then why did you reply to that message and asked chatgpt to analyze this situation
#why do trophies exists
opal canopy
Then my point stands in the middle between yours
outer berry
thats not the full context???
what you said just meant you admitted to losing
if you didnt mean that then reword it?
opal canopy
why do we even need a full context when in the end of the day it's just opinions between 2 groups?
outer berry
this also means you admitted to losing btw
outer berry
why do we even need a full context when in the end of the day it's just opinions...
this too
opal canopy
Why are you even still trying to fight for something that has gone peaceful?
outer berry
Why are you even still trying to fight for something that has gone peaceful?
not really fighting
but you yourself are admitting you were wrong
im just pointing that out
opal canopy
You clearly are trying to gain a random discord argument victory
outer berry
im not
opal canopy
just because it is a opinions
outer berry
but you yourself are admitting that i won tho
opal canopy
how?
opal canopy
I said that we should just go in the different ways with our own points instead of just arguing here?
it's a wastes of time
outer berry
if you didnt mean that you can clarify
outer berry
I said that we should just go in the different ways with our own points instead ...
yeah this means you want to say you were wrong
maybe you didnt mean that
if so you can clarify
opal canopy
I wasn't even a bit, I'm just saying that the opinions will just gonna spins around in circle endlessly eventually
All you need to do is just sned a reaction feedbacks
outer berry
I wasn't even a bit, I'm just saying that the opinions will just gonna spins aro...
why do you keep saying you were wrong then
youre weird
you kept saying
opal canopy
why do you keep saying you were wrong then
I didn't?
opal canopy
When?
outer berry
I wasn't even a bit, I'm just saying that the opinions will just gonna spins aro...
here
outer berry
All you need to do is just sned a reaction feedbacks
this too
outer berry
"Our" Opinions, Not mine
but your opinion is still among it
opal canopy
but your opinion is still among it
and so was yours
outer berry
so it means that you are saying you lost
outer berry
this doesn't make senses to be f air.
yeah thats why i was asking why you admitted to losing
opal canopy
It means we're both equally lost to time span that wasn't necessary to spended here at all.
outer berry
so you concede?
opal canopy
do you even knows the definition of 50/50 was?
night walrus
@opal canopy screw trophy
burn it
send it to hell
make it so you can only obtain it at 600 billion punches
opal canopy
i don't thinks that's how you end the argument
night walrus
yeah thats why i was asking why you admitted to losing
trophies are sooo annooying
a time/gp with trophy is hell
opal canopy
so you concede?
shout out to this guy's new description
night walrus
shout out to this guy's new description
whats more annoying is lel
oop
fogor to delete the sentence
lmfao
opal canopy
even Packgod might not being able to take this seriously even though hes actually unserious😭
night walrus
even Packgod might not being able to take this seriously even though hes actuall...
packgods kinda corney ngl
opal canopy
packgods kinda corney ngl
my man made pack god looks like an regular every tuesday person
This is even more🌽
night walrus
https://tenor.com/view/pack-god-packgod-pvz-plants-vs-zombies-imp-gif-5666658401...
whats theb est arguement u seen against this suggestion
opal canopy
whats theb est arguement u seen against this suggestion
there was one?
night walrus
there was one?
is there any?
opal canopy
No idea, This guy just carries the whole freaking series
night walrus
No idea, This guy just carries the whole freaking series
the num 1 trophy glazer
opal canopy
the num 1 trophy glazer
He was trying to says that he wasn't though😭
night walrus
He was trying to says that he wasn't though😭
he told u smt along hte lines of get a job right
opal canopy
he told u smt along hte lines of get a job right
oh yeah
i wasn't even specifically said that he need a job or something
i just said that people do has a job so they don't have all the time to plays the game
night walrus
its pretty ironic how ppl tell other ppl to get a job despite not having one themselves (most of the time this is the case when isee someone saying that)
earnest token
trophies exist bc they're so awesome n dey maek me happi when i punch a boss and win :3
night walrus
this wont affect shit
ok deepwoken noob
placid remnant
ok deepwoken noob
:(
opal canopy
trophies are apparently fair
to be honest if that's the only solution for trophy Just add the new feature in dos ability in early stages
Because i don't thinks dos will able to get trophies that easily anyways considered of how much newbies who intended to also get the rewards
past grotto
Why are people starting to think of ability wars as some serious combat game where everything MUST be equal with no exceptions
It's meant to be fun not perfect
I'd rather fight someone with a worse ability but they can practically fly than fight someone with the same punches, ability, and skills as me
If you want fair and balanced go play a battlegrounds game
glossy parrot
It's meant to be fun not perfect
but doesn't something being balanced make it more fun?
usually, trophies are more annoying for the opponent than they are fun for the user
opal canopy
but doesn't something being balanced make it more fun?
out of topic but that profile picture tricked me into thinking that i got internet connection issues for a seconds
earnest token
i genuinely dont see how trophy effects gameplay bad enough for it to be a legit problem
like seriously
its just something people compete for
all it offers is low gravity and most of the time the winner dies and loses it whats the problem 💔
night walrus
out of topic but that profile picture tricked me into thinking that i got intern...
did u enjoy chain
glossy parrot
out of topic but that profile picture tricked me into thinking that i got intern...
sorry
opal canopy
did u enjoy chain
can't see sh2t in the night but fire
night walrus
can't see sh2t in the night but fire
press f for flashlight
opal canopy
press f for flashlight
I should've tried that in the last hour ago
opal canopy
it's basically how it was like playing criminality without a single weapon
night walrus
it's basically how it was like playing criminality without a single weapon
xd
i wish u could have seen
the blood moon animation
night walrus
it's basically how it was like playing criminality without a single weapon
tips for surviving in chain
dont waste stamina (obvious)
crouch when in buildings (optional)
q to dodge chains attacks
night walrus
it's basically how it was like playing criminality without a single weapon
also
in survival
chain knows where u are
always
opal canopy
i just beat the heck out of it when it got stucked in the bear trap
hit 2 times and then runs away
night walrus
i just beat the heck out of it when it got stucked in the bear trap
wiith what...?
opal canopy
machettee
night walrus
the machete?
