could still get sniped

[lunar dirge]

link goes to s.anis and rh(p3-p5),rl target p1 and p2,so meh

[glad meteor]

I’m assuming Noah is jackal linked over sanis, don’t know if it’s changed

[coarse lake]

if their noah is linked, then their rosa is weak af

[lunar dirge]

jackal links 2 highest atk units

[coarse lake]

either you don't feed them or their rosa is too weak to do anything

[glad meteor]

Their noah has dolls with attack ols I think

[coarse lake]

just hope your units are beefy enough ig

[trail inlet]

tldr if enemy rosanna invested you lose, if she doesnt 1 shot you win :p

[glad meteor]

i might change it up then

[trail inlet]

maybe noise is a good pick

for rosanna nuke i think

[glad meteor]

I could bsoda nuke lol, but I don’t rely on nukes too much, still need more invest

[coarse lake]

glad someone is trying out the sanis + rosa setup though has potential

[glad meteor]

Maybe, but it’d need to target skip to sanis, which could be likely if I position her in p5

[glad meteor]

He uses rosanna in every comp I think, emi too op

[coarse lake]

do you know how strong their rosa is

[lunar dirge]

just make rosa have 70% ele

[coarse lake]

tbh just go for it , an alternative is swapping jackal for centi

[pastel narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/giorno-deku-gif-21889038

[coarse lake]

the few shots they do before unlink will weaken your rh and sanis, making it easier for them to get 1 tapped

centi prevents that

[umbral crown]

its the same as the pic or need another variant

[coarse lake]

similar, without jackal

[umbral crown]

i can try it after reset since my S.Anis has more investment now

[coarse lake]

basically just fitting a rosa into a noah biscuit sanis comp so that the standard counters do not work

[umbral crown]

instead jackal... centi maybe

[pastel narwhal]

since my rosa is having trouble taking down whales with dolls, sanis might work as the double tapper

[coarse lake]

yeah centi would be a better option

[umbral crown]

nice

[rich quail]

How much investment?

[umbral crown]

2 ATK likes 1 ele and some hit rate

[coarse lake]

sanis fires her first proj at about 2.5rl, so it would help yes

but it's more of a def team idea, on atk it could work too

[rich quail]

Very solid

[pastel narwhal]

yes, prob is it's unbuffed anis, is that enough tho

[coarse lake]

if your rosa is strong enough to 1 tap any attacker, it'll work

if not, then it's a fairly weak comp

[glad meteor]

Couple days ago

[coarse lake]

weak rosa

how much hp is your sanis vs your rh

[umbral crown]

well mine is

[coarse lake]

rosa crit your rh and rh still lived

[glad meteor]

1.55m sanis
1.77m red hood

[coarse lake]

purple doll on sanis?

[glad meteor]

Nah

[coarse lake]

hmm

[glad meteor]

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

sanis might die

your best bet is the centi variant

and pray sanis lives

noah/biscuit/sanis/rh/centi

so you don't take any chip dmg prior to nuke

[glad meteor]

Thanks, I think I fought this comp before, I’ll check

[queen mango]

any counter?
Dont have noah,bay, clay, makima or moran

[coarse lake]

wait...

you might still lose, you got bigger buff, but you have much lower hp after nuke

maybe the strat is revive emi nuke

[rich quail]

@worthy knoll taught me this lesson yesterday

[coarse lake]

if your sanis team doesn't work, try: Blanc/Emilia/Biscuit/Rapunzel/Crown, hopefully your biscuit and crown have higher atk than rapunzel

[glad meteor]

Different positioning though

[worthy knoll]

Mmh? What are you fighting?

[glad meteor]

Noah/biscuit/sanis/ros/jackal

[worthy knoll]

Linked Ros SAnis?

[glad meteor]

I don’t know, usually it’s ros noah link

[worthy knoll]

Oh Noah

SAnis unlinked.. smart

[coarse lake]

you can also try a 2RL counter

Scarlet/Noah/RH/Centi/Jackal

[glad meteor]

I have no scar, that’s why I use stupid comps like bsoda nuke lol

[coarse lake]

slap quantums on noah/centi/jackal, should get enough feed before disconnect, although idk if scarlet will live it

[worthy knoll]

Though I think I saw this before.. mmh

[coarse lake]

enemy rosa isn't strong enough to 1 tap sanis and rh most likely, but the dmg taken might still make them lose the sanis fight, even with rh buff

[glad meteor]

If my ros had more attack ols could probably ros nuke first

[coarse lake]

bsoda instead of scar could work

idk if the nuke will be strong enough, need to kill sanis

and she'll be at full hp bc no s2 counters

[worthy knoll]

Try Noise Biscuit SAnis Rosanna Jackal

[glad meteor]

I got 2 t11 ele + 1 6.18 attack, burst is… 5 though

[coarse lake]

you could also just try an indom sanis

they don't have that much splash, might be ok

[glad meteor]

The ros nuke will give it to rh I think

[coarse lake]

won't need rh

Blanc/Sanis/Pepper/Biscuit/Centi?

splash might kill sanis

Blanc/Jackal/Sanis/Biscuit/Centi could work (assuming biscuit is linked and higher hp than sanis), but your sanis needs to kill their entire team before full burst ends

[glad meteor]

I could try this, ros hits blanc/jackal?

[coarse lake]

sanis and likely centi due to p5 bug

actually... hmm

no attacker, so it might be 2 highest atk

oh wait

[glad meteor]

Oh, I guess the list I have is

Bsoda/noah/emi/(ros/rh)/jackal
Noise/biscuit/sanis/ros/jackal
Noah/biscuit/sanis/rh/centi

[coarse lake]

I forgot that sanis isn't an attacker

Noah/Biscuit/Sanis/RH/Centi will be fine assuming p5 bug happens

rh and centi will get hit, sanis untouched, your rh can tank the snipe

[worthy knoll]

It prolly wont

Since Rosanna this time is at P4

[coarse lake]

what does rosanna position change

[worthy knoll]

I'm still at my research stage of testing Rosanna at different postions

But I have an hypotheis her targetting depends on her position

[coarse lake]

did you have a situation where it went for highest atk when only 1 attacker?

[rich quail]

Mister, you know ALL the positions

[worthy knoll]

Nah, at least none when enemy Rosanna was on P3

[coarse lake]

well this is a great way to test

[glad meteor]

If I use emi 21 instead of centi could be 2.5rl but sus with ros

[worthy knoll]

@coarse lake #pvp-arena message

This was enemy Rosanna at P3

[coarse lake]

did you test rosa at diff positions yet though against 1 attacker

[worthy knoll]

Not yet still start later at reset

My next test is at P4

If it changes from the one above with my units the same

[coarse lake]

then let K test for you

[worthy knoll]

It proves that Ros targetting changes depending where she is placed

[coarse lake]

btw how do you read this

targets attacker + p5?

