Operation: Desert Storm Faction Pack (ODSFP)

[south lynx]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-meme-food-bowl-persian-annoyed-cucciolinodipanna-gif-13484529227984596079

[summer rampart]

Will each faction have their own or will it be universal? As in the Model itself

[obtuse plank]

we dont know,he is in sleep

[gentle sail]

@peak bridge I think you should give people m16-A2 with auto

Many people complain about that burst mode only

[obtuse plank]

M16A3*

[obtuse plank]

and that is only for navy

[gentle sail]

I think there is no A3 in SDK

[obtuse plank]

can make it auto by coding

IRL:"am i a joke to you?"

[gentle sail]

but A2 has auto mode

dont need to make him harder

[obtuse plank]

in my memory of gun and war crimes,its only bursts,no autos

[gentle sail]

there is a enhanced model

[obtuse plank]

made by other company*

maybe you talking about canadian C7 series

[peak bridge]

yee, I've got models lined up for each faction so far

[summer rampart]

M777 for the US or something else?

[peak bridge]

m102

it's a lighter gun t

and iirc the m777 didn't enter service early enough

there was some reason I went with m102 instead of m777, it was either that or the m102 was free and m777 wasnt

[peak bridge]

i hear ya but im not going to, if people want full auto they can play the full auto factions, US is the only one with mostly burst weapons

[obtuse plank]

the us forces have m16a3 but that is for navy and selling.

very weird to add it

[peak bridge]

and the a3 came a lot later

[obtuse plank]

yeah,like how i did in my bed

[obtuse plank]

i mean woke up

[gentle sail]

Well, this is up to you. I'm just a messenger 😉

I personally don't care and I don't play anyway

[obtuse plank]

everybody arguring about it?

about the m16a2

[gentle sail]

Some people asking, but when i change to france people complain they dont want it. I have no idea how to make them happy

[peak bridge]

idk why they'd complain about famas, it's just m16 but better but ah well lol

people are weird

[gentle sail]

I know, but like i say, for me is not different, I have no fun to play with minecrafters.

[peak bridge]

lol

[obtuse plank]

i m a doorstopper

[gentle sail]

I can back on desert when we get helis back.

[obtuse plank]

yes you should

khafji awaits you.

[gentle sail]

my favorite to fly is Jazirra

[obtuse plank]

blackhawk down eh?

i got idea but you wont take it,and not even for a server

[gentle sail]

Not exactly that, it has everything, buildings, hills, rivers, bridges and definitely has more FPS on my PC

It's more compact, Khafji is just big flat.

[obtuse plank]

but.

its fun and good for me

and it gots multiple capture routes

[gentle sail]

Same,big flat

I can fly on it, just prefferJazirra

[obtuse plank]

at least no farm grounds that could stuck my trans

[supple halo]

Ponchovie they're doing things with your mod again

[peak bridge]

oh

my

god

[supple halo]

I think because friendly fire explosives are off makes it so the humvee will survive the explosion

If that's not the case there might be another bug

[peak bridge]

yea

Def limiting these lol

that's a ridiculous amount of explosives

[supple halo]

It's bad when you cause a framerate drop

[nocturne glen]

lmfao he almost crashed the game

[nocturne glen]

plz no

[peak bridge]

that's fucking crazy lmao

[cinder drum]

My work))))

guys so you understand when there was a white screen during the explosion I thought there would be a screen of a nuclear explosion lol

[summer rampart]

Freindlys were still able to kill me with C4 i was inside a Vic

[cinder drum]

plssss noooo

[gentle sail]

Yes, we dont want to play with frame drops or crashing the server

[cinder drum]

😭

[jovial cobalt]

😭

[cinder drum]

kamikaze 2.1

kamikaze 3.0 Tomorrow

hehehe

Guys, why am I and my clan the only one that really does something special? I haven't seen anyone else do something like that or do something that others haven't done.

at least start doing the same thing as we do, we make a suicide car, we completely build a house with walls and defend it, we play a sabotage squad

I really want to die at least once from a suicide car while in a Lav-6 or BMP-2M, because it would be fun

[peak bridge]

just my guess but probably due to the language barrier, players that don't speak English are gonna have a harder time understanding how to use the mods features and less likely to communicate

[cinder drum]

the english speaking community needs to find creative guys like me and my clan

[fierce yew]

cries in fob builder

[jovial cobalt]

When will the artillery be ready?

[peak bridge]

not a clue, could be next weekend, could be June

depends on how much time I can commit to just the arty and not bug fixes and QOL

[fierce yew]

man, being sl fob beaver with a demo guy is all you need, this mod gives the best matches in the game

Building fobs while demo guy is sabotaging and scouting, and occasionally bombing enemy habs. Its the best

[hollow linden]

[hollow linden]

dw, you should be able to kill a friendly vics as long as there's someone in it

but the second you get out that's when you know the truck is gonna get deleted in less than 2 seconds

at least that's kind of a plus if I do solo bomb car

[supple halo]

Hotel Company hasn't been able to get together to run operations lately. We have special things too don't worry

[nocturne glen]

tbh idk why they are killable when empty, seems insanely exploitable and easily griefable.

[peak bridge]

yea

[nocturne glen]

The game has had a drop in players after the update if we had more people 1000% this would get exploited to shit IMO.

[cinder drum]

were you in the car with me?

