#pvp-arena
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that's the 1 thing I don't do. Early habit I never broke from beginning
I do it
I admit it
Do it
one reroll daily hurts 2 third less than a daily discounted pull
Preventing from credit issue from higher levels 
at this point ... in 2030
I do it for the dolls
It can be done for both 
new pvp team cook?

I mean... math wise that checks out but I also don't do discount pulls 
Dispatch also can pay back your gems 
HMM never thought about that
lol wtf hieroglyphics 
You can download Wingdings and decipher the code
Look! This is from today, and still another 15 
is that 155k gems hoarded saved?
zwei use dual sg, she will has more burst gen than other sg?
Hoarded indeed 
alright guess i'll start rerolling dispatches. The PvP can take a backseat this season for me anyway

Just be sure to start the timers for good rolls before paying the 50 gems 

?
you start the timer and then reroll?
If there's a 15 gems there, then I start
Then roll
It will be locked

Now you'll be more efficient 
makes sense. Dispatch for gems, dust, etc
then throw away... stuff... honestly i've been doing auto dispatch for so long i barely look at it
Yeah, I usually choose 6 items I don’t like and exclude them from the dispatch and send it out. Then I reroll the items I had kept out.
I actually recommend you do this
the text is indeed in Wingdings

you should try to decipher it for more clues
ping me if you find clues
For curiosity’s sake

its late for me so good night yall
Keripo s homework for us
like 1:20 am?
We are good students
stalker

Make sure to share the results of your decoding once you're done decoding the whole thing 
been a while since i last seen wingdings
Megane guy from Log Horizon 
She's gonna be a clip RL with higher burst gen than Jackal, trust 
then after C.A starts keripo will enlighten us with his teams here 
or they actually pull a Noah and make her a double shot clip SG
#iTrustKeripo

i think thats why the fix noah and some units before she arrives
...... I DID READ DUAL SMG
BUT IT'S SG?!

BROKEN 
it'll make sense after you decode everything
will I hit them
no way
isn't that only 30k cp diff
what if the level was the same?
I would replace noir with blanc, but otherwise you should be ok
Thank you @coarse lake
It worked, but I saw that my Emilia died before bursting
Not sure what happened
Um lemme check
Never place your main dps B3 near a taunter
@coarse lake 1 line at 4.92%
Noah Biscuit SBS RH Emi should be fine on that team, or even RH B3 is also fine
Ah, okay. I figured it would be hard to choose between Biscuit or Emilia at p2
So you think Noah/Biscuit/SBS/RH/Emi is a better order?
Should I check the cs on the other units?
Ohhhh
Adjutant cube
Noah has it
Yeah against the same enemy yeah, Biscuit is fine to die, enemy has no protection too. Emi bursts, 3s waiting time, she's a sitting duck for that time.. heck prolly a Privaty burst will work just fine too. 
Okay no prob 
What’s a good cube to give her in the meantime?
If the bro knocks me off again (most likely he will) and doesn’t change his teams (most likely he won’t), I’ll run the same setup sans Adjutant on Noah and see if it goes back to normal
vigor, quantum, tempering are all options
Thanks again 
I’ll see what I have available
need SP teams again getting crushed
I'm pretty far behind lost sector still - what's the power for the tempering cube stage?
sure about liter?
I’m not at that Lost Sector, but I’m two sectors below that one. The recommended CP is 365200
she gonna be first b2 nuke pvp?
cool so I'm not gonna think about it then 
I have all nikkes , and i am a pvp novice , can you guys recommend which nikkes should i train first?
love it when stupid whales don’t know how to beat other whales so they wait until i take the spot bc I’m not stupid unlike them and then they jump me 
Skill issue fr
like they could easily beat each other if they didn’t use their def on atk 
but no why think when they can just outcpgap me with their +50 lvls
sometimes i think about just going back to chill in diamond or something.
because yeah not sure why bother attacking when you will never defend all attack comps 
different comp?
just 1 diff team

Share his teams
@coarse lake I told you he’d do it again 😆 (sadly, the kind of people I put up with in my pvp group) Literally the same team, too!
I did the small changes you and @worthy knoll gave me. Gave Vigor Cube to Noah instead of Adjutant.
I think it worked better 
Nice
Thank God… he didn’t attack me a third time
I made him use gems and he left me alone (for today)

