╙🖇mods-making-discussion

[quasi lagoon]

Hey y'all, I am not a huge fan with the new armor and artifact changes. Would there ever be a way/mod to return the old changes?

[slow nexus]

i opened visual studio fixed the includes now i cant be fucked and im just brainrotting youtube shorts

just wild that we are missing out on reverb delay sound occlusion etc

[regal bolt]

after looking at the anomaly modding book my respect for the modders has risen ten fold and my hopes of creating a mod have diminished to 0 😂

[slow nexus]

cant you just open sorting plus and like

change a thing

oh its written out as types

[regal bolt]

its all too far beyond what my dumb brain can handle unfortunately will just leave it to the pros

[deep galleon]

here is the patch that the mod provides for BaS

some will have the firepoint values, most doesn't

[celest forge]

One fire point is for the hud value and the other for the world model value

[ashen cliff]

Guys is there a way to increase a drop chance for a specific item. For example a grenade or scopes?

[misty mulch]

grenades i think is more possible now with SD's new weighted NPC loadout script

scopes? if you want more of an individual scope to drop - short answer is "no"

you're better off making it more common from stashes or just buying it off vendors

scope drop essentially rolls a random chance for the gun dropped to have a scope, and the scope is then randomly selected from the pool of "every single scope the gun can possibly take". SD has improved things such that there is now a per-gun scope blacklist. But still no way to manipulate the % of a specific scope being dropped alongside all guns that could take that scope.

[outer mason]

Where would you go to look for .xml file for the watch "use" function?

[feral coral]

do you guys know why is FactionPrototypes.cfg completely empty, is it a placeholder or incomplete dev?

[covert pivot]

#╟⚒stalker2™-mods-making-discussion

[feral coral]

oops, sry, missed the stalker2 prefix

[outer mason]

I want to edit that text. I imagine there is a script (something like "get time > display using string" kind of thing), but I am guessing it uses xml file for text? Or maybe it is purely a script? Is that modded in gamma or is that vanilla anomaly thing?

[covert pivot]

i think its vanilla anomaly

[outer mason]

That is my guess as well, but where would you go looking for it?

[covert pivot]

probably xmls, thats usually where any translated text is held

[outer mason]

I am unpacking scripts db atm. But I think there must be xml file as well... right?

[covert pivot]

xml files are in configs

[outer mason]

I know. I very brifly looked through those, but nothing seem to be refering to it by name.

I found watch in trash items, but it's just it's description

[covert pivot]

its in itms_manager.script

    local Y, M, D, h, mint, sec, ms = game.get_game_time():get()
    local pharse = game.translate_string("st_dyn_news_day_part_am")
    local mints = tostring(mint)
    if (h > 12) then
        h = h - 12
        pharse = game.translate_string("st_dyn_news_day_part_pm") 
    elseif (h == 12) then
        pharse = game.translate_string("st_dyn_news_day_part_pm") 
    elseif (h == 0) then
        h = 12
    end
    if (mint < 10) then
        mints = "0" .. tostring(mint)
    end
    utils_xml.hide_menu()
    actor_menu.set_msg(1, tostring(h) .. ":" .. mints .. " " .. pharse , 3)
end```

here you see the translation string it uses from xmls too

tho vanilla anomaly doesnt seem to use the same text

it uses AM/PM as text

[outer mason]

Does it? IDK. I think I tried it once and I don't think I used watch in it.

[outer mason]

Because if it did it would be much better

[covert pivot]

atleast this script seems to be like this

[outer mason]

I never used this language but this part seems to build the message string right?:
actor_menu.set_msg(1, tostring(h) .. ":" .. mints .. " " .. pharse , 3)

[covert pivot]

vanilla anomaly its like

so something in gamma is changing this

[covert pivot]

and yes

[outer mason]

Then gamma has to change it... or there is an option in settings?

[covert pivot]

its mod 124 Nitpickers Modpack in gamma. it has script ish_read_watch.script

[outer mason]

Why would it though... it's perfect... and GAMMA has weird stuff like half to five. And I don't mind description but in Ireland where I live (not my native country or language though) you simple say half four

[covert pivot]

i think it tries to use ukrainian standards for it

[outer mason]

Anyway, thank you a lot. I think I can take it from here.

[covert pivot]

you can just make your own mod in gamma that replaces that script file with a blank one and it should use vanilla anomaly method

[outer mason]

yeah, kinda feels like it does in Polish as well, but when it's in english... it just grates on me and is hard to read.

[outer mason]

Or just edit the one there is and remove it's guts 😛

[covert pivot]

if you make your own then you wont need to change it again when you update gamma

[outer mason]

Cheers.

[outer mason]

Just to make sure, I will make empty file with the same name and structure and place it at the end of the load order?

And it should revert to vanilla anomaly?

[covert pivot]

yea

you can double check after that its your mod name heere

or just test in game

[outer mason]

Is this very short hand for a loop?
local format = chunks[chunk]

[covert pivot]

no

thats retrieveing a value with key chunk from map chunks

[outer mason]

Is "map" not a list basically?

[covert pivot]

pretty much

[outer mason]

that you iterate through with a loop to get it's value?

[covert pivot]

its direct access of list element basically

[outer mason]

oh... neet

[covert pivot]

in lua I think lists/arrays and maps/tables are pretty much the same, since it just mean you have a table of
1 -> <value one>
2 -> <value two>
etc

[outer mason]

My brain itch xD And I just edited his format a bit. So, it should read a bit better for me.

Already looks a bit better.

[simple scaffold]

tables with number indexes starting at 1 and going continuously to n are called "array like" and have optimizations and special support. so using array like tables is faster than using a genric keytable.

[cyan trench]

I have a probably very dumb question but

I have a profile called gamma custom. wtf is it?

is that supposed to be there, I couldnt find it in faq

idk if I fucked up or smthn

[misty mulch]

You made it at some point to preserve a custom modlist.

[cyan trench]

damn...welp ima remove it and all will be okay?

[misty mulch]

Yeah

[tropic anchor]

y

[ashen cliff]

Sry, just saw your reply. Ty for the answer

[spring comet]

I saw in some of the weapons dltx that has "hud_fov = x number like 0.6, 0.78, etc", what exactly do?

[misty mulch]

sets your hud fov when you equip 'em

allegedly anyway

xray being xray/gamma being what it is, i'm open to learning "oh random mod xyz or ackshually obscure game setting whatever-the-fuck overrides that entirely"

[spring comet]

thanks

[random crow]

Noob modder here, I'm working on my first Stalker mod (gun mod), and I'm just kinda poking around the .ogf's and animations to get the lay of the land, and I feel like I missing a key limitation as to why it's done this way, but here it is:

Why is it that modded guns have a HUD mesh for every possible scope combination? Does applying a scope physically change which mesh the game calls for the HUD model? And why isn't this trend carried forward with suppressors and UBGL's?

[naive snow]

For scopes yes, the UBGL and suppressorts are just hidden on every model until you attach one basically

[fair canopy]

120 meshes for every scope/silencer/gl combo

Probably more

No one would want to make guns if that was the case

[naive snow]

So you have a world model, the model that is dropped on the ground and on gun racks.
The hud model of no scope + every other scope.
All of these models have the silencer and UBGL always on the gun, just hidden

So 5 different scopes would be 6 models + a world model

Every gun (or nearly every gun) has a bone for the silencer and one for the UGBL, those bones are hidden by the engine

[random crow]

Gotcha. I had read about the World vs Hud models, so that's a bridge to cross at some point as well. I need to look at animations in depth, as I'm not dead set on UBGL compatibility (effort/skill vs time), but I'm guessing there's probably a whole other set of anims for UBGL's to modify the left hand position + UGBL specifc anims?

[naive snow]

Correct

Example of adding a UGBL to the AK74m beard

and of course you need to add the UGBL to all the possible models

[random crow]

I never played vanilla anomaly, I assume the GP-25 and M203 are native to it, is the M320 also an anomaly GL or is a mod?

I come from Tarkov modding, so I guess the concept of creating something vs having to piggyback and hijack scripts and other things our SDK's didn't have is how I look at stuff.

[misty mulch]

M320 is from Boomsticks and Sharpsticks mod

[random crow]

[covert pivot]

Instead of doing portraits or making new meshes for dux its time to go and fix old stuff

[summer stream]

https://tenor.com/view/brilliant-i-like-this-top-gear-jeremy-clarkson-richard-hammond-gif-18951630

[covert pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/stalker-monolith-ryan-gosling-cold-falling-snow-gif-7493567383040129594

[random fulcrum]

make the remaining 3000 portraits now

[covert pivot]

ill do that after the 3000 models

[summer stream]

https://tenor.com/view/is-this-information-legit-gif-9202849568376436420

[covert pivot]

will be done by like 2026

the portraits are nice tho, to actually see who you have to kill before accepting a task

etc etc

ill see, new portraits will be different anyway because of sss22 now

[timber basin]

is it possible to revert companion recruit condition to "friendly relation and at most 1 rank above yourself"?

