📊┆dragon-lineup-help

[sharp path]

@mental thunder I got Porch and another guy telling me witches. Any disagreement if my priority is on CC/copper/Fey/Tower?

[plush thicket]

Ahhh just realized you’re s2. Same bosses no clue on the crab yet

Wealth of info here:

#📊┆dragon-lineup-help message

[old abyss]

Alright thank you!

After reading the guide, seems like I just need to do as much bosses will do right. Others can just do if I can’t complete the boss hahaha

[plush thicket]

Same as S1, as long as it’s with more than a dungeon, do it

[old abyss]

Yeah haha but I joined late S1 so I didn’t know I have to meet a certain points to get Utior, so I didn’t get it 🥲

[rocky vigil]

I wonder how much one has to spend $$ to get this fully inspired lineup for vortex. The guy is doing 145 mln on vortex III

[mental thunder]

Well that team is all over the place already, i would stick with sigrid. Eventually you want to worry about affinity

[mental thunder]

Dude it is common knowledge witches first, there is no other choice

[midnight plinth]

Well, im planning to worry about element affinity but currently i dont have good necro/ice tank

[limpid latch]

Daaaaang

[cosmic jewel]

Pls advise a good ice /Radiance team for S2 so i can focuss on lvl up these charcters

These my charcters

[mental thunder]

You are still in s1… why dont you wait to see what you pull s2

Also “what you have scrolled already” is a good start 😁

[cosmic jewel]

@mental thunder ok ill wait for summon then pls advise

[mental thunder]

ofc, you just might pull all the iceblast and it all changes is the thing - so dont worry about it for now

nobody attacks mine after i swap it to an actual defense after 1 man for 6 days 😔

wow i just got outsped by a sigrid team

it's because i wasnt paying attention and allowed my acilia to be in front of ergander 😩 derp, won the second time just repositioned

rookie mistake

[wheat jetty]

trying to get to 22m with lightning using garius, quarion, iola, shaltar and nimbus. max i reach 20.5m but then shaltsr dies. is there a better starter then iola for witches remains? or a good 3. dauntless for witches(max epic)

whats with shagrol as enabler with witches remains?

[mental thunder]

can try and drop quarion for shagrol to add another dps and not worry about removing iola

it'll be a dps race, they will die faster... but you might score higher

[wheat jetty]

i did it with my initial setup. its rng luck but it can work

[still arrow]

hellooo, is this one okay if i pair with the other epic

just got him from diceee

[honest falcon]

can someone share essential timings for copper dragon? e.g. dispel at 26.5s/35s interval, atk down at 29s/35s interval

[mental thunder]

"the other epic" there are 2 other epic dauntless; which one did you get?

but yes, shagrol and the rare vani are the only ones i'd think about leveling in that list

[still arrow]

this too

[mental thunder]

cleanse x2-3 after it uses defense down aoe, shields before then if you can... think it is just before the ult which is 25s mark so full cleanse at 23/24 or immunity for 10 seconds at 14

attack down at 19.5 would be nice for 5 seconds or at 15 for 10 seconds

[mental thunder]

thurnus is a no go, that's why i said shagrol would be fine...

you meant level shagrol and thurnus? no

no schaltar, no nimbus, no legos = dont touch dauntless

[still arrow]

okay, thank you ! 🙂 but which 3 should i use with them

i was trying to make a 5 affinity team

[mental thunder]

i mean..... i dont think you should make a dauntless team at all without schaltar or nimbus minimum.

you can try wellby and hegio rally with garius, mithrasea and shook

[still arrow]

okay, thanks 🥳 i'll go with that 🙂

[mental thunder]

if oyu need more damage, drop mith and add tathlyn or irina

[still arrow]

maybe i'll go for tathlyn for ult rechargeee

[honest falcon]

do I need 2 cleanser or 1 cleanse/1 immunity per 35sec rotation? will heroes with low ultimate immunity CD like thia work twice with hourglass?

[mental thunder]

i dont think you can afford to have 2 cleansers on the team or you wont achieve any dps. for instance, i went with vicuc on my wild team, and he was also my attack down debuffer (because if he has a debuff he gains a chance to debuff, and it was a good uptime just from his 5s duration debuff, which i'm impressed with)... but he can only cleanse 2 debuffs. so i chose to cleanse the defense down right before ult to maximize the effect, and had to rely on adolphus shields and heals for the rest.

i think that team was..... adolphus, vicuc, errich, tonalnan, felicity and i scored like 40m?

errich was my defense down since he has aoe so could hit multiple targets with it

[honest falcon]

is the dragon immune to ultimate reduction? just wondering if vinyara, Adrie comps would work for ultimate manipulation

[mental thunder]

no it is not, in fact that's one of the main things you need to do to it

manipulating your ult generation (like with felicity and wellby self push or with ghul stealing ult, etc.) and reducing boss ult (ergander, adrie, questa) is huge

also using incense and candlestick artifacts for it is important

with a unit that does some of that work by themselves like irma or ergander or felicity, you can afford to run 1 less of those artifacts

if not, gotta use both. and you dont really need a real TANK per se because all attacks are aoe. a tank only serves to heal/buff/debuff or use ancestral protection set for utility.... they dont need to actually take basic attacks at all

so like i geared ergander in a dps setup with ancestral protector, high accuracy for attack down and ultimate reduction

[honest falcon]

I can get vinyara less than 10sec CD, which worked really well on OW thelandor boss where I keep atk down permanently and kept him from reaching high stacks. will that work on the dragon? I heard the dragon actually 3 enemies so not sure how that works

[mental thunder]

you cant realyl target its head, which is the problem. only the head is showing the debuffs at top of screen, so you cant see the other 2 targets

[honest falcon]

I see, what about journs passive ultimate regeneration? does it count as 5 or just 1? assuming everyone in the team is within range

[mental thunder]

may count as 5, every time something happens that increases or decreases ult for you or boss stacks come off and you only need like 4 stacks

then it goes into weakness for 5s after it ults, so you plan on doing that every turn and adding 5s to your timers so it is actually a 30s rotation

even though boss gauge is 25 total. 25 +5 for weakness

which allows you to regen a bit of ult, which is nice, so your timers are more forgiving. but it debuffs ult generation down with its 2nd skill at 10s, so it slows you down a little.... then it defense down with 3rd skill and then ults you aoe big damage

or something like that

2nd skill ult gen down, defense down with 4th skill at 20s

w/e i forget, you'll see

[honest falcon]

thanks for the explanation!

[safe nebula]

Which team for pillars

[mental thunder]

voresh on stun set, zharloth on stun set, thia, hocha on stun set, rava 🤭 just a bunch of damage over time with stuns

[zinc nest]

Id prefer meggan over thia for the ult up

[safe nebula]

Need more.stun sets then lol

[mental thunder]

yeah thia only if you hit a floor with lots of debuffs hitting back row, meggan def a good option to keep hocha alive

and if you dont need the heals, can even drop thia/meggan and go usha for more dps

or vidimir if you need to stay ranged

[elder swift]

Can Naguk's field crit? Would horseshoe or nail be a better artifact for him?
And the best gear set for him against bosses (resurgent dragon S1) is gambler?

[onyx lintel]

Journ can knock all 4 stacks off himself during a rotation, same as Durango. Zadok can as well, but depends on having another summoner to knock all 4 stacks consistently

[potent panther]

what element is better? some can recommend me a basic formation im new

[mental thunder]

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[wheat jetty]

any ideas how to bring this to 22m:

its consistent in not dying, but well just 15m.

[mental thunder]

bionphray is terrible. idk how you'd improve that without adding another dps or replacing rowena with auster

or hvitar or something

rowena fully scrolled? even with idk if you are pulling 7m worth out of that

could try fully scrolled dork + rowena fully scrolled

[wheat jetty]

yes i scrolled the dps

and felosia as she is a monster

[mental thunder]

can you drop meggan and go dork?

[wheat jetty]

i can try

but dork without timings

[mental thunder]

might not survive whole time but you'll have more dps earlier

[wheat jetty]

as he has fully other time sets

do i equip dorkuraz with enlightment for his passive?

13m, 4 minutes

[safe nebula]

Which team can get me 22m with fire?

[wheat jetty]

maybe heksandra, horrus, tonalnan, alfie, errich

[safe nebula]

Follie caraman not good?

Follie seems like 1260% ult?

Or does she not cast 3 attacks when only boss

[wheat jetty]

alfie is a good enabler for wild

errich has 5 attack for crown, tonalnan is the dmg

[safe nebula]

Oke ty no atk lead needed?

[wheat jetty]

but yes if you want to no melee, then follie seems viable

[safe nebula]

Because of this attack seems good but i dont have the knowledge yet if it is good enough

[wheat jetty]

it seems good

[safe nebula]

Oke will try after i gear them

[wheat jetty]

there are way more expierienced helpers here. you might want to wait for their response 😉

[polar aurora]

I used Follie Errich Alfie but didn't quite reach 22M because auster ignores defense so your tank is going to die fast and I didn't scroll them up. I think if you scroll them up and give them decent gear it will be an easy 22M but only if you invest some scrolls

I didn't have tonalnan at the time. Maybe there is a way to make her dps without tanking the boss damage

if you can find a way to use tonalnan without sacrificing her it's a free 22M as she's incredible

[safe nebula]

Her dmg is definetly incredible but her being melee dont think i can keep her alive

So for this it is better tank with all hp stats,

[polar aurora]

there could be a possibility if you have 2 frontline on one side and tonalnan hit from the other side maybe

[safe nebula]

Oke will try few things will get them to lvl 100 for extra stats too

First try was barely 5m😂😂

But i didnt use my best gear yet

My tank dies too fast

[wheat jetty]

i survive 3 minutes 😉

[safe nebula]

Gave horrus 100k hp now let me see

How are you guys doing 22m lol i m far far away

[wheat jetty]

full affinity, fully scrolled, all lvl 100, good gear, OE bonus at 2.25mil

still just 24m

vicuc dispells everyone directly after auster ulti

[safe nebula]

I dont have him

I do have estes

[wheat jetty]

i bought him in a banner-chest for 25 heliot dice pulls

[safe nebula]

Guarenteed?

[wheat jetty]

yes, if its the right banner.

