pvp-arena

[pastel narwhal]

idk if sticking to platinum is stunting my growth

[lone sequoia]

yep

[odd osprey]

and i was kinda naive thinking that half anniversary will have a double pilgrim

[lone sequoia]

aim to top50 or top100

[coarse lake]

you'll have to prepare for hour 1 malds in UR for those though

[umbral crown]

go

[pastel narwhal]

but at the same time i really hate the speedrun gaming of union raids , most diamonds are probably scheduling their runs

[lone sequoia]

30-50 casual

[coarse lake]

my union rn finish it within a few hours of day 2 and rank about 1-2%

[pastel narwhal]

does ur union require to discord sched stuff?

[coarse lake]

mine? not really

[pastel narwhal]

or just use up the runs ea day?

[coarse lake]

we got a channel for it, and ppl sometimes semi-coordinate who hits what so we don't waste runs too much

[lone sequoia]

only if you try to rank, with high synchro you can just attack

[coarse lake]

but we got ppl that do just do their runs and call it a day

[pastel narwhal]

ohhh so a semi casual do exist

[lone sequoia]

you can try to join a top50 guild and attack the first bosses

[odd osprey]

i have noise and it's full OL

[coarse lake]

what about treasure laplace

[pastel narwhal]

alright thanks, time to leave

[odd osprey]

i know treasure laplace is good. but i just started to build her recently

i only give her an R doll

stat is stil 4-4-4

[coarse lake]

if you wanna keep your teams relatively the same, you can do:
Noah/Noise/Biscuit/Sanis/Tia (Put quantum on at least noah)
Blanc/Bscar/Rapunzel/Anis/Centi
Scarlet/Xanne/Noir/Rosanna/Jackal

although your bscar team will be pretty weak (hard countered by noah biscuit)

do you have a built A2?

[lone sequoia]

if SU add more lvls for kill rewards(lv20cap) milestones rewards (every 5lvl for+30) you can relax more for UR since that will take like 3 days for higher guilds and a final dummy boss for ranks (with lower rewards for higher ranks)

[odd osprey]

not really. skill is 4-4-4. it's full OL tho

[coarse lake]

Noah/Noise/Biscuit/Sanis/Centi
Blanc/Bscar/Rapunzel/Anis/A2
Scarlet/Xanne/Noir/Rosanna/Jackal

[odd osprey]

thank you 🫡

[spiral onyx]

When did they say they will add cube levels? 😮

B2 is a heavily contested spot, so many strong supports and tanks so you didn't really need a B2 burst gen. Only situation I can think of is 5SGs with Viper over Poli for burst gen reasons but that's very niche

[coarse lake]

I heard they said it somewhere a bit ago, lemme check

https://nikke-en.com/newsdetail.html?content_id=e366cbd8a7a8ea4d11a8559a8f0727e57075&sid=494&from=list&col_name=IMPORTANT&father_content_id=e366cbd8a7a8ea4d11a8559a8f0727e57075

july dev notes

[glacial lion]

Can moran burst block scar/emi burst with 2 buffer?

[coarse lake]

moran roughly negates 1 buffer

so emi burst prob not, scar burst maybe, depends on invest, but I wouldn't bet on it

[lone sequoia]

moran teams are slow

[coarse lake]

moran also can just die to scar counter if you don't have biscuit

[umbral crown]

so moran is not a good counter for double buffed scar

[glad meteor]

Double buffed Mpriv can nuke moran team too I think

[umbral crown]

[spiral onyx]

All the more reason to not MLB liberation units lmao

[velvet sky]

i tried to block emi with moran b10, didn’t work

[copper creek]

was there any ever reason to mlb liberation units

[velvet sky]

Nihil just exists for staring at her abs for me

I’m like WOW

[copper creek]

u can have that too 😄

[umbral crown]

to unlock cap in sync level

its a whale thing

[lone sequoia]

that take likex4 the time and you need UR currency, something that a new player can't get

i read it as 160wallxd

[umbral crown]

its mostly thing for day 1 players who are really competitives and have everything

[velvet sky]

maybe but it’s not my style haha, i loooove that on other women instead tho & overall them being strong hahaha like princess-carry me pls

[copper creek]

i would imagine probably better to level cubes ...

[umbral crown]

yes, thats what keripo said

he must be around 750 sync

or so

[lone sequoia]

like a potato bag(?

[velvet sky]

Nesso is very romantic

[copper creek]

nesso is married?

[umbral crown]

[lone sequoia]

+2-5lvs are fine, now the important part is those 6 extra slots... for what game mode you need+12 units with the same cube?

[copper creek]

this is the sort of nonsense only married men will say

[lone sequoia]

no.

[copper creek]

ahhhhhh

[velvet sky]

guess he then tried to carry someone like patata bag & she didn’t like it

[copper creek]

-_- f this boss

[lone sequoia]

you already finish the rng hell(16-17)

[copper creek]

that one was bad? really? i one-shot all of c16

[lone sequoia]

my runs were at 45%deficit so, yeah

[copper creek]

i assume no backlog to clear here

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

maybe

[velvet sky]

I’m stuck at that dumb thunder kfc chicken in ch 18

[umbral crown]

open your boxes

[glad meteor]

[copper creek]

ah cba

if i missed anything and it was urgent enough they can ask again

[pastel narwhal]

kfc

[velvet sky]

I’m not echo i don’t have any

[umbral crown]

just in case

[glad meteor]

If noise has more cs than noah. Is it fine for noah noise biscuit sanis comp?

[lone sequoia]

the chapter 16 boss took me like 15-20 hours

[glad meteor]

I got a 3rd line ele on noise but a first line cs. Want to keep the elemental

[copper creek]

sounds like my experience with this new boss ..

[lone sequoia]

maybe it was another boss

[copper creek]

im gonna guess the 17 boss? sinister? is the one u spent a lot of time on? 😂

[lone sequoia]

but the newboss in normal or solo raid?

[copper creek]

both ..

[lone sequoia]

i like this boss

[copper creek]

i love it

i just think restacking the full DEF buff on p2 elemental qte is a bit overdoing it

apart from that, super fun

would love to see more bosses and mechanics like this personally

[lone sequoia]

i asked for a boss like this in one of the surveys

they needed to add the elemental weakness change

[umbral crown]

[copper creek]

tbh - i thought SR was gonna be more cancerous

if they wanted to they could have made SR version a lot worse

my prediction was:
1st p2 slipper - takes dmg from 1st hit
2nd slipper - take dmg from 2nd hit
etc etc

[lone sequoia]

mechanics check not just dps

[copper creek]

i was prepared to fight SR with that mechanic, unfortunately, didnt come to pass 😂

[lone sequoia]

now the campaign version can be really bad because... power deficit

[copper creek]

yeah, its extremely severe dps check

[lone sequoia]

but all the bosses are bad in campaign for the same reason

[copper creek]

but this one particularly bad

because u need to play it perfectly, otherwise u cant clear

i think i was at 7-8 bars, then slowly optimised play til i was stuck on last bar

one of my runs i even paused after every shot 😅

[lone sequoia]

now we need bosses with damage reduction and thorn

true damage units will shine

[copper creek]

maybe let me complete my exia/frima/laplace treasures then u introduce those 😂

[lone sequoia]

the other mechanic SU didn't add was the close animation like harvester laser

[copper creek]

i was hoping for indivilia amount of attacks tbh 😂

up to you
im not sure i would put her as first priority personally, but your call

[lone sequoia]

R15 first so when you swap to SR you already have lv5 and is easier than upgrade a SR from lv0

[copper creek]

im more interested in putting SR SR doll on red hood and alice first before ein

[lone sequoia]

drop to .48

i can get like +300m but it is fine

[copper creek]

plz dont tempt me to rerun ...

