Last time i check their security still shit
#off-topic
magic wharf
nah, it happened once at the start of a game or around that
i got my account stolen back then too
lapis radish
Still happen though
lapis radish
i got my account stolen back then too
Lucky you
magic wharf
it took me a month to return it 
lapis radish
Their stupid customer usually useless af
magic wharf
Still happen though
nah, now it's just user fault most of the time 
like, people using shady services to buy primogems etc
lapis radish
But like
magic wharf
for some services you literally required to send your login details
lapis radish
Their requirement to get account back so dumb like
What was your first purchase
And other
Who even remember that
magic wharf
What was your first purchase
that's reasonable tho
lapis radish
And even if you got that correct they still refuse
magic wharf
Who even remember that
your bank 
magic wharf
And even if you got that correct they still refuse
yep, they can, my friend lost account to that
he provided all that asked and still got refused
but it was back then, now idk
marble lion
pine thorn
zealous narwhal
boreal hedge
Is blue protocol ever coming to global?
inner pilot
lament prairie
Is blue protocol ever coming to global?
+recent delay in KR which is a region thats most accepting of grind etc
so seems like it might never come to global at this rate
uneven bay
Is blue protocol ever coming to global?
don't expect much from blue protocol global. Censorship, and region lock ruin the launch. you can't play it from SEA
south lake
man,a nasty fever got the best of me and i was out cold from when i sent that message to now
In 2022, mihoyo's revenue was 27.340 billion Yuan (3.844 billion USD), with a net income of 16.145 billion Yuan (2.27 billion USD).
lime epoch
Iโm sitting here thinking Mam talk to insurance about your payment I only provide the codes Srry
lime epoch
man,a nasty fever got the best of me and i was out cold from when i sent that me...
Aw Iโm sorry hope u feel better
south lake
Aw Iโm sorry hope u feel better
magic wharf
<:shirotonguee:1176142037507133550>
south lake
so seems like it might never come to global at this rate
the delay killed the hype
sly ember
man,a nasty fever got the best of me and i was out cold from when i sent that me...
It's fine. I had to take the whole of last week off work for exactly that reason. Practically shivered to death
Being sick is fkin awful
south lake
Being sick is fkin awful
charred pawn
I love getting dupe SSRs itโs the best
what am I going to do with this exact same weapon
jade crow
e2 gepard from standard banner ๐
stiff compass
hello guys i need to change my team they became old what is the new best dps team by names pls thx
queen ferry
marble lion
meta fun if grind
lime epoch
e2 gepard from standard banner ๐
Dinner ๐๐
Luckily this can be a multi prep meal bc itโs made into batter so thereโs lots of batter to use
jade crow
https://tenor.com/view/flail-excited-squee-gif-19174081
i dont need him 
im pulling fuxuan next
and alrdy have huohuo and aventurine
lime epoch
i dont need him <a:crying_anim:930841985156284497>
Can I take him on a date pls
lime epoch
south lake
lime epoch
Y u eat catto nooo cannibalism
pine tundra
<@337950806483402753>
maiden verge
lament prairie
runic tulip
sly ember
Why is this glitch still a thing? 
charred pawn
glitch?
looks like they were just too lazy to draw the same gun at different angles itโs copy and pasted
rose matrix
shy tartan
I prefer buying the nemesis figure
lapis radish
<:shirotonguee:1176142037507133550>
lapis radish
This just 1 skin ?
boreal hedge
Is it possible to change region in wuthering waves?
Omg we can. Tof never had it until now
Wuwa is surpassing all expectations
lament prairie
i just hope the initial 5 day revenue thing i keep seeing posted around is wrong
tof kinda made about that much in its first day with 1/8th of the staff and recycled assets etc so way lower running costs
inner pilot
lament prairie
river eagle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCbrzEOVurg 3 MCs and their stalkers
lapis radish
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCbrzEOVurg 3 MCs ~~and their stalkers~~
def not copy paste from other trope in Japan
sly ember
The WuWa one is literally Arlecchino Lite
Also Ayaka may lowkey just be deranged but is exceptionally good at hiding it 
lament prairie
it's hard to tell in WW
as everyone acts that way towards the mc
its chosen one harem izekai term spam trope stuff turned up to 11
not even really done in a fanservicey way either just a bad writing/cringy way
as an overreaction to the cbt1 cn stuff
the 90% rewrite kinda fully ruined the story
lapis radish
when will we ever have Normal relationship in Gacha game
lament prairie
that revenue though ouch
seeing people fight a ton over it and not just on the subreddit
like i get the whole ''female banner char will sell more maybe'' thing
but with how many technical issues they keep adding i dont know why people are expecting like a 6x leap
honestly id be surprised if most players are still around by the time the banner is up at this rate
sly ember
not even really done in a fanservicey way either just a bad writing/cringy way
I love Yangyang but holy hell, woman. Back the fk up for a sec
@lament prairie Google Translate slip leaked into a regular conversation lmao. A name got mistakenly translated as literal
wise laurel
I love Yangyang but holy hell, woman. Back the fk up for a sec
yangyang clingy?
sly ember
yangyang clingy?
She is practically head over heels for the MC for no particular reason
She has everything going for her as a likeable character except her voice-acting (which is probably just a recording quality issue) and this incessant "Oh, MC. You're amazing~" mindset
If Chixia was in Yangyang's position, it would have made sense. Chixia atleast has a more vibrant personality
tropic mesa
that revenue though ouch
They made 10mil within 5 days i dont think thats bad
magic wharf
They made 10mil within 5 days i dont think thats bad
dude banner btw
sly ember
They made 10mil within 5 days i dont think thats bad
I wonder how it would have been if Yinlin was the banner char
You start the game's gacha life with a dommy mommy not-Kafka, you're bound to make larger waves, financially and in publicity
magic wharf
They made 10mil within 5 days i dont think thats bad
also, don't take him seriously, he's tof fanboying hard, to the point it think he's on payroll or something
tropic mesa
I wonder how it would have been if Yinlin was the banner char
We will see next banner
sly ember
I just know that no matter how good Jiyan is now, he's just BEGGING to be powercrept
Kit is way too simple
magic wharf
other game's issue even if small is a BREAKING NEWS, HOT TOPIC, LOOK HOW TEY FAIL
meanwhile he presenting tof as an ideal game, even with dead updates like 4.0 is
sly ember
Just hope Kuro doesn't embrace ToF and actually gives us some decent male characters
Not that I hate booba paradise, but dudes in a game with combat done by Kuro could be a nice mix
Bard bruh you've been pessimistic for a whole two months 
magic wharf
Just hope Kuro doesn't embrace ToF and actually gives us some decent male charac...