[safe nebula]

Ohh i need to save up

Pulled 84 for ultior event

[wheat jetty]

Blessed Summon Banner 1 should have him

[safe nebula]

That is next month

[mental thunder]

pulling on blessed banners is whale talk

[safe nebula]

Got time lol

[mental thunder]

if you arent a spender, should be saving for main banner, ultior event main banner or s2 depending on timing in the season

[wheat jetty]

yes its whale talk. normally you shouldnt pull blessed banners

[safe nebula]

Now that i tasted my first leggo artifact i want more😂😂

I want all dupes

[mental thunder]

yeah but if you arent going hard on blessed banners to get exactly the one you want and you dont have many in the pool, you are not guaranteed to get what you want

friends of mine have gone 800 bucks into a blessed banner to get 1 copy of 1 unit they wanted

[wheat jetty]

i invested big, as i got a huge bonus. so it didnt hurt me. normally i'm more f2p in games 😉

[safe nebula]

I can use catherine too

Dont have her either and all leggos can help prefer dupes

I want 2 more skill haste artifsct for arena

Damn there are some nice leggos in that banner lol

Acilia lucien ghulende

Tamar

[spiral dragon]

Noob here… any of these legos worth building? Seems like summoner team is way to go, but not sure. Any help welcome.

[polar aurora]

Scharlach Gaiolere Joyce Voresh Loris

[naive bison]

Sup everyone

[peak vessel]

Hi

[polar aurora]

you can go wild team with Caspar Frurbath Errich + any 3rd wild + any poison/fire support

[spiral dragon]

Cheers mate.

[old crater]

Hi. Nice reading.

[mental thunder]

yeah i'd go wild team. caspar + errich + tonalnan (epic) or nedda (rare) + frurb + adolphus would be a very strong vortex team in s1.

can use sifris instead of adolphus if you dont have him

[spiral dragon]

Don’t have him or tonalan yet. Got nedda. Will try that out. Summons seem a bit long for early game progression.

[polar aurora]

use summoners for goblins lair

or sigrid

nedda is good

[mental thunder]

yeah voresh, sigrid, dorkruz, rowena, usha would be a strong goblin team also

i personally just stay away from summoners unless they are specific ones... joyce + zadok + premtsa are very good, the rest..... really need a specific team for them to work. lelwanis and irzillas are both melee, so is tioh... so they have to be able to survive at melee range and to ramp up their damage to use any of them with gaiolere. scharlach is considered the turd of summon legos unfortunately

gaiolere + tioh + irzillas would be a strong team; maybe even the rare lizard instead of irzillas. premtsa would probably be even stronger in place of irz... and if you want a pure ranged summon team, gaio + premtsa + eleuia

but you'd want a strong healer/debuffer like vinyara and a strong tank up front like eurion to make that work

[spiral dragon]

Cheers mate. Vor and Sig seem to be holding their own atm. Will try wild for Vortex and my current team for general stuff.

Usually I have good luck with pulls in these games. Seems like all my summons so far have been horrific.

[mental thunder]

Not true, you have good units

Just remember rares and epics are important

[spiral dragon]

Yeah fair point. Just need to figure out synergies.

[mental thunder]

#1202625010984820806 May help early on

[bronze relic]

Anyone know what defence / HP stats I need on Garrius for venom 9 in S1? He’s fine on 8 but gets stomped by the bosses first aoe on 9. Set up so only him and low hp hero taking damage so just need him to survive. Cannot yet get legendary gear from curse.

[plush thicket]

3k-3.5k. Ancestral set. Thats the gate. Two healers.

Otherwise youre wanting to push over 3500 with him. Are you using a healer with Defense up?

Like Venom and Curse, there is usually a lot of back and forth to make it work in Venom/Curse 8 (even 7) until you have the gear to complete one or the other at 9. Even in s2 I had to hit Curse 8 a few times before I had an ancestral set for garius to survive Venom 9.

[mental thunder]

Or just meggan so she immediately removes the defense down when she heals as a passive, that way his defense can stack and he wont die outright round 1; never had a need for more than 1 healer

[plush thicket]

Yea sooooometimes shes not enough. It really depends on your defense on Garius. So Im mostly stating from low resources / low stats reference.

[silent merlin]

Does philto-alton-lorentheel work as a core ralley team?

[plush thicket]

Extremely well.

[onyx pike]

guys who would yall scroll first between karf & eurion?

[mental thunder]

If you have aeschetius then karf

[onyx pike]

karf is my only burn champ other than the rare goblin. My main team is poison/lightning so I guess I should book eurion then?

[mental thunder]

Nothing forcing you to, if you have a really good rad/ice team i guess but do you not have garius?

[onyx pike]

oh i dont have garius but I play frurbath nathaniel shainachtan etc, karf & eurion are not for my main team

[mental thunder]

Ok then yes i would scroll him for radiance/ice

[onyx pike]

cool thanks!

[old abyss]

Hi guys, F2P here with limited scroll. Wonder which Lego I should scroll next?

Gillian is scrolled, and I have a few extra 🙂

Also I just pulled these, any recommendations team to go with this two?

Do they help in the lunar event lineup?

[onyx lintel]

You have a very solid Dauntless lineup and if you are f2p I would focus on them until they are fully scrolled tbh

Sutha Ivel and Garrett

[safe hazel]

what best hero to take from box if i have garius?

[old abyss]

Ok understand. Never cross my mind to scroll dauntless Legos. Was thinking of Defense or support legos first for better overall

So means the next I should scroll is Dauntless legos.

Lucian and Sagamor is not needed to scroll :3

[frank egret]

A f2p talking about scrolling legos? You must be the luckiest guy alive

[old abyss]

Can get around 3 per season

So it’s still doable but slow lol

[onyx lintel]

Well, it's about best bang for your buck. But look at it this way - as a f2p you need to make long term decisions for your account. With your dauntless trio scrolled you will basically have Vortex on lock forever

[old abyss]

Agreed.

Aside, IB isn’t better than DL?

For vortex

[onyx lintel]

It's not

[cosmic jewel]

@mental thunder hi sir

Should i ho for this summons S2 started now

Pls advise friends

[onyx lintel]

Summon from the 2nd one

Use your tickets single pulls until you get 2 legos

[cosmic jewel]

This one right

[onyx lintel]

Yes

[cosmic jewel]

@onyx lintel ty

[onyx lintel]

Pull one at a time

[cosmic jewel]

Ok got it

[onyx lintel]

Post what you get

[cosmic jewel]

10th single summon

Should i keep on going till i 2nd legend

[onyx lintel]

yes

That's a great pull btw

[cosmic jewel]

Ty @onyx lintel

So continue till i get second legend

[onyx lintel]

Yes on that banner

[cosmic jewel]

Now on 9th pull got her

[split bridge]

Why has my account vanished and taken me back to the very start of the game.

[cosmic jewel]

It 2nd season

[split bridge]

It still says s1

[onyx lintel]

probably picked the wrong server

Logged in with a guest account and not your normal account

[split bridge]

I can't change server.

[onyx lintel]

You can change server on login screen yes

but your character won't be there it will start you fresh

[split bridge]

So have I lost everything now.

[onyx lintel]

no...

[split bridge]

How do I get back to where I was then.

[onyx lintel]

You just need to manually select the server that your character exists on

man fine look

on the login screen, take a screenshot of it and post here

Like this

[cosmic jewel]

@split bridge did ya get it

[split bridge]

No, still at beginning of season 1. Can't get on anything else.

[cosmic jewel]

Wait give me a sec

Click on first tab

Ur clicking on new server second tab thts why

[cosmic jewel]

Thts unsual

Have u linked ur ac to fb or gmail

Click on tht top right logo and select ur gmail or fb

[plush thicket]

Frank

Roll all your purples

Stop rolling orange

[cosmic jewel]

Ok

[plush thicket]

Roll the purples first, better return on s3 if orange dice create dupes

[cosmic jewel]

Ok

[plush thicket]

https://discord.com/channels/928541801260908546/1187441175179837600

I wrote about banners here

If you're spending the $200, you have a debate depending on your account. Usually the 80/80 is better, HOWEVER, theres a severely good chance at an exclusive in the s2 banner. But s1 characters typically round your account out better.

Also congrats on karf, hes the main enabler for Burn.

[cosmic jewel]

@plush thicket so u mean to say no more legend summon only epic summon for now

[nova wolf]

Пиздец

[wheat jetty]

should i invest in torrin? is he a better heal than zhar'loth? considering it for my 22m necro team, as it wont survive atm. thought about putting him behind questa

but might be wrong as only she would be visible for skills

also i could scroll him, but originally wanted to save the scrolls for s2 ^^

[azure sluice]

S1 or S2? He is better healer than Zhar'loth and Meggan usually, but against Thelendor dispelling rally is more important so Voresh or Uloar. I use Voresh, Adrie, Questa, Tioh (for pure dps), and Meggan as tank. Against copper dragon Ghul'ende cleanse is also good. What are you going to use it for?

[wheat jetty]

its S1

for OE 22m team

[azure sluice]

Ah, Thelendor ulti will ignore def if he consume rally, so Torrin defense doesn't matter as much. And Zhar'loth isn't as good anyway against him. What you need is dps.

[wheat jetty]

i reach about 16m until i die

and i dont have voresh

so leveling uloar could make my team better... i used ripekas as tank ^^ i should concider another tank, if the healer can tank this ^^

[azure sluice]

Yeah, Meggan with Ancestral protection is tanky enough for that, she's the last to fall for me. Ripekas buff prohibition and energy manipulation isn't surefire. So yeah, Meggan/Ghul'ende as tank, Uloar to dispel, Adrie and Questa to steal energy, and a dps. I used Tioh because he is somehow a rare that has 30% att+ for captain aura, maybe you can use Irzillas for that.

[wheat jetty]

will have to look for what is reachable for today 😉 farming goblin for uloar now

and i have enough scrolls for uloar and tioh

do you have a screenshot for positioning or just the tanks in front

[fair hatch]

hey, i can't seem to pass the purple dragon on the story and i don't really know if the propblem is my lineup or my gear and i don't really know what to do at this point

[atomic smelt]

Looking to create a strong team to go far in pillars of trial for lightning/radiance

[wheat jetty]

thats what i achieve so far.

[limpid sky]

[wheat jetty]

huberg tathlyn wellby for rally, a tank and catherine for heal?

[wheat jetty]

maybe: huberg, tathlyn, wellby for rally, a tank and catherine for heal?