[lone sequoia]

1day more

i learned biscuit pre-shot and stopped for emi(during laplace b3)

[grizzled bone]

the pause after every shot is maddening lmao

[copper creek]

you saw some of the rubbish i had to do firsthand, so 😂

[lone sequoia]

reset*

[pastel narwhal]

@umbral crown

[copper creek]

#gacha-rolls message

Prayer for rocks lets go

[pastel narwhal]

only 1 rock

[copper creek]

YES YES YESY ES YES

[pastel narwhal]

5 clicks? what? o.O

[copper creek]

FOR MY SCARLET YES

or my scalter, but idk

anyway 1rock

[umbral crown]

[coarse lake]

I should be ok

[copper creek]

@umbral crown #gacha-rolls message

[copper creek]

bro i told you already 😂 you are definitely fine

[keen vapor]

[keen vapor]

Undoubtedly

[keen vapor]

How to deal 1b in one team?

[pastel narwhal]

i envy your server

[copper creek]

who ask you to play in SEA

[pastel narwhal]

snow white, scarlet and rapunz did on my first week

[lone sequoia]

2 rocks

[copper creek]

anyway just for fun for you guys to laugh at

youtube algorithm recommended me a video on "all the best bars in singapore" - longform video, almost 30 bars shown in that video

all of them looked familiar... i realised... ive been to all of them...

... between june and now...

No reroll?!!?!

[coarse lake]

I don't

[keen vapor]

[lone sequoia]

crown team(?

[pastel narwhal]

just 999m on ea

[coarse lake]

I have 2 teams that are close

[copper creek]

lol i had 2 teams at 1b if i played properly

[glad meteor]

Did it with crown/sbs/Alice/liter/naga. I don’t have Tia

[keen vapor]

I have neither of the Joshikouseis

[copper creek]

u can solve that problem very quickly

[keen vapor]

pull this pull the other... As if I weren't tried dozens of times

[keen vapor]

How you survive

[lone sequoia]

alice or sbs tank

you have crown shield+taunt

[keen vapor]

HOW THEY HAVE MORE ATTACK THAN 1HP GUILLOTINE

[lone sequoia]

spam full burst

[coarse lake]

I counted my rh shots today, 32 shots as usual

I think I'm technically missing 1, but I've always been missing it

[rich quail]

0 rocks 0 t9m

[velvet sky]

0 rocks again

[lone sequoia]

#pvp-arena message

[rich quail]

I did buy a copy of the gremlin at the store tho

[umbral crown]

whale

[umbral crown]

me at 23.83%

[lone sequoia]

1% NA

[pastel narwhal]

@umbral crown he did it! after 3 seasons

[rich quail]

First iPhone crash of the day

Good ol’ Nikke, always trying your best

[tawny vine]

guys

rap pos 1 was the answer all along

[rich quail]

Really now

p1 compared to…?

[tawny vine]

I've been doing mental gymnastics for a week because I'm noahless

compared to scarlet or blanc

I know it's a memw

[lone sequoia]

stun?

[tawny vine]

the stun is a bonus when it happens yeah but not guaranteed

[rich quail]

Oh, that would be good to stun on purpose

[tawny vine]

funny when it does tho

[rich quail]

But yeah if she can handle it p1 rapu is a good thing

My Scarlet is pretty fragile too, so I feel the shame

[tawny vine]

it wasn't even close

[rich quail]

I can’t link to Scarlet because atk is weak and I haven’t gotten many rocks to solve that problem

[rich quail]

But it kinda was tho

[tawny vine]

tbf scarlet link disappears in less than 1 sec because rossana

[rich quail]

Yeah that’s what made it kinda close

[tawny vine]

I just want noah man so I wouldn't have to resort to these jank setups lmao

[rich quail]

Even Bay would help

[tawny vine]

she's on another team in sp but yeah

same tech but in rookie with the funny stun

[rich quail]

I’m tempted to buff up Scarlet doll but that would kill her chances to get indom if I pair with Blanc

[umbral crown]

was about time

took him 3 seasons to send a succesfull message

[lone sequoia]

naa, you only need more hp in the second unit

[umbral crown]

[pastel narwhal]

finally a butt poke i can feel

[rich quail]

You mean like giving Vigor Cube to characters like Biscuit?

[lone sequoia]

biscuit? blancp1 and scarlet p2...with jackal?

high synchro diff?

[umbral crown]

but.. the video?

[umbral crown]

now he might be able to send more messages

will you change your teams?

[rich quail]

Should I buff Scarlet AND Blanc dolls?

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

That’s kinda what I want to do, actually

[umbral crown]

do it, ez

[lone sequoia]

depends on your teams/units i go with pve units and stop at SRlv5 since i use blue mats for R, then swap to SR

SR mats for treasure units

purple/golden

[tawny vine]

I sent two clips @umbral crown

the 2nd one after that was a funny stun

[pastel narwhal]

depends if he's consistent, i have experimental teams on my list but probably no point if he's the only attacker

[rich quail]

Well, I do have the opportunity to get Laplace to LaPlus

[pastel narwhal]

maybe my fault too, i haven't been investing on my pvp teams for loong time now. Been hyper focused on my SR teams lately

[rich quail]

I forgot to buff Laplace’s gears today

I spent it all on Anis

[copper creek]

hey, but at least you got the 3% this time! gud stuff

[coarse lake]

how does the treasure process work after getting them to 30 friendship and lvl 15 SR

do you just use up the 160 items and fully unlock? does it take time? etc

[rich quail]

Pull a reverse Echo and unleash the core dust boxes

[copper creek]

u gotta do a bunch of "treasure story quests" then u get ssr item

[pastel narwhal]

hopefully weird things happen last min at SEA , gonna mald a final time later

[copper creek]

then u use ur ssr mats

[coarse lake]

how fast can you do it

[copper creek]

this sr is legit mald til bald

[coarse lake]

is it just a series of missions then you spam feed the mats?

[copper creek]

essentially

[coarse lake]

oh ok, should be pretty fast then I hope

[pastel narwhal]

and some story mode too, but can be done in like 10-15mins

[pastel narwhal]

i don't have echo stash i am depleted

[rich quail]

That’s good to know. I have more than enough cloths for Laplace, and she’s already at Bond Level 30

[copper creek]

i want echo stash plz

[velvet sky]

me too

[pastel narwhal]

echo stash = new hoarding definition

[rich quail]

Me too. Echo probably has enough that 10 of us could cp gap challenger 1 in our respective arena groups

[grave bough]

@coarse lake Your advice worked yesterday. I hope you get 10 SSR pulls during a Pilgrim Event. Thanks brotha!

[coarse lake]

[spare fox]

I need some help making some DEF teams for SP Arena since some guy 40 sync levels down on me keeps beating me and it's driving me insane

Current teams attached:

Current Nikkes:

[tawny vine]

is today final day for solo raid?