well, so far so good, male design on part with female imo
tropic mesa
Maybe scar can be after her i know alot of people likes scar
magic wharf
Bard bruh you've been pessimistic for a whole two months <:WorryPat:867498715668...
nah, it's just annoying to see, i tolerated it for so fucking long
even male rover looks good
sly ember
well, so far so good, male design on part with female imo
Ye. Unlike ToF. Where we have:
-Little white haired boy with knives
-Guy in black cloak
-Edgelord military kid
-Tian
-MC
Jiyan genuinely looks like a 5* male character. Very nicely done
sly ember
nah, it's just annoying to see, i tolerated it for so fucking long <:fenrirkek:1...
I get ya lmao. Just not used to seeing you of all people being as vocal about it as you are (that's Minty's job)
sly ember
even male rover looks good <:annahmmbella:1063002542281347133>
YEAH BUT HIS VOICE THO
The personality of a plastic bag
sly ember
Like legit, compared to Aether in Genshin, who had the strained, clueless tone of voice befitting the MC of a fantasy game
We have male Rover, who sounds like a McDonald's employee at 10pm with an upset stomach
sly ember
his idle voice lines*
They are so damn frequent. But ye. One of them just cuts off before he finishes
magic wharf
more than one
sly ember
Only time I ever heard it fully was when it played but the game lagged and I went into glide. Genuinely forgot what the end of the line was but I heard it
magic wharf
Like legit, compared to Aether in Genshin, who had the strained, clueless tone o...
genshin mc talks VERY rare tho, i think he started talking first time somewhere in sumeru
sly ember
Uhhhh pretty sure Glacio is blue, don't you think, game?
magic wharf
Uhhhh pretty sure Glacio is blue, don't you think, game?
huh
wise laurel
(im currently sick)
sly ember
genshin mc talks VERY rare tho, i think he started talking first time somewhere ...
Also attributes to why when I hear him talk I'm like "AYO HE SPOKE"
Whereas Rover I'm like "BRO. Just stfu already"
wise laurel
Also attributes to why when I hear him talk I'm like "AYO HE SPOKE"
Whereas Rov...
i hate it when mcs speak
i automatically jump from the highest cliff when they do
magic wharf
i'm fine with it tho
magic wharf
not just in story, in gameplay too
wise laurel
i was gonna ask "but can he beat tof mc" but lets real, anyone can beat tof mc
even low budget cyborg vergil
WHOM I HATE
DIE FRIGG
sly ember
not just in story, in gameplay too <:annahmmbella:1063002542281347133>
He's failed the audition for Persona 6 so now he's in WuWa
magic wharf
tof mc is so insecure he's impersonating others to look good
sly ember
Every Echo is a Persona
sly ember
tof mc is so insecure he's impersonating others to look good <:annahmmbella:106...
"I wonder if I've taken enough care of Shirli...i feel so guilty..."
Sure bud, gaslight yourself. Your occupation lists "babysitting a grown-ass woman with family issues"
wise laurel
tof mc is so insecure he's impersonating others to look good <:annahmmbella:106...
tof mc annoys me with their weakness and stupid self blame
shirli got future cancer
not my fault
also not my fault that zeke was built SHTUPID
sly ember
ToF MC has doormat mentality. Does whatever people tell em to do without question
wise laurel
i also hate it when i get cooked by the whole roster
or when i cook in gameplay
BUT IN THE CUTSCENE
LIN STEALS MY KILL
I WILL GIVE YOU A ONE WAY TICKET TO HELL IF YOU STEAL MY JOURMENGANDER KILL AGAIN
sly ember
ToF MC truly is weak if we count just cutscenes. We've been saved, rescued, na covered for ever since Astra Shelter
wise laurel
ToF MC truly is weak if we count just cutscenes. We've been saved, rescued, na c...
agreed
tof mc garbage
sly ember
Genshin atleast, cutscene-wise, we've literally gone toe to toe with gods and Harbingers
magic wharf
also not my fault that zeke was built SHTUPID
bro, real, Zeke is fucking whimp
even more than mc imo
wise laurel
built like a mop made of a stick
sly ember
Rover meanwhile is something else. Fends off a Crownless all by themselves and fucking EATS them (with their hand)
wise laurel
HOW DID WE LOSE TO A CYBORG KID WITH CANCER
HOW DID WE EVEN MANAGE TO BECOME AN EXECUTOR
bro like honestly only way tof character can be buffed is by unlocking all memories, maybe our true combat skills are locked because shirli and zeke are the beginning of our memories or sum
also
i see the pole dancer has been released
it is my duty to do everything in my power to not pull for her
sly ember
it is my duty to do everything in my power to not pull for her
The temptation shall win
You will submit to the scantily-clad police officer woman
wise laurel
Lies
truths
only way ill pull her is if i get free character specific pulls
after that, im done
sly ember
only way ill pull her is if i get free character specific pulls
Why do you hate her?
They're promoting the game from inside the game
Shameful
lapis radish
Genshin atleast, cutscene-wise, we've literally gone toe to toe with gods and Ha...
still an idiot who poke nose into whatever fking business around
not bother to do what they intend to do
lapis radish
Genshin atleast, cutscene-wise, we've literally gone toe to toe with gods and Ha...
later on get shat on by everything
sly ember
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
THE BEST PULLS HAPPEN RIGHT WHEN I FINISH WORK
YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS
wise laurel
Why do you hate her?
banges
gentle grove
river eagle
magic wharf
s6 
open geyser
f2p
my guy still playing this game
I love how other streamers have "drops" in title... WuWa choosed the "sub some streamer (exkl. prime subs)" for there first drop even on twitch... I hate this
since they payed more to twitch to be in this top section (reward campaigns) category
if we would add a second normal drop with code, that would be nice (just my karen opinion))
final nebula
I love how other streamers have "drops" in title... WuWa choosed the "sub some s...
