╙🖇mods-making-discussion

[old berry]

sure

[naive snow]

Send over the .blend and I'll send it back over when it's done

Or I guess I could just grab the mod straight up

That punch unjam is super nice looking

[old berry]

im actually surprised how well it looks in game, on the render it looked a bit exaggerated

[celest forge]

I made the textures, the normal was all kinds of fucking weird

The model is from Day of Defeat which from what I understand is a pretty old game

Never played, that's just what the commissioner picked

[naive snow]

Yeah I can see that from the ogf. I'll do a quick pass of cleaning up the auto-smoothed normals, make things nice and sharp.
Should make the shading way nicer to look at

Triangulated game models are such a fucking pain to work with

[naive snow]

Gotta love nice normals

[vague knoll]

how come my changes aren't seen in game?

[old berry]

https://tenor.com/view/tik-tok-shocked-amazed-awe-surprised-gif-16132528

[vague knoll]

it's loaded last and only changes sections from items_drink (mainly stats from the drinkable items)

[old berry]

it might be overwritten by another dltx file

[slow bolt]

It needs to be mod_system

[vague knoll]

ah? so mod_system_items_drink

[slow bolt]

read the modding book in case

[slow bolt]

mod_system_"insert whatever you want here"

[vague knoll]

mh, but the original items

ahhh, ofc the original file doesn't use dltx

yeah, okay thanks, makes sense

[slow bolt]

Most if not all .ltx files are part of system.ltx and are compiled into one big file with all the references

which is why it is mod_system

[vague knoll]

yeah makes sense now, thanks

I was jusst assuming wrongly because of the original files' name, but it's not using dltx so that's what threw me off

[surreal gust]

jebote zivot

[slow bolt]

Even if the original file is DLTX it doesnt matter

[surreal gust]

don't ping me 2 times in a row

[slow bolt]

naming doesnt change

you only need to make sure it is alphabetically loaded after

@vague knoll

[vague knoll]

that explains the zzzzz everywhere

[old berry]

wasn't there a checkbox installer for mo2 (not fomod) i can remember there was but i can't remember how to activate it

[surreal gust]

level designer role when

[slow bolt]

Bain

But that one is cringe

[old berry]

why

[slow bolt]

What do you mean why. It only has checkboxes with file names and no conditions, pages, anything

Fomod looks good and performs good

[surreal gust]

complicated af to set it up

especially if you're new in mo2

[slow bolt]

Is it though? depends on what you need

Took me like an hour to make an installer from nothing with a bunch of options

Most of the time was spent looking for pictures

[surreal gust]

read that guide or whatever it was

didn't understand shit

i will use the bain installer anyway

[slow bolt]

Skill issue

[surreal gust]

ok

[hard nest]

https://youtu.be/rr79YmimJW0 check out this guide

[old berry]

or just copy other people's installs and edit them lol

[slow bolt]

Sorta faster to make your own

[old berry]

pretty much took me 30 minutes to figure it out

[hard nest]

[naive snow]

@old berry Do you want the .blend or only the .ogf?

I did a whole clean up of the normals. The model's looking pretty good

[old berry]

damn

i'd rather get the ogf

[naive snow]

I'll fix the compression of your textures while at it

[old berry]

you are a literal life saver

[naive snow]

@celest forge You got the original png or format?

Regardless for now, here's the corrected texture and the .ogf

[old berry]

i really appreciate it

[naive snow]

I only bothered fixing the Hud model, you can make another world model out of it if you feel like it

At least the gun doesn't feel as "soft" as before

[old berry]

oh yeah it looks way better now

[regal bolt]

how to open ogf in blender?

[naive snow]

You use the Pavel Blend addon for Blender

[regal bolt]

https://github.com/PavelBlend/blender-xray ?

ahh i did it ty

[slow bolt]

read the pinned modding book

because you most likely have newest blender. that wont work

read the book to find the version you need

[naive snow]

@old berry Here's the compressed texture without the green/purple compression artifacts

[naive snow]

Thanks

[old berry]

nice, in the preview video you can see how much better it is now

[naive snow]

Do you have the moddb page link?

[old berry]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/mauser-c96

[naive snow]

Oh yeah that looks hella good

Nice

[summer girder]

Let's gooo, they made the Lugermorph into a stalker gun

Check channel pins

Use the Blender version found in them

[naive snow]

Which version of blender are you using?

Alright so right there you messed up, the channel pins tell you that only version 3.6 works

[slow bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1141914978677428234.webp?size=48&quality=lossless&name=skelehuh

[naive snow]

You cant, just install 3.6

[slow bolt]

you can get any version from blender's ftp

[fathom wagon]

So, I am going to attempt to create a caliber conversion system using the drag-n-drop system. The question is:

Do I totally change the damage of the weapon along with the caliber, or give a bonus to damage depending on the caliber?

[random fulcrum]

you'd have to microadjust to compensate for gbo's all over the place k_hit values

[fathom wagon]

Because it doesn't take upgrades for damage into account, since those upgrades that do change the damage overwrite the damage value completely.

I hoped it would have compat. but it uses ui_wpn_params.read_float instead of utils_item.get_param. So it might not get the upgraded value if I do damage bonuses instead of setting the damage manually.

Unless I am wrong and it can still read upgrade modifiers if it has any.

[random fulcrum]

could try to print out the function

[fathom wagon]

Once I get the foundation (aka all the caliber items + the fake upgrades) stated in LTX files, I am going to test the .357 upgrade on a PM to see if (1) it works and (2) if GBO is able to take into effect damage upgrades isntead of overwriting damage values.

Also just realized I may have to create a table of LMGs since they use the "assault_rifle" and/or "w_rifle" identifiers

I am going to have upgrades available for weapon classes to avoid some very very silly stuff:

Pistols/SMGs = 9mm, 9mm Makarov, .45 ACP, .357 Magnum, 7.62x25, 5.7, and 9x21
Rifles = 5.45, 5.56, 7.62x39, 7.62 NATO, 12.7x55, and 9x39
Snipers = 7.62x39, 9x39, 7.62 NATO, 7.92 Mauser, 12.7x55, 7.62x54, .338 Federal, .338 Lapua
LMGs = 5.56, 7.62x39, 7.92 Mauser, 12.7x55, PKM ammo setup, and .338 Lapua (see SIG's newest MGs)
Shotguns = 12ga., 20ga., 23mm, and 12.7x55 (pseudo-.500 Nitro)

Crafting it going to require the appropriate "Rate of Fire" tier upgrade kit, the barrel typically used by weapons of said caliber, the bolt typically used by weapons of said caliber, and some Scrap Metal. They'll will also require having Gunsmithing Tools to keep things somewhat simple.

[tired dragon]

im gonna learn modding just to be able to use that to chamber an lmg in 12g

[fathom wagon]

Unless I am doing something wrong, this might be an engine limitation thing. Going to try it a bit more.

[fathom wagon]

So, you can definitely install upgrades from other guns into a gun that doesn't share its upgrades.

After a bunch of crashes, I tested adding the Glock 17's .45 ACP upgrade instead of my custom .45 ACP upgrade onto a P90 and that worked. However, adding the custom upgrade is a guaranteed crash.

I wonder if I have to make dummy weapons with dummy upgrade schemes to have the game believe the custom upgrades are real.

That will be for tomorrow. I need some sleep.

If this works, this is going to be fun as all hell.

[woven obsidian]

hey im dumb in modding but to change a mutant's HP , we go to this part right? i also wonder what the Alife simulator means

[vale knot]

the text on the right are commented out, not actual code

its just notes left by the devs

[woven obsidian]

ohh

[vale knot]

anything following a ; is a comment

[woven obsidian]

so if i were to change the health

it will only affect alife's health?

not actual health

also this may sound dumb but is latex the language for moddign or is it lua

[vale knot]

give it a shot, set it to one, save, go to debug and spawn a giant

if it dies in one hit you succeeded

[vale knot]

stalker ltx technically uses .ini

[woven obsidian]

so i studied lua

for nothing

?

i mean technically a bit of lua

[slow bolt]

Lua is for scripting

This is clearly not a script

[woven obsidian]

SAjkda

dal;sd

bruh now i gotta learn the diff in scripting and modding

nvm

thx

[vapid notch]

is there a way to have the glowstick match up

[fair canopy]

Edit the position via the hud editor

Might be a dltx mod changing the position though if you changed the animation

[surreal gust]

scripts use .script file format

config files use .ltx

[vapid notch]

This was after editing the pistol position, can I move the glow stick by itself for just this pistol?

[fair canopy]

Yeah open the hud editor with just the glow stick up

[fathom wagon]

Is there a weapon that allows you to upgrade to use 7.62 NATO? I'm trying to at least go off of the original upgrades if one exists.

[old berry]

probably some high caliber weapon

[fathom wagon]

Sadly, only found 7.62x39 and the PKM ammo upgrades. I am just going to base it off of the x39 upgrade.

[random fulcrum]

juan's winchester originally had the option to switch to x51

idk if it was removed in gamma

and juan always says that he just copies upgrade schemes from other weapons

[fathom wagon]

Yup, it was based off of the Kar98. I literally had the file in a tab but forgot to check that one.

[fathom wagon]

I'm close. It kinda worked, but I need to now refactor the upgrades to all be first upgrades. If they aren't then it won't get installed correctly.

So I am making 3 fake Berettas (5 first upgrades each) and 2 fake TOZ-34 Obrez (3 first upgrades) so that the game let's me do the caliber changes.

[fathom wagon]

Kinda feel bad for Mags users since this won't work for them without A LOT of patching.

Patching that I will not do

[tired dragon]

how are you planning on actually swapping the calibers ingame?

is it gonna be an upgrade or a drop in kit like the kits for the m700

[fathom wagon]

I created fake weapons to hold the upgrades that contain the caliber converisons - this was needed b/c if an upgrade is not tied to a weapon at all, it sees it as invalid and crashes the game.