[coarse lake]

yes

[tawny vine]

[coarse lake]

main in a little less than 5 hours btw, so keep that in mind

[tawny vine]

time to open game again haven't made any attempts yet since it sounded suffering

[summer copper]

just requires a bit more work than just going unga bunga for a change

[sharp violet]

coming in hot like a peach cobbler

[rich quail]

I’m halfway done in getting my main support/defender units to OL+0

It’s feeling like an eternity, but I can feel the difference already

[spare fox]

Just replying so that it doesn't get buried since I still need help with it

[coarse lake]

do you have treasure laplace? also I assume you don't have emilia or rapunzel, couldn't find them

[copper creek]

resend current nikkes as screenshots plz

gif being painful

[spare fox]

If you don't see them I don't have them unfortunately 😔 No treasure La+

[coarse lake]

what skill invest is your A2

and bsoda

[wise horizon]

Any advice here? @copper creek

[umbral crown]

the only worthy rival you might get

[coarse lake]

Scarlet/Noir/Centi/Liter/Jackal
Noah/Noise/Biscuit/Sanis/Tia
Blanc/Bsoda/RH/Anis/A2

[spare fox]

Laplace still use even if no treasure? It's okay?

[coarse lake]

there for burst gen

[spare fox]

Gotcha

[coarse lake]

you can use tia instead

but will need quantum on someone in that team

actually yeah use tia for cp stacking

[spare fox]

Wdym by quantum?

[pastel narwhal]

not really though, he's a very casual whale only wins by cp, it's no surprise it took him this long

[coarse lake]

quantum cube

[spare fox]

Oh I don't think I have that lmao

What does it do?

[coarse lake]

it's from lost sector, one of the earlier ones

increases burst gen

[spare fox]

OH that okay pfft

Thought it was one of the new ones

[coarse lake]

this one

[spare fox]

So Tia instead of Laplace as long as someone has quantum?

[coarse lake]

if yours is lower than lvl 7, you'll have to put it on Noah, or have 2 of them on the other RL nikkes

[spare fox]

Mine is 8 atm

[coarse lake]

then quantum on anyone other than sanis is fine

[spare fox]

Gotcha

Lemme set it up

Won't Liter slow things down a lot in team 1 though? I have no better options?

[coarse lake]

liter is for buffing, team is still fine, 3RL, likely to become 2.5RL

I don't see xanne, so your only other option for buffing is poli, which is a weaker buff

[spare fox]

Gotcha fair enough

[coarse lake]

you can use her if you want, esp if poli's burst is decently high lvl

[spare fox]

Nah poli is like 1/1/1 lmao

I didn't even consider that I don't have to reburst with Tia if I just make the other b1 go first

[coarse lake]

yeah in 95% of cases you do not want tia to burst

[spare fox]

Just so used to using Tia first in manual gameplay that I forgot you don't have to do that lmao

Thanks for the help, hopefully this defense works 🙏🏻

[copper creek]

**sp - def : **
blanc/rh/noir/viper/centi
noah/noise/s.anis/biscuit/tia
jackal/scarlet/scalter/poli/alice

**min. invest : **
s.anis - 7/7/9 (min.) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube
poli - burst to 4

quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel

tempering cube (not urgent, take your time with this) at your own discretion,
priority: noah > blanc > other def taunters & units as required.

**please include in your wishlist : **
-

i do not advise running def teams on atk :
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order.

[coarse lake]

they got jackal

[spare fox]

Appreciate this as well, no Emilia though. I'll try out these teams if the ones Eon gave me don't work

[copper creek]

wait they got jackal?

[spare fox]

Yeah I have her

[copper creek]

edited

[spare fox]

So you have 4 teams there now, so I should just pick the 3 I can do the best? Ah there we go

[copper creek]

the f is this app

[spare fox]

Lmao

[tawny vine]

30% frame secured

[lone sequoia]

30%frame?

[coarse lake]

[tawny vine]

the mirror frame - only got 1.1b lmao

[rich quail]

Better than my 800m

[lone sequoia]

but 30%frame?

[rich quail]

I’d have to check lol hold on

[coarse lake]

you're probably ok for 30%

[rich quail]

I’ll do my last runs for today but my teams are so bad lol

Least I can do is break 1bil

About how much is 1.0% rn in points?

[lone sequoia]

that the server has less people now, it is harder to get good ranks

[rich quail]

Because that’s 1800 gems compared to the 900 I can earn if I do nothing

[coarse lake]

1% is pretty high, like 3bil+

[rich quail]

oof

I think I’ll be okay with just doing a few runs to 1 bil then lol

[glad meteor]

Depends on servers, jp server is way more competitive iirc

[rich quail]

Yeah they are

I showed you a pic… how do the top players compare to your region?

[coarse lake]

NA

[lone sequoia]

no kira?

[velvet sky]

with that score they all would be near 50th instead of top 5 kekw

in jp

[coarse lake]

not yet

I think kira's still cookin', he's not in top 50

or maybe waiting for zwei

high invest zwei will likely make a difference by letting a team break slippers

[glad meteor]

Global

[lone sequoia]

NA from "the most competitive server" to "we enjoy being casual players"

[pastel narwhal]

why didn't they just based the % on server brackets instead of the entire region... day1 nikke players won't even break a sweat with a huge advantage

[lone sequoia]

less people everyday

[glad meteor]

None of these pvp modes are made to be fair

[pastel narwhal]

i mean for SR

[glad meteor]

Yh, sr is pvp technically

Well no, i meant competitive game modes

[lone sequoia]

SR don't count all the accounts, that is the problem

but with that system people would create an account every day

[grizzled bone]

what region is this?

[summer copper]

but like, if a 7 day old account could get the same rewards as a day 1 account for much less effort then what would even be the point?

[velvet sky]

jp(ain)

[glad meteor]

That’s impossible, the main point is it takes forever to invest in raid nikkes to get top rankings if you start new it’s pretty much impossible to catch up without spending a lot.

And then there’s seasonal units like xlud and sanis

Especially with how long gear overloads take

[dim sapphire]

Whats the comp for global

Top 1 to 3

[umbral crown]

Now you open your wallet, ez win

[dim sapphire]

2b was the answer…

Need to stop resetting. This is bad behavior lol

[grizzled bone]

high invest 2b

[dim sapphire]

Dont see in our top board using 2b in NA right now

[velvet sky]

after 11 flops in a row
doll for blanc it is then

[coarse lake]

very curious to see what kira cooks up

[pastel narwhal]

good lord 7core 2b

[pastel narwhal]

this whale isn't whaling anymore it seems , we're just about equal cp

[umbral crown]

Waos

Be the whale

[pastel narwhal]

it's all about tactical message

[umbral crown]

It is

Hahaha

[pastel narwhal]

and some mind games

[rich quail]

Welp, the only things I do well are upgrading anything but Elysion units, and Tetra Tower

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Mine similar but misislis...

[grizzled bone]

cant upgrade elysion units if you dont have any

[rich quail]

EXACTLY

[fading heath]

I tried again today using:

T1: Noah/Noise/Scarlet:Black Shadow/Anis/Jackal (Same team, no change in positions)
T2: Blanc/Biscuit/Emilia/Red Hood/Centi (Same team, changed Emi from P2 to P3)

I figured the opponent Emilia would do crazy dmg on my P1 and P2, so Biscuit s2 activates on blanc and biscuit dies midway, but I had enough energy for burst so Blanc went indom on Emilia as planned. It went even better since the opponent bursted first

[rich quail]

And Zwei isn’t gonna move the needle

[lone sequoia]

win?

[fading heath]

Yeah won

[lone sequoia]

so i did nothing

[rich quail]

I might be able to salvage Missilis if I get LaPlus going

[worthy knoll]

Mine had my avatar plastered in all of it since last New Year.. smh the last active one who was winning in Pilgrim and Missilis quit during that time.. I hope its not coz I bully him all the time on SP

[rich quail]

You make people quit Nikke @worthy knoll how could you

[coarse lake]

ein carries missilis for me now

[fading heath]

you did, I was brooding about Emilia dying but the positioning for your recommended 2nd team gave me an insight to change position of my Emilia

Because S.Anis was in the middle

[worthy knoll]

Was it the same guy where your Nero lost? Coz it might just be a difference of SAnis quality if its a different player

[lone sequoia]

lvl3 damage reduction cube+rapu with healing cube

[glacial lion]

3rl moran biscuit sanis mostly just to fight against other sanis?