I will disagree of them being in top cuz this kind of drop this drop mostly help streamers more than wuwa itself
if they had regular drops the amount of viewers will be higher
but this drop sucks to people who wont sub or cant afford it like i dont want to subscribe cuz it is costy for me and it is greedy drop
drops should be for everyone
open geyser
I will disagree of them being in top cuz this kind of drop this drop mostly help...
yea thats why it would be awesome if they had a second drop
rewards are not that nice, so u dont miss much but they could have done this like minecraft
1 free drop and 1 pay drop to support streamer
but I prefer donation over subs to support streamer, they get also a good cut of it the drop event (its not like they dont get anything to promote this)
but they atleast mentioned that on twitch in the description to use normal sub 
...not like minecraft where its only listed on blog page
lapis radish
my guy still playing this game
At least the dude dont have bad opinion about gacha
Gaming
magic wharf
there's no point in co-oping before data bank lvl 15 anyways
sly ember
An interesting gameplay element
cunning karma
.
lament prairie
They made 10mil within 5 days i dont think thats bad
tof made 7m in 1 day with a way smaller team
and that was just cn
zealous narwhal
sly ember
lean raptor
They're promoting the game from inside the game <:annahmmbella:10630025422813471...
I saw a girl with glasses omggg thanks :3
final nebula
okay wuwa is actually a very good game so far but i have 1 complain beside the story
the lack of world music is actually starting to be so noticeablel
like sure i like hearing my character talking but i dont want to hear yangyang breathing for 5 hours straiht only add some music
lean raptor
okay wuwa is actually a very good game so far but i have 1 complain beside the ...
surely yes, I just play ToF and Terraria a lot and it's enough to me 
my hot take also: Terraria is one of the best game ever made
final nebula
it is all opinion based i am just talking about the lack of things when you just walking in the environment
both games you said will have music on at any point of game not just the wind sound and the character i thought i have music off somehow
lean raptor
both games you said will have music on at any point of game not just the wind so...
oh yes about the music yes, I just wanted to tell that I don't play a lot of games so I don't know a lot about other ones x3
final nebula
thats fair
but mostly you want to have something playing
you dont need a complex music just something chill at least
music basically only play during story or boss fights
lapis radish
my hot take also: Terraria is one of the best game ever made
Minecraft somewhat feel more freedom
My hot take : roblox not that bad tbh
lean raptor
music basically only play during story or boss fights
thats not that good yes ^^'
lean raptor
Minecraft somewhat feel more freedom
Just my opinion: 
I was a big Minecraft enjoyer, since it came out, played for like more than 10 years, until I discovered Terraria, of course Minecraft is a sandbox so more freedom, but personally I wanted action, boss fights. But mostly a game that respect players, and don't try to milk players (just a game, not more than 15 bucks and that's all, and mods are more accessible and easy to set up) for the cost it's actually what I would call what a good game should be like... But I still like Minecraft, I just feel sad for how the game went ^^'
lapis radish
Never trust Microsoft again
hearty schooner
my campus at the night
Five night at campus
sly ember
I saw a girl with glasses omggg thanks :3
For an NPC, her eyes are an amazing shade of green. Gotta hand it to Kuro, they know how to make NPCs stand out
sly ember
https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-forza-crash-ram-rod-car-gif-15275701
The only thing you'll ever be good at
sly ember
my campus at the night
Outlast 3 leaks
lean raptor
For an NPC, her eyes are an amazing shade of green. Gotta hand it to Kuro, they ...
yesss
ember roost
lime epoch
tof mc annoys me with their weakness and stupid self blame
I hope story wise it improves
zealous narwhal
no cat at the campus ?
lament prairie
open geyser
Lord have mercy, you need UL22 in WuWa to fkin do co-op
welcome to the club
still not that lvl since I'm a lore guy
but damn except the main story of certain characters, its soo boring
and I think some of them are qucik shorts of other mmos
inner pilot
lapis radish
Also regarding hsr being somehow famous @sly ember
I think its more of the Playerbase stupidity
And how well Hoyo game handle marketing
That why we got this dumb down version of turn base game
open geyser
magic wharf
I hope story wise it improves
no
magic wharf
No?
no
tof mc has the same mindset and personality as in the very start
he's just a tool that everyone uses when needed
sly ember
welcome to the club
TIHI
sly ember
I think its more of the Playerbase stupidity
HSR diehards are some of the stupidest people I've ever encountered. Sorry not sorry, but I mean every bit of that
Just the most vile and blind/high people I've met
lapis radish
Hoyo game
jade crow
<:WorryPat:867498715668283422>
idk if i stop or keep going ๐
lapis radish
HSR diehards are some of the stupidest people I've ever encountered. Sorry not s...
More like Hoyo fanbase in general tbh
magic wharf
for fuxuan
why, pull boothill
jade crow
๐
lapis radish
HSR diehards are some of the stupidest people I've ever encountered. Sorry not s...
They prob the reason why we have like yellow paint ladder or white paint to climb
magic wharf
They prob the reason why we have like yellow paint ladder or white paint to clim...
that's one on ubisoft i think
lapis radish
Fair
sly ember
idk if i stop or keep going ๐
Fu Xuan is super fkin good especially if paired with a shielder and one warhead of a main DPS
Highly recommend getting her
sly ember
They prob the reason why we have like yellow paint ladder or white paint to clim...
