╙🖇mods-making-discussion

[regal bolt]

How to enlarge starting loadouts menu? l'll planning to switch for wildscreen mode in the future

Playing with Sota UI + EGUI (both modded a bit), btw

l mean, how can l fully close those flanks? Want to make 21:9 black screen of "starting loadout menu"

[summer girder]

Penta mentioned

[boreal mural]

Hey has anyone recently made mods that add quests

Ive been out of the loop for like 6 months since my pc died

Going to go back to trying to make my own questline

[boreal mural]

Did the penta get nerfed to the ground like the tonkor did

I havnt launched warframe in years but i remember there was some kind of grenade launcher nerf

[summer girder]

Probably

[still vale]

hey, can anyone tell me the console command to start a quest? I know one to finish quest, but what about starting one?

[misty mulch]

new one just seems buggy ish

[shell grail]

i have a suggestion, shouldnt weapon sway effect be minimal if you alt walk (slow walk) while ads?

[jade oxide]

slightly less

[shell grail]

yea, regardless the gun still shoots at the static center

[plucky yarrow]

how do i remodel and stuff, i want to get into that

[celest forge]

https://youtu.be/4haAdmHqGOw?si=QGluCf1tid2PA5fr

[green topaz]

Hello everyone. Blue textures of the Rhino Duty exoskeleton. from the third person, everything is fine. How can I fix this?
I just need to fix the error with the blue texture polygons for the RHINO armor of all factions. I've just tested the other suits and they're fine. The texture bug is ONLY in the RHINO armor, no matter which faction

[undone spruce]

that looks like the game isnt finding the textures declared in the ogf files for the hud exo

you probs gotta check in ogf tool if the textures paths are correct

[green topaz]

I don't quite understand what needs to be done. I'm not good at modding when it comes to working with files and textures. I managed to find the OGF file for the rhino DOLG armor.

[undone spruce]

that cant be done with files alone, you must modify the ogf files itself

but thats a problem with the mod , see if its isntalled properly or if its a known bug from it

[celest forge]

Me when I forgot to set the lead_gun bone restraint before making all of my animations for a gun and noticed after literally making them all

https://tenor.com/view/ad-gif-23467171

[summer stream]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1340625656882532359/1363396820813746206/togif.gif

[green topaz]

it is installed correctly, and all the patches for it are there too. I tried to install it by combining several installation options. for example, with or without a modified Hip model, and so on. I also tried to change the priority. by default, I always put HD modules at the very bottom of the list according to the author's instructions.

I do not know if this error is known, but I do not think I have met anyone who has it. I need to look more carefully.

[summer stream]

https://tenor.com/view/congratulations-evangelion-gif-19976737

[green topaz]

it is advised to disable this mod. I'll try, but thanks anyway for the feedback❤️

[rough lion]

How do I change silenced shot sounds again?
Was it **"snd_shoot_sil" **or **"snd_silncer_shot" **or something else

[undone spruce]

i think its snd_silncer_shot

[rough lion]

yeah it was

[jade oxide]

snd_silncer_shot for npc
snd_silncer_shot_actor for... well.. actor xd

[rough lion]

the virgin "player" vs the chad "actor"

[jade oxide]

lol

[plucky yarrow]

we need this kind of revolver

only if i had time and the knowledge

[random fulcrum]

you only really needed time and knowledge to use google

[plucky yarrow]

this picture is from a mod but its not compatible

[celest forge]

Isn't that literally a picture of a mod for Anomaly

The Soul Crystal retexture for the Teivaz Colt .357

[random fulcrum]

yeah it is

[celest forge]

There's a lot of people who use that mod with GAMMA

It's very much compatible

[random fulcrum]

bro probably just saw the red text in the moddb page that says it's archived

[plucky yarrow]

yeah mb

[quiet elbow]

I excavated this inventory mod for RTTN https://www.moddb.com/mods/zoneexpanded-road-to-the-north/addons/inventory-space what I'd give to have grid/volume management, RE4 style, in Anomaly too

[stray grotto]

not sure where to ask.. how do I include/exclude weapons for lowered sprinting animation mod?

[fair canopy]

You could always give someone with the time and skill a commission to figure it out

[verbal siren]

Edit the lower_weapon_sprint.script and add your weapon item ID to the list with a number following the last one.

[verbal siren]

Given the amount of shit you need to carry in Anomaly (and even more in GAMMA) I would have to disable the tetris mod 2 hours into my save.

[quiet elbow]

I mean.. I'd gladly chip in if more ppl are interested. But idk how commissioning works at all, where do I ask, who etc

[quiet elbow]

Well I'm sure if it's done it will be configurable to not just be a burden but add to the immersion... The mod I linked is a cheat that gives you more volume iirc, the mechanic was in RTTN already I think

[rough lion]

I'm trying to edit some smart terrains for "New Levels", if I add ***"{+redemption_6_switcher_3_pressed} 0 ,1" *** it should stop Monolith from respawning after pulling all 3 levels in the "Collider", no?

[shy osprey]

Does the Frosty Weapons Pack work on DX9?

[drifting moat]

afaik no

[verbal siren]

Most of them should, just don't install 3DSS patches.

[small thistle]

Frosty weapon pack.
This only happens with zoom scopes, if i remove the scope or install a collimator - the magazine is visually replaced correctly.

and

I can't write to the thread FWP

[faint sable]

Hey, try this patch : https://disk.yandex.ru/d/a_U2wu9baQ33Gw
saw someone mentioning about it in the moddb comments on my post, wasn't sure what they was saying since I don't read anything but English

mainly it fixed the ctd for my guns, guess I messed up on the 3dss part, let me know if it does fix it however, for me I just tested it on debug mode with your setup of the rifle and it seems to work

[faint sable]

hmm

are you using 3dss right

[small thistle]

yes

[faint sable]

imma re-test that gun hang on

give me few minutes

So some reason it does seem fine on my end, however my recommendation is trying to re-download the zip. I just updated with the 3dss fix from a user on the comments. try it out. https://www.mediafire.com/file/oqltmsov7pk9h3g/Escape+From+Tarkov+9x39+Weapon+Pack.7z/file
I can only really see it as an issue if you downloaded FWP and the zip extraction somehow missed some omf. it can happen sadly, has happened to me on my own pack installations for my own runs.

safest bet is to download the pack from the link I gave, and giving it highest prio from fwp so
FWP
9x39 pack install

[small thistle]

ok i try it

thanx

[quick veldt]

dumb question: how do i get in again XD?

nvm it's esx

[small thistle]

fwp has been redownloaded

[faint sable]

oh right it'd conflict on the ones within the fwp pack itself, since the fwp contains everything together, this will be changed in the next update I am working on. for now just delete any duplicates it states until the game loads, i'd start with what that error says and repeat until it boots up.

[small thistle]

okay

[quick veldt]

still fucked but i'll improve it ig

[small thistle]

is my load order correct?

I tried to put them in different positions, either there was no animation of changing the magazine or this error

[faint sable]

yea I mean it doesn't look wrong, you don't need the patch if you just re-downloaded the zip from the mediafire link I gave or the moddb version of the 9x39 pack

you also need to go through the fomod setup and tick the 3dss toggle on for the 9x39 if you haven't already

[small thistle]

still the same error above

3dss was turned on

[celest forge]

Bad mod delete it

[green topaz]

Hello there. please tell me the mod that allows you to place the armor plate inside the suit and not on the belt. I've been looking for 2 hours, but I can't find it.

It is advisable that this mod supports the animation of putting on and removing the armor plate.

[celest forge]

Very nice model

What gun is it

[celest forge]

Ok Sherlock Holmes

[undone spruce]

i still think the texture looks flat, but i cant get it better than this for now

[celest forge]

You should focus a lot on the roughness map if you want it looking ok in game tho

Assuming this is for Anomaly

[undone spruce]

yeah, my biggest problem has been balancing a bit for the game shaders to not make everything looking shiny, editing the normal R channel on photoshop seems to be the best solution for now

[celest forge]

What animations are you gonna use for it

[undone spruce]

im making my own, since ive done for some DA pistols i could import some from them

DA and SA

for now theres
3 variations of colt 38 revolvers
2 variations of taurus pt-22
colt 25
22lr revolver
trejo 22
and this savage pistol 32acp

im still looking for a 380 pistol to make

thinking of releasing it along the ammos

[celest forge]

What's DA and SA

[undone spruce]

Double action
just to say the hammer doesnt stay cocked after the slide moves

[celest forge]

Oh alright

You've made all of those for STALKER?

[undone spruce]

yeah

mostly because i had free time in the recess that ends today, so ill just see it to the end and see if i be able to release it

[celest forge]

That's really cool

Can't wait to see them

I can help with icons if you want

[undone spruce]

thanks, ive already done some of them picking from what i could find on discord history, i think theyre ok, but i still think some will have to be redone

those are that already done till now, i think only making a 380 pistol, the savage and trejo animations, some ammo texture, some icons and sounds

[celest forge]

LMK on the icons

I just love to make those

[small thistle]

I think I found a possible reason for the disappearance of animations with fixes, I use the new TAA antialiasing from announcements that replaces the executables with its own gamma (by the way, the grenade launcher does not work with them). What do you think, does this affect it?

[jade oxide]

lol

[drifting moat]

A spritelencer

[summer stream]

the exclusive suppressor

bottle

[jade oxide]

i love the quality of the mesh model

makes the gun look so goofy but i love it

[fossil folio]

Anyone knows where MCM settings get stored?

[sweet dew]

hello
screen 1 - i have returned recipes of containers
screen 2 - i am able to craft them
screen 3 - they exist in the game, i can get them in debug mode

but crafting gives me nothing. literally it consumes resources and give nothing as result

any ideas? thank u

[drifting moat]

Try this

[misty mulch]

axr_options.ltx, whichever version of it wins the overwrites in MO2

normally in gamma that's "GAMMA MCM Values - Rename to keep your settings"

[snow cove]

I did something similar recently, to return the recipe to the veles detector, do I also need to make a similar file for it?

[sweet dew]

thank u!
but unfortunatelly dont know where to place it. and what files it overrides. i have never worked with scripts.
i need to just put it somewhere? add this code somewhere?

placed it in \gamedata\scripts of my mod archive and it gave nothing.

sorry for stupid questions and taking your time

[shy osprey]

I launch the game with the frosty weapon pack on DX9 and get this error
3DSS disabled

[random fulcrum]

!fwp mayhaps try asking in the project's discord for support

[queen pine]

@shy osprey
UGP is no longer available in Gamma as it has been superseded by FWP from the same creator.
UGP(FWP) Discord invite link: Accept
Latest FWP thread in this server: #1277740537344168016 message
Frosty Weapon Pack install video:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mAgUuvs1FY

[drifting moat]

I honestly don't know.