[worthy knoll]

Well at least the damage is not much as worse as before. Though your Nero is still not healing

[lone sequoia]

need more lvl for damage reduction cube/healing cube, SR puppet on nero and gear lv+ effects...

[worthy knoll]

Man I was having this hate back then like.. why this guy having so many Pilgrims while I'm stuck with just a single Haran

I can't even compete in Pilgrim tower coz there is a minumum number of units required iirc 🤔

[coarse lake]

no it's power req

you can't do a stage if you have less than half the recommended power

like it doesn't let you in

[velvet sky]

[worthy knoll]

Oh so that was why, well I still think of it as needing more units to increase power

[coarse lake]

I ran into that issue with mod early on

[worthy knoll]

Well it was so far back then, I can't find the screenshot of the exact warning.. I was like, cmon at least let me battle even if I don't burst

Only time I was able to start Pilgrim tower is when I got Rapu and Noah.. though I was running like Rapu Noah Harran smh

[rich quail]

I wish this game could tell you exactly when you got certain Nikkes

I forgot who I ran Pilgrim Tower with first, but I’m sure it was Harran, Noah and Isabel

[velvet sky]

doro rapu scarlet & sw

well without doro at first bc she wasn’t released yet

[rich quail]

lol this guy usually knocks me off def because he cp gaps me (the guy named トレーサー), but I guess once in a while he gets caught being lazy with team choices and slips up

He’s one of my 3 bullies

[grizzled bone]

if they're trying to CP gap then they likely have some holes in their teams if they're not whaling

what drives me mad in my bracket is that the top 2 whales are probably beatable but the stronger ones in my bracket dont attack them

[rich quail]

Yeah, I’ve seen questionable choices in their defenses, so I would think they don’t have the solid knowledge to consistently do well in even cp matches

I see them get knocked down to d4-d5, so sometimes they go after me instead of rematching whomever they got knocked down by

But they know I always rematch them, so I hope eventually they’ll learn that they should really find another person to pick on 😂

[glacial lion]

Cant nuke him with sakura + ros

[rich quail]

Yeah Xanne thwarts Rosanna a little

[grizzled bone]

no noah?

[glacial lion]

Its 3v3... She in other team

[warm monolith]

Guys i need 3 teams for pvp arena,any suggestions?

[glacial lion]

its worse, my sbs not die fast enough to trigger ros s2 cuz dmg reduce from sr doll lvl15

[rich quail]

I dunno if this is the case, but I heard some whales quit because of lack of game content to whale for

[lunar pawn]

What's an alternative to this SR team then? Volume/dolla at 4/4/4 no OL, dkw and liter are taken already
Volume blanc RH scarlet noir

[rich quail]

If your sbs dies I dunno if Rosie and SSakura are enough to finish off a team if your offense isn’t built to last

[coarse lake]

you can prob use bay lol

[glacial lion]

i cant cuz cp gap

[coarse lake]

what's the matchup where you're using noah

[rich quail]

But yeah, dolls are tricky… as much as I wanna SR15 everyone it changes how lineups work if some units are too tanky

You need like a Mast that is built to die easy

[coarse lake]

you win anyway

it's not like the dude will know whether you beat him 3-0 or 2-1, so you can't even use it to exert dominance

just settle for 2 consistent wins

you can take blanc out of your t3, she isn't doing much except buffing, indom isn't going to sanis anyway

use a blanc emi comp for t2 with p5 defender

so that frees up noah for t1

can probably use poli instead of blanc for t3

[rich quail]

Yeah a win’s a win.

Man I think I will shoot for SR15 doll on Scarlet

She’s way too squishy nowadays. Probably best to buff her as much as you can and not worry too much about relying on indom… dunno

What do you guys think about Scarlet? Too squishy?

[coarse lake]

she's squishy if you run her against another scarlet

but otherwise she should be fine for what she does, as long as she's linked

if you really have sustain issues run a noise or rapunzel b1

but if you don't run or plan to run indom scarlet, then sure get her doll up

[rich quail]

Yeah, my Scarlet isn’t linked

I have to fix it via stat lines

[glad meteor]

Level gap maybe

[rich quail]

That too… I run into a lot of cp gapping opponents

So my Scarlet suffers

[glacial lion]

you saw my ss earlier right? 30lvl gap... not many choice for me here for cp padding...

[grizzled bone]

you should get biscuit and anis in your synchro when you can. Anyone wanna cook this one?

[coarse lake]

then just accept a 2-1 win

[raven plover]

I like her squishy cus I need her to die on my def

still no doll

[rich quail]

@raven plover That’s what I tried yesterday and Scarlet did die as planned, but I lost to aoe by Bunny Soda

[glad meteor]

At 200 synchro dolls make s big difference

[glacial lion]

pvp queen slowly turn to best pos1 sac...

[rich quail]

That was on me, but I understand what you’re saying. Sometimes the sac is good if you don’t have to worry about nuke

[glad meteor]

Laplace+ does a lot of splash damage

[wise horizon]

Any advice? @coarse lake

[rich quail]

But I think Scarlet with SR15 doll would be a good ruse on def

Depends on the team setup

Fake sac

[coarse lake]

is this the rapunzel-less acc

[wise horizon]

Yeah. Noah but don’t have rapunzel

[rich quail]

Isn’t it just the target and one space adjacent? Or is it target and splash on each side?

[glad meteor]

Anyone tried emilia/laplace/vesti with full sr doll, a2 would be better

Yh, Depends if residual or you skip and laplace targets p2, it can do a lot of damage

I don’t know about her splash range, just that it does a lot damage, assuming normal rl since I don’t have her

[rich quail]

Man, I’m hoping to get LaPlus soon, then

Still beefing up her R doll before upgrading to SR

[glad meteor]

With elemental rolls, biscuit and noise are in danger

[raven plover]

put SR doll

[coarse lake]

T1 (Against Sanis): Noah/Biscuit/Emilia/RH/Tia
T2: Skip
T3 (Against Emilia): Bscar/Noise/Blanc/Crown/Jackal (Assumes noise has higher atk than blanc and crown)

[grizzled bone]

warning: i am not a great cook

team 1 noah-alice-naga-tia-jackal
team 2 bay-poli-priv-laplace-volume
team 3 blanc-maid priv-noir-bun soda-ludmilla

[copper creek]

wooooooohoooooooo

[warm monolith]

Thanks bro

[rich quail]

Oh wait, my Laplace already has SR doll Phase 5

[grizzled bone]

lol i started working on laplace doll but forgot i need MLB

[raven plover]

you only need lb 2 right

[coarse lake]

yeah

[raven plover]

for max bond

[rich quail]

She’s 1/1/2 tho

Of course I’ll get her to 4/4/10 once I finish getting Emilia to 7/10/10

[coarse lake]

4/4/4 is prob fine

for pvp

[glad meteor]

Quiry second round burst cooking

[rich quail]

Yeah definitely will get her to 4/4/4 but I will gradually do b10 for pvp backup purposes (in case main b3 dies on Laplace’s team) and for pve

I need to focus on stall team after Emilia anyway

[coarse lake]

I don't think max lappy burst is even that usable, I personally wouldn't sink that investment unless you plan to use her in raids or something

[rich quail]

I do want to get better at raids

[coarse lake]

actually lappy's s2 is better invest for pvp

[copper creek]

just 444 first

then figure out from there

[rich quail]

Okay, 4/4/4 very doable

I’m more worried about getting her to OL+0 at least

But she should have OL+5 right?

