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SSakura don’t need to burst to start DoT, right?
we only has 3 team bypass noah biscuit atm
sanis
emid
sakura (if b1 not healer) (?)
Does power count? I forgot
nope
welp
Another Nikke I wanna develop for pvp
EIN die the moment she got the indom lmao
the ein was just sadlife in that clip lol
What’s your stats on SSakura now?
kinda low, let me check
Sr in 2 and a half days boyos
my viper selector
And reset period ending soon

Lappy + for me
can I ask advice for a PVP team?
probably both
I kinda didn't read much on what's special arena is for
ok zixk clearing backlog
awesome that means i dont have to do it myself
that means i can get absolutely drunk today sicne i have no more meetings


you think sanis without atk buffer gonna fall off late game?
how did that work
the sacc p2 means that the enemy team get less burst gen since they hit 1 target (p1) and not 2 (p2 dead unit for like 1-2RL) you can't count mast S2 as a crit rosanna burst+ depends on cores/lvls/puppets and rosanna burst lv
She needs SR doll but she will get one eventually
but if you use that team against someone with similar lvl, isnt that mean you gonna fight with 15-20% cp lower?
rosanna need atk lines in OL for oneshot now, at least +40% without crit
That’s pretty solid
I will try to build her up because now that I’m in an actual good union, I can use SSakura for raids along with pvp
Thats nice, i could transfer skills to S.Anis but no needed for now
Does this only work if the SAnis don't have any atk buffer?
you need to push campaign
I just beat Normal Chap 30 today
I c....makes me wanna build Quiry cuz most enemy SAnis in my bracket r using Stall

most of the taunt/stall comps depends on OL, moran comps event at 10/10/10 don't work for me because no def or atk on her OL
Do you really need atk lines for Moran?
then you have player to player cases when the enemy have good OL and have a higher damage for some of those units
def+atk is good for her healing, but not required
the 2nd line, high power deficit/dupes and OL (because i will not use my rocks until we have CA)
hey guys, am i actively griefing myself for not playing the small anis? she really tanks my cp but im afraid im losing out on burst gen.. current team is jackal/scarlet/poli/small anis/noir (biscuit centi noah noise rapunzel emilia are already slotted elsewhere)
for nikke 2
got it

like my social points
You can increase her CP by upgrading her gear to Overload gear (+0 is fine)
That’s what I’m doing and she’s surviving for much longer, while not handicapping me in CP
i really dont wanna spent rocks on an sr unit. i am way way more invested in SR
if i remember... like 2k for a sugar dupe and another 3k for maiden-guillotine-volume at the start of the game (the first 5k points SR season +1)
Thanks : D
Fair enough, it’s another clip RL unit that can help but it’s up to you
how about pepper, even tho im already running jackal
Thanks! appreciate the help as always 
@umbral crown Thank you again for the lineup change
The dude gemmed up and raised his sync levels by 4 😂 and he did that to beat me
I won again even though I made minor mistakes. I still need to get used to making teams on offense when near CP deficit
I will keep the def as is for now
This is my Anis after overloading all my best nikkes for pvp
will check this when im home

I want to do this eventually, but right now I have to build up OL+0 for a lot of role-player support/defenders
those back to back slashes 
Ely the chef
noah mvp
Just wondering… who should I build up next: SSakura or Moran?
whew
CHEERS FRIENDS
~40k from ol...
go 4OL ur anis bro
skills are all 10/10/10 but I might reset it later

im not use her in 3v3 atm

her burst gen is so good with cs % from OL
Does she not need cs? I might be wrong about giving her cs if that doesn't change much
Several people are typing...
Viper is in both 2nd & 3rd teams, who should i replace her with for one of them?
i also have space in sync to use other Nikkes
I’m almost 3/4ths of the way to OL+0
She has a bit more CP than my Centi rn
t1 was sweaty too i absolutely hate fighting outcpgappers 
Ty!
i prefer cp padding strat, if i dont use anis here, they cant use anis either...
waos
Laplace too
haha
Yeah, it’s stressful…
I made some mistakes today against someone who’s CP is high enough that I could get a penalty, but I still won and it was a good learning experience
true, my top 6 players are doing that
for 5v5 bro
battle royale
free for all
technically 15 vs 15
i will wait till i know how it work first
Winner team must do default dance
works working
she was part of this team, but treasure give so much cp i can run 4rl scar
the girls und panzer dance
Imagine they ban all clip rl at 1st season
wtf? how much cp did treasure give u? dont tempt me to whale for la++ now plzzzzz
La Plus
do it
Viper+ for the win
if sr dont eat any more of my resources i will
100k extra cp crunch lmao
yep, CA season 1 without bans (if it has bans)
Those dolls can be pretty unforgiving with success rates, too
I got lucky when I jumped from lvl 10 to 15 for S.Anis SR Doll
laplace treasure for me was like +40k
okayyyyy time to la++ then
i didnt ss before and after i give her treasure
sounds like a plan
ill make sure to do that then
no bans in any season, dream does not lie
So with La Plus, do you just use her for battery and put her at p4? No bursting, right?
sadly its out of necessity
otherwise im gonna be cp gapped forever 
ys