@velvet sky hows solo raid 
-# proceed to hit before daily reset
You hitting up SR?
Somebody was excited to use S.Anis out of the box 
I think it’s intentional, doesn’t make sense if sanis isn’t jackal linked too, or a defender
too lazy to bother gonna leave it for last day 
Prolly a really bad idea to use S.Anis against Scarlet+Jackal
That’s my approach to all SR challenges 
all top 50+ or whatever are alr taken by whales anyway
I am not an expert, but you may be better off switching places from S.Anis t2 with Emilia from t1
Hopefully someone can confirm but yeah, I would not use S.Anis on t2
preach
was trying to comment on #pvp-arena message but I didnt see munch chat 
Echo moment
But donte... team 1 is just SG and not gonna burst
dont leave this one til last day imo, at least mock it first
This sr tho… I’ma try again tonight
Goal is 1 billion
just do auto run in raids 
I gotta figure out how to not die 1 min in
I tried using moran lol. When bursting she can’t cover
plz dont forget this game is time crisis: waifu edition
plz use cover
I like to tell people Nikke is Time Crisis mixed with Dead or Alive
That’s how u do it
In my experience Rapunzel works as well as long as you can burst with Noah before Scarlet can nuke
Can you share your updated box?
whales moment
hows this sr going for u? 🤣
This…
This is me
… 1 minute into sr challenge
way better at 0.58% 2.8b, but im pretty sure at SEA it's still bad
wtf 2.8b
HOW
good stuff tho
im at like 2.3 KEKW
last minute exia+ maybe, but idk, i don't think she alone can save it. I've seen whales doing without treasure at all

Rosanna investment?
see I’m never even gonna be 50th so i don’t care 
this SR can be pvp player's frame , too many electric
How much ATK?
only these 2 
Not enough to one shot them 

nikke x doa when?
caved and put an sr doll on Rosanna yesterday, my bully won’t get the better of me
nikke x sniper cars when 
Team 1: Scarlet/X.Anne/Liter/Centi/Jackal
Team 2: Blanc/SBS/Red Hood/Biscuit/Emilia
Team 3: skip
Calculate deficit before attacking, if ou can share your cp with these teams
SR score is good enough so i'm gonna put SR dolls on some PVP nikke.
I got two RL SR dolls. Emilia gets one but idk who to give the other to. Noah/Rapunzel/Jackal/Biscuit or..A2?

no laplace+ yet?
but the 1st team cooked tho 
Already got Lap treasure and a doll on SBS, i keep getting RL SR dolls
Did you record?
the end of this month, the collab
book it

demn forgot about it 
oh yeah Collab is happening soon. I might just hold one of the SR RL dolls because nikke loves making weird collab RL pvp units
but the burst for team 2 is slower than opponent scarlet team
Bay
budget Noah 
budget Noah > no Noah
gold tix Marie Rose 
Just to make sure: tell me cp of:
Scarlet/X.Anne/Liter/Noir/Jackal
Blanc/Emilia/Red Hood/Anis/Centi
extra 
is that good number or bad number?
is so so but let me try cook again
scarlet/bay/red hood/centi/jackal? cp
Smh, I got engrossed watching Case Closed Movies, I've forgotten to check my SP arena 

not gonna work because cp deficit at 15.3%
and centi for emilia. is your emilia 21% charge speed?
People actually use Bay?
yes when yu do not have noah
she is not bad
Seems like upgraded Jackal to me (when Burst)
I should replace Belorta with her then
only 9% ish 
bay is not a jackal substitute at all
bay is a budget noah (doesnt protect u from everything and needs to have her cover not destroyed)
@copper creek im tryingf to find a way for team 2 to not be in deficit
hmm
How is Bay budget Noah? I mean her skill is damage sharing and cover recovery
oh wait no noah
u have bay? if yes, use her in a fight with biscuit against scarlet in rookie or something
easier for u to see it that way
holy sht
Oh the allies got invincibility too?
if noah-less this is hard cuz idk if bay can fight against blanc+scarlet
I'll cook her then, thanks!
basically,
if she still has cover when she bursts, her cover takes dmg instead of everyone else
and because of the way cover works in this game, that means some nukes (scarlet, mpriv) will burn her cover and not touch everyone else
thats overly simplified explanation if you're not sure, again, just test her in rookie or something
Thanks!
i seee. i wll cook again later, work is calling owo
but munch might help you while im gone
everyone
Ah okay. I heard there was a catch to Bay
Something that kept her from being better than Jackal
Prolly the 40 sec cooldown for a b2?
u dont compare bay to jackal at all
Even though that doesn’t matter in pvp
Huh?
so, if she bursts in time and has cover remaining, she'll work against scarlet and mpriv
she will only block first hit of maiden, she wont do anything against 2b/emilia
and she might buy some time against s.anis, rh, alice but ultimately you have better ideas against these
as opposed to noah who just renders the whole team invul for 3sec
oh, does she also need cover hp to do damage share?
yes, if her cover is gone she's worthless
again, if in doubt, just play her against a scarlet team in rookie
rookie is inconsequential anyway
and its easier for u to see for urself than to explain
Thanks for the explanation Munch
np lol sry if not very helpful atm, tilted by SR lol
Does anyone know how to counter Noah RH Biscuit?
I don’t blame you 
I think a lot of people are gonna maximize their sr chances to figure out this boss to max points
rookie or sp ?
anyway, as long as u see a noah - match speed with 2buff emilia usually does it
Rookie. Thank you!
It's not Noise, it shouldn't require tw- oh rookie :T
just general pointer because im lazy to explain
tilting hard on SR
I'm personally waiting for guide first 
guide is out already
but i think most of the guides are kept private because boss is hard and we trying to maintain advantage for friends and union
yeah from what i know i think except for sky, all the guides are private for this season
Woah 
@gaunt cypress

you need to pull to get the guide
OH C'MON
rip rank(?
just a lot of malding
do you have ein?
y
team ein alone can carry you to 0.5
yea trying to optimise play very annoying though
Zwei heals cover repair and has a charge shot to hit the slipper, may need to pull to secure 3% 
Depends how much the scores change
info is out?
for u? no
cuz u dont care for SR