opal canopy
i got it for free
night walrus
i got it for free
i use the machete defensively
opal canopy
opal canopy
i just camp here untill the killer goes in
night walrus
since chain will have like
only 3 possible directions
to chase u
either straight where ur at
behind you
or sideways
opal canopy
i only piss for 2 minutes and i died
i'm done
good game but yeah, I'm weak against dark places
night walrus
good game but yeah, I'm weak against dark places
night walrus
Trophy’s are fun
all it takes is
one annoying person
with a trophy
to make ur time in game hell
fading mason
all it takes is
true...
but
getting a trophy is fun
trophy plus rabbit/quantum is fun
fading mason
fun for the user
quantum with trophy doesnt give any advantage in fighting
since all it does is just
make you go to space
night walrus
either remove trophy stats remove it entirely take the gravity off of it or replace it with smt else as the OP has said
night walrus
quantum with trophy doesnt give any advantage in fighting
it does
fading mason
how?
night walrus
u can do a jump combo with dmg orb and quantam
also easily used to run
to get cds back
night walrus
if most servers dont have a dos
does that justify dos being super op?
or what about idk
freeze
if most servers dont have freeze users does that justify freeze?
past grotto
It's still fun to play if one person is op
Imo it's more fun because then I can challenge myself to kill them
night walrus
Imo it's more fun because then I can challenge myself to kill them
the time main with a trophy spamming time stop every 2 secs i step foot into the server
amber imp
Sure,I hate trophies bc person that gets it always camps somewhere and only goes on surface to get quick kill and then comes back to their spot
I think its best for it to be either item to flex with or damage buff
opal canopy
I think its best for it to be either item to flex with or damage buff
That idea would probably be better if bosses gives different stat buffs that aren't stackable like orbs in one life for example
Cat/Dog bosses gives damage boosts
Tree bosses gives regeneration boosts
Mushroom tree gives speed boosts
night walrus
That idea would probably be better if bosses gives different stat buffs that are...
instead make bosses give a dos 500000000000000000000 souls
amber imp
That idea would probably be better if bosses gives different stat buffs that are...
Yeah
opal canopy
Yeah
since it'll also be unabusable as the boss spawn will be random and almostly impossible to be annoying intentionally
fading mason
instead make bosses give a dos 500000000000000000000 souls
trophy doesnt work on dos well
past grotto
@light steeple
light steeple
keen geode
In my opinion it adds a bit a flavor to the boss fight. and why should someone with 167000 punches ever fight the boss if there was no reward that would be worth the fight?
past grotto
Fr
opal canopy
In my opinion it adds a bit a flavor to the boss fight. and why should someone w...
Well you don't fights it? That's literally completely optional to do so
And it's not like my suggestion has a single one option either
night walrus
In my opinion it adds a bit a flavor to the boss fight. and why should someone w...
the sole existence of trophies is to fuck ppl over
or to say
"im the best at using deflect/time/gp/any other ability that easily helps with a boss fight"
fading mason
getting rid of trophys make bosses useless
past grotto
That's not regirock 🥀✌️
opal canopy
getting rid of trophys make bosses useless
bosses weren't really actually necessary needed anyways plus There can be a solution where it will get replace with something else
in the end of the day both of the bosses and the item are annoying no doubts
past grotto
in the end of the day both of the bosses and the item are annoying no doubts
That's js, your opinion
opal canopy
That's js, your opinion
Sometimes opinions does require some valid points and evidences to be considered as, Otherwise it will just be sarcasm instead of being one
night walrus
Sometimes opinions does require some valid points and evidences to be considered...
gp users trying to explain trophy with gp is fair
tired berry
It's not good it's js annoying
I just spited on 2 gp users with plasma
I bet my virginity they dont have more than 5000 punches
gaunt beacon
gp is so overhated
it deserves to be overhated
if i see players rageswapping to gp like damn you must be ass at the game 😭
lilac gate
W suggestion a God punch got a trophy and became pretty much impossible to kill
mint dock
If I see a godpunch going for a boss
Or time
(Or snow before it got fixed)
I try to stop at nothing to make sure they don’t get that trophy
Because I know I’m gonna get a migraine having to deal with it
opal canopy
Because I know I’m gonna get a migraine having to deal with it
from a normal gameplays turned into your responsibilities
mint dock
Well
That becomes my responsibly
The moment a dos or hivemind is there which is most severs
violet imp
Because I know I’m gonna get a migraine having to deal with it
You are not just helping yourself, you saved the server from having to deal with it too.
mint dock
It really doesn’t help that
Since the update
Dos is even more dominant than before cuz we’ve lost
Most good counters
The moment we lose alchemist for dos
We’re all fucked
tulip jacinth
yes
tired berry
O nah this will be getting the delete blood god treatment
tired berry
I try to stop at nothing to make sure they don’t get that trophy
The bad thing is that teamers exist🥀
So if there are actual teamers it will be harder
Like If there are 2 players farming souls with dos you'll have to constantly target them until they leave wich is not very fun to do and if u don't target them it will be not even fun but annoying to deal with a 15 dos teamers
Imma be honest I was rooting for the bg overhaul but now there is almost no counters to dos
Gp is too easy to ignore with the speed boost and time too if u put attention to the sound
Alchemist is the only good counter since u have the strenght of a 35 souls dos and the speed of a 15 souls dos
tired berry
Gp is too easy to ignore with the speed boost and time too if u put attention to...
Plus railgun needs to be charged and if y die u restart and the dos can easily take cover if the dos isn't fast enough
So in conclusion trophies are an instant upgrade to all abilities in the game and more to the ones that make u overpowered the more kills or exp u have since targetting someone with a trophy makes everything harder
opal canopy
So in conclusion trophies are an instant upgrade to all abilities in the game an...
that's, Completely a false assumption
opal canopy
Imma be honest I was rooting for the bg overhaul but now there is almost no coun...
There's a lot of ways to literally just oberilate them, What you need is strategy and precision like Alchemist or magnet And if teaming were a force option then it means the item itself grants the user to be twice times stronger? How is that balance exactly?
The reason why you died as a railgun is because you just can't take a single cover to NOT let a dos user noticed you, That's literally the simplest thing you could think of which, I'm surprised a common sense kind of strategy was Not found by any of your ideas,
or maybe just you are incapability of thinking to create any strategies because probably cavemens like those people doesn't even thinks twice on what they're doing.
And every abilities can use the trophy to double up their ability to be more unkillable, Not just dos
So in conclusion your points are just a load of nonsenses
tired berry
There's a lot of ways to literally just oberilate them, What you need is strateg...