i hope that we get seasonal bans, no emi, sanis, sbs, scarlet or jackal runs
depend on the comp,in a noah comp laplace can burst+buffer
one day, treasure for both rupee
im happy cuz she can burst here...
rip xanne or scarlet(p1)+ rosanna burst p1-2 or rosanna trade+ 3-4-5 chain?
probably not going to happen, because i need to focus on SR 🤣 aiming for top 1%
then 0.5% need to see you

just go for the tier 3 frame at 2-3%
been there done that already 🤣
this boss is difficult, so i want to push as hard as i can
do you have ein?
yes, 7/7/7
good luckwith the perfect runs; 0/0/0 here
his scar die first cuz reflect + splash from lap, then ros nuke scar + alice, anne rez scar
laplace elemental? or 2-3hits?
64% ele (inc cube)
pepper...

Stonk
1min.. fff
Congrats 
That 10 second beam makes me so happy
Ty
Lets celebrate with 1 multi for you
Go
I manage to be in the top 10 (I reached the top 3 once) but I would have liked to know if I could integrate summer Anis (currently her skills are 7/8/9 ) Anne or even rosanna to optimize my teams ( even if I would have liked to have sbs or centi...)
might go for la+ myself bc i alr farmed 100+ blue cloths
but no sr dolls 
Today 3k gem for rosy ocean 
5 sec laplce burst without treasure feels very short, on the other hand when you have treasure those same 5sec are an eternity
She needs burst at 9
saturday(?
What?
that wasn't in the contract
Its what i will do

farming for diesel phase 3
Treasure phase 4

I am a silly goose sometimes
Oh fine, in your account
and rosanna is 7/7-10/10 30+% atk 
How to improve teams ? I have Xanne but and Rosanna
💀 you realize that this team use rh b1 > b2 > b3 right?
Si, but also S.Anis tempting
and scarlet without buffer can't kill
You would place Pepper in front of?
for cp gap looks fine
160
yeah i doing this too, lap 1 then change to viper
@keen vapor ok now i change my S.Anis is 7/8/9 😉
For me Viper then Laplace
Anyone… want any cloths?
laplace phase 2(61mats) now diesel (91mats) i need a SR MG puppet
Wait, you already have her MLB
why you gonna do that
*odd kid with a phase 11 exia * 

Good question
I’ve already rolled 70 but no S.Anis dupe
I’ve resorted to playing Campaign and Lost Sector for money
CA dupes
Maybe by putting Emilia in place of Maiden and using Summer Anis in that Noise Noah team 
if i get a sanis dupe in 80multi i can ticket the last one for mlb and keep+60-70+crystals +600-700 tickets for the next collab
Walled?
MLB non pilgrims useless unless:
- Walled
- You want the wallpaper.
2 LB is better or jump to Core instead.
True
Stupid discord

mlb for CA, synchro415 for now
dupe is like+1200-1500, skill +480 and lvl like 200-230, gearlv +160-220
Why MLB
hp stats

to leave his name in your history
someday, someone really special will try and touch your butt 
they tried like 11 days ago



im like: sometimes im 12h offline and when i log i just see 0 attacks
i do not check it as often as i used to
(f2p) in the situation that SU add lvl cap for champion arena, dupes would have a higher value, if that is not the case it is ok to have more stats, other thing i can do is to spend on the collab units (mlb, just for the animation+stats) if they are good for pvp



classic
i remember in my early fights in rookie i had a match Noise vs Noise
had emma vs emma & rapu vs rapu 
@worn field thx for the pvp teams, I managed to stay in top 3 even thought many other players with higher cp attacked me!
May the best biter win
and im that guy 
but that's too many butt touching 
425 vs 382 btw , and i'm still wining on atk 
Your server very quiet
too effective message sending 
thanks to that person, so I can get a lot of data to be able to counter in every lineup.
testing subject 
yeah, wanted a bit more action
should i pull more copies of ein?
for pvp purposes, not necessary.
for pve purposes, it depends on whether you want to mald for your best possible score in SR
tl;dr no
cool. only interested in pvp
kinda.. i dont understand it much LOL
i just do w/e i am told 🫡