[copper creek]

its like trying to scratch your balls but i dont know what you're working with - if i have a scratcher or a sharp ice pick, it can go very differently

[copper creek]

just ol+0 first, + some more if u need

[wise horizon]

Thanks. I will try it when I get home

[copper creek]

i meant scratch your back but eh we'll stick with this

[rich quail]

No the first analogy is best 😂

What cube is best for Laplace+ in pvp?

[coarse lake]

probably quantum + the typical resil/bastion or whatever else

[grizzled bone]

That T1 might work better on T2. Moran soft counters Scarlet

[coarse lake]

you will lose your t3 matchup

I would avoid it with your current setup

use your sanis team against their sanis, use your scarlet team (Scarlet/Blanc/Liter/Anis/Bsoda) against RH

[umbral crown]

In #team-building you can get your answer

[lunar pawn]

too many channels to keep up

[umbral crown]

Haha i imagine

[coarse lake]

ig your indom went to someone else?

ah

well I'm not sure what else you can do with your units, you don't have a biscuit to block SGs

[umbral crown]

[glad meteor]

snipers incoming

[umbral crown]

@keen vapor go snipe that 381 boi

[keen vapor]

Not yet

[umbral crown]

1 min before?

[trail inlet]

sniping SR leaderboard?

or am i mistaken

[copper creek]

spa before maint 🤣

[trail inlet]

ahh

[copper creek]

go smack the brasilian bro 🤣

[trail inlet]

nah cba

wanna save attempts for funny stuff

[copper creek]

🤣

[trail inlet]

idk whats going on in 4-10th place

[copper creek]

oh

[trail inlet]

they changing so much

[copper creek]

theyre going at it yea

[trail inlet]

but yeah bb and ashen basically gave up on me

[copper creek]

lol

[trail inlet]

im building a 3rd team

[copper creek]

they want a taste of me now

[trail inlet]

of moran/noise/sanis/biscuit/centi

any thoughts?

[copper creek]

also its not 4-10
everyone from diamond3 to c4 all hitting each other

[trail inlet]

true

[copper creek]

ehh

personally i dont like moran on def cuz its just begging to be nuked

[trail inlet]

yeah but i dont have scarjack .-.

my 3rd team would be a scarjack if i had scarlet

so idk

[copper creek]

you could just hmm

have u seen my current def

[trail inlet]

t1: noah
t2: blanc
t3: biscuit + ?

yeah

you have a scarjack no?

[copper creek]

yea but instead of scarjack
its mpriv/something x3/jackal

[trail inlet]

naaah my mpriv is like 5/5/5

[copper creek]

then when u get scar

[trail inlet]

gonna be a wet noodle

[copper creek]

yeah enough, i ran a 4/4/4 mpriv

2 buffer mpriv is enough

or alternatively just do the

[trail inlet]

dolls didnt exist back then no?

[copper creek]

doesnt matter, only rapossu playing pvp investment

[trail inlet]

tbf whatever if i make nuke team that only forces out noah

[copper creek]

anyway yea i wouldnt moran our current bracket

our def

[trail inlet]

def is cooked anyways

[copper creek]

we just need to antinuke

brasil and china keeps investing and trying nukes on atk

one blanc here, one noah there, one bay somewhere else

and they cant make anything work lol

[trail inlet]

how much bay invest

just 4/4/4?

[copper creek]

i used 1/1/1 🤣

[umbral crown]

[trail inlet]

yeah biscuit buffs noise and sanis

for heals and invul for moran

but idk

emilia nuke go boom

[copper creek]

but yea for us i think we just need

[trail inlet]

[copper creek]

prevent nukes

or tbf we got something going for us

[devout falcon]

opening my battle data its over bracket

[copper creek]

we cp gap everyone else lol

[trail inlet]

well my def team is currently

t1: noah/noise/sanis/biscuit/centi

t2: bscar/blanc/RH/anis/jackal

[copper creek]

centi -> rapunzel, she dont need centi to be 3rl anymore

[trail inlet]

t3: 400k cp gap

[umbral crown]

[copper creek]

then t2 u can put centi in place of anis

[trail inlet]

yeah but my rapunzel is 10k lower cp than my centi

and my centi and anis have basically same cp

which is kinda funny

[copper creek]

the worry about anis is

[trail inlet]

oh yeah

[copper creek]

i scared ur anis take blanc indom

[trail inlet]

probs should swap

sec

[glad meteor]

Bscar gets target skipped on def probably

[copper creek]

i kinda feelbad for them lol

i dont have a proper cp gap team

[trail inlet]

nah its fine i have jackal link

[copper creek]

but its ok cuz i have 3 built def teams

[trail inlet]

she is lowest hp out of RH/bscar/jackal

[copper creek]

9x SR doll idk what they gonna do about it

[glad meteor]

Main problem is blanc dying, but that just normal without biscuit

[trail inlet]

p2 blanc usually is fine

cuz only rockets hit

[glad meteor]

Yh. Unless target skip

[trail inlet]

yeah random bs :p\

[copper creek]

anyway u dont need to worry about def

nobody can touch us on def lol

[umbral crown]

munch got you

[umbral crown]

[trail inlet]

eh everyone in the bracket gave up on me

[copper creek]

realistically speaking the only person contending with us is one brazilian

the others? even if they hit us so what

not like u cant smack them back on atk lol

[glad meteor]

No cn pvp mains

[trail inlet]

eh i can win against rapossu as well

but its whatever

maybe i should fight him

[copper creek]

wait til he get his 301 buff

[trail inlet]

he is on 301

[copper creek]

then we might have headache :kekw:

[trail inlet]

he went from 970k to 1001k

[copper creek]

oh? eh not like it matters

[trail inlet]

Xd

[umbral crown]

that good is 301 ¡

[copper creek]

is that why everybody hitting me now

because im the only one without 1mil cp def

[umbral crown]

?

[trail inlet]

lol only c4 can hit you its chill

[copper creek]

every 20th level theres big step up
so 21, 41, ...

[copper creek]

4 and 5 both trying

[umbral crown]

but i mean at 301

[velvet sky]

i should start writing down which whale i beat with what bc they all have different teams now time to sleep bc I’m feeling very ded

[glad meteor]

Higher synchro means tankier units with how attack and hp scale differently. Nuke weaker

[umbral crown]

wait 9 more mins

[copper creek]

301 not specifically
its just that im on the cusp of cp gap so whenever he has a bonus that i dont its scary

[umbral crown]

lets support rapossu to keep your bracket alive

[trail inlet]

nah that guy is chillin

[copper creek]

nah hes chilling

[trail inlet]

he only acts up if i hit him

[umbral crown]

is he

is he at C2?

[trail inlet]

im content with c3 anyways

[umbral crown]

3k gems ez

[copper creek]

yea, im in c1, hes 2, leo in 3

[glad meteor]

5 mins till snipes

[velvet sky]

i don’t have snipers there haha the only sniper is me

but will keep an eye on it before dying

[clear depot]

Guys, this set up could win the match?