[azure sluice]

From @mystic hawk in the 22M f2p comp thread:

I'll be able to share build screenshots when I'm ingame again, around daily reset, 6 hours or so. But the gear they're in is fairly typical of a 60+ day account.

Positioning wise Meggan tanks in forward centre position. Questa and Tioh either side of her. Adrie and Uloar just hide at the back.

What I like about the team is that Questa, Meggan, and Adrie are meta heroes that accounts should have built already. Uloar is the only really niche hero there.

[wheat jetty]

cant level 2 chars on 1 day 😉

so i tried with ghul-ende

and its already better

i survived the whole 5 minutes and did more damage

[azure sluice]

Someone did apparently manage to get even more substituting Ghul'ende for Uloar instead of Tioh. But they didn't share what is their gear. But I guess Tioh aura and damage boost them a lot.

[azure sluice]

Don't forget Nessa (heal prohibition) for boss

[wheat jetty]

with eyeball on questa instead of incense

does uloar need accuracy for her dispells?

[wind iris]

For Rally dispell ? Yes

Every "manipulation" on the enemy needs acc (ultimate, buffstealing/erasing, debuffing)

If the skill doesnt state otherwise (like Roses passive)

[wheat jetty]

thanks 🙂 i thought so, but wasnt sure

[latent isle]

[latent isle]

Have u tried the easy 22m team? The skeleton fodder one?

[wheat jetty]

i dont know this team

[limpid latch]

Suggestiona for radiance only team pls 🙂

[tardy fiber]

any poison lineup without oggok can reach 22m on lossenia. her dmg too hurt

[mental thunder]

You have to carefully read his skills. Positioning is key. You have to have all characters with a block of empty grid between them or they take extra damage. Sigrid, voresh and zharloth would be decent damage for phase 1 and 2 but the third phase you may run out of time. Are you in all epic gear?

[limpid latch]

anyone?

[azure sluice]

We don't even know for what context do you need them

[fair hatch]

Mostly but zarloth and voresh don't do that much damage

Guess i'll farm more

[mental thunder]

I suggest you make sure they are all in appropriate gear for their skills and can do decent damage. Crit% hands on both, attack% body on zhar, accuracy main body on voresh. Sigrid geared like voresh also. Which means 2x 2 piece epic barbarian sets. Sigrid gets eyeball artifact, zharloth gets wine cup or heal book, whichever you need more

Voresh gets crown

Tank needs 2 green sets for max defense and hp; def% main hands and body

[limpid latch]

there are minibosses for ardreth event

[fair hatch]

I only got the crown for the moment

Okay i'll make they have thoses stats

[mental thunder]

It doesnt have to be radiance ONLY team just the damage has to be….

[limpid latch]

yes but i need other elements for other bosses

[mental thunder]

You need other element DAMAGE for other boss…

You build with affinity, you cant make a balanced team of just 1 element unless you have every hero

[limpid latch]

mind helping me build team for all 6 elements?

[mental thunder]

Sure post your roster

[limber turret]

[limpid latch]

i got lot of potions soo i can lvl up few to 80

[wispy crypt]

I am struggling with surpassing goblin 3#1 , I am doing all temps 5 and dungeons on lvl 8 but cannot compose good goblin team. I have these heroes + all rares (maybe lack like 4 rares like immeral or something but still posses rare selector chest if needed). please help with goblin team

[mental thunder]

you are leveling so many random heroes man, you are wasting a lot of xp and stamina

#1202625010984820806

[limpid latch]

good to know 👍

[latent isle]

@mental thunder dragon opens for me in about 10 hours. Might need your big brain

All teams can do 30-50 in all ow bosses

But there are some dragon mechanics I need to help with

[gaunt flax]

I've only just started playing this yesterday, so it's more likely you can help me! However, I was a software engineer in a previous life and I've found that that gives me an insight, call it intuition if you like, that serves me well. I usually have a rough idea of how a project is put together and how the code does what it does. If I can help I will. 🙂

[serene stag]

Pls help me build dauntless team . Tyvm

And also items for them

I can also buy more epic artifact if need be

and I currently have witch remain as only leg artifact . and I am s1

[gaunt flax]

It's a very big game (over 1GB), and there's always some code left to load (about 25MB), but if that's taking 10 hours then either your device is severely underpowered or, more likely, your connexion is very bad.😖. I'll have a look at your team…

[mental thunder]

nastjenka, schaltar, sutha, frurbath, nathaniel for vortex should be OP.. sutha will have to be your witch remains/crown holder with accuracy and leave attack down to frurb.

you can basically use a similar team i use for almost all dungeons to gear efficiently... adolphus, frurbath/garius, caspar, deverick, voresh. i use felicity myself; and you might choose a different single target dps (but i prefer wild since they are ranged and since you and i dont have a lego ranged dauntless like tharivol or someone like philto or huberg).

zharloth, thia, ripelkas, zadok, premtsa can be your shainactan team... should do really good damage and you only need to heal ripelkas.

rose, wellby, lorentheel, alton, garius would be ideal for journ... but i dont see garius.

adolphus, isolde, caspar, errich, dane can be a good irzillas fire team.

shinnah, clovis, gerthin, donella...... voresh would be a good alton team, but i dont see voresh.

grishnaar/lydia, iola, nimbus, vani, nathaniel is a very good talwer team (i use lydia tank and auto 22m)

ergander, frurbath, heksandra, eli, sigrid/jijel vs lossenia is what i use, 14m but other people use and get 22m but not sure what magic they are using lol....

[mental thunder]

for what purpose though?

[serene stag]

Sorry , For continental challenge and vortex

[limpid latch]

tnx a lot!

[serene stag]

and also other team for continental challenge. I am finding it hard to get pass more than 1 purple crystal apart from my fire team

[cosmic jewel]

Hi all i did 29 summons and got 3 legendary, should i use my rest 57 summons or waut for summon events

Pls advise

[limpid latch]

Got voresh and garius soo thats great

Got most of epics

7 epics missing ^^

[mental thunder]

Would reset everyone else tbh

Goblins, use that team for basically every dungeon

And those teams for bosses. Only need 3 total by midseason then 4 then 5 then 6, so can build 1 team a week after midseason event hits

[mental thunder]

Clovis tank, nimbus, vani, quarion, shagrol. Shagrol holds defense down artifact, clovis applies attack down

Wine cup for vani, horseshoe for nimbus

[limpid latch]

yeh dont have tht option anymore

[frank egret]

I seem to be stuck in chapter 4. Looking for some assistance in increasing my dps or suggestions on characters to build. Could certainly use a debuff stripper which i don’t have. Any suggestions?

[mental thunder]

dragon was easier than ow bosses imo; you can afford to not worry about having a true tank and just worry about the debuffs/buffs and damage you need and the ult manipulation

[cosmic jewel]

@mental thunder pls advise Sir

[mental thunder]

for vortex i'd use garius tank obviously. garius, nathaniel, 3 dauntless. not going to be AMAZING damage, but it should get you through III to IV and get maybe 10-15m on IV

[mental thunder]

post your roster and what are you precisely stuck on so we can gameplan

dont really know what "chapter 4" means

[mental thunder]

honestly at the beginning of the season i dumped all my summons. i did the 20 on the ticket banner to get 3 legendaries and then i did 80/80 on the main banner (i bought a pack to fuel this)... got 3 more legendaries. then i hoarded for midseason banner to clear 60 on that in order to have a great head start to get ardeth from her event without needing to get more than 11m per boss.... and since then i've saved 47 more dice for elminster. i have only bought battle pack and the wyrm + bread daily packs for a month... clearing events, placing well in arena and vortex, etc adds up. so my recommendation to you if you are not going to spend money.... i would pull on the season 2 banner specific banner or if you are missing s1 epics still, pull on the regular 80 pity banner until you get 1 legendary... then stop and hoard for ardeth midseason.

if you get lucky and pull a lego with your first x5 pull, i would go to pity one more time and then stop

[cosmic jewel]

@mental thunder ty Sir

I did 20 summons got beldyn and these 2

I didnt hhad Beldyn heard he is damn good

[limpid latch]

nice dude dalk looks sick

[cosmic jewel]

Is he good

Never seen him in any team

[limpid latch]

sry no idea

[mental thunder]

bleddyn, gerthin and shinnah are super strong - congrats! that will be your new vortex team 🙂 seidic you dont want to build, he's not great. dalk is more for pvp, so dont xp him for now

[latent isle]

I've heard dalk is like talver level bad

[mental thunder]

in pve he doenst have much of a purpose; in pvp he can be decent... but he's an attack based tank, so he's a hybrid.... if he + quesitia were on same team they'd basically nerf any sigrid team

his attack down would castrate sigrid, quesitia would drag in either voresh or sigrid and prevent the debuffs

[limpid latch]

soo no flora for this one?

for irzillas

[mental thunder]

do you have flora? i think that would be an obvious yes

[limpid latch]

yh i showed ss 🙂

[mental thunder]

your screenshots suck

imagine not filtering by affinity and having units all over the place 🫣

[limpid latch]

u could just tell me lol...

[cosmic jewel]

Got him now @mental thunder which team he is good at

[mental thunder]

he's more pvp than pve; excellent in arena for sure

[oblique tide]

Would it be worth it to create a Thunderbolt team with these heroes? All legendaries and epics fit nicely on two screens, got all rares.
Got a 22M dauntless team already, dunno how the endboss will be but might be nice for that + some extra otherworld xp. I just don't know whether Nissa, Shai'nachtan + another Thunderbolt even work; I know it's not a strong archetype

[plush thicket]

The answer is: Maybe. Tbolt has been disappointing numbers wise.

And you Might not be using Nissa. Shai, Hirvolm, and Manda or Nissa. Manda does waaay better vs multiple opponents.

[oblique tide]

Ah alright. If I try it on Talwer, melee is gonna be bad regardless right? So even 7M will be hard there

[plush thicket]

Correct, unless youre using ogguk or zeffi. Like, Erg+Fru does HELP if youre using melee.

[oblique tide]

I don't think I can use either Ergander or Frurbath, I need them for the other teams

Maybe I can use one, but it depends on the new tank I can build

Who would that tank be, Lydia?

[plush thicket]

Ya. Hang on

[plush thicket]

#📊┆dragon-lineup-help message

[oblique tide]

Yeah Gorax especially has great teams!