Could I change Centi for Anis in the second team? As I don't have it yet
go with both teams I had set up already? no adjustments needed on both?
@worn field can you take a look at this please?
even when I did sbs it still skipped
@copper creek my bad I think you were the one who wanted to see it
he might be sleeping, record it and post it here
oh ok just saw this sorry
mbmb, just got home
this is why we never ever put anis in a blanc team
because anis is a SR instead of SSR, she has lower base stats - even with biscuit, she will steal indom off other units
now I normally do sbs blanc RH centi jackal
yeah, never anis with blanc
still got skipped
huh
remember when I said they skipped straight to RH
that sbs comp is what zixk suggested me to do and just ditched anis
I worked until
yesterday, when you mentioned a burst of target skip complaints
it looks like that's working properly and rh is getting scarlet s2'd
but wait for zixk to tell you for sure
im not good at looking at this sorta thing
reset is in 30 mins
I can try, and this time I can rec the battle
what do we use to record the screen btw?
maybe wait for zixk first, he's here
oaky
not anymore, that comp worked a few days ago so I thought the target skipping was fixed
then it happened again yesterday, but got worse cos even sbs comp failed
even this in sp arena failed, idk if due to residual or not but they skipped right to RH
another one, this was 4 days ago, worked for 3 days straight
and this was yesterday
same comp, my power increased slightly cos I leveled up sync
the anis comp is rookie arena
the blanc emi is sp
few minutes before sp reset
my main problem is that blanc emi comp vs CV01
I can only hit that guy to milk some score for t30
Looking to update my special arena teams please.
Currently:
Moran/Blanc/SAnis/Biscuit/Laplace+
Scarlet/XAnne/Rosanna/Centi/Jackal
Noah/Noise/Emilia/Red Hood/Scalter
Thanks.
id probably say laplace needs to be replaced
any idea on the blanc emi team target skip?
this one
not maid priv instead of bunny soda?
Much appreciated. I'll give those a go after reset. 
probably not
I still dont have noah yet
7min
im surprsied nobody attacked me today
I'm low on resources to upgrade units, can only do either rosanna or moran, which one to prioritse?
Snipe!

Sniped 
i tried it on 4 diff player, same result
snip back 
Poor Emilia
Nothing yet

reset
get your lunch monies
GG
Start to embrace stalling against SAnis teams 
you say moran and i will say nero
thanks
2rocks
maybe i just need doll on her
finished 5th this season
genuinely surprsied since i was busy and didnt spend time on it
How to beat this. Mirroring with sanis didn’t work. 13% deficit with SAnis
Oh that was surprising, I was expecting I was on 6 at least since I was C8 for most of the time, how'd my total got on on rank 4 🤔
i tried switch cs cube around
time to embrace the stall, no need to think about CS 
emi nuke (? or b1 defender+biscuitb2 for sanis comp
we are both pleasantly surprised
Oh Emilia ya sure I can try it
Nope emi died way too quick
And nope failed even on deficit rip
Well kidding aside, can't you just go simply like this? Even if they skip, linked SG at P4 will catch their SAnis attack
i don't know damage, but would run rosanna to snipe sbs or try moran/biscuit/sanis/jackal/rapu or flex, i think some sakura comps works against sbs(?
i cant use this in 3v3...
c7
I got rewards for being rank 3 in SP despite being #4 the entire season and the top 3 being the same three people the entire season (I check pvp often, nobody ever attacked them because they're like 50-100 levels higher). anyone know how that's possible?
Aye, well I use double taunt stall against SAnis on for 3 v 3 while 2 RL Noah Emi against any Scar Jack
huh
someone got banned(?
no idea, their names were still there before reset. i don't know if they would still show up if banned, but maybe
or c5 and c3 traded when you were sleeping
excellent

Something like this
too expensive for me atm
i run scarlet/rapu- 2RLemi and double taunt or sanis-sbs or blanc emi
sometimes i use xmica
💀 i can still beat him in 3v3 atm, hope i never need to raise this team
idk, i check pvp like tons of times a day and top 3 was always the same. i don't even think 5/6 could beat 3 if they tried but maybe I just never saw.
I lost position 4 to number 7 over night lots of times tho so i'd be surprised if they still had less points than me swapping positions
2-3 jumps to c3 from rank 8-5
Do we know if champion arena going to be similar to special arena in the leaderboard setup?
Main change is 3v3 to 5v5 and that’s it?
we dont know yet
do we know the drink for today?
bruh
its 5am here and i just had a stupid amount of drinks 😂
but sure, i'll make a gimlet
man that was not great luck on ein OL lines
lets try some more stuff with her then
how are you finding Ein? has anyone done testing with her yet?
carbonated water
mostly keripo and zixk, the stuff i do is just to verify what they say
yes
whats the team for ein again
Ein/Blanc/Red Hood/Centi/Jackal
i went to redo all my rookie teams lmao