Just basic info, no abilities
does she has future in pvp?
oh i see
I thought she’d be fire with all that red. She’s electric
why the f my ein keep dying.............................
take cover
f-ing stupid, comp that i've figured out in mock battle hates me in normal fight
skill issues
show your full clear
nah just bad luck, crystal + all the harmony cube laser and gatling guns focused on me

maybe i do one run with healer just to get a score in
then optimise after
really no heal with this boss is horrific
then again idk why i act like im surprised considering how many times i reset my mock
part of the process

worse to worst i just pull a hoshiyori and mald one team for 6h xd
zwei is dual sg, better burst gen 
for scar/jackal
the S1 activates after the 2nd SG shot
Any counters?
Dont have noah,bay, clay, makima or moran
pierce buff + cover repair, why is SU so obsessed with cover repair 
and pierce buff sounds great, until you realize that alice and RH can already 1 tap slippers themselves, so using zwei doesn't change anything
you either give up her pierce buff, or give up her slipper 1 shot
I'll prob throw her onto my t4 that can't break slippers, as long as she's 20 sec burst. If 40 sec burst that's easy bench
why
for pvp it really depends on her burst role, but likely niche usage
if b2, very little use

wtf is this game doing today...
waos
why is EVERYTHING focusing my ein this run.................................................
she has a hidden taunt skill
its fine in mock
then i go to do real run
and then my cover gets destroyed even after iframing barrage, THEN i get crystal arrow into my face...
time to restart pc and drink alcohol maybe it'll help
use cover to tank the slippers
if zwei can repair cover and also replenish destroyed cover, ig she'll be good for sustain here
im shooting them down
I don't touch the p1 ones
its just stupid bad luck
makes p1 last longer
need to kill p1 if running no healer team
well at least in the ch 32 boss version
ah
the only no healer team I'm ok with running is crown
yea im running the one i showed u
crown's taunt kicks in fast enough to taunt the second slipper iirc
my original t1
so ein only has to deal with 2 of them
worked fine in mock battle (or maybe not, i reset for 1h for one score)
now ive reset for 90min a dps died in every single one
such is life
most of those is no fault too
stupid
give me this luck when i try my hand at lottery please, not now
do you know if their rosanna can 1 shot you
makima meta?
also what invest is your emilia
Assuming your emilia is at least 4/7/7:
T1: Skip
T2 (Against Emilia): Blanc/Emilia/Rapunzel/Biscuit/Centi
T3 (Against Sanis): Scarlet/Xanne/Anis/RH/Jackal
start sending your box,at nikke tab on lobby, in-game settings > nearby > horizonal if on mobile and sort by power only
scarlet just keeps appearing now on my main screen instead of my wife so she approves, says it’s drinking o’clock 
Anybody knows how many hits u need on p2 crystal arrow to kill the thing
just don't stack def
my T5laplace/2b team like 270m full clear, my emi/laplace +300m 2nd qte
What would be my best Rookie Arena defense/attack team? Also I want to see if my SP Arena Defense teams can be improved
Moran/Rapunzel/S.Anis/Biscuit/Anis
thanks, even if S.Anis cannot hit single clip solo? Also do you have any ideas for SP defense?
poli/privaty/drake/rosanna/sugar---sugar/poli/privaty/rosanna/drake
nero/sbs/modernia/mary/naga
she is nice with this comp, for SP nesso already cooked
might be a dumb question but what does the first line mean? Why is it just the same team but mirrored?
you can use poli p1 or sugar p1, the team have 2 SG, someone must die before poli p1, so you can get your full burst or you go with sugar p1 and maybe she can die
oooooo alright, thank thanks, Is there a chance for a third team that's remotely useful?
the same rookie team
got it, thanks you two 
why is this whale mad again 
Throwing gems in the ether for what. Messages