Then, I have "copies" of the "Rate-of-Fire" upgrades that have a variable that points directly to the matching caliber conversion. You simply drag the conversion kit onto a valid weapon and it installs the upgrade. It is essentially drag-n-drop upgrading.

[tired dragon]

that sounds really cool, cant wait to see it

[fathom wagon]

Currently playing around with pistols and SMGs first, then will add the checks for the other weapons.

Test of solely the pistol/SMG conversions. Ofc text needs to be adjusted.

[slow bolt]

So it creates loads of fake versions of all the guns?

automatically via script or.. less flexible?

[fathom wagon]

No, the conversion kits are essentially drag-n-drop upgrades. They are handled via script to install them.

I had to create a few fake copies of weapons to "hold" the upgrades so the engine can count them as valid.

[slow bolt]

Just a few then? hmm. Interesting

[fathom wagon]

3 fake Berettas and 2 fake TOZ obrezs = 21 caliber upgrades each placed in their first upgrade slots in their upgrade trees.

I am going to try my best to make sure certain conversion kits only work on certain types of weapons, with some exceptions. However, stuff like LMGs are going to have to be manually checked in a list I create since there is no "w_lmg" identifier.

[slow bolt]

So every gun needs 2-3 fake versions for this to work or?

i just dont get why berettas and TOZs

[fathom wagon]

No, I only needed to create copies of weapons to house the upgrades that re being called in the script.

The only reason for picking the Beretta and the TOZ Obrez was to neatly fit all of my upgrades with no overflow. Just a personal thing.

[slow bolt]

okay yep i have no idea how that works anymore

[fathom wagon]

There were hoops to jump though to get this to work. Once I get everything working, I'll create a vid trying to explain how I got everything working and the process of it.

[tired dragon]

from what ive gathered it seems like the game needs a valid upgrade in order for this to work, and the easiest way to do that was to create fake weapons to hold them

[fathom wagon]

The one thing I want to experiment with once I get all the upgrades functioning is to see if I can add damage with certain upgrades instead of completely overriding their damage values.

[fathom wagon]

Funny enough, I now understand how upgrade trees work now lmao

[random fulcrum]

and the lodge insisted that it was impossible to decipher lmfao

[fathom wagon]

Only issue comes when you want to create completely new upgrades without creating new items. You essentially have to "copy" a similar item to house the upgrade just so that the game can register it at valid.

But, I think this is only a problem for me b/c of how I am going about it.

Most people who want to change upgrades will overwrite them or just make a new one and replace it in the tree of the desired item instead.

Also, I have to include a DLTX to change all known PPSh weapons from w_rifle to w_smg. Still don't quite understand why it is still labeled as a Rifle.

Also, should I change the SKS from w_sniper to w_rifle?

[old berry]

say could it also change damage of the gun to match the calliber? i noticed that guns have their damage set based on the calibers they use

[fathom wagon]

Not all of them do, but I plan on experimenting with adjusting damage values.

The main issue will come from, say, snipers moving to 12.7x55 but its damage values in the upgrade is for the ASH-12 vs the damage value for a VSSK.

I COULD make a higher-tier 12.7x55 upgrade that is specifically for snipers, but I don't want to have to create more upgrades/fake weapons than I need to.

Not off the table, but I need a bit more experimentation with how the game handles modifying damage values VS straight overriding damage values.

[old berry]

reminds me of the pkm ammo having its own variation of the caliber

which is just weaker apparently

[fathom wagon]

Funny enough, that is the only one I have a variation of: Standard 7.62x54 which doesn't include the PKM ammo, and 7.62x54 PKM, which includes the PKM ammo + the standard 7.62x54 (only made for LMGs).

Again, I haven't messed with damage values just yet. Was only making sure the caliber changes worked.

Like a Mosin has a damage value of 0.9, but a PKM has a damage value of 0.7.

If doing +/- to hit_power works correctly instead of straight overriding the values with "matching" ones, then I should be golden.

[regal bolt]

anyone know where the correct pda mesh is with the current textures we have is?

[naive snow]

Pretty sure it's the dev_pda, with the diferent colors

[slow bolt]

inb4 using blender version above 3.6, hence the issues

[naive snow]

Nah it's probably the lack of anomaly unpacked db archives

[slow bolt]

true

[regal bolt]

these?

[naive snow]

Yeah those should be it

[regal bolt]

thanks

[regal bolt]

is there a way to hide your players hands some how?

[fathom wagon]

So, I won't be messing with damage values of weapons. Although I am pretty sure +/- to hit_power works, GBO doesn't grab the correct value if an upgrade does that instead of just overwriting the hit_power manually.

[random fulcrum]

but uhh

cast weapon gethitpower

@fathom wagon

[fathom wagon]

Oh, I know how I can do it.

I just don't want to include 3 different script edits (GBO, my fixed GBO, and ArtiGrok GBO) with the correct getter

[fathom wagon]

Also, I made sure to write down what I figured out about the upgrades system just in case I forget or someone asks

Cuz I know I will forget

[fathom wagon]

Correction: the game seems to not like doing +/- to hit_power. It immediately sets it to the value you are trying to +/- instead of modifying the base value by it.

[fathom wagon]

I am putting all the bells and whistles on this one. Got the highlights working.

(1) AK5C before any conversion and (2) AK5C after 12.7x55 conversion

Ofc icons are going to be the way they are cuz I can't do icons well lol

[celest forge]

https://tenor.com/view/ohhp-gif-4817530786571504521

[fathom wagon]

Again, Mags users are going to miss out just because of how Mags works. It'd be a NIGHTMARE to have try and patch everything lol

I'll leave that to some brave, brave soul.

[random fulcrum]

okay i'm aware of how the icons are done but what about using the patron icons

since they're just the bullet sprite

would need to make dummy items like the upgrade icon or the stewed food icon are done

but imo it'd look way better

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/patron-ammo-icons

[fathom wagon]

Definitely not going to leave the kits looking like that, but I am going to leave it for now until I get some time after my finals are done after Wednesday.

And the only reason I have the boxes moved all the way down to cover up the "Fire rate" icon that the upgrade kits icons have.

[fathom wagon]

So instead of the ammo box, use dummy items using these icons and have them be the top layer icon, instead, correct?

[random fulcrum]

ye ye ye

[fathom wagon]

That will definitely be the next thing I do as the "first" update.

But first... time to release this bad boy into the wild.

[random fulcrum]

maybe give the box itself its own color so that you can easily identify the upgrade box as a "rechamber" thingie

[fathom wagon]

Reminds me I have to re-install Photoshop for icons. Unless y'all got other suggestions for making icons.

It's been a while since I've done icons of any kind

[random fulcrum]

idk i used to use clip studio and then convert to dds in gimp

but clip just because i'm super familiar with it since it's my drawing software of choice

[naive snow]

You can use whatever you want and just batch convert it if you want

Paint.net, gimp, etc

[fathom wagon]

I'll make sure to keep those in mind. Thanks guys.

It's been posted now. Knock yourselves out, and please let me know if y'all get any crashes. I may like breaking the game, but I know I'll miss something down the line.

[woven obsidian]

guys im tryna make my mutant tankier

but i cant see the health points

or stuffs for health

what is it called in the scripts?

[opaque night]

all.spawn editing as it currently stands is very tedious - I'm happy to point people in the right direction when it comes to making a patch, but currently I'm of the opinion that whoever changes the file last should update with a patch

Sorry for the necro - my feed just updated lol

[honest sinew]

I have this problem with Gamma, where can they find the answer how to fix it etc because I'm a bit dumb?

[summer girder]

Certainly not in mods MAKING discussion, but input !shaders in #🤖bot-commands

[honest sinew]

Okay thanks and sorry but here on this dc server I'm new and still a little bit clueless

[ocean spruce]

Does anybody know what xml line or whatever causes this distortion around the menu text when hovering over it?

[surreal gust]

It's a shader effect I think

since 2007

[ocean spruce]

ah thanks, do you know which shader file?

simplified vision ui gets rid of it, turns out it was ui_magnifier.dds, although its not in gamma normally, gonna see what xml calls for it

[woven obsidian]

hey

if i were to change giant's hp

what part should i tweak

cause i tried the max health value and it didnt change

[vague knoll]

I don't know where to find it, but looking at the dynamic mutant mod, I found out that mobs had both a MaxHealthValue and a Health one, so there's probably a Health value somewhere to change instead

[woven obsidian]

ok thx

[vague knoll]

(and who knows what MaxHealth does)

maybe a modifier for difficulty?

[mellow oriole]

Hi hi yes so I managed to get it working! Here's my patch! https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1233027789842546801

[elder iris]

Aye is anyone got any idea where the "portrait" images are saved, and if I can add my own?

[mellow oriole]

https://www.reddit.com/r/stalker/comments/pp5ez2/anomaly_custom_character_portrait_help/

Google is a great resource, you can find a lot of info if you look in the right places

[elder iris]

Of course Reddit is here to save the day.

[wet lichen]

@woven obsidian 🤔

[regal bolt]

are there any mods that focus on snipers?

[slow bolt]

If you want mod recommendations - go to #╟🔰☢newbies-chat

[regal bolt]

oops, my fault

[wraith sparrow]

hello, is there a mod to have lower weapon be on a hold instead of a toggle?

[mellow oriole]

… Could you tell me EXACTLY how you caused the game to look like this? I suddenly feel inspired to make a deep-fried mod.

[fair canopy]

Just fuck with the reshade menu

[storm basin]

guys how unrealistic is the creation of a co-op anomaly experience in our century

[surreal gust]

don't fall for scams like radmp

anomaly co-op ain't gonna be ez

a lot of mp code has been removed from anomaly

since they don't work anyway

[regal bolt]

whats the highest stalker can use

[naive snow]

8.8.8.8 for UI stuff.
BC3 for environment/objects

[regal bolt]

player item textures counts as obj?