I just got blanc today. Do i want to pair her with Noir like in pve or she can be put anywhere just for her defense skills?
dont need to be paired with noir in pvp.
most pvp fights are over after the first burst, so the cdr from pairing them is not super important.
Aight. Got it. So i can just replace any of my b2 with her. Nice
depends on burst gen also.
take note that blanc is an AR, if you swap a clip sg or RL for her - in most cases your team will be slower to burst.
was fighting weaker people with an uninvested ein, now lets put her against some people who punch my own weight
hmm at our sync can we do 1buffer...?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZREFr1R4FVc
@umbral crown relevant to our sync level, bear in mind this team wont be 2rl unless opponent feeds jackal
any chance for me to beat this team while im 24 lvls down?
unlucky. i guess the level gap is too strong. plus i dont think i have biscuit enhanced enough. Any suggestion on my defense team for rookie?
okay I won but why did RH have indom???
Jackal link means RH and SBS took equal damage. I'm assuming since your SBS lb2 and RH lb1 that RH has less HP so she gets the indom
did your sbs die before blanc's b2 ?
maybe put a vigor cube on red hood next time
this is the reason, she has more hp
that screen shot is for next battle btw, mine is 3RL, theirs 3.5RL
whats the order from fastest to slowest btw?
2>2.5>3>3.5>4?
yeah
maybe I shud switch it up and do emilia blanc RH centi jackal?
if I burst first then my indom will end faster than them
its not gonna be on sbs anyway
or 4RL + 2B?
you would still lose from your indom ending first
in blanc vs blanc the slower team will usually wins unless the first team wipes out blanc or blanc's indom target before their full burst starts. and emi has delay nuke so they would likely win
Pretty sure someone used that team in my rookie and I just used double buff Scarlet to nuke (Scarlet/blanc/RH/centi/jackal)
I dont have scarlet, so 2B is the other option
how about privaty sanis?
privaty s.anis anis emilia jackal
Hey Folks!
I've been struggling with PVP for a while now. Both single and 3 squad modes. I have a good amount of mats saved up to upgrade if needed. Let me know if you have any questions. I really appriciate any help!
wait that wont work, my emilia has higher atk than privaty
Not sure, there are some things I think that would work (4RL Noah or Blanc + biscuit) but i haven't tried them personally against that team so I wouldn't want to rec something that might flop
privaty s.anis anis centi jackal
2.5RL burst
i dont normally cook so I'm trying lol
its just rookie arena anyway
the 1hp sanis striked again
they still got indom off on noir, close one
nice
maybe I shud never cook again lol, I'm terrible
whats the SG comp?
like the one that insta kill targets
if it works, it works
last one is this
I used to run blanc rh centi anis jackal until the target skipping started
nah I dont have noah
but mine worked
I put them in deficit
I'd be pissed if I lost lol
@worn field Thanks Zixk! I'll work this tomorrow (just realized that I can't edit my teams for SP today since it is in tally).
prydwen is recommending 10-10-10 investment for Ein? kind of nutty
I find the guy doing prydwen to be pretty meh
i think its fine for getting an idea of ballparking investment/priority but i wouldnt follow it exactly either
did keripo or zixk post somewhere about their thoughts on Ein?
Waos, thanks
Have to pull for her
thanks for linking
S- tier with no obvious counters eh? my mats can only take so much tho
What would you recommend 
For ein? Or just in general
Both
usable in raid and pvp
W investment 
In general id make changes to certain units. Alice Bunny (A tier) , rapunzel (A tier) , scarlet (shes a S tier unit) getting downgrades, Laplace needs a asterisk or split into Normal unit and With Special doll. Stuff like that in general. For Ein specifically Snipers are usually a mixed bag on skills id say shes more of a 10/7/10
Shes a good healer and has the rez, but she tends to be very squishy and dies first lol
dies first
Scarlet to S is kinda harsh 
Considering she defines what you use
And beats
Everyone
Cutting out on ein's true damage is also kinda harsh 
Everything Ein does, buffs her damage
And it does so substantially
whats more is that her scaling is higher than usual, above 1.7
not to mention her true damage scales the more def buffs like Noah's there are
My Syuen analysis never got pinned 
Thats cause she got thrown in the chipper
Biscuit alone won't do it cause Ein can also 1 shot nuke. Needs Noah + Biscuit, but that's not exactly a specific counter cause Noah + Biscuit effectively counters almost everything lol
Just got Jackel, how should I change up my defence teams?
Been losing defence a lot recently
Moran + Biscuit + everyone on team being very tanky is also a soft counter, but only if your Moran is strong enough
My Ein crit Noeita's SAnis for 14mil and 1 shot her lmao. Taunter doesn't do anything against that
s.rosanna & soda 
you make one 
never saw it
@zinc lion
Yes double buffer
You can get away with 1 buffer if the opposing team has no sustain
In which case you are winning by weak AoE nuke + funnels
But double buffer = 1 shot AoE nuke AND strong funnels which can kill (as long as they aren't being taunted by an invuln target)
So to counter a double buffed Ein, you both need to prevent being 1 shot AND taunt all the feathers with an undying taunter
The only two setups are Noah Biscuit and Moran Biscuit Rapunzel
Moran solo may work if you are very invested and they are not
But without invuln, with 6 funnels beam spamming you, your taunter is gonna die fast
@worn field
👍 mb
Yeah
3 B1s in T3 looks quite funny lmao
Can I replace S.sak with Alice? She has ~30cp while most my units have ~15k
Modernia also has ~8k more cp than my other units
Do you think smth with 2 proper teams and a CP pad team would work better than coping on 3 proper teams?
👍
Would I just make a fast burst s.anis and SG team?
Ty 🙏
How does ein do against blanc mirrors, since she’s a sniper, do the feathers make up for low fire rate?
Will keep in mind
Will have to tix Ein since she is good in pvp
Guess this is something i did not expected
First time rosanna dies against that boi
Now 80 pulls

At least I got 2000 gems from SP Arena
I usually don’t get that many gems
The good thing is, I stayed Diamond 2
My bully didn’t rechallenge a 3rd time for 100 gems, and the message was loud and clear. I can beat him. 
next season will be better
Is guilty any good in pvp?
Don’t reset Crown 
Nope, not even for burst gen since she isn't clip.
haha nope, she helps to beat GD
S.Anis already 7-10-9
I did 