I wouldn’t even attack them 5x if they didn’t attack me 5x
I had a good thing going, attacking people only once every day in the top 5, unless I lost, where’d I equalise or get one on them
I think they're just testing comps against your defense comp maybe, its rookie arena, no one takes it seriously
looks like a rivalry
I keep the same comp so they don’t adapt. They’ve broken it already
there's a reason I limit my attacks to 3x per day per person (if they don't attack me), so I avoid making enemies like that 
what are you using rn? and what are they using
The harder comps you give them, the better they get
I’m using blanc/emi21/noir/biscuit/redhood
They switch all the time
have you tried Blanc/Emi21/RH/Biscuit/Jackal yet
They use rosanna scar, emi comps are cooked
ah
Plus it puts other scar jack users in range to target me
oh, i just do sometimes x3 on rank 2 and x2 on rank 3
but they do not bother to attack back in rookiem they are in deficit
like 18%
yeah that's what I usually do too
every once in a while someone brave attacks me and fails
but no one has tried it in a while now, I think they've simply given up
it's either this
or just a circlejerk between 2-3 ppl
bruh

it'll get messy if more than 2 ppl are circlejerking
i will send Alex to you, K

whats your sync level
279
Yes
show your profile?

tho
next shuffle then
Next reform 
who knows maybe we all in same bracket together
maybe our bracket were all friends we all made across the way?

make us same synchro and say it again
arent we similar sync? :kekw:
274

and yuo?
Do you have Chris in your bracket, usually use drake profile
250-280k,depends on invest
291, you're same as most of my bracket lol
and S.Anis team 182k
we might actually see each other 
imagine alex is free from the elaviathan but gets you
i hope you'll get into my bracket to suffer from those 2
whats the sync of that C2
350
i can take that c2 but that c1.. lol
come on,you're strong,just do it
monya like 520 maybe
521


invite him here
oh
wanna be like him when i grow up

waos
Any advice here? @copper creek
looks good
goose 🪿 (sorry
)
i didn't stutter

man
deeper down
i wished to not have insane ppl in my bracket
so i could waste all rocks on raid units
same tbh
Don’t mind losing, but being attacked more than 3x when I’m not even top 5 is crazy
i will invite you two to my bracket, ez life

we fight our mirror images 
be aware nobody gets your rocks today
after reset

except myself ... my alt took my rocks 
Any advice before I attack? @spice trellis @worn field
well i figured I could attack this one instead
Lanius is constantly checking, changing his team and will probably hit me back anyway
sounds like something iwould do
You can use Rosanna (even uninvested) to remove 2b hp buff. Second team seems to be concentrated into 2b, tho I’m unsure if RH b1 will give her enough nuke power even without the hp to atk buff
natsu ask every day about sp hits?
he is a true pvper
at least he has fights
I mean guy is kinda progressing anyway, making smarter teams by the day
His teams here look decent, Moran with biscuit to counter 2b burst
go
in sr
stuck at 30-6 rip
how
it’s hard chapters
my alice have 30%ele damage and 1 atk/ammo line
it's easiest thing ever
normal
just aim the core with pierce and bam
im using my pvp teams but seems to not work at all
you have a crown problem
you could've started with that
Cook for me Chat I need a defence setup for SP Arena I dropped down to diamond gotta step my level up
The LaPlace is with her Treasure
Noah/Noise/S.Anis/Biscuit/Rapunzel
Scarlet/Blanc/Red Hood/Centi/Jackal
SBS/Laplace+/X.Anne/Liter/Noir
something different to try
in that order ?
you can swap teams as you wish
I mean the teams in terms of noah in first place, noise in 2nd, etc.
jackal win round 2 reset residual most of the time
When is next shuffle?
2months (?
prayer for rock
oh yes

While you're at it, I could use some defense tips too....
share your box
start sending your box,at nikke tab on lobby, in-game settings > nearby > horizonal if on mobile and sort by power only
1 rock putangina
One moment
alteisen
I'm on PC rn
hmm
rookie or sp
SP
one more question, is your laplace+?
She has the item
**sp - def : **
blanc/rh/emilia/alice/centi
noise/noah/s.anis/laplace+/rapunzel
jackal/scarlet/scalter/poli/noir
**min. invest : **
laplace+
emilia - 4/7/7
s.anis - 7/7/9 (min.) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube
poli - burst to 4+
quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel
tempering cube (not urgent, take your time with this) at your own discretion,
priority: noah > blanc > other def taunters & units as required.
**please include in your wishlist : **
tetra line - biscuit
i do not advise running def teams on atk :
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order.
Cool, but I got no Biscuit
edited
Good timing. I just MLBd Viper, so a spot opened up
No change.