U need a friend to farm energy for the railgun wich will reduce the manpower to kill the dos but that's irrellevant if u make the shot and its not even guaranted that u will make the shot, making the dos more paranoid of ur presence and the main point of my argument is that a dos with a 🏆 is almost impossible to kill with most of its normal counters. So if there is a railgun and u have trophy just jump to an elevated area and using the mushroom and the trophy will get u to the lobby's roof
opal canopy
U need a friend to farm energy for the railgun wich will reduce the manpower to ...
exactly why trophies should been removed.
tired berry
exactly why trophies should been removed.
So that's my point we should remove them
tired berry
exactly why trophies should been removed.
BTW that was a polite way to call me dumb😭
tired berry
or maybe just you are incapability of thinking to create any strategies because ...
This🥲
opal canopy
BTW that was a polite way to call me dumb😭
it became my habit to call people "idiot" on roblox so that i don't get banned
tired berry
I feel politely molested🧐
tired berry
Well we agree that trophies should be removed
But to make bosses worth killing they should add either:
More punches like 50 more punches
Or a permanent advantage like a knockback speed or regeneration buff(my opinion)
tired berry
But a lil better than the normal orbs
opal canopy
But a lil better than the normal orbs
lil better than normal orbs are fine, Sometimes when you actually tried to kill the dos it was a bit difficult and riskier to just get a bit of damages after losing a lot of health while being valuable to any attacks
it's just not worth a risks unless you're using deflect or defensive abilities
night walrus
I'm the first comment of this new month yayayayayayay
liar
mortal lodge
deflect should be disabled during bossfights
tired berry
deflect should be disabled during bossfights
Yes they did
If u have deflect ability u can't damage the boss
So prob the best way of grinding bosses is using barrier
wind axle
this suggestion is so ass
why kill a boss when you have a good amount of punches if you get no reward
you barely get any punches like 100-200
the trophy is the reward people care about
violet imp
why kill a boss when you have a good amount of punches if you get no reward
Good question
wind axle
Good question
it’s true because ppl only care about the trophy’s
why would ppl with 150k+ fight the bosses if no trophy
hollow garden
Dos users when they get a trophy (the entire server is fucked)
violet imp
Dos users when they get a trophy (the entire server is fucked)
When the dos gets souls, the trophy's effect gets weaker until it becomes completely useless.
hollow garden
When the dos gets souls, the trophy's effect gets weaker until it becomes comple...
Still is a buff
Alchemist is another problem too
violet imp
Still is a buff
Doesn't disprove my point though.
hollow garden
Alchemist is another problem too
I meant to say hivemind
violet imp
I meant to say hivemind
Hivemind also losses trophy's effect too upon gaining speed.
hollow garden
Hivemind also losses trophy's effect too upon gaining speed.
I dont think so
Ive seen a rebirth max phase hivemind using it just fine
violet imp
Ive seen a rebirth max phase hivemind using it just fine
Oh, I thought trophy's effect gets weaker the faster a player is.
wind axle
Oh, I thought trophy's effect gets weaker the faster a player is.
it does
opal canopy
the trophy is the reward people care about
here's the thing, what the fuck is the actual purpose of trophy other than just using it to runs away from any targetters to the lobby or large tree and mountains
Like what the fuck does it even serves
wind axle
safety
opal canopy
pvp disturbing
wind axle
you could be getting teamed or third partied on
just easily go up a high area they can’t reach
also why do you want it to be removed
you can counter them easily
opal canopy
Okay first, How would you even get yourself in the situation you're getting jumped in the first place
maybe you're the one who disturbs their fights first
wind axle
Okay first, How would you even get yourself in the situation you're getting jump...
this game is filled to the brim with teamers bud
opal canopy
teammers can't be prevent, And so was trophies overpowered buff
wind axle
look im just gonna say it now
opal canopy
people abusing it to their advantage in any fights
opal canopy
teaming problems isn't something you can fixes
wind axle
I know
But I’m saying the trophy is useful
it can avoid lots of attacks like railgun and stuff
opal canopy
trophies was there to just be a temporary reduces of that problem, And YET it also causes more problems in some more ways
wind axle
its pretty useful as dos
opal canopy
So how exactly why more problems a good shit
wind axle
So how exactly why more problems a good shit
what are these problems that trophies create
please let me hear your delusional shit
opal canopy
its pretty useful as dos
Dos aren't serving any good purposes either
opal canopy
it's just a good way to grinds that people thinks it's fun
wind axle
it's just a good way to grinds that people thinks it's fun
it is fun tho
opal canopy
They aren't
here's the thing, I don't wanted it to become my responsibilties instead of actually just have an option to let it go
Cause it's gonna kill me eventually if people does not wanted to stops it
wind axle
you still haven’t said why trophy’s create problems
wind axle
Cause it's gonna kill me eventually if people does not wanted to stops it
???
tf are you saying
you speaking nonsense
can’t understand what you’re saying
opal canopy
you still haven’t said why trophy’s create problems
Trophies made dos to be harder to kill which i don't sees why it's a solution to anything cause that ability itself was a mass problem of the game
wind axle
Trophies made dos to be harder to kill which i don't sees why it's a solution to...
so you’re mad you get killed by a dos
with a trophy
💔
God forbid I can’t use railgun anymore and need to be skilful oh no
opal canopy
can’t understand what you’re saying
I said killing dos aren't supposedly to be anybody
responsibilities
wind axle
railgun is pretty much made to kill dos
nothing more nothing less
dos has a billion counters it doesn’t need more
opal canopy
i'm not mad that i can kill dos or not People aren't happy to wastes their time on dos
wind axle
people won’t be happy that bosses become useless now
opal canopy
How so?
opal canopy
people in questions are just a bunches of gatekeeper
wind axle
nobody cares about 100 punches
wind axle
people in questions are just a bunches of gatekeeper
so everyone is a gatekeeper by your logic
why do you think everyone fights the bosses when they already have 150+
opal canopy
I don't see how trophy being the primary reward is a best solution of the reward from bosses
wind axle
?
opal canopy
There's A LOT of many ways you could have rewards players from killing bosses
wind axle
im saying people care about the trophy’s
opal canopy
other than this
opal canopy
im saying people care about the trophy’s
Well clearly it causes more problems than it was suppose to be
wind axle
a temporary buff?