Once she becomes 10/10/10 you can feel the power

I just need to mlb her
That’s all I want, and I have 2 weeks to do it
So I’ve been playing pve content and it’s been good and bad
Bad is some of the lost sector areas 😂
But you get 500 gems for 100% clear so I need to do them
And to get lost sector you need to clear main campaign
At least if I can actually do it, I can get temperance cube for pvp
It’s a grind but the story is really good
(this person is lying)

since i can't beat #1 i'll intentionally lose to #2 so he can overtake #1 >:)
Hi, I have strange situation when i am fighting with one of my stal teams with another stal team and sudenly i get information that I loose although i have healthy team and no Nuke was involved. Does any one get this 'bug' ?
yep, sometimes it randomly speeds up fights or skips them altogether after recent update & SU still didn’t fix it
@umbral crown new rival
pve content is good for outpost level generate cores > more cores u level faster it can help your pvp a little
Guilty is situational uses for solo raid / union raid
Thanks, its first time i encounter such thing, and its only when using this team against one of competitors : Noise,Noah,SBS,Biscuit,BSoda . When I change BSoda to Laplace fight is going normally but it always skip and loose when Bsoda is involved.
for weakness element?
Anyone wanna put a lvl 15 SR doll on their Ludmilla for me, pretty please 
Wanna test what a maxed out Ludmilla with SR doll and damage reduction cube looks like (e.g. -85% damage reduction)
waos, so lucky hahah
a new motive to play rookie
i would if i had one

I am not very worry on rookie because the comps all pre-cooked by zixk and its easy manageable 
I play around some of your pre-cooked sp arena 's roster bit by bit too
i mean a reason to play rookie, i do not really have one
Prolly just the same as Nero with max stacks and Moran buff
Add Noah/Noise
Make it 100%
But Keripo are you sure it's additive? @spiral onyx
Cus Ludmilla + Ether isn't.
Can use Moran too.
was there some rule were you had to attack once during a sp arena season to get the biweekly reward?
i'm wonder how i got 2nd place when all i did was shift between rank 3 and 4
It's based on coin accumulated
but 1st and 2nd place havent moved at all
infact i'm pretty sure no one tries to hit them
Looking to start focusing on PVP more. Could someone help me with SP-DEF teams please? Here's my units
Will synchro if needed
I have 36.25% atk on rossana is that enough?
Were you watching them 24/7 the whole season, R2 might be waging some kind of war with some lower rank behind the scenes during your downtime. Coz if such a rule was implemented, someone at R1 and no one attacking then will make them not get any rewards since they can't atk anyone. 
you need to enter the SP arena interface I believe. you dont have to atk, but you have to enter it once
cp difference between 2nd and 3rd place is about 400k, so i'm certain no one bothers wasting an attempt on either
plus R6 uses both his attempts on me every single day
its starting to get annoying tbh, so i might pick on him in rookie arena
that still doesn't explain how i managed to get 2nd place without ever hitting that rank at all
tho i guess i shouldn't complain, 3k gems regardless
If one of the 2 above you never collected their sp arena rewards atleast once during the season they're deemed inactive and don't receive a ranking, by default you would get moved up
this makes sense
Is that CP difference team difference or individual difference each team? If it was just team CP difference it is still doable, specially if its a badly made def teams. Else if its individual team CP difference, then might be what Hoboman said, they just didn't enter the interface
Mmh pretty sure I did this one season and I still got the reward, I atked though just never claimed 🤔
I think it's attack at least once or claim atleast once
total difference, i do have a plan on hitting one of them next season
Did you see either R1 and R2 not on the chip rankings during the entire season?
Do one of the 2 and you get ranked
couldn't tell you, i don't really pay attention to the coin rankings
Not to say what your saying isn't a likely scenario either though merry, I personally think trading with someone lower than him is more likely as well
if 2nd place did switch with r5 at some point, i've never seen it
they would have to spend a significant amount of time as r5 to be deranked anyway
I do this too, no one challenging them except me, but I don't do it everyday, I just wait for long until I see the whale has 20+ hrs last login time. Then the moment I see them 1 hour last login, I take their place, it was always during their next login time (20+ hrs) they take their place back.. but I already got my aim of some coins per hour leverage during that time gap 
I like to hit right before reset to force gems out of them
that only works if they have a crippling desire to keep their position
Trust me the amount of people that do is a fair bit
Nah they won't gem they can just simply cp gap me, the 20+ hours login time meant they got lax on their wariness, so its my sign to take advantage of it.
tho i did do that myself before overload stat boosts accounted towards cp
Though nowadays I just sit in C2 as C1 gets attacked too often and I can't be bothered to time attacks back
The moment they take back their position, I just ignore them again like I hadn't atk them at all during the season until I see a long login time again, and check if I could poke holes on their def again, coz each team they had cp gapped me 
doesn't profile only show the last date they logged on
iirc you can only check time if you have them on friend list
Union info
Check his profile, go to his Union info, then find their IGN, it'll show their last login time
Ur a beast
...interesting
It's not always accurate, but those at 20+ hours last login are usually accurate unless they run Nikke 24/7 and just left it on idle
I don't know, hence the need for testing lol
Should be additive, prior to dolls my Nero was still slowly getting chipped. With SR dolls the damage and heals became break even.. then with cube, my Nero now is healing
@spiral onyx not the ideal setup but here. Moran Burst 10, Lud S2 6
No doll no cube
With SR0 doll
With SR0 doll and DR cube skill 2
what are the moron investments?
Lud gears
All max, 4 def lines
nero,moran, quiry,ludimilla, b3 dps all rd cube? hmm
hmmmmm
that sounds kinda fun
If you ran Lud, don't need to run Nero, I just placed nero there to take the initial SAnis damage preburst
but wheres the full burst
You can just run something like this
Holy, 1 dmg
Is Ein good for pvp?
Decent
Ah alright I shouldn’t worry about building her up then for pvp
checking all backlog later if nothing urgent
My sp cook okay ? 
did zixk respond to u/give u something already?
This time I need your cook

