╙🖇mods-making-discussion

[celest forge]

There's like plenty of proof that the main motivator for this is money

And like not even "what's wrong with asking for donations for your work" because there's nothing wrong with that

I'd be the world's biggest hypocrite If I said another wise

But it's not the first alleged STALKER coop mod that the guy asks money for

With no proof other than some videos

[fair canopy]

Targeting the Chinese lmao

[remote hamlet]

huh

[random fulcrum]

also charged for early access

[slow bolt]

He isnt a developer

He is a grifter that uses other people to do work

[remote hamlet]

Quite a situation

[limpid rose]

Names and PFPs blocked due to privacy concerns.

[random fulcrum]

nah bro i'm fully aware of the character and the backstory

[limpid rose]

I know, just linking it to your message so Ceezy can follow the subject

[random fulcrum]

ah all cool then

my bad

[limpid rose]

No worries!

Im assuming the INC post was posted here as well regarding the situation?

[glad mirage]

anybody know how to make icons not freakout when using dx9

or when lowering texture detail

[random fulcrum]

ye it was posted some hours ago

[limpid rose]

All good then

[slow bolt]

some hours? a lot of hours ago

[random fulcrum]

yeah i just saw that lmfao

#╙🖇mods-making-discussion message

[vernal epoch]

Is the saga continuing for no reason except exploitable hopes and dreams?

[remote hamlet]

Thanks for the info

[random fulcrum]

latest "i'm doing multiplayer" guy just refuses to believe anything of the story, despite the receipts, because monokit hasn't given him his side of the story

[limpid rose]

I know the conversation might come as satire from his side, trust me, it wasn’t.

[remote hamlet]

I never said I don't believe it

[random fulcrum]

and he can't read russian nor wants to use translators

[remote hamlet]

I just want to see all the info

[random fulcrum]

so there's virtually no proof

[remote hamlet]

I did use a translator but it was crude in alot of spots and was wondering if someone had a proper version of it

[limpid rose]

No one has translated it yet, no

[remote hamlet]

You don't have to say a bunch of crap I never said

I simply want to assemble a whole story of events

[random fulcrum]

the whole story has been told many times already

[limpid rose]

I mean the story is rather simplistic to be honest

[random fulcrum]

also that

[vernal epoch]

Why?

If every modder who actually makes usable stuff is distancing themselves, at which point do you accept that maybe there isn't anything more to the story?

[random fulcrum]

you don't need to hear a "i'm actually innocent" from a household grifter and actual fucking criminal

[remote hamlet]

Sometimes it can reveal stuff you don't know about if you hear their side

it may not all be true of what they say

but its good to have for comparisons

[limpid rose]

Guy acts like a project-lead, needs money so his dev can speed up development (500$ for PC upgrade this time around), shows sketchy footage (most of which is locked behind a boosty subscription) and then promptly abandons the project

And then the cycle believe it or not, repeats itself

[random fulcrum]

ye

that's the worst part

morally at least

because he moves the shop to a stupider market

so he can post up with zero issue and make bank again off of the same scam

which is what he did when he moved here

[limpid rose]

There’s a reason he’s had run-ons with Lvutner and demon

[slow bolt]

time to ping dry

[limpid rose]

And exactly what Granada (click) said, hides among the crowd

[random fulcrum]

i forgot i asked the bot to give me a random nickname

[limpid rose]

Don’t threaten me with a good time Mirrowel

[celest forge]

Apparently, into the thousands of USD according to some guy in another server

[slow bolt]

There are a lot of suckers donating money

Streamers showcase that nicely

[random fulcrum]

wouldn't be surprising honestly considering how unfathomably low risk high reward the scam is

on paper and in practice

[vernal epoch]

And that's without any connect to server style buttons that logical people would look for.

Imagine how much you could take from the clueless masses by reskinning the cop menu and using it's PvP mp

[simple scaffold]

Texture file dimensions that are powers of 2.

[glad mirage]

i am working with 100x50

its an ammo so it takes up 2x1 slots

though reading the manual

it says that i should export the icon with ARGB8

GIMP doesnt have that

[celest forge]

That's not gonna work

Make it 128x64

[glad mirage]

nope it didnt work

[celest forge]

Also icons don't have mip maps

[glad mirage]

it doesnt have mip maps either

some similar fixes does point the export format being the issue

[floral rune]

any leads on what file handles the labs being enabled/disabled?

[slow bolt]

huh

[floral rune]

a mod i have apparently disabled the MM and BS

[slow bolt]

what do you mean enabled/disabled?

[floral rune]

i want to make at least BS re-enabled

[slow bolt]

disabled how?

psy fields?

[floral rune]

no the game literally thinks that i have completed them/turned them off

over the rainbow auto completed after the fight at the barrier with gatekeeper, so did the MM task

[slow bolt]

[floral rune]

custom modlist fuckery

to begin with, the game wasn't letting me buy the psy helmet, no prompt in sakharov's dialogues

so i debugged it in

[uncut gyro]

I couldn't find a better channel, but I just wanna know why DOF is scripted to be forced on...

[vernal epoch]

!dof // its not, you turn it off here

[queen pine]

@uncut gyro Follow this: #╭📖faq message

[uncut gyro]

"get_console():execute("r2_dof_enable 1")"
No offense, but this is a command that is run on the script

[vernal epoch]

no offense but the first steps are

you literally listed the "if that doesn't work" option

[normal urchin]

so you can see the pretty SSS dof effects? idk tho lol but it is very easy to disable

[uncut gyro]

and it seems to be entirely superfluous, as I commented it, and it stopped running, and still allowed me to toggle it on

[vernal epoch]

brother, did you go to your mcm and change anything in the sss settings like it says?

[uncut gyro]

I am commenting on the mod creation as it made me curious, I'm not trying to find a fix, but rather understand why I needed a fix in the first place, as I was confused.

[vernal epoch]

its... not a fix? You have the screen space shaders mod that gives more DOF control than the default option. You need to control it in the mod configuration menu because its a mod.

[uncut gyro]

sss settings does not exist on my install for some reason 🤷

Likely a bug in the tags

[vernal epoch]

If you're clicking the dof in settings, the reason it does nothing is cause you're in the wrong place

[uncut gyro]

Ok, sure, but it was still forced on as a toggle...

I just want to know why the toggle was modded to be forced on, is all

[vernal epoch]

because its controlled by the mod, and you need to change it in the mcm

[uncut gyro]

ok, but, again, commenting a single line of code enabled me to use the toggle and the toggle, at least on the surface, appears to work fine.

that is to say that I don't feel like your response really answers my question

as a software engineering student, I'm just curious about the rationale behind these things, I'm not trying to judge, just to be clear.

[vernal epoch]

Then you should understand that by going into the settings and changing what you need is an easier method than by commenting code?

[slow bolt]

A fix? its enabled by default because it is a feature

[slow bolt]

what things

[uncut gyro]

Yes, but the toggle is forced on.

[slow bolt]

I dont understand you at all

[slow bolt]

Until you toggle it off

[normal urchin]

you would have to go ask ascii why lol

[uncut gyro]

Ah, well the toggle was simply not working for me.