munch does not like viper uwu
unless your viper is higher CP than noir, then sure.
otherwise, persist.
i generally dont like SGs if i dont have to lol
cuz jackal feeds off SGs
Noir has a lot more CP. I did it for Tetra Tower
yea then persist
yea so they can go jackal the t3 lol
but the other 2 ... lol rather not let them have a chance
Need teams for special arena
Can someone explain how these atk teams lost?
first one hard to say without vid, prob just lost in the raw dmg fight
second one you prob died to rapunzel + priv stuns
Yeah I got to Alice burst but I think she got stuck on Moran?
Yeah sounds about right
Any recommendations for how to counter?
what skill lvl is your mpriv
4/4/4
i probably should have realized this ages ago maybe - with jackal link. if the other 2 linked chars are in pos 1/2 and they both take damage. is there a double dip effect so everyone takes even more damage?
as opposed to say if they were in pos1/pos4 instead so only pos1 took dmg
the dmg is split if that's what you're asking
@coarse lake
yep but i guess what i'm trying to say is - which seems silly now that i word it.
pos/1pos2 linked - both taking splash dmg = more dmg for the jackal link.
pos1/po4 linked - only pos 1 taking real dmg. = less dmg for the jackal link overall (?). pos 2 in this scenario still takes splash but it's not linked so pos1 (i.e. scarlet) doesn't get murdered faster
what skill invest is your summer anis
5/5/5 😔
what's their other team?
Scarlet biscuit jackel at 120k cp
oof, ok yeah avoid that one
T2: Noise/Bsoda/Centi/Sugar/Pepper
T3: Mpriv/Blanc/Marciana/Sanis/Jackal
tbh I'm not very confident on those, especially T3, your shotguns will need to kill rapunzel before she can burst
Alr thank you
Don’t have Emma though
fixed, check for cp deficit
How could i beat this ?
why does my scarlet die here before bursting? shouldnt jackal link prevent that?
that means even ur jackal link cant save u lol
is your scarlet higher atk than your sanis? (after accounting for OL lines)
could just be raw dmg too yeah
scar counter + emi raw dmg, your comp isn't winning even if you get to burst btw 
neither of them have any atk ols (assuming ele dmg doesnt count) so scar should be about 10k atk ahead
shouldnt blanc make the other team way slower though?
Blanc/Emilia/RH/Biscuit/Centi (Emilia at least 4/7/7)
your sanis is feeding their jackal
oh so i could just swap my sanis to emilia and it should work?
not accounting for feed you're still slower
you still don't have protection, will be hard to burst fast enough to nuke
as soon as their indom lands (probably on their scarlet), it's over for you
your best options are using a max invest rosanna snipe, or a god comp to stall
Noise/Bscar/Rapunzel/Jackal/Noah works best if your Noise and Noah have the same charge speed and ammo, and your noise is higher atk than rapunzel
if not, will have to do something a bit diff
yeah i think i need to really rethink my account after this season 💀
can't wait for reshuffle
found the solution, just dump all cp in one team and kill the enemy scar before it bursts 
lol yeah that works too
totally valid - what i do for blanc 1 pos teams too
💀
What are the two best universally usable teams for sp arena attack ?
scarlet zoom + emi icbm are the most common but the actual team will depend on what you're attakcing
I dont think it’ll happen but if champion arena is a 5 team and best out of 5 wins, will it be a disaster?
Tbh I dont even do solo raid challenge mode anymore cause I can’t get top 3% on NA when I’m competing against day 1 players. I’ve just been investing exclusively into pvp cause it has account based matchmaking.
pvp players 
I’m kinda worried that champion arena is gonna be a server wide competition cause if so newer players will bite the curb lol
of course it will be
Collab units will give older players an advantage, Doubt it

Hey don’t mess with us, we’ll tell shift up to release more pvp nikkes that have no use in raid content 
Those challenger 1 gems are a nice pension 😮💨
I felt attacked
tbh i prefer pve but the game has given me 5 pilgrim attack boots and 1 glove.
doesn't matter if i have mod/sbs/scarlet when they're like 20-30% cp below crown 
i do wonder how long it took day 1 players to get a full set of pilgrim t9ms - a month/a year?
Guys i need 3 temas for arena,what should i do?
The only full set I have for Pilgrims are for Rapunzel, Noah and 
- I haven’t converted them to OL yet, though
Getting reminded once again how sh*ty Scarlet is starting to be 

would using Ein be the same result 
I imagine most of the nuke hits will be blocked since they're slightly delayed
How is that even possible in your case? 
Oh… SAnis is hitting your Centi, isn’t she?
yes SAnis might die if she hit Jackal, but that don't matter regardless, it just shows Scarlet can't one hit anyone with Noise buff using double buffed Scar and no crit anymore 
phooey 
Probably best for us to just use Emilia against Noah most times regardless of the tasty SG units
I was trying to make a def, then when it came to using Scarlet, I can't simulate any scenario where I find her able to win against SAnis comps aside when cp gap. If double buffed Scar is already this disappointing, how much more once you dilute her to just single buff or no buff at all for faster speed 
the noah problem
can you still win with double taunt against sanis+newnoah speed? @worthy knoll
Yeah it’s a tough situation and it’s sad because I love her as a character and her concept
She needs a treasure/favorite item
Else, she’s gonna be a sad and depressed girl