[naive snow]

Like held objects in the Hud?

If so yes

[regal bolt]

and theres like 3 different types of bc3

[naive snow]

Are you saving a bump or an albedo?

[regal bolt]

whats an albedo

[naive snow]

Base color

[slow bolt]

iirc this

[slow bolt]

bc3 dxt 5

[surreal gust]

bc7 also works if you're using modded exes i think

[naive snow]

If you want 100mb textures sure

[regal bolt]

im just tryna find out whats the best saving method for quality for a texture for a pda retexture, im tryna make a pda from the 2000s texture

[slow bolt]

He asked highest quality

[regal bolt]

and each time ive viewed it its been having blue stuff appear on it

or green

[slow bolt]

BC3 DXT5 will work just fine. Could go for 8888 but that would be huge file size

[naive snow]

If you're saving the base color bc3 srgb
If you're saving the bump bc3 linear

[slow bolt]

you need to keep texture size under 22mb

[surreal gust]

if you have modded exes

bc7 also works

only for dx11

[regal bolt]

does it tell u the file size when u save

oh yea

[slow bolt]

Btw there are only 2 options

linear is DXT5

[regal bolt]

and what are these settings for under the bcs selection

[naive snow]

They both are dxt5 essential, it's just a different gamma encoding

[slow bolt]

idk why i replied to you

[naive snow]

Uniform, generate mip maps, the drop down Kaiser

[slow bolt]

This wont work on DX 8-10iirc

the texture

[naive snow]

It does, it's just the header that's different, the thm will correct it

[regal bolt]

now when i preview my stuff in blender the texture has gone pink?

do i have to do it with the xray sdk

always glitches out for me

[slow bolt]

I hope you have blender 3.6 and not above

[naive snow]

No your texture is just not read, blender needs a dds addon for previewing

[regal bolt]

i got the version that works for ogf file importing

what ever the mod book said

or closes

t

[naive snow]

Search online, there's a dds addon for blender, install that

[regal bolt]

but the bc1 was saved as dds and worked on blender fine

[slow bolt]

BC1 is ancient

[regal bolt]

oh

[slow bolt]

Use OGF tools to see the texture change

it is faster that way anyway

[naive snow]

Then blender might not be reading the srgb bc3 properly, save it as linear instead

[slow bolt]

And if it works in there - it will work in game

[naive snow]

I mean BC3 is BC1 for rgb anyway

[surreal gust]

bc1 has the shittiest compression ever

my terrain texture and lightmap is stored in bc7 format

[regal bolt]

wait so ur telling me my silver buttons i made probs looked okay if i changed the method?

[naive snow]

Bc3 just adds an alpha channel support

[surreal gust]

the terrain texture has no artefacts

when i've tested it

[naive snow]

Worth trying out bc3 linear yeah

[surreal gust]

Fake

[hard nest]

What could I have done wrong? Did I get the positions of the icons wrong?

[surreal gust]

"pauza"

[naive snow]

Sheeeshh volumetrics are so bad and undercooked in stalker

[surreal gust]

this screenshot has some improved volumetric code.

it's not entirely vanilla

the smoke shader is like 16 years old at this point

[naive snow]

You forgot to specified a wrong icon layer coordinate for the scope probably

[surreal gust]

the performance impact isn't really noticable

[naive snow]

You can tell. I'd rather not even have volumetrics with that look

[surreal gust]

i forgot to add occlusions to the ground

so it's clipping through

it doesn't look bad in my opinion

[naive snow]

That wont save the horrible light scattering algorithm

[surreal gust]

i had a headlamp enabled

smoke ignores sun light

but doesn't ignore hemi light

[naive snow]

It's super out of place, there's a black halo around and it receives no form of directional shadowing or ambient occlusion

[surreal gust]

Better than nothing to be honest

the volumetric smoke option from anomaly was just a placeholder

[hard nest]

1icon_layer = susat
1icon_layer_x = 24
1icon_layer_y = 0

is that wrong? I made a separate file for the icons, prescribed their positions using the icon editor, but for some reason the icon was crooked.

[naive snow]

I'll take the nothing

[surreal gust]

summon lvutner for new volumetric smoke shader

[naive snow]

Numbers are usually something like 80 ~70 in X and -10 or so in Y

[slow bolt]

susat on AK

what cursed kind of universe is that

[surreal gust]

https://tenor.com/view/silver-gif-21335694

[hard nest]

it would look something like this

[hard nest]

thanks

[surreal gust]

im wondering why does nobody use my latest test map

there haven't been any crash logs

[slow bolt]

that is so cursed

[hard nest]

After 3 attempts to get on that map and crashes, I decided to use this map.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1026334401501593602.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=smadging

[hard nest]

[regal bolt]

yeh it worked with a quick test

[slow bolt]

Susat is an integrated scope, so it would make no sense to be installed on a picantinny rail and on any other gun

Though it would make sense in the zone, where scopes are limited and recycled

so nevermind

[hard nest]

maybe the susat will be cut out

[surreal gust]

What kind of crash logs

Nobody told me anything

[hard nest]

#1227924660214173696 message I have the same issue

[surreal gust]

The level doesn't touch anything related to that

It's because of the spawn file not being merged with all.spawn file

This was the 'best' option I had.

[hard nest]

as soon as I try to move, the game crashes

[slow bolt]

so it tries to calculate xp or smth

hmm

[surreal gust]

Fair fast travel crashes the level too but it's possible to disable it and play

I can merge the spawns to fix this issue, but it has its own problems

Replace the debug map, but it would have problems with the ai grid

No dynamic props, no nothing.

[hard nest]

I think it's because of a skills expansion or something.

[surreal gust]

It is.

I might merge the spawns, but I'll think about it

I could also update the instructions

[surreal gust]

Try disabling that mod

And try again

[hard nest]

Ok, I'll try when I'm done with the icons

[surreal gust]

K

[hard nest]

after I disabled all mods related to skill, everything worked fine

[regal bolt]

does this look silverish

[slow bolt]

So it was a skill issue

[slow bolt]

dats white

[hard nest]

[regal bolt]

dont u see the brushyness

D;

[slow bolt]

brushyness?

buttons are white

Original's buttons are more or less exactly grey

[regal bolt]

no they grey

[slow bolt]

right

[naive snow]

Probably need to play with the specular of your Bump map

[hard nest]

Overall everything works fine, but when I tried to throw a grenade game crashed

[regal bolt]

im not doing bump till i get the base texture done

[naive snow]

How to you expect to know the proper specular response of the object without it?

[regal bolt]

ive never done a bump map

[naive snow]

Well if you're doing texturing you better start learning

Like you don't actually need the normal map shoved in there, you can leave those channels gray and just use the specular channel for now

[steady apex]

looks like rubber keys

[blazing chasm]

Hello, guys. I have tried to import ak12 from stCoP weapon pack. After some work I have a file which looks similar to the anomaly weapons, mod organizer is not swearing and game works fine, BUT i can't find this weapon in debug menu. Could somebody lend a hand and point to me there is the problem.

[naive snow]

Hey, quick question since you're here. Is BC7 supported with the latest exe?

[steady apex]

its a vanilla anomaly feature

only on DX11

[naive snow]

Do you also know if DX10+ headers are supported for things like srgb bc3?

[steady apex]

well i guess they are, only on dx10+

i dont know exactly

better ask LVutner about it

[naive snow]

Neat. Guess I'll have to dig down the source code if the engine already does a gamma correction on textures or if they're interpreted as straight linear

[regal bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-i-was-crazy-once-locked-me-in-a-room-a-rubber-room-a-rubber-room-with-rats-gif-16657349004158031608

[regal bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/lazy-girl-gif-24741482

[valid igloo]

Hello, 1st time looking into this, I'm looking to modify some stats in game for certain armours/weapons etc. and from what I know I have to unpack certain scripts in the data folder in stalker gamma? If so, how do I unpack things?

[regal bolt]

"C:\Anomaly\tools\db_unpacker_all.bat" i believe

[surreal gust]

Damn, these mods fucking everything over.

Looks like I have to merge the spawns.

[daring hearth]

Hello everyone. Does anyone know how to make it so that a backpack from inventory can be opened as a cache without putting it on the ground? I noticed what can be done there with containers of artifacts that the Bartender needs to drag to Beard Zaton. I want to do something similar for myself too. I saw a similar implementation, by the way, in A.R.E.A.

[surreal gust]

compiled in shit quality

shit lightmaps

[frosty sail]

Interactive PDA pda_trade_items.ltx update i've add some silencer, scope from 76 - boomsticks, add upgrade parts for armor and weapon and ammo part.
Go to *Gamma\mods\Interactive_PDA\gamedata\configs\plugins*
Backup your old file before replace

[naive snow]

Depends on which weapon you want to do this for, try searching in the Data tab of your MO2 for the debug name of the weapon first, see if the weapon is part of the Anomaly base files or an added weapon of the modpack

[thorn gust]

hey, im trying to edit the loadout ltx right now in order to add some more weapon variety to loadouts. ive noticed that some weapons will not show up even if the weapon id is correct in the ltx. why is this, and how can i fix it?

for example, the mp133 has the problem, as does the toz 194

[fair canopy]

are you editing the highest order ltx directly? you should be doing loadouts via dltx

[thorn gust]

i am directly editing the file; i'm pretty new to this. how would i go about using dltx? do you have any resources i could look at that'd be good for a beginner?

[fair canopy]

theres a modding guide in the pins you should take a look at

[thorn gust]

should've been the first place i looked. thanks, dude

[magic zodiac]

@steady apex I have some questions about Anomaly Popup Messages, when using quick melee, a pop up with your knife also appears, I would like to hide this.
Oh and, is it possible to make wrist watch show the check time in the pop ups? And toxic air mod and the weather report from Arzsi's Radation Demonized?