[drifting moat]

There was another guy who has a modpack and installed my workshop optimization mod. The guy told me the issue of the containers not crafting were resolved after I sent him the same script I sent you

If you have workshop optimization mod put the file at higher priority than the workshop optimization mod and try again

[sweet dew]

i dont have this mode 😦

[drifting moat]

Nvm. What I said was stupid. It is impossible for this file to conflict with that mod because the name of the files aren't the same.

[sweet dew]

u a the best men
u have solved my problem

there are files with workbench code in this mode

It didnt work because I used inapropriate name

not only putting at the bottom but also renaming to 'zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz_cont_craft.script' is the solution

[random fulcrum]

do fucking not

serial killer behavior

[undone spruce]

true, also lets see if i can animate the silencer bone on stalker

[slow bolt]

yes please

and then post it here

[drifting moat]

You should name it zz_item_repair_keep_crafting_window_open.script and let it overwrite the one with the same name (they're basically the same script except a few changes)

[undone spruce]

it is

[steady apex]

now make a cat silencer

[sacred token]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kill-gun-gif-5611209

[slow bolt]

[jade oxide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dgQcSn9wAs

[shell grail]

Does anyone know if rosktok arena will be removed? ik the door is what's sucking the fps

[fair inlet]

mutant arena is planned to be removed, probably won't happen though

[ashen hatch]

Can anyone make a mod for basic needs like pissing and shtting?

[jade oxide]

are you subnormal? lol

[summer stream]

[celest nimbus]

[Mod Idea/Question] "Tactical Listen Mode" – focused hearing while holding breath

Hey stalkers,
I’ve been thinking about a feature that could enhance immersion and stealth gameplay — especially during night ops or in heavy weather.

Concept: While holding the F key, you enter a Tactical Listen Mode — in addition to the existing GAMMA mechanic that highlights nearby lootable items.
This mode could include:
-Ambient noise (wind, gunfire, general environmental sounds) gets muffled
-Footsteps, mutant sounds, and rustling have an extended audible range (not louder, just detectable from farther away)
-Slightly increased chance for nearby mutants to make growl sounds?

(Bonus: weapon shifts into a high-ready stance as a subtle visual cue)

I rely on audio a lot in GAMMA, and this would be a great way to scan for threats while moving cover to cover — stop, listen, decide.

I’m totally new to modding in GAMMA, aside from some .ltx tweaks for HUD positions and adding custom portraits —
…well, besides spending way more time adding new mods, getting them to work, briefly playing, then immediately thinking of one more thing to tweak or add to the already monstrous load order… all while praying I don’t break everything. 😅

Would love to hear what more experienced modders think — maybe someone out there feels like giving this a shot?

[novel ruin]

pretty pretty dam hard to do, i would said impossible. ambient noise can be handled, though extend range for footsteps is pretty impossible if not turn the engine up-side-down just for that. Mutants can easily be done by just play some extra sound

i think replace extend range for footsteps with a louder footstep then it can be done. though

you will need to know how to code for that, but it is an interesting idea that i might or might not stole it

[random fulcrum]

that's a shit ton of engine editing unless you're willing to have a nightmarishly heavy script that simulates distant sounds

imagine needing rdr2's eagle eye

[novel ruin]

idk if you know how to detect npc footsteps then you can add an extra sounds to it, set it to higher ranges, then bam, production ready

[random fulcrum]

yeah that is what i implied

[novel ruin]

i think it would be a great to bind it with free zoom

[random fulcrum]

so that freezoom shits the bed even harder

that goes hard

[vale canyon]

am i doing something wrong when opening level?
is this supposed to be like this?

[drifting moat]

I don't think you're supposed to do it in blender

[sweet dew]

lol
it breakes drugs crafting

[vale canyon]

i wanted to export the whole level into gltf files with some extensions to export its coordinate on level.

[vale canyon]

Fixed.
u need to set up paths in add-on settings

when u set path to unpacked gamedata it does resolve all other needed paths.
u just need to unpack all the db archives i suppose

[drifting moat]

[celest nimbus]

Well... ok, guess I'm out then 😄
No way I'll be able to just learn coding anytime soon with the time I have.
But knowing that reducing the volume of all sounds is possible, and that instead of extended range you could just adjust the chance of a mutant making a sound – that already sounds pretty good.
Feel free to steal the idea if you actually end up working on it!
Would be nice if there were at least an MCM config so I could still bind it to F 😉
(I barely use free zoom anyway... though that idea's not bad either.)

[regal bolt]

Hey guys
I keep getting this issue whenever I'm using 3DSS with HDR. Anyone know why this happens?

[random fulcrum]

damn that looks wicked cool

[fair canopy]

Probably cause hdr is blowing out the chroma in the scopes

[jade oxide]

which gun / scope is this ? what are your parameters ? default gamma ?

[regal bolt]

I'm using a heavily modded version of GAMMA. This gun is from the M4 Carbine Pack from Frosty

Here's my current config

r__color_grading (0, 0, 0)

r__enable_grass_shadow off

r__saturation 1.1
r__gamma 1
r__exposure 1
scope_factor 1

r2_sun_lumscale 3.
r2_gloss_factor 0.001
r2_gloss_min 0.56
r2_sun_lumscale 3.
r2_sun_lumscale_amb 2.5
r2_sun_lumscale_hemi 0.97063
r2_tonemap on
r2_tonemap_adaptation 3.0
r2_tonemap_amount 1
r2_tonemap_lowlum 0.55
r2_tonemap_middlegray 1.4
rs_c_brightness 1
rs_c_contrast 1
rs_c_gamma 1.
r2_sun_depth_near_scale 0.9998
r2_sun_depth_far_scale 0.99988
r2_sun_tsm_bias 0
ssfx_hud_hemi 0

shader_param_1 (1, 1, 1, -0.2)
shader_param_2 (0, 0, 0, 0.03)
shader_param_3 (0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.67)
shader_param_4 (1.12, 1.12, 1.13, -0.4)

r4_hdr10_bloom_blur_passes 20
r4_hdr10_bloom_blur_scale 1.
r4_hdr10_bloom_intensity 0.06
r4_hdr10_bloom_on 0
r4_hdr10_brightness 0.
r4_hdr10_colorspace 0
r4_hdr10_contrast 0.31
r4_hdr10_contrast_middle_gray 0.67
r4_hdr10_exposure 5
r4_hdr10_flare_blur_passes 12
r4_hdr10_flare_blur_scale 1.
r4_hdr10_flare_center_falloff 1.1
r4_hdr10_flare_ghost_ca 3.
r4_hdr10_flare_ghost_dispersal 0.6
r4_hdr10_flare_ghost_intensity 0.04
r4_hdr10_flare_ghosts 1
r4_hdr10_flare_halo_ca 10.
r4_hdr10_flare_halo_intensity 0.04
r4_hdr10_flare_halo_scale 0.47
r4_hdr10_flare_lens_color (1.000000, 0.700000, 1.000000)
r4_hdr10_flare_on 0
r4_hdr10_flare_power 0.04
r4_hdr10_flare_threshold 0.
r4_hdr10_gamma 1.5
r4_hdr10_on 1
r4_hdr10_pda_intensity 1.01
r4_hdr10_saturation 0.1
r4_hdr10_sun_dawn_begin 4.5
r4_hdr10_sun_dawn_end 6.
r4_hdr10_sun_dusk_begin 18.5
r4_hdr10_sun_dusk_end 21.
r4_hdr10_sun_inner_radius 0.2
r4_hdr10_sun_intensity 80.
r4_hdr10_sun_on 0
r4_hdr10_sun_outer_radius 0.4
r4_hdr10_tonemap_mode 1
r4_hdr10_tonemapper 6
r4_hdr10_ui_nits 100.
r4_hdr10_ui_saturation 0.5
r4_hdr10_whitepoint_nits 100.

ssfx_hud_hemi 0

shader_param_1 (1, 1, 1, -0.2)
shader_param_2 (0, 0, 0, 0.03)
shader_param_3 (0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.67)
shader_param_4 (1.12, 1.12, 1.13, -0.4)

[regal bolt]

It does ngl
but it's not exactly helpful in gunfights 😅

[regal bolt]

I believe this is the wpn_m4 model from that pack with the LPVO scope on it

[jade oxide]

ah funny, I forgot there was HDR to enable in modded exe.
i got a HDR10 monitor and I enable it through windows, I leave it off in the modded exe parameters lol so i have zero issues with 3DSS

[regal bolt]

ah alr

I'll give that a shot

[jade oxide]

i don't quite know why there is HDR settings in gamma, maybe for fine tuning ? have you tried like I do, disabling it and having it handled by windows ?

i know some games like Minecraft can't support it, because of java or something, as i've read, but to be fair, i never bothered tweaking it for gamma, it just straight out worked out of the box ^^

[regal bolt]

it works, but I don't get true HDR in STALKER without HDR10

My monitor can accept both HDR and SDR video, but if STALKER is only streaming SDR, it won't display in HDR

it'll just be interpreted a bit differently so that it is displayed as SDR

[jade oxide]

wait, you are streaming it ?

[regal bolt]

but with HDR10, the game is run and displayed in HDR

[regal bolt]

no
just talking about streaming from the game to the screen

as in a data stream

not a live stream

[jade oxide]

oh I see

i have zero idea why it works like this on your end hehe

[regal bolt]

It works with HDR off

[jade oxide]

i just know for mine, it will display HDR i don't need to tweak gamma

[regal bolt]

while that's true, you're not getting real HDR

[jade oxide]

game "HDR" off, but my monitor on I do get HDR

ah yes probably

[regal bolt]

it displays SDR video in an HDR format

[jade oxide]

but significant picture color & quality change though

which satisfies me

[regal bolt]

instead of displaying actual HDR video

[regal bolt]

alright

[jade oxide]

yea i get ikt

well i could try it actually i'm curious let's see

[regal bolt]

I'm just looking for some better contrast and visibility

[regal bolt]

do you want to try my current settings?

[jade oxide]

what file is that, that you linked ?

im trying default modded exe settings first

[regal bolt]

those are just the settings from my config

I'll send it to you in DMs

[rough lion]

How could I make my own prefetcher for my assortment of mods the most efficient way?

[tawny sedge]

hey guys, im looking to create a gun mod and add the CR 21 into stalker but im little lost as to how to develop it, i know how to 3d model and animate but im so confused on the developing side to it. Are there any resources that break down modding ?