opal canopy
what’s the reward then
Permanent buff
wind axle
Permanent buff
explain then
opal canopy
So, A stronger orbs
that's literally how you can rewards a person from killing bosses
they gains more advantage in pvp, NOT Mobilities to escapes to the place some people couldn't even access
opal canopy
Because MAYBE you couldn't even fights a single person
wind axle
me?
opal canopy
it’s a stronger and better one
What if i said 30% to you
wind axle
wanna fight rn
wind axle
ok
opal canopy
what's your region zone
opal canopy
i asked
wind axle
join
opal canopy
i asked what's your region zone
opal canopy
pings matter
gaunt beacon
these people fr still crying and sobbing about a fucking trophy
it aint that hard to kill someone gng when they have it
protip
BOUNTY or ANY OTHER RANGED ABILITYS
oh yeah dos does not have a good of a buff since each phase for somereason makes the trophy slowly not work due to the aura weight
opal canopy
BOUNTY or ANY OTHER RANGED ABILITYS
escapes to the top of the lobby?
gaunt beacon
escapes to the top of the lobby?
dos cant even get up there after a few phases due to the damn weight
so its fine
opal canopy
No no no, I'm not talking about just dos I included those people who use it with other abilities aswell for example like you mentioned bounty hunter
it's the problem you never needed in the game at the first place anyways
so why does it have to existed?
Why was this problem necessary for the game fighting environments
topaz rose
escapes to the top of the lobby?
oh god i had a defender baller mastery camp up on spawn
HE WAS SO ANNOYING
opal canopy
oh god i had a defender baller mastery camp up on spawn
Mass problems right?
yeah then why tf did people thinks the trophies are logically necessary when it doesn't solves any problems at all
topaz rose
Mass problems right?
i feel like if they did what they did to trophies for DOS but for the other streaks it would be alright
maybe it wouldn't work for ranged abilities AT all?
opal canopy
maybe it wouldn't work for ranged abilities AT all?
just move the lobby away further✌️
hollow garden
This is probably one of the only polls where the ratio is nearly 50 50
opal canopy
This is probably one of the only polls where the ratio is nearly 50 50
ability wars civil war
hollow garden
Lmao
strong night
tired berry
Even the worst of the worst is nearly unkillable with the trophy and there is not even the worst of the worst abilities😭
brisk sail
You guys do know that the “Trophy” is supposed to awards you for putting in the most work into killing one of the bosses. Plus the trophy already got nerfed, what else do you want from the devs?
opal canopy
You guys do know that the “Trophy” is supposed to awards you for putting in the ...
the nerf was, Almost nothing compares to other abilities other than dos at mostly, Literally anybody can still take the huge advantage of flying and going up to the lobby
if the awards for killing the boss causes the problem, Then it SHOULDN'T have one or replacing with another
brisk sail
Simple use engineer?
so many counters to EVERYTHING
But yet you find room to complain
opal canopy
Simple use engineer?
Exactly, not everybody has it and the con of killing any abilities users with it merely due to how much prepare it requires
and i don't see how any users would die to engineer either.
brisk sail
Then grind for stuff like engineer, kinda like how the player fought the boss and won and was rewarded
I do like the concept of it being nerfed more but completely wanting it removed is outrageous
Kinda like that magnet kid
opal canopy
200 souls dos comparing to a single boss kill is a literal fucking joke
brisk sail
why do you people curse so much?
I’m formally talking to you
Haven’t said anything mean
opal canopy
well clearly your point had nothing logically fair and right for most people
So that's why it deserves it
opal canopy
what if they go up to the lobby?
brisk sail
Grab and throw, nothing to difficult
opal canopy
What are you gonna do?
brisk sail
simple, they aren’t bothering you no more. At that point you’re just targeting.
brisk sail
Then they won’t go up there because they want to kill u.
opal canopy
since you tried to kill them, they'll bother you
opal canopy
Uh do you have any idea how terrible this community was?
brisk sail
have you tried using gravity mastery?
opal canopy
Literally more than 50% did that
steel warren
How about, reworking it?
opal canopy
How about, reworking it?
replacing the reward with something else
brisk sail
No offence but that’s just a skill issue.
steel warren
replacing the reward with something else
Exactly
Or maybe just
Idk, make it have a gimmick
opal canopy
trophies are just wastes of time to deal with
steel warren
steel warren
trophies are just wastes of time to deal with
Would be nice if we could vote to spawn the boss
brisk sail
No
steel warren
Or like, keep bosses in the game but have then spawn in through different means like for example
brisk sail
Wdym 20 mins
opal canopy
Would be nice if we could vote to spawn the boss
To be honest, in sudden moments people would just press the nearest button in their screen
brisk sail
Mushroom king spawns when it is jumped on too much
opal canopy
when pop up shows up
steel warren
Mushroom king spawns when it is jumped on too much
Wait it does? I actually never knew that
brisk sail
Yeah after it’s jumped on a bit it will spawn like 10-15 minutes later
opal canopy
there isn't any reasons why trophies are necessary
brisk sail
Or that’s how it’s used to be
opal canopy
Yeah after it’s jumped on a bit it will spawn like 10-15 minutes later
What differences does it made, i need to wait 10-15 minutes just to gain the same advantage?
brisk sail
Bro as I said “ it’s supposed to award the user”
opal canopy
well it causes more problems than actually solving one
That's why there should be a replacement award
or
brisk sail
Bro out of the one person who got the trophy you can’t kill them?
opal canopy
just entirely move the lobby away
brisk sail
No
brisk sail
Mushroom jumper height needs to be nerfed
opal canopy
there isn't literally a single logic of why you need trophies
nah nah nah
don't changes topic now
we're on trophies
not bosses
brisk sail
Wait, what are you on about
That kid started asking about bosses, and you say “don’t change topic now”
opal canopy
The unfairness of trophies advantage that given to the players
Not "bosses"
i didn't bring up bosses, you did first
brisk sail
i didn't bring up bosses, you did first
That’s not who I was talking about but ok
opal canopy
And how was your logic reasonable and fair to most people?
explain
i don't need an agreement from you
brisk sail
Would be nice if we could vote to spawn the boss
Cough cough
opal canopy
i need the actual valid logic
opal canopy
Cough cough
voting is like, being mostly ignored
steel warren
Yeah
opal canopy
especially in pop ups
opal canopy
and that doesn't fixs the problem of trophies advantages though
brisk sail
“logic,” It’s not hard to kill trophy users, and secondly there is many things to prevent it from happening
steel warren
I HAVE A NEW SUGGESTION
opal canopy
why doesn't lobby moving away further?
steel warren
Uhhh
opal canopy
“logic,” It’s not hard to kill trophy users, and secondly there is many things t...