[slow bolt]

revert? they always had to be same rank or below

[timber basin]

i remember it being not that way, and it was the way it was like in the guide

this "you have to be 1.5x the companion's rank to recruit them" is all new to me

[covert pivot]

Best i can do is fix 3 portraits and make a lot of them actually discernable in game too #1309295776664387694 message

[slow bolt]

hmm

[formal vector]

Hi sorry if it's not the appropriate channel, anyone knows if there a mod I could use to disable the blur/dizziness effects that comes with being **slightly **thirsty/hungry? Cause I can understand why it's here when I'm very thirsty/hungry, but blurred vision for being 300ml of water thirsty, it's kinda meh... annoying even. Thanks 🙂

[sweet garnet]

Does anyone have the Arrival mod installed with their gamma? Is it a simple instal or will I fuck up my shit if im new ?

[quasi narwhal]

#🔨modded-gamma-support

[quasi narwhal]

#╟🔰☢newbies-chat

or just #🔨base-gamma-support

[hasty tiger]

anyone can give me clear .7zip of 438 Sights and Optic Retexture by Meowio? My GAMMA installer downloaded it badly, and it cracked

[timber basin]

this is... probably an incredibly ratchet way to go about it

[acoustic lodge]

Hi, is it possible to change the trader tables so that as my reputation goes up there will be more items items avaliable for me?

For example at sidorovich lvl 1 he sells me 3 breads but at lvl2 he sells me 6 breads?

[naive snow]

It's already the case for some items like Ammo according to your shop level

[sweet garnet]

Does the base gamma game not have zone reality re tecture?

[misty mulch]

hey got a question about how the game displays stats in the UI ( ) In the following entry in the outfit stats table, what does magnitude mean?

["radiation_protection"] = { 
  index=  50, 
  typ= "float",
  name= "ui_inv_outfit_radiation_protection",
  icon_p= "ui_am_propery_09",
  icon_n= "",
  track= false,
  magnitude= (100/SYS_GetParam(2,"actor_condition","radio_zone_max_power")),
  unit= "st_perc", 
  condition= true, compare= false, sign= true, show_always= true,
  value_functor= {"utils_item","get_outfit_protection", "Radiation"}
}

i know how to calculate it, just unsure what it does

[random fulcrum]

it's by what number the ui script multiplies the value it reads

like if magnitude=100 then the tooltip will read as x*100

[slow bolt]

no. Also go to #╟🔰☢newbies-chat

[sweet garnet]

🫡

[spice flame]

im having a difucult time choosing the best mods for realism, any recomendations?

[true island]

want to modify some bounty squad params, looking for config file. somebody know what exactly db contrains it? bounty_squad.ltx

[covert pivot]

any ltx stuff is in configs db

[true island]

and if i unpack the file and leave it in anomaly folder with same path it had in db0 it will override archived one right?

found tho, ty

[covert pivot]

yea anything in the gamedata folder will overwrite db stuff

[tropic radish]

Is there a resource for adding tracks to the ambient musics list? Not the in-game or PDA stations, but the actual BGM either through a separate mod or by adding tracks to an existing one.

[fair canopy]

Not that I know of. But it's not too hard looking at the configs.

[fair canopy]

Try this mod. It adds a bunch of imo good ambient music. I've customized it to remove a lot of the music I didn't feel fit but it's a good starting point imo

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1160009156145729606

[tropic radish]

Cool cool, i'll give that one a look and poke around some configs of existing mods, thanks. Wasn't sure how track queueing was handled or if it even is, but i'm guessing it's in .ltx somewheres

[hazy tundra]

Anyone know what section (in the Anomaly base files) "actor_hud_loner_sunrise" is in? Don't want to unpak the whole lot

Or any of the "actor_hud..." files rather

[faint sable]

you need to use a db extractor to extract that content

otherwise you won't find anything besides just a db folder

[hazy tundra]

Yarp, just hoping to narrow down which to unpak

[faint sable]

you'd unpack the "meshes" folder

to find the huds

specifically meshes_actor I believe, but best to extract them all imo in meshes folder

best to use AXR Toolset off github and use the DB tool to unpack it to your desktop

[hazy tundra]

Ayeaye!

[random crow]

speaking of looking at models, what's the difference/significance of the weapon ogf's with the SK suffix in the file name?

[fair canopy]

alternate of that weapon

[random fulcrum]

yes custom map yes

[fair pollen]

[tropic shadow]

Hey folks, Is it possible to swap which visual model a suppressor adds to a weapon model via a simple .ltx edit? Both the 9mm Aug and the Vz.61 use the "9mm suppressor". I'm hoping to use the model visible on the Aug for the Vz. if its not just baked into the .ogf

[random fulcrum]

it is just baked to the .ogf

[supple crag]

What is that mod that makes it so people won't kill opposing factions in the bar and stuff?

Or skadovsk like in CoP

[bold mural]

is the current debug map hud from a mod or was it a base anomaly change (my base anomaly crashes when i try launch it so i can't check....)

[acoustic lodge]

under what faction doe butcher go?

[simple scaffold]

Teader

[bold mural]

nvm

on the map thing

[outer mason]

Is there anyway to change Autolooter to any other keys than L-Shift/Alt/Ctrl? I tried editing scripts, I tried all the keys I can think of, but only those three work... and they have very conflicting functionalities tied to them already.

Or more broadly is there a way to use any other keys while inventory of any type is open for functionalities other than those three mentioned above.

Ctrl by default is the key to check full stats and as far as I can tell can not be rebind, so I want to compare stats when inv is open, I will pick up all the stuff from the stash.

Shift is move button, so when you want to move one item you will instead always pick up all the items.

Alt is hard bind to Hold to dismantle which is a must have option for me as I dismantled by accident more stuff than I care to remember. So, when I want to dismantle something inside the stash or in my inventory when stash is opened, I pick up all the stuff from it.

[normal raft]

I'm not sure what mod added the Mauser 7.92 mm but unless I missed something, cannot attach a scope, and that is a tragedy of justice... just saying

[summer stream]

@naive snow question to textures, does it look like better this way(first image) or this way(second image)?

[outer mason]

Oddly enough Shift-T is default Anomaly I believe. Which means you can make key combinations. And I guess it would require script of some sort for Auto Looter.

Something like:
if key == DIK_A and DIK_B? Maybe instead of key press I would need to change it to key_hold?

[summer stream]

comparing it with metallic map :

[outer mason]

Like the comment states this is just a default setting for MCM right?:

-- Default config
config = {
remote_looting_distance = 0,
proximity_looting_distance = 0,
proximity_looting_refire_time = 2,
looter_key = DIK_keys.DIK_LMENU,

So, the MCM menu option is set here?:

op = {
id = "auto_looter", sh = true, gr = {
{id = "banner", type = "slide", size = {512, 50}, link="AL_Banner_Blackgrowl.dds", spacing = 20},
{id = "base_description", type = "desc", text="ui_mcm_auto_looter_base_description"},
{id = "looter_key_title", type = "desc", clr = {200, 200, 255, 200}, text="ui_mcm_auto_looter_looter_key_title"},
{id = "looter_key_description", type = "desc", text="ui_mcm_auto_looter_looter_key_description"},
{id = "looter_key", type = "key_bind", val = 2, def = config.looter_key},
{id = "remote_looting_title", type = "desc", clr = {200, 200, 255, 200}, text="ui_mcm_auto_looter_remote_looting_title"},
{id = "remote_looting_description", type = "desc", text="ui_mcm_auto_looter_remote_looting_description"},
{id = "remote_looting_distance", type = "track", val = 2, min = 0, max = 50, step = 0.5, def = config.remote_looting_distance},

With this line specifically?:

{id = "looter_key", type = "key_bind", val = 2, def = config.looter_key},

If I could only add thatAlt is simply a modifier like in Ammo check for example.

[cinder finch]

Hey!

Need help installing these mods.
I know how to Install them in the Mod Organizer, but where to place them.
I installed Adega and placed it between two mods, Maid's and Grok's.... and Particles Cinematic....*
No I didn't merge them, Yes I installed the sky too.

[slow bolt]

Dont use youtube guides

and go to #╟🔰☢newbies-chat

[cinder finch]

I asked from there and got sent here

[cinder finch]

I asked from there and got sent here

[naive snow]

I'm guessing I'm looking at a bump map here?
Hard to say with all the channels displayed like that, it's some heavy mental gymnastics. Can you display the channels or show them one by one?

[naive snow]

It's an engine thing that all the other keys are locked when in the inventory. The easiest thing would be to add a second modifier to the safety disassembly key since it's already setup that way

[covert dock]

Is there a way how to further decrease nvg washout with certain sight reticules? I tried to set washout to 0.9 in mcm menu, but its still significant.