(Not for this situation btw so I'll check the others out, thanks)

[jovial sonnet]

Anyone has a 22M lossenia team

[mental thunder]

oggok, ergander, sigrid, jijel, eli

[chilly pollen]

can someone post their lineup for beating the 2nd to last stage of corruption meteorite field its 2 zarloths in back and 3 zombies on front line please help im stuck

[sharp path]

Thoughts on best single and multi-team PVP teams? Assuming all are scrolled

[mental thunder]

just use units that have aoe debuffs for back row; iola, irina, zharloth, etc. and put stun sets on them. goal is to lock up the zharloth enemies until you can get rid of the zombies. sigrid also important here to get attack down and damage on them without having to manually target

shields, stun/fear, attack down, healing

[chilly pollen]

thank u will do

[chilly pollen]

i am stuck on fey 42 any help would be great using fur adolphus isolde voresh erich

[mental thunder]

Get rid of errich and go sigrid, easy

[final canopy]

Who are the good light dps i could use alongside hegio, garrius and bronwyn ?

(also is there another healer that May be useful for the ice team ?)

[mental thunder]

Wellby

Quarion is a good healer

And merideth common unit

[visual storm]

So s2 started and some how I'm a day behind is ice blast the best team to target

[golden smelt]

Adolphus or Nathaniel for vortex? My current lineup is Garius, Traveler, Dane, Sigrid and Tonalnan.. im thinking to replace Traveler

[mental thunder]

If you dont have shinnah, there is no iceblast. Shinnah + bleddyn = base, zhorak or gerthin is 3rd spot

[opal helm]

how do you get so many yellow dice?

I only started this game 1 week ago, but yellow dice are so difficult to come by it seems

[visual storm]

Season change over top 50 and saving the crystals I and saving a bit before season ended

[visual storm]

Got her on my seasonal pulls, and then 90 purples gave me all the ib epics I was thinking garius 3x ib and the shield chick.from ice as main/vortex team

[plush thicket]

Which shield chick

And you want Shin, Gerty, Garius with staff, and then the rest of the comp depends on the rest of your unlocks.

Bled as dps < Seidic as dps = Nord as DPS

But Bled can help amp Gerty, but bled is 15% less damage than Seidic or Nord.

[visual storm]

Lego ice shielder

I have all the ib rare and epics

[plush thicket]

Okay Felosia good.

Do you have: vinyara, sagomir, gillian, or rose?

[visual storm]

Nope

All.legos I don't have

[plush thicket]

Run Shin with witch/crown, Garius with staff (if you have it), Gerty with manticore, you can try Bled as dps but theres a chance siedic or nord will do better than bled (most likely), and Felosia then.

Siedic you can get stats higher easier (like def and HP) but nord does the same damage with lesser stats (hes a better dps), and nord also hands out ice crystals

[visual storm]

Yeah I have staff, breast plate, hour glass and witch

[dark pike]

Hi

[plush thicket]

You're hella set then, only thing that will be a big deal to you is the IB arti or getting the arti outta Fey for Gerty.

Side note: Zhor gets a lot of flak but most people dont gear him well enough for him to be better than a 3rd support. So if you do get him, you can run him.

[plush thicket]

lolol grats. Keep rolling on s2 banner, crossing fingers you get Bel like I did.

[visual storm]

Im.out of dice 😦

[plush thicket]

throw hourglass on him and load him up with enlightenment, and attack.

[plush thicket]

Very nice dude. Phae is great in PVP, fyi

[visual storm]

Ill.keep.that in mind ty

Day 2 of my s2 lol

[mental thunder]

Friggin… my account is trash lol

[plush thicket]

pffft naw it aint bad dude.

[mental thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/black-and-white-trash-forky-gif-17312396

[visual storm]

I'm dumb as hell on co.ps ur better off lol

[ornate steppe]

help me for flame domain 4 roster

[hard bobcat]

😫😫😫😫

‏help me help me help me

‏i am not playing

‏help me

‏i am persian

No speak English

[onyx lintel]

lol

[ornate steppe]

hey can u help me

i just need some advice lol

[ornate steppe]

@waxen urchin

[plush thicket]

Do you have enna?

[ornate steppe]

sadly i dont

thats why im having a hard time to decide which should i lvl up

cuz i have limited resources

[plush thicket]

Is catherine skill leveled?

[ornate steppe]

nope

but i do have scrolls

[plush thicket]

Do you have the incense artifact?

[ornate steppe]

wait it that epic?

[plush thicket]

Yes

[ornate steppe]

i dont

i have crown scarab eyeball

[plush thicket]

Can you purchase it?

[ornate steppe]

nope sorry

i dont have dupe

[plush thicket]

Well you would need 56 skill haste without that artifact in order for her max skilled ulti to be able to rotate every 18 seconds.

Otherwise, you need her on the first round before the ulti, and then Ice MC+Someone with attack down 2 (Irina, Shook, etc) on the second round before the ulti, and keep rotating.

Basically its cleanse or shields+attack down 2. Attack down 2 alone MIGHT be enough if your characters are tanky enough.

[ornate steppe]

if i dont have enough haste? i can bring 2 debuff immu? like thia for example?

[plush thicket]

Yea without enough haste youre doing the rotation.

Thia works okay-ish, issue is timing her right.

[ornate steppe]

i think i can only do 40 haste on cath

[plush thicket]

Also I mis-spoke, youd want catherine at the start of the round to prevent debuffs

I was thinking vicuc for cleanse

Same with thia, start of the round, for resist debuffs - but its only ranged who get her benefit.

[plush thicket]

You could probably get away with 50-ish on catherine, she'll just fall behind a bit every round of the boss.

level 1 incense is a huge deal if you wanna time that out better

[ornate steppe]

i need haste on my thia right?

[plush thicket]

You dont need haste if youre rotating every round between catherine and thia

[dark pike]

Hi hi

[ornate steppe]

thank u

[warped kraken]

New player just getting to 70 and pulled Lossenia and Sigrid. Should I swap for sigrid or switch to Ice/Necro and build around Lossenia?

Still have epic and rare chest too

[waxen urchin]

Haha looks like Porch got you first.

Yeah without a cleanser you'll have to alternate Thia Catherine block debuffs

[plush thicket]

Kinda just whatever for a while. Do you still have your free resets?

You can use loss (or rava) to produce debuffs for sigrid. Right now your best tank that Im seeing there is Horrus. So likely:

Horrus, Heks, fire MC, Sigrid, and use Loss for a while to produce debuffs. Make sure you pick up crown for your first epic artifact. Keep rolling dice, more unlocks will come.

[warped kraken]

Yeah I still have resets. Wasn’t sure if throwing in Loss was better than 5 affinity. Thanks for the help.

[plush thicket]

For now, yes. The whole game is completable (except Pillars, obv) with 3 affinity. Later on, especially when you get the 5 affinity bonus unlock, it will matter more.

[opal helm]

what does picking up a crown mean for the first epic artifact?

[final canopy]

Is Martina à good choice for a 3rd light dps

Mulier and evanta looks good as well

[olive rune]

@chilly pollen

[plush thicket]

This. Increases DPS on a target.

[final canopy]

Is awstin (the debuffer archer) good on continental boss ? He seemed tailored for these type of fights

[feral sky]

Help me build a lineup

[ornate steppe]

Just swap Martina and irina for sigrid amd heksandra and ur done

[ocean prairie]

For Poison Team, Im using this
which better sifris or vicus or heksandra for healer ?

[quiet oracle]

Sooo, unless I get Catherine (unlikely) I feel I am struggling to get more out of my Ice Blast vortex team. In which I need a cleanser so don't get 5 pip bonuses.

I have good Dauntless hero's but.... No Frubath :(.
Are any of these vortexable?

[fleet sail]

sitting at 22 million on the world boss running Quarion/Ardreth/Garius/Beldelle/Bleddryn. Think swapping Quarion to Gerthin would push that up to 25?

[dusky bluff]

I wanted to build a poison team using Eli, Dench, horace and that newly pulled legendary. But somehow the DMG is quite lacking. It's difficult to hit high acc (280 for bosses) together with other stats. And how important is enlightenment on those aside from Dench? It says derivative DMG but has no multiplier mentioned unlike Dench.
I would very much appreciate advice on equipment for those.
Or is it pointless anyway because I'm lacking certain poison enabler?

[fleet sail]

Jathalea's just garbage single target

Her ult doesn't make up for the missing poison damage from stripping it off

[faint jay]

@serene forge the leveled one

[final oyster]

[serene forge]

Segamuffin, sutha, frur, sigrid, irina and u go full nuke. Stun set on Sega and maybe irina

[mental thunder]

Probably, you have far too much healing there anyway. Also apparently if you build ardeth accuracy you can put witch remains on her… supposedly because her ult empowers her basic attacks and she can land defense down on them for the duration 🙀

That way all 3 IB can full dps

[fleet sail]

yeah doing that tomorrow since her defense scaling doesn't really matter all that much

But also swapping Quarion out lowered my damage by 5 million somehow

[mental thunder]

Well thats weird

[rugged sundial]

New player here. Anyone I should be leveling here that I'm not aware of?

[fleet sail]

Yeah think it's because it let me survive another wave or two?

[fleet sail]

Vidimir and Rava are insanely good for goblin lair farming. As is Usha. Will let you push stages decently fast if Vidimir gets scrolled up. Still using the first two in season 2 with a stacked roster. Irina's also very important for her attack down in some fights.

Idk which legendary that is, but they're probably good.

Oh thought that was Rava but I had a color mix up moment, that's Gusni, his worse rare brother. My bad.

[mental thunder]

Just fyi if you are a new player, you want to go back to role select and put yourself on season 1, not 2. And have a look at my guide #1202625010984820806

[mental thunder]

Tharivol is one of the best single target dps in the game, he is a big priority. But you need a tank and other dauntless for him to shine… garius for s1, tharivol, irina/iola, schaltar, nimbus. Schaltar, garius, nimbus and iola are epics you dont have yet

Give it a week or three to summon more units before you invest. Sigrid, heks, frurbath, fire MC, dubok/horace is a decent team

[fleet sail]

yeah pulling sigrid and frur early was a stroke of luck, they'll be with you for most fights

[rugged sundial]

Thanks for the answers guys

[rugged sundial]

What do you mean role select? I'm in season 1 on a new server.

[fleet sail]

in the announcements channel

you hit season 2, that's why your name is beige.

you need to hit season 1 to get the proper role

[rugged sundial]

Done thanks.