[worthy knoll]

Yeah

Wherever the attacker is placed and P5

[coarse lake]

eh just give that team a shot, even if sanis gets sniped there's still a chance you win it

do record it though

[worthy knoll]

Eon, when we first started this talk of Ros targetting P5, I looked at the vid I found and the vid you shared, it was also Rosanna at P3

[coarse lake]

yeah, so I've never seen a p4 example either

[worthy knoll]

There is on Ely's one, my eureka moment

That I came to that hypothesis

[coarse lake]

[umbral crown]

[worthy knoll]

#pvp-arena message

[coarse lake]

huh

so that's p1 + attacker, unless ely's noise is higher atk than sanis

wait nvm

sanis died right before the snipe

[worthy knoll]

Yeah, P1 attacker

Also the start of.. I thought I am done testing Ros targetting but guess I still need to do 4 more iterations of the same number of tests

[coarse lake]

you can probably omit p1 and p2 testing, since kinda dumb, and can get taunted anyway

[worthy knoll]

True 🤔

[coarse lake]

p5 as well, haven't seen anyone do that

[worthy knoll]

I do.. sometimes

No jackal though

[coarse lake]

[worthy knoll]

Forgot what was my line of thinking back then, i think it was just to use Ros as bg gen and remove link but bursting is also a bonus even if not on conceal

Since no SG P5 was safe even they remove my conceal with the first bullet

Well I now know unlinked Ros is a disaster against P1 Scarlet

Pre doll it was still fine, guess that SR doll did Scarlet some help

[kindred moth]

I don't remember your PVP formula.

[glad meteor]

Tried em instead of centi variant to see how it’d go, bruh, the noah link

[coarse lake]

oh nice, outsped the nuke

[glad meteor]

They Whiffed on rl1

[coarse lake]

wait nvm, you still got nuked

weak af rosa

[glad meteor]

Yeh, my max doll red hood was fine

[coarse lake]

you had target skip though, to sanis

[worthy knoll]

❓❓

Uhh who were you again?

[coarse lake]

prob still fine though, if emi can live that nuke, rh ain't dying either

[worthy knoll]

That Ros can't even kill an Emi

[kindred moth]

I'll give it to someone.

[coarse lake]

their noah linked screwed them over

[kindred moth]

[coarse lake]

their sanis died twice as fast bc both targets were linked

yeah nothing to worry about even if sanis got sniped

definitely need a maxed rosa for sanis rosa comp to work

otherwise it's just weak af, dies to even a regular sanis comp

[glad meteor]

Yh, and rosanna mirror’s can remove concealment so one shot unlikely unless scar s2

[kindred moth]

Yesterday's person, but changed his name

[glad meteor]

🤔

[worthy knoll]

Mmh, were you the guy who kept on insisting that Moran Noah Biscuit SBS RH was the best universal lineup that would work against a lot of teams? 🤔

[glad meteor]

Rng funny

Blocked ros nuke lol

[kindred moth]

Not me

[rich quail]

@worthy knoll I took a risk but I moved Biscuit to p5 (t2) in this instance to keep Noah alive, but I had 2 attackers as back-up

This guy used to torment me a few weeks back, too

[coarse lake]

noah bursted fast enough to take aggro on a snipe

[rich quail]

Did I do okay in this match btw?

[kindred moth]

I'm asking for a calculation formula

[coarse lake]

for what

cp diff? dmg calc?

[kindred moth]

I'll give it to someone else.

[worthy knoll]

Well.. ..uhh.. this is a case where even if Biscuit dies its a win as long Noah bursts

[glad meteor]

Gold

[coarse lake]

p2 target bug

0 CS noah right? no adju?

any CS on biscuit?

[rich quail]

Ah okay
I need to learn when it’s okay for Biscuit to die and when it’s not okay for her to die

The only absolute I know is she can’t die if she is doing b2 for S.Anis lifesteal

[worthy knoll]

Against SBS is one good example where you need Biscuit alive

[rich quail]

None
Noah and Biscuit 0%

Emilia 21%
RH 6%

[coarse lake]

she can't die when you need noah to survive full 10 sec of burst due to enemy staying alive the whole time

yeah then cs isn't the sole cause of target bug, it might not even be a factor tbh

but who knows what the actual cause is at this point

[glad meteor]

Mainly indom fights

[rich quail]

To extend Noah shield time, right?

[worthy knoll]

To extend Noahs life while she is on taunt status

[coarse lake]

well... ig it's still possible for it to be CS, if CS sharing bug happened

maybe someone can framecount your noah's fire rate

[rich quail]

Merry did you just turn gold?
Or did your name color change?

[worthy knoll]

I just realized.. I can't do my 2 RL emi tricks anymore with her at 160

Oh you are right, I got gold role now

[coarse lake]

nah your noah has less CS than their rapunzel, and likely biscuit as well

so most likely no CS share bug, at least nothing major

[worthy knoll]

Its just "the seed"

[rich quail]

Did you see opponent Biscuit get SQUASHED by regular Emi shot?

I replayed in slow mo 10 times 😂

[coarse lake]

[umbral crown]

bully

[rich quail]

HE KEEPS HITTING ME

[coarse lake]

yeah rh has higher cs than noah and biscuit, so no cs share happened at all

[rich quail]

I hit back when you hit me

[coarse lake]

it's probably just freak rng tbh

something you can't do anything about

just gotta try to make teams that are resistant to it

[rich quail]

Oh that’s good
I just know that Noah/Biscuit with uneven cs rates is reportedly risky

I don’t even wanna mess at this point

Just wake me up when SU fixes pvp

[umbral crown]

when september ends i will

[umbral crown]

Here your besto sac

You do not need mast for now

[rich quail]

Wow…
Does Quiry give Rosie stat bonuses?

That was 2rl with sac, right?
I saw Jackal shoot and hit 2 rockets and then Rosie bursted

[pastel narwhal]

sacrificing blind girls

[rich quail]

You could say, “She didn’t know what hit her”

[umbral crown]

nope, just makes her burst faster. thhis even works against S.Anis teams, just make sure the deficit does not hits you hard

[rich quail]

I plan to build Mast slowly then
Just giving her spare gear scraps here and there

[umbral crown]

check this

[rich quail]

I think that’s good then. I could start building up Quiry’s gear for now

So by the time the meme team is near completion, I could prolly start working more on Mast

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

[worthy knoll]

Nah Emi still best sacc

[umbral crown]

whos your dps in your 3rd team besides your S.Anis one

sbs?

[rich quail]

NO
Drake is best sac
Because #pvp-arena made me do it

[worthy knoll]

None

Quiry is my third team

[umbral crown]

oh i see

make ssense

[worthy knoll]

No dps.. maybe Nero I guess?