Not even red barrels can deter them from effing around and finding out
magic wharf
Fu Xuan is super fkin good especially if paired with a shielder and one warhead ...
what are you fighting that you need two tanks 
sly ember
what are you fighting that you need two tanks <:miahorror:1090001975711645756>
Whatever the fk the endgame mode was called. MoC or some shit
magic wharf
my teams with fu xuan almost never have a healer even
sly ember
Back when Swarm enemies first came to MoC...back when I actually played, my friend beat it (only just) with Fu Xuan, Gepard, Seele, and SW
sly ember
Yeah well he has Fu Xuan and I have Jingliu
But nah. My burnout of HSR was so fkin bad that I'm probably never coming back
lapis radish
Same
lapis radish
The game just bored me tbh
Before like any team is viable
Now everywhere i go
Break team
Shield break team
sly ember
Same fkin shit on the same fkin maps with the same fkin enemies with the same fkin characters day in day out, with small snippets of story in a setting that was just BEGGING to be fleshed out for plot
magic wharf
are you talking about hsr?
sly ember
Shield break team
The shield break mechanic pissed me off so much coming from Genshin. Was so used to COMBINING elements, not fkin matching element to element
sly ember
are you talking about hsr? <:lanhmm:1201109238081134632>
Ye. I mean sure, all gachas are repetitive garbage, but HSR just takes the cake
Just did not vibe with me, and the more I look back, the worse it gets
magic wharf
you can't be more wrong that that, especially after penacony release
lapis radish
The shield break mechanic pissed me off so much coming from Genshin. Was so used...
And the element shield break that demand you to bring this certain element to break them
Just annoy me so
I build like this Dot team
But guess what
magic wharf
And the element shield break that demand you to bring this certain element to br...
most of turn based games do it
lapis radish
Dot dmg almost never good at
sly ember
Team comps felt super rigid because of that
In Genshin, say you fought Azdaha. You can bring any goddamn combination of any goddamn anything. Burning? Do it. Overload his ass? Do it. Superconduct and Phys him? Do it
You didn't need Geo to break his Geo shield all HSR style
magic wharf
one of the best dps teams in HSR is a dot team
another one now is break team
sly ember
you can't be more wrong that that, especially after penacony release <:fenrirkek...
Yeah well I quit just after Dr Ratio, with no plans to come back
Opinions are subjective, Bard, as I'm sure you've noticed in off topic lately
lapis radish
one of the best dps teams in HSR is a dot team
another one now is break team
Dot too slow
sly ember
I have no love for HSR or its players, and prefer to keep it faaaaaar away
magic wharf
it's like i'm talking with people from year ago
magic wharf
Dot too slow
ahahah
sly ember
it's like i'm talking with people from year ago
You kind of are, considering that's when I left
magic wharf
best story imo
sly ember
best story imo
I respect that. But the gameplay, for what it's worth, is not worth it. Atleast in my opinion
lapis radish
Tbh
Have they not introduce the wall walking thing
And actual skip button
I might stay
magic wharf
lapis radish
The wall thing make me kinda dizzy
magic wharf
yeah, they should "smooth" camera a bit there
sly ember
zealous narwhal
sly ember
https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-yinlin-anime-mommy-red-hair-sitting-gif-1...
Don't tempt me, Bard. I'm already on a super lucky streak
magic wharf
i'm thinking about pulling her
i have calcharo too, so there's almost no reason to skip
sly ember
I don't have Calc but I've locked him in for the choice banner
With Encore being my likely pick off the free 5* ticket
jade crow
7th 50/50 won in a row
lament prairie
7th 50/50 won in a row
open geyser
zeke
lament prairie
meanwhile i fail the 75/25 on the lc banner
sly ember
I saw a girl with glasses omggg thanks :3
This is her up close 
sly ember
Like seriously, you'd be forgiven for thinking she's a playable character
And her role in gameplay is literally like Genshin's city reputation stuff
That's it
lean raptor
This is her up close <:mialove:986665774439604285>
OMGGG
wise laurel
W-what happened in Banges???
frigg wooped our arse
open geyser
sly ember
frigg wooped our arse
There's more salt in your words than one particular Turkish chef could sprinkle
lament prairie
Like seriously, you'd be forgiven for thinking she's a playable character
tbf they're making shelly a polymorph
might happen for any npc in the 4.0 city which is nice
unlike other games where we dont know if theyll make npc's characters
technically i think tof is the only 3d open world gacha one thats doing that
(ik you're speaking about another game just the whole i wish npc's was playable thing doesnt apply so much to tof anymore i guess)
lament prairie
plus we get accseories etc to make characters closer like the green mages with the steel back halos in d9
inner pilot
wise laurel
monkey abberant?
final oak
Having to take a break to watch the eruption in iceland. It's massive today
final oak
oh nuuuuuuuuu. Ice queen strikes again
sly ember
I'm gonna be honest, people around me have gotten unlucky today. Especially in gachas
I'm just gonna, like...
lime epoch
tof mc has the same mindset and personality as in the very start
Well hopefully beyond now things change I know weโre happy to help but others need to do work too
lapis radish
I'm gonna be honest, people around me have gotten unlucky today. Especially in g...
to replicate same luck
we need to replicate the method
that right
we gonna cheat
sly ember
we need to replicate the method
Work an office job
Work from home that day
Pull within 3 minutes and 16 seconds of turning off your laptop
lapis radish
Crowd boo Ubisoft after announcing Rainbow Six Siege Membership subscription
jesus christ
at this point
lapis radish
they might as well put SUBSCRIPTION in everything
final nebula
claim it once done so you dont miss it
game developement companies are trying to go to
subscription mode
instead of owning games
you subscribe
๐
drowsy slate
how strangetastic
lament prairie
TODAY TWITCH DROP 50 DARK CRYSTAL + GOLD NUCLEUS
lapis radish
subscription mode
well we did have quote from some famous people
Consumer get used to not own the Product
Game company : why do people keep pirating us , we don noting wrong
sly ember
@lapis radish it all begins again. Surprise surprise, it's Ubishit again
https://www.ign.com/articles/rainbow-six-siege-fans-boo-999-a-month-membership-announcement
lapis radish
<@473144712702853120> it all begins again. Surprise surprise, it's Ubishit again...
they might as well put subscription in everything they made
no wonder i pirated all their game
old game
charred pawn
booooo we donโt want to have servers to play on
lapis radish
look i play their shitty r6s game for year then i gave up
sly ember
To be fair its an optional membership that just gets you premium stuff, tier skips etc
But it's a shockingly scummy thing to add in this far into the game's existence
Just vibes like Ubisoft trying to milk every last dollar from the brand
lapis radish
yea no its legit Scum move
they literally been doing nothing but remove game feature
make game less fun
new update only consist of almost nothing change
only less and less fun
magic wharf
I don't have Calc but I've locked him in for the choice banner
i got him on 33rd pull from choice banner, and verina from beginner on my 29th pull
wise laurel
yo male mimi is cool
magic wharf
yo male mimi is cool
huh?