[mental thunder]

But you also need to unselect s2 lol

I wonder what color s3 will be! Maybe brown!

💩

[lyric nest]

Do you ned a wild on your party for Flora to be any good?

[gray horizon]

hi guys! any ideas how to utilize the summon leggos in the necrotic team? here's my necrotic roster. Or should I just forget about them and build a standard necro team?

[mental thunder]

Most units in a niche damage type mechanic need 1-2 others of the same. More wild procs = usually more effectiveness from the wild units

[ornate steppe]

@mental thunder what do u think of my lineup
frurbath
thia
catherine
sigrid
irina

for flame domain 4
i kept losing mayb e cuz of skill timing

[mental thunder]

I think you dont need that much immunity and need more damage

[ornate steppe]

my skill is so slow so i think i need both for now?

[mental thunder]

Ditch thia or catherine you dont need both; ditch irina you dont need 3 attack downs

[ornate steppe]

so do i use

mc?

[mental thunder]

Bring shields

Shields, one immunity and heals + attack down should be enough

[mental thunder]

It depends because in some content you just cant use melee

[ornate steppe]

@mental thunder

[mental thunder]

Irzillas and tioh are melee. Gaiolere needs 1-2 other summoners to be effective

[ornate steppe]

my roster take a look

[mental thunder]

Quarion, catherine, frurb, sigrid, ice mc or dubok for shields

Quarion provides defense up and heals; catherine immunity, time it halfway through boss bar to prevent the second burn; quarion and frurb ults just before boss ult

[ornate steppe]

alright thankss

[safe nebula]

Does lighting radiance have good tanks like horrus and frurb?

Epic prefarable as i have the dps but no tank

What r u guys using for tank

[zenith nimbus]

Lydia epic double immortality if no dispel enemy and every 3 attack give shield

[safe nebula]

Which 5 for pillars progress?

[zenith nimbus]

Calmari resurrection but runs to enemy so they maybe target backrow then

[scenic ember]

H

[final canopy]

I'm really sorry guys but i'm asking since ages about what good dps i could take with hegio and wellby but i'l always drown by others convos so i'll ask until someone give me names

[frank egret]

Think it’s that alot less people have good radiance groups than not wanting to help you

[keen idol]

Hi everyone starting s2 right now and finished pulling s1 tickets. Was wondering with what team to start off ( as f2p player )

[brisk charm]

What do you have and is this for, Ardeth event? I mean, Philto is probably the strongest DPS in Radiant, but if you don’t have him then it’s not much use suggesting him.

[final canopy]

Here

@brisk charm

Ardeth event but also maybe vortex

[dusky bluff]

quarion is also good healer.
sadly hegio is not as good against continental boss - journ... you preferably want to use ranged dps in that fight because melee take a lot of dmg.
Wellby is a good dps but i don't see good rally enabler for you aside from hegio in your roster
for vortex this season iceblast is king but if you want to use radiant team there i would probably go for hegio, wellby and that dude that has a buff on his ult - he also can apply rally

[final canopy]

Ok, so another good dps is "that dude that has a buff on his ult"

i'll try to see who it is

is it alvis @dusky bluff ?

[dusky bluff]

well idk if can really do good dps. he only has his bs, which has a slightly better multiplier than most . but he should be able to help getting rally buff and also his other buffs will help a lot with dmg

[final canopy]

i don't have the time and stamina to lvl up 3 ranged light dps and improve my others teams as well anyway 😦

[dusky bluff]

yes, that's always not an easy thing to do. maybe focus on another boss first if you have more options available

[final canopy]

well my main team is light/frost

i didn't lvled up hegio, garrius and gillian just to focus on something else lol

i think wellby isn't too far from 90, i just need a 3rd dmg dealer filler

but most of the light dps seems to be melee

[dusky bluff]

well eventually you'd preferably have 6 different teams for all 6 bosses

[safe nebula]

Odd team to 3 star it

[mental thunder]

... garius lol

but clovis + giliian is a good combo

[safe nebula]

That is the one i dont have lol

Clovis or lydia?

[mental thunder]

clovis has attack down on his ult

lydia has no debuffs only control immunity

[safe nebula]

That is true but he fights entire map lol

So missing tank sometimes because of it

[mental thunder]

you are thinking kamari

[safe nebula]

They look like twins lol

[mental thunder]

although idk clovis that well, maybe he jumps too

[grand harness]

Getting very frustrated with the game constantly disconnecting and reconnecting over and over again, since update. No my other games are not having this problem just Dragonheir

[mental thunder]

i dont know of anyone having the same issue

[frank egret]

You’re looking at some people who have played for 6months

[opal sundial]

Now that I have an overall working setup in s2 I am looking for another CC hero alongside Iola…hints appreciated

[valid bloom]

Hi what is the best be to team I can build for season boss?

[final canopy]

yes, i'm trying to build them but don't have the time to run so many goblin runs

[mortal mountain]

quaesitia / torrin / gaiolere / zadok / +1 probably

if you are talking about the endgame boss then you will probably go irzillas / torrin / gaiolere / zadok / lelwanis or utior for that cuz you don't need tanks

[onyx lintel]

idk if I'll be able to do more than 8 teams this season

Wanted 10 but idk if I'm gonna gave the resources

[onyx lintel]

what? there's not enough energy for that, max useable teams is 15

Practically you need 13 max because you use those other 2 runs for the mission and the domain daily

[onyx lintel]

Meant that for yoy

[final canopy]

i don't understand what you mean BCFre

i don't have time for building 6 teams and then you say i need 13 max ?

[onyx lintel]

For OW, 13 is my magic number. 13 different 22m teams will net you the most points generally

[dusky bluff]

is 13 teams more profitable crystal wise? you skip 3 daily commision right?

[onyx lintel]

You would do 13x Chaos Shadows, 1x domain run, and 1x commission for a total of 150 energy

13 teams is a lot tho... need to have a solid plan throughout the season to do that

I might be able to do 9 of them at max this season but idk even about 10

[final canopy]

lmao i have like 3 teams around lvl 90 and i'm already exhausted by all these dungeons

how the hell do you manage to have 13 different teams

[plush thicket]

Less gear runs, more goblin and ele domains

[onyx lintel]

People spend a lot of time playing this game. I only have 8 atm

[final canopy]

aint nobody got the stamina for that

[plush thicket]

You also really don’t have to 99/100 everyone, Talwer you can do with a level 1 vicuc

[final canopy]

hey, can awstin be useful on continental boss ? i'm short of ranged light dps

[onyx lintel]

Vicuc a good idea, maybe I'll try 3 lightning teams lol

[scarlet arch]

Is an ice blast team sufficient with bleddyn and Shinnah?

[plush thicket]

Bled or shinnah, they’re both crystal enablers

Gerty and bel are the best dps

Seidic and nord are better dps than bled, Nord produces ice crystals as well

[onyx lintel]

Bleddyn and Shinnah kinda function similarly. Shinnah does it better tho

[restive ocean]

Can I get some help with season 1 boss

I have been using Furbath, errick, sigrid, hexandra, and vicuc

I can't get past the 2nd part

[brisk charm]

Which boss, Child of Chaos? Just off the bat having Heks/Frur/Vivuc feels like you probably have too many heals and not enough damage

[scarlet arch]

Thanks darn guess I got the enablers but no dps

[brisk charm]

If it’s child of Chaos, could probably switch Vicuc or Heks (don’t have Vicuc, I used Heks and don’t remember thinking I really need a cleanser) for someone like Eli to do some more damage. 2nd part is the hand that takes out the Tank iirc, and Eli placed behind that can Ult to hit both easily, and you’ll just want to manually target Errich/Sigrid's to also hit the hand too. Once Frur is broken free he can be you second healer again.

[grand vale]

What I'm doing wrong?

[halcyon copper]

any hero suggestion S1 hero line up for fey meander 117 3/4

[golden smelt]

What's the best set gear for Adolphus? 3 platinum or 2 platinum + 2 troll?

[mental thunder]

It is just gear, levels, scrolls

[mental thunder]

Neither, i would run 3 ear with high enlight 🤷‍♂️

[golden smelt]

Sorry, which one is ear?

[halcyon copper]

mine lol

[mortal mountain]

probably ergander / adolphus / sigrid / dane / +1 will get you through a lot of it with proper gearing

[compact barn]

@mortal mountain what are your thoughts? I’m doing about 6.4mil on vortex

[mortal mountain]

have you used your free rare chest pick?

[compact barn]

Yes… I used on voresh to partner with sigrid, now I’m a little kicking myself

[mortal mountain]

no the rare chest

comes from level 10 walker's trial not the epic 1$ one

[compact barn]

Yes I have

[mortal mountain]

you don't really have anything worth going out of your way to build rn, what's your current setup?

[compact barn]

I use
Voresh
Garious
Vinyara
Sigrid
Tioh

I have 17 helo dice for when the 80 event ends

[mortal mountain]

yeah not worth changing it up atm just make sure vin and sig keep atk penalty up fulltime. Can maybe swap out one for meggan if that'll let you live longer to do more damage, but if you get an usha then you can build her as a frost dps and put her with somebody that lands frost on boss

usha one of the strongest cold dps that is attainable without pulling legendaries

once you get errich you could build around errich + nedda + whoever keeps them alive

and eventually you'll go for 5-affinity teams when you have full psychicore but until then it's not a big deal. Ideal to get it on your dps over your supports / tank though because they usually die first

but by then you'll have pulled more stuff so things will change

like if you get a tonalnen or a shaltar those will both enable 25m vortex 4 teams depending on other champs you can build

[compact barn]

Thank you! I have been focusing on getting venom, and I can almost kill venom 9. Just my vortex dps seems lacking

[vivid sparrow]

Ughhh ancient battlefield 9 is the worst

[feral sky]

Who to pick

Who to pick

[mortal mountain]

unless you planning to whale i would avoid pulling on the time-limited banners

pull on main banner instead you can only get exclusives from main banner

pity of 35 per legendary doesn't carry between celestial banner and main banner, so once the banner ends you lose your pity, so have to make sure you have enough helio to get what you're after if you go for a targetted banner

main banner pity stays always even after the 0/80 event ends and goes to next event

That being said, if you are going to summon on that banner, I would personally go for journ or torrin or ergander

[latent isle]

Torrin, Gareth, lorenthel way more valuable

[strange plank]

good morning

could someone suggest a line up for venom please here is my roster

also a team for vortex please these r the two areas i need to sort out thxs

[restive ocean]

Yes, child of chaos

[empty trench]

Any big brain individuals that could help me build otherworld boss teams? Im on S1

[strange plank]

anyone able to adivce me on a venom and vortex team please roster is up above

[ornate steppe]

can someone teach on doing skill timing on flame

[lunar gale]

You need to clean before he triggers the burn, just look at his info to see the timings

[ebon thistle]

I've had success with a scrolled Enna in skill haste gear. If you can get down to about 18s on her ultimate. (You can also pair with other heroes that slow the bosses ultimate or reduce energy to help with timing.)