[umbral crown]

nero for the win

[worthy knoll]

Nero Moran Biscuit Quiry Rapu

[umbral crown]

[worthy knoll]

While SAnis team is a Blanc SAnis one

[umbral crown]

waos

souns intereswting

[worthy knoll]

Come to think of it I haven't used Noah

[umbral crown]

and echo missing her so bad

[rich quail]

I still really like Scarlet sac with Blanc

Because she hits so hard if you don’t kill her

[umbral crown]

[worthy knoll]

My def team still wins even with no Noah

[kindred moth]

[umbral crown]

show echo the way

[rich quail]

Echo is Quiry

he blind

[worthy knoll]

My Quiry is as fast as Emi21

[glad meteor]

[kindred moth]

[worthy knoll]

But.. at least she's not as blind that she whiffs

[umbral crown]

owo

[glad meteor]

I feel like they might “fix” when entering full burst to affect nukes when ca comes around

Ein and bsoda might be testers

[lone sequoia]

but 4 line cs units only whiff against 3good lines or +cs cube

[kindred moth]

Do you have any defense teams to recommend

[umbral crown]

show your nikkes in horizontal mode shorted by power

[worthy knoll]

They got power outage

[lone sequoia]

any team with +30% power is good

[umbral crown]

but you know, wang might want some optimal teams

[velvet sky]

not beating short allegations

[umbral crown]

smols allegations

[rich quail]

Short White

[pastel narwhal]

cook smol white defense

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

Smol White/Nero/Quiry/Cinderella/Mustang

[kindred moth]

I'm entering the game

[lone sequoia]

we need chain debuff, her dmg is low but she can hit 5 units

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

Anyone making ca comps used maxwell for emi/sanis buffer?

[lone sequoia]

filler team, but no with those units

[umbral crown]

well, here maybe 3-5 people trying to make c.a teams for themselves... i have not even started

[kindred moth]

[pastel narwhal]

20 hits also takes too long

[rich quail]

I’m just busy raising my beautiful sacrifice Mast

She’ll be ready in 2026

[umbral crown]

use quiry lv1, ez

[lone sequoia]

imagine when SU release MG scarlet" a unit that stack atk+def every 100-200 hits

[umbral crown]

then we see ET gave mast SR doll+15

[rich quail]

But… but Drake tho

[lone sequoia]

full burst is like 1k damage only

[umbral crown]

SG feeds enemy

[rich quail]

No… no…
I’m not THAT dumb

…

am I?

[lone sequoia]

yuni and get her S2

[rich quail]

[umbral crown]

[kindred moth]

[pastel narwhal]

who else offers buffs at the start that's rl? I only see Yan and Yuni, but it's miniscule

[umbral crown]

[lone sequoia]

sac jackal

[umbral crown]

imagine

[kindred moth]

I just had someone help me put together a team this morning. But it seems worse than before.

[velvet sky]

ppl say asuka seems like an ar
already gave sr ar to moran

[glad meteor]

It’s confirmed

[velvet sky]

welp knowing my curse with dolls might get another one

[lone sequoia]

you can use normal teams or try to understand pvp cores, then you can make teams that work in your sp

[pastel narwhal]

there's sacrificial treasure Frima

[lone sequoia]

try it again... you know

[worthy knoll]

@rich quail a fully build Emi but at 160 sync.. god that CP is still low

#pvp-arena message

[kindred moth]

[rich quail]

um

Lemme check the values of my Emil

I think it’s not too far off

[lone sequoia]

account 510

[velvet sky]

[kindred moth]

[umbral crown]

happened to me

[umbral crown]

wang?

[lone sequoia]

water RL defender with true damage(?

[lone sequoia]

yea

[rich quail]

So does sync level 121 cost a lot of core dust just for that level, then it’s not so expensive afterwards?

I set Mast to 120 and it was only 3,500… but 121 is 4,500 core dust

[pastel narwhal]

what's that language, thai?

[umbral crown]

i had a feeling wang was 500+

[kindred moth]

I want multiple defense teams. Will I be able to change to another team

[worthy knoll]

Wait it was zixk who made your def team and you call it worse than before?

[umbral crown]

i see you have potential to take C1

[lone sequoia]

C1 in range

[umbral crown]

i would

[kindred moth]

cant do it

[umbral crown]

with some gems you coud

[kindred moth]

😭

[rich quail]

I saw that

[lone sequoia]

me too

[umbral crown]

[lone sequoia]

like 3-4 lvs

[rich quail]

@pastel narwhal

[pastel narwhal]

510's must be day1 accounts?

[rich quail]

Ah ok good

[worthy knoll]

I actually open a bit from my stash

[kindred moth]

Usually I live Copy other people's teams and use them.

[rich quail]

Imma steal from Echo then

[lone sequoia]

rosanna need atk lines

[rich quail]

He won’t miss a few (thousand) cd cases

[umbral crown]

whats your rosanna investment?

[worthy knoll]

[kindred moth]

I haven't done much.

[lone sequoia]

poli have more power than doro?

[pastel narwhal]

well, no wonder it's not working

[umbral crown]

she needs high investment, 7-10-10 , 30%+ ATK lines from OL

[pastel narwhal]

rosanna very expennsive

[kindred moth]

🤔

[umbral crown]

and some elemtal damage or critics

[pastel narwhal]

and dolls

[umbral crown]

yes

Sr doll +5 minimum

[lone sequoia]

that is like 5k atk?

[umbral crown]

waos

how many ATK lines you have

[kindred moth]

22%

[lone sequoia]

2 lines?

[kindred moth]

i hvae 2 slot atk

[umbral crown]

no bad, when you have the chance, try to get another one

[rich quail]

That’s not so strange
@lone sequoia My Poli is pretty buff

[kindred moth]

I also do PVE so not a lot.

[umbral crown]

and my rosy is no.1

[pastel narwhal]

^ mine is 20% with sr doll 0, she can only take down emilia these days after doll update , you gonna need more

[umbral crown]

makes sense

[lone sequoia]

doro and poli OL/skills?

[rich quail]

Poli might have more ol

[lone sequoia]

just random OL stats...

[rich quail]

But she 4/4/6

[umbral crown]

and how are your skill investment on rosanna?

[rich quail]

I buffed her because Poli is in one of my def teams

[lone sequoia]

show alice OL, you can clear that with RHb1

[umbral crown]

[kindred moth]

Now I'm making Alice add OL.

[lone sequoia]

same stage, but low cp, i don't wanna hunt crits against the boss

[kindred moth]

i cant clear it that boss junping 5 time

[lone sequoia]

if you full burst at the start he will jump 4-5

[umbral crown]

i think so

[lone sequoia]

just wait 1-2sec and burst him, alice p5 have a clear path when the boss go to left; 2nd dps p4

[lone sequoia]

+40k more than me

[kindred moth]

I didn't play very well.