[fierce yew]

Nononono thats a very good thing. You should be able to blow up a truck when it gets stuck

If wish people were blowing up their vehicles, then they wouldnt be at the frontlines

[nocturne glen]

What's better is some sort of unstuck mechanic instead of having to TK vehicles.

[cinder drum]

с4 - armor

https://youtu.be/4VfrBK6_YoA?si=uIqNK_blCpEUhWgd

[fierce yew]

Imma be real I dont trust the OHD devs to make a good unstuck feature

And even if they did, its gonna take months to implement again

[cinder drum]

Yoshi, when you fix your mod, expect your helicopters to be filled with explosives and used as FPV drones.

[nocturne glen]

Amazing

[gentle sail]

It was said many times "From now on there will be more frequent QOL updates"

Currently, work is underway on all those little things that make the game difficult.

[fierce yew]

all of em?

[gentle sail]

Yes

Not everything can be predicted but developers are watching closely and it seems that at the moment most of the problems are known.

[hollow linden]

uhhhh

[gentle sail]

Gatolizer

[fierce yew]

@gentle sail do you still have the purely desert storm server? or is it gone now?

[gentle sail]

Yes, is mixed with causal but was to late to get people on

[fierce yew]

ah so no more servers for it without casualfield then?

[gentle sail]

So long we dont get vanille vehicles recycled without mod

Is the only way to get the vehicles recycled by mod atm

[peak bridge]

this works suprisingly well

not flawless but well enough lol

[obtuse plank]

old gaming belike:

now

man,IED cars are every where in my mind...

[cinder drum]

and imagine, you're driving to lav 6 thinking how cool it would be to destroy equipment but a motorcycle full of IEDs appears

[obtuse plank]

insurgents

[obtuse plank]

son of a C4 -----

[fierce yew]

playing desert storm mod on a server wihtout logi trucks is torture, 15 mins a supply drop and then hoping it lands near teammates

[gentle sail]

Dude, you can refill your ammo from M113

😉

or "Shitbox"

MT-LB

[peak bridge]

yoshi can add the tag "HD_Logistical" to any vehicle and make it a logi truck so that this isn't as bad of an issue

[cinder drum]

it would be a good idea to give this flag to mi 8 and black hawk. they are used for logistics transportation

[peak bridge]

tru tru

@nocturne glen

[peak bridge]

it's either that tag or "HD_Logistics"

either way it's only that way for my mod

[nocturne glen]

Yar

I give prob to everything but ifv and attack heli

[torn bane]

Prob?

[cinder drum]

MTLB and M113? BTR, Striker and Lava lack this?

[nocturne glen]

Probably

[torn bane]

I didn't quite understand the whole message

[nocturne glen]

Ill make these vehicles logistics:

Mrap
Brdm
M113
Mtlb
Btr80
Stryker
Uh-60a heli
Mi-8t heli

[torn bane]

Wow

[cinder drum]

Короче он хочет добавить свойство логистических грузовиков техника с его мода

[torn bane]

Уже понял

[obtuse plank]

beautiful as gatos

[narrow bobcat]

"I will add the gameobject tag, so this list of vehicles will be treated as if they were a logistic truck for building."

that should make a bit more sense to the russians. ❤️

[supple halo]

Much appreciated

[peak bridge]

early days still, but this thing is LOBBING these mfs

still gotta do a whole bunch of replication shibbs and reloading mechanics

plus balancing

[cedar condor]

holy fck

[peak bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-cannon-gif-4170817779665105455

[peak bridge]

reloading is in gang

[obtuse plank]

give that to me for a gato

[nocturne glen]

What does this mean?

[peak bridge]

yknow, max ranges, damage, ammo counts, resupply rates, shibbs like that

[supple halo]

Infinite ammo, infinite range, infinite damage, no fire rate cap

[supple halo]

@peak bridge remember that anti air SAM buildable discussion we had?

Someone made an interesting point in #1110291763941355691 that reminded me instead of a SAM site, a TOW launcher or other mounted manPAD or manPAT might be viable in place of it. They wouldn't be automated, but increased accuracy, more flight control, and more ammo would be the bonus for building them at a FOB

Maybe have it be something only the AT guys can build if there's a FOB nearby. Encourages every member to build something

I know arty is current priority, but just some food for thought

[peak bridge]

the thing about the Sam is that it's easier to implement than a manned turret, but if we get emplacements in the near future then I'd absolutely add manned stuff

[peak bridge]

AFTER 3 HOURS OF REFACTORING THE CODE BASE TO ALLOW THE BUILD LIST TO BE CHANGED ON THE FLY

fuck i forgot its mkv

WE HAVE

RELOADING

its still pretty rough, as i got it working maybe 30 seconds before recording that video

but most of the major gameplay mechanics for the artillery is done

you can place it, reload it, shoot it, move it

all thats left is resupply and the logistical chain

and animations/polish

[supple halo]

That music is synced so well too holy cow

I gotta organize a HC squad for this

With Yoshi refactoring some Vics as Logistical assets, does this mean they can transport arty ammo?

Also, is it possible you could post some preset mils for certain angles and distances? I feel like trial and error in a match with the computer will end badly

[peak bridge]

810 mils / 45 degrees elevation is roughly maximum range for each charge bag, above that you get higher arcs/longer travel times, and below that you get flatter trajectories and shorter travel times

1 bag = 1km
2 bag = 1.75km
3 bag = 2.5km

but ye I'll throw some pre calced angles on the gun

[nocturne glen]

Wait u cant split the bags?