Hmm? I've always been using double taunt against all SAnis teams, my vids of those before were even post dual weapon BG update
which 2 taunters work best?
for what?
i just use emi/blanc/crown against sanis
Been using Nero Moran Quiry for me even without Biscu, but treasure Diesel should be fine, just no 5 sec taunt post full burst. Moran Biscuit SAnis Lud also should work fine too but its and all or nothing lineup, you do it like that, you should kill them during the first full burst
maybe i will try double taunt again, but i don't know if that works in my sp bracket
are there any taunters that specifically don't work well? maybe noise or tia?
This one example of using Moran Bis SAnis Lud, can replace Emi with Centi who has 16% CS
last hits+full charge taunt
depends on team speed+ cs
but you can't count on AR or smg taunt
unless it is a burst taunt
wdym
A battle of SAnis is usually a battle of attrition where the one with the better sync wins unless you do something different were its kinda weird. I can't go toe to toe to any SAnis teams since I'm always 45-70 sync below my opponents. Else Noah SAnis Tia should be fine if you are the one with sync and cp advantage (SAnis LB and OL lines advantage too)
does tia properly taunt?
what about noise
noise is full charge
Oh wait just need 5 but its still long
in the vid noise didn't get aggro, does noise need to hit to taunt sanis?
depends on position and enemy taunt
yep
She needs to hit or.. have the higher atk than your SAnis so enemy SAnis will target her with S2 instead of your SAnis
so there isn't a taunt that can't taunt, if a taunt is properly applied, it'll always taunt?
priority(? full charge count as 1, you have taunt and attract
Noise only taunts by debuffing whoever she hits with full charge of 2s taunt, it is not all target taunt like Diesel burst pre treasured.
Though I haven't seen any new debuff taunt lately since Moran. Moran is both buff and debuff taunter. Though her debuff is only x number of enemies. Only one with a wide screen debuff taunt is Maiden, but that needs like 30s to proc even 🤔
the only guy without max core sanis in my top10
My SAnis is just 1 LB 
1dupe?
Yeah just 1 dupe
Is your Quiry max heal?
i think it was 7, i have mats
meme squad 
I can't afford to invest into all these niche pvp units
I'll prob just icbm it and call it a day
wait for the collab then
unless the collab is with the library, it ain't helping my skill book shortage 
i don't have hopes on my double taunt units so they will probably die
Team Quiry is back again, but now with a new bae named Bay! Make sure to check out the V2 version featuring Moran at https://youtu.be/UAwrTz-Fu54 and the original V1 meme at https://youtu.be/OrAwMDPIfME
In spite of Intern-kun's terrible and incorrect translation job (her S2 adds proportional damage sharing to her cover, see the JP/KR skill desc...
I wanna to use this comp... if only I have Noise / Noah lol
That will prolly only work on Scarlet comps but not on SAnis comps
There's Sanis variant too
Need Moran if against SAnis, I don't think Noise can cut it 🤔
You can just tank all the way like this too 
too slow xd
oh.. my Quiry is also 4 Line CS 🏃♂️💨
don't worry i always try to do 3 rounds, sometimes i just make different teams and skip a round only to see residual
Mine has 0lb

She has so much invested, too…
i think laplace was better on that team
Ahh.. my Nero > atk than Rapu too 
also moran atk, no?
i use default stats, with my bad luck nothing good
My Moran is all def lines but yeah, having more atk will help on her survivability once she use her burst I guess 🤔
if the guy attack me again(lose) i will try with laplace

Would putting Rapunzel in p3 for t1 be good to help revive?
nice
revive who?
Well, anyone
you can't tank without moran b1 and sanis attack the 2 highest atk units
that is the reason i don't use double taunt, bad OL and it doesn't work in my bracket
Try this instead? Just need SR SMG doll though if low invest on S2
taunt prio for noise/noah depends on whoever's shot lands last
but if placed next to each other it's usually noise assuming same cs and ammo
noah's proj is a tad bit faster
Interesting

usually whoever is closer to p1 has prio
If same CS, Noise priority coz Noah will hit first due quick travel time, even if Noah Noise setup, same CS, Noah will hit first even if Noise is closer to target coz Noah RL travel time is faster than Noise RL travel time
Um…
I guess I need to dust off that Ludmilla of mine
if noise has more ammo than noah, who should be in P1? Noah or Noise
i can try that later, when that guy beats me, i have been using the same sp def teams for like+3months
whoever has more ammo always has taunt when the other has to reload