But anyway, manually cast Enna after the second round of burns is applied. This will clear it before the boss ultimates. Don't cleanse right when she hits that ability, it takes a couple seconds for the burn to apply. Wait until right when you see your troops get hit with the additional burns.

If lucky with Enna having ~18s ultimate, you can then let her auto cast/cycle the rest of the fight.

One more tip, don't let Enna use her ultimate near the end of the previous encounter. Save that first one to be manually triggered.

[ornate steppe]

thankk youu

[vocal yoke]

Where is there a website that shows all the companions /champions from common to legendary ? Or is there one .??

[latent isle]

[lilac storm]

Sup all, I'm looking for some1 who can help to build up a Pvp lineup. I have some difficulities atm

[mental thunder]

In the game you click gallery

[sharp path]

Caledo vs Meredith as a healer for S1 Otherworld Errich? this would be on a third team, trying to see if there's a viable option that deep.

[restive ocean]

I need a good team and gear setup for child of chaos. I can't seem to be able to break Furbath out of the prison. And signed won't target the prison. What am I doing wrong

Is it easier on a pc?

[mental thunder]

you need debuffs on everything for sigrid to target everything; depending on only frurb to provide that will make it difficult if he is trapped and cant ult

heks/vicuc + frurb + adolphus + sigrid + another debuffer would be ideal

[restive ocean]

What about lolo

[mental thunder]

iola would be excellent yes

give her crit% gloves and some attack too for more damage

[mental thunder]

nathaniel over heks is viable too, but you' dgive sigrid and frurb less synergy

adolphus should be fine + frurb + sigrid; nathaniel + iola 👌

or ditch nathaniel and go with nimbus for even more damage

[civic moon]

Hi all, who will help me with the lightning/radiance pillar trials?

[mental thunder]

irina, nathaniel, berrik, hegio/nimbus, quarion maybe

[civic moon]

What’s a good formation if I rock two melee as I use berrik atm and have hegio levelled so would prefer to use him instead of nimbus

Team atm, struggling on level 20

[mental thunder]

melee kinda sucks is the point lol

you group too many units together like a tank + melee and you asking for aoe on them

[civic moon]

Yes only because Quarion heal radius is annoying

[formal yoke]

Can you please help me build an all lightning, all radiant, and combined team.

[zinc nest]

Vani, Nimbus, shagrol, Nathaniel, Bionphray. (For DMG against single bosses.)
Iola, Irina, Nathaniel, Bionphray, Enna (general purpose, can replace Enna with a ranged DMG dealer)

Garius, Quarion, Sagomir, Wellby and the epic radiant rally archer. Tathlyn

@formal yoke

[limpid dagger]

I know I have prob made some less than optimal choices so far but I am early on into the season personally. Can anyone make suggestions based on what I have so far for what might be my optimal team for atleast the current point to work upon? I don’t mind switching and figured those more knowledgeable would be best to ask for advice up to this point.

[spare cedar]

Tr

[dark pike]

Help! How do I turn off the new graphics fade in fade out option on the main game play page?

[zinc nest]

Are you season 1 or 2 hayes

[limpid dagger]

Season 2, I had taken a break from the game and when came back it shifted me into second one.

[zinc nest]

Horrus is the best proper tank you have there. So probably go with him as frontliner. Adolphus for shields + ult up + heals.
Fire traveller for 3 man affinity.
Then could use off affinity Heksandra as healer and need another DPS, which I don't see.

If you have the Rare selection box from Walker Trials, get a Sigrid and she will help you for now.

Rava is a great Frost enabler when you get more Frost units besides Usha ( Lossenia is Rava legendary upgrade)

Bleddyn and Zhorak are nice Ice Blast supports, in case you get a Gerthin (Beldelle is Gerthin legendary upgrade)

Martina needs a rally enabler which you don't have. She's good yet I wouldn't use her.

Enna is good for cleanse, for now. Against the Fire Domain, in case you need it.

The rest are situational. Usable, but not for a general purpose everyday team

[onyx lintel]

My 8th team

Got 3 more I'm trying to finish in the next couple days but it's sooo much breads

I'm fine with 11 tbh

[stark wigeon]

hey guys, looking for some help with pillar of trial team light/rad. pref with main char for lower investment.

[strange plank]

@mental thunder hi mate any chance u hve a look at my roster and suggest a team for venom and also a team for vortex thxs

[onyx lintel]

Personally I would reroll to a new server and start fresh S1

[mental thunder]

ofc

[strange plank]

my roster is a posts up

[mental thunder]

you are s2 😁 did you forget how to play when they reset you 😛

garius main tank, frurb offtank, adolphus, sigrid, dane/errich woul dbe fine i'm sure. and i would not be leveling main character in s2, he's really poo

[mental thunder]

vortex is tough though man; you pulled durem who is an enabler but you didnt pull karf or aeschetius or even the epic lizard dps burn dude; you could run lyle + durem + beags but the damage would stink. need the lizard or another lego for better burn. you pulled bleddyn, the best epic IB... but no others, so that's not going to work. and like rally people say "no shinnah, no IB"... that leaves you with a wild team of like errich and nedda but i dont see other wild epics, so 2 wild only i wouldnt build.... and that brings us to lightning and poison. frurb tank, nathaniel support..... shagrol, vani.... bleh no nimbus, and i wouldnt build thurnus. so i guess my concern here is you have like bits and pieces of every element but seems like you have far too few heroes overall to already be done a whole season. do you have a lot of pulls hoarded or something? did you miss several weeks? skip some events? because idk how you don't have more epics unless you simply just pulled all dupes for an entire season. really need tonalnan, nimbus, zharloth and the new burn epic lizard to have a few options.

[strange plank]

i gave th egame a break cos i was getting fustrated but came back yesterday cos i want to try again

[strange plank]

lol it has been a while

[mental thunder]

well, you see.... when you do that, you kind of set yourself back 😔 i can prob get you 10m score on III vortex but that's it.

missing too many pieces to get to that next level

vani, shagrol, frurbath, nathaniel, shook

[strange plank]

lol at moment i am only getting 900k

so 10m would be very very nice

[strange plank]

yea not complaing only hve myself to blame

[mental thunder]

just the nature of gacha games and f2p life; gotta be super consistent or you fall behind is all. i hate it but it is what it is

fortunately i work from home so i just play all day

[strange plank]

also when i pulled u wont belive but i did get crap loads of same epic champs totally sucks but what can i do

[strange plank]

yeap aagin not complaining just getting on with it

so thxs for the suggestions and will start build them

[viscid dirge]

How does one defeat this as questa annialates everyone

[mental thunder]

Well, first id make sure you arent grouped up so dork and rip dont ult you. Then obviously focus questa down and try to keep hvitar stun locked. You may want to run a dauntless like tharivol to focus questa down and make sure your oggok is her bait target for jump, off in a corner alone

[viscid dirge]

Thanks i changed to my radiant frost put hp% on the backline as i see she goes for lowest hp first then just whittled everyone down..erg first time im so high in fey..its seriously difficult

[zinc nest]

If you put someone low health (like dps) in a corner and a tanky support diagonal of it, jumpers will jump to the dps and focus fire on the support. It helps a bit..

[tepid crescent]

hi, have a problem beat this mob, i am stuck there ...

[civic moon]

Really struggling on level 29 pillars, I've tried Nathaniel he's now level 100.. still cant get close enough or do enough damage

[zinc nest]

Its a tough one.
Irina Nathaniel for sure.
Kamari can tank a little but unreliable, same as Lydia
Maybe should wait for some pulls and come back. Looks hard with current rooster

[civic moon]

I was saving dice for S2 as I'm one day out

think i should risk it and spin a few?

[zinc nest]

Check your summon query for regular banner ( settings => customer service icon => Summon query)
If you are close to a pity Lego on regular banner, why not.
Otherwise maybe is better just to save, and admit defeat for now.

Can still try with Irina Shook Nathaniel a proper tank like Lydia or Kamari ( instead of Hegio /Martina /Giotuna. And a healer like.. don't have Enna not Quarion. Mhm ..

There's a common hero, a gyal, she heals nice if lacking other options

[mental thunder]

If you are only a day out just take the L on pillar and next season push earlier when you get better heroes

[civic moon]

Hmm true

[civic moon]

I have Quarion, not in the photo for some reason and i have Enna

@zinc nest lemme resend as missing a few..

That’s my main roster

[zinc nest]

Maybe Wellby can do DMG, while Irina supports, Nathaniel shield heals, Hegio gives Rally to Wellby and Enna / Quarion heals?

[civic moon]

Yeah I've tried that but doesn't seem to do enough damage and/or i end up dieing

I have all lego gear so its a bit confusing really, boss doesn't give much info either

[radiant gorge]

What kind of gear am I looking to have on Gerthin. I have inventors stuff on him now. But am I looking to have attack as the main stat??

[zinc nest]

80% CRIT rate, a lot of CRIT DMG + a lot of atk

[serene forge]

Suggestions ? I dont remeber the tactic to kill this

[zinc nest]

Maybe a 5 man affinity could work

[wheat jetty]

Hi, on my Server the Copper Dragon should start in 3 Days. So far i have following teams. Which of them need adjustment for this boss?
Fire: Horrus, Vicuc, Flora, Errich, Tonalnan

Necro: Ripekas, Ghul-ende, Zhar'Loth, Adrie, Questa

Poison: Ergander, Frurbath, Sigrid/Horace, Dench, Eli

Lightning: Nimbus, Quarion, Shaltar, Garius, iola

Radiance: Sagomir, Acilia, Tathlyn, Philto, Alton

Ice: Felosia, Meggan, Rowena, Eurion, Rava

[zinc nest]

Lighting team maybe has too much healing too few DPS.
Same as Ice

[wheat jetty]

well these 2 teams are really my weakness. no good frost or dauntless

could use shagrol in lightning, which didnt work for OE encounter

and dorkuraz or vidimir as frost. but i really do not like all 3 of them

is melee working on the copper dragon? if yes i have garett as dauntless

[zinc nest]

Dragon is more about doing aoe ( or huge st ) DMG, play around ultimate ups ( candle Arti and the other one are huge) and debuffing drake enough for a lot of DMG.
Not many people worry about a dedicated tank for cooper dragon

Yeah melee works c:

[wheat jetty]

then i will use garett, i have 3 days and 4 breads for it

but ice is still a problem

[zinc nest]

Should work.
Can always use Usha or Drizzt

[wheat jetty]

i didnt have a chance to get drizzt

[wheat jetty]

do i need acc for the ult manipulation and debuffing a stack from the dragon?