Unplayable

[peak bridge]

whuh??

[nocturne glen]

/s

[peak bridge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1317624951448146011/1332160202082095238/togif.gif

[narrow bobcat]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-cat-mad-face-annoyed-as-hell-no-chance-in-gif-15497985

[peak bridge]

thats a good idea, ill try and work that in so they can also transport ammo n shibbs

[supple halo]

Not sure how easy it would be to tie the ammo to the logi identifier

[peak bridge]

id probably alter the tags on the vehicle on runtime, use one tag to mark as logi and another tag to keep track of current ammo, and a third to keep track of maximum ammo

@nocturne glen if you wanna give this a headstart, ill make the tags HD_AmmoCarrier_Ammo (number) and HD_AmmoCarrier_MaxAmmo (number)

no idea how im gonna do refilling those vehicles tho

maybe ill just have the howitzer crates add an actor component to vehicles nearby that have the HD_AmmoCarrier tag

and then use that for ammo tracking and refill

have it fill up again when near nonrecapturable flags (aka main base) or on a timer

[supple halo]

Is it possible to tie the value in a similar fashion to health and vic ammo, the driver could get a display of it and could be refilled at HAB

[peak bridge]

idk, probably not since both the vehicle and the HAB are part of yoshis mod

so i cant access them from my mod

[supple halo]

Ah, i see. Expected as much

[peak bridge]

yea, but main base rearm seems like itd be possible

[obtuse plank]

hwo is this gotta work tho?

[supple halo]

Could you tie it to the Main Base protection status? Like if you're within that the rearm counter goes up or smthn?

[peak bridge]

the component every 5 seconds will grab all nearby flags, and if they have the Recapturable check disabled (meaning a main base), then it will resupply some amount

so if you are in the main base, you will just keep rearming the arty ammo

[obtuse plank]

thanks for da guide.

[supple halo]

That actually seems really efficient

What's the spread on the arty? Is it as bad as the mortars?

[peak bridge]

yeah, and then it will also do the same in reverse for refilling the pallets, component grabs all nearby crates every so often and adds some ammo to it from the vehicle's pool

[peak bridge]

its pretty tight, but the gun will shift when shooting

[supple halo]

Ooo

[peak bridge]

so you need to keep adjusting it if you wanna smack the exact spot over and over

[supple halo]

Interesting

[peak bridge]

otherwise it will drift off target a lil

but thats one of those balancing trial and error to find where the fun is

[obtuse plank]

nah,id win,i will use iraqi pickup truck with mortar in back.

[supple halo]

So what I'm thinking is FOB at main, 3 arty, MTLB or 113, forward support

[peak bridge]

real asf

[obtuse plank]

play some HOT music.

[peak bridge]

i think im gonna adjust the collision for the pickup so you can actually lay down in the bed

[supple halo]

Tbh the manuverability of that is unparalleled. If a 4 man squad knows what they're doing it becomes relatively unstoppable

[peak bridge]

what also would be lit might be letting the player put ammo pallets in the back of the pickups so they can just drive the whole pallet to main for refill

[obtuse plank]

no ----.

[peak bridge]

maybe overpowered tho

prolly not gonna do

[obtuse plank]

of course,my friend,its no over powered

only out powered

wait.

arty on pickup

WHNE

[peak bridge]

REALLL

so busted having a pocket arty

105mm technical

[obtuse plank]

anti air missle,WHEN?

or aa guns

[peak bridge]

later, after artillery

[obtuse plank]

---- yeah.

[supple halo]

Now we can do tailgate meetings in dead servers and have car shows

[peak bridge]

may make this minimum spacing smaller

idk tho

looks dope asf

[supple halo]

Drop it by maybe a quarter of a meter to half a meter. We should be able to entrench the arty behind a minimum 5 hescos imo

We get 15 hescos per fob right? Or is it 10?

[obtuse plank]

doesnt matter,we have arty

[peak bridge]

iirc its 10

but ye ill drop it a lil

[supple halo]

5 Hesco wide, 3 sandbag sides (1 on top of the other, 1 next to them), and sandbags enclosing the ammo and charges

That's my ideal arty setup

[peak bridge]

new left, old right

damn, you aim these right you can nail some precision shots

[obtuse plank]

sure,yeah

[obtuse plank]

i love destorying fobs with this

[peak bridge]

with a full nine person squad, 1 person working elevation / fire controls, 1 person on traverse, and a loader, across the three guns you could get some NARSTY fucking artillery on a point

[obtuse plank]

make it a air strike.

[supple halo]

Gah dayum that shit punches

[obtuse plank]

so we can spawn it with Cmdr

[supple halo]

Can't wait to teach Hotel Company how to run this stuff

[peak bridge]

we already got something that fills that niche, its called a 500kg bomb

[obtuse plank]

i think i know how to operate this

[supple halo]

I will cry when one of these gets dropped on me

[peak bridge]

its decently simple, ill also have to add this to the tutorial level and put some effort into that to not leave it up to groups like HC to teach players

[supple halo]

I would trust you with the fire button and elevation and angles Ryder

[obtuse plank]

tell me to angle,and the range,and let me do ikt

[supple halo]

We'll probably do it anyways. We're looking to get our own private servers eventually and I'll definitely encourage the adminis to use your training map for... well, training

[peak bridge]

yea

but ye, this shits gonna be so sick

[supple halo]

Definitely going to need larger maps after this. Khafji should have been the standard

[obtuse plank]

start one then

[supple halo]

That implies a few things.
I know how to program
I have time
I have money
I have the patience
I have the energy

I have none of these and thus, cannot do such things

Macho however can, is, and will be making a map

[obtuse plank]

sly can help you maybe...