[rich quail]

waw
4am
I sleep

[lone sequoia]

good... morning (?

[pastel narwhal]

but you gonna get sniped

you don't need sleep

[rich quail]

But 1 hour til reset ono

[pastel narwhal]

who needs our beauty

[kindred moth]

my time 2 am

[kindred moth]

lol

[rich quail]

Have fun see you in an hour if I wake up

[kindred moth]

i like bigger

[rich quail]

Bless us with rocks

[kindred moth]

like tia

[pastel narwhal]

sleeping = bigger bobba?

[rich quail]

…

maybe

[kindred moth]

[lone sequoia]

no, just eat chicken

[velvet sky]

kfc chicken

[kindred moth]

Going to the bathroom in a dream ..

[rich quail]

If you don’t get enough sleep you get flat and crabby

Like Eunhwa

[lone sequoia]

the things that industries give to animals also affect you

[umbral crown]

you can try:
Noah-Noise-S.Anis-Biscuit-Rapunzel
Blanc-Emilia-Red Hood-Noir-Centi
Scarlet-X.Anne-Anis-Rosanna-Jackal

or if you wanna try something different for scar team you could also do

Scarlet-Quiry-X.Anne-Rosanna-Jackal ( cp might drop with this team but could also work if you have 7-10-10 in skills on rosanna...

this if you wanna try something a bit different ( edited, try removing quiry form sync and use her instead in the team below

[kindred moth]

🫡

[pastel narwhal]

and shinier forehead

[rich quail]

fivehead

It’s that big

[umbral crown]

edited

[rich quail]

https://tenor.com/view/lisa-forehead-lisa-ugly-lisa-jumpscare-gif-24035261

[kindred moth]

landing

[lone sequoia]

i wash my face before sleeping

[rich quail]

ok gnite

see u in 45 min

https://tenor.com/view/fun-pet-pet-fun-high-tired-so-tired-gif-24511981

[umbral crown]

almost 5 am in a sunday and et still around

[kindred moth]

ai yooooooooooo

[rich quail]

becuz I u guyz

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

remember me

[umbral crown]

you will never be forgotten

[pastel narwhal]

i was gonna post that meme

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

Great minds think alike
But I’m faster than u

[umbral crown]

wang, whats the sync level of your C1 in your bracket

[rich quail]

[kindred moth]

[worthy knoll]

@copper creek was this bug already mentioned on your bug thread?

[lone sequoia]

should be like 430 for that power or bad OL with higher synchro

[umbral crown]

ar eyou over 2.2m nesso?

[lone sequoia]

2.06-424

no dupes and default OL

[umbral crown]

waos

[glad meteor]

My number 1 2.15 mil

[umbral crown]

some whaling and you get it

[kindred moth]

i think doll +15

[umbral crown]

oh

425 , you are still in range

[lone sequoia]

dupes and OL so the same range

[kindred moth]

kill me like paper

[umbral crown]

you do not use defense teams for attack, right?

[kindred moth]

in my server use 2 nuke

that why high cp

[umbral crown]

yeah, after reset if you are around show us the teams of C3 and we might find a way for you to win

then we go C1

[kindred moth]

I can hit 3-10 but not 1 -2

[lone sequoia]

show c4 teams

[umbral crown]

i see

[kindred moth]

2nd 435 sync

[umbral crown]

we might try to get you C4 or C3 and stay there

[lone sequoia]

my C1 C3 are like lv500

[kindred moth]

usually only hit free rounds 2 times a day. It's all gone

[lone sequoia]

@umbral crown did you finish your laplace?

[kindred moth]

3 and 4 like to use diamonds. So I don't really want to hit.

yesterday they use 1000+ to hit me back

[lone sequoia]

rapu+vigor+sr+5 in a sanis team

[lone sequoia]

the other 2 teams just speed/knowledge check

[kindred moth]

If rapun can do SR+15 it will be great. but i cant

[glad meteor]

Do we have enough info to see how much investment to face tank the following consistently?

Scar + blanc
Scar + rh
Scar+blanc+rh?? (If possible)

[lone sequoia]

nuke or post burst?

[glad meteor]

Probably important to know both, but nuke for now. assuming we use the noah biscuit rapu strat and we’re 1 rl slower?

[lone sequoia]

should be the same speed with blanc as b2 and rh b1
scarlet blanc no damage to kill, depends on OL(ammo+atk) to kill post burst (biscuit is rip)
scarlet rh, can tank but sanis can die by scarlet S2 other dps will die with the nuke
scarlet/blanc/rh, noah tank(biscuitS2) rapu can die or survive depends on puppet, cores/dupes and synchro+vigor or tempering(vigor better for the heals, but she tank more with tempering)

but.... is a scarlet with 3, 4 or 5 S1 stacks?

[umbral crown]

nope, my laplace is lb1 and bond 20, still need to work on her doll

[lone sequoia]

the only answer is don't make a bad team

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

Probably 3 I assume

[umbral crown]

so the way is rank 2

[lone sequoia]

too slow and scarlet can get 4-5 stacks, or she will win because stats diff(synchro lvl)

[umbral crown]

beat 3 or 4 and lets try go for C2 if in range on cp and levels

[lone sequoia]

now if you want to tank a scarlet nuke, you should have dupes+vigor(tempering is better in this situation) SR puppet at high lvl

[kindred moth]

ai yo thank you brooooooooooo

[lone sequoia]

position+timing?

[kindred moth]

yes i wait 2 sec when boss come

[lone sequoia]

9min*

[glad meteor]

Union raid next week, will see what cube to prioritise, quantum or temper

[lone sequoia]

i failed the 10min" rip

[glad meteor]

i could attack c2/3 but im happy in c4

[lone sequoia]

wait to the cube patch, we don't know if SU will change the effects or just add more stats/slots

[glad meteor]

Ok, will do, any timeline on that?

[lone sequoia]

maybe in the next 2 months(?

that means like +16k union currency

reset*

[glad meteor]

No rocks, but pilgrim mold

[pastel narwhal]

1 rock, 1 pilgrim atk helmet and 1 pilgrim defender helmet

[lone sequoia]

1rock

[glad meteor]

Anis from pilgrim mold

[lone sequoia]

pilgrim anis

[glad meteor]

1-6 I think

[lone sequoia]

11/12* (2accounts)

[surreal fable]

how does this look? t2 is a joke but power is high ish, and SG

[grizzled bone]

#pvp-arena message 77k gems. Will i have a bad time chat?

[umbral crown]

who knows

[lone sequoia]

tickets?