once noah bursts, it's noah
yes, p5 noah has faster proj, and is closer, so noise's proj hits later and so has taunt
Any help for this? It's SP, t1 cp skip, t2 scar,/xanne,/centi/ros/jack....
p1 noah p2 noise still has noise taunt, p1 noah p3 noise still has noise taunt, p1 noah p3 noise with adjutant on noise is enough for noah to get taunt
that won't work @worthy knoll my sanis OL is crap
so noah's proj speed is about 2.1 positions worth of distance 
here's a simple way to look at it, assuming same CS and ammo rolls, whoever is closer to p1 is taunt prio
but you gotta add 2.1 positions worth onto noah, so if p1, it'll be p3.1
vs p3 noise, noise still has taunt (closer to p1)
at least that's what tests indicate
actually it could be slightly less than 2 positions worth, the guy I wanted to test didn't report back
like that, pepper p5 is you don't need stacks or biscuit p3
To me I don't bother with the ammo, what matters for me is the priority preburst.. post burst Noise will die anyway so i don't bother with it much 
aww they deleted their messages
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people always says to not let biscuit near taunters
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Interesting different rl’s can have different travel times but same CT. Emi’s seems slow
their only RL is biscuit, so it should be fine
p3 is safe with p1-p2 taunt +noah p1 no?
Oh man, I gotta study this
Also, with all the cs bug problems, I don’t have anyone using Adjutant (remember my Noah problem yesterday?)
But if Noise can use it and I want to pair her w/Noah against S.Anis, that may be useful. I could use the Vigor Cube spot that Noise currently has.
i think so, im not really an expert about it
Depends, if its against a team you want the defender taunter to last long like against SBS, then yeah place her away from taunter.. if you just need her to let the P1 def taunter survive pre burst, then it is fine to place her near the taunter.
in p4 sanis can avoid the first full charge taunt or noise taunt
not sure if your noah issue was due to noah's cs resulting in target skip, or a different issue)
so i could swap places with biscuit and S.Anis
Yeah, I learned the hard way yesterday 
No main dps on p2
I have my biscuit in p2 in my noah emi comp 
make sure emi is safe, noah only needs 1 invuln anyway
waos
are you winning with that T3?
When I took off the cube, the targeting seemed to be fine afterwards (Biscuit took splash damage in p2 but was not focused)
Na 😔
waos, i do not use biscuit with emi team
I saw the vid after, it still happened
I can see the scarlet attack animations on biscuit, so same issue
bro is Emiless
Oh really?
Darn… dunno what’s going on then
The problem is the t3... 😔

you might have to roll noah completely off CS, or it could be a different issue like some freak residual or CS sharing from your other units
Yup
i thought it was T2, my bad... what about the scarlet team?
I always advocate for no CS or ammo rolls on noise noah to keep life simple 
Imo just Scarjack T3, then 2 or 3 RL Noah SBS T2
well ammo is fine if they got same ammo
I will check the vids and my cs stats on all members on that team, but if I can reroll I definitely will
rosanna oneshot scarlet?
Noah that is
Yea T2, burst super fast, i need ross to one shot scar and emi
how is the matchup, rh higher atk than sanis right?
Yeah, 4 atk lines both
its fine since you have noah+more speed
I think their T3 has lack of damage to kill SAnis before their Noah runs out then enemy SAnis just lifesteals them
i wish i have a 4line atk rh
i hope its not a residual issue though
Bruh i lost xd
wait my rh have 4 lines
where are his units?
Yup
noir to p5 seems scary
Ok 🙌🏻
jut poli harran his ass
No, scar emi and noah die instant
Yup noah 1/ biscuit 1/ anis 1
Noise has 2
Rh 2/ s.anis 1 🤣
Ok 🙌🏻
T3 lost again 😔

and T2? last unit
@coarse lake Experimenting
Noah no longer has CS lines or Adjutant
I’ll try to see if I can do Rookie with the team I used yesterday, and see if things are different
Yeah
yeah rookie wouldn't really prove it made a diff
unless you've got target skip in rookie before
can sanis with moran burst tank a nuke with rh crownS1?
I didn’t know Rookie was different
but good to know
Ok I’ll try in SP sometime, and try to use same team as before
Thanks as always @coarse lake 
need a b1 
You can try this if it still does not work
R1: Skip, 1 unit in P5
R2: Noah Noise Anis(quantum) SBS Centi(quantum)
R3: Blanc Biscuit Scarlet RH Jackal
p2 should be safe with jackal...blanc burst go to biscuit
Ok, I'm going to spend 100 gems.
Well my target was even it residuals to Biscuit, I hope they kill her good, and I pray Scarlet remains alive. As long she is able to burst should be gucchi
wait...rh hp higher than scarlet, right?
Scarlet damage herself anyway so should be no problem?
cube- visor-vest
1 dupe is like+38k hp at that lvl
Well don't matter who gets the indom, as long Scarlet slash able to kill SAnis 🤔
yeah
Mmm Yeah, it worked, but they all died in t2, only sbs survived with a hp pixel.
T3 won without problems

and no video
The problem now is, how can I defend myself against him with the changes we made?
today i lost 2 times; 1 because bad skip-- p5 when it should be p1 and a target skip to p4 in round 1
Did T2 the got hit by Scarlet slash? Or Noah able to block it?
Yep she block it
Ahh so its just a post Noah problem 🤔
But the dps of scarlet kill 4 😔
scarlet is indeed a very scary thing🤣
imagine when we get a real buffer for her
Vigor Noah, increase Noise burst to max, SR doll them up only way to increase your tankiness.. oh and ofc.. max gears too, body and helmet at least
bruh
not these annoying fight skips again aaa like how the hell am i supposed to know what went wrong there to fix it if everything skips 
All of them have sr dolls, lvl 5
SG and RL problem?
no it’s this annoying bug that shows first fight and then skips next 2
I don’t get skips at all
… because my iPhone crashes before that happens