[peak bridge]

mild over tuning

keep in mind btw

hate math

[obtuse plank]

no,be an adult,hate the whole class

[peak bridge]

bam, now its what i wanted

[obtuse plank]

me also

[peak bridge]

you can barely even see the rest of the map lmao

crazy how far 2.5km is

those blips are individual rounds with debug spheres 20m across on them lmao

through the airstrike designator

[supple halo]

G9d it's going to be quite difficult to coordinate shots without map markers

[peak bridge]

yeah, really wish we had a consistent scale for the map squares, or at least if we keep a 10x10 grid we list what the scale of those squares were'

[supple halo]

Gonna turn into SovietWomble at 7:40
https://youtu.be/W3WSoYK3m0A?si=z3OoFJHecNYkpmmb

[peak bridge]

crazy shit lmao

[supple halo]

"That stupid piece of paper"

[obtuse plank]

damn.

[cinder drum]

the mortar you will never find

[obtuse plank]

on the damn pickup

[cinder drum]

MrPonchovie you can add to your mod browning from mod mktstc, his files are posted in the public domain and I think he intended for his works to be in other mods. All the mods that he created are not in the steam workshop

and please make it so that if you install a Browning on a pickup, the Browning stays on the car and we get a death machine

[peak bridge]

logi system is now functioning, will have showcase video tomorrow, too sleepy tonight

so the tags can now be added to vehicles ahead of time if you want @nocturne glen

[peak bridge]

HD_AmmoCarrier_Ammo (number) HD_AmmoCarrier_MaxAmmo (number) HD_AmmoCarrier

needs all 3 of those tags to function as an ammo carrier for the artillery logistics

dont know how to id display the inventory counts on modded vehicles

but we ball idk

[peak bridge]

gun now animates when firing as well

[hoary basin]

can you make vanilla ammo crate work like that too? 👀

[peak bridge]

we had that in the early phases of the mod, it was more annoyance than it was worth, maybe when logi is more fleshed out for vanilla

[hoary basin]

maybe making the range the same as to build a FOB has makes it easy enough to not be an annoyance.

[peak bridge]

oh yeah, and when you hold out a construction tool, you can see the no build zones (scaled up for visibility)

[supple halo]

I definitely feel like for ammo crates it should stay at infinite replenish for now. Realistically theres more than enough ammo on those pallets for some 300 mortar rounds. Down the line though, logi should be able to resupply basic crates as well

[peak bridge]

yea agreed, i like logi stuff in games, its just we have neither the playerbase experience nor the supporting features to do that for such an important build piece like the ammo crate

im fine having a limited logi system for the artillery since its an optional thing that more organized players can run for fun

[supple halo]

Gun looks absolutely stunning though. I'm surprised how quickly you got this all pushed out. Feels like yesterday when we first discussed the idea

[peak bridge]

but core features should have a much better system

yea im surprised as well

ive been only working on it a couple hours a day, but also most of my weekends the past couple weeks have been solely dedicated to artillery and almost nothing else

[supple halo]

Hey, so long as you're having fun

[peak bridge]

yeah, love modding so im having a blast

cant wait to play this

[supple halo]

Were going to need 4 km² maps for this soon. I will lose my mind if I have to find a way to protect the emplacement on something like risala or jazira

[peak bridge]

oh yeah fs

[supple halo]

Peak efficiency for arty seems like the following: Field commander designating shots, bearing and fire calculator, distance and fire control, loader, and Logistical supply runner (only if you're not set up by the MB. Considering the range)

[peak bridge]

if you want even more efficiency, youd probably want a second fire control to work the traverse, since the traverse and elevation controls are on opposite sides of the gun

at least for the american M102

[supple halo]

Yeah that's the bearing guy. Couldn't find the words i was looking for

Actually I see how that's more efficient since you have to update the computer before firing

[peak bridge]

ah gotcha

[supple halo]

Field commander could probably do that. They're just relaying fire mission data to the ones adjusting

[peak bridge]

ye tru tru

[supple halo]

The though of a 10km² map with a uh 60 hovering over a FOB "dropping" resources for the arty position makes me foam at the mouth

[peak bridge]

thatd be so fucking awesome

thing is too, since i have it so that any vehicle can act as an ammo carrier with the mod as long as they have the tags, helicopters absolutely could deliver ammo

[supple halo]

That's another idea, rather than have a limited number of buildable items, have each one cost a certain number of supplies. FOB itself costs, let's say 20 supplies and can store up to an additional 200 supplies. Ladders and pallets cost 5, sandbags and roofing cost 10, hescos cost 20. The numbers could be changed (i did this just off the top of my head, severely unbalanced) but an ammo/supply carrier could refill a FOB with supplies and that fob goes from a tinny little outpost that a sniper, and mg, and a mortarman have made their home into a fully functioning main base more or less.