[drifting moat]

Adding guns don't really require coding. Just LTX edits mostly

But I'm no gun guru never did one. Try YT it has tutorials even from Juan

[tawny sedge]

alright ill take a look, and let you know, also quick one, for weapon modding do you think theres anything diffrent i need to do for gamma and anomaly and efp

thank you for the advice too

[drifting moat]

Yes. For anomaly you need to configure weapons so they appear in shops and vendors will actually buy it

[tawny sedge]

oh yes thanks

what is juan's yt? also sorry if my question annoy

[drifting moat]

The guy who owns this thread: https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1100689401966755870

[lilac idol]

juan has a tut for adding scopes

[drifting moat]

Is that all?

[lilac idol]

what do you specifically need?

[lilac idol]

yeah last I checked it was that one

[tawny sedge]

ok so, i know how to model and rig stuff, and i already have the xray plugin for blender, i just need to know how i can take the gun i want to make in blender and use it in gamma, anomaly and efp

[main plover]

Check pinned there is looong tutorial how to add new weapon to anomaly

[tawny sedge]

pinned where?

[drifting moat]

Pinned messages here. Scroll through them

[tawny sedge]

alright, thank you

jeez 2 hours is crazy work 😭 shoutout lunatic though

thank you all so much, ill watch this and get started and see how everything goes

[drifting moat]

Gl mate

[novel ruin]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1180479597838614528

[rough lion]

That's awfully convenient, thank you!

[undone spruce]

i kinda wanted to show the front mag release from the savage but i dont think its possible in a sensible way

[sacred vigil]

I'm slowly figure out the textures in this game, i just really need a resource for file paths/the actual anomoly files themselves. I cannot find the textures for the vest and the electronics on the Nosorogs to edit. Anyone able to point me to a resource or the file path itself?

i found the textures for the helmet and the nosorog parts, but the rest i cannot track down

[undone spruce]

i think the fastest would be to open the ogf files in ogf tool or the toolset ogf viewer and check the texture path

[sacred vigil]

ahh, guess im gonna have to use that damn thing lmao. No way to open the ogf files in blender or autodesk is there? For when/if i wanna do model edits/replacements that is

[undone spruce]

there is

in blender, using pavel's blenderxray plugin

[sacred vigil]

oh sweet, i was hoping there was a plugin, tyvm

[sacred vigil]

worked like a charm, got the filepath. I feel more powerful now. SEAFOAM GREEN BEGONE

[formal minnow]

Hello im need help with something

i want to make a radio mod

however i just have one questionn

i asked people about music i can put to the radio

they said for some music you need copyrights holder permission

how do i check that certian music

permission or not

[novel ruin]

Mainly their license, but honestly, who give a crap if some obscure mod of a mod of a mod have copyrighted content?

if you want to know how: do !music in #🤖bot-commands

[drifting moat]

DC TOS maybe? For brands like Monster energy etc it's fine, but with music it might count as distributing copyrighted content which goes against GAMMA rules too. But the pack uses copyrighted music anyways so idk. Guess it's kindof a grey zone?

[novel ruin]

Copyright laws have always been a moral fights, there is a very clear and huge grey zone on what right and wrong. But i dont think anyone would care much for some music in some mod
Maybe stealing others work directly is what talking about in gamma rules

[summer stream]

god wont help me

[drifting moat]

In general breaking DC TOS = breaking GAMMA server rules

[drifting moat]

But yeah I agree with you on this anyways.

[main plover]

Is substance painter only/best option to just make retexture of 3d model?

Because I can't work shit on flat uv maps

[summer stream]

you can bake on lighting using it
you want a retexture? bake mesh maps, then re-do the metallic map and etc for it
you need to manually paint it, but it will be worth it

but i mostly use photoshop to retexture some aspects

i even did normal using it

[main plover]

I want to change camo for one of factions from kvma and I am wondering which option would be easiest to work with i can learn new tool always

[summer stream]

you want to change the general texture? use photoshop

paint or gimp can be used too

normal is different kind of stuff

same to metallic ones

simple retextures : photoshop, paint.net, gimp
complex retextures : substance painter

[main plover]

Ty will have that in mind

[jade oxide]

everything is under copyright basically. So you can't legally speaking (except if you are like me and you don't care, but i don't bother making music playlist mods...lol) distribute any music, except if you find the mention free to use or whatever the license is named I don't remember.

That's why some youtubers and many content creators use those famous right-free music things available on youtube, which sometimes are very close to famous real music compositions

[tawny sedge]

hey guys, so i watched the video on modding and im testing it out with a previous model i made, i ran into a little issue with editing the channels of the normal map on gimp, is there a way for me to duplicate and replace the green red and blue or will i have to just download photoshop ?

[tawny sedge]

nvm i sorted it out

[rancid falcon]

@soft badge hey plz help me mod

[agile flicker]

Hello, does anyone have any documentation on how to make a custom npc? I'm not trying to make anything fancy, just a guy with a custom name that i can turn into my companion

[viscid kayak]

https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/quests/npc_creation.html obviously not a great idea to skip to this chapter immediately, but this sounds like something you might be looking for

[turbid lily]

I need help to translate the base game sound files into english, if any russian and english speakers can assist it would be much apperciated. This is for Anomaly Subtitles btw.

[fair canopy]

Which stalker mod recently added the 3d rendering icons? Was it a coming soc gunslinger update?

[brave niche]

https://www.keltecweapons.com/firearm/pistols/pr57/ this would be sick

[drifting moat]

You mean this? https://youtu.be/8JYLSXUVwYo?si=6xcfqwFltld8ZpET

[celest forge]

That is very impressive from a technical standpoint but the end result is awful imo

Like, the icons look really bad

[lethal garden]

Anyone can tell me whats causing these lines across surfaces like this when using a flashlight?

[drifting moat]

I think it doesn't look that bad. I just wonder on the performance impact. Like imagine opening a stash with a lot of stuff in it. Maybe he optimized that too. It would be real funny if that mod turned out to run better than the current one

[celest forge]

From what I understand, it only renders the items that are on screen at the moment by putting them in and out of the sheet dynamically, so it renders only items in view, not all the inventory

But I personally think they look like shit

Flat and dull

Setting up icons isn't that bad specially with tools like SIE which pretty much does it for you

[drifting moat]

We need that part so bad in anomaly

[celest forge]

Well, like he explained in the video, Anomaly uses an icon atlas

All item icons are stored in the same huge file, which is rendered anytime you look at any item, but then you just pull the coords from that atlas

Problem is all sorts of mods that add items not using an atlas, but individual icon files

[random fulcrum]

i mean surely it just uses the atlas as the vanilla example

as in there is handling for loose icons

[celest forge]

Yeah, but what I mean is that it's somewhat performance taxing to have to render all of those dozens of individual icon files

Instead of just the big atlas

That's probably part of the lag when you open your inventory/stash in heavily modded Anomaly

[drifting moat]

Hmm. So in theory if I would use oldschool icons and would put 1000kg of those items in a stash it wouldn't lag nearly as bad?

[celest forge]

This is all a theory, I don't know much of the lag is because of the icons rendering

You'd have to test it

[drifting moat]

Ah. I want to do so much, but don't have enough time. I think I'll quit my job and just become a full time modder until I starve to death. Opinions?

[celest forge]

https://tenor.com/view/basedspongebob-based-spinchslob-epicbob-epic-gif-22636716

[lethal garden]

Anyone know what's making darker colors/the sky appear like this? Some hues are brighter than normal, shadows are a bit darker.

[summer stream]

dear sir that's compression

[misty mulch]

partially caused by DX8 as well (including the brighter/darker than normal issue)

[viscid kayak]

ooohhhkay going a little bit crazier now

local base_set_random_stash = treasure_manager.set_random_stash
function treasure_manager.set_random_stash(no_spot, hint, bonus_items, id, dbg)
    base_set_random_stash(no_spot, hint, bonus_items, id, dbg)
end

how could this code alone cause the "find the documents" missions to never register as complete? Like, how could anything possibly be set up in a way where switching function pointers around just breaks stuff??
am i crazy? did i set up this monkey patch wrong?

[drifting moat]

When I create a monkey patch first thing is I add this so I know that my patch is actually the one being used

print("MONKEE")

[viscid kayak]

well I know for a fact it's getting called, cause it does the other stuff I told it to before I commented it out to figure this bug out

[drifting moat]

Ah okay

[viscid kayak]

wait I'll grab screenshots to explain the weirdness in a bit

hdr10 on so all screenshots are deepfried woohoo
1: stash first open, looted all, no "Stash found" popup
2: stash close, then open again, loot has regenerated, close without looting anything
3: open and close a few times, loot regens on every open, picking anything up doesn't progress the quest
4: the quest itself
all other stashes are not bugged, it's just this one quest

function that spawns items like this miiiiight be this one? but i don't get why anything here would throw a fit

in tasks_nta_stash.script

[drifting moat]

If it's only that single task then I would grab the task Id and check the .ltx file defining it. It might have some additional logic, but this would probably lead nowhere because what you just said about it breaking even if you do "nothing" in the monkey patch

[viscid kayak]

it's a good shout though cause like, I'm clueless so might aswell lol

[drifting moat]

That's what I do when I get stuck. I start checking everything no matter how irrelevant I think they're. It usually works

[lethal garden]

I recently upgraded my GPU, so I can now play on DX11, but im trying to hash out all of these visual issues im having.

As far as 'compression' goes, is it because Im playing on a lower resolution?

[viscid kayak]

im stuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupid, set_random_stash has a return value

[lethal garden]

Any advice for fixing this? ^

[viscid kayak]

i got nothing

[viscid kayak]

oh it only returns shit in debug mode and taking that into account didn't fix anything
nvm nvm it does I just wrote to the wrong file

[lethal garden]

Heres some more shit for me to complain about.

[main plover]

4:3

[slow bolt]

!support

[queen pine]

@lethal garden If you have a question or need help with G.A.M.M.A., please use the correct channel for your problem:

For vanilla G.A.M.M.A. modlist (this means that your modlist is unchanged and untouched): #🔨base-gamma-support

For custom G.A.M.M.A. modlists (this includes mods added by yourself and also mods that are disabled by default in G.A.M.M.A.: #🔨modded-gamma-support

If you are having issues with the installer, or with your G.A.M.M.A. installation: #1026866080347603065

Any other channel ARE NOT support channels. If your question is a support question, you may be asked to go to the proper channel.

[slow bolt]

Dont leak into other channels without your instane pack of mods pls

[languid burrow]

Does it look like something usable, in theory? An additional alternative storage system with nearly unlimited storage (in terms of available free x-ray IDs). On the left - storage inventory, on the right - actor. Can be integrated with furniture mods, implement banking or item delivery system between locations and so on.