[trail inlet]

SR should be chill tho right? im at 1.5% no way it goes up to 3% :o

[umbral crown]

I do not think snipers will come for me uwu

[trail inlet]

t2 noah could get melted

[umbral crown]

[worthy knoll]

More like T2 is on penalty

[copper creek]

u're safe

[trail inlet]

and t3 indom goes to probs noise which is bad against a bscar

[worthy knoll]

That is T2 T3 not T1 T2

[trail inlet]

oops mb

[copper creek]

t2 penalty
t3 no

[clear depot]

Against bscar noise indom always worked for me somehow xd but i agree about noah

damn then i wont snipe anythng

xd

[trail inlet]

bscar damage only gets nullified against invul, not indom

[copper creek]

ure too late to snipe anyway

[trail inlet]

^

[copper creek]

lol

ok thats :45
its done

[trail inlet]

well maintenance time :o

[copper creek]

go sleep bro

[keen vapor]

Snipe failed @umbral crown

[umbral crown]

echo never snipe

[worthy knoll]

Still got 30s

[umbral crown]

with that level gap i no wonder

[worthy knoll]

For some reason its on 01 minute instead of exactly 00 today

[keen vapor]

I used core dust to level up two times

He isn't even at high advantage

He is 257 or something

[worthy knoll]

Okay got kicked out now

[trail inlet]

my sleep schedule is cooked

[keen vapor]

I tried again at 238

[trail inlet]

might as well stay awake

[keen vapor]

I just can't anymore for some reason

@umbral crown I'm sad

[velvet sky]

/drops dead/

[umbral crown]

how are you failingagainst that boy

[trail inlet]

win by 💳

whale some core dust packs :p

[keen vapor]

I don't know

[umbral crown]

echo is saving for nikke 100

[trail inlet]

bruh

[umbral crown]

with thousands of CD boxes

[trail inlet]

??????? why

[umbral crown]

for nikke 100

[trail inlet]

more lvls -> more campaign -> more core dust/hr -> more core dust per box

[umbral crown]

thats why

[trail inlet]

literally cooking yourself alive no?

[umbral crown]

or for when game anounce EoS he will stream opening boxes

[umbral crown]

imagine 233 fightinng 281

[rich quail]

Most def to OL+0

[velvet sky]

i did 4/4 them purely for more cp

[trail inlet]

[rich quail]

It makes a world of difference

[trail inlet]

yeah cp on burst gen units is always good

[glad meteor]

They have low feed too. But can whiff

[worthy lake]

If u ask me... centi yes, OG anis no.

But there are people who OL OG anis so yeah

[keen vapor]

I could if I had Noah

[trail inlet]

my og anis has 3 OL parts

[trail inlet]

ill swap you a noah for a scarlet deal?

[umbral crown]

noah is just 1 team, what about the other 2

[worthy knoll]

If we get another Clip RL, ~~then maybe OG Anis can kick the bucket ~~

[keen vapor]

I just need two

The other is Blanc

[rich quail]

OL +0 on Anis is helping me choose her with confidence because she won’t immediately die

[keen vapor]

I only have one

[glad meteor]

2 RL nukes not strong enough

[trail inlet]

go 2RL red hood

[rich quail]

I think mine does as well. She’s higher than my Rapu and Centi at the moment if I remember correctly

[worthy lake]

Forgot its maintenance , no wonder I cant open the game

[trail inlet]

well my mpriv has less atk than my liter sooooooooooo

[glad meteor]

Global cooking

[worthy lake]

You OL 4 of her gear ?

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

I believe 3 of them and will do the 4th eventually

Can always use a clip RL

[worthy knoll]

My Anis also all OLed max lvl

[rich quail]

My dream

OL+5 Anis

[worthy lake]

Thats fully focused pvp brother

respect !

[glad meteor]

2 RL emi comps for those pesky rosannas

[rich quail]

I want Anis to deny those Blanc indoms

[worthy knoll]

#pvp-arena message

I'm already crazy enough to do this, what is just OLing and leveling Anis gears

Tbf, all my pvp units gears are max

[rich quail]

@worthy knoll I gotta ask, what’s Quiry’s best cube for pvp?

[trail inlet]

10/10/10 quiry and nero

wish i had skill manuals to spare

then i can meme

[rich quail]

Is it Vigor or Healing? Or something else?

[trail inlet]

pretty sure for quiry healing is best then vigor

[worthy knoll]

Mmh healing prolly best but Vigor if you want a mix of survivability and heal, but I use Quantum on mine to get some BG since she is already like Emi21 on her OL CS lines

[rich quail]

Interesting… I will think about it

Thanks

I’m hoping to start investing in a Nero and Quiry soon, and I know it’s gonna be a grind… planning to 10/10/10 both and see about at least going OL+0 on gear

OL+5 prolly better I assume?

[umbral crown]

[worthy knoll]

Well for them to be useful, you don't need to 10 10 10 like me..

For Nero only S1 and S2 matters, S1 > S2 though.

For Quiry, it is just the burst.

[rich quail]

[worthy knoll]

Though Quiry S1 is also good for some atk down debuff but not really necessary

[lunar pawn]

pvp bros, please ping me when you learn zwei's burst gen

[rich quail]

I think I’ll cover at least the essentials, then slowly work my way up

Thanks @worthy knoll

[grizzled bone]

are you going for the meme team?

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

Mostly
My goal is to make this team (or something better)
Moran/Nero/Quiry/S.Anis/Rapunzel

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

I could replace S.Anis with any dps but that’s my goal

[grizzled bone]

i was relooking at Nero's kit yesterday and i found it intriguing

although Keripo recos pairing with biscuit

[umbral crown]

#iTrustKeripo

[grizzled bone]

been praying for Moran on the wishlist

[rich quail]

#InKeripoWeTrust

I would probably replace S.Anis with S.Sakura if it was feasible

I know she is good with the slow burn deaths against certain teams, but I dunno if she is effective as the main dps of a stall team

[lunar pawn]

the thing is, sakura loses vs stall

you'd need a main dps to pair her with

[rich quail]

Ah okay, I was wondering because I remember Biscuit + Defender is a weakness, right?

[worthy knoll]

#pvp-arena message

[lunar pawn]

yea, noah also blocks her dot

[rich quail]

So maybe S.Sakura’s good when Noah shoots her shot and Sakura gets resurrected to finish them off
I’m… I’m sold!

[umbral crown]

not her S2 since it start at the beginning of the battle

[rich quail]

lol But yeah I was curious if S.Sakura could work

If you keep S.Sakura weak and purposely had her resurrect, does S2 reset?

[worthy knoll]

She is actually bugged(or maybe its a feature) right now that if SSakura burst quicker than Noah, like just .1s quicker than her. All of her 10 hits will hit even if Noah shield animation is showing up and the hits are delayed, they still get damaged

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

Didn’t you say that Quiry has quantum cube on your team?

[worthy knoll]

You can prolly think of her like a Nuke like Scarlet, Maiden, etc. that even though it hits with delay, as long she burst quicker than Noah, you can say all her burst already hit during that time, but it got delayed

[lunar pawn]

interesting

[worthy knoll]

Yeah I did, I was trying to get some small amount of BG just to make it slightly quicker since that team is already so slow, will prolly replace it once I get Laplace+ though

[rich quail]

Oh ho ho

That would be great to have more burst gen for a team like that

[spiral onyx]

Nero is super interesting in her kit... Huge self HP buff, taunt, self damage reduction, increase self heals received, and even a Scarlet type counter.

But unfortunately there's some pitfalls which we currently don't have the right units to work around with for PvP. For one, there's currently no effective way to proc Nero's heals received buff on burst, there's just not enough sources of heals. Second is her burst gen is abysmal so she needs heavy burst gen support from the rest of the team. Third is her counter damage is still pretty low and not really game changing. I think she had a lot of potential but was undertweaked, resulting in the other B2 options being much better. In all honesty, it feels like Moran was the spiritual successor and done right.