[vernal epoch]

the standard dof option is forced on, because its covered by SSS mcm instead, and for some reason this is an issue instead of using the SSS mcm

[slow bolt]

Shiyon says it did

it didnt work because you used wrong toggle

the base game one

[uncut gyro]

Oh, ok, wait, no, I'm just dumb nvm (for some reason I mistook MCM for MO2).

So is the point of disabling the toggle to make it so the user is incentivised to look at the MCM settings? Or are some of the shaders contained only controlled through MCM?

[slow bolt]

Mod settings are controlled in the mod control menu

[vernal epoch]

I cant even find the default dof option anymore but here

[slow bolt]

All mods are controlled there

[uncut gyro]

ye, I know what MCM is. Regularly use it in FNV

[vernal epoch]

This is the amount of options you get from SSS mcm

vs the toggle dof on that anomaly used to have

[slow bolt]

you control only base game things from the base settings

[vernal epoch]

Which is why the dof does nothing anymore, because the mod give you more control

And again, I can't even find the original dof toggle

This one in the base settings

it is entirely overridden by the SSS settings in mcm

[slow bolt]

Ah so you found it

[vernal epoch]

yea, I had a smoothbrain moment cause I was looking for DOF

[uncut gyro]

Ok, there's a miscommunication here.

So, I turned off the DOF through base settings, by commenting the force toggle from the mod, because I had not computed it was an MCM option (I, again thought it was a mod you find with MO2 for some reason).

But I do understand what MCM is

[vernal epoch]

yea, uncomment your file, and go use the settings as outlined in that faq post from before

Things are toggled on by default in gamma, but the very few things forced on are done for reasons, and fortunately, this isn't one of them

[uncut gyro]

well I was about to ask... what problem is there if I don't force the base game toggle on?

[vernal epoch]

If you dont change the settings in the mcm, that toggle does nothing

You commenting the line is the same as going to the mcm and turning it off there

[uncut gyro]

oh interesting

[vernal epoch]

like, you don't like weapons dof? But you want the pda dof?

go tweak the shit

[uncut gyro]

yeye

[vernal epoch]

the base one is just on off, the mcm one overriding it is control

[uncut gyro]

ok gotcha

[surreal gust]

I doubt he even knows how to fix the ping issue

He has no idea how it works, yet he claims that those assets are his

[surreal gust]

Most people don't play with 'vanilla' gamma, so if multiplayer existed, you would have to use 'vanilla' gamma as the host, and anyone else with modded gamma won't be able to join.

[slow bolt]

Oh yeah no

most play with vanilla gamma

[surreal gust]

I doubt

[slow bolt]

This is gamma we are talking about

[surreal gust]

Even just disabling 1 mod is enough

[slow bolt]

people who play gamma cant read and cant mod

We are talking the lowest denominator here

[surreal gust]

Yet, I heard they want to

[pulsar flame]

Hey guys, I keep getting a string_find error whenever I hover over certain weapons

Anyone know why?

these weapons look really nice too, so I'd really like to use them, but my game crashes if I hover over them for even under a second

[slow bolt]

!support

[queen pine]

@pulsar flame If you have a question or need help with G.A.M.M.A., please use the correct channel for your problem:

For vanilla G.A.M.M.A. modlist (this means that your modlist is unchanged and untouched): #🔨base-gamma-support

For custom G.A.M.M.A. modlists (this includes mods added by yourself and also mods that are disabled by default in G.A.M.M.A.: #🔨modded-gamma-support

If you are having issues with the installer, or with your G.A.M.M.A. installation: #1026866080347603065

Any other channel ARE NOT support channels. If your question is a support question, you may be asked to go to the proper channel.

[slow bolt]

and post just the error there

[surreal gust]

lmao

they're making fun of me

[pulsar flame]

mb I just forgot what channel i was in XD

imma do that

[slow bolt]

where what

[surreal gust]

in his server

someone sent me an image in my dms

[slow bolt]

oh well duh

[glacial pond]

Ok so I have a mate who created his own textures and I would to add them to GAMMA BUt it is not in mod format, I can only drag and drop it. Is this possible?

[slow bolt]

There is no mod format

its all loose files

[glacial pond]

ok so where would I put these files then?

if I wanted to use them

[slow bolt]

What textures are that

[glacial pond]

I know a guy who made some, not sure which though

I think il just try it on a base Anomaly lol

[slow bolt]

[still agate]

Question. I noticed the healing animations on exosuits are different now. Was there a reason *(technical) for removing them?

[slow bolt]

Thap Update fucked them

#1137162280816099450 message

[still agate]

Oh, understood.

[glad sequoia]

hello, i did some weapon repositioning, and now i cant aim trough my sniper scope. i cant figure out how to get it right again, what setting adjusts it? or how can i reset the original position? I did not make a backup settings save..

[surreal gust]

Skyloader blessed us with a new compiler update, @undone lily

It compiles 3 to 5 times faster

It also calculates light more accurately, and it uses the intel embree library for faster ray tracing

It also fixes the overexposed hemi on MU models (trees, cars, etc)

The best part is that it's a beta update

This should make stalker maps look so much better than it is atm

Even just recompiling vanilla anomaly maps without any changes at max quality will make a massive difference in quality.

[lilac idol]

could someone test this please? i need to know if you guys get a crash when picking up the weapon

and if you crash let me know if your crash looks like this

[surreal gust]

Some guy said that it compiled a map 20 times faster for him

I believe he was using nvidia cuda in the compiler options

Actually

Some other guy said it was 12 times faster without nvidias cuda

[simple scaffold]

So pad the file with black space until it is 128x64 the actual useful texture stays as is you just plop it in a file with power of 2 dimensions

[glad mirage]

cant i just resize the file to 128x64?

and i already tried resizing it at it didnt work

[celest forge]

The icon has to be in the correct space

[glad mirage]

well resizing the icon to 128x64 didnt work

for context, i am trying to fix an icon from a mod that is misaligned when using dx9

[surreal gust]

Ze compiler

The interface has changed a lot

Way less buggy than the one from 1.5

Accelerated computing is a brand new feature in 1.6

Multithreading actually works in the compiler

[surreal gust]

X-Ray doesn't support odd image resolutions

It only supports even resolutions

For ex: 128x128, 256x256, and so on.

It can't be 128x64 or 256x128

Otherwise, it'll crash

[lilac idol]

i don't have any more time to work on this until next month, ill just leave this here in case anyone wants to tweak it

if it crashes on start up try to move the mod_system_zzzz_vector inside "GAMMA large files" outside of the modlist

i don't have time to test it myself

if you guys could give me some feedback or point out any mistakes I may have done or things that are missing please report it to me

they should look like this

[glad mirage]

are you positively sure about this

i am seeing alot of conflicting evidence pointing otherwise like the anomaly modding guide

even examples that works in dx9 like maid HD icons

[surreal gust]

It crashed for me when I tried it

[glad mirage]

it didnt for me atleast

[surreal gust]

Maid icons aren't individual

They have a huge ass canvas size

[glad mirage]

though my problem is that the icon are misalinged in dx9

[surreal gust]

rip

all i can say is that

shit renderer

[flint pike]

greetings i got a queastion. Im using the in game weapons editor tool, witch worked once for me for a VSS Vindicator, i change the ammo amount in the clip, worked. But now it does not work for me anymore. I dont think i do or can do anything wrong, but does has anyone a idear on how to fix it?