QoL stuff like grouping/sorting/searching/mass withdraw or deposit/etc will be added.

[misty mulch]

could you hypothetically insta kill your game using your mod by suddenly "withdrawing" 10k ids worth of items in one go

[languid burrow]

Yep, i did it when fucked up with withdraw amount calculations: insta 65k+ ids. But I plan to limit it. Something like x5 objects taken with shift and another x5 with ctrl. x25 max with one click.

[drifting moat]

I had something exactly like this planned to solve the lagging stashes issue 👌

[random fulcrum]

i've wanted indexed list stashes ever since i first played ogsr

shit is just magical

i'd argue it's even easier to navigate

[hidden gyro]

Hello, i dont know if this is the correct "room" for this i will ask. I was thinking about a mod for GAMMA that would allow you to turn grenade launcher grenades into throwable grenades. You cant buy normal grenades because they are "too powerfull", yet you can buy and find launchable ones often. It makes grenade launcher so good to have on your gun. So why not make a recipe that would allow you to turn them into homemade throwable grenades. They dont have to be as strong and can have variable fuze. Thoughts?

[drifting moat]

If you plan on making it and want opinions then this, https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1029824156289732649 and https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/958342885005221898 are all the right places to ask.

[drifting moat]

With a search function I would take that instead of the current inventory screen for my own stashes.

[random fulcrum]

yeah the search bar was sorely missing in ogsr

also a way to sort them by weight or quantity

other than just name

if stashes had all of that it'd be killer

[undone spruce]

so news on my world ogf woes
immediate crash when spawning weapon on inventory = motion ref declared on ogf
crash when dropping the weapon off inventory = still no fucking clue

[celest forge]

Post the log

[undone spruce]

[error]Expression : _valid( c )
[error]Function : CPhysicsShellHolder::correct_spawn_pos
[error]File : D:\a\xray-monolith\xray-monolith\src\xrGame\PhysicsShellHolder.cpp
[error]Line : 214
[error]Description : object: wpn_sav190719968 model: dynamics\weapons\wpn_sav1907\wpn_sav1907_world

thatrs the only relevant part

hmm checking the exe code, let me try smth

[celest forge]

How did you make the world model

[undone spruce]

i pulled the hud model, deleted the bones and vortex groups that weren't needed, modified the mesh to reduce tri count, and redid the vortex groups

the only way i can make it work is copying teh skeleton from a already working world ogf, modifying and parenting to my mesh, then without problems

which i have no problem doing, i just find it weird not knowing if its a detail or export problem from xrayblender

just find it weird im the only one showing these problems

either way, another pistol finished

[fair canopy]

You need to set a collision box on world model

[undone spruce]

is there any documentation about it

?

[fair canopy]

Not that I know of

It might be mentioned in lunatics video

[naive snow]

If you search in discord in this channel, I faintly remember running someone through the process of setting up the collisions for the world model

[naive snow]

#╙🖇mods-making-discussion message

Here, it was in this serie of posts

[undone spruce]

oh, i see now

thanks, ill see to set that now

[fair canopy]

You can also just set your hud model as your world model as long as it has a collision box. You don't need to delete any bones

Just set everything except the gl and silencer to wpn body

[naive snow]

Don't encourage BaS bad practices

[fair canopy]

Well then just decimate that bitch a few times

[naive snow]

The Juant special

[undone spruce]

i wasnt aware of those collision boxes

the way to modify those boxes are throught text lines?

[naive snow]

Nah, you modify in blender, you get the scale and everything through the gizmos. Otherwise use the Fit to model or whatever option, works pretty good overall

[undone spruce]

im seeing now, dont mind, forgot how to read

[hollow minnow]

How do u port mod from Anomaly to IWP?

[slow bolt]

Wouldn't IWP server be the place to ask?

considering it runs on CoC source code - its not gonna be pretty

[celest forge]

https://tenor.com/view/entrance-undertaker-walking-wwe-gif-15650866

[naive snow]

How's been the work? What obscene new weapon did you make this time?

[celest forge]

What's the last one you remember

[naive snow]

Oh boy ehhhh whatever was momo's service riffle or something?

Was it a shotty?

[celest forge]

https://imgur.com/a/juans-weapon-delivery-service-showcase-pictures-UQKgPwS Well, you can watch em here

[naive snow]

Is that an in-order list?

[celest forge]

Yes

First is the oldest, last is the newest

[naive snow]

Okay so I faintly remember the Defender

You've been busy

[celest forge]

Somewhat

[naive snow]

Nice to see some new revolvers

Did you ever manage to get a single reload/count system going?

[celest forge]

I didn't

Too much work

Having to make 7 reloads per gun sounds fantastic from the user's POV but not from mine

[naive snow]

That's the cross to bear

[celest forge]

And this is a bear on a cross

[naive snow]

I've missed this shit

[lethal garden]

Where can I find the .ltx containing the Mutant Skins/Hides?

Also

Is it possible for me to download previous versions of GAMMA? Or only the current version?

[drifting moat]

Check the id of one. Then use something like total commander to look for .ltx files that contain that id

[drifting moat]

It is not possible. Only if someone sends it to you

*there is no easy way of doing it

[summer stream]

me with old gamma :

[novel ruin]

i think you can, if you know how to use github, you can revert gamma’s custom mod through it, like balancing and stuff

you cant revert mods that is dowloaded elsewhere

It would take a while to dig through a lot of pr though but it should be clean in the main branch

[drifting moat]

But doing so can corrupt saves

[misty mulch]

You also wouldn't have the old mod load order

Although ig you could copy old diffs for that too

But I also wouldn't recommend it for all of that. And moddb doesn't keep old versions of mods

[kind hull]

@misty mulch great modding guide 😄

[tawny sedge]

hey what does it mean if you create a gun mod right and you followed the instructions from the 2 hour long video minus the part where you make the hud animations unique so it doesn't require the mod you used in blender and when you load the game to test said mod it shows up in debug menu but when you try equip the gun and hold it in hand the game crashes and says it cant open insert gun name _hud.ogf

[drifting moat]

I'm no expert, but I think it misses the hud animations

[tawny sedge]

ohh shit, thanks, also when i export the ogf of the gun its says warning" no texture in addon or something like that ?i can get the exact words if needed

[drifting moat]

I won't be able to help with that. I never added gun models/anims. I just know that it's the animation file.

[blissful marsh]

greetings stalkers, whats cookin ?

[random fulcrum]

is this a teaser for a cooking mod?

[tawny sedge]

@drifting moat thanks bro, ill figure it out, ill try match the gun model i made to the beretta armature from pretty pistol, export it and use the hud animation for the beretta from pretty pistols and make them standalone.

[drifting moat]

Gl!

[tawny sedge]

@drifting moat i got it too work!!!, i got some help and you were right, it missed the hud animations cuz of a typo and the texture thing was cuz i didnt have it in the right directory when exporting

The gun model works, now all i need to do is add the extra stuff like descriptions and make it so traders sell it in anomaly and that npcs have it on loudout

[drifting moat]

Great work. Lemme see here

[tawny sedge]

i started off with a pistol after im done with it ill work on the cr21 gun.

[quasi ice]

can someone do full auto fire mod from mk14 ebr?

[kind hull]

Hey @misty mulch I was reading your dltx guide, does mo2 override the loading in alphabetic order?

[random fulcrum]

no because the dude is sleeping on the job and his ass has still not developed the mo2 plugin

[kind hull]

[random fulcrum]

it's a deep cut joke

nevermind

no mo2 doesn't override the alphabetical order thing from dltx

do fucking not stack z's find other ways to make your mod take precedence

or if you're not planning on publishing just go crazy who cares at that point

but do fucking not perpetuate the cycle

[kind hull]

how does that makes sense?
Order is so important in MO2 mods

[random fulcrum]

take a guess as to why

no wrong answers

[kind hull]

or the order is set by MO2, or its alphabetical

[random fulcrum]

brother

mo2 sets priorities by overwriting files

it's not obscure

[kind hull]

hmm a okay

[random fulcrum]

dltx is designed to work that way in the engine

it's not handled by mo2

unless you have 2 dltx patches named the same

in which case mo2 dictates the priority

because you'd be overwriting files

[vapid raven]

does an MIT license on moddb mean i can use it without asking perms

The MIT License is a widely adopted, permissive open-source license that allows users to:
Use, modify, and distribute software released under the license.
Have high license compatibility.
Have remarkably broad flexibility in how they can use, modify, distribute, or even sell software.
Eliminate almost all restrictions on what can be done with the licensed software.

[kind hull]

ye

[vapid raven]

so i can use the mod in a publicly released modpack

and do a

mod name - mod creator

in mo2

[drifting moat]

Sure. If you want to be extra careful ask the author

[random fulcrum]

if possible, always ask for permission

if not, always credit

in any case, always credit

[drifting moat]

If you ever want to use any of my mods you can use it and I don't care if you credit me or not.

[random fulcrum]

shoutouts to serious

[kind hull]

Great! I was already reading yours to learn how modding works 🙂

[drifting moat]

Which one?

[kind hull]

Job can't wait, I'd like to fix Merc tasks

They are broken, nobody would accept a task in Dark Valley or Cordon if ur in dead city

[drifting moat]

Some task setup scripts have a parameter that can affect how close/far the task can send you. Where it had a parameter I added functionality to be toggleable from MCM menu

There should be a dropdown in the MCM menu where you can select:

• Same map
• Nearby maps
• Same + Nearby
• Only far

I would accept a Dark Valley task. As a merc you run around DC -> AW -> TC -> DW -> Garbage -> Agroprom -> Yantar and pick up as many tasks as you can

[vapid raven]

What have you made

[drifting moat]

https://github.com/Bence7661/Serious_mods_master_repository/tree/main/mods

[languid forum]

Does anyone know if there is a mod that makes it so that guns from NPCs dont always drop? like giving it a spawn chance same as armor?

[verbal siren]

Never heard of something like this.

[languid forum]

damn, i really wanna get a mod like this it´s kinda overpowered that you can go to a military outpost and have a decent chance at getting like a green barrel SVD or AK

[drifting moat]

Is the problem the weapon itself dropping or the fact that it drops with good parts?

[languid forum]

the weapon itself dropping, for example in late game I also dont want Sin to drop me a PKP on every second kill

or UNISG dropping an AMB17

gives you another thing to grind for

aside from armor and artefacts

since in mid game you most likely already have some of the best guns already

[main plover]

What dds encondig works for icons universally trought dx8/9/11

[frosty lake]

my first gun

[main plover]

Sag ma balls
Very nice

[verbal siren]

BC3/DXT5

[main plover]

idk in what i was exporting it before but file went from 2100 kb to 315 kb

[verbal siren]

Probably uncompressed

[main plover]

even more weird is that it worked fine on my machine but sometimes for others don't classic

[verbal siren]

Tell me about it.
Is it for icons or something else?