[grizzled bone]

gold mileage? 610

[lone sequoia]

you will be fine

1copy and call it a day

[pastel narwhal]

better than mine, got 19k gem but 600-ish mileage

[grizzled bone]

how dare you Rosy

[umbral crown]

4k gems 70 goldies

[pastel narwhal]

1 mastercard

[umbral crown]

im cooked

[lone sequoia]

99k+800

[grizzled bone]

get on my level of hoarding

[umbral crown]

1 is always enough

[grizzled bone]

nvm get on Nesso's level

[umbral crown]

i can not even hoard standar tix

[lone sequoia]

what about adv tickets?

[grizzled bone]

i spent my tix stash on Sanis. Greedy bish

[glad meteor]

Letting standard tickets fly is fine. But you have to save advanced tickets and gems

[lone sequoia]

20 from the last 2 events

[umbral crown]

0

[fiery walrus]

Does this look fine or should I switch something up?

[lone sequoia]

i use standard tickets to pull feed i don't know if it works here since the rem scam

1-1-1-10

[pseudo gate]

Hey guys, need some help for countering this

[umbral crown]

round 1 i would Blanc-Red Hood-Tia-Bunny Soda Jackal

[lone sequoia]

T1depends on scarlet damage,if he kill your sanis+rapu
T2 i don't know if emi can tank or i she atleast get blanc burst

[umbral crown]

i would say: Noah-Biscuit-Emilia- red hoof-Jackal if its rookie

[lone sequoia]

looks fine... T1 rosanna... if tia die before maybe she can stop your chain with her b1

[grizzled bone]

I think you'll be fine on T1 depending on enemy investments. Noise soft counters Scarlet and that line up cant counter SAnis, but you only really damage on burst
For T2 ideal counter for Maid Priv would be Noah but she's also soft countered by Noise or Moran. I think you'll burst first though with 3RL

[glad meteor]

Missing red hood?

[grizzled bone]

can you elaborate?

[umbral crown]

si

[lone sequoia]

singles then x10

[fiery walrus]

I was able to win thanks

[lone sequoia]

some game count those as a normal pull and add % to the 3rd 4th or 5th pull

works in some games and other games just have the rate up at a pity number

[umbral crown]

with that team?

[fiery walrus]

yeah

[umbral crown]

nice

[grizzled bone]

oh i see. But there was a fiasco with Rem??

[pseudo gate]

I have a 40k cp disadvantage though, will it work?

[fleet rover]

hi guys how to counter this emilya team i tryed both redhood and scarlet team and doesnt work

[umbral crown]

i think should be fine

[glad meteor]

At that synchro, 40k cp diff isn’t much iirc

[surreal fable]

t2 his B1 is Tia

[lone sequoia]

i think SU lowered the drop rate for rem banner, the 3 singlesx10 didn't work for me and for too many people the rem banner ate +200 tickets for 1 copy, even for a lot of whales that banner drained them

[surreal fable]

and took forever to burst

both team won with like no casualties lol

[glad meteor]

I had to ticket rem, those rates were nasty

[pastel narwhal]

but that illegal

[raven sparrow]

oof you helped him against me 😦

[grizzled bone]

oh really? that's interesting. Thanks for sharing I might start doing the same just in case lol

[lone sequoia]

not the first time for SU

[umbral crown]

how so

[grizzled bone]

niceu

[umbral crown]

i just saw a team

[raven sparrow]

i'm kidding lol, not a big deal either way XD

[abstract lintel]

Lads I got every S tier PVP character but no idea who to put them together with? whats like the 3 strongest comps?

[lone sequoia]

before rem banner it was 1 ssr every 13 pulls, after that is like normal or worse, the last units took me like +230pulls for the unit and +100 for 1 ssr

[umbral crown]

[pseudo gate]

Didn’t go through. Emilia got blocked by Noah

[grizzled bone]

i dont remember how many pulls it took me to get Rem but i remember between her and Emi it drained the assets

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

lol, whiffing went crazy I assume. May have to sanis

[fleet rover]

anyone can help ?

[lone sequoia]

she took me like a ticket, 90 adv tickets and +30k gems

[umbral crown]

if its too hard you can fight the others 2 and skip this one. this requires some specific set up which i do not remember right now

[glad meteor]

Yep, Biscuit and jackal in one comp means the other should be easier

[abstract lintel]

Yea that's why I don't like the new event being 3 SSRs lol

[pseudo gate]

I tried slowing it down with multiple slight different variants:

1. Noah, biscuit, Emilia, rh, repunzel
2. Noah biscuit, Emilia, rh, centi

Both didn’t go through either

[fleet rover]

same it took me around 200 pulls to get one copy of Rem

[grizzled bone]

yeah 3 SSRs is nutty.

[fleet rover]

but got Emilia by one multi

Rem banner was a scam

[abstract lintel]

the way pulls work at least what I noticed is that game will toss you into huge ruts where you only get like 1 SSR every like 10 pulls but once you get through the rut the flood gates open

I have no facts to back that just what I think lol

[glad meteor]

Depends on investments too

[lone sequoia]

i had a +540 no ssr streak (standard banner not in the same day, no ssr in event banner) before trying the feed in this game

[pastel narwhal]

i think i've seen streams when someone spent 200 pulls and getting none of the banner unit , looks like it happens to someone from time to time

[surreal fable]

I dont get it, why dont they just do revenge bonk?

[abstract lintel]

that's actually soul crushing

[umbral crown]

Noah-Noise-S.Anis-Biscuit-Rapunzel

[surreal fable]

hitting me at literally the same spot as the one that hit them lol

[grizzled bone]

alright thats nuts

[velvet sky]

[pseudo gate]

Didn’t go through either 😅

Should I try noah-noise-Emilia-biscuit-rapunzel?

[lone sequoia]

sg feed on jackal+emi, don't use teams with +20speed

[lone sequoia]

no, wait, what team?

[pseudo gate]

This one

[lone sequoia]

blanc/emi? or noah/biscuit or 2RL rosanna

i would try noah/SG/biscuit/SG/SG-rapu

or a nuke scarlet/xanne/rh

[pseudo gate]

I tried this earlier and didn’t go through either

[lone sequoia]

nero/biscuit maybe

with the change to noah burst gen depends on your CS

[pseudo gate]

I’ll try this after reset, ran out of tries today lol

[lone sequoia]

since you don't have sanis feed on jackal

iron units+noir

wait, noir+drake or strong SG or just sanis team(?

a moran/b1/biscuit/sanis/jackal(?

[pseudo gate]

Don’t have nero, it eludes me even with wishlist
I have a good drake and noir ready around

[grizzled bone]

couldnt a mirror team with Sanis beat this?

[lone sequoia]

yes, sanis team

[pseudo gate]

Nope, I just tried, it was quite close but not guaranteed. If sanis aim for scalter then maybe, haven’t seen that result yet

[lone sequoia]

sanis position?

p3 can get taunt

[umbral crown]

or mirror scarlet

[glad meteor]

Noah/biscuit/sanis/red/emi?