idk i just assumed zixk responded to everyone, link the relevant message here again (copy msg link) and i look after im home
@copper creek
That high investment Rosanna and S.Anis finally paying off 
I couldn’t beat this guy 3 weeks ago because his CP was too high
making new teams in pvp is a slog. feels like it'll take months just to catch them up on power
Doing almost anything to gain ground takes a long while in Nikke, period
All the mats I need to start OLing gear so my bit-part players can survive and gain CP
Skill investments can drag if you try to boost anything past 7
Cubes take a long while to get in campaign and lost sector, and then getting batteries to level them up… especially if you’re not in a good union who takes union raids seriously
The dolls are probably the most tedious. Very scarce kits and odds to level up the dolls. Probably the most gacha-based odds out of all the things to grind for
Beatable ? Thats very high cp
upgrading Sr dolls is actually suffering yeah
Go for priority ones
aka rh / sbs / mod / alice etc
I know know pve 's , pvp better for other veteran to advice yeah
When it comes to dolls, I just focus on one character’s doll until it levels up to max… or I have to focus on another unit’s doll
I tried to do it for multiple characters, and unless you hit on Super Success, it’s too scattershot to build up something meaningful
Until I get Laplace’s SR doll to work with, I decided to focus on Scarlet’s doll
Usually my Scarlet teams are lower in CP, and I want Scarlet to hit really hard on B3… but she needs 2-3 burst gen units and RH to assure a clean nuke. I’m hoping a lvl 15 SR doll alleviates the CP problem yet keeping speed as a priority
It may be flawed logic (please convince me if it is, I’d love to learn why it’s not a solid strategy), but that’s my focus for now
They truly are… it’s good to sit and see what your specific needs are at the moment
So you don’t end up wasting time and mats
For example I just maxed my RH & SBS because I used them 100% of the time
Next doll I focus on maybe modernia, alice or scarlet Im still thinking
Any veterans can guide me ... 
If I were still focused on pve I would have focused on Alice
For pvp she isn’t as much of a priority, as much as that saddens me
I think you need more CP, at least 652,000?
I may have the math wrong
do you have biscuit
Have
Gotcha
the enemy team is bursting at 4RL so it's gonna block your emilia
noah/bisc/centi/sbs/jack
ok ?
A bit odd positions
Holy crap 30% cp deficit
just substitute with higher cp units that perform the same roles
you just need defender+biscuit and a non-emilia b3 to win
noah/noise/sbs/biscuit/centi
sure
If it was even cp you would have won with little problems
Yeah because cp deficit
Bro's 5 nikke maxed out
I believe 690,000+ for 0 cp deficit
i came here to pray to the pvp gods that my next lobby isnt doomed 

couple more months before then
the player changed every 2 weeks?
no, every 3 months
you will know when you see the text "Reshuffling"
Yeah, that's why I'm confused
usually it doesnt really change much, but some players have seen some a lot of changes
leo and i have had 3 wildly different brackets (then the last one was just our bracket + more challengers/tryhards)
back then yea 
o shiii challenger paddybear
gzgz
This reshuffle added a lot of guys that were much higher in CP than before in my group. I think this was after CP adjustment, am I right?
sp - def :
jackal/scarlet/scalter/x.anne/naga
blanc/emilia/redhood/b.soda/centi
noise/noah/s.anis/biscuit/tia
min. invest :
emilia - 4/7/7
s.anis - 7/7/9 (mandatory) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube
x.anne - burst to 4
quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel
tempering cube (not urgent, take your time with this) at your own discretion, priority: noah > blanc > other def taunters & units as required.
i do not advise running def teams on atk.
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order
sp - def :
noah/noise/s.anis/biscuit/drake
sbs/blanc/rh/emilia/centi
ein/scarlet/x.anne/noir/jackal
min. invest :
s.anis - 7/7/9 (mandatory) // 10/10/9 (ideal)
s.anis - resilience cube
x.anne - burst to 4
ein - 7/7/7
quantum cube on anis, centi, jackal.
vigor cube on noise, biscuit, rapunzel
tempering cube (not urgent, take your time with this) at your own discretion, priority: noah > blanc > other def taunters & units as required.
i do not advise running def teams on atk.
atk teams depend on enemy def - refer to pinned messages for counters, mechanic info, and other resources.
alternatively, if really necessary, send screenshots of your opponents' three def teams, with round1/2/3 buttons visible so we know team order
wait - before using this,
question : -redacted-
I needa test it first~ but its better if jackal link to whom in this comp?
no necessarily 'best option', i just might have to adjust based on your answer
actually f it
edited, ignore above question
Reforming
This
Oh