[main plover]

https://discordapp.com/channels/912320241713958912/1342569846759751800 loot module

[blissful marsh]

greetings https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyFuha5cIfw

[fair canopy]

ah the classic "let me dunk this gun in acid and then restore it"

[novel ruin]

You will need to have 1:1 aspect ratio+the resolution must be the power of 2 like 32x32+BC5 in order to work correctly for all dx

[main plover]

Got it covered it was just uncompressed issue I had to screw it up in one of updates

[summer stream]

poor rpd

[main plover]

You need really long arm to hold this gun

[frosty lake]

no way

[kind hull]

hm what mod have that paremeter?

[quasi ice]

do frosty allow to do changes in his gun pack?

[faint sable]

yes you can edit anything in my pack

[eternal rune]

hello, i want to change ammo damage, is this the right file and the right thing to change?

[random fulcrum]

yes

you're modifying the ammo's damage modifier property

@eternal rune

[drifting moat]

I think all 3 task related QoL mods have it

[tawny sedge]

@drifting moat is the QoL Task mod you made crash if you have re:done on?

[drifting moat]

SÍ

But I will make a comp patch soon

very soon

[tawny sedge]

thanks man 🙂

what the, discord automatically adds the smiley face when you do the ": )"

[drifting moat]

Everything does that nowadays

:)

[sacred token]

You can turn it of in the settings

The "Chat" settings

[eternal rune]

thanks

[kind hull]

(:

[kind hull]

But they're not in mcm menu

[drifting moat]

Look for this

[misty mulch]

Yes, though in a perfect world you'd want to do this via DLTX file (check pins for guide) rather than directly editing the config file

[kind hull]

There's only 1 parameter there

[drifting moat]

Yes. How many you want? Only 1 parameter tells the task creator function how far it can look for task objects.

[drifting moat]

I use 1 and then pass it to every task creator that accepts that parameter (Agent rescue, Assault, Measurement). You can do it separately if you want.

That option was just put there because someone asked for it. Kinda half assed (You can't choose for what tasks to overwrite, it doesn't cover all task types).

[tawny sedge]

are there any mods that add new quests into the game ?

[misty mulch]

You're better off asking #╓☢stalker-chat or #╟🔰☢newbies-chat , this channel is for making your own mods, not asking for recs

Unless you meant "what mods add new tasks because I want to learn how to do that"

[tawny sedge]

50/50. i wanted to see what it takes to make more quests and find mods to extend my gameplay

[misty mulch]

Already in GAMMA then, look at iTheon's New Tasks Addon

[quasi ice]

what can i do if gun seems small in characters hands?

not all guns

only one model

[verbal siren]

Small as in too far or too small for the hands (like the FAL that was removed from GAMMA)? Which gun?

[quasi ice]

small like this

[verbal siren]

Take off that armor and show another screenshot

[verbal siren]

What HUD fov is this?

Change it to 65-70

[quasi ice]

its already 65

[verbal siren]

Maybe the gun was made for hud fov 0.4? Try it.

[quasi ice]

Maybe I'm being paranoid, but I think it looks small anyway

[eternal rune]

one more question, do i need to change weapon_ammo.ltx in cqc mod and ballistics? or just cqc

[verbal siren]

Now it looks ok in my opinion. There is no easy way to make the gun bigger, you'd have to know how to deal with models and animations. It may look small with exo hands, but that's to be expected.

[quasi ice]

ok,anyway thanks to help

[misty mulch]

In whichever version of the file wins all conflicts. (If you did this as a DLTX file you wouldn't have to worry about this)

[eternal rune]

ok ty

[misty mulch]

!mo2search // use the FILE SEARCH to figure out which mod provides the winning version of that fule

[queen pine]

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[eternal rune]

ok

[soft pewter]

Anyone know where to start to make questlines for anomaly/gamma? I have a pretty cool drawn out questline idea but dont know where to start

It's called "Echoes of the Vanished"

[lilac idol]

you most likely didn't install the correct patches

[quasi ice]

ok,i have another question for thoose who know: Why are all weapons in the gamma that have ar systems recharged ONLY after removing the bolt delay? Does anyone know the reason or a ready-made patch to fix?

[fair canopy]

animations

[lilac idol]

I don't really understand this question, could you elaborate

[nocturne night]

Hey I was wondering if someone made an edit to Darkscape. Like removing anomalies so using the cars is actually viable or shortens it so you don't need to walk/drive for too long.

[drifting moat]

Those are dynamic anomalies. They're not "pre baked"

[random fulcrum]

one of the dollchan releases has a condensed darkscape

[drifting moat]

Or at least I think they're

[random fulcrum]

it's really good

[drifting moat]

Another more open/bigger map would be cool

[random fulcrum]

the thing is that the darkscape just needs content

cop maps suffer from the same issue in anomaly

ogsr (go play ogsr) has the darkscape ripe with content

[drifting moat]

It's still too big. Content or not. Driving cars would have to feel much better for it to be fine

[random fulcrum]

it's the same map sizewise but it has like 3 hours of questing to do

[drifting moat]

I used to love just driving around in fc3/4

[random fulcrum]

https://youtu.be/DAXOd_ln1AQ

[drifting moat]

unbelievable. And it's multiplayer too

[quasi ice]

well, look, let's say you have an m4a1, it has a bolt delay after emptying the magazine, that is, the bolt remains in the open position so that when you press the button, close it and send the cartridge into the chamber. The problem is that even after pulling the trigger, taking into account the empty magazine, the bolt remains in the open position, although it should have closed and it would have been necessary to cock it manually

my english is not perfect,so I may be mistaken in the wording

[celest forge]

So you want the idle empty to be open bolt and then when you shoot it empty once it closes the bolt and remains that way?

[quasi ice]

Yes, so that later you need to use the cocking handle

[celest forge]

I dont think thats possible under the current engine

[fair canopy]

link me loser

[fair canopy]

youd probably need a new scripted animation, and even then it wouldnt matter because no old gun would have that animaiton

literally more trouble than its worth

[celest forge]

I guess you could just make the empty reload use the charging handle instead of the bolt release

[celest forge]

You don't get it man

I can't play like this

I'm not cag'd out or immersed

[quasi ice]

It's sad to hear, I'll try to make the decision myself anyway

[fair canopy]

i dont know what cag'd out is but i think it might be publicly indecent

[celest forge]

https://tenor.com/view/buddy-are-you-even-cag-gif-4651387453395032887

[fair canopy]

[quasi ice]

and another one, how do I replace the texture of the magazine? Let's say I want to display a 50 round magazine instead of a 30 round magazine

[fair canopy]

You need to edit the ogf and probably the animations

You can't really just "change" things like that unless they're already similar to what's there

[celest forge]

Definitely animations

Not to mention he'd have to do it on every scope model too

[quasi ice]

ofc i know about animations, just wanna to know what needs to be prescribed and where. I've been doing modding for dayz, and the stalker directories aren't very familiar to me

But thanks for the information anyway

[drifting moat]

Is there a way to get the text of a TextWnd element?

You guys're not going to believe it

It's GetText()

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-oh-shit-rap-battle-meme-woah-gif-17873356

[flat swallow]

Guys isn't there any mod for Gamma that adds the sounds for weapons from Expedition mod? they are fcking badass

[main plover]

You can check here https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1080180246038446080

But it's much more than only sounds and I don't even know if it includes sounds

[signal patrol]

anyone know what the size of gammas cursor is?

32x32 pixels?

[undone spruce]

@fair canopy about DLTX overrides, is there a way to completely delete or undeclare a certain parameter from a existing ltx?

[fair canopy]

Yes

The modding guide explains a lot about using dltx and if you go to the modded exe patch notes there's a few more dltx operators explained there

[undone spruce]

i see, i'll have a look at it

[green topaz]

hello everyone. suggest a mod that adds additional pouches for magazines that are attached to the belt. I've seen this in the "bosspack" build. I have to carry a lot of magazines, but I don't have many pouches. is there any mod that will solve my problem?

I tried to search, but it didn't work out.

[summer stream]

bosspack...

Пиздец

[green topaz]

?

блять почему вы грызётесь между собой

мне так то пох я на гамме сижу норм

[summer stream]

Да забей, там просто у меня пару доёбов к разрабу

[green topaz]

политота? тоже разбирал и замечал

[summer stream]

Но если тебе нужно больше места для магазинов :
Просто через LTX сделай

[green topaz]

не скринил правда

[summer stream]

Не это..там васянство

[green topaz]

неее. так не честно

[summer stream]

Похуже фрости

[green topaz]

теже слова в адрес гаммы слышал

[summer stream]

А как ты предлагаешь? Это по сути будет как отдельный артефакт

[green topaz]

типо так

[summer stream]

Ищешь в ltx файле строчку про артефакты или смотришь в другом моде

Потом делаешь свой файл

Туда закидываешь то что надо

[green topaz]

я думал поменять значения вмещаемости магазинов у броников

[summer stream]

Потом прописываешь его как артефакт

И всё

[summer stream]

Там хуже

[green topaz]

так да. но заморочисто. я нашёл мод. попробую конечно если что сделаю как ты сказал

[green topaz]

я это тоже слышал только в адрес гаммы. я соблюдаю нейтралитет. сборки есть сборки. у всех разные вкусы.

[slow bolt]

bosspack lmao

[green topaz]

Просто наблюдал там такую возможность

[kind hull]

[quasi narwhal]

boss can pack deez nuts

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-freaky-mode-thug-zesty-licking-gif-17874267150404318497

[lethal garden]

Quite New to 3DSS, and I DO LOVE to customize Reticles to my liking, now can anyone give me the run-down on what these values mean & change? How do I enable the zoom amount & how do I enable dynamic zoom?

Also, can I simply edit these .dds files in order to change the 3DSS reticle in-game?

[verbal siren]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/15MaqMZlrqsrlGth0t4Y1iL2dFcBnY_j48SSOo0b_mP0/edit?usp=sharing

[drifting moat]

Can I select a UICellContainer cell with code? Given I have the whole instance of the cell want to select.

[drifting moat]

Here's how brother

local selectedCellIndex = self.CC["inventory"]:GetCell_Selected(false).indx

self.CC["inventory"]:On_Select(selectedCellIndex)
self:On_CC_Mouse1("inventory", selectedCellIndex)

[reef crescent]

how does the npc_loadouts chances work?