[misty mulch]

Do all outfits use the same gamedata\configs\items\outfits\upgrades\upgrade_presets.ltx upgrade tree? If not, where would I look for the rest

[misty mulch]

fortunately i helped redo MCM documentation last year. https://github.com/RAX-Anomaly/Anomaly-Mod-Configuration-Menu/blob/main/README.md#additional-key_bind-information

scroll to the end of this section to see some examples that use modifier keys

[misty mulch]

so it is saying, yes, the default def for looter_key is whatever is in the config.looter_key table-value (bear with me, I don't really do Lua, I learned Python). So by default, config.looter_key = DIK_keys.DIK_LMENU, which is the DIK_key value for "Left Alt". When you change the looter_key keybind in MCM, you change the value of config.looter_key

[covert pivot]

up_* files in the same folder could theoretically make their own sections instead of using stuff from the presets, but thats unlikely

[misty mulch]

oh right

basegame files

[covert pivot]

i havent checked all of them to see if any uses something not from presets

[misty mulch]

[misty mulch]

fuck me

yeah thanks. knew i was overlooking something

[covert pivot]

and from the outfit ltx the
upgrades = up_gr_firstab_sunrise_3, up_gr_seconab_sunrise_3, up_gr_thirdab_sunrise_3
picks which sections from up* files to choose, theoretically they might not all be from same file

[misty mulch]

yep, i know how to check the upgrades from the configs

sigh

time to write a completely new set of python scripts to read waves hands all that shit

oh wait some of the upgrades are mutually exclusive aren't they? fuck

see the easy thing would have been to just sum up the changes to outfit stats provided by the whole tree, and apply them row-wise to my db of un-upgraded outfit stats depending on which update sections they use

but noooo

xray once again said "veer go fuck yourself"

[covert pivot]

writing external tools to help with all the bullshit is nice tho

for Dux's Character Kit I made one to read character_desc_general files into csv's and then back into caracter_desc files, because fuck making sure like 3500 of those new entries are correct by hand

also added entry multiply option now that i used for the more female stalkers thingy, because manually copy pasting entries and counting them is annoying to get rough percentages of entries to be new ones

and also the portrait thing I just have folders of 2K screenshots, and it crops, scales down, adds vignette, scanlines and small amounts of noise and then creates the texture_descr xml file with proper coordinates and stuff for all them

only thing manual there is taking screenshots and then updating character_desc files to use correct portrait, but I do that mostly to find any unused models, I could automate that part too since the portrait names are just ui_d_meshesfoldername_meshname

one thing I want to find a way to do is make it customizable what types of meshes are used how often, because right now every Dux mesh is used once, which makes for weird distribution of NPC armours, but I will likely need to delve into modded exes or some spawning logic that picks the random specific_characters and add configurable logic to the randomness

[summer stream]

all of the rgb channels for the second bump

[summer stream]

first bump

[misty mulch]

aww. if i'd known i would have sent you the .csv from when i did exactly that

[covert pivot]

I was on hiatus for like 3 years

[misty mulch]

i didn't mean to imply that you should have known or anything dw. just that there's definitely a lot of duplication of effort just in trying to figure out which files read what configs, where etc.

and of course being a modpack makes everything exponentially more complicated

[covert pivot]

for what did you mess with character desc files?

[naive snow]

Those speculars maps are looking waaaack

[summer stream]

[naive snow]

Did you just shove the metallic map in there?

[summer stream]

truly i did

[summer stream]

idk what to do since i forgot how to properly shove it in

[naive snow]

You got a roughness map for those guns?

[summer stream]

knife?

i think you forgot WHAT kind of roughness map im working with

[naive snow]

Well whatever the previous texture you just showed me were

[summer stream]

you can look into them yourself if u want

here

also no it DID NOT had this

[naive snow]

This is your roughness channel

Well it's a glossiness channel, but whatever

[summer stream]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

i used it as AO for texture on knife

so red channel should be the blue one, i suppose?

since i lack glossyness dds

[naive snow]

You'd just use the red channel directly to your red channel of your bump

[summer stream]

ah

[naive snow]

You can use a level layer adjustment to fix the values

Since you don't want pure black or pure white

[summer stream]

so something like that?

[naive snow]

I can't unpack a 3 color vector purely in my head

I'd do something like this personnaly

[quasi narwhal]

wdym bro, i thought you had a compiler ready in your head

[summer stream]

oops

wrong

[naive snow]

Haven't gone through the surgery yet for those chip implants

[summer stream]

neuralink

idfk how to do the pictures wrong but eh

shooould be good

[naive snow]

Did you make your adjustment layer only affect the underneath layer?

[summer stream]

mmm

amazing bump

marvelous

2braincells

[naive snow]

Yeah that looks bump-ish

[quasi narwhal]

i'm ngl, i'd love to have the ability to separate RGBA layers and visualize them separately just inside my head

[quasi narwhal]

that's looking great, ship it

[naive snow]

I can kind of do it, but that's just hard 12 years of game dev staring at this shit

[summer stream]

3 bumps

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[naive snow]

But yeah this would be a new age type of shit

[naive snow]

Why the fuck 3

[summer stream]

they are all made in different way

ill do the one you asked me to do

[quasi narwhal]

I wonder if with those Apple glasses goggles futuristic cyberpunk VR-like thingy you could separate them layers and leave them floating around you lol

that'd be kinda sick

[summer stream]

now back to doing sick things called thm

yipee

[naive snow]

I reckon you could, which would be mad, 3 vector split your reality

[summer stream]

why tf 22 files are 114 mb

[quasi narwhal]

are those them dds files?

[summer stream]

yep

[quasi narwhal]

yeah some DDS with mipmaps and all that can be quite heavy on that regard unfortunately, even with compression on top

[summer stream]

let me show

[quasi narwhal]

when I was doing terrain textures like, 4-5 of them was almost 1GB

[summer stream]

sir simple textures to fucking gun is like 180 mb

it's not like im doing 12k textures, right?

[spring mango]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/526435185772724225/1105815681309610005/ezgif-2-b9e8a376f7.gif

[summer stream]

yeah it good

[quasi narwhal]

isn't that like 4k base textures for the gun + the bump maps

if the base texture is 2k then oh well

[summer stream]

let it process

[quasi narwhal]

oh yeah that explains

[summer stream]

hmm

[naive snow]

Mipmaps double the memory and texture space

[summer stream]

ik that from doing ui stuff

[naive snow]

Yeah exporting to 8.8.8.8 with mipmaps is madness

[summer stream]

my gpu is not ok

[quasi narwhal]

also Maka if the texture is in 8k, are you also making 8k bump maps?

cause then an 8k texture with mipmaps + 8k bump map also with mipmaps would explain the 180mb

[summer stream]

looks good but idk what is that thing in the middle

[naive snow]

You fucked up the normal in your bump

[summer stream]

https://tenor.com/view/deadpan-thousand-yard-stare-funny-bruh-really-gif-2776150239966197556

how tf

[naive snow]

The blue channel is probably inverted

[quasi narwhal]

this is the bump of that knife right?

[summer stream]

yes

[quasi narwhal]

the blade seems to be cut in half on the texture, and the upper part is slightly greener than the bottom one if you look in the bump here

the bottom part being more yellow would mean it'll reflect more light i believe

[naive snow]

It's a mistmatch of the tangeant space of the normal map applied on the surface normal, I.E the Y channel of the normal map is flipped

[naive snow]

It happens all the time when people move things from one engine to another which uses OpenGL normals vs DirectX normals

[summer stream]

hold on please

[naive snow]

WTF

Why 16k

[summer stream]

you dont need to know

||let the xray engine die||

[naive snow]

My dude's knife is 64 times the size of most guns

[summer stream]

ill have a look into normal

without any edits

hmm..

[naive snow]

Yeah that Y channel is flipped. Open your bump map, invert the blue channel

[summer stream]

the green channel?

[quasi narwhal]

if only people would use my bump map flow on chainner to avoid this

[summer stream]

since i already forgot what the fuck is Y channel

oh wit

[naive snow]

In a bump map the Blue channel (z) is the normal Y

[summer stream]

im retare

did so

[quasi narwhal]

you can also adapt this flow to generate the normals/specular/metallic maps for you

[summer stream]

broke it

[quasi narwhal]

"image processing is using the CPU"

Maka's CPU rn:

[summer stream]

we good

HOLY SHIT THE KNIFE IS SO OILY

yeah i think i fucked up

sec

@naive snow didnt work

idk what did i do wrong

re-did the texture but inverted the Z channel

blue channel :

w/ that re-did the red channel

something TRULY went wrong

still the same..

wtf?

oh fuck no

dont tell me

nvm

cant figure it out

bump is fucked

[naive snow]

Send me the blend file and I'll generate a clean one tonight

[summer stream]

https://tenor.com/view/buckshot-roulette-beer-beer-drinker-drinking-beer-buckshot-gif-3034607698019111057

[tribal aspen]

Red and Green channels in the normal should contain the height data, blue should be white

[summer stream]

just so you know :

[naive snow]

But that's wrong

[summer stream]

these idiots

FUCKING BROKE

THE BUMP ALREADY

[tribal aspen]

They doing something funky?