[zinc nest]

No afaik

[wheat jetty]

nice 🙂 than i need enough heroes who manipulate as the 2 artefacts are leveled

[mortal mountain]

Bring something like adolphus for shields / protection, put stun set on zhar'loth, bring buff stripper helps, something like healing prohibition can be good or just stunlock them and kill slowly. Can also do questa and try to clear torrin first if you can't stunlock them.

[brisk charm]

Not debuffing a stack, but iirc Ult Down on the enemy is an Accuracy check and if it passed then you decrease the enemy stacks, but Ult Up on your own units will always trigger it

[mortal mountain]

you definitely need a healer / protection for backline though because grishnaar passive chunks your dps hard at that level

[cosmic tundra]

Hello

[zinc nest]

Hallo

[balmy spoke]

Out of thelendor/philto/huberg, which two are best for temporal vortex?

[plush thicket]

Do you have Lorentheel?

[ornate steppe]

can someone help me on rot 5

i dont have enna

[balmy spoke]

Yes

[plush thicket]

Philto and Huberg. You can TRY thelendor without the exclusive arti and he might hit what you need, but several I know do better with Huberg than Thelendor without the exclusive.

[honest falcon]

Someone help me with my dragon dps line up, I use auster, rava for my dps. Who's better 3rd dps? Rowena or Usha both are booked?

[viscid dirge]

Anyone know a good f2p way to beat spiderboss level 230 fey 170?

[latent isle]

Usha is cheap

[grand vale]

Goblin lair ok?

[cosmic jewel]

Can sumone help me with poison/lightning Team for Vortex,

[mental thunder]

Could be better not but horrible for early game. You want to replace fire mc with someone that has debuff aoe

[mental thunder]

Oggok, frurb, sutha, tharivol, ivellios… sutha holds your defense down artifact on accuracy setup

You are season 2 and you have all these leggos, why cant you figure that out yourself?

[cosmic jewel]

I have another ac for season 1 im at learning stage and its always better to take advise from the Pros

[mental thunder]

I understand, but i wouldnt advertise you are using someone else’s account because it is against terms of service

[cosmic jewel]

Nah i have my own ac

[mental thunder]

Im just saying mods dont like it

[cosmic jewel]

Ok Sir

Noted

@mental thunder ty very much Sir

[ocean prairie]

any good rare hero for radiance/ice team ?

[strange plank]

afternoon

question who should i get to 90 first

[mental thunder]

are you season 1 or 2? your tag/color says 1, so it would be radiance/lightning

but ofc you have both s1 and s2 tags so who can tell

[mental thunder]

adolphus

or garius probably...

and frurb. and nathaniel. and sigrid 🙂 all of them first

[strange plank]

sorted

[mental thunder]

no you haha, that was to the other dude

and tagging yourself is in #🪧┆role-selection

[strange plank]

oh hehehe my bad

@mental thunder 😦 i am at that stage where i need epic crystals but to do that ineed to do lvl 3 of domains and um struggling on killing bosses (oh the joys of playing games like these)

this is my tempest domain champs

this is my frost domain champs

and this is my flame domain champs

can anyone see anyone better at doing them or r they ok to use

[mental thunder]

well first off you got to analyze what you are up against here. you have no tank slotted despite having eurion and garius right there staring at you, so i'm not sure about why you made that choice lol... second, tempest requires AOE to clear the adds the boss summons, and you brought durem and fire MC, so that is fine... but gadros has no point there at all, and i dont know why you are using the rare summoner at all, she sucks by herself - she is really just an enabler to summon 2 skeletons and then buff them; but that is something you do when you have irzillas, gaiolere, lelwanis or zadok on your team - and you arent using them, so there is no synergy.

[mental thunder]

and for frost and flame, why arent you putting your actual tank UP FRONT... durango being up front means he is being targeted! he's going to die doing that!

[strange plank]

this is why i hve you @mental thunder to kick me up my arse hehehe

[ocean prairie]

S2

[mental thunder]

for tempest you should be using garius, adolphus, deverick, lyle, durem

[strange plank]

@mental thunder tbh flame is the one i am struggling as usual any suggestions for flame thxs mate i do appercaite what u do for me mate

my roster saving scrolling all th eway up

[mental thunder]

flame use enna, nathaniel, garius, frurbath, sigrid

just time enna's cleanse, frurb attack down, nathaniel shields just before boss ult... garius heals after and sigrid just let her do her thing on auto

[ocean prairie]

any recom lineup for beat tempest domain with this ?

[mental thunder]

remember you arent bound to just these elements... you can do just 3/5 affinity or 0 affinity and be successful in dungeons.

i'm using 0 affinity on my venom 9 auto team

like my guide says multiple times: team skill synergy > levels > gear > affinity/positioning

if you have better units in poison and lightning, you can succeed in flame domain without just radiance/ice

by mixing and matching for best team synergy.

[ocean prairie]

yeah I still mix and match with other Affinity with fit other team,
my main team with 5/5 Poison and cant beat that tempest because the penalty

[mental thunder]

right, so you can use fire, ice, radiance and necro

and make a team that will work best against that boss, not just an affinity 5 team of 2 elements

like i think thelendor and wellby are excellent for tempest; clovis could be a good tank... quarion a good heals.... but you could really use a shielder like adolphus that will also add more heals and/or a cleanser because boss will add electrocuted debuff and do bonus damage to you

or zharloth for another aoe dps, heals + can hold defense down artifact for you

[stark wigeon]

I am struggling in Venom9, using a lineup recommended here from @mental thunder. Basicly my Horrus is getting stomped by the boss, usually dead before first ult.
Can manage to kill lvl8 but I want to advance...
Is this a gear issue? or I need change placements?

[ocean prairie]

any recom other cleanser ? I have vicuc but maybe too weak
my lineup before Clovis - Thelendor - Gitouna - Quarion - Awstin

[mental thunder]

definitely going to be a gear issue; for 9 you want 4000 defense. go farm curse for def% main legendary body and hands then you should be ok. def main runes also, and preferably both have def% and hp% subs of some kind

[mental thunder]

vicuc is poison, he'd get stomped in tempest

[stark wigeon]

So I need to advance in Curse for legendary gear first basicly before being able to attempt 9 ?

[mental thunder]

like my guide says, you go back and forth in dungeons to advance. curse for 1 set of tank gear, venom for dps gear, rot for debuffer.... then back to curse to get higher tier tank gear, venom for higher tier dps gear, rot for higher tier healer/debuffer

back and forth to 9, and dont forget runes

[stark wigeon]

Ye this is true, been kinda slacking on them runes. Prob is I am not even close to beating rank7 Curse at the moment. Tried with a team you also recommended me, but might also be stats so working at the moment on 5starring Shook.
this is the team: garius main tank, adolphus, shook, sigrid, irina

[ocean prairie]

what do u think about Durem - Horrus - Gladros - Meggan - Zadok

[mental thunder]

you are dabbling in burn and summon but have no synergy with either.

pick one and roll with it

[ocean prairie]

Oh ya u right

then need few burn for support durem

[mental thunder]

like you could totally just run beags, lyle, durem, horrus, meggan. horrus just needs accuracy enough to land attack down

[stark wigeon]

I recently got that free halfling legendary, would he be worth lvling up and using outside a wild party?

[mental thunder]

another team that is strong is using adrie and questa to reduce boss ult gauge (meaning they both need accuracy but they are both DPS so they need to be high acc, high crit, high attack)

horrus, megga, questa, adrie, gadros

[mental thunder]

if you arent using a wild party of 2-3 wilds errich loses his effectiveness. that said, i used to use him in venom by himself in s1 and he was fine with sigrid.

[ocean prairie]

I also saw some ppl use this line up for another boss

[mental thunder]

yes, that's why i suggested it - you can make that work at midseason for shainactan

horrus, meggan, zadok, adrie, questa might be better though

[stark wigeon]

My favourite champion at the moment is "Over before it began" haha

[mental thunder]

i play with sound off, they are annoying wiht their repeated nonsense

[stark wigeon]

Haha try to hurt me

[ornate steppe]

is errich and alfie good combo for vortex?

[sly pebble]

Hello, may I ask for some suggestions on what team to build for Auster chief challenge? Its week 2 of the Utior event and I still can't reach 7m damage.
I use Errich, Nedda, Adolphus, Horrus, MC Fire and did 3.5m last week

[mental thunder]

well first off, why do you have a bunch of 90s at midseason.... you should have more 100s by now. so that right there has me concerned and thinking that this also applies to your gear as far as farming effort - are you in full sets of legendary gear 3 piece with legendary runes? are your artifacts appropriate and maxed?

i would also ditch fire MC there and go alfie for a third wild and give errich your defense down artifact

make sure horrus is landing attack down, spread out so auster isnt hitting everyone with his ult

which also means you will probably have to bait him by moving adolphus closer to be near horrus, which also means he needs to be tanky

or you can make alfie your tanky bait unit since he is a low dps

[ocean prairie]

Mostly the MC useless ya ? I never saw ppl use that

on higher boss

[mental thunder]

well in s1 he has his uses, s2 he's phased out basically, zero point in existence

s1 people level him up from the start so you already have the xp investment anyway

so use him if you need a unit, but in s2 you shouldnt need to touch him at all

[ocean prairie]

I see, also because max scroll earlier make him stronger

[mental thunder]

right, free scrolled unit early is a benefit in s1

[ocean prairie]

btw from ur guide I saw Eli mostly u use for Goblin only ?

is it better using Usha for all content as 2nd DPS

[mental thunder]

for goblin, usha is a melee up front unit tanking the goblins for you

elia and sigrid in back ranged, eli is replaceable by aoe debuff units

like deverick, rava, dorkruz, dane, rowena, some legos, etc

[ocean prairie]

For Now my main lineup for all content

Frur - Eli - Sigrid - Heksandra/Vicuc - Shagrol

wondering to replace shagrol for better dps specially vortex

[ocean prairie]

oh ya, goblin I using dench - Sigrid for the aoe debuff

[mental thunder]

well for vortex you really dont want sigrid

single hit ult, trash damage .... shagrol would be better there but then you want a dauntless team

[ocean prairie]

For dauntless need pair or some dauntless hero like burn / poison do ?