[lone sequoia]

is rookie or sp?

[pseudo gate]

Middle - noah/noise/sanis/biscuit/repunzal

[lone sequoia]

sanis p4

[grizzled bone]

yeah sanis p4

[lone sequoia]

if you need damage try my team or k team(rookie or sp?)

kara or k?

[glad meteor]

Write k, I use that most the time

[coarse lake]

@worn field had an interesting situation in coop regarding RH and stun, very similar to pvp situation

[pseudo gate]

It’s on rookie
I’ll give it a try sanis on p4 then

[coarse lake]

I think I accidentally bursted immediately after getting stunned by blacksmith, so my icon showed me as stunned, but I still blasted away as RH

I think it's the same situation as priv stun vs rh in pvp

if same speed, the timing would be just right that rh ignores the stun

if true, a slightly slower priv in pvp should be able to stun rh out of her burst

[lone sequoia]

dodge or just the stun time?

[keen vapor]

Tia

[coarse lake]

I didn't dodge it

I think I bursted as I was going into cover from the stun

which would roughly line up with pvp timings since priv stun would happen right before rh b3

[lone sequoia]

hard to get the timing with jackal feed or whiff

+cs

[coarse lake]

it could explain why rh sometimes ignores priv stun completely

[lone sequoia]

maybe if you time like 2-5 points in 2.5RL+sg

or a steady feed with AR

[coarse lake]

timing naturally happens with 3rl vs 3rl, as long as the teams are basically 3RL (so a lot of RLs)

[pastel narwhal]

well, #3 finally took down the copied #1's defenses and yet still attacked me He's probably cp gapped now so he now has no choice but to target me. I guess it's time to try my saved teams as it'll be endless back and forth anyway

[grizzled bone]

whats the sync level?

[lone sequoia]

you can challenge him into a 2RL scarlet race if your RL have CS

or just rosanna

[pastel narwhal]

they are almost the same level 401 vs 407

#3's cp though is 1880995, he even cp stacked with an alice on team3
#1's cp is 2034959

[coarse lake]

here priv stunned RH a bit too early, so rh still got stunned

[coarse lake]

the other vids I can find seem to have priv stunning right before rh bursted

rh gets stunned then immediately bursts

[grizzled bone]

we're in similar brackets

[grizzled bone]

you saving for the 10 pull? im at 100 right now

[pastel narwhal]

are we? what's your name there?

i could never communicate with anyone in my bracket

[lone sequoia]

no reason to use those in my main account

[lone sequoia]

stunned after blanc burst then emi die and rh b3

[grizzled bone]

ign is same as discord. We're not the same bracket, just similar situations and sync levels I think. I'm sitting at C2 cuz C1 has gapped everyone at 2,162,873 but the others have started catching up

[coarse lake]

need to find a vid of priv stunning RH after RH bursts (ammo turns to /99)

bc it should stun rh properly

[pastel narwhal]

oh ok, i thought i finally found an ally there

[lone sequoia]

you want to cancel the weapon change?

[coarse lake]

it'll waste some of rh's burst

the alternative is to stun rh earlier

yeah I wanna see if rh can get stunned mid-burst

[lone sequoia]

she should

[umbral crown]

aoi finally having some action

https://tenor.com/view/pool-boy-dopinder-deadpool-live-the-dreams-mr-pool-gif-22377230

[pastel narwhal]

I'm not even done raising lap+ yet

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

CA is going to be fun if it’s cross servers, seeing people on here lol

[umbral crown]

start preparing your teams

people will not cook c.a teams for others

[glad meteor]

Cooked if I have to go against people with niet collab, where’s my A2

[lone sequoia]

get resources to +5SR puppets for CA units @umbral crown

[umbral crown]

of course

its what i have bene doing

but now focusing on maxing moran doll

[lone sequoia]

A2 can be meta again, she just need more buffers

her explosion range avoid" taunt

[glad meteor]

I’ve been investing in campaign. I had the lowest cp clear for mirror container on global for a while.

[pastel narwhal]

finally got my raid frame3 so i guess it's back to raising my pvp units again

[umbral crown]

[grizzled bone]

anyone seen Kilo being used?

[umbral crown]

nope

after her release

[grizzled bone]

someone came in asking for help with teams and that was the first time I saw Kilo being used despite being decently rated

[glad meteor]

Noise is usually taken in Sanis team

[grizzled bone]

im thinking about giving SR doll to Alice

she's my main carry pve and does well in pvp

[coarse lake]

sure

she's like the second prio for sniper doll after RH

[umbral crown]

si

[ionic latch]

okay my dudes who in pvp is meta

[keen vapor]

Noah gimme

[grizzled bone]

lol i think he's mad

[keen vapor]

[ionic latch]

she is the one Im missing sadly

[grizzled bone]

To get a decent idea of who is meta in PVP

From @spiral onyx

• Nikke PvP Tier List
  https://tinyurl.com/nikke-pvp-tierlist
• Nikke PvP Test Matrix
  http://tinyurl.com/keripo-nikke-pvp-test-matrix
• "Countering the Meta (PvP Showcase)" video
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b7y97S_s0k

From @bleak shale

• Guide to the Fundamentals of PvP
  https://tinyurl.com/kosmiu-pvp-guide
• PvP Burst Gen Calculator
  https://tinyurl.com/kosmiu-burst-gen-calc

From @full dew

• PvP Burst Gen Calculator
  https://tinyurl.com/gatrix-burst-gen-calc

From @blissful willow

• Introduction to PvP: https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/pvp-intro/
• PvP Mechanics: https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/pvp-mechanics
• Burst Generation Guide: https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/pvp-burst
• Basic Teambuilding and Meta Nikkes: https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/pvp-sp-arena
• Meta Teams and Archetypes: https://www.prydwen.gg/nikke/guides/pvp-sp-arena-teams

From @twin bluff

• PvP Overview: https://nikke.gg/arena-pvp/
• PvP Mechanics: https://nikke.gg/arena-mechanics/
• PvP Meta Overview: https://nikke.gg/arena-meta-overview/
• Rookie Arena Comps: https://nikke.gg/arena-team-compositions/
• SP Arena Comps: https://nikke.gg/special-arena-team-compositions/

From 瑟瑟出品

• Rookie Arena Videos (CN): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm7TApldE9QBb5aaQizIrIX0PMmTOZFJo
• SP Arena Videos (CN): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm7TApldE9QBCIBJXz6gxKHcf54BEuT3Z
• SP Arena Videos (English): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm7TApldE9QAqccQN3wgMufgcxWC1D26f

From NGA (Chinese forums)

• Guide to SP Arena Mechanics
  https://tinyurl.com/nga-pvp-guide

off hand? Noah, Noise, Sanis, Alice, RH, Scarlet, SBS, Biscuit, Jackal, Blanc, Rapunzel are probably going to be cornerstones of most of your line ups

[ionic latch]

holllyyyyyy, thats a lot of reading

[grizzled bone]

honestly, just look at the tier lists and sort by pvp to start

[ionic latch]

thats prolly the best way, Im really bad at keeping up with meta so I'd like to know whats op and whats working relatively well

is prywden a reliable source?