Prolly just toggle skip, from the start so you can watch the replay individual
Well prolly skill levels? I'm not sure how you build the units but the thing only I could think of is increasing your wall's tankiness Noah Noise (skills, cube, gears, dolls that increases hp or reduce damage taken, or debuff decreasing enemy's atk too can help even if its by a small amount) , and increasing your SBS damage so you can kill them quicker 🤔
I wish you could save arena replays
or at least it should keep your last arena match on file if something happens (like in my case, constant iPhone crashes)
Same with Centi and Anis too, make them tanky enough to not be a flimsy wall at least 🤔
Honestly, I've only focused on improving my PVP team, they all have OL 5, sr dolls, cubes at 9.... I have 1.7M cp but since I'm a day 1 player I've never been able to get into the top 10 Challenger.... Now I could pass to c8 but people are very active.
Yeah, it does help. I’ve been adding OL gears, upping skills, leveling up cubes and working on dolls to get my cp up and all
Centi/anis/Noah/ all of them ol and dolls
being day 1, really makes it hard I bet
Especially the whales
Aye guess its just the sync diff making it hard for you to survive
Yes, unfortunately i left the game for about 3 months and when i came back i couldn't do anything about the level gap

You prolly would have it easier if you had Emi 
true
Yeah, from what people have said, that’s the killer
Taking extended time off
And no Emi?
But c8 is the closest to me in cp terms
Na no emi 😔
This kind of tankiness was what I was expecting, but I guess Scalter being a slow kill makes their other units assist Scarlet to deal some damage.
I’m scared to use gold tix now
Because collab is prolly the only reason to use them
I already missed out on Makima (well, most people did)
I wasn’t playing Nikke at all then
I only started late november 
okay FINALLY a normal run against this cursed whale bc first time stupid iPhone crashed (too lazy to do it on pc) then those annoying skips started then i flopped again until switched cubes back the way they were when i won lul
funny how with deficit fights cubes decide everything in my case lul
Well, it doesn't matter much if I can't do anything else... 😔 assuming he has the same def and atk team, for my def team i put the teams that were recommended to me right now....
But in the first team what can I put? he's an active player so i think he won't last me 1 hour in that place...😔
Just to test
If it doesn't work out I'll have to stay at 12th for the rest of time 😆😅
What was the secret sauce?
(what cubes did you use)

Ely the expert about deficit
You are CP gapped on the first team so its hard to fight it, but the team that can only work on the first team while on penalty is a Blanc Scarlet (or SBS) Biscuit RH Jackal team. And that is with the condition that enemy SG don't skip your P5 Jackal else you'll die if they target RH/Scarlet 
everything was all over the place from previous fights so vigor back to gremlin quantum on emi adjutant on rapu & vigor on biscuit
Nero taunt takes prio over ludmilla?
Yeah, but in order to make t1, I'll have to change my other two teams xdd, well it doesn't matter at least I sent the message that I can beat him, back to d1 again.
Thx for the help 🙌🏻
I’m kinda in the same boat. The only people who can beat me on DEF on a regular are the people who CP gap me. Anyone who is equal or less than me in CP, my def shuts them down ( @umbral crown helped me make my def)
So basically I can’t even touch above C9 because the people in Challenger destroy me with cp deficit
So if a person beats my def due to cp, I hit them back. If I lose because of matchup or cp, I’ll say gg see you next week. If I beat them enough times they leave me alone for a week 😂
Yeah thats the funny thing, cause nobody attacks me for months, and only when I go up to challenger, I get attacked for whales 😆....
For 2 buff taunters, the one in the leftmost (P1 to P5 order), will have the prio.
While for some weird reason, if 3 buff taunters at the same time, all weapon types except SG will target left most while all SG types will target rightmost. Well this is while attacking. Though I am not sure if the priority is the same if its fighting a defending buff taunters team, it is only me who is crazy enough to to that kind of defending team so no one to test it on 
I disowned adjutant recently because of cs shenanigans 
I put Rapu on Healing
lol. i was thinking ludmilla nero would be good anti scalter, but I need p1 to be tanky + ludmilla to be the taunter
in the meantime 45.84% atk on ros, now will be omw to 60+ 
So S.Anis S2 be all like

derp city

waos
waw
I want 60% atk too
imagine
owo
Cooking
Too good with that Nero/Ludmilla derp
Day 1 player things xdd... 😭
Rosy we gotta get 60%+ atk Rosanna

1-shot so hard, it’ll kill 2 attackers + jackal via link 
Is 60% really possible? I think atk don't go as high as 15% so about 58%ish would prolly be the highest?
I dunno the highest value. Never seen a black atk line
yea black is 14,63% iirc
I’m gonna lock 2 atk lines & reroll there, basically just need to smh fish out 11.81 x2 and voila close to 70
like I have this empty thing which basically needs to be locked & rerolled 
70%? 
Uhh? I don't think you can have duplicate same type of lines though

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