[steady apex]

First, open popup messages item script and add knife items there to ignore

Second Idk

[neat thorn]

hey guys will there be a gunslinger mod for anaomaly and Gamma im new really liked that mod in COP

[neat stone]

There have been animation ports, some are even included in gamma rn; but there's a lot of features that can't get a 1:1 port due to the mod using some sort of injector for them.

Your best hope is -maybe- the gunslinger openxray project can recreate them and get merged one day (don't hold your breath)

[neat thorn]

ok thank you so bas is the equivalent for anomoly?

[bronze thistle]

Given an x, y, z, lvid and gvid, is there a console command for teleportation in the debug menu?

[fair canopy]

@naive snow any chance you could help us fix up the m712 model? Bert extracted it but it's got these holes in it

[mellow oriole]

how would i go about creating a dialogue for a specific character that results in another character permanently standing in a different place?

i want to create an interaction where you can pay barkeep to move his man so you can access the big room behind him

[naive snow]

Oh christ that's in rough shape huh

I reckon I could fix it up yeah

[naive snow]

Do you have the textures that go along with it so I can fix the UVs too?

[fair canopy]

this is the pack that bert sent me

[daring hearth]

hmmm...

[spice pilot]

In short, I’m creating my own build on Anomaly and I get an error, I downloaded BaS and downloaded HD icons that have BaS support (there will be a link below)
I'll attach the error log, someone help me, I absolutely can't understand what the problem is.
|| https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/hq-icons-rank-rc21 ||

By the way, I also have DLTX.

[simple scaffold]

BAS has had a major revision since that icon file was made.

[surreal gust]

how 2 make a bain installer

the guide from analmeme modding book doesn't work

[spice pilot]

It's a pity, but I already found a prototype of these icons.

[simple scaffold]

It doesn't? You mean every one else has been humoring me for 4 years?!!? Jeeze this entire community is full of assholes and fakers. Thanking me for a guide that doesn't work.

[surreal gust]

?? It doesn't work I tried it.

[simple scaffold]

It works. It even has an example mod linked, to help ppl that have issues reading english. Did you look at the example?

[surreal gust]

I did.

[simple scaffold]

Post your zip

[surreal gust]

I'm not at home yet.

I will be back in around a few hours.

[spice pilot]

Does anyone know a fix, or some kind of icons that Cr3pis HD icons adds icons to jackets? Otherwise, instead of them, I just have transparency.

[simple scaffold]

Edit the icon override files would be my suggestion.

Sounds like your items have only partial icon override entries and use a modified icon dds resulting in the icon grid cords being wrong.

Or DLTX could do the same thing. But I think cr3pis uses icon override

[spice pilot]

Bro thanks but idk what should I do

[simple scaffold]

Read the modding book. Learn how icons work. Icon override and DLTX both replace the icon lines.

Set your mods up so that the icon works. Copy the 5 icon lines, texture path, height, width x and y.

Paste those lines into Cr3pis icon override file

or into a new DLTX with a late in the alphabet name. But only if there are no icon override entries for these items. Icon override always wins over DLTX and direct file edits.

Modding book has DLTX guide.

Maybe read GT's LTX inheritance guide. I think that is still in the modding book. If not it is in the resources channel of the anomaly discord. Back a bit though. Like posted in 2020.

[spice pilot]

Oh my God, modding is very hard

[simple scaffold]

There is a learning curve yes.

Since this game was never intended to be moldable it is harder than other games. Both for mod users and mod makers.

That is the entire point of gamma, ppl want a modded anomaly with out doing the work of getting mods to working together themselves.

A side effect of this is that adding more mods to gamma is even harder because there are many mods making changes to to the game and other mods.

[spice pilot]

Yeah, the result was good, but the side effect was not quite. True, the result covers all the disadvantages.

[simple scaffold]

I would have to be at my computer with gamma installed and then add your mods to have a chance in heck to be able to tell you exactly what files you need to change. A modder tha primarily mods gamma might know where to look quicker than I would.

Considering i would first have to install gamma and don't actually want to. (I prefer a much simpler mod list)

[spice pilot]

Bro, I’m just doing my Vasyan own build, it has nothing to do with GAMMA

[potent delta]

Modding is in fact quite difficult, but once you learn some of the tricks required the rest sort of start to make sense.

It's very much a spaghetti code style of modding.

Less directly modding and more tricking the engine into letting us tinker with it.

[spice pilot]

[surreal gust]

If you hate coding like me, you can start mapping instead.

[potent delta]

Or be like me, and make guns by copying base gun .ltx files and fucking with things until it works.

And bullying Raven and Juan and Burn into helping you figure out how to make custom magazines work for your guns.

[surreal gust]

Like how tf do a bunch of words even make sense

And where tf do you even start from

[potent delta]

To be fair, coding is less knowledge of STALKER itself and more knowledge of LUA.

[surreal gust]

I hate lua

[potent delta]

You need to know how luascript works, and THEN you can work on learning how it interacts with stalker.

[surreal gust]

It's shit

It sucks

And a waste of time

[potent delta]

Hence why any mod I ever make will just be .ltx and .xml files. I will never make a script.

[spice pilot]

What if I say that I love programming, but I hate the language in which the Anomaly is written? Hahahaha

[potent delta]

1. No clue how and 2) way too much work.

[surreal gust]

These people use scripts to spawn dynamic objects, but never do it with the intended way.

[urban scaffold]

can someone help me? I made a new armor, based on the hybrid suit, and everything is working as intended, BUT i can't seem to get the inventory icon right. It shows the black seva suit instead of the hybrid Icon (one without the helmet)

I tried copying everything over from the "hybrid_outfit" in the seva ltx, but i guess it was changed along the way during development and the icon is grabbed from somewhere else

[potent delta]

You need to figure out what x y coordinate the one you want to use is and point it there by finding where the hybrid suit itself has its icon file stored (usually can be seen in the .ltx of the armor itself, it'll have the directory it points to in it).

It should have a direct read-out of what file it's specifically trying to pull the icon from. Anomaly/config/etc etc

I think in this case it would be gamedata/textures/ui, and then whatever the name of the armor is as a .dds file.

For example, the ExoSEVA mod uses custom icons, and they store the icons in gamedata/textures/ui/exoseva_icons.dds

So if there is already an armor that points to the helmetless version you want to use, find it, find the location of its icons.dds file, and make the armor you are making point to that for its icon as well.

As well as finding what x and y that armor uses so it points to the right icon in that file.

Having the wrong x and y (and also wrong values for icon grid size 1x1, 1x2, 2x1, 2x2, etc) is how you get jumbled icons that have parts of other icons clipping into it and stuff.

[urban scaffold]

thank you, gonna try that. since the original hybrid armor got these coordinates, but when i copied them, it gave me the seva (which made me think that the icons got modified by some other file mabye), like i mentioned. gotta go doggin around until i find it

[potent delta]

If needbe, you can copy the .dds file from the armor you took the .ltx from and put it into your own mod's directory, so that you don't need the other armor installed as well for the icon to work if you ever plan to make the mod public.

[spice pilot]

What is the name of what gives you the ability to wear a fancy helmet and backpack while wearing an exoskeleton? Or where can I fix this?

[urban scaffold]

ah, just realized i need to unpack everything, thats why there's no texture folders, gotta start up the unpacker anew.

[potent delta]

Ah, yeah, big thing for making mods is having the entire unpacked anomaly repistory.

[potent delta]

It's a single line at the top of an armor's .ltx file called 'restrictions'.

outfit restrictions [x] (underscores instead of spaces, discord's system for italics is dumb)
x = 1, 2, or 3.

3 lets you use a helmet and a backpack.

I believe 1 is the 'standard' exo restrictions, no helmet and no backpack. 2 is just no helmet.

I could have that backwards.

[urban scaffold]

looks like this [outfit_name]:outfit_base, outfit_restrictions_1 _ if you want to make it be able to wear everything, just go with outfit_base, and delete the restricions part in the responding .ltx

[spice pilot]

Where is this file?

[urban scaffold]

I made my scientific suit able to have a helmet by deleting the restricitons

[potent delta]

In the mod folder, gamedata\configs\items\outfits\o_[armor name].ltx

Open it with notepad (or notepad++, recommended) and edit the line at the top.

[spice pilot]

So I want to change in the anomaly itself, and not in any mode. Or I didn't understand something

[potent delta]

I had to manually edit the ExoSEVA mod's .ltx file to allow helmets and backpacks which is how I learned this. :D

[potent delta]

Find whatever mod the armor you want to change is in on MO2, right click it, 'Reveal in Explorer'. It'll open the mod's folder. In that folder, navigate to the directory I mentioned. You don't want to try to screw with the base Anomaly files. Always handle edits through MO2 itself.

[urban scaffold]

getting closer, now to find the correct texcure file for icons, and to find out how the coordinates respond. I used gimp to open the dds file, is there a better way?

[potent delta]

If you REALLY have a hard time finding what mod handles the armor, the next best thing is to enable debug mode, open the item spawner in-game, find the armor in there, hover over it so you can see what the armor's filee name is (green text, usually will be "st o [armorname]" with underscores instead of spaces) and then type that into the search bar on the bottom right of MO2, which will show you that file and list the highest priority mod that is providing it.

[spice pilot]

Friend, I don’t have any armor mod, I just want vanilla exoskeletons and so on to be able to equip a helmet + backpack.

[potent delta]

I use GIMP as well, you should be fine for that. As for the icon location, you should be able to directly copy the x,y from the base armor you modified yours from.

[spice pilot]

or am I stupid

[potent delta]

I believe by default the GAMMA Exo Rebalance handles that, but if you are trying to mod a completely fresh, vanilla installation of Anomaly with no other mods... then yes, you would look to change the o_exo.ltx in the base Anomaly directory instead.

Or whatever it's called in the base anomaly directory. I'm not sure.