[normal urchin]

someone may correct me if I am wrong, but I believe the in game weapon editor HUD doesn't save your settings as expected. There is likely an .ltx file somewhere that is handling the config for that gun (which the in game editor does not write to), so only thing I can really tell you is to find that config and edit it there

[remote hamlet]

Has anyone found a way to load multiple instances of anomaly?

I tried loading the exes dirrectly but they don't load anything when anomaly is already open

[undone lily]

Cool !!!

But we are day 1293 without anomaly map sources

[fair canopy]

my question is why did only one person have those files?

[undone lily]

Or can it basically fix the anomaly AI map editing issues?

[undone lily]

Don’t know. I think it’s last day people

[surreal gust]

maybe not a massive difference in quality, but it'll fix the overexposed hemisphere on trees and other MU objects

which was really annoying af

also monokit started making fun of me in his server, and his people actually believe him

the compiler being 12 or 20 times faster is a fucking blessing

skyloader is a fucking legend

[undone lily]

Not the first time a toxic modder is spreading lies and bullshit in his own cesspool of a server. Just ignore that shit

Monokit is banned from all stalker discords for a reason

[surreal gust]

i did, i couldn't care more for a reason, the problem is that his fans actually believe him, and they're gonna spam in my dms being like "you faking map maker, it's not a scam!!!!!"

the fact that people don't know he had other servers like razmp and razomaly where he said "i will cancel the project if you don't pay me" or constantly asking for money

razmp had a beta tester role, where you need to pay 200$ to get access to

the client didn't even fucking work

it would only open up singleplayer CoP

[undone lily]

Yeah I know all that shit

[surreal gust]

i'm saying that in case if he uses those messages against me

he has alts in the server

[undone lily]

Yeah I can imagine.

[surreal gust]

i'm compiling the build 1844 at max quality

the speed is insane

although, still long

it won't take 20+ hours to compile a map anymore

[undone lily]

https://youtu.be/k-WVQBIk4nk?si=io_-Bgo8dH3Y5erm

What a dumbass

There’s a difference between “paywalls” and “support and get access to a build that will be realised publicly for free in 1 month”

[surreal gust]

max quality

ryzen 3 1300x

this is without nvidia cuda

should have gotten an rtx for compiling maps, but oh well

alfa modraker plz

[surreal gust]

yeah, he's stupid af

[undone lily]

Well I bet you can get people around here that are willing to host computation on their NVidia GPU

[balmy idol]

I came here to talk about modding and there's all this drama going on like yikes

[random fulcrum]

most people try to avoid the discussion because it's been done to death already

90% of the time is a rank 1 guy that asks about multiplayer

or his side of the story

and just keeps going on trying to fan the flames

when the full story is already out there

[surreal gust]

i hope that skyloader adds rocm support when it releases

[surreal gust]

day 1844 of asking for alfa modraker role

[random fulcrum]

i got alpha from asking for the modder role to be removed

[fair canopy]

you'll probably get alpha when you solve the anomaly maps issue

[surreal gust]

Yoooo

It took 1:48 hours to compie the map at MAX QUALITY

That's insane

[surreal gust]

nah, i want to do a remake of anomaly maps of my own

i'll use mlr sources to be able to fully edit the levels

this will allow me to do all sorts of things

without all.spawn getting mad

[random fulcrum]

imagine if some genius added code to modded exes that allowed for loose loading of all.spawn stuff

[surreal gust]

Graph points are stored in all.spawn

The problem?

They're stored into the .bin folders

All.spawn doesn't contain any AI info about the levels (ai grid)

They're stored in the level files

[random fulcrum]

won't even pretend to understand map jargon but i do want to some day make doom's e1m1 in anomaly

[surreal gust]

"I'll do it"

If it's somehow possible to export that map to blender

I might do it.

[balmy idol]

Is BEEF in here? The one who made the NVG mod?

[torpid badge]

are we allowed to test script fixes on people in https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/928715640968212582 ?

[surreal gust]

I heard that ZLUDA exists

Basically, it allows AMD GPU's to use NVidia's CUDA.

I have to try that.

[lean dagger]

works very well on stable diffusion. dabbled a bit in it but being on amd it was unusable. tried it with zluda and had literally 10x the iterations per second. that stuff is a blessing

[surreal gust]

I want to use zluda to speed up the compiler

Since I'm stuck to using intel's embree

Skyloaders 1.6 compiler added cuda support

[lean dagger]

i had to replace some .dlls in stable diffusion to make zluda work, sadly i think it needs to be made compatible on a per application basis, at least im not aware of a one size fits all solution.

[surreal gust]

wdym by "stable diffusion?"

[lean dagger]

the generative ai model called stable diffusion. wanted to fuck around with some image generation but sure as fuck didnt wanna pay midjourney any money lmao, do i just hosted SD locally

[surreal gust]

Ah

Someone recommended me to try zluda for the compiler

[lean dagger]

to be more precice i used AUTOMATIC1111 webui

[surreal gust]

Since I want to increase the compiling speed

Skyloader is a legend

[lean dagger]

https://forums.guru3d.com/threads/how-to-optimized-automatic1111-zluda-stable-diffusion-webui-on-amd-gpus.451861/

maybe that helps you

[surreal gust]

I haven't tried, yet.

If I run into issues, I'll look up on that link.

It took me 1:48 hours to compile a map using Intel's embree option from the compiler at max build quality

That's insane

[remote hamlet]

A stalker map or something else?

[surreal gust]

Because in 1.5 it would have taken 6 or 9 hours.

Sdalger map

The compiler got updated.

[lean dagger]

is it some brand spanking new anomaly 1.6 stuff? or seperate project?

[surreal gust]

No

Skyloader is working on to improve the original level compilers brought to us by gsc

He has made it over 12 to 20 times faster in 1.6 version

That's fucking insane.

[remote hamlet]

wow

[surreal gust]

Since he included intels embree and nvidias cuda for accelerated ray tracing

Ray tracing has been a thing even on the original compilers

But they were so slow

[lean dagger]

interesting, so xray also bakes lighting like source does?

[surreal gust]

No

Xray doesn't bake static lightmaps like source

There's an option for that in the compiler

But I don't want to use it

[remote hamlet]

oh wait

I thought that was an error log at first glance lol

[lean dagger]

whats the ray tracing then for? like whats getting precalculated?