magic wharf
oh, he's not volt tho
wise laurel
just finished act 2
wise laurel
oh, he's not volt tho <:annahmmbella:1063002542281347133>
yes but dragon
when do i get to use my purple weapons
so astride is like dc right
ember roost
Twitter
lament prairie
that's just reporting the earlier estimate which seems kinda sketchy
given people can see the mobile store revenue ranks
proud python
True I don't trust it
Also there is nothing to spend money on
How can they even achieve that number
raw oasis
Decent
lament prairie
also the other estimate put it at right next to the amount tof got in one day for cn
i kinda get why the store placements are so low though even without the new stuff
like the wrong paid weapon descriptions they're trying to give people one pull as compensation for (no not just one weapon affected)
whales are mad
inner pilot
lament prairie
honestly seems like a ton of stuff is wrong
when people go hire a proofreader at least for important stuff this is why
jp is kinda used to special treatment too given they usually spend the most (not the case here cause of stuff like this)
magic wharf
that's just reporting the earlier estimate which seems kinda sketchy
but of course you will say that, tof is the only successful game after all
lament prairie
but of course you will say that, tof is the only successful game after all <:ann...
we have the official revenue reports of that
but it was way higher in charts etc at start
and with 1/8th the team size and using recycled assets etc
the operating costs were a lot smaller on top of the way higher revenue
magic wharf
sure, it's only official and believable if it's about tof
magic wharf
and with 1/8th the team size and using recycled assets etc
stop this nonsense, hotta is pw subsidiary, i don't give a fuck how poor team is, it shows from day one
in other words, not an excuse
on the contrary even
lament prairie
stop this nonsense, hotta is pw subsidiary, i don't give a fuck how poor team is...
thats what im saying, it shows on day one
the other estimate which is in line with the actual store rankings
has them at making the same as tof did in 1 day just in cn
but in 5 days global
this isnt even getting into the fact hotfixes keep adding new issues
magic wharf
what tf are you talking about
is there a real reason why you cherry picking every other game but not tof?
lament prairie
read the link
magic wharf
or is "hotta is small" all your excuse to ignroe EVERY FUCKING PROBLEM that exist in tof since DAY ONE and STILL NOT FIXED DESPITE having those 600+ mil?
lament prairie
it's not really excusing the issues in tof to point out ww's chart position is ridiculously low for how early it is given extreme bugs and lackluster compensation to some major ones
magic wharf
but you sure have all the time in the world to search for every small problem in wuwa
lament prairie
people's standards arent what they were
and wuwa costs a ton more to operate given giant team size
so its performance initially is especially bad
magic wharf
people's standards arent what they were
sure, that's why tof is still alive
lament prairie
but you sure have all the time in the world to search for every small problem in...
im just on discords where this kinda stuff gets talked about
and these arent small issues
JP are reporting them to government bodies etc over it atm
magic wharf
im just on discords where this kinda stuff gets talked about
why not one there talking about tof problems?
i don't think i ever saw you pointing out some weird shit in tof
lament prairie
as you'd know if you bothered to read the link
magic wharf
you always finding EVERYTHING, about EVERY game, typing PERAGRAPHS about how "BAD" those problems are, even if it's not true at all
but 4.0 with 0 story and no gameplay seems to be a good for you
where those 600mil+ go?
i don't see improvements
it's even worse now
they gave us 3 minute main story quest
we waited it almost a year
it's very hard to make games, especially for hotta i guess
lament prairie
i mean, ww story is just painful to get through but
i dont think you get how bad some of the CN/JP reception to ww is getting
they're used to special treatment and they really do not forgive easily
its not like global where you can just chuck a few small freebies at them
magic wharf
i mean, ww story is just painful to get through but
do you remember tof's 1.0 story?
wuwa story is completely on another level if we compare
lament prairie
i agree, wuwa story is just dreadful
magic wharf
it's started meh, but it's good
lament prairie
i have zero clue what they were thinking
but anyhow this kinda stuff is already bubbling up, id expect it to be front page news by end of tomorrow so it'll be really interesting to see reactions on it then
magic wharf
i dont think you get how bad some of the CN/JP reception to ww is getting
sure, but they made a lot of money, on a dude banner btw, in just couple of days
so bad
tof could never
lament prairie
sure, but they made a lot of money, on a dude banner btw, in just couple of days
look at the mobile charts
its dire
it's slipped past rank 25 in a lot of regions
magic wharf
they too afraid to make male characters with good design, they only sell coomer baits
magic wharf
it's slipped past rank 25 in a lot of regions
sure
lament prairie
this kinda stuff is really easy to check
magic wharf
why are you trying so hard to make everything look worse than tof
lament prairie
https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWaves/comments/1d3hvxs/this_seems_kind_of_huge_no_im_having_a_lot_of_fun/ as is the reception on the kinda stuff im talking about
but given you already clearly wont click links etc
its obvious you dont care even though its having wide reaching and increasing intensity impacts
lament prairie
you care enough to rant about it 24/7
you dont care enough to check even a single detail
of the widely reported and sourced stuff
magic wharf
my rant is not about wuwa good or bad
lament prairie
theres no real point in discussing stuff with you
if you wont read anything
and just keep saying you dont care
and trying to spam people talking about serious issues out
magic wharf
again, my only problem is you, not wuwa or tof
i just can't tolerate your ability to make everything look like it's the end of the world
meanwhile, at the same time, elevating tof to a godhood game while talking with new players by simply misrepresenting everything
that's my problem
you're overly positive about tof, and overly negative about every other game
that's not good imo
like, why tf are you telling new players that tof has x16 map, or is it x17 now? on what it's based and how it's measured?
or are you counting every single instance separately? like, confounding abyss +3 maps, artificial island and home instance as +2 etc
cuz i only see 7
lament prairie
this kinda stuff has been charted a lot
innars alone is 4x the size of the launch map
magic wharf
by who
lament prairie
its not my fault if you dont look at links and data on stuff
why would i link you it, you dont read anything i link, theres no point wasting my time
magic wharf
oh lol, if hotta made map in space can we sell it to players as infinite map?