Well clearly 120 likes said other wise
steel warren
They just uhhh
brisk sail
It’s nice to be able to see the map from spawn
opal canopy
and that's more than 50% of people.
brisk sail
Crazy
opal canopy
Don’t want to move the lobby
engineer gatekeeping ig
steel warren
It’s nice to be able to see the map from spawn
Yeah but like, couldn’t they just add in like something to allow you to see it
steel warren
engineer gatekeeping ig
Yessssss
brisk sail
plus you can just you know Nerf the jump height of the mushroom with trophy
opal canopy
Yeah but like, couldn’t they just add in like something to allow you to see it
why couldn't they make people go with through lobby instead of standing on it
opal canopy
plus you can just you know Nerf the jump height of the mushroom with trophy
that merely does anything considered most of the abilities doesn't make you passively faster anyways
steel warren
It just wouldn’t work out well
brisk sail
You know I just thought of an idea. Damage and speed buff while holding
opal canopy
That's my fucking idea and another person idea
steel warren
Better be a speed buff of 2 walkspeed
opal canopy
literally i'm trying to convinced you those another ideas
brisk sail
Or maybe an ability could be added that needs trophy to craft
brisk sail
Kinda like puppet or mystic
steel warren
King
Nah
That’s just midas, but remove the gold
Like if it was the bame
Name*
brisk sail
Alright I’m done arguing, bye
steel warren
But like
steel warren
juggernaut
Oh yeah, that too
brisk sail
Actually I’m finna go complain to devs about army
steel warren
What if, we keep the bosses, right?
But we make them a gauntlet
That you access, and they have less health
And it awards you a badge/ability
That way we can get both juggernaut and Champion
opal canopy
to be honest, that ability should probably costs punches aswell, it sounded easy
steel warren
What? Champion?
brisk sail
I hope you do know that would make the point in killing the bosses is too get rewarded, and getting the trophy to get a badge only makes it a one time satisfaction
steel warren
Like, a gauntlet of killing all the bosses
Yeah I would say a punch requirement would be needed
brisk sail
And your gonna say I’m off topic
steel warren
Especially if the health is nerfed/lowered by like 25% or 50%
steel warren
I hope you do know that would make the point in killing the bosses is too get re...
I lowkey forgot you were arguing about something
opal canopy
I hope you do know that would make the point in killing the bosses is too get re...
for your opponents it's a long term reminder that dealing with them is a piece wastes total of hell
it wasn't off topic
brisk sail
Ok
opal canopy
you weren't just making it fair for everybody
steel warren
Ok
opal canopy
what is champion
steel warren
No it’s just like a random thing I thought of
Like
A name
For an ability
That requires beating all those bosses as a gauntlet
opal canopy
sounded pretty fair but still, i thinks it still do need to costs punches
considered it had the easier ways to kill bosses
steel warren
But i mean like, completely separate. Like, there’s a way to access the gauntlet and then go through them all. Maybe something to do with using a certain ability and going to a certain location?
Like how using mushroom and going into the backrooms takes you to the mushroom cave
flint oar
simple solution, git gud
gaunt beacon
Magnet perfectly defects its use
snowball can easily kill a trophy user btw 😭
opal canopy
I met a return user with 11k punches on trophy item
i gotta say it was worst than even fighting a leaderboard players
I don't see how y'all don't finds this a problem except being one of the gatekeepers
gaunt beacon
i gotta say it was worst than even fighting a leaderboard players
😭 NO NOT THESE
I HATE RETURN MAINS
ripe sandal
its a reward.
opal canopy
its a reward.
Mind you explain what's the point of having a specifically unkillable advantage when it literally causing more problems instead of rewarding the players with something else?
ripe sandal
your not unkillable
opal canopy
Reward for being a "problem"
opal canopy
your not unkillable
More than 50% of the time players says otherwise
ripe sandal
skill issue
opal canopy
but thats just return
Then we don't need return.
ripe sandal
nah just nerf return
opal canopy
move the lobby away further
ripe sandal
why is the lobby a issue
opal canopy
they're one of the only places that normal people couldn't have access to
ripe sandal
gravity?
opal canopy
Even if they can, There aren't still any specifc way of counterpart to kill them
ripe sandal
engineer
ripe sandal
just use the mushroom
opal canopy
Engineer can't guarantee the hit, either way they couldn't reaches the user anyways, Even with planes
opal canopy
just use the mushroom
Nonsenses, They can't get up there
opal canopy
So? After that what are you going to do? Trying to chases them with that jump powers?
I didn't even included of how any of their abilities combined
Plus, Doing it with mushroom would required a teammate to do it intentionally
which means, It can be a problem to not just a single person at the time
If they can just camp up there and attacks below
ripe sandal
this entire suggestion is just a skill issue
opal canopy
Your points are the skill issue
Yeah skill issue my ass, wouldn't you try to catch that one cosmos and bounty hunter user who keep shoting at you from above?
Go ahead and try
ripe sandal
isnt a issue because i use firework
ripe sandal
it has like 10 trillion knockbac
opal canopy
Try again, Firework is limited
if the user had the same ability, they also can just came back like you do
What excuses do you want to pulls out so you could defend your own item?
ripe sandal
oh you mean seasonal
opal canopy
Depends on how you look at it, But someone wouldn't still waiting for a year just to grant the effort the take out trophy holders
Or at best, Barely even has a chances
Anymore excuses to bring up? MrGatekeeper
gaunt beacon
I like the trophy for one thing
FUNNY JESTER FLING YEETIS
hollow garden
I like the trophy for one thing
FUNNY JESTER FLING YEETIS
You can jester fling without it
median hound
Trophies are such a non issue just leave if they’re that much of a problem
They let you jump higher that’s a great reward for killing a boss bro
wheat axle
so you hate it when people use ranged weapons on trophy mains
No, I hate having to spam ranged weapons just for a chance at an unreliable chance at killing a "trophy main"
wheat axle
Trophies are such a non issue just leave if they’re that much of a problem
Mhmmmmmm.... They seriously interrupt the gameplay flow of the game in a way that seriously is not that fun
gaunt beacon
womp womp
wheat axle
Meh meh meh meh meh.
steel warren
I agree with Mage, it’s very annoying if used with the right ability
Like he said, it’d seriously interrupt the gameplay. Also, do you know what kind of combo’s you could be put in? If you don’t look up since they’ll most likely jump with the trophy to hide what they are doing/going to do, you’ll be put in a basically lethal combo which can be very annoying
scenic aspen
also an unnerfed trophy is literally a full counter against ufo mastery
(not to mention mastery alchemists power pots)
[you only need like 2-3 potent ones to absolutely erase someone from the face of the earth in the mastery ufo]
median hound
Mhmmmmmm.... They seriously interrupt the gameplay flow of the game in a way tha...