[peak bridge]

exactly the kind of thing id wanna do if we have a more robust logistical system

[supple halo]

There's still plenty of holes that need filled, but the current arty system is a massive step in that direction

[peak bridge]

crazy that this took a whole month to make, from initial design to near completion

pretty sure all I have left to do is tutorial shibbs and some bug fixes

sadly, new construction UI ain't coming with this patch, ran into some roadblocks that I'm not sure how to overcome that'd make the menu damn frustrating to both use and to make

but we should be good to go for next weekend if nothing else comes up

[supple halo]

Hell yeah brother! I'm sure UI improvements can wait for a little while. You're doing great stuff man.

[obtuse plank]

great thing,now logistics are needed now.

[cinder drum]

At what distance from the explosion does a player die from a bomb?

mortars are just not as effective as in real life or squad because we can't measure distance on the map or using markers on the map

I think the same situation will happen with artillery

[peak bridge]

roughly 35m, still tweaking that tho

[supple halo]

Which is why the people who understand it will use it. At absolute lowest effectiveness you need 3 people: someone who knows where to shoot, someone who knows how to shoot, and someone to bring ammo to shoot.

[peak bridge]

well something came up, work's been busy as a bitch so I haven't been able to do anything on the mod since sunday

postponing the update until the first weekend of may

then I have a 4 day weekend to finish up the things I need to get done for the update

[supple halo]

So many things are happening first week of may for me this is hilarious

[peak bridge]

lol

[obtuse plank]

any updates on le arty?

[peak bridge]

no, week's been hella busy so haven't had time nor energy to work

[obtuse plank]

oh,sorry,you can take your rest now.

[peak bridge]

getting close to launch

expect today or tomorrow

[peak bridge]

aight, tutorial level update is gonna come later cuz theres some major crashing shittery going on with it, but everything else is done. so for the time being ill push the update without it today and write up a manual for people to translate and read on the workshop page while i solve the crashing

[supple halo]

Absolutely splendid. Love everything you do Ponchovie!

[peak bridge]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3476045112
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3151282430

Mod is updated, and the new ODSFP Manual is now live as well (since i have now hit the character limit for workshop descriptions)

CHANGELOG 5/4/2025

• Limited C4, 5 per person per variant, for a total of 20 placed charges per person
• Switched Commander kits to their own construction tool
• Fixed supply airdrop having a build icon when it shouldnt
• Major under the hood improvements to the construction system
• Fixed Rally Points being able to be dug down
• Added Artillery guns to each faction as a Commander buildable
• Added Artillery Propellant Pallets and Artillery Ammo Pallets as Commander buildables
• Added ability for Supply Airdrop to carry 250 artillery supplies, and can resupply pallets up to 25m away
• Changed logistics trucks to carry 80 supplies
• Main bases now refill logistical trucks at a rate of 5 supplies every 5 seconds
• Fixed coalition ammo crates using the same model as the iraqi ammo crates
• Added new tags for vehicles
  • HD_AmmoCarrier - Marks a vehicle to have a Ammo Carrier component added
  • HD_AmmoCarrier_MaxAmmo (Number) Says how much ammo a vehicle can carry
  • HD_AmmoCarrier_Ammo (Number) Says how much ammo a vehicle starts with
• Added mils reading along side degrees reading for range finders and airstrike designators

[supple halo]

Just spent half an hour converting mils to meters. Peak firing range with 3 charges is at 870 mils for 2474 meters of range with 22 sec travel time

Not perfectly accurate yet but were getting there. this is using 30 mils to 400 mils. Y value is distance, X value is mils. Purple line is line of best fit. based on the max range I found that line is still very wrong.

[obtuse plank]

bro cooked a five star meal.

[supple halo]

Ladies and Gentlemen, may I present...

The mils-meters range calculator

[peak bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/james-franco-the-interview-surprised-shocked-gif-7691197

fuck yeah dude

[supple halo]

I've only got single charge estimates rn but if this 102 works how I expect it to it'll just be a factor change

.03% margin of error

[peak bridge]

seriously impressive shit

[supple halo]

Hey ponchovie, did you put a firing limiter so you can't blow yourself up?

[peak bridge]

not likely, whats a firing limiter? like minimum arming distance or smthn?

[supple halo]

Minimum firing distance. Gonna run some tests but it would let me fire under 60 mils/ somewhere between 27m and 164m

[peak bridge]

oh yea nah i aint got that, i think itl be funny for people to direct fire these at stuff

[supple halo]

interesting. Can you join modding 1 rn. I could show you

[peak bridge]

yee 1 sec

[supple halo]

Some key things I picked up:
Max ranges:
~1025m, single charge, 780-800 mils
~1475m, dual charge, 800 mils
~2485m, triple charge, ~790 mils

Min ranges:
~49m, single charge, 0 mils
~69m, dual charge, 0 mils
~89m, tri charge, 0 mils

Adjustments:
+50 to -10 mils elevation after firing
50 mils right to 10 mils left after firing

Range calculation WILL INCLUDE BUILDING COLLISION. Adjust accordingly

Ponchovie is great.

Friendly reminder that you cannot shoot if a shell will land in spawn protection, even if its your own. Also applies to mortars

[hollow linden]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-cat-rigby-cat-cat-stare-rigby-tongue-gif-12118654088387148905

1 shot a panzer let's go

[peak bridge]

yea it's 15k damage so anything it direct impacts should be cooked

[supple halo]

Highly impractical, definitely worth trying

[hollow linden]

why can't I fire the artillery on certain elevations

[peak bridge]

likely spawn protection, it might be pointing towards a spawn flag, including one of your own

[hollow linden]

oh wait just noticed that rn

https://tenor.com/view/komaru-explode-nuke-button-cat-gif-4127386105392241206

[supple halo]

Bruv... it was in my test notes...