Hmm ok suppose 444 t9m will do

i can believe that
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8thY11062M
this is similar idea comp
at our sync we have 1.4-2m hp per nikke
ein is going to be a very painful nikke to go up against
its fine, you saw the 1buff ein i did
i think shes painful enough with 1 buffer (for our sync)
just leave her at that then , should be ok
lol i might reset liter first tbvh
considering resetting liter -> push my dkw

My liter is 7/4/7
But hoping to get books before reset

I did reset modernia to push a bit Moran

or not, idk but eh
Just use rosanna hmmm
So Ein fever has caught on?
not yet
im just giving him an ein team so he will have a def that looks different from everything he ran before
original cook


Ein is a nice change up for sure
but give me RH uwu
RH is nice
She’s not my strongest because I only have 2 OL, but she’s 10/10/10 for me and has SR Doll Lvl 1
I think she’s top 3 in pvp
send her to me

yeah my new side na acc which is today days old 100% stays, already have rapu & noah on it
me terrorising na sp soon 
hahaha waos
lucky
i had an account on NA and Global but on Na i was not getting any SSRs at all, started global and got some pilgrims and good SSRs, thats why i stayed here
same but reversed haha, was jumping today between glb & na with condition whichever gives me at least 1 useful pilgrim stays bc i need them for pvp & smh it’s always only na that gives me pilgrims and lots of ssrs 

i stuck with my original account and had Blanc and Harran as my best units from the beginning
I could have used another account to reroll but I ended up getting Summer Anis on last year’s banner and stuck with what I had
I was thinking of that but the burst gen handicap of running Moran + Ludmilla is crazy
so - what im seeing is, the american in EU server and the european in NA server 😂
na + jp 
i would chat sht but im SEAsian in EU server too so 
gonna be everywhere i wasn’t supposed to be 
I'll do it for you

hahaha the future is today
successful infiltration 
find me an american wife & i’ll become american in like 3 years, voilà problem with server solved 
Thank you 
What team should I be going for in PVP, I feel like I should be good enough to actually try it now
Reverse mail order bride? 
Da ne za chto

sounds like an anime series hahaha
huh
elysaelia want to be a mail order bride to america ? 😂
it’s still (unfortunately) illegal in japan what can i do 
f i think i overdid it tonight - wanted to take it easy @@
wanted to practice both my shaking and stirred drinks
i've now had a boulevardier, a bee's knees, and a gimlet @_@

oh you want to live in jpn? haha
People say never use attack teams on defense
def on attack
but emi is emi
and also, its the other way round - dont use def on atk
isnt ein better icbm no emilia instead
It Depends(tm)
anyway just run it and try it
you dont have much to lose from running it because u're in low-diamond anyway
most people in that elo generally dont know what to do in pvp
low-diamond" bro wanna fight
Guys, level up quantum now or later?
imagine being in diamond, never.
Like, I need to buy batteries
It Depends(TM)
all of my accs are in challengers
wait for the new lvls+cubes but lv7-8 is fine
if i were you i wouldn't

max level of cubes gonna be raised in september
not 100% sure yet tbh haha bc when it comes to their mentality some things i do agree with but many more i absolutely don’t
frankly I’d start a fight with literally anyone who’d try to insult me or whatever else and be deported 
if i were u i'd wait for that patch first then proceed from there with full resources and all knowledge
rather than taking shots in the dark now
again, unless you're gunning for high challenger+, generally this is not what is going to make the difference
How can it affect my decision 
are there going to be new sources of cubes?
how much cubes can i expect to get per day/week/etc?

how much battery will i need per cube level? is it the same, or are they going to change it?
again, right now, we are just taking shots in the dark and speculating
unless raising those cubes is whats going to make the difference (in your case, unlikely)? i wouldnt do it personally
i didn’t even get to lvl 10, why more 
but again, this is gacha game
there is no winning no matter what you do
so do whatever makes you feel good
honestly
unless you've done the math and know for sure its going to make the difference i would just chill out
but i speak for me only
i dont think there's a correct nor wrong answer
pull all
i mean of course, use emi blanc
its what i use
the easier question to answer is the emi/blanc question

which the answer to that is - yes, it is primarily a defence comp, so why not? try it
it may work it may not work, but if u dont try? you dont know
echo: why im losing?