Wild coming from a mage user
signal nacelle
Trophies need a rework
wheat axle
Wild coming from a mage user
mage is no where nearly as bad
if trophies are a "non issue"
then mage's balancing is a good thing.
olive locust
Trophies is op because of jump boost
scenic aspen
then mage's balancing is a good thing.
mage is balanced imo
like to the point id say its at the pinnacle of being a balanced and good ability
wheat axle
mage is balanced imo
So if Trophies and Mages current powert are good, then Midas's balancing is perfect.
opal canopy
i'm finally beginning to win this war
sour current
trophies are both a curse and a blessing bigger jump but they have much more knock back
gaunt beacon
trophies are both a curse and a blessing bigger jump but they have much more kno...
yeah
scenic aspen
trophies are both a curse and a blessing bigger jump but they have much more kno...
just unequip it when you get punched
it aint that hard
median hound
mage is no where nearly as bad
mage is unfun as hell tho
wheat axle
mage is unfun as hell tho
Trophies are less fun.
median hound
Trophies are less fun.
trophies let you jump higher while mage does massive debuffs and can heal to full almost instantly
wheat axle
trophies let you jump higher while mage does massive debuffs and can heal to ful...
Huh
median hound
unfun as hell to fight a mage in any setting
wheat axle
Debuffs?
median hound
do you not use mage???
wheat axle
unfun as hell to fight a mage in any setting
It's so much less fun fighting trophy users
median hound
its main three moves are healing ice and fire
wheat axle
do you not use mage???
The Q?
median hound
ice and fire are both debuffs lol
wheat axle
The fire functions as like 5 bonus damage
median hound
ice slows you fire slowly kills you those are debuffs lmao
wheat axle
The ice is not a problem if ur skilled
median hound
yeah its just annoying
wheat axle
ice slows you fire slowly kills you those are debuffs lmao
The fire is like the least annoying debuff there is
median hound
i was talking about the ice mainly
all im saying is that you cant be calling people annoying while using mage
wheat axle
The Ice is NOT that bad
wheat axle
all im saying is that you cant be calling people annoying while using mage
Yes I can
And I will.
Mage looks like a charity worker when compared to trophies
steel warren
Mage is WAYYYY more tolerable than trophy
I would say im pretty skilled and I could not kill a magnet user with trophy after like 20 tries until someone else got them
signal nacelle
Trophies should turn you into a mini version of the boss trust
signal nacelle
way to make it worse
Atleat it does not give low gravity
inner parrot
i feel like trophys should be like capture the flag like you get a certain amount of punches every 30 seconds or a minute your alive and drops when you die until it has been dropped 10 times then it will dissapear and the trophy only exists for 15 minutes and if a certain ability that allows you to be immortal or js hide forever then you cannot pick up the trophy untill you change abilitys and still you will only gain punches while on main island and not anywhere else
steel warren
i feel like trophys should be like capture the flag like you get a certain amoun...
…
That’s too broken😭
You mean to tell me just for using deflect I PASSIVELY gain punches ALONGSIDE the punches I get from punching others?!?!?!
inner parrot
You mean to tell me just for using deflect I PASSIVELY gain punches ALONGSIDE th...
rah i wouldve thought ppl would thing that stuff like portal counted as deflect barrier and quantum
steel warren
rah i wouldve thought ppl would thing that stuff like portal counted as deflect ...
Huh?
scenic aspen
way to make it worse
actually
thats not that bad of an idea
because the whole servers gonna be after the dude
and if we like just remove the low gravity part
it wont be that bad
opal canopy
and if we like just remove the low gravity part
Without the lower gravity effects, the holder will merely get around 50% of that height jumps passively like Trees, and mountain
and the best part was that it doens't has any access to the lobby
i should say that's fair
wheat axle
because the whole servers gonna be after the dude
Two fucking bosses.
One of them can target whoever the fuck they want and play like a fucking lobotomite
I don't want to fight constant boss rushes
And, it'd just be a weird and goofy mechanic all around
Like every.. ability can become a boss.
opal canopy
Speaking about passing items and teaming.
wheat axle
Oh yeah that too
steel warren
Speaking about passing items and teaming.
Cough cough alch mas cough cough
brisk sail
Speaking about passing items and teaming.
Kill them, not that difficult
steel warren
Kill them, not that difficult
Can be difficult if they’re good or if they’re so bad they just run
steel warren
Gp is so buns, so many counters to that as well
Yeah it has counter’s but most of the time people with trophies are using the most annoying abilities for example deflect, return(i’ve used return before and had trophies and once got a bounty of i think 1k punches), cards, etc
opal canopy
Cough cough alch mas cough cough
yeah never happening, I'm staying on top of the lobby.
steel warren
yeah never happening, I'm staying on top of the lobby.
Cough cough gravity cough cough
Engineer
Cough cough literally every other ability that can reach the lobby cough cough
opal canopy
Above average healing factor abilities
Speed abilities
Ranged abilities
And by any means, You cannot having enough damages considered the person has far more passive mobility than you can ever reaches them with gravity damage chip
Engineer was always an understatement and i don't see how they'd actually being able to kill some of the trophy holders cause most of them are aoe based attacks which directly counter their planes
All of your points are really just isn't solving any problems
opal canopy
Cough cough gravity cough cough
Please, Do better than just do a copypasta message that was already proven wrong
Let me ask you one thing
What was the purpose of trophies?
steel warren
Please, Do better than just do a copypasta message that was already proven wrong
It wasn’t necessarily proven wrong dude, im just giving you abilities that could still reach there
opal canopy
Well clearly there isn't any reasons why to give out the in-game solutions that barely works Rather than just actually fixing the problem itself
What's the problem with removing the unnecessary things that causes problems to the game?