lament prairie
im just gonna shh as you clearly dont want to read anything sourced to you and mods will get annoyed if i keep trying to correct you on stuff
dont want chat to be just us two talking
cya later
magic wharf
innars is literally bloated bubble of nothingness
90% of it is just empty space
well, water
i don't see it as positive, sorry
and it's nowhere near aesperia by amount of shit to do for rewards
raw oasis
magic wharf
<:annahmmbella:1063002542281347133>
craftable weapons are so bad
terse pelican
<:annahmmbella:1063002542281347133>
Iโve been playing Wuthering waves for 2 days and I already have 2 5 star weapons and 5 5 star characters lol
lament prairie
hm nope i was wrong
it hit front page in an hour not in a day
guess people are more upset than i thought
magic wharf
hm nope i was wrong
it hit front page in an hour not in a day
okay what issue are you talking about?
just curious
and front page where
lament prairie
magic wharf
is that oh so greatest problem of all time, by any chance, about weapon mistranslation?
literally only one negative post there
so bad i guess
even if it's been addressed by wuwa already
lament prairie
geez you're still adverse to reading huh
magic wharf
what should i read to find that oh so big problem you're talking about?
you yourself gave me the link, and everything there is typical for reddit, well, i'd even say suspiciously positive for reddit
where is that big news i should read
lament prairie
it's reflected in the store chart positions which are abysmal for a week in
isn't just a reddit thing
magic wharf
and here we go again
can you just answer a question and not jump on another topic? cuz i already answered to that, game made money, a lot of money, for a dude banner
magic wharf
everyone was skeptical it'll make even half of it, cuz of dude banner
magic wharf
they deleted my image where it had plotti boobs ingame
12+ game btw, discord mods is more strict than who tf allowed it to be 12+
marble lion
lime epoch
Ngl i give myself ick
Donโt think about what I said too much
magic wharf
marble lion
magic wharf
||i couldn't even concentrate on a story after Plotti started talking ||
||can't even read a text without staring there ||
marble lion
me too man
inner pilot
magic wharf
as expected
marble lion
not surprised
lament prairie
raw oasis
Bored and try to reroll.
drowsy slate
nice
tropic mesa
Tf going on
zealous narwhal
update
lime epoch
You have become its caretaker
pine thorn
Bored and try to reroll. <:fenrirkek:1174337106999529542>
thats some insane luck
rose matrix
pine tundra
catto
pine tundra
bun
inner pilot
wise laurel
how do i switch between echos
rose matrix
sly ember
he had hands
Feilian Beringal has hands and is just as fun a boss. Literally Guardian Ape from Sekiro
Coming over from ToF, the bosses in WuWa are very well designed
wise laurel
Coming over from ToF, the bosses in WuWa are very well designed
i agree i agree i agree
crownless gave me some trouble
till i figured out the parry tech
and even then he had hands
W boss making
it was frustrating, but not the "either im gonna kill you or myself" kinda fustrating
sly ember
Crownless doesn't hold back. Have you fought him in the roguelite game mode? Crownless on Difficulty 3 is a fkin nuisance. Even with the trial Jiyan I couldn't beat him the first time
wise laurel
it was "alright i can win, i just need to figure him out"
sly ember
till i figured out the parry tech
Charge attacks go TWANG
wise laurel
Charge attacks go TWANG
but that wombo combo
after hes free from being stunned
i still cant figure out how to dodge all those attacks
wise laurel
Crownless doesn't hold back. Have you fought him in the roguelite game mode? Cro...
also no im still union rank 12
sly ember
Yeah that flight mode bs was a bit cheesy. But it's easy to see coming, and the wide spinning slash when he lands is telegraphed nicely
sly ember
also no im still union rank 12
Ahhh right. You need UL19 or something iirc
wise laurel
df
sly ember
Trust me, Crownless in that game mode is a pain. Better hole your perk rolls are good
wise laurel
Maaan you want half of all fictional characters to die at this point
and?
they all must perish
make room for ME
sly ember
raw oasis
kinda ok reroll acc
open geyser
listening to the clapping sound for 3 min
open geyser
kinda ok reroll acc
bruh I only have 1x 5 star
inner pilot
open geyser
If I stand near all 3, I'm a perfect 69m away from my target 
HUHHHHHHHH?!!
I wish my answers would affect the game the same way they did in BG3 :3 - villains have more character tbh (not sure, maybe because the others are just typical boring friendly npcs)
river eagle
and she's Wuwa ver of MC-stalker
river eagle
MC-stalker club
open geyser
I only used to play tof and WuWa, I guess the other 2 are from genshin and honkai?
have seen alot of the 3 games as meme
river eagle
Ayaka from Genshin, Firefly from Starrail
meanwhile in tof ; it's us who stalk Shirli/Nemesis
sly ember
meanwhile in tof ; it's us who stalk Shirli/Nemesis
Now I'm imagining how many restraining orders Shirli has against us...
river eagle
Now I'm imagining how many restraining orders Shirli has against us...
if it's pre-cataclysm civilization, GTA-level
sly ember
if it's pre-cataclysm civilization, GTA-level
Maybe Roslyn let herself be pulled from the banner because of the massive bounty on us ๐
river eagle
actually, by doing daillies in Gesthos, we slowly accumulate bounties on ourselve
river eagle
she remind me of Klee 
river eagle
cute little terrorist 
vibe
open geyser
okay WuWa ist rly specific with there wwarnings
throwing away modified database and config files
joke, I will say if my acc gets ban
sly ember
All I've done is the engine.ini tweak for less stutters. The 120fps stuff was so ambiguous that I didn't bother. Not fussed about frame rates when the game itself is barely playable
gentle grove
sly ember
u are just a cheater
turbid cargo
Traffic Ambulance
river eagle
dear lord
turbid cargo
All into one building
turbid cargo
At least there is no me
magic wharf
<:necomia:1090000603142443098> At least there is no me
for now
magic wharf
<:miacrying:977661356197183508> i want to pull
final nebula
https://tenor.com/view/wuthering-waves-yinlin-anime-mommy-red-hair-sitting-gif-1...