[surreal gust]

I don't really know

Probably for hemi lighting

[lean dagger]

interesting

[surreal gust]

It wouldn't make sense to calculate gi on stalker maps

Since the game has a day and night system

[surreal gust]

Not that interesting where other compilers used ray tracing

Even the one from quake

[remote hamlet]

Its an old method

[surreal gust]

Ik

[remote hamlet]

different from modern realtime raytracing

that most people think of

[surreal gust]

Ik

[remote hamlet]

mainly talking so the other guy knows

[surreal gust]

Those use path tracing and different light calculation methods

[remote hamlet]

I think realtime ray tracing also is calculated from the camera out

or I am thinking of something else

[surreal gust]

Stalker ray tracing is real

Kinda

It's partially playable in the rtx remix project.

[remote hamlet]

[lean dagger]

honestly, the current iteration of raytracing, at least rtx is just so gimmicky

[surreal gust]

Rn, the builds to the engine are gone

You can't download it for noe

[lean dagger]

i can count on 1 hand the amount of games where it actually was a net positive and worth the performance hit

[surreal gust]

Most weren't optimised for amd

[lean dagger]

i used to have a 3060ti to see if im missing out

[surreal gust]

Amd can compete in ray tracing when game devs optimize it.

[lean dagger]

and turned out at least for me that i wasnt misding out lmao

[surreal gust]

A lot of them are sponsored by nvidia to make amd look bad

[lean dagger]

oh yeah absolutely, nvidia just has the majority marketshare and gets its greasy dick into every crevice of the industry

[surreal gust]

Various business dealings, indeed.

[lean dagger]

fuck nvidia honestly, they are incredibly anti consumer

[surreal gust]

At least they open sourced their drivers

They did it in last year, as well

Iirc those were kernel drivers.

[lean dagger]

they also planned to sell the 4070 under the name and price of the 4080, until tech people noticed the specs were off and they are full of shit

[remote hamlet]

Do you guys know of any other possible ways to play multiple instances of anomaly?

Tried directly launching the exes

but that did not work

[lean dagger]

parallel vms?

[remote hamlet]

That could work

[surreal gust]

nvidia when tech people uncover their scheme

[remote hamlet]

never set up a vm though

[surreal gust]

they'd get away with it too

because most of the people that have nvidia are retards

Other people use it for the AI stuff, and I can't blame them for that.

[remote hamlet]

[lean dagger]

recently i helped a guy build a pc. for some reason he insisted upon nvidia just because

had no knowledge on the matter

he would throw fits despite not understanding it

[remote hamlet]

I only know of a couple reason to why you might want it

[lean dagger]

he was over 20 btw lmao

[remote hamlet]

rtx raytracing (which is overrated) and this one minecraft optimization mod

[lean dagger]

honestly if you are on productivity then a 4090 is reasonable

its overpriced as shit

but it is by far the fastest, undenyably

[surreal gust]

Whether it be ai or similar

That's where nvidia is used

Not worth for the money at all

I bet the 4090 costs 400 or 500 to produce

Maybe even less

[lean dagger]

yeah just gaming amd is miles ahead in price / performance

[surreal gust]

Knowing how much nvidia overprices stuff

[lean dagger]

theres no reason for ngreedia gpus except in super niche scenarios that 90% of nvidias userbase does not experience lol

[surreal gust]

Yeah, lmao

They call amd bad because of the "bad" drivers and a lack of features

The drivers were bad like 12 years ago

And the lack of features... eh not much, but amd did innovate a lot

They added ai support to their gpus, which is great

[lean dagger]

bruh amd drivers are better than nvidias

[limpid rose]

I usually don’t care if it’s red or green, just which one performs better in the same price range

I’ve been with Radeon/AMD most of my life, that kind of went downhill when I got the 5700XT which was an absolute nightmare at the time unfortunately

[surreal gust]

Yeah

[lean dagger]

5xxx series was also really mid all things considered

[surreal gust]

I had more issues with nvidia

[lean dagger]

6xxx is pretty good

[surreal gust]

My previous gpu was a gtx 660

[lean dagger]

7xxx is fucking great

[surreal gust]

Now, I upgraded to a rx 6600 xt

[limpid rose]

I would have gone for 7xxx if they weren’t in the same price range as the 4070Ti-S here

Not sure what’s going on with pricing, but a 7800XT would have set me back nearly just as much as my 4070Ti-S

30€ difference

[lean dagger]

where im from you can get a 7900xtx for around 300€ cheaper than a 4080

[surreal gust]

At least you don't have to face the gpu prices which are 30 to 40% more expensive where I live

[limpid rose]

Damn, I wish

[surreal gust]

The rx 6600 xt i got was used

And its price was about 230$

[lean dagger]

also another nvidia phenomenon

[limpid rose]

My fiancé wanted a upgrade from her 2060, specifically a 4070. So she got my old 4070, while I got the 4070Ti-S for 740€, where as the 7800XT is around 700 here

[lean dagger]

nvidia people think their gpus dont deprecate

i see used 1080tis being listed for 700€ lmao

[limpid rose]

Lunatics

[surreal gust]

Bruh

[lean dagger]

here the 4080 is between 1200 and 1500 while the 7900xtx is between 950 to 1200, depending on make

[surreal gust]

1080ti can't do hardware ray tracing

[limpid rose]

Yeah okay, that’s insane

I can pick up a 4080 super for just under 1100

[surreal gust]

Which can be a problem for compilers

[limpid rose]

Correction, my go-to brand/model is now 1123,-

[lean dagger]

i mean fir rasterization the 1080ti is still apptopriate but yeah for productivity it us lacking

[limpid rose]

The cheapest I can see is 1079,-

[surreal gust]

Yeah

[limpid rose]

But that’s a PNY card

[surreal gust]

I could have also gotten a 3060

But I didn't want to

I honestly don't care about nvidias cuda

[limpid rose]

Nothing wrong with a 6600xt either. All just boils down to what you need it for

[lean dagger]

honestly having had a 3060ti, cant recommend

its upscalibg and rt performance was too lackluster to warrant the price, at least launch price

[limpid rose]

I do a lot of 4k rendering and powering multiple ultrawide monitors, usually with a video running in the background, NVENC has been pretty nice so far

[lean dagger]

from what i heard x264 is faster and better quality, cant confirm tho

[surreal gust]

I also have a x370

I got it for a great deal

It also came with a ryzen 3 1300x

Only for 140$

I can easily resell the motherboard and get a b650 easily if I need to

[limpid rose]

I've tried x264, 265, Intel encoding, and NVENC. So far NVENC has delivered the best quality for me in darker scenarios. No matter what settings I used with 264/265, couldn't get rid of artifacting. OBS is setup properly and it's not visible in the raw footage.

[surreal gust]

🤑

[limpid rose]

And speed isn't really a concern at the moment, Even half hour videos @4K/60fps are rendered in just over 30 minutes

[lean dagger]

oh you just reminded me of a major asspain

[limpid rose]

I'm gonna undust my rig with my old 290X and i5-3570 for Stalker 2, just for shits and giggles

[lean dagger]

intel texture works is ass

[limpid rose]

Screw that

[lean dagger]

fucking bc7 .dds never works right in elden ring

and i cant use the nvidia tool sadly

so i need to use bc3 wich looks like unwashed ass

and sometimes glitches out when enlarging the image

[limpid rose]

That's a big yikes, BC3 sucks

[lean dagger]

look at that shit lmao

thanks intel

[limpid rose]

Definitely an assortment of strange glyphs

[lean dagger]

worst part is this happens randomly

like it just does that

and disdapears

cant even troubleshoot it

because replicating it is random

[limpid rose]

Read/write artifacting?