[summer stream]

truly amazing

it's problem in normal map

[tribal aspen]

[summer stream]

probably from the lack of something, idk which

lemme look at

[tribal aspen]

Oh they do it different here

[quasi narwhal]

read the docs moment

[tribal aspen]

My bad

[summer stream]

something went horribly wrong

[misty mulch]

when i was making my damage simulator, i needed to know which NPC damage profiles were most common/the best way to abstract down NPC dmg and armor profiles, which involved mapping NPC spawns to visual models to bone_profiles

[summer stream]

bruh

how tf did it break

OOOH WAIT

looks like they are separated ones

amazing

and that one specific place just died

man fuck my life

[covert pivot]

that looks like flipped face normal more than anything, but i cant see the solid view just double check that face orientation is all correct

[summer stream]

sir its the normal map problem

[covert pivot]

[naive snow]

Yeah the base face normals are all fine

[summer stream]

im just VERY confused

[covert pivot]

yeah, I did something similar when I was assigning capture profiles to all of Duxs models and trying to keep a similar distribution of captures compared to vanilla anomaly between different npc tiers when putting the models into different tiers

[misty mulch]

sounds about right

anyway the answer for me was "just take the sunrise suit no helmet as the default armor profile"

[covert pivot]

that tracks atleast taking into account total numbers (this was also done before dux added another 1000 models ), but on a median id imagine something more like lcs/ps5/sts since below sunrise you dont actually have that many captures.

[misty mulch]

yeah i only worked w/ total numbers cos my damage sim lets you arbitrarily set the target's faction, and for damage purposes the only factions that matter are monolith, sin, ISG, bandit, everything else

it's not as if the game surfaces visual model to you unless you force it to

[naive snow]

Is that the original model you got or did you modify the mesh in blender like smoothing it?

[summer stream]

original model

i gave you the obj

[full stratus]

Hello, anyone knows which mod brakes lights on Radar like this? How to remove that flickering?

[naive snow]

Found your issue, but it's going to be a fucking pain

[vast plaza]

@Team, What is the name of the text file in which the new inventory stats names are stored (shock cap, ballistic cap, etc.)?

[summer stream]

tell it

[naive snow]

So here's the simple answer: When converting to a bump map, part of the information is lost (that's what the correction of normals is for in the #bump)
The color conversion is just enough to create that issue on the knife. Example:
Top is the source texture you sent over, bottom is the bump. Notice how different the histograms are

Knife with the original texture repacked into a normal

[misty mulch]

!mo2search // ui_st_inventory.xml, use the File Searcher to see which version of that file actually gets loaded

[queen pine]

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[naive snow]

Knife with the bump

[misty mulch]

the "BR Class" text comes from somewhere else tho

[summer stream]

Im ending it all

and so the main question is

how do i make the bump#?

[naive snow]

So if you want to do it correctly. Generate your bump from the SDK which outputs the Bump#

[summer stream]

where do I GET one

and HOW do i make it with use of it

[naive snow]

The Soc 1.6 you can find online. You can use the Lun4t1c video that's often thrown around for the how

[summer stream]

Man

[naive snow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5P5vSD3u1k

[summer stream]

guess i need to do it with every texture from now on

so it doesnt break apart like shit

[naive snow]

Depends on how bad the issue is

[summer stream]

ill just do it

on every

since its the pain I should go through

@naive snow can you send me the bump# for now?

ill get the SDK tmrw

[naive snow]

I'm trying it out, gime a minute

[summer stream]

👍

[vast plaza]

@misty mulchthank you but the names are not included. I know this file and normally you add it there but with the 9.3 update it wasn't entered there and has to be in another file. I don't mean the normal inventory names. I mean the new ones that were added with the new mechanics. Example: Armor stats: ??/65%... now there are items that can increase this limit and you can read in the properties: Ballistic cap +5%

This new eng text file i need.

[misty mulch]

...you mean you want the xml file for the new % based UI?

[misty mulch]

look in GAMMA Accurate Defense Values then

[vast plaza]

@misty mulchmaybe but i think yes.

ok wait.

[misty mulch]

gamedata/configs/text/eng

[vast plaza]

@misty mulchYES, THANK YOU! 👍

[misty mulch]

fyi if you "reply" to my messages it pings me by default

so you don't have to @ me each time

or just type lmao i know what you're talking about

[lilac idol]

https://github.com/iOrange/bumpx try this, takes literal minutes to do a bump# for each texture

[misty mulch]

and this channel is not that active, usually

[vast plaza]

Roger.

[summer stream]

just one problem

i dont have gloss

its just normal

[naive snow]

Just use the specular you put in the red channel

[summer stream]

and what do i do with height?

[naive snow]

Create a blank grey image

[summer stream]

ah, k

[lilac idol]

this is what you were talking about right? i just saw bump# and inmediatly thought of that

[summer stream]

yep

ig cod textures are pretty dumb sometimes

[naive snow]

Try this, made it with bumpX to try

[summer stream]

gonna try it l8

im currently off pc

[summer stream]

also idk if super resolution could be the case of my bump breaking apart

[naive snow]

I'm using 2kx1k so you'll know quickly enough

The color transformation still seems to happen regardless

[summer stream]

and how do i upscale bump#

[naive snow]

It generates the bump# from the base resolution of the maps given, just give it the upsized ones

[naive snow]

I don't even know if it's going to be enough of a fix

[summer stream]

its better than nothing

[naive snow]

True, I'm honestly surprised at how horrible of a job the dds encoding tool does its thing

Wondering if the old compressor tool I used would fix the issue

[summer stream]

Bro

The old stuff can be non-relevant but it can run better than new stuff

[naive snow]

Hmmm so interestingly enough, using the photoshop option of advanced blending (knockout of channels) seems to introduce a form of color displacement? I need to run some more tests but channels are getting some form of values bump?

[summer stream]

huh, that is interesting?

[naive snow]

Without any corrective things

Hmmm interesting, so the advanced blending assumes that the color space needs a conversion, so it shifts things by like 10~15% because of that

as an example, top Green is what the histogram value is meant to be (original file)
Bottom is the values that are getting saved (new file)

[summer stream]

Tf

and how do you even dont let it change?

with photoshop being

well, photoshop

[swift gull]

Oddball question, but what addons if any have added armors/outfits?. I remember Trader Overhaul back in the day had a few install options for new outfits but that's all I can remember.

[naive snow]

So if you copy/paste into a layer and use those to copy directly back into the channels, the values are kept

[naive snow]

Gamma uses pretty much the armors from Anomaly directly and the no integrated helmets change

[summer stream]

so if i just copy and paste the VALUES
or the LAYER itself, it should be kept?

[naive snow]

So don't use this

[summer stream]

ahh

AAAAHH

fuck

[full stratus]

Okay, it was not a bug, it was...
I re-write scripts for lights correct work on Radar, because it`s a players hideout in Raid.

[naive snow]

Instead, copy the channels into layers:

[summer stream]

sir

can i just PASTE the CHANNELS

into correct ones

let me show rq if i get the chance

[naive snow]

No because you'll crush one of the channels and lose the info in there

Best to just copy to layer to keep a "backup"

Then you just copy back to the right layer order you want

[summer stream]

im ending it a

let me try ONE thing

and if it works
then im doing it

yeah nope, didnt work

so, i just keep them separated or keep them in CORRECT order?

[naive snow]

Let me make you a quick vid you'll understand better

[summer stream]

or i got it wrong

[summer stream]

yeah that would be the best

[naive snow]

Here. I'm flipping the blue and green channel

[summer stream]

so

you just paste it into the channels, right?

... now what

[naive snow]

Just save your bump and it should work

Simple as that

[summer stream]

[naive snow]

Should get rid of the bar thingy

[summer stream]

i just dont know how to save it when im at this point

channels r done but

now what

it saves as psd

im too dumb when its my first time even doing something like that

[naive snow]

Do you not have the texture export from nvidia?

[summer stream]

..no

[naive snow]

Grab the standalone texture tools of nvidia

You can google it

[summer stream]

done

(i had it for a long time)

[naive snow]

So either install the plugin for Photoshop that comes with it or save from Photoshop to a format like Targa and then put in your image into the tool

[summer stream]

no like burn, i meant by

how do i MAKE it save

what do i do with layers

[naive snow]

Just ditch them, don't need them anymore

Save from photoshop to TGA

[summer stream]

you wouldn't believe it

i did the same exact thing to the tarkov textures like 99% of the time

[naive snow]

It's not an issue when the initial texture isn't a dds probably

[summer stream]

true

[naive snow]

Did you manage to save a tga from Photoshop?

[summer stream]

i cant

why is it still there

[naive snow]

Did you just plug your bump directly into the normal?

[summer stream]

uhh...

uuuhhh...