Oh, Ponchovie, to simplify the multi charge range calc process so I'm not running around a 102 like a chicken with it's head cut off, how are you adjusting the range per charge? Is it a set factor or something else?

[peak bridge]

the only thing that changes between each charge is the initial and maximum velocities of the rounds, by a set amount

its 10k for 1 charge, 12k for 2, and 15.5k for 3

not a clue what measurement its in, but those are the values

[supple halo]

Noted. I'm sure my high-school level physics degree could solve this problem

What's the max travel time around max distance? It's around 22 seconds right?

[peak bridge]

i think so, might be closer to 30 with 3 charges

[supple halo]

Noted. Thanks.

[supple halo]

Okay so I cheated a bit and used GPT because I'm missing too much data and can't convert things accurately without the game running.

[peak bridge]

nah real enough bro, just double check in game to see if its accurate

[supple halo]

Am going to when I get back to my PC

[cinder drum]

MrPonchovie

The Saudi Arabia faction was taken from the Middle East Alliance faction squad?

[peak bridge]

no, it's based on the Saudi Arabian military circa 1991, with some creative liberties taken for gameplay. using assets from sketchfab and the ohd mod kit

[cinder drum]

and I have a question what is planned to be added in the near future? and in general, have you thought about creating your own server where there will be a Yoshi mod and your mod at the same time? all your factions will be used there

[cinder drum]

and I thought it was taken from the squad because of the similarities in weapons

[peak bridge]

I've given it thought but I don't have the time or resources to do that. especially not moderate it

[peak bridge]

ye makes sense, both pull from the same region of the world

[cinder drum]

the problem with loyal games is that they don't use desert storm for some unknown reason. but in general I think it's because your factions were used together with casual Field and not with vanilla technology that would give the player gameplay similar to the reality project

to be honest, the death storm mod is one of my favorites, but it's a shame that your work remains in the shadows because of the "smart" community

"smart" community - kids

[supple halo]

from what I've heard there wasn't that big of a demand for it. People were prioritizing CasualField over the Mortars and when the Logi updates kept rolling out it messed with a lot of things. Specifically that Vanilla vics necessary\ for the build mechanics featured in the DS mod cause massive server latency and desync.

[cinder drum]

damn casual field. I hate it. I have nothing against the developer of his mod, I'm sure he's a normal person, but it's a pity that the community chooses to turn OHD into Battlefield 2042 (these people checked the box that they want a game similar to Battlefield and tomorrow they forgot about OHD, that's how important their voice is)

[peak bridge]

yea, sly said it was cuz players didn't like using older guns, which like ig makes sense but ah well. I hope some server host picks it up at some point

I hope once the logi system is more fleshed out players come back to the mod

[cinder drum]

What are your plans for the mod? or were you thinking of creating another one?

[peak bridge]

further content was planned like British and Kuwaiti forces, but since I've started my new job I havent had the time nor energy to mod. plus finding decent quality assets for British and Kuwaiti vehicles and uniforms is a bastard lol

in the future I may try out more stuff, but for now I just don't have the opportunity to mod

[supple halo]

Question for either Ponchovie or anyone who has run the ODS mod on a public server recently.

At what point, when combined with Yoshis Vehichle mod and without vanilla vehicles does the server become unstable (major lag/ rubber banding). What steps might someone running a sever need to take to reduce this lag?

[cedar condor]

Tracked vehicles apparently hurt the performance. Maybe putting it at 56 max players and removing tracked vehicles, that can ensure pretty solid performance

And making sure bots are not turned on whenever it starts getting full

[supple halo]

Hey Ponchovie, does every artillery system have the same firing system? Like the shells will go the same distance at, say, 100 mils elevation for both the US arty and the Iraqi arty emplacements.

[peak bridge]

ya, the only difference between the two is the visualx

[supple halo]

Thanks

[fierce yew]

This mod is the only thing bringing me back to the game, glad to see it on top of the server list again. I love that you can now use enemy logi vehicles to build FOBs, its a lifesaver on servers with broken logi truck spawns.

[peak bridge]

that's a bug lol

but glad you enjoy the mod

[fierce yew]

The new commander class is effective against preventing airstrike spam. I do think its a shame the supplydrop is also tied to the commander, as theyre essential for servers with broken logi truck spawns. Most sl's just pick commander class because its on top of the list, and dont even know they can drop them (let alone actually do so)

Theres also a divide between logi and arty when it comes to the truck, as stationary arty wants to use it to drive to the backline and logi wants to move it to the frontline. Having the option to call in the supplydrops would also help with this, but i am not sure if that aligns with your vision

I do get that its kinda cheesy and a fix for something that you didnt cause

.
The arty system is geniunely incredible when we have access to it, ur mod is miles ahead of the base game

I really hope someone hosts a properly configured DS server some day

Its also still really hard to find where the suppy drops land ;P

[peak bridge]

yeah it is a dilemma, I'll have to play more matches to find out a good balance solution

[peak bridge]

is it really moving around that much from the designated spot?

oh wait map markers

that's what you meant

[fierce yew]