[rich quail]

It’s hard to choose who to replace, though

Unless you replace S.Sakura with Laplace+

[spiral onyx]

This is more an issue on Noah's shield being delayed. I've seen cases where a slightly-faster-than 3RL Scarlet lands the nuke while a 2.5RL Noah is mid animation.

[worthy knoll]

Yeah, only Rapu atm, so if plan to use Nero, can't separate from Rapu.. as for the S2.. she can actually kill SAnis from time to time

[worthy knoll]

I meant that SSakura, logically one would think the moment Noah gets her shield up in between those 10 hit sequence, there should not be any damage since its called invulnerability.. but they still gets damaged since the burst was already set to hit the moment it was released but the animation of her hits was delayed since it was made sequentially.

[grizzled bone]

I've been blessed by Keripo. Thanks for chiming in!

[worthy knoll]

@spiral onyx example of an SAnis dying from Nero counter

[spiral onyx]

I do really wish animation delay was disabled for PvP such that everything in instantaneous. Would make testing and theorycrafting much easier and eliminate a lot of bugs

[spiral onyx]

Lmao that's some slow death. Their fault for not bursting with Biscuit

[rich quail]

Maybe it’s like if you got chased by a swarm of bees, and you run inside a house and close the door

If the swarm of bees get in your house before you close the door, you still get stung

[worthy knoll]

I mean ofc won't match it like that if they were bursting with Biscuit

[spiral onyx]

Honestly I don't get the idea of pairing Noah with Biscuit. Sure it works, but like, opportunity cost. Both are top tier B2s in their own right and you waste them on a single team?

[worthy knoll]

I know thy limits of that team

I use that when its an SAnis Noah team..

If its an Biscuit > SAnis team I just simply Scar Jack it

[spiral onyx]

It's like putting Scarlet in your PvP team but not bursting with her and instead using her for her high auto attacks. Like sure, yes she does have high autos, but what a waste

Blanc Biscuit has me feeling the same way. Biscuit has so many benefits in her kit that makes her ideal for pairing with SAnis but you instead throw her in a completely separate team just to utilize 1/4th of her kit

If we had 100 PvP units to pick from, that's fine, but we don't

[umbral crown]

[rich quail]

I usually treat S.Anis and Biscuit as inseparable

That way, if I also use a Blanc or a Noah on that team, I still maximize Biscuit’s kit

[worthy knoll]

Well Biscuit S2 is really like actually her bread and butter and her burst is like an add on that if you can use it while able to proc S2 then better.. if we get like a B1 Noah then Biscuit will prolly be able to maximize her kit

[rich quail]

Sorry, I get it now. Biscuit’s burst

[worthy knoll]

Though I'm interest on a B1 that either makes cover invulnerable or highly increase cover damage reduction, wonder if it will make Bay more attractive as B2 to use instead of Noah

[umbral crown]

is not zwei something like that?

[worthy knoll]

It just recover hp, not protect it

[spiral onyx]

No, Zwei's kit is already out. I don't see any potential from her for PvP unless she's done crazy double shot clip SG.

[worthy knoll]

I mean like if cover got one hit, nothing left to heal anyway

[spiral onyx]

Which is possible cause it's suspicious that they only just now noticed Noah's missing double shot

[coarse lake]

her autos dmg isn't even double, her multis just got split between her weapons

and pellets seem to be the same, seems like it's 5 pellets per gun

[rich quail]

Boo
no double shot?
Easy skip then

[coarse lake]

is SG burst gen based on pellet hit count?

if so, she might just still be regular SG burst gen at worst

[spiral onyx]

Eh so it's still 10 pellets per attack?

[coarse lake]

from the vids we see, it seems like 10 pellets yeah

[worthy knoll]

Zwei Diesel team for PVE pierce?

[coarse lake]

10 total

but it could just be animation, and that each pellet is a double hit

[worthy knoll]

Or maybe Zwei with JK and pierce B3 units, since Naga also gets pierce on burst

[rich quail]

I would like to try Alice Zwei

[spiral onyx]

SG burst gen is a certain percentage per hit. That percentage is balanced for PvE based on stuff like frequency of reload. That's why clip RL/SGs have such high burst gen.

It's balanced for long PvE autobattles

But PvP is short and frontloaded

This is also why manually shooting with a RL/SR in PvE lets you build burst gen really fast. The burst gen per hit is fixed and calculated with the assumption that you are charging the full shot. But if you release early, you get the full burst gen in less time spent

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

after all keripo explanation i feel i could free noah from my SP

[rich quail]

Maybe the best Noah is Noah without Biscuit

[coarse lake]

just make sure your noah is tanky enough to live

[rich quail]

SR15 with all OL+5

Super thicc Noah

[coarse lake]

I should probably work on making noah thicc at some point

my biscuit is used just to make sure noah lives to burst

[copper creek]

a

[rich quail]

I use Biscuit mainly for S.Anis, but I think Noah still has good uses

[coarse lake]

but then again my moran isn't really built yet either, so it's not like I'm in a hurry to run sanis biscuit teams without noah

that's a lot of crust

[rich quail]

Same
My Moran is 5/7/5 and her gear isn’t OL yet

[coarse lake]

I still haven't used sanis in pvp yet lol

pvp def teams unchanged, no use case so far on attack

[rich quail]

S.Anis I want to use as much as possible because I invested the most on her

She’s fun to see in action but I still feel very tentative to use on def

[coarse lake]

I'm in no hurry, until my bracket figures out how to beat current one

my def is so effective against ppl 4 and lower that one of the other guys in top 3 with me just copied my team a while ago, and so now we run basically the exact same def teams in the same order

our top 3 is like a bubble from the rest of the bracket

[copper creek]

CHEERS FRIENDS WOOO

[coarse lake]

none of us has dropped below top 3 in many many months

as a result it's pretty chill, no real stakes, no gemming

bro's gonna reach 1k before the end of this month at this rate

[rich quail]

Mine, I have to bide my time because of the huge cp deficit that I have

And I played every day since I started, but I wasn’t utilizing my resources wisely until I came here 4-5 months ago

So I know I can’t just shoot up to c8 and beyond because most people can smack me down by fielding even the most basic roster

[umbral crown]

same in mind, everything s chill

just loggind to collect points

[grizzled bone]

mods are asleep post food

[umbral crown]

this is the only safe channel

we fine

[umbral crown]

i want

[copper creek]

a

[rich quail]

Mine is not so chill but I rather fight often than be bored

[umbral crown]

i see spanish word

but also something really good

[unique mountain]

Spanish or english

[grizzled bone]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-why-are-you-gay-pepe-julian-who-is-gay-you-are-gay-gif-15004128

[umbral crown]

spanish

casa is home or house

depend the context

[rich quail]

mi casa es su casa

[umbral crown]

si

hahaha

[copper creek]

i had 2 of these already 🤣

[rich quail]

lol
I forgot most of the Spanish I studied in high school

[umbral crown]

its all about sending a message

[obtuse crest]

What skill and are Nero need overload for this team?

[worthy knoll]

Mine was all max skills, OL gears all max with 4 atk lines, has SR doll and tempering cube

[obtuse crest]

Tempering lvl minimum?

[worthy knoll]

Yeah I guess minimum is enough.. the one on the vid is lvl 2 skill one tho

[obtuse crest]

And nero just worth when i have rapunzel?