[fathom wagon]

Depends on which mod is in use or not:

If using the Weighted NPC loadouts mod (currently enabled in GAMMA), the chance is the number of entries that weapon will have in the list for that specific slot in that specific rank's loadout. A weapon will be picked randomly from the entire list of entries. The way you get the true "chance percentage" of the actual weapon is to take the number of entries that gun will have in that loadout slot and divide it by the total number of entries. Not quite that easy when inheritance in thrown in.

If NOT using Weighted NPC Loadouts (vanilla Anomaly/no mod messing with xrs_rnd_npc_loadout.script), here is how a weapon is selected. All weapon entries are put in a list once per entry (duplicate entries will just mean there are two of them in the list). When selecting a weapon, the game will randomly pick an entry, then roll its chance value out of 100 (23 chance value is 23%). If it wins the chance roll, it is the selected weapon. If not, the game picks another weapon entry randomly from the list and rolls the chance again. It will keep doing it until it finds a "winning" weapon. If none is selected, it will then randomly pick an entry in the list and immediately select it.

If using my edited version of NPC Loadouts, the chance threshold is rolled for the entire loadout of the enemy. Then, all weapons that succeed with that threshold will be put into a separate list. Once all the acceptable weapons are put into that list, the game will randomly pick from those acceptable weapons and assign the picked weapon. If no weapons are found (i.e. chance threshold results in an empty separate list), it will pick one weapon randomly from all weapons for that loadout regardless of chance. This is essenitally the non-weighted approach with a bit more uniformity in its loadout creation for all slots + speeds up the loadout creation process in cases where the old loadout script could go through the entire list, have every entry fail, then pick randomly - or just go through a very long list of weapons but only pick near the end of the list.

There is a default value that is used within the loadout script xrs_rnd_npc_loadout.script if no chance value is declared.

[reef crescent]

thanks stranger

[random fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/duke-nukem-dukenukem-mirror-mirro-mirr-gif-1654357508241646683

[fair canopy]

@summer stream which of these do i need to import for the correct model?

[slow bolt]

obj, no?

[summer stream]

obj

obviously

if you need to import models from newer cods you would need a thing called :
cast plugin

[fair canopy]

I thought so, I was just surprised how low poly the model is

[summer stream]

mw3 from 2011

[languid burrow]

Hi all. Is there any way to make IntelliSense in VS Code to work with functions/vars from other *.script files?

E.g.

file1 contains function "foo"

file2 editor suggests this function when you type "file1."

[drifting moat]

Check the very first pin here

[languid burrow]

In a hacky way, this also loads variables, functions, and classes from other scripts into their own namespace - replicating how the engine loads the Lua scripts. In essence, this should allow autocomplete and Go To Definition commands to work on variables referenced from library scripts.

Sound neat, thx. :3

[drifting moat]

Yeah I use it too and it has spared me quite some time. I don't use the auto formatter though.

[lethal garden]

Whatever happened to Jeremussy's thread in Mod-Posting? The one with the Mk-47

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1336703594568749150

found it.,

[rocky basin]

any mod for remplace the vainilla pso1 without eyecup ?

[candid quail]

Omg... Loved Duke Nukem back in the day. Forgot about the mirrors... I was blown away by that new in game technology! Haha

[languid burrow]

Hi. I have an idea of making some kind of a progression overhaul, that will turn a playthrough into a long but rewarding grind. Is there something, that's impossible to implement or just sounds bad?

Progression Overhaul - "Grind Must Go On"

The main idea is to make a completely new progression flow for Anomaly and anomaly-based modpacks. The key difference is that
a new flow will require doing different activities (all of them, not one or two) to earn their specific "resources" and "rating".

Example activities:

• Killing stalkers (looting patches)
• Killing mutants (looting their stuff)
• Artifact hunting
• Questing
• Stash looting (under question, it's boring, quite unrewarding and become even less)
• Scavenging (maybe make looting stashes more rewarding)

NB "realism" is ignored completely. Just pure gameplay.

Activities

Doing activities means gathering corresponding items or increasing statistics and turning items in for "resources" and additional "rating".

Progression flow

Weapons and outfits are divided into N tiers, based on their price + some overrides based on efficiency. Player CAN NOT equip something, that
belongs to locked tiers. This is to make sure, that dropped gear cannot be reused without forcing it to despawn.

Next part is fairly simple: spend "resources" on specific equipment unlocks (tier-based prices) and achieve specific "rating" breakpoint to
unlock next tier. More conditions on tier unlocking can be added. (bounties, quests, etc.) Outfit enhancement (Black Desert Online) system
seems suitable and possible too.

Also, maybe there is the way to implement different tiers for "resources", to force player grind new locations.

Progression motivators

• Most locations are "locked" behind a specific outfit tiers. Maybe the Brain Scorcher system will be reused.
• Additional locking mechanisms can be provided through player stat-checks. (e.g. rad/chem protections)
• In GAMMA, t3 toolkits are locked behind Brain Scorcher deactivation (Radar). t2 toolkit crafting recipe can be removed too.
• To "beat" the game player needs to reach CNPP+ at least. This location can require exo+ tier.

Wow, it supports markdown. Cool

[fair canopy]

3dss already does this

[rocky basin]

Nah i have a visiob like a tunnel

[fair canopy]

Then there's an issue because I removed the eye cups from pso sights

Unless you mean vanilla anomaly

[sudden inlet]

Wish we have same enthusiasm for storyline(s)

[random fulcrum]

oh so it's just living legend but you can't use gear earlier than you're supposed to

[barren spruce]

sup modders

any cool mods lately

[supple raven]

i know of a cool weather mod thats pretty underground that you've probably not heard of yet

@olive cove textures: https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1192574018398715904, hands: https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1241660171361718375, weather: https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1036172060969410590 with https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1370892524750635149,, anomalies: https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1106967346695905320, grass and trees: https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1279805292472832101

[celest forge]

Any monkey with a week and the DLTX guide can make progression changes

Storylines and quests in general are a thing that only like 5 people in the entire modding scene have done

[rocky basin]

Yes i mean anomaly vanilla , how to remov that effect

[novel ruin]

Indoor gunsound go pew pew

[fair canopy]

try asking in the anomaly discord

[main plover]

How to stop stalkers from shootig eachother in test level

[jade oxide]

update, WHEN ? xD

[novel ruin]

Soooooooooooon ™️

[snow salmon]

Hello! What mod is responsible for detecting nearby artifacts with your detector holstered?

[misty mulch]

i mean if you want it to happen hard enough you could do all of this

it's just a lot of work as these things always are

given that this is the gamma server you would also have to fight uphill against everything in the gamma modpack and the decisions being made for it but it's not impossible

[misty mulch]

yup, 100%

[celest forge]

I mean that's the answer to half of the messages here

Everyone has ideas, very few the will to make them tangible

[misty mulch]

ideas are cheap and that's why everyone gets shat on so hard in the suggestions channel

[sinful imp]

Yo, opened up and modeled new room on Bar, everything is good, was made in blender, but from inside it seems like Game thinks that actor is "inside the wall" or "out of bounce" and game unloads meshes/textures of the level outside it, any ideas how to fix it?
Maybe i need to edit some specific mesh with "OB walls" or edit any some kind of config for the map, but i have no clue where to find it and how it named, so i need some help

[drifting moat]

Very few ppl mod/know how to mod maps, so you might be out of luck here. Try posting on anomaly DC too and hope someone can answer it

[sinful imp]

Maybe will be one more soon 😄 but yeah probably need to do it as well. Found few files but which tool/sdk i need to use and where to find/install it i have like zero knowledge right now.

[random fulcrum]

if you become one, document it

[vale latch]

hello, does anyone know where the original anomaly sound effects for the radio are from? i mean like the beeps specificly the one you get after emmision

[drifting moat]

I think that the Anomaly modding book has all the SDK versions listed. Definetly not the "stock" one. Use one that have been patched

[sinful imp]

Yeah, but over all it have no description what which sdk doing and what it is for, if i remember correct it's just list of it and thats it, and if you don't know from the start what every sdk do, you still have nothing, because there is no explanation for people who have no experience at all. This made me mad and i just closed that page because there is like zero useful info and i wasted like few hours reading all that shit just with sdk names, it does not even have links on downloads, so when i tried to look for some of sdk i found nothing or something unrelated in general, so i don't want to download every damn thing and waste like days to understand what is which tool doing, i would rather pay 100$ to actual modder with mapping experience that will spent few hours on me than i will do this trip without knowing if it actually will lead to something or i just will waste my free time, which I have had in short supply for the last couple of years.

[drifting moat]

On this page there are links to all of the mentioned SDKs: https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/modding-tools/index.html

[sinful imp]

Thanks 👍

[quasi narwhal]

i'm pretty sure you're missing portals from a sector to another

though that's only doable via sdk, just not sure how doable due to it being anomaly

[opaque ravine]

is there any mod that narrates the text of a fellow stalker male/female voice for main or side quests?

[misty mulch]

no text-to-speech mod exists to my knowledge, but then, i don't have an amazing comprehensive knowledge of anomaly mods

certainly not one for gamma

[patent remnant]

what file is responsible for the distance at which npc's can hear you walk, sprint, jump, etc?

or can that only be done by script

[sacred token]

This information is stored in the sound files themselves

https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/modding-tools/sdk/sound-editor/sound-editor.html
https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/reference/file-formats/audio-video/ogg.html

[patent remnant]

😮 oh

thank you so much

[sacred token]

Ah here, you would need this program:
https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/modding-tools/audio-video/savandt.html

[fair inlet]

they can't hear scripted sounds though, like jumping

[patent remnant]

so then how would that be changed

in the script?

[fair inlet]

afaik not possible

[patent remnant]

ah ok

[dense comet]

What is Anomaly programmed in? I have many many many great mod ideas and tweaks I want to make but I don’t have too much experience outside of C#

[summer stream]

Lua.

[dense comet]

Well fuck me sideways

I’ll pay for a McDonald’s meal for someone if they make a mod for me, that’s abt as much as im willing to spend

[summer stream]

And how much?
(in rubles, since i suppose ur one)

[misty mulch]

isn't the engine C++ but scripts are in Lua

[summer stream]

also true

[dense comet]

Nah I live in the us, genuinely like 30 dollars as much as I’m willing to spend on modding a video game

[summer stream]

based

[misty mulch]

and configs are in the super special .ltx format which is really just .ini but funny

[summer stream]

ltx is just ini file
but more complex

[drifting moat]

What's the mod idea?