Not sure if there are resolution/size constraints for ER

[lean dagger]

no clue, shouldnt have issues with any of that since i used the same resolutions

[surreal gust]

bc7 be like

i used that for the lightmaps in the compiler lmao

rip dx9/dx10 ppl

only dx11

"dx8" isn't real, it's just dx9 static lighting.

[limpid rose]

I had a similar type of artifacting doing Nose/Tail insignias/numbers for the F-15E in DCS. Turns out there was a size constraint, anything over 7MB wasn't able to be read by the engine and would corrupt.

[lean dagger]

lmao fr?

[surreal gust]

yea

anomaly lies be like

actually, i think it was from coc

[remote hamlet]

I did a basic test with my project with two computers connected with log me in hamachi and they were able to talk to eachother!

[limpid rose]

[surreal gust]

call of cocks

[remote hamlet]

Gonna do a second test with them using anomaly to create the data this time and send a video

[surreal gust]

whatever it was called

[limpid rose]

DX8 first popped up in CoC if my memory serves correctly as well

[lean dagger]

this is something different, because other modders using nvidia made icons dont suffer ftom this lmao

[limpid rose]

Oof

[surreal gust]

coc iwp gamma when?

[limpid rose]

Before coc iwp gamma gunsligher

[surreal gust]

stalkercraft Z gamma when?

[lean dagger]

true gamma when?

[limpid rose]

Gamma lite when?

[surreal gust]

when glock starts using only 90 mods

[limpid rose]

hi guys i want play gamma but size to bigg can i remove all mods????

[remote hamlet]

lol my next test is how well my laptop can run anomaly and how well they can commuicate with the other computer through anomaly

[surreal gust]

stalker gamma coop

[lean dagger]

MP shenanigans?

[remote hamlet]

I got bare basics "multiplayer"

[limpid rose]

@remote hamlet stalker gamma coop coc iwp goldsphere when????

[remote hamlet]

You can send postion packets to other clients connected to the server currently

[surreal gust]

He's using some method that crcr did iirc

[limpid rose]

how much boosty subscription cost for beta footage???

Alright im done

Before I give myself an aneurysm

[surreal gust]

I'd recommend you to do engine edits if you want to add real multiplayer.

You can use code from X-Ray OMP

It's available in github

[remote hamlet]

The only real thing I need is a way to communicate outside/into of anomaly

[surreal gust]

Ok

[remote hamlet]

thats fast

Haven't test the speed of file reading/writing but I would imagine its nowhere near as good as just having it directly linked

[limpid rose]

Goodluck Ceezy

[lean dagger]

sounds like a cool as fuck project tho

[remote hamlet]

but in theory the only issue it would cause is increased latency

by a small amount

This is a test I did earlier with it https://medal.tv/games/stalker-anomaly/clips/ijCydMVRRv8ohkcen/d1337QHvcySy?invite=cr-MSx3SmQsOTY1MzkwMyw

I am writing to a file off screen

and the program picks it up -> send it to server -> server sends it to my client (which is the one in the clip)

[limpid rose]

I wouldnt worry too much about latency issues yet, i'd be more interested in getting the connection "stable" first and see how you can implement saving, level transitions etc

[remote hamlet]

Yeah

[limpid rose]

And worry about optimizing P2P netcode later down the line

[remote hamlet]

My idea is to first get player replication all nice

and have basic pvp thats calculated on the client

[limpid rose]

Atleast im assuming you're making this P2P and not Dedicated

[remote hamlet]

like if a client shoots a player it sends the player id of the person they shot and the damage

[limpid rose]

Havent watched the vid yet, will do when I get home

[remote hamlet]

It has it so the host is a server

and all the clients send data to the server

and the server sends the data to all the other clients

[limpid rose]

Good stuff

[remote hamlet]

Mainly just me staring doing nothing and then a underwere appears at my feet (because the packet from another client is recived)

[limpid rose]

So now you're doing 2 computers connected through localhost?

[remote hamlet]

They are both on local host

but I have them connected through log me in hamachi

or well

not sure if they count as local host

[surreal gust]

You do realize that if you want to add real MP to anonaly, you would have to do engine edits

Anonaly 1.5.2 has barely any MP code left

[remote hamlet]

so..?

I'm not using mp code

I'm using my own whole program

which then writes to files

and my mod reads those files

[surreal gust]

Ok, but you'll run into issues with the engine

[remote hamlet]

using the io library

[limpid rose]

It's difficult, that's all he's saying. mostly due to the way anomaly is ductaped together at the moment.

[surreal gust]

At some point.

[limpid rose]

X-ray mono has squashed many projects unfortunately

[surreal gust]

Anomaly 1.6 will remove the code entirely.

[remote hamlet]

Ok but I'm not using the mp code

[surreal gust]

CoC OpenXRay to be exact

[surreal gust]

Doesn't matter

[limpid rose]

Oh OXR, sorry

[surreal gust]

That code contains the networking and all

[limpid rose]

I'll blame it on it being late here

[remote hamlet]

The only issue would be if they removed the io library which I think comes with lua (don't know much about it so I could be wrong)

[surreal gust]

Idk

Ask them what they have removed

[remote hamlet]

But how much program works is

[limpid rose]

Or keep the copies of 1.5.1 and 1.5.2, fork your own

[remote hamlet]

I have a c++ program that does not touch the game at all

and it handles the server and client

[surreal gust]

Ok

[remote hamlet]

all it does is read and write to two txt files
and the mod I made reads/writes to those txt files

[limpid rose]

If they're simply cleaning up unused code, nothing should be able to stop you from implementing it again

IIRC nothing is currently dependant on it

[remote hamlet]

yeah

[surreal gust]

Yeah, they're doing it for a reason

Gsc code sucks

[remote hamlet]

Fully understand removing the mp code

[limpid rose]

[surreal gust]

It's better to use stuff from X-Ray OMP

[limpid rose]

Tbh, we're like 2 months away from S2. UE5 with an already existing MP framework would probably be the easiest to build off of

[remote hamlet]

They said it wasn't coop

[surreal gust]

S2 sdk 💀

[remote hamlet]

from what I heard

[surreal gust]

I can only imagine the file size

[remote hamlet]

and multiplayer is not on release

[surreal gust]

Sigma gsc?!

[limpid rose]

It isn't, but GSC will actually make a MP framework for once. From there with due time, there should be nothing stopping folks from integrating that to SP

[remote hamlet]

hopefully it comes with full mod support

[surreal gust]

Hopefully they don't fuck it up

[remote hamlet]

That too

[surreal gust]

Their netcode sucks.

[limpid rose]

UE5 with an already existing MP framework is usually not that difficult to tinker with

[surreal gust]

XrMPE uses stuff from X-Ray OMP and it actually works great.