but she is volt
zealous narwhal
hae haeee squitty
ember roost
final nebula
hae haeee squitty
hae hae daughter
ember roost
if anyone in sea server help me feilian boss
snow hound
hae haeee squitty
alfalfalflaflala 
hexed jetty
lime epoch
Low hair buns for work today
gentle grove
pine thorn
<:miacrying:977661356197183508> i want to pull
i lost early pity so i'm suffering cuz i can't pull
if i do i might get him and lose my chance for yinlin
final nebula
i lost early pity so i'm suffering cuz i can't pull
lament prairie
oh wow
kuro is going to lose the entire jp market with this move
Twitter
not doing blanket stuff and telling individual people to contact them and not saying they'll compensate etc
most people would likely just refund instead and probably already have support tickets in if they were going to try that
jp has a real big thing about not making a noise
this kinda stuff has caused real big issues in games before with jp just quietly quitting, its especially bad at launch but asking them to go through hoops etc and not even saying they'll do stuff about it, geez, not to mention the one pull compensation attempt first which just rubbed salt in the wound
i really didnt expect them to double down on it
final nebula
what happened exactly
lament prairie
limited weapon being wrong stuff again
its especially bad though given which character it isnt useable for (description that was wrong made it sound better for calcharo)
i mean they went to all the effort of getting sephiroth's actual va for the expy so they clearly understand how popular the character is in jp etc
there's still a lot of wrong character/weapon information around so i just don't see people bothering if they feel they'll have to fill out forms that may or may not get approved for each one
ember roost
@zealous narwhal finally they removed uniframe dmg debuff with omniframe we can use both together from s rank wanashi patch
lament prairie
also imagine the drama if two whales with same spending amount on it
get different levels of compensation
i don't get what they were thinking at all doing it this way
meager temple
Gesthos network new Boss be like:
open geyser
I swear after joining WuWa discord.... horrible experience. I thought #technical-help was bad from tof release but WuWa is next lvl
magic wharf
what happened exactly
passive from signature weapon of a limited character (Jiyan), doesn't work for another 5* character from standard (Calcharo)
a lot of people pulled for weapon cuz of mistranslation
it's still better than any other weapon cuz of crit damage% stat tho
mossy void
Kurogames failed to properly launch their new game globally again deja vu
magic wharf
still better than tof launch imo
final nebula
tof had probably the worst launch ever
lament prairie
still better than tof launch imo
not given the chart positions
we'll know more in a bit but the store charts for ww seem really low
plus again, tof had a tiny team, compared to ww's giant one so way lower running costs
magic wharf
all wuwa has is one mistranslated weapon, and a bunch of people who trying to play it on a fridge
lament prairie
it didnt need that big of a launch but it got it in spades
final nebula
i think major problem with tof launch
lament prairie
all wuwa has is one mistranslated weapon, and a bunch of people who trying to pl...
ppl with expensive rigs keep getting these issues too what are you on about
final nebula
was the devs not working with uh
the chinese team properly
taking copy of base versions without fixes
lament prairie
you have to remember tof also does more to stand apart genre etc wise and had a giant clear release window
so it was able to stabilize
ww is kinda in freefall and the other games havent even started popping up
there's an insane amount of similar to gi ones this year
they arent't multiplayer in the way tof is or share design elements though which is good for tof i guess
don't get me wrong tof launch was a mess but it was also a super successful one at the time
magic wharf
ppl with expensive rigs keep getting these issues too what are you on about
64gb ram, rtx3060ti, i7 8700k, ssd
game running VERY FUCKING smooth
literally 0 problems since release
only REAL bug a got one time, is music didn't stop for some reason, after i closed the game
lament prairie
yeah you're not the only person on the planet
magic wharf
same to you
lament prairie
takes like 3 seconds to check if people with beefier rigs like us are having issues
(and yes im having a lot now too)
it was fine at launch but every hotfix just made it worse and worse
and thats a pretty common complaint
magic wharf
i tell you one thing, there's a lot less people who have issues than you think
they're just vocal about it
and among them 90% of people who still sitting with pc from 2014
and think if NEW game runs bad on their PC, it means optimization is bad 
although optimization was never about it
lapis radish
although optimization was never about it
Blame the playerbase stupidity
They want super realistic of stupid graphic
Now they have it
But what we trade off
Shit optimization
And when we talk about this on forum
They said bad pc
magic wharf
people still using hdd's for games, only that should tell you a lot
ember roost
lapis radish
https://youtu.be/4MIU5ecq_Oc?si=ycFOD2RAcjmQZ8T5
Cant wait to be busted just like that one black guy
magic wharf
also i saw people who doesn't know that you can turn down graphics settings
so yeah, a lot of people can't play wuwa not cuz games optimization, it's just their own ignorance
lapis radish
oh some people do turn down graphic
but if the game shit at optimization
dont expect much different
magic wharf
if it's shit at optimization it should be shit for everyone
just so you know, tof is running a lot worse than wuwa
lapis radish
yep
magic wharf
it is at 15 %
it's time to let it go
ember roost
mossy void
open geyser
sly ember
just so you know, tof is running a lot worse than wuwa <:fenrirkek:1174337106999...
WuWa only uses like 40%-50% of my GPU according to Windows Game Bar, but ToF, especially in Mirroria now that I have my Ultrawide, skirts close to 100%
Crazy
pine tundra
beautiful
gentle grove
turbid cargo
sly ember
it was fine at launch but every hotfix just made it worse and worse
I don't get how people are saying the hotfixes are helping. The one on Tuesday made the game so damn choppy that I had no choice but to use the engine.ini tweak
sly ember
<:xiaobao_hmm:1205543838194597900>
Kiri
pine thorn
hi toby
pine thorn
i miss warframe
sly ember
i miss warframe<:xiaobao_cry:1189180402221449256>
Warframe misses me too (I haven't played in a week)
pine thorn
Warframe misses me too (I haven't played in a week)
me too
its probably been more than a week
but i do know that if i play i might not be seen
for a long time
sly ember
but i do know that if i play i might not be seen
Jade Shadows is approaching fast
Big lore drop for sure. A Warframe with close ties to the Stalker
pine thorn
yeah i can't wait
needed more lore to stalker
cuz all we knew is that he's just there
with hunhau
sly ember
He's been quite possibly the most neglected character in terms of lore
sly ember
with hunhau
Did...did you just use the traditional spelling of Hunhow, as in the Mayan death god???