No one needed trophy, None of people does
cyan birch
Then what would be the reward for bosses
cyan birch
Seems good
opal canopy
What a simple person
cyan birch
Lol
topaz rose
500 punches?
that gives people with > like 250k no reason to fight bosses other than to get the annoying ass boss out of the map
scenic aspen
that gives people with > like 250k no reason to fight bosses other than to get t...
to be fair at 250k you dont even need anything
wraith creek
olive swallow
tell that to the return camping the top of the lobby
gaunt beacon
trophies got nerfed this suggestion is useless now
have a good day
and how it was nerfed you dont have your full jumppower
also its so useless when using it with dos now
cause of the auras weight adding on
topaz rose
tell that to the return camping the top of the lobby
or the dos camping on top of the lobby
which you can only get to with alch (that can only use 4 pots) or a mech
opal canopy
how much trophy was nerfed chat? i need a footage
scenic aspen
how much trophy was nerfed chat? i need a footage
to a point it really doesnt even make difference
from before the nerf
opal canopy
to a point it really doesnt even make difference
How small the difference were we talking
scenic aspen
How small the difference were we talking
people can still get to most structures you normally cant
though its atleast way better than before
because you cant fly to the sun now
opal canopy
because you cant fly to the sun now
Could it still access to lobby?
opal canopy
unless with an ability
there's a half 50% of me that thinks the nerf was enough But the another half says otherwise
granite spindle
Nah dont remove, chasing down cocky trophy users is one of the few real fun moments this game offer
Not saying the game isnt fun, but goddamn is the thrill of the hunt good
scenic aspen
Not saying the game isnt fun, but goddamn is the thrill of the hunt good
well the "thrill" of the hunt is the person being nearly unkillable with certain abilities i suppose
granite spindle
well the "thrill" of the hunt is the person being nearly unkillable with certain...
I mean yea, thats the fun part
Its like hunting a dos
scenic aspen
Its like hunting a dos
hunting a dos isnt fun
its just
"take a gamble whether they fall for the trick or they have 2 braincells"
opal canopy
its just
A responsibility that you were forced to take care of before it becoming your problem
Was that really something people finds the fun parts of the game? If so then personally, Their tastes suck
granite spindle
hunting a dos isnt fun
Personally I find it very fun
Ig its more about your playstyle
scenic aspen
Personally I find it very fun
so you like being forced to deal with someone because they got a few kills
granite spindle
so you like being forced to deal with someone because they got a few kills
Oh no I like to wait till they're strong
scenic aspen
a dos is literally a serverwide bothering
everyone gets bothered by it
except you apparently
granite spindle
Well so are boss, but I dont see anyone complaining about boss
Its good that they're are strong ability honestly because without those the game would basically have no event
A good dos is nothing more than a playermade event
scenic aspen
Well so are boss, but I dont see anyone complaining about boss
everyone complains about boss
its just that no one really says it anymore
granite spindle
Sound like an excuse
scenic aspen
because of how frequently its complained about or how frequent it happens
scenic aspen
A good dos is nothing more than a playermade event
the game doesnt need an event
granite spindle
Nah ive been on this discord for like 3 years and there never was a time where peoples were actually complaining about boss
scenic aspen
and theres the boss
scenic aspen
Nah ive been on this discord for like 3 years and there never was a time where p...
proof
worthy mist
scenic aspen
Im sure youve got a better proof
yes
lemme pull out the "remove boss" suggestion
or whatever
and then this suggestion as a whole
is because of bosses existence
granite spindle
You pulled a suggestion with 1 like
1
The own OP
Matter of fact he didnt even like it
Is that really it lol?
granite spindle
Not really
Complaining the reward for doing something is too strong isnt the same as complaining about the source of said reward at all
worthy mist
I would agree with pseudo
worthy mist
I for one think trophies are mildly annoying at the very most but they have been neutered so much they're not a huge deal unless a god punch gets ahold of it
granite spindle
Can you find one single suggestion that is actually somewhat popular pls
2 in a row have had zero like
worthy mist
and even then as pseudo said there's like
several abilities that can shut them down
scenic aspen
and even then as pseudo said there's like
several abilities that can shut them d...
depends on the trophy holder
worthy mist
I did say that
granite spindle
Except maybe god punch, no ability is really that much crazier with trophy
scenic aspen
Can you find one single suggestion that is actually somewhat popular pls
those suggestions arent popular because actually quality suggestions overshadow them
worthy mist
if they were to remove trophies I would like them to make it into an ability, but make it undroppable so you can't spawn infinite trophies by resetting
scenic aspen
Except maybe god punch, no ability is really that much crazier with trophy
return
worthy mist
?
granite spindle
those suggestions arent popular because actually quality suggestions overshadow ...
Even badly made suggestion get popular if people agree
scenic aspen
if they were to remove trophies I would like them to make it into an ability, bu...
thats just cheese without the speed
worthy mist
thats just cheese without the speed
it's got lower gravity
it could be a secret ability
scenic aspen
it's got lower gravity
it could be a secret ability
yes but like
why not just use cheese?
but yeah for the funnies
worthy mist
because I don't want carpel tunnel
scenic aspen
maybe
granite spindle
Cause cheese eh
worthy mist
and using an auto clicker feels dirty
scenic aspen
That cannot be a serious question dawg
wdym bro
even my mouse has a BUILT IN outoclicker
granite spindle
Doesnt mean you should use it
worthy mist
autoclickers just remove what little skill the game already requires
granite spindle
Its true
worthy mist
and even then constantly punching still has its downsides anyways
scenic aspen
using an outoclicker will make your life harder
granite spindle
No its just weird
scenic aspen
if you face against people that know what they are doing
scenic aspen
No its just weird
how is it weird by any means necessary
granite spindle
how is it weird by any means necessary
If you really are asking why you are too far gone to understand any answers I could give you
scenic aspen
same guy who thinks hunting a dos is fun
(its just a huge bother to deal with rather than an actual challenge and the fact youre forced to deal with it just makes it annoying)
worthy mist
I mean it can be fun
scenic aspen
can agree on that
it CAN be fun
(especially under 15 souls)
but like at 25 or so
its just
either instakill the dude or chip his hp
both are not fun
scenic aspen
do you dos hunt every once 10 years
stable bramble
Ok now who the hell keeps shadow bumping this. Let this "suggestion" die once and for all
opal canopy
Ok now who the hell keeps shadow bumping this. Let this "suggestion" die once an...
bump
earnest estuary
trophies so u can flex to absloutly no one
onyx scroll
Tbf, only one player gets it and every ability can be countered, even god punch with the trophy east to counter
And the gravity thing makes any strong kb ability like railgun deadly
And the trophy is what makes people fight the boss in the first place, not to mention the satisfaction you get when you kill someone with the trophy
olive swallow
Tbf, only one player gets it and every ability can be countered, even god punch ...
i hope a return user with a trophy targets you...
onyx scroll
i hope a return user with a trophy targets you...