Should still be under gamedata\configs\items\outfits

[spice pilot]

CTRL + F can help me bro

[urban scaffold]

gonna try that later, since i already tried something close to that but the MO wouldnt spit anything out, I have a strong suspicion there is some other mod that handles/overwrites the icons, gotta go looking later that evening. So close. Everything works fine, but i cant get over the wrong icon.

[potent delta]

I need to fiddle with the .ltx files for my modded UMP45 (UMP357) to make the suppressor line up with the gun properly myself, don't feel bad.

#╓☢stalker-chat message
Love the floating suppressor icon.

Speaking of floating suppressors... @naive snow
Can you give me a quick and dirty on the best way to fix that? Preferably something that isn't 'change a number by like 2 values and reload the game, repeat'

I'm curious if the "silencer_x" and "silencer_y" are actually where they're drawn on the gun's icon... or if that's where the icon for the silencer itself is pointing to on the icons grid.

...or if that's where it is on the actual view model.

[ocean spruce]

Is there a way to easily blacklist guns from loot/stashes/traders etc. with one file, or do i have to dltx each file?

[potent delta]

afaik you have to dltx each loot pool individually.

[ocean spruce]

gonna be fun

[potent delta]

A lot of modding for weapons is tedious unfortunately. Like making updates to even just one scope means making a new model for every gun that can use that scope.

[naive snow]

Unfortunately, that's the easiest way to brute force it. You could I guess pop in the icon in Photoshop, isolate the 2x1 or 3x1 of your gun you're attempting to fix, drag in the attachment grid, place it and count the transform pixel offset. But that's only really viable if you're doing 20~30+ guns

[vague knoll]

can anyone point me in the direction of the script that takes care of cooking in gamma? like the one that allows you to use the stove or better yet, the one that allows you to use the blue cooking thing (which for whatever reason I can't remmeber the name of rn)

I'm looking through the files here but

[potent delta]

I'm interested in figuring out why the silencer is placed wrong on my gun despite copying the base UMP45's .ltx and I'm pretty sure it's not misaligned on there.

[naive snow]

Because there's a DLTX that overrides the position, most like Tiskar's and Burn's attachment

[potent delta]

So I'd need to find that file and make a copy of it for my mod too, then?

Or just add my weapon to it.

[fair canopy]

Just add more zs to your dltx

[naive snow]

Not really, you can just find the x and y value in there and add it to your ltx since there's no dltx playing with your sections. Yet

[random fulcrum]

z stackers should be shot

[fair canopy]

The z wars

[potent delta]

Making a mod_system_tiskar_attachment_alignment.ltx in my mod's configs directory and doing this oughta dltx the stuff properly, right?

I literally copied the ump45 stuff already in the base alignment mod's .ltx and replaced ump45 with ump357.

[fair canopy]

Since it's a new section just do it directly in your ltx

Then copy paste the settings from the ump

[potent delta]

My .ltx is literally the base ump45 .ltx with names changed and a few details swapped to use .357 rounds. That's it.
I looked real quick and the only part that had a place for suppressor placement is the base weapon, none of the scope versions had silencer placement options. I assume doing it this way will make sure it's in the right spot, regardless of what sight you have on it.

Okay. Ironically, it worked. But for some reason, when I take the sight off it's misaligned again.

[fair canopy]

Copy paste tge numbers from attachment alignment into your new weapon

Not from the base ump ltx

[potent delta]

Wait, I think I figured out the issue. Lemme refresh my ini and refresh the game (thank you debug) and double check.

...okay, it fixed the misalignment (for the most part) but... now the sight is on the icon even when it's not. I think I accidentally changed where it's drawing the icon from, not where the icon's alignment is. Whoops.

[naive snow]

You are making this waay harder than it needs to be.
Just find the UMP entry in the current mod system that exists for icon layers placement. Copy the X and Y value to your new ump ltx. Place those in the parent section of the file. The scope sections will inherit those values too.

You don't need to package a new mod_system with your mod or anything

[potent delta]

What do you mean by that? Like, the entire list that's there? And just put it whole hog into the top section? If you mean just the initial x and y value, I did that already and it's still misaligned.
Sorry, I'm dense and my brain is extra foggy today to boot so I'm probably going to miss easy stuff.

The attachment mod has silencer placements for all of the sighted versions and whatnot, but the weapon's base .ltx file does not. Only the default silencer placement (which I also changed according to the attachment mod's number, but it's still misaligned).

Here, it might be easier to just show you what's in my ump357's .ltx

I'm confused as to what part of the attachment mod I am supposed to copy, and where I am supposed to put it.

[naive snow]

Remove any and all mentions of silencer_x and silencer_Y in the scope sections

the licon_layer_x and licon_layer_y are for the scope placements. You could copy those too to their respective scope sections if you wanted I guess

[potent delta]

Alright. That's what I did, what you showed there. x = 181, y = 6

So I'm confused why it's misaligned.

It lines up for the scoped variants just fine, but once you take the scope off of the gun the icon for the gun shifts to the left and the silencer stops being lined up.

[urban scaffold]

I found it. After a moreless grueling search after all the different ui_icon_ files is finally found the one where the icon for the hybrid suit i need is. Only question now is...how do i "navigate" there from the ltx file in my mod...e.g. how to tell it which specific file to pull from?

[potent delta]

Provided you copied the .ltx directly from another armor, there should be a section in the .ltx that tells it where to pull its ui model from. That's where you want to point to that .dds file.

[urban scaffold]

i replied to the qrong thing....anyway, you remember me from a few hours ago?`the hybrid suit guy

[urban scaffold]

ohhh, gotta look for that, ty

[naive snow]

I remember something that the inventory grid for the base gun icon and the one that takes scopes is placed differently

Ah yeah I overwrote the silencer placement per-scope I guess
![wpn_ump45_acog]
silencer_x = 180
silencer_y = 4.9
![wpn_ump45_eot]
silencer_x = 180
silencer_y = 4.9
![wpn_ump45_ac10632]
silencer_x = 180
silencer_y = 4.9

[potent delta]

Should be "icons texture = ui\name of ui texture file". It's line 21 for the ump45's .ltx file.

[potent delta]

I wanna know how to make the unscoped icon for the gun itself be in the same spot as the gun is when it has a scope, that way the silencer will line up naturally.

[naive snow]

Do a gun atlas yourself I guess

[potent delta]

I have zero clue what that means.

[naive snow]

If you want to use the same atlas as the current UMP45, stick to using whatever's already there

[naive snow]

The huge grid of gun icons

that's an atlas

[potent delta]

Ah. Gotcha.

Well like I mentioned, I didn't change anything in the .ltx other than the names it points to from ump45 to ump357, save for things like the icon files and whatnot so that it still uses the basic UMP45 icons.

[naive snow]

Then you should be able to use the same icon layer repositions for scopes and silencers

[fair canopy]

You can do decimal incrementa?

[naive snow]

My brain likes to think so

[potent delta]

That's why I was curious if copying them from the current file and just changing the names from ump45 to ump357 would do the trick, but when did that it didn't fix the alignment for the non-scoped gun, just the scoped versions.

[naive snow]

Of course it wouldn't. No icon reposition mods account for a ump357

If your gun had inheritted from the UMP45, then you would have been fine

Since your gun is a whole new entity and parent, it doesn't get shit from reposition mods whatsoever

[potent delta]

This is what I meant.

It's the exact same values as the base ump45 from the alignment mod.

I even went as far as to make sure my gun's default silencer location was the same as there, to be sure.

This could potentially mean the base ump45's silencer is misaligned if it doesn't have a scope?

...it is.

[urban scaffold]

Hah, you'd never would've guessed, or maybe you would. As you know, the Hybrid armor exists in the base anomaly game (with a helmet) and in the base ltx you can change values, like artifats count and ther stuff BUT i found another file in GAMMA Armors no integrated helmet where there's also an ltx file with some stats that seem to override some base stats (but not artifact count, for example) hence my edits were only working partly and why i cant get the icon to work. MO2 shows no conflicts though, thats why i never found it until now

[potent delta]

Though ironically it's more misaligned than the ump357's is.

[potent delta]

Ah, yep, dltx hierarchy. If a file dltx's an overwite, it won't show the +/- file conflict icon.

[urban scaffold]

Dear god, I remember now how much I hated fiddling with this stuff all those years ago...

[potent delta]

Left is UMP45, right is UMP357.

[urban scaffold]

I gonna check if i can just paste my armor in there, instead of figuring out a way for it to point to a mods folder like 4 folders over

[naive snow]

Try this one on for a change

[potent delta]

Theoretically you should be able to.

[naive snow]

The current gun atlas might have shifted over since december, I haven't been keeping up with the updates, so stuff might be misalligned, again

[urban scaffold]

OR try if i can add the lines and try to link there (therefor making my mod dependent on that mod, which wont matter since i will never release it) just to see if it works or crashes everything

thanks for the help so far

[potent delta]

So just using that .ltx should theoretically fix the UMP45 AND my version since they both use the same pointers? If I have to do the dltx addition of my gun as above that won't bother me too much still, at any rate.

[naive snow]

No I mean just try copying the values from there. That's my personal one.
Your UMP doesn't inherrit from that mod-system at all

Your UMP is its own parent entity, it doesn't inherrit anything from the normal UMP45

[potent delta]

So copy those values for the dltx edit I made. Gotcha.
Still not sure where I would put all of the scope edits if I wanted to put all of the stuff into my gun's .ltx file itself without needing to piggyback off of your mod's files.

[naive snow]

Stop
You don't need a dltx for your gun

Get that out of your head. The only dltx should be for adding it to npc loadouts and trader stores. That's it

Its nonesense to use a DLTX for icon alignment when your whole thing is a unique entity

[potent delta]

Alright. So I have your file you just sent me. What exactly, step by step, do I have to copy to my own gun's .ltx file for the whole thing, scopes and all, to have the repositions?

[naive snow]

Open up my file, find where the wpn_ump45 section starts

row 462

[potent delta]

Yep, already there.