[remote hamlet]

I

[limpid rose]

According to Rahmi it should

[remote hamlet]

I'm more scared for the release of stalker 2 it self

[surreal gust]

Without copy and pasting it, of course.

[limpid rose]

But hey, who knows. Fuck around and find out moment

[limpid rose]

Arcanum : Shadow of COOP was actually a really fun experience despite its limitations

For the most part it was synced really well

[remote hamlet]

Currently with how I plan to do my multiplayer system it should be fully compatible with a large majority of mods (albeit with alot of jank)

as the client is going to be calculating most stuff

like the server will network the position, and states of npcs to the clients

but the client calculates its own bullet collision

sending the damage and the relative impact point of the bullet to what ever it hit aswell as the hitbone

but theres probaly gonna be some stuff thats not replicatable

But bare minimum I want
Player replication, NPC replication, droping/picking up items, inventory replication

if it works the way I want

the server could have a custom npc mod

and if the client doesn't have it then the model would look like some random fallback model

like a zombie

but because the server is networking over damage packets

it would still work like normal

albeit looking abit janky on the client who doesn't have the custom npc

But I still need to do abit more research into it

but on paper it all looks possible

[balmy idol]

Fake thermals

[random fulcrum]

NIGHTMARE VISION

[toxic nebula]

I have a problem with gamma that I want to fix. I feel that creating a custom mod is the right thing to do. I have never created a mod for a game in my entire life. What can I do to start learning how to make a mod?

[random fulcrum]

jesus christ imagine sitting through the entire like 4 minutes it takes to load into gamma just to see if the color is nice

every time you change them

[balmy idol]

Kill me fr

[sudden inlet]

How does printf works? I see scripts have a lot of these but I can't find any result in log or console

[celest forge]

I installed SSS and Enhanced Shaders and now my game looks mega dark

Tried messing with the console commands but it still looks all fucked up

It's apparently enhanced shaders

SSS looks and works fine

[remote hamlet]

bruh

man I thought I could use string.split this whole time

should have figured its not base lua though unless I am missing something

gmatch works as a replacement

[remote hamlet]

Ok now the items spawn where the player is

but i uhhh

Made it so y and z are the same as x by mistake

so its nowhere near where its meant to

Funny mistakes

[fair canopy]

if youre going to use this board as a blog post why not just stream it?

[remote hamlet]

I can stream it on discord

[remote hamlet]

I did the cross computer player position networking

and it worked!

https://medal.tv/games/stalker-anomaly/clips/ijHq0eckgsxC0v-RU/d1337KVQ9OZI?invite=cr-MSxPZjQsOTY1MzkwMyw

in this clip I have two computers

host is the one in the clip

and the thing spawning the underwears

is the client on my laptop

when a client presses o it writes the packet type number it wants to send into a text file

the client c++ program picks it up and converts each line from a string into actuall data and puts it into a struct I made

then sends it to the server which thens sends it to all the clients

and writes it into another file

which the game mode reads

and converts from a string into useable data

Now I'm going to make it so when a client connects it sends that message over to the other clients

so the mod can associate a entity to that client

[young hemlock]

Hi

I wanna make a storyline for sin

where do I start

[remote hamlet]

when a client connects I'm gonna spawn a npc with no ai and add in an array which will be a set of client ids that point to their npc

Does anyone know how to spawn a stalker npc with no ai?

or I will have to continue using underwear to represent the players

[sudden inlet]

Somewhere here https://igigog.github.io/anomaly-modding-book/quests/introduction.html

[remote hamlet]

How would I force set the position of a item?

I tried item.position = newposition

but it just does nothing

[young hemlock]

I cant find task_manager ltx in anomaly folder

and there are 2 configs files, no misc option

Where do I find this

Or where to paste that script

[slow bolt]

unpack anomaly db files

its in tools

[young hemlock]

like extract to windows or what?

[slow bolt]

open anomaly/tools

you will see it

[young hemlock]

Do I click it? Its the anomaly used for my gamma

or shall I make new anomaly folder

[slow bolt]

you want to unpack text files, so click the unpacker

not the _all

[young hemlock]

the one on top then

ok

great, now to know how to add lines to stribog...

bitch I have to script?

I dont know any language

😭

[slow bolt]

[remote hamlet]

To make a custom questline?

[young hemlock]

help instead of laugh

[remote hamlet]

yeah

[young hemlock]

for sin

[slow bolt]

@random fulcrum look at this doode

[young hemlock]

ok bro

bad screwyou

Im trying to do something ok?

At least I try

[remote hamlet]

I would recomend some tutorials on youtube for lua

to learn the basics

[slow bolt]

This channel's pins first

[remote hamlet]

lua is quite easy compared to other scripting languages too

[young hemlock]

Bro why so hard

If its easy why no one make questline for sin

[remote hamlet]

I do have a question for you though do you know how to force set an objects position and spawn a stalker npc with no ai?

I got the basics of my multiplayer system and need to make the objects that represent the players actually move instead of spawning new objects for each position

[remote hamlet]

Well it does take alot of time to make a whole questline

[slow bolt]

no and no

[remote hamlet]

and from what I heard sin is not exactly popular

[slow bolt]

you could spawn a new one and delete the old one

and change the object id that is saved

[remote hamlet]

The object is gonna have to be moved every 0.05 seconds or so

so I can't do that

[slow bolt]

your best bet is analmeme server

and you asked there already, so

[remote hamlet]

damg

cuz if I did I could have semi player replication

well I kinda do

[young hemlock]

Its a few tasks

become castigator

[remote hamlet]

but it doesn;t look like player replication

[young hemlock]

Its a short questline

I just wanna make it to make it

telling u bro, that shit WILL blow up

[remote hamlet]

I don't know much about sin

[young hemlock]

I just have to know how to even put dialogue into Stribog

how to make task

and that is it

[remote hamlet]

And what do you want the task to be?

[young hemlock]

perhaps bringing stribog a compass or something

Just an example

[remote hamlet]

If you know lua then you could probably reverse engineer other mods that do a fetch quest to see how they do it

[young hemlock]

I dont know LUA

[remote hamlet]

I don't know anything related to quest so I can't help there

[young hemlock]

No language

[remote hamlet]

Then research it

[young hemlock]

too much time though

bro why cant it be automatic

just select character, put in lines of text, save

select "fetch quest", input item

[remote hamlet]

well because there is more to quest than just fetch quest

[slow bolt]

because it usually isnt

[young hemlock]

Sadly yes

bro I just need to know how to make quest and put character lines

ALL I NEED

[slow bolt]

i didnt know lua when i started making the mod

[young hemlock]

and then I can make quest

[slow bolt]

i just know how programming works

[young hemlock]

Wasnt a story mod I bet

[slow bolt]

just open the mod up and look how its done

[young hemlock]

Most I made was python calc

[remote hamlet]

The way I learned lua was by searching a roblox lua tutorial almost a decade ago

[young hemlock]

Where can I see script for living legend

[remote hamlet]

and that catalysted into me learning other scripting languages later

I think theres a open source version of anomaly with all the games scripts

that you can read

[slow bolt]

you can just unpack the game

which he did

[remote hamlet]

oh

then you could try crtl shift f and search for the name

might take you to the script

[young hemlock]

I think questline will be A to B usually, relying only on player although maybe you can get companions too

but fuck is it hard

even she said that

[balmy idol]

The first image is my cleaned up NVG and the 2nd image is the default GAMMA gen3.
Thoughts?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/657951871067226125/1264840505070456872/image.png?ex=669f5604&is=669e0484&hm=896ef992b759f665f9ae9bf8540e5078c2717228a8187207524b0348aab69958&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/657951871067226125/1264840505934610432/image.png?ex=669f5604&is=669e0484&hm=e21b681a29c962d28d0abae689c6949a3dd2d13fa42d8f24adcfb43b26e811fa&

[surreal gust]

ay @undone lily

zluda worked for me

now the compiler thinks i have an nvidia gpu

now i can enjoy cuda

[undone lily]

is it faster ?