pine thorn
probs more
sly ember
5 years
He was added since 2014 iirc
As Stalker. Then we got Shadow Stalker in like 2016 with The Second Dream
pine thorn
Did...did you just use the traditional spelling of Hunhow, as in the Mayan death...
silence you shall
pine thorn
As Stalker. Then we got Shadow Stalker in like 2016 with The Second Dream
yea so its been 8 years
yet we only know so little
sly ember
Even Margulis, who we've only heard from second-hand recountings, finally has a face to the name, and even more story about her
OH, OH. ANOTHER NEGLECTED CHARACTER
Derf Anyo
Nef's supposed nephew
People are saying he was The Seargant all along
pine thorn
Even Margulis, who we've only heard from second-hand recountings, finally has a ...
well we've known about her being teased ever since fortuna with little duck
pine thorn
OH, OH. ANOTHER NEGLECTED CHARACTER
Derf Anyo
after dude became a void preacher we never heard from him again
sly ember
well we've known about her being teased ever since fortuna with little duck
Not even. In the Natah quest, during the second last mission when you first visit Lua (which was at the time just a Void Tower tileset with the Lua Skybox), during that one conversation when Alad V says he saw inside a Warframe and didn't understand a thing
I think either him or someone else says how Margulis was consigned to the Jade Light, and faded away in a red mist. Basically the death penalty for all Archimedeans, which she received for nurturing the Tenno, who turned against the Orokin
And Natah came out in like 2015
pine thorn
Not even. In the Natah quest, during the second last mission when you first visi...
margulis was sent to the farm was she not? after she was blinded by one of the tenno
or did i miss something
sly ember
margulis was sent to the farm was she not? after she was blinded by one of the t...
I haven't heard about that. All I know is after the Tenno turned against the Orokin, the remaining Archimedeans held Margulis responsible for fostering the Tenno. With Ballas as the Executioner, she was literally atomised by the Jade Light, killed
It's also crazy how much lore about the actual Tenno uprising we get from the statues in Kullervo's Hold in Duviri
Literally goes into detail of each and every one of Kullervo's seven crimes
pine thorn
yes'
sly ember
Including whispering to dormant/inactive/yet to be piloted Warframes, planting seeds of doubt and rebellion in their minds
Kullervo's final crime was attempted murder I think. He almost, ALMOST, killed Ballas
pine thorn
one must listen to a 2 day audiobook on warframe lore to be up to date
sly ember
Failure to do so is how he got captured
sly ember
one must listen to a 2 day audiobook on warframe lore to be up to date
Laughs in Destiny's almost 1000 in-game Lore Books and several hundred hours of My Name Is Byf's lore videos
sly ember
I fucking love Destiny's lore. So rich in story and cohesive. I just hate how much of a slog the game is to play, and how tedious the achievements are that you need to get to unlock the lore books
pine thorn
dang
i quit destiny i didn't even know if i finished the tutorial
i played for a week
sly ember
i quit destiny i didn't even know if i finished the tutorial
A week? I doubt you finished the tutorial. The New Light one is much shorter than vanilla D2's but it's so goddamn boring
Did you get an Exotic electric SMG atleast?
pine thorn
i did
sly ember
The Riskrunner is a guaranteed Exotic from the Reclaim Your Light mission
pine thorn
i think
oh yeah
after i did some stuff
they kinda
stopped showing me where to go
so i was confused
sly ember
I'm telling you now, it's given to you for free in the tutorial quest chain, yet I've seen sweats in Raids use it religiously
It is THAT good
Mainly because if you take 
damage while using the SMG, the gun is supercharged. Every shot chains lightning between enemies, and you gain a shield offering 10% damage resistance
Keep getting hit by and you'll never lose Supercharge
pine thorn
Mainly because if you take <:Elementarc:1100577325696946358> damage while using ...
did you go and look
for the emoji
sly ember
Considering i've replaced ๐ฅ with 
long ago, I know the Destiny emotes start with element
pine thorn
tell me something i'm intrested in like if i lost pity on banner in wuwa would it transfer to other banner
sly ember
Osiris literally casts like 7 Supers from different Warlock classes back to back
That's the equivalent of those Genshin battle events where you can pull off Bursts back to back coz of how many energy particles that spawn
sly ember
tell me something i'm intrested in like if i lost pity on banner in wuwa would i...
I want to assume this is the case
pine thorn
I want to assume this is the case
i don't want assumptions i need awnsers
got early pity on jiyan from the free pulls they gave
but it was a loss 50/50
sly ember
tell me something i'm intrested in like if i lost pity on banner in wuwa would i...
It does
pine thorn
pine thorn
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/wuthering-waves-pity-system
good because i have sephiroth so i might as well get yinlin
now i must endure 2 weeks waiting
sly ember
now i must endure 2 weeks waiting
You have waited this long for WuWa, you will survive
Dommy mommy fake Kafka shall come home
pine thorn
You have waited this long for WuWa, you will survive
i didn't tbh
toby you forgot
i was sick and asleep for most of the year
sly ember
With her and Calcharo from the guaranteed choice banner, I can have double Aero as my main team and double Electro as my second
river eagle
whos fake kafka?
sly ember
i was sick and asleep for most of the year
WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU, KIRI 
sly ember
whos fake kafka?
Yinlin. Next event banner
pine thorn
WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU, KIRI <:peeposadhug:744391326493048995>
constant sickness
pine thorn
it was something new everytime one healed
river eagle
or to be more spcific , Lightning Himeko
sly ember
ah u mean ~~fake~~ Himeko
Himeko modded to have her moveset overwritten with Kafka's
pine thorn
river eagle
Himeko modded to have her moveset overwritten with Kafka's
her ult is ...more like Himeko
pine thorn
sly ember
sly ember
https://tenor.com/view/pls-god-strike-this-individual-down-strike-down-god-kanye...
Literally
pine thorn
perhaps
pine thorn