[worthy knoll]

Yeah fully dependent on Rapunzel

That is the downside of using her unless shift up gives another unit that heals without needing to burst and is quick

or gives Nero treasure upgrade where she can heal herself, heck even having some indom is also good

[obtuse crest]

Query is dps too?

[worthy knoll]

Heal for the 2 tankers to tank SAnis damage

Though its fine too if you put Biscuit then just burst with another B3, but it is a one fb all in type of fight. You kill them quick before the 2 tankers fall down

[obtuse crest]

Ok

I have question about Moran too

How much she need for invest ol or skill

[worthy knoll]

Something like this

#pvp-arena message

[worthy knoll]

Uhh.. mine is all max too but I guess burst and S2 are the important ones.. with Burst > priority than S2. For OL my gears are max, as for lines I'm not sure but I think def and atk are good ones for her. Mine had 4 def lines though but it was cause of my folly that I thought S1 would count the OL lines, haven't changed it since from then though.. since a week after Moran release

After I'm done tweaking my Noise I'll prolly try to have my Moran have 4 atk lines too 🤔

[obtuse crest]

What is counter team like u use? I think this team very tanky

I see another people use like this and i think i can beat but i can't lol very hard to beat

[worthy knoll]

Err... i don't think anyone use that team on defense aside from me though

Well for starters, Scarlet team can beat it, I use that team coz I want my enemy to use Scarlet against it so my 2 teams won't have to think of fighting Scarlet lineups and also its kinda my CP gap team too

[copper creek]

YESSSSS

[grizzled bone]

I'm munch

[obtuse crest]

Ok so need faster burst so i can win ok

[copper creek]

wait missing something
where is ur drink

[obtuse crest]

Need 3/4 rocket launcher?

[grizzled bone]

I didnt take a pic 😦

[copper creek]

im assuming you are new player

for most new players, dont need weird teams like merry uses

in fact for new players its probably a bad idea to run merry's teams, because they require extremely high invest (that your pve teams would appreciate)

[obtuse crest]

Np maybe when im in end game i can use this formation maybe for my pvp

[worthy knoll]

Hey, don't call them weird

[worthy knoll]

Well kidding aside, I'm kinda curious which player have that exact same team on def on SEA.. coz I'm pretty sure I'm the only one crazy enough to use them as a def team

[crystal flicker]

You don't need end game to do PvP mixmax tho

[copper creek]

you dont, but as a newbie if u throw all ur investment to weird units u probably end up screwed in pvp anyway

because - the most effective thing u can do in pvp, is to have more cp than everyone else (and thus by extension, more sync level)

if u abandon ur pve units, cant push campaign as hard as everyone else, and then end up syncgapped, thats going to be a problem

pvp unit minmax only works when you are the furthest along in campaign compared to everyone else in your bracket

i made that mistake and now its all i can do to catch up lol

[copper creek]

[crystal flicker]

Use PvE units for PvP should be ok for newbie bracket

Even my 3 weeks old bracket feels dying already

[copper creek]

which is exactly what im suggesting, as opposed to going all-in on merry's moran/nero shenanigans lol

[crystal flicker]

That's true

[random granite]

Has anyone tested Zwei burst gen in pvp?

Update is live

[obtuse crest]

Maintenance is end now?

[worthy knoll]

It'll prolly be 1 or 2 years to feel that gap though, I mean like if your 5 dusts/hr gap from pve player, then its like a 120 dusts per day difference.. that it will take like 100 days to get one sync advantage.. Or like 2400(?) core dust boxes.. so if its a 20 sync gap, you'll feel that 20 sync gap in about 2000 days or when they use like 48000 1 hr core dust boxes

[random granite]

Yea currently playing rn

[obtuse crest]

Ok nice information bro

[random granite]

1st multi and already got her

[obtuse crest]

Ok bro i play this game maybe 123 days. So maybe im still newbie just can challenger 8/5 or diamond 1

Thanks for advice

And thanks for tell me about Moran and nero too @worthy knoll

[random granite]

But i have no attempts left in rookie to test

So might wait for someone to test Zwei then

[copper creek]

boxes also

but yea just putting it out there as food for thought

[worthy knoll]

Yeah I mentioned boxes there too.. well boxes of a total of 48000 hrs

[worthy lake]

That was quick

[rich quail]

No puedo enviar mensajes en español.

[coarse thistle]

zwei seems to have same burst gen as pepper....from what i can see on union testing

atleast close enough.

[rich quail]

Yeah don’t do Nero/Moran until you got a lot of your base units leveled the way you need them to compete

Having a great Nero/Quiry team means nothing if you don’t have a strong 2nd team and a decent-enough def to not be a turnstile for any player out there

I know this and that’s why Nero/Quiry is Phase 3 for me, Phase 2 being Rosanna/Emilia and fortifying my supports and defenders

And I’ve been playing for a year in total. Can’t shortcut stuff unless you spend spend spend

Sorry I said too much

I lie down now

[raven plover]

clip sg?

[pastel narwhal]

2 rocks in the free costume gacha

[rich quail]

wat
Is that what you got?

I got 5 of those bond tickets

[pastel narwhal]

yeah, first time getting something worthwhile in there

[rich quail]

Congratssssss

I hope you get some good lines on your gear

[pastel narwhal]

I'm not gambling on those for now will play it safe by OL'ing my other nikkes first

[rich quail]

Solid decision
go for the sure thing

[pastel narwhal]

[glacial lion]

try to use her alone against gd (S), and count how many bullets she need to fill burst gauge alone
and do it with any clip sg too

[coarse thistle]

nvm. zwei burst gen is worse than pepper

[lunar dirge]

zwei as rh/alice buffer potential?

[coarse thistle]

it took roughly 4 mags for zwei..and pepper roughly 3 mags..

for full burst

[grizzled bone]

is maintenance done?

[coarse thistle]

yea

[copper creek]

long done brotha

[grizzled bone]

event music kinda goes hard

[viral spoke]

its unfortunate that me reaching top 3 dream isn't last long 💀

probably will go down to rank 20 by tonight

[halcyon sinew]

just one rock

[lunar pawn]

Pvp bros, what's zwei burst gen like?

[pastel narwhal]

time to 🐳

[gaunt cypress]

she's slightly better than normal SG

[lunar pawn]

double shotgun and still mid burst gen

[nimble pelican]

Would appreciate some help please, do I have any chance of beating this guy?

My squads will need changing, this is just what I was using previously with 1 extra high power team in case someone had a low power team i could win outright

My units as well in case i should swap some in and out

[random granite]

Same as Nilhillister

[pastel narwhal]

[serene orbit]

Could someone help setup SP defense?

[umbral crown]

[umbral crown]

Noah/Noise/S.Anis/Biscuit/Rapunzel

Scarlet/SBS/Bay/Liter/Jackal

Blanc/Emilia/Red Hood/Noir/Centi

[rich quail]

@spiral onyx @worn field

[pastel narwhal]

zwei misses? or the whole team missed cause of zwei?

[rich quail]

p5 only I believe (Zwei)
It may be Zwei or it may be sg specific now

I don’t know how to test but maybe someone here can

[pastel narwhal]

Zwei could be Pascal 2.0

[rich quail]

Yeah pretty much. Clearly says she shoots too early and misses

[mighty haven]

Would I be able to get some suggestions on SP defence with my current Nikkes? Usually hovering around Diamond 1, need to fight back to retain it with current comps

[glad meteor]

I’m pretty sure this one person has spent like 3000 gems on me the last 2 weeks

Messages being sent…

[umbral crown]