[naive snow]

Yeah you messed up

Hold on I'm cooking at the stove right now I'll show you how to do it properly

[summer stream]

you know im really thankful that you even dont yell at me being so dumb in general

[celest forge]

Let bro cook

🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[summer stream]

he already cooked it medium rare 🔥

[naive snow]

I wouldn't scream at a child, why would I scream at a grown ass man

[summer stream]

true

(i feel old now)

[celest forge]

https://tenor.com/view/sanji-cooking-bro-is-cooking-let-him-cook-gif-10612455210859277218

[naive snow]

Here this is how it's done

You can plug the X of the Separate XYZ node into the specular if you want

[summer stream]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

I FUCKED IT UP

NOOOOOO

HOW TF

[celest forge]

Lol

Lmao, even

[summer stream]

i cant

i did the exact same stuff

nothing

[naive snow]

Show me the material

[misty mulch]

trying to make your own armor mod?

[summer stream]

all of the three i tried

[naive snow]

Nah I mean show me the material + node

Just like I showed you

[summer stream]

w/ standard normal

[naive snow]

You messed up the connections of the separate/combine

Switch Y and Z

[summer stream]

just saw it

looks

okay-ish?

[naive snow]

The bump# will fix the rest in the engine

[summer stream]

okay then

ill try bumpx now

do i use tga for the type of file?

[naive snow]

Sure, but you'll have to modify the .bat linked earlier since it's expecting.png

[summer stream]

k

[fair canopy]

is there a way to dltx upgrades? tried doing mod_w_(gun)_up directly in the upgrades folder but it doesn't seem to work

[covert pivot]

they are probably included in a ltx higher up?

yeah those look to be included into system.ltx so dltx file should be in gamedata/configs as mod_system_blabla

[fair canopy]

i'll give that a try

[misty mulch]

upgrade presets are in a different folder i believeeee

[summer stream]

idk if it's fine

[misty mulch]

and the include root file would be upgrade_presets, so i presume the DLTX filename prefix would be mod_upgrade_presets_*.ltx

[covert pivot]

upgrade_presets.ltx gets included up into system.ltx tho

[naive snow]

Meh probably? Depends on what you fed it. I'll make it on my side too and send it over so you can compare

[covert pivot]

unless there is a script that directly calls the upgrade_presets separately

[misty mulch]

you don't roll every dltx into system, otherwise every dltx would be mod_system, but it isn't

[summer stream]

oh wait.

it's different.

nvm

oh yeah

@naive snow almost the same as you sent me

your is more noisy, while mine has less

so, now what

do i convert tga to dds

and look on it in game?

[vast plaza]

Does anyone know how I can make the tooltip window larger so that the stats are in the window and not outside? I have about 10 windows that I need to change.

In which file do I have to configure what?

[naive snow]

Here these should be properly converted for gloss and normal. The resulting bump# too

[summer stream]

alright it's all the same

lemme give it a go

[naive snow]

Here's the bump map too while at it

[vast plaza]

Does anyone know which mod these two magazines were included in? These were added with the 9.3 update, but as you can see the icons are missing. If I know which mod this is, i can change it.

[naive snow]

Check via the section ID in something like Notepad++

[covert pivot]

i dont know where the upgrade_presets roots are one of them is system, but also item_upgrades.ltx that is loaded into inventory_upgrades.script

but you can only dltx the roots. either ltx files that get loaded directly into scripts or mod_system

[fair canopy]

unfortunately this doesn't seem to work

[covert pivot]

you can try mod_item_upgrades too, it seems to be used in a separate script that loads upgrade_presets.ltx through includes into it

item_upgrades.ltx is in gamedata/configs as well

[fair canopy]

it's from tcwp. i fixed the missing textures

will be updated whenever grok decides to in gamma

[misty mulch]

that too. trying to make ltxdiff work for me atm

[fair canopy]

I'd rather not overwrite the base upgrade ltx but I might have to

Same. I couldn't get it to work again

[vast plaza]

All the Tarkov Mags 😂

[covert pivot]

neither mod_system or mod_item_upgrades worked in gamedata/configs?

[misty mulch]