I honestly dont really know, but it never goes where I want it to and sometimes I straight up dont see it

I dont think it needs changing, just an indicator to know where it landed

[peak bridge]

yeah, I'll see what I can do, probably a hud marker like the flag sword and shield

visible to squad leaders

[supple halo]

If you need any help calibrating the arty or understanding the operational ranges (because the elevation is measured in mils) I personally made a range chart that works for most small/medium maps. Feel free to DM me with questions. Ponchovie approved of it and there's a poll in #💬general_chat rn to see who wants to learn everything related to the DS mod (arty specifically). I might lead a class at some point ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[supple halo]

Again, its a bit of a training issue that I'm going to aim to fix. Forward SL/Commanders should aim to prioritize using airdrops for FOB building (or yoshis HABs if available) due to the ease of access, survivability of the AD, and the (theoretical) unlimited number of them. Logi trucks should ALWAYS be back line units. They're paper thin, small in seat count, and have no way to shoot back. They're better suited for arty emplacement construction as well as their reuseability as ammo carriers.

[fierce yew]

the ohd map grids are not accurate correct? do you have a legend of grid ranges of different ohd maps?

[hoary basin]

Khafji map's grids are 400m long. The rest are 200m for what i've tested

[cedar condor]

Jaziira is 2kmx2km, Risala 1kmx1km

I think Al Dhakir is 4km

Tan Binh, Carentan, and Saint Quentin are 2km

[nocturne glen]

would be nice one day if the grids were part of the map UI itself instead of people putting it in the map texture

[cedar condor]

I agree

Can think of it like a paper map for now lul

[fierce yew]

I am trying out the arty stuff now, but i am unable to interact with the gun at all. In singleplayer it works just fine, but on the server it doesnt respond to my inputs. Doesnt matter if im commander, sl, mortarman etc

I see other people are able to use it, no clue why it doesnt work for me

I've got the whole setup, just cant interact with the range/azi adjustments or the pellets

What are the requirements to use the arty?

[peak bridge]

are you in the squad of the commander who placed it?

it's not made clear but that is a requirement to interact

[fierce yew]

I placed it down as the commander

Does another commander have to place it for me?

[peak bridge]

huh, then it should be letting you use it

did you change squads maybe? tho it might just be bugged out if the server lagged

[supple halo]

Most grids are 200m × 200m, the only exceptions are Al Dahkir at 300m × 300m and Khafji at 400m × 400m. A little trig and guesstimation should get you within 100m of your target. Use a spotter squad to adjust your fire.

[torn falcon]

Well that's the shit, nobodu was anwering for drop spotting shiz

[hoary basin]

I suggest to give building artillery to an squad leader kit that doesn't require more than 3 members to unlock. Why? Because artillery are supposed to be on the backlines Which means there are like 3-4 extra players that aren't effectively fighting in the frontlines because their commander is busy doing artillery stuff to build rally points to attack the objectives. Also, commander has 2 abilities that incentivizes you to stay in the frontlines: supply drop and airstrike. These abilities can't work at the same time with artillery management.
So something like a squad leader kit called "artillery officer" unlocked once you reach a 3 member squad to make building artillery easier would be good to see them more often in matches while the rest of the team can focus on fighting on the frontlines.

[supple halo]

Part of this can be solved by having a reliable group of team mates. Hard to get w/ random matches but I might be able to solve some of it with the training I'm planning

Although giving the SL kit the ability to build arty should be a thing (if it isn't already)

[cinder drum]

MrPonchovie right now your mod is popular, what are you planning to add? maybe you will add ied for iraq, and also give him mopeds? ied just make it 2 times stronger than now and also a melody and a delay before the explosion

I will do jihad

[peak bridge]

nothing at the moment, too busy to do stuff with modding. bug fixes might be all I can manage for a while

[cedar condor]

It's fuckin amazing as it is. Real real solid. Thanks for the hard work Ponchovie

I'm glad the server caught people's attention, thanks to your mod

[cinder drum]

MrPonchovie sigma

[supple halo]

@peak bridge whats the damage radius and fall off for the artillery?

[peak bridge]

max radius I think is sitting around 35m and the falloff is some exponential thing so that it doesn't guarantee a death for infantry sitting at the 35m line

cuz the damage is 15k or sm shit like that

so that you can nuke vehicles with a direct impact

[supple halo]

Ladies and gentlemen

I present

2 Charge range equation with calculator

[peak bridge]

heaaaaat

so what's the x and y parameters representing?

[supple halo]

x is the mils youre calculating, y is whatever your desired range in meters is

[peak bridge]

oooo sick

[cedar condor]

Dude that's amazing

Good shit dude 🔥

[supple halo]

Imma do a couple of rounds of ABI and then make a tutorial for the calculator

Its scarily simple considering the equation is already there

[supple halo]

Interesting discovery about the calculator

The software I'm running it on (desmos) is actually really versatile when it comes to the devices it can be run on

That and its capable of being run via web browser

So as long as the Gun Section Commander or the Fire Direction Crewman (specifically the one assigned to traversal) has either a dual monitor set up or a mobile device with internet access, they have access to the calculator

[narrow bobcat]

a reminder, steam overlay lets you pin things over the game.

including steamwebhelper tabs.

[cedar condor]

[supple halo]

gonna have to try this. Or maybe Edd can after I finish the manual for it

[narrow bobcat]

shift-tab, then open any website in the overlay.