[mental thunder]

2-3 dauntless ya

and if you have nathaniel, heks has no place in vortex poison/lightning

[ocean prairie]

Oh really, iirc my sigrid has high dps on that

[sly pebble]

I just let them stay at 90 to test out and make them. My only maxed out artifacts are Crown, Eyeball, and Vile. most of them are +12

I did test replacing Fire MC with alfie but the dps significantly dropped.

[ocean prairie]

how about Jijel ? I saw some ppl use that

[mental thunder]

if you are just casual playing why worry too much about these chiefs? s1 i didnt know what i was doing either and i just did 300k to them for minimal rewards then walked away

every unit should be 95-99 and tank/dps need to be 100.

not to mention if you arent using derivative damage heroes, vile ink is basically useless artifact, preventing crits

[bright notch]

👍

[sly pebble]

uhm because they are challenging and fun?

[sly pebble]

I use vile only for Lothair.

[mental thunder]

then just take what you can get if you arent investing a ton into building optimal teams

[sly pebble]

I'm just asking for suggestions for a team

[mental thunder]

ok lothair makes sense then with vile; he is a good vortex unit but is basically kinda bleh without hourglass legendary artifact on corrin to enable him. otherwise just build lothair crit/attack and use him as a normal aoe dps ult

like in goblins and such. vile ink not going to do much if you dont have mega poison stacks on a target

[sly pebble]

Uhm my concern was team to build on Auster team, not about Lothair's uses with Vile. I don't know how it ended up here

Nevermind, thanks anyway

[mental thunder]

because you dont know what you are doing and i'm trying to help educate you?

i also already gave you advice on auster, read it

[ocean prairie]

any recom for some dauntless ?
in my opinion Thurnus because the passive

[mental thunder]

well first off, schaltar is top tier because of what he brings to the team of dauntless so absolutely there. nimbus is ranged so he's also fantastic. shagrol is multi hit artifact and while not the best in pve, he can be used in vortex to hold your defense down artifact and put on accuracy setup.

schaltar, nimbus, shagrol, frurbath....... and ideally nathaniel. but for now can use enna for additional heals. make sure frurb has the accuracy to land attack down. there's your vortex team.

if you pull nathaniel, level him and plug and play for enna. that team would get you like 30m in vortex IV

[ocean prairie]

Enna better than Vicuc / heks ?

[mental thunder]

You can use vicuc instead sure

That way you dont have to level another unit

[ocean prairie]

so basically all skill with debuff / red text mean need accuracy for sucess it ya ?

[mental thunder]

yes

[ocean prairie]

I see, thank you for advice 👍🏻

[mental thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/burn-so-long-stink-town-simpsons-homer-simpson-burning-bridges-gif-5640116

imagine being a complete newbcakes and being rude to one of the few people who care enough to spend their time helping others and whom has cred with everyone else on this discord who will see your ignorance and let you wallow in it

types a bunch of stuff, deletes it, types more, deletes it..... resorts to clown emoji

👌 🤭 good one, you got me

[sly pebble]

Oh you waited? 🥹

[mental thunder]

i sit here all day helping people who are respectful and ask good questions

[sly pebble]

You sure got a lot of time "caring" for people

[mental thunder]

https://tenor.com/view/kl-gif-25745415

[viscid dirge]

How does one pass this

[sly pebble]

Imagine discouraging newbcakes on doing chief challenges because they felt the event was useless. While the newbcakes is just trying to play because its challenging and fun. Just indirectly saying that doing those efforts on completing the event are useless. Yeah sure, very caring and thoughtful.

Also you answering questions for the newbcakes is your choice. No one asked you to do it. Is it your job in this server? I don't think so since you don't have a discord role neither. You're just staying on this specific channel to "care" for people. But when an argument comes up, you use that "I care for newbs" cards like someone asked you to do it.

I appreciate the answers for the questions like any newb would do. But don't think too highly of yourself just because you started the game earlier. You said I completely don't have any clue on what I'm doing and you're trying to educate me? Lol I was just asking for a team suggestion, but you just summed everything up that I don't know anything like you're some sort of a god.

But when I just gave you clown emojis, immediately activate the "caring person" card. Nice try

[mental thunder]

you are way above my paygrade now juju lol

[mental thunder]

read my advice again. i said if you arent playing seriously why are you beating your head against it? i cant give you a magical strat if you arent farming the gear, the xp and dont have the units. i offered you a team by way of advice but i pointed out deficiencies that you could work to remedy. GFY if you just want to be a butthurt whiner and insult me

you DONT know what you are doing

and now you dont have my help figuring that out

[sly pebble]

Why would I ask an advice if I'm not playing seriously

[mental thunder]

your definition of playing seriously is very different than most

[sly pebble]

Yeah sure MrKnowItAll

[mental thunder]

dude just stop talkign to me, i am done with you and this convo in a help thread

[sly pebble]

Didn't ask you at the first place. Its a public channel

[mental thunder]

idk who would want to even talk to you after this conversation 🤷‍♂️

[sly pebble]

Why? Because a month-old player did some mistakes and call it not playing seriously? Like you're a perfect player when you started the game because you're just gonna sum it up like that because I'm lacking some things compared to when you started the game?

[mental thunder]

ohhh i remember this one, it was HARD. the issue is that each gardrus targets a 3 tile wide line area. so if you bunch up anywhere below the top or bottom line, your units will get hit with overlapping aoe. you can avoid 2 of them but not all 3

so you can line up 3 or 4 units alone the top, tank start at the top square in front so he moves only 1 square down

that way you can minimize the damage incoming at least. then try and time stuns so they arent overwhelming your tank

also have to be careful bc grishnaar causes you to damage yourself and it can really add up for multi hit ults on him

i've had my iola nearly oneshot herself

[sly pebble]

Yeah sure. Don't see you that much in the general chat neither so I don't think no one will talk to me

[mental thunder]

dude still going on and on and i have him blocked

[plush thicket]

#💡┆community-help message

Basically blow up grish asap and then the dps can go through.

[sly pebble]

Dude is avoiding reality. Truth sure do hurts

[viscid dirge]

@sly pebble stop

Enough

[sly pebble]

Why?

Okay

Will do

[viscid dirge]

Because you are trying to start fights and i wont tolerate such behavior especially when someone has tried helping you and you become rude

[mental thunder]

i know i can be abrasive and that you can misinterpret my written words as being condescending (a lot of the time, because i'm blunt)... but the nonsense is ridiculous.

[viscid dirge]

@mental thunder @plush thicket thanks for advise

[mental thunder]

there is actually i think another gardrus battle coming up that is even worse...

[plush thicket]

I'm with Juju here.

Take a deep breath, both of ya. Personal attacks aren't necessary.

[mental thunder]

i think it has like 5 of them across the back

and 2 tanks?

[viscid dirge]

@mental thunder please step back rather than reply more to him or anything else

[viscid dirge]

I wanna cry i hate these kinds of battles

[mental thunder]

oh he's blocked, bridge fully burned there. 🤷‍♂️

[sly pebble]

Like he didn't also became rude? I'm not the type of person to argue with people on the internet. I just wanted to prove a point but nevermind.

[mental thunder]

gardrus is the knockback guy right

[sly pebble]

Don't worry, I have him blocked.

I'm trying to stepback as well soo i just blocked him

[mental thunder]

yes he is, so he knocks back and then the problem becomes that i think he will retarget because his original target was moved

[viscid dirge]

Yes and my reytah for some reason runs to him

[mental thunder]

so gotta be real careful if you go with my strat to kill the gardrus up top so your units stay out of any of his aoe and only tank runs up

[plush thicket]

Yea this is why I say blow up Grish asap. Single target high damage and get rid of him, rest becomes easier. Thia is gonna invis Gardrus anyways and screw up targeting back line.

The other option is lots of global damage.

[mental thunder]

i never seem to be able to be strong enough to just nuke down a tank at that level myself, just dont have the units

like if you have the big IB team i'm sure maybe you could

[plush thicket]

IB, Dauntless, Wild.

[mental thunder]

my dauntless is wet noodle lol

[plush thicket]

Dont equip pasta?

[mental thunder]

and wild is ok with felicity and errich but.... i dont feel liek it cuts it

[ornate steppe]

is it worth it building errich and alfie for vortex?

[mental thunder]

depends on if you have nothing else..... i cringe at alfie but if you have no other team....

[plush thicket]

No not together.

Alfie works with specific wilds well, Errich is not one of them.

[ornate steppe]

ohh just its ok if i build errich alone?

[mental thunder]

not for vortex

unless you just using him for defense down and you have another source of attack down like frurb

but then you are relying on poison damage for your score and..... without specific units that is going to be bad

[ornate steppe]

ohh ok ok

i dont know who to build i just dont wanna waste pots

i just wanna build someone who will excel on vortex

i wanna build fey team but i dont have enna yet lol

[mental thunder]

i think you had errich and nedda and alfie as your only wilds, maybe thea

[plush thicket]

You really want wilds to go with wilds.

Errich works well with say, Felicity and Tonalnan.

Alfie works well with say, Follie and Felicity.

Its a matter of how they interact and build off eachother or react with eachother.

[ornate steppe]

i dont have cleanser

[mental thunder]

you could try errich, thea, nedda

and then tank + support

[ornate steppe]

will eches work as cleanser on fey??

[mental thunder]

yeah but does little else

[ornate steppe]

oh not kinda worth then

[mental thunder]

yeah i wouldnt

[ornate steppe]

wait lemme send roster so it would be easier

[mental thunder]

nedda, thea, errich could be ok mediocre damage 15m on vortex III.... thea can hold defense down artifact, errich full dps. nedda dps. frurb tank, adolphus support

might get you 15-20m on vortex IV too depending on the weekly buff