Well, return can do nothing so I'll just beat the hell out of them
olive swallow
Well, return can do nothing so I'll just beat the hell out of them
they can put their respawn on top of the lobby
opal canopy
Tbf, only one player gets it and every ability can be countered, even god punch ...
there are so many things i disagrees about this
opal canopy
tell me what so special about trophies as "content" to the game other than granting any users mobility advantages that barely some abilities wishes to have?
we already got an update recently and christmas is coming
opal canopy
this one escaped from reels
wheat axle
bump
twilit sequoia
i hate trophy dos users kill trophy
opal canopy
looked like someone changed his mind, from 157, 127 to 158, 126
cursive light
HEAR ME OUT! Different bosses give different trophies giving different powers
opal canopy
HEAR ME OUT! Different bosses give different trophies giving different powers
kinda similar to what i have pointed out at one point of some arguments
anyways
because bread tastes better than key
cursive light
Chavez
stiff trench
id rather keep the gravity and remove the jump power
more gravity makes it too OP
but it'd be still fun with gravity and counterable
oak goblet
I love trophies just for dos tho
frosty lotus
I can’t read because I have to scroll bruh why is there 2800 message ???
frosty lotus
https://tenor.com/view/civil-war-avengers-captain-america-iron-man-ant-man-gif-5...
Uh ok?
wanton token
I kinda agree. Trophy in the hands of a good ability makes it extremely op. Especially on ability with speed boosts or high power
But then again
While holding it and getting hit you do get launched quite far
bitter sapphire
I mean yea.. A TIME THAT CAN JUMP HIGHER? Abilities that can go higher can avoid time stop kill but if he jumps higher. Or another example, rabbit jups hell lot big when had trophy or stardust, bigger jump. Also with trophy you can dodge railguns, projectiles, and much more.
Like every ability gets a huge buff just from a yellow throphy
bitter sapphire
Still i think trophies should still be in game
median hound
I mean yea.. A TIME THAT CAN JUMP HIGHER? Abilities that can go higher can avoid...
This thing a bot with some very funny ideas lmao
Ignore
scenic fog
sage wyvern
I like how everyone is split on this suggestion lol
mellow schooner
I like how everyone is split on this suggestion lol
some people are anti-balancing while some are pro-balancing
luckily the pro-balancers are winning
opal canopy
some people are anti-balancing while some are pro-balancing
The fact that anti-balance people numbers are still comparable to the right thing really shows how unstable this community really is
olive swallow
The fact that anti-balance people numbers are still comparable to the right thin...
did you know there are people who like using god punch? horrifying stuff
opal canopy
did you know there are people who like using god punch? horrifying stuff
more like disgusting
personally tho
steel warren
Just about everyone that disliked this is the latter half of the community that likes playing god punch, think’s rabbit is balanced & skilled, thinks plasma and midas are bad, and complain about the operator badge
Besides a few outliers of course
molten crane
Just about everyone that disliked this is the latter half of the community that ...
Trophies are fun rewards that you get from killing the boss I think they should have some type of advantage atleast
bitter sapphire
Just about everyone that disliked this is the latter half of the community that ...
Who dislikes thinks rabbit is skill or wha?
Cuz i dont agree, i just want some kind of rework not a complete delete in my opinion
steel warren
Trophies are fun rewards that you get from killing the boss I think they should ...
Yeah I guess but the thing is that bosses themselves & the trophy are annoying
molten crane
Yeah I guess but the thing is that bosses themselves & the trophy are annoying
I’ll try to make something cool I have an idea
steel warren
The boss always diverts everyone to fight it with a lot of people switching to abilities that can easily deal with it
And then the trophy always ends up being used by someone using an annoying ability
molten crane
The boss always diverts everyone to fight it with a lot of people switching to a...
I made something cool can you help
steel warren
Sure ig
rough ledge
Bump
twilit sequoia
trophies are just unbalanced garbage
opal canopy
pov your hidden unknown suggestion woke up from the death
twilit sequoia
anyone who is against this idea is a trophy dos teamer with alchmeist
opal canopy
rough ledge
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1365755204422733905/1385933990388826223/t...
Fr
rough ledge
lowkey didnt even knew this suggestion existed
Isn't it yours
opal canopy
like i cared that much anyways🔥
minor raven
i cant read this suggestion because all of these messages
opal canopy
i cant read this suggestion because all of these messages
massive civil war was happened here
earnest estuary
trpohy cool
bitter sapphire
trpohy cool
Exept the balance
earnest estuary
massive civil war was happened here
dang so like all of tbb lore happend here
fuckin red vs blu happend
opal canopy
fuckin red vs blu happend
hybrid yarrow
fuckin red vs blu happend
TF2
rough ledge
Bump
opal canopy
suggestion so goat people who thumbs up lowky dumping it
rough ledge
Yes
rough ledge
Bumppp
rough ledge
Bump
rough ledge
BUMLPP
rough ledge
Bump
olive swallow
This is the worst suggestion ever
ur the worst suggestion ever...
graceful anvil
Y
olive swallow
did you know that the dog and cat trophies aren't as heavy as the tree and mushroom trophies?
the tree and mushroom trophies instead have more anti-grav to make up for it, isn't that weird?????
cosmic orbit
Tropies are good becuase its a reward for killing a boss and tree lord gives tree badge and all bosses help for that 1 quest kill a boss
hybrid yarrow
Tropies are good becuase its a reward for killing a boss and tree lord gives tre...
Well, yes, but no.
I believe that trophies need a rework to keep that reward feature without being basically everything a camper could ever ask for.
cosmic orbit
Eh
opal canopy
rough ledge
The came into the game
sullen saffron
how to get trophy right now after the update
rough ledge
how to get trophy right now after the update
Impossible