[grizzled bone]

first link is what I refer to the most

[fresh mantle]

hello, can someone suggest a good team ? im not sure if i should swap out centi and privaty

[grizzled bone]

prywden is decent they differ a bit from nikke.gg in terms of investments but you should look at both and come to your own conclusions or ask here. Keripo's investments are also if you have the resources. you have to pick and choose who you'll prioritise first

[pastel narwhal]

@umbral crown power of friendship!

[keen vapor]

|| ||

[pastel narwhal]

why does she have a skin

[grizzled bone]

for rookie or special?

[ionic latch]

alrighty, thanks a lot
I usually looked up prywden bc their site was nice and clear to understand but I guess its time to vary my sources for once

[prisma marlin]

Any idea why loading times seem better in my ipad pro than my pc?

[fresh mantle]

rookie

[grizzled bone]

you should look at Keripo's tier list cuz he goes into detail about units and their PvP use

[grizzled bone]

try clearing cache on your PC maybe, could be a memory issue

[keen vapor]

Choco

[grizzled bone]

please post your box sorted by power

[surreal fable]

what the actual fk

[bleak shale]

i got pinged 👀

[drifting hazel]

Is this team enough to beat him? Same CP

[fresh mantle]

idm leveling lower power units as well

[keen vapor]

What

[fresh mantle]

the rest

[surreal fable]

why does everyone suddenly hitting me???

[keen vapor]

Why on team

[grizzled bone]

deselect the units so we can get a better understanding of who is higher in power

[fresh mantle]

ahh sorry

[grizzled bone]

my bad crown. I'll link next time

[glad meteor]

Probably not, crown,liter,mod against emma is a big no

Heal goes crazy I assume

[surreal fable]

is this winnable? I tried my best to not be deficit

was going to try with Noir instead of jackal on t2 but it becomes 4RL burst

[grizzled bone]

Your team right now would probably do better with swapping Privaty out for someone with an RL for burst gen or a defender

[velvet sky]

again

[umbral crown]

salvage them

[fresh mantle]

okay thnk you 😄

[surreal fable]

any help on this one?

[umbral crown]

bursting with biscuit benefits more S,Anis than sbs

[prisma marlin]

Man no pop up shop for pilgrim tower floor 30…. I would have wheled for,pilgrim molds.

[surreal fable]

i just dont know how to deal with Noah

their team is 4RL burst, so they'll be slower

[velvet sky]

it doesn’t have it in general

[surreal fable]

noah's indom will last longer

[prisma marlin]

[hexed osprey]

??

[umbral crown]

[surreal fable]

how long is Noah's indom?

[umbral crown]

3 sec

[bleak shale]

0s, noah doesnt indom

[umbral crown]

invun

[rich quail]

invin

[surreal fable]

who benefits from Biscuit's s2?

[umbral crown]

defenders

[surreal fable]

is it s.anis?

ah nvm not her then

[umbral crown]

S,Anis from her burst

whats your biscuit burst level

[surreal fable]

I can maybe swap t2 to 1

[umbral crown]

and from burst even noise benefits

[surreal fable]

just 4

if I do blanc RH rapunzel centi crown then it'll be 4RL burst

RH would still be b3 and get indom

unless centi somehow takes it

I can outlast their noah and just go pew pew

[rich quail]

FAKE BUT TASTE FOR REAL

[surreal fable]

but then I need to make t2 live somehow

[umbral crown]

s.anis and doro might make you burst faster

and if you burst with biscuit and s.anis , she will life steal since biscuit burst helps supporter units like noise and s.anis

[surreal fable]

okay noise didnt survive

i switched t2 to blanc emi RH centi crown, but got stunned

I thought 3.5RL is faster than 4?

[umbral crown]

it is but remember noah speed is x2

[glad meteor]

Emi comps whiff a lot

[umbral crown]

did you record?

[surreal fable]

my bad, nope

switch to blanc emi rapunzel centi vs t2

3RL burst

should be good if I get stunned

this one I'll burst first

[umbral crown]

usually i like emi comps against privaty stuns

since after stun she just charge burst again

[surreal fable]

but for t1 I lost cos noise died

its jackal s.anis link right?

S.anis and sbs have the highest atk power

[umbral crown]

yes

so both of them ar elinked

[rich quail]

Yay one supporter/defender down with full OL+0

[surreal fable]

how about now?

wouldve done SG comp if my BSoda and Mpriv are fully built

im yoloing

damn it now centi is getting targeted and got the indom

why did they skip blanc tho?

[umbral crown]

probably target skip

[surreal fable]

like residue?

i dont rmb the term

[umbral crown]

yes

[surreal fable]

isnt it rng thing?

[umbral crown]

i think so, its been a while since i fought against similar teams

[surreal fable]

last try i guess

if it doesnt work I'll stop

[umbral crown]

@coarse lake forget this team, this does not really work

[sullen zenith]

if you're facing a team that has jackal in it, they're going to burst before you

[umbral crown]

i know, was just testin a team for eon

[sullen zenith]

oooh

[umbral crown]

[wise horizon]

Any advice? @worn field

[coarse lake]

hmm

ah forgot that rosa would just kill herself against scarlet

unless you use jackal, but at that point it's not really worth it

[umbral crown]

yep

[coarse lake]

on atk you can use jackal, but you can just do a scar rosa jackal anyway

on defense... you still need jackal

yeah that's yikes

[umbral crown]

yeah, im keeping scar rosanna and jackal together all the time

and since im using the sac i learnt from rakuen things work even better

[coarse lake]

yeah it's just a rosa team with sanis slapped in rather than a sanis team with rosa slapped in

plus you feed them quite a lot before unlink happens

[umbral crown]

did not think about it

but that makes sense

[coarse lake]

even if rosa bursted your noah b2 might not even be in time

[trail inlet]

elysion tower is gonna make me do stuff

[coarse lake]

ok the next idea is Noah/Noise/Biscuit/Sanis/Lappy

[umbral crown]

buy maricana skin?