[supple halo]

Thanks a bunch

[narrow bobcat]

can probably do it with the xboxlive dashboard too

[supple halo]

I swear this isn't a virus

[narrow bobcat]

PDFs can be naughty, but that one isn't big enough to be.

<iso8601> also, what's the 13th month? that's weird. </iso8601>

[supple halo]

I put all my file versions in dd.mm.yyyy

[narrow bobcat]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_8601

[supple halo]

to not upset a majority of the world

[supple halo]

Ah, I love xkcd. Might have to fix all my formats to match

[narrow bobcat]

it's a really nice, natrually sorting, format

(not my image)

the easiest method to get it in windows, is ask for "English (Sweden)"

works great in android which doesn't let you change the date display settings otherwise.

[hoary basin]

So... When c4 is going to do damage to structures? I mean they do damage but its so insignificant that 2 c4 cant disable a FOB or to change the state of a HESCO wall

[supple halo]

That might be against vanilla fobs. The health is different for some reason. Friendly fire is also off on C4 if I remember correctly. Not clue how to help otherwise

[cinder drum]

MrPonchovie, could you please reset the amount of explosives placed by player 1 to 10 or 15? Or increase the explosion power, 5 is very low.

[peak bridge]

updated to latest version, seems to all be working fine, lemme know the moment yall run into issues. Make sure to unsubscribe and resubscribe from the workshop for it to update properly

also, brought the OPs to the vanilla standard, so now they play identical to vanilla OPs (or at least should, might be one or two under the hood things that prevent them from being identical)

along with some other shibbs

[cedar condor]

Oh shit

We gotta get arty back in the servers

[hollow linden]

Bugs I found during my gameplay:

• range calculator doesn't work
• supply drop only showed once it's landed
• Iraqi marksman rifle (SVD) have a broken scope

other than that it's pretty solid

love direct firing the artillery

[hollow linden]

• arty does not work

:(

[peak bridge]

Explain? I was using it just fine a few days ago with eddcast

[hollow linden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuJcqCCpkHw

[cedar condor]

@peak bridge I never saw the artillery we were firing actually land anywhere. Not sure if you and the other guys did, it's weird because I can see all other artillery and mortars but I can't see my own

[peak bridge]

bruhhhh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1327465462249951284/1396679314442813500/attachment.gif

[cedar condor]

AAAAAAAAACCCGGGHHHAGGHHH

[peak bridge]

This bug pmtfo lmao it was working fine not too long ago the hell changed

Like the projectile exists on the server ig but then doesn't execute or replicate shit for client so it don't do anything

[hollow linden]

https://tenor.com/view/komaru-explode-nuke-button-cat-gif-4127386105392241206

istg if the next update break a lot of mod

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-try-drink-soda-gif-20588652

I will start tweakin

[peak bridge]

im gonna tweak

so apparently there was some change to the projectile system and so they (the arty/airstrike/mortar/etc rounds) are being spawned on the server, just never on the client? so they do all the stuff they normally do like damage stuff and spawn stuff (which is why you cant see the construction drop until it lands) but never are on the clients end?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1317624951448146011/1332160202082095238/togif.gif

[cedar condor]

[torn falcon]

Well i have a problem of the supply drop not even appearing at all(even after the supposed landing, or rather on the ww1 trench map not doing it)

[placid quarry]

Yeah but only on the originator. As was said before, I can see OTHERS but I can't see my own hits/shots when artying.

Also great mod, thank you.

https://tenor.com/view/saddam-hussein-iraq-fact-checked-gif-5905880316295382591

[peak bridge]

oh i mustve missed that, thats at least a little better lol, thanks for the info

[placid quarry]

Same with airstrikes. I don't see my own "splash" but i def see others.

[cedar condor]

That's why I just send it either way, doing artillery and airstrikes even though I can't see it, I know others can and I'm bringing them that immersion lmao

https://tenor.com/view/luthen-rael-luthen-rael-star-wars-andor-gif-5644261169390854326

[placid quarry]

The Immersion:

https://tenor.com/view/run-explosions-gif-13620594

[peak bridge]

that was the key to look for, turned off client prediction for my mod's custom projectiles and they now appear on the owning client

much appreciated

[placid quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/everything-is-fine-all-ok-okay-chemical-ali-iraqi-war-gif-20754054

[peak bridge]

gonna do a once over of the mod rq and then ill publish the fix

[placid quarry]

Now you have time to fix the Dragunov scope.

Or the Arty calculator.

[placid quarry]

Also fun observation, folks are putting HE and powder charge pallets on top of the arty.
Calculator seems to work once but doesn't refresh after the first calculation.

[peak bridge]

Interesting, thanks again for the info

[bronze narwhal]

hi just to let you know the auto rifleman role is broken on the dev build for the US. the gu n doesnt spawn in their hands and floats kigh above/behind the character

[peak bridge]

Thanks for reporting, I'll put it on my todo

[bronze narwhal]

np

[cinder drum]

Ahh..hello?

[nocturne glen]

https://tenor.com/view/stitch-licks-slime-gif-7826310196799265789

[west mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/grilled-cheese-obama-sandwitch-gif-4924256749593181294

[peak bridge]

first of all, what the fuck lmao

also secondly, thats cool asf

[hollow linden]

That's a thing?

[placid quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/saddam-hussein-iraq-fact-checked-gif-5905880316295382591