i have no idea why ltxdiff refuses to run in powershell for me now

At line:1 char:13
+ ".\LTXDiff" findroot "G:\Games\S.T.A.L.K.E.R. Anomaly\_unpacked" "E:\ ...
+             ~~~~~~~~
Unexpected token 'findroot' in expression or statement.
    + CategoryInfo          : ParserError: (:) [], ParentContainsErrorRecordException
    + FullyQualifiedErrorId : UnexpectedToken```

(random mod path given for it to work)

[summer stream]

@naive snow
oh lord mighty, i am very thankful for you giving ur time to me, it all works perfectly

[misty mulch]

fml ok fixed it

powershell needs an & in front of filename to read it as an exe

stupid

anyway

[misty mulch]

yeah it's either config\system.ltx or config\item_upgrades.ltx

[fair canopy]

im abut to try and see

[summer stream]

i can finally sleep

[hazy tundra]

Making some custom armour sets, noticed that I'm missing the replacement parts section for my outfits:

Which mod should I look at the ltx for this?

[fair canopy]

@covert pivot @misty mulch that worked. thanks for the help time to make a silly mod

[naive snow]

Happy it's looking good

[summer stream]

you can only see the slight change on knife when you really look into it, otherwise its good

gn for now

[covert pivot]

173 Parts in tooltip maybe is the script that might display stuff there, im not sure

[hazy tundra]

I'll have a look, ty

[covert pivot]

parts.ltx from GAMMA Items Parts Fixes

seems to be the thing that sets what parts are in outfits

[hazy tundra]

Ah good, just checked and my outfit doesn't appear in the replacement parts tab of the workshop

So, I'll go through parts.ltx and see what to add

[vast plaza]

@fair canopy thanks for the reply. I added the missing magazines by myself. However, I saw that the icon for the 60-round PMAG is completely missing. I quickly added that.

[covert pivot]

you can look at various mod_parts ltx files as example to dltx your stuff into [con_parts_list] section

[cinder tendon]

Roughly how hard would it be to make a mod that creates one npc faction leader

[naive snow]

Not too hard, just need model, animations, textures, dialogue files, loads of ltx editing and script making. Also depends on which faction

[hazy tundra]

You've done it again, SD

Brilliant

[outer mason]

Is this channel safe space to share mod ideas that are not fully worked out yet? Actually ones that are just forming as I write this?

Or is it more for production phase.

[outer mason]

I will go for it anyway:

To create new type of an item. For example med-bag. That you can drag and drop medical items onto it. Which would essential delete the item from your inventory and add the item to the med-mag "charges" of that item (and weight obviously increased by the weight of item added). So, then in one slot you can have bandages, med-kits, ibuprofen ect. And when you use the item from inventory or through quickslots it opens up a radial menu that lets you choose which item from the med-bag you want to use.

It would create one extra step for using something like a stimpack, but it would be a choice if you add those or not to it. But it would allow to condense more items into a single quickslot, and lower clutter in the inventory. Same could go for foods/drinks.

So, for example F1 (or whatever you would bind the item to) would be a slot for meds, F2 for food (lunch box?), and then you still have 2 slots to play around with. Stimpack if you want quicker access? Watch to check time? Quick release system? The Zone is your oyster.

So, to summarize:

• lower inventory clutter
• more options for usable items to choose from with easy access
• expand quickslot functionality without increasing number of quickslots/key binds
• potentially introduce new busy hands shenanigans, but that remains to be seen 😛

Probably more helpful in the early/mid game, but that is my favorite parts of it anyway.

Would need functionality to pull items out of it again of course (for quests) and would have a limited capacity, so you have to plan what you want to put in it.

Maybe use that placeable toolbox as well for tools and such (would slightly lower the weight of items? as it would simply be more organised so you can distribute weight more evenly? <- this is an excuse, but a decent one enough I feel :P)

And when you go to place it would spawn those items in it, and when you pick it up, they are readded to the "charges"

So... essentially those items would be also placeable through hideout furniture? I guess?

With very specific list of items you can put in them - akin to ammo-box for example.

When we are on this topic:

What if ammo boxes with the texture of the the loose item were placable? And you can store ammo of it's particular type in it only? But like... 4-6 mags worth of?

[slow bolt]

Making containers inside your inventory is very tricky, good luck. There is a reason no good mod was made like that

[outer mason]

If you make a container ... yes. But that is what user would see. Not what it would be. Containers were done. For artifacts. This is essentially what that would be. A separate item that just store a data of list of items. And applies the effects based on number of uses you add to it. So, it wouldn't actually hold medkits, but when you add it would appear like it does. It would do what medkit does, but it wouldn't be a medkit that you use... but that item.

[slow bolt]

[outer mason]

Medkit would be "despawned"

[slow bolt]

This would require heavy scripting and basically going around the item type

Adds a lot of challenge, but the other way now

[outer mason]

Yeah. And I am just learning to programm, but... when I get my adhd meds and I sort out my course ... MAN ... I think I will give it a go.

If... I get meds xD I will have my evaluation on Monday. But I am 99% sure I will get them.

[outer mason]

But what you think of the functionality - puting aside the technical solution for it?

If it would work the way I described xD

[slow bolt]

fun i guess, if you can make it work reliably

Its not terribly useful though

since i put bandage and medkit on hotkeys

with this i would have to spend precious seconds scrolling though the menu

[outer mason]

I do too, but that's the thing... I would like to have a choice if I use bandage or CT? If I use army or scientific?

[slow bolt]

You do choose what buttons you press

So if you put army in the slot - you use army

[outer mason]

But you have only 4. And I do like to use watch for immersion, but it then takes perciouse quickslot

And even if you expend the quickslot numbers... you still need more keybinds and those are very preciouse comodity atm.

Food and drinks? Have to open inventory every time.

Speaking of which... one item for instead of 4 in the inventory? Less clutter is always nice to me.

[outer mason]

And this... I would actually IDEALY (though I have no skill to do that whatsoever) would see an animation for opening med bag and then for using item. I get why some people don't want that, but I do believe that healing should be risk/reward endeavor and increasing time before you actually use the item is one way to do it.

Though that anim could play as soon as you press quickslot button for it

Sort of like a backpack anim that plays at the same time as the menu opens.

[outer mason]

But then again... if you have a radial wheel/menu does it really take that long if you know where the item will go? And if you have like 3-4 items per radial? Is the ammo select, so time consuming? Same concept really.

[balmy moth]

are ccon trees still a thing?

[outer mason]

I know there was trees option in c-con grass?

I mean not the same file, but the same channel/topic

[balmy moth]

yeah but no official mod thread or mod page so i was wondering

[outer mason]

@balmy moth There you go.

And of to the Zone I go.

[quasi narwhal]

artefacts is easier cause it's 1 item to 1

also every containered artifact counts as a new item for the game

which kinda defeats your idea of making them ephemeral

it's doable i guess, you'd have to add a new item which would be the "medbag" and always make sure med items disappear from the inventory though are still counted inside that "container"/item

now glhf with that cause just thinking about the logic gave me a headache

[remote venture]

Wanted to ask, can you tie sounds to specific effects or is x-ray a hoe in the sense it pulls sounds from restricted/limited categories?

[random fulcrum]

you can script that

[white ore]

heyo guys (hope this is the right channel to ask)
i got told 0.9.3 didn t have the G3A3 anymore or rather no animations for it
i am still on GAMMA 0.9 so i tried to find the G3 there
the idea was to "extract" the weapon data and add the weapon as my own mod to 0.9.3
so to say by transplanting the SG1 animations onto it
but i just searched my entire mods for the G3 weapon and it doesn t exist in 0.9??
huh? now i am kinda confused
if anybody has some pointers on what to do, that would be nice

[remote venture]

Cool thanks. I tried a few months ago to have specific sounds for picking up gun parts and likewise to nato/war saw weapons but was told it would be a compatibility nightmare and cause conflicts. Wanted to make sure it wouldn’t be the same case

[random fulcrum]

you got lied to

you can just add to the sounds table in items_manager.script

and then change the snd_on_take field on the item's section

[remote venture]

Oh, it was intended for mags redux and came from the owner so I just took it at face value. No big deal but thanks for the suggestion

[fair canopy]

It was never in gamma. There's a reanimation mod for it included but it nere dropped

[random fulcrum]

ah then it makes sense

raven is known for wanting to make as much as possible with the purely vanilla engine

the method i mentioned there needs modded exes

because the sounds table is local so it can't be read nor edited from outside of its original script

[acoustic lodge]

When i am changing NPC loadouts, is it possible to change the probability of a certain weapon spawning on him?

[random fulcrum]

not quite

the list of weapons in the loadout gets shuffled around when a new npc spawns and then it iterates through the list doing a random check on the weapon's listed chance

so changing a weapon's chance to 10000000 will not make it always spawn on mobs

[fair canopy]

Gamma now uses this mod which allows you to add weights to weapon drops https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1310295759114993674

[acoustic lodge]

so i can configure the spawn chance?

[fair canopy]

It also allows you to add weights to attachment drops

[acoustic lodge]

useable in vanilla anomaly?

[fair canopy]

Probably

[acoustic lodge]

should be

[fair canopy]

He posted it on moddb so I imagine so. But any more specific questions should probably be directed at the author

His ltx has info on how to add the weights to each weapon

[acoustic lodge]

thanks!

[random fulcrum]

oh that's cool

i had the idea to make this eventually

mogged by sd

[fair canopy]

More time to work on actually accurate stats again 🙏

[covert pivot]

[covert pivot]

yes. only current incompatibiltiy is the loadouts_injector.script some gun mods use

since it monkeypatches into the old logic and will error out since i removed some stuff

ill probably make a fix for it... eventually

[random fulcrum]

https://youtu.be/voV0CroCN9w was wasting time on this instead

[fair canopy]

O shit is that actually accurate cross hair bloom?

[white ore]

huh? it was never in GAMMA? How in the hell it is there then? I can even "cheat" it in the debug console.... now i am even more confused...
i mean its even in the showcases for GAMMAs weapons ... 🤔

[random fulcrum]

more than that it's the fluidity of the crosshair

and the animation

[white ore]

thinking... so to only real "G3 that can acutally DROP in GAMMA is the G3SG1?

[random fulcrum]

maybe i'll work on implementing traditional crosshair bloom

[white ore]

if i understood that right i mean

[random fulcrum]

since stalker doesn't have that

[white ore]

🤔 that would mean i have to find a weapon pack that has a G3 Family in it no?

[fair canopy]

Probably. Just because you can pull it from debug does not mean it's setup to drop

[random fulcrum]

the g3sg appears in the loadouts for the scripted phantoms in the monolith control center

[white ore]

fair enough... but if i can pull the G3 Assault rifle from Debug