Ok, I'll use it
anyway you lose nothing from trying comps in DEF
just some ranks but nothing major
if that defence is broken, then just change it again

but again - as i have always said:
Please Never Ever Change A Working Defence(TM)
same tbh

i'll say that its a much nicer place as a tourist than as a resident, but i think this is a more detailed conversation that is better in private than here 😅
It stopped working 
and you did not change?
I'm going to

Gonna use Summer Anis
then yea change it lol
lol rosy
once my current def is broken i'll put my SR doll on ein and put her on def, lets see what people do about her 
skip

Oh.... This is a reason to pull limit breaks no- wait, nevermind, I restrict myself in one per week, or 0 when I pull a lot
if they know lol
i hope that people see ein "oh, no one else in this bracket is using her, thats probably cuz she's bad, lets fight her!" and die 🙂
if no further investment required for my soloraid
i'll open all of them and 4/7/10 rosanna instantly if im not forced to use it all elsewhere
but we see how it goes, i want my top 1% this raid
But there's times when I need to install more than one limit break per week 
no way i make guide for this boss and do all the work to figure out how to beat her to only stop at 3%, no way, that's not me
Hides hoarding well, time to pull 
15 
you should have C7 S.Anis
MLB
And maybe Koharu MLB as well 
from im@s?
yeah we actually came to the same conclusion with my friends after reading numerous stories from ppl who immigrated there from our country haha
Source Flimmaker BlueArchive Animation
⬇️BGM⬇️
Lovely Picnic - BlueArchive
Daily Routine 24_7 - BlueArchive
Unwelcome School - BlueArchive
Original source by NEXON Korea Corp & NEXON Games Co., Ltd
model extract by Re:birth , Azimuth
#ブルーアーカイブ #BlueArchive #블루아카이브
She's so cute when self aware 

hahaha i have my own thoughts, but probably not for here x) happy to chat about this elsewhere if you're ever considering it \o/
Please Shift Up, please SR 
I know you like to put little ones as the freebies

HUH
you want to get who in trouble with the police ?
my hopes to see echo with C7 S.anis in pvp went to the other world
nikke 2 is the way
I like that she's against lewd 
Maybe I get 3 copies in 15 pulls (or literally nothing)
Chihi?
you have in mind your new defense?
I'm not sure about the third one
for now what are your 2
I got nothing in a 10 pull 
Emi Blanc RH Noir jackal
Moran Pepper Biscuit Summer Anis and Anis SR
Additional resources worth referring to
(that aren't in the original pinned msg here: #pvp-arena message)
**Collated by @worn field: **
You can view the links here for counters in Rookie and Special Arena (SP):
Prydwen:
- Meta units - https://tinyurl.com/4ffcu6sx
- Special Arena (SP) - https://tinyurl.com/ycxnsjrv
- Rookie Arena - https://tinyurl.com/43u6a2z4
- Special Arena (SP) - https://tinyurl.com/2p8222fy
From 瑟瑟出品's Youtube Channel:
- Rookie Arena Videos (CN) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm7TApldE9QBb5aaQizIrIX0PMmTOZFJo
- Special Arena (SP) Videos (CN) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm7TApldE9QBCIBJXz6gxKHcf54BEuT3Z
- Special Arena (SP) Videos (English) - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLm7TApldE9QAqccQN3wgMufgcxWC1D26f
**Additional resources by @spiral onyx: **
- Ein: Initial Analysis - #pvp-arena message
- S. Sakura: Initial Analysis - #pvp-arena message
- Recommended priority for Favourite Items for PvP-focused players - #pvp-arena message
@copper creek's stuff:
- Distributed Damage: Mechanic Overview - #pvp-arena message
which units are left for 3rd team?
thought i can try cleaning the pinned, ^ lmk if i missed anything

you missed the chance to steal echo s gems to spend them all on S.Anis banner

if u need help with sp.a teams, maybe send ur box
now munch is sober to cook some original teams
idk what u're missing lol

max out S.Anis
sorry, u said something? 🤣
drink time

even better, a drink t make some strong teams
@keen vapor
Unsynch units aren't invested
Overloaded units pretty much starts from Biscuit
@copper creek
give some teams with that drink
lazy
I don't get the missing Pilgrim gears 
Except for that Pilgrim support helmet for Rapunzel
after all this time playing, lie 1 week ago i got the last piece
for a complete attack pilgrim set
dont singles lol
just lick the stamp and send it
lmk what u want me to add if u want
Blanc/Emilia/Red Hood/Noir/Centi
Moran/Pepper/S.Anis/Biscuit/Rapunzel
Scarlet/SBS/Crown/Anis/Jackal

What if Blanc dies for being 47 levels behind 
if you want, you can send here by part so i can united it and share it again, zixk.
I couldn't beat Crystal Chamber 
open your boxes, issues solved

why are you still hoarding CD boxes? whats stoping you?

nikke 2 
then you can not complain when you are losing to people with lower cp
im starting to think there is a nikke 5
I need to do more damage
And for that I need more levels
But for levels I need core dust
But I need to keep core dust to increase it in outpost levels
But to increase outpost levels I need...

also, new mission pass is up, please claim before reset
C'mon
I only got Summer Anis 2 times and 2 spooks in a hundred... Oh, that's the average SSR count 
already did
arigatou
Team 2 too slow btw 
4 RL?
you have enough slots in your syncv dev?
Yeah, enough
lul
Because I need order 
you should buy at least +2 slots per month or when SU add those 3weeks event
So I need to aim at Challenger to pay it 
that could work
This hoarding wasn't made in a day 
This bread is making me hungry
reset
1rock
train? 

what are some cheap teams for ein