[summer stream]

"more complex"
the complex :
haha i write down k_hit = 10
the bullet doing 10 times more damage with the use of gun
(gun does 50, with the new bullet it does 500)

[misty mulch]

i was thinking about syntax, sections and inheritance but aight

[dense comet]

Got a couple, tweaks to the stealth system to lower aggression and detection if possible, and compensating by adding unique forced dialogue with stalkers when in an enemy base (like them asking who you are and whatnot bad answers get you caught) more immersive ai that can have loners and ecologists and maybe mercs tossing bolts and navigating anomaly fields to find artifacts and actually take an artefact, maybe even a chance of them fucking up and dying, and some other faction specific activities and AI behaviors

No idea if any of this is feasible with the engine or with the other mods already in, I’ve got pretty limited modding experience

Just ideas I’ve had while playing

[dense comet]

Freedomers smoking more often and having visible affects and maybe different dialogue options because of it, dutiers actually tracking and hunting mutants independently, mercs hunting specific stalkers independently including the player if you piss them off (aware this is somewhat a thing but It would be more interesting for it to be more noticeable and more impactful), shit like that

[summer stream]

i think one of the stalkers game had that

[dense comet]

I’d imagine it would suck to implement since anomalies aren’t set in one place permanently, could add boundary zones around all anomalies within a certain distance of an artefact that only stalkers can see, have a % chance of them not seeing it maybe?

No clue what the engine limitations are

Or what’s realistically implementable

Let me know if my ideas are just impossible or ridiculously hard to implement

[misty mulch]

not only are anomalies added by Dynamic Anomalies Overhaul... dynamic... NPC pathing is simply not aware of them at all

and IIRC npc pathing cannot be meaningfully altered

I am not an AI modder but "adding an entire new AI state" seems... complicated, even if it is possible

[drifting moat]

Afaik Ai pathing is "baked" into the map. Not sure if you could finetune their pathing like that through scripts. The engine way would probably be a nightmare to implement

[misty mulch]

yeah what i mean by "npc pathing can't be meaningfully altered" is "changing NPC pathing via map editing is functionally lostech"

tweaks to the stealth system to lower aggression and detection if possible
this ironically is super easy since the entire stealth system is a mod and you can fuck around with its variables in its mod config menu right now

adding unique forced dialogue with stalkers when in an enemy base
this shit seems. extremely difficult

(i am happy to be wrong on that front though)

[drifting moat]

If it's implying that the player has to be stealth for it then I don't think it would be that bad to implement

Would take time and commitment sure

[misty mulch]

but this "different NPCs have different (and completely separately animated) behaviours based on their faction" also seems difficult difficult lemon difficult

[drifting moat]

Yeah that is just not enough bang for a modders buck

We get paid in praise

[misty mulch]

it'd cost you a lot more than $30 i tell you what

[drifting moat]

That's for sure

I will once for fun calculate how much a mod would've costed if I was on the same hourly wage as I'm at my job

[dense comet]

Big text incoming

[drifting moat]

https://tenor.com/view/brace-yourselves-get-ready-hold-on-prepare-yourself-j-jonah-jameson-gif-15506157

[dense comet]

The way I was thinking it was having invisible regions around artifacts that when entered, stalker has a % chance to attempt to grab, pathfinds straight to artefact location, anomalies that spawn have a similar region around them with a % chance to make a stalker throw a bolt at them, if done stalker pathfinds to the artefact around the anomaly, and repeats until a clear path is made or until the check fails and stalker dies. Again if this is not possible or too hard to be done for free, then it’s just that and that stinks. But if you can imagine any possible way something like this could be implemented, that would be awesome

For the NPC faction behaviors, I can think of workarounds for the animations, freedomers being high might be overdose levels and a FEW of them could have a chance to share the idle standing stance or walking animation of zombie stalkers, I believe smoking is already an animation but call me dumbass if not. Dutiers and Mercs hunting would need unique animations though, after spawning a duty patrol with that mission, have them track a random or maybe a certain type of mutant, maybe just go to its location and the AI will kill it naturally, no need for new animations. Same with mercs but would need some tweaking so they aren’t just homing missiles. but again if I’m over ambitious because I don’t know what I’m talking about then that’s just that but I’d LOVE to see any possible way for something like this to be implemented, sadly I am not experienced enough with lua and not rich enough to force this to work

[random fulcrum]

i could not ask for money directly for my mods

shit just attacks my moral compass on a soul level

worst i've done was putting a kofi link at the very bottom of my shit in moddb but just as a text link, almost so that people miss it on purpose

[novel ruin]

Acctually there is a mod that said to do that, npc walk around anomalies.
Unfortunately, its pretty bad for performance and released in only 1 version and the author begin to archive it and hide it out of existence, not sure what happened there

[dense comet]

Idea was to take some features and add new ones to compensate but I get what your saying

[misty mulch]

i mean the simple way to break this down is to think about, "how many different skillsets will I need"? and this one needs, minimum, pretty comprehensive Anomaly modding knowledge (specifically around AI pathing and NPC creation, and AI pathing is extremely difficult for all the reasons relayed above) + Lua knowledge + knowledge of how to make animations and implement them

[dense comet]

But again I have no fucking clue what I’m talking about when it comes to technical shit I just have ideas

[novel ruin]

Its hard, shrimple as that

[misty mulch]

it's extremely fucking hard

[novel ruin]

@dense comet i can send a link to this mod if i can found it, you maybe test it and revert engineer it to make a better version?

[misty mulch]

the "achievable by a novice" version of your ideas is "tweak stealth system detection and aggression values"
the "full picture" you are painting is "hire an animator, learn Lua, possibly create a completely new system for Anomaly NPC interactions with anomalies" at a really quick minimum

[dense comet]

Man I’ve got about a year and a half of c# lessons and a grand total of zero real world experience, I could not do that

[random fulcrum]

that's hilarious

cause xray is c++

not c#

and despite their similar name they're like absolutely nothing alike

[misty mulch]

i get that we all start somewhere but you 100% need to scale it way the fuck back

[dense comet]

Oh I completely understand this is not novice shit at ALL, all I wanted to know is if my ideas are somewhat possible, again I can see some workarounds for the animation shit but I get that this is way way over ambitious and would require multiple people on a payroll

[dense comet]

I’m aware, I didn’t know before I started learning that c# isn’t used for mods and games nearly as much as other languages…

Thanks for the talk tho yall

[random fulcrum]

but hey it works for you if you ever decide to go to gzdoom

zscript is super comfy if you know c#

[novel ruin]

@dense comet ok found it https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/demonized-exes-mobsanomaliesinteraction-v10beta . It seem like the uploader just stole some code from osge and port it into Anomaly

[dense comet]

I’m doing pilot stuff now, completely dropped programming after hearing some of the terrible terrible shit that’s happened to people in that field

[drifting moat]

I'm a C# dev, so that sounds dreamy

[random fulcrum]

yeah true

shit like being completely replaced as a junior by the cult of the machine

but i'm not going down that tangent this time

[drifting moat]

But I was taken hostage by this anomaly thing

[dense comet]

@misty mulch thanks for the words and for being patient and not being a dickhead about this, rlly appreciate it

[misty mulch]

i feel it's a deep irony that the majority of the kinds of mods people would like to make for gamma, are always some of the hardest shit to do on a technical level

sooooo yeah

[dense comet]

It seems like now my mission is to get 90 thousand dollars from somewhere to get this done….

[misty mulch]

i mean on the plus side you can do a LOT with scripts and configs alone, just not... that

[novel ruin]

This is the closest thing to real AI improvement and its archived after 2 version

[dense comet]

Well all the shit that isn’t technically challenging is probably already there and made somewhere

[dense comet]

I’ll see if it works at all. When I’m home

[dense comet]

Pretty much all of the ideas I have for mods are something impacting ai behavior…. Honestly i don’t see many other improvements that I’d want in anomaly/gamma at all other than that and bugfixes its already a damn good “product”

[misty mulch]

you'd be surprised, a good chunk of the mods i've made for gamma are "shit that people constantly complain about in newbies-chat/stalker-chat/suggestions channel, which i know i could do"

[random fulcrum]

and is that deterring you from doing it by yourself as a learning experience

[misty mulch]

that too, just do it anyway to learn how to

[random fulcrum]

why would i ever get into doing anything if there's this guy that does it better than me

what the fuck

[drifting moat]

You can send me mod ideas any day. If I like them I do it for free

[random fulcrum]

me too really i need the spark to come back to anomaly

[dense comet]

No, what’s deterring me is I don’t have much time these days to learn something this technical, especially when the careers for it are going downhill and it’s for a hobby

[random fulcrum]

brother i got into modding as a hobby

[misty mulch]

i learned python for this shit

also how to use github

[drifting moat]

Most of my mods (if not every single one of them) were made in response to many ppl complaining about stuff (rightuflly)

[dense comet]

If I think of any that aren’t major AI overhauls I’ll send em

[misty mulch]

also lua honestly

[novel ruin]

Make working APC now

[random fulcrum]

i can say this only about the stats mod and the jam display patch

[dense comet]

I’m DEEP into airforce pilot career path now, not in there yet but my life revolves around it. I don’t have much time for hobbies other than gamma, already only get abt 1-2 hours a day to play. If I was 2 years younger or 5 years down my career path then I’m sure I could

[novel ruin]

Super related, engine modding required you to have some brain cell in github, i cant believe how many time i bothered mrDemonized because i press the wrong button

[misty mulch]

oh lol no i learned it to PR GAMMA

[dense comet]

Actually I do have an idea for better weapon malfunctions, but that’s more of an animation problem I believe

If that’s something you’re able to do

[misty mulch]

my wheelhouse is almost entirely XML/LTX and some very light Lua, making the simple ammo stat display mod was maybe my most involved Lua project ever (and that was almost entirely copy pasting momo/artiballs scripts)

[random fulcrum]

adding more misfire states wouldn't even be difficult really

[novel ruin]

I think it would be the same

[random fulcrum]

but you just don't have the animations

[dense comet]

Not even adding more, just improving the way malfunctions work and the way they look right now

[random fulcrum]

???

[misty mulch]

i mean if you take this as your queue to become a new up and coming animator

no one ever says no to another good animator

[random fulcrum]

yeah really

oh i know

it's because most misfires are represented as failures to eject

but misfires get rolled before the weapon is shot

that's what bro is referring to

i'm betting my ass on this

(which circles back into being just an animation problem)

[drifting moat]

Steal this

[random fulcrum]

only if a command block is added

i have a lot of shit on hold that i have notes for

[novel ruin]

Does it fire actor_on_weapon_fire callback though?