[naive snow]

copy the silencer_x and silencer_y to your UMP357 ltx file (line 83, 84)

You can probably use the ump45_camo values for setting up the ac10632 scope alignment X & Y

[potent delta]

ump45_camo? I don't see that anywhere.

[naive snow]

Oups, ump45_custom

Camo is another file of mine, my bad

[potent delta]

All good.

[naive snow]

Paste those in their respective scope sections and voila

[potent delta]

I did delete the custom section from the .ltx when I made my gun since I didn't intend to have a second version of it anywhere. Not sure how I would use that as a way to change the alignments for the scopes themselves but yeah, what you just posted there I assumed is what I would have to do for scope alignment. Was hoping it would be easier, but... Gotta do what I gotta do I guess.

[naive snow]

Basically, ever scope section should have a licon_layer_x and licon_layer_y

[naive snow]

You don't need to have the custom section, I'm saying to copy the values

So you have a rough ball park of the X and Y

If ever the silencer is off on the scopes, you can just add a silencer_x and silencer_y parameter in your scope sections

That will override whatever the silencer_x and silencer_y was in your parent section, ump357

I still don't understand why you simply didn't make the UMP357 a simple variant of the base UMP45, you're busting your balls so much for absolutely nothing

[potent delta]

To be fair, I had literally no clue how anything worked when I started on it. I figured copying an existing gun and changing the .ltx around would be the easiest way to do it.

[naive snow]

You took probably the hardest of paths

[potent delta]

That tracks for me I guess. End up making things harder for myself trying to guess the easiest way.

[naive snow]

But hey, now you've learned a whole bunch of things. The power of FAFO

[fair canopy]

Making a clone with different ammo is super easy once you learn the little tricks

Inheritance also makes things easy assuming what you're pointing to is always the same as you intend it to be

[naive snow]

Gun variants are basically all mini-dltx packaged in the same ltx file

[fair canopy]

Oh also burn, idk if the models are the same for the m712 as the ones from https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/dltx-simple-weapons-pack

[naive snow]

Oh right, I still haven't looked at the model you sent over. I've been busy doing a playthrough of CS

[potent delta]

Okay, uh... what controls where the gun itself is in the slot when you put a scope on it? Like, for example, the gun is more to the left of center with no sight, or most of the sights attached, but some of the sights make the gun itself more to the actual center of the slot instead.

What line dictates that?

Examples;

[naive snow]

Nothing, the icon is just placed that way, there's no X or Y to shift it to one side or the other

[fair canopy]

[naive snow]

Are you playing with the Utjan dynamic icon scalling?

[potent delta]

The March-F scope is the same position as no scope at all, but the ac scope puts it more to the center.

[potent delta]

Uhh... I have no clue? Lemme check MO2.

Those are all I have by them, and they're base Gamma I'm pretty sure.

[naive snow]

I thikn it's either packaged in the item UI imporvements latest or the QoL

[potent delta]

So is this something I want to disable?

[naive snow]

No, it's something you need to account for and add I believe to a section

[urban scaffold]

@potent delta HAH! Success, I did it. I took the other way around and added a "link" to my armor in the respective GAMMA modfolder, which now overwrites the icon and stuff as it should, and i got my icon. I have no idea how it works or how it points to the correct icon in the dds file, since i cant find any coordinates, and the "inv_grid_x = 6" is the same for many other armors in the ltx, but it works. MAGIC I tell you! Thanks again for the help, would have taken me ages if not for your pointers!

[potent delta]

I have no clue what I need to add to anything for this.

I am about as fresh as they come in regards to modders.

The 'Item UI Improvements' does in fact have a script called 'scale equipped guns'.

I assume that's what's making it different depending on the attachment?

[naive snow]

Yeah that'll scale the gun to fit in the box

with whatever silencer is slapped on

AH I think I might have found why. There's probably a DLTX that changes the inv_grid_x and inv_grid_y of the UMP45 so it's not kicking in for your gun

[potent delta]

I mean, it's just 0 and 0 for my gun.

[naive snow]

No you have garbage values right now in your scopes sections

[potent delta]

Fairly certain the values you're looking at are the actual offset of the gun itself for the viewmodel, not any inventory values.

[potent delta]

That's what it's been for mine the whole time.

I didn't change any of those when I edited the gun's files.

[naive snow]

Yeah but that's probably your issue, it's shifting the gun position on the atlas

[potent delta]

Hm... I tried potentially making the inv grid 0 2 instead of 0 0 and it did make it more centered... but it also made the icon a ump45 with a silencer attached. I can't just change where it lines up in the inventory box itself.

[naive snow]

I told you, you can't shift a weapon around in the box. Theres no ltx parameter for that

The X and Y of the inv grid simply pick a spot on the big gun atlas

If those are mis-aligned, the gun will be misaligned

[potent delta]

I would have to manually go into the .dds file and move the icon more to the right in order to center it I assume.

[naive snow]

You can't nudge it

Yeah or account for that offset with the silencer placement

[potent delta]

Working on that as we speak. Thankfully the silencer x and y CAN go into the negatives.

[naive snow]

Yeah a lot of scopes are in the Y-

[potent delta]

Also I figured out how to reload .ltx changes while in-game.

The issue is that numpad 0 is bound to both refresh ini AND npc logic execute. I guess hitting it tries to do both at once and ctds me.

[naive snow]

Yeah see, the gun atlas has baked in scopes and silencer on/off

So since the attachements are just slapped on with layers instead now, you might want to point every inv_grid to be 0 x and 0 y

So it's always pointing to that base naked model

[potent delta]

...oooohhhh. I get it. I get why some scopes move the gun and some don't.

The scopes that have their name on the icon are just being placed on top of the base gun's settings.

So their silencers are lined up if the base gun's are.

But the ones that don't have their names show on the icon when equipped are using the baked icons with the attachments.

Which are scaled differently.

[naive snow]

Yeah, attachments like silencers and scopes are done in a layer maner, the png is slapped on top and shifted around on the base gun texture

You should move everything to a unified system, so scrap the baked in ones, make them layers too

[potent delta]

Now my question is... do 1icon layers exist for the acog, ac10632, and eot?

[naive snow]

They do

[potent delta]

Those are the 3 that use the baked icons.

So if I gave them 1icon_layer = acog I could then x and y those to line them up, and they'd use the default gun's placement?

[naive snow]

If you set the inv_grid_x and inv_grid_y to 0 yeah

[potent delta]

Alright, moment of truth.

Yeah, it works. Now I uh... gotta make the sights line up properly.

Ah, wait, no I know what I did wrong.

[naive snow]

You can use the base values of the other sights you'll find the Alignment mod system as a basic value for rough guessing and then fine tune it

[potent delta]

I dun goof'd and put 1icon layer x and then... 1icon layer x
No layer y

[naive snow]

How the fuck do you even open up vtx and vvd for the day of defeat?

[potent delta]

I might go into the .dds and nudge the naked gun over a smidge just so the bigger scopes don't trail off of the inventory screen.

[naive snow]

Careful, you'll need to also package in that texture with your mod

[potent delta]

I know. I did it already with the magazines for the glock, since the extended mag uses an edited texture.

[fair canopy]

What kind of mad man would do a silencer variant as well?

[potent delta]

Might give me the oomph needed to actually make the ump357's extended mag have a unique texture as well.

[naive snow]

Sheer insanity, but I guess that was pre-layers

[potent delta]

It's all still based off of the OG trilogy's fileesystem.

Y'know how when you don't parent a gun, any scoped variant becomes its own separate gun in the debug menu? Yeah, that's how things used to have to be no matter what.

[naive snow]

@fair canopy Looking at the C96, did Bert pick the LOD model over the actual model of the gun? That shit is hard to look at holy balls

[fair canopy]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2891030229

[potent delta]

Well, the icons are working properly now, both with and without a silencer. FeelsGoodMan

Though for some reaosn the march-f by itself is a little different than the march-f that comes with the leopuld rmr set.

[fair canopy]

And yeah it's the lod model he said. I thought so too

[potent delta]

Ah, it's set to 76 and -21 whereas the leopuld variant was 80 and -21. Fixed.

For the time being I don't think I will fiddle with the .dds file. Mostly because my brain feels like smashed potatoes.

But I will upload the update to the files.

@naive snow Thank you for helping me again. I know I can be really dense and probably frustrating to work with, but I super appreciate it. I hope I can help others in the future with the stuff you've helped me learn.

[naive snow]

S'all good man. Some weapons are just setup a bit wonky and it's part of the game for modding

[old berry]

i was thinking to just get the mag, firemode switch and the stock ported over to the current c96

[naive snow]

There seems to be a different model based on which DX version you're running, might be worth looking at the highest model

The w_c96.dx90.vtx

[old berry]

idk much about how source works tbh

[naive snow]

Oh those are just file descriptors, nevermind

Yeah the basic model is hella rough, the C_c96

I guess I could edit out the current mauser, remove the bottom section, fix up the mag, add the firemode switch and the stock

[naive snow]

@old berry Yeah the body shape of the side for the firing selector isn't the same either...

I guess you could push it further back towards the handle like I'm doing right now

[old berry]

oh my fucking god

i just realized something

billwa didnt get the model from day of defeat but from day of infamy

[celest forge]

[naive snow]

Is there a mauser c96 model with stock in that one?

[old berry]

yeah

getting it rn

@naive snow

[celest forge]

If I would've picked, I would've grabbed the model from Battlefield 1

ngl

[old berry]

idk if there is a model already extracted from it though

[naive snow]

Want me to just fix up the normals on that model instead?

Or do you still want to do the components transfer?