[surreal gust]

i mean, why wouldn't cuda be faster

zluda says the performance is near native on amd gpus

[surreal gust]

the cpu tasks will still be long, due to my shitts cpu

here's a screenshot

max quality compile

this one took me only 1:48 hours

without cuda

only with intels embree

[undone lily]

I wonder how hte new light works with SSS

[surreal gust]

indirect light?

[surreal gust]

i'm using sss 21, vanilla anal weather, and shaders look better addon

it didn't improve the quality massively

since the lightmaps are still shit

however it did fix geometry bugs and lighting bugs on Multiple Usage models

aka trees, cars, etc

this means that trees won't look like a flashbang compared to the ground

[slow bolt]

zluda?

okay now i am very interested

[surreal gust]

yeah

it works

it's using my gpu for building lightmaps

[slow bolt]

Its one of those things i will know and probably never use

[surreal gust]

the compiler got nvidia cuda support

that's why i'm using zluda

[slow bolt]

yeah i know

its just i most likely wont ever need this

but i am hyped

[surreal gust]

bless skyloader

4k lightmaps be annoying af

[balmy idol]

@surreal gust how easy would these new maps be to plug into Anomaly?

[surreal gust]

if you're talking about adding new maps

it's easier than reworking existing ones

[balmy idol]

Ah, so not gonna get 4k lightmaps for Anomaly any time soon

[surreal gust]

doesn't matter

[surreal gust]

lightmaps are still shit

even in 4k

if skyloader reworked them

this will be the best compiler, EVER

reworking the lightmaps will improve a maps quality massively

[balmy idol]

Agreed. But alas

[lean dagger]

how finnicky was it to set up?

[surreal gust]

it was easy

i put it inside the bin folder of the compiler

and opened cmd to get the directory from where the compiler is

and launched zluda with xrCompiler.exe

[lean dagger]

ah so basically how it was with SD, pretty sick that its so easy to use

[surreal gust]

yeah

it did speed up the compiler

which is great

now it's using my gpu for gpu intensive tasks

[lean dagger]

How fast does it compile a level now? did you do some benchmarks?

[surreal gust]

i didn't let it compile a level yet

i just tested it

the lightmap building phase is fast af now

here's a compile that i did yesterday

this is on max quality

intels embree

no cuda

it took 1:48 hours

[lean dagger]

it does look good however i have no idea what to specifically look for.

[surreal gust]

this was just a test compile that i did when 1.6 came out

higher quality improves light calculation on objects

and lightmap quality as well

if i used 1.5 on this

it would have taken 8 hours

and looked worse since older version had an issue with overexposed hemisphere on MU models

mu models (trees, cars, bushes, etc)

[lean dagger]

whats the remaining stepping stones until well be able to recompile the anomaly maps?

[surreal gust]

compiler splash screen

[surreal gust]

i already have the sources

i'll try mlr sources first

since they're pretty much the same

if that don't work

i'll use my own unextracted sources

[slow bolt]

tf would game spy have to do with the compiler

GameSpy was used for servers

[lean dagger]

godspeed, hope it works

[slow bolt]

and iirc stalker networking is(was) P2P

[surreal gust]

it's just some licensing that they took from cop splash screen

[surreal gust]

it's identical

i want to try mlr sources first.

[slow bolt]

Sultan has minions

i remember those when i wiped them from DV

Probably one of those

[true lance]

I know absolutely nothing about modding but I hope this works because a stable multiplayer would be such a big moment I feel like for gamma so good luck man

[slow bolt]

[hot token]

[true lance]

Can I not be nice 😂

[surreal gust]

le nice

compiler go broom

[lofty island]

is there a mod that adds animation to the tourniquet?

nope. tourniquent just has a sound effect and instantly applies

[gloomy arch]

anyone got a clue why i cannot modify the loner actor/npc visual but i can modify all else? - my bad if posted wrongly

[simple scaffold]

exactly (file names, line numbers, sections) what have you changed that worked?

and what exactly isn't working?

[random fulcrum]

reefer

the fat trenchcoat guy with the mossberg in agroprom underground

he has a sidequest where you help him get some documents and then you can take him back to the bandit castle where he then resides at

explaining why he has a spawn point in the castle

[balmy idol]

Sorry about teh laggy video
So left side is before, right side is after
Less noise, less blown out white, less bloom, less saturated green so it's easier on the eyes
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1261657905896226908/1264982356519948288/Desktop_2024.07.22_-_21.26.43.02.mp4?ex=669fda20&is=669e88a0&hm=57e16e70455ebd2717666592fd8c8e5fce6990f5b03c444f9ccebbd8a7ab64c5&

[balmy idol]

Here's the tier 3 comparison
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1261657905896226908/1264991250990235738/Desktop_2024.07.22_-_21.54.01.03.mp4?ex=669fe268&is=669e90e8&hm=52c3efaf2194e571f40f700a78cb118170d701ae276b43373fcf7849ac6e9a62&

Blurry? I already reduced the bloom. If anything it should be LESS blurry

[misty mulch]

you're missing a dialogue string with that id

[spiral stone]

how do I dltx the "m_dog.ltx" file? everything I try doesn't work when I test it in game

[spiral stone]

nvm figured it out

[balmy idol]

Uncompressed (hopefully) screenshots
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1052725132533186580/1265004474271928408/image.png?ex=669feeb9&is=669e9d39&hm=a829f1c3c2737105e66164e251c84bd5e0b29cf679905783e44a61b9a1e506a8&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1052725132533186580/1265004663888023552/image.png?ex=669feee6&is=669e9d66&hm=d5863db5fc59eebe17f1d375a98c0741eedb1c25595fd51d94362ee539401ea3&
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1052725132533186580/1265004782326911007/image.png?ex=669fef02&is=669e9d82&hm=1da8be2aa58398eeab7070f52339906b429ba3b9c76dd46149a5da1715e6ac33&

[misty mulch]

@iron jackal depends on if you are trying to change:

• how your arms look when you wear it
• how your legs look when you wear it
• what your 3D model looks like when you wear it
• what other NPCs look like when they "wear" it

[iron jackal]

does anyone know how to change the appearance of an armor in 3rd person?