SHOULDN T there be at least the model files in the mods folder? @fair canopy
that is whats confusing me

[random fulcrum]

that's where the guy took the "g3sg1 can drop in gamma" thing

[covert pivot]

i made it because a few people were asking about how to increase a guns drop chance here and i found the old system annoying back when I played around with it a few years ago too

[random fulcrum]

disagreeing with something or someone is the ultimate fuel source for modding

[fair canopy]

Oh that looks great

[white ore]

well... as for now it would appear the "easiest" way for me to go forward would be
to fin a weapon pack that has the G3 s in it and add it to GAMMA 0.9.3
meddling with the loadoutscripts so the rifles actually can drop

[fair canopy]

Does the bullet actually come from the gun or the player camera in hip fire?

[white ore]

but i have found NO weapon pack that has a G3 assault rifle the RWAP one was taken offline
(the one with the G3 pack in it)

let alone finding a wpn pack that has my lovely MSG90 in it, i believe SoC had a mod for that

[fair canopy]

I made a mod for the psg1. Probably the closest you'll get

[white ore]

aye.... still confused about the fact that the G3 Assault rifle is there but actually its not 😂
i mean where the heck are the wpn / model files? When it appears in the Debug Console and is even fully functional (GAMMA 0.9)

[covert pivot]

sometime in the future i want to tackle the hell that is character_desc_general files for random NPC spawns and add some configurability to the random choice because im tired of thinking about distributing Duxs models into different tiers and trying to keep some unknown standard (thats probably long lost already)

it would be better to just give various tags to the mesh files and then have configurable percentages for what specific tags can appear at different tiers or ranks how often etc

[naive snow]

Look into the ltx of the weapon via it's debug ID, you'll see where the models are

[white ore]

ok i ll try that thx Burn

[summer stream]

so, no one really explained to me but :

how do you BAKE mesh maps\bump maps in substance painter?
correction : light.

[naive snow]

You bake a normal map, a roughness and whatever else you need and then just make the bump like you'd port gun models

[summer stream]

i need this one...

since that is
the main thing i need for the MW19 textures to SHOW OFF properly

and not them looking like

[naive snow]

Wtf what even for?

[summer stream]

one of my fellow modders(that one who ports textures from mw19) said to do so

so they can look more polished

[naive snow]

He's bogus and full of shit

Or massively fucked up on the translation

[naive snow]

What are they even meant to look like?

[naive snow]

Sooooo just the specular?

[summer stream]

not just it

actually ill try to do it myself rq

[naive snow]

Like that's just a proper specular map and normal map, nothing fancy about it

There's nothing complicated or really different about that knife. You could put on the fancy metal shader for the blade, but that's it

Wrong chat, this is for making mods. Use #╟🔰☢newbies-chat or #╓☢stalker-chat

[cunning onyx]

Ok sry

[summer stream]

trial and error for now

[ocean remnant]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask but i'v been trying to change the sound when ever a skill levels up from Haruka's skill system. idk much about code but i can see its pulling the pda_tips sound from im assuming sounds.db0, i tried adding my own sound (mw2 lvl up ofc) into the db0 by unpacking and repacking then overwriting the sounds.db0. That didnt work and neither does replacing and existing sound in there or even telling it to use a different one thats already there. It just says "set_wrong_sound_theme" in console and no sound plays

xr_sound.set_sound_play(AC_ID, "pda_tips")

Thats the line i'v been changing in haru_skills.script

What should i do to change the sound that plays when a skill levels up?

[outer mason]

The way I see it you can either change that sound the script is calling, but that will also change messages sound or... in theory you add new sound with new ID and call that in the script.

You have a new sound file?

[quasi narwhal]

reverse engineer other mods using the sound_object on a script file and do the same logic

you just need to add the sound to gamedata\sounds, don't need to repack it

also check Raven's guide on how to monkey patch that script to avoid changing that line
https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/scripting/monkey-patching.html?highlight=monkey p[at#monkey-patching

[ocean remnant]

yes i have the sound i want as a .ogg file but i don't know how to make the mod use that file. i tried going into the db0 file where the pda_tips.ogg is and adding my file there then changing the "xr_sound.set_sound_play(AC_ID, "pda_tips")" to use that instead but it doesnt work it plays no sound at all.

[outer mason]

How did you try to make it use that file? Did you edit the script with the name of the file? Cuz it's not name it's ID. I am trying to find where those ID's are stored, but no luck so far. You can look into suggestion by rat pciture man above.

[ocean remnant]

so i took this: xr_sound.set_sound_play(AC_ID, "pda_tips") and changed it to this: xr_sound.set_sound_play(AC_ID, "mw2")
I added mw2.ogg into the sounds.db0 where the pda_tips.ogg is
the result was no sound playing when a skill leveled up.

thats as far as i got

[outer mason]

Ok I think I found it. This if from : configs\misc\sound\script_sound.ltx
[pda_tips]
type = actor
npc_prefix = false
path = device\pda\pda_tip
shuffle = rnd
idle = 1,1,100

Notice that pda_tips is the the ID in your "xr_sound.set_sound_play(AC_ID, "pda_tips")"

[ocean remnant]

orrait so its referencing that which is referencing the .ogg

[outer mason]

So it would seem. Yes

so if you did something like:
[pda_tips]
type = actor
npc_prefix = false
path = device\pda\mw2
shuffle = rnd
idle = 1,1,100

that should work. BUT I would suggest to make a copy of that file in the exact same folder structure with that edit, and restore that orginal .ogg file and place yours in a mirror copy of that folder structure as well

something like:
gamedata\sounds\devices\pda[your MW2 file]

and the other file with your edit in:

gamedata\configs\misc\sound\script_sound.ltx

then pack them to a zip with your modification name for example "My level up sound" and install it with MO2. WHen you place it at the end you can check if it conflicts with any other mods that way and make compatibility patch if needed.

so it would be one gamedata folder with two sub folders: sounds & configs and the rest of their folder structures inside those.

but that also requiers edit to that script file. so you can also place that in the mod. This one SHOULD overwrite the original one from the level up mod, but should be a copy of it with your edit.

or give me a sec and I will make it for you.

[quasi narwhal]

would be much easier if you just monkey patched the original script

but why am i giving good tips if u ain't gonna listen either way

[outer mason]

If it is easier for you, and you can make it in 10 min like I can do my solution, by all means. Help the guy out.

[outer mason]

I just need that sound file. Can you send it in DM to me?

[quasi narwhal]

bro i'm already answering the question and teaching them how to fish

don't have time rn but something like this would already do it:

local pda_sfx = sound_object [[sound_name]]

local override_xr_sound = {}
setmetatable(override_xr_sound, { __index = _G.xr_sound })
function override_xr_sound.set_sound_play(_id, _sound_name)
    pda_sfx:play(db.actor, 0, sound_object.s2d)
end

haru_skills.xr_sound = override_xr_sound

just put in a z_whatever.script file, change the sound_name to be the path of the sound in gamedata\sounds and that's it

no need to overwrite files just to cause issues with other mods in the future

also make sure that the sound file was exported correctly as the engine expects it, otherwise it won't play

[covert pivot]

might as well just dltx it too

[quasi narwhal]

yeah exactly, i just assumed my dude would like to keep the original pda_tip sound for other messages

as DLTXing would change for all the pda_tips call i believe

[covert pivot]

true

dltx or monkeypatching > overwriting files for stuff like this

[quasi narwhal]

copy and pasteing values to overwrite shit is just asking for trouble in the future

someday a mod is gonna need a value you've overwritten and/or will change that and you're gonna be banging your head against the wall figuring out why it's like that

[quasi narwhal]

this uses Raven's tip to patch only the calls from the haru_skills script file (has only one xr_sound call there)

[covert pivot]

me breaking the loadouts_injector.script used in some gun mods with my xrs_rnd_npc_loadout.script rewrite

[quasi narwhal]

als overwriting the original file would do the same thing

[outer mason]

Your solution probably is better, but I can't use it yet. I am also learning. Omi wanted quick fix not a lecture though, so I stepped in. If you don't have time to help them... why waist it on me?

[quasi narwhal]

so all pda notification sfx would be the new sound

[quasi narwhal]

I just gave a quick fix though

[outer mason]

It won't. We did extra edit and created new entry

[quasi narwhal]

• create a folder in MO2\mods with the mod name you want
• put this script in gamedata\scripts, just changing the sound_name
• add the sound file to gamedata\sounds
  voila

[quasi narwhal]

that also requires a change on the original script and will break if he wanted to update the mod

[outer mason]

Again, I am not arguing your solution is not neeter.

[outer mason]

Not if he loads it at the end though as mod in the MO2 ... no?

[covert pivot]

tbf monkeypatching is a few steps ahead of learning that gamedata overwrites db contents

[outer mason]

which we did.

[quasi narwhal]

yeah but if he updates Haruka's Skill mod to a newer version that changed that script, he's using the old ver. script on top of the updated mod

which only god and the engine will know what that'll do

[quasi narwhal]

i mean since this is the mods making discussion channel i'm just helping to make mods

[outer mason]

True. By then maybe I will learn your solution and will be better equiped to help them. Just pointint out that I somewhat understand your solution, but it would take me 30 min to figure out. Not sure how much time they would have to spend. Not sure they wanted to spend that time on it. Some people want to learn more about modding and coding. Like you and me. Not everything is a teachable moment though.

[quasi narwhal]

but at the end of the day it's fine, if it fixed the issue it fixed it so

[outer mason]

And I get what you mean. Of course it is better to future proof the mod, though This particular mod I think is pretty much finished? Or is there any development on the Skill mod? Because if so, I would love to pick Haruka's brain on it xD

[quasi narwhal]

I highly doubt that mod in particular will be updated again, I'm just highlighting a better solution for other shit you might wanna change
Some mods do update and can (or most likely will) break if you overwrite entire files or just copy and paste shit around

[misty mulch]

as a helper: thank you, because it makes people crash when they disable gamma economy

[ocean remnant]

This is pretty much the first time i have tried to mod something that is any more complex than literally changing a sound file, i thought it was going to be that easy but atleast it works now. Ill look into what you sent me @quasi narwhal and try it out too, this is all new stuff for me and @outer mason was just faster to reply 😅

speaking of no developments on the skills mod i would love to learn to make my own skills and add them in 🤔

[quasi narwhal]

you can start from the modding book's Scripting section:
https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/scripting/index.html

open just the Haruka Skills mod folder, poke through the script files and figure out what they're doing

[outer mason]

Bookmarked. Cheers

[covert pivot]

time to put more pitfalls into my mods to take the modular out of gamma

[ocean remnant]

followed your instructions and got it to work this way. Now ill need to do some reading to understand what i did and why it works 🫡

[quasi narwhal]