[old berry]

idk either would work really so i guess its up to you

[naive snow]

The component transfer, if you want to keep the frontal hand guard would be a pain honestly

Plus this model doesn't have holes unlike the other one

Same-ish kind of textures too

[old berry]

oh yeah gonna have to remove the hand guard

i guess transfer would work best

[naive snow]

I'll try first to just do the normal correction via a transfer from the first Mauser, that might be enough

The hand guard is simply added on, we can remove it easily

You can transfer over your existing armature and add in the magazine bones

[sacred socket]

What traders sell guns when you enable black market?

[naive snow]

Not the right channel to ask, try in newbies

[sacred socket]

I was directed to here🙃

[simple scaffold]

To mod making? Not possibly #🔨modded-gamma-support

You are not trying to make a mod are you?

[sacred socket]

No they might have just sent the wrong # accidentally

[fair inlet]

you were directed to specific message, not channel
#╙🖇mods-making-discussion message

[surreal gust]

I released a new update.

It uses the all.spawn method.

Also uses a BAIN installer, this should fix your crash with gamma.

[hard nest]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1047608769175101510/1154056806935572480/stare.gif

[vernal cypress]

Does anyone know the script that disallow you to use tech guy's service, i found the upgrade crafting way too tedious for me to do. I would rather to bleed money on it instead of chasing down few parts i missed and craft even more specific repair kit to just burn for upgrade kit craft

nvm, i found it

[open oasis]

hi folks, i have been working on a helmet cam """mod""" that is essentially just a weapon reposition + a cool little shader and i was wondering if there was a better way to go about making it?

maybe attaching the camera to a different point on the character (as in the helmet) with a script is a possibility? or would i actually have to go and reposition the hundreds of weapons the game has on offer?

thanks in advance

[old berry]

you potentially could change the position of the fixed 3rd person camera, but idk if thats possible

[open oasis]

i tried using the third person camera but it clips through the character if it's anywhere near it

[fathom garden]

утро вечер людям добрым, логи с ошибкой инвалид режте последний сейв ну или до кб снизу и присылайте https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/934064112760139836

[hard nest]

[fathom garden]

мне кста пофик на ошипку, я слышал тут ктото ищет ответы, и пока есть время

у вас дофига, мало времени может быть у меня

[fathom garden]

20:48 было 36 стало 35, кто то передумал?

[undone radish]

How does the artifact melter classify items? I'd like to try and add some items to it (namely the mutant pelts). In related fashion, the crafting of artifacts into other artifacts, is that anything special to make them average their strengths together or can I just make up a recipe?

[full vessel]

Would anyone happen to know how to identify burner anomalies so they can be recognized by Cold System? Currently they do not count as warm.

[open oasis]

holy shit you can reposition the PDA

[surreal gust]

iirc, it's classified as a "weapon"

[unreal leaf]

Does anyone here have any documentation or research on what happens in ternally when Busy hands occurs? Like. I am just very curious about how this bug works. and why a solution besides "avoid triggering the bug" has never been found for it.
From my understanding (and this is a very naive guess) Some actions, like playing animations, flip a bool that prevents you from doing certain actions while the animation is playing, and for some reason, this variable isnt flipped back when the animation finishes playing. If something like this is really the cause of the bug, that sounds like a pretty simple solution to me. But I am guessing I am totally wrong, tis why I wanna learn more

[neat stone]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/watch-dog-script

[unreal leaf]

alright well clearly its a lot more complicated than that haha. Makes me wonder tho, why was it given the name "busy hands"?

[tired dragon]

I guess because when it happens you usually can't do any animations or anything, like your characters hands are busy

[random fulcrum]

it's because, while it's a bug present in the original and vanilla engine, it became very easy to spot with fdda because it softlocked you instead of idk insta crashing or being lowkey enough to fly under the radar

and fdda being a mod that makes your character use his hands for animations

[hearty terrace]

Hey y'all. Was wondering if STEALTH 2.31 mod was working fine alongside GAMMAs atmospherics+SSS

read it could become wonky due to general ilumination/weather tweaks not from vanilla anomaly

i saw the bot redirecting to that mod when usidng the stealth command but i just wanted to know if anyone had experience with it (sorry if its the wrong channel)

[tired dragon]

im fairly sure stealth 2.31 is part of gamma

[slow bolt]

Xray's lua version has error checking disabled, so you can do anything, even if you are wrong. The engine wont spit out an error - instead that script or function will silently fail and stop working(unless it causes game crash). Busyhands(or one of the types) is when one of the main handlers crashes in that manner, rendering a lot of scripts that rely on time events - unable to complete. Scripts themselves dont crash - they just... wait forever. Other busyhands type is when the system fails. In that case scripts like Voiced Actor can detect it, as they ask game script what faction you are. And if that script dies - it cant be accessed - game crashes.

I am not an "expert" at all, so if you want more and correct - you can read the description of busyhands watchdog sent above

[hearty terrace]

Tank you! it seems like it's the same mod, the different naming confused me. Appreciate ur help

[fair inlet]

in fact Grok doesn't intend to use newer stealth versions in Gamma. Idk what are the differences, but it could work worse than default Gamma stealth

[hearty terrace]

that's good info right there! I guess it all comes up to the only solution i was trying to avoid.... i just need to git gud

[storm slate]

How to put an image on a poster? My poster is just white(

[unreal leaf]

yeah I went trough the description of the mod, but thank you for clarifying <3

Though it does feel like if the main issue here is that these loops just hang. Wouldnt it be possible to restart the loops after a certain amount of time passes?

[lofty flicker]

im trying to add my own armour and weapons to the game as a personal mod, how would i use mcm with it and powered exos so it doesnt use vanilla keybinds and icons/textures

[naive snow]

Why would you use MCM for a gun/armor mod? You want your armors to use a new set of keybinds?

Adding in new guns doesn't really require MCM at all

[lofty flicker]

yeah, instead of using vanilla, i need them to use the keybinds gamma already has set
i tried it already and keys interfere

its not the guns really, i just mentioned them no clue why
its the armor and the textures for them and the keybinds along with their behavior

[naive snow]

You probably need to point your armor to interact with the powered exo mod. Probably a file that holds a list of armors that are considered powered unless it's straight into the armor ltx description

[lofty flicker]

my armor accepts the powered exo psu but the power drain is off

[naive snow]

What did you set it to?

[lofty flicker]

its default at 0.1 but it dreams incredibly fast even without using the powerup

[naive snow]

And yeah looks like you need to inject or patch in your model with the powered exo mod

[lofty flicker]

alright thx, what about the helmetless textures for them? i looked in cr1sp1s mod but no file to add to

[naive snow]

Probably have to check the mod_system for GAMMA Armors no integrated helmet mod

They all point to a new icon atlas with armors no helmets. Use the same or something similar for your own

[lofty flicker]

alright thx bro

[open oasis]

UH OH

[urban scaffold]

does anyone know where the bonus carryweight of the nosorogs is stored? I changed the values in the nosorog.ltx from my unpacked data folder, but it doesn''t reflect ingame, tried searching but couldn't find any other mod that modifies them. Or maybe I''m doing something wrong? I modified and added armors before, sometimes, other mods changed values for resistance and stuff, which i was able to sniff out, but not for the nosorog.

[magic zodiac]

take a look at this
\mods\G.A.M.M.A. Exo Balance\gamedata\configs\mod_system_outfits_exo_weight_GAMMA.ltx

Hmmm I think that's the weight of the armors though

[urban scaffold]

just checking, but yeah, seems like

yep, checked that one already. Gonna try a different approach, maybe I'll figure it out

[magic zodiac]

try adding this lines for any outfit inside that file
additional_inventory_weight = 32
additional_inventory_weight2 = 32

where 32 is the bonus carry weight in kg, put a number of your choice and see if it works

Make a backup or something beforehand lmao

[urban scaffold]

that's a nice idea, since the file overwrites the weight, and maybe, just maybe if it's in teh right position in the loadorder, it might override the bonus weight as well, good idea.

[urban scaffold]

Ha, it worked, which confirms my suspicion that somewhere along all the Gamma mods, there is some mod that fiddles with the stats, just like when i wanted to modify other armors resistances and only stumbeld upon the modifying ltx by sheer luck after a long search

[magic zodiac]

Welcome to modding hahahah, just keep track of the changes you apply and where exactly you fuck around

[urban scaffold]

I think i found the culprit. It was GAMMA\mods\G.A.M.M.A. Armors no integrated helmet\gamedata\configs, at least there are some overwrites. Gonna fiddle around there, hope this works, all that editing, loading the game, save, checking is makeing me tired 😄

[mellow oriole]

me reading obscure articles from 2011 on how to make new maps and modify AI
https://tenor.com/view/the-yogscast-yogscast-ravs-the-yogs-yogscast-ravs-gif-21615737

(the oncoming stroke is imminent)

[urban scaffold]

At least modding this game and editing stuff is less taxing on my heartrate than trying to create stuff in UE4

[mellow oriole]

my first game creation experience in a premade engine was in UE4, i feel you

least intuitive "intuitive-looking" UI ever

[urban scaffold]

....and the stability sometimes. The only place where my heartbeat spikes that high is in the gym or while sprinting

[mellow oriole]

my current to-do list to learn:
learn how to modify AI (not overall, individual entity behavior, such as chimeras, boars, etc)
learn how to modify AI spawns
learn mechanics for creating "mutant nests" (might borrow a bit from MSO)
learn mechanics for making new mutant hunt quests
learn how to compile & add new maps

[mellow oriole]

so fucking real

[mellow oriole]

me when i swap prescriptions from concerta to adderall and now instead of wanting to play stalker i want to learn how it fundamentally functions and bend it to my will

[urban scaffold]

Well, to each their won I say. As long as you have fun while doing it, enjoy. My Aspirations are much MUCH lower.

[mellow oriole]

if i learn i will take this power and make the most cursed shit humanly possible

[ivory pebble]

Guys do you know where exactly the file(s) for the item use amount values are?

[full vessel]

Depends. What item do you want to edit? Those values are stored per item "type". Such as drugs, medical, food, drink, etc.