[random fulcrum]

it should question mark

i don't really remember

last time i looked at that part of the source code was like a year ago

[novel ruin]

If not i think it pretty hard to detect missfire if there isnt a function bultin for it

[dense comet]

Feels like weapon jams rn are kind off a complete afterthought, would like to see them need a littleeee bit more work to deal with. Like in tarkov you never accidentally clear your weapon, it’s a deliberate decision while in stalker it’s just “r r r r r r” and half the time I clear hand on accident. Pumpshotguns having a failure to eject is silly, especially when the shell pops up on the screen before even getting shot…. And a maintained weapon having a 0% chance to fail is also pretty silly to me. I’d also like to see different types of weapons having different reliability rates that are more accurate to the weapon, like an m249 jamming more often than an AK, even when maintained. Some more malfunction states would be nice too

[random fulcrum]

could snipe an lmb press that didn't deduct any ammo

you can also snipe animations

[dense comet]

If I get more time I probably will instead of doing programming again

[random fulcrum]

it was animations

clockwork

[drifting moat]

Plus RN there's a bug with jams. You can shoot the instant you started clearimg the jam

[random fulcrum]

and the fact that gamma has reload and unjam on the same key

[dense comet]

I said it was already before I sent that

[drifting moat]

This might be ficed on DEV2

[dense comet]

Re binding it would probably help a bit, but still would like some more deliberate action

[novel ruin]

I mean you can go to the framework route like me. Make a framework that allow people to do it, and expect somebody else to implement it and make animations for them.
Though 1 thing, you have to make it good and worth it for others to spend times on your mod

[random fulcrum]

like... pressing its own button to clear?

how do you get more deliberate than that

i don't think anyone would like gta cheat typing "CLEARTHATJAM"

[drifting moat]

Random trivia questions/math problems pop up and you need to solve them

[random fulcrum]

that reminds me that i have a gta cheat framework in the freezer

[misty mulch]

also then you gotta write documentation and that is rarely what modders love to do

(it's me i'm the documentation freak)

[dense comet]

This doesn’t work for failure to eject, but maybe something like tarkov where you have to investigate the jam first? Now that I’m thinking abt that more that’s kind of silly tbh, instinct with a jam IRL if it’s a misfire or
Any other jam is just “pull slide/charging handle back” and that reflects in gamma animations already. But having the default key not be the same as reload would go a long way for this.

[random fulcrum]

i documented my recoil mod very thoroughly

[random fulcrum]

oh okay so it was animations AND adding more states

i was right on the money

that's crazy

[dense comet]

I assume specific part malfunctions would be too complex? Like a poorly maintained extractor making you have a higher chance of specifically having a chance to fail to eject/feed? then again that’s an animations + lua problem….. lot of work probably

[dense comet]

Nooo I said it was silly to have that after I thought about it again. Just the rebinding is fine

[drifting moat]

It's very easy to check the condition of a weapon part and make your gun go no pew pew

[drifting moat]

This is your most reasonable idea yet! Keep going

[dense comet]

Is it fine to have to correlate to that part though? Bad firing pin = misfire, extractor = failure to feed and eject, bad trigger = misfire and shit like that? Absolutely 0 clue how misfires work functionally no clue if you could implement that

And again, would require an animator

And a LOT of animations since there’s a lot of guns

[drifting moat]

That would be a cool gimmick. It would need .ltx (basically config files for stuff), some fairly simple Lua and animations

[dense comet]

Would be finicky with externally added guns not from GAMMA as well I think? Unless they share animations

[novel ruin]

Idk, if you spent a lot of times to do the framework and doesnt document for people to use them then youre just wasting a lot of your time here, for me its extremely stupid not to do it.

Also, i think if it would be implemented probably, its probably just apply another param in the weapon ltx config for the animation so it wouldnt be so complicated for the user.

[drifting moat]

It wouldn't work

You would have to edit so many animations for this

[dense comet]

So is this something you’re interested in? I got a crisp McDonald’s happy meal with your name on it….

[drifting moat]

I'm neck deep in projects unfortunately

[dense comet]

Awh man

[drifting moat]

I can add it to my backlog

[dense comet]

Is animating something you do as well? This is a LOT of animation work, lots of different types of guns

[drifting moat]

No I would never

I just hurt keyboard and it gives me mods

[dense comet]

I’d assume most the AKS and M4s could share animations but all the different types of shotguns, bullpups, unique riffles and all that bullshit sounds like pain

[drifting moat]

Nope

[dense comet]

Really? How come?

[random fulcrum]

cyrillic runes dude the type of guy to complain about the dual berettas in counter strike not being true akimbo

[drifting moat]

AFAIK every gun needs to be animated separately. If a gun has 2 variants one with scope and one without those need to be animated separately

[novel ruin]

3klikphillips ?

[dense comet]

Jokes on you I don’t like akimbo stuff

[dense comet]

Forgive my lack of technical language but…. There’s no “copy and paste” animations onto a gun?

[novel ruin]

Nah you can use the same animation for multiple weapon, it will work fine, the scope part for 3dss is mainly using reposition and not a separate animation

[dense comet]

Like for an AK if your reaching under to pull the charging handle to clear a jam I don’t see why you couldn’t use the same animation with or without a scope…

[drifting moat]

Turns out you can

[novel ruin]

Also stupid question but have you ever use math.clamp in your mod?

[dense comet]

So what you’re saying is if we find an animator who’s masochistic enough… my idea may work?

[drifting moat]

I don't know the technical mumbo jumbo on the animation system limitations. @fair canopy and @celest forge can tell you more

[drifting moat]

I saw that argument

I actually have no Idea if I used simply clamp or math.clamp

[novel ruin]

I would say it hard, because not everyone like it and not everyone spend times to make something for your mod. Unless you make it extremely good.

[drifting moat]

Well guess I do because math.clamp doesn't exist apparently

[random fulcrum]

which clamp works depends on your standing with the sun

sometimes just clamp works

sometimes it's _g.clamp

[dense comet]

I don’t think I’m capable of thinking of a simple mod

[random fulcrum]

that's too bad

why not start by trying

[novel ruin]

So i used math.clamp and its absolutely fine for me but some dude in internet crashed because math.clamp dont exist on his computer for some fucking reason

[drifting moat]

I want to make a mod where you're just like a barkeep or a shitty trader

[dense comet]

There’s not much simple stuff I want changed, I heckin love gamma as is man

[drifting moat]

You told that to the wrong person

[dense comet]

I would love to be a trader lmao, think Sid would put a mission on my head

[drifting moat]

Sid would immediately get a panic attack

[random fulcrum]

local fuck_clamp = clamp and clamp or (_g.clamp and _g.clamp or (math.clamp and math.clamp or nil))

[novel ruin]

Beautiful

[drifting moat]

This fucking syntax when I started Lua and saw it in the code I was so damn confused

[random fulcrum]

same really

my brain then started replacing and and or with ? and :

[novel ruin]

Same though now im spamming it like maniac, saved you some if and then

[drifting moat]

Yeah it's a "meta" thing

I love using it too

[random fulcrum]

and is finding a game good as is dissuading you from being creative

i find gamma to be good

despite what everyone says about me

the game is fine

that didn't stop me from making mods

like in all honesty to me it all reads as "i just DO NOT want to get into modding, but i won't say that i don't want to get into modding"

[drifting moat]

Same. Would be even more cursed honestly with that syntax. If you also include null coalescing

[novel ruin]

Modding is a good middle ground for creating good stuffs than wasnt require a lot of work like make an entire game. I like it

[dense comet]

Thinking realistically…. This might be kind of boring after the novelty wears off no? Unless you have to manage relations with stalkers and whatever and source the supply yourself? Feels like it would be a whole different game lmao

I don’t think any other trader sources their own shit tho unless u can give stalkers tasks to get you shit from the zone and then sell it for more than the task price

[drifting moat]

Depends on mechanics. Would be insane amounts of work

[dense comet]

Lord let me get rich soon so I can pay anomaly modders to make the greatest game of all time….

[random fulcrum]

i'm at a loss for words at this point

[novel ruin]

Most of them dont even play Anomaly anymore so dont expect much . Somes just like to make their own things like ASHES doing crysis in Stalker rn

[drifting moat]

If I would have a dev studio I would totally make a game with the mechanics that make gamma great

Different setting though

[dense comet]

MAGA make anomaly great again

[random fulcrum]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1251678062215561277

[drifting moat]

Would have attachments like this

How cool is this shit

A magazine attachment

With an auto loader for a single shot shotgun

And it makes cool as fuck sounds when you "rack" it

[novel ruin]

Grave digger, my beloved, type shit

[dense comet]

Under barrel fat man attachment when?

[random fulcrum]

there was also that one time i reimplemented bleed almost in its entirety just to make it similar to that of hunt showdown

i love doing extreme gimmicks that nobody asked for

[drifting moat]

Ever worked with others?

I like the rogue modding too, but I love teamwork

[random fulcrum]

closest to it was with the recoil mod technically

[drifting moat]

Especially when ppl have different responsibilitied

I would love to make something bigger, but time constricts me. Don't want to spend 2 months developing a mod

I have a storyline I want to make, but have so many other things planned before that

[novel ruin]

Kinda, sound designers like my mod and testing it a lot so he kinda helped me. But im still on my own here, and I like it, Im not very good at catching someone else pace and I dont want anyone to catch mine as well because mine is kinda random

[drifting moat]

Mine too. One day I literally code for 12 hours. Then I don't even touch a computer for the next 2 days

[solid spoke]

where can i learn how to make mods?

[misty mulch]

Check pins here. If you are more specific about the type of mod or what you want to do, ppl can help more

[dense comet]

Please learn to animate irs ur destiny rn

/j

[celest forge]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-my-honest-reaction-uh-what-googly-moogly-gif-10786041397153838213

[dense comet]

I shall summarize big man

Can certain weapon malfunctions be tied to the state of different weapon parts? (Bad extractor = fail to feed/extract bad firing pin = misfire and such)

[celest forge]

Right now no, theres a single unjam animation

[dense comet]

Is it funtionly possible is what is asking

Functionally

With the animations set up

All 9500 of them

[celest forge]

Thing is individual part condition is a WPO thing

[dense comet]

And is it possible to make jams trigger after firing instead of before

[celest forge]

So I dont think animation scripts account for that

[dense comet]

My hopes and dreams

[celest forge]

I mean what was your end goal

[dense comet]

More variety in jams and stop the silly ass jams that occur, also more deliberate jam clearing

Failure to eject on a pump shotgun without even firing a round….

With just a bad trigger

[celest forge]

That would require completely reanimating the guns you want those on

[dense comet]

I’m aware it would be a massive animation project, just didn’t know if the technical side was possible tying those animations to individual weapon components

[celest forge]

With custom scripts, probably

But that would also require a minor rework of WPO probably

[dense comet]

So I need a good scripter and a masochistic animator? Say no more ugly man I have a job to do

Thank
You sir