really good explanation from Raven on setmetatable from Lua in general (+ the use case from luabind): #╙🖇mods-making-discussion message

the snippet I used as a base for this patch I shared above: #╙🖇mods-making-discussion message

luabind being what you can use in Anomaly to create/define classes:
https://www.rasterbar.com/products/luabind/docs.html#defining-classes-in-lua

if you check through the unpacked script files from vanilla Anomaly (or in a few mods) you'll see the usage

[runic umbra]

How do I disable the main menu of Project Inevero after installation?

[naive snow]

!topic

[queen pine]

@runic umbra

Stalker mods and add-ons creation.

This channel is not for STALKER 2 modding discussions, for that go to #╟⚒stalker2™-mods-making-discussion

[naive snow]

Whooos they changed that command huh

[naive snow]

Ask in the inverno thread

[regal bolt]

Simply don’t install main menu

[runic umbra]

I can't join the thread for some reason but it's fine. I'm used to the menu now

[regal bolt]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1316762917110288414

[severe coyote]

guys is there a pack of weapon ammo check animations? or something like that?

bruh i cant write messages to project inverno in mod posting and cant subscribe to it

[summer stream]

no

[severe coyote]

discord maximum number of post participants reached

do i need to enable this if im on SSS 22 ?

[summer stream]

No

[hot marlin]

hey guys im going to ask a question about mod making. What program or plugin do you use to export dds files in photoshop?

[summer stream]

Nvidia texture exporter

but you can use gimp for it too, but its separate tool

[hot marlin]

yeah idk why but nvidia texture exporter is not working properly for me for some reason. I'll use gimp then!

thanks !!

[summer stream]

also you do not ASK how to install stuff in MODS MAKING channel, its about ASKING HOW TO MAKE mods

go here #☢чат-сталкеров-ru-ua

[severe coyote]

i know it, sorry

[summer stream]

download it as separate program

but it could be cuz you have not compatible gpu

[hot marlin]

is 4090 compatible?

should be right?

[summer stream]

Uhhh

yeah

then its problem related to photoshop

use it as separated program then

they provide it as plugin or program

[hot marlin]

yeah Ill try again

[cinder finch]

I'm running Arrival and ADEGA, Some places I have lowest 55fps. What should I check for it to not go below 60

[regal bolt]

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1316762917110288414

[regal bolt]

Yeah enable it, it’s compatible with sss 22

[severe coyote]

already found it, but thanks

[tepid plume]

i want to change the actor_visual of a certain outfit, how to achieve?

[summer stream]

read the mod_system_thap inside of the THAP Re-work or THAP Rework

(down the configs folder)

you will see how to overwrite it and which section it is

try finding which outfit you want to change in debug and then change the hud

[tepid plume]

so the third-person model is also handled by THAP?

[summer stream]

ehhh no

its related to hud, rather than third person

then its SWM or SVM as i remember

try finding there

[tepid plume]

thx, ill have a look

[tepid plume]

it seems SWM handles the body first-person view?

[summer stream]

yeah

honestly, i never even THOUGHT of changing the third person

since i never looked there

[tepid plume]

well... i was using the improved gestures tool so it will switch to that during animation. ive noticed that some outfit visuals in third-person doesn't match the body view/thap, kinda bugs me out.

[summer stream]

you just uh..cope with it simply

[tepid plume]

[acoustic lodge]

is there a file or something that i can configure that defines what items spawn in NPC inventory?

[cinder finch]

I have ADEGA Reshade BADLANDS v6 with these settings, I would like to have a bit more gamma or brightness.

[regal bolt]

Hey guys. Does anyone know about the second time_factor thingy in the scripts or configs that governs how much time ingame an IRL second is?

[shy karma]

Hey, can someone describe me how hard it would be to make a small mod changing base relations of a single faction? I want to alter base merc's relationships with other factions, aka make them neutral to loners from the start (cuz it makes no sense, and they proclaim ceasefire later anyway), but make freedom and bandints as enemies (gameplay-wise to add more targets, lore-wise - they don't get along with ideologized fanatics, freedom and duty both, and bandits they just despise - tbh, I suppose I can't make a "cold war" state where they just avoid each other instead of "shoot on sight", but not give tasks to each other either)

I expect that instead of a simple and singular config, I'll need to touch tons of dependancies, like letting loner to join their faction, make sure the quests are working fine (that they give enemy faction headhunt targets and not be a courier between merc and bandits, for example), also prevent Dushman sending us to bandit and freedom leaders, etc.

Can someone experienced with faction relations modding guide me through all such dependancies and where to tweak them? (asking in advance, will be home in ~2 hrs)

Bonus objective: really want to increase the density of "headhunt" type quests for mercs, that's why I even joined them in the first place, but there are too few of those 👀

[covert pivot]

gamedata\configs\creatures\game_relations.ltx

i dont think you need to change anything else since everything should already mostly function based on just your relation to them

there are various dynamic/fluid relations mod that dont change anything really else but the relation values between factions

[shy karma]

damn, I never hoped that it might be indeed just one file 😁

sweet then, gonna look into it once at home

[shy karma]

ok they seem to put the actual table there in a text file... anything I'm missing to make it more readable? 👀

I guess that "killer" means merc

[covert pivot]

dont use line wrapping, it should be pretty clear format then

[shy karma]

I just opened it with sublime text

[covert pivot]

yeah you should be able to make it so the lines dont wrap

idk sublime text i dont use it

but 100% there is a way to do it so it doesnt wrap into multiple lines

[covert pivot]

and yes

[shy karma]

yep, disabled wrap

their approach to settings window... 😬

whats the difference between 'killer' and 'actor_killer'? relations are not exact same there

[covert pivot]

actor is player character

[shy karma]

I would've guessed "actor" is with player, but it says player merc is neutral to army...

[covert pivot]

they might not be used i dont remember

[shy karma]

and "sin" is also 0, maybe unused

wait, 0 to army_npc and greh_npc, still enemy to army and greh... oof

[summer stream]

considering the fact that i basically have skill issue,

how do i add these kind of "light rays" on the texture to make it look more PBR-ish? like with #1043020993687474186 and other texture packs
(WITH the use of substance painter)

[covert pivot]

id probably just look at the faction name ones at first and test that stuff in debug a bit

greh_npc and army_npc might be some special characters

[shy karma]

yeah, I wont touch that

[covert pivot]

yeah those look to be lost to the zone quests special factions

like operation afterglow etc

[shy karma]

interesting that isg is everywhere 0 to merc, but they surely are hostile in game

welp, altering only loners, bandits and freedom...

[shy karma]

ok last question, how do I wrap it into a working mod to generate meta.ini? cuz this:

[summer stream]

i think it generates automatically

it's just the lack of gamedata folder

it should look like this

[shy karma]

oh fuck yeah I indeed missed it, I thought I made it

and I suppose the last mod in order overwrites all previos ones?

[covert pivot]

yea

[shy karma]

since I just realized I was editing the wrong file, Gamma economy has its own game_relations.ltx

so I carried over my changes to a copy of that

now I wonder if those relations changes would apply to my existing save? given its a new save since the last update and I, the loner, never met a mercenary yet

and yeah, I'm playing mercs the hard way - start as 'factionless' loner and join them later 😛

[summer stream]

they would
i suppose

[shy karma]

omg is the new menu music actually a bandit radio cover? I just realized

[naive snow]

Light rays aren't a thing.

It's a physical phenomena, not a texture or toggle switch in software

Whomever gave you that advice doesn't know what he's talking about

[summer stream]

https://tenor.com/view/vnc-vanitas-vanitas-no-carte-case-study-vanitas-anime-gif-4149985600393580798

[naive snow]

Or severe translation issues

[summer stream]

it makes the texture look more NATURAL

than just applying AO on the texture and call it a day

[shy karma]

ok damn need some more help, the numbers in PDA are all what I set, but despite being 0 (same as freedom pre-change), longers still shoot me on sight

[naive snow]

You mean like baking lighting onto the weapon? That makes it even less PBR

[covert pivot]

try in debug on a new save, i dont know if changing it midsave works

[naive snow]

Or maybe something like edge/sun wear?

[shy karma]

this is where I'm trying - I spawned a loner in a dead city

[summer stream]

let me just show

the new texture :

old one :

[shy karma]

merc NPCs are fine with him tho

oh fuck I found where I fucked up

[naive snow]

So you baked in reflections and effectively broke PBR. Genius

[summer stream]

not ME

but compare the TWO

which looks better

for me it's first one than the one with applied AO

this fact can't be applied to tarkov one since well..they already are baked one

[covert pivot]

you can try this too https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/reputation-editor

[naive snow]

You can apply AO no issue with that, but baking in reflections is a cardinal sin really. Like if you flip over the model, the reflections would look all wrong

Also if you're in a dark room, the knife would ''shine'' even tho the environment is all dark and no light sources

[summer stream]

i dont care. let me do it.

im already a sinner by doing many wrong stuff related to textures.

[naive snow]

Do your thing, but you're on your own for the rest

[summer stream]

https://tenor.com/view/puffer-fish-cs-go-gif-24871840

[naive snow]

To get the kind of map to combine on your albedo you'd modify the export preset for your textures FYI, like so

[summer stream]

oh

now that's some actual info

thanks burn

04_10

now considering the fact that ik how to get metallic map i can do some strange stuff

[shy karma]

thx for your help, everything seems to be working now, even Dushman do not send me to a bandit leader anymore

[pure venture]

Hello! i need some help with an addon! i'm using an m16a2 replacer, which has a strange strafing effect on it's spread (i.e. it's spray pattern consistently shifts to the upper left of the crosshair when moving). how do i fix this?

addon in question: https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/m16a2-replacer

[summer stream]

never mind, did the correct stuff on making it looking much better than before

[naive snow]

#🔨modded-gamma-support

[summer stream]

yeah it's good

[pure venture]

ok, i'll repost there, thanks!

[next robin]

Anyone know how to override outfit stats? looking to improve the Green Heavy Overcoat regarding slots (almost certain that fucks the game up if you even try), and any prot. stats, doing it for the sake of swagger and more swagger, and also boredom, and because overcoats are incredibly horrid. (yes i know theyre meant to be ass, i just wanna make em better)

I have unpacked the ltx already and im also looking to maybe edit the merc ace because why not

[vast plaza]

Question about artifacts: Why don't I achieve 100% in artifact gain, but only 99%? Maybe it's 100% but then why isn't it showing up? That annoys me 😉

[summer stream]

bug

[misty mulch]

when it hits 100% the "reduce the artefact condition" script kicks in, so to prevent it there's a lock for crafted artis

because all artis spawn at 100%

[summer stream]

question related to the debug item only,
where is stats and other stuff is for CZ75? i dont want to unpack it and raise already high space of my game

[misty mulch]

unpacking configs takes up so little space tho cos it's basically all text files...

anyway