[misty mulch]

oh that

yeah that's the one i actually don't know lmao

i can point you towards the other three

[iron jackal]

i finally found an exoskeleton but the model looks wack and i wanted it to look cooler lol

also its 1st person and 3rd person models dont even match

this is the 3rd person model for it

[misty mulch]

extremely common occurence since there's like, what, 40 outfits but ~3800 npc models

and the mapping can be arbitrary

[iron jackal]

That particular exoskeleton is called "exo_outfit" in the debug menu, and I want to change it to have the appearance of "Visual: actors/stalker_neutral/stalker_neutral_4_oldsun"

[gloomy arch]

It doesn't seem to work for me when I specifically do it for the loner exo, Grey

if you find a fix, do tell me

it's rather easy, in practice though

for example, i did this

actor_visual = actors\stalker_neutral\stalker_neutral4b_special_custom_1.ogf

but it doesn't work yet, and i'm not sure why

[iron jackal]

I've been working on it all day instead of playing 😭🤣 so maybe I'll give up

[gloomy arch]

it seems to be locked to the loner exo for some reason i cannot understand

[iron jackal]

And it sucks because I can get the exact model I want to spawn on an NPC but I can't figure out how to get it working for the player character

[iron jackal]

Where do you find the actor_visual text file?

[gloomy arch]

hold on, ill dm you how to do it

[iron jackal]

Thank you! 👍

[misty mulch]

oh, that line

you probably wanna dltx it fyi

[slow bolt]

#1150520636406513785 medical part

[iron jackal]

what is DLTX? how do i use it?

[misty mulch]

lets you overwrite game config files, without conflicting with every other mod that might edit that file. full documentation is linked in the pins

basically a special way of writing a config file

[balmy idol]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1143926802784464946/1265021152581910661/image.png?ex=669ffe41&is=669eacc1&hm=9066c933825aa198b8a771be6ee346a13ff9499ef285d0f981e15ef36db02b8c&

[misty mulch]

the usual place where text string ids go, idk the structure of the mod you're making

[balmy idol]

Min vs Max brightness

[random fulcrum]

cold vision

[mossy citrus]

question, the grenades from the launchers (scar and groza for example) don't have icons and whenever I spawn the via debug mode they don't appear in my inventory and they just explode, killing me after a few seconds

[torpid badge]

Is this due to a mod you made?

[mossy citrus]

not at all, I disabled all mods, started a new game to check and the problem still persists

[torpid badge]

You're gonna want to head to support if default items aren't behaving properly

https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/922555488665743391

[mossy citrus]

alright, thanks for the info sir

[iron jackal]

i installed DLTX

[misty mulch]

dltx is already included in gamma

[misty mulch]

it's not really something you install any more, to make a dltx file you are making a configuration file with a specific file name, in a specific location, with a particular syntax

instead of e.g. just overwriting the entire exo outfits config

easiest way to learn is just find a mod that does something vaguely similar to what you want to do and use it as a basis

[balmy idol]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/better-beefs-nvg-indiesunpraiser
Awaiting authorisation

[simple scaffold]

screen shot of the ltx and file in windows?

[iron jackal]

me and him were having the same problem

[simple scaffold]

what happens when you set it to actors\stalker_neutral\stalker_neutral2a.ogf ?

[iron jackal]

let me give it a try!

@simple scaffold it didn't change anything

[simple scaffold]

you reloaded the ini? or restarted the game. and you know this ltx is being read? (maybe checked by changing the exo's name?)

[iron jackal]

i restarted the game and spawned that exo and equipped it but im not sure how to tell how the ltx is being read

[misty mulch]

it's being overwritten

here are the six specific DLTX files that overwrite [exo_outfit] in vanilla gamma

i only checked the last one b/c time but whaddaya know, there it is

[iron jackal]

ok i found that first file, so i need to change the highlighted line to the correct exo I want?

[simple scaffold]

once you know the ltx is being read and that changing it to point to a model used by another outfit also doesn't work. the next step would be to look for dltx changes. which i can't help with since i don't have gamma's files.

[misty mulch]

better to make your own dltx which would override all the others, that way you know exactly which file to edit in case there are problems in the future, and your changes won't get undone if you update in the future

[iron jackal]

yall have been a huge help, thank you so much for taking the time to tell me this stuff!

i dont understand dltx but ill keep looking at it

[misty mulch]

basically

• make a new empty mod in MO2, give it a name
• open your new empty mod in Explorer, inside it make the following folders and files:
  gamedata/configs/mod_system_z_whateverYouWantToCallIt.ltx
• inside the LTX file type this:

![exo_outfit]
actor_visual  = path\to\desired\model

save, enable your new mod, etc

the important part about the filename is that your file MUST start with mod_system_ and the z is there to make sure it loads last (and therefore wins all conflicts)

[iron jackal]

oh i fixed it just now

thanks for the help y'all!

[remote hamlet]

I was able to spawn a stalker npc in place of other player clients in my mod! https://medal.tv/games/stalker-anomaly/clips/ik1sbabON-YiHrBQr/d1337j3ihCQi?invite=cr-MSxObkgsOTY1MzkwMyw

do note that the npc representing the other client still has its ai

which is why its spazzing out

because the npc is trying to move when its teleported to the other clients position

I am currently looking into how to remove the stalkers ai

In the clip I was on my laptop moving around

and I made the npc follow my laptop players position

and on my laptop I can see the clips POV player

[random fulcrum]

bro started doing multiplayer yesterday and already has more to show than monokit

[remote hamlet]

I started about 2-3 days ago but it was yesterday when things started to pop off

well I kinda did start weeks ago but then I dropped it because I couldn't figure it out

but then recently I got the motivation back

and spent a whole day with barely any breaks

to get the basic client server system

which I followed this to create https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hNdkYInj4g&list=PLIXt8mu2KcUJOwdLMp-Z-cDIZA1aZfVTN

Its not the best server client system

but it works as a nice base

also when you guys kept doubting me that also gave me alot of motivation

[lean dagger]

spite is a great motivator lmao

[remote hamlet]

Yeah lol

It pushed me to create the whole base with no breaks

but man when I got it to compile and work right before I went to bed

it felt good

and then it just keeps getting better and better

[lean dagger]

dont push yourself too hard, managing burnout becomes really importaint with such big projects. sucks to have a great start and just to.. fizzle out

[remote hamlet]

Yeah I know that feeling

when you get to a point where its no longer fun to work on it

and you keep pushing your self to work on it thinking you have to

to the point you feel terrible thinking about working on it

[surreal gust]

1 question

[remote hamlet]

Whats up?

[surreal gust]

If your program uses .cpp, why don't you do engine edits with actual mp code projects like X-Ray OMP?

[remote hamlet]

Because then I would first have to figure out how the engine works

[surreal gust]

Yeah, but the MP wouldn't suck.

[remote hamlet]

and then I would have to make sure the engine is up to date and compatible with newer engine versions

[surreal gust]

That almost never happens