[ivory pebble]

i wanted to edit everything pretty much so it matches with the FDAD aminations in terms of amount

[full vessel]

File structure will be
[whatever root you're using, gamedata, unpacked, bla bla bla]\configs\items\items then find the matching ltx file

Value to edit in said file will be "max_uses"

Vodka for example is 3 max_uses

[ivory pebble]

i found it for raisins lmao

[full vessel]

Just ctrl + F for "max_use"

[ivory pebble]

true

[full vessel]

Adjust files as necessary

It'll probably be pills and cigarettes and stuff you'll be after

[ivory pebble]

ye

[full vessel]

Medical and drugs and drink (cigarettes are stored in drink don't ask questions)

[ivory pebble]

yeah ive been looking through the mod folder for about 2 hours now

https://tenor.com/view/mengsedih-gif-23325538

like, i found stuff in the medications rebalance folder, but there was no max amount (sorry if this sounds stupid this is the first time im trying to mod the game)

[lofty flicker]

use notepad++, then ctrl+f after you open the file from the directory, you can refine the search and whatever for what youre using it for

[ivory pebble]

I know how to edit, my problem is finding the file i want to edit 😭

[lofty flicker]

i can just edit the ltx for you if you want, what all you want added to max uses and what values

[ivory pebble]

no please just give me the path to the files

[lofty flicker]

okay

[ivory pebble]

i wanna do that on my own

(i like modding)

[lofty flicker]

you have everything unpacked?

[ivory pebble]

yeah i should

or wdym

[lofty flicker]

the unpacker tool

in in anomaly directory not gamma, can use those files to make your own "mod" with the values then add it to mods folder in gamma

[ivory pebble]

ahh i understand now wait

[lofty flicker]

ok

this is the directory youre looking for

make a new folder somewhere, add your file paths like gamedata/configs/items/items
for the values, thats all youll need i believe
then add your modified files to the folder in correct path then add to gamma/mods

[ivory pebble]

alright i think i can do that

[lofty flicker]

alr cool

[spice pilot]

Why don't all BaS body kits have any signature? Is there some mod that adds them?

[random fulcrum]

what is bro talking about

[spice pilot]

One second, I'll open the anomali and show you

[random fulcrum]

do you mean the (BaS) tag near the item's name

[spice pilot]

Yes

[celest forge]

Pretty sure that's some icon's mod yeah

that's not "vanilla" BaS

[spice pilot]

How then can you add body kit names to the icons?..

[spice pilot]

You all basically misunderstood me. I want BaS to have inscriptions near the body kits with their name. I don't have them, only on vanilla body kits.

[random fulcrum]

there are no vanilla body kits

[spice pilot]

body kits = sights, kits
Yes?

In the vanilla anomaly there are no body kits, but there are sights.

[random fulcrum]

skull emoji

[spice pilot]

Okay, there's no point in writing here.

[celest forge]

That is surely an option in whatever icon mod GAMMA uses

I think Cr3pis'

[naive snow]

Do you have a screenshot of what you're talking about? It's hard to understand

[spice pilot]

One second.

[spice pilot]

I use Maid icons

[random fulcrum]

ah those are baked to the icon

[naive snow]

You want the white text?

[celest forge]

Ah, the thing is that Maid's icons don't touch BaS icons

I don't think so atleast

[spice pilot]

Yes. BaS kits and sights dont have it.

[naive snow]

Then you'd have to modify the icons to add the text yourself

I have no idea what that font is

[spice pilot]

Go to Maid Icons mod and change dds? Yes?

[naive snow]

Or override to use the default GAMMA one for the bas scopes and attachment

[full vessel]

Lads, trying to add a new feature to Cold System, how would I add burner / thermal field anomalies to the list of "hot" entities?

[naive snow]

But yes either edit the dds of Maids icons for attachemnts and add in the text yourself from the default icons or remove the icon overrides for attachments from Maids

[celest forge]

What are those yellow cards

[naive snow]

Unused stuff, literally the name is Unused stuff

Probably some legacy lab key card thingy

[celest forge]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-eyebrow-flipped-horizontally-gif-24025048

[naive snow]

Might be also dummy items for scripts or whatnot

[spice pilot]

How do I know where the override file is?

[naive snow]

In your Maid's mod

Find the mod_system responsible for it

[spice pilot]

I understand, but exactly where?.. (If anything, I know that there is a mod in the directory, but I don’t know exactly where)

[naive snow]

Just double click on the maids mod and check the FileTree tab, find the mod_system_maidXXX for what you want

[spice pilot]

Deleted

[naive snow]

What do you mean deleted?

[spice pilot]

mod_system_maidmisc.ltx

[naive snow]

But that's not even the right one

[spice pilot]

[naive snow]

Plus you could have simply enabled the module for BaS compatibility in Maids

[spice pilot]

I think I did... I tried it right now

[naive snow]

Like maids has a full compatibility patch

[naive snow]

Those two handle attachments

[spice pilot]

[naive snow]

Welp have fun in #🔨modded-gamma-support I guess

[spice pilot]

Oh damn, I forgot to say by the way, this is not GAMMA, but my set of mods. If anything, nothing conflicts with Maid.

If I write to support, they will kill me.

[naive snow]

Well then head off to the anomaly server and ask in there instead

[summer girder]

[spice pilot]

NO PLEASE

@naive snow I looked at the Maid Icons textures and realized that it only gives these inscriptions near the body kits to vanilla sights and silencers, but not to BaS. Sadness

[naive snow]

Could simply be Utjans QoL thing then

or the Item Ui Imporvements mod

[spice pilot]

This mod dont supported to BaS 😦

[naive snow]

But that's the item overlay thing

[spice pilot]

[naive snow]

Like I said, if you want proper help, use the channels in the Anomaly discord. This isn't the place, it's not a support channel, it's for talking about making mods.

[spice pilot]

Okay

[surreal gust]

Random scale and rotation was used in every tree model.

Scale multiplier ranges from 0.8 to 1.3.

Random rotation ranged from -180 to 180 in Z axis.

[steady apex]

speedtree at home:

[surreal gust]

real

[near crane]

not a mod maker but it would be cool if someone could make a mod where you can ask your companions to idk like “guard base” when near a camp fire and they’ll sit around and play guitar and that for a little more immersion as it’s weird that while siting at a camp fire your guys are starting at you from behind

[neon kite]

Curious, I would like to look around to editing certain values on helmets. Now im very basic level in terms of "modding" if you can even call it that. Just editing ltx file values etc, Where would I need to go to find the files for the armors/guns/etc in your opinion? So far ive been kinda just doing it by just looking at whatever mod someones releases properties that are editing such things and kinda just piggybacking off that. But this means if its something else then im stuck. I think these files for the basic things are somewhere in the base anomaly folders so Ill keep looking. Thanks!

[urban scaffold]

basic stuff is here (if you used the unpacker in your anomaly folder) \Anomaly\tools_unpacked\configs\items

and as for the helmets, like you said, you gotta check the mods that added them, also, for certain outfits, they get overwritten by other mods, like the mod_system_g_a_m_m_a_no_integrated_helmets....., which won't show up as a conflict in MO2, so you gotta check manually sometimes, it's far easier to copy an outfit or helmet of your choice, inside the ltx, add a _1 or something behind it and put everythign in a new mod folder

or leave it inside the old folder, whis way you can also use the icons, if the mod itself provides unique ones

[neon kite]

thanks bro, your da goat

[pulsar gorge]

Hey guys, what weapon parameter is responsible for accuracy in the configs?

[random fulcrum]

fire_dispersion

[fathom garden]

This is a true bug, in spite of i have only four logs from different users.

[boreal parcel]

guys does anyone know how to remove beowulf ammo because its just useless didnt have any use and its annoying popping up on a trader. i didnt know the mod that adds this type of ammo. does anyone know?

[slow bolt]

and?

[tawny stream]

The mod that adds the 50 Beowulf AR would be my guess.

[fathom garden]

maybe we try catch him before

[boreal parcel]

thats the thing i didnt know which mod adds it specifically i have ugp as my main gun mod other than that i dont know where it comes from because most of my mods is FOMOD

[slow bolt]

logically, its from UGP

and there should be guns using it

[boreal parcel]

i see i thought it was a useless ammo because it didnt have damage only its description and the icon is different since ugp uses crisp bullet icons

[fair canopy]

That info has to be added to the description. It's not automatically generated in it

[boreal parcel]

i was wondering where it comes from because on my previous run the butcher tried to sell me this type of ammo and its really bothering me since then mainly because it doesnt have any damage info

[fair canopy]

I would post this in the 50 beowolf thread and ask him to ass damage info

[boreal parcel]

ok thx

[full vessel]

https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/companion-bases-01
https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/hg-companion-21-merged-with-gamma-091

[tawny stream]

Hopefully the ass damage is kept to a minimum.

[fair canopy]

Ass damage should always be maximum

[fathom wagon]

Or use this to get the raw stats on ammo, on top of having accurate stats: https://discord.com/channels/912320241713958912/1161433800803360808

[boreal parcel]

ok thx

it works thx

[fathom wagon]

Those rounds need to be patched for GAMMA. That BR value is way too high.

[boreal parcel]

its insane

[fathom wagon]

It is because GAMMA divides AP values on ammo by 10 in the files to avoid multi-hits from over-penetration, then multiplies it by 10 in the damage calculations to give it its original value back.

So, the .50 Beowulf ammo needs its stats in its file to be divided by 10 to avoid you one-shotting peeps and enemies basically ignoring all of your armor

[boreal parcel]

i hope they wont use these against me

i would love to disable these beowulf rounds and the gun itself but i dont know the mod.

[fathom wagon]

That has to come from UGP or the standalone .50 Beowulf mod.

[tawny stream]

If it's in UGP, it'll have a numbered entry in MO2 you should be able to just uncheck.

[celest forge]

@jade oxide I would rather if you kept your comments to yourself, thanks 👍