[coarse lake]

lappy treasured and full of ele%

goal is to straight up kill scarlet idk if possible

also kills p2 emi

[trail inlet]

i dont have damage to kill chatterbox

[umbral crown]

on that maybe munch can help, my laplace is not treasure yet

[umbral crown]

sounds like skill issues

[coarse lake]

@copper creek how much ele% is your lappy treasure

lappy has ele advantage, so if enough ele, I feel like it could work

trying to OL my lappy as well, but no rocks yet

[trail inlet]

imagine later pvp is also focused on elemental damage

[glad meteor]

Lol, I just did it recently, it was pretty bad

Clip sg with elemental rolls will be great for targetting p1 in ca, biscuit/jackal prob won’t be there to save them

[umbral crown]

just imagine target skip and residual throught the whole fight of 5 teams

[coarse lake]

not sure if lappy's dmg is higher than a sg

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

ah nvm it's not even close

[bleak shale]

i mean u have attack conversion and attack speed just put the numbers together and find out

[coarse lake]

assuming lvl 4 s2, lappy does about 160% of atk every 1RL

bsoda does 460% every 1RL

[trail inlet]

is laplace only good for burst gen?

[coarse lake]

burst gen and splash dmg

[trail inlet]

maybe she good in pve?

[coarse lake]

wait nvm, forgot about charge

that was uncharged lappy

about 260% vs 460% still

I assume the 250% charge bonus is just the base % * 2.5

[trail inlet]

they should remove cloak for getting fav item so i can see the assets

[coarse lake]

if both their p1 and p2 are linked, then lappy wins out

but nearly everyone running double buff scar run scar/blanc

so only 1 linked target is hit

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[coarse lake]

lappy has benefit of not feeding scar excessively though

for reference, I got a rookie dude running tia/noise/biscuit/lappy/emilia, and my p2 linked emilia usually goes down to 1/3rd hp before I burst

but emilia is doing a lot of the dmg there, no emilia on sanis team

sanis does do 500% though

idk.... there might be a chance

[next pebble]

Alright I’ve decided to take PVP seriously now so you smart people do you thing. Build me a team (please) also this ain’t my whole roster it’s just I can only post them 4 at a time

[coarse lake]

if enemy is low enough invest

[next pebble]

Here’s the other characters. I got 4 free slots on synchro ready to go

[trail inlet]

emma highest cp

what the helllllll

ohhh my gaaawwwdddd

nvm its synchro

im highly regarded dont mind me

[coarse lake]

if biscuit is beefy enough to live..... it might still work even if sanis dies

lappy burst will kill linked units

[glad meteor]

I think A2 could be nice to pair with emi/laplace for pre burst, I haven’t read abilities since I started later. But RL DPS that hits 3

[coarse lake]

a2 is good bc she can hit 2 linked at once (assuming scar/blanc/rh)

[maiden sail]

T3 has worked 3x, willing to change it to beat either of the enemy teams.

[coarse lake]

emilia as well, but it's a waste of emilia

[rich quail]

Is it time to dust off A2 for pvp once again?

[coarse lake]

I think you can just run that team and invest-diff them

make it so your sanis can be tanky enough to live, or at least your biscuit

0 cs noah and noise also means enemy scar and blanc get taunted to attack noise, which triggers her S1 guaranteed for some dmg reduction

with high enough investment it will work for sure, I've seen scar blanc rh fail to nuke sanis comp before

[glad meteor]

I can’t reccommend since I haven’t even read abilities lol, but she has nice burst gen with sub damage I think

[coarse lake]

in situations where sanis team is beefy enough to live through scarlet nuke, the best option is emi icbm

[rich quail]

Excellent to hear

Both my Noise and Noah are cs free

[coarse lake]

but with lappy, they also gotta run jackal, or a revive emi (which most ppl don't know about)

I think it's a team that you can just throw investment at (to make them beefy) and it'll work against ppl without really high invest scar nuke comp

and it'll work against a lot of sanis comps too, since lappy will be highest atk

so your sanis won't be touched until lappy is dead

[rich quail]

I reset my A2, but I was thinking of building her up again

She helped me get through pve in my early days when I didn’t have a reliable nuke like Scarlet

[coarse lake]

just keep a2 at enough invest for a sub-dps

just need s2 invest

s1 and burst can be ignored unless you use her in raids

actually nvm, s2 scaling is garbage

1/1/1 is fine for pvp sub dps ngl

[trail inlet]

SP-Def :
noah/noise/Scalter/biscuit/Anis
emilia/blanc/noir/rapunzel/pepper
scarlet/naga/rosanna/centi/jackal

Pls synchro:
blanc
centi
jackal
noah
Emilia
naga

I do not advise running def teams on atk:
Atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order.

[coarse lake]

dmg is just like a typical attacker RL, but 3 range, so less dmg than emi

but still good, plus burst gen is good

[rich quail]

I guess A2 just needs OL gear for the cp help

[coarse lake]

yeah, atk lines too

ele isn't that important, very few wind units

charge speed as well ig

[trail inlet]

switch t1 to t2 and you should win lol

[coarse lake]

just anything for CP tbh should be good

nothing huge you need to get

[trail inlet]

why is bro trying to scarjack a noah

scarjack the sanis team with no noah lmao

[coarse lake]

man, kinda sucks that lappy burst makes her ST

[maiden sail]

I despise pvp, and dislike thinking about it more
cant tell me this game mode is good

[next pebble]

Alright imma screenshot this and then try it out later

[coarse lake]

oh yeah ele on lappy is huge, good against sanis, scarlet, noise, rosa, biscuit

noise and biscuit being the main ones, might make enemy sanis comp lose just from that

[umbral crown]

now go for C1

[maiden sail]

C1?

[trail inlet]

chall 1

[umbral crown]

challenger 1

[trail inlet]

[glad meteor]

Maybe elemental on a2 can help push and kill blanc/noah without biscuit, pre burst if they’re running dps p1 that get’s target skipped. But unreliable eh

[rich quail]

Yeah, I remember

She lazored my whole team with no resistance

[maiden sail]

Ah yes let me beat the 421 synchro dude as 341

[coarse lake]

yeah ele on a2 would help kill those two

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

ig even xanne

usually put in p2 in scar jack, if you can somehow kill her before they burst, that would be huge

unbuffed scarlet

but dmg probably isn't there

dmg to a single target is just typical attacker RL

[glad meteor]

Yep

[trail inlet]

is a scarlet/xanne/rosanna team worth investing in just wondering

[coarse lake]

yeah it's worth, very standard rosa comp

also very easy to counter, but y'know

[trail inlet]

well ill do it when i get scarlet

[coarse lake]

it lets you use blanc and noah in the other 2 teams, so overall worth it

in my cooks I run into issue having a good b2 for one of my teams, and xanne would be great

[trail inlet]

you dont have xanne?

[coarse lake]

biscuit in a moran biscuit comp works too, but moran low invest, cp issue

I started on her rerun banner, decided to skip bc I was f2p at that time and wasn't interested in pvp

well not banner, she didn't have one

[trail inlet]

bruh i was pulling for xlud and got her twice

[coarse lake]

I wouldn't have gotten 200 mileage to get her even if I wanted her now that I think about